
By Ameer Ali –

Dr. Ameer Ali
“The crisis of modern democracy is a profound one. Free elections, a free press and independent judiciary mean little when the free market has reduced them to commodities available on sale to the highest bidder” ~ Arundati Roy
Restoration of Judiciary independence was one of the key pledges by President Anura Kumara Dissanayake (AKD) and his National Peoples Power (NPP) in their respective election campaigns and Sri Lankan voters put them in power with an unassailable mandate. Systematic political interference in the country’s judiciary not only made people to lose confidence in it but also made the country’s parliamentary democracy a mockery. Under JR constitution that interference in addition to the unlimited Presidential powers brought judiciary’s reputation to its nadir. The concept of separation of powers was defenestrated. It was in that parlous state of affairs AKD’s and NPP’s resolve to restore judiciary’s independence promised relief not only to the legal community particularly but also to citizens at large.
Also, there is another reason why this restoration is mandatory. President AKD unlike his predecessors is seriously embarking on a mission to achieve ethnic reconciliation without denying or destroying ethic identity. This means unless citizen Arumugam or Abdulla has the confidence that that they would be treated equally in front of law as citizen Appuhamy there is no hope for any ethnic reconciliation. Therefore, for democracy to remain vibrant and meaningful to all ethnic and religious communities, independence of Judiciary should remain sacrosanct. Unfortunately, it appears that there are elements still lingering within the system that are trying to sabotage these noble pursuits. This is why removing those elements before they destroy the country should be given priority in the AKD-led Clean Sri Lanka campaign. Two recent developments in relation to legal treatment received by two personalities from two religious communities, one a Buddhist monk and the other a Muslim Moulavi show how saboteurs are operating to create chaos and bringdown the government.
The notoriety of Galagodatte Gnanasara Thero, a rabble rouser and black sheep within the Maha Sangha is too well known. He is the General Secretary of the supremacist Bodu Bala Sena which spearheaded a Muslim hate campaign after the civil war and during the reign of Rajapaksas. It was Gnanasara’s hate speech in Aluthgama in 2014 that led to the anti-Muslim riot there which spread later to other parts of the country. In 2016 he was sentenced to six years imprisonment for intimidation and contempt of court but was pardoned and released by President Maithripala Sirisena in 2019. This character was appointed later as the head of a Presidential Task Force by Gotabaya Rajapaksa to make recommendations for implementing the controversial One Country One Law. In January 2025 Gnanasara was again sentenced to a nine-month jail term for making another Islam-hate remark in July 2016 at Kirilapone but came out on bail on 25th February with a paltry fine of just Rs. 1,500 – the cost of 15 cups of tea at present. What a joke! It may be that the judge had no alternative as law enforcer but to release him after listening to arguments from the defence and under existing legal provisions. Gnanasara has virtually become a tourist visiting prisons. If that is the case, there is something anomalous in the existing laws and parliament should pass appropriate legislations to remove such anomalies. The President or his ministers should not intervene to change the judgement.
Unlike the case of Gnanasara Thero the experience of Moulavi Qiyasdeen of Horowapothana at the hands of another law enforcer is nothing but horrifying. A Moulavi is a religious functionary in a mosque. This gentleman with his wife and children had taken his blind father in a self-driven vehicle to the hospital for treatment. On the way a police constable riding in his official motorbike from Kekirawa had stopped the Moulavi, perhaps on suspicion of breaking some traffic rule, and instead of issuing a notice of offence and taking him to the court had beaten and slapped him in front of his family and the victim is now reported to be taking treatment in the hospital. According to the Moulavi the constable was smelling alcohol when he shouted. If that was true, the constable must have been drinking while on duty.
Sequentially, Gnanasara’s release took place before the Moulavi incident. The constable would have known that the Thero went to prison because Muslims took him to court for insulting their religion. Therefore, one cannot dismiss the possibility that this Buddhist constable might have beaten the Moulavi to vent his anger at the Muslim community, which means his action was racially motivated. This is the danger that the country and government are facing at present. One cannot forget how during the anti-Muslim riots in Rajapaksa era certain soldiers and policemen were just watching the horror without stopping the rioters.
Opposition parties are still seething with anger and disappointment at the aragalaya generation for rejecting the old order and replacing it with a new one led by a team of young politicians who in the eyes of opposition are a bunch of inexperienced parvenus. The old guards are looking for any opportunity to exploit to their advantage so that the life span of this government could be cut short. To them therefore insiders like the racially prejudiced constable are an asset. They can be used as tools to create chaos. Sooner the government identifies such saboteurs operating from within and get rid of them better for peace and prosperity with ethnic reconciliation.
Nathan / March 2, 2025
… AKD is seriously embarking on a mission to achieve ethnic reconciliation ethnic identity.
If accurate, undeniably, a noble aim. Where is the evidence? What is the strategy?
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whywhy / March 4, 2025
Evidence is Eating the pudding . No Muslim representation in his
cabinet .Strategy is , meeting vulnerable Muslim community and
justifying their action instead of correcting the situation and
already in parliament I heard voices against their arrogance which
once the previous rulers were labelled with , when they were only
three in the house . Arundati Roy is a great writer and quoting here
her words is appropriate .
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whywhy / March 4, 2025
They , the J V P / N P P combo are grade one Nationalists Trying
to woo the minorities with a hint of Racism to calm the Buddhists
down They can not go far with the tested trickery .
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Nathan / March 2, 2025
The curse of ethnic distinction is a Mind game; Should not be left to just Laws, however just they may be!
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nimal fernando / March 2, 2025
It’s high time we faced this head-on ……. with brutal honesty.
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Al these divisions are created and highlighted by people/pols/clergy with a selfish vested interest: avoidance of honest toil.
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Most pols of all sides play this game adroitly/skilfully: “Sinhalese”, “Tamil”, “Muslim”, “Upcountry-Tamil”: they have got richer and their offspring have advanced ………. leaving the gullible in the dirt.
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The racial divisions are mostly man-made to seek and get an advantage …….. a leg up …………. the Bandaranayakes were Tamils, the Rajapakses were Muslims, ………..
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For Buddha’s/Vishnu’s sakes man ………. the last king of Sri Lanka was a minor prince of some minor principality of Tamil Nadu with a lot of free time on his hands ……. who was plucked out from his leisurely existence and given an instant Sinhalese -Buddhist makeover and made king of the frigging “Sinhalese!”
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Even great fiction doesn’t get any better!
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You can’t see it …… cause your minds can’t escape your “perceived” ethnicity …… and think independently!
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“Sinhalese”, “Tamil”, “Muslim”, “Upcountry-Tamil” —-> When you put a bunch of horny men and women on a small island, no one can be certain of their ethnicity!
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It’s like Old Codger, trying to explain to his neighbour’s husband, who has just received the DNA paternity test results for his children …….. the tricky bits of virgin-birth.
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Better be nice to DTG, might’ve to call him as an expert witness!!
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nimal fernando / March 2, 2025
might’ve got truncated,
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You can’t see it …… cause your minds can’t escape your “perceived” ethnicity …… and think independently!
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“Sinhalese”, “Tamil”, “Muslim”, “Upcountry-Tamil” —-> When you put a bunch of horny men and women on a small island, no one can be certain of their ethnicity!
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It’s like Old Codger, trying to explain to his neighbour’s husband, who has just received the DNA paternity test results for his children …….. the tricky bits of virgin-birth.
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Better be nice to DTG, might’ve to call him as an expert witness!!
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old codger / March 2, 2025
Nimal,
A little catch there. I haven’t revealed my DNA details to my neighbour for comparison, so sill under the radar. If the kid turns out like me, good-looking, talented etc etc, who cares?
BTW, does “Muslim three wheeler driver ” show in DNA tests?
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chiv / March 3, 2025
OC, can there be anything creative than a person hiding under operative table, watching Dr. Shaffi perform hundreds of abortions on barren SB women, in pitch dark, no lights, no staff to assist, commenting later,
” my SB blood is boiling “.
Venerable my foot, it’s Venereal Ganasara.
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chiv / March 3, 2025
Yes, Venereal Ganasara served several prison sentence including rigorous imprisonment, because , he is just another history sheeter. The underworld guys who are now killing each other, are such criminals ( long criminal records).
If Ganasara going to prison is ILLEGAL, what about Dr. Shaffi spending months in prison. I will not connect the drunken SOB with Ganasara. But we heard and seen enough, in media about, involvement of low and odor in corruption, crime, rape, molestation, drug peddling, using drugs, organized crimes, nexus with underworld, stealing weapons and selling to Mafia ——etc ——–etc.
In short policeman, Venereal Ganasara, and murdered underworld members, ain’t low abiding, upstanding citizens of Lanka.
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old codger / March 3, 2025
Chiv,
Out of the 60 DIG s, three are in prison, mostly for murder, and the ex-IGP is about to be jailed. Is there any other profession with such a high proportion of jailbirds? But, we shouldn’t forget that a member of Gnanasara’s profession managed to kill a Prime Minister.
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chiv / March 5, 2025
OC, there is an interesting article on Digital Island “Court room killings from Attanagalle to Aluthkade”.
In another news, a cop is arrested for supplying dozens of T-56 firearms to underworld. Apparently this low and odor is on the payroll of various Dons. “Killing Fields to Mafia Nation”.
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chiv / March 5, 2025
FYI, this cop , a resident of Julampitiya confessed that during the time of N/E war he had secretly brought the weapons and kept it hidden in his house.
Anyone’s guess how many civilians murdered by this low and odor.
Meantime war hero, Major General DOCTOR Boniface Perera (alias Scarface) told media,
“no research done on undeclared weapons owned by LTTE , after the war “. Guess where the DOCTOR is getting into, Silly, Stupid, Sorry —-
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LankaScot / March 5, 2025
Hello Chiv/OC,
Did you notice the significance of the last sentence regarding Tennakoon?
“The predicament of a once powerful cop on whose behalf the previous President went to the extent of clashing with even the judiciary stresses the responsibility on the part of all parties to exercise caution“.
Is this a warning for Tennakoon or the NPP?
Best regards
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chiv / March 6, 2025
LS, you’re right. M.P. Shanakiyan told parliament, 2 days before court ordered arrest of Deshabandu, a secret meeting was arranged at a former minister’s place. People who attended include former intelligence chief Chulla . K and former police chief Nevile. Apparently PILLAYAN too was asked to attend, instead his colleague Inniya Bharathy attended.
People by now, know Pillayan’s involvement in Easter attacks.
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chiv / March 7, 2025
For years, discriminating, harassing, torturing and committing crimes against minorities
Lankan low and odor never expected for their own men come looking for them. Now, Police is searching for Deshabandu, Army searching and arresting deserters ,
Mafia and underworld wanting both.
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Mahila / March 4, 2025
Chiv,
“Venereal” or is it ‘VENERAL’!!?? I’M TOTALLY CONFUSED!!?? To the best of my belief, I think it should be the LATTER!!?? What say you?? A medical condition or disease one acquires, totally in most cases dependant on the company you keep and associate with!!??
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whywhy / March 4, 2025
” Sinhalese” , ” Tamil” , ” Muslim ” , ” Upcountry – Tamil ” —>” When you
put a bunch of ” Horny Men and Women ” on a small Island , no one
can be certain of their ethnicity ! ” Are you a frequent traveller to small
Islands ? You nailed it , oh dear dear .
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Champa / March 2, 2025
Dr. Ameer Ali
What are you saying ???????
“Sequentially, (?) Gnanasara’s release took place before the Moulavi incident. The constable would have known (?) that the Thero went to prison because Muslims took him to court for insulting their religion. Therefore, one cannot dismiss the possibility (?) that this Buddhist (?) constable might have (?) beaten the Moulavi to vent his anger at the Muslim community,(?) which means his action was racially motivated.(?)”———
Dr. Ameer Ali – Did you see the statement made by the Constable before writing your hateful narrative? If not, this is a very creative story. Since when have you gained the ability to read other people’s minds?
Civilian drivers assaulting fellow civilian drivers and Police officers assaulting traffic offenders are pretty common in Sri Lanka, a practice which has absolutely nothing to do with race. Therefore, please do not let your imagination create stories to incite hatred among racially different communities.
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Champa / March 2, 2025
For your information, Venerable Gnanasara Thero’s political party, “Bodu Bala Sena” was formed against forcible conversion, extremist Muslim and Tamil terrorism, vandalism of Buddhist archaeological sites in North and East, encroachment of Buddhist temple lands and iconoclasm. If Tamils and Muslims could have their own political parties, what’s wrong with Buddhists having their own political party to draw the attention of the authorities to the discrimination against Buddhists?
I totally condemn your portraying Venerable Gnanasara Thero in a derogatory manner. The Venerable Thero exercised the same right to freedom of speech that has been exercised by Tamils and Muslims in condemning Buddhist monks, laymen and their practices. As a result of the Venerable Thero’s strong reaction to such incidents, he was even subjected to rigorous imprisonments, something which is legally INVALID in the cases against him.
There were many instances where terrorists, serial killers, rapists and drug lords were pardoned by Sri Lankan Presidents or acquitted by the Judiciary, but you never raised your voice against them.
Venerable Gnanasara Thero has served several prison sentences already, including illegal rigorous imprisonments. What else do you want? You should learn to overcome your deep-rooted hatred against Buddhist monks by practising self-reflection.
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LankaScot / March 2, 2025
Hello Champa,
The USA has separation of Church and State in the Constitution. It’s called the First Amendment. Sri Lanka should do the same. Keep Religion out of Politics.
Best regards
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SJ / March 2, 2025
“Venerable Gnanasara Thero has served several prison sentences already, including illegal rigorous imprisonments. “
Was he kidnapped by a private army of some kind?
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leelagemalli / March 3, 2025
Champa,
The formation of Gnanasara as a Sangha-brigade-lead was done by the Rajapaksas for their political survival. It is a tactic they have used to repeatedly fool the Sinhala-Buddhists who are not real Buddhists. Real Buddhists will follow the Dhamma, but the sons of Buddha or Sinhala Buddhist monks are the real hypocrites.
They have been ordained and doing something else that promotes racism and terrorism in this country. We should be ashamed of ourselves for supporting those hypocrites for decades.
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The Rajapaksas have manipulated the ethnic and religious issues of this country for their political greed, leaving aside the real grievances of the people.
As a result, by July 2002, Gotabaya was chased out of his presidency like a dog. The many countries he had sought refuge in were not there to accept him as someone who had sought refuge. It is a karmic consequence of all the chaos that megalomania has created. However, like that GHANAKKA , Champa or anyone else like her will never see it properly because their last brain cells are controlled by the beast-Rajapakshas.
Right now, AKD is getting weaker day by day, the Rajapaksa factor is getting stronger day by day, just like what happened to Marcos in the Philippines. It took decades in the Philippines but in our slave island it can happen in 3 years.
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old codger / March 3, 2025
Champa,
“I totally condemn your portraying Venerable Gnanasara Thero in a derogatory manner.”
For my part, I totally condemn your use of the word “Venerable” to describe this overfed thug. Read the Vinaya rules about beards and hair. Does he even follow them?
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chiv / March 3, 2025
OC, absolutely right. Calling thug Ganasara a Venerable Thero is a disgrace to true followers Buddhism. Like Gananakka, need to find out how much of public money was allocated to this thug, to implement “One family, One law” rubbish. He now claims to have prior knowledge, about Easter attacks. He may well be one of the master minds. This thug organized fasting, anti Shaffi / Muslim campaign, attacking mosques —- etc . This shameless fellow was later seen in front page of newspapers devouring food in Qatar Embassy
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leelagemalli / March 3, 2025
My source revealed that his medical history included “sexual/venereal” diseases. Poor child monks! As it now appears, Ghansara’s health is not the best. Karma is punishing him as if he were chasing his own shadow. Should we wish him the like sooner recovery or not ?
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SJ / March 2, 2025
“…and Police officers assaulting traffic offenders are pretty common in Sri Lanka, a practice which has absolutely nothing to do with race.”
People are pretty much selective in whom that assault and where.
Do you honestly think that assaults have no racist or other such considerations?
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LankaScot / March 3, 2025
Hello SJ,
Strangely, I have never been assaulted by Traffic Police or the Regular Police. However some of my Relations (all young men) have been. They (Relatives) see it as being par for the course.
Best regards
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SJ / March 3, 2025
LS
Your skin colour may be a factor protecting you.
But racial hatred run deeps here. But more important than race is class.
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LankaScot / March 3, 2025
Hello SJ,
You are probably right, you and OC may remember this episode (possibly) of the Two Ronnies Class Sketch https://www.facebook.com/thejohncleese/videos/the-class-system-sketch-from-1966-with-ronnie-barker-ronnie-corbett-johncleese-c/1870718759725920/
Ronnie Barker’s “Four Candles” Sketch is also Brilliant if you can find it.
Best regards
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old codger / March 4, 2025
LS,
Four candles/ Fork handles 🤣🤣🤣
But it’s difficult to beat Hyacinth Bucket keeping up appearances.
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LankaScot / March 4, 2025
Hello OC,
I see you call a spade a spade, Hyacinth would insist “Bouquet” not “Bucket”. British Comics/Actresses/Actors were great at depicting the “hubris” of sections of the Middle Class. Margo (Penelope Keith) from “The Good Life” was also Brilliant at exposing “snobbishness”.
Best regards
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old codger / March 5, 2025
LS,
I think you know “George and Mildred” turned into an US version, “The Ropers”. But it lost much in translation, because the US doesn’t have that sort of class divide.
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leelagemalli / March 4, 2025
LS,
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I was once caught by the German police because I was driving too slowly, well within the speed limit. After a long drive, on a Friday evening, I drove alone from Zurich to Düsseldorf (600 km) that same day and arrived in my hometown. As you know, the German police are like gentlemen. I really like them compared to the Italians and the French. They didn’t ask me anything except why I was driving too slowly. In addition, back in my student days, while I was hitchhiking, they questioned me and controlled my passport. However, many people respected us as foreign students (that is though not the case today in Germany). In those days, hitchhiking on the highways was easy, even for long distances. Since it was comfortable on summer days, many of us the students were used to doing that. My Iranian mate (today a Prof in Urology) and I often relied on hitchhiking (that was in the mid-90s).
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Rohan25 / March 2, 2025
Muslim race! What rubbish there is no such thing called a Muslim, Christian, Buddhist or Hindu race, these are world religions, that are followed by hundreds of millions in the cast of Christianity and Islam by billions belonging to different races, ethnicities, linguistic groups and also followed in different forms and sects. This is religious identity and not a racial or ethnic identity. There is no such rubbish called a Muslim race, ethnicity or linguistic groups, as the world’s Muslims like the world’s Buddhists, Christians, Hindus and Muslims belong to many races, ethnicities and linguistic groups. Only certain religions are closely identified with certain Ethnolinguistic groups and will hardly have followers belonging to other races, ethnicities or races, you may but rarely. Like the Sikhism with the Punjabis, Judaism with the Jews, Druze with the certain Levant Arab groups, Yazidi with Kurds or Voodoos with western Africa and their descendants in the Americas. Muslim race indeed, what rubbish from a so-called educated professor now living in Christian Australian but constantly espousing certain pan Islamic rubbish. Professor Amir Ali himself has written the term Sri Lankan Moor given to the island’s South Indian origin Tamil Muslims, by the Portuguese, only denotes to their religion and not to their actual racial or ethnic origins.
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Rohan25 / March 2, 2025
Muslim race! What rubbish there is no such thing called a Muslim, Christian, Buddhist or Hindu race, these are world religions, that are followed by hundreds of millions in the cast of Christianity and Islam by billions belonging to different races, ethnicities, linguistic groups and also followed in different forms and sects. This is religious identity and not a racial or ethnic identity. There is no such rubbish called a Muslim race, ethnicity or linguistic groups, as the world’s Muslims like the world’s Buddhists, Christians, Hindus and Muslims belong to many races, ethnicities and linguistic groups. Only certain religions are closely identified with certain Ethnolinguistic groups and will hardly have followers belonging to other races, ethnicities or races, you may but rarely. Like the Sikhism with the Punjabis, Judaism with the Jews, Druze with the certain Levant Arab groups, Yazidi with Kurds or Voodoos with western Africa and their descendants in the Americas. Muslim race indeed, what rubbish from a so-called educated professor now living in Christian Australian but constantly espousing certain pan Islamic rubbish. Professor Amir Ali himself has written the term Sri Lankan Moor given to the island’s South Indian origin Tamil Muslims, by the Portuguese, only denotes to their religion and not to their actual racial or ethnic origins.
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Rohan25 / March 2, 2025
The so-called Sri Lankan Moors, contrary to what they claim, are descended from ethnic South Indian Tamil Muslim immigrants and refugees who the then largely Tamil northwest, coastal part of the island, that was part of the Tamil Jaffna kingdom and took local Tamil women and some Sinhalese women as their wives. There is hardly or far below average Arab origin or ancestry in them and all DNA studies have proven this, they are racially no different from the island’s Tamils or Sinhalese. This is the reason they speak Tamil and until recently before this Arabisation craze came over them, followed Tamil Islamic customs from their original South Indian homeland. The ones who come from the northwest coast, the north and east are 100% Tamil and the ones from the central, western and southern parts, have some Sinhalese in them but still overwhelmingly of Tamil ancestry. If there is any Arab in them, it is only amongst a very small number of them and that too partially, even these people are of predominant Dravidian Tamil heritage and the little Arab/Afghan or other mixture largely occurred in their original South Indian homeland and not here.
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Rohan25 / March 2, 2025
Muslim race rubbish. Only in Sri Lanka to divide and rule the island’s Tamils by the state and their internal and overseas supporters a strictly religious identity has now been made a racial or ethnic identity with no scientific basis and a fake blanket Arab origin, that has been proven many times to be a lie is being still blatantly used to justify this lie to divide and rule. In all other countries even in their original homeland in Tamil Nadu being a Muslim is a strictly a religious and not a racial or ethnic identity. Even the Slavic Muslims of Bosnia identify themselves correctly as Bosnian Slavic Muslims, not as Turks or Arabs. What happened to this individual Muslim family is not correct and I feel sorry for them, but remember these so called fake Arab South Indian Tamil origin Sri Lankan Muslims, their elite, politicians in the name of their religion and their fake Arab origin, have overtly and covertly supported, war crimes, ethnic cleansing, marginalization and structural genocide on the island’s Tamils and were their junior partners. Even going to various Muslim nations and to the UN to canvass against the island’s Tamils. They thought they will benefit immensely at the expense of the island’s Tamils, especially in the east and take over their lands, with Sinhalese help, where they arrived a few centuries ago as refugees claiming to be Tamil.
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Rohan25 / March 2, 2025
Little did they know that once the Sinhalese have finished with the Tamils, their turn will be the next? The Sinhalese only used their religion and their fake Arab origin as a tool to marginalize, discriminate and reduce the island’s Tamil population and even encouraged their radicalization and Arabization until the Easter bombing, as it distanced them from their actual their rich South Indian Tamil Islamic culture and heritage and to create a fake Arab Islamic Identity to muddy the waters, especially in the ancient Tamil east. This is the reason they just kept quiet when large amounts Tamil Hindu lands in the east was appropriated in the east to build an Arab Islamic university in Batticaloa, planting date palms and Arab writing name boards and place names replacing Tamil writing and place name in the east. It only after the Easter bombing many Sinhalese realizes what started as a tool to radicalize the island’s Muslims, distance them from their Tamil heritage and use it to marginalize the island’s Tamils, is now also coming to affect them too.
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Rohan25 / March 2, 2025
Now just like SWRD Bandaranaike who let the Sinhalese Buddhist racist genie out of the bottle, this fake Arab Wahhabi Salafist Islamic genie will be very difficult to put back. You sow evil and reap evil. In another article he was crying how Israel and Trump are now encouraging and wanting the Gaza and West Bank to be emptied of Palestinian Arabs and now even encouraging them to voluntarily leave and go to other countries, for their own good, by making like hell for them in their own lands. Isn’t it what all Sinhalese led Sri Lankan governments and their junior partners in crime did to the island’s Tamils from the time of independence, especially after July 1983? Made life hell for the Tamils with marginalization, discrimination, no education, language, employment, lands grabbed for Sinhalese/Muslim colonization, state sponsored pogroms, large scale bombings, rapes, killings so that many will eventually give up and move, soon after 1983 until the 1990s there was a policy to encourage, Tamils to leave the country as much as possible legally or illegally by boats. Resulting in the island’s Tamil population reduced from around 26% at the time of independence to 16% within 70 years
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Rohan25 / March 2, 2025
I remember not only the island’s Sinhalese but many Muslims rejoicing at this and posting, now soon they will be the second largest majority, and the once ancient Tamil majority east will soon be theirs. What short memories and what a bunch of opportunistic hypocrites now coming here and crying about the same thing happening in Palestine and what is now happening to them at the hands of the Sinhalese, when they partook in the same thing with the Sinhalese against their fellow non-Muslim Christian and Hindu Tamils all in the name of Islam and fake Arab origin. You reap what you sow.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / March 3, 2025
Rohan as per the 1891 census the population of Moors in Ceylon was then 185000. They fell into two classes. Coastal Moors and Ceylon Moors in almost equal numbers. The “Coast Moors” are those Muhammadans who, having arrived from the Coromandel coast or inner districts of South India as traders or labourers, continue steadily to maintain relations of amity and intermarriage with their friends and family in South India; and that such “Coast Moors” are Tamils.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / March 3, 2025
As regards the nationality of the “Ceylon Moors,” numbering about 92,500 out of the 185,000, there are ample reasons for concluding that they too are Tamils, the masses of them of course, a few families here and there—say, five per cent, of the community, or about 5,000 out of the 92,500—who bear the impress of an Arab or other foreign descent. Even the small coterie of the Ceylon Moors, who claim for themselves and their co-religionists an Arab descent, candidly admit that on the mother’s side the Ceylon Moors are exclusively Tamil.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / March 3, 2025
The Ceylon Moors and the Coast Moors were intimately connected with each other till the Portuguese/Dutch began to persecute them in Ceylon. The intercourse between the mother-country in South India and Ceylon was arrested about 150, years ago; and how the distinction arose thereafter between the Ceylon Moors and the Coast Moors. By tracing in this manner their history, that is, their descent, that the early ancestors of the ” Moors,” Ceylon and Coast, were mainly Tamils on the father’s side, as admittedly they are exclusively on the mother’s side.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / March 3, 2025
Taking (1) the language, they speak at home and in connection with (2) their history, (3) their customs and (4) physical features, the proof cumulatively leads to no other conclusion than that the Moors of Ceylon are ethnologically Tamils. The Dutch rulers, who believed that the Moors were only Tamil Muhammadans. other authorities, who have mixed and moved with the people of Ceylon and taken pains to study them, may be cited: such as the Rev. James Cordiner, whose duties as Director of all Schools in Ceylon during the administration of Governor North, 1798-1805, afforded him great opportunities of collecting information and judging on all matters connected with the sociology of the Island. At p. 139 of his work on Ceylon he declares that the Moors are Tamils by race.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / March 3, 2025
I would mention also the name of Mr. Simon Casie Chetty, who was a Member of the Legislative Council of Ceylon for some years since 1838, and whose opinions are recorded in his Gazetteer. The editors of the Ceylon Obnurver, in their issue of December 10, 1885, said, ” We believe that fully 80 per cent, of the Muhammadans of
Ceylon are Tamils. And Mr. A. M. Ferguson, C.M.G, who has lived and laboured in Ceylon for over fifty years, speaking at a meeting of the Royal Asiatic Society, Ceylon Branch, held on January 26, 1888, observed, in reference to the Paper read on that day, as follows :—” The obvious reason why the marriage customs of the Muhammadans were mainly Tamil was due to the fact, that most of the proselytes made by Muhammadans in South India and Ceylon were from the Tamil race.”
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SJ / March 3, 2025
Despite all your theorizing the Muslims do not want to be part of an identity that you claim for yourself.
The do not want to have anything to do with the likes of you. And that is what matters.
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deepthi silva / March 3, 2025
Oh gosh Rohan are you taking ice !
Will the rest of the 24 million who lived through the same experience agree with you ?
Such bias !
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Rohan25 / March 4, 2025
Why do you take ice? look like it
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deepthi silva / March 4, 2025
Rohan 25 I agree with you about the so called Muslim race ! There is no such thing.
However they are distinguished by greedy money making, lack of financial standards in business, backwardness in intellectual pursuits , narrow minded clan mentality, and unquestioning belief in medieval mumbo jumbo emanating from one of the least educated corners of the world.
If they ever serve in a jury they will automatically take the side of their own.
Now their hypocrisy shows as they settle in good Christian countries.
Why not Muslim countries, which according to their theory should be paradise ?
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Ajith / March 2, 2025
Only Question now is what is the guarantee Dr. Ameer Ali give for the Moulana’s by AKD government? Dr. Ameer Ali told us after the end of war, Moulana’s treated differently. Does that mean Moulana’s treated well before the war. Why?
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leelagemalli / March 2, 2025
Immature men become leaders through blatant lies and emotions. However, at the expense of innocent people in those countries. Ukraine is puppeteered by Zelensky and Sri Lanka is being ruined by AKD.
. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ
The law enforcement agencies are run by a stupid Justice Minister of the current government, Harshana Nanayakkara. He seems to have no idea what he is talking about. He has a lot in common with his grandfather, aka Vasideva, who destroyed this country with the Rajapaksa rascals.
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Thambuttegama Chethiya dares to agree that Sri Lankans all over the country, fearing for their lives, but people including young children, are becoming easy prey to underworld activities. Chethiya is proving it day by day. Whatever he says is not the essence we expect from a “government leading a real system change”. Some experts say that his responses as the current Minister of Justice are empty words without any substance
Tbd.
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leelagemalli / March 2, 2025
cont.
Despite their two-thirds mandate in parliament and the national support they received in the last elections, no reforms have been made in the last three months.
There are no bold moves at all, it is like a wedding, the bride and groom wear someone’s clothes but try hard to behave like their own. Invitees and guests are speechless today. Neverthless, they are patient enough to give them more time.
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They are shamelessly trying to erase the ‘hard gains’ from the tenure of former president RW as if they started with a government abandoned by Gotabaya.
Not a single pre-election provocation appears in their talks today. The NPP led by the JVPrs has a really big problem as the ideology of the NPP is not the JVP ideology dominated by fascists.
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In doing so, they have imitated Goebel’s theory of Hitler-led Germany. When a lie is repeated by elected men a hundred times or more, it becomes their belief. Untruths become truths for them. People are eternal slaves and their psyche is highly questionable.
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This is a shameless act of the President and the Prime Minister. The wedding guests are unfortunately speechless and frozen. A significant number of them are still repeating that we should give them more time, but people are indifferent. Yet their slow action is causing pain and frustration among the people.
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Douglas / March 3, 2025
First, let us discard the verbosity of calling every person who wears a “Saffron” cloth similar to that of Gautama Buddha a “monk.” This also applies to others who wear such “Uniforms” and roam around confusing the public in the disguise of religious “Gurus.”
This is a “Plague” and a “Disaster”. To make matters worse, the “Political Higherarchy” along with their cohorts patronise and promote these vagabonds to achieve their goals. Didn’t GOTA appoint this thug Gnanasara to Head a Commission on Law and Order? Not only Gota, so with other so-called “Elite” political thugs. Recently (a few days back) I saw such a line of “Political Degnatarys” attending a lavish “Birthday” bash organized in honor of another such self-proclaimed “Arahath”.
This must STOP. This is what “Clean Sri Lanka” must be directed at and achieve, not only to handle clean roads, beaches, and built culverts, etc.
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leelagemalli / March 3, 2025
“This must STOP. This is what “Clean Sri Lanka” must be directed at and achieve, not only to handle clean roads, beaches, and built culverts, etc.”
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This joker from UNAWATUNA the lead of Kadamandiya, seems to be unaware that Thambuththegama Chethiya is now speechless about his so called “clean Sri Lanka”.
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Chethiya et al are making every effort to save their SIGIRIYA rock style lies which have been spread like heavy rains over the country.
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Ghanasara the fake monk, a pimp in srilanken sanga community, was installed by Rajaakshes and their crooks. He might have molested many more in temples. These men are like real poisonsous reptiles being found in backyards, they should be separated from human association, in order to give us some peace moments.
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And so Chethiya is now making every effort to show tooth relics to the people after 16 long years. His aim is to attract his stupid voters for the upcoming provincial elections. No matter what it is, the current government led by a village born donkey is now exposed. He may have been good at LYING and provocations but not as good as he was at running the country. Nothing would have been achieved for the common good of these stupid people without the former President and his IMF recommendations.
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deepthi silva / March 3, 2025
BTW, what is the general opinion of the Saudi Police ?
I heard they are very contemptuous towards Muslims from poor countries in South Asia .
Until UK opened its doors to all kinds of immigrants their police had a reputation for decent policing. They never carried weapons, took no bribes and their personality represented law and order which all respected.
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LankaScot / March 3, 2025
Hello Deepthi,
I must have lived in a different UK. The Met and the West Midlands Serious Crime Squad were rife with Corruption and Racism.
Even in Scotland, I saw it with my own eyes. I was a back seat passenger in my Father’s friends Car. He was a Fish Merchant. A very Sleek Jaguar pulled up beside him, and a Senior Policeman requested “I’ll have 2 Fish for my Party tonight Arthur”.
He was asking for 2 River Caught Salmon (Poached, meaning taken without a licence from the river) for free. That was around 1963.
Do a little bit of Investigating first, have you ever heard of Operation Countryman? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/19/files-shed-light-on-alleged-efforts-to-hide-1970s-police-corruption
Best regards
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leelagemalli / March 4, 2025
Scott,
I had a director named Scott, he was from Boston (not English, but American). Every three months he was with us in Germany for our projects.
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By the way, my late father (Patcha) said he had an Austin Ford in the late 60s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Minor, and then a Morris Minor (black) until the early 80s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Minor.
Now our Professor Lester and our rich lady, Ms Desperate, will start calling you a “terrorist”, “murderer”, “charlatan”, “idiot” and… then a fisherman… Both Siamese twins sound like teenagers in the early stages of puberty.
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In the same way, they call me an “idiot,” “stupid fellow,” “disgraceful,” “Tiger supporter,” a Wanni resident, or whatever term suits them.
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Elsewhere, our fake man had said that you are an intellectual to Leelage Malli and old codger but not to him (see how funny is his SELF-ASSESSMENT). To be honest, most of my recipients of the daily emails are professors, doctors, physicians and surgeons, and life scientists. Not one of them has ever attacked me this way.
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LankaScot / March 4, 2025
Hello Leelagemalli,
This is direct from Lester’s favourite, AI,
“Internet trolls often use techniques like posting inflammatory comments, deliberately misinterpreting information, using offensive language, creating fake accounts (“sockpuppetry”), making personal attacks, baiting people into arguments, spreading misinformation, and playing the victim to provoke an emotional response and disrupt online conversations, all while aiming to upset or anger others for their own amusement; they often hide behind anonymity to avoid consequences”.
I must admit I couldn’t have said it better.
Lester is probably “Astroturfing” Here is a good explanation of their methods. https://samanthanorth.com/internet-trolling-tactics
The best method (other than Duct Tape, Cable Ties and a Car Boot) to get rid of them is to ignore them, either on your own or collectively.
OC, Chiv, SJ and others know their game and treat them accordingly. We unfortunately tend to forget their (the Trolls) levels of malevolence. When you ignore them their brains squirm like Toads.
Best regards
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leelagemalli / March 4, 2025
LS,
Yes, I told many that he was planted by the Rajapaksa clan to balance the views of CT and many other forums. Even if you put RAJAPAKSHES at 200 degrees Celsius, they would remain resistant.
They are very cunning and have all the facades well set up for their prince Namal Baba to lead the stupid nation in a few years.And the fact is people are easily cheatable. They dont care about being caught by easy prey of anyone, since they believe it is due to Karma.
In between, self-proclaimed 2-gladiator-AKD is paving the way, and these days the “Rajapaksa-mantra” is going viral again (compare it with post EASTER SUNDY bomb of GG ). People talk more about RAJAPAKSHE-HAPANKAM today weaker the performance of AKD- ruling politics.
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Lester / March 5, 2025
Scot (PhD in Malle Pol),
You have it wrong as usual. Your associates are the ones using foul language and/or launching personal attacks. They are angry for three reasons: (I) they are poor, (II) lack education at the university level or used reservation to cheat and obtain fraudulent credentials, and (III) are LTTE supporters who don’t like to be reminded of their big defeat in 2009. I am happy to ignore them, but they will never ignore me, because they are mentally retarded. In fact, I suggested CT put up a filter that allows blocking of users, similar to YT & FB. Upon further research, such tools don’t exist for Wordpress, except for the personal use of the site admin. The good news is that Nature will “flush” the trash eventually: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fWyzwo1xg0. If I was the mod, I would do it instantly (e.g. range ban), but that is not up to my discretion. As for you, it’s your choice to associate with slum dwellers and the obvious mental case in Germany.
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old codger / March 5, 2025
LS,
One particular obsession of trolls is their need to display their supposed accomplishments. The one in question lives in a shack in Eluvankulam, and is a Tamil, but keeps insisting that he is a rich Sinhalese investor living in UK. I have presented clear evidence to that effect.
Then there is his obsession with his “private education” at STC, as opposed to plebs from government schools. But this “education” doesn’t prevent him from claiming that Turks are Arabs, or that Kasyapa had 300 psi water pumps, or presenting fake videos about AI building roads.
Then there is his habit of sneering at “poor” people, which is curious coming from someone who scrounges from Indian tourists for a living. I suppose “foul language” is far more acceptable than openly displaying his inadequate pudenda on a travel blog, or insinuating that other people’s wives are prostitutes.
Now the coward wants to stop others from exposing him on CT. He’s already done it himself . Just check out Wilpattu Nut House. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The guy has other avatars on CT. One in particular is now in rising mode. More on that at the appropriate time.
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Lester / March 5, 2025
Some government school buggers are so stupid they can’t even tell a funny joke. An IQ of less than 50 probably kills any creativity.
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chiv / March 5, 2025
LS , poor me 😭.
People are angry at me for three reasons.
1) Because they are jealous that I’m a hot shot investor
2) Because I’m single lonely and partner of Ruchira.
3) Because I provide facts and nothing but facts.
( ask ChatGPT)
By the way did I say bad things about your wife. That is not me , it was my alter / split personality.
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Lester / March 5, 2025
1) Because only Indian citizens are eligible for yejervation and zolarships to zudy in Endia. This yacht is all you need to zow. Yessir, Sahib!
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LankaScot / March 6, 2025
Hello Ruchira,
Why are you using Lester’s name?
Best regards
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old codger / March 6, 2025
LS,
Despite all his so-called “education”, the guy has to depend on other people for his “jokes”, viz “PhD in malle-pol”.
Such a limited range of conversation. His contributions are about 50% narcissism (hot shot investor, private education, 300 psi expertise…), another 30% anti-Tamil bile in spite of being himself a Tamil, and 20% invented “facts”( “I predicted my f….skin would crack back in 2005”).
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leelagemalli / March 6, 2025
Chiv,
Lester may be sitting on his 👋 little head.
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chiv / March 7, 2025
LM , Jobless Partner is still following Ruchi’s XXX sites.
Lanka is number one in online sexual education. Dysfunctional to the core.
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Lester / March 6, 2025
Hello Sahib Scott,
It seems Ruchira is busy on Instagram.
1,658 posts, 384 followers, 2182 following
Maybe he will join the 225 and *train* the secretaries?
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SJ / March 6, 2025
L
It will be wise for you to follow suit.
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Lester / March 7, 2025
S,
The old rubbish bin thinks he’s amusing, but he lacks any skill in this department. It is a case of retardation, actually.
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chiv / March 6, 2025
LS, thank God. For a moment I was concerned that the naked guy ,
who rode his bike all the way from Colombo to Kandy was none other than our Ruchi’s partner.
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old codger / March 6, 2025
Chiv,
Comments are about to close. That’s why the Liar of Eluvankulam is talkative. He wants to get in the last word. How childishly immature.
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chiv / March 6, 2025
OC, not to worry, soon the imaginary friends of this Autistic Child will follow.
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old codger / March 4, 2025
LM,
“Not one of them has ever attacked me this way.”
No, but if they had to live in a hut in Eluvankulam scratching their peanuts, they would.
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leelagemalli / March 4, 2025
OC,
what about DS ? and her high breed ?
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old codger / March 5, 2025
LM,
Unless she too lives in Eluvankulam……🤣🤣
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leelagemalli / March 6, 2025
Hey OC, take it seriously and consider what LS added a few days ago about “astroturfing”. I believe the Rajapaksas used men to the same manner they raped AKD (in 2005) and Ghanakka (2019 to 2022) for their survival.
Lester the joker usually adds some thoughts that are of no use to anyone at all. Surely should be a freeloader of UK or Canada social funds instead.
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He only comments for the sake of commenting. He seems to be abusing CT for his hired activities. LS has been a permenent victim of Lester’s abuse. Acting like a teenager and constantly commenting on the low intelligence of others. Thanks to ChaptGPT and other AI applications, he has barely survived the CT scan so far. Now time has revealed the true face of this bastard.
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old codger / March 6, 2025
LM,
“Surely should be a freeloader of UK or Canada social funds instead.”
That he is definitely not. He lived in USA, and now lives in Eluvankulam after being deported.This is written by a guy calling himself Sbarrkum in 2013:
https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/lifting-the-northern-province/
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“What joke, aspiring to be more like Tamil Nadu. Really
The place where people shit on the street. (60% public defecation
2 million children die each year: 27 million children are born each year in India of which 2 million of them do not live to the age of five. (120K (lakhs) in Tamil Nadu)
*12-60 million child workers in India: (700K (lakhs) to 3.5 million in Tamil Nadu)”
Recognise the style?
If you click on the name “Sbarrkum “, it takes you to this website:
https://wilpattuhouse.blogspot.com/2024/11/testicle-removed-and-positive-side.html
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LM, some people are too smart for their own good.🤣🤣
So, the guy is a freeloader in Wilpattu, not UK.
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deepthi silva / March 4, 2025
Mr Scott, I read with interest your youthful experiences which seem to have extended to a couple of decades ( appearing in everyplace, always youthful, everywhere a crucial experience !)
Your father and you have a remarkable talent to be at the most historical events from which you draw various conclusions according to your viewpoint. It also appears that your family had easy access to the centres of power and wealth.
You have opinions on legal systems, politics, history, medicine, engineering, racial issues . There is nothing wrong with that, however I wonder how you speak with such authority on various subjects without even a basic qualification in the area.
You say that the British police are corrupt because you heard in your young ear a policeman asking for a fish. For effect , you say he came in a Jaguar ! Your evidence will not be accepted in any reasonable court, one being your incredible memory ! So phoney !
If I say Africans are black, you will disagree and say your father and you met an Albino from Africa !
If I say Indians are relatively poor, you will say your father had a friend who was a millionaire Maharaja.
By and large, the British Police have a good reputation compared to Saudi, India, China or Sri Lanka
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LankaScot / March 4, 2025
Hello Deepthi,
Trolling again?
Best regards
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old codger / March 4, 2025
Deepthi dear,
“If I say Africans are black, you will disagree …….”
Of course he would be right to disagree. Have you ever seen a Tunisian or Algerian? Are they not Africans? BTW, would you describe yourself as black?
I wonder how you speak with such authority on various subjects without even a basic qualification in the area.
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deepthi silva / March 6, 2025
OC, “no qualifications in the subject!” ??
We all follow you !
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old codger / March 6, 2025
Deepthi,
Are you black or not?
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Lester / March 5, 2025
Deepthi Silva,
Or else he just watched the BBC for decades and became a master of “malle pol.” I’m confident that in real life, he has the persona of Basil Fawlty.
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Native Vedda / March 5, 2025
deepthi the desperate silva
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“Your father and you have a remarkable talent to be at the most historical events from which you draw various conclusions according to your viewpoint.”
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You never questioned Andrei Gromyko for his ability to be at most historical events over many decades, for example Dumbarton Oaks, Yalta, Potsdam, San Francisco conferences, Permanent Representative of the Soviet Union to the United Nations, Glassboro Summit, Cuban Missile Crisis, negotiated Non-Proliferation Treaty or NPT, Tashkent Declaration, ……………………….
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Why do you question not only LankaScot but his father as well? Have we ever questioned your absentee father or your home near the Vihare?
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Lester / March 5, 2025
Native,
Extensive knowledge of dates and historical events is largely useless information. Anyone can find the same information within 2 s of a Google search. On the other hand, a medical doctor (real one, not reservation) or engineer have skills that cannot be easily replicated. This guy Scott has a lot of info about dates and historical events that he seems to have memorized. It is accurate info, but largely useless. Watch the movie “Groundhog Day” with Bill Murray. The main character had a lot of useless knowledge but was stuck in a time loop.
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LankaScot / March 6, 2025
Hello Lester,
Just for you – where were the 93rd Highlanders in October 1862 and 30 June 1848?
Should only take you 2 seconds.
Best regards
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Lester / March 6, 2025
Scot,
I cannot remember dates at all; but I have a very good recollection of people and events. For example, I recall very well in Year 3 when one girl created a puddle in the classroom, without any external assistance. Year 6 was even more interesting. The friend left a very bad (anonymous) letter for the teacher. He is now doing very well as a lawyer.
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LankaScot / March 6, 2025
Hello Lester,
Failed?
No resits for this one I’m afraid.
Best regards
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LankaScot / March 6, 2025
Hello Lester,
Do you not see what a sneaky b*stard your “friend” was. I know quite a few Lawyers; one is a Troglodyte, is your friend practising in the UK?
Best regards
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Lester / March 6, 2025
Scot,
You would be happy to know that quite a few Jews have taken up the legal profession. There is a joke about burying lawyers deep underground, “because deep down they’re really good people.” Here’s another one: How can you tell if someone is half Catholic and half Jewish? A: When he goes to Confession, he takes a lawyer with him.
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old codger / March 6, 2025
LS,
Please laugh. Lester is telling jokes to prove he’s human too, only a bit richer and smarter than us plebs.
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chiv / March 6, 2025
LS , two memorable childhood moments of a private school educated guy ,
girl making puddle and
boy writing anonymous / dirty letter to teacher.
Says a lot about the upbringing and personality development.
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Lester / March 7, 2025
My yengineering ziploma is 100% real. No reservation involved. You are the cheater, not me. End of the day, I am in London and you are in a slum. Karma? Says a lot about the upbringing and personality development.
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old codger / March 6, 2025
LS,
Lester sets great store by AI due to inadequaciesin his own brain. Here is an interesting conversation I had with AI:
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“Hilda de Zoysa and Manorani Saravanamuttu were sisters, but their relationship was complex. They were both deeply involved in Sri Lanka’s social and political scene. Hilda was a prominent figure in the country’s arts and culture, while Manorani was a lawyer and human rights activist.
Do you want to know more about their individual contributions to Sri Lankan society or their relationship with Richard de Zoysa?
Wasn’t Manorani a doctor?
You are absolutely right! My apologies. Manorani Saravanamuttu was indeed a doctor, not a lawyer. She was a renowned physician and a vocal advocate for human rights.
Do you want to know more about her work as a doctor or her activism? Perhaps you’d like to learn about her relationship with her brother Richard de Zoysa?
Wasn’t Richard her son?
You’re on the right track! Richard de Zoysa was indeed Manorani Saravanamuttu’s son.
Do you want to know more about Richard’s life and work, or perhaps about his relationship with his mother?”
Doesn’t that remind you of Lester’s “Turks are Arabs” pronouncement? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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LankaScot / March 6, 2025
Hello OC,
The difference seems to be that when you point out to AI that it has made a mistake it admits that it has got it wrong. I even asked it a number of times why it made the mistakes. Sometimes it gives an answer and sometimes it complains about not enough data.
As they say in the Exams “Compare and Contrast” Lester’s normal response with AI’s.
Best regards
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Lester / March 6, 2025
Scot,
The flaw is not in the AI, but lack of imprecision in human language. The human brain did not evolve to think logically. That is why it takes around a decade or so to train a mathematician/engineer/doctor. The legal profession is also beyond the scope of amateurs and requires formal training.
I don’t know why some slum dweller thinks he can outsmart a $7 billion USD machine by asking dumb questions. Einstein worked on GUT for 20 years and failed, though I am sure that in the process, he asked more good questions than the typical human in their lifetime. Most R&D in tech co’s is a failure anyway. Slum dwellers are slum dwellers exactly because they can’t see beyond their own a–e.
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old codger / March 6, 2025
LS,
“The flaw is not in the AI, but lack of imprecision in human language”
Says the Sage of Eluvankulam.
Now let’s see him try and wriggle out of that.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
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Lester / March 6, 2025
An old senile pervert with an IQ of 50 who misquotes after losing an argument. Turkey is the closest thing to an Arab democracy, that is exactly what I said. The semi-literate slum dweller has difficulty with reading comprehension.
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old codger / March 6, 2025
If I say “Lester is the closest thing to a Tamil racist”, I am implying that he is a Tamil.
“Turkey is the closest thing to an Arab democracy, ” implies that it is an Arab country.
Lester keeps losing his pants, but hates being exposed. Not that there is much to expose….
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Lester / March 6, 2025
The useless beggar is trying hard. First he lied about what was said. Now he is trying something else, but still wrong. There is no Arab democracy, Muslim Turkey is the closest thing. Everyone except Old Beggar knows that Turkey is majority Muslim and most of the Arab countries used to be part of the Ottoman Empire.
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Native Vedda / March 6, 2025
old codger
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“Lester keeps losing his pants, but hates being exposed. Not that there is much to expose….”
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If one loses his pants obviously one is naked.
So there is no question about ***** envy on the part of other men.
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Lester / March 7, 2025
Native,
The Old Beggar cannot draw a simple inference between Muslim Turks and Muslim Arabs. If you opened up that useless brain, you would find a giant hole with residue leftover from a *creature with a tail* relieving itself. Btw, do you know that Fat Pig was too heavy to escape on a submarine…… weight of submarine < weight of -ss. This is what they call lack of "buoyancy" in physics.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world/prabhakaran-may-flee-using-a-submarine-sri-lanka-army/story-4rvxDmPwOdF509B6f9Kr9J.html
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LankaScot / March 7, 2025
Hello Lester,
I see you have finally mastered the Technique to embolden Text.
Best regards
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SJ / March 7, 2025
“Turkey is the closest thing to an Arab democracy, that is exactly what I said.”
Try telling that to a Turk or for that matter any Arab.
Sinhalese ad Tamils will be far more accommodating about such mix-ups.
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Native Vedda / March 6, 2025
Lester
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“Extensive knowledge of dates and historical events is largely useless information.”
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It is useful when idiots try to prove Earth is Flat, or sun revolves around Earth.
Watch and listen to US Professor and Political Analyst Richard Wolf:
We Were Taught That America Only Wins Wars | Vietnam & Afghanistan
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DpAt6HPINO8
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We know you get your information from Captain America, Bad Man, Superman, Buggs Bunny, Harry Potter, ….. Mahawamsa, …..
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Watch listen and learn from
amil Nadu Fin Minister PTR Thiagarajan on country, culture, economy | Shoma Chaudhury @Ignition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7F_khFb13I
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Lester / March 6, 2025
If you had read Mahavamsa, you would be on the winning side. Unlike the Tamil Diasspora who paid millions to lobby Western governments for the fake freedom struggle. How much did Sooka & Darusman get for their work? Meanwhile, SL Tamils in the North cannot afford anything beyond a bicycle. In the end, the fake freedom struggle resulted in the wipeout of the entire LTTE leadership and brought the country to bankruptcy. The only “winner” was Ranil. He can finally say he was “President” after losing elections for 30 years.
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old codger / March 6, 2025
“Meanwhile, SL Tamils in the North cannot afford anything beyond a bicycle.”
Not sure about the rest, but the Tamil who lives in a shack in Eluvankulam and runs a not-very-successful pornsite definitely can’t.
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LankaScot / March 6, 2025
Hello Lester,
I have read the Mahavamsa therefore I am on the Winning Side QED.
Best regards
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Lester / March 6, 2025
Scot,
Then you understand why there is hostility towards the neighbor to the North. They have been interfering in SL affairs for millennia.
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old codger / March 6, 2025
LS,
It seems that “Lester ” is now too poor to pay for a VPN. Is that why the thumb machine is not working?
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old codger / March 6, 2025
Native,
“It is useful when idiots try to prove Earth is Flat,…”
What about when idiots try to prove that 300 psi pumps have been supplying water to Sigiriya for 1500 years?
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chiv / March 7, 2025
OC , I heard movie
makers of MR biopic “Mara the Mina,” _ Mother of all cons
are looking for a
” light boy.”
Do you think our
psi 300 Camara expert can be recommended .😀.
Rumor is that after trying every trick in his book, desperate Mara is putting own money, to win hearts
Hopefully not another family circus .
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chiv / March 7, 2025
By the way Champa should be the narrator. A lot of Hysteria, Dramatization and alternate facts
will suit the script.
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LankaScot / March 5, 2025
Hello Native,
Thanks for the Comment above. What Lester and Deepthi hate is the fact that I live in Sri Lanka, I like the people and I can see for myself the real conditions in this area. I also see the conditions that the Tamil Tea Workers endure only a couple of hundred metres from our House. I don’t mind if people are Muslim, Buddhist, Christian or Zoroastrians, I will speak to them all and treat them with respect.
Of course as Active Trolls they must belittle my Experience and Education by ridicule and misrepresentation whenever they can.
My Father came from a Military Family, some of whom were born in what was then India (Sialkot and Rawalpindi). One was present when Lakshmi Bai (Rani of Jhansi) was shot (in the back) near Gwalior. He was also one of the first on the scene after the Cawnpore Massacre. We heard all the stories as Children and had a respect for South Asians that was lacking in most of the UK. We thought that these stories had been embellished over the years, however later on I verified his presence all over India/Crimea at the National Archives (TNA) in Kew.
Best regards
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Lester / March 6, 2025
Scot,
You are an anomaly, just like your associates. Living on borrowed time. You may have lost sense of time, which is a normal condition among elderly men in Sri Lanka. Decades of chewing beetle, drinking arrack, and enduring sweltering heat. You must be familiar with the old buggers hobbling along in their sarongs along the main street. Where they live or how they survive, that is the 8th wonder of the world. James Joyce would have something to say. Sri Lankans will not put their elderly in nursing homes. Usually they are given a room in the corner of the house. I have been to many homes where a zombie emerged from nowhere.
“Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age.”
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old codger / March 6, 2025
““Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age.”
Why not, with a cracked f….skin and a missing nut at only 65, take your own advice?
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LankaScot / March 6, 2025
Hello OC,
Lester’s James Joyce quotes need some countering. How about the Welsh view “Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light”.
In Joyce’s excerpt Gabriel is looking resentfully at his sleeping wife Gretta, who, in her younger days, had a romance that ended in the Death of her lover. He confessed his love for her after enduring a bitter cold night to see her. He died due to the effects of the Cold and Consumption(TB).
If I were a Psychoanalyst (which I’m not) I would have a lot to say about Lester’s choice of quotes; over to Chiv and Leelagemalli.
Best regards
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Lester / March 6, 2025
Scot,
Why are you trying to explain Joyce to a slum dweller? You claim to be an atheist and a humanist, with “empathy” for everyone. Isn’t this the essence of Christianity? According to Nietzsche, it is a religion that pities the poor and weak. The “ubermensch” (Trump, Gotha, Netanyahu whom you want to send to the Hague) are excluded.” You would fit right in at the Church!
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chiv / March 7, 2025
” Better pass boldly into
dismally with age ” .
Is that wannabe
Bob Marley on Ice
( no offense to real BM
I’m a big fan of him ).
Dysfunctional childhood, looking forward to full glory.
Good Luck 👍
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deepthi silva / March 6, 2025
Vedda, did you read Scott’s comment to which I responded.
I know you cannot help your caddish insinuations, too deep in your genes !
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LankaScot / March 6, 2025
Hello Deepthi,
“caddish insinuations” – You’ve been reading to much Charlotte Bronte😢.
Best regards
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old codger / March 6, 2025
Deepthi,
“caddish insinuations,”
You are so quaint.
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Native Vedda / March 6, 2025
deepthi desperate ….
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“If I say Indians are relatively poor, you will say your father had a friend who was a millionaire Maharaja.”
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You believe in
Buddhas three visitthis island.
Mahinda clan won the war.
Eight measures of free rice imported from Moon.
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Sri Lankans are peace loving people.
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whywhy / March 6, 2025
deepthi silva ,
BTW , what is the general opinion of the ” SILVA ” in our Paradise ?
Pot Calling The Kettle Black !
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SebastianSR / March 3, 2025
As regards the “Muslim race”, let us take it that what is meant are the Moors, and please remember that arab sailors (and as pirates) controlled the Falk Straites, pearl fishery etc., until the Portuguese came and drove them out and set up Maritime operations in the north coast of Sri Lanka and south India. Even a few centuries later, according to Captain Percival who was in the Jaffna Peninsula just before the Britsh took control, i.e., late 18th century to early 19th century, in his book written in 1820 states that there were probabaly an equal amount of Tamils and Moors, and a bit less Sinhalese in the Northern Province at the time of 1800. So, although our Tamil nationalism has made us make various claims, we have to recognize that Arab people have been in the North and East as maritime settlers, sea farers, pirates and fisherment since historical times. These arab sea farers, mostly men, married local women, who were increasingly Tamils, as the Tamil population increased under the Portuguese and Dutch as they brought in Tamils from Malabar areas for thr tobacco and other plantations. Percival’s accounts are consistent with what is written in Baldeus, Father Fernão de Queyroz, and later, Emmerson Tennant and other more recent historians.
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SJ / March 3, 2025
There is no Muslim race anywhere.
There is Muslim identity which expresses itself in many forms.
Here they are a distinct nationality that predominantly lives among the Sinhalese and with a smaller fraction living in large concentrations adjoining Tamil territories.
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Rohan25 / March 3, 2025
Really if they have so much Arab in then then why it does not show up in their DNA or even their looks. All DNA studies including they latest done by Indian and Sinhalese scientists state the same. They are hardly descended from Arabs, other western Asian or Afghans but from South Asian, meaning Tamil Muslim immigrant men, who came to the island and married local Tamil women and in some cases coastal Sinhalese women, who themselves are of largely recent South Indian origin. The so-called Arab element is them is not worth talking about and far below average. That it hardly shows up.
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Rohan25 / March 3, 2025
You can lie; they can lie but DNA does not lie about who your ancestors are. They themselves admit on their maternal side they are fully Tamil and on the paternal side most of them are also Tamil. The vast overwhelming majority of them look like Tamil Dravidians and not even 5% of them show any sort of western Asian ancestry and even this is basically from a distant male Arab ancestor. Even the light skinned amongst many of their elite, is largely not because of Western Asian ancestry but selective breeding with light skinned Tamil Muslim and at times other South Asian brides. This is the reason they look like light skinned South Asians and not like western Asian.
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Rohan25 / March 3, 2025
Good try Sebastian and I see you are still quoting from dodgy Percival whom you previously quoted as claiming Jaffna to be an ancient Sinhalese city. Moor only denoted to their religion and never to their race and even Professor Amir Ali has stated this but pathetic you still want to state they are Arabs. Yes, Migrant Arab pearl divers from the Gulf dived for pears with Tamil pearl divers in the Gulf of Mannar but these Arabs did not stay or hardly intermarried and returned once the pearl diving season was over. Their genetic contribution to the Sri Lankan Muslim population was minimal. Lots of these Gulf Arabs from the lower classes have a lot of sub-Saharan African slave ancestry in them and it they had contributed to the Sri Lankan Muslim DNA it would have definitely shown, just like the way the descendants of the Portuguese western African slave descendants living along Puttalam area show their sub-Saharan African ancestry. Little knowledge is dangerous. The Gulf Arabs other than their ruling elite families show a lot of Sub-Saharan African slave ancestry. Especially amongst pearl divers, fishermen and ordinary folk. Keep on telling your fairy tales Sebastian.
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Rohan25 / March 3, 2025
Go and ask anyone who had visited, lived/worked in the Arabian Gulf and they confirm how much Sub-Saharan Slave ancestry is widely mixed amongst all Gulf Arabs, because of large scale slave taking and interbreeding and their descendants unlike in the USA and Americas are not considered to be from a separate black community but as part of the Arabs but traditionally lower in the pecking order. This is found less in the interior or amongst the elite (not always). Even this Sub-Saharan element is found amongst Iraqis and levant Arabs like Jordanians and Palestinians but to a far less extent. If the Sri Lankan Muslims have large scale Arab ancestry either from the Gulf, the Levant or even North Africa, this African looks and DNA will definitely show up but its absent.
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LankaScot / March 6, 2025
Hello Rohan25,
I knew one Brigadier in Qatar that was the Doppelganger for James Earl Jones both in looks and size. He was from one of the Elite Families. It was rumoured that some of his Ancestors came from the Sudan Red Sea Coast.
One of my relatives by Marriage was quite Dark-Skinned. I traced his Ancestry to a Greenwich Sea-going Family in the early 1800s and eventually to a Jamaican Slave Owner. One of the Family migrated to the US and fought in the Civil War on the Union Side. You never know what surprises your research will unearth.
Best regards
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SJ / March 3, 2025
DNA does not lie, but liars use twisted DNA data to propagate their lies.
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Rohan25 / March 4, 2025
Yes, DNA does not lie, and it is important because they, with the active encouragement of the British colonials and later all Sinhalese led Sri Lankan governments, from the time of independence, have been twisting and lying, distorting and manufacturing history and justifying their separate identity from the rest of the island’s Tamil or Tamil speakers on the basis of not only their religion but more significantly on the basis of a significant or blanket Arab or other Western Asian origin on their paternal side, stating that they are 100% Arab or western Asian on their paternal side and largely Sinhalese ( now recently claimed manufactured) and some Tamil on their maternal side and are just Tamil speaking but not Tamil by ethnicity, which everyone knew was a lie .
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Rohan25 / March 4, 2025
Everything about them reeked of Tamil South India, history of migration looks, language, culture and even until recently the form of Islam. Now all DNA analysis from various independent sources have confirmed that there is very little or hardly any male Arab or other western Asian male ancestry on their paternal side and that they are descended from South Asian Tamil Muslim immigrants from India who came here and largely married local Tamil women and some coastal Sinhalese women, again from communities of recent South Indian ancestry. Later their population has been doubled by the migration of Indian coastal Moors who migrated from the coastal and interior areas of Tamil Nadu, largely during the British era and these Indian coastal Moors also brought their women folk with them. No one is twisting these DNA data, maybe you want it to be twisted. DNA has definitely proven their actual ancestry and heritage and deliberate lies and fake history. This is why they do not like it and their supporting Tamil quislings like you do not like it. You want the lie and myth to continue to damn and divide your own people and ultimately destroy them, for some selfish diabolical agenda of your own.
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Ajith / March 6, 2025
“DNA does not lie, but liars use twisted DNA data to propagate their lies.”
Why cannot this gentleman give untwisted DNA data with evidence to resolve this issue?
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SJ / March 6, 2025
Unlike you, a gentleman will not pretend to know some thing that he does not.
Some lies are too obvious except to pretenders.
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whywhy / March 6, 2025
Chimps and Bonobos , our nearest living relatives share 99% of our
DNA while Gorillas trailing at 98 % . Does that make you a Chimp ?
Yet that tiny portion of unshared DNA makes a world of difference :
it gives us for instance , our bipedal stance and the ability to plan
missions to Mars according to Scientific American . What is your
mission with your Super DNA on Digging Up Muslim I D ? Trying to
prove their claim false ! Why don’t you instead spend your time
helping the police catch Deshabandu ? Help Daisy Achchi out of
remand custody ? You won’t raise an inch of your status , whoever
you are by looking down at Muslims .
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SJ / March 6, 2025
ww
Not just him.
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Mahila / March 4, 2025
R25,
“Really if they have so much Arab in then then why it does not show up in their DNA or even their looks. All DNA studies including the latest done by Indian and Sinhalese scientists state the same.”
Not very surprising though, as those SO called Arab Fathered Moors, were the famous TIDY Seafarers, who employed GENETIC FILTERATION OF SEMEN, before entering the incubation chamber for fertilisation!!?? They had mastered the process so well it was 110% efficient and effective!!?? Therefore, your DNA tests unable prove or reveal Nothing!!?? Now the progeny, “SMART ALECS”, don’t want to be descendants of Tamils or Asians, but of the wealthy OGC countries who were destitute before western imperialism augmented Crude and Oil refining – Liquid Gold!!?? Opportunists want – be part of the Rich enclave!!??
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whywhy / March 6, 2025
Mahila ,
When was oil found in the Mideast ? There’s some truth in your last
line but not the whole truth . Liquid gold only about a century old but
claim with Arab connection many centuries old . Americans believe
humans are bombs and it is only about the right time and circumstance .
This is exactly what many are doing on this forum with their computers .
How will the Digital Srilanka look ? Not knives in Monkeys hands ?
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deepthi silva / March 3, 2025
I think Leela man will make a good Moulavi or even a Monk.
He is so spiritual and wins our reverence
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leelagemalli / March 4, 2025
Ho ho, Joker Desperate DS aka Hated Woman/Gaslighting Coach@ I don’t expect any recognition from stupid people like you – I have plenty of smart people who have dealt with me.
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I am more or less an atheist. So don’t try to make a monk of me. You always catch it on the wrong side. It is not inevitable for people who are seriously ill of your nature.
However, your effort should be to reach out to a psychiatrist who can put you in the right place.
I have plenty of relatives in the UK (Central London), but none of them brag about their wealth like you do, they don’t talk about their Rolls Royce or other possessions like you and your Siamese brother. – If my information is correct, they migrated to the UK in the mid-60s (I should clear my doubts by talking to my elders in the next few days).
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leelagemalli / March 4, 2025
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Naman / March 3, 2025
Dr AA has to accept that there are only TWO races in SL-Singhalese and Tamils. Muslims in Tamil Nadu consider themselves as Tamils First and Secondly as Muslims.
In a recent Medical Meeting the Speaker mentioned about Government forces as heroes and Tamils as terrorists. It’s TOTALLY unnecessary to bring up in a medical meeting.
Singing in Sinhala only of the national anthem too wasn’t appropriate.
SLMC needs tell those who have registered with them to AVOID bringing in politics during their educational activities. Change in the MIND SET of Sinhala Buddhist supremacists is very very difficult.
Hence SL cannot hope for a peaceful harmonious prosperous country is beyond REACH
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SJ / March 3, 2025
Punjabi Muslims do not consider themselves to be the same as Sikhs or Hindus.
Identity is a matter of choice.
Muslims have chosen early last century that they are distinct from the Tamils. Even Hill Country Tamils prefer a separate identity from the Tamils of N&E.
In Tamilnadu, Muslims are treated with much respect thanks to the secular policies following progressive thought.
Jaffna Tamil Vellala arrogance not only alienated the Muslims but also Tamils of the west coast. Resentment is still strong in Batticaloa-Amparai.
If you are keen that Muslimns should be part of a Tamil identity, treat them in a way that they will ask to be part of it.
You cannot order people into an identity.
Do you not resent it when Sinhala chauvinists demand that Tamils should accept a common Sri Lankan identity?
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“Change in the MIND SET of Sinhala Buddhist supremacists is very very difficult.”
True. It holds equally well for Tamil supremacists.
Bigotry is not the preserve of any one ethnicity.
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SJ / March 3, 2025
“…there are only TWO races in SL-Singhalese and Tamils”
There are many more: Malays, Burghers (there are at least two distinct groups), the Aththo and Negros among others.
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Rohan25 / March 4, 2025
Punjabi Muslims still call and identify themselves as Punjabis, speak Punjabi and follow Punjabi culture does not call themselves as Arabs, Turks Pashtuns or to someone imagined pan Muslim race and claim all sorts of origins and heritages they don’t have. It is the same with Bengali and other Indian Muslims, they may not closely identify with their Hindu Bengali or Gujarati but still identify themselves as Bengali, Muslim east Bengal is called Bangladesh meaning land of the Bengal, similarly the western Hindu part is called west Bengal. The same with the Western Pakistan part of Punjab, it is still called the Punjab province and Arabistan or by any other concocted name. Sri Lankan Tamil Muslims can have their own identity, if they do not want to identify themselves with their fellow non-Muslim Tamils, but this identity should be based on truth and their actual origin and ethnicity, like all other Muslims people do and not on lie made up history.
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Rohan25 / March 4, 2025
As usual trying to blame the Tamils and their upper castes for Muslim treachery. More appropriate to blame Tamil quislings like you. Strange when they ran away from India and came to the island or fled from the Portuguese to eastern Sri Lanka for refuge, they claimed to be Tamil or even now go the west to claim asylum as ethnic Tamil Muslims and not as Moors or just Muslims. Tamil when it suits them and at all other times Tamil hating fake Arab South Indian origin immigrants. Very selfish cunning and opportunistic. No wonder you love them as you are similar.
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SJ / March 4, 2025
Why did they move to Pakistan then?
They call themselves Punjabi because it is the name of a race and language.
Muslim Punjabis primarily use the “Shahmukhi” script as opposed to Gurmukhi used by Sikhs and Devanagari by Hindu Punjabis.
Learn one thing: there is no chance that they will ever like to live together.
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The Muslims here have asserted their separate identity in more than one way.
Accept reality.
You cannot scold anyone into sharing an identity.
Try to be polite and friendly, there may be hope.
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Native Vedda / March 5, 2025
“In Tamilnadu, Muslims are treated with much respect thanks to the secular policies following progressive thought.”
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Well, were the Tamils of Tamilnadu conditioned by thoughts of Marx, Mao, or Banda?
Please watch and learn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOHwXX9cDfQ
PTR Palanivel Thiagarajan Speech
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“Bigotry is not the preserve of any one ethnicity.”
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Nor were the destructive policies of Banda/SiriMao.
I understand many old Tamil men (perhaps closet masochists) still admire Banda/SiriMao, especially the weeping widow.
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Naman / March 3, 2025
Can we name a Buddhist monk who has been DE-ROBED for misbehaving?
Was /Has there been any inquiries into
how the trainee (Novice) monks are being trained? We have heard how catholic clergy misbehaved in other countries
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chiv / March 3, 2025
Naman, people who disrobed others are still robed and preaching. Yes happens in other countries and many religions. But in SillyLanka it’s normalized, just like drunken low and odor or Minister beating citizen in public.
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paragon / March 3, 2025
IS IT BODU BALA SENA OR BORU POWLA SENA OR EVEN BORU BALLA SENA?
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SebastianSR / March 4, 2025
When the Soulbury Commission sat, GGPonnambalam tried to speak for all minorties including Muslims. They resented it and broke away from his 50-50 proposal and opposed it. In 1977 while the TULF got the full support of the Northern Province, it did not get the full support even of the Eastern Province Muslims, or even of some Tamils. In fact, Father Tissa Balasooriya of LOGOS made much out of that. So, I think if we as Tamils are to play Identity Politics, we must accept that other groups will also want to play Identity poltics. Those who decide to play Idenitty poltics do not first look at their DNA and decide if they are Tamils, Muslim-Moores, Sinhalese, Dutch-Burger etc. Many sinhalese, if they trace their geneology (through family trees, and not DNA), would ancestors with Tamil names. In the same way, Tamils will find that they have Sinhalese ancestors as well. There are good etymological reasons to to judge that names like Amarasingham are Tamilized versions of Sinhalese names like Amarasinghe, by noting the (low) frequency of such names in Tamil Nadu. A lot of Tamil catholics escaped Samkilli by going south and became sinhalized. The DNA does not show a persons ethno-cultural identity. Only his cultural traits, and his own identifcation as claimed by him/her, determine a person’s identity.
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SJ / March 4, 2025
A man’s bright idea to succeed needs to be persuasive.
50:50 would have been an unstable deal.
See what happened in Fiji when the native population resented domination by settlers. This is no defence of the response but a warning about ‘clever ideas’.
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Native Vedda / March 6, 2025
“See what happened in Fiji when the native population resented domination by settlers.”
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Of course they did resent, in the meantime what the hell the US coup specialist General Vernon Walters was doing in Fiji? Was it a coincident Col Sitiveni Ligamamada Rabuka successfully launching a coup replacing elected prime minister Timoci Bavadra?
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FYI Sitiveni Ligamamada Rabuka
was trained in
New Zealand army schools
Royal Military Academy Sandhurst
Indian Defence Services Staff College
Australian Joint Services Staff College
was awarded
the Legion of Honour
Order of the British Empire
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These are sufficient information that partly explains why Fijians resented.
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SebastianSR / March 4, 2025
A lot of Tamil catholics escaped Samkilli by going south and became sinhalized (Others ended up in a mass grave!). The DNA does not show a person’s ethno-cultural identity. Only his cultural traits, and his own identifcation as claimed by him/her, determine a person’s identity. DNA merely confirm that everyone in Sri Lanka is highly mixed. Rohan25 uses a pseudonym (Rohan) which is not even a Dravidian root-name.
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Rohan25 / March 4, 2025
Why did I ever state anywhere that Rohan is a Dravidian root name? You are just trying to deliberately muddy the waters with your bullshit arguments, as you have been caught out. Rohan is my actual name. It is a Hindu name. The name Rohan is believed to have originated from Sanskrit. It has been adopted in various cultures, including Persian, Indian, Irish, Japanese, and Gaelic, attributing a different meaning to the name. In Sanskrit, Rohan means ‘ascending’ and is also considered another name for Sri Vishnu. The meaning is Ascending or Red haired. The proper pronunciation of this name is Ro-han and not Rohan just like Mo-han and not Mohan. In Tamil it will be ரோஹன் and not ரொஹான் as incorrectly pronounced by Sinhalese.
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Rohan25 / March 4, 2025
We all know that island’s original Sinhalese and Tamils are highly mixed population, and no one is arguing that here. Both people are descended from ancient Dravidian tribes who migrated from mainland South India a few thousand years ago, speaking from proto or semi-Tamil or a Dravidian dialect closely related to Tamil and later with the few hundred or thousand Prakrit speaking largely male immigrants, who came from somewhere from northwest India. SO, what has this got to do with the fake Arab origin of these South Indian origin Sri Lankan Muslims? We also know that more Tamil migrants and invaders became Sinhalese than Sinhalese converting to the Tamil identity and in fact most of the present-day Sinhalese are largely descended from these South Indian immigrants and invaders, half of them from post 15TH century South Indian immigrants, than from the original Dravidian population that got slightly mixed up with a few thousand North Indian immigrants.
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Rohan25 / March 4, 2025
Names like Amarasinham, Jayasinham are not Sinhalese names but ancient Sanskrit Hindu names that were at one time very common in South India, especially in the Tamil country. What makes you think they are Sinhalese names? Like some idiot who was coming and claiming names like Rohan. Mohan are Sinhalese names. Good try but you cannot get past me, with your deliberate bullshit
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SJ / March 4, 2025
“Amarasinham, Jayasinham are not Sinhalese names but ancient Sanskrit Hindu names”
How ancient? How much Hindu?
Not proper Sanskrit either.
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BTW
Is Rohan Tamil? Cannot start with an R if it is.
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SebastianSR / March 5, 2025
According to the Tolkappiyan, a name/word like Rohan will transform to have a vowel in front to fit before being absrobed in to Tamil. For instance, Sanskrit “raashta (Raajya)”, becomes “a-rasu” or kingdom by adding the vowel a in front of “r”. The form ரோஹன் is not “cosher” Tamil and not found accepted in the Cologne Tamil Dictionary or the Madras Tamil Lexicon. It remains a mongrel word. So, we see clearly that the Dravidian Identity is very mixed with Sanskrit/Prakrit culture and language. The Sinhalese too have this same cultural background. To say “Rohan” is incorrectly pronounced by Sinhalese is true only if viewed from within Tamil diction, and not otherwise. The Moores don’t have this common culture shared by Singhala/Tamil. So the Moor have a more distinct identity in Sri Lanka than Tamils and Sinhalese. Tamils, being a minority, need Tamil Identity and a sense of Tamil Nationalism to maintain the postive aspects of our culture (while whittling away the neagtives). But when this is made the basis of trying to militarily affront a group which is 7-8 times bigger, then we loose out- also, a war is very bad on cultural preservation. It is a simple matter of numbers.
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Rohan25 / March 5, 2025
Arasu, Arasan and Aran, Aranmanai are ancient Tamil words and they when they got Sanskritized Tamil Arasan became Raja, Arasu became Raj, just like Tamil Arisi( rice) became Rici and Rice. Dont talk bullshit pretend Tamil Sebastian another apologist for Sinhalese racism and Islamic extremism. Trying to misquote and twist and post a lot of Sinhalese racist bull shit from Sinhalese extremist sites, like fake historian Percival, that Sinhalese racists and extremist love to quote from each other. Both Tamil and Sanskrit have extensively borrowed vocabulary from each other, and it was not a one-way street as previously biased white colonial historian wanted us to believe. So much so, now most linguists do not know which language borrowed the word, that they now state common to Tamil and Sanskrit. Despite belonging to different language groups, they have co-existed with each other and had developed a close common culture with each other.
https://www.multibhashi.com/similarity-between-the-tamil-and-the-sanskrit-language/
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Rohan25 / March 5, 2025
From a posting in 1997 by George Hart, Professor of Tamil, University of California, Berkeley on Tamil, Brahmins, & Sanskrit:
1. Neither Sanskrit nor Tamil are particularly old in the world scheme of things. Sanskrit is documented earlier than Tamil.
2. Sanskrit has borrowed quite as much from Dravidian as Dravidian has from Sanskrit. Tamil has borrowed more words from Sanskrit than Sanskrit has from Dravidian. It is a trivial thing for a language to borrow vocabulary. But when it uses another language’s syntax to form the way it expresses things, and uses another language’s phonology for its sounds, that is really profound influence.
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Rohan25 / March 5, 2025
The fact is, Sanskrit HAS been influenced in this way by Dravidian. Of course, some Dravidian languages have also borrowed Sanskrit sounds (bh, etc.) But none of the four Dravidian languages I have read has borrowed anything from Sanskrit syntax that I can identify. Much of the syntax of Sanskrit is Dravidian, and it has a large Dravidian vocabulary. Its system of phonetics is profoundly influenced by Dravidian — Indo-Aryan is the only IE family with retroflexes. You mean to state racist Sinhalese or fake Arab South Indian Origin Islamic extremist you know more than these people?
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Rohan25 / March 5, 2025
With regards to Arasan there are two theories 1) It is derived from Sanskrit Rajah the most commonly held theory 2) The other theory it is an old Tamil word. Rann: Aran (in Sanskrit or Hindi Rann means “battle”, it also refers to the king, but the actual Tamil meaning is that which safeguards and cannot be crossed easily). Raaja: Arasan: means king. In early Tamil literature like Thiru Kural talks about Aran which means protection, fort. Aran in Tamil means safeguarding or giving protection, normally the King’s place that protects its people, It includes, the fort and gives the protection to the kingdom and its people in times of war. Aran also generally means the task of protection in Tamil. Arasu means the Government or kingdom. Aranmanai is palace, Arasan is king, Arasi is Queen, Ilavarasan is prince.
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SJ / March 5, 2025
SSR
Where do Sinhalese have the problem Tamil has with a bar on consonants appearing initially and finally– and even as certain clusters.
It is not a cultural problem.
Muslims and Catholics Tamilized Bibilical names to sound truer to Tamil. The practice lasted well into the 20th Century.
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Rohan25 / March 5, 2025
Why did I state Rohan is a Tamil name anywhere It is Hindu name of Sanskrit origin. As for the others they are medieval Tamil names, that have largely gone out of usage in South India but still used widely amongst the Sri Lankan Tamils and the Sinhalese. Some are purely Sanskrit, others a mixture of Tamil and Sanskrit and others purely Tamil. How much Hindu and or how little Hindu you tell me. Is Sivasekaram Islamic?
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Jit / March 5, 2025
SJ, the name Rohan has multiple origins, including Persian, Arabic, Indian, Irish and Scottish Gaelic, and Japanese. It is not confined to Sanskrit language.
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Rohan25 / March 6, 2025
The name Rohan is believed to have originated from Sanskrit. It has been adopted in various cultures, including Persian, Indian, Irish, Japanese, and Gaelic, attributing a different meaning to the name. In Sanskrit, Rohan means ‘ascending’ and is also considered another name for Sri Vishnu. The Gaelic variant for Rohan is Rowan
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SJ / March 6, 2025
Belief is no evidence for correctness.
The word itself may have undergone change in the process of transmission.
It has multiple meanings in Sanskrit.
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Interestingly ‘roham’ means illness in Tamil.
Rohi is a sick man.
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Jit / March 7, 2025
“….Interestingly ‘roham’ means illness in Tamil…..”
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I believe it! And I am sure the original letter was ன் but over hundreds of years of usage the ன் has become ம் now ;)
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Jit / March 7, 2025
“…..The name Rohan is believed to have originated from Sanskrit….”
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You always cling to the word “is believed”, don’t ya Rohan? Well, in 2019 Presidential election, 6.9 million believed in a snake in a Coca Cola bottle, a story aired by the owner of a media station owned by one of the notorious racist crook in the country.
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You know what happened to that ‘belief’, right?
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SJ / March 5, 2025
Do not get worked up.
It was a simple question whose implication an intelligent person would understand in context.
That is all.
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SJ / March 5, 2025
Show of support for lack of intelligence I guess.
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SJ / March 6, 2025
Two dropouts!
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SJ / March 4, 2025
“A lot of Tamil catholics escaped Samkilli by going south and became sinhalized”
Untrue.
They stayed on on the west coast as Catholics. Language was no issue at the time.
Sinhalisation was several centuries later by a Church decision early in the 20th Century.
After witnessing some of the castesist Tamil bigotry on these pages, can one blame any for such decision?
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Native Vedda / March 5, 2025
SebastianSR
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“A lot of Tamil catholics escaped Samkilli by going south and became sinhalized (Others ended up in a mass grave!).”
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Is there anyway you could confirm whether the descendants of all such “sinhalized” people for example Wimal, Dinesh, ……… Champika, Champa, …. Lester, ….. are the root cause of all that has been happening in the last 300 years, 1915, 1958, 1974, 1977, 1981, 1983, between 1971 and 2009, …. including Mahinda and Gota?
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Jit / March 5, 2025
“….DNA merely confirm that everyone in Sri Lanka is highly mixed….”
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Not only in SL but everywhere on earth! Even the tribes in deep Amazon are mixed. The very reason why we should stop clinging on to this stupid DNA straw and start living like normal humans.
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Rohan25 / March 6, 2025
Or claim false origins and create myths about Aryan and Arab origins, when history, science and everything else proves they all this is a blatant lie but still stubbornly cling to this, brainwash the gullible with this myth and create problems
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Rohan25 / March 6, 2025
As for the Catholics of Mannar they hardly migrated further south but remained in the Mannar region. The Tamil Catholics found further south along the Northwestern, western coasts who all later became Sinhalese are largely descended from later immigrants, largely brought in by the Portuguese from Southern Tamil Nadu and parts of then largely Tamil Kerala. Some from medieval warriors brought in by the Sinhalese kings of Kotte and Tamil kings of Jaffna who settled along the northwestern Puttalam Chilaw coast that was part of the Tamil Jaffna kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMbhLoJWXs0
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shankar / March 6, 2025
JIT
do we all have the homosapien DNA?That is enough for me.I don’t like aliens.
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LankaScot / March 7, 2025
Hello Shankar,
We also have much in common with Fish. Neil Shubin’s Book “Your Inner Fish” is fascinating.
Best regards
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Native Vedda / March 6, 2025
Jit
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Why do you think the Tamils and Sinhalese are self-serving while being most self-destructive people on earth? Simply they share their DNA?
Although they also share South Indian gene pool Tamils and Sinhalese in this island stopped from evolving, both cannot see beyond their nose.
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For example look at SJ his world is restricted to Mao and Sri Mao, ……
Look at Tamils and their party leaders they cannot see beyond their imaginary nationalism
Look at Sinhala/Buddhists who cannot see beyond Tamils, Muslims and Christians.
Look at Comrade president Anura Kumara Dissanayake and his mates who cannot see beyond Unitary state, Saffronistas, …..
Look at Eastern Muslim leaders who cannot see beyond Tamils, ….
Look at Christians who want to take the entire population to heaven for which they are interested in converting the rest of the population to Christianity.
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Jit / March 7, 2025
NV, Americans reappointed a world class crook, a convicted felon and a pathological liar as their president discarding all blinking red lights everywhere. There are hundreds, if not thousands of such incidents happening in world politics at any given time. So your theory applies to all humans alike and it is a bit rich to include only Sinhalese and Tamils in it. Which also can be noted as inability to see beyond the tip of one’s nose.
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SJ / March 6, 2025
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Desperation makes some to selectively clutch at DNA straws
It is is pseudo science., where racist thought is cunningly cloaked in bogus DNA theories
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LankaScot / March 7, 2025
Hello SJ,
In the 8 Generations before me there are 256 Ancestors. Of that 256 I can trace by DNA either Y DNA (male) or mtDNA (Female). Basically that means only 16 of my Ancestors out of the 256 are fairly certain. The rest is such a mix that we can only apply percentages to them, and even that is no guide to Ethnicity or Language. Maybe in the future we could arrive at a better picture of our Ancestors Migrations and Mixings.
Best regards
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Jit / March 7, 2025
So LS, the evidence of DNA goes on to a certain point only and then hit a brick wall? And finding any conclusive ‘root’ vanishes in to thin air? So why does anyone put any efforts to find out their ancestors? Even if one day science was developed to be able to go back trillions of years backward, wouldn’t the last DNA belong to an amoeba or cockroach or a fish as you say? So why bother at all??
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shankar / March 5, 2025
gnanasera looks very strong after eating wild boar meet. oooh look at those shoulders.
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SJ / March 5, 2025
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Your comment takes your standards close to those of the thero.
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