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Does The Constitution Restrict Religious Freedom?

By Mass L. Usuf

Mass L. Usuf

Mass L. Usuf

Critical Evaluation And Democratisation Of Article (9) – Part III

A beautiful piece of legislation is seen in Article 10. It is a provision granting absolute freedom of the contents mentioned therein. This freedom is absolute because it does not fall within the purview of the restrictions placed on the exercise of fundamental rights vide. Article 15. It is an entrenched Article.

Every person is entitled to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, including the freedom to have or to adopt a religion or belief of his choice.” (Article 10).

“Religion” in Article 10 will clearly include Christianity, Islam and Hinduism. The status of Buddhism as far as religion is concerned will depend on how it is interpreted. As discussed earlier (Part I and II), it has to be clarified if it is going to be the original dhamma or the commonly used buddhagama (religion). The latter interpretation will be a deviation from the dhamma itself. It can be argued that Buddhists can be accommodated under ‘freedom of thought and conscience’.

The implication of this Article with that of others will be examined below. It must be appreciated that this is only an analytical exercise, the essence of which should not be vainly misinterpreted or distorted.

Manifesting Belief

Article 14 (1)(e) states, “Every citizen is entitled to the freedom, either by himself or in association with others, and either in public or in private, to manifest his religion or belief in worship, observance, practice or teaching.”

In addition to ‘religion’ the word ‘belief’ is mentioned here as part of the freedom to manifest. A comparative study on beliefs reveal an interesting diversity. In Christianity belief is a fundamental concept. Belief in Jesus Christ (Peace be on him) is a must for salvation. In the Book of Acts, it is stated,

“Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” (16:31).

In the Islamic creed, the notion of salvation based on belief alone is nonexistent. Belief extends to believing in the Oneness of Allah, the angels, the revealed books, the prophets and the Day of Judgment (resurrection). After this belief, one has to work towards doing righteous deeds in order to achieve felicity. Therefore, belief and doing good deeds go together. (See Chapter 103, Al Asr of the Quran).

The dhamma on the other hand is not a belief system. For example, the dhamma does not say believe in Buddha and one will be saved or attain nirvana. It is strictly based on reasoning or understanding. I believe, the wider connotation of Right View (samma dhitti) explains it all in greater details. To make an observation in passing, if the Buddhists truly understand and practice samma dhitti, Sri Lanka will be a better place to live in. Such is the value of some of the teachings of the Buddha.

As it is, Article 14 (1)(e) may not be applicable to the Buddhists in so far as ‘belief’ is concerned. He will not be able to manifest his belief in the form of worship, observance, practice or teaching simply because there is no belief system. Note there is no mention of ‘thought and conscience’ in here.

Freedom Of Religion?

Though it is hailed as an entrenched fundamental right, is there in fact, absolute freedom of religion vide. Article 10? To understand this, it will be useful to cross refer to the freedom of religion articulated in Article 14 (1)(e). This Article entitles a person to ‘manifest one’s religion or belief in worship, observance, practice or teaching’. However, the freedom enunciated under Article14 (1)(e) is not an absolute freedom it is subject to the restrictions in Article 15 (7) which states:

“The exercise and operation of all the fundamental rights declared and recognized by Articles 12, 13(1), 13(2) and 14 shall be subject to such restrictions as may be prescribed by law …..”.

The question is, “what is the purpose of an ‘absolute’ freedom of religion if such freedom can be restricted at the time of manifesting it”? Is it a case of freedom given in one Article being craftily restricted by the use of another?

If Buddhism is considered neither a religion nor a system of belief, it will certainly not be governed by Article 14 (1)(e). This would provide only to Buddhism unrestricted freedom to do anything while denying the same to the other religions. Restriction on 14 (1)(e) by Article 15 (7) will not be applicable. The principle of equality in the freedom of religion is questionable.

A relevant addendum to this is in Article 9, ‘protect … the Buddha sasana’. It is not clear against what does this duty to protect arise. This phrase is both vague and wide and is susceptible to broad or restricted interpretation. Further, this guaranteed protection is not available for the other religions. The only assurance given to the other religions in Article 9 reads, “the rights granted by Articles 10 and 14(1)(e)” which does not speak about any protection. Can this be an instance of inequality? Can it be argued that Articles 9 and 14 (1)(e) may be interpreted in a way to stultify the absolute religious freedom entrenched in Article 10?

Christian Evangelism

A religion is an institution by itself with its own scripture, identity, beliefs, rituals, worship and instructions. Therefore, freedom of religion would mean the manifestation of one’s religion or belief in worship, observance, practice or teaching. This would also mean the freedom to act according to the teachings of a religion.

In the Christian dogma evangelism is inherent and originating from that is the practice of conversion or persuading towards Christianity. In the Bible there are many references for proselytising and that is part of the faith.

Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” (Mathew 28:19-20)

Moreover, the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith writing to the Presidents of the Episcopal Conferences publishing its doctrinal notes states inter alia, “Evangelization is aimed at all humanity”. (“Doctrinal Note on some Aspects of Evangelization” 3 December 2007).

In the Indian case of Yulitha Hyde v. The State 1973 AIR Orissa 116 the issue whether conversion was part of the Christian religion was squarely before the Court. The High Court in that case observed: -“Counsel for the several petitioners have freely quoted from several Christian Scriptures of undoubted authority to show that propagating religion with a view to its spreading is part of a religious duty for every Christian and therefore must be considered as a part of the religion. Learned Government Advocate does not dispute this assertion of fact. We therefore proceed on the basis that it is the religious duty of every Christian to propagate his religion”. (H. L. de Silva, PC., addressing on ‘Constitutional protection of minority rights in Sri Lanka’. The Island, 09 October 2003).

Evangelism Restricted

Unfortunately, this aspect of the freedom to practice the Christian religion seems to have been restricted by court interpretation. Rohan Edrisinha and Asanga Welikala, citing the case below writes:

The Supreme Court of Sri Lanka has not always struck a balance that gives appropriate weight to Articles 10 and 14 (1)(e) in respect of minority religions. (Teaching Sisters of the Holy Cross of the Third Order of Saint Francis in Menzingen of Sri Lanka (Incorporation) Case (2003) SC Spl. Det. 19/2003).

The Supreme Court apparently has taken upon the notion of restrictive interpretation of this Article in the case of the Teaching Sisters. The Petitioner in this case inter alia made the following submissions with regard to propagation. “What is guaranteed under the Constitution is the manifestation, observance and practice of one’s own religion and the propagation and spreading Christianity as postulated in terms of clause 3 would not be permissible as it would impair the very existence of Buddhism or the Buddha Sasana.” (Page 7).

A tenuous submission of this nature being upheld is a matter of grave concern. Two premises worthy of consideration are:

Firstly, the argument of the Petitioner is illogical and unrealistic. How can such impairment if any, to Buddhism and the Buddha sasana be arrested in the technologically advanced state that we are in today? With the proliferation of satellite channels, the internet, satellite communications etc. propagation is taking place 24/7 not only of Christianity even of Buddhism both in Sri Lanka and in other foreign countries.

Secondly, what happens to the equality in the freedom of practice of religion? Is it that Buddhism can be propagated and spread but Christianity cannot be propagated and spread? Is it that Christians can enter the fold of Buddhism but Buddhists not given a chance to enter into Christianity? Historically, how many have entered the fold of Buddhism? Even King Asoka was a convert to Buddhism. Buddhism is universal. So are all religions – Christianity, Islam, Hinduism etc.

Islam and Samma Dhitti

Also, in the Islamic faith, there is a duty on its believers to inform others of the Oneness of God, Allah. A significant distinction in the Islamic faith is, unlike in Christianity, there is no compulsion to convert or persuade towards the religion of Islam. The Quran is very explicit on this.

There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right direction (path) is clear from the wrong.” (Chapter 2, Verse 256, The Quran).

The above Quranic verse completely refutes two false allegations. First, that in Islam there is forced conversion and second, that in order to win over converts material benefits are offered.

This verse also supports the Buddhist concept of Right View (Samma dhitti). Note the Quranic words, “the right direction (path) is clear from the wrong”. Like Buddha explains reasoning, the Quran respects the rational faculty of the respondent and permits a person to make the choice. As such, in Islam, there is no compulsion in religion. However, dissemination and teaching of knowledge relating to the doctrine of Monotheism, Oneness of God (Allah) is the foundation of Islamic teaching. The duty of a Muslim is only to convey this message of Oneness of Allah and not to convert.

Conclusion

The initial damage was done by the 1972 Constitution which opted to move towards majoritarianism, especially in the context that Sri Lanka was declared a Unitary State, Buddhism given the foremost place and Sinhala declared to be the only official language. (See: Constitutional protections since independence, Dr. Jayampathy Wickramaratne, Page 7). Since then it has been institutionalised and taken deep root in the minds of the Sinhala people.

Therefore, the current reforms are not going to be that easy. The concern is not so much for the minority views but the sensitive areas of the Sinhala Buddhists, the nationalists, the sangha and the majoritarianists. The people, the politicians and the sangha must decide between their fleeting sentiments and the wellbeing of the nation. Are you going to continue pursuing narrow agendas or will come together for the sake of the nation and its future? Especially, in relation to the Sangha, I wonder if the dhamma would approve of them playing the role of politicians, nationalists and racists, as some do. Are we going to give our children a nation divided and violent or one that is prosperous and peaceful? This is the reality and the time is now, to understand, come together and act prudently.

The damage that Sinhala majoritarian nationalism has done to this country is evident. What did the country or the Sinhala people in particular, gain by the loss of lives, property and the lost opportunity to develop the country? Is not the life of a Sinhala person also valuable as the life of a Tamil or Muslim or any other human being?

It is time that the politicians demonstrate their bravery and courage and be outstanding in history. Or, be damned for destroying this nation by pleasing Sinhala Buddhist nationalism, majoritarianism and partisan politics. President’s Counsel Mr. Jayampathy Wickramaratne, MP, reminds us of two opportunities, in 1972 and 1978, that this country sadly missed in constitution making that could have been truly representative and all encompassing. Here, now, is another golden opportunity that has presented itself.

The path is clear for the discerning and the wise minded.

1. Out of the six recommendations made by members of the PRCCR regarding Article 9, three were against continuing with Article 9, Buddhism. They wanted a secular constitution. (Page 19, PRCCR Report).

Secularism is a principle that involves the strict separation of the state from religious institutions and where people of different religions and beliefs are equal before the law.

2. The late Dr. Colvin R.de Silva on the special status accorded to Buddhism in the 1972 constitution, stated in retrospect:

“….I wish to say, I believe in a secular state.” (C.R. De Silva (1987) Safeguards for the Minorities in the 1972 Constitution)

3. The Supreme Court held that Sri Lanka is a secular state:

“It has to be firmly borne in mind that Sri Lanka is a secular State. In terms of Article 3 of the Constitution, Sovereignty is in the People at common devoid of any divisions based on perceptions of race religion language and the like. (S.C. Application No.38/2005(FR), 9 November 2007).

4. The politicization of religious rights by the majority community creates an additional minority besides ethnic minorities and that is, a religious minority. The wordings of Article 9, is clearly pregnant with this idea of Buddhism being made pre-eminent.

“Sri Lanka’s success in drafting, ratifying, and deploying legal regimes of religious rights has led to the further ossification of the very conflicts they were intended to arbitrate”. (Constitutionalizing religion: Benjamin Schonthal, Lecturer in Buddhism, University of Otago, New Zealand).

5. With regard to the role of the State:

“The Court has frequently emphasised the State’s role as the neutral and impartial organiser of the exercise of various religions, faiths and beliefs, and stated that this role is conducive to public order, religious harmony and tolerance in a democratic society.” (Applications Nos. 41340/98, 41342/98, 41343/98 and 41344/98, European Court of Human Rights).

6. Moving away from parochial racist nationalism to a common humanity.

“Yet, at the start of the new millennium, we are also seeing the gradual emergence of an awareness throughout the world of our common humanity and the planet as a whole rather than simply the sum of its parts. The idea here is not to replace the nation state but to adapt it to be more responsive to human needs in new global conditions.” (Globalization and the nation state by Jayantha Dhanapala. Journal of International Environmental Law and Policy, University of Colorado).

Crowning Statement

This then calls for a balancing of values held by a nation with the growing new global phenomenon of diversity. A broader engagement is necessitated to seek alternative common grounds for people to converge away from purely racial or religious labels. A common factor which will cohesively integrate the connection between social citizenship and pluralism. The answer to me is simple and as old as creation itself. The base can stand on the principle of “humanity” with the space of each respected. This would be the new challenge for a democratic set up with a multi-cultural and multi-religious background.

The crowning statement is that of Dr. Nihal Jayawickrema, former Permanent Secretary to the Ministry of Justice (The Sunday Island, 15th July 2007) who has been very critical:

If Buddhism had survived in the hearts and minds of the people through nearly five centuries of foreign occupation, a constitutional edict was hardly necessary to protect it now.

Postscript: I have not discussed comparative jurisprudence as envisaged since this is already too long.

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    Mr. Usuf:

    All these three religions existed for than 1400 years at least. 2600 years ago, Sri lanka did not have either christianity or Islam. when you talk these things, you need to consider the whole history.

    Both religions that came from the middle east are not peaceful as buddhism is. Buddhism believes live and let live.

    Both Islam, and christianity believes in conversion. YOu know about Catholic Crusades and Islamic conquests. Islam is a religion that was presecuted heaviliy by other arab tribes. Christianity also had a period to kill their own and thereafter islam versus catholics.

    If you know the Asian history, indian history you know how Muslims slaughtered buddhists and HIndus. YOu know the present situation of minority religions in the majority muslim countries.

    You know, even in Sri lanka, how aggressive and conniving the muslims and christians are.

    What do tyou think, if the constitution also does not help buddhism ?

    At present, every where in the world, Muslims use petro dollars and country’s own system to islamize the whole world. Europe has understood it. Asia is feeling it.

    It is like, even though we are not Jewish, we eat Kosher foods.

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      jim softy

      “All these three religions existed for than 1400 years at least. 2600 years ago, Sri lanka did not have either christianity or Islam. when you talk these things, you need to consider the whole history.”

      Buddhism came to Lanka, the land of Native Veddah Aethho, 2,300 years ago.

      So, these Para-Beliefs, Buddhism, Islam and Christianity are all Para-Beliefs, introduced by the Paras, to the Land of Native Veddah Aethho. None of them have validity for their beliefs.

      All they gave is system yo brainwash the people from a very young age, and keep the Monks, Priests and Mullah is a Hegemonic position.

      They All practice child abuse, in various forms, based on traditions.

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        Amarasiri:

        You have mixed buddhists with buddhism.

        Learn to think.

        Every Muslims is not allah or Every christian is Not Jesus.

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      Mass L. Usuf

      RE: Does The Constitution Restrict Religious Freedom?

      //3. The Supreme Court held that Sri Lanka is a secular state:

      “It has to be firmly borne in mind that Sri Lanka is a secular State. In terms of Article 3 of the Constitution, Sovereignty is in the People at common devoid of any divisions based on perceptions of race religion language and the like. (S.C. Application No.38/2005(FR), 9 November 2007).//

      So, why is the State allowing the Muslim Marriage and Divorce act to abuse Muslim Women and Girls, based on the 1,400 year old Arab tribal traditions, that are in conflict with the secular state and the Constitution?

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        Mass L. Usuf

        RE: Does The Constitution Restrict Religious Freedom?

        One Saudi Says: “Let us stop false preachers”

        What about the False Preachers in Sri Lanka? In India? Elsewhere?

        Turki Al-Dakheel

        In Islam, preaching aims to instill noble values in our minds and purify our souls. It helps us to stop and think about the wrongful acts we might have done and ponder over our conduct. Islamic history contains a host of renowned preachers, such as Ibrahim Bin Adham, Ibn Al-Jawzi and Hassan Al-Basri.

        Preachers remind us of the importance of doing good deeds and help us get rid of evil inclinations. However, some people who pose as preachers might ruin the real meaning of preaching. Historically speaking, scholars talked and complained about the appearance of false and pretentious preachers who promoted myths, lies and illusions and made the public believe them. Such false preachers who were ignorant proved to be dangerous in terms of promulgating false ideas. Allowing those fake preachers to talk in public places will definitely lead the public to believe in myths and will probably take away the meaning of purifying the soul from preaching.

        Sheikh Ali Al-Tantawi, a renowned Muslim scholar who died in 1999, once said: “I have seen members of the public wearing Muslim turbans and growing long beards holding religious sessions inside the Damascus Mosque and pretending that they were educated preachers. They are simply ignorant and do not have any profound Shariah knowledge. I have seen renowned scholars, muftis and judges pass by the religious sessions held by these false preachers and say nothing, not even criticize them. I am sure if any of these false preachers did something wrong to those renowned scholars, then they would be severely criticized for it. Were personal interests more important to the renowned scholars than defending religion?”

        http://saudigazette.com.sa/opinion/local-viewpoint/let-us-stop-false-preachers/

        Stupidest Muslim Vs Neil Tyson – How ideology can ruin intellectual power

        Published on Nov 10, 2014
        This is not a debate between some Muslim and Neil Tyson. But this video shows the thinking of some very well educated 21’st century Muslim (I don’t know he is ignorant, stupid or dishonest. But he is one for sure) and Neil Tyson speaking in a lecture about how Muslims intellectual power ruined by an ideology.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyCxrL9-C84

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    right now, muslims are abusing the system all over the world to islamize the world. govts should understand that.

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    Mass L. Usuf

    RE: Does The Constitution Restrict Religious Freedom?

    “Every person is entitled to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, including the freedom to have or to adopt a religion or belief of his choice.” (Article 10)

    1. There should be separation of Religion, Church, Temple, Mosque and State.

    2. Citizen’s constitutional rights to treated equally under the law should be above the religious rights.

    3. The Citizen’s rights cannot be different for the various religious groups.

    4. The Religious groups should have the freedom to preach their beliefs,false and otherwise, in the absence of confirmed scientific data.

    Has anybody reported back from Nirvanna, Nibbana and Heaven yet?

    Now, lets, get back to the Slavery and Chattel Sri Lankan Muslim Marriages,
    The Muslim Marriage and Divorce Act of 1951.

    However, according to the Sri Lankan Muslim Marriage and Divorce act:

    1. Women are considered Chattel, owned by the Wali, Guardian, and when she is married off the Guardian signs the women off, just like one transfers the property.

    2. The woman, bride, does not sign the marriage contract.

    3. The consent of the women is not recorded in writing in the presence of witnesses and a Justice of Peace.

    4. Any Sri Lankan Muslim girl over 12 years of age can be married off with or without her consent.

    5. If the Muslim girl is below 12 years old, they can take to a Qazi Judge, and he can give permission to marry, the girl, as low as 1 day old.

    All the non-Muslim girls in Sri Lanka are not subject to these abuses. Why?

    All the Sri Lankan Muslim girls shoyld have the same constitutional rights as the non-Muslim girls. They can have ant belief, based on their brainwashing about after life.

    There are enough qualified Muslim women in the country who are all subject to the above 5 rules currently. That is what that need change now.

    So, a lawsuit need to be filed against The Muslim Marriage and Divorce Act of 1951, showing that it is unconstitutional as it discriminates Muslim girls and women.

    Same with the recruitment of Samaneras, young Monk novices. This is child abuse, irrespective of the Child Abuse by Buddha on his son Rahula.

    …..When the talk had finished and the Buddha left, Rahula followed him, and as they walked along Rahula said: “Give me my inheritance, O Monk.” Of course the Buddha no longer had gold or property but he had something far more precious – the Dharma, so he turned to Sariputta and ordered Sariputta, ordain Rahula, who became first Śrāmaṇera….

    The First Buddhist case of Child Abuse, and was followed by the millions of more cases….. based on Tradition….

    Child marriages and child ordinations are the same… Child Abuse!

    Does Religion promote Child Abuse? Isn’t it the duty of the state to protect the Children from the Religious Nuts?

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    Islamic logic

    According to your religion I have the freedom to practise my religion. According to my religion I have the freedom to kill you. Therefore according to your own religion I have the freedom to kill you.

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      jim softy

      “All these three religions existed for than 1400 years at least. 2600 years ago, Sri lanka did not have either christianity or Islam. when you talk these things, you need to consider the whole history.”

      Buddhism came to Lanka, the land of Native Veddah Aethho, 2,300 years ago.

      So, these Para-Beliefs, Buddhism, Islam and Christianity are all Para-Beliefs, introduced by the Paras, to the Land of Native Veddah Aethho. None of them have validity for their beliefs.

      All they gave is system yo brainwash the people from a very young age, and keep the Monks, Priests and Mullah is a Hegemonic position.

      They All practice child abuse, in various forms, based on traditions.

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    Civilisational responsibility of non Muslims is to phase out Islam with least damage to Muslims. A gigantuan task which may take even 500 years or more as brainwashed maniacs are sure to put up a ferocious fight and employ every trick in the book. We must free ourselves from the shackles of political correctness and extend our support the lead taken by tiny Israel.

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      Mosques are the major problem.

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        jim softy

        The Devil, Satan, Iblis following Wahhabies, Salafis, ISIS, ISIL, Talibans,Boko Harams, Islamists and their clones AND the Wahhabi Saudi Arabia are the Major problems.

        It is like in Buddhism. Those who follow Buddha is NOT the Problem.

        The problem is with those “Buddhists” who follow Mara, such as Sinhala “Buddhists’ and those who follow Mara MaRa ChaTu MaRa, that is the problem.

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        The loudspeaker must definitely go. ASAP.

        Soma

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          soma

          “The loudspeaker must definitely go. ASAP.”

          Yes.

          The Prophetic Tradition did not use Loudspeakers. Loudspeakers are a Modern Western Invention.

          Are the Muslims following Double Standards when it comes to Loudspeakers?

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            It is called Aggression.

            What is in quran comes mostly from Hebrew bible. So, they loud speak the Hebrew bible.

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        May be in the Sinhalese south not in the north and east it is Budda statues and Buddhist temples sprouting up everywhere, especially on former Hindu shrines and on lands belonging to Hindu temples. In Killinochchi the Sri Lankan military is building a huge Buddhist Vihara in historic Hindu temple premises. Genocidal Sinhala military is constructing concrete structures surrounding a Buddha statue erected by it inside Kanakaampikai-Amman temple.

        Unlike the Budda statues and Budda temples that are now sprouting everywhere in the North and East,Mosques and churches are not built on lands belonging to Hindu temple or on their ruins. Mosques have never been an issue to us, as these Tamil Muslims of the North East are part of our landscape and culture

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          Paul-Real Siva Sankaran Sarma

          “May be in the Sinhalese south not in the north and east it is Budda statues and Buddhist temples sprouting up everywhere, especially on former Hindu shrines and on lands belonging to Hindu temples.”

          The Para-Sinhala Para-Buddhists must plant coconut or jack fruit tress instead of Buddha statues, in the land of Native Beddah Aethho.

          Buddha never asked that statues be panted and worshiped!

          This is Para-Sinhala Para-Buddhism, as practiced in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho.

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          real siva

          you must be a man with very short memories.you go there batticoloa and find out what muslim politicians done to the land belong to Hindu temples.you should remember more recently your veil parade was barred by Muslims and Buddhist monks had to intervene on your behalf. anyway I do not talk on incidents took place in war time. how Muslim militia harassed Tamil Hindus in the east how many times our forces had to intervene for your rescue.

          anyway yes we are building temples in our old kingdoms.north was part and parcel of our rajarata kingdom and east was part and parcel of our ruhuna. those days every where in north and east Buddhists temples existed. as such we sinhala Buddhists have every rights to regain our lost heritages due to chola, pandyan and other Tamil invasions.even in jaffna peninsula situation was same until sankiliI killed all the sinhalese destroyed Buddhist temples at the instructions of haughty pandyan refugees who came here to avoid forced conversion and taking ladies sex slave by invasion forces of Delhi sultanate. until Dutch period kandyan maha vanni vauniya and mulathive district now peasant gone to jaffna peninsula for chena cultivation. some have tamilized but treated as very low caste people.

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      Socrates

      Among Muslims, there are two groups.

      Those who follow God, and those who follow the Devil, Satan, Iblis.

      The Ordinary Moderate Muslims, who lives and lets other’s live follow God, and do not take things out of context, based on what happened 1,400 years ago. They use Reason, and are NOT blind and do NOT Follow Revelation, if it was in conflict with Reason, Observations and Data.

      Examples are those who accept the Theory of Evolution, and not the Adam and Eve Story-Fable believed by the Fundamentalist Muslims, Christians and Jews, and those who accept that the Earth goes around the Sun. Hello Galileo!

      Those who Follow the Devil, Iblis, Satan are the Wahhabies, Salafis, ISIS, ISIL, Taliban, Boko Haram, and their clones.

      Devil (Islam)

      The primary characteristic of the Devil is hubris. His primary activity is to incite humans and jinn to commit evil through deception, which is referred to as “whispering into the hearts”. The Quran mentions that Satans are the assistants of those who disbelieve in God: “We have made the evil ones friends to those without faith.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_(Islam)

      Wahhabi, Devil, sack of Karbala

      The Wahhabi sack of Karbala occurred in 21 April 1802 (1216 Hijri), under the rule of Abdul-Aziz bin Muhammad the second ruler of the First Saudi State, when 12000 Wahhabis attacked the city of Karbala[1] killing above 5000 of the inhabitants and plundered the tomb of Husayn ibn Ali (grandson of Muhammad and son of Ali bin Abu Talib (the cousin and son-in-law of Muhammad)) which was destroyed.

      According to a Wahhabi chronicler `Uthman b. `Abdullah b. Bishr: “The Muslims” — as the Wahhabis referred to themselves, not feeling the need to distinguish themselves from other Muslims, since they did not believe them to be Muslims —

      scaled the walls, entered the city … and killed the majority of its people in the markets and in their homes. [They] destroyed the dome placed over the grave of al-Husayn [and took] whatever they found inside the dome and its surroundings … the grille surrounding the tomb which was encrusted with emeralds, rubies, and other jewels … different types of property, weapons, clothing, carpets, gold, silver, precious copies of the Qur’an.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi_sack_of_Karbala

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        Socrates

        Among Muslims, there are two groups.

        Those who follow God, have reason and common sense ,and those who follow the Devil, Satan, Iblis, and have no-reason and have stupidity.

        An Example is given below.

        Stupidest Muslim Vs Neil Tyson – How ideology can ruin intellectual power.

        How many Chromosomes does the Stupid Muslim have? 46? 48? What about Chromosome #2?

        Published on Nov 10, 2014
        This is not a debate between some Muslim and Neil Tyson. But this video shows the thinking of some very well educated 21’st century Muslim (I don’t know he is ignorant, stupid or dishonest. But he is one for sure) and Neil Tyson speaking in a lecture about how Muslims intellectual power ruined by an ideology.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyCxrL9-C84

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    Just last week a Muslim elder of 65 married a young girl of 9 years in spite of her tears and distress. The parents pushed the girl into marriage because Elder Groom was of high standing and the brides family were poor.The groom got permission from the Quasi courts .

    In parliament when the matter was discussed as a fundamental right the Muslim Congress Leader said it is in the Qu-ran and to change Muslim law is blasphemy!
    So be careful any one talking about reform may have a fatwa against him.

    So do not mess with Islam!!!

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      Is it possible to give me more details of this case. Where and when did it happen. I have a feeling that this sort of thing doesn’t happen now. I will be really grateful to you for giving more details

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      Is it possible to give me the date of the discussion.It should have been discussed very recently as you have mentioned this marriage took place last week – thank you

      “In parliament when the matter was discussed as a fundamental right the Muslim Congress Leader said it is in the Qu-ran and to change Muslim law is blasphemy! So be careful any one talking about reform may have a fatwa against him.”

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      Liverpool Sudda

      “In parliament when the matter was discussed as a fundamental right the Muslim Congress Leader said it is in the Qu-ran and to change Muslim law is blasphemy!”

      In Bbngla Desh, a majority Muslim Country, it is NOT Blasphamy. It is Civilization.

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    Mass L. Usuf

    RE: Does The Constitution Restrict Religious Freedom?

    //3. The Supreme Court held that Sri Lanka is a secular state:

    “It has to be firmly borne in mind that Sri Lanka is a secular State. In terms of Article 3 of the Constitution, Sovereignty is in the People at common devoid of any divisions based on perceptions of race religion language and the like. (S.C. Application No.38/2005(FR), 9 November 2007).//

    So, why is the State allowing the Muslim Marriage and Divorce act to abuse Muslim Women and Girls, based on the 1,400 year old Arab tribal traditions, that are in conflict with the secular state and the Constitution?

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    A misrepresentation in this article of the concept of belief in Christianity impelled me to write this comment in correction of the error.

    After quoting the New Testament passage of Acts 16:31, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household,” Mass L. Usuf writes,

    Quote

    In the Islamic creed, the notion of salvation based on belief alone is nonexistent. Belief extends to believing in the Oneness of Allah, the angels, the revealed books, the prophets and the Day of Judgment (resurrection). After this belief, one has to work towards doing righteous deeds in order to achieve felicity. Therefore, belief and doing good deeds go together. (See Chapter 103, Al Asr of the Quran).

    Taking Acts 16:31 in isolation, Usuf thinks that salvation in Christianity is based merely on faith in Jesus Christ. Such an idea is totally contrary to Christianity as taught in the New Testament, the only reliable source for the original teachings of Jesus and his first century followers. In authentic first century Christianity, belief in Jesus is taught as a prerequisite for salvation because he is the way to God (John 14:6). Jesus was so named because he was to deliver his people from their sins (Matthew 1:21) by his teachings and the power of the example of his life and death. The righteousness acceptable to the God of the Bible is achieved by emulation of the life of Jesus, who, in his moral nature and character, is the image and glory of God (2 Corinthians 4:6; Colossians 1:15; Hebrews 1:3 et al).

    Based on such biblical passages as Acts 16:31, many non-Christians have reached the same erroneous conclusion regarding Christian salvation as Usuf despite the the fact that the New Testament is replete with passages which teach obedience to the (moral) commandments of God as a prerequisite to attaining to the Christian reward (e.g., 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:21). Jesus himself taught that entrance into eternal life is conditional on keeping God’s commandments (Matthew 19:17). This situation is not helped by “Christian” preachers who teach and promote the heresy of salvation by faith alone, which is nowhere taught in the Bible. This heresy, which in its modern incarnation can be traced back to Martin Luther with his slogan sola fide (faith alone), was known in the first century and raised sufficient concern to the writer of the epistle of James to address it. He wrote, inter alia, “… [F]aith, if it has no works, is dead” and “…[F]aith without works is useless” (James 2:17, 20).

    Incidentally, the notion of salvation through a vicarious atonement by Jesus, which, again, is commonly taught in Christendom, is without biblical foundation and based on faulty exegesis of the Bible. This is not the time and place to refute this heresy.

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    suicides..#blameislam.. Child marriage #blamequran..Marry more than one ..#blameprophet.. Ohh the ignorant “civilized” humans !!!

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    Every religions has its own personal as well as collective goals.Indian’s religions concentrate on personal goals rather than collective goals but Abrahamic religions set a side personal goals and concentrate on collective goals like conquering whole world and getting every inhabitant to submit to their almighty god. through out the history of human beings struggle was that.it came as holy war, crusade ,civilization of heathnists but Indian religions given full freedom to human being to select their own destiny .Abrahamic religion has it own laws and judiciary systems to go for their collective goals.as such all religions can not be treated as equal.selection option should be given to citizen but every body should be placed under one rule. these rules should not be mended as per holy books of religions or their individual rules or judiciary system mentioned in their religion’s books said to be holiest to respect followers.secularism is to govern every body under very justifiable rules and regulation with impartiality.Mending countries rules and regulations to suit or appease religious minorities is not secularism. granting religion freedom is one thing but absorptions of primitive garbage in to our judiciary system is very dangerous thing.as such religion freedom definition should be interpreted with uttermost care since those primitive garbage are part and parcels of Abrahamic religion practices.

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    Amarasiri

    I challenge you to prove with scientific evidence like genetic distance or affinity test results that ancestors of vannila aththo Australoid homo sapience landed here well before ancestors of tribes yakka, raksha and devas Caucasoid homo sapience landed here. roots of both Australoid and Caucasoids came here. yes evolution did not take placed here or Indian sub continent, no evidance at all but rock and metal periods evidences available in southern coastal line and in western hill sides. evolution evidences available nearest place is Andaman Island. prove your theory para sinhala Buddhists with scientific evidences. like in Sumatra Island our ancestors were animists before arrival of Buddhism we practice Buddhism mixed with our ancestors. show me any suthra of Buddha opposing such practices. mind your language. I do not know who you are. you do not have any rights to condemn our practicing of Buddhism the way we want the way we think right and appropriate. .

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      Liverpool Sudda

      “In parliament when the matter was discussed as a fundamental right the Muslim Congress Leader said it is in the Qu-ran and to change Muslim law is blasphemy!”

      In Bbngla Desh, a majority Muslim Country, it is NOT Blasphamy. It is Civilization.

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      ranjith

      If available data supports a particular, indication, hypothesis or theory, one needs to go with the most likely explanation. An example is the Geocentric model of Aristotle and Ptolemy and the Helio-Centric model of Copernicus, and the elliptical orbits of Kepler, which the Catholic Church opposed. based on “divine’ revelation.

      What does the Data say? Between 25,000 and 8,000 years ago, during the last ice-age, the sea levels were low, as low as 100 meters, and there was a land-bridge between India and the Land of Native Veddah Aethho, just like between North America and the Asian continent.

      Where was Buddhism then? Buddha wasn’t even born. His ancestors were hunter- gathers. So, both Sinhala and Tamil, as well others are Paras, including the Para beliefs, religions, such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, , Christianity etc.

      Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations

      Journal of Human Genetics (2014) 59, 28–36; doi:10.1038/jhg.2013.112; published online 7 November 2013

      Abstract

      Located only a short distance off the southernmost shore of the Greater Indian subcontinent, the island of Sri Lanka has long been inhabited by various ethnic populations. Mainly comprising the Vedda, Sinhalese (Up- and Low-country) and Tamil (Sri Lankan and Indian); their history of settlements on the island and the biological relationships among them have remained obscure. It has been hypothesized that the Vedda was probably the earliest inhabitants of the area, followed by Sinhalese and Tamil from the Indian mainland. This study, in which 271 individuals, representing the Sri Lankan ethnic populations mentioned, were typed for their mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) hypervariable segment 1 (HVS-1) and part of hypervariable segment 2 (HVS-2), provides implications for their settlement history on the island. From the phylogenetic, principal coordinate and analysis of molecular variance results, the Vedda occupied a position separated from all other ethnic people of the island, who formed relatively close affiliations among themselves, suggesting a separate origin of the former.

      The haplotypes and analysis of molecular variance revealed that Vedda people’s mitochondrial sequences are more related to the Sinhalese and Sri Lankan Tamils’ than the Indian Tamils’ sequences. MtDNA haplogroup analysis revealed that several West Eurasian haplogroups as well as Indian-specific mtDNA clades were found amongst the Sri Lankan populations.

      Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.

      http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v59/n1/full/jhg2013112a.html

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        No you are completely wrong. you are judging every thing completely wrong assumption. vannila aththo community here genetically more closer to community negrito live in Andaman islands than any community live here. their skull and borns analysis revealed that very equal to Australoid race. Sea level between all the continents not like now around 175,000 years ago. as such there is a big possibility that our ancestors migrated here from Australia region and central Asian region. as such our ancestors were Caucasoid and Australoid. habitation of India is same story. as such Indians and our people might have still retained genetic affinities of our ancestors. other than that there is no big migration from India to here in early days of human habitation.recent analysis revealed that people inhabited in south western coastal line and beyond are very similar to Australoid features.Still origin of Australoid and other races are being debated.no final conclusion arrived at as yet. as such your para theory is a false one.anyway it is true that around 150,000 years ago some human habitation existed here as per somadeva’s research and analysis.more and more skeleton are being unearth en from rock caves situated in western hill slope of the Island. some are more than hundred and twenty five thousand years old as per carbon analysis.

        genetic affinity reports you quoted are bullshits.to establish genetic affinities of one another take at least fifty years dedicated research.first you have to select two communities as per selection criterion as per their facial and skull safes. further their behavior pattern should be studied for some times.that is how those research has to be carried out. not for just to present theists for doctorates.like Indian do.most of the genetic affinity reports on people of Indian subcontinent in Internet are Indian authors. those are bullshits nothing else.

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      Amarasiri is an idiot and try to fool people. Certain things he writes shows very well he doe snot know what he is tlking and he does not try to write something that any one can accept.

      See his comment written below. He uses his own ideas and names of published journals to write crap.

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        jim softy

        The biggest problem Amarasiri has is educating Idiots. They are widespread and everywhere. One can get a gauge of that by looking at the Average national IQ scores of countries.

        The Average IQ of Sri Lanka dominated by the Sinhala-“Buddhist” and other Paras is 79, whereas the Average IQ of Singapore, Japan and South Korea are 108, 106, and 105 respectively, even though they are “Buddhist”.

        The Low IQ of the local Paras. Para-Sinhala, Para-Tamils and Para-Muslims, shows up frequently in the CT comments.

        National IQ Scores – Country Rankings

        http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html

        What fraction of the Para-Idiots still believe that the Sun goes around the Earth?

        1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Survey Says

        1 In 2 Paras Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, if surveyed

        http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/02/14/277058739/1-in-4-americans-think-the-sun-goes-around-the-earth-survey-says

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    Hey Usuf;
    You have stated;

    “If Buddhism is considered neither a religion nor a system of belief, it will certainly not be governed by Article 14 (1)(e). This would provide only to Buddhism unrestricted freedom to do anything while denying the same to the other religions. Restriction on 14 (1)(e) by Article 15 (7) will not be applicable. The principle of equality in the freedom of religion is questionable.”

    You are absolutely correct because Sri Lanka is a Buddhist country. Similarly; Saudi Arabia ,Oman, UAE, Kuwait, Iraq, Iran and Bangladesh are classified and specifically stated as Islamic or Muslim countries. It is stated in their constitution and Non-Muslims living in those countries do not challenge their constitution. These countries also do not recognize any other religion and do not respect any other religion or their practices. You, the product of Baduddin Mohammed’s Pro-Muslim Education project, has become bold enough to question the Pre-Eminent on Numero-Uno position given to Buddhism. It is the country of Sinhala Buddhists, don’t forget we have not restricted religious freedom for your Tamil Speaking Muslim minority. You dirty fellows do not have the courtesy to offer the same privilege to Muslims in Islamic countries.
    So please take your perverted legal mumbo jumbo and see whether your Muslim brethren in Saudi Arabia ,Oman, UAE, Kuwait, Iraq, Iran and Bangladesh agree with you.
    Try to live in your adopted country with respect to Sinhala People and their religion.

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    As per Abrahamic religions like Cristian and Islam-ism there is no standard available to compare out side or within their holy books that were said to be revelations of their Almighty God or Gods. nobody can question its contents. additions or deletions are not possible at all. whatever stated in their holy books has to be accepted as final .as such holy books of theirs violate freedom of thoughts of the people.But Indian religions anybody can questioned any contents of its teaching. Acceptance or rejections as per people visions. those religions does not force anybody to accept of their idealism or philosophy.If Abrahamic religions given full freedom one can question teaching of scientifically proven theories or concepts in our schools or universities as some theories are challenges to fundamentals of those ABRAHAMIC religions.like human evolution theory. Even people may be barred from wearing time measurement equipments like watches as those equipment are made with assumption that world is like globe. it spin or rotate on it own axis and revolve around the sun. that is how day and night break. one can challenge those two assumptions at court saying that it violate fundamental teachings of their holy books what is revealed by their almighty.as such equipments existence in public and usage of them may violate their rights of freedom of faith.like halal food case, government might to be able to adhere to internationally accepted norms of slaughtering animals.As per existing rule of law before slaughtering cattle veterinary surgeon has to issue certificate checking conditions of that cow but nobody care for rules. slaughter animals any where any time they wanted. it is just like animals slaughtering chamber everywhere, Evey corner of the country. no discipline at all.most of the other rules are violated saying those are not applicable to them by some section of Muslims. beheading non believers may be the order of the day for criticizing their god and apostle. we saw such indications from well known Muslim politicians. then where is freedom of exercising fundamental rights.establishing one right of one particular minority may violate fundamental right of majority.that is not secularism.it may be like Iringu deela miris gatta wage.

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      ranjith

      “As per Abrahamic religions like Cristian and Islam-ism there is no standard available to compare out side or within their holy books that were said to be revelations of their Almighty God or Gods. nobody can question its contents. additions or deletions are not possible at all. “

      They say, “Holy” Books cannot be corrected, because they are revealed, by almighty God. and MUST be accepted as such,and revelation is always above Reason, Common sense and observations.They will not accept that it was written by men even with data and very good supporting evidence.

      The presence or absence of Heaven,m Hell, Purgatory, Nirvana, Nibbana, Rebirth, Apaya, etc. has yet to be proven. They were all mental constructs.

      Example 1:

      1. Catholic Church , Geo-Centric Model, and Jashua Sun Being stopped for a day, as it goes around the Earth.

      Joshua 10:13
      King James Bible

      And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

      ALTERNATE VIEW: Halio-Centric Model of Copernicus, Galileo and Kepler.

      Example 2:

      2. Genesis 2:4-3:24 New International Version (NIV)

      https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2%3A4-3%3A24

      This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, when the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.

      5 Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth[a] and no plant had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground, 6 but streams[b] came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground. 7 Then the Lord God formed a man[c] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

      But for Adam[f] no suitable helper was found. 21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs[g] and then closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib[h] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

      23 The man said,

      “This is now bone of my bones
      and flesh of my flesh;
      she shall be called ‘woman,’
      for she was taken out of man.”
      24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.

      25 Adam and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.

      12 The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”

      13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

      The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

      14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,

      “Cursed are you above all livestock
      and all wild animals!
      You will crawl on your belly
      and you will eat dust
      all the days of your life.
      15 And I will put enmity
      between you and the woman,
      and between your offspring[i] and hers;
      he will crush[j] your head,
      and you will strike his heel.”
      16 To the woman he said,

      “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
      with painful labor you will give birth to children.
      Your desire will be for your husband,
      and he will rule over you.”
      17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’

      “Cursed is the ground because of you;
      through painful toil you will eat food from it
      all the days of your life.
      18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
      and you will eat the plants of the field.
      19 By the sweat of your brow
      you will eat your food
      until you return to the ground,
      since from it you were taken;
      for dust you are
      and to dust you will return.”
      20 Adam[k] named his wife Eve,[l] because she would become the mother of all the living.

      23 So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side[m] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

      ALTERNATE VIEW:

      Ken Miller on Human Evolution

      Uploaded on Feb 14, 2007
      Dr. Ken Miller talks about the relationship between Homo sapiens and the other primates. He discusses a recent finding of the Human Genome Project which identifies the exact point of fusion of two primate chromosomes that resulted in human chromosome #2.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk

      Stupidest Muslim Vs Neil Tyson – How ideology can ruin intellectual power

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyCxrL9-C84

      Published on Nov 10, 2014
      This is not a debate between some Muslim and Neil Tyson. But this video shows the thinking of some very well educated 21’st century Muslim (I don’t know he is ignorant, stupid or dishonest. But he is one for sure) and Neil Tyson speaking in a lecture about how Muslims intellectual power ruined by an ideology.

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        Amarasiri

        you talk on two groups of Muslims or Islamist. what are the standard available you to separate these two groups.Both groups accept koran as their guide line, Mohammad as apostle and Allah as their Almighty.All trying to live up to ideals mentioned in holy book. most of the leaders like president of turkey say. there is no different groups in Islamic faith. All are Muslims. but here you talk on two groups with out any standard. are you the father of Allah ??? ISIS are so called wahhabist and sunni as there is no standard and all Muslims accept Saudi as holiest land. no issue with their policies. we can assume that all sunni muslims are ISIS terrorists. as such Islam religion here should be banned before it grow like LTTE terror group demanding imposition of their laws and way of life.Otherwise we may have to fight long war like previous 30 years..

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          ranjith

          “most of the leaders like president of turkey say. there is no different groups in Islamic faith. All are Muslims. “

          He is correct. Why?

          Definition of Islam, is somebody who submits to the will of One God.

          They have to accept that there is No God, but God. Then they are called Muslims. So, there were Muslims, before Prophet Mohamed. The Muslims claim that Abraham was a Muslim.

          So, if a Person Submits to the Will of God and accepts that there is One God, then he is Muslim, by definition, irrespective of what Wahhabies and their clones say.

          However, for the Wahhabies, Salafis, ISIS, Taliban etc. use a different definition. Their definition of a Muslim is one who does not subscribe to their Theology, Wahhabism. So, who wants that? the Devil,Iblis, Satan. Therefore, Wahhabies and their clones are followers and Agents of the Devil,Iblis, Satan.

          The other enemy of Wahhabies and their clones is Reason, yeas Reason and Philosophy, because these expose the Wahhabies and their clones.

          Wahhabies and their clones such as ISIS, want to kill Muslims, Shia, Sufi, Ahmedia and even Suni Muslims who do not subscribe to their Satanic theology.

          References:

          al-azhar cleric about wahabis/salafis

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAvWmZfGjTU

          Published on Apr 18, 2015
          Al Azhar Sheikh shia are Muslims, Wahabi Salafi’s are Extremist

          Al Azhar Sheikh shia are Muslims, Wahabi Salafi’s are Extremist

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69z-PHiqOiU

          Sheikh Azhar anti wahabi

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZQqRrcoK9c

          Hadith of Najd

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Najd

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          ranjith

          “Muslims accept Saudi as holiest land. “

          Many also think that Wahhabi Saudi Arabia Follows the Iblis, Devil, Satan, as per Hadith of Najd.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Najd

          They also accept a lot of other myths, that have no support, just like the others, Jews and Sinhala Buddhists.

          As far as Amarasiri knows, based on research so far, there is no concept of Holy Land. However, there is a pilgrimage, Haj Pilgrimage, that was later defined as Holy, as per Quran. It is an Invention of the Tribal Arabs to name the whole of Arabia Holy. It is like the Jews, ( Israel- Holy Land, but they are actually Paras in Israel, there were Canaanites ans Amorites before), and Sinhala Buddhists, Monk Mahanama,a Sinhala Buddhist Island, white the original natives were Native Veddah Aethho.

          Furthermore, when the Tribal Arabs expanded, they restricted Islam, only to Arabs. It was only after 700 CE, the non-Arabs were allowed to be Muslims, and accepted as Muslims. The driving fotce for the non-Arabs to be Muslims were:

          1. Higher Taxes compered to Muslims.

          2. Non-interference in their various beliefs, like the Byzantines were doing.

          3. Since the Arabs who became Muslims were winning wars, the subjugated population began to believe that God was behind the Muslims.

          “we can assume that all sunni muslims are ISIS terrorists.”

          Only those Sunni Muslims who accept Wahhabism are likely to turn into ISIS terrorists.However, 95% of the Sunni Muslims do not accept Wahhabism, and 100% of Sufi, Shai and Ahmedia Muslims, d not accept Wahhabism and ISIS.

          Can you assume that all Tamils are LTTE terrorists.? No!

          Can you assume that all Sinhala Buddhists are Sinhala “Buddhist” terrorists? No!

          This is where intelligence an critical thinking mattress.

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      ranjith

      //The presence or absence of Heaven,m Hell, Purgatory, Nirvana, Nibbana, Rebirth, Apaya, etc. has yet to be proven. They were all mental constructs.//

      Religion: A Mental Construct? Apr
      27

      “In recent years a host of brain researchers have been exploring and conjecturing as to the biological basis for religious beliefs. The basic thesis of many of these opinions is that beliefs in God or the sacred can be explained on the basis of certain functions in the brain. That is, neuroscience gives the answer to why we have religious beliefs, and it has nothing to do with any objectively real state of affairs that we perceive or discern. Most of these accounts presuppose materialism and so beg the question philosophically: Since we know there is no God and no sacred realm (all is material), we need to explain (and explain away) why so many have religious experiences. Of course, this is not an argument, but a presupposition not argued for.”

      “However, it is no threat to religious belief if certain brain states correlate with certain religious beliefs or experiences. We are material as well as spiritual beings. The mind interacts with the body, as Scripture teaches and our experience confirms. The threat to religious belief only appears when this correlation is understood as a reduction of the spiritual to the material (see chapter 17).”

      “There is another problem for this reductive view: it works as a boomerang against itself. If religious beliefs can be explained away as illusory simply because their neurological components (physical states) are identified, we must, by the force of the same argument, explain away as illusory the belief that religious beliefs are illusory (there is no God) because they too are merely neurological states. This kind of reduction and refutation would extend to all beliefs that can be identified with brain activity. But this conclusion results in an epistemological nihilism that is unsupportable logically and existentially.”

      “It speaks volumes to note that while millions of dollars in grant money goes to explaining the neurological basis of religion, nothing goes to explain the neurological basis of atheism or skepticism. Apparently, atheism and skepticism are innocent until proven guilty, whereas religious beliefs are just plain guilty.”

      “In conclusion, all the advances in the knowledge of the neurological workings of the brain and its relation to religious beliefs and experiences in no way refute the truth of these beliefs. That would be the work of philosophy. Here, as in so many other areas, naturalistic science (i.e. materialist explanation) is an unaccredited usurper of intellectual authority.”

      https://reformedreader.wordpress.com/2012/04/27/religion-a-mental-construct/

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    Hello Usuf;

    Your theory stinks too much it reminds of a large SHRIMP. You know where shrimp stores shit? Your anti Buddhism messages lately have baffled me ;
    “I love shrimps they are delicious but my friend told me that prawns have their shit stored in their head area and so one day I decided to dissect the prawn myself and found out it was true. That is so weird and they don’t have blood either. But the big question is if they have shit for brains then where is their brain? how do they think?”

    Let me quote straight from the information available in the public domain about Islam in Saudi Arabia, where you are dreaming of visiting on pilgrimage.

    ” ISLAM IS THE STATE RELIGION of Saudi Arabia and its law requires that all citizens be Muslims. The government does not legally protect the freedom of religion. Any overseas national attempting to acquire Saudi nationality must convert to Islam.

    Saudi Arabia is an Islamic theocracy. Religious minorities do not have the right to practice their religion. Non-Muslim propagation is banned, and conversion from Islam to another religion is punishable by death as apostasy.[5] Proselytizing by non-Muslims, including the distribution of non-Muslim religious materials such as Bibles, is illegal. In late 2014 a law was promulgated calling for the death penalty for anyone bringing into the country “publications that have a prejudice to any other religious beliefs other than Islam”

    We the Buddhists of Sri Lanka and of SINHALA ORIGIN respect the wishes and the law of Saudi People. There is no issue with their explicitly declared law and the policies applicable towards other religion. It is the wish of the majority of Saudi Arabia. Saudis do not interfere with other religions elsewhere.

    Usuf, who the heck are you to tell us Sinhala Buddhists, that we can’t incorporate the words; “Buddhism is the State Religion of Sri Lanka”. Our country, its people (Sinhala) and their religion Buddhism has been there before Islam was founded by Prophet Mohammed ( May peace be upon him)
    Usuf; you are neither an Islamic scholar nor any other reputable recognized authority on religions, so please refrain from attacking our religion Buddhism in Sri Lanka. Your nefarious actions and words have the effect of driving Muslim bigots on to the streets against Sinhala Buddhists and it is not a good sign.

    Also USUF , I challenge you to counter what I have said about the pre-eminent position offered to Islam in Saudi Arabia. I, a Sinhala-Buddhist respect the law of Saudi Arabia and request you to follow the following from Koran;

    “Say: O disbelievers!
    I worship not that which ye worship;
    Nor worship ye that which I worship.
    And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
    Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
    Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.”

    (An extract of Translations of the Qur’an, Surah 109: )

    Usuf, I hope you will counter my argument.

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      Ranbandu

      //”Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.” (An extract of Translations of the Qur’an, Surah 109: )”??

      Saudi Arabia Follows Wahabism, Salafism, ISIS-Ism and it its different versions.

      The Error you make here is that you are making the ASSUMPTION that Saudi Arabia Follows Islam. No. They do NOT follow Islam, They follow Wahhabism, that follows Satan-ism, Iblis-ism.

      Read about the Hadith of Najd and Iblis, Devil.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Najd

      According to two narrations in Sahih Bukhari, Muhammad asks Allah to bless the areas of Bilad al-Sham (Syria) and Yemen. When his companions said “Our Najd as well,” he replied: “There will appear earthquakes and afflictions, and from there will come out the side of the head (e.g. horns) of Satan.” In a similar narration, Muhammad again asked Allah to bless the areas Medina, Mecca, Sham, and Yemen and, when asked specifically to bless Najd, repeated similar comments about there being earthquakes, trials, tribulations, and the horns of Satan.

      “O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Shaam. O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Yemen.” The people said, “O Messenger of Allaah, and our Najd.” I think the third time the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said, “There (in Najd) will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations, and from there appears the Horn of Satan.”

      It has been asserted that this hadith is relating the coming events that shook the Muslim nation, these known as fitnah or ‘trials’. Amongst the trials that arose in Iraq and the east was the martyrdom of Hussein ibn Ali, the grandson of Muhammad, as well as the first battle between the Muslims that also occurred in Iraq. This as well as the tribulations that came along with the multitude of sects that formed in the east, specifically Iraq and Baghdad, being the Qadariyyah, the Jahmiyyah (from Jahm bin Safwan), the spread of the Mu’tazila, and the advent of the emergence of the Shia in opposition to the Sunni Muslims. It has also been identified as where the Dajjal or Antichrist is said to emerge from (according to a narration through Imam Nawawi). There have also been various theories instigated against the people of the modern day region of Saudi Arabia known as ‘Najd’, however, historically and geographically this argument is disputed.

      Devil (Islam)

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_(Islam)

      In Islam, the Devil is known as Iblīs (Arabic: إبليس‎‎, plural: ابالسة abālisah), Shayṭān (Arabic: شيطان‎‎, plural: شياطين shayāṭīn) or Shaitan. In Islam, Iblis is a Jinn who refused to kneel before Adam.

      The primary characteristic of the Devil is hubris. His primary activity is to incite humans and jinn to commit evil through deception, which is referred to as “whispering into the hearts”.The Quran mentions that Satans are the assistants of those who disbelieve in God: “We have made the evil ones friends to those without faith.”

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        Amarasiri

        you seem to be chairmen or chief imam of lanka. tell me some thing who is superior God Allah or Devil Iblis. Allah said to be an almighty.then why is it not able to control impact of so called Iblis if it is most merciful one.for the shack of his followers it should do that and restore order among Muslims fractions. it is not dead as yet still alive never die it seems. Apostle Mohammad should be with him in paradise under its chair or over it.why is he not appealing to restore order defeating devil or Iblis or whatever. are they looking at thing happening here like watching teledrama.

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          ranjith

          “God Allah or Devil Iblis. Allah said to be an almighty.then why is it not able to control impact of so called Iblis”

          Amarairi is not Chairman of this or that, but trying to put some reason to Irrational Theologies, that must be accepted based on Revelations and belief. It is like Buddha visiting the Land of Native Veddah Aethho three times, and flying to the top of the mountain belief.

          You need to look at the Theology of Judaism (Old Testament), Christianity (The New Testament) and Islam (The Quran). There are many similarities, where man is given free will to follow God or the Devil, Satan, Iblis.

          Those who follow God are expected to do Good things,

          Those who follow Satan, Devil, Iblis, will often do bad things, such as the Wahhabies, Salafis ISIS and their clones.

          Satan =Devil= Serpent= Iblis =Shaitan. He has a big Ego.He does not like man to be bowing and Worshiping God. He has been given free will to recruit man, and create chaos and do a lot of killings.

          Who does that? The Catholics used to do that. The Protestants used to do that,. The Wahhables and their clones are doing that.

          That is the Theology. The theology claims that on the Day of Judgement, those who did Good will be with God, and those who did bad, will be in Hell with the Devil, Satan, Iblis.

          The Christian theology goes, one step further. There was the Original Sin in man, because Adam Listened to the Devil, Satan, and it can only be redeemed by believing Jesus Christ is the Savior, which the Jews and Muslims do not believe.

          These theologies are mental constructs, and will not stand a rational, philosophical and scientific scrutiny.

          In the meantime, the Priests, the Monks and the Mullahs, and Ulema get to maintain their Hegemony.

          Machiavelli, where are you? Can you help out ranjith?

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            Bullshit

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            Bullshit except one thing

            These theologies are mental constructs, and will not stand a rational, philosophical and scientific scrutiny.

            what does that mean. all are suffering from mental deceases. better to get treatments. we are not accepting any thing stated in any so called holy books or any legend or any scriptures unless those are proven in scientific way.till then every thing bullshit to us.

            spreading bullshits like this is a punishable offence I think as per penal code of sri lanka.As such people of this clan should arrested and places should be sealed.doctrine should be banned.

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              ranjith

              “spreading bullshits like this is a punishable offence I think as per penal code of sri lanka”

              That is the reason why, there should be separation of Religion and State, to protect the state and the people from Buss-Shit.

              The state should not participate on the spreading of bull-shit, but allow the bullshitters to spread bull-shit, and if that is what they want to do.

              That is what the US and France did 2 odd centuries ago.

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            amarasiri

            you again mentioned wrong assumption that this is the land of vannila aththo. As per reseach done on oldest skeleton found in rock cave at balangoda famouse as balangoda man or balangoda manawakaya did revealed that his skull is not compatible with vannila aththo veddaloid race skull. as such we can assume that some human habitat existed here in addition to vannila aththo or veddaloid race. as per carbon analysis of this skelaton it is found that it is around 175,000 years old.this balngoda man may be the member of first batch of homo sapience who migrated to this Island.human evolution took place around two million years ago. as such talking on 2500 years old human habitation in this Island is a bullshit.our ancestors

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              ranjith

              “is found that it is around 175,000 years old.this balngoda “

              Is the Earth 6,000 years Old? Did Buddha Fly to the mountain, and hover above the natives, as written in the Dipawansa?

              Homo Sapiens came out of Africa about 70,00 years ago.

              The Human Journey: Migration Routes

              When humans first ventured out of Africa some 60,000 years ago, they left genetic footprints still visible today. By mapping the appearance and frequency of genetic markers in modern peoples, we create a picture of when and where ancient humans moved around the world. These great migrations eventually led the descendants of a small group of Africans to occupy even the farthest reaches of the Earth.

              Our species is an African one: Africa is where we first evolved, and where we have spent the majority of our time on Earth. The earliest fossils of recognizably modern Homo sapiens appear in the fossil record at Omo Kibish in Ethiopia, around 200,000 years ago. Although earlier fossils may be found over the coming years, this is our best understanding of when and approximately where we originated.

              According to the genetic and paleontological record, we only started to leave Africa between 60,000 and 70,000 years ago. What set this in motion is uncertain, but we think it has something to do with major climatic shifts that were happening around that time—a sudden cooling in the Earth’s climate driven by the onset of one of the worst parts of the last Ice Age. This cold snap would have made life difficult for our African ancestors, and the genetic evidence points to a sharp reduction in population size around this time. In fact, the human population likely dropped to fewer than 10,000. We were holding on by a thread.

              Once the climate started to improve, after 70,000 years ago, we came back from this near-extinction event. The population expanded, and some intrepid explorers ventured beyond Africa. The earliest people to colonize the Eurasian landmass likely did so across the Bab-al-Mandab Strait separating present-day Yemen from Djibouti. These early beachcombers expanded rapidly along the coast to India, and reached Southeast Asia and Australia by 50,000 years ago. The first great foray of our species beyond Africa had led us all the way across the globe.

              Slightly later, a little after 50,000 years ago, a second group appears to have set out on an inland trek, leaving behind the certainties of life in the tropics to head out into the Middle East and southern Central Asia. From these base camps, they were poised to colonize the northern latitudes of Asia, Europe, and beyond.

              Around 20,000 years ago a small group of these Asian hunters headed into the face of the storm, entering the East Asian Arctic during the Last Glacial Maximum. At this time the great ice sheets covering the far north had literally sucked up much of the Earth’s moisture in their vast expanses of white wasteland, dropping sea levels by more than 300 feet. This exposed a land bridge that connected the Old World to the New, joining Asia to the Americas. In crossing it, the hunters had made the final great leap of the human journey. By 15,000 years ago they had penetrated the land south of the ice, and within 1,000 years they had made it all the way to the tip of South America. Some may have even made the journey by sea.

              The story doesn’t end there, of course. The rise of agriculture around 10,000 years ago—and the population explosion it created—has left a dramatic impact on the human gene pool. The rise of empires, the astounding oceangoing voyages of the Polynesians, even the extraordinary increase in global migration over the past 500 years could all leave traces in our DNA. There are many human journey questions waiting to be asked and answered.

              What stories are waiting to be told in your own DNA?

              https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/human-journey/

              Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations

              http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v59/n1/full/jhg2013112a.html

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                human evolution took place around twenty millions years ago. ever since migration started. you must be reading some other books not on human evolution.yes balangoda man skeleton carbon analysis indicated age is around one hundred and seventy five thousand years old. other skeleton found indicated one hundred and twenty five thousand. our lord Buddha attained Buddha hood around two thousand six hundred years ago.at that time humans were fully civilized. evolution age and religions ages has no connection.homo sapience started moving around two millions years ago.age of the earth estimated is around 4500 millions years. compare to that two millions is nothing.fully pledged homo sapience habitation found only here and south Africa as yet. as such our Island was pioneer destination of first or second or third batch of homo sapience.nearest places may be Australia Africa or Georgia.they are our ancestors. Even in India such an old skeleton not found as yet. as such our Island inhabited with homo sapiences well before India inhabited. you all think and look at thing giving first priority to India or adjoining Pakistan as large number of Muslim population live there and you Muslims jealousy of tiny Island nation achievement with regards to human civilization. in the tiny Islands of Pacific story is the same.our tiny nation was able to built great civilizations here first.you minorities ethnic and religion came very much latter. no contribution at all for our civilization.it was on our own.

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            Amarasiri

            Now I can understand your continuation of insult to sinhalese race as para sinhalese or para sinhalese Buddhists. actually you are a Muslims whose ancestors said to be from south India fall into paraya group. as such your jealousy with real owners of land make you call us that way. that is human nature.you know real meaning of Amarasiri Ra badulla as per our native sinhalese dialect that used in my native villege. glow worm in English.

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              ranjith

              You are stuck just like the Catholic Church was 400 years ago with the Geocentric model, which was shown to be incorrect by Copernicus, Galileo and Kepler, despite the revelation by Joshua stopping the Sun for 24 hours.

              You are stuck on the tales of Mahawansa and Dipawansa. According to Dipawansa, Buddha came to the Land of native Veddah Aethho, 3 times, and was hovering over the heads of the Native, and went o the mountain. flying? Your beliefs in Dipawnsa and Mahawqansa arew veru similar to the beliefs of the others in the scriptures, in the absence of proof.

              Where is the Proof? It is in the DNA of the Paras and the Native Veddah Aethho.

              http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v59/n1/full/jhg2013112a.html

              Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations.

              Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.

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                Do not ever belittle indigenous people of Sri Lanka. Bastards and Parayas (like your grandparents) who came to this country looking for treasure and fortune termed our indigenous people “Veddhas”. You are following their traditions. During the period prior to 1505, there was no group of people known as Veddha. You dirty ignorant rascal a product of Baduddin Mohammed’s education project based on bigotry has been running low blows lately on Indigenous people – let me correct you our indigenous people belong to one of the most advanced race ever lived on this planet; Our country according to the available documented evidence was known as SWARNA LANKA, though the Rats in Colombo circle have due to unfortunate political interventions given the present name Sri Lanka. Also, take note of it, we the indigenous people are Buddhists.

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              ranjith

              “Now I can understand your continuation of insult to sinhalese race as para sinhalese or para sinhalese Buddhists.”

              Telling the truth is not an insult. Clinging on to unsupported myths, is clear stupidity. Do you believe that the Sun goes around the Earth? 25% of Americans, 34% of Europeans and probably 50% of Paras in the Land of Native Veddah Aeythho believe that.

              1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Survey Says

              http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/02/14/277058739/1-in-4-americans-think-the-sun-goes-around-the-earth-survey-says

              This is simply bringing the truth . the historical and scientific truth supported by data, to confront Myths.

              The Catholic Church did that to the Astronomers Coprperivis, Galoleo and Kepler.

              The Fundamentalists are doing that to Charles Darwin, and every day brings data that shows Darwin was correct on the Theory of Evolution.

              Stupidest Muslim Vs Neil Tyson – How ideology can ruin intellectual power

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyCxrL9-C84

              Para-Sinhala Para-Buddhists in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho is not different. They all want to protect their Myths, their Version of Myths.

              In the meantime, the Earth rotates on its, own axis, goes around the Sun, and evolution was taking place for millions of years and the Para-Sinhala, Para-Buddhists, Para-Tamils and Para-Muslims are still Paras, along with the other Paras, in the Land of native Veddah Aaethho.

              The Vedda Tribe

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f89NuukY32U

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                ranjit,

                Stupidest Muslim Vs Neil Tyson – How ideology can ruin intellectual power

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyCxrL9-C84

                Stupidity is not restricted to Muslims. It is widespread among the Paras in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho, among the Para-Sinhala, Para-Tamils and Para-Muslims.

                We need,

                Stupidest Para-Sinhala and other Paras in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho Vs Neil Tyson – How ideology can ruin intellectual power, and how mythology can ruin a nation.Need a new Video by Neil Tyson.

                Para- Racism and Mahinda Rajapaksa Regime | Anura Kumara 2015

                Published on May 18, 2015
                Racism and Mahinda Rajapaksa

                The new leader of the Janatha Vimukthi Peramuna (JVP), Anura Kumara Dissanayake

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNqsI5IZwhA

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            Amarasiri

            Tell me where your Iblis or demon live I am from sorcerer community from Matara. my grand father was great sorcerer. my father refused to continue that practice line was broken but before my grand father expired he taught me some knowledge how to tame yakkas or demon. I will try to tame it if you can tell me exact areas your Ibls is haunting should be on earth not in your heaven.my knowledge not applicable there. you have to contact god Vishnu preserver for taming works in heaven.God Vishnu may do what your almighty Allah can not do.

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              ranjith

              “Tell me where your Iblis or demon live ” – Go with the Data.

              Wahhabi Saudi Arabia,in the Najad region, Dairiyah, Riyadh. Wahhab, the Father of Wahhabism came from there, and it was predicted in the Hadith.

              In 1802, 12,000 of the Iblis followers, Wahhabies, went to Karabala and killed 5,000 Shia. It was higher than the Tamils killed by Sinhala “Buddhists” during Black July 1983, but lower than the Tamils, LTTE, killed during 2009.

              Are the Sinhala “Buddhists” following Mara or Buddha? At least we know that the Wahhabies follow Mara, Iblis, Devil, Satan.

              Wahhabi sack of Karbala

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi_sack_of_Karbala

              Hadith of Najd

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Najd

              Hadith of Najd and the Maps: The Place of Fitna

              https://islammyreligion.wordpress.com/2013/04/11/hadith-of-najd-and-the-maps-the-place-of-fitna/

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                i do not know. you mentioned on those demons.if you can locate the area I can try to tame them

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                we follow Buddha’s teaching. Do not have to worship anybody else. Mara is only omen feeling beget in mind. nothing else. with awareness of Buddha’s teaching one can defeat those omen feelings. other than that no special spirit call Mara or Satan

                Buddha is an enlighten one as such mass to energy (E=mc2 Einstein) and vis a versa can be performed.As such Buddha’s activities scientifically proven.

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                Amarasiri

                we sinhalese are yakkas, raksha two service class called naga yakka and naga raksha and deva rakshsa but tamed by buddhism. it is like para-dime. which can be switched at any movement with omen thoughts.it is good for self defense. otherwise. like giant elephant handled by small chain,we sinhalese might have engulfed by south Indians. see the population ratio and number of invasions done by chola chera pandyan, kerala and other south Indian dynasties as well as east Indians like Odessa. as such I worn you people to be ware if para-dime switched none of them will be alive here in this land.

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                IN final analysis all gods, demons or Satan is bullshits.no god or gods, iblis or satan. all are man made concepts to deceive fellow men and women.your religion and Nazism no big difference even other Abrahamic religions are same. your Mohammad military ruler like Hitler created military doctrine to persuade people for war. it is just like carbon copy of the other two Abrahamic religion holy books. his intention was to conquer Arabian peninsula and neighboring territories. that was his world. the other theories or concepts he mentioned are legends existed his time in middle east.I have gone through all the books called holy and relevant literatures. nothing except military strategies found.deception of people toward that goal with carrots like seventy virgins. Mohammad like Hitler is the great receptor of humanity ever produced.it is the primitive garbage nothing else.no explanations needed that is my final conclusion.reading is my habit as small kid I was motivated my grand father to recite his manthara books sorcerers books to refresh his memories.

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                  ranjith

                  “IN final analysis all gods, demons or Satan is bullshits.no god or gods, iblis or satan. all are man made concepts to deceive fellow men and women.”

                  Bravo! Finally, you are getting the essence of it.

                  Still you can pick from 1 or more of the 10,000 religions. Don’t assume that Sinhala “Buddhism”, Christianity, Islam, or Hinduism are the only religions.

                  Ask yourself. where do you want to end up in after life? Then pick the religion.

                  Mental constructs to maintain and perpetuate hegemony and control by the Monks, Priests, Mullahs and Ulema.

                  Religion

                  Religion is a cultural system of behaviors and practices, world views, sacred texts, holy places, ethics, and societal organisation that relate humanity to what an anthropologist has called “an order of existence”.Different religions may or may not contain various elements, ranging from the “divine”,”sacred things”,”faith”, a “supernatural being or supernatural beings” or “…some sort of ultimacy and transcendence that will provide norms and power for the rest of life.”

                  Religious practices may include rituals, sermons, commemoration or veneration (of God or deities), sacrifices, festivals, feasts, trances, initiations, funerary services, matrimonial services, meditation, prayer, music, art, dance, public service, or other aspects of human culture. Religions have sacred histories and narratives, which may be preserved in sacred scriptures, and symbols and holy places, that aim mostly to give a meaning to life. Religions may contain symbolic stories, which are sometimes said by followers to be true, that have the side purpose of explaining the origin of life, the Universe, and other things. Traditionally, faith, in addition to reason, has been considered a source of religious beliefs. There are an estimated 10,000 distinct religions worldwide. About 84% of the world’s population is affiliated with one of the five largest religions, namely Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism or forms of folk religion.

                  With the onset of the modernisation of and the scientific revolution in the western world, some aspects of religion have cumulatively been criticized. Though the religiously unaffliated, including atheism (the rejection of belief in the existence of deities) and agnosticism (the belief that the truth of certain claims – especially metaphysical and religious claims such as whether God, the divine or the supernatural exist – are unknown and perhaps unknowable), have grown globally, many of the unaffiliated still have various religious beliefs. About 16% of the world’s population is religiously unaffiliated.

                  The study of religion encompasses a wide variety of academic disciplines, including theology, comparative religion and social scientific studies. Theories of religion offer various explanations for the origins and workings of religion.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion

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                    I do not mind where i go after my death. i want to live happy life. that is all. ultimately nirwana. that is our goal.wish is to reborn in places where no gods or demon theories exist.specially Abrahamic religions. sarcastic ones.

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                      ranjith

                      “I do not mind where i go after my death. i want to live happy life. that is all. ultimately nirwana. that is our goal.wish is to reborn in places where no gods or demon theories exist.specially Abrahamic religions. sarcastic ones. “

                      You need to throw out All the unsupported Myths. Why select some myths, based on your brainwashing, and discard only other myths? Use reason and the scientific method, not double standards.

                      “ultimately nirwana. that is our goal.wish is to reborn in places where no gods or demon theories exist.”

                      The above are myths too.

                      What happens to you after you die? You will believe what you have been brainwashed with, like the others, but the facts may be quite different. Example Sun going around the Earth, when the fact is the Earth going around the Sun.

                      So, ranjit what happens to you, when you die and buried? The answer is below.

                      Neil deGrasse Tyson answers a religious troll

                      Published on May 7, 2014
                      An excerpt from the Poetry of Science with Richard Dawkins and Neil deGrasse Tyson. Dr. Tyson was asked of what to do if he is about to be executed.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orCZUfnK1J0

                      PS. The Sinhala, Tamils, Muslim and others are Paras in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho.

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    Another stupid article by the cunning and stupid Mass L. Usuf.

    In your earlier articles you were throwing some LIGHT punches at Sinhala-Buddhist and their constitution, since Sinhala-Buddhist didn’t challenge you for your rubbish thoughts, now you’ve got brave and started throwing heavy punches at Sinhala-Buddhist and their constitution.

    SRI LANKA IS A SINHALA-BUDDHIST COUNTY, if anyone doesn’t like it that way, then leave, you know where the airport is.

    Write about Kuragala invasion BY MUSLIMS, Deanagala invasion BY MUSLIMS, Digawapia invasion BY MUSLIMS, Muhudu Maha Viharaya invasion BY MUSLIMS, Dabulla Buddhist holy city invasion BY MUSLIMS, Anuradhapura Buddhist holy city invasion BY MUSLIMS, Kandy Buddhist holy city invasion BY MUSLIMS, MUSLIM illegal settlements in Willpaththuawa national forest, etc.

    Sinhalese are better off without MUSLIM junk shops. Typical Muslim businessman is a fraudster.

    As long as cunning people, such as Mass L. Usuf are around, patriotic organizations like BBS will gain more strength to defeat Muslim invasion.

    REMEMBER, SINHALESE DON’T NEED MUSLIM, BUT MUSLIMS NEED SINHALESE!!!!!

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      David;

      Thank you for telling it straight to these Muslim-bigots.

      You have concluded saying;

      “REMEMBER, SINHALESE DON’T NEED MUSLIM, BUT MUSLIMS NEED SINHALESE!!!!!”

      Spot on!, Sinhala Buddhists have been too lenient on these newly emerged dirty fellows. If we boycott all the Muslim shops, establishments and low quality products marketed among Sinhala-Buddhists, these fellows will realize that Sinhala-Buddhists do not need any other tool (!!) to stop their aggression. We don’t need BBS or Ravana balaya.

      These fellows are fed and sponsored by certain dirty Sinhala politicians; that is the issue right now.

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      Devid

      well said well done. This is Sinhalese Buddhist country if others want to stay. can do that but respecting great Sinhalese Buddhist culture or rich civilization.we are not parayas. we are the real owners of this land.all others are parayas.

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        ranjith

        “This is Sinhalese Buddhist country “

        Tell the historical truth. This is the Land of Native Veddah Aethho. All others are Paras, Para-deshis, strangers.

        This is the Land of Native Veddah Aethho Occupied by Para-Sinhala, Para-Tamils, Para- Muslims and other Paras following their Para Religions, Para-Buddhism, Para-Hinduism and Para-Islam.

        Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.

        http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v59/n1/full/jhg2013112a.html

        The Vedda Tribe

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f89NuukY32U

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          this is sinhalese Buddhists country. all others are parayas. specially Muslims. my advise to my fellow sinhalese to start killing Muslims at least one person per day. otherwise our race will be in great trouble.destroy all the mosques.

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            ranjith

            Get the facts straight. Myths need proof and support.

            All, Para-Sinhala, Para-Tamils, Para-Muslims and other Paras, are Paras, Parayas, Para-deshis, in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho.

            The Historical, geological and DNA evidence supports that.

            The Vedda Tribe

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f89NuukY32U

            http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v59/n1/full/jhg2013112a.html

            Furthermore, the Religions of the Paras are distorted forms of the Original Para-Religions, as practiced.

            Sinhala-Buddhism, is one such example of the corrupted Buddhism as practiced in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho, by the so-called Para- Sinhala-“Buddhists”.

            Mahavamsa- An Insult To The Buddha!By Sharmini Serasinghe –

            Caution- The following is more suitable for the broad-minded and the wise. Others are kindly advised to pass!

            https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mahavamsa-an-insult-to-the-buddha/

            (Para)-Sinhala Fundamentalism Tries A Fast One-Once Again By Shyamon Jayasinghe

            https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/sinhala-fundamentalism-tries-a-fast-one-once-again/

            ranhit says // “my advise to my fellow sinhalese to start killing Muslims at least one person per day. otherwise our race will be in great trouble.destroy all the mosques.” //

            Remember Don Juan Dharmapala of the Kotte Kingdom? He gave his Throne to the Portuguese and became Catholic. Then he chased the Muslims to the East. The Pope will certainly like that.

            Is there truth to the statement, Sinhalaya Modaya, Kavun Kanna Yodaya?

            Is that in the Para-Sinhala genes and low average IQ of 79?

            National IQ Scores – Country Rankings

            http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html

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              This is sinhalese buddhists land. we are the one who established great civilization here like Germans in Germany, French in France, Japanese in japan Chinese in china so on.as such this is sinhalese land called sinhalay, Ceylon,seylan serandibity by other languages.others are parayas. as per archaeological evidence it is the truth.it is not the myth. we are not the Indians like para Muslims. we are descendants of homo sapience pioneers of humans.even India was inhabited by homo sapience migrated from here.paraya Muslims have no any rights here. no contribution only the looting of our wealth they done.we should boycott Muslims business.they came here on their own for trading not at our invitation. as such owners of this country sinhalese Buddhists have every rights to chase them out. boycott all Muslims business. they are savages. looking for beheading of non Muslims and loot our land.

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                No you did not! Sri Lankan civilisation is completely mixed and mainly imported from India! Everything about Sri Lanka has root from India. Be it languages, be it cultures, be it cousin; be it ancient technologies all have come from India. Stop being such a smug.

                Sri Lanka has been from time immortal a Secular country. Hinduism and Buddhism have been in existence side-by-side. Stop denying the Tamil and hindu heritage that shaped the Sinhala heritage. Hinduism is much older than Buddhism and future objective archaeology will stack up facts.

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                  idiot

                  our ancestors were animist before arrival of Buddhism here. Hinduism came here with queens for our kings first. latter chola chera pandyan invasions.our animistic heritages still in existence in sinigama devalaya and other places specially south part of the Island. grinding of mustard, papers and chilies at those kovils still a rituals for revenge.dashing of coconut though Hindus practice too is another animistic ritual. exorcism still in existence alone south coast provide ample evidence for animistic practices.as such sinhalese culture is unique to sinhalese. with Indian invasion some Indian features might have been added but people in ruhuna still maintained uniqueness.world oldest folk song like helu helai helaiya provide unique evidence. that is the appeal to soul of fish caught in madale or fishing net and sagara or sea. same kind of practice visible in papua new genia. where no religions except animism existed until dutch and British invasion. as such sinhalese rich culture has nothing to do with Indian culture or technology except few additions with royal marriages and south Indian invasions.

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              Stupidity also has its limits; get a brain scan from a reputed hospital/clinic before you become a lunatic to suggest that Sinhala-Buddhist origin is a “Myth”. Your hatred towards Sinhala-Buddhists are amply evident in your Messages and responses. It is driven by inferior complex, we the Sinhala-Buddhists forgive you for the demeaning and derogatory comments you have made so far under the name “AMARASIRI”. The readers have to ignore your comments.

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              India is not a place where human evolution taken place. India too was inhabited by homo sapience migrated from some other destinations like euro asia region or African region Australasian region through our Island or Mongolian region. as such your DNA theory is bullshit.if human evolution took place there we could have accept that theory.Migration pattern of homo sapience still under test.as such DNA test alone can not determine human distribution.I am not prepared to accept any thing without scientific back ground like you fool Muslims amarasiri fakeer you should know that.first send email to your god Allah to settle over due payments to our Island ports from which it hired weight handling equipments to lower your Adam from heaven to earth.so called Adam peak.

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                ranjit,

                The truth hurts the Myth believers. True for Catholics, Wahhabies and Para-Sinhala Buddhists.

                1. The TRUTH hurt the Catholic Church on its debate with with Copernican Theory, Galileo and Kepler.They burned Guardian Bruno.

                2. The TRUTH hurt the Wahhabies and they they went on killing the Shia and others who are nor Wahhabi, 20 year ago.Wahhabi clones, ISIS does the same today.

                3. The TRUTH hurts the Abrahamic Beliefs based on Adam and Eve, being thrown out of heaven, with Sin, Original Sin etc., when the Theory of Evolution is Shown to be correct, based on Data and Evidence. The Intelligent Design advocates, are losing their arguments every time.

                Ken Miller on Human Evolution- Uploaded on Feb 14, 2007

                Dr. Ken Miller talks about the relationship between Homo sapiens and the other primates. He discusses a recent finding of the Human Genome Project which identifies the exact point of fusion of two primate chromosomes that resulted in human chromosome #2.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk

                4. The TRUTH hurts the Para-Sinhala-“Buddhists”, and they they went on killing the fellow cousins, Para-Tamils, who were not Para-Sinhala “Buddhists”. This was not the Dhamma of the Enlightened Buddha.

                What science, reason and civilization does is clear the minds of these MYTH holders, and get them Civilized.

                The Data supports that the original inhabitants of Lanka, the Land of Native Veddah Aethho were the Veddah Aethho, People, despite all the lies and myths being spread by the Para-Sinhala. Are the Para-Tamils making the same claim? Are the Para-Sinhala, Sinhala speaking Para-Tamils from India, Hindia, Bharat?

                References:

                Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations

                http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v59/n1/full/jhg2013112a.html

                Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.

                The Vedda Tribe

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f89NuukY32U

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      David,

      “SRI LANKA IS A SINHALA-BUDDHIST COUNTY”

      Since when? The Sinhala Buddhists have been trying to build a Sinhala Buddhist nation since 1948 by hook and by nook! This is why we had a 30 year war! The infamous Mahavamsa mindset is at work! Sri Lanka has been secular from time immortal; both Buddhism and Hinduism existed side-by-side. You bigots have been endeavouring to erase everything hindu and Tamils! What does it show? Its your inherent insecurity and uncultured behaviour. Grow up and accept that Sri Lanka is a multi-faith and multilingual country.

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        Hello Burning

        You are burning with hate and anger towards Sinhala-Buddhists. Irony is that there is no fix or medicine for your ignorance which is the root cause of your anger.

        The colonial rulers systematically destroyed our birthrights since 1505.We have not regained what we lost to Colonial rulers and the other political leaders masquerading as Buddhists since 1953.

        Big correction for
        ” since 1948 by hook and by nook!”

        Yes we laid foundation to regain our birthrights from 1948-1953. Unfortunately our plans were derailed by two Christian Malayali families; Bandaranaike and Jayawardene. If not for these two devious Malayalies we would have regained our SINHALA-BUDDHIST birthrights, developed a vibrant democracy, Economy of the country to surpass that of any western Economy and above all the nation would have avoided an unnecessary war with Tamil speaking minority.

        So Burning, if you have any burning issue take it up with Bandaranaikes and Jayawardenes and their remaining members of the brood.

        Otherwise, if you don’t like a Sinhala-Buddhist nation in the future, you know where the airport is or how to get a boat back to the paradise that you came from. By the way we the Sinhala-Buddhists are not juveniles like you our ancestors and Buddhism have taught us to be patient.

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          Sinhalaya,

          You lack common sense let alone knowledge of history! What did you have before 1505? Sri Lanka became as one country because of colonial manipulations! So, if anything, you need to be grateful to the Brits for handing over Sri Lanka as one country for you to ruin. You are not a Buddhist but a bigot!

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            Burning ISSUE

            You must be Indian not sri lanken. first learn history of Lanka. we wee united country when Portuguese landed here. ever since division of our country started.That is the truth.we sinhalese lost our heritages. minorities got promoted.specially Muslims given information on where about of our great rebel leaders like kappitipola and puran appu for privileges.as such we should get revenge from them.expel them from our land. Tamils got jaffna peninsula killing all sinhalese lived there in 1557 sinhalese lived in maha vaniya now vauniya, mullathives and manner were tamilized with help of officers came from tamilnadu under British rule. can you show any single irrigation canal done by Tamils or Muslims here. Even iranamadu reservoir in Kilinochchi so called heart land of Tamils was the work of our great king Dathusena.As such how you say our country united because of British invasion. As far as India is concern your theory is ok. but here whole Island wrinkled with the sweat of sinhalese Buddhists not by other minority paraya. They were treacherous gang betrayed our great civilization ..

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              ranjit,

              Yes I am open to learn history as no one knows everything.

              “we wee united country when Portuguese landed here. ever since division of our country started.”

              Now, where or in which history book did you learn this? Can you point me to this please?

              First you answer this before I venture into your other drivels. I have no doubt that you devour Sinhala Buddhist chauvinistic materials religiously; you have been well and truly inculcated into this falsehood. I truly feel sorry for you; you poor thing!

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                To learn my mother land history I did not have to read any book.stories I heard from my grand parents and elders as child was distorted history of our land and our race and our religion. fanaticism can not be satisfied with any thing.My great great grand fathers were in our great king prakramabahu VI in kotte kingdom. as such our history in my blood.

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                  ranjit,

                  Thanks for confirming that you are intoxicated with senseless pride; standing on a flimsy chauvinistic platform; looking down on others armed with hearsay stories from your ancestors. Mahavamssa was put together in that fashion too; this is why Sri Lanka cannot move on from this idiotic insecure pride!

                  The Europeans for all their shortcomings have been very good at record-keeping. Many scholars made their careers on deciphering their records by publishing many scholarly works. Here we have you shamlessly uttering on a public forum distorting even the relatively recent history with hearsay stories from your ancestors! What a fellow you are indeed!

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                    My grand parent and family elders compiled stories that were told to us base on eye witness account of their ancestors.as such those were very reliable stories rather than distorted records of imperialists.those were very in line with historical records stored in our purana raja maha viharas or historical temples.history books written by various writers quoting historical records stored in our temples.Dutch got migrated indian pandyan man to write jaffna history complete bullshit in order to end connections between kandyan kingdom and people lived in the north at that time.specially sinhalese. complete distortion of our rajata kingdom history.likewise imperialist Portuguese, dutch and British distorted our history with their so called records.their officers mostly south Indian Tamils added immensely for that distortion.when birth were registered sinhalese name written in Tamil way. example goonarathna written as goonarathnam.yasapala as yasapalan.as such those records are complete distortion of our history in order to please minorities who supported for their cause. looting of our wealth.every where that is the case.as such history taught to us by our grand parents to them by their grand parents so on are the genuine history of our land on the basis of eye witness accounts of incidents.if vijaya invasion challenged and chased out from our land by queen kuvanis brothers or sisters unfortunately she did not brothers or sisters of that caliber mahawansa writer venerable sir might have written different story.unfortunately king vijaya’s line was in power at the time of mahawansa writing started.

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                    Burning issue

                    As you are not Buddhists or Hindu you can not understand on what purpose Buddhist monks started compiling mahawamsa and other chronicles. at the same time you can understand or has no clue what soever why Hindus compiled maha baratha and ramayanaya. both the purposes are same. promotion of their respective religion in general and promotion of sects as per wish of writers. in mahawamsa case promotion of tharavada Buddhism popularization of its traditions.in other cases promotion of Hinduism and popularization of writers pet deities like mahabrakma or Vishnu or Siva. none of them were intended to keep records of history though people of modern time use them as history books and criticize or praise them.writers never expected criticism or praise for their works but wanted keep their respective religions and their beloved sect or deities alive among followers.

                    in case of mahawamsa political situation discussed time to time as mythology completely refused by Buddha but in Hindu chronicles it completely filled with myths.As such praising or criticizing those chronicles are foolish thing as Muslims say always out of context. Muslims have nothing to do with those chronicles. it is up to people who fellow respective religions discuss good or bad of those.

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    If you look at all the cases around the world , why when a muslim
    converts to other religion the Muslims first try to kill or abuse him .
    Quran / Hadith practice and taught to do this .
    Freedom you are talking about must practiced in Islam first .
    There are number of cases in Sri Lanka who are threatened if they change from Islam .

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    Mr . Usuf..
    laughing matters should not be disscussed.. you would not write an article like this if you are in a muslim country and if you are to write something like this about the main stream..you know what your fate is. 100 lashes? or perhaps you’ll loose your head. unfortunately thats the religion you believe. so please . just do what you do and we will look after our constitution mate.. just stay where ever you are. we really dont need a muslim to preach us how to govern.

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      wijelion,

      You are just an arrogant smug! Mr Usuf is also party to the constitution just like you are! He is not a citizen of an Arab country but a citizen of Sri Lanka; do you get it? He has as much right as you have to talk about affairs of Sri Lanka. Secularism is a must for Sri Lanka and it is about time the Sinhala Buddhist come to terms with it. Prime Minster RW has said recently that Sri Lanka must enact a constitution in keeping with the 21st century. Lets see what he means by it.

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        Burning Issue

        “Prime Minster RW has said recently that Sri Lanka must enact a constitution in keeping with the 21st century. Lets see what he means by it.”

        United States and France had it in the 18th Century.

        Turkey, with 99% Muslims, had it in the early 20th Century.

        Yes, its time for Sri Lanka, to privatize the Religion business, and keep State and Religion separate.

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      wijelion

      “just do what you do and we will look after our constitution mate.”

      Lanka, the Land of Native Veddah Aethho, was secular even after Para-Sinhala came from India. Even after the introduction of Para-Buddhism from India, Lanka was secular for quire some time.

      So every Lankan inhabitant has a say in the Constitution.

      So, the tradition of Lanka, the Land of Native Veddah Aethho was secular.

      That is the way it should be, because none of the myth beliefs, Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism, Islam or Christianity, can prove their claims,

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        Salaam Alaikum Amar Asri;

        Let me remind you that our indigenous people do belong to “HELA” clan; Only difference is that they opted to remain as “HELA” and preferred not to follow the founders of the nation; Sinha + Hela (SINHELA). They continued their way of life for many centuries and majority of them migrated to SINHELA communities and became part and parcel of the founders of the nation. Also there were many inter-marriages between SINHELA and indigenous HELA people.
        That is the reason for the dwindling numbers of indigenous people in Sri Lanka.

        There are too many commonalities between SINHELA and indigenous HELA people; Prominent among them are; Ayurvedic traditions, Food and Beverage traditions. Despite the dubious efforts of certain missionaries of western religions They have remained as ardent and devout Buddhists. I invite you to religious ceremonies at Mahiyanganya, Muthiyanganaya and certain days at Daladha Maligawa to witness the devotion of Indigenous people to Buddhism.

        Therefore, Amar Asri, it is better if you do not display your ignorance in the public domain. Founders of this nation; SINHELA have been too flexible and too kind to the illegal immigrants (Kalla thonis) from southern India especially your forefathers but they did not expect you to engage in a campaign to dispute their origin, insult their religion and desecrate Buddhist sacred places. Shame on you guys.

        Though it is not explicitly stated in the constitution; For us the indigenous people (Aadivaasis), Buddhism is the State Religion of our nation SWARNA LANKA (now known as Sri Lanka.)

        Amar Asri, if you do not have any decent, rationale and logical comment to be made, BUTT OUT from our discussions on the status of Buddhism in the constitution of our nation.

        Ma salama

        Aadivaasi Kiribanda Aththo

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          Aadivaasi Kiribanda Aththo

          “Let me remind you that our indigenous people do belong to “HELA” clan; Only difference is that they opted to remain as “HELA” and preferred not to follow the founders of the nation; Sinha + Hela (SINHELA). They continued their way of life for many centuries and majority of them migrated to SINHELA communities and became part and parcel of the founders of the nation. Also there were many inter-marriages between SINHELA and indigenous HELA people. That is the reason for the dwindling numbers of indigenous people in Sri Lanka. “

          Stick to the issue at hand. No ad hominems. Are the Sinhala, Paras, or Are they part of the original Natives, Native Veddah Aethho? What does the modern data say?

          The above is one Hypothesis, one-belief. The Christian Church also said, based on Joshua, that the Sun goes around the Earth, and the data showed it to be incorrect. Same with Adam and Eve beliefs, debunked b y the Theory of Evolution.

          Native Veddah Aethho in Lanka. What does the modern data say? Para-Sinhala and Para-Tamils are Paras in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho. There is no support for the Hela hypothesis, generically, even though there is some Gene Admixture, due to the raping of the Native Veddah Aethho women by the Para-Sinhala and Para-Tamils.

          http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v59/n1/full/jhg2013112a.html

          Journal of Human Genetics (2014) 59, 28–36; doi:10.1038/jhg.2013.112; published online 7 November 2013

          Anstract:

          Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.

          Discussion

          This study demonstrates the mtDNA genetic relationships among five main recognized ethnic groups on the island of Sri Lanka, as well as their affiliations with several ethnic people of the Greater Indian subcontinent. All the island populations, except some subgroups of the Vedda, form close genetic affiliations among themselves and with majority of the groups from the mainland suggesting the origin of the majority of the island population on the Indian mainland. No definite association of the Sinhalese with any specific ethnic or linguistic groups of India was, however, detected in this study; thus, their exact immediate origin on the mainland remains yet to be confirmed.

          There is no clear genetic separation based on the PCA map between Sinhalese and Tamils, and between Up- and Low-country Sinhalese of Sri Lanka. The latter phenomenon suggests a recent division of the Sinhalese into Up- and Low-country, the fact confirmed on a historical ground.31 For the groups represented in this study, majority of the Up-country Sinhalese formed closer association among themselves than did their Low-country ethnic counterparts. This is to a certain degree explicable in a light of the isolation-by-distance; the Up-country Sinhalese groups are more geographically proximal with each other than do their Low-country counterparts. However, the closer association of the Up-country Sinhalese with the Sri Lankan Tamils than with the Indian Tamils is not in agreement with the geographic distances among them. Despite recent habitation of the Indian Tamils in proximity of the Up-country Sinhalese, the Indian Tamils might have admixed, during the long distant past, more with Sri Lankan Tamils, who have lived on the island longer than their Indian ethnic counterparts.32, 33

          The genetic distinctiveness of the Vedda people on the island of Sri Lanka, as reported in this study, confirm previous results based on the analyses of nuclear markers.11, 12, 13 The markedly higher frequencies of the haplogroup R30b/R8a1a3 in all Vedda subgroups than in other Sri Lankan populations is compatible with a hypothesis that all the Vedda subgroups would have shared a common origin. The greatest inter-population genetic diversity observed among the Vedda subgroups coupled with their relatively low haplotype and nucleotide diversity would reflect greater effect of the genetic drift in the Vedda than in other ethnic groups of Sri Lanka. The pattern of genetic differentiation observed in the Vedda is a characteristic also observed in various other aboriginal populations of the world with their relatively small subgroups experiencing a long history of separation.34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39 Such population history was also proposed for the Vedda based on the anatomical analysis.10 Much greater genetic similarities with Sinhalese, and to a lesser degree with Sri Lankan Tamils, observed in some Vedda subgroups (VA-Dam, VA-Hen and VA-Pol) in comparison with other subgroups of the same ethnic category (VA-Rat and VA-Dal) suggests that the pattern of genetic admixture between older inhabitants (Vedda) and more recent newcomers (Sinhalese and Tamils) on the island was truly heterogeneous. Advance admixture of VA-Dam, VA-Hen and VA-Pol with other ethnic populations on the island is confirmed by the presence of several shared sub-haplogroups (M33a1, D, R5a and U7a) among them that are not found in VA-Rat and Va-Dal. The reduced intrapopulation genetic diversity observed among subgroups of the Vedda is most likely a result of severe genetic drift associated with the practice of endogamy among small-sized villages during the long distant past, a phenomenon with firm historical evidence.

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            Amarasiri

            I think I have gone through same site you have gone through and quoted in your comment here three or four years ago.Though you trying hard to hide you tamil muslims parabawaya it reflect everywhere even in this sight you quoted. As per myth it says our avnnila aththo decent from kuveni Vijaya childrens if it is so vannila aththo should show very good genetic affinity with vanga people of India. that is not the case. as such it is a myth.on the other hand Tamils shows big genetic affinity with Sinhalese than Indian Tamils shows sri lanken Tamils are tamilized Sinhalese due to south Indian invasions.another thing sinhalese shows more closer genetic affinity with north Indian than south Indians means we sinhalese have been independent from south Indian Tamils. As whole India too was inhabited by homo sapience from Euro asian region as suggested by this sight.some humans came to India might diverted their roots and might have landed in our Island. if we are parayas whole north Indians should be parayas. in final analysis. our Island inhabited by same gang of homo sapiences who inhabited north India as well.as such our theory we are not Indians is proven very much.nobody suggested that north indians came here after their civilization except venerable mahinda and all with Buddhism.you Muslims Tamils, maylays are parayas including up country Indian Tamils.

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              ranjith

              Stick to the Para issue under discussion. No need for ad hominems.

              Question: Are the Native Veddah Aethho, the original inhabitants of Lanka, and All others, the later arrivals Paras?

              Yes. The Data supports that.

              The hypothesis of Hela is political. There is no support for that. Raping the Native Veddah Aethho by the Para-Sinhala and Para-Tamils, and turning the offspring into half-Native Veddah Aethho, does not Qualify Para-Sinhala and Para-Tamils as Natives, and Claim “Hela” as Natives, and say all the Para-Sinhala and Para-Tamils are the Natives of Lanka. The DNA Data amply proves that.

              Sri Lanka’s Indigenous Wanniya-laeto: A Case History

              Report to Sri Lanka’s National Committee for the International Year of the World’s Indigenous People

              submitted by Cultural Survival of Sri Lanka

              http://kataragama.org/research/wanniyalaeto.htm

              Sri Lanka’s indigenous inhabitants, the Veddas or Wanniya-laeto (‘forest-dwellers’) as they call themselves, preserve a direct line of descent from the island’s original Neolithic community dating from at least 14,000 BC and probably far earlier according to current scientific opinion.1 Even today, the surviving Wanniya-laeto community retains much of its own distinctive cyclic worldview, prehistoric cultural memory, and time-tested knowledge of their semi-evergreen dry monsoon forest habitat that has enabled their ancestor-revering culture to meet the diverse challenges to their collective identity and survival. With the impending extinction of Wanniya-laeto culture, however, Sri Lanka and the world stand to lose a rich body of indigenous lore and living ecological wisdom that is urgently needed for the sustainable future of the rest of mankind.

              Historically, for the past twenty-five centuries or more Sri Lanka’s indigenous community has been buffeted by successive waves of immigration and colonization that began with the arrival of the Sinhalese from North India in the 5th century BC. Consequently, the Wanniyalaeto have repeatedly been forced to choose between two alternative survival strategies: either to be assimilated into other cultures or to retreat ever further into a shrinking forest habitat. In the course of history, uncounted thousands of these original inhabitants of the wanni (dry monsoon forest) have been more or less absorbed into mainstream Sinhala society (as in the North Central and Uva provinces) or Tamil society (as on the East Coast). Today only a few remaining Wanniya-laeto still manage to preserve their cultural identity and traditional lifestyle despite relentless pressure from the surrounding dominant communities.

              While the shy, retiring nature of the Wanniyalaeto has served to insulate them from the contaminating effects of contact with mainstream society, it has also effectively precluded their fair and adequate representation in the democratic decision-making process. Whenever a conflict of interests has arisen between the nomadic hunter-gatherer Wanniyalaeto community and the far larger dominant community of settled agriculturists and traders, the dominant community has invariably ignored the interests of the Wanniyalaeto.

              Early Sinhala immigrants from North India were of the opinion that the forest-dwelling aboriginal were not human beings at all but wild jungle spirits (yakas) who were human in outward guise only. Such negative, stereotyped attitudes towards the island’s indigenous people persists up to the present day even in educated circles and has been a major stumbling block to the recognition of Wanniya-laeto self-respect, dignity, human rights, and cultural uniqueness. Hence, the Wanniyalaeto are widely assumed to be a backward, gullible people whose point of view may be conveniently ignored.

              The vulnerable position of the Wanniyalaeto vis-a-vis mainstream society may be said to stem from two principal causes. One is that they have never received secure land tenure that recognizes their collective custodianship over traditional hunting and gathering ranges. The other reason is that they have never been consulted or represented in the decision-making process that affects their daily lives. Given the secure right to manage their traditional habitat according to their ways and given a voice to represent their collective aspirations within the framework of society at large, the Wanniyalaeto are more than capable of preserving both their endangered forest habitat and their ancestral culture for the benefit of all.

              The Wanniya-laeto themselves operate within a radically different conceptual framework from that of the local administrators who wield power over Wanniyalaeto land and interests. For instance, the Wanniyalaeto do not entertain modern notions of real estate belonging to individuals, but believe that they and their ancestor-spirits belong to the forests of the Wanni which they inhabit and protect. Likewise, the concept of acreage is strange to them since they recognize only natural landmarks like hills, rivers, and villages. As a consequence of such cultural differences, the Wanniyalaeto have been repeatedly swindled out of their ancestral heritage by contrary interests anxious to seize control over Wanniya-laeto lands and forest resources. Such encroachment and economic exploitation has noticeably accelerated in the post-Independence era.

              Similarly, modern observers have typically been blind to the basic facts about indigenous culture. For instance, Wanniyalaeto social structure is a matrilineal exogamous clan organization based on female line of descent.2 In simple terms, the Wanniyalaeto are a forest people who trace their ancestry through their mother’s line back to their mother-ancestor, the yaka-princess Kuveni.

              This self-identification of the Wanniya-laeto differs radically from the definition of a ‘Vedda’ (‘hunter’) that was imposed upon them from outside with far-reaching social consequences. Hence, to colonial census-takers and other outsiders, a ‘Vedda’ was a primitive human-type of wild disheveled appearance, uncouth language and appearance, who resides in caves or wanders in the jungle, and who subsists by primitive means such as hunting with bow and arrows.

              Thus, by these misleading criteria, the ‘Veddas’ (a term never used by the Wanniya-laeto themselves) were doomed to disappear in the course of time. Indeed, according to census records the Veddah population actually fell from 4,510 in 1921 to 2,361 in 1946 while since 1963 no separate count has been made, although a 1978 study identified six thousand Veddas in the Anuradhapura district alone. 3

              This failure to recognize the Wanniya-laeto people’s own criteria of self-identification. Whether intentional or not, it has effectively accelerated their disappearance as a distinct culture and denied them representation in the democratic decision-making process.

              As a result of pervasive social discrimination directed against the Wanniya-laeto, many of their people have adopted a survival strategy that includes taking Sinhala or Tamil names for themselves and their children, adopting the prevalent language, diet, dress, and lifestyle patterns and becoming, nominally at least, Buddhist or Hindu converts. And yet, because their matrilineal ancestry goes unnoticed and unrecognized by the dominant patrilineal society at large, the Wanniya-laeto have been able to preserve their social cohesion and cultural self-identification even while immersed within the outward trappings of cultures very much unlike their own.

              A field study conducted in 1992 by a specialist in indigenous development policy from the International Labour Organisation succinctly summarized the plight of the Veddhas (Wanniya-laeto) with respect to current development policy in Sri Lanka: According to the existing studies, the majority of the resettled Veddhas are economically backward, socially isolated, and politically marginalised. The Veddhas did not have the skills, means and knowledge needed to either adjust to the new situation (no knowledge of capital accumulation or savings, no familiarity with the monetary system of exchange, no long-term involvement in agriculture as a livelihood, lack of incentive for competitive tasks, etc.), or to cope with the other non-Veddha settlers. As a result, they are being exploited by the other settlers who have control over the local political institutions and economic opportunities; in several cases attempts to get the Veddhas used to seasonal paddy cultivation have failed, thus worsening severely their livelihood since they do not resort any longer to hunting or food gathering. It has been pointed out that tribal peoples have suffered from depression and loss of confidence as a consequence of factors such as loss of land, loss of freedom of the forest and disappearance of ritual hunts as the causes of their demoralization. The situation has not changed substantially even after national authorities recognized the Veddhas’ desire to preserve their cults and customs and to be resettled in close proximity to their traditional lands. 4

              The same study traces the wholesale disruption brought upon Wanniyalaeto culture due to 20th-century development activities:

              The drastic changes in the number, distribution and social organisation of the Veddhas started in the 1930s and 1940s when large irrigation and colonization schemes in the Polonnaruwa and Mahiyangana regions were launched. These projects brought a massive influx of Sinhalese and Tamil colonists and a reduction of the forestland that was homeland to the Veddhas. In the 1950s when the Gal Oya scheme was completed, access of the Veddhas to their ancestral lands and their means of livelihood were eroded even more drastically.5

              Vedda kids
              Contrary to popular misconception, Veddahs are bright, intelligent and happy when left to live according to their ancestral ways.
              The Sri Lanka government’s concern for its indigenous people dates back to the early 1950s when a Veddha Welfare Committee was created as part of a Backward Communities Development Board. During this period, the prevalent philosophy of development regarded the disappearance of indigenous and tribal peoples as distinct societies as an irreversible and desirable process. Seen as backward and irrational, they were regarded as obstacles to national development and growth. Needless to say, such indigenous and tribal peoples as the Wanniyalaeto were not consulted for their views on the subject.

              Read on the link.

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                Your genetic affinity results quote from Internet is not definite conclusion. it contradict one another.there are few genetic affinities with indians specially north indians as well as Afghan and west Eurasians.As such according to new definitions sinhalese may belongs to same group of north Indians as well as west Europeans.it means homo sapiences root from west Eurasia to here in to our Island via rumania, Iran AFGHANISTAN,north western India, kerala and to our Island. that may be the reason that sinhalese show some percentage of genetic affinity with people living in those countries.that is the truth.homo sapiences came here via that root made great civilization called sinhalay here.with out anybody’s help.that is what new genetic affinity test results revealed. definitely not Indian origin as a whole.you quote contradictory results here and try to deceive readers in order to full fill your jealousy. you Muslims Tamils and maylays came here after fourteenth century.As you all are para fakeer not sinhalese.

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                  North India before partition, daughter of Doctor parents Mishal Husain BBC/CNN News reader plus business commentator asked Dr Nonis to almost shut up and put up when he said 2500 year culture- the interview is on youtube.- DNA??

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    Nobody, Buddhists included, has complete religious freedom in this country. Just try setting up a Mahayana Buddhist temple and you will see.

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