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Disturbing images of war crimes committed by the Sri Lankan army
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Disturbing Images Of war Crimes: Rape And Killings
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Donald Gnanakone / March 9, 2012
Taste of Paradise by the paradisians and what the British and Russian tourist experienced in Hambantota recently by the Sinhala civilians….
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Padraig Colman / March 9, 2012
How quickly some commenters move from discussion the genuine horrors of rape to the blanket accusation that all Sinhalese are responsible.
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Lak W / March 9, 2012
You will get your visa.
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Padraig Colman / March 9, 2012
I always have before.
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Sundar / November 5, 2013
You are all criminals.
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Observer / March 9, 2012
“I myself have helped dispose of bodies in this way, and we did make crude juvenile jokes. We were all just 19 or 20 years old, and you joke about everything if you don’t wanna go insane. Many of us had never even seen a real naked woman before, so obviously we commented, even though they were dead. It isn’t a polite tea party, but it isn’t a war crime either.” – David Blacker (ex-soldier, Sri Lankan Army)
http://groundviews.org/2011/06/21/the-story-of-the-hypocrite-in-a-tamil-man/
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Padraig Colman / March 9, 2012
“I’ve seen guys in Colombo hospitals and morgues doing autopsies on women who make similarly appalling jokes.”
I worked as a hospital porter at Gloucester Royal Infirmary in 1969. On occasions I assisted at autopsies. I frequently had to transport corpses to the morgue and to assist funeral directors collecting bodies from the hospital. Despite their respectable public image, the undertakers showed a disgusting lack of respect for the dead. Mortuary porters joked about taking cuts of meat home. There were some disgustingly crude and obscene ambulance men. Some doctors also were shocking. Perhaps it is not surprising that men who are paid by the state to kill might disrespect the dead.
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David Blacker / March 9, 2012
Exactly my point, Padraig. When I mentioned this on Groundviews, there was a storm of doctors-are-all-saints-so-shut-up voices that popped up.
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DAS / June 15, 2012
Noone other than doctors and medical students are allowed to be present at postmortem examinations.
Hence if anyone says he was present and heard comments by the medical examiner, it is a lie.
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Peter Casie Chetty / March 9, 2012
Did they urinate on the bodies? No then they cannot be as bad as the “civilised” Americans!
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Kalu Albert / March 9, 2012
insane Blacker
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PresiDunce Bean / March 9, 2012
I think that former soldiers like David BlockHead should also be rehabilitated just like former LTTErs before being let back into society.
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David Blacker / March 9, 2012
So that we can be dunces too?
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tangimoana / March 10, 2012
Being “just nineteen or twenty” is no excuse. Never having seen a naked body is no excuse. You joined the army voluntarily, to make some money. You knew it would not be a “tea party.” Was it a “tea party” for that dead, naked and mutilated girl? Are you proud of what you did? Do you think you are some kind of hero?
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David Blacker / March 11, 2012
I did not join the Army to make money :D I have the education and the intelligence to make a career anywhere I choose; and since leaving the Army I have had a very successful career. My comment wasn’t to seek anyone’s pity, but to explain both the situation and the people involved. Have I said it was a tea party for the dead? But the Tigers also knew what they were getting into, and took their chances. No, I do not consider myself a hero, although I did serve alongside many heroes. Yes, I am proud of my service, and would willingly serve again if called upon.
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Sundar / November 5, 2013
There you go justifying again. Criminal mentality never goes away does it [Edited out]
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padraigcolman / March 9, 2012
These are indeed shocking pictures. Where did they come from? Colombo Telegraph does not explain except in the tags.
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Peter Casie Chetty / March 9, 2012
Colombo telegraph is an LTTE messenger. Was that not obvious? They are trying to stir up the cess pit. There is no evidence that the dead persons are Tamils. There is no more any evidence that they were “done in” by the Sri Lankan security Forces. The Tamil Forums have used the “evidence” of dead by sending their photographers to scenes of LTTE atroicites and then pretending the corpses were those of Tamil civilians; whereas in fact they were Sinhalese. Reuter journalists were informed about that when the Gonagala Amparai massacre of 58 villagers who broadcast on Tamil net as if they were Tamils murdered by the Army. Three of the bodies were of 18 moth old babies. The villagers were warned to inform the Chief priest who would then inform the Police about any “visitors”. You cannot trust a group of terrorists can you? Ask the US and UK governments because everyone who looks like a terrorist is “questioned”. Gnanakoon better not show his face in Sri Lanka.
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Vasu / March 9, 2012
I´ve never seen such a corrupted demoralized person like you, you chetties change your position along the wind direction, but sinhalese, like bodinayake and DJ ( I hope they are ) belong to the population who mwere killed in the same manner by SLA. Try to urinate on your monitor while seeing these images, you need a therapy
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Sundar / November 5, 2013
they came from you criminal
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David Blacker / March 9, 2012
The tag to the pictures says PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE OF SEXUAL ABUSE OF (sic) SL ARMY. Can CT explain what that evidence is; or are you suggesting that nudity is sufficient proof?
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keheliya / March 9, 2012
“I myself have helped dispose of bodies in this way, and we did make crude juvenile jokes. We were all just 19 or 20 years old, and you joke about everything if you don’t wanna go insane. Many of us had never even seen a real naked woman before, so obviously we commented, even though they were dead. It isn’t a polite tea party, but it isn’t a war crime either.” – David Blacker (ex-soldier, Sri Lankan Army)
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David Blacker / March 9, 2012
Kohedha yanne? Malley pol.
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Ken / March 9, 2012
Srilankan Buddhism allows the Sinhalese to harm the Tamils (not other creatures) in the following way
1. Loot
2. Kill
3. Rape
4. Torture
5. Detain
6.Abduction
WITH THE HELP OF STATES (REWARDED WITH PROMOTIONS) eg: Shavendra Silva
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chamath dumitha / March 9, 2012
hey study the Buddhism first then talk. u such an idiot. LTTE used to send live human bombs with such ways even with corpses. can a shot clearly say that this is from SL ARMY. so wat will say about LTTE. they just played with guns……………very funny haaaa………….wat do you know wat happend in the sri lanka. y dnt u talked about .gadaffi.bin-laden. they also killed. is it a right thing……………………hey u is this your justice. terrorists r terrorists. dont play with them……………..colombo telegraph i know that ur a ltte supporter. its a shame about u. go and visit sri lanka then say the truth. dotn operate from the out side. yur kids will be feel very sad wbout some day. dont distribute fake. be a man with a spine. talk about US war crimes/isreal war crimes……..dont depend on dollers. find your supper your own way. dont sell your spirit for the dinner. don’t insult to the noble truth. im a proud buddhist. and im a proud Sl ARMY member………………….
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No justice / February 19, 2013
Chamath dumitha,Let us say that the photographs connected with the LTTE were fabricated by the Tamil Diaspora, what about the information that came out after the 1989 massacre of the JVP. Do you think that the articles about torture of the JVPers in two Sinhala Newspapers, one of which was the Lankadeepa were false.Refere to the interview Mick Moore had with either DIG Udugampola or with SSP Gunasinghe, where one of them said that the success rate at Matara was 20%.They clarified that thus” if 100 boys/girls are arrested, they found only 20 boys/girls guilty, those 20 are bumped off. It does not stop there, they also bumped off the innocent 80 also because, they had been tortured so badly, these children could not be released as the injuries tell a tale themselves.Did they kill 25,000 youth in the South overnight, just to reduce the possibility of the JVP spreading?
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Sundar / November 5, 2013
Learn English properly before spitting your shit here
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Renuka Siriwardena. / March 9, 2012
its so very very sad that most human beings forget that they are doing this to their own fellow beings
I don’t have words to speak for these horrendus crimes committed against girls and women
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keonavann / March 11, 2012
It isn’t a war crime? Just you are a soldier you raped and killed those young ladies? How do you feel if it happens among your sibling or relative?
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David Blacker / March 12, 2012
Rape is a crime. There is no evidence of rape in the pictures. Try and stay focused on what’s being discussed.
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sach / March 9, 2012
david,
dont you think that nobody can deny that these women were possibly raped when looking at the pictures. i know this doesnt count as a war crime but gov can find the responsible soldiers and punish them.
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David Blacker / March 10, 2012
How do you deduce that they were raped because they were stripped? Were the male corpses also raped? They too are naked. Was Prabha also raped? Bodies from both sides are routinely stripped to search for weapons, explosives, and documents. The same is done to POWs. What do you mean by “this doesn’t count as a war crime”?
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sach / March 11, 2012
i said these pics cant be produced as evidence of a war crime as rape (if it is the case) considering they could be isolated incidents and not a policy. i am not much knowledgeable on laws regarding war crimes so i might be wrong here.
i hope you re right and they re not raped.
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Shan Shin / March 12, 2012
So, David Blacker, how do you rationalize these women being blindfolded and hands-tied? Don’t these photos strongly confirms that they are executed in a close-range? And POSSIBLY they were raped before being executed?
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David Blacker / March 13, 2012
I have already explained that the blindfolds and restraints indicate execution. Can you explain how you rationalize blindfolds and restraints to indicate rape? Yes, it is possible that they were raped; it is also possible that they were not; which is my point: there is NO evidence of rape, nor any sign in the pictures of rape. Why is this so difficult to grasp?
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Bodinayaka / March 9, 2012
who would rape ugly women . yak
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Padraig Colman / March 9, 2012
Bodinayaka- rape is not a subject for humour.
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rathnayake / March 9, 2012
Exactly Padraig. Thank you! I seriously threw-up my entire afternoon tea, as I sat down with my iPad and opened it the thingy, after having my tea a little while ago…. and I surely cannot have any dinner tonight…. It’s stuck in my mind like hell…..
Heard those days that Piripaharan’s daughter too was severely tortured prior to her being killed…. Must have been a similar scene or even worse… :(
Sick bastards, no matter who commits them…..
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David Blacker / March 9, 2012
Again, where is the proof of rape? Were the naked male Tigers raped too? Were the naked Army soldiers displayed by the Tigers raped too?
DBS Jeyaraj says that VP’s daughter was killed by artillery fire.
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DG US / March 9, 2012
That is what the DOJ and State Dept. Officials said, and more. Disgusting is one of the words used… Issaipriya was a beautiful girl and was everyone’s favorite in the Vanni…. Most of the photos came from the JVP members of the Army. Some important people of Vanni’s also appeared accidentally. These fellows did not know the value of the photos and sold it cheap.. Some refused to accept any money FYI, Blessed their hearts… Karma…
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Chandra Goonewardene / March 11, 2012
Thank you Padraig. A sane voice in this to-ing and fro-ing of disgusting comments..
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Padraig Colman / March 11, 2012
Thank you Chandra. I despair!
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laugh / March 9, 2012
Laugh,
and the world laughs with you.
Weep,
and you weep alone.
Oh, do not weep
for her!
nameless
abandoned
and naked
an orphan
like the rest of us
one other violation
in the history of pillage
one other twisted body
shredded by a twisted soul
of a unitary state
Do not feel
dismay
or disgust
But laugh.
laugh at the world
which talks of reconciliation
with the men who did this
of peace,
when her broken body
calls for retribution.
laugh at the foot
of the Sinhala corpse
which tramples
Tamil life
laugh at what those
who hold the memory
of this image,
those like you,
will do
to the assassins of her body
and to those who were
complicit through silence.
laugh at the cackling language
of a hundred hounds
preying on a single
tiger cub
laugh at death which lives
and life which dies
Laugh!
laugh, for by reducing
us to animals
they have negated
their own humanity.
Laugh, for you will herald
the hour when
Sinhala mothers will
curse the day
they gave birth
to such men.
Laugh, because by being monsters
they have given us
the option of becoming
better monsters.
But laugh at yourself,
if she cannot be avenged
and the world will laugh
with you.
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dr / March 9, 2012
Bodinayake;How UGLY are you? Look on the mirror you will see your ugly pig face.. I will spit on your ugly face if you’re not careful.
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Peter Casie Chetty / March 9, 2012
Buddhism allows self defence. the rest of it are crimes you have imagined happened. Tamils have had the rioght to live among the Sinhalese and still do. If you say that all these crimes were committed whuy then are there so many Tamil people living in the South. They have infested my home town Kotahena and live more peacefully there than they do in any part of the “Tamil Homeland” as you like to call it.
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Kotahene ari / March 9, 2012
So Chetty, you are from Kotahena, we know it coz you are telling it all the time. even we know you jumped neighbour Goat farm and have that dirty thing, we know we know. so you are not a person with sympathy. you can open your ugly moth matter of factly . we know we know about “Patti Eluva” If one can rape a goat what else we can expect form a person like that. Do you know about that “patti Eluva” ??
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seruvila senarath / March 9, 2012
Real Buddhists never do inhumane things. WE DO NOT APPROVE THIS.You are mistaken, Buddhism is Buddhism, Not Indian, Not srilakan or Tamil, it is Universal Philosophy.It is For You. Me, And Everybody.
Don’t Take Buddhism into this. True Sinhalese Also Not Approve These Deeds. Crime Is Crime,Those who Did it will not escape from there sins.Sinhalese or Tamils,or Politicckas.
There is no white wash, May be S L ARMY Also Done this, Tit For Tat. Do Not Forget innocent Sinhalese,Tamil civilian suffered more than these in Your BLOODY INDIAN INNOVATED, NEVER FULL FILLING BLOODY DREEM EELAM WAR.
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janaka / March 11, 2012
How many people have heard complaints from goats being raped or sodomised by disturbed uneducated muslim men?
Men who stare at goats and donkeys is what Afghans and Pakis do because they cannot see the faces of female muslim breeding sows.
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Sundar / November 5, 2013
Hahha total bullshit. Have you ever heard of Myanamar’s Bin Laden?
‘Burmese bin Laden’ — The face of Buddhist terror – Time Magazine
A Buddhist monk Wirathu calling himself Burmese bin Laden was recently labeled on the cover of Time magazine as the Face of Buddhist Terror. He is the Buddhist monk
Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/354198#ixzz2jkNWOUt5
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seruvila senarath / March 9, 2012
REMOVE YOUR BODI PEACE FROM YOUR NAME, THAT IS INSULT TO BUDDHISM, AND OUR SL ARMY
{ LUCKILY IT IS BODI NOT BOHODI }.
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keonavann / March 11, 2012
If it wasn’t a rape case do you thing these girl happy to take of her cloth out before they die? I don’t think you don’t have enough brain to think before you post this comment.
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Bodinayaka / March 9, 2012
okay , okay . sorry. Next time we will station “comfort women” to our Army when fighting terrorists. Sooreee
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nelum m / March 9, 2012
an ugly idiot
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DG US / March 9, 2012
Hey ugly man; issaipriya is like the Premanthi Manempri from Kataragama in 1971 who was raped and killed. (Buried alive by Col. Alfi Wijesuriya of Wellawatte.).Manempri was the Beauty Queen….from Kataragama.. in 1971..
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Silva / March 9, 2012
This is definitely not the work of SL Army because Rajapakshas gave each and every soldier in the war front a copy of Human Rights Charter and they went to the battle field holding that document in their hands! Surely this must be the work of American soldiers or other foreign combatants who are trying to pass the culpability to our innocent soldiers or defame our blemishless Rajapakshas who saved our country! O man, this is a foreign conspiracy! We must all scarify our lives to save Rajapakshas and provide them with every opportunity to breed more and more Rajapakshas who would ultimately make this country “Rajapuked-land”!
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Padraig Colman / March 9, 2012
Whose naked foot is that?
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Kalu Albert / March 9, 2012
You can go with Dr, Robert’s stupid argument.
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Padraig Colman / March 9, 2012
I am not going with anyone’s argument, stupid or not. I’m just asking why there is a naked foot on the body.
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Padraig Colman / March 9, 2012
Actually, it was a Tamil, Dr Noel Nadesan, who made the point that SLA soldiers would not be wearing Bata slippers. I was one of a couple of people who said that I did not find that a convincing argument. I also pointed out that in one of the uncropped photos in that series, a pair army type boots WERE clearly visible. So be careful who you call stupid, Kalu.
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David Blacker / March 9, 2012
It looks like the foot of another corpse lying alongside.
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Rohan / March 17, 2012
Yeah…. you didn’t come up with an argument that there were people with rubber slippers, so thay cannot be soldiers of the Sri Lankan holy army
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Peter Casie Chetty / March 9, 2012
You are not Silva, Silva! You are Siva!
Just what we would expect. What have you got to say about the 138 Muslims killed in the Katankudi Mosque Murders? Karuna? No way. That is why he “abdicated” because Prabakaran had not informed him of the plan to murder those men and boys while they were praying. Karuna was wanted for these murders but he explained to Hisbulla the true story and the result is that Sri Lankan forces won the war and killed all the terrorists!
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Kalu Albert / March 9, 2012
Ask brothers!
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srilal / March 9, 2012
Hang on folks, evidences are on the way, on 14 th of March at 10.55 pm , CH4 documentary movie # 2 is coming out , Wimal Weerawansa ( English )will go flat out to discredit the movie. Wait and see the drama!
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David Blacker / March 9, 2012
But CH4 claims that their original film has the evidence. So why are we waiting? Are you now saying that there is no evidence in the first film?
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srilal / March 9, 2012
no , there are enough prima facie evidences’ in ch4 and earlier programs( I know neither you nor your pay masters will take any of those as evidences ) , in this latest one , apparently there are evidences (mobile conversation ) who gave the orders to do the unthinkable , so i guess you will have your plate full from 14 th on words to defend & safeguard your human right violators.
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David Blacker / March 9, 2012
Why is it that you cannot make a single attempt to defend your silly claims without qualifying it with a personal or ad hominem attack? is it because you too are aware that you must prop up your argument?
Can you point out the prima facie evidence in the Ch4 film please?
On future revelations, didn’t you predict this before the second Ch4 film, from which no such evidence emerged?
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srilal / March 9, 2012
Remember (col) Ramesh , how he was interrogated by the SL army ? how come he ended up being dead while he was in SL government custody? I just give you one simple example,( in fact there are enough , if you go through the archives )
Consider this, one is having a debate with wimal weerawansa , he will come up with all the bells & whistles and sopsticated big Sinhala words in order to impress others and same time insult the opponent to humiliate in a very harsh manner , finally pretends that he won the debate , but what is the ground reality , there is no much substance in any of his arguments, in reality he is a big time con artist , who has sold his sole for money and power ,I’m afraid I do not see any difference between you and weerewansa , Blacker.
That is why I told you earlier, I can’t afford to lose my precious time on you!.
ps. get ready to represent at MARGA my friend.
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David Blacker / March 9, 2012
You say you haven’t precious time to waste, and yet you’re here basically saying nothing useful but still commenting. Isn’t it the reality that in fact you haven’t an argument and prefer to abuse and insult people (preferably those who are not there) until someone like me asks you to prove your accusations. Then you get very high and mighty and accuse me of being in the government pay because you really have nothing to back your words up.
Do you even understand WHAT Sri Lanka is being accused of? Clearly you don’t; because if you did you wouldn’t have brought up Col Ramesh. The UN isn’t interested in whether some POWs were shot, some prisoners were tortured, some women were raped, or some civilians were killed. These things happened in SL and in every war that is happening and has happened. They are interested in crimes against humanity which are what people are tried for at the ICC in the Hague — genocide, crimes of policy, or crimes that by their nature prove a policy. There isn’t any evidence of this in the Darusman Report or the Ch4 film or anywhere else.
So instead of trying to point at Weerawansa like superstitious people point at the devil, first understand what is being discussed here to avoid looking like an ignorant child. You accuse me of attempting to humiliate you, yet every one of your comments to me is peppered with unsubstantiated accusations that you make to cover the fact that you cannot stand up to me one-on-one in a debate on the actual subject.
Like I have told the Dunce, Heshan, and so many of you, you are in fact hindering any chance of real criminals being brought to justice because you are going after things that did not happen; so you rely on rumour, lies, half-truths to prove something; but you can’t. SL isn’t a signatory to the ICC and cannot be touched except by direct UNSC directive and that just will not happen. You are naive to the reality of international diplomacy and somehow think that it will take place like a tele drama. It will not, I assure you.
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srilal / March 9, 2012
Thank you Blacker for that wonderful informative lecture, I’m now very much enlighten with your valued information which I did not before, you know why I did not know those , because I was
1) High school drop out ( could not get through O/L )
2) Joined the Army (as a non commissioned officer ) in my late teens as I had no any other option
3) Committed war crimes and publically declared in an open forum(now try my level best to ridicule whoever mentioned it )
4) Agreed to defend the Junta regime in all the blogs as well as any where any time where ever possible for few thousands Rupees.
5) Pretend to be a defense analyst (pseudo )
So you see Blacker I could not possibly have a one on one debate with a hot shot like you , as I’m bit thick, so please don’t blame me I’m a born looser, got it ?
Going back to your query, you asked me to give a prima facie evidence, I gave you one which came to my mind, now you change the whole thing and going on giving me a lecture about the international diplomacy, you are the last person I’m gonna listen if I wanted to know any thing about war/war crimes/international diplomacy or any thing for that matter, so lets get this straight, do not ever attempt to educate me, if I do not know
any thing , there is a magic box called Google , I can find it myself .
“Like I have told the Dunce, Heshan, and so many of you, you are in fact hindering any chance of real criminals being brought to justice because you are going after things that did not happen”
Oh really, the whole world knows who the real criminals are , but you ??? don’t change the tone now , remember it was world’s biggest humanitarian operation with zero civilian casualty , our soldiers fought the war with the humanitarian charter in one hand BS , why do you talk about real criminal now , there can’t be any,, according to one of your bosse’s statement, isn’t it Blacker , so try to stick to the original !
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David Blacker / March 10, 2012
So the whole world knows, but no one is doing anything? Lol, nice logic.
In spite of your attempts to rewrite my life history, thank you for explaining your aversion to education. That was abundantly clear from your original comment :D I have never claimed to be anything other than a Sri Lankan and a former soldier; labels such as “defence analyst” are things that others have said, and if you disagree, please take it up with them.
I explained to you why the example you brought up is irrelevant to the debate. If you prefer to pretend it is, we can discuss it on that basis, and we will return to this same spot where you look like an idiot. I was just hoping to save you some time, which you claim is precious, in spite of the fact that you return regularly to claim that you will never talk to me again (my heart breaks). If you believe in the Orwellian notion that ignorance is power, and wish to arguefrom that perspective, go for it. I believe it is better to understand the issue before opening one’s mouth and making it clear you don’t. But that’s just me.
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jamie robertson / March 9, 2012
There are plenty of decent sri lankan military men who would come forward with evidence to the UN if asked and given safe passage.
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Peter Casie Chetty / March 9, 2012
You don’t join the military to kiss your enemy. Ask any soldier. he who carrioed a gun for the defence of his country and his people has the right to kill the enemy. Every Sri Lanka soldier is a decent man. Yesterday six British soldiers were killed by a roadside bomb. The Prime Minister said that the bomb was a cowardly weapon used and we could therefore infer that the people the GTF and “Silva”, “Srilal”, Gnanakoom support are cowards therefore they are cowards by association and when crimes have been committed those who justify the criems of others are guilty by association. Find good lawyers you three jokers!
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seruvila senarath / March 9, 2012
” Every Sri Lanka soldier is a decent man” Don’t Talk BXXL SXXt MAN.
Totally We do Not Agree With You, I am A TRUE SINHELA BUDDHIST, From East Of Sri Lanka,and was In The SL ARMY,Eng Regt.
Not Like You, Better FIRST TALK TO YOUR HEART.
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Padraig Colman / March 11, 2012
Why hasn’t that happened?
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Chaminda Tilakumara / March 11, 2012
Do you wanna make the same offer to the US military personnel? We all have seen what happened to the US soldier who leaked US war crimes to wikileaks.
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Max Silva / March 9, 2012
CT,as law abiding citizens(where ever you may be) you must produce these photographs to relevant authorities.If you don’t have confidence in the Srilankan judiciary,you may produce them somewhere else.But remember one thing,you must provide substantiated evidence.After all who knows these can be LTTE terror victims.Now that the barbaric Tamil Tiger terrorists are playing god,the burden of proving the authenticity of these photographs is yours.To cover up their barbaric activities the Tamil terrorists are on a mission of accusing Srilanka with all sorts of crime.If CT wants to maintain high standards,you must immediately vow to the authenticity of these photographs right now on your website.After that even we can help you to bring the culprits to book.Remember you have to provide water tight evidence.If you can’t provide proof,then you might as well go on the line of TamilNet.Recently you removed one of my replies,regarding a comment i made on the lily white Swedish judges.Your claim was that i hadn’t provided substantiated evidence.Now the ball is in your court.CT,for starters you must immediately vow that these photographs are genuine.Can you do that?.After that we can proceed.
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dr / March 9, 2012
Max Silva is talking nonsence. Ask ch4 for your proof dumbooooooooooooo.
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Peter Casie Chetty / March 9, 2012
If you have the guts why don’t you put your whole name down? Hiding behind a “joke name” [edited out]
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Max Silva / March 9, 2012
Jamie, can you produce Bradley Manning to the UN,with guaranteed safe passage?Manning has lots of war crimes evidence against the US.After all the US is supposed to be the guardian of human rights.
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Peter Casie Chetty / March 9, 2012
Well said max. Why are they accusing him of endangering the lioves of US citizens? because they have secrets they want to keep. Dick Cheney forced the CIA Tennent to say that WMD were found in Iraq. What a bunch of bastards! Now what is the death count because of this one lie?
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Max Silva / March 9, 2012
CT,i logged on to TTNnews.com.Everything is in Tamil.May be they cater only to Tamils.By looking at other pictures,there’s no doubt that this is an arm of the Tamil terrorists.Would you vouch that the TNNnews has no connection with the Tamil terrorists?CT,are you also part of the Tamil terrorist outfit?If not why don’t you publish photographs on Tamil terrorism victims?You can obtain them from the SL defence ministry website.If it’s OK to quote Tamil terrorist websites,i don’t see anything wrong in quoting SL defence ministry website.After all you are supposed to be INDEPENDENT!
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Observer / March 9, 2012
Here is a live video of Sri Lankan soldiers abusing LTTE corpses:
http://www.ptsrilanka.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=84&catid=26&Itemid=15
Note 0:39 when he casually kicks the dead man’s head. Wow! Just wow!
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David Blacker / March 9, 2012
As I said before, it’s not a tea party; but it’s not a war crime. Here’s an actual war crime, just so you know the difference: http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~dezyl22a/classweb/srilankaandterrorism/images/aranthalawa.jpg
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Peter Casie Chetty / March 9, 2012
Well said David
People like Gnanakoone should be hauled before a War Crimes Court for supporting Terrorism and made to pay for all the crimes committed by his Lord and Master Prabakaran. This type of guttersnipe stand to gain because he wioll probably be named President of Elaam if they ever get their pipe dream. I have now found this man to be an obnoxious source and a danger to the Tamil people. He hides in a lair away from all harm and instigates a criminal in robes to play his mouth piece. Sri Lanka will never be before a War Crimes Tribunal beacause there is no proof that the Sri Lankan army and not the LTTE murdered the civilians. English Court cases can be cited where a man used his girl friend as a shield and had her shot and killed by the Police who had gone there to arrest the man. He was given a life sentence for murder. Gnanakoon will have to defend himself if push came to shove. He denied that he was supporting the LTTE and claimed that he was interested in the Tamil people. I visted the Vanni and spoke to the LTTE saw the strife the suffering and the hunger that the people there uwere undergoing. I wanted there to be peace but the LTTE spurred on by people like Gnankoon urged the LTTE to fight on. It resulted in all those deatha. He and his rogue in robes are to blame.
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Sundar / November 5, 2013
Chetty, remove the rope around your tummy buddy and eat more of the same shit you [Edited out]
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Collonges la Rouge / March 9, 2012
Looks like war crimes to me. One of the women in the above photos has her hands tied, which indicates she was executed while unarmed. The close range head wound (same woman) also suggests execution. Many of the wounds on the victims look like torture marks, e.g. they are cut marks, which can easily be distinguished from bullet wounds. Extensive cut marks indicate prolonged torture. Torture + rape + execution of unarmed prisoners are all war crimes, since they violate the Geneva Conventions, which SL is a signatory to.
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David Blacker / March 10, 2012
La Rouge, there is no doubt that executions (and they look executed) are war crimes. What we are discussing is rape. You point to some cuts as signs of torture, yet I see n signs of any systematic cutting, burning, etc. Those scratches could very well have been simply a result of fighting. Nevertheless, you conclude a judgement of rape based on execution + torture. Can you explain this conclusion?
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Lalith / March 9, 2012
I suppose when you are recovering from the adrenalin rush of battle, knowing you survived and have to clear the dead bodies of the enemy who, hours or minutes ago were trying their very best trying to kill you, you will kiss and cuddle them? Next time you are in that situation, tell us all how it went, OK? :)
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Peter Casie Chetty / March 9, 2012
Put your damned name on in full you coward.
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kris / November 8, 2013
Did LTTE respect to the bodies of dead solders ?
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Observer / March 9, 2012
And here is another, much more graphic video, part of which was depicted in the second CH4 tape, if I’m not mistaken: http://www.ptsrilanka.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=83&catid=26&Itemid=15. At the end of this video, the soldiers are unsure whether or not to rape the corpse, which suggests yet another level of barbarism. Now, perhaps GOSL apologist Padraig Colman wishes to claim that the morticians in the UK were also having intercourse with the corpses? In fact, I did not feel inclined to post the link at all, except to draw attention to one of Blacker’s comments regarding the mistreatment of the dead: “It isn’t a polite tea party, but it isn’t a war crime either.” That is nothing more than a cheap attempt to rationalize behavior which clearly goes beyond the boundaries of any civilized discourse.
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Padraig Colman / March 9, 2012
This is what “GOSL apologist Padraig Colman” (who has never been paid one rupee by GOSL) actually wrote about the subject of rape.
“Rape is a terrible crime. Rape as a systematic policy and weapon of war is even more appalling. The Darusman report cites pictures of naked LTTE female cadres as evidence that they “may have been raped or sexually assaulted”. Hillary Clinton made a similar charge against the Sri Lankan armed forces some time ago but withdrew it. If rapes did take place they should be investigated and the culprits severely punished. Neither the Channel 4 programme nor the Darusman report supplies evidence of individual crimes and certainly no evidence that rape was government policy. The language used in the report is strangely vague.”
I quoted Tisaranee Gunasekere from in the Sunday Leader:
“The issue is not whether the victims were innocent or not; the issue is whether some Lankan soldiers engaged in torture, abuse and murder. If they did, as Channel 4 alleges and its searing footage convincingly indicates, such acts are moral outrages which shame every one of us; they also violate both national and international law and thus merit immediate and credible investigation…Though there are allegations of rape and torture, these are being made not against a majority of the soldiers but against a very small minority. Therefore, carrying out a credible investigation of these charges is important not only in the name of justice but also to save the honour of the Lankan army. A few murderous sociopaths should not be allowed to dishonour an entire force.”
“A point repeatedly made by the UTHR is that most Lankan soldiers treated the fleeing civilian Tamils with kindness. Though there are allegations of rape and torture, these are being made not against a majority of the soldiers but against a very small minority. Therefore, carrying out a credible investigation of these charges is important not only in the name of justice but also to save the honour of the Lankan army. A few murderous sociopaths should not be allowed to dishonour an entire force.”
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Peter Casie Chetty / March 9, 2012
That woman should be locked up in amental asylum. Only the Sunday Leader can employ paranoid schitzophrenics because the pay peanuts for crap.
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Padraig Colman / March 10, 2012
@ Peter Casie Chetty.
“That woman should be locked up in a mental asylum. Only the Sunday Leader can employ paranoid schizophrenics because the pay peanuts for crap.”
I quoted her to show that a trenchant critic of the government had written something supportive of the Sri Lankan Army.
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Chandra Goonewardene / March 11, 2012
@ Padriag, please do not try to explain yourself to idiots like this Casie Chetty. He cannot understand the point of an argument. It is morons like these who blacken even the remaining name of the country
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Sundar / November 5, 2013
Your country still have name?. Hahha go on. Carry on….
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Padraig Colman / March 9, 2012
“Now, perhaps GOSL apologist Padraig Colman wishes to claim that the morticians in the UK were also having intercourse with the corpses?”
No he would not.
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Observer / March 10, 2012
Then your comparison of morticians with soldiers is absurd. Anyone with more than two brain cells can infer that the soldiers did much more than make a joke about a body. Do you not see the cameras being held out in the numerous photos?
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David Blacker / March 10, 2012
It is debatable whether those soldiers are talking about raping the corpses. The subtitles do not translate the voices. Even if they were discussing that, we don’t know whether they were serious, and there is no evidence of them carrying out any such rape. That is purely speculative. The comparison to morticians was in the context of jokes being told, though I understand rape of corpses in SL morgues is not uncommon.
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Padraig Colman / March 11, 2012
@ Observer
I can’t cope with this multiple personality disorder so I will continue to call him Nihal.
Nihal is displaying another facet of his bizarre style of argumentation.
Only the other day, he was getting all sensitive about me making “ad hominem” attacks on one of his heroes, Paul Johnson. Yet he persistently makes crude sexual gibes about my father, a good man who is a stranger to him, has never done him any harm and who died 40 years ago. The only basis for his attacks on my father are that my father was my father and was also Irish and Catholic. This ugly racism is also apparent in his attacks on Sinhalese Buddhists.
Nihal called me a hypocrite because I have an Irish passport and some Irish supported the Germans in two world wars. He holds me accountable for the actions taken by strangers to me before I was born. At the same time as being responsible for all crimes perpetrated by Irishmen throughout history I am also, according to him, a Sinhala Buddhist chauvinist.
He is not unique among bloggers in his inability to differentiate between explanation and justification. My comment about morticians I have known was a specific response to something David Blacker had written. My point was that people who deal with death every day sometimes develop coping strategies which strike other people as crude and insensitive. I was not saying that it was a good thing or that I excused them.
Another common trait among bloggers is to feel that people are ganging up on them. Because I, Peter Casie Chetty, Mango, David Blacker and Michael Roberts often disagree with Nihal does not mean we are in a gang or that we agree with each other about everything. The common denominator is that we often find Nihal’s statements ludicrous.
Nihal’s paranoia leads him to use words like “hidden agenda”, “sinister agenda” “ulterior motives” and to suggest that anyone who disagrees with him is being paid large sums of money by the government.
Let me repeat in simple terms for Nihal what my position really is. I was one of the first to comment on this thread and I said that the pictures were shocking. Rape is a terrible crime. It disgusts and angers me when men treat rape as a subject for juvenile humour. I do NOT believe that it is OK for 19 or 20 year olds to disrespect the dead (or the living).
Rape as a systematic policy and weapon of war is even more appalling.
The pictures do not look like fakes to me. The disarray of the clothing suggests strongly that the women had been sexually abused.
I agree with Tisaranee Gunasekera: “allegations of rape and torture, …are being made not against a majority of the soldiers but against a very small minority. Therefore, carrying out a credible investigation of these charges is important not only in the name of justice but also to save the honour of the Lankan army. A few murderous sociopaths should not be allowed to dishonour an entire force.”
Similarly, if SLA soldiers were guilty of these crimes that is no reason to condemn the entire Sinhala Buddhist majority.
I agree with A Rivindra: “ It is quite surprising that with most of the personnel’s faces clearly visible in the videos, that the GOSL had still not made a genuine attempt to identify them.” I also agree with him that the future is hopeless if we continue forever to fight the battles of the past. “We need to move on with respect and equality for all.”
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David Blacker / March 12, 2012
Padraig, the disarray of the clothes do not necessarily indicate rape, and I would say it even precludes it. Unless the suggestion is that the women were raped where they lie and then shot (an unlikely event), the underwear positions indicate that the disarrangement of the clothes happened post-mortem (it would be impossible for a prisoner to walk with underwear around their knees). The most likely scenario is that the women were killed in combat and then stripped for searching, or that they were executed and then stripped for photos.
If the logic is that photography of naked women indicates a propensity to have first raped them, why is there NOT A SINGLE PHOTOGRAPH of a living and naked female prisoner, or of one being raped, the way there are of US prisoners being raped and sexually abused? Surely, if there are so many pix of naked corpses that suggest rape there must be at least one of a living victim or of the crime being perpetrated?
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Padraig Colman / March 12, 2012
I hear what you are saying.
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Observer / March 12, 2012
@ P. Colman,
It’s quite evident that you’ve gone to great lengths to defend Sinhalese chauvinism. Exhibit A: your blog. There you have an article on the CH4 tape, with a caption on the top, within the word FAKE inscribed in large capital letters. When I questioned you about the location of this caption, you replied that you had merely borrowed it, which is a rather lame excuse.
Now, regarding morticians, one cannot compare them to soldiers, period. There is no excuse for soldiers to abuse bodies, coping strategy or otherwise. Furthermore, it’s quite easy to see that if a soldier is so eager to make jokes about bruised up wounded naked corpses, then he is likely to engage in a variety of other abnormal behaviors. In the case of the Sri Lankan Army, we have this list:
1. Making jokes about corpses
2. Having intercourse with corpse
3. Mutilating corpse
4. Taking pictures of various parts of corpse with cell phone
All of these things fit together; if one occurred, then chances are high that the other 3 occurred. That is why I said there is no comparison to a mortician.
And no, I did not use the photos to generalize about Sinhala-Buddhism; that is your imagination at work.
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Padraig Colman / March 13, 2012
@ Observer/Nihal/Heshan
“It’s quite evident that you’ve gone to great lengths to defend Sinhalese chauvinism.”
You have repeated this bizarre canard many times. I have persistently asked you to explain why I would do that. When I point out that this would be strange behaviour for a foreigner brought up as an Irish Catholic you revert to racist remarks about the Irish and insults to my dead father. Sometimes you make dark references to “ulterior motives”, hidden agendas” and “sinister agendas with suggestions that I am being paid to defend GOSL. I have repeatedly assured you that I am not being paid by GOSL.
I have directed to you to an article in which I discuss the bad effects of mixing Buddhism with politics. Only today, I received a comment criticising me for being too favourable to Tamils.
“a rather lame excuse”. Once again you are twisting my words. It was not an excuse, lame or otherwise. You brought up (more than once) the fact that I used a picture with the word “Fake” on it. You said that no responsible editor would use such a picture. My response was that the editor of the Sunday Leader had used it and I took it from the Sunday Leader.
“Now, regarding morticians, one cannot compare them to soldiers, period. There is no excuse for soldiers to abuse bodies, coping strategy or otherwise.” How many times have I tried to explain to you the difference between EXPLANATION and JUSTIFICATION? I despair of you ever understanding.
“There is no excuse for soldiers to abuse bodies”. I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
“And no, I did not use the photos to generalize about Sinhala-Buddhism; that is your imagination at work.”
You have generalised about Sinhala-Buddhism tirelessly over many threads. To mention that fact does not make me a Sinhala-Buddhist chauvinist.
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David Blacker / March 13, 2012
“Now, regarding morticians, one cannot compare them to soldiers, period. There is no excuse for soldiers to abuse bodies”
So it’s OK for morticians to abuse bodies? I see, thanks for clarifying that, Unterklokommandant Heshan/Nihal/Observer.
“Furthermore, it’s quite easy to see that if a soldier is so eager to make jokes about bruised up wounded naked corpses, then he is likely to engage in a variety of other abnormal behaviors”
It is easy only if one is someone wont to jump to conclusions such as claiming “women who marry more than thrice are whores” (Observer/Heshan/Nihal’s words)
“1. Making jokes about corpses 2. Having intercourse with corpse 3. Mutilating corpse 4. Taking pictures of various parts of corpse with cell phone”
Regardless of the point form your fantasies take, there is no evidence of points 2 and 3 :D
“All of these things fit together; if one occurred, then chances are high that the other 3 occurred. That is why I said there is no comparison to a mortician.”
Given your extensive knowledge of having sex with corpses, could you explain how the above four points differentiates soldiers from morticians in the context of possible abuse of corpses?
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Max Silva / March 9, 2012
Tamil Tigers slaughtered innocent civilians including pregnant mothers.These butchers at that time didn’t care a damn about human rights.After their resounding defeat at Nandikadal,now the leftover terrorists have become human rights activists.The tiger butchers didn’t spare old men, women and children who were worshiping at Srimaha Bodhi.The blood thirsty monsters are now talking of human rights.Good.At least the GOSL have been able to convince these monsters that there is something called human rights.If you need more convincing on human rights,be prepared for the second round of Nandikadal.Observer pl take note.By the way how tasty is it licking the boots of American human rights god fathers?Lick lick lick on all fours.The great Dravidians turned drug traffickers,credit card fraudsters and pimps!
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Lalith / March 9, 2012
So, the pro LTTE Tamil Diaspora, along with random apologists are recycling old pictures? This is a real koththu roti moment. Take whatever was left from the last meal, cut some new onions, make some noise, create some smoke, serve with some sauce…. :)
What a pathetic bunch of losers you guys are. Where were your bleeding hearts when the LTTE was running wild in Sri Lanka, killing unarmed civilians in buses, offices, trains and villages? where are the POWS they held?
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Ramona.David / March 9, 2012
Who can trust terrorists?
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kamani w / March 9, 2012
OMG! i feel sick. we will all hv to pay for this.
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ekadipathi / March 9, 2012
“committed by the Sri Lankan army” ??? is this article posted by a woman who got rape in this picture??? :D
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sach / March 9, 2012
isnt posting photos of raped women naked against the standards of journalism? this looks like journalists rape her again.
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Max Silva / March 9, 2012
All the jerks who appear on behalf of the barbaric Tamil Tiger terrorists on this website don’t use Tamil names.Why?The great Dravidians hate their own names.Why?True cowards like their barbaric god father.I am made to understand that there is a great demand for Tamils in the US and Europe to work as butchers in meat outlets.But still i would advice you to stick to your drug trafficking,credit card fraud and prostitution business.When i get horny to whom do i turn other than to our Dravidian pimps?
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Perinpanayakam / March 11, 2012
When you get horny look for someone next door neighbor than looking for Dravidian ones. for start look for Duminda Silva, Mervin de Silva, Sampath Chandra Pushpa Vidanapathirana, L.M. Dharmasiri, Godakawela will provide you an updated list ASAP.!!!
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Devinda Fernando / March 9, 2012
Absolutely disgusting photos. BUT It is the 2500 year accomplishment of Sinhala-Buddhism. God forbid what the next 2500 years will bring.
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Max Silva / March 9, 2012
Hey Devindram,where do you think the all mighty god had been when this incident was taking place?Is it true that this god character watches your every move including when you are in the bathroom not to mention the bedroom?Peeping Tom,eh!About the next 2500 years,not to worry.The god fearing Americans will wipe out the human race before that.
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Bodinayaka / March 9, 2012
who are responsible for this? The guys who now try to bring issues in Geneva. The MASTERS.
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Max Silva / March 9, 2012
These photos are a lot of Tamil Tiger Terrorist false propaganda crap.No saner persons will believe these,considering the past records of the messengers who are not only murderers but also drug traffickers,credit card fraudsters,pimps and want to say more?Where is the cyanide pill necklace and the LTTE tattoo in the victims arms?May be the all mighty god forgot about it.CT,pl re do it.
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bhoor / March 9, 2012
Of the girls in these images, one – who is identified as Gunalingam Uhusalini ( aka Agalvili) and a news-reporter – was surrendered with 59-division, whose commanding officer was then Brigadier Chagie Gallage, on May 18, 2009.
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Vasu / March 9, 2012
Colombo Telegraph has a grouph of thugs like Peter Casie Chetty, Bodinayale and DJ writing everything and anything which all other quality websites like groundviews etc., does not publish, better said they never trust to comment
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dr / March 9, 2012
Colombo Telegraph , I’m shocked and ashamed of your decision to publish these pictures and I find it disturbing. Please do not stoop too low in your journalism . I thought you are one of the modern civilised websites not like gutter journalism like certain other websites who only lives in the world of threats and threats and threats but nothing else.Very empty I would say.
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Akuana R R - UK / March 10, 2012
Hey DR, Y shocked? Publishing? dont you think the world should know this?
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