By Colombo Telegraph –
Disturbing images of war crimes committed by the Sri Lankan army
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By Colombo Telegraph –
To watch click here
What has happened has happened. It would be foolish to deny that the LTTE and the SL Army fought the war ‘according to the book’. Many try to justify the actions of the SL Army by mentioning about the LTTE brutality. Friends, it does not get evened out like that. LTTE was a terrorist organisation and the SL Army was representing the legitimate government of Sri Lanka.People like us who had never fought a war or killed a human being cannot imagine how you can kick dead bodies and strip them naked. Its something unimaginable. However, lets not forget that these soldiers were, maybe minutes before, fighting to stay alive from the gunfire of the same fighters that are dead now. I am not trying to justify the desecrating of dead bodies, but wish to emphasise that we cannot take the moral high ground here for the simple reason that we have never encountered such a grave situation before. Who knows? maybe we would have behaved much worse. As we all know, humans when they are faced with danger/death, will react differently.
However, we should not try to absolve those personnel who would have conducted executions and rape. It is quite surprising that with most of the personnel’s faces clearly visible in the videos, that the GOSL had stil not made a genuine attempt to identify them. I do not support any resolutions against my country by hypocritic western super powers. However, I firmly believe that this government needs a kick in the butt every now and then to put them on its track. Its unfortunate that this government embraces all the good things, only when they get their ass kicked by either India or West. The government is following the “Victor’s Justice” when it comes to minorities. “You do what we want” sort of attitude.
The problem with most of us is that we talk about history and act like the ‘frog in the well’. The glories of the past are long gone. Our cultures have been shaken at its foundations by a war, which killed and maimed thousands of our people. The soil in the North and East is soaked with the blood of Singhalese, Tamils and Muslims – our brothers and sisters. Still we keep arguing and continue our ‘past time’ i.e. the blame game. If we try to start finding which nationality has more claim to SL, we can go back centuries and then see that all of us migrated from somewhere or the other. The fact remains that today, we have many ethnicities in SL. The only way forward is as One Country, One Nation!!! That’s the crying need now.We need to move on with respect and equality for all.
Thank you A Rivendra for your sane comments. Would you mind if I quoted you?
You are most welcome to quote me. The problem with Sri Lankans is that they still dwell in the past, such as “oh, the tigers used to kill innocent men, women and children too” or “the singhalese were discriminatory by making Sinhala the only official language” or ”we the Singhalese buddhist has 2,500 years of history in this land” or “we were there before the Singhalese”. My answer to all of these history buffs is – get a life!!! History is past. No point in arguing who landed first in the Island or the mistakes of the past. There were discrimination from both sides, Tamils and Singhalese alike. For the sake of our future generations, let us learn from our mistakes and not repeat them.
@ A Rivendra
“No point in arguing who landed first in the Island or the mistakes of the past. There were discrimination from both sides, Tamils and Singhalese alike. For the sake of our future generations, let us learn from our mistakes and not repeat them.”
Thank you for talking such good sense A Rivendra. I had noticed these tendency in debates about the Sri Lanka situation and it reminded me of the Irish. When Lloyd George was holding peace talks with the Irish rebels in 1921, he remarked in exasperation “I can’t stop them talking about Cromwell”. Jonathan Powell said a similar thing about Martin McGuinness and Gerry Adams in more recent times.
Thank you Chandra. Contact me at email@example.com
What a joke. It’s just a DEAD Body..!!!!! Where are the prooff of rape…?????? And they are accusing for rape murders only based on one dead woman ?????? What about numerous cases of child rape and forced soldier committed by the LTTE ?????
Hey man, wait few days!!! You will see!
“WikiLeaks: Gota Has Been Punishing Army For Rape And Murder”
This is clearly a doctored and stage managed picture. A bad effort by Donald Gnakone and his Goebellian PR machine that is circulating make believe pictorial stories in a desperate attempt to discredit Sri Lanka.
1. The underwear (nickers) worn by the girl is a very upmarket lengerie, not the type of under garments typically worn by Tamil girls in the North buffeted by 30 years of LTTE trade blockade there.
2. The white lace material shawl, is so pristine white, and new , and also Jaffna girls never wore such shawls in the Wanni during the war.
3. The sun and the heat was tremendous and hot and scorching in the Wanni that one of the girls seem to have worn sun block right through her life in the north ( ?) for her skin does not reflect any sun burns and the complexion is too white, and not tanned.
4. The soldier is wearing Hindu wrist bands given from kovils and no Pirith Noolas, which is what most of the Sinhalese soldiers wore, and also the yellow wrist band is a rubber band and not the API we hewn API wrist band.
5. The fake red blood is seen in the discoloured two tone red and near pinkish red dye that has been added.
The foregoing are the first observations on these doctored stage managed pictures. Time for the world to realize that they are been manipulated.
1. The person in that picture is Issapriya, who was well off, given her important position in the LTTE
2. The shawl is not pristine white
3. Only in the first picture, the torso and the legs appear white (which makes sense, given Issapriya’s high position as news reporter in the LTTE) But in the third picture, the face and arms are tanned, which is consistent with exposure to the sun
5. The blood and the mud have mixed, forming a color different from pure blood.
Actually, in all the photos of Issapriya, the arms and face are considerably tanned, which is consistent with exposure to the sun. If she wore sun block, as you claim, the face would not be that color.
These pictures emerged three years ago. They are terrorists, female cadres. There is no evidence of rape or abuse. They are dead bodies. These pictures reappear again and again because it is HUMAN RIGHTS carnival time at UNHRC for butchers of civilians. It is time to start a new massacre-project. We have seen mountains of carnage for the last 10 yrs by US-EU coalition who always escape without accountability or allegations of war crimes but now pressurizing Sri Lanka for accountability for defeating mos ruthless terrorists by a tiny nation by its own. Super powers in a coalition (US-EU) suppress the tiny nation, Sri Lanka for victory against the number one terrorists-LTTE, because the tiny nation did what they as a coalition of super powers couldn’t do. They could only boast of unaccomplished missions in front of banners saying “Mission Accomplished”
Here is a statement of a soldier I like to agree with about the nude pictures:
““I myself have helped dispose of bodies in this way, and we did make crude juvenile jokes. We were all just 19 or 20 years old, and you joke about everything if you don’t wanna go insane. Many of us had never even seen a real naked woman before, so obviously we commented, even though they were dead. It isn’t a polite tea party, but it isn’t a war crime either.” – David Blacker (ex-soldier, Sri Lankan Army)”
Only a total idiot would believe that the soldiers only made a joke about the corpses. Much more than that occurred, which is evident from the pictures themselves. There is plenty of evidence of rape and abuses.
But it is NOT evident, Unterklokommandant Heshan. I have asked you repeatedly to point out the sign s of rape. Were the males raped too? Was your boyfriend Prabha raped too in his jungy? Thank you for posting that statement of mine again, which makes it clear no sexual crime was committed.
Can anyone here point to the signs of rape in those pictures? Do you even know what the signs would be? If you cannot point them out, then you really are just talking nonsense.
David Blacker, What’s the proof that you were not rapist while serving the Srilankan armed forces?
Excellent observation, Bhoor.
By the way, does anyone else have a theory to describe why a woman would have her hands tied and her undergarments removed, if she was not raped? If they do, then I would like to nominate them for the “Darwin Award for Stupidity”, to be awarded jointly with David Blacker.
Bhoor (intuitive pseudonym that), what is the proof you are not a rapist? Or that Observer/Heshan/Nihal is not a white supremacist pedophile? There is none.
Unterklokommandant Heshan, I will repeat what has been repeated many times but ignored by multiple Darwin Award winners such as yourself.
The clothes of the dead are usually cut off so that the corpses may be searched for weapons, explosives, and documents. POWs and wounded are similarly stripped to avoid incidents such as the suicide bomber who killed the refugees at Vavuniya. This is done routinely by both sides, regardless of whether the dead are male or female. If there is time, and if the clothes are not in shreds, the bodies are sometimes redressed, especially if they are to be photographed for the media. If not, they are simply disposed of as they are. Often, uniforms are taken away for intelligence units to examine rank badges and unit patches. Prisoners are then provided with blankets or other pieces of available clothing. In the pictures above, it is impossible to tell if the women were naked when they were killed, but this is unlikely given that one cannot walk around with your underwear around your knees. Clearly, the clothes have been loosened or removed post-mortem for the benefit of pictures.
This answer is not going to change regardless of how many times the question is asked or how loudly rape is screamed by retards such as Observer.
You left out the most important part, Blacker:
After the soldiers are done abusing the corpses (taking cell phone pictures, having intercourse with, poking it with sticks, enjoying the “first experience with a naked woman” – your exact words! – then the bodies are driven at low speed through the town for the viewing pleasure of the residents:
” the “first experience with a naked woman” – your exact words! “
No, those are NOT my words, Unterklokommandant Heshan. Why are you lying? Haven’t you claimed to be a follower of Jesus? Does He teach us to lie? Also, there is no sign of those women being driven through towns as you claim. Again, why are you making up stuff? As usual, you make sure that the actual subject will not be discussed, but derailed into discussing your masturbatory fantasies. Good job; perhaps the GoSL is paying you like they do Ranil W, to make sure the opposition will always be inept and appear stupid. :D
It’s a shame that that wonderful human being “VELU” is not with us anymore..Bloody disappointed! Gota bad.Mahinda bad.But our Velu, very good..Where was this ALL MIGHTY GOD?SLA bad.But our holy “Velu”: very good.RIP!Ha ha ha any takers to accompany me to Nandikadal?We should hang Mahinda and Gotta for killing that wonderful human being one and only”VELU”.
THevidiya pasanga….Sathyama ivanungala nadu road la saagadikkanum cha…..
Very nice photos!But not enough.How about nude photos of Monika Lewinsky?Pl give us more.Hope that the old bag Hilary wouldn’t mind.CT give me real porn.Pl give me erotic stories of Uncle Bill playing with the cigar.Oh! forget about that change man Obama.Pl give us something about god fearing Bill and Monica.Uncle Bill is a very nice guy!CT pl give us more porn now that the Ealam dream is all over.Lets all enjoy.Pl give us more nude pictures.How about that old bag Camilla?At least can you give us some sort of sexy photos of Ms Sunilla?Pl.Pl give me juice pictures.Otherwise i will turn to Play Boy.But still i am upset over the death of that wonderful human being “Velu”.
The war criminal David Blacker does not believe any of the women in the pictures were raped. Out of 107 responses, only 1 other person agrees with him. Perhaps there is hope for Sorry Lanka after all!
I have not said I believe anything of the sort; what I have said is that there is NO proof in the pictures that they were raped. I have repeatedly asked you to point out the signs of rape on the body. You remain silent on the matter, proving my point that there is no such sign.
So you admit they were raped. Finally.
Where have I admitted this? :D You much vaunted education in English kicking in again?
Photos like these are pornographic. The men who enjoy the pictures are the same as those who enjoy raping and killing. It doesn’t matter what your ethnicity. If you had any part in these acts, you are the worst possible kind of human being. And by the way, raping and killing a person is worse than peeing on a corpse.
Exactly my point. If you enjoy abusing a corpse of the opposite gender in any sort of way, whether its making a joke or poking it with a stick, then chances are you also enjoy raping and killing. David Blacker has admitted he enjoyed making rude, derogatory jokes about (nude) corpses while he was a soldier; therefore, we can conclude that chances are high he also engaged in systematic raping and killing, or at the very least, was an accessory to such behavior. One need not doubt that such behavior was the official policy of the Sri Lankan Army; 107 Sri Lankan soldiers were kicked out of Haiti for exploiting underage girls.
Corporal Donald Payne served a year in prison for beating to death an Iraqi hotel receptionist. Whatever about what the Gage Inquiry decide, his superior officers got off scot-free. If a few SLA personnel were sentenced to short prison terms I doubt if you would be satisfied. Rumsfeld might have apologised about Abu Ghgraib but shouldn’t he have been jailed?
Peggy:” If you had any part in these acts, you are the worst possible kind of human being.”
And what sort of human being falsely accuses another of such crimes without any proof. Was I present when those pictures were taken? No. Have I said I was? No. And yet you persist in suggesting that I had some part in it. If you have any decency, you will apologize and take that comment back.
Unterklokommandant Heshan/Nihal/Observer (white supremacist, pedophile, and Holocaust-denier): :If you enjoy abusing a corpse of the opposite gender in any sort of way, whether its making a joke or poking it with a stick, then chances are you also enjoy raping and killing.”
So you’re saying it’s OK to do it to corpses of the same gender. Thank you for clarifying that for us.
“David Blacker has admitted he enjoyed making rude, derogatory jokes about (nude) corpses while he was a soldier; therefore, we can conclude that chances are high he also engaged in systematic raping and killing, or at the very least, was an accessory to such behavior.”
Since I have never made any such admittance, your comment is slanderous and deceitful, but something you’re well known for. So much for moderation on this site :D
@ Peggy – both acts are disgusting and cannot be assessed in terms of their relativity. The US soldeirs who did that are equally as bad as their SL counterparts. I am surprised that a difference is sought to be made!
But the US soldiers who did that have been reprimanded. Secondly, when it came to Abu Ghraib, the then US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld publicly apologized. It doesn’t take a genius to see that the American Army, although certainly guilty of some deplorable acts, is far more disciplined than the Sri Lankan Army – mostly because an American soldier cannot get away so easily with rape and murder, unlike his Sri Lankan counterparts, that abuse the EP and PTA
Here are just a few of the things done at Abu Ghraib:
MURDER — “The prisoner Manadel al-Jamadi died in Abu Ghraib prison after being interrogated and tortured by a CIA officer and a private contractor. The torture included physical violence and strappado hanging, whereby the victim is hung from the wrists with the hands tied behind the back. HIS DEATH HAS BEEN LABELLED A HOMICIDE BY THE US MILITARY, BUT NEITHER OF THE TWO MEN WHO CAUSED HIS DEATH HAVE BEEN CHARGED. THE PRIVATE CONTRACTOR WAS GRANTED QUALIFIED IMMUNITY.” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse#Death_of_Manadel_al-Jamadi)
RAPE & PEDOPHILIA — “Major General Antonio Taguba has stated that THERE IS PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE OF RAPE BEING CARRIED OUT BY AMERICAN MILITARY PERSONNEL at Abu Ghraib. AN IRAQI TEENAGE BOY WAS RAPED BY A UNIFORMED MAN WHILE PHOTOS OF IT WERE TAKEN BY A FEMALE US MILITARY POLICE. Another photo shows an American soldier apparently raping a female prisoner. Other photos show sexual assaults on prisoners with objects including a truncheon, wire and a phosphorescent tube, and a female prisoner having her clothing forcibly removed to expose her breasts. TAGUBA HAS SUPPORTED PRESIDENT OBAMA’S DECISION NOT TO RELEASE THE PHOTOS, stating, “These pictures show torture, abuse, rape and every indecency.” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse#Raping_of_prisoners)
Here are more details of RAPE & PEDOPHILIA at Abu Ghraib for which no one was even charged:
In the Washington Post report, one detainee, Kasim Hilas, describes the rape of an Iraqi boy by a man in uniform, whose name has been blacked out of the statement: “I saw [name blacked out] FUCKING A KID, HIS AGE WOULD BE 15-18 YEARS. THE KID WAS HURTING VERY BAD AND THEY COVERED ALL THE DOORS WITH SHEETS. Then when I heard the screaming I climbed the door because on top it wasn’t covered and I saw [blacked out], who was wearing the military uniform putting his dick in the little kid’s ass,” Mr Hilas told military investigators. “I couldn’t see the face of the kid because his face wasn’t in front of the door. And the female soldier was taking pictures.” (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/may/22/iraq.usa1)
The report goes on to say: “Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez, head of coalition forces in Iraq, issued an order last October giving military intelligence control over almost every aspect of prison conditions at Abu Ghraib with the explicit aim of manipulating the detainees’ “emotions and weaknesses”, it was reported yesterday. The October 12 memorandum, reported in the Washington Post, is a potential “smoking gun” linking prisoner abuse to the US high command. It represents hard evidence that the maltreatment was not simply the fault of rogue military police guards.”
No one served over 7 years. And Rumsfeld apologized. US justice at its best.
MAI LAI: Hundreds of women and children raped and killed. One junior officer served THREE MONTHS HOUSE ARREST.
US justice served.
let the srilankan government go to hell…
World should fight for their justice…
let us together Pray for their soul to rest in peace.
God will punish them…
How about those who supported and financed LTTE terrirsts going hell?
dammu thundu nadu srilanka .india onnu saentha paspam aieudum
Just to pray for those women to rest in peace, they die in such a shame way, but the world will never forget them. . I believe that one day those assault monster soldiers will be brought to justice by law and god law. People should respect to each other so all of us can live in peace!
Observer ,you say that the US army is far more disciplined.How about this-Today a disciplined US soldier slaughtered 16 civilians in Afghanistan.The question here is who is more disciplined,The US army or the LTTE terrorists!
Since that soldier acted by himself, it was most likely a case of PTSD. The interesting part is that he turned himself in right after the shooting.
What is so interesting about it? And have you no become a shrink as well? We’ll no doubt see this killer go to jail for a couple of years and then carry on with his life. US justice indeed.
Please stop talking about what the US did and what we did. Are we seriously interested about making things betetr in our own country for Sri lankans, Tamils, Sinhalese and Muslims? Then we need to put our own house in order, We need to straighten out our judiciary and our Attorney General’s Dept. The matter ends there. Who the devil cares about the US??
Actually, SL can learn a lot from the US side. While the American response is usually lacking and just a cheap attempt to ward off bad publicity, the victims can still expect some kind of justice. On the other hand, the Sri Lankan response is zero . Total denial and cover-up. No apology or acknowledgment. The offending commanders are given diplomatic positions in Australia and New York. The soldiers themselves are never punished, even if identified, aka Trinco 5 incident. There is a bad diplomatic fallout that ensues from all of this (for example the Darusman Report and a Sri Lankan ex-general/ambassador being kicked out of Germany). It also makes Western foreign firms less likely to invest in the island. So not just the Tamils suffer when these brutes do their dirty work; there are long-term ramifications for the well-being of the island as a whole.
To the contrary, in every single case brought against an SL soldier, stiff punishments have been meted out, often life in prison, or the death sentence. In comparison, the US gives them a slap on the wrist, and often promotes the villains. I have provided links to the most horrendous cases of rape, murder, and pedophelia which, in spite of eyewitness testimony and photographic evidence (the latter suppressed by Obama himself) are ignored. And yet, Unterklokommandant Heshan/Nihal/Observer defends this acts and praises them as “justice” :D
Your concern for the lack of foreign investment is so touching. My heart bleeds for you.
Blacker, the Defense Ministry propagandist and war criminal, is spreading falsehoods abut Abu Ghraib in a desperate bid to make the Sri Lankan side look better.
Blacker says: “No one served over 7 years.”
In fact, the truth is as follows: “Specialist Charles Graner was found guilty on January 14, 2005 of conspiracy to maltreat detainees, failing to protect detainees from abuse, cruelty, and maltreatment, as well as charges of assault, indecency, adultery, and obstruction of justice. On January 15, 2005, he was sentenced to 10 years in prison, dishonorable discharge and reduction in rank to private.”
Blacker says: “No one served over 7 years.”
Nihal says:Graner “was sentenced to 10 years in prison”.
On August 6, 2011, Graner was released from after serving six and a half years of his 10 year sentence.
That is serving less than seven years Nihal.
Well, whatever Colman. How many soldiers were sentenced (at all) in the Trinco 5 incident? Or the CH4 tape? Or any of the following incidents, for that matter?
List of attacks attributed to Sri Lankan government forces
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The following is a list of attacks/massacres of civilians attributed to armed groups under the control of the Sri Lankan government – Army, Navy, Air Force, Police and paramilitary groups (Home Guards/Civil Defence Force, EPDP, PLOTE, TMVP etc).
 Attacks in chronological order
Attack / Massacre
Death toll Perpetrators
Tamil conference incident (1974) January 10, 1974 Jaffna, Jaffna District 9 Police 
Chunnakam market massacre March 28, 1984 Chunnakam, Jaffna District 10 Air Force 
Othiyamalai massacre December 1, 1984 Othiyamalai, Mullaitivu District 29 – 32 Army 
Mannar massacre (1984) December 4, 1984 Murunkan, Mannar District 107 – 150 Army 
Valvettithurai massacre (1985) May 12, 1985 Valvettithurai, Jaffna District 46 – 70 Army 
Kumudini boat massacre May 15, 1985 Sea off Jaffna District 23 Navy 
Thambattai massacre May 17, 1985 Thambattai, Ampara District 23 Police (STF) 
Killiveddy massacre (1985) May 30, 1985 Killiveddy, Trincomalee District 44 Police 
Akkaraipattu massacre February 19, 1986 Akkaraipattu, Ampara District 80 Army 
Prawn farm massacre / Kokkadichcholai massacre (1987) January 27, 1987 Kokkadichcholai, Batticaloa District 83 Police (STF) 
Kalmunai massacre June 12, 1990 Kalmunai, Ampara District 160 – 250 Army 
Veeramunai massacre August 12, 1990 Veeramunai, Ampara District 21 Home Guards 
Eastern University massacre / Vantharamulai campus massacre September 5, 1990 Batticaloa, Batticaloa District 158 Army 
Batticaloa massacre (1990) / Sathurukondan massacre September 9, 1990 Batticaloa, Batticaloa District 184 Army 
Chavakachcheri market massacre October 9, 1990 Chavakachcheri, Jaffna District 12 Army 
Kondaichchi massacre February, 1991 Kondaichchi, Mannar District 4 Army 
Eravur massacre February 20, 1991 Eravur, Batticaloa District 6 Home Guards 
Iruthayapuram massacre March, 1991 Iruthayapuram, Batticaloa District 11 Police 
Nayanmar Thidal massacre April 12, 1991 Nayanmar Thidal, Tampalakamam, Trincomalee District 4 
Kokkadichcholai massacre (1991) June 12, 1991 Kokkadichcholai, Batticaloa District 152 Army 
Polonnaruwa massacre April 29, 1992 Muthugal and Karapola, Polonnaruwa District 87 Home Guards, Police 
Mylanthanai massacre August 9, 1992 Mylanthanai, Batticaloa District 35 Army 
Paliyadvaddai massacre October 24, 1992 Paliyadvaddai, Batticaloa District 10-11 
Jaffna lagoon massacre / Kilaly massacre January 2, 1993 Jaffna Lagoon, Jaffna District 35 – 100 Navy 
Vannathi Aru massacre February 17, 1993 Vannathi Aru, Batticaloa District 16 Army 
Kalviankadu massacre July 27, 1993 Kalviankadu, Jaffna District 6 Air Force 
Jaffna lagoon massacre July 29, 1993 Jaffna Lagoon, Jaffna District 19 Navy 
Pulmoddai massacre May 6, 1995 Pulmoddai, Trincomalee District 5 Army 
Navaly church bombing July 9, 1995 Navaly, Jaffna District 125 Air Force 
Nagerkovil school bombing September 22, 1995 Nagerkovil, Jaffna District 39 Air Force 
Kumarapuram massacre / Trincomalee massacre (1996) / Killiveddy massacre (1996) February 11, 1996 Kumarapuram, Trincomalee District 24 Army 
Tampalakamam massacre February 3, 1998 Tampalakamam, Trincomalee District 8 Police, Home Guards 
Puthukkudiyiruppu bombing September 15, 1999 Puthukkudiyiruppu, Mullaitivu District 21 Air Force 
Pallikuda bombing May 12, 2000 Pallikuda, Kilinochchi District 5 Air Force 
Silivaturai massacre May 13, 2000 Silivaturai, Mannar District 5 Navy 
Columbuthurai massacre May 15, 2000 Columbuthurai, Jaffna District 5 Army 
Mirusuvil massacre December 20, 2000 Mirusuvil, Jaffna District 8 Army 
Trincomalee massacre (2006) January 2, 2006 Trincomalee, Trincomalee District 5 Police (STF) 
Allaipiddy massacre May 13, 2006 Allaipiddy, Jaffna District 13 Navy, EPDP 
Pesalai Church attack June 17, 2006 Pesalai, Mannar District 6 Navy 
Trincomalee massacre of NGO workers (2006) / Muttur massacre August 4, 2006 Muttur, Trincomalee District 17 Police, Home Guards 
St. Philip Neri Church shelling August 13, 2006 Allaipiddy, Jaffna District 15 – 36 Army 
Chencholai bombing August 14, 2006 Mullaitivu, Mullaitivu District 61 Air Force 
Vaharai Bombing / Vaharai Shelling November 7, 2006 Kathiraveli, Batticaloa District 45 Army 
Massacre at Thandikulam November 19, 2006 Thandikulam, Vavuniya 5 Police, Army 
Padahuthurai bombing / Illuppaikadavai bombing January 2, 2007 Illuppaikadavai, Mannar District 15 Air Force 
Tharmapuram Hospital shelling January 8, 2009 Tharmapuram, Mullaittivu District 7 Army 
Vallipuram Hospital shelling January 22, 2009 Vallipuram, Mullaittivu District 5 Army 
Suthanthirapuram shelling January 24, 2009 Suthanthirapuram Junction, Mullaittivu District 11+ Army 
Udayaarkaddu Hospital shelling January 26, 2009 Udayaarkaddu, Mullaittivu District 12 Army 
Puthukkudiyiruppu Hospital shelling February 1–3, 2009 Puthukkudiyiruppu, Mullaittivu District 9+ Army 
Ponnambalam Memorial Hospital bombing February 5–6, 2009 Near Puthukkudiyiruppu, Mullaittivu District Up to 75 
Putumattalan Hospital shelling February 9–10, 2009 Putumattalan, Mullaittivu District 16+ Army 
Putumattalan Hospital shelling April 9, 2009 Putumattalan, Mullaittivu District 22+ Army 
Putumattalan Hospital shelling April 20, 2009 Putumattalan, Mullaittivu District 13+ Army 
Valayanmadam make-shift hospital bombing April 21, 2009 Valayanmadam, Mullaittivu District 4-5 Air Force 
Mullivaikkal Primary Health Center bombing April 28, 2009 Mullivaikkal, Mullaittivu District 6+ Army, Air Force 
Mullivaikkal Primary Health Center shelling April 29, 2009 Mullivaikkal, Mullaittivu District 6 Army 
Mullivaikkal Hospital shelling April 29, 2009 Mullivaikkal, Mullaittivu District 9+ Army 
Mullivaikkal Hospital shelling April 30, 2009 Mullivaikkal, Mullaittivu District 9 Army 
Mullivaikkal Hospital shelling May 1, 2009 Mullivaikkal, Mullaittivu District 27 Army 
Mullivaikkal Hospital shelling May 2, 2009 Mullivaikkal, Mullaittivu District 68 Army 
Mullivaikal Hospital bombing
Observer Chimpanzee believes in Truthiness facts that confirm to his beliefs. Truthiness is a ‘truth’ that a person claims to know intuitively “from the gut” without regard to evidence, logic, intellectual examination, or facts. (© Stephen Colbert)
Observer Chimp’s Truthiness Facts
“North Korea is not a member of the UN.”
“US won the Vietnam War.”
“Neither England nor Germany nor India have a President.”
“Ranil Wickramasinghe wasn’t elected in 2001.”
“Hitler actually won WW2.”
“Japan doesn’t have a military.”
“Humans evolved from chimps”. Ha ha ha ha!
The US killing of civilians throughout the 20th and 21st centuries runs into MILLIONS, Unterklokommandant. The death toll for Rolling Thunder in Vietnam alone was over 200,000. But thanks again for derailing the debate from rape and murder into the EXACT SAME DEBATE we’ve had in every single thread you participate in — ie comparing who is worse, the US or SL. Inevitably, the millions the US has murdered and the handful it has convicted regularly prove you to be a fool :D But congratulations.
The US killing of civilians throughout the 20th and 21st centuries runs into MILLIONS,
Of course, if we use your statistics, such as the bombing of Dresden, the Vietnam War, and the atom bomb. But then, your statistics do not include the German bombing of London, the hundreds of thousands of Soviet citizens that starved to death at Stalingrad and Leningrad, or the fact that the Japanese killed 30 million East Asians and were willing to sacrifice millions of their own people in case of an American land invasion. . The magnitude of your claims are based on such ridiculous unsubstantiated claims such as “the Japanese tried to surrender unconditionally,” which no mainstream historian will acknowledge .
We are talking about unpunished crimes, Unterklokommandant Heshan. The Germans and Japanese were punished for their crimes. The US got away with impunity, and that is precisely my point :D Thanks for agreeing.
EVERY mainstream historian has agreed that the atom bombs were unnecessary and indeed a war crime. I challenge you to link to a reputed historian who has published a recent justification for the atom bombs :D Predictably, you will now scuttle away in silence.
These pix will be re-cycled and re-circulated with monotonous regularity around the time of any UN-instigated nonsense. That GoSL have still not managed to prosecute a few low-ranking soldiers for crimes committed during Eelam War 4 or even say “sorry” is indicative of their head-in-the-sand attitude. It allows Sri Lanka’s detractors to paint its entire armed forces as criminals. Rape cannot be defended under any circumstance. GoSL only have to follow US/NATO standard operational doctrine when dealing with these incidents.
I agree wholeheartedly with A. Ravindra’s comments. But, legions of distraught Eelamists, supported by their unwitting allies in the international human rights fora, will ensure that their hypocritical cries for “accountability” will continue for years to come.
Blacker’s already given chapter & verse on why bodies of dead LTTE are stripped before disposal. Laughing at dead bodies is not a war crime.
Observer/Heshan/Nihal is a serial liar, fantasist, an apologist for world-class genocidal war criminals (like Adolf) and a certified moron whose pronouncements (see below) prove that his commentary on Sri Lanka’s wars deserve to met with utter contempt.
Observer/Heshan/Nihal’s most cretinous statements include:
“if the Muslims took responsibility for their own actions, torture would not be an issue.”
“Torture is justifiable if there are laws that says it’s okay.”
..”Americans are very careful about who gets tortured..”
Let’s not forget the Unterklokommandant’s dismissing of the Holocaust as unimportant because “only Jews” were killed.
To have human rights, first you have to be HUMAN. Therefore, LTTE Terrorists do not have human rights. No one cried when child monks and women with children, and Muslims in prayer were butchered by LTTE terrorists. Silence western NGO’s and human rights campaigners made was deafening ath the time. Now let this be a deterent to any aspiring terrorist.
To the contrary, in every single case brought against an SL soldier, stiff punishments have been meted out, often life in prison, or the death sentence.
The above statement is yet another profound observation from the unabashed GOSL propagandist David Blacker.
The camera doesn’t make a bit of difference. All of them can record what you are seeing. But, you have to SEE. (Ernst Haas)
So has anyone else seen this great mass of SL soldiers being convicted? Or is it a case of yet another website blindly recording Blacker’s denials?
See how Gota has been doing it? LOL
WikiLeaks: Gota Has Been Punishing Army For Rape And Murder
Can you point out any cases where SL soldiers have been set free or given minor convictions? I have already linked to several such US cases. :D
This is a real lie. Those who are thinking that this is the situation in Sri Lanka come to Sri Lanka and see. These kind of news are generating by LTTE after they are defeated in the war. Don’t let them to misuse media. Come and see the truth.
An article in today’s UK Independent newspaper deals with a report of a survey by social networking site Mumsnet which shows a devastating scale of sexual violence against women. One in ten omen has been raped, and more than a third subjected to sexual assault. More than 80 per cent of the 1,600 respondents said they did not report their assault to the police, while 29 per cent said they told nobody – not even a friend or family member – of their ordeal. Nearly three-quarters (70 per cent) of respondents feel the media is unsympathetic to women who report rape, while more than half say the same is true of the legal system and society in general.
What does that have to do with psychopathic Sri Lankan Army soldiers brutalizing helpless women? At least in the UK, the women can expect justice (at the very least they can run away). In SL there is no justice.
“What does that have to do with psychopathic Sri Lankan Army soldiers brutalizing helpless women? At least in the UK, the women can expect justice (at the very least they can run away).”
I posted the link to reinforce my contention that rape is a very serious matter, certainly not a matter for humour or machismo gloating, wherever it happens.
If you sincerely believe that in the UK women can expect justice you have totally misunderstood the point of the survey. The survey strongly reinforces the already known fact that in the UK abused women cannot expect justice. Rape is severely under-reported because women are afraid of their abusers and they don’t trust the police or the courts.
It must be a comfort to these poor women to know that you believe they are better off because they can run away. Another point made by the survey is that the abusers are usually known to the abused – not some psychopathic stranger lurking in an alley.
This does not, of course, in any way excuse the behaviour of “psychopathic Sri Lankan Army soldiers brutalizing helpless women”.
Look at it another way.
Rape is a terrible crime whatever country it happens in.
Because one in ten women in the UK have been raped that does not mean that it is OK for Sri Lankan soldiers to commit rape.
However, are the SLA soldiers more “psychopathic” than the UK rapists?
Should the Sri Lankan government go to the UNHCR and demand that sanctions should be instituted against the UK government because one in ten UK women have been raped and the justice system has failed those women allowing their abusers impunity?
If you believe women in the UK cannot expect justice from the courts or police, you are certainly entitled to your view, but there is very little data to back up your claim. Dr. Pradeep Jagenathan has just written an excellent piece on the nature of sexual abuse in the Northern part of the country; basically, given the socio-economic deprivation of the region and the near-total absence of any effective law and order mechanism, it is the ideal playground for rapists. There is a very high positive correlation between crime and poverty.
“If you believe women in the UK cannot expect justice from the courts or police, you are certainly entitled to your view, but there is very little data to back up your claim.”
Thank you for allowing me to be entitled to my opinion.
What about discussing the particular data that I cited? I do not always trust such “research” myself. I worked in child protection in the UK and interested parties like NSPCC were prone to distort the data for their own purposes (including fundraising).. If you challenge this particular data please say so but do not deny that data is available.
“Dr. Pradeep Jagenathan has just written an excellent piece on the nature of sexual abuse in the Northern part of the country; basically, given the socio-economic deprivation of the region and the near-total absence of any effective law and order mechanism, it is the ideal playground for rapists. There is a very high positive correlation between crime and poverty.”
Dr Jagenathan is my esteemed colleague and fellow columnist on The Nation newspaper. I always read his articles with great interest. I don’t believe he used the words “ideal playground of rapists”. He does say: “But I do wish to underline the complex, multi faceted terrain of relations which overlays a broken social structure. Simplifying all this to make an easy, sound bite friendly, political point, does a disservice to the serious issues at stake.”
His analysis was more subtle than yours: “The break down can be attributed to wild swings in explicitly and implicitly enforced social norms, given a pre war, and war time social structure which saw an intertwining of both extreme patriarchal and puritanical ideologies.” He also says: “There is also a sense now among many who live and work in the north that women are not scared of the army like before and the army is not seen to openly engage in violence against women”.
If, indeed, you are correct in saying that there is a link between poverty and the incidence of rape, could the socio-economic deprivation of the northern part of the country have anything to do with the fact that it was under the jackboot (or Bata slipper) of the LTTE for so long? Let us hope that things will improve from now on.
> Because one in ten women in the UK have been raped
Good attempt to whitewash the GOSL yet again, Padraig. Why don’t you give the exact breakdown of the criteria for rape?
But where the ‘survey’ includes a woman being kissed by a co -worker defined as sexual assault
Also Padraig, the incidence of rape and other crimes in LTTE controlled areas was zero. If there was poverty, it was because of the embargo on essential items imposed by GOSL.
Do you really believe that?
I don’t understand what point you are making here. My unwavering point is that rape is a terrible crime which must be punished even if the perpetrators are members of the Sri Lankan Army.
Do I believe that the LTTE didn’t engage in rape? Yes. And that rape was virtually zero in LTTE controlled areas? Yes. These are well-known facts, although I’m sure there are a few exceptions, as with anything. The point is that for the Tamils, the law and order situation was much better under the LTTE than the SLA.
“Do I believe that the LTTE didn’t engage in rape? Yes. And that rape was virtually zero in LTTE controlled areas? Yes. These are well-known facts, although I’m sure there are a few exceptions, as with anything. The point is that for the Tamils, the law and order situation was much better under the LTTE than the SLA.”
Where is your data to support this bizarre assertion? (I notice that I am using the word “bizarre” a lot in my dealings with you).
It depends what you mean by “law and order”. I once met a man in Belfast who had great difficulty in walking because the Provos had shot him in the kneecaps. The Provos claimed to be policing the Catholic community but often they were using intimidation to protect their own criminal enterprises.
The mafia operate in much the same way.
I believe the Taliban are quite big on law and order also.
You know, it is possible to make legitimate criticisms of the Sri Lanka government and army without glorifying Prabhakaran and fantasising about the LTTE.
@ David Blacker
“the disarray of the clothes do not necessarily indicate rape, and I would say it even precludes it. Unless the suggestion is that the women were raped where they lie and then shot (an unlikely event), the underwear positions indicate that the disarrangement of the clothes happened post-mortem (it would be impossible for a prisoner to walk with underwear around their knees). The most likely scenario is that the women were killed in combat and then stripped for searching, or that they were executed and then stripped for photos.”
how do you explain the handcuffs?
They were handcuffed because standard SLA operating procedure is to handcuff prisoners while feeding them milk rice and fish cutlets.
In the pictures above, there are three women pictured; one clearly has her hands bound, the second has her arms behind her, but no bindings are visible, and the third clearly isn’t bound. Bound hands would indicate a possible execution.
Bound hands indicate restraint, not execution. Restraint — > Rape.
Restraint doesn’t indicate rape. But thanks for suggesting that they were not executed either lol
Here is a picture of US troops with an executed 15-year-old Afghan child near Kandahar in 2010. Would you agree that the corpse’s nudity and the blood on his legs are more indicative of violent rape than the above pictures?
All very fair women. No? Were they brought from Assam or Nagaland? Could not be from north or east of Shri Lanka.
Maybe from Finland.
I found this link through a friend. I follow such links with the intention to keep myself apprised of world affairs. I followed this blog all the while listening to people debate semantics’s on the authenticity of the photos. When all I could do was think about the ladies in the photos…how horrific their deaths were and why? It disturbs me that so many of you seem to be missing the point. No wonder the world is in the shape it is. May God rest their souls and may we all pray for peace. Please see the underlying issue here; so the next pictures are not your mothers, sisters, girlfriends and wife’s ect. If not please at least find something better to do with your time.
Well said Cynthia!
more like disgusting murdering animals.
The defenders of murders point to the US, but hey, that does not take the shine off these animals.
Crimes committed by US do not excuse crimes committed elsewhere.
The bigger animal accusing the little animal of being an animal. Logic?
The defenders of murder point to American atrocities in 1945 and 1960 to defend their actions in 2009, which is rather absurd.
There are plenty of more recent US atrocities but they do not excuse atrocities in other nations.
Mai Lai was in 1968, not 1970. The court martial was in 1971. A shining example of Unterklokommandant Heshan’s education :D
Sorry, that should read Mai Lai was in 1968 not 1960.
But the vast majority of the perpetrators in the US cases have been punished, which is really what matters. Can you give the name of a single Sri Lankan soldier who has served 2 days in prison for rape or murder?
“But the vast majority of the perpetrators in the US cases have been punished, which is really what matters”
Firstly, the vast majority have NOT been punished; secondly, if the punishment is a joke in comparison to the crime, justice most certainly has not been done.
“Can you give the name of a single Sri Lankan soldier who has served 2 days in prison for rape or murder?”
Nothing could be easier. In fact, instead of the ONE name you request, i’ll give you EIGHT; I’ll even throw in a cop. And instead of the two days you ask for, i’ll show you sentences ranging from 20 YEARS to the DEATH SENTENCE:
The court case against eight soldiers (Somaratne Rajapaksa, R. J. M. Jayasinghe, A. S. P. Perera, W. A. W. Alwis, D. G. Muthu Banda, D. M. Jayathilake, D. V. I. Kumara and A. P. Nishantha) and a policemen (G. P. Priyadarshana) for the rape and murder of Krishanti and murders of Rassammah, Pranavan and Kirupakaran in Chemmani on or around 7 September 1996 began on 18 November 1996 at the Colombo High Court. All nine were found guilty on 3 July 1998. Six (Somaratne Rajapaksa, R. J. M. Jayasinghe, G. P. Priyadarshana, A. S. P. Perera, D. M. Jayathilake and D. V. I. Kumara) were sentenced to death. The three others (W. A. W. Alwis, D. G. Muthu Banda and A. P. Nishantha) were sentenced to 20 years imprisonment and fined 50,000 rupees (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somaratne_Rajapakse#Case )
Keep it up, Unterklokommandant Heshan/Nihal/Observer. You are the greatest asset in showing how useless US military justice is :D
The cover-up of the Chemmani Mass Graves that Blacker refers to is well-known.
The points we make are: (1) The convicted soldiers were in the custody and control of the Sri Lankan government for 11 months (Once they were convicted of rape and murder and sentenced to death by the judge, they were taken to a prison in Colombo), and (2) The Sri Lankan government had a vested interest in covering up the mass graves. The Sri Lankan government has every reason to “persuade” these soldiers to cooperate with it to cover up the mass graves issue. What can the government do to persuade them to cooperate? After all, these men were under death sentence. What further threat can they make?
We do not know much about the lives of those soldiers in prison but for one small glimpse from reports reaching the human rights group Amnesty International. One of the soldiers in prison was Lance Corporal Somaratne Rajapakse. The prison guards asked him to sign a statement that he was emotionally disturbed at the time he revealed the mass graves to the court and that those statements were false. When he refused, he was beaten up by prison guards.
In addition to beatings and torture of the soldiers to put pressure on them to help with the cover up, the government could also threaten the lives of the children, wives and parents of the soldiers if they do not cooperate. This could be a great persuasion on these soldiers to cooperate because they know very well how cold-blooded Sri Lankan security personnel could be with innocent civilians. After all, they raped and murdered an innocent teenager and then murdered her relatives and neighbor who came to inquire of her! So there is ample opportunity for the Sri Lankan government to persuade the soldiers to cover up the mass graves issue.
How can the soldiers help in a cover up? After all, they have already revealed to the entire world the existence of mass graves. There is one way they could help the Sri Lankan government come out smelling like roses in front of the entire world. The soldiers could identify a wrong site as the location of the mass graves. Yes, they had already told the court that the graves were located near Chemmani village but still they could point out a place near Chemmani but still away from the real site of the mass graves. We believe that this was what happened.
The Sri Lankan government went out with great fanfare with foreign observers and reporters to excavate this false site. Naturally they did not find 400 bodies there. They found 15 bodies. It must have been a peripheral location where some bodies were buried. Remember that a body was found at the stadium grounds in Jaffna (Chemmani is also in Jaffna). Sri Lankan soldiers did not bury all the murdered Tamil civilians in the Chemmani mass graves. Bodies are also buried here and there all over Tamil areas under Sri Lankan army control. A few skeletons have, in fact, been found here and there during the past few years. It would be impossible to locate every such burial place.
ROFL. Back to the goalpost shifting. Heshan asks for a name. I provide NINE. Heshan now complains that it took 11 months.
The Mai Lai massacre took place in 1968. It took until 1971 (48 months of cover up) before the court martial took place. Brigade commander Henderson who was charged with covering it up was acquitted.
There are cover-ups in every atrocity (case in point the US’ most recent atrocity — the murder of 16 civilians in Afghanistan — 11 of the bodies were burned in the cover up)
The point is that unlike in the US, SL hands out stiff sentences to the guilty. Whether it happened in 1998 or not is immaterial.
Don’t shift the goalposts when you’re trapped, Unterklokommandant :D
Furthermore, as pertains to the Chemmani Mass Graves, one should ask the following: how many commanding officers were imprisoned or even given a demotion? The answer is 0 . In fact, war criminal Janaka Perera, a central figure behind the Chemmani Mass Graves, was given a diplomatic position in Australia.
At least 540 people disappeared after the SLA recaptured Jaffna in 1996; in his testimony before the Supreme Court, Lance Cpl. Somaratne Rajapakse stated that he could point to the location of 300-400 bodies. Now, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that 8 people didn’t kill 400 people. Neither does it take to figure out that 540 people don’t disappear from a tightly controlled environment unless permission is given from the top. The conclusion then is that the 8 people who were “convicted” in the Krishanthy K. rape and murder were simply scapegoats; the results of 11 months of international pressure to “do something,” and a desire on the part of the higher-ups to save their own skin.
UTHR has covered this issue in depth, including the cover-up , which Blacker makes no mention of: http://www.uthr.org/SpecialReports/spreport12.htm
Did I mention that Blacker has to go back to 1998 to find a conviction? So by Blacker’s own admission, no Sri Lankan Army soldier was disciplined for more than a decade.
Fonseka got off with a reprimand for a rape on Christmas Day 1975 (according to Asian Tribune which Colombo Telegraph has discredited).
Can you provide evidence of Janaka Silva’s involvement in the rape? Have charges been brought against anyone for the mass graves? Can you point to evidence that would implicate Janaka Silva or anyone else in that crimes?
You asked me for the name of a soldier convicted of rape or murder. I have done so. Why are you now talking about a different crime? Can you show me any cases of mass murder in SL for which soldiers have been acquitted or given light sentences?
I selected the Krishanthi Kumaraswamy case because you asked for a murder/rape case. If no one has been charged since then, how can you suggest that soldiers have been acquitted or let off lightly? The point is that no SL soldier charged with such a horrible crime has ever been let off lightly or acquitted. In the US, practically EVERY such soldier charged has got off lightly.
Keep it up, Heshan; as I told you on Groundviews, you certainly do the GoSL a great service because of your inability to put together a coherent attack.
For those to whom Observer denied being “Heshan” on Groundviews, here is what he said about Chemmani in December 2010:
“Despite Somaratne Rajapakse and others involved in the murder of KK directly implicating Srilal Weerasooriya, Janaka Perera, Lionel Ballage, etc., none of the latter three were ever reprimanded, found guilty of any wrongdoing, or given demotions.”
Almost a verbatim copy of which he has just posted above, proving he is indeed the same troll. Do check out the rest of the thread from which he will presently copy and paste here: http://groundviews.org/2010/11/28/the-big-lie/
By Blacker’s own admission, no Sri Lankan Army soldier has been disciplined for more than a decade
Also, Blacker has no idea that there was an international campaign against Janaka Perera to highlight his war crimes.
Gen Perera was one of Sri Lanka’s most prominent army officers and held the command of government forces in the Jaffna peninsula, a Tiger stronghold, in the mid-1990s.
The Tamil community accused him of being responsible for hundreds of deaths and the torture of Tamils in the region during the period.
The human rights group Amnesty International raised similar concerns.
After retiring from the army, Gen Perera served as Sri Lanka’s high commissioner to Australia and ambassador to Indonesia.
His appointment as the envoy to Australia in June 2001 sparked protest demonstrations in Sydney.
More than 300 Tamils protested outside the Australian parliament accusing Gen Perera of “war crimes”.
By Blacker’s logic, “Heshan” must be writing for bbcsinhala and Amnesty International.
In any event why does Blacker go to extreme lengths to defend Janaka Perera? Is it because Blacker was in the area at the time and participated in some of the war crimes?
After all, who would be so willing to defend a war criminal except another war criminal?
“By Blacker’s own admission, no Sri Lankan Army soldier has been disciplined for more than a decade”
No, I never said that, so please don’t continue to lie :D You asked me for the name of a soldier given a sentence over 2 days. I gave you NINE names of soldiers with sentences ranging from 20 years to death. Now that you had your arse kicked, you’re changing your story.
Can you point out any US soldier who has got a similar sentence on those charges in FIVE decades? :D
“The Tamil community accused him of being responsible for hundreds of deaths and the torture of Tamils”
The Tamil community has made many accusations against many people; it doesn’t mean they are true. I myself have accused you of being a rapist and a pedophile; so why are there no charges against you?
“By Blacker’s logic, “Heshan” must be writing for bbcsinhala and Amnesty International.”
I don’t think even the BBC or AI would hire ant-Semitic bigots, ignorant illiterates, or simple retards.
“In any event why does Blacker go to extreme lengths to defend Janaka Perera? Is it because Blacker was in the area at the time and participated in some of the war crimes?”
Firstly, can you show us where I have defended the general; and second, are you under the misapprehension that to request evidence on a nonsensical accusation is to defend? Thirdly, you yourself have gone to great lengths to excuse and defend the murder of Jews, and the Tiger acts of terrorism. Therefore, we must question whether you in fact have carried out racist acts of violence against Jews and SL civilians.
“After all, who would be so willing to defend a war criminal except another war criminal?”
Good question. Why are you defending Hitler and VP? The fact that you are defending both surely must mean that there is a connection between the two that has won your love and adulation for those men.
No, I never said that
Welcome to the world of logic, Blacker. I asked you to give the name of a Sri Lankan soldier indicted for crimes in the North and East, and the best you could do is come up with an examle from 1998. 2011 – 1998 = 14, so it remains a fact that by your own admission no Sri Lankan Army soldier has been disciplined for more than a decade .
Firstly, can you show us where I have defended the general
This is what you said: To the contrary, in every single case brought against an SL soldier, stiff punishments have been meted out, often life in prison, or the death sentence .
Janaka Perera oversaw the mass murder of 540 Tamils in 1996. A strong case was made against him by Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, UTHR, and others. So either these charges are inconsistent (since we know you’re not a liar!) or else you’ve managed to whitewash the mass murder of Perera and all other Sri Lankan war criminals.
Thirdly, you yourself have gone to great lengths to excuse and defend the murder of Jews, and the Tiger acts of terrorism.
I have never defended the Holocaust or the Tiger acts of terrorism. The Holocaust was a barbaric crime against humanity, and the punishment was inadequate. In the case of the Tigers, while I do not agree with their methods, I can see why they chose to fight back, given that O-Level dropouts with less than average IQs such as yourself were willing to die to defend Mahavamsa mythology and, having been brainwashed by the monks at the village level, carried out every sort of atrocity against the Tamils for 30 years. The only thing I supported is the freedom of Tamils to decide their own future. Then again, what does a war criminal such as yourself know about freedom, except how to take it away?
“Bound hands indicate restraint, not execution“.
Looks like the bald, overweight, war criminal Blacker is trying to play semantic games. It’s easier to commit rape when the victim is restrained. Execution does not necessarily require restraint, as indicated in the latest CH4 tape, when the Tamil witness says Blacker’s fellow war criminal buddies fired rounds into random civilians at will.
“Welcome to the world of logic, Blacker. I asked you to give the name of a Sri Lankan soldier indicted for crimes in the North and East, and the best you could do is come up with an examle from 1998.”
No, that is not the world of logic. Here is a link to the meaning of the word so that you can understand it before you claim it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic Logic isn’t asking one question and expecting the answer to an unasked question. That’s called idiocy. It’s also a lie, since what you asked me for was the name of a soldier who had spent more than two days in prison for the crimes of rape or murder. Anyone with even your IQ should know that there are plenty of those. Now that your foolishness has been revealed, you want a recent conviction, despite the fact that NO American soldier has had a similar conviction recently or even in the last 50 years!
Reminds me of the time you asked anyone on Groundviews to point out a US atrocity, and when Mai Lai was pointed out, you claimed it was too old to be relevant, while you yourself routinely use Hitler and the Nazis as examples without any sense of irony :D Maybe this’ll help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony
I asked you to quote me defending Janaka Perera and you say: “This is what you said: To the contrary, in every single case brought against an SL soldier, stiff punishments have been meted out, often life in prison, or the death sentence .” :D How is that defending Janaka Perera? ROFL, are you saying that pointing out the facts in contrast to your fantasies is a defense? Ha ha ha.
“Janaka Perera oversaw the mass murder of 540 Tamils in 1996. A strong case was made against him by Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, UTHR, and others.”
Can you quote (with links) anything from this “strong case” against the Janaka Perera? If you cannot, then under what pretext should the general have been charged?
“I have never defended the Holocaust …”
But you previously claimed that the Holocaust does not matter because it killed “only Jews”. You compounded this by dismissing quotes from what you called “Jewish websites”. You also introduced conspiracy theories that it was the Jews who were responsible for developing the atom bombs and dropping them on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. You have also tried to belittle the Holocaust by suggesting that the Japanese were worse and killed more people than Hitler. All this taken together, represents a defense of anti-semitism and the Holocaust.
“… or the Tiger acts of terrorism”
But you have dismissed Tiger acts of terrorism as unimportant because traffic accidents claimed more casualties (logic = murder must be ignored because disease is worse). You have also defended Tiger atrocities against civilians by claiming that the border villagers were squatters. Taken together with your lengthy defense of Prabakharan amount to a defense of the Tigers and their methods.
“In the case of the Tigers, while I do not agree with their methods, I can see why they chose to fight back”
I too can see the latter, but you have defended the former, which is my point that you should there be accused of having perpetrated anti-Semitic crimes as well as terrorism.
“The only thing I supported is the freedom of Tamils to decide their own future.”
But I support that too. So where is our disagreement? Clearly, it is on method. Thanks for admitting that :D
“Then again, what does a war criminal such as yourself know about freedom, except how to take it away?”
Given that you have failed miserably to prove me a war criminal, shouldn’t we therefore dismiss your claims of knowing what I am able to do or not do?
“Looks like the bald, overweight, war criminal Blacker is trying to play semantic games.”
Looks like pedophile and rapist Observer/Heshan/Nihal is admitting his lack of intelligence.
“It’s easier to commit rape when the victim is restrained.”
Again, I will defer to your personal knowledge of rape technique, but are you saying that rape is impossible without restraint? If no, then you must logically admit that restraint doesn’t indicate rape, but only indicates restraint.
“Execution does not necessarily require restraint”
Where have I said that it requires restraint? :D Your inability to grasp plain English is dragging this debate down to a pedestrian pace, Unterklokommandant. I said restraint indicates execution. Do try and keep up.
I note that you also refuse to answer this question of mine: Can you point out any cases where SL soldiers have been set free or given minor convictions? I have already linked to several such US cases.
No, that is not the world of logic
It’s called drawing an inference, Blacker. Inference is what allows one to go beyond mere black and white arguments (the only type that you seem to be capable of). It’s not something you learn on Wikipedia but at school. Perhaps if you had considered an alternative career path other than “war criminal”, you would’ve learned it.
Anyway, this conversation is over. Your admission of guilt in the participation of war crimes and admission of the fact that no Sri Lankan soldier has been reprimanded for over 10 years has provided a most penetrating insight into the mindset of the hows and whys behind the criminal behavior of the typical SLA soldier.
If one wishes to understand the (criminal) mindset of the typical Sri Lankan Army soldier, look no further than Blacker. He believes its okay for soldiers to take (cell phone) pictures of female LTTE corpses, in various states of undress – as well as abuse the corpses in various other ways – because war is not “a polite tea party.” In fact, Blacker believes abusing the corpses has a therapeutic effect: to not engage in such behavior would result in a definite loss of sanity. In addition to explicitly mentioning that he himself has engaged in such behavior, Blacker has gone to go great lengths to defend his position. Now, the inference to be made here is that if this is how the dead were treated, the living could hardly have been treated much better. It is not a great leap of logic to conclude that torture, rape, murder etc. were perfectly acceptable behavior in the Sri Lankan Army, which is what Blacker is really trying to say. Neither is it a great leap of logic to infer that someone who believes such behavior amounts to a preservation of sanity, is no doubt guilty of the very same atrocious behavior.
The above observations are made on the basis of the following quotation by Blacker. Read between the lines and surely you’ll reach a similar conclusion.
“I myself have helped dispose of bodies in this way, and we did make crude juvenile jokes. We were all just 19 or 20 years old, and you joke about everything if you don’t wanna go insane. Many of us had never even seen a real naked woman before, so obviously we commented, even though they were dead. It isn’t a polite tea party, but it isn’t a war crime either.”
I find this line of particular relevance to the thread: “I myself have helped dispose of bodies in this way.”
In what way? Well, after seeing the pictures at the top of this article, we need not guess. The fact that the corpses were naked and Blacker and his buddies took the time to stand around making jokes about them should leave no room for doubt in the readers’ mind.
“I find this line of particular relevance to the thread: “I myself have helped dispose of bodies in this way.””
I’m not surprised. You found Adolf Hitler relevant to every thread you’ve commented in!
“Well, after seeing the pictures at the top of this article, we need not guess.”
But my comment was not made in reference to these pictures. It was made in reference to a clip of soldiers loading bodies onto a truck :D
“Blacker and his buddies took the time to stand around making jokes about them should leave no room for doubt in the readers’ mind.”
Again, I never said we took time to do anything :D and the fact that only you seem to make this interpretation leaves no doubt about the sick mind you have (again, using the word “mind” rather generously!)
It’s hilarious that to explain and interpret a 3-line statement taken out of context and edited of the rest of the statement Unterklokommandant Heshan/Nihal/Observer has to spend weeks and write reams of nonsense, and still cannot make it understood how he wishes it. Rofl. What a pathetic retard.
Lol, why are you cutting and pasting your comments in different threads? Was this your “cunning plan” you warned us of? :D
“believes its okay for soldiers to take (cell phone) pictures of female LTTE corpses in various states of undress – as well as abuse the corpses in various other ways”
Where have I said this ever? :D Earlier, Padraig pointed out that your lack of a proper English education makes it difficult for you to distinguish between an explanation, a justification, and an excuse. We now have further confirmation of this ha ha.
“In fact, Blacker believes abusing the corpses has a therapeutic effect: to not engage in such behavior would result in a definite loss of sanity.”
As I responded already when you first made up this lie, I have never said this; and the fact that you cannot quote me doing so, proves it :D
“Now, the inference to be made here is that if this is how the dead were treated, the living could hardly have been treated much better. It is not a great leap of logic to conclude that torture, rape, murder etc.”
Certainly that inference can be made if one is retarded and familiar with “jumping” in the dark :D
“which is what Blacker is really trying to say”
Unfortunately, the fact that you need to add this explanation makes it clear that no one else but you interprets it that way :D
“Neither is it a great leap of logic to infer that someone who believes such behavior amounts to a preservation of sanity, is no doubt guilty of the very same atrocious behavior.”
Wow, you’re confessing to be a rapist?</strong? I always suspected that you were at the receiving end of the penis; but thanks for making this clear. I shall quote you widely on this.
Also thanks for admitting that there is no sign of those women being executed:
Unterklokommandant Heshan/Nihal/Observer: “Bound hands indicate restraint, not execution“.
In “Blackadder” Baldrick’s “cunning plans” always turned out to be idiotic. New name for Nihal – Baldrick.
I must protest at Baldrick being associated with a racist nutjob like Observer/Heshan. Baldrick is the modern Sancho Panza, and is one of the great British comic creations. A seeming idiot who is in fact a symbol of sanity amongst the madness of his superiors. No, Heshan is channeling Wimal Weerawansa – a perfectly formed Sinhala Modaya :)
Baldrick’s cunning plan for a bullet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACnqI1l4I9s
I retract! Nihal is a cunning stunt with a cunning plan.
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