By C.V. Wigneswaran –
I find controversies have arisen due to my identifying Devanainampiya Theesan (Devanampiya Tissa) as a Tamil King. Let me briefly give my reasons for my conclusion. I use “Devanampiya Tissa” for easy understanding by the readers.
1. Sinhala as a language came into being after 6th Century AD. (Refer to Sigiriya graffiti). Devanampiya Tissa lived from 307 BC to 267 BC. His father was Mootha Sivan. Devanampiya Tissa lived about 800 years before the birth of the Sinhala language. Sinhalese are those who speak the Sinhala language. The Mahawansa refers to two Temples that existed over 100 years before Devanampiya Tissa. Professor Paranavitharana has identified one of the Temples as a Sivan Temple and the other as the living quarters of Brahmins. Thus even though Buddhism was introduced during the reign of Devanampiya Tissa the language in use at that time was a Dravidian language and certainly not Sinhala language. At least Devanampiya Tissa was a Demala Baudhaya!
The Sinhala language came about essentially on account of the influence Pali and Prakrit words had on the local Dravidian language. Such effects of Prakrit on the original Dravidian Tamil language produced Kannada after 5th Century AD, Telungu in the 6th Century AD; and Malayalam in the 8th and 9th Century AD. Even the Sangam Tamil underwent certain changes since 6th Century AD. The influence of Pali in the formation of the Sinhala language was considerable while it was the influence of Prakrit which produced Kannada, Telungu and Malayalam. Thanks to Professor Malalasekera and others Sinhala language today has Sinhalacised lots of Hindi words in order to make their glossary adequate to deal with the changing world scenario.
The use of certain words during Asoka’s time does not make those words Sinhala words. It only meant Tissa in Prakrit and Thisai in Tamil were used at that time. Sinhala language came centuries later.
2. The archaeological investigations that have taken place after 1970 have brought out the fact that the race, language, writing, religious beliefs and rituals, cultural history of the early people of Sri Lanka were similar to the South Indian cultural ambience of that era. Professor Sudershan Seneviratne has referred to the close resemblance between the Early Iron Age civilisation of South India and the early Sri Lankan civilisation. Kennedy refers to the people of that time as belonging to the same human species’ group. In 1999 certain Coins were excavated at Akkurugoda. Professor Iravatham Mahathevan has placed their time as before 2200 years. Professors Osmund Bope Arachchi and Raja Wickremasinghe have pointed out the “in” or “na’ sound as suffix to the names mentioned in the Coins which is peculiar to Tamil language. I am Wigneswaran. The name ends with “in” or “na”. This is peculiar to Tamil names. Some names on the Coins were Uthiran, Mahasaathan and Tisapura sada Nagarasan. It is significant that Mahawansa says Dutugemunu had to win over 32 Petty Tamil Kings in the South before meeting Ellalan in Anuradhapura. Thus Tamils and their language existed 2200 years ago even in the deep South of Sri Lanka. Hence King Devanampiya Tissa could by no stretch of imagination be called Sinhala speaking. There were no Sinhalese at that time nor Sinhala language.
3. At the time Buddhism was introduced into Sri Lanka in the 3rd Century BC, Prakrit and Pali were also introduced. Prakrit was the vernacular language used while Pali was scriptural. Such introduction took place in many countries where Buddhism was introduced in South Asia. While Prakrit was found in inscriptions elsewhere until about 5th Century AD, in Tamil Nadu the language used was essentially Tamil though the influence of Prakrit was at times seen. The unique literature of the Tamils flourished during this time around the birth of the Christian era. The Sangam literature is an example. The Purananooru refers to Poothan Thevanaar of Eelam, which meant Tamil poets from Sri Lanka too contributed to the literature of the Tamils at that stage. Thus Tamilian poets were existent around that period in the North – Eastern Sri Lanka. So were Tamil Kings. Thus it is no wonder that Devanampiya Tissa was a Tamil.
4. The name Theesaan was used not only in respect of Devanampiya Tissa but also with regard to many other kings. The word comes from the Tamil word Thisai – which means direction. One who ruled the area in a particular thisai or direction is what it meant.
5. Mahavansa never referred to any Sinhala King who ruled Anuradhapura. But it referred to Tamil Kings.
Professors Saddhamangala Karunaratna and Ariya Abeysinghe have concluded that even before writings from King Asoka’s period were introduced into this Island the mode of writing from South India had already been introduced here.
Parkar is of opinion after perusing the Tamil inscriptions found in Vavuniya Periya Puliamkulam that such Tamil writing and Tamil names found therein show Tamils lived there before the birth of the Christian Era. Professor Indrapala has referred to Tamils living as a human unit over 2000 years ago by reading the inscriptions found in Vavuniya, Anuradhapura, Ampara and Seruvil. So has Professor Iravatham Mahadevan referred to the presence of Tamils in Sri Lanka over 2000 years ago. Thus the language of Devanampiya Tissa was Tamil.
6. Finally let me refer to some interesting facts. There are no corresponding stories in Bihar nor Bengal nor anywhere else in North India akin to the story of a Lion King called Sinhabahu. There is no reference anywhere in Indian Texts to the exodus of 700 persons who were banished setting out from the shores of India at the corresponding time, and their reaching the shores of Sri Lanka. Hence the Mahawansa story of Vijaya and his 700 followers is a story hatched in Sri Lanka probably by the author of Mahawansa.
Furthermore even if we take Mahawansa as a reliable historical source (which it is not) yet what about the band of 700 Vijaya men marrying 700 Tamil girls from Pandya Kingdom and the settlement of 1000 families who were skilled in 18 professions / occupations?
Why are we not talking about the Pandyan influence on the Sinhalese community?
It is interesting to note that number of Tamil Munis from Madurai who were brought in 300 or 400 years ago to Sri Lanka for Don Juan Dharmapala’s coronation did not go back to Madurai but were given lands here. They married locally and are today the progenitors of many Muni families. I do not want to refer to any particular family name since many such Muni descendants are either known to me or are my dear friends.
I hope I have adequately explained myself. Any further questions from an advanced historical perspective must be addressed to our Professors both in the North and South. I mean real Professors not the pseudo ones!
*Justice C.V.Wigneswaran – Chief Minister, Northern Province
pandaranayagam / December 11, 2017
Why did the otherwise liberal Editor/Management of CT remove this article from the main page so soon?
Pandaranayagam
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Sinhala_Man / December 15, 2017
This important article has so far received 444 comments. It has been first posted on the 8th of December, and has got moved off the main display because newer articles have appeared.
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On this score, the editor couldn’t have been more liberal.
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Pandaranayagam, please be careful. I know you to be a rational man, from your other comments. This one sounds as though you have been influenced by the paranoia that we (Sinhalese) are in the habit of saying afflicts all Tamils.
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Champa / December 12, 2017
Reply to Prasad (previous page)
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About Tamil Buddhists:
There was NO mention of Tamil Buddhists anywhere in our history.
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But there had been Javanese (Thai) Buddhists (Javar – Chava – Savakan) in Jaffna. They were sea-pirates engaged in pearl trade under Chandrabhanu, a Thai Buddhist King of Trambalinga Kingdom (which had been located between Cambodia and Indonesia – Southern Thailand) who had tried to invade Sri Lanka only to be defeated by King ParakramaBahu II. They had come to Sri Lanka looking for gems and precious Buddhist relics. Chandrabhanu had ruled Jaffna Kingdom briefly from 1255 to 1258 and later at his attempt to recapture Jaffna he had been killed by Pandyan. Later his son King Savakanmaindan who took over the Kingdom of Trambalinga had ruled Jaffna Kingdom too – under Pandyan until Aryachakravarti dynasty took over Jaffna Kingdom.. Later there had been Malay and Indonesian sea-pirates/settlers too. Jaffna people had called all Southeast Asians as Javanese.
The name Jaffna had actually derived from Javanese. Java Patanam. (Patanam is more of a Muslim dialect than of Tamil, according to the Book “The Journey from Madras.”) Patanam can be a city, a port or a fort. In Sinhala, Patuna is a port – Dambakola Patuna, Yapa Patuna.
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No hard feelings, guys. I have no problem with Tamils and Muslims. But, there is no way I let selfish separatist racist Tamil politicians to distort our history and claim that they have a right to this land.
This is my country. It belongs to Sinhalese Buddhists who are the rightful owners of every inch of this land. Before Portuguese, Dutch and British invasions, all Sinhalese were Buddhists.
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Sinhala_Man / December 12, 2017
There is no mention of Buddhists speaking Tamil because there is no mention of them speaking Sinhalese either. Does this comment make sense? I haven’t given it careful thought.
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However, when I was in the Maldives, (1993, 1994) there was in the school which had only A. Level classes in all subjects, A Dr Raghupathy, PhD in Archaeology. He was teaching History. A Jaffna Tamil from Karainagar. I have lost contact with him. His father had been very high up in the Survey Department, and had worked in Diyatalawa. Raghupathy had studied in St Joseph’s Bandarawela which then was a State School with both Sinhala and Tamil media, and the only place within 15 miles where Tamils could do Science Practicals.. Now there are only Sinhalese, Tamils moved out.
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Ragupathy was an exile in Male. The Tigers wanted him to proclaim that the Tamils were the first inhabitants of Sri Lanka. This he refused to do because he said that the concept of race did not exist 2,000 years ago. Had they caught him (or Dr Rajan Hoole my classmate, with whom I am in touch), the Tigers would have executed him.
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I can give you more details, if you want them.
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Champa / December 12, 2017
Sinhala Man
Next time when you read somebody’s reply to somebody, first read the first comment before reading reply. Cheers.
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Sinhala_Man / December 12, 2017
Thanks for advice, Champa.
Now I’m in a bus. It may only be on Thursday that I can again dit at a desktop and respond more appropriately.
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Sinhala_Man / December 15, 2017
Dear Champa,
I have looked at most of the views exchanged by Prasad and you. Interesting.
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This has to be approached as History, not as questions relating to what you, subjectively, want to believe. Gauthama’s visits to Sri Lanka, I just can’t accept as historical facts, just as much as I will not assent to the claim that Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead, and himself rose from his sepulchre on the third day, and ascended in to heaven.
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All religions make fantastic claims, and it wouldn’t make sense to challenge them, provided the don’t result in unacceptable actions that are performed today. Unfortunately, we’ve had much blood-letting on account of these claims made by Buddhists. The study of the Dharma itself is neglected.
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As for the problem about languages, yes, I agree with what Prasad says about it being POSSIBLE that the learned monks wrote in a language which none spoke.
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I see a dangerous analogy here with what we ourselves are doing. Discussing in acceptable English, while the hoi polloi get jeered for making all sorts of mistakes when they attempt to work in English.
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The two native languages are still being neglected. To allow those who don’t know English (be their first language Sinhalese or Tamil) to live with dignity on this island should be our main concern.
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Prasad / December 12, 2017
Champa,
Could you please tell us exactly where Sinhala Buddhists are mentioned in your history? Which Sinhala history book talks about a Sinhala-Buddhist king? Please quote with reference if you find one.
Saivate King Muta Siva’s (elder Siva) son and Maha Siva’s (big Siva) brother Devanampiya Tissa (Thisan) was a Tamil Buddhist. Manimekalai, a purely Buddhist work of the 3rd Sangam period in Tamil literature is most famous among the Buddhist work done in Tamil. It also talks about the Tamil Buddhists in the island/Nagadipa.
During the rule of Rajaraja chola in 992AD, the South Indian Chola Empire not only included Sri Lanka but it also extended till Java (present day Indonesia). Chandra Bhanu’s 50 year rule in the 13th century is remembered by place names as Java Kachcheri (Chavakachcheri), Hambantota, etc.
However, all what you are saying is nothing but pure imagination. You seem to be even better than that Ganja smoking monk Mahanama (Mahavamsa author) in concocting stories from thin air. Are you on hallucinatory drugs?
At one time you are saying the Javanese were Buddhists who called Jaffna as Java Patnam and then you are saying Patnam is Muslim. I think you should change your drugs, may be Ganja will do better.
Sinhala Buddhist Country? Where on earth is that?
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Champa / December 12, 2017
Prasad
I have already replied to your lies and crap with facts.
Next time make sure to be sober when you write comments.
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Prasad / December 12, 2017
Champa,
Please don’t run away with your tail between the legs, please answer my questions. Even last time you ran away saying you already replied.
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Champa / December 13, 2017
Prasad
I have made over 30 comments. I ignored only stupid comments/questions. At least 20-25 comments are direct counter-answers for yours and other people’s lies, distortions and hilarious fabrications. I need not to repeat what is already said. Go and learn to read and understand.
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Prasad / December 13, 2017
Are you talking about all your hallucinations? If you go to a mental institute like Angoda and say all what you comment here, you will definitely get a standing ovation.
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Prasad / December 12, 2017
Champa,
Sinhala Buddhist Country? Where on earth is that?
The Sri Lankan constitution does not say Sri Lanka is a Sinhala Buddhist country, the so called SL ‘history’ books does not say anywhere that Sri Lanka is a Sinhala Buddhist country. Sri Lanka is neither a Sinhala country nor a Buddhist country but a multi-ethnic multi-religious country. Just because the Sinhala Buddhists are more in number/majority (how they became a majority is not a secret) that does not mean that the whole country is exclusively for Sinhala Buddhists. A part of the country belonged to the Tamils before the British united the Tamil North (formerly Jaffna Kingdom) and the Sinhala South (formally Kotte & Kandy kingdoms) into one unitary state. The Sinhalese is the ONLY race in this entire world that foolishly believes that the majority race in a country is the sole owner of that country and all others (minorities) are aliens.
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Shenal / December 13, 2017
Prasad,
According to your logic no country belong to it’s citizens and any jack and jill can do what ever they like in any country in this world. Therefore, why don’t you go to US and try to being a Sinhalese or Tamil. Demand you only need to speak your native language but not English. Demand that you want to live the way you like it and not the way US citizens are doing it. Try to demand a separate enclave from US soil basing in the ground that all of the US citizens are immigrants at one point of time or another. Please do this there and tell us what is the response.
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Prasad / December 13, 2017
Shenal,
What a meaningless stupid comment with no sense whatsoever. Where did I say no country belong to its citizen? Sri Lanka does not belong to only Sinhalese, it is a multi-cultural country that belongs to all its diverse citizens. If I go to US or any other country then I have to learn the language of that country to live and work. If I live/work in any Sinhala part of Sri Lanka (Eg. Colombo), then I need to learn Sinhala. If I live/work in the Tamil part of Sri Lanka, then I need to learn Tamil.
I cannot go to US and demand because Tamil Kings did not rule US and there was no separate Tamil kingdom (like Jaffna kingdom) in US and also, the Tamils did not live as a majority in a separate Tamil speaking territory (like North & East) for thousands of years to claim a separate enclave/traditional homeland in US.
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Shenal / December 13, 2017
Prasad,
Why not Sinhalese can claim the country as their own. It was them that created the monuments that any one can see in the past 2500 years. Can Tamils do the same? Tamils can’t because they have nothing to show to the world. They can only form fables to justify their existence in North and East. How knows in couple of centuries the Upcountry Tamils might also claim they were the original inhabitants of the Centrals hills from the time of king Rawana. How do we disapprove it?
Sri Lanka is only belong to the persons who can proudly say the past 2500 years of history is my own and I will protect it with my life for future generations. Not to the people who say “this part is ours and only we can stay here”. Those vermins should be sent to where they have come from in the first place.
Yes, exactly you need to learn if you go and work in Tamil areas. This is the problem. Tamils don’t want to learn Sinhalese and they want us to learn Tamil instead. Why the hell we need to learn Tamil when we won’t even have many connections with Tamils for most of our lives. Whereas Tamils who will have to go through out the country for their own errands will need to learn it outright.
As I have always said. Tamils didn’t have a separate kingdom in Sri Lanka. There are ample proofs to show that. Jaffna was always had been a vassal kingdom of either Kotte or Kandy. It is well documented by Portuguese, Dutch and British reports.
So, finally. If Tamils were to live 1000 years in US main land. Do they get eligible for a separate state?
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Prasad / December 14, 2017
Shenal,
Questions, questions and more stupid questions…
During the early historic period, just because a person in Sri Lanka is a Buddhist he/she cannot automatically become a Sinhalese. At that time even Tamils were Buddhists. Just because most of the Sri Lankan kings were Buddhists, the Sinhalese want to claim that they were Sinhala kings. This is how the Sinhalese including Paranavithana twisted and manipulated the history. The Sri Lankan history is re-fabricated and re-written by the Buddhist monks and pseudo-scholars/charlatans who succeeded in misrepresenting the Pandyan/Tamil foundations of Sri Lankan civilization as Sinhala civilization. The present day historians have misinterpreted the Pandya – Chola war as Sinhala – Tamil war.
For example, King Parakramabahu (all Bahu kings were of Pandyan descend) was the patron of numerous Hindu Temples including Jaffna Nallur Murukan Temple and Rameswaram Sivan Temple, and his Tamil inscriptions are still in Rameswaram Temple. The Tamil Saivites of Jaffna are still invoking his name in the Nallur Temple before the temple procession of Lord Murukan. The pillar of stone inscription in Tamil is at the entrance that leads to the Palace of King Parakramabahu the great. King Parakrambahu the great built a statue to honor the Tamil sage Agaththiyar (who brought the Tamil language) to commemorate his Tamil roots, but the foolish Sinhalese are calling the sage Agathiyar`s statue as Parakrmabahu`s statue.
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Prasad / December 14, 2017
Shenal,
You people boast about a written Sinhala history that was neither written in Sinhala nor says anything about Sinhala, you boast about an ancient Sinhala history and civilization which is not mentioned anywhere in the ancient artifacts or publications or inscriptions as Sinhala, you boast about Sinhala Kingdoms which nobody, even Ven. Mahanama the author of Mahavamsa has never mentioned. What has Buddhism got to do with Sinhala? The ancient Buddhist structures in the North, North Central and some parts of east belong to the Tamils who were also Buddhists.
Sinhala and Buddhism were interlinked or made into one unit as Sinhala-Buddhism only recently, very much after the 13th century AD. It was only after the 13th Century AD, the people identified themselves as Sinhalese and Tamils and got separated into two different territories with two different languages, religions, cultures, and kingdoms.
Whether you call them invaders or invitees or whatever, Sinhala (other than the language that was developed in Sri Lanka) came from India and Buddhism also came from India. Both Tamil and Sinhala kings ruled the Island alternatively right from the beginning of history and the civilization was created by both. It is not mentioned anywhere that the Sri Lankan civilization is a Sinhala civilization or Tamil civilization. They both contributed, even the Mahavamsa accepts it. The Sri Lankan heritage belongs to both. Can you prove that the historical monument in the country is Sinhala? Please tell us which chronicles, stone inscriptions, archaeological ruins talk about a Sinhala King or kingdom before the 13th century.
Today the Sinhalese are dominating because they became a majority after the Portuguese arrived and brought hundreds of thousands from South India who converted to Buddhism and eventually became Sinhalese and today they are trying to claim everything for themselves.
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Shenal / December 16, 2017
Prasad,
Reply 2
There was no need of the Thero Mahanama to specifically mention “Sinhalese” people as it was written about them. Anyone who would expected to read the great chronicle were able to understand about whom the chronicle speaks out. Moreover, there are countless foreign born writers from Indian subcontinent to China to Rome who had written about the ancient Sri Lanka. They all mention the island as Sinhale. Not one talks about a Tamil presence along side Sinhalese.
Where does it say that the ancient architecture we see today in North, NC and East were made by Tamil Buddhists? Where has it written that it was “Tamil Buddhists”? Can you provide any source?
Please tell us why did Tamils and Sinhalese got separated from each other in 13th century? Why did such a momentous paradigm shift occured and why no one ever mentioned about it?
Sri Lankan heritage belong to the people who really cares about it. Not to the ones that try to manipulate it for their own crooked intentions.
Prasad, haven’t you read Deepavansa. It mentions about Sinhala people and their inception. Please go and read it before you get humiliated again.
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Prasad / December 14, 2017
Shenal,
Your so called Sinhala civilization in Sri Lanka is all borrowed from others. The Sinhalese are experts in importing or borrowing everything from others, making a few modifications and then calling them their own. A serious lack of originality in the so called Sinhala culture.
Buddhism that the Sinhalese follow was imported from North India. Sinhala language is nothing but Prakrit/Sanskrit, Pali and Tamil (from North & South India). The Sinhala script was borrowed from the Indian Grantha script. The name of the country ‘Lanka’ was borrowed from the Indian epic Ramayana. The name of their race ‘Sinhala’ was borrowed from the Indian epic Mahabaratha.
The Sinhalese men and women were topless until the arrival of Portuguese. The Sinhalese women were only wearing the reddha, the hatte (blouse) was introduced by the Portuguese to cover their tops. The Sari was borrowed from India, and the style of wearing sari by the early Kerala women was exactly what the Sinhalese women wear now (Osari/Osariya). Even the so called Kandiyan traditional dress is not exactly the traditional cultural dress of Sinhalese but a borrowed, altered version of medieval Portuguese dress. Most part of the Kandiyan Costume has the Portuguese influence.
The hunchbacked, top-heavy women of Sigiriya, about which so many misplaced raves have been written, but copies unworthy of the prototypes of the cave paintings of Ajanta, Elora, Pappadakkal, and Sittannavasal in Tamil Nadu, South India and from which they were drawn.
The Elephant and other procession in Dalada Perahera is a copy of Pooram Festival of Kerala and Dasara Festival of Mysore. Sinhala Religious practices such as the Pattini deity worship (as well as the worship of Natha, Vishnu, Kataragama, Saman and Vibhishana) were also introduced to Sri Lanka from South India. Sinhala classical poems such as the ‘Perakumba Sinha’ and ‘Kokila Sandesaya’ also bear the Kerala stamp.
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Prasad / December 14, 2017
Shenal,
All the well-known Sinhala musicians/singers (including Amaradeva) went to India to learn music. The so called Sinhala Baila music is borrowed from the Portuguese music and African Kaffiringa.
Most of the food the Sinhalese cook/eat including the sweet meats such as the Kavum is Kerala’s cultural cuisines. The traditional food in Kerela is exactly similar to the Sinhalese food, pol sambol, aapa, idiappa, pittu, pol rotti and so on.
What the Sinhalese call Sinhala medicine is actually Ayurveda medicine brought to Sri Lanka from Kerela. Even today the Ayurvedic doctors (Wickramarachi and others) in Sri Lanka used to go to Kerela for further higher studies.
Most of the Sinhalese are still practicing the Tamil religious traditions openly. For example, auspicious times is a Tamil Hindu concept, Buddhism has no concept of auspicious times. The Tamil Hindu element is patent in the lifestyle of every Sinhala-Buddhist. They pray with great piety to Hindu gods, perform rituals, break coconuts, tie the pirith noola, surei, do important things at auspicious times, light the khoodu for Bhairava, hang ash pumpkins in a newly built house to avoid evil befalling any member of the house-hold, carry kavadi, walk on red hot cinders, chant Seth and Vas kavi, etc. The Sandesha Kavyas (poems) were composed solely to invoke Hindu Gods to offer healing support for someone in a problematic situation. Even on poya days, Buddhists offer poojas at Kataragama to the Tamil God Murugan, and offer poojas to goddess Saraswaty. Even the Bodhi Pooja and tying the blessed pirith noola are Hindu concepts/tradition. The Sinhalese observe Hindu New Year Day, April 14, (according to Hindu Solar and not Buddhist Lunar calendar where each month starts with the new moon) as their New Year Day. The first month of the Buddhist lunar year is `Bak` which never falls on the 14th of April whereas in the Tamil Hindu solar calendar the first day of the first solar month i.e. `Chitterai` falls each year on 14 April.
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Prasad / December 14, 2017
Shenal,
The Cave Temples, Dagobas/Stupas, Irrigation Tanks, etc. may be built by the kings who ruled the country but the Architects, Engineers, Craftsmen, and skilled labor were all brought down (imported) from South India. The tanks and fields, which were the main support of the kings, their armies and a large body of priests and monks, were damaged frequently either by wars between rival kings or through natural forces as well as sheer neglect. Repairs to these tanks and the maintenance of irrigation and cultivation could not be affected without the aid of specially trained men from the Tamil country. Sir James Emerson Tennent, Colonial Secretary to the British Government of Ceylon (1845-1850) tells us even during his time, the expertise/services from Tamil country had to be obtained for repairing tanks in the North Central Province.
If there were skilled people in Sri Lanka during the ancient time then what happened to them later? Why there are no such people today in Sri Lanka? If you say the Sinhalese built all those Reservoirs what happened to them now? Why did todays Sinhalese bring foreign designers, architects, and Engineers to build Mahaweli, Kothmale, Randenigala and all other reservoirs?
If you see in India, just like the ancient past, even today all their Reservoirs are built by Indian designers, architects, and Engineers. In Sri Lanka, just like today even in the ancient past, the rulers/kings got down designers, architects, and Engineers from India.
The terms used in irrigation, together with their definitions, from the ‘Ancient Irrigation Works’, by R.L.Brohier reveals an important fact, they are Tamil derivatives and none of them are Indo-Aryan Prakrit. For eg: Anai, Kaddu, Anaikaddu, Marichukaddu, Kadavai, Karai, Munai, Thekkam, Kulama and many others. These are all clearly Tamil words. Therefore, it can be presumed that those who designed and built tanks and constructed large irrigation works (Tank fed irrigated cultivation of rice) in the ancient past and possessed all the knowledge necessary for the purpose were Tamil-speaking people.
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Native Vedda / December 15, 2017
Prasad
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Uma Oya Multipurpose Project has been awarded to Iranians despite having had thousands of years of expertise in building thousands of irrigation facility through out the island.
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Please read:
Chennai sculptor creates Buddha statue in Sri Lanka
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http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/chennai-
sculptor-creates-buddha-statue-in-sri-lanka/article7164003.ece
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I wonder why the Sinhala/Buddhists imported a Sthapathi from India to create a Buddha statue in this island where sach, shenal, champa believe they are jack of all trades, Sri Lanka shining.
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Prasad / December 15, 2017
NV,
If you go to India even today, whether it is North or South, you will find plenty of extraordinarily wonderful ancient architecture. The best part is the decedents of those people who constructed those structures, reservoirs, etc. are still doing the same job. If you go there as a tourist, you can see those people are still able to construct, carve or build exactly like their forefathers.
Even though the Sinhala-Buddhists boast about a great civilization, for everything they import experts from outside.
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Prasad / December 15, 2017
Shenal,
What is this Sinhala Civilization you are talking about? Other than the Sinhala language that was developed in Sri Lanka by the Old Dravidian tribes after they got converted to Buddhism by the Indian King Asoka who gave them the Prakrit/Pali language to speak, religion and culture to practice, Brahmi script to write, technology to build Buddhist structures, and an Indian Lion symbol to your flag, you think you people have developed a civilization? Everything you do and follow are from either North or South India. Tell me one thing that the Sinhalese have which is not borrowed or copied from others? At least one thing? I am challenging you. I can explain/show you in detail every single thing that you call Sinhala is NOT Sinhala.
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Shenal / December 15, 2017
Prasad,
Reply 1.
Of course There were Tamil Buddhists in ancient Sri Lanka. No one denied their existence. Moreover, what makes you think that ancient Sri Lankan kings were Tamils instead of Sinhalese? What are the irrefutable evidence other than they were not exclusively called “Sinhalese”?
Please Prasad, if Sri Lankan history was misinterpreted or misrepresented. You have to prove it how it has happened rather than throwing mud at great archaeologists of the past. So don’t talk about bull crap if you can’t substantially prove them. Your hypothesis are irrelevant to the discussion. So keep it at home.
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Native Vedda / December 15, 2017
Shenal
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“Why not Sinhalese can claim the country as their own. It was them that created the monuments that any one can see in the past 2500 years. “
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Because first you must find out who the Sinhalese are.
Who are Buddhists?
Who are Sinhala/Buddhist?
Who are Sinhala/Buddhist fascists?
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The monuments were mostly built by South Indian Sthapathies.
Even as recently as May 2015, Chennai-based M. Muthiah Sthapathi made a Buddha statue at Rambadagalla Vidyasagara Temple.
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Why was it?
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Native Vedda / December 13, 2017
Shenal
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“According to your logic no country belong to it’s citizens and
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The country, nation, the world, universe ……………… belong to the future generations who have loaned the planet to us. Have you realised this planet should be given back to the future generation in pristine form, with vegetation, animals, birds, sea creatures, …………………… in unspoiled environment.
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“any jack and jill can do what ever they like in any country in this world.”
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Isn’t what you have been doing for the past 100 years.
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“Therefore, why don’t you go to US and try to being a Sinhalese or Tamil.”
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Why should they go to US as long this country remain fit for habitation free of nutters like you, national hangman like Dr Gota (DSc), ……………………………………..?
You should go back to your ancestral country, India.
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Rationalist / December 13, 2017
All you Sri Lankans who have Emigrated to other Countries, How would you feel if you were not allowed to be a Citizen of that country, and enjoy all the benefits that accrue to a Citizen?
All Sri Lanka’s problems arose when the Country was divided by Language Lines!
The Private School, English Educated, still enjoy better Living Standards than the Swabasha Educated Citizens.
I mean, both Sinhala and Tamil Media Educated Sri Lankans, continue to be the Underdogs!
It is Only the Politicians of Both the Language groups, Who continue to enjoy the Perks of Office!
Singapore Succeeded because they did not throw out English like we did.
It is time that Sri Lanka invited English teachers from Overseas to teach in the Provincial Schools and bring all Sri Lankans Back into the Modern World of the Internet, and up to date Scientific Knowledge!
There are still Sri Lankans who believe that Darwin’s Theory of Evolution is ‘Only a Theory’, because of the problems of translation!
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Shenal / December 13, 2017
Prasad,
I will reply for aunty Champa. It does not need to specifically mention for whom the country actually belong to. But, the action of the community who cares most of the country and it’s people are the one the country truly belong to. Please can you tell me what Tamils has done for this country? Did they fought with British? Did they participated in the 1818 rebellion? Did they participated in the 1848 rebellion? Did they even supported our independent struggle (not even Sinhalese leaders did). This is same for Muslims also. These people were just dragging along with the Sinhalese for their mere existence.
It is the things that you say which makes no sense at all. Your theories and hypothesis are also have no solid foundations. History cannot be made on fables. Please come with hard evidence. Sinhalese have vast number of those hard evidence to show for their ownership of the island. What do Tamils have?
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Prasad / December 13, 2017
Shenal,
Which idiot said, only Sinhalese rebelled against the British? Did the Sinhalese ever fight for the independence of Sri Lanka?
Monarawila Keppetipola served under the British rule as a Disawe. He was also one of those responsible for bringing the whole island under the British rule. Later, when he found that the British went back on their promises he rebelled in 1818. Similarly, Puran Appu in 1848, Mayadunne, Gongalegoda Banda, Kudapola Rahula thero, Wariyapola Sumangala and a few others were also rebels who fought at different periods (long before independence) for different issues/reasons (some of them personal), it had nothing to do with the Independence. They were easily crushed and were executed very long before Sri Lanka obtained independence. None of them were responsible for sending the Brits out of the country? In 1948, we got independence free on a platter, thanks to Gandhi and the Indians who fought for it peacefully and Subash Chandra Bose who fought for it violently, and Sri Lanka got it free along with the Indians without spilling any blood, sweat or tears.
Very similar to some of the Sinhala rebellion against the British rule even the Tamils have rebelled. Pandara Vanniyan (Kulasegaram Vairamuthu Pandaravanniyan) was known as one of last native Tamil chiefs to challenge British rule.
We should not forget the service rendered by Sir Ponnampalam Ramanathan at that time. On his return from London, some of the top families of Sinhalese aristocracy had no qualms about drawing his carriage through the streets of Colombo virtually carrying him on their backs and the Sinhala leaders took turns to pull his carriage. Anagarika Dharmapala called Ramanathan a ‘Hero’, D S Senanayake called him ‘the greatest Ceylonese of all times’, Sir Baron Jayatilaka referred to him as ‘the greatest man Ceylon has produced during the past 50 years’.
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Shenal / December 13, 2017
So according to you 1818 and 1848 wasn’t rebellions against Britons but something else isn’t it? But pardon me for saying this, Indians value Mangal Panday and 1858 Indian uprising as rebellions against the British and they name all who participated as freedom fighters. What makes the difference between Indians who recognize the achievements of 1858 rebellions as independent struggle and you who don’t want recognize the Sinhalese uprisings as independent struggles against British? Does hypocrisy play any part here?
Moreover, it wasn’t the struggle of Indian nationalist alone which made Britons leave India. The one single biggest factor was the bankruptcy of Briton after WW2.
There should be no confusion here. There was not any Pandaya Wanniyan as the Tamils claim. He was a Sinhala chieftain called Bandara Wanniya. I have given a explanation of him in earlier comment. Go and see it for yourself.
Didn’t you said that Sinhalese make no effort to achieve independence from Britain and it was the tiresome Britons who handed it over to us in a silver platter. So, why do you want to drag Ramanathan story here. Just consider him also an useless bugger.
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Prasad / December 14, 2017
Shenal,
Do you have difficulty in reading and understanding English, or are you blind, or simply stupid? Where did I say 1818 and 1848 were not rebellions against the British? Of course it was the British.
They were rebellion against the State (ruled by British) not for independence (even though today the Sinhalese want to claim that they were trying to liberate the country from the British). Puran Appu and/or Gongalegoda Banda in 1848 did not fight a National struggle but an uprising as a direct response to the introduction of new tax by the then Governor Torrington. Monarawila Keppetipola in 1818 fought for personal reasons. They were damn fools who rebelled against the state and got executed along with thousands of their followers although today the Sinhalese want to erect their statues and praise them as Sinhala heroes. Even Rohana Wijeweera rebelled against the State (this time ruled by locals) and got executed along with thousands of his followers. Why not build a statue for him and call him a hero?
Continued…
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Prasad / December 14, 2017
Shenal,
Now please do not come up with jokes, Bandara Wanniya was NOT a Sinhalese.
The earliest references to the Vanniya in South India predate Lankan references and go back to the 11th century inscriptions of the Cholas. Several chieftains from the Malavar, chiefs of certain hill-tribes in Tamil areas of South India (mentioned in the Pandya records of the thirteenth century) were the first possessors of the Vanni Chiefdoms belonging to Lanka. They cleared this Vanni country and cut down the jungle at a time when there was no one else. By rights, these Tamil speaking Vanniyars were the real owners of Vanni.
Kulasegaram Vairamuthu Pandara Vanniyan (known to the Sinhalese as Bandara Wannian) was the last Tamil Vanniar Chieftain of Vanni. With the assistance of a large number of Kandyan troops from the Kandyan Kingdom (the only kingdom that existed), he nearly overran all the British held northern districts. The Tamils call him the ‘Payum Puli Pandara Vanniyan’ (‘Leaping Tiger Pandara Vanniyan’) to typify Tamil heroism and patriotism. On the other hand, the Sinhalese living close to Vanni have made him a God, they call him Vanni Bandara Deiyo. (Also refer K. Indrapala, “The Origin Of The Tamil Vanni Chieftaincies Of Ceylon”).
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Champa / December 13, 2017
I have already replied to him Uncle Shenal. I don’t need a mouthpiece.
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oldcodger / December 15, 2017
Champa,
There is at least one mention of a Buddhist person with Sinhala-Pandyan-Kalinga ancestry. He was Parakrama Bahu 1. at least 1/3 Tamil.
Before the European invasions, not all Sinhalese were Buddhists. Perhaps 95% were. Some were Muslims. Some might have been even Nestorian Christians.
Be careful when you make sweeping statements.
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Native Vedda / December 12, 2017
Champa the ……………. oldest profession
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“About Tamil Buddhists: There was NO mention of Tamil Buddhists anywhere in our history.”
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In the 1930s scientist believed there was no blackhole. All stars when burned up the last of its fuel, it would turn into a ball of cinders and go cold – become a white dwarf star. A 19 year boy mathematically showed that a white dwarf much heavier than the sun could not exist, but would undergo an eternal collapse into a tiny point of infinite density, until it slipped though a crevice in space and time, from which nothing could escape, not even light. It was the first irrefutable mathematical proof that black holes – as they were later dubbed – had to exist.
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However in 1972, the intense source of x-rays in the constellation Cygnus, called Cygnus X-1, 20,000 trillion miles away, was the first black hole to be identified. Many more have now been sighted. Thus – 40 years after his initial discovery – Chandra was finally vindicated and Eddington proven wrong. Chandra was awarded the Nobel prize in 1983 for his work on white dwarfs.
The Guardian
Arthur I Miller
Thursday 19 October 2017
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Go check Ceylon Census “1881”. The total number of Tamil Buddhist was 12,000.
Please stop your bull and get on with serious research, debate and education.
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Percy / December 13, 2017
Now now that’s a piece of brainless Vedda imagination. There were no Tamil Buddhists in Ceylon in the 19th C. There were plenty of low caste untouchable Tamils however. They were not allowed to walk in the shadow of a Brahmin as they would pollute the sacred countenance of the Brahmin. When the American missionaries opened schools in the North many of the untouchables became converted to Christianity and took American names. Those who didn’t convert remained as outcastes until Prabakaran a low caste man himself got rid of some of the discrimination. Some of those untouchables try to pose as Sinhalese now!
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Dr Dolittle / December 13, 2017
Percy,
If TN Tamils did not come to Sri Lanka you won’t even be there today. According to the latest genetic study done by a team of Harvad genealogists, 68% of the Sinhalese genes are found to be Indian Tamil.
So Percy, since your great grandfather may not be alive to tell you from which Dalit village in Tamil Nadu your ancestors came to SL and got converted into Sinhala-Buddhists but if you check your DNA/genes, I am sure you also may be one of them from the TN tribal area from where your Dalit (untouchable) ancestors were brought to the South of SL as coolie slaves to grow cinnamon who later got converted to Sinhala-Buddhist?
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Native Vedda / December 14, 2017
Dr Dolittle
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“According to the latest genetic study done by a team of Harvad genealogists, 68% of the Sinhalese genes are found to be Indian Tamil.”
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Could you cite reference.
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Native Vedda / December 14, 2017
Percy pathetic, dated and retarded
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“Now now that’s a piece of brainless Vedda imagination. There were no Tamil Buddhists in Ceylon in the 19th C.”
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According to 1881 Ceylon Census total population of Tamil Buddhists 12,000.
No harm in accepting you are not only an ignorant but a pathetic stupid too.
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I think you enjoy being a stupid ignorant.
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Prasad / December 13, 2017
Vijaya story and Buddha’s 3 visits were folk/fairy tales concocted by the Mahavihara monks (including Ven. Mahanama) and their ulterior motives are very obvious. The ancient history of Anuradhapura was the history of the Pandya/Pandu dynasty. King Abhaya’s (Prakritised form of Apayan in Tamil means ‘he who averts fear’) son Pandu ka Abhaya (377 BC) received help from his ancestral city of Madhura (Pandya capital) in planning and building the city of Anuradhpura. King Pandu ka Abhaya gives his son a Saivaite Tamil name Muta Siva (elder Siva) and King Muta Siva’s son was Devanampiya Tissa who promoted Emperor Asoka’s Theravada Buddhism in Sri Lanka. Later in the 10th century, Anuradahpura came under the rule of Cholas. Only Tamil Buddhism has existed in Anuradhapura as Sinhala language or Sinhala race did not exist during the Anuradahpura period. The Prakrit Brahmi inscriptions do not prove that the people spoke Prakrit. The Pali chronicles do not prove that the people spoke Pali. Can anybody prove a race called Sinhala race speaking the Sinhala language lived around Anuradapura Kingdom before the 6th century AD leaving the cooked up Mahavamsa aside?
Continuing what was written by the English Orientalists, the Sinhalese historians twisted and misrepresented and misappropriated the civilizational achievements of the ancient Sri Lanka as the history of the newly conceived Sinhala race.
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Champa / December 13, 2017
Sinhalese Buddhists are making news internationally and they are a well recognized nation. That is why WigneswaranTISSA sorry Theesan, tried to make some connection to Buddhism fabricating a story about King Devanampiya Tissa to be a Tamil!!! Interestingly, many Tamils now take it as an honour to have some connections with Buddhism only to make me laugh when I remember how cheaply, maliciously, mercilessly and viciously they attacked Buddhism, Maha Sangha and Buddhists in this very forum just a few months ago.
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Prasad / December 13, 2017
The Tamils NEVER EVER attacked or attack Buddha/Buddhism. Of Course, the Tamils always attacked the Barbaric Sinhala-Buddhism of Sri Lanka (because it is an insult to true Buddhism) and the Racist Hora Ganayas or Cheevaradharis of the Sinhala-Buddhist Maha Sangha. Can you show us in this very forum at least one Tamil who attacked Buddha or true Buddhism if you can?
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Champa / December 13, 2017
There is a thing called “Archives” and your very comments against Maha Sangha vilifying them are among them.
Buddhists never use such words against Hindu, Catholic or Muslim priests. But some non-Buddhists, some Catholic government Ministers and Tamils always vilify Maha Sangha showing their immaturity and meanness.
“When the debate is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser.” – Socrates.
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Prasad / December 13, 2017
Champa,
Please refer to my comment above. Vilifying Buddha/Buddhism NO, Vilifying the Sinhala-Buddhist Maha Sangha YES. Because they are dirty racist anti-Buddhists.
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Native Vedda / December 14, 2017
Champa
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“But some non-Buddhists, some Catholic government Ministers and Tamils always vilify Maha Sangha showing their immaturity and meanness.”
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The Grant Dukes of Mahasangha have never been fit for purpose. Its like Mafia they run parallel state, state within a state, contrary to what Buddha taught.
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“When the debate is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser.” – Socrates.
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The Truth Will Set You Free, But First It Will P**s You Off
– Gloria Steinem, Anne Kristine Stuart, Bill Cosby, Erin Brockovich and others
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Am glad you are being p****d off by truth. Hope your liberation is not too far.
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Upali Wickramasinghe / December 15, 2017
Champa, I am a Buddhist. By your comments do you justify the safron robed gentry in accumulating wealth, crude expression of wealth eg luxury vehicles, womanising sodomy, rape , the path of succession making way for the relatives to enjoy the wealth accumulated by the temple in the name of religion, charging exorbitant sums of money to attend a simple Bana preaching, advertising themselves through bill boards with photographs after a “make up” like cinematic women or even road side prostitutes, calling for the death of others and spreading hatered ( eg attack on the Tamil and Muslim communities) etc etc.
ALL THE ABOVE CAN BE BACKED BY ARTICLES PUBLISHED IN THE NATIONAL PAPERS.
eg Please refer to ” Child abuse by a Monk at Habaraduwa” Sri lanka Guardian of 27 May 2010. There was the incident reported recently, connected with a Temple at the Matara end of the Highway. A child had been sodomised by a number of priests and a lay man. they attempted to hush it up, but could not as the child had to be admitted to the hospital a second time.Papers said that the “Monks” were arrested. What about the man punished by courts for sodomy/
I had a shocking experience about 60 years ago. I studied at Colombo., a group of us, were given some papers on Buddhism to be sold. I had sold most of it and when I came to a temple, I thought the balance could be sold.I went in spoke to a young priest. He took me along a passage and opened a door.Inside were a priest and a lady.I turned back, while walking out I heard them laughing at me..My conjecture today is that the lady was there to service all the monks at the temple and that was why the door was not locked.
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Native Vedda / December 14, 2017
Champa ……………………………………….. oldest profession
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“Sinhalese Buddhists are making news internationally and they are a well recognized nation. “
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For wrong reasons. I have a long list.
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” Interestingly, many Tamils now take it as an honour to have some connections with Buddhism only to make me laugh when I remember how cheaply, maliciously, mercilessly and viciously they attacked Buddhism, Maha Sangha and Buddhists in this very forum just a few months ago.”
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I suppose the awakened one was a Sinhalese who taught his path to Nibbana was entirely in Sinhala. Now it appears the awakened one is exclusively owned by the Sinhala/Buddhist fascists as they claim to own this island.
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Its a great news for the world.
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As far as I know no one attacked Buddha nor his teaching apart from drunken Sinhala/Buddhist fascists. Actually both are being insulted by the very people who want the crooks to take over the protection of Buddhism.
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The grant dukes of Mahasangha has nothing to do with Buddha or Buddhism, on the contrary they are the symbols of everything contrary to what Buddha taught.
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Buddha and his teaching are safe as long as the people liberate both from Sinhala/Buddhist fascists.
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SivaJothy / December 16, 2017
Champa,
The Mahavamsa can never be considered as the history of the entire island called Sri Lanka. It was written not as a history of Sri Lanka (or Sinhalese) but as a chronicle of that famous Theravada Buddhist Institution known as the Mahavihara. The original Mahavamsa is a historical poem written in Pali by a Buddhist Monk named Mahanama (an uncle of King Dhatusena) in the fifth century AD. It covers a period starting from the arrival of Vijaya (543 BC) to the time of Mahasena’s rule (334-361 BC). His aim was to glorify the Buddhist kings of the Anuradhapura kingdom who patronized this institution. It chronicles some of the main events in the kingdom of these patrons, the domain they controlled from Anuradhapura.
Take for example the Mahinda Rajapakshe’s period. When he was President, the Mahavamsa was written with 3 chapters about the Rajapakse royal family, but has no mention of Fonseka and has only one paragraph about Chandrika”.
This is exactly how the Mahavamsa was written right from its beginning. It was written according to the king’s whimps and fancies. What should be written and what should not be written was the discretion of the Buddhist king who ruled and who patronized the Mahavihara monks. What we saw during Rajapakshe’s time in regard to the Mahavamsa is a very good example of what happened in the past.
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Percy / December 13, 2017
There is a leader of the Tiger rump in Sydney called Rajakulendran who believes that Prabakaran is not dead and is living in the Vanni jungles with part of the Tiger army. The man is in cuckoo land and reminds me of the Tamil vedda who thinks that brainless remarks about Tamil culture will impressively body.
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Native Vedda / December 14, 2017
Percy the pathetic
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“There is a leader of the Tiger rump in Sydney called Rajakulendran who believes that Prabakaran is not dead and is living in the Vanni jungles with part of the Tiger army.”
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Don’t you still believe the Dr Mahinda Rajapaksa single handedly won the war and a saint? The war criminals were in fact liberated the Tamils from LTTE. The Anagarika Homeless Dharmapala liberated this island from the Brits. …
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I also heard VP is still alive somewhere in Africa, habitat of Tigers. He will not return to this island even if people request his return. A good excuse for those who swindled the assets of LTTE which belongs to the people. Now VP’s international money launderer KP is in Vanni and freely roaming around. Why don’t you take him to task.
“The man is in cuckoo land and reminds me of the Tamil vedda who thinks that brainless remarks about Tamil culture will impressively body.”
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I suggest you type when you are sober or awake.
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Percy / December 14, 2017
Unfortunately I type in my sleep so typos can happen, OK?
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tamil mooda choon / December 13, 2017
Tamis tell, which history book says Devanampiya Tissa is Tamil. They only come to know the name through Mahavansha. Siva (Not Shivan) part of his father is enough for them to call all these kings and people at time are tamils. No other evidence. But Shiva is pure sanskrit name first appeard in Rig veda. Now tamils say they wrote Rig vega & sanskrit was influenced by tamil. Jesus spoke tamil. Adam spoke tamil. All ancient civilazations done by tamils. Australian aboriginial people spoke tamil. These pathetic tamils have no shame.
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Prasad / December 13, 2017
Choon,
Did you forget your medicine today?
Before asking us, could you please tell us which history book says Devanampiya Tissa is a Sinhalese?
Not just Siva man, Muta Siva. Muta in Tamil is Elder, Siva is God. Could you please tell us the meaning of Muta in Sinhala and the meaning of Siva in Sinhala?
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tamil mooda choon / December 13, 2017
Mahavansha says Vijaya & his followers (included his decendance as Panduvasudeva was his nephew & other 700 men ) are called sihalas. So search relation from Vijaya to Mutasiva. One word Muta is enough for you to tell all kings & people at that time were tamils. In Nagarjunakonda in Andra Pradesh a sihala lady has done a temple & a resting place in 2AD for the devotees ( Inscription says for the sihala brothers) who come from Island thambapanni .
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Prasad / December 14, 2017
Choon,
There is ONLY one sentence in the Mahavamsa Chapter VII which says, “Sihabahu (Vijaya’s father), since he had slain the lion (was called) Sihala and, by reason of the ties between him and them, all those (followers of Vijaya) were also (called) Sihala”
If Sihabahu whose father had slain the lion was called Sihala and his eldest son Vijaya and his followers were also called Sihala, then what about Vijaya’s twin brother Sumitta and his followers in Sinhapura, India? Why they were not called Sihala?
These are all myths, fantasies, superstitions and fables from the Mahavamsa. Are you happy to accept that the Sinhalese are the descendants of Vijaya, the banished profligate son of an incestuous marriage between (Sihabahu) and sister (Sihasivali) whose mother was so exceedingly lustful that only a real lion could satisfy her? Moreover, Sihabahu killed his leonine father, the king of the brutes […] Thus, according to the Mahavamsa, brutishness, bestiality, incest, patricide and profligacy, were the stuff of Sinhale genesis.
The kingdoms of Anuradapura and Polonnaruwa were NEVER known as ‘Sinhala’ kingdoms and the kings who ruled these kingdoms never called themselves ‘Sinhala’ Kings. Today, leave aside the major things like medicine, etc., even the smallest stuff like roof tiles are labelled after ‘Sinhala’. Why didn’t they call Muta Siva or Pandu ka Abaya or several others as ‘Sinhala’ kings?
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wannihami / December 13, 2017
Ajantha murals has a well preserved mural called the “Simhala Avadana” depicting Vijaya’s arrival in Lanka. There you go Prasad, if you wanted illustrated evidence. Yet if you believe Rig veda was also written by Tamils then there is no point trying to show reason or discuss logic with you, it is beyond your intellectual capabilities.
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tamil mooda choon / December 14, 2017
Prasad
Meaning of Muta—attached, tied, loved
Meaning of Shiva other than the God——Auspicious, propitious, gracious, kind, friedly
How forgot to take the pill now.
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Prasad / December 14, 2017
Choon,
From which Sinhala lexicon did you find this? Could you please give us a link?
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Prasad / December 15, 2017
Looks like Choon ran away naked leaving his Amude (loin cloth) here. This is what happens when they come up with blatant lies. Anyways, he will reappear in another thread and repeat the same for sure.
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tamil mooda choon / December 15, 2017
One sentence is more than enough or you expected how many sentences. It also says if somebody not sihala they are Pandyans, Pallavas, Kalingas, Javakas or Cholas. In some other countries also people have stories like this that they are descending from animals. So they sever the connection with the people from where they came & build as a new nation in the arrived country.
Epigraphy was not written by monks. See the sites they were written. Stone craftsmen inscribe them on the request of donors.
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Native Vedda / December 15, 2017
tamil mooda choon
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“Epigraphy was not written by monks. See the sites they were written. Stone craftsmen inscribe them on the request of donors.”
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Could you tell us who kept note on the history of this island later came to be known as Mahawamsa, which by the way not written on stone but on palm leaves.
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tamil mooda choon / December 15, 2017
Prasad
No I have no any intention to educate you or any tamil. You better live in your own fools paradise twisting names & thinking that every ancient civilizations done by tamils & get a mooda choon. By the way write history as you wish & educate it with tamil youth in NE & wait and see what will happen.
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Prasad / December 15, 2017
Choon,
You did not answer any of my questions. Where is the link to that Sinhala Lexicon? What about Sinhabahu’s other children and their followers in India? Why they were not called Sinhala? Now, where exactly is it said that if somebody not Sinhala, then Pandyan, Chola, etc. which chapter? In which other countries do people descend from animals?
You have to learn the basics first before educating others. Your name Moda Choon suits you very well. Don’t change it.
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