18 May, 2021

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Let The Majority Community Racists Try To Understand What We Are Saying First

By C.V. Wigneswaran

Justice C.V. Wigneswaran MP

Recently, the following conversation took place between journalists’ and me:

Question: After your recent replies to questions posed and your maiden speech in Parliament you are being referred to as a racist. What have you to say about it?

Answer: According to Chambers Dictionary racism means belief in the inherent superiority of some races over others usually with the implication of a right to be dominant. It also means discriminative treatment based on such belief. 

I belong to the much maligned, discriminated, battered and bruised race in Sri Lanka – the Tamil Race. Have I talked of inherent superiority of my race with the implication that we Tamils have a right to be dominant in this Country?

On the contrary I am trying to put the record straight in a Country where one race on a false belief of their superiority over other races are trying to dominate us and other races. When I state the truth I am called a Racist. If so none could correct the false beliefs built up during the last century by the Sinhalese about themselves and Sri Lanka would have to continue to wallow in untruths and falsehoods. We are not asking that we should govern Sinhala areas. We want self-determination with regard to our traditional Homelands. 

When I state the truth I am called a racist because the Truth hurts. I have never been a racist though I am conscious of the antiquity of the Tamil Language (extant over 5000 years) and I have been introduced to its ancient Literature comparable to any Literature in this world. Tamil is a classical language. Very few Languages in this world could be classified as a classical language. Tamil is a living classical Language. 

Question: It is said that the written Sinhala Language may have come into use around the 6th or 7th Century AD and its first grammar Sidath Sangarawa written in the 13th Century. But prior to the written Language the Sinhala Language existed as a Spoken Language. That Spoken Language had existed for over 2000 years. What have you to say?

Answer: When an Indo Aryan dialect contemporary with Sanskrit and Tamil were spoken with no writings available they were called prakrit. Sinhala Language could have been derived from such prakrit dialects. But they cannot be called Sinhala prakrit because the Sinhala Language as a Language had not still been born. It is we who came centuries later who refer to the prakrit dialect as Sinhala prakrit. We identify later letters or words in the Sinhala Language and co-relate them to the old dialects as Sinhala prakrit. Such prakrit need not have evolved into the Sinhala language. It could have integrated with the Tamil language and there may not have been a Sinhala language.

There is no reference to a Sinhala spoken language prior to the 6th and 7th Centuries AD anywhere. Therefore there could not have been Sinhalese who spoke the Sinhala Language who existed prior to 6th or 7th Century AD. 

Tamil was the lingua franca of the Island of Ceylon then. If you say the prakrit dialect later became Sinhala Language and therefore both are same, it is like saying “I came from my grandfather; therefore I am my grandfather”!

The Sinhala Language is a very recent Language. At the time Buddhism was introduced there was no Sinhala Language nor Sinhalese who spoke that Language. The Language of that time was Tamil and those who spoke the Tamil Language were mostly the Naga Tamils. Devanampiya Theesan was a Tamil. Even Dushta Kamini (Dutugemunu) was a Tamil. He was a Tamil Buddhist while Ellalan was a Tamil Hindu. There were no Sinhala – Tamil differences at that time. 

When I was at Royal I went and asked the Principal Dudley K.G. de Silva whether I could do Tamil, Sanskrit, Pali and Sinhala for my University Entrance. He said that cannot be done since he could not arrange the Teachers accordingly. Many of my dear friends did Pali, Sanskrit and Sinhala with Ceylon History. If only any one of them did Tamil Literature they would have got a better idea of the Country’s history. Most persons today who speak of Sri Lankan history are not aware that there were Tamil Epics based on Buddhist themes existing over 2000 years ago.  

I know the Sinhalese have been fed on false data, false beliefs and false myths and legends that they have an inflated assessment of themselves. But we Tamils cannot help but tell the truth because the Sinhalese have based their racism on false data and information to discriminate against us and dominate us. I do not claim to be a Historian though History was a subject for my Degree. 

Either the Sinhalese intelligentsia must study their History and advise their politicians to accept Tamils as the original inhabitants of this Island and therefore give them recognition and accept them as a sister race of this Island and allow them to rule their traditional homelands under a federal constitution or have a referendum in the North and East to find out what they want or how they want to politically conduct themselves in the future and do what the people of the North and East desire or have an International team of Historians to study our history and state the truth of the antiquity of the Tamil Language and the Tamils in Sri Lanka and the recent formation of the Sinhala Language so that the majority Sinhalese would recognize the antiquity of the Tamils and grant them equal status under a federal constitution so that the Tamils could govern themselves in their own regions. 

Question: It is said the million odd Tamils who migrated to other countries from Sri Lanka are prepared to learn the Language of the country of their adoption and abide by the rules, regulations and laws of those countries but they refuse to integrate with their fraternal community the Sinhalese. What have you to say to that?

Answer: Do they accept us as their fraternal community? Then they should first cut down drastically on the number of soldiers and sailors in the North and East presently and treat us as a fraternal community instead of a subjugated community. In effect what you are asking is why do you go to your friend’s house and behave very obediently in the presence of their parents but while at home you are incorrigible in the presence of your parents!

When you are with your parents you are among your own kith and kin. Your own blood! They are not outsiders. We as kids could ask for food, presents, luxuries and we are sure our parents would consider buying them for us. 

The Sinhalese have not so far treated us as equals let alone as brothers and sisters. When we say the Sinhalese are discriminating against us, committing genocide against us we are sure we have a right to say so because this is our Country as well. It has been our country for over 3000 years. We have occupied discernible areas and we have been speaking the Tamil Language and following the Tamilian cultural hereditary identities. The trouble in Sri Lanka is that the Sinhalese do not want to accept that it was only in 1833 that the Country was made into a single administrative unit. Prior to that there were several Kingdoms and vassal states in this Country. The present North and East were always Tamil Speaking.

If you say we must integrate with the Sinhalese as our people integrate with outsiders in other countries, the Sinhalese must grant us our rights, accept us as their equals entitled to equal rights. Then certainly our people would integrate with the Sinhalese. You keep the political power with the Sinhalese and then ask us why don’t you integrate with us. What does that mean? “This Country belongs to us the Sinhalese. You are a minority. You have no rights of your own. So integrate with us”. We reply to that saying “We Tamil speaking are the majority in the North and East. We have always been such majority in the North and East. Accept that fact. Allow us the right to govern ourselves and then we could shake hands as equals and integrate”.

Question: Dr.Nilanga Samarasinghe a researcher at University of Lucerne, Switzerland has advised the Sri Lankan government to establish a centre to observe racial movements in Sri Lanka and take action against racism etc. His article was published in the Ceylon Today recently. Did you read it? What is your take on that?

Answer: There are a lot of words that are being bandied about by the Sinhalese and their Sinhala majority governments. Terrorists and Terrorism, Tigers and Eelam, Racists and Racism, separatists and separation and so on. This relates to the Tamils mainly. Similar jargon is also used against the Muslims at times.

The purpose is to frighten us. None of us are any of these. If they set up a Racism Centre the learned Doctor thinks we would not be able to talk about the atrocities so far committed by the Sinhala majority governments and their Military, we would not be able to point out the false history that has been perpetrated so far by the Sinhalese intelligentsia and we would not be able to stress our individuality. Don’t you think a Racism Centre being established by downright Sinhala Racists would be a big joke? Let the majority community racists try to understand what we are saying first instead of following JR and his Sixth Amendment to the Constitution! Please do not forget even after the Rajapaksas are gone like how the Bandaranaikes were gone after 50 years, the Tamils will still fight for their rights if they must. There have been 100 years’ Wars the World has seen. I think the learned Doctor’s ideas are puerile. 

*Justice C.V. Wigneswaran – Member of Parliament, Jaffna District 

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    I agree with what C.V.Wigneswaran said. But this will not help the Tamils hereafter because the Sinhalese are adamant that they are superior. The Tamils missed number of opportunities after the Indo-Sri Lanka Peace Accord was signed because of the stupid approach of the LTTE. It is time for the Tamil leaders to take adequate steps that will satisfy India. Separation is completely out of the question. The only remedies available are either Federalism or be an Independent Territory within the Union of India. The Sinhalese will never accept Federalism which was evident when they were reluctant to implement the 13th Amendment. The only solution for the Tamils is to request India that their area be declared an Independent Territory within the Indian Union as there is threat from China & Islamic terrorists which are bent on destroying places of religious and cultural interests. The Name Board at the Mount Lavinia railway Station is only in English & Chinese and Sinhala & Tamil have disappeared. Moreover, Tamils can allege that the Jaffna Airport had been deliberately closed. Since the international scenario has changed from that of 1987, it is vital that Tamils will have to join hands with India for all purposes, so that India can monitor all activiies of China and the Islamic terrorists.

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      Mr.A.R.
      You may acknowledge that in order to initiate a meaningful discussion on the subject of a ‘political solution’ definition of ‘Tamils’ is the most primary requirement(I mean who and who are included/excluded).
      .
      What is YOUR definition?
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      What is TNA’s definition?
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      What is India’s definition?
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      My definition is:
      All Tamil speaking people scattered across the island irrespective of their religion, caste or the date of arrival.

      Soma

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        soman

        I don’t speak for your stupid Tamil brethren, what I will say, though, is that anyone who believes he/she is a Tamil can still be part of Tamil people, except the Sinhala/Buddhists.

        This is not because they are good or bad people, it is because ancient Sangam Scholars/Poets dreamed of a world where they saw only goodness of people. It is difficult to explain to psychopaths like your heroes VP, Gota, Sarath, …… or you.

        Excerpts from the world they dreamed of is:

        யாதும் ஊரே யாவரும் கேளிர்
        தீதும் நன்றும் பிறர்தர வாரா
        நோதலும் தணிதலும் அவற்றோ ரன்ன
        சாதலும் புதுவது அன்றே, வாழ்தல்
        இனிதென மகிழ்ந்தன்றும் இலமே முனிவின்
        இன்னா தென்றலும் இலமே,

        To us all towns are our own, everyone our kin,
        Life’s good comes not from others’ gifts, nor ill,
        Pains and pain’s relief are from within,
        Death’s no new thing, nor do our bosoms thrill
        When joyous life seems like a luscious draught.
        When grieved,

        Kaniyan Poongundran, Purananuru – 192
        (Adapted from translation by G.U.Pope, 1906)

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          when I was a kid I didn’t know the meaning of the old Tamil word கேளிர்- Kaelir which stands for kin.
          so I mistook it for the word கேளீர்- Kaeleer which is to say something like ‘ let it be known or listen’
          so I understood it like…
          ‘ All villages(countries) are same as my village(country)’ ….everybody take heed’!
          :0:0

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          NV
          Thanks.
          You have provided your definition.
          Anyone who THINKS himself or herself a Tamil is a Tamil.
          Good.
          Now can you help further on their numerical distribution across the island so that a solution that can satisfy at least 90% of them can be fomulated.

          Soma

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            Oh dear Soma

            you recall all those gunned down in Jaffna because they paused questions like these to their voters and try to ensure their safe future away from the FP/TULF thugs disucssing Indian Workers right in Jaffna??

            This was a calculated event for maximum backlash so giving the FP/TULF. a comfortable reason for upping the stakes to armed struggle?? under Ganthiam as understood by Tamil Nadu then. They were not interested in serving the Jaffna Man nor the iNDIANS in the Sinhalese area?? just conmen doing conjob under language cover??

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              Indians know these guys very well as they were never equal to Ceylonese Tamils only to be used as “whatever” by the inherited estates.

              The vision to deport last 10 year arrivals back to India was a visionary act by the GOSL to shape the future for the Sri Lankans.

              This was the norm then (given the Brits just left this mess for all the Nations) 10 year period and this would have given the Indians much needed dignity living in their own home amongst their own people?? they were used by all the leaders ever since as their punch back as required.

              How disturbing this could have been for the youth who needed work then in the hill country??

              It is normal for any Nation to deport immigrant workers if they are excess to requirement? it is to date is the same …….I have now worked in several countries including sacral asians and western countries is the same too?? there is no one fighting for my human rights when I did not want to leave…I juts had to go.

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            soman

            As usual for a bigoted person like you Kaniyan Poongundran’s ideas on citizenship, nationality, humanity, life beyond artificial borders, right to life, ………………….. are too difficult and beyond you lot.

            Listen to Dr Abdul Kalam an Indian Scientist who explains a lot of things that your leaders are scared to utter and compare it with your scientists Channa and Nalin.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e23Evyrzdic

            There are many links available on youtube, spend some time listening to great souls rather than sitting on your head or letting Gunadasa Amarasekara (the most unhappy man in this island), HLDM, Wimal Sangili Karuppan, …. on your head. I can hear your scream, “let me breathe I am being suffocated by all my fellow Sinahal/Buddhist Anagarika’s Children” .

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5i415IvzwY
            Dax – Black Lives Matter (Lyrics) I Can’t Breathe

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          “Yathum Oore yavarum keleer” A simple meaning would be:
          (Every Country is My Country and every One Is My Kith and Kin))

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            ………but the Sinhalese say ‘The Whole of Srilanka is my Country and no one ese have any rights there”. Pity.

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      Dear AR

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG2RkKBHX0M

      I think you will like this. This Indian IT Christian lady now manning IT scope in the states was a GOP very concerned “American White men specifically” were not being treated by the Democrats humanly.

      Thank you for populating Singapore/Malaysia/WesternCountries and have populated the entire upcountry/planation sector freely migrating during colonial times making Independence in 1947/48 a joke for the respective countries and their population.

      Can you confirm how many Sri Lankans got Citizenship in India please who were Refugees??????

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        Dear AR

        Are you a Sri Lankan now settled in India?? do you have Indian citizenship given to you now???

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          Thiagarajah Venugopal,
          I am a Canadian citizen.

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            Thank you AR.

            Do you have any knowledge about how many Sri Lankans got the Indian citizenship in the past 40 years please. This is for our general info for discussion purposes.

            If not why not as you may have some connections in paces who shed some light for us please?

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              Dear T.V.
              I like the Tamils that fight for the Tamils and I like the Sinhalese that fight for the Sinhalese and I love and respect and admire the people who fight for the unity of all the races even more. sad for your life’s circumstances in which you had to go through things that no one should have to go through. but look at the greater picture and try to see if your stance help your people or the country. I had a father liguistically capable in Tamil and used it for Communist propaganda. while he was honest to the bone and few others not that much, we all suffered the consequences, I still don’t support my father using literary for propaganda alone. I moved on and have an independent view from my father which he would appreciate if he were alive.

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                Dear Jeeves

                I respect all you likes and dislikes and your life journey too. I will not dispute that whatsoever.

                I hope you do the same that I have my own life journey and my politics in my life is very independent as always have been………..so happened to look unto Mr Thiagarajah not as my father but as what was needed in politics in Sri Lanka for a great future. I am a great fan of people like him who die for the Nation.

                The journey I am having is participating in shaping what need to be done from now on as I did not take up arms to protect people like my Father then as was not prepared at that time. the cowards are awaiting my turn naturally should do so my duty to save my people.

                Thank you.

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                  So feel free to rid of our Nation from the FP/TULF thugs that you failed then that has landed us all where we are??

                  Never too late??

                  What do you know about late Mr Thiagarajah as an MP and as a Teacher and a social worker please?? I am curious to learn what you exactly know and what is that you dislike etc??

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              T.V,
              “how many Sri Lankans got the Indian citizenship in the past 40 years please?”
              “Finance Minister Nirmala Sitharaman
              Union Finance Minister Nirmala Sitharaman on Sunday said that there will be process to give citizenship to 95,000 Sri Lankan Tamilian refugees, despite that fact that it has not been part of the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA), 2019.”
              India grants an equivalent of dual citizenship (OCI) to qualified persons. Many SL citizens have received it, including Muttiah Muralidharan.

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                Dear OC

                I was referring to Sri Lankan refuges who needed up in India for the past 40 years in the UN camps etc.

                What you have stated is regarding Indian origins who emended up in various countries like Malaysia…..Sri Lanka….and all around the world during colonial times. Just like our upcountry Tamils too.

                India as part of their journey realise all these folks are their assets as well as India is ready to take ownership of their Indian expansion all around the world is now giving dual status to many around the world….is a very natural and positive progress for the Indians who are now citizens around the world through birth or otherwise.

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                  The GOSL who made agreement with the Indian government for the 10 year arrivals to return to India is what SJV formed a new party and brought those issue to Jaffna as though this was our problem?? rather this was SJV ;s problem for their estates needed work force in post colonial SL and in Malaysia too??

                  In fact Malaysia has abolished/cut back/redesign the colonial crops in a way that has disconnected the immigrant workers from India (now Malaysian through Birth) so they can diversify in various sectors…is a painful process with its own issues but getting solved systematically as all these needs time…time it is because what you said regard to OCI is benefitting India and the respective countries too politically ND ECONOMICALLY.

                  this has nothing to do with what’d not happen to SL refugees who had write their life away without proper UN work gone unchallenged?? FP/TULF and Mr Wiggy has more important things to do than fighting for these causes??

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                    OC

                    Would you agree with me in principle India did not comply to UN guidelines in giving all our Sri Lankan (not Indian Origin schemes and scams) refugees Citizenship………..nearly 200 000+++ people for the past 40 years??

                    At the same time Indian from Tamil Nadu who migrated to Western Countries pretending to be the Sri Lankan Tamils got the citizenship of those respective countries in a reasonable process??

                    What did the FP/.TULF politicians do about this?? where would I find documents that tells me their in-house discussion ion this matter and their discussion with the UN/GOSL/Indian Government raising welfare issues affecting those people ??

                    Given FP destroyed the country based on GOSL not giving citizenship to Indian Migrant workers who were not born in SL then??? We lost our Nation and life based on this shit stirring and where are we now?? who is compensating our life?

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                      TV,
                      I don’t think there is any UN protocol on giving citizenship to refugees, only on protecting them. Even SL didn’t give citizenship to Pakistani or Burmese refugees. Countries have different laws. If you manage to land in Canada, Europe, Australia, you may claim citizenship eventually, but not in UAE, Saudi Arabia, or even Sri Lanka.

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                  TV,
                  The minister was in fact referring to the refugees.

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                    Dear OC

                    I do not follow…I always referred to Sri Lankan Tamils who ended up as refugees in India during the war for 40 years. Nothing to do with Indian estate workers in the Sri Lankan upcountry etc??

                    (1) You are referring to our ministry giving more citizenship in Sri Lanka to Indians under CAA?

                    (2) then also referring to India giving dual status to Indians around the world under OCI??

                    I want to know how many srilankan Tamil refugees got Indian citizenship under the UN charter having been there for so long……..yes some have travelled from there to various overseas countries after hardships and wanting a life and some have return home after the war ended etc.

                    The question here is why did not India grant citizenship to all the Sri Lankan tamils who needed a home when they were destitute..specially they screwed themselves over the estate workers citizenship rights in Sinhala land?????

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                    Thank you OC.

                    Sure I respect. I wanted to confirm my understanding with others that no Sri Lankan Tamil refugees were given/offered Indian PR/CITIZENSHIP/PASSPORT since the war started in 1980’s.

                    FP/TULF never discussed this with India that they will use Jaffna children as mercenaries for Indian expansion project in upcountry SL where FP/TULF is the local proxy/supply chain of the unsuspecting children stolen form tuition centres in Jaffna…but when the going got tuff and the fisheries folks started fleeing to India to date no human rights discussion on this to date??

                    Our children were trained in India since early 70’s whilst TC and FP preparing for the separation drama under the disguise of democracy and killing off all their opponents using the children in Jaffna before they have taken the war to the GOSL?

                    NOT A SIGNLE COMMENTATOR CAN CONFIRM THEY KNEW THE NUMBERS OF iNDIAN CITIZENS FROM SL. Now you understand JVP atlas??

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                    TV,
                    You are confused
                    It is the Indian Finance Minister who is promising to give citizenship to Sri Lankan refugees.
                    The law in both India and Sri Lanka is that a person born in the country with at least one parent who is a citizen can apply for citizenship. In this case, even foreigners from SL are being given citizenship

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                      OC

                      Thank you…at last is happening to the newly born perhaps…but not for those who went their in the first place a mere 20 mile across the waters could not live freely and do their things?????

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                      I also know many woman folks from the coastal villages from SL were married to the opposite num bars in India…….and perhaps the Minister was referring to them as suppose to refugees who needed a home?

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                      Thank you OC and most appreciated. Yep she is referring to the 95 000 in the refugee camps without any strings attached I hope.

                      Very longtime to be in the camps?? I did hear bad things happened to many ?? I also heard good things too.

                      I did meet some folks who returned to the Trinco after the war and they said they did receive help building home with the GOSL (I seen their incomplete homes) but looked fine and the folks looked reasonably happy too. They did say they were looked after in TN very well (considering the difficulties local have with their life) and shown a lot of gratitude too.

                      Thank you for sharing this good news as hard for people to get back toothier origins after 40 + years. Same for me to as have nothing to come back to except my Dual nationality now.

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            A.R.
            When is the next battalion of IPKF due to land for the proposed anexation.?
            .
            Why have you abandoned your brothern to fight their own battles and instigate the next round from safe distance?
            Avoid next Thalaivar conscripting your children and/or organise arms and ammunition?
            .
            Good luck ( you need a lot)

            Soma

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              soman

              Mahinda and his crooked cabinet agreed to ban on killing cows for consumption. However he promised to let imported beef consumption on the insistence of Sinhala/Buddhists.

              It appears trade in beef flourishing now than ever before.

              Are the butchers illegally killing cows and selling it to the general public or the law banning killing cow has not been passed. If these were illegal killing, whats the hell are these saffron clad thugs waiting for.

              I haven’t heard any lynching taking place here.
              soman you disappoint me.

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      AR
      “The Name Board at the Mount Lavinia railway Station is only in English & Chinese”
      That is most interesting.
      Can you read Chinese? Are you sure that it is not Korean or Japanese?
      In any event, this piece of shocking news has escaped our media.
      *
      ps. Now that Sinhala too is disregarded, the Sinhalese too need a a shoulder to cry on.
      As the Chinese seem to be the guilty party, will the Islamic terrorists lend them a Hand?

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        S.J,
        It’s true and has been doing the rounds on social media. But it is sponsored by Mt. Lavinia Hotel and aimed at Chinese tourists. I think there are plenty of similar signs in French, German, etc in Colombo Fort.

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          OC
          Thanks.
          Interestingly, even the Sinophobic print media did not make an issue of it.
          There is more than a teeny weeny difference between a name board and a noticeboard that escapes prejudiced minds that rush to declare: “The Name Board at the Mount Lavinia railway Station is only in English & Chinese”.

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      I have a feeling that the Honorable Judge is purposely writing this kind of things, in spite of his inner voice, just so the Sinhala Majoritarian Supremacists can have a taste of their own medicine that they have been giving to the minorities since when they secured independence together with the minorities. Somebody has got to do this at the moment for the Tamils as well as the Sinhalese. While I agree with the facts, I am not interested in knowing what group is the most supreme because if I had no power whatsoever to cause myself to be born into the race that I want to be born in, what the heck is there to be proud of my achievement?
      I heard a story years back , second hand, of a Sinhala child, who was adopted by a Tamil couple, who joined LTTE after their parents died in an aerial bombing and was admired by his fellow militants for his extreme bravery. there are many ‘Tamil origin’ Sinhalese, meaning their ancestors were Tamils of Malabar origin, fought against the Tamils.
      so it is a glass (diamond?) ceiling that we can break if we put our mind and acts to it. the only requirement is to know and intern the fact that we all are equal and to treat all so.

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        Dear Jeeves

        Say you took arms and run around and shoot people say in London what will happen to you??

        Over time we can build up a story line based on real deaths/destruction agree??

        You see how the drama was built up from thin air to the massive losses of people.
        It happened because people like us did not do enough to protect our children from the FP/TULF/TN thugs??

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    Wiggy dear,
    I am disappointed in you. Prof. Hoole has bagged 300 comments. You should give him a chance to hit 400 before you start up.😁😁

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      OC
      You know that this is not Cricket– the game before One Day Internationals and Twenty20 took over.

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        SJ,
        But even more interesting!

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          OC
          Interesting, may be, but as the saying goes “It is not cricket”.
          *
          I was talking about supposed fair play, which I thought was your concern.

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            SJ,
            I was complaining about Wiggy starting another cat-fight before Hoole’s cat-fight ended. 😆😆

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              OC
              Thanks.
              But am I not entitled to some fun?

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    Tamil is not a race, it is an ethnic group and a language. There is only one race which is the human race. Pity he does not understand this.

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      Gatam,
      You perfectly know that should also be valid to SINHALA and Muslims. Do you think many down there in my home country would think about the human race. Today being led by high criminals, they behave more or less like 2-legged animals. People compare it with that of low lives in Indian continent. All these thanks to our rascal politicians that make every harm to live up their power hung ry tactics.

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        Lella,

        Don’t try to justify one wrong with another.

        Tamil is not a race, it is an ethnic group and a language. There is only one race which is the human race. Accept it.

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          There is also horse race among others.

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      Dear GATAM

      Wait till we export the FP/TULF/Hon Wiggy concept to all the countries where Tamils live……..it is a race…special race…….a race that ruled everyone before now back to doing the same again…………I am not sure what part of the FP concept since 1948 do you not understand?? it started with telling the Sinhalese why all the Indians should live in their home?????? you still doubt Tamil is a Language?? no according to UN is a race/language combined?????

      Sorry to let you know I have recently been told no longer belong to this race by the governing body in CT comment section.

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      Neither are Muslims , like you and the Sri Lankan Muslims love to state. It is a religious identity and not racial or ethnic. The so called Sri Lankan Moors are Tamil by ethnicity. South Indian Tamil to be precise with a little bit of Arab in a few hundred families. This still does not make them or even these families Arab , there are all Tamils. The word Moors was used by the Portuguese to describe their religion and not their race or ethnicity. They never originated from North Africa or were chased out of the Iberian peninsular , or even the Arabian Gulf but from Dravidian Tamil South India.

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        Funny the present day Sinhalese are largely descended from recent largely Tamil South Indian immigrants , the ancestors vast majority of the them only arriving in the island a few centuries ago. The same with so called Sri Lankan Moors . 99% of them immigrants from Tamil South India. The former now claiming Aryan origin the later Arab both now highly radicalised , believing in lies and myths , that are deliberately spread by their elite, politicians and clergy , so that they can divide and rule , are now ironically demanding the indigenous Eelam Tamils , whose ancestors have lived in the island for more than 3000 years to move the South India , from where the ancestors of most of the Sinhalese and Sri Lankan Muslims originated , as they do not belong . Vigneswaran is correct. Correct history must be told.

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        We don’t say Muslims are a race. Muslims are an ethnic group. There is only one race which is the human race. Those who do not accept it are racists.

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          They are not an ethnic group . It is a religious identity . They are Tamil by ethnicity. Ethnic Tamil Muslims in Sri Lanka are called Sri Lankan Moors. This so called different ethnicity given to the Tamil Muslims living in Sri Lanka was/is a deliberate move to divide and rule the island’s Tamils on the basis of religion , caste , origin and even region. To justify this artificial identity their religion and a minuscule amount of Arab amongst a few hundred families have been deliberately used. This is bull shit we all have some mixture . A little bit of Arab does not make them Arab or anything else . They are all still Tamil. Even if they want a separate identity they should be correctly identifies as Tamil Muslims and not Moors as they definitely did not arrive from North Africa or from any part of Arabia. They descended from largely low caste Tamil Hindu converts from South India with a dash of Arab/Iranian/ Afghan and North Indian. My ancestors originated from the North West part of the Indian subcontinent . this does not mean , I am a Punjabi, Iranian or Pathan. I am Tamil by ethnicity with a distant NorthWest Indian or Afghan ancestry

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    Minority community racists are not only deaf , they are blind too. Their vocals however are 100 deecibles higher and wouldn’t let us have a peaceful sleep for 70 years.

    Soma

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      “us” includes peaceful Tamils too.

      Soma

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      Soma,
      .
      go and see in a mirror.
      :
      Exactly the opposite is the truth. I am sinhlaya but I would not play housanas for our rascals. Let s join hand to clean OUR SINHALA facists/and racists.
      :
      Just imagine, ballige putha MR shamelessly went to join that innaugeration of WIND MILL project which was started and introduced by GOOD governance govt. Many more to come which have started under GG…. but beliaththa rascals would pain it as if they did.
      My gosh… as they line up to collect so called PANI BEEMA today, people like you are made permement blind and deaf …

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      What if SL had MPs from these parties,

      Sinhala National Alliance
      Ilankai Sinhala Arasu Kachchi
      Sinhala Congress
      Sinhala United LIberation Front

      who scream about

      Sinhala homelands
      Sinhala grievances
      Colonization of Sinhala lands by Tamils
      Genocide of Sinhalese in the north by Tamils?

      and,

      Muslim National Alliance
      Ilankai Muslim Arasu Kachchi
      Muslim United LIberation Front

      who scream about

      Muslim homelands
      Muslim grievances
      Colonization of
      Muslim lands by Tamils
      Genocide of Muslims in the north by Tamils?

      Then things will balance out.

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        GATAM

        please give this a time frame….say last 80 years only. What about the past 20 000 years??

        Please ask the Tamil Sangham to autogenerate some new Artificial Intelligence stuff please.

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      soman

      Was it true the Sinhala/Buddhist being a proud people who refused to work in the tea/rubber estates?

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        It’s true. Why didn’t the Ceylon Tamils work on the Tea estates? Why did the British have to import labour?

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          Stanley

          Thanks.
          If it was how come the proud people once refused to work for white man now competing among themselves to travel all the way to medieval middle east kingdoms where they are being degraded their masters, in some cases killed and returned in coffins?

          Don’t you think their claim to being proud people is the biggest lie ever told by the shameless nationalists just like their origin myth?

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          Why did the British bring a labour force from South India to their Tea and Rubber estates in Ceylon? Why didn’t they recruit Sinhalese, Ceylon Tamils or Muslims to work in their Tea and Rubber estates?
          It was not because the Sinhalese refused to work due to their ego/proudness (if that was true, tens of thousands of Sinhalese will not do menial jobs in the Middle East like slaves – exploited, abused, raped and humiliated), the British did not prefer them because they were lazy (not hard working). On the other hand, since the Ceylon Tamils were hard working and English educated (due to the American Missionary), the British recruited them to do white collar jobs not only in the Ceylon Civil Service but also in other British held colonies. The Muslims on the other hand were fully engaged in business and trading.

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          Stanley

          You are asking all the right questions…………then you will only receive abuse.

          My classmate and Hon Judge in Jaffna was shot at for asking all the right questions in getting the youth back to work??? I have folks who have to get their workers from down South to the North for normal Labourer work?

          I will do it if not for my bad back/spine…no one will employ me.

          They will all be filled up by more foreign workers if the locals do not take up?? rhesus a very big issue facing our Nation.

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        NV
        I don’t know.
        I never argue over history or genetics.
        My premise is the EXISTING DEMOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION across the island.
        Based on my definition Tamils are :
        ‘all Tamil speaking people scattered across the island irrespective of their religion caste or the date of arrival’ I am seeking a solution which can satisfy political aspirations of at least 90% of them.
        Having been associated with Colombo Telegraph for a considerable period of time I have discovered that:
        a) Tamil desire to live in Sinhala majority areas is the main obstacle in formulating a viable solution.
        b) Nothing terrifies a Tamil than the thought of living in a Tamil only enclave.
        c) Tamil racist donkeys on CT needs some coaching in elementary logic.

        Soma

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          Soma

          Are you saying FP/TULF never had a solution to Muslim needs and do not even know what they will do with the Tamils who do not live in Jaffna.

          Is it why they had them killed in the riots too and bought some more life style too?? more time to sit around and deliver death and nothing but death??

          Only country in the world a bunch of MP’s lived amongst their enemies, studied with their enemies, owned businesses amongst their enemies, ask living spaces for some other foreigners in even my lands, conducted war and killed their enemies whilst they lived amongst the enemies, went around the world and told pokies about their enemies (I’m agentry) to by western life style too, during the war lived amongst the enemies and after the war refused to go home too their territories, and some some retire and come to Tamil territories and talk through their back side whilst I am washing toilets somewhere else????

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            Dear Thiagarajah Venugopal
            “Only country in the world a bunch of MP’s lived amongst their enemies, studied with their enemies, owned businesses amongst their enemies, ask living spaces for some other foreigners in even my lands, conducted war and killed their enemies whilst they lived amongst the enemies, went around the world and told pokies about their enemies (I’m agentry) to by western life style too, during the war lived amongst the enemies and after the war refused to go home too their territories, and some some retire and come to Tamil territories and talk through their back side whilst I am washing toilets somewhere else????”
            .
            Beautiful.
            Allow me to copy and retain this for my future needs.

            Soma

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              dear Soma

              It is not beautiful but sad. My people have lost all our heritage to this FP blunder man.

              People like you should pick on the racists amongst the Sinhalese/someone should do the same in the Muslims so we could always argued for our united cause without any riots and dramas……..how come JVP did not go and look for the thugs who killed innocent Tamils then we could have all saved our Nation better ba long time ago??

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    The Sinhalese, unfortunately, refuse to understand any facts, which may not to be to their liking. They live in a world of illusion. They don’t want to accept the fact that the Tamil Nation was merged with Sinhala nation only in 1833, by the ‘bloody’ Britishers for their administrative ease and formulated a constitution giving powers to the Sinhalese when they gave the so called freedom.
    The Britishers have done considerable harm than good to the Tamils even after they left the island. They helped the Srilankan army to fight the Tamils, by giving arms to the the government, there after they send the Keeny Meeny to train the Srilankan soldiers, as if they were not aware of the operation, finally they supported the Srilankan army to fight the Tamils and were responsible for human rights violation and genocide of the Tamils along wit the Sinhala army. After doing irreparable damage to the Tamil Nation, they are shedding crocodile tears to satisfy the Tamils living in Britain for their votes. Even now, it not too late to intervene and ensure that the statuesque is restored prior to 1948 where the Sinhalese were only 4% of the total population in the N/East.

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      Mr.K.V
      You may acknowledge that in order to initiate a meaningful discussion on the subject of a ‘political solution’ definition of ‘Tamils’ is the most primary requirement(I mean who and who are included/excluded).
      .
      What is YOUR definition?
      .
      What is TNA’s definition?
      .
      What is India’s definition?
      .
      My definition is:
      All Tamil speaking people scattered across the island irrespective of their religion, caste or the date of arrival.

      Soma

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        soman

        I always wanted to ask you but never remembered it, never mind, tell us
        were you a born stupid or born racist or were you groomed to be a bigoted, ignoramus, racist, with attitude?

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          NV
          What is YOUR definition of’Tamils’?
          I mean who are supposed to need a ‘solution’?

          Soma

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          NV
          I am an unbiased observer – the kind that hypocrites hate most.

          Soma

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            The entire Nation needed solutions to their outstanding problems they had in the “past”.

            Therefore when we get our Independence we started addressing things accordingly just as other Nations were trying to do the same. We had a fair share of issues that required level playing fields as we moved forward or rather even to move forward…we were also learning on the job as we never had self administrative skills focused on serving our needs.

            Previous versions where the rulers used us as required to serve them…then again we found the Colonial babies try to take over matters from the departing colonies as they had too much to loose. we are here because of that cocky deeds by the few…we never questioned….or rather when we did someone started firing at us………yet to go through the trials.

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            soman

            “I am an unbiased observer – the kind that hypocrites hate most.”

            I understand your attempt at your deception.
            You are unbiased so long as everyone else agrees with you.

            Day by day you are becoming a smart ass clever dick.
            Shavendra and Kamal are not interested controlling CORVID 19 therefore
            take care of yourself.

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        Please do not ask for definitions. We have been talking. writing and fighting over the Tamil issue. There was not so much of an issue prior to 1920, when Ponnambalam Rmanathanm who saved the Sinhalese from Britishers was ‘taken for a ride’ and left at lurch. Unfortunately the Tamil leaders trusted the Sinhala leaders and rubbed soldiers with the Sinhalese and learnt a bitter lesson. Useless talking on illusive matters without an end.
        Whether you like it or not the Sinhala Nation and Tamil Nation were under the British rule till 1948. Take that as the base year and ascertain the population of Tamils and Sinhalese in the North East and divide- at least form a Federal State and live happily. You can put up a person who is really as sleep but not a person who pretends o sleep.

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        Whatever government rules, the Tamils don’t care because the discrimination against Tamils won’t stop. The Tamils have seen and experienced all these rulers. The Tamil-Sinhala conflict is not new to Sri Lanka. It is deeply rooted in the history. Elaras, Dutugemunus, Prabakarans and Rajapakshes will come and go but the Sinhalese and Tamils will stay forever. If the Sinhalese deprive the Tamil rights, they also will continue to suffer along with the Tamils as we have already seen. The country will continue to suffer and will remain a pariah state in the books of the International community. The history will continue to repeat until the issue is solved. We must understand this basic law.

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      You are correct Kanapathy , contrary to what the Sinhalese selflessly claim, the British never favoured the Tamils , either in India or in Ceylon but only used them , as they were hard working. They always favoured the Sinhalese as their elite and upper classes used to suck up to them in all manner. They also mistakenly thought the Sinhalese, were indigenous to the island and like the North Indians and Pakistanis were Brown Aryans and their distant cousins , so deserved better than the non Aryan Tamil outsiders. The British have done considerable harm to the Tamils , like what you stated they overtly and covertly helped the Eelam Tamil genocide and now are only crying crocodile tears but still helping the Sinhalese racists and the Sri Lankan government. If they really wanted safeguards for the Tamils , they should have seen to federal setup or divided the land as they found it. Seen to it that the Indian origin estate Tamils were not made stateless. They did neither, as they did not care , only wanted the Trincomalee base . Listening to some stupid Colombo based Tamil elite who were more Sinhalese than Tamil is no excuse.

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        Remember in Kerala the British were instrumental in the destruction of the local Tamil dialect or language, that was written in the Tamil script( Malayalama ) that was language of the vast majority. On the advise of their allies the Namboothiris and other anti Tamils, the very same Malayali communities that connived with the Rajapakses in the Eelam Tamil genocide in 2009. They banned this language( Malayalama or Malabar Tamil) in the 1820s, destroyed every trace of it and made the Grantha language of the Namboothiris , written in the Tilgari script ,that was then only used by 15% of the population in Kerala as the official language of Kerala and cunningly changed its name to Malayalam. As a sop to the majority Dravidian population in Kerala , lots of Tamil/Dravidian words were introduced into this higly Sanskritized dialect. This is why simple spoken Malayalam is almost Tamil , whilst the written form and what is used in the media is this Grantha Bhasha. The Tamils should take action against the British for all the harm they created and are still doing.

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    It may be mentioned that no Sinhalese Kings or Tamil Kings from the south ruled the North and East at any time till DS Senanayake Cheated the Tamils,

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      Kanapathy Varunan,
      If you do not know the history of Sinhale, country of Sinhala speaking people that is your problem. North East was where Sinhala Buddhist civilization flourished under Sinhala Kings. For short periods Dravidians came and occupied Northern part of the country and massacred Sinhalayo and destroyed what they built. Go to Anuradhapura and Polonnaruwa and see the left over from the great things Sinhalayo did in the past.

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        Looks like you do not know the history of anything. Sinhalese civilisation in the north and east flourished ! When? After independence with fake history and state aided Sinhalese colonisation and large scale ethnic cleansing of Tamils , especially in the Trincomalee and Amparai districts. Most of your so called Sinhalese kings were all Tamil and so were all your aristocracy. The Sinhalese were slaves of the Tamils until the arrival of European colonial powers. The Sinhalese were largely ruled by South Indian dynasties /Tamil kings and aristocracy. The arrival of European colonials, especially the British saved you Sinhalese as a people . The Portuguese and the Dutch doubled the number of Sinhalese in the island by importing hundreds of thousands of Tamil low castes from South India to do menial service work and settled them along the southern and western littorals. Their descendants are the so called Sinhalese Karawa, Salagama, Durawa, Berewa to name a few . The British merged the Northern and Eastern Tamil lands with the Sinhalese lands in 1833 to create a new colony called Ceylon, with the capital in Colombo and by this one act made the Sinhalese who were only so far confined to the southern , western and central parts of the country ,

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          When did the Sinhalese civilization in the north and east flourish??? Bhuvanekabahu VI (Sapumal Kumaraya aka Chempaha Perumal) the adopted son of Parakrama Bahu VI was ruling Jaffna in the 13th Century AD. He built the premier shrine of Tamil worship – the Nallur Kandaswamy Kovil in the heart of Jaffna for the people of peninsula. Why did he build the Hindu Nallur Kandaswamy Kovil in the 13th Century AD for the so called ‘Sinhalese’ of Jaffna? LOL!

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        Eagle. You seem to be happy in Fools Paradise. There were enough and more Tamil Buddhists too, both in Srilanaka and India. Manimekalai the daughter of Mathavi and Kovalan was one one little example.

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        Blind Eye

        “Go to Anuradhapura and Polonnaruwa and see the left over from the great things Sinhalayo did in the past.”

        First you go and do a DNA test then read good history book.

        What you are referring “Sinhalyo did” – all from south India. Not by Sinhalyo.
        This might help you https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCI-ByshABtjbwW0FmagzOoA

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        Hello Eagle Thaatha . Please stop mumbling and crying . Why the meals are not to your liking , at the Aged Care Home

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    Dear Mr Wiggie,

    You were with Wasidewa the most abusive man, but you could not achieve the little. It is all because you are no different to that of dried pumpkin Wasidewa. If you had been sensitive enough, you could really achieve a lot. Look at Mandela and Gandhi the way they achieved their goals at least to some extent.
    .
    Dont you think if you the kind of senior men could see it right, things would have gone for the benefit of the masses in this country. Knowing that majority of racists are there, why to provoke them the manner you have always been upto. Just tell us one good thing you could achieve you becoming a politician? I think you are totally a failure in the representation of srilanken tamils. YOu should have thought this long back now. I do believe young politicians in northern srilanka could achieve lot more. Look at that moderate politician,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBT1_5ZrW7w
    :
    See how young men work proactively today.

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    Look forward to free entertainment when colourful comments keep rolling!

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      SA
      Entertainment in inverse proportion to enlightenment.

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        SJ,
        Wiggy’s commentary is uninspiring, unimaginative and repetitive and does not serve any purpose apart from generating entertaining comments. Perhaps, this is precisely what Wiggy intended to achieve.

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        Oops!
        I seem to have tread on the toes of some entertainers.

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          SJ
          I took the bait!!

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    Do they accept us as their fraternal community? Then they should first cut down drastically on the number of soldiers and sailors in the North and East presently and treat us as a fraternal community instead of a subjugated community
    REALLY – AFTER YOUR RACE TRIED TO CREATE A SEPERATE STATE MILITARILY AND THEN VIA POLITICAL PLOTTING. Sinhalese in Sri Lanka should be mad to think you have given up this idea, and we will not reduce the security and open our selves to terrorist issue. Latest clamor mine found when ex-LTTE couple transporting it based on a over-seas call. Imagine if we have normal tourism and another BOMB goes off due to some diaspora Tamil had excess cash and wanted a BANG?
    “The Sinhalese have not so far treated us as equals let alone as brothers and sisters.” Tamils politicians should denounce federalism and agree to unitary state. Also Tamils can have best of both worlds – buy land in Galle, Matara and Wellawatta, but they have Thesawalam law only for them for land sales in Jaffna? Who is getting special privileges now? Can Sinhalese buy land in jaffna? Give up and come to one-law-one country?
    He was a magistrate and a judge of the District Court, High Court, Court of Appeal and Supreme Court.

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      Our Inability to Learn from History has been the BIGGEST drawback.

      Throughout the entire history, right from the beginning, Sri Lanka had NEVER been a mono-ethnic (Sinhala) country but was always multi-ethnic country and the best evidence to prove it is found in non-other than the Pali Chronicles.

      As mentioned by CVW, throughout the entire known history this island had Never been a unitary state. It was always a Northern kingdom (Anuradapura) and a Southern kingdom (Rohana), or Kotte/Jaffna/Kandy kingdoms (Ruhunu/ Pihiti/Maya) or the federal Provinces under the colonials. Even after the European colonialists (Portuguese, Dutch and British) arrived, until the British united the Tamil speaking North to the Sinhala speaking South in 1833 for their convenience in administration, the Tamil speaking areas remained a federal region.

      Those who are talking about a unitary state should ask themselves what the country gained by introducing them in the constitution. It only created a war that destroyed the country and its people for 30 long years. It is not the matter of winning the war, what created the war and how much destruction it caused, how much it cost in terms of lives and property is what we should ask and how it dragged the country down to the state of a poor begging state is what we should think about.

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    Wiggi – your begging for your land in north saying that it was held majority by Tamils 1500AD and etc etc. SO then same way American Indians (Native Red Indians ) should say America is their land? Get the white man out? only 400 years of Europeans in USA?

    How about the Inuit (group of culturally similar indigenous peoples inhabiting the Arctic regions) of Greenland, Canada and Alaska asking back for those countries?

    How about the Aborigines asking for whole of Australia from Whites?

    History and mankind doesn’t work that way, the victor rules and vanquished live within. This has happened for 50,000 years. If you expect Sri Lanka to split into 2 countries or to have 2 states through federalism (pre-cursor to separate countries) – and expect the Sinhalese majority to stay quiet or accept without a whimper – your delusional and senile in your old age.

    Ask your In-laws and he will give you some wording in a colorful Singhala language.!! :)

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      cmember

      “SO then same way American Indians (Native Red Indians ) should say America is their land?”

      Leave the American Indians (Native Red Indians ) to deal with their land problem and let C.V. Wigneswaran deal with his people problems.

      “History and mankind doesn’t work that way, the victor rules and vanquished live within. “

      Please explain as to why history and mankind doesn’t work that way.

      “If you expect Sri Lanka to split into 2 countries or to have 2 states through federalism (pre-cursor to separate countries) – and expect the Sinhalese majority to stay quiet or accept without a whimper”

      No you should not keep yourself silent, kick yourself on your back, bang your head on the nearest wall, scream as loud as possible, ………………. Stop being a stupid and stop asking stupid questions.

      You should always remember the period between 26 Mar 1971 and 16 Dec 1971.
      By the way were you born stupid or groomed to one?

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      cmember
      Looks like you are totally ignorant (similar to many others), do not know anything about what federal means. In a federal system, anybody and everybody can move from one state to another without any restrictions. Take some examples of countries with federal states like the USA, India, tiny Switzerland, etc. If an American citizen wants to go from Texas and settle in New York or an Indian wants to go from New Delhi and settle in Tamil Nadu or, a Swiss wants to go from Zurich and settle in Sion, he/she does not need any visa/passport or change in citizenship. Similarly, in a federal Sri Lanka, if a Sinhalese from Matara wants to settle in the NE or a Tamil from Jaffna wants to settle in the South, he/she does not need any passport or change in citizenship.
      A federal Southern province means the people of the South are given freedom to look after their own affairs and a federal Northern Province means the people of the North are allowed to look after our own affairs. It is a process of decentralization where power and wealth is shared. It attempts to protect the regional interests in a country like Sri Lanka where the population is so diverse with different needs and political views.

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    The name of this country was Sinhale because the people who evolved in this country spoke Sinhala language. In 1815, few dumb Sinhalayo handed over Sinhale to British and they changed the name of the country to ‘Ceylon’ to erase Sinhala identity to please Malabar Vellala Tamils who teamed up with Brits to oppress Native Sinhalayo.
    Sinhalayo shed their blood and sacrificed their lives to protect this country from Dravida invaders who invaded this country 52 times starting from 3rd Century BC. Sinhalayo shed their blood and sacrificed their lives to liberate their country from colonial rulers. Sinhalayo shed their blood and sacrificed their lives against separatist Tamils who wanted to grab part of this country to create a separate State. If Sinhalayo hand over part of their country to a community consist of the descendants of invaders, people brought to this country illegally by foreigners and illegal immigrants they are doing a great injustice to hundreds and thousands of Sinhalayo who shed their blood and sacrificed their lives to safeguard territorial integrity of their country.

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      Eagle Brain Dead Blind Eye

      Don’t let HLDM sit on your head.

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        Native Vedda?
        Who is sitting on your head, Ganda Nath Obesekaran?

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          Eagle Brain Dead Blind Eye

          “Who is sitting on your head, Ganda Nath Obesekaran?”

          You stupid dumbass, HLDM’s b***s carrier, learn to respect learned people. You are not even able to spell names correctly.

          No one sits on my head.

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        Demalu Veddo,

        Accept man your home is Tamil Nadu. You have no homeland in Sinhale

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          RAVI PERERA
          Your ancestors are Sinhalised Tamils brought to Sri Lanka by the Portuguese/Dutch from South India as menial laborers/coolies and settled in the Southern and Western parts of Sri Lanka. They adopted the Portuguese surnames (Perera, Fernando, Silva, and so on) to hide their original South Indian Dalit names and got converted to Sinhala Buddhists. Your grandfather may be able to tell you from which Tamil Nadu Dalit village your ancestors came to SL and got converted into Sinhala-Buddhists.

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          RAVI PERERA
          The Sinhala Speaking Demela

          “Accept man your home is Tamil Nadu.”

          Have you decided stay here despite the fact that your ancestors came on kallathonies and converted to Sinhala/Christianity and then to Sinhala/Buddhism?

          ” You have no homeland in Sinhale”

          Of course there is no homeland in imagined land.
          I am not interested in your homeland.
          I am interested in reclaiming my ancestral land which you might find surprising, the entire island.

          Next time around when you visit Hindians for debriefing find out how soon you could get your Hindian passport. You may have to leave this island sooner than later unless of course you have already relocated to another country by the means of Kallathonie, on false passport or doing difficult job in Medieval Middle East Kingdoms? I suggest you apply now.

          Take care, as Shavendra and Kamal are fighting the LTTE even 11 years after the end of the war. Sarath Weerasekera has just launched a war on non existent LTTE diaspora. Go join him.

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            Demalu Veddo,

            “Have you decided stay here despite the fact that your ancestors came on kallathonies and converted to Sinhala/Christianity and then to Sinhala/Buddhism?

            Unlikely, since my family displays characteristics that are completely different to that of the ugly Tamils.

            Great piece of entertainment.

            Just accept man, you are a second class citizen in Sri Lanka

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              RAVI PERERA
              The Sinhala Speaking Demela

              “Unlikely, since my family displays characteristics that are completely different to that of the ugly Tamils.”

              You may be right.
              The entire country has been at the receiving end of your family’s loveliness, in 1915, …..1956, 1958, 1961, ……1971, 1977, 1983 1987-1990, 30 years, ………….

              Your family’s characteristic was seen not only by people of this island but by the entire world, ……………. Why did you burn Jaffna library and Hartley College library.

              Go beg Hindians for next meal. Chinese are willing to buy the entire island for a knock down price. Sell it to them. Then lets talk about ugliness of people little man.

              Keep sending your woman folks to medieval middle east kingdoms while you hang around diplomatic missions for the next fix.

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    The fact is whatever be the history, ALL citizens in this country cannot be discriminated on account of ethnicity or religion. It looks as if the question-and-answer session does not deal with the present but lives in a past. What matters is the amity of people and not division. If you look carefully there are quite a lot of similarities in both the ethnicities that is mentioned here but again and yet again, we prefer to deal the dissimilarities differences and “who is first or superior”. If we choose to talk of issues and problems people of each ethnicity and religion in Sri Lanka has their own tail of woo. If we fight, we invite foreigners and could be foreign troops. My friends in the East tell me how the women there, especially ones sporting a red dot on the forehead, had a horrible time with the IPKF by the implied requirement of being attired so that they can easily be raped. Is this what we want? I can speak for my self by saying that I do not like that situation.

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    “We Tamil speaking are the majority in the North and East. We have always been such majority in the North and East. Accept that fact.”

    BS!
    This guy knows very well that this is a lie but he keeps on repeating this relying on Gobble’s theory.
    Tamils became majority in North East after Portuguese brought hundreds and thousands of Dravidians and dumped in Yapanaya.

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      Eagle Brain Dead Blind Eye

      “Tamils became majority in North East after Portuguese brought hundreds and thousands of Dravidians and dumped in Yapanaya.”

      Very well, please cite some evidence.
      Not from Jaffna Histoty.

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    Mr. Wigneswaran,
    Can you please tell us:
    • What is it that the Sinhalayo are enjoying that the other communities are not enjoying because they are not Sinhala?
    • What is it that the minorities do not enjoy because they are the minority which the majority enjoys because they are the majority?
    • What is legally, constitutionally and legislatively given to the majority that is not given to the minorities?
    • What is it that the Sinhala Buddhists are enjoying that the other communities are not enjoying because they are not Sinhala Buddhists?

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      Eagle Brain Dead Blind Eye

      “What is it that the Sinhalayo are enjoying that the other communities are not enjoying because they are not Sinhala?”

      Stupidity.

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        Native Vedda?,
        Tamils enjoyed ‘Stupidity’ more than Sinhalayo and ended up in Nandikadal converting ‘Armikarayo’ to ‘Ranaviruvo’.

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          Eagle Brain Dead Blind Eye

          “Tamils enjoyed ‘Stupidity’ more than Sinhalayo and ended up in Nandikadal converting ‘Armikarayo’ to ‘Ranaviruvo’.”

          Have you done any comparative studies on stupidity of Tamils and Sinhalayo (whoever that is)? Please let me have a copy of your study.

          Did you count yourself as
          Kallathonie Tamil convert,
          Sinhalayo (whatever that is),
          Bengali,
          Ibn Batutta’s descendant,
          Zheng He’s (eunuch) orphaned children
          Ravana’s distant relatives,
          Portuguese stowaway descendant
          Dutch Malakan slave Balthasar ‘s descendant
          Descendant of Rama’s Monkey Armikarayo
          …..
          …..
          ….

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          RAVI PERERA
          The Sinhala Speaking Demela

          Brilliant.

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      Eagle,
      “What is it that the Sinhala Buddhists are enjoying”
      Genuine registered Sinhalayo have tails because their ancestor was a lion.
      Like you do.
      So the rest of us are very unhappy.

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    Based on this rascals history making where they have the innocent Tamils killed thorough their unrelenting provocation of Sinhalese I can see how they are cooking up the next one already.

    I strongly suggest all the Hill country Indians/Muslims/Sri Lankan Tamils to move to Jaffna for safety please. Make this a permanent move as this is going to continue until the last man standing.

    Only the FP/TULF/TNA is safe in Colombo.

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      Thiagarajah Venugopal,
      “I can see how they are cooking up the next one already.”

      This is the reason why I wrote many a times in this forum that Colombian Tamil elite politicians who dance according to the tune of their foreign masters are the main obstacle to reconciliation and peaceful co-existence of Tamils and Sinhalayo in this country.
      While they keep on oppressing their own people in Yapanaya, these hypocrites shout about human rights violations and war crimes during the military operation to liberate all Sri Lankans from LTTE terrorists.

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        Eagle,
        “these hypocrites shout about human rights violations and war crimes during the military operation”
        Nice to see you admit that there were violations. Keep it up!

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    this is how FP/TULF created 1977 and 1983 riots.

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    Does CT has a normal photo of Mr Wig without the hand and fingure gestures etc. Man of 70++ have him seated somewhere and take a normal photo and publish please.

    We all too familiar with the Suthenthiran photos for the past 80 years that brain washed our people and we starting a new round with this immigrant from Colombo another round? who Brough him to the scene the FP/TULF?????? India first and now the Colombo man………….if the residents of Jaffna do not get this by now????? Do you all know the FP/TULF leaders history/their general life style/International and National interest?

    Who is going to tell you?? where would you find it?? wikipedia????????

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    Remember The Sri Lanka flag –
    Orange strip was for Tamils and Green was for “All other minorities”.

    But now Green has become for Muslims and Orange for “Tamils and all other Minorities..!!

    Tamils have been hoodwinked by Muslims, and Praba had the sense to get rid of them from North. But now the tamil leaders and not aware of the flanking attack from East.. !

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      SAM,
      Unfortunate thing is those who made this change to the National Flag have put Vedda Eththo who are Native people like Sinhalayo into the foreign origin (Para) group who settled down in Sinhale.

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    Dear SAM

    What is being ng cooked up here or rather being BBQ for the past 80 years is all about we killing each other. Some of our idiots either literally idiots or cowards (FP/TULF) themselves walked us all into this trap.

    The fact we can not even demand normal service from an elected MP (North and East) and still survived to date with foreigners molesting our children is a credit to the Nation……….Mother Lanka is unbelievable in her nature to forgive.

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      OH shut up .Pathetic creature

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        Siva Sankaran Sharma.
        Are you telling this to Hon. C.V.Wigneswaran M.P?

        “OH shut up .Pathetic creature”

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          No to you and to the imbecile who constantly posts rubbish and posted the comment before me about foreigners molesting children.

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        Dear SSS

        I am still awaiting for some simple answers for 2+ years on how many SL refugees got the Indian Citizenship to date please??

        I can help you on this journey so you can move through the FP/TULF fabs and fobs over time to liberate yourself……….that is the only liberation you need to be a SL Citizen??

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          Hi Venu Kutti . I see people are abusing you here and you still crying for turncoat Appa. Do not worry . Please watch on Youtube Sai Pallavi’s Telugu dance Vachinde and learn the dance moves , It will do you a lot of good and bring you lots of joy

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            Dear PK

            I been called an imbecile by Anna SSS? what does it mean? do you think is something nice or bad?

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              Anna? How old do you think I Am? Most probably Periappa. Hmmm, Very insulted and will not call you Kunju or Kutti but Vennu Kurangu

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                ok la but what imbecile means??

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                  PK

                  Imbecile – people with moderate to severe intellectual disability according to the dictionary.

                  You called me Kurangu……………all these are very conflicting interns of IQ.

                  Which is correct please?

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      Thiagarajah Venugopal

      “Mother Lanka is unbelievable in her nature to forgive.”

      True it not only forgave rioters, murderers, rapists, looters, arsonists, crooks, robbers, war criminals, ……………………….. but elected to the highest offices of the land.

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        All the killers you mentioned above have nothing to do with the Majority of the people of Sri Lanka?? does not matter whom they pray and what language they speak??

        Why are you relating the criminals/thugs to the common man and woman NV??

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          Since Oct 1983 I have seen riots, racial killings and non racial killings, abuses, systematic structure rural racism in the UK that we all worked within the system to make changes through understanding, sacrifices etc….this does not make the British People Racists?? is the same that applies to SL too??

          On the other hand I have noted many whom came to settle here in the uk been unfair to others including their fellow man and woman who came from SL?? what does sit tell you?? we do not generalise and confuse matters?? stay focused and address issues accordingly??

          Conflict resolution is not even you throw in few hundred years of stuff into a bag and find solution?? as though we are all angels??

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            Thiagarajah Venugopal

            “……………….. this does not make the British People Racists?? is the same that applies to SL too??”

            Since you are living in your mother country it is for you to make the necessary adjustments where possible. In fact I applaud your attempts.

            Let the stupid people of this island try their best on their own.
            Why should they follow you?

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              Now you are scraping the barrel NV………a man who writes so much non sense unrelated any discussion even run out the normal utterance??

              I see Dr GS started with LRT’s for Jaffna? why do not you start on a project of rocket to mass fromJaffna or something like that please??ask the GOSL to show sincerity by launching this immediately.

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      “foreigners molesting our children “

      Really, are your children or wife raped in UK? Did you complain to police? If you are not willing to take this matter to the police of your town, but going to come back to CT to baffle more, you should see a psychiatrist.

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        dear M

        From 1970 onwards our children were taken away to India for arming and training and that is the biggest abuse that ever took place in SL? under the direction/watch of FP/TULF??

        From your writings I have always realised how little you know about what happened in Jaffna? not to worry and go back and read some utter rubbish got written by the Suthenthiran part political news paper??

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          Thiagarajah Venugopal

          “From 1970 onwards our children were taken away to India for arming and training and that is the biggest abuse that ever took place in SL? “

          Are you going ga ga?
          Was it in 1970 or in 1980?

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            70’s

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              Thiagarajah Venugopal

              1980s

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              Dear NV

              You are nearly off by a wapping 10 years…making all our discussions to date completely null and void?? perhaps as usual going ga ga consistently.

              or maybe a calculated diversion to my line of discussion??? only a FP/TULF lawyer can do that worried about the case being made here without the case maker getting bumped off??

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                Thiagarajah Venugopal

                “From 1970 onwards our children were taken away to India for arming and training”

                Please revisit your history.

                It was not until 1980s Tamils went to India not only as refugees but also as members of various armed group for training.

                Now get on with what you want to type.

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                  You are factually not correct. You are rewriting history I know why…because now the 1+1 beginning to appear 2 after a very long gap(40 years) where thuggery and gun ruled the day of “expansionism” of foreign powers another state sponsored acts that has ruined our land. All you imaginary writings has gone unchallenged for so long……..including Tamil Sangam rubbish.

                  We need to get our folks to start thinking for them again you see how this is going for them now with the same parties in different guise sucking the last bit of blood?????

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          Sorry man, my dictionary giving a meaning to the word molester: “Harass or assault sexually; make indecent advances to ”

          Are you sure you are understanding the meaning & effects of the words you are reading and writing to frame in & depict your opponents?

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            Dear m

            When the Jaffna children were missing from schools/colleges and tuitional centres none of the parents knew what happened to them in 70’s.

            We later learned they have been taken to various training camps in India and many did come back to do the killings too including their families/village folks/neighbours/enemies in their society etc.

            All these were happening under the supervision of the FP/TULF.

            So forget your dictionary and focus on asking for the policy reports and news paper reports then as to what happened to these children please.

            You an die can help the Hon Judge in identifying the missing for some of the families and bring justice to many others who died in the hands of these children too.

            We need to investigate what happened in the training camps by a International body??? UN ?? then only you know what child abuse means??? you are talking about a subject you just have no idea nor do you care?

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              ” You an die can help the Hon Judge in identifying the missing for some of the families and bring justice to many others who died in the hands of these children too. “ Then what the heck are you doing in UK. Why don’t go, tell Aanduwa in Lankawe to deal with missing persons’ mothers in the way you think? What is wrong? Is there Puttu Katti in your mouth or fearing if you go to Lankawe King will hang on the Boo Tree for your imbecile bluffing? Did you hear the Paranagama Commission was forcefully closed because missing persons’ relatives complained to UNHRC that in the cover of investigation they were brutalized by rapist CIDs & Army? Did you ever come face to face with these families that you pretend to be worried a lot? If not, why? Don’t be that nasty; if others show respect to family’s dead one you, must be oblige to avoid you facing retaliation. Heed some useful words please! Don’t play with the plights of these miserableness, who are striped of everything they had by tyranny Aanduwa. You can sleep on any queens’ lap, but don’t drag these helpless into your marketing. I am sorry man, your teasing is limitless. That is can be because of your foolishness or might have been physically hurt on when you were a child.

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    Chinese coming to Lankawe don’t speak Sinhala or Tamil or English. Only Sinhalese speaks Chinese with them. In Kalkissa railways station, billboards are only in Chinese and English. In some Muslims restaurant menus are available in English and Arabic. Why then Sinhala Buddhists are concentrating on Tamil.
    Tamil went out to foreign countries only after JR killed, burned, raped, looted &arson their belonging and confiscated their real properties in south. Tamil engineers, accountants, doctors & other professionals went there as refugees and washed dishes for their life. They less worried about how the hell going to be their life in the new land as long as they had run away alive out of Wildlife Sanctuary. Any Singhalese, who are going out of Lankawe, only speaking, studying and working according to that country’s law, wherever they are. They never insisted to Sinhala only to start their life, there. Tamils are not doing anything different from Sinhala Buddhists, inn that matter. Recently Singapore lawmakers refused to change Hindi for Tamil as one of their official language, saying Tamils was the language there when the modern Singapore is formed. Tamil was one of the Languages when modern Ceylon was formed. Not Chinese or Arabic. English should not have removed without Tamils consent and Sinhala Only could not have been installed.

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      Enough is Enough
      Boycott Muslim eateries that undermine the Sinhala language.
      Why should we eat Parana Muslim Kththu and get “badegaya” all the time…

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        WK

        You just sounded like the FP/TULF thugs and why??

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          OK OK

          I don’t mind going to a good Muslim Hotel
          And having a nice koththu

          provided it is hygienically made and I don’t get “badegaya”

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            WK
            How many Sinhala bathkades and Tamil Thosaikades are hygienic?

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    Thiagarajah Venugopal, Soma,
    The reason why I mentioned that the international scenario in the 1980s is different from that of today, because China had become a threat to all the communities in all countries. It is meaningless to talk of our rights and religion because of the foolish behaviour of our politicians. There are good people among the Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims. Since we are weak against the mighty China, it is better to be under a powerful Nation that can stand against China. Let Sri Lanka be two Independent Territories within the Union of India. The demarcation of Tamil areas is an unwanted problem. Let the North-East Province be a Tamil Pradesh & the rest of the Provinces be Sinhala Pradesh. If this is done the Sinhalese & the Tamils will be united and no need to change the Constitution at intermittent periods. The burning solution of the Tamils for the last 70 years will be solved automatically. The Sri Lankans will not have any problems in travelling to places of religious interests in India. What is the guarantee that China will not torture the Sri Lankan religious dignitaries and destroy the religious places of worship & religious texts, when the members of the Church of Almighty God are been tortured to reveal information in China.

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      Dear AR

      In a democracy we always respect others points of view and your kind explanation too for others consideration/understanding. Most appreciated.

      We the non FP/TULF always respected (fully respect you are not aligned to any parties) others point of view and let people be elected based on their campaigns and peoples vote. Be it a non democratic campaign itself was a learning curve for our people an experience we can not deny others. We continiously and literally took bullets to do so since 1970 – 1988 -1981 in Jaffna. History speaks for itself.

      When the “others” could not respect is what I set out to demonstrate to the world how this was done on the ground using the CT forum that the so called human rights liberators living in democracies are capable of denying a fellow man his life/rights/respect. These are records I will publish to make the case why the democracies should expel these souls from their soils soon to do some Nation building in SL.

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      Dear AR

      Start writing about the killing fields in Jaffna from 1970-1987-1981 please. It will be a great contribution to our people.

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      AYATHURAY appai,

      “Let Sri Lanka be two Independent Territories within the Union of India. The demarcation of Tamil areas is an unwanted problem. Let the North-East Province be a Tamil Pradesh & the rest of the Provinces be Sinhala Pradesh. “

      You can amuse yourself with this kind of nonesense in your twilight years.
      We will never surrender our land to Tamils. In time to come the sinhala will be an outright majority in Vanni, only Jaffna will be kept for tamils, just like Yala is for wild animals. Our threat is from you demalas and not china. China can be an issue in the future and if they do, there will be many countries that will go under there control just like what happened with England

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    We must all agree that we’ve been grieving ever since independence. So let us look at the 5 stages of grieving.
    The 5 Stages of Grief
    We go through five distinct stages of grief after a loss in the case of Tamils and I’m one of them; Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and finally acceptance.1
    Denial
    The first stage in this theory, denial helps us minimize the overwhelming pain of loss. As we process the reality of our loss, we are also trying to survive emotional pain. It can be hard to believe we have lost an important battle in our lives, especially we feel that it was an essential war, though it lost direction somewhat
    Sinhalese are also suffering from the same affliction of Denial in the International arena as they are accused of gross war crimes and it is blatantly being overlooked.
    Our reality has shifted completely with the new Government of Criminals who have raped mother Lanka up the wrong end in their previous tenure. It can take our minds some time to adjust to this new reality. wondering how to move forward in life as Sri Lankans.

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      Nirmalan-Nathan

      “We must all agree that we’ve been grieving ever since independence.”

      Its not true.
      My people have been suffering since Kallathonies started arriving on boats in large migration, according to Mahawansa it was since 500 BC.

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      We empathize with Tamil grieving however it is sad because the Tamils have got selective amnesia when it comes to Sinhala and Muslim grieving and they have no sympathy or empathy whatsoever for the thousands of innocent non-Tamils killed by the LTTE with the blessings of the Tamil Diaspora.

      There will be no reconciliation until all parties concerned acknowledge the injustices that were committed in the name of Self-Determination Vs the Unitary State.

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    CVW is absolutely right. Ancient Brahmi inscriptions of Lanka had been written in an Indo-Aryan Prakrit language. In the early 20th century, the German Pali scholar Wilhelm Geiger labelled it as Sinhala Prakrit and Senarat Paranavitane named it as Old Sinhala. However, it has been shown that very similar Prakrit inscriptions were also in existence in South India. The hilarious part is, if you remove all the Sanskrit and twisted/corrupted Tamil words from the so called ‘Sinhala Prakrit/Old Sinhala’ there will be nothing left.
    Both Geiger and Paranavitane never bothered to learn the Dravidian languages to interpret the Ancient Brahmi inscriptions more correctly. Had they known as much of Tamil language and literature as they knew Pali/Prakrit language and literature, they are not likely to have made so many misleading slips in their comments and notes in dealing with Tamil words and place names in the Prakrit inscriptions and Pali texts. A considerable number of them appear to be Tamil terms and they could be easily explained drawing comparable material from ancient Tamil Sangam literature as well as ancient Tamil inscriptions in Brahmi.
    The Sinhala language started developing very much later and first appeared only in the 8th century CE Sigiri mirror wall writings. The earliest Sinhala writings such as Siyabaslakara and Elu Sandas Lakuna do not lead us beyond the 9th Century AD.

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    How the hell can the Sinhala Racists understand when the Tamil Racists cannot accept that Sri Lanka is a unitary state?

    Boycott all Tamil shops that undermine the elected government of Sri Lanka.

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      Whimpy Stupid Kid

      “How the hell can the Sinhala Racists understand when the Tamil Racists cannot accept that Sri Lanka is a unitary state?”

      When did this island become an unitary state?
      What is an unitary state anyway?

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        Aiyo NV you are a “periya karachchal”
        Please check the Oxford dictionary

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        Native,
        That’s the same dictionary that defines “federalism” as “terrorism”
        It is difficult to find.

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    Why is Vigna shouting about Racism. In actual fact he is one of those who is practicing and one of those who paved way for a racist government to get majority. Vigna made racist statement when he was the Chief Minister and continues to do it. He also helped Rajapakses by not joining TNA there by reducing the authority they had as one voice of the North and East.

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    The Sinhala Language is a very recent Language. At the time Buddhism was introduced there was no Sinhala Language nor Sinhalese who spoke that Language. The Language of that time was Tamil and those who spoke the Tamil Language were mostly the Naga Tamils. Devanampiya Theesan was a Tamil. Even Dushta Kamini (Dutugemunu) was a Tamil. He was a Tamil Buddhist while Ellalan was a Tamil Hindu. There were no Sinhala – Tamil differences at that time.
    C.V.Wigneswaran
    The claim Nagar spoke Tamil and even Dutu Gamini (Dutugemunu) was a Tamil is preposterous. It is not supported by historical facts.
    There is no doubt that Nagars were the predominant tribe in ancient Lanka besides Iyakkar. They did not speak Tamil but spoke a different dialogue. If the Nagar did not speak Tamil they are not Tamils.
    Devanampiya Tissa did not speak Tamil and certainly, he is not a Tamil. His father is named Mootha Sivan only denotes he was a follower of the Vedic (now Hindu) religion. Mahavamsa (Chapter IV)) says King Devanampiya Tissa and Mahinda Thero spoke in the language of the island.
    In addition, The Buddhist epic Manimekalai cited by Wigneswaran says the Nagar spoke a different language and not Tamil.

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      Muta-Siva means elder Siva in Tamil language. Can you please tell us in which Vedic language or in any language (Hindu or other) where you find the term Muta or Moota? In other words, could you please give us the meaning of the term moota in any language other than Tamil? If the Nagas did not speak Tamil or Sinhala, then what did they speak? Nagas belonged to both Sri Lanka and South India, they also lived in Tamil Nadu, eg. Nagapattinam, Nagakovil, etc.

      The Dravidian tribes who lived in the island (Nagas and others) have adopted a certain percentage of Prakrit into their otherwise pure Dravidian dialect which they now call Sinhalese. The Sinhalayas who are pure Dravidians (primarily Tamils) imbibed a certain amount of Prakrit into their Dravidian language (due to influence from North Indian traders) and the adulterated language is called Sinhala. This language shift alone cannot make those pure blooded Dravidians into Aryans as they attempt to portray.

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      “Devanampiya Tissa did not speak Tamil and certainly, he is not a Tamil. His father is named Mootha Sivan only denotes he was a follower of the Vedic (now Hindu) religion.”

      Leave alone historical facts, even for argument sake, the name Mootha Sivan, even leaving alone Sivan part of it, we find Mootha (மூத்த , மூத) only in Tamil even now. No any other current languages have that word.

      Even Muta (முட்ட) is only in Eeezham Tamil. only Eezham Tamils can understand the significance of t i

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        Correction:

        Only Eezham Tamils can understand the significance of Muta Sivan ( முட்ட சிவன்).

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    The Buddhist epic Manimekalai narrates the story of a trader named Sathuvan, husband of Adirai, who loses all his family wealth on a woman of easy virtue. When he realized his folly he returns to his wife.
    Ashamed of his conduct he set sails on a merchant ship to engage himself in trade. Unfortunately, the ship is caught in a storm and washed ashore in a land inhabited by Nagar. Tired and fatigued he slept for a long time.
    He was noticed by the natives who were savages. cruel and fierce. They thought that this well-built man could serve as a good dinner.
    It so happened that Sathuvan had a mastery of the language spoken by Nagar through systematic study. So, when he was brought before the Chief he spoke to him in his native language and warmed his way into his favour in no time. The natives step aside, paid him respects and conversed with him.
    The Chief then ordered his men to provide him with a young woman to keep him company in addition to warm toddy. Sathuvan declined the offer and said he does not want any of them.

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    He then delivered a sermon on the Buddhist principles of non-violence and how one can live a virtuous life.

    The Chief first defended his way of life, but ultimately he was convinced about the new philosophy propounded by Sathuvan. The chief gave him precious gifts and arranges for his departure.
    Thus it will be seen that Nagar spoke a different language. The fact Sathuvan was well versed in the language spoken by the Nagar shows some Tamils were bilingual. The opposite might also be true, that is some Nagar might have been proficient in Tamil as well.
    Some of the poets of Sangam period were known as Muranjiyur Mudinakanar, Ila Naganar, Nannaganar Ammeyyan Nākanar etc.

    What happened to the Nagar who ruled from Anuradhapura up to the 8th century? The Buddhist Nagar took the identity as Sinhalese. The Hindu Nagar were assimilated by the Tamils.

    There is plenty of evidence to show that Nagar lived in the north as can been evidenced by place names (Nainativu) places of worship (Nagar Kovil, Nagathambiran Kovil ) and individual names like Naganathan, Nagamma, Nagamani, Nagathevan, Nagavalli etc.

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      The Nagas in India were Tamils according to Dr B.R. Ambedkar. Please refer: https://www.forwardpress.in/2017/09/dr-ambedkar-on-asuras/#_edn8

      Were they different from the Nagas of Lanka? If so, who were the Nagas of Lanka? What language were they speaking?

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        LC,

        Interestingly, the term Dravida (or its variations) are not found in any of Sangam Tamil texts.

        I have done preliminary research on this.

        So far, the first use of the term Dravida is in Manusmiruthi, in verses 10.22 and 10.44.

        Please refer links below.

        https://archive.org/details/ManuSmriti_201601/page/n221/mode/2up?q=chapter+10

        https://archive.org/details/ManuSmriti_201601/page/n221/mode/2up?q=chapter+10

        This is in English translation only.

        https://archive.org/stream/ManuSmriti_201601/Manu-Smriti_djvu.txt

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        Holding everything said in any epic is 100% true is meaningless conclusion. There many incidents of miracles mentioned in that story, so those incidents don’t fit to scientific analysis. It was well known culture of those days, men loosing their wealth on easy women. That is why Avai said “Oruvanai Parri Orahathiru”. Nagas not known to Cannibalism. A local trader generally knows many local dialects. Seafarers speaks foreign one too. Sathuvan possible did know many version of Tamils, one including the South Indian -Ceylon’ Naga dialect too.

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      The Naga were a Dravidian people and were found widely spread in ancient Sri Lanka and in South India . Most Sri Lankan Tamils are believed to be descended from these ancient Naga living in the island . Kerala is a another place that was dominated by these Dravidian Naga tribes. The were the dominant people in ancient Sri Lanka and would have spoke a Dravidian language most probably a dialect that would have been closely akin to Tamil . However 3000 years ago the Naga in the island adopted proper Tamil as their language and assimilated into the Tamil identity. Please google and read

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      Rubbish. These people all have pure Tamil names but you state they are not Tamil. What sort of argument is this? Many Naga tribes were prevalent then in the South Indian Tamil country and in the island. Another word for Naga is Cheran . This is why modern day Kerala was called Tamil Chera Nadu and the Island was called Cheran Theevu , during ancient times, as it was occupied by Tamil Naga tribes. Naga” literally means “snake” or “serpent” in Sanskrit, Pali and Tamil. Cognates of the word Naga include Nayār, Nair, Naynār and Nāyakar, which are names of various communities in South India. The Oliyar, Parathavar, Maravar and Eyinar who were widespread across South India and North-East Sri Lanka are all Naga tribes and these people were Dravidians. Some of these Naga tribes may have spoken semi Tamil Dravidian dialects like Elu or even Cheran Tamil that later evolved into Malyalam, what is commonly called Kodun Tamil( low or debased Tamil) . How ever the literary language was proper Tamil and by the time Buddhism arrived in the island , these Nagas were properly assimilated into the Tamil identity. Later many of these Tamil Naga tribes down the south of the island , assimilated into the evolving Sinhalese ethnic identity by the 9th century or even a little bit earlier , after converting the Buddhism.

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    Dear Thanga

    None of what you written is relevant to you all cohabiting with us the people of Sri Lanka.

    No-one has ever denied such human rights to you or the likes of you ever even after you have violated our rights by pointing a gun at us.

    We are not redesigning the world nor any known norms of people living together because FP/TULF asked for etc. I can not ask for such things based on which side ion the bed I wake up and throw tantrum correct?

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