This is an edited Extract from For God’s Sake: An Atheist, A Jew, a Christian and a Muslim Debate Religion. Published July 2013 by Pan Macmillan. By Rachel Woodlock, Antony Loewenstein, Jane Caro, Simon Smart Read more
A crusader is shot by a Muslim warrior during the Crusades in c1250. Photograph: Hulton Archive/Getty /Guardian
Jasica David / July 2, 2013
The need for Myanmar like mechanism to deal with Islam.
Islam however, whoever says what, Is a barbaric religion. The religion asks to kill those who do not believe in Islam. The justification is, “it is better to kill them than let them live with no faith on Allah” so killing infidels is this justified as “for the betterment of infidels”
E.g : Quran
2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.
2:193 And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.
2:216 Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.
2:244 Fight in the way of Allah, and know that Allah is Hearer, Knower.
5:33 The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom.
In Islam, everything is governed under Quran. Children are taught only Islam, but not even a word about other religions. They are taught and trained to act as killing machines and spread Islam. This is the reason why Islam is very aggressive and Islam itself is terrorism.
When the majority of a country is Islam, they impose Sharia. They justify it as the “divine law of God”. Non-Muslims also need to adhere to sharia, or be punished under sharia. Non-Muslims are not given jobs/education or other opportunities. There will be taxes on non-Muslims, just because they are non-Muslims. E.g. Indonesia, Malaysia
See “Jizya” : e.g : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya
Why non-Muslims should pay Jizya : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6g9ohG-784
Muslims migrate to Non-Muslim country and slowly (yet steadily) grow their numbers. They act very innocent and get all the benefits under the majority. Most of the other civilised religions do not depress other religions. And Islam grows with no threat from the existing principle religion ( Buddhism or Christianity) once they grow the numbers, then ask for sharia and special laws. And when they can, they take the power of the country and make it a Muslim country. No democracy , no mercy for minorities there onwards. Non-Muslims are depressed and killed.
See why terrorism is allowed in Islam: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Why_Terrorism_is_Allowed_in_Islam
It is rather apparent the reference to “satin” in Christianity and reference to “mara” in Buddhism must be referred to the same, that is Islam and its God Allah. According to Christianity and to Buddhism, there is a dooms day; where e the world destroys, when people are sinners. It must be referred to a situation where Islam conquers the world. Or rather “satin” or “mara” conquer the world. Then the glory of the world is gone. And world get destroyed itself.
So via democracy, kindness the world simply cannot deal with Islam. Islam is such that It is like a cancer. By loving the cancer or by been nice to cancer, you can’t get rid from that. You need to treat the cancer in such a way to get rid from that.
The mechanism in Myanmar, is thus rather justified. Since they understood that Islam is growing and soon, they will be slaves under Islam hypocrisy and depression. A problem which cannot be addressed democratically or with a human feelings. Look, what happened in all Buddhist countries, in all peaceful countries. Islam enters and they simply destroy it. E.g. Sri Lankan, India, Maldives, Bangladesh etc etc.
The American Approach is better, but is in macro level. Mass scale Muslim depression. While America treats the would cancer like that, small nations like Myanmar or Sri Lanka need to act in a grass root level to get rid form the world cancer.
Sri Lankans, if they need to be safe, have to think about Something like in Myanmar, before it is too late. I think Sri Lankan Buddhist are ( or they used to be ) too good and too innocent. Bodu Bala Sena is doing a marvellous duty by making it clear to Sinhalese. Let’s hope the Glory of the world will remain longer, with No Islam Hypocrisy.
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Goraka / July 3, 2013
A German Muslim scholar was asked about Islam and terrorism. Here is his reply:
Who started 1st World War and 2nd World World? Was it Muslims?
Who killed 20 million Aborigines in Australia? Was it Muslims?
Who sent nuclear weapons to Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Was it Muslims?
Who killed 100 million Indians in N America? Was it Muslims?
Who killed 50 million Indians in S America? Was it Muslims?
Who took about 180 millions of African people as slaves, of which 88% died and thrown in the Atlantic Ocean? Was it Muslims?
No, they weren’t Muslims. First, you have to define terrorism properly. If a non-Muslim does something bad, it is a crime. But if a Muslim commits the same act, he is a terrorist.
First remove this double standard, then come to the point!
God says in the Holy Quran that you eyes may not be blind but your heart is.
So, Jassica David, remove your blinkers for God’s sake!
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End OF Islam / July 7, 2013
who raped 6 year old Aisha when he was 52, ? NAbi, is he a hindu, buddhist, ? no mut islam.
who destroyed Nalanda in ancient India ?
who destroyed Bharmiyan Statued in Afganistan ?
whic religion is a curse to the world ?
which religion kills animals in the name of god ?
Islam Islam Islam…
if u need more, we can give u more
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Amarasiri / July 9, 2013
Jessica,
It is About racism and Religious Myth “Racism”
Underlying that is the Monk Hegemony. The monks, are like the Lords and the People like Serfs.
The people exist for the well being of the Monks, Priests and Mullahs,
The Racist Sinhala Buddhists with their Monk Mahnama Racist Myths will keep blabbering their Myths until perpetuity. The curse of Lanka preventing an Egalitarian Society.
It is unfortunate that Buddhism was introduced to Sri Lanka,. Remember, LTTE attacked the Temple of the Tooth and Anuradapura, as they correctly identified the Core Problem as Sinhala Buddhist Racism.
While it is only a very small fraction of extremists who are vocal, but they create all the trouble, and the state aids ans abets in Burma and Sri Lanka. That is the core problem- a Law and Order Problem.
Even before BBS & Burmese Buddhist Terrorism, the Al Queda and other Islamic Terrorist groups selected Western targets to attack, due to its long history. They also attacked Shia Muslims, Sufi Muslims, Ahamadia Muslims and even Sunni Muslims on skewed Theological grounds.
The BBS and Burmese Buddhist Terrorists worked their way up, and joined the target list. Based on the Burmese Buddhist Terrorists and BBS Terrorists activities, and the reports like Time, Buddhist Terrorism is no longer an Illusion. It is real. The SAri Lanka and Burmese authorities are not taking any meaningful actions, for Law and Order, and letting the Theravada Buddhist Monks run Amok. Under this anarchy, any actions against the Buddhist Terrorist will be considered illegitimate, by their peer Terrorists.
This action, reflects the failure of the Burmese and Sri Lanka authorities to keep Law and Order and protect its Citizens.
So the counter terrorists, seem to have attacked the point of interest to the Buddhist terrorist, Bodhi Gaya. It is unfortunate, but still brings forth the fact that it was as a reprisal for he Burmese Buddhist Atrocities.
Myths: They cannot sort out their Myths by Reason, Debate and Logic.
The Early chapters of Mahawansa are full of Monk Mahanam Racist Myths.
Remember, Buddhism grew at he Expense of Hinduism, Zoroastrianism and Animist Beliefs.
What Buddhist and Islamist need to do is by reason and factual data, prove that one is better off being a Buddhist being subject to Monk Hegemony, as opposed to being a Muslim and being subject to Mullah-Cleric Hegemony.
Looks like Buddhists are not interested in that.
Is Nirvana, Nibbana, Rebirth, Sansara, Heaven, Hell, Purgatory Real?
-Religion is the Opium of the Masses- “Prophet” Karl Marx
Need Msao Tse Tung’s Cultural Revolution to clean up these Myths.
DeJa Vu…
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Mohamed Marzook / July 2, 2013
To say it in short you want the Muslims to be killed to settle your unfounded anger with them. Then all the conflicts in the world will be solved, is it? What a fallacy spelled with hate?
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Sangakkara / July 2, 2013
If a religion is strong and stable then why does it need to be protected by ‘mere’ human beings ?
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AYMAN / July 2, 2013
ISLAM HAS NOT TO BE PROTECTED BY HUMANS. ALLAH SAYS IN QURAN HE WILL PROTECT HIS RELIGION AND BOOK.
Significance of the Quran’s Preservation
Allah promised in the Quran that He would take on the responsibility of protecting His final word from loss. He said, “Verily I have revealed the Reminder (Quran), and verily I shall preserve it.” (Surah al-Hijr (15):9)
Thus, the Quran has been preserved in both the oral as well as written form in a way no other religious book in history has.
Why did Allah preserve the Quran and allow His earlier books of divine revelation to be changed or lost?
The answer to that question lies in the following three facts:
The earlier prophets and their books were sent to a particular people in particular periods of history. Once the period ended, a new prophet was sent with a new book to replace the previous book. So, it was not necessary that these books be preserved by Allah. The preservation of the earlier books was left up to the people as a test for them. Thus, when the people went astray, they changed what was written in the books which their prophets brought in order to make allowable the things which were forbidden to them. In that way, all of the earlier books of revelation became either changed or lost.
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the last prophet whom Allah sent, and he was not sent to a particular people or a particular time. He was sent to all of mankind until the end of the world. Allah said in the Quran
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Sangakkara / July 2, 2013
What are His earlier books you refer to have been changed ? Please mention what these changes are.
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Roshi / July 3, 2013
But Allah could save Muslims in myanmar ? if Allah can protect his books, why not his own people who worship five time a day.. go to hell.
what a fake religion. what idiotic people
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kayal / July 3, 2013
Because, they are not worshiping in the manner how Allah wanted. That is the reason even 5 times praying people go to hell.
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End OF Islam / July 7, 2013
Allah Just told Bodu Bala Sena that Sri Lankan Mulslims dont worship phoperly to Allah. so to destry them.
So we are doing it for ur benifit man.
Allah s wish.. so dont worry.
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kayal / July 7, 2013
Hello End of Islam, I thing you have not read my comment properly. I said Because Muslims are not observing the religious duties, they are destined to go to hell. Nothing to do with BBS or any one committing atrocities against muslims that are happening in this life at present. Open your eyes.
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Nabi / July 7, 2013
what sort of God is that ? to kill those who dont worship him. A devil he is. cant be a god.
what if SL muslims dont pray properly. ? im sure that is why allah is punishing them now vis BBS.
so that is what god wants man,…..
Islam should be wipedout. if not they will use the same reson to kill non muslims.
“they dont believe is god, so kill them”
thank for telling us ISlamic point of view about non-muslims.
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kayal / July 7, 2013
Dear Nabi, you lost the thread I believe. See my comment to our friend End of Islam.
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Mohamed Marzook / July 5, 2013
Prayer alone nor good deeds alone saves a Muslim from the Almighty’s punishment. Both are essential. Have you already been to Hell to know who has gone their already. That shows ignorance. The Day of Judgement on which the Almighty decides on who will go to Heaven or Hell is yet to come, but could be at any time.
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Ben Hurling / July 9, 2013
There you go.
Both Islam and Catholisism rule by fear.
Rather than faith based on free will and through analysis of what is being preached in these so called religions.
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Amarasiri / July 10, 2013
Roshi,
“what a fake religion. what idiotic people”
Examples:
1. Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism: Q. Is there is no Nirvana, and Rebirth?
2. Judaism, Christianity, Islam: Is there Hell, Heaven, Limbo and Purgatory?
Roshi, can you give proof for Nirvana, and Rebirth?
Is this all fake, for the Monks to maintain Hegemony?
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ONE / July 2, 2013
Religion is an emotion and there is no rationality – only I saw so be faithful and follow me when the seer himself does not know to which hell he would go one day. If they knew they would be winning the lottery always.
Religion leads to conflict when its public not private like some are.
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Amarasiri / July 10, 2013
One,
1. Religion helps believers to die, based on their Myths of afterlife.
2. Religion helps believers to persecute and kill others , based on their Myths of afterlife.
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Amarasiri / July 2, 2013
Religion? What is it?
Karl Marx is more correct, Religion is the Opium of the masses.
Need to add, Religion is the System for maintaining the Hegemony of Priests, Monks and Mullahs over the people by Controlling the people in collaboration with the rulers.
Read Martin Luther and his exposure of the Catholic Church Imperialism, Monk Mahanama Myths and the Wahhabi-Saudi Dynasty Alliance.
Akbar the Great, had debates, and concluded none of the religions , Islam, Christianity, Buddhism , Hinduism, etc had the answers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akbar
Religious policy
Portrait of the Mughal Emperor Akbar invocation of a Dua prayer.
Akbar, as well as his mother and other members of his family, are believed to have been Sunni Hanafi Muslims.[108] His early days were spent in the backdrop of an atmosphere in which liberal sentiments were encouraged and religious narrow-mindednness was frowned upon.[109] From the 15th century, a number of rulers in various parts of the country adopted a more liberal policy of religious tolerance, attempting to foster communal harmony between Hindus and Muslims.[110] These sentiments were earlier encouraged by the teachings of popular saints like Guru Nanak, Kabir and Chaitanya,[109] the verses of the Persian poet Hafez which advocated human sympathy and a liberal outlook,[111] as well as the Timurid ethos of religious tolerance in the empire, persisted in the polity right from the times of Timur to Humayun, (the second emperor of the mughal empire), and influenced Akbar’s policy of tolerance in matters of religion.[112] Further, his childhood tutors, who included two Irani Shias, were largely above sectarian prejudices, and made a significant contribution to Akbar’s later inclination towards religious tolerance.[112]
When he was at Fatehpur Sikri, he held discussions as he loved to know about others’ religious beliefs. On one such day he got to know that the religious people of other religions were often bigots ( intolerant of others religious beliefs ). This led him to form the idea of the new religion, Sulh-e-kul meaning universal peace. His idea of this religion did not discriminate other religions and focused on the ideas of peace, unity and tolerance.
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kayal / July 3, 2013
Amarasiri, which religion you are following ?
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Amarasiri / July 3, 2013
Kayal,
You are asking the same question an Indian once asked me.
To what caste do I belong to. Without putting me into a caste, he was fully confused, and discontented.
This is the CORE problem in Sri Lanka and other places. You are brown, but cannot tell the Caste and Religion. They want each Person, is needed to be put into a category of Caste or Religion. Then the person will be looked at using Caste colored, Race Colored or Religion colored glasses and graded based on the Myths taught. Like the myths taught against the Tamils to the Sinhala Children and adults and the Monk Mahanama Myths from Mahawamsa.
Religion is a virus. Once infected you come under the control of the Monks, Priest and Mullahs. The infected person believes every Myths spilled out by the Monks, Priest and Mullahs.
Read Martin Luther. Google Martin Luther.\, as examples.
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ann / July 3, 2013
I fully agree with you. Religion has become a cancer.Eveybody has their own religion.
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kayal / July 7, 2013
Amarasiri does not have religion. He is an Egalitarian. ie. A person always criticizes on others practices
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Abdul Rahman / July 2, 2013
What a Racist point of view. Trying to annihilate a race because of racist view of perceived future is bad. It is not only bad for one race but bad for all race. Buddhism came to sri lanka by annihilating people see Maha Vamsam history of Buddhist. Ashoka who promoted Buddhist principles did kill mankind with out mercy. Arakan was a Muslim State and separate from Burma(Myanmar) and Burma(Myanmar) later annexed it. Trying to destroy history of Muslims does not promote Buddhism. What did Golden Horde do Mongols were Buddhist nation who chopped from head of running horses and drank its blood. They cut open belly of women. They murdered the innocent. They put up innocent people as human shield. Baghdad was ransacked and Black smoke was filled even the river changed colour. But invading army accepted Islam.
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Roshi / July 3, 2013
Abdul Rahman,
you show picture of a typical uneducated, ignorent and stupid muslim.
1) king assoka wans not budhist and when her turned to a budhist he gave up killing.
and you arefue that Asoka killed in the name of budhism. what a shame.. ignorance is a bliss, for muslims and people like you.
you are enf evidance that muslims cannot understand anything but killing. all you know is your fake god and how to kill. how to call other religios places as “islamic” places.
The point Jasica David brings is justified by what people like this, say.
the world should
1) prohibit islamic practices in civilized world
2) no mulims should be given visa to enter europe or any other civilized non-mulims county
3) all muslims in non-mulsim countries should give up Islamic practices and conver to some other civilized religion.
4) stop importing oil from mulim countrues.
5) catagoriez islam as a baberic / unacepted religios practive and prevent all such people entering civilized world
6)capture all muslim counties by mass bombong and killing all blood scking muslims
7) however, peace loving muslims should be given a chance to surender and give up there baberic practices
8) remaning muslims should be made slaves and prohibit having children
then only peace will be on earth
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kayal / July 3, 2013
Roshi, off course do not import any oil from muslim countries. Let us use fire wood.
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Amarasiri / July 3, 2013
Roshy,
Get educated. That way, when you add 2+3 it will be 5 and not 7.
Do some reading as well. Here is some help for you. It will improve your general knowledge, nobody will accuse you of poor general knowledge, and normalize your Myths.
You are equating Wahhabi with Islam. Actually, Wahhabi was prompted and funded by the British, to stir up Arab Nationalism against the Ottoman Turks, and then the British and French took over the Arab lands.
The Wahhabi and the West are buddies.
The Buddhist and the Wahhabi have one thing in common, Their Own Myths.
Islam:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam
Christianity:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity
Judaism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism
Hinduism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism
Buddhism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism
Jainism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism
Sikhusm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism
Zoroastrianism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism
Taoism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism
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manel fonseka / July 3, 2013
Simon Smart says of the “millions killed” at the hands of the church…historians now suggest around 5,000 – 6,000 over a 350-year period. That’s less than 18 a year.” Well, that’s one way of looking at it, I suppose.
I guess he is referring to the period around the Inquisition etc.
I wonder how he would react to Jose Saramago’s novel:
THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JESUS CHRIST.
After recounting the names and horrific manner of death of the many early Christian martyrs, Saramago’s ‘God'(telling Jesus his plan for him), says,’in a tired tone of voice’
‘There is still the Inquisition, but if you don’t mind, we’ll
discuss that at some other time…The Inquisition is another
long story…It’s best you shouldn’t know.’
Saramago (ex-Roman Catholic) presents a God whose church is to have solid foundations created from ‘abnegation, tears, suffering, torment,’ etc. I don’t know if the Portuguese writer was excommunicated (if he was) before or after this novel, but I wonder how the Roman Catholic Church dealt with his notion of a bloodthirsty god.
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citizen / July 3, 2013
Doesn’t Religion Cause Most Of The Conflict In The World?
Of Course!!
Religions, Humanities, and Good Preaches are hijacked by Ganja + Kasippu + Politicians + Corruptions + Murders + Rapists + Cronies + Greediest + Haters + Evils + Fools + Poisoners + Bullies + Weak-minded + Abusers + Etc..
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Maghribi. / July 3, 2013
Conflict begins when rights of each other are violated. Injustice, oppression drives people to take extreme measures. Conflict begins when blood, honour and property rights of each other are violated. People in power are busy creating conflicts within communities to stay in power indefinitely.
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Number one talk / July 3, 2013
Problems is not religions but in the minds of people. Who are not properly and religiously educated and trained in religion: look at behaviours of some monks, had they been educated and trained in spirituality of Buddhism will they do like this in thief actions and behaviours: it is not Buddhists who should be blamed but a few extremists
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justice / July 3, 2013
All ignore what is happening in Tibet which was illegally annexed by China,and chinese are enforcing their own ‘brand’ of buddhism,in place of Tibetan Buddhism,by the most terrible methods – far worse than the inquisition,or by islamist states.
Tibetan Monks are self immolating daily and china is trying to hide this from the rest of the civilised world.
In sri lanka,even the Maha Sangha ignores the terrible genocide in Tibet,only because China has granted large loans – not gifts – to implement vainglorious projects by the president,his siblings and sycophants.
What price our “buddhism”?
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Goraka / July 3, 2013
A German Muslim scholar was asked about Islam and terrorism. Here is his reply:
Who started 1st World War and 2nd World World? Was it Muslims?
Who killed 20 million Aborigines in Australia? Was it Muslims?
Who sent nuclear weapons to Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Was it Muslims?
Who killed 100 million Indians in N America? Was it Muslims?
Who killed 50 million Indians in S America? Was it Muslims?
Who took about 180 millions of African people as slaves, of which 88% died and thrown in the Atlantic Ocean? Was it Muslims?
No, they weren’t Muslims. First, you have to define terrorism properly. If a non-Muslim does something bad, it is a crime. But if a Muslim commits the same act, he is a terrorist.
First remove this double standard, then come to the point!
God says in the Holy Quran that you eyes may not be blind but your heart is.
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Lester / July 4, 2013
Who started 1st World War and 2nd World World? Was it Muslims?
Who killed 20 million Aborigines in Australia? Was it Muslims?
Who sent nuclear weapons to Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Was it Muslims?
Who killed 100 million Indians in N America? Was it Muslims?
Who killed 50 million Indians in S America? Was it Muslims?
Who took about 180 millions of African people as slaves, of which 88% died and thrown in the Atlantic Ocean? Was it Muslims?
None of these things were done in the name of religion. For example, Hitler had plans to get rid of Christianity in Europe and replace it with a pagan religion. Makes sense, given the Jewish influence in the Bible.
“The outspoken pagan Rosenberg drew up a thirty-point program for the National Reich Church, created in 1936, which contains the following statements,
“The National Reich Church of Germany categorically claims the exclusive right and the exclusive power to control all churches within the borders of the Reich: it declares these to be national churches of the German Reich.
“The National Church is determined to exterminate irrevocably…the strange and foreign Christian faiths imported into Germany in the ill-omened year 800…
“The National Church has no scribes, pastors, chaplains or priests, but National Reich orators are to speak in them.
“The National Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible in Germany…'”
“On the altars there must be nothing but ‘Mein Kampf’ (to the German nation and therefore to God the most sacred book) and to the left of the altar a sword.
“On the day of its foundation, the Christian Cross must be removed from all churches, cathedrals and chapels…and it must be superseded by the only unconquerable symbol, the swastika.”[13]
http://www.conservapedia.com/Nazi_Party
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Amarasiri / July 5, 2013
Lester aka other Avatars.
“The National Church is determined to exterminate irrevocably…the strange and foreign Christian faiths imported into Germany in the ill-omened year 800…
“The National Church has no scribes, pastors, chaplains or priests, but National Reich orators are to speak in them.
Well, it is high time, Lanka sent back the foreign Buddhist religion Imported in 300 BC and the Monks, to India.
Keep the religions that were there before the Buddhist Monk Hegemony was Animism, Jainism and Hinduism.
After all King Ravana was Hindu and Civilized. Even though he abducted Sita, did not rape or kill her.
Bali Indonesia, 94% Hindu and peaceful.
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Lester / July 5, 2013
If you think Hinduism is peaceful compared to Buddhism, then you have never heard of Dalits.
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gaje / July 4, 2013
Most wars have been waged in the name of religion and ethnicity apart from the excuse of an empire! One has to realize that both these terms evoke emotions in the common man who will be willing to sacrifice their lives through these emotions used by power hungry leaders who justify religion and ethnicity for people to die on their behalf. Most who die in a conflict would not really understand why they had to sacrifice their lives e.g like a suicide bomber!!
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Number one talk / July 4, 2013
Not by religion we agreed. But why you says it is religion of Islam . Idiot read meaning of Islam . It come from peace. Which religion has it name from peace.
Lester you are most ignorant person about Islam
You take Islam from every one from google
From street men
From shoppers
From enemies of Islam
From books written by non Muslim
Can you learn Buddhism from bible
Clearness your from prejudice
Clean sins of your hearts
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kayal / July 4, 2013
Number one talk, I think we need to include Amarasiri also in the list. He has no religion and likes Marlin Luther and Wikipedia for learning about religions.
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Amarasiri / July 7, 2013
Kayal,
Very interesting!
1. Religion is needed because it helps you die, with the promise of afterlife.
2. For the believer, whether those promises are true or not does not matter much.
3. What are the Promises? Hell, Heaven, Purgatory, Nirvana, Nibbana, Rebirth, Sansara etc. Id there proof for these? NO. Why why continue?
4. Continue on Myths because it is the Self-interest pf the Monks, Priests and Mullahs and their sponsors the rulers and kings.
No independent confirmation.
Martin Luther C
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kayal / July 7, 2013
Amarasiri, from your comments, it is clear you have not studied the religions from where it should be studied.
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gamini / July 4, 2013
If only this God who is supposed to have created this world, gave one Religion and one Language to mankind, what a difference it would have made? Instead leaving it to mankind to develop different Languages and different Religions creating an unseen and unheard of God. Is it not that God created man, but Man created God?
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Mohamed Marzook / July 5, 2013
Mankind might be developing different Languages but not Religions. God sent Religions as guidance for the well-being of man.
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gamini / July 5, 2013
If a God created man, then for sure there would have been one Language and one Religion. But for the fact that man evolved and formulated many Languages and different Religions is ample proof that, it is man who created God, which is only a belief.
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I am no Muslim / July 5, 2013
This Creator God is the cause for all ills in this world. He started it all by choosing an immoral and incestuous man named Abraham as his first prophet and ended up with Muhammad a pedophile as his last prophet.
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Abdul Wahid / July 4, 2013
It is not that Religion is the cause for the most conflicts in the world but Man,He is the cause,he uses Religion as a TOOL to achieve
his nefarious ambitions.No Religion preaches to cause conflicts among
people and their Religions,Almighty Allah Tells in the Holy Quran to
His Prophet.Say(O Muhammed(Peace be upon him)to these Musrikun and
Kafirun);”O Kafirun(disbelievers In Allah,in His Oneness,in His Angles,in His Books,His Messengers,in the Day of Resurrection,and in
Al- Qadar,ect.)!”I Worship not that which you worship,
“Nor will you worship that which I worship”
“And I shall not worship that which you are worshiping”
“Nor will you worship that which I worship”
“To you be your religion and to me my religion.
That”s it, where the conflict here,it is a very clear evidence that Islam Do not bring conflict among Religion, same with other Religions.Man manipulate,Religious teachings,deviate from them to
achieve his worldly power and ambition in the name of Religion.
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Bang-cock Thai-land / July 5, 2013
To a non-Muslim, carrying on about ‘Allah’ is a load of jiberish
According to their books, it does not make sense, they have their take
What I can say; Buddha, Jesus and some others were hermits, simple people without many worldly desires, as such leaders of small sects (guilty emperors give it the global spark)
Mohomod though was a religious and a political leader, lead an ever increasing and large following, engaged in war (for survival or expansion).
The ideology; our version is better; a root cause; religion or philosophy, survival; the excuse.
This competition and killing runs through most of life; animal & plant.
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Amarasiri / July 7, 2013
Bang Cock Thai Land,
“Mohomod though was a religious and a political leader, lead an ever increasing and large following, engaged in war (for survival or expansion).”
What did Alexander, the Great do? He Expanded the empire and the people under him.
What did Julius Ceaser do. Same.
Genghis Khan do. Same.
Initially, for Mohamed, it was survival. Self defense. Then Expansion. The difference is that he added religion on top, which others failed to do. He claimed it was divine revelation, and God was on his side.
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kayal / July 7, 2013
Amarasiri, is that the reason why Michel Hart gave Mohamed the first place in his book (the 100)?
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Senguttuvan / July 5, 2013
Ideally, religion is spiritualism and philosophy in search of all that is good for man; a happy and orderly society. What is not ideal is all too often, particularly in the developing countries now, religion is hijacked by parochial interests and subverted to serve scheming narrower interests. Religion by itself is a desirable feature that preaches love, peace, unity and works towards the common good – except in rare instances.
Senguttuvan
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Haramanis / July 5, 2013
There is ample evidence for the existence of a bloodthirsty god. The Aztecs believed in him and took direct orders from their god the feathered serpent. The blood letting of the Aztecs who engaged in mass scale human sacrifice is legendary. The Christians were created in the blood of the maters persecuted by the Romans. They then went on to do unto others what was done to them. They slaughtered the Cathars, the Knights Templar and then the women for witch craft(Inquisition). This was accompanied by the Borgia popes and their greed for money and power while indulging in mistresses and having clandestine families and using their position to fleece the poor followers of their money. Then came the crusades. The fall of Jerusalem lead to the mass scale slaughter of all its Muslim inhabitants until the city ran with blood and stank for months. The Muslims had never witnesses such barbarism until then. They had treated the Christians who lived in the city with much more mercy. Islam itself seems to have been created by the same blood thirsty god if the writings in the Koran are to be taken seriously. However, most followers of Islam were and are peaceful.
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I am no Muslim / July 5, 2013
Most of religious conflicts today involves Muslims and others Christians and Muslims.
See, Northern Ireland (Roman Catholics vs Protestants), Rwanda genocide, Bosnia-Herzegovina (Muslims, Catholics and Serbian Orthodox) Sudan (Christians-Muslims), Ivory Coast (Muslims-Christians), Cyprus (Christians-Muslims), East Timor (Catholics-Muslims), Iraq (Muslims-Muslims), Kosovo (Christians-Muslims), Kurdistan (Christians-Muslims), Macedonia (Christians-Muslims), Middle East (Jews, Muslims, Christians), Nigeria (Christians-Muslims), Pakistan (Muslims-Muslims), Philippines (Christians-Muslims), Chechnya (Christians-Muslims), Somalia (Wahhabi-Sufi).
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Amarasiri / July 6, 2013
I am no Muslim,
So you are providing data in support of the Hypothesis by Karl Marx,
“Religion is the Opium of the Masses”
If you take it into another level, it is the Hegemony of the Priests, Mullahs and Priests.
It is or was true for Hinduism, Buddhism and Zoroastrianism as well.
In Lanka, it was the Monk Mahanama Monk Myths. Demonize everybody else,other than Sinhala Buddhists. That was not the religion taught by Buddha.
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reviewcric / July 5, 2013
” Religion is hate, religion is war, religion is fear, religion is rape, religion is obscene, religions a *****” – cult- slayer
I think this verse from the song by slayer sums up all religions. Religion is to control the weak. Save yourself people! Educate yourself! Question everything!
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ankara / July 7, 2013
“Educate yourself! Question everything!”
Can’t agree more. Guess who said it first.
“1 Do not accept anything on (mere) hearsay — (i.e., thinking that thus have we heard it for a long time).
2 Do not accept anything by mere tradition — (i.e., thinking that it has thus been handed down through many generations).
3 Do not accept anything on account of mere rumors — (i.e., by believing what others say without any investigation).
4 Do not accept anything just because it accords with your scriptures.
5 Do not accept anything by mere suppositions.
6 Do not accept anything by mere inference.
7 Do not accept anything by merely considering the reasons.
8 Do not accept anything merely because it agrees with your pre-conceived notions.
9 Do not accept anything merely because it seems acceptable — (i.e., thinking that as the speaker seems to be a good person his words should be accepted).
10 Do not accept anything thinking that the ascetic is respected by us (therefore it is right to accept his word).
But when you know for yourselves — these things are immoral, these things are blameworthy, these things are censured by the wise, these things, when performed and undertaken conduce to ruin and sorrow — then indeed do you reject them.
When you know for yourselves — these things are moral, these things are blameless, these things are praised by the wise, these things, when performed and undertaken, conduce to well-being and happiness — then do you live acting accordingly”.
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Thondamanaru / July 8, 2013
Going in terms of religion, Christians in this world can not open their mouth to comments when considering their past deeds.
Other than Christians, who else can not comment…. SPEAK OUT HERE ?
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Thondamanaru / July 8, 2013
aMARASIRI ; qUOTE “Initially, for Mohamed, it was survival. Self defense. Then Expansion. The difference is that he added religion on top, which others failed to do. He claimed it was divine revelation, and God was on his side.
Roman Empire too introduced Catholism to her expansion & it is called Roman Catholism with history of bloodshed.
No Catholic/Christian can speak out on conflict……….
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