26 September, 2017

New Report Exposes Systematic Persecution Of Tamils In Sri Lanka Through Torture, Rape, Illegal Detention And Killings

Six years after the end Sri Lanka’s civil war, a new report by the International Truth & Justice Project exposes the systematic persecution of the Tamil community through torture, rape, illegal detention and killings committed by the state authorities.

 Yasmin Sooka - Executive Director - International Truth & Justice Project - Sri Lanka

Yasmin Sooka – Executive Director – International Truth & Justice Project – Sri Lanka

Through careful research brought to life by the vivid horror of victim testimonials, the report, Still Unfinished War: Sri Lanka’s Survivors of Torture and Sexual Violence 2009-2015, shows how the use of torture and sexual violence is part of a well-coordinated policy, planned at the highest level of the Sri Lankan government and its security forces.

The report goes as far as to identify torturers and rapists. It also pinpoints 41 detention facilities, including secret camps, where victims say they were abused after the war. It lays bare the continuation of state-organised abductions, torture and sexual violence by the security forces long after the change of government in January 2015.

The victims’ stories are harrowing, many are deeply traumatised and continue to suffer mentally long after their detainment. Their families suffer too in the form of reprisals. More than a quarter of the 155 victims interviewed said that their close family members had been severely punished after they had escaped abroad.

The report warns the international community they will fail the victims of this conflict if they do not take action. It calls upon the UN Security

Council to refer its report to the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court for further action against those who bear the greatest responsibility.

Read the full report here

Annexures here

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    Who and what is this Project??? Did this project check how many Sinhalese were Killed, raped, and tortured by Tamils during the civil war?? Why only the Tamils?? Pls go and put the project to the dust bin!

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      Prove it. and Sinhalese a puppet of British Queen.

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        Dear Prem and Analyst

        Is Ms Yasmin Sooka in the Pay of the TGTE?

        Here is the reason why I say so

        CT has been flooded by the TGTE with a deluge of articles in July.

        July 11 (Usha), 12 (Brian), 15 (Usha), 23 (Rudra), 26 (Rudra)
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        Were they preparing the ground for Ms Yasmin Sooka to release an UNFINISHED report?
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        Ms Yasmin Sooka’s integrity is questionable.
        See the comment below for details.
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        https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/new-report-exposes-systematic-persecution-of-tamils-in-sri-lanka-through-torture-rape-illegal-detention-and-killings/comment-page-1/#comment-1865208
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        Kind Regards,
        OTC

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          On ground views you have questioned someone who dared question a author there called Michael Roberts (no relation of mine by the way, my last name is Robert and the author is Roberts).

          In your opinion, who is paying this Michael Roberts then?

          Unlike that author whom I have never heard of, Sooka is a world renowned researcher and law expert. I think she has more credibility don’t you think Off the Cuff/M N I N Perera

          By the way, why are you commenting under two names ? A slip up ?

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            Dear Robert R,

            I have observed the Hand of Corruption reaching in to the UNSG’s POE report and Ms Yasmin Sooka is a signatory of that report.

            I have very clearly explained how the Members of the UNSG’s POE have SUBVERTED the ROME Statute and ignored the ICC in order to exonerate the Terrorist LTTE. The TGTE is the new face of the LTTE and is Led by a Prabahkaran confidante, a member of the Inner Circle of the TGTE.

            I cannot see a similar folly committed by Prof Roberts. But if you can spot something like that why were you silent?

            Apparently you have been struck dumb as you don’t discuss the issues raised and is trying your hardest to draw a Red Herring, a Smoke Screen to HIDE Ms Yasmin’s folly.

            Fitzpatric, whose comment I challenged has gone silent to date.

            Are you unable to differentiate between a name and a pseudonym?

            Kind Regards,
            OTC

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              Having looked into the author a bit (having never heard of him), he seems to be a senile old retired academic who seems to have left his imagination run riot. As one of the comments mention, he seems to quote himself repeatedly. If the original work was of excellent quality then others would have taken it up and published further on it, it seems no one has.
              If he had any credibility why has his arguments not been taken more seriously?

              Are you wanting us to believe the whole world is in some conspiracy against a small group of people and in an island of limited resources?

              As for Fitzpatrick, I suggest you ask him/her, no point in asking me.
              In his/her defense, I sometimes don’t see replies to mine and don’t reply and sometimes the replies to my comments are simply best ignored. Take your pick as to you Fitzpatrick has not replied.

              You still have not answered why you are replying under two names? How many more do you possess ? How many of the negative comments in this section are yours?

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                Dear Robert R,

                I have quoted from the Rome Statute of the ICC and the UNSG’s POE report VERBATIM.

                Only the ability to understand English and to make a comparison of the Rome Statute and the POE report of Yasmin Sooka and co is required to see the obvious misinterpretation made by them

                Though you mat not have that intelligence, many who have read my comment would have understood that for an “EXPERT” panel recognised by the UNSG to make such misdirections when the wording of the Law is very clear something should have influenced them to go out on a limb.

                From the start I knew you were trying to draw a Red Herring to divert attention. I used the opportunity you gave to reinforce the fact that Ms Yasmin Sooka, Mr Darusman and Mr Ratner have been influenced by an organisation such as the TGTE (the new face of the LTTE) materially.

                Re “As for Fitzpatrick, I suggest you ask him/her, no point in asking me. ”

                You must be suffering from Dementia as within just 3 hours you have forgotten that it was you who dragged Ground Views and Fitzpatric over here to CT. Does anyone need any more proof of your Idiocy?

                Re “You still have not answered why you are replying under two names?”

                I answered you with a counter question but I now realise that your language skills are poor. Get some help.

                Are you unable to differentiate between a name and a pseudonym?

                Re ” How many more do you possess ? ”

                If you have an understanding of the technology the sky is the limit. And as Siva points out below you seem to know that already.

                Re “How many of the negative comments in this section are yours?”

                Ha ha haa is the story a positive story?

                Ms Yasmin Sooka is corrupt to the core.
                Only those who are similarly corrupt can turn a blind eye and support her.

                When you start attacking the Messenger and IGNORE the Message any intelligent person will know that you are on the back foot and has no facts to defend yourself with.

                In other words you are intellectually naked. A Dumbo

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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              OTC,

              “Fitzbadrig” hasn’t gone silent, he’s just back under his other surname – Robert, not Roberts :D There’s a few others too that he jumps onto in desperation – it’s hilarious to see “them” suddenly turning up when one is under seige making pathetic attempts at defending “each other” :D

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                Yes I noticed.

                This guy is a TGTE plant
                Sooka is up a gum tree and cannot reply
                So the TGTE goons are trying to cover for her.

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              And of course this “Robert R” is merely an interested, impartial traveller who just happened upon the name Michael Roberts today
              https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/kps-frantic-efforts-to-save-the-tiger-leaders-in-2009-and-usas-pursuits/#comment-1645081

              He had of course never heard of him before
              https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/beheading-murali/#comment-1573836

              And only just now did he discover who Roberts is after doing a bit of research
              https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/nationalism-the-past-and-the-present-the-case-of-sri-lanka/#comment-881725

              He and his other sockpuppets certainly have not been following Roberts’ articles around on CT and GroundViews and making weak personal attacks
              https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/michael-roberts-as-an-apologist-for-sinhala-nationalismchauvinism/#comment-884393

              Maybe he just ‘forgot’ – neurosyphilis does seem to be catching on amongst We Thamizh these days :D

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                Yes Siva, Robert R is one of the TGTE plants whose Job is not to Debate but to filibuster.

                He has not made a SINGLE facts based argument.

                They are doing what the TGTE propagandists cannot do.

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                  LOL Yes, everyone is in the pay of this TGTE lol

                  I wish I was, I could do with the money.

                  The whole world seems to be jealous of SL. Yes, the greatest nation in the world.

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          As far as the Sinhala nationalists are concerned everyone who criticises little ole’ sri lanka is of questionable integrity. The UNHCR, Cameron, Miliband, India, HRW, Amnesty, … the list is endless – all conspiring against the poor Sinhala race.

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            You see Alex you have not written a WORD to contest what I have written. You are going Berserk tearing your hair out in helplessness

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              Hair is quite in tact, unlike the organism on your head that should function as a brain.

              Your points are replete with conjecture and conspiracy. It sounds like something out of Sri Lankas intelligence services. The whole world is just out to get poor Sri Lanka.

              Let’s ignore all the evidence and all the reports from credible and eminent individuals.

              The fact is no one cares what the Sri Lanka goon squad says anymore. The international process has begun and you have done it all by yourselves.

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                Dear Alex.

                Re “Your points are replete with conjecture and conspiracy”

                In that case the Rome Statute of the ICC and the POE report of the Darusman experts must be conjecture and conspiracy because they are what I have quoted. Don’t be idiotic.

                You fear in discussing ANYTHING in my comment addressed to Yasmin Sooka and resorting to irrelevancies speaks of your helplessness.

                Sooka is guilty of subverting the Rome Statute and ignoring the ICC and hiding behind the Red Cross that has no legal standing

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                  It’s very strange that “Alex” seems to spend so much time replying to these “fringe” “conspiracy theories” about his love Sooka trying to point out that they are in fact “fringe” “conspiracy theories” – he seems a bit worried about something which, according to him, no one takes seriously :D

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                    Simply hilarious – oh another conspiracist line – ‘why respond to conspiracies if there is nothing there’ – this would be surreal in anywhere other than sri lanka.

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                      Sooka and Company has subverted International LAW.

                      Nothing hilarious about it.

                      What is hilarious is your puny attempt to defend the Fraudsters without making a single logical repudiating argument.

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                  You have selective quotes and your own convenient interpretation. You and the rest of your deluded sinhala nationalist friends think that this sort of amateur nonsense will fool people .. just hilarious. Get back to your day job and earn your dollar for the day.

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                    Dear Alex,

                    Re “You have selective quotes…”

                    Do you expect me to post the Complete Rome Statute and the Complete UNSG’s POE report to prove where the POE has subverted the Law?

                    What an Idiotic expectation that is!

                    Re “…and your own convenient interpretation”

                    It is not a convenient interpretation but a LOGICAL one. It has stood the test of time since it was posted on July 28, 2015 at 5:07 pm, even with so many Tamil Separatist Intellectuals floating around.

                    You have been unable to challenge a SINGLE point that was raised and has been writing irrelevant rubbish without building your own argument against what I have presented.

                    Re “.. You and the rest of your deluded sinhala nationalist friends think that this sort of amateur nonsense will fool people .. just hilarious. Get back to your day job and earn your dollar for the day”

                    The above is a perfect example of your ability. You have been reduced to a mumbling IDIOT.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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                      My expectations of you whilst suitably low, continue to be exceeded on the downside. Could anyone keep babbling on about the same point, without addressing how Sooka’s report resonates with the UN, HRW, Amnesty, Channel 4, the UK and US annual country reports? So your amateur analysis of international law is right and they are all funded by the now extinct LTTE. Thats your in genius thesis. The trouble for Sinhala nationalists is that in their midst, you are probably deemed bright. Elsewhere on the planet, we would assume a village somewhere is short of an idiot.

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                      Alex your comment of July 29, 2015 at 7:35 pm refers.

                      I have questioned Sooka’s INTEGRITY based on her performance as a member of the UNSG’s Expert Panel.

                      The POE report that Mr. Darusman, Ms. Yasmin Sooka and Mr. Steven Ratner authored has subverted the Rome Statute.

                      The proof of that is embedded in their report and item 237 of the report stands testimony to it.

                      You have been writing and endless tirade and NOT ONE OF THEM addresses the issue. That is because you can’t counter what I have written.

                      If you can produce even one amongst those multitude of reports that resonates with the POE report item 237 please do so.

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                      It seems these exposés together with the latest UN leaks are turning more and more Eelamists like ‘Alex’ into gibbering, nervous wrecks :D Looks like the road to the mythical We Thamizh homeland is going to be rerouted to oblivion yet again :D

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          Yasmin Sooka is also a leading member of the so-called Campaign for Peace and Justice in Sri Lanka (CPJSL). One of the objectives of that organisation is “self-determination” (read “independent state”) for Tamils in Sri Lanka. As a supporter of the aims of Tamil separatism in Sri Lanka she should never have been allowed to be on the UN Secretary General’s Advisory Panel on Sri Lanka and if she had had any professional integrity she would have recused herself from the Panel, but she did not.

          Be the way, in advising the CPJSL, Sooka sits alongside the well-known Australian philosopher of terrorism Bruce Haigh (he believes terrorism is justified if it brings results) and the anti-semitic ethnic Jew Anthony Loewenstein (he thinks the 6 million Jews murdered by the German Nazis is something to joke about.

          Sooka’s reputation for integrity, like Wignesweran’s mentioned elsewhere in CT, is zero and they both represent the clique of people who have enslaved and debauched Tamil politics for too long.

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            Thank you Candidly for the information. I have always known that Sooka was on the Gravy Train.

            Here is an extract from a comment I made on CT over a Year ago on June 13, 2014 at 3:58 pm.

            extract
            The possibility that Ms Yasmin Sooka being in the pay of the Separatist Tamil Diaspora is very real and hence very important.

            Ms Yasmin Sooka has been involved with War Crimes Propaganda against Sri Lanka. She wrote an article under her own name to Groundviews, titled The Empty Findings of Sri Lankas Military Court of Inquiry, on 4 November 2013.

            http://groundviews.org/2013/04/11/the-empty-findings-of-sri-lankas-military-court-of-inquiry/#comment-1002155040

            Here are two responses I made to Ms. Yasmin and Ms. Usha Sriskander Raja the virulent Separatist propagandist, who sprang to Yasmin’s rescue.

            http://groundviews.org/2013/04/11/the-empty-findings-of-sri-lankas-military-court-of-inquiry/#comment-1002155040

            http://groundviews.org/2013/04/11/the-empty-findings-of-sri-lankas-military-court-of-inquiry/#comment-1002155040

            Her essay is also carried by the separatist propaganda website Sangam.org (sans the comments).

            She has continued with her propaganda and has managed to hoodwink many, in to believing that she is driven by Humanitarian concerns.

            The Canadian Ambassador is her latest VICTIM. That she is driven by concerns other than Humanitarian ones, will become clear, if she cannot explain her actions in EXONERATING the LTTE and it’s Financiers of the War Crime of employing Human Shields.

            The Possibility that Mr. Marzuki Darusman, Ms Yasmin Sooka and Mr. Steven R. Ratner accepted a BRIBE so HUGE that they were even willing to risk their Reputation and Career by PROSTITUTING International Law is very real.

            That ALL THREE of them have Modified the meaning of ICRC IHL Rule 97 is INDELIBLY recorded by themselves, in Black and White, in the Report submitted to UNSG.

            No amount of Bribing by the LTTE sympathetic Tamil Diaspora will be able to erase that.

            Unless they can provide a Plausible explanation as to why they deviated from ICRC International Humanitarian Law Rule 97 and EXONERATED the LTTE and its FINANCIERS, they SHOULD be INVESTIGATED for Bribery amongst other things.

            Investigate the Expert Investigators. There is a Prima Facie case against them.

            End extract

            https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/video-voices-against-sri-lankan-rape-last-night-at-canadian-high-commissioners-residence/comment-page-1/#comment-1341158

            At no time after that has TGTE’s Usha dared to challenge me.

            Kind Regards,
            OTC

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              Thank you for the additional information, Off the Cuff. It’s also important to note that even if everyone single one of the claims in this latest report from Sooka were upheld by reputable independent investigators the matter regarding her blatant one-sidedness and refusal to seriously consider the thousands of allegations of crimes committed by the Tamil Tigers would still remain standing as a gigantic monument to this woman’s bias.

              So far as I can tell, Sooka took little interest whatsoever in the 30 year war in Sri Lanka until the final weeks of the Tamil Tigers’ defeat (and if I am wrong on this I hope someone will supply the appropriate references). When the Tigers were butchering Tamil democrats, what did Sooka have to say? When the Tigers committed atrocities against Sinhalese, Moslems and Eastern Tamils, what did Sooka have to say? When a Tamil Tiger suicide bomber blew herself up in Fort Railway Station in 2008 killing 8 school children, 4 adults and injuring hundreds of other, what did Sooka have to say? I could go on for pages and pages listing all the crimes committed by these terrorists, but everyone knows what I am talking about, even those who vote this post done.

              There are, I fear, other possible explanations to Sooka’s lack of sympathy for, and interest, in the victims of the Tamil Tigers in addition to the one you argue for so well. One is that she is, in fact, an out-and-out sympathiser of the Tigers who endorses their actions and is upset that they were defeated so comprehensively and wishes to see the Sri Lankan people punished for doing so. Another explanation is that she is one of small number of lawyers and academics who believe that everyone who commits a crime is actually a victim, and those most of us call *victims* are the ones who should be punished for crime of marginalising or persecuting criminals and psychopaths.

              Whatever the explanation, there is no doubt that Yasmin Sooka is not an independent and open-minded human rights activist with a belief that the rights of all people are equally sacrosanct.

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                Again a barrage of accusations simply because you don’t agree with them. Not one syllable on investigating what they are saying. The messengers are well and truly being executed – sri lankan style.

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                  Ha ha haa, excepting attacking the messenger what else have you done? A Prawn has sh*t in it’s head!

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              Amazing the amount of crap spouted by the Sinhala nationalist camp – you have paragraphs of garbage held together by the words ‘possibility’ and ‘probably’ and they assume you have a sound position. It isn’t surprising that no-one in the IC believes a word you say. Are you all on over-drive working for Gotabaya’s fiction / propaganda department. Well you aren’t earning your dollar for the day, with the drivel you collectively come up with. I think when accusing someone of being corrupt there should at least be a small kernel of evidence – not simple random accusations because the dissent with your views. Alas that is the Sri Lankan way .. well done you are a credit to sinhala nationalism.

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                Alex you say ” I think when accusing someone of being corrupt there should at least be a small kernel of evidence”

                The evidence has existed from the day the UNSG’s POE Report went Public. It is indelibly documented by the POE itself in item 237.

                They IGNORED Article 8 War crimes

                (b) Other serious violations of the laws and customs applicable in international armed conflict, within the established framework of international law, namely, any of the following acts:

                (xxiii) Utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations;

                Which defines the SERIOUS War Crime – Use of a Human Shield.

                It conclusively proves that the POE CIRCUMVENTED the Law and EXONERATED the LTTE.

                Which is CORRUPTION

                Kind regards,
                OTC

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                  It is only ‘Corruption’ if they were paid for it. Where is the evidence of payment? All we have at present is lots of evidence of war crimes, and then a bunch of nutters shouting about ‘corruption’ without any evidence at all – this is Sri Lanka, go and lie down in front of the UN building in Colombo with the JVP.

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                    Sorry Alex you in a bind.

                    Prostituting the Law is Corruption

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                      Lol – is that your new definition of ‘corruption’ by that measure every Sri Lankan government in history is corrupt. I think you got the wrong pseudonym .. should be off-the-boat

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                      Dear Alex,

                      It will save you a lot of embarrassment if you learn to refer to a dictionary before hand.

                      “Lol – is that your new definition of ‘corruption’”

                      Definition of CORRUPTION from Marriam Webster

                      a : impairment of integrity, virtue, or moral principle : depravity
                      b : decay, decomposition
                      c : inducement to wrong by improper or unlawful means (as bribery)
                      d : a departure from the original or from what is pure or correct

                      Look you are naked again. Why don’t you get some tuition in English. It is getting tedious to give meanings of words.

                      Read the POE Report, item 237 and try to reconcile it with the Rome Statute, Article 8, (b) (xxiii) and post your result with your own argument.

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      Lasanda.

      Why don’t you go and put your head in the Dustbin. Shame on you , your kind of terrorists only hide behind the biggest terrorist of Srilanka who ( murdererd innocent who spoke against his politics ) plundered the wealth which were supposed to be used for the hospitals and ill patients , the education of the future generations , the law system ((which was corrupted to core ). The patients were dying ( without Kidney Dialysis equipments ) in hospitals ,cancer patients were deprived of medicines (because the wife of the top thief plundered the money allocated for the cancer patients). The. law system in Srilanka during the past regime was so LAUGHABLE due to the fact the lawyers who promised on oath to serve the People and the country failed to obey the RULE of Law INSTEAD they obeyed the liars and thieves of the country.
      Murderers the thieves and the drug PEDDLERS were not PUNISHED.
      These were ok ?? of course the terrorism prevailed in the country why why in a small country were allowed to reach to that situation??
      Because of the kind of your masters who preached the uneducated masses to carry on being uneducated and sent them to uneducated SIN CITY while they plundered the country and lived in luxury and sent their children for foreign education while the illiterate masses were told to speak in their MOTHER TONGUE AND nothing else.

      90% of population are illiterate in their own way. Something is lacking in our land which we used to achieve so much in the Indian Ocean.
      These politicians failed the generations along the way they failed their duties as well.
      THEY DID NOT LOVE THEIR COUNTRY THEY ONLY LOVED THEMSELVES.

      I hope Lasanda will learn to walk before he runs . It’s Only my humble inner thoughts.
      Man proposes God disposes there is a truth .

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      By the LTTE, for the LTTE –

      Make up one fictitious and pompous committee title, collect a bunch of desperate and frustrated LTTE supporters, add a generous amount of hearsay, make up some stories and put it out to the Western governments that seek the LTTE vote abroad. A perfect recipe loved by this Tiger-based forum and others like it.

      Remember the number of democratically-elected Tamil MP slaughtered by him. Just get it straight – Prabhakaran and his terrorists are gone – never to return and those who benefit from that eradication of that vermin are the Tamil people themselves.

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        What if what they are saying is true? Have you considered that -then what?

        Also the Sri Lankan government killed lots of elected Tamil MPs too.

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          Like who ? Please remember that at no time did the LTTE mention or refer to the Plantation Tamils whom they considered inferior on the cast system that was rigidly followed. in fact, a Jaffna Tamil father would prefer his daughter to marry a Sinhalese rather then an Estate Tamil – get real and see the problems within your race.

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            talk to the point in discussion,your way off mark

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              Being on the point doesn’t help the sinhala nationalist .. their MO is just to evade issues, conjecture and hope that no one notices that they are talking utter crap.

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      Dear Ms Yasmin Sooka,

      You are a signatory of the “Report of the Secretary-General’s Panel of Expert’s on Accountability in Sri Lanka”. The other two signatories being Mr. Marzuki Darusman and Mr. Steven Ratner.

      The three of you have signed this report and I request you to focus your attention on item number 237 of the said report which has indications that the three of you have acted in a manner that raises doubt about your collective Integrity.

      Please read the following very carefully and provide an explanation if such explanation is possible.

      Rome Statute of the ICC
      .
      Article 8, War crimes,
      2(b)(xxiii) Utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations; (page 7)
      .
      According to the above, IF the PRESENCE of a civilian (Tamil civilians) is used to protect military forces (LTTE Cadres) then the LTTE commits the war crime of using Human Shields.
      .
      The POE confirms this “Civilian Presence” in their report (item 237)
      .
      Quote
      “…… they forced thousands of civilians, often under threat of death, to remain in areas under their control during the last stages of the war and enforced this control by killing persons who attempted to leave that area”
      Unquote
      .
      Thus according to the Rome Statute, Article 8, 2(b)(xxiii) The LTTE is GUILTY of the war crime of utilizing a Human Shield.
      .
      That the LTTE located Heavy Guns, Mortar pits, Ammunition dumps, Command centers amongst the civilians is also confirmed by evidence in the public domain (please see aerial photographs taken by Times of London photographers who overflew the No Fire Zones with the UNSG Ban Ki Moon).
      .
      Thus EVERY CONDITION required to be satisfied by the Human Shield Law, of the Rome Statute, in order to find the LTTE guilty, has been satisfied and the LTTE should be found Guilty.
      .
      Let’s look at the POE’s interpretation of the Rome Statute.
      Please refer to the POE report item 237.
      .
      Quote
      “With respect to the credible allegations of the LTTE’s refusal to allow civilians to leave the combat zone, the Panel believes that these actions did not, in law, amount to the use of human shields…”
      Unquote
      .
      The above interpretation of Article 8, War crimes, 2(b)(xxiii) of the Rome Statute contradicts the ICC definition that requires only the proof of,
      .
      a) presence of a civilian or other protected person in a war zone
      b) Utilising that person or persons to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations
      .
      What is inexplicable is that while you have documented the presence of civilians and their forcible retention under threat of Death amongst armed LTTE combatants in your report, for some unexplained reason you have decided to IGNORE the explicit definition of a Human Shield in the Rome Statute Article 8.
      .
      You have collectively IGNORED the Rome Statute Article 8, War crimes, 2(b)(xxiii) and instead refer to Rule 97 of an International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) Study.
      .
      This makes one wonder who the Legal authority is, the ICC or the Red Cross?
      .
      I also note that officials of the TGTE has of late, been flooding the Colombo Telegraph with a deluge of articles written by Ms. Usha Sri Skander Raja, Mr Brian Senewiratne and Mr. Visuvanathan Rudrakumaran.
      .
      The timing of your YET UNFINISHED REPORT which has followed on the heels of Mr. Visuvanathan Rudrakumaran’s most recent article, raises additional doubts about your Integrity.
      .
      I hope you can clear these doubts by making a clear statement explaining the collective thought process of Mr. Marzuki Darusman, Mr. Steven Ratner and yourself in arriving at the opinion “the Panel believes that these actions did not, in law, amount to the use of human shields”
      .
      By this DUBIOUS interpretation, the three of you have undermined the UN and it’s ability to be scrupulously impartial, which is what is expected of the Apex International Forum of the world.
      .
      Kind Regards,
      M.N.I.N. Perera

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        I think Ms Sooka is likely to be more familiar with international law than you.

        More to the point, what should be done about the crimes that have taken place since the new government has come in? They are now complicit to unless they arrest the perpetrators.

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          That is an idiotic excuse Alex

          You don’t need to know the law to interpret simple English.

          I hope you know Simple English

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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            Well, there is Mr Sooka and then there is you and your bum-chum MNIN Perera … hmmm wonder who is more credible.

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              Anybody with intelligence and the ability to read English will know. Unfortunately that would exclude you.

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                The ability spout rubbish on the internet is neither a measure of intelligence not a command of English – as is best evidenced by you.

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                  You see Alex any IDIOT or Mental Retard can call anything Rubbish.

                  But your total inability to prove what you call rubbish is rubbish proves who writes rubbish.

                  I hope that is not too complicated for even an IDIOT like you to comprehend.

                  As I have proved in my comment addressed to Ms Yasmin Sooka, she and her colleagues of the UNSG’s POE, Mr. Marzuki Darusman and Mr. Steven Ratner has Subverted the Rome Statute, Ignored the ICC and exonerated the LTTE of a Grave War Crime, although they themselves document the evidence, which if interpreted within the Rome Statute of the ICC, would have held the LTTE GUILTY of the very crime, they were exonerated by the UNSG’s POE, due to some INCENTIVE the UNSG’s POE had received from an interested party, which probably is the New Face of the LTTE, the TGTE led by Prabahkaran’s Confidante and member of the LTTE high command, Mr. Visuvanathan Rudrakumaran, who is pictured at the link below, with the Megalomaniac Prabahkaran and self confessed war criminal Ms Adelle Balasingham.
                  .
                  Picture of Rudrakumaran with Prabahkaran and Ms Adele Balasingham is here http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iXyM_TBlhpA/U0A1E7dAhCI/AAAAAAAAYm4/Vp4m6nKy8xA/s1600/pirapaharan_delegation.jpg
                  .
                  Either Yasmin Sooka herself (who was given the opportunity to explain) or the usually very active TGTE Propagandist and Sooka supporter and senator TGTE Usha, or the TGTE’s exhibit, the Australian Sinhalese, Brian or the other TGTE senator Vasagar or the TGTE Leader Rudrakumaran, all of whom have been very active on CT this July, has neither been able to defend Sooka and the UNSG’s POE nor have they been able to declare their Policy towards the Self confessed War Criminal who caused the deaths of at least a 100,000 Tamil children.

                  However, they have deployed their quislings, to try and brow beat those who dare question them.

                  Unfortunately for them, the quislings are IDIOTS, who provide more opportunities to expose Sooka and the POE gang of thieves together with their behind the screen Financiers.

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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                    Putting things in bold and implicitly calling people names doesn’t make your points any less moronic.

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                      Dear Alex,

                      Bold letters is a means of placing emphasis on an important point.

                      A guy who forgets what he has written 3 hours ago is obviously having a memory problem.

                      You were trying to draw a Red Herring to divert attention from the issue that was discussed in my comment. I made sure it did not happen.

                      As I have proved in my comment addressed to Ms Yasmin Sooka, she and her colleagues of the UNSG’s POE, Mr. Marzuki Darusman and Mr. Steven Ratner has Subverted the Rome Statute, Ignored the ICC and exonerated the LTTE of a Grave War Crime, although they themselves document the evidence, which if interpreted within the Rome Statute of the ICC, would have held the LTTE GUILTY of the very crime, they were exonerated by the UNSG’s POE, due to some INCENTIVE the UNSG’s POE had received from an interested party, which probably is the New Face of the LTTE, the TGTE led by Prabahkaran’s Confidante and member of the LTTE high command, Mr. Visuvanathan Rudrakumaran, who is pictured at the link below, with the Megalomaniac Prabahkaran and self confessed war criminal Ms Adelle Balasingham.

                      If you have the ability to meet the arguments presented in my comment addressed to Ms Yasmin Sooka please do so, instead of circumventing the ISSUE like a Moron.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                      Appeals to (non) authorities used to be all the rage in the court of Eelam – “It may be demonstrably wrong, but Thesiath Thalaivar proclaimed it, and so it must be!” Anywhere else, not so much, unfortunately for ‘Alex’ :D

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          If she WAS, she would be making a good living out of it, instead of being dependent on a ‘charity’ funded by the ignoble. Sooka is but a puppet rabbiting on and on about what is fed to her by the terror supporters.

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    //Who and what is this Project??? Did this project check how many Sinhalese were Killed, raped, and tortured by Tamils during the civil war?? //

    WOW…. How many???

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      Can you give one example of rape case on Sinhala women by Tamil coward?

      When LTTE was at its peak and when you card board SL Army was hiding under bush ….LTTE could have raped
      1000 s of Sinhala women..but the have not why?

      This report has got weight do you know this?

      Cheers

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        There is a theory that is widely accepted as to why this could not be done…….

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        Cholan – what ever said and done, Ltte had a disciplined force
        and handled women carefully.Never heard during the war,a Sinhala woman soldier or a village damsel was raped, while we saw on channel 4, what happened to Ltte women & village girls.They also paid due respect to the dead soldier by giving a burial with military honors.They also banned consumption of liquor among the cadre. Must give the devil its dues. tho’ they failed to believe
        that nothing can be achieved by use of force.

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          ‘what happened to Ltte women & village girls.They also paid due respect to the dead soldier by giving a burial with military honors’

          …they also attacked villages and slit the throats of the Sinhala men, women and children with knives so that home guards would not be alerted by gunfire…they also kept soldiers and civilians in underground torture chambers discovered after the end of the war…they also used women and children for human shields…they kidnapped children to use as cannon fodder (one per family at least)…oh yes we must certainly give the devils their due…yes they were disciplined, so were the Gestapo…

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            I don’t think anyone is arguing the LTTE was clean. I think the issue here is the need for an investigation of both sides. Whats your point?

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    The Yahapalanaya government has to respond to the allegations regarding 2015, expediously. It has to seek information from Yasmin Sooka and her team and, investgate them diligently. If the allegations prove true, punitive action hound be taken immediately. This government cannot appear to be running with the hare and hunting with the dogs!

    Can such things continue to happen under Yahapanays? Are we being led up the garden path once again?

    Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

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      What is this mad DR mumbling?? In the last 40 or 50 years, has any president done any investigation or punishment? What is this sudden wish for justice from MS??
      Again what a crappy logic… If there is official complain about year 1950 incident and if that president is dead, current president has no responsibility. Holy cr..p … I like to see your Uni supervisor.. he should be familiar with your crappy logic..

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        Mumbling?

        This Yahapalanaya government that has been in power since Jan’15,has to bear responsibility for what happened in the past six months. Did I state that the previous governments, since 1948 do not bear any responsibility for thee misdeeds?

        Isn’t it easier to investigate something recent?

        1. Correction: Expeditiously

        2. punitive action has to be taken—- .

        Dr.RN

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          Have you seen any previous military reports or videos on this, before Jan-2015? I believe those military people were not lying, but that is how they really see it, More than 50% of SB public see the same thing.. Now new leaders, MS/RW, has to play the role of saint and Sando and change these views of military in six months and get an independent report. This won’t happen easily… Previous government ridicule UN by sending O/L qualified military baboon as SL rep…. At least this was stopped. It is not unreasonable to expect and request more from MS/RW.. but be aware of Sinhalese Buddhist and Hindu Tamil cultural values we all live with..
          It look like you expect more as a right but not helping…..
          (what we see from eyes or hear from ears not always close to the reality outside, there are situations what we see through physical eyes and analysed in brain are far away from reality.)

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          Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

          Please note non of the smart ass patriots in this forum are experts on anything.

          They just type according to what they perceive to be right. Some copy paste, some plagiariee, some are racist garbage, some type outright lies, some write for the sake of writing whenever they get writer’s itch, very often unhappy miserable people too type here, …………..

          Those who type frequently believe that they are masters of everything, irrigation, engineering, technology, politics, history, international law, economics, current affairs, language, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, caste history, governance, democracy, rule of law, military science, ……………… except of course about the frog which lived in the well since its birth.

          As a vet you know science has moved on since you first attended school many years ago. So are other disciplines.

          I wish you invest your precious time and resources in the field that you know best and possess expert knowledge, for the sake of the future generation.

          Though agreeing to racist agenda and keeping mum on outright lies are unacceptable, we should spend our time productively for the benefit of our future generation.

          For those who expect other’s to massage their ego on a regular basis let them suffer from mumblitis (the condition where one exaggerates any and all minor illnesses)

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            Wow the Freak show continues with a Green Eyed Donkey Braying nonsensically.

            Hello Tamil trying to deceive the world by pretending to be a Vedda, have you not noticed that you are the Leading Commentator on CT posting mostly two or three line comments sans an argument, on almost Every Web page on CT?

            Why don’t you take a break from sulking with envy and jealousy in a corner and contribute to enrich CT, instead of defecating all over it with your incessant and irrelevant wisecracks?

            No one is stopping you from correcting others when they try to become “Smart Ass Patriots” to use your own phraseology.

            Kind Regards,
            OTC

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            NV,

            Why?

            Does my holding B.V.Sc degree, disqualify me from having other interests?

            Does my holding a PhD, disqualify me from being a citizen and a Tamil, with abiding interest in this country and its affairs?

            I have been fortunate to have varied experiences in my life through varied experiences that have come my way. Do these disqualify me from holding my own views in politics?

            I have been the victim of the rabid aspects of Sinhala and Tamil politics several times over. Does this disqualify me from objecting to political extremism?

            I have seen the results of the war first hand and the scenes are yet vivid. I have also seen how the scene was transformed quickly postwar. Does this disqualify me from challenging words that are not truthful?

            I am living amidst the after effects of the war on a people and society. Am I wrong to report what I see and perceive?

            As someone who studied advanced genetics and Physiology and Applied Physiology during my doctoral studies, am I disqualified from commenting on related topics?

            As someone who has held senior administrative positions in the food, water & beverage and plastic industries, am I disqualified from commenting on the related topics and administration?

            As a person, who has been a life long student of history, religion and philosophy, am I disqualified to comment?

            As a person who spent a large part of my career teaching at the University level, am I disqualified to write on related matters?

            I can continue asking more such questions.

            Dr.RN

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              Rajasingham,

              Your qualifications do not disqualify you from having interest or making objective comments on any other fields of interest.

              The issue is your overly outrageous self-importance and know-it-all persona you have built in your mind, all because of your Ph.D and Vet degree! You could not be more wrong. A quick example was your claim that MR was a very honourable and trustworthy leader, and that your assertion to that effect was based on the mind-reading capability you were privileged to earn during the Veterinary studies.

              I wonder if Sri Lanka Vet School should consider including “humility” as a compulsory subject in their curriculum, based on just one past alumni!

              Incidentally, there is a school of thought that some contributors have the compulsion to necessarily add their totally irrelevant Dr. title in comments of very general nature, far removed from their field of expertise, only because of self-consciousness that their contributions to the forum cannot stand on its own for its intellect, and thus need some pre-emptive propping up. I agree, it may not be the case always, but some of you certainly give significant validation to that school of thought!

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              Good Response RN

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              Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

              “I can continue asking more such questions.”

              I welcome you and others raising sensible and relevant issues in this forum and elsewhere. However the point I have attempted to make here is that one should not be misled by bigots whose agenda is to keep racism alive.

              All what I want is for you to study all the arguments rationally put across with evidence. You seem to be easily swayed by lies and more lies.

              I am told that a number of experts who have already studied water shortage in the peninsula and have prepared numerous reports based on field surveys and recommendations that provide alternative solutions. The authors of reports had already sought UN expertise in drafting their findings. Therefore the readers should not be persuaded to rely on heresy that is being churned out day in day out by bigots and liars.

              I have never questioned your qualifications nor your ability to think. However my worry is that you are being used by racist to justify their own long term agenda. Hope you would question not only their judgement but their intentions too. If you don’t mind I suggest you fatcheck the information that is fed to you as authentic race neutral.

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                Thanks Native Vedda
                Well said.

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                Dear NV,

                Thanks.

                I did not expect such a generalized comment from you.

                I consider water the most critical problem confronting the Jaffna peninsula and the north in general now. This should be a priority for our politicians. It is bound to get worse and not better unless decisive and quick action is taken to activate the Jaffna River Project, in all its ramifications.

                I have dealt with high salinity water, reverse osmosis equipment and water bottling in Saudi Arabia as part of my overall duties. I have also kept abreast of developments in the field. Further, I am aware the problems in the peninsula through personal experience , reading the information available and listening to persons actively engaged in advancing the cause.

                I am not easily influenced by anyone, unless I am convinced by facts. OTC knows what he is talking about on the subject. Further, I like his approach. He presents his stands with references. It is for others to provide counter evidence to contest him. I agree with him on many matters and have disagree with him on others. When I do not have evidence or references to contest him, I do not join the discussion. He is a clever person, though on the caste issues he does not comprehend the new developments. One has to live here to understand the changes taking place rather rapidly.

                I appreciate most of your comments, which add subtle substance to the subject under discussion. There are also comments I disagree with. Further, I appreciate you more for the references you provide and your wise stance on many matters. Without your comments CT will not be what it is. You and Amarasiri, expose hypocrisy, quite boldly. We however, can not condemn others, because of their views and label them with negative connotations. None of us can be labelled correctly. We are mixed bags of several personalities and conditioning. Most of us do not know each other and hence can not be judgmental. We can condemn nastiness only in relation to what we read here and not the person engaging in it, even under a pseudonym (sometimes multiples).

                Best regards,

                Dr.RN

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                  Rajasingham,

                  Here you go again.

                  Even despite all the objective, well intended criticisms and suggestions as the one by NV above, you are still patronizingly if not pompously cocksure “I am not easily influenced by anyone, unless I am convinced by facts.”

                  Do you think your close-encounter with MR after which you proclaimed him to be a trustworthy, honourable leader is testimony to your belief “I am not easily influenced by anyone, unless I am convinced by facts”.

                  You do need to wake up and smell the coffee sometime. Keeping the head buried deep is strictly an ephemeral comfort!

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                  Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

                  “I am not easily influenced by anyone, unless I am convinced by facts. OTC knows what he is talking about on the subject. Further, I like his approach. He presents his stands with references.”

                  Excerpt from Off the Cuff’s, (July 29, 2015 at 11:46 am) typing:

                  “The Possibility that Mr. Marzuki Darusman, Ms Yasmin Sooka and Mr. Steven R. Ratner accepted a BRIBE so HUGE that they were even willing to risk their Reputation and Career by PROSTITUTING International Law is very real.”

                  Could you independently verify his above trash. Do you agree with him/her/it?

                  Do you trust Darusman, Sooka and Ratner or OTC and other war crime deniers?

                  If you are in agreement with him/her/it could you tell us how much bribe did they accept? How were they paid?

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                    Dear Tamil masquerading as a Vedda,

                    Addressing Dr NR you ask him “Do you trust Darusman, Sooka and Ratner or OTC and other war crime deniers?”

                    Truth is not Judged by TRUST but by FACTS.

                    Here is POE item 237

                    237. Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions: Credible allegations point to a violation of Common Article 3’s ban on the taking of hostages insofar as they forced thousands of civilians, often under threat of death, to remain in areas under their control during the last stages of the war and enforced this control by killing persons who attempted to leave that area. (With respect to the credible allegations of the LTTE’s refusal to allow civilians to leave the combat zone, the Panel believes that these actions did not, in law, amount to the use of human shields insofar as it did not find credible evidence of the LTTE deliberately moving civilians towards military targets to protect the latter from attacks as is required by the customary definition of that war crime (Rule 97, ICRC Study)

                    let’s look at the following section of the above

                    “they forced thousands of civilians, often under threat of death, to remain in areas under their control during the last stages of the war and enforced this control by killing persons who attempted to leave that area”

                    The POE Documents
                    1. The Presence of Civilians (thousands)
                    2. Civilians held against their will (threat of death).
                    3. LTTE killed escaping civilians (executing the threat)
                    4. LTTE PRESENCE amongst the Civilians.

                    Hence the LTTE is using the presence of civilians to protect themselves from attacks by Govt Troops.

                    Here is the relevant section of the Rome Statute Article 8 War crimes
                    .
                    (xxiii) Utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations;
                    .
                    As you can see, the POE’s DOCUMENTED observations, fits like a glove to the Rome Statute’s Definition of that war crime.
                    .
                    Hence how can the LTTE be EXONERATED of War Crime 8 (b) (xxiii)?

                    The POE has created a confusion by NOT referring to International Law (The Rome Statute of the ICC) and instead referring to a NON LEGAL study made by the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC).

                    The confusion is deliberately created in order to EXONERATE THE LTTE of the Grave War Crime defined by the Rome Statute War Crime 8 (b) (xxiii).

                    What was the INCENTIVE that drove the POE to
                    1. IGNORE the Rome Statute of the ICC?
                    2. Use a NON LEGAL Red Cross study?
                    3. EXONERATE the LTTE of using a Human Shield despite the evidence already documented by them?

                    Hence the POE has Prostituted International Law

                    If you have a different view other than the “DUBIOUS BELIEF IN A TRUST” Please state it and argue your case as I have done, with Facts.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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                Dear NV,

                Prime Minister Ranil Wickremasinghe is quoted as having said at a UNPFF propaganda meeting held in Nallur, Jaffna,yesterday:

                “He said the Cement Corporation factory in Kankesanthurai and the Paranthan Chemical factory will also be revived to provide more employment opportunities. The industries existing in the Northern Province at present will be further developed.

                Appropriate measures will also be taken to resolve the burning issue of drinking water shortage in the region, he said”

                He recognizes the drinking water problem as a burning issue. I contend that the water crisis is much wider in scope.

                Have the Tamil politicians taken up this issue in the ongoing election campaign? Was I wrong in welcoming OTC’s contributions to the discussion on water?

                I of course (Heretic did as well), disagree with the rebuilding of the KKS cement factory. It will be an environmental disaster in terms of both air quality and water quality- two vital ingredients to sustain life?

                Politics is the art of getting things done to meet the needs of human society.

                Dr.RN

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                  Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

                  “Have the Tamil politicians taken up this issue in the ongoing election campaign?”

                  ITAK’s resolution mentions the need to bring water to Jaffna from Iranaimadu. Please see excerpt below:

                  Full Text Of The ITAK 15 Resolutions Including Merger Of The North And East Provinces

                  Excerpt from the ITAK resolutions

                  Resolution 13

                  The many natural resources like minerals, forests and sand in the Tamil areas must be preserved along with rain water. The environmental degradation due to personal gains must be arrested. The Iranaimadu Water Project will have to be re-formulated. The Arumugam Plan must be implemented. The farmers near the Iranamadu Tank must have priority over the water there. The excess water and the water from the implementation of the Arumugam Plan may be utilised for the water needs of Jaffna peninsula.

                  Could you deal with my earlier comment:

                  Native Vedda
                  July 31, 2015 at 10:36

                  Regarding cement factory, a friend of mine who worked at the KKS cement factory mentioned about people around that area suffering from respiratory problems and damage done to small scale farms and environment.

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                    NV,

                    Thanks for resolution 13 text. Where is it from and when was it passed?

                    “Regarding cement factory, a friend of mine who worked at the KKS cement factory mentioned about people around that area suffering from respiratory problems and damage done to small scale farms and environment.”

                    I can confirm this. I know some IDPs from that area who have described dust coming from the factory. I have heard that some of the IDPs who have returned to their homes oppose the reopening of the factory based on the environmental problems they remember. I believe that most of the IDPs have not returned.

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                      Heretic

                      “Where is it from and when was it passed?”

                      This was published in Colombo Telegraph on September 9, 2014.

                      Full Text Of The ITAK 15 Resolutions Including Merger Of The North And East Provinces

                      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/
                      full-text-of-the-itak-15-resolutions-
                      including-merger-of-the-north-and-east-provinces/

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                NV,

                “I am told that a number of experts who have already studied water shortage in the peninsula and have prepared numerous reports based on field surveys and recommendations that provide alternative solutions.”

                This has unfortunately been going on for many years now. Note that there is a shortage of water and especially drinking water.

                “The authors of reports had already sought UN expertise in drafting their findings.”

                Are you referring to very new reports? I hope so. Any more information you are able to provide would be appreciated.

                “Therefore the readers should not be persuaded to rely on heresy that is being churned out day in day out by bigots and liars.”

                One of my main problems regarding Jaffna Peninsula water is that the results of the recent Chunnakam studies appear to be contradictory. Who should we believe when some claim that there is nothing much wrong with the Chunnakam water and the others decide to urgently send a R/O facility because the water is polluted?

                Can our politicians decide how Chunnakam water is instead of qualified professionals? Sadly the answer apparently is that they can.

                At least it is easy to detect water that is brackish by tasting it. It also clogs everything like taps, pipes, washing machines etc in case further evidence is needed.

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        Dear Dr Rajasingham Narendran,

        Is Ms Yasmin Sooka in the Pay of the TGTE?

        CT has been flooded by the TGTE with a deluge of articles in July.
        .
        July 11 (Usha), 12 (Brian), 15 (Usha), 23 (Rudra), 26 (Rudra)
        .
        Were they preparing the ground for Ms Yasmin Sooka to release an UNFINISHED report?
        .
        Ms Yasmin Sooka’s integrity is questionable.
        See the comment below for details.
        .
        https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/new-report-exposes-systematic-persecution-of-tamils-in-sri-lanka-through-torture-rape-illegal-detention-and-killings/comment-page-1/#comment-1865208
        .
        Kind Regards,
        OTC

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          Yes its all lies by the entire international community against the noble Sinhalese race … the army marched with a gun in one hand and the human rights bible in the other … not a single civilian casualty – there is such a lot of rubbish that emanates from the little island .. you sound more and more like North Korea everyday.

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            Alex you are going ballistic because you can do nothing to Save Sooka’s reputation. She has sold her sold to the devil. In this case the TGTE

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              I am enjoying the fact that Sri Lanka is now used in the same sentence as North Korea, Sudan, and a bunch of other third world states under the UN microscope. Ms Sooka’s reputation is fine, its the Sinhala nationalists going ‘ballistic’ with conspiracy theories about how the ‘West’ and the ‘LTTE’ are out to get them. Crazy is as crazy does.

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          Dear OTC,

          Before burdening Rajasingham with the query “Is Ms Yasmin Sooka in the Pay of the TGTE?”, could we home in a little with a much easier task for Rajasingham to answer on behalf of himself!

          [Edited out]

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          Dear Off The Cuff,

          Before burdening Rajasingham with the query “Is Ms Yasmin Sooka in the Pay of the TGTE?”, could we home in a little with a much easier task for Rajasingham to answer on behalf of himself!

          [Edited out]

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            Dear Kumar R,

            Ms Yasmin Sooka is a member of a Corrupt UN Panel that has taken an Unprecedented step of openly SUBVERTING International Law.

            They have produced a CORRUPT Report on Sri Lanka possibly due to some incentive given to them by an organisation connected to the LTTE (they have exonerated the LTTE of a Very Grave War Crime even though actual evidence (not credible allegations) have been recorded by them.

            The TGTE is led by a confidante of Prabahkaran and a member of the LTTE Inner circle and a colleague of the self confessed war criminal, Ms Adelle Balasingham. There appears to be a very close rapport between Usha of the TGTE and Ms Yasmin Sooka.

            Circumstantial evidence indicates that the TGTE prepared the ground for Ms Sooka to make this INCOMPLETE report public before end July. TGTE is the New Face of the LTTE, just like the TRO was in the past. Hence she is a threat to Sri Lanka and her Citizens irrespective of ethnicity.

            The way I see it Dr R.N is not a threat and he has not given me any cause to censure or attack him, though there are a few matters on which he and I do not see eye to eye.

            Kind Regards,
            OTC

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          Dear OTC,

          Possible. However, this does not negate the need for an inquiry. These accusations must be met headhead on, investigated and answered.

          Dr.RN

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            Rajasingham,

            Whenyou say “these accustionsmust be met head on”, did you mean the
            (a) accusations pointed out in Ms.Sooka’s report,
            (b) OTC’s accusation that Ms. Sooka is o LTTE pay, or
            (c) both?

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              Dear Kumar R,

              I have Proven that Yasmin Sooka along with the other members of the POE has Subverted the Rome Statute. It is not an accusation. It is a Fact.

              So far no one has been able to counter it.

              To do what they did they needed an incentive,

              1. Ideological like the ISIS
              2. Monetary, an offer too lucrative to be refused.

              The beneficiaries of Sooka’s expert opinion documented in POE item 237 is only the living LTTE members. [Edited out]

              TGTE is led by such a man, V Rudrakumaran, a close Prabahkaran confidante and a member of the LTTE inner circle. I stated this in my comments and no one has contradicted me to date.

              Kind Regards,
              OTC

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                You have proven that you have the deductive ability of a child

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                  Is that why you are still mumbling helplessly?

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                    Mumbling would make more sense than the gibberish you keep re-writing in bold and capitals lol

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                Dear OTC,

                Given that you are so convinced on these issues, why not ennourage an independent investigtion, inluding the affairs of Ms. Sooka.

                You sure can and should have your views expressed, but it is the reluctance for impartial investigation, with one exuse or other, that does not speak well for the conviction you have.

                If you are, as the first step, supporting the need for an impartial investigation, I am all with you!

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                  Dear Kumar R,

                  The UNSG’s POE conducted an INDEPENDANT investigation and the report they produced was Corrupt.

                  Read POE item 237 and try to reconcile it with the Rome Statute, Article 8, (b) (xxiii) and post your result with your own argument.

                  If you can arrive at a conclusion that supports the POE’s then we can discuss further.

                  Can you do that please?

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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                    Dear OTC,

                    You embarrass me with flattery!

                    Please note that while you and I can express our individual views, I am quite sure that at least I, between the two of us, do not have the capacity or authority to declare UNSG’s POE as corrupt or not.

                    While not wanting to underestimate your capability and authority, let me confess that it is far beyond my capacity to verify or decide if “UNSG’s POE INDEPENDANT investigation and the report they produced was Corrupt” or not. Also, I must humbly note that I can hardly “Read POE item 237 and try to reconcile it with the Rome Statute, Article 8, (b) (xxiii)” and provide an argument.

                    It is for these purposes, I thought, much of my money is taken as taxes to use professionals to handle these that are so over our (at least my) head!

                    My request is quite simple. Even if one or more independent Reports did not meet its independence does that mean that the issues that were to be investigated now go uninvestigated? How fair would that be for those affected?

                    I realize as far as you are concerned UNSG’s POE was corrupt, the same way as Ms. Sooka is corrupt, I would assume that South African lady who was for investigation was corrupt. Also corrupt was the Group of Eminent persons led by Justice Bagwati who spent several months but left the country in disgust pointing out the State’s obstructions in the investigtions.

                    So, can we somehow find a non-corrupt institution for independent investigation by a group that is beyond LTTE’s reach – or do you feel that LTTE has unlimited reach and so no independent group could be found.

                    Anyhow, before getting into the nitty-gritty of screening and identifying an independent group – first things first – let’s discuss if you are supportive that there is a need for an impartial investigation or not?

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                      Dear Kumar R,

                      I have no issue with an Investigation. I have an issue with the process and if you stand for JUSTICE, you should be having an issue with the Process too. I don’t know how many Tamils here think like that but IF they seek JUSTICE they should think the same way.

                      If one or more independent Reports did not meet its independence those reports should be thrown out and a fresh report called for.

                      The Authors of corrupt reports should be held to account in the same way corrupt police are held to account, in order to discourage others from doing the same thing.

                      The investigators should be beyond reproach.
                      The court should not be a Kangarooo court
                      The Judges should be completely impartial

                      And the scope enlarged to cover the FULL 27 years of war.

                      The victims were not only Tamils in the Vanni but the complete range of Sri Lankan Society. Bombs in Public Transport Kills all and does not distinguish between Ethnicity, Sex, Religion or Age.

                      The perpetrators were not only those who were engaged in combat but also those who financed the war.

                      BTW I did not ask you to pass judgement. I asked you to reconcile a specific paragraph in the POE report.

                      Your command of English is certainly up to that task.

                      Here is POE item 237

                      237. Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions: Credible allegations point to a violation of Common Article 3’s ban on the taking of hostages insofar as they forced thousands of civilians, often under threat of death, to remain in areas under their control during the last stages of the war and enforced this control by killing persons who attempted to leave that area. (With respect to the credible allegations of the LTTE’s refusal to allow civilians to leave the combat zone, the Panel believes that these actions did not, in law, amount to the use of human shields insofar as it did not find credible evidence of the LTTE deliberately moving civilians towards military targets to protect the latter from attacks as is required by the customary definition of that war crime (Rule 97, ICRC Study)

                      let’s look at the following section of the above

                      “they forced thousands of civilians, often under threat of death, to remain in areas under their control during the last stages of the war and enforced this control by killing persons who attempted to leave that area”

                      The POE Documents the Presence of Civilians (thousands)
                      POE say Civilians were held against their will (threat of death).
                      POE says the LTTE killed civilians caught escaping.
                      POE notes the LTTE PRESENCE amongst the Civilians.

                      Hence the LTTE is using the presence of civilians to protect themselves from attacks by Govt Troops.

                      Here is the relevant section of the Rome Statute Article 8 War crimes

                      (xxiii) Utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations;

                      As you can see, the POE’s DOCUMENTED observations, fits like a glove to the Rome Statute’s Definition of that war crime. Unfortunately NOT a SINGLE Tamil, has the Strength of Character to say so.

                      Hence how can the LTTE be EXONERATED of War Crime 8 (b) (xxiii)?

                      Kind Regards
                      OTC

                      Note- Here is the link to the Rome Statute http://www.icc-cpi.int/iccdocs/PIDS/publications/RomeStatutEng.pdf

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                      Dear OTC,

                      When you say “I have no issue with an investigation”, do you mean you would support a call for an investigation (impartial, of course), or are you suggesting you are indifferent even if an impartial investigation can be arranged? Could you please be explicit?

                      As for your thoughts “The victims were not only Tamils in the Vanni but the complete range of Sri Lankan Society. Bombs in Public Transport Kills all and does not distinguish between Ethnicity, Sex, Religion or Age. The perpetrators were not only those who were engaged in combat but also those who financed the war.” I think an impartial hearing by implies that, although on more detailed defining of the scope such as “And the scope enlarged to cover the FULL 27 years of war.” my thoughts are that I will defer that to the impartial investigation team – otherwise, it may be both “jumping the gun” and also rather presumptuous on my part.

                      I am not sure what you mean by “You should have an issue with the process too” – I am not sure if I have an issue, but am truly concerned that the process be kept impartial, if that is what you meant – that, I would have thought, goes without saying, by the insistence on the adjective “impartial.”

                      “If one or more independent Reports did not meet its independence those reports should be thrown out and a fresh report called for. The Authors of corrupt reports should be held to account in the same way corrupt police are held to account, in order to discourage others from doing the same thing.” – Agreed! The ideal option is to seek help via an impartial investigation. Right?

                      “The investigators should be beyond reproach. The court should not be a Kangarooo court The Judges should be completely impartial.” Agreed! Any reason why you think the previous ones were Kangaroo courts? Who exactly commissioned those reports – were they not selected with diligence and appropriate authorities? Were they “pushed down” our throats instead? Why were we not diligent? I would think it kind of unsportsmanlike to malign an umpire we chose, just because he ruled against us. Right?

                      Or do you feel LTTE bought them over after and despite the vigilant, scrutinized selection? Do you believe that even Bagwati’s team was not impartial, and that they were bought over by LTTE? Do you think there exists some international institution that will be beyond reproach, and not within LTTE’s reach? Or is LTTE is so omnipresent in the rest of the World that any impartial investigation can be done only by Sri Lankan internal team, perhaps even a Military appointed team – the only one beyond reproach. I have a suggestion – perhaps one should approach a combined team of eminent faculty from a selection of international Universities – would you have any confidence in that approach – or do you feel they too are chicken feed for LTTE?

                      As for “BTW I did not ask you to pass judgment. I asked you to reconcile a specific paragraph in the POE report” I don’t see where I had stated that you asked me to pass judgment. In any case I assure you, despite your confidence and repeated flattery, any attempt by me to reconcile as you request will be a pointless task. First of all, I am sure the report went through scrubbing by professionals way beyond my capabilities, and so my pointing out defects, if any, will have no practical impact. Let’s leave it to a qualified impartial investigating team.

                      In that context, I certainly appreciate your deep concern that “Authors of corrupt reports should be held to account in the same way corrupt police are held to account, in order to discourage others from doing the same thing.” thus doubly confirming your keenness on an impartial investigation.

                      Thank you for your support – this is what bothered me for so long that so many (such as Dayan) were so staunchly, if not belligerently against any investigation – and am so glad you are not in that herd of hypocritical scum-bags!

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                      Dear Kumar R

                      let’s look at the following text.

                      “they forced thousands of civilians, often under threat of death, to remain in areas under their control during the last stages of the war and enforced this control by killing persons who attempted to leave that area”

                      The above text Documents
                      1. The Presence of Civilians (thousands)
                      2. Civilians held against their will (threat of death).
                      3. Escaping civilians were killed (executing the threat)
                      4. PRESENCE of the killers amongst the Civilians.

                      Do you agree?

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                      Dear Off the Cuff,

                      Please let me assure you that if there is one thing I know better than you, it is about my own capabilities and limits. So, kindly trust me on that!

                      If it is as simple as you suggest then obviously the State did not live up to its responsibility of due diligence in approving the investigating outfit, nevermind who proposed it. If the Sooka team was of such goons that they could not unearth this critical truth that you have so casually and cost-lessly unearthed, then don’t you think you should fault the State for its ineptitude in either selecting this horrendously incapable team, or being cowardly in not challenging the appointment of that worthless team. Nevertheless, in my books, faulting the umpire only after he rules against you is not cricket — not good cricket!

                      I am saddened that you would gloss-over the other concerns though: Would you enthusiastically support an impartial investigation that will also address your concerns about LTTE buying over the likes of Sooka’s team or are you indifferent about an impartial investigation? Do you think Bagwathi’s team was also impartial? Would a consortium of eminent faulty be a concept that could work with impartiality? If not what would be your suggestion for an impartial team? Or are you convinced that LTTE has far too long a reach that nothing will work except a team made of and supervised by the Sri Lankan Armed forces, which is the only one that is immune to LTTE bribing? I might add that I am at a loss to reconcile that with the suggestion from Rajasingham that SL Navy is being bribed by the puny Tamil Nadu boat operators. Rajasingham must be off his rocker !

                      Kindest regards,

                      Kumar R.

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                      Dear Kumar R,

                      My comment time stamped August 1, 2015 at 12:33 am provided an extract from a statement made by the POE in their report.

                      I am not aware of your capabilities other than your English Language skills, which are amply demonstrated by what you write and the skill with which you negotiate the questions in order to obfuscate or avoid direct answers. A driver’s skill is displayed by his driving, the ability to avoid pot holes on the road but yet drive at speed.

                      In recognition of that skill, I carefully removed all references to either the POE or the LTTE from it.

                      I used that extract and recorded my observations numbered 1 to 4 and asked you whether I was correct.

                      Unfortunately you have avoided giving a Simple straight forward answer. Why? Is it because I removed all the hooks that you were using to hang your cloak on? It seems to me that you are afraid to face facts about the INTEGRITY of Yasmin Sooka and the other Members of the UNSG’s POE.

                      Unless you have the Strength of character to give honest strait forward answers that match your skill noted above, I don’t see any point in continuing the discussion any Further.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                      Dear Off the Cuff,

                      Getting your knickers twisted is not “objective”

                      Did you not notice the statement that you yourself repeated in highlighted “the Panel believes that these actions did not, in law, amount to the use of human shields.” Do you think I have adequate information, the nitty-gritty in the Law if you will, to overrule an inference drawn by a panel of professionals paid handsomely for their skills and comprehension of the relevant Laws that helped them get to that conclusion. Perhaps you have difficulty in understanding that this may involve something more than the ability to read English.

                      I am not in the habit of second-guessing my doctor, just because now I can Google – but I am certainly open to getting a second opinion from another expert, if I am uncomfortable with the first! I am neither presumptuous nor conceited to believe otherwise.

                      I will let you take a second guess at who is obscuring and evading the simplest of all and most objective question of concern, going forward – “Given all these seeming incongruence, suspicion, allegation, concern, consideration, what-have-you, are you willing to AGGRESSIVELY SEEK AND SUPPORT AN IMPARTIAL INVESTIGATION of this whole morass?”

                      Are you truly unlike that herd of scumbags (such as DJ) who merely give lip-service to seeking truth and then place relentless obstructions all the way that can only be explained by a combination of cowardice and guilt. Just as Bagwathi’s experienced!

                      I will let you now walk up to the mirror to spot the one wanting in “Strength of character to give honest strait forward answers that match your skill.”

                      Kindest regards,

                      Kumar R.

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                      Dear Kumar R,

                      You ask “Did you not notice the statement that you yourself repeated in highlighted “the Panel believes that these actions did not, in law, amount to the use of human shields.”

                      Yes I noticed it and I also noticed that it is not the Law.

                      The Panel quotes the ICRC (Red Cross) Study Rule 97 which is not the Law.

                      The Law is the Rome Statute, Article 8, (b) (xxiii) of the ICC. Have the POE referred to it anywhere? No, they have COMPLETELY BLACKED IT OUT.

                      That is the deception the POE practiced. That is why the POE is corrupt.

                      You see Kumar, even the Highest Paid can be corrupt and the POE, IS corrupt.

                      All this time you avoided discussing the POE report 237 and your response on August 1, 2015 at 7:17 pm shows that you have not made any effort to read my arguments and was more interested in obfuscating.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                      Dear OTC,

                      I am absolutely sure that my reading or not reading your passages is relevant to whether an impartial hearing on the whole morass (including of course the OTC-proven POE corruption) is necessary or not. Let me explain, if that has occurred to you.

                      Note that if I tried to read as per your request and form an opinion, there are just two possible outcomes,

                      (1) I am, despite limited skills, able to confirm your view that “it cannot be reconciled.” So, in your view and in my view the Panel would be considered corrupt. You would then agree that an impartial investigation is in order – right?

                      (2) Conversely, say I find some oblique, illogical reasoning (to hang my coat as you suggest) that leads my view astray and thus not in alignment with yours.—wouldn’t you still want an impartial investigation? Or would you then take my word for it?!

                      In any case, I will agree with you as in (1) above. What is more, I am also in agreement with your statement “even the Highest Paid can be corrupt.” Frankly I have no way to disprove you on that, but that does not matter – I will agree with you. So now can I ask you “will you actively seek and support an impartial investigation?”

                      Instead of answering that, if you still want to be stuck in the “Kumar R. Please read the POE Summary” stance, can you explain to me exactly why you need my opinion on this – do you think you can convince even one other soul that “Kumar R. has corroborated this critical truth that I unearthed – and so that should end the discussion”?!

                      What exactly is the endpoint that you are targeting?

                      Aren’t you merely holding onto to a pointless straw man to wriggle out of the question “will you actively support an impartial investigation”?

                      In that sense, you now make me distrust my previous exclusion of you from that herd of scum-bags who pretend to seek the truth but are intent on nothing but burying the truth as deep as one possibly can to hide their shame and guilt, appallingly insensitive to the agony, misery and anguish of the thousands of the war victims, on both sides.

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                      Dear Off the Cuff,

                      Incidentally, here are two nonsensical accusations that you threw in for theater. Else can you explain, explicitly :

                      “Unfortunately you have avoided giving a Simple straight forward answer. Why?” – your comment on August 1, 2015 at 9:44
                      What is the question for which I did not answer? On the other hand would you like for me to re-iterate the questions you were asked and which you glossed over, repeatedly? Wouldn’t that make you a hypocrite?

                      “All this time you avoided discussing the POE report 237 and your response on August 1, 2015 at 7:17 pm shows that you have not made any effort to read my arguments and was more interested in obfuscating.” August 1, 2015 at 11:40 pm

                      What exactly was I obfuscating. Did I ever make it unclear to you I had no interest in either reading the POE summary you posted or in trying presumptuously interpreting it? What part was not clear to you?

                      Best reads as always!

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                      Dear Kumar R,

                      This refers to your comments time stamped August 2, 2015 at 4:06 am and August 2, 2015 at 4:30 am

                      Your engagement with me commenced on July 28, 2015 at 10:10 pm when
                      you tried to use me as a cat’s paw against Dr Rajasingham Narendran, a man I respect for his honesty.

                      Vide your comment “Before burdening Rajasingham with the query
                      “Is Ms Yasmin Sooka in the Pay of the TGTE?”, could we home in a little with a much easier task for Rajasingham to answer on behalf of himself!”

                      My reply to you on July 29, 2015 at 1:53 am, politely rejected that attempt while confirming my stand on Yasmin Sooka as a Corrupt individual.

                      Here is a synopsis.

                      Ms Yasmin Sooka is a member of a Corrupt UN Panel that has taken an Unprecedented step of openly SUBVERTING International Law. By doing so they have exonerated the LTTE of a Grave War Crime, viz use of Human Shields. Hence she is a threat to Sri Lanka and her Citizens irrespective of ethnicity. The way I see it Dr R.N is not a threat and he has not given me any cause to censure or attack him, though there are a few matters on which he and I do not see eye to eye.

                      While evading discussion on what I have stated about Yasmin Sooka,
                      you brought up the question of an independant investigation in order to conflate the POE’s Integrity issue that I raised.

                      (My very first comment on this article was addressed to Sooka on July 28, 2015 at 5:07 pm and states “The three of you (POE members) have signed this report and I request you to focus your attention on item number 237 of the said report which has indications that the three of you have acted in a manner that raises doubt about your collective Integrity”).

                      I pointed out to you that the Independent investigations have already been carried out by an International Independent Panel, the UNSG’s Panel of Experts. However they managed to OBLITERATE Article 8(b)(xxiii) of the Rome Statute when expressing an opinion
                      in their report item 237, EXONERATING the LTTE of using a Human Shield, which under that said Article, is a Grave War Crime.

                      Thus the System failed and needs to be corrected in order to
                      prevent a repetition.

                      If the Report they produced is corrupt, the Independent Investigators are Corrupt. No further action can be taken using a corrupt report and Corrupt investigators.

                      The corrupt investigators should be investigated and penalised to deter any future acts of Impunity. The Laws and Rules governing such Independent Investigations should be able to deliver REAL JUSTICE, not the Justice of the Klu Klux Gang.

                      The First priority therefore is to establish foolproof mechanisms with which independent Investigations can be carried out.

                      This cannot happen unless it is accepted that the UN Secretary General’s Independent Investigation was corrupt.

                      Without the mechanisms in place it’s fruitless to talk about Independent Investigations as we have seen what power, influence and money can do with “Independent Investigations” a prime example being the UNSG’s POE of Mr. Marzuki Darusman, Ms. Yasmin Sooka and Mr. Steven Ratner.

                      Re “Incidentally, here are two nonsensical accusations that you threw in for theater. Else can you explain, explicitly”

                      Certainly I can explain explicitly.

                      I asked you just ONE question based on an extract from the UNSG’s POE report. Here it is again.

                      “they forced thousands of civilians, often under threat of death, to remain in areas under their control during the last stages of the war and enforced this control by killing persons who attempted to leave that area” (POE report item 237)

                      The above text Documents
                      1. The Presence of Civilians (thousands)
                      2. Civilians held against their will (threat of death).
                      3. Escaping civilians were killed (executing the threat)
                      4. PRESENCE of the killers amongst the Civilians.

                      Do you agree?

                      That was my question.

                      If you say NO you would be Lying.
                      If you say YES you are unwittingly agreeing to the following.

                      1. The POE has documented events that are described in the Rome Statute Article 8, War crimes, 2(b)(xxiii) as a Grave War Crime.

                      2. That the POE has subverted International Law by obliterating the above definition when writing their report.

                      3. That the POE has with the sole objective of exonerating the LTTE of the War Crime defined above, has after obliterating the operative law, has replaced it with a non legal Red Cross study (a Red Herring).

                      4. The POE has Exonerated the LTTE of using a Human Shield.

                      5. That the POE is corrupt.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

                      Note

                      Rome Statute Article 8, War crimes, 2(b)(xxiii)

                      Utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations; (page 7)

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                      Dear Off the Cuff,

                      Given your conviction that Sooka’s Report is corrupt would you actively seek and support an impartial investigation into the whole morass, of course including that of Sooka’s report?

                      Is that a difficult question to answer? Is that an unreasonable question to ask? Why is your decision dependent on my verifying whether Sooka’s report is reconcilable or not – do you not have faith in your own finding?!

                      Your keenness, or rather the lack of alternative but to merely go round-and-round the mulberry bush is quite convincing about whether one should include you or not in that herd of sum-bags I had previously mentioned.

                      As for your adulation of “Dear Dr. Narendran Rajasingham”, and given his similar reluctance to be forthright while feigning to hover on the high-grounds, all I can say is, there is much to be said on the wisdom about “birds of a feather”!

                      Kindest regards

                      Kumar R.

                      PS: Incidentally there was an official criticism from SL Government of Sooka’s Report, as reported in Colombo Gazette. Here is what it said:

                      “What is given in the report, as you would realise when you look at it, is inadequate for the purpose of carrying out investigations (of course public reports can’t give out sensitive data as it is important be mindful of the safety of the victims). Another issue is that groups of this nature also need to be mindful of the holistic picture – the welfare of communities, healing, resettlement, psycho-social support, livelihood support etc., which are essential for meaningful reconciliation focused on ensuring non-recurrence,” Government sources said.

                      Do you know why or how they missed your extremely diligent “Eureka” moment? Don’t you think you should pose your questions to them, if you are truly serious?

                      More prudent of course would be to relax the blinders that seems rather too tight!

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                      Dear Kumar R

                      Given your conviction that Sooka’s Report is corrupt would you actively seek and support an impartial investigation into the whole morass, of course including that of Sooka’s report?

                      I made an argument by analysing item 237 of the POE report. You have made many responses but failed to challenge what I have written. That tells a story.

                      You tried just once “Did you not notice the statement that you yourself repeated in highlighted “the Panel believes that these actions did not, in law, amount to the use of human shields.” (yours, August 1, 2015 at 7:17 pm)

                      After I responded with

                      Yes I noticed it and I also noticed that it is not the Law. The Panel quotes the ICRC (Red Cross) Study Rule 97 which is not the Law. The Law is the Rome Statute, Article 8, (b) (xxiii) of the ICC. Have the POE referred to it anywhere? No, they have COMPLETELY BLACKED IT OUT.

                      You have backed out again.
                      .
                      What legal knowledge do you need to understand that?

                      The Rome Statute is the International Law and the International Criminal Court (ICC) is governed by it. That is simply general knowledge. (On 17 July 1998, the international community reached an historic milestone when 120 States adopted the Rome Statute, the legal basis for establishing the permanent International Criminal Court, http://www.icc-cpi.int/en_menus/icc/about%20the%20court/Pages/about%20the%20court.aspx)

                      The UNSG’s POE has NOT CITED the Rome Statute. That is just a simple observation on reading section 237 of POE Report.

                      The UNSG’s POE Cites the Red Cross instead. Again a simple observation.

                      In section 237 of their report, the UNSG’s POE has OBLITERATED International Law. That again is a simple observation as you cannot find any reference to the Rome Statute in 237.
                      .
                      Hence the UNSG’s POE is corrupt. Since Ms Yasmin Sooka is a cosignatory of that report, She is also Corrupt.
                      .
                      It may not be to your licking but it is the Plain Truth.
                      Hence by now it should also be your conviction not just of mine.

                      You need strength of character to face facts.

                      Re “would you actively seek and support an impartial investigation into the whole morass,”

                      Where do you get the impartial investigators?
                      How do you ensure the new “impartial investigators” do not do another Sooka? Where is the framework to punish those who do a Sooka?

                      I wrote the following in my previous comment to you.

                      The First priority therefore is to establish foolproof mechanisms with which independent Investigations can be carried out.

                      This cannot happen unless it is accepted that the UN Secretary General’s Independent Investigation was corrupt.

                      Without the mechanisms in place it’s fruitless to talk about Independent Investigations as we have seen what power, influence and money can do with “Independent Investigations” a prime example being the UNSG’s POE of Mr. Marzuki Darusman, Ms. Yasmin Sooka and Mr. Steven Ratner.

                      First establish the framework to truly deliver Justice, then as I have already stated in my comment on August 2, 2015 at 1:53 am. I will support an investigation.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

                      Re your PS.

                      The govt has missed it, so what?

                      It is not an argument you can use to breakdown mine. Many have tried (including you) but none has succeeded.

                      Since you fear to even respond to the single question I posed on August 1, 2015 at 12:33 am and repeated after your query 4 comments later on August 2, 2015 at 5:50 pm and which even in your 5 th comment you avoid like the plague, who wears blinders will be clear to an outsider.

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                      Dear Off the Cuff,

                      What in the world do you want to know?- I have already very categorically told you I am willing to agree with you on your “proven” fact.

                      Now, given that I am willing to agree that Sooka’s report is faulty as you have proven, if not worse, do you actively support an impartial hearing? DO you have the backbone to answer that?

                      What amazes me is if you have the confidence that you have proven it then why do you need my validation – are you yourself unsure of your own proof?

                      Or, would you still shy away from explicitly confirming your support for an impartial investigation and would rather just continue this pathetic charade that would make even the likes of gutless DJ squirm?!

                      As for the PS, don’t you seriously think that if your claim of the “Eureka moment” has any significance to the case, SL State would have included that in their criticism? Are they so inept, that not only they miserably failed in performing even the minimal due diligence, but they are incapable of identifying, or at least appreciating this lightening-rod issue that you believe you have so brilliantly ascertained?

                      Now that I have agreed with you, would you have the spine and the integrity to explicitly state if you will actively support an independent investigation? Or, are you still intent on rushing up the same old murunga tree, rushing to join who else but that herd of scum-bags?

                      Best regards,

                      Kumar R.

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                      Dear Kumar R,

                      Reference your comment on August 3, 2015 at 6:17 am

                      “What in the world do you want to know?- I have already very categorically told you I am willing to agree with you on your “proven” fact.”

                      Enclosing the word proven within quotes belies what your words say.

                      You have not accepted what I have written and you have not been able to disprove what I have written either. All that you have done is avoid answering the questions directly. If you have the backbone give direct answers to the questions either disagreeing (stating reasons) or agreeing.

                      1. Did Sooka and her POE members Refer to International Law when they wrote section 237?

                      2. Did Sooka and her POE members Obliterate the Rome Statute from 237 by citing an irrelevant and non legal Red Cross Study?

                      3. Was Sooka and her POE members unaware that prosecutions at the ICC is GOVERNED ONLY by the Rome Statute?

                      4. Was Sooka and her POE members unaware that the ONLY Law governing the serious War Crime of Human Shields is, Article 8, (b) (xxiii) of the Rome Statute?

                      Sooka and the POE KNEW the following,

                      that The ICC is a court of last resort.
                      that the ICC only tries those accused of the gravest crimes.
                      that the courts jurisdiction is limited to the most serious crimes.
                      that the jurisdiction extended to those aiding, abetting or otherwise assisting in the commission of a crime.

                      They knew that the Rome Statute had no clause requiring “deliberately moving civilians towards military targets to protect the latter from attacks as is required by the customary definition of that war crime” anywhere within the Rome Statute.

                      They KNEW they had no grounds to exonerate the LTTE by Citing the Rome Statute hence they OBLITERATED it by citing the Red Cross.

                      Exonerating the LTTE had a more sinister aim than clearing the names of the dead. It was to keep those who Aided and Abetted out of the International Criminal Court.

                      My position regarding investigations have always been the same and it was reiterated to you on July 31, 2015 at 6:53 pm, August 2, 2015 at 5:50 pm, August 3, 2015 at 2:19 am,

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                      Dear Off the Cuff,

                      Cna you tell me why you need my validation of your proof? HAs anyone else validated your proof? Are you yourself unsure of your proof?

                      YThe only position you have explicitly stated with regards to impartial investigation is “I have no issue”. That is a cowardly way out rather than a conviction.

                      At least have the nerve, the spine and the integrity to state and defend if you oppose investigation instead of cowardly hiding under shameful show of sham!

                      Incidentally, you are truly a master of “Cut and Paste” as someone else alluded to, I believe in this thread somewhere.

                      Best regards,

                      Kumar R.

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                      Kumar R.

                      “Incidentally, you are truly a master of “Cut and Paste” as someone else alluded to, I believe in this thread somewhere. “

                      You are wrong. He is the noted plagiarist who has mastered the art of copy and paste function, a liar and a racist.

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                      Dear Kumar,

                      You have proved to me that my analysis of the POE Report section 237 poses a formidable problem for the Members of the POE and the separatist amongst the Tamils. I have raised this issue several times on CT and so far it has withstood every counter argument.

                      It may also pose a formidable INTEGRITY issue that may potentially call into question the whole POE Report, jeopardizing any action based on the Report.

                      I thank you for helping me to fine tune my arguments.

                      Since you are still avoiding direct answers there is no purpose of continuing any further but you can join the discussion after I write it as an article and submit it for publication.

                      Hopefully the Tamil intellectuals that argue in support of the POE report, will join in the debate and argue their viewpoint.

                      Regarding your statement “At least have the nerve, the spine and the integrity to state and defend if you oppose investigation instead of cowardly hiding under shameful show of sham!”

                      Please read my comment on August 3, 2015 at 2:19 am, that you have neglected to Read. I did not expect you to be this Foolhardy.

                      “First establish the framework to truly deliver Justice, then as I have already stated in my comment on August 2, 2015 at 1:53 am. I will support an investigation.

                      Boomeranged on you!!!

                      Now it’s your turn to prove that you have the nerve, the spine and the integrity to give DIRECT answers to the pending questions and defend your answers instead of being a coward and hiding under shameful show of sham!

                      Unless you comply, this conversation is at an End.

                      BTW When I notice a person writing about “Cut and Paste” I know that they have run out of arguments.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                      Dear Off the Cuff,

                      “You have proved to me that my analysis of the POE Report section 237 poses a formidable problem for the Members of the POE” – the implication is that you yourself wasn’t convinced about what you considered proof. Good to know!

                      “Thank you for helping me to fine tune my arguments” – If I was helpful somehow, you are welcome, although I must confess I am not truly sure which arguments I helped you in.

                      “August 2, 2015 at 1:53 am. I will support an investigation.” Obviously I missed noticing that. I am relieved though that your position is quite in contrast to that of the Sri Lankan state explicitly opposing any external investigation, as repeatedly presented at international forums by high-powered officials and academics, including DJ.

                      As for your comments, “Since you are still avoiding direct answers…” and “Now it’s your turn to prove that you have the nerve, the spine and the integrity to give DIRECT answers to the pending questions and defend your answers” – can you tell me what question/s you had. I possibly missed them (aside from your repeated request to “please read and see if you can reconcile.” preemptively qualifying that if I said I could, then I will be lying.)

                      Please give me a brief list of questions that you had, which I had not answered. I will be sure to answer them – just a short listing of your questions you refer to above.

                      In any case: here is a short list of questions I have asked:
                      – Would you have any suggestions for forming a panel that is beyond LTTE’s reach? (I suggested a consortium of academics from reputed institutions)
                      – Was Bagwathi’s team also corrupt, bribed by LTTE. Would you know why that team failed to complete the investigation?
                      – Why did you need my validation of your proof (this time without quotes) – are you yourself unsure of your own proof? Why?
                      – Are the SL state officials so inept that they would first, fail to do due-diligence in approving the panel, and next, not even notice the glaring blunder that you feel you so effortlessly discovered?

                      I look forward to your article.

                      Best regards,

                      Kumar R.

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            Dear Dr. RN,

            You have read my comment addressed to Ms Yasmin Sooka and I interpret your silence, as an agreement with the argument placed before CT. You can of course disagree by giving reasons.

            The evidence against the POE is very clear and unassailable because it is of the POE’s own making.

            The POE has circumvented the Rome Statute of the ICC by very devious means in order to give a CLEAN bill of health to the LTTE regarding the Grave War Crime of using a Human Shield.

            Ms Yasmin Sooka wrote an article entitled “The empty findings of Sri Lanka’s Military Court of Inquiry” to GroundViews on 11 April 2013
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            (http://groundviews.org/2013/04/11/the-empty-findings-of-sri-lankas-military-court-of-inquiry/#comment-1002155040)
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            I addressed two comments to her. The first questioned the POE report and the second about selective justice.

            She has been unable to provide an explanation for over two years and obviously her INTEGRITY and ability to be impartial no longer exist.

            I have started analysing ITJP’s report, at http://white-flags.org because in the new ITJP report Sooka refers to it.

            Some very interesting issues have shown up and I will address a comment to you that will address what you say here ” However, this does not negate the need for an inquiry. These accusations must be met headhead on, investigated and answered. ”

            Also though you say “The Yahapalanaya government has to respond to the allegations regarding 2015, expediously. It has to seek information from Yasmin Sooka and her team and, investgate them diligently” Sooka has shut that door preemptively.

            Kind Regards,
            OTC

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              Dear OTC,

              Thanks.

              I have avoided to the extent possible (for me) commenting on violations of Geneva conventions and human rights during the war.

              I have also not paid much attention to what is evolving in the international front, except to question the nature of Balachandran’s killing and the veracity of the evidence provided by at least most witnesses( also asylum seekers) from the UK who allege torture, because they have reasons to lie, as many thousands have done before them. I have reasons to be skeptical because of what I remember from the past.

              Both sides, the GOSL armed forces and the LTTE are both guilty, though the extent and degree, have to be established. The LTTE being defeated and destroyed, does not absolve it of responsibilities as to what it did and it provoked the armed forces to do. The armed forces too are responsible for what they did and their reactions to provocations. Both killed prisoners in their custody. The LTTE also deliberately murdered its injured cadres who were loaded into a bus, under false pretenses.

              The government and the persons in it who made political directions and gave direct field instructions, also bear responsibility, if they had directed the armed forces to contravene international law.

              There are also many instances of the soldiers and LTTE cadres going out of their way to help civilians.

              I also, feel that wars are bestial (with apologies to other members of the Animal Kingdom) in essence. We create killing machines and expect them to conform to rules that are untenable in conditions of war. Those who are in the war field to fight on our behalf, can only kill another human, if they suppress the humanity and humaneness within them. It is their lives or their opponent’s. We want to fight humane wars, but this is a contradiction in terms of the fact that we want the opponent killed and psychologically subdued.

              I remember the story of a Turkish mother bidding farewell to her soldier son going to the Russian front to participate in a war. She tells her son to kill as many Russians as possible. The son in return asks her, what if he is killed. The mother is aghast and screams, ” Why should they?”. The underlying truth, applies to all wars, whether in Sri Lanka or elsewhere.

              Post war violations of human rights and other conventions relating to torture, rape, etc., of those in the military, police or judicial custody, is a different matter altogether.

              I feel these issues must be investigated with an open mind objectively. As citizens, irrespective of our community affiliations. we have to be concerned and have the right to know what really happened and is happening, to understand what transpired and as lessons for the future.

              My advise would be to conduct whatever inquiries that are necessary intensively, objectively and in a non-partisan manner. It should welcome the UNHCR report and conduct its own inquiries into their veracity and hand over the subject to our legal system to deal with. Representatives of the UNHCR should be invited to participate as observers.

              Those who were registered at the various IDP camps soon after the last war, should be traced and their story recorded. They have a story to tell. I advised many in the IDP camps I visited to write down their story in exercise books immediately as details will be blurred and distorted with the passage of time. In fact I had called upon the academic community, in an article/comment, to take this on as a project. I am sure the government of the day, would not have permitted it.

              Dr.RN

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                Dear Dr RN,

                I have only examined section 237 of the POE report and it’s compliance with International Law. The POE’s reference to the ICRC study confused me for a long time until I read the Actual International Law, the Rome Statute of the ICC.
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                (http://www.icc-cpi.int/iccdocs/PIDS/publications/RomeStatutEng.pdf)
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                The International Law on Human Shields is as follows.

                Rome Statute, Article 8, War crimes, (b),
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                (xxiii) Utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations;
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                Please note that International Law is the Rome Statute. The Red Cross study is not the Law.

                This is section 237 of the POE report. The full report is available at the UN web site. It is copy protected hence you will have to retype if you want to quote.

                237. Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions: Credible allegations point to a violation of Common Article 3’s ban on the taking of hostages insofar as they forced thousands of civilians, often under threat of death, to remain in areas under their control during the last stages of the war and enforced this control by killing persons who attempted to leave that area. (With respect to the credible allegations of the LTTE’s refusal to allow civilians to leave the combat zone, the Panel believes that these actions did not, in law, amount to the use of human shields insofar as it did not find credible evidence of the LTTE deliberately moving civilians towards military targets to protect the latter from attacks as is required by the customary definition of that war crime (Rule 97, ICRC Study)

                Compare it with the Rome Statute, for your own information even if you want to stay away from discussing it on CT. The implications are not pretty.

                I believe you have already realised what I have been writing about but if you want to stay away, I will respect your wish.

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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              OTC,

              You have made good arguments with evidence for the prosecution but the defense arguments have been this far, weak.

              The UNHRC report has to deliver the judgment, though it will also be contested on the basis of emotions rather than reasons.

              Everyone will keep to his/her own corner and argue on, if the UNHRC report does not confirm their perceptions or the facts as they know them or chose to learn them. The arguments will continue until Kingdom come, and those of us living now are long gone.

              Rest your case until judgment from the UNHRC or the determiner of our time on earth, comes.

              Dr.RN

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                Dear Dr RN,

                Thank you. I was not trying to defend the criminals or object to the need of an Investigation, be it domestic or International.My interest was in ensuring that any investigation remains impartial and conform to Principles of Justice.

                Ms Yasmin Sooka and her POE colleagues has shown that they are unsuitable to participate in any manner and in any capacity connected with an investigation. Their biased report should not form the basis of any process as it will contaminate it and should be thrown out. Justice demands it. They should be investigated by the UNSG’s office for bringing the UNSG’s office to ridicule and disrepute.

                As I said before I have been studying the ITJP report that is carried by White-Flags.org web site (which I thought was a TGTE website until I saw the reference made by Ms Sooka to it in her New Report).

                Here are a few things that I have noted.

                quote The surrender of the political leaders of the LTTE – Pulidevan and Nadesan – is commonly known as “the white flag incident”. It involved approximately twelve people surrendering, including the leaders.

                0646: Kohona has been informed that Pulidevan and Nadesan are on their way to the bridge and replies by SMS: “That is very good news. Now let us rebuild the country and the shattered lives of all our people.”

                0656-0700: Basil phones Nehru from his mobile phone. He tells Nehru to ask Nadesan why some LTTE are firing at the army.
                Unquote

                Thus according to Sooka’s ITJP, the surrender has occurred in daylight.
                .
                White-flags.org carries the following satellite view of Vellamullivaikkal.
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                http://white-flags.org/assets/img/010.jpg
                They also carry this photograph of the Wadduvakal Bridge. http://white-flags.org/assets/img/012.jpg
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                This is Vellamullivaikal as seen on Google today.
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                https://www.google.com/maps/place/Vellamullivaikal,+Sri+Lanka/@9.3028632,80.7855579,1585m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x3afeb319d2f88a8d:0x17523fed3c1949a1!5m1!1e4!6m1!1e1
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                There is a junction where the A35 meets several other roads on the southern side of the bridge. This is the most likely place for the surrender to have taken place. It is 3 km from Pulidevan’s bunker to this junction. The road does not have any trees or obstructions and hence on a sunny day, a Satellite will have a very clear view from start to finish. The view provided can be zoomed much more.
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                https://www.google.com/maps/place/Vellamullivaikal,+Sri+Lanka/@9.287375,80.8026336,99m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x3afeb319d2f88a8d:0x17523fed3c1949a1
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                Google Earth does not provide Real time data but Real time data is available to Western Govts and India who have their own Satellites.
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                This is Chatham Street, Lotus Rd, York Street Junction in Colombo. You can easily identify buses, Trucks, Vans and cars (the view can be zoomed further).
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                https://www.google.com/maps/place/Chatham+St,+Colombo,+Sri+Lanka/@6.9343481,79.8447637,100m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x3ae2592431e92cf7:0x9f9525402fc84319!5m1!1e4
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                This is New York. Note that the vehicles are clearly identifiable. Google, in it’s free service, provides a HIGHER resolution for USA than for Lanka (perhaps it is not released publicly due to govt intervention (at one time Google blocked certain areas which were blured). But the paid service has still higher resolution. The view of New York was given for the purpose of comparison.
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                https://www.google.com/maps/place/New+York,+NY,+USA/@40.7557567,-73.9901215,38m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c24fa5d33f083b:0xc80b8f06e177fe62!5m1!1e4!6m1!1e1
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                This is Oxford Circus, London where people and vehicles are easily distinguished.
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                https://www.google.com/maps/place/Oxford+Circus/@51.5153387,-0.1422612,31m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x48761ad54dd31e05:0xeea62fbf4fb6eb96!5m1!1e4!6m1!1e1
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                The detail available to Western govts and India is much higher than Google’s free service and is in real time. The bird in the sky witnessed the War and the alleged White Flag Surrender. The impending surrender was well publicised. Thus western govts and India knew about it.

                Quote, From the 48 hours of communications documented here it is clear the LTTE informed a wide range of officials that they were about to surrender unquote

                Satellite imagery of the incident should be available. However so far nothing of that nature has appeared. What is also strange is the absence of any photographs of the surrender from where it commenced in Pulidevan’s Bunker to where it ended, 3 km away, though we have “witnesses”. Wouldn’t the LTTE ensure that this “surrender with white flags” was recorded video graphically or at least photographically when everything else was so recorded?

                I have no doubt that Ramesh and Isaipriya was in custody when they met with their deaths. Undoubtedly killings have occurred that warrant investigation. That is within Local Jurisdiction not International Jurisdiction.

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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                  Off the boat, You seem to enjoy undermining evidence of war crimes. That is your sole purpose. And there is been 6 years for a domestic investigation that hasn’t been forth coming. given Sri Lanka’s history do you believe an ‘impartial process’ can come from within Sri Lanka? Sooka and Callum may not be part of the process but an independent process is infinitely more likely from outside Sri Lanka.

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                    Alex, Why are you so worried about my questions, if you have nothing to hide?

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                    alex

                    Calm down.

                    UN is sitting on a huge pile of evidence so are Hindia, US, …… Russia, …China, etc

                    War crimes didn’t happen only in May 2009. The history of war crimes actually started on 5th Jan 1971.

                    If you are really interested in war crimes and crime against humanity revisit last 45 years of history.

                    The common denominator of all war crimes is that of the perpetual existence of the cruel state and its brutal armed forces. It is the pattern of behaviour of the state and armed forces which is called into question.

                    However war crime denial by the state gives excuse for the other war criminals (JVP, LTTE, IPKF, other armed groups, etc) to escape unscathed.

                    OTC tries his very best to tire you down by his own lies, copy paste materials which do not relate to the subject in question, tedious typing, … etc.

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                      Hello Tamil in a Vedda Mask,

                      You always need a Human Shield to shoot your puny gun.

                      Yesterday you wisecracked “Of course you wouldn’t find any corpses two years after the crime scene had been wiped clean behind closed doors”

                      Pointing out your foolishness I said No crime scene can be wiped clean the way you foolishly insinuate. Certainly not the human remains of 140,000 dead!!!

                      I further said,

                      140,000 Dead!
                      How many injured by war?

                      At 1:1, 140,000
                      At 1:2, 280,000
                      At 1:3, 420,000

                      The dead by war, the dead by natural causes, the wounded by war and the uninjured, together with natural increase will add up to a record Tamil population explosion.

                      You may have realised your folly as you have failed to maintain your position.

                      That is the Stupidity of Knee Jerk Wise Cracking and wisecracking is what you do.

                      Vichara wrote the following

                      Quote
                      It should be mentioned that immediately after the end of the war Banki Moon with a retinue including Matthew Russell Lee of Inner City Press made an flew over by helicopters over the so called massacre site. The photographs taken in these flights were examined by the Study group of the American Association for Advancement of Science which had been commission by the Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch of USA to look for “grave sites.They did not find any new grave sites.
                      Unquote

                      Thus photographic evidence of the Crime Scene immediately following
                      the alleged massacre exists. And both AI and HRW has had them analyzed by the American Association for Advancement of Science.

                      Where were the 140,000 mutilated bodies hidden, before the UNSG’s party that included Journalists from Times of London and Inner City Press overflew it? Hidden under a Palmyra Leaf? or a Coconut Shell?

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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      This is Rajasingham reborn?!

      Just a year and a half ago you were adamantly supporting the MR regime and advocating that the Diaspora should refrain from taking any steps to get the allegations against the MR regime investigated or exposed.

      It is guys like you who gave all the cover that the MR regime needed to counter internal and international scrutiny of their misdeeds, and not just continue but to aggressively pursue their rabid atrocities against Tamils – except the bootlicking Tamils of course – that included not just Karuna’s ilk, but those of your persuasion too!

      Here is a litmus test on your culpability – can you candidly and forthrightly detail the circumstances under which you were given the audience with MR – that gave you limitless ecstasy until about a year ago?

      AS the old saying goes, with friends like you Tamils don’t need DJ and other extremist!

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        Kumar R
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    Unfortunately the mind-set of Majority Singhalese made to think by the politicians who capitalise ”Racism” as vote bank from SWRD Banadaranyake to M Rajpakse that this country belongs to Singhalese and they are above law.
    It’s unfortunate again with this mentality the soldiers went to war with LTTE and breech all norms human rights, let it be rape, killing, torture or illegal detention.

    After the war, they turned the attention towards Muslims with the blessing of BBS and the Sinhala only supremacist talks of terror monk Gnanasara was the result of Aluthgam killings and Beruwela carnage. That even went to the extend of world renowned Buddhist Terrorist WIRASTHU ( Buddhist Bin Laden) to shake hands with Gnanasara local terrorist in our own country. BBS even signed many MoU’s with Burmese 969 ( Buddhist ISIS) and the previous regime secretly supported the new development thinking the Singhalese masses support such race related politics.

    We all know the results!!!

    It’s only in the hands of fair-minded ”Sri Lankans” to eliminate such forces (BBS, Rajapakse) by power of vote will effectively halt the direct involvement of UN to dictate terms how the war crime probe to be carried on instead of a fair local mechanism to deal with the problem!!!

    That, of course, will have a huge impact in our economy!!!!

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    This comment board tells you the problem with Sri Lanka. Here is a report of on-going state violence and people chose to shoot the messenger. This needs to be investigated and those responsible sent to jail. Or it will be investigated by the International Community. The current government is now implicated in crimes and has to act to not be involved in the international judicial process.

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      Dear Alex,

      It is an UNFINISHED report.
      What was the hurry to release it in an unfinished state?

      Is Ms Yasmin Sooka in the Pay of the TGTE?

      CT has been flooded by the TGTE with a deluge of articles in July. July 11 (Usha), 12 (Brian), 15 (Usha), 23 (Rudra), 26 (Rudra) . Were they preparing the ground for Ms Yasmin Sooka to release an UNFINISHED report?

      The reason may be seen here
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      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/new-report-exposes-systematic-persecution-of-tamils-in-sri-lanka-through-torture-rape-illegal-detention-and-killings/comment-page-1/#comment-1865208
      .
      Kind Regards,
      OTC

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        Yes, again .. look for all the little signs of ‘conspiracy’ instead of actually pursuing those who ran the white vans .. why can’t you call for the justice and accountability of the people who ran the white vans?

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          Re ” look for all the little signs of ‘conspiracy’”

          They are not little signs Alex. They stand out a Mile. The problem is you are too blind to see.

          Ms Aysmin Sooka has sold her soul to the TGTE

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            You keep saying Ms Sooka has been bribed – you can prove that right? Or is it the little voices in your head again. Everyone can’t be wrong – the UN, Sooka, HRW, Amnesty, ICG, UK, US, EU .. everyone wrong are they? Or are the Tamils so rich they bribed them all …hmmm

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              Dear Alex,

              I have argued that Ms Yasmin Sooka has SUBVERTED INTERNATIONAL LAW in order to EXONERATE the LTTE.

              The relevant ICC law has been quoted and compared with item 237 of the POE report that she is a signatory of.

              It PROVES beyond any reasonable doubt that the POE has Subverted the Rome Statute.

              For anyone to do that an INCENTIVE is required.
              It can be Financial, Material or as Candidly points out above Ideological.

              Remember what I have written PROVES the POE’s Guilt it is not Reasonable Doubt any more.

              Kind Regards,
              OTC

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                Or alternatively, Sooka, and others who have written similar reports on Sri Lanka (big list by the way) are all subverting International Law. And its genius like you have figured it out. Or you and Gotabaya have been smoking too much of the crazy grass and think that there were ‘zero civilian casualties’, there are no ‘white vans’ and so on. I wonder who is likely to be right? The Sinhala nationalist nutters or the international NGOs.
                I note the word ‘probably’ in your rant linking the NGOs to Tamil NGO actors. Is that your proof – the basis of your world class crazy rants. Hilarious if you weren’t so sad.

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                  You see Alex you are again not making any argument.
                  Proof that you are powerless to challenge what I wrote.

                  You are making crazy rants because you cant do anything else.

                  Argue your case and prove that I am wrong

                  You won’t be able to do it and you will go ballistic again.

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                  There is no other ALTERNATIVE other than what has already been mentioned Financial, Material or Ideological

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                    You have yet to provide any evidence of ‘financial’ or ‘idealogical’ material. You rely on conjecture, much like the rest of Sri Lanka’s polity. Inane, that you think pasting in the same thing over and over again is evidence of anything but your own incapacity to listen to what the world is telling you.

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                      Re “You have yet to provide any evidence”

                      You are yet to contest the evidence already presented on July 28, 2015 at 5:07 pm. Ha ha haa, Lost your way?

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                    Its quite simple Off-the-boat. We have eminent international experts on the one hand and on the other we have a die hard Sinhala nationalist internet troll. The troll finds abstract extracts, which he claims proves beyond doubt that ‘experts are charlatans’. Unfortunately for him / her, those clauses do no such thing and the only other people to celebrate are other Sinhala nationalists, cheering him/her on.

                    This is futile aside from the entertainment value of seeing what straws the Sinhala nationalists are clinging onto now. The whole world now discusses the war criminals in Sri Lanka and what we are going to do about them .. thats where everyone else is, whilst in Sri Lanka denial is still the name of the game.

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    we should take Yasmin Sooka’s report with a grain of salt. The research appears to be from her own report published in March 2014 (https://barhumanrights.org.uk/sites/default/files/documents/news/an_unfinihsed_war._torture_and_sexual_violence_in_sri_lanka_2009-2014_0.pd) which got nowhere as none of her accusations were substantiated. In that report all the torture, rapes, sexual abuse and abductions between the period 2009-2014 emanate from her interviews with 40 witnesses, all claiming political asylum in UK and it goes without saying that these asylum seekers would tell the most outrageous stories to assist their cases. Some of the stories could be true, but how can one tell. Also remember that in the period between 2009 and 2014 some of these atrocities were indeed happening but they were perpetrated on all of the Rajapakse foes, irrespective of them being Tamil, Sinhalese, Muslim or other.

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      Well Sylvia, in most countries, one starts with credible allegations, which is what we have here, and we then investigate. Of course Sri Lanka isn’t most countries, it is a failing state accused of mass atrocities against part of the island’s population. Thus, the investigation will likely need a substantial international component to ensure that the allegations are investigated properly and those found guilty are brought to account.

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        Dear Alex,

        What are the credible allegations?

        The CH4 Video that Prof Philippe Alston “Authenticated” using Charlatans whose “expert” opinion was rejected by the Canadian BRAIDWOOD COMMISSION?

        Mr. Grant Fredericks is a proven Charlatan.

        Here are Extracts from the BRAIDWOOD COMMISSION report on the death of Robert Dziekanski at the Vancouver International Airport, Canada

        Commissioner states

        I am not prepared to rely on Mr. Fredericks’ analysis for two reasons:
        His verification methodology was flawed

        while I accept that his measurement of the fixed object (the counter) showed a decrease in size as the camera zoomed out, he could make no comparable measurement of the movable object (Mr. Dziekanski’s jacket), because he was not able to measure the entire length of the jacket, as it extended below the level of the counter. I accept the opinions of Mr. Hird-Rutter and Mr. McInnis on this issue.

        He has no special expertise in determining steps from shoulder movements

        without the verification referred to above, Mr. Fredericks’ opinion of three distinct steps forward is based entirely on his repetitive viewing of the three-second segment of the Pritchard video and his interpretation of Mr. Dziekanski’s changing shoulder movements. I am not persuaded that his expertise as a forensic video analyst extends to this type of human body movement. In the absence of such expertise, his opinion deserves no greater weight than the opinion of any other careful observer. I have watched this segment of the Pritchard video many dozens of times, and I have been unable to detect the three methodical step movements Mr. Fredericks described. Even if I am wrong and Mr. Dziekanski did take three distinct steps forward, Mr. Fredericks’ opinion is of questionable significance, since he repeatedly refused to estimate distance, even a distance as small as one inch.

        Mr. Hird-Rutter was retained to analyze the methodologies used by Mr. Fredericks

        When he measured the changes in length of Mr. Dziekanski’s coat and the counter over the three-second segment in order to determine whether Mr. Dziekanski moved forward. His ultimate opinion is set out at page 11 of his report: The methodologies that were used in Mr. Fredericks’ report do not follow the rigours of the Science of Photogrammetry and it would be wrong to use them to determine the movement of Mr. Dziekanski either forwards or backwards.

        Mr. McInnis said that one cannot see the bottom of Mr. Dziekanski’s jacket in the images, and for that reason Mr. Fredericks amended his report to say that he measured the distance between the top of the collar and the top of the counter. The bottom point is totally meaningless for any photogrammetric analysis, because it is unrelated to Mr. Dziekanski. He concluded that Mr. Fredericks’ opinion (that Mr. Dziekanski moved toward the officers) is not technically supportable because of measurement errors and the failure to use two measurement points on Mr. Dziekanski’s jacket. Further, since Mr. Dziekanski is oscillating up and down, as well as side to side, Mr. Fredericks should have conducted his measurements on two images where the vertical positioning is identical, at the same point on the motion.

        The full report is accessible at the link, please verify. http://www.scribd.com/doc/33243133/Braidwood-Inquiry-Full-Report#page=396

        The other person used by Alston is a perjurer
        Here you can see him stammering under cross examination.

        Dr. Daniel Spitz committed perjury in US courts.

        Here are the videos of his cross examination

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Oy76_nICc&NR=1

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpL56wS_qZo

        Kind Regards
        OTC

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          There are a number of reports that all point to same thing.

          Channel 4 is but one. The UN has filed its report. There is the document today from the ITJP. There are reports from HRW, ICG and Amnesty. There are reports by the US and UK diplomatic missions that make it into the Sri Lanka annual review.

          There is now testimony by hundreds of victims.

          The question is what are the SInhala nationalist nutters still trying to pretend nothing happened. Do you not see that you all just sound like mad people now? Conspiracy nuts talking about an entity that no longer exists bribing eminent persons around the world.

          Anyway it doesn’t matter. Fate is out of the Sinhala nutters hands now … Sri Lanka is going to enjoy an international process, like it or not.

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              What has any of those got to do with the UNSG’s POE report?

              My comment is based on the POE report item 237 and nothing else. Nothing else matters other than the POE report.

              It is in this POE report item 237 that Mr. Darusman, Ms. Yasmin Sooka and Mr. Steven Ratner Exonerates the LTTE of a grave war crime (using a Human Shield which all of us know that they did).

              That was done by subverting the Rome Statute. Proof exists they are not allegations.

              You have written a deluge of comments though not even one challenges my argument.

              Address the isuue without running around like a headless chicken

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            alex

            Aren’t you going to thank the noted plagiarist, liar, and the shameless racist for keeping his/her/its typing brief?

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        Dear Alex,
        When you start calling people names, I begin to think you’ve run out of points to argue your case. I have no truck with the Sinhalese nor the Tamils, but I am for justice. there were indeed murder, torture, disappearance etc. but they were perpetrated in equal measure on Tamils, Sinhalese, Muslims and whoever stood in the way of the corruption by the Rajapakse regime. You are counting on the several adverse reports to substantiate your arguments not realising that all of them originated from the flawed Channel 4 documentary and the Darusman Report to which Ms.Sooka, with an axe to grind was the main contributor. The Channel 4 video allegedly taken with a mobile phone camera that was able to pan with u8ltra sharp picture and sound quality. I did not think our mobile phones were that far advanced. Ms.Sooka’s entire report is obsessed with the Asylum Seekers in UK dismissing their natural instincts to exaggerate or fabricate incidents of torture etc. to qualify for asylum. Incidentally, most of the 40 or so interviewees of Ms.Sooka failed their asylum application.

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          Sylvia Haik

          “there were indeed murder, torture, disappearance etc. but they were perpetrated in equal measure on Tamils, Sinhalese, Muslims and whoever stood in the way of the corruption by the Rajapakse regime.”

          Could you give us the break down of number of people killed in each of the respective community and the circumstances under which they were murdered, tortured and made to disappear?

          Do you believe all these human rights violations and/or war crimes were committed only by Rajapakse regime?

          ” You are counting on the several adverse reports to substantiate your arguments not realising that all of them originated from the flawed Channel 4 documentary and the Darusman Report to which Ms.Sooka, with an axe to grind was the main contributor.”

          Why were Channel 4 documentary and Darusman Report flawed and who discredit those reports?

          By the way there was no such report named Darusman Report. However there was an UN report by the title

          “Report of the Secretary-General’s Panel of Experts on Accountability in Sri Lanka”

          published in 2011.

          Have you taken trouble to read, digest and understand the entire report? Irrespective of “flawed” claim by C4 documentary and the report by UN experts, what do you think? Did the state commit war crimes and crime against humanity?

          “The Channel 4 video allegedly taken with a mobile phone camera that was able to pan with u8ltra sharp picture and sound quality.”

          I am sorry are you an expert on Image Quality in Camera Phones?

          “Ms.Sooka’s entire report is obsessed with the Asylum Seekers in UK dismissing their natural instincts to exaggerate or fabricate incidents of torture etc.”

          Are you relating your personal experience to support your typing?

          “Incidentally, most of the 40 or so interviewees of Ms.Sooka failed their asylum application.”

          How about the rest of the interviewees?

          Were they sober and truthful?

          Have you ever met any of the victims who suffered and survived in the hands of Sri Lankan armed forces from 5th April 1971 to date?

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            Hello Tamil in a Vedda Mask,

            You ask Sylvia Haik “Have you taken trouble to read, digest and understand the entire report?”

            It appears you have read, digested and Understood the entire report and hence the following single item would pose no problems.

            237. Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions: Credible allegations point to a violation of Common Article 3’s ban on the taking of hostages insofar as they forced thousands of civilians, often under threat of death, to remain in areas under their control during the last stages of the war and enforced this control by killing persons who attempted to leave that area. (With respect to the credible allegations of the LTTE’s refusal to allow civilians to leave the combat zone, the Panel believes that these actions did not, in law, amount to the use of human shields insofar as it did not find credible evidence of the LTTE deliberately moving civilians towards military targets to protect the latter from attacks as is required by the customary definition of that war crime (Rule 97, ICRC Study)

            The POE uses an ICRC study and is referring to Rule 97 of that study.

            Which is the Legal Institution empowered by the UN?

            Is it the International Criminal Court (ICC) or the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC)?

            If it is the ICRC what is it’s standing within the UN system? Does the ICRC wield authority over the ICC?

            Can you explain why the UNSG’s POE IGNORED the ICC and preferred the ICRC instead?

            International Law

            What is the International Law on war?
            Is it the ICRC study used by the POE or is it the Rome Statute?
            If it is the Rome Statute why is the POE IGNORING it?

            Rome Statute
            .
            http://www.icc-cpi.int/iccdocs/PIDS/publications/RomeStatutEng.pdf
            .
            Article 8

            War crimes

            (b) Other serious violations of the laws and customs applicable in international armed conflict, within the established framework of international law, namely, any of the following acts:

            (xxiii) Utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations;

            Using your Intimate knowledge of the POE report item 237, please discuss the conclusions arrived by the POE and show how it complies with the Law of War as defined by the Rome Statute.

            With reference to the CH4 you also ask Sylvia “am sorry are you an expert on Image Quality in Camera Phones?”

            That question would have been more appropriate if you had asked it either from the POE or Prof Alston.

            Then there was this CH4 video that depicted the PTK hospital, the ONLY hospital within the war zone that was under the direct control of the LTTE without a SINGLE LTTE casualty within it! The CH4 team and the LTTE propaganda machine made a fatal mistake by dressing up ALL the LTTE combatants in Civilian Clothes before filming it.

            Sylvia is apparently making her observations as a lay person. Differentiating between a grainy picture and a well defined picture does not need Professional expertise when the difference is obvious.

            However, Mr. Grant Fredericks was used as an expert by UN Special Rapporteur Prof Philippe Alston, for “authenticating” the CH4 video.

            Mr. Fredericks was used by the Police (RCMP) in Canada in an attempted cover up of the death of Robert Dziekanski at the Vancouver International Airport, Canada on October 14, 2007.

            The death was investigated by the BRAIDWOOD COMMISSION which held public hearings. Here is an extract from that report.

            Commissioner stated

            I am not prepared to rely on Mr. Fredericks’ analysis for two reasons:


            His verification methodology was flawed.
            .
            He has no special expertise
            in determining steps from shoulder movements.

            The full report is available here.

            http://www.scribd.com/doc/33243133/Braidwood-Inquiry-Full-Report#page=396

            Prof Alston also used Dr. Daniel Spitz as an expert.
            Dr Spitz failed to find a bullet embedded in the skull of a man killed execution style, shot in the head from behind at close range. The videos below will show Dr Spitz’s poor performance under cross examination by defense counsel.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Oy76_nICc&NR=1
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpL56wS_qZo

            You questioned Sylvia, did you also question the POE, the UN Special Rapporteur Prof Philippe Alston or any of his so called experts?

            If not why? Were you overawed by their reputations?

            Kind Regards,
            OTC

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          Sylvia,

          I don’t have a lot of time to go through the documents in its entirety, but I saw that it includes a number of witnesses who themselves participated in white van abductions. How would you dismiss all of that as exaggerated tales of asylum seekers?

          The fact is that the world needs more people like Ms. Sooka who will steadfastly pursue such crimes till justice for the victims is achieved, even as the rest of the world, including the UN, gets distracted by many other hot spots in the world.

          As I have mentioned elsewhere in his thread, if some of the victims are exaggerating, that act has to be brought out in an independent investigation, but their witness testimonies cannot be dismissed out of hand.

          I remember a couple of postings by you elsewhere on CT, and I understand that you have no reason to be racist; but by careless comments, you may unwittingly give ammunition to racists. I hope you will be mindful of that.
          Thanks.

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          Sylvia.

          Error 1: the name calling was started by your Sinhala nationalist cohorts on this site. I suppose the attack on my on that front deals with any questions of your ‘impartiality’

          Error 2: The only sources challenging the credibility of the UN report, Channel 4 and the mounting evidence, are the Sri Lankan nationalists. We know this because news sources like CNN, BBC and Al Jazeera cite those reports as fact. Only little ole Sri Lanka says they are all fabrications.

          Error 3: By your argument there are no credible asylum seekers in the world, as everyone would simply fabricate scars to get into the UK. The fact that these testimonies resonate with witness statements from the region by the ICRC, UN and other NGOs is what – coincidence?

          If you are impartial don’t you think that an investigation is a good idea? All of this appears to be credible evidence by any normal measure.

          I suppose not. Sri Lanka had ‘zero casualties’ right – no need for any investigations. Your impartial pursuit of the facts is quite self evident – See Error 1 above.

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            Alex,

            Please quote a single comment you made here arguing Facts?

            If you cant then you prove Sylvia’s point about you not having facts.

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              Fact – you don’t have a single fact. You have lots of conjecture and interpretation, which anyone outside of your little sinhala nationalist clique thinks is delusional, but you will just keep reiterating it.

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                Idiots say so when they cannot counter the facts.

                But let us assume that you are not an idiot.

                Read POE item 237 and try to reconcile it with the Rome Statute, Article 8, (b) (xxiii) and post your result with your own argument.

                When you successfully present a logical argument confirming what the POE’s says in 237, I will salute your brilliance.

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                  Well I suggest you salute away, as there is nothing to reconcile.

                  The PoE simply says there were ‘credible allegations’. It also says that so far there is no evidence to support ‘deliberate’ taking of human shields. I.e. contrary to popular propaganda by the Sri Lankan state most Tamil civilians were more terrified of the Sinhala army than the LTTE.

                  Their fear turned out to be justified given the massacre that occurred. We now need an international investigation.

                  Are you saluting now?

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            I don’t usually respond to stupid comments lest I give the author an air of importance. But in your case I’ll make an exception.
            We lost our credibility when our stupid Defence Secretary kept insisting there were zero casualties when casualties are inevitable in any conflict – 60,000 in Kashmiri anti-government terrorism, a million or more in Iraq, hundreds of thousands in Chechnya etc. Why would Sri Lanka be different.
            Channel 4 was counting on global viewing of their video to enhance credibility – they removed their usual geo-blocking device that would have blocked other channels from showing it but the more respectable channels such as the BBC only mocked it as unauthenticated propaganda. and the press criticised it. It is probably for the same reason that they failed to screen the film in the UN Dag Hammerskjold Auditorium at the time. The UN quietly decided to disassociate themselves with Channel 4 as, “With a documentary which was questionable, flawed and unsubstantiated”.
            Mr. Gordon Weiss, the former UN spokesman in Sri Lanka, who has been critical of Sri Lanka, was interviewed extensively in the documentary but as it transpires now, cruelly edited. In his book “The Cage” Mr. Gordon Weiss writing about the final days of the conflict wrote:
            1) It remains a credit to many of the frontline Sri Lankan army soldiers that, despite odd cruel exceptions, they so often seem to have made the effort to draw civilians out from the morass of fighting ahead of them in an attempt to save lives.
            2) Troops bravely waded into the lagoon under fire to rescue wounded people threading their way out of the battlefield or to help parents with their children, and give their rations to civilians as they lay in fields exhausted in their first moments of safety afte years of living under the roar and threat of gunfire.
            Gordon Weiss was a hostile witness for the Sri Lankan government however, Channel 4 chose not to show any of his positive comments but focussed entirely on the negative.
            In the film there is allegation of one hospital being shelled 65 times. Our builders must have been geniuses because the hospital had remained intact and there was no evidence of any debris or casualties. Even the patients had managed to remain in their beds and not disrupted.
            A.A.Gill a respected journalist writing for the UK Sunday Times criticised the Channel 4 video and Jon Snow’s commentary as intemperate and partisan, and all held together by assumptions.
            The Sri Lankan government didn’t allow some western journalists – such as Channel 4 – with a proven record of bias towards the LTTE terrorists into the frontline to prevent the truth being twisted. Contrary to Channel 4 claiming it was a witness less war, there were indeed BBC and Al Jazeera present. This is nothing new. During the Iraq War, the US armed forces disliked Al Jazeera correspondents in the frontline and directly attacked the Al Jazeera building in Baghdad killing one of their photographers. Channel 4 correspondents got off lightly as they were only escorted out of Sri Lanka.
            Siri Hewavitharana, an internationally renowned expert in broadcast video systems and the then Executive Director, IPTV Systems, Australia, and former head of Cisco’s Global Broadcast and Digital Video Practice, and former Head of Systems Engineering for Star TV., Hong KONG, said while analysing the Channel 4 video that he came across a video grab that showed a boy’s head blown off and a pool of blood nearby which was clearly a fake. Siri Hewavitharana said he isolated pixel mapping to indicate pixels that have been manipulated using a digital paint brush to show blood. There was, according to him, a whole fake pixel line from the neck up. He said this was further proof that the video was totally fake and that there were many other factors that proved the fake nature of the video. Siri Hewavitharana also said he found it strange the video lacked the cascading effects and motion blur associated with mobile video recording. Also, certain parts of the video showed evidence of optical zoom from a video camera. Mobile phone cameras did not have optical zoom but only digital zoom in the expensive sophisticated models which Sri Lankan soldiers could not have had.

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              Sylvia Haik

              “I don’t usually respond to stupid comments lest I give the author an air of importance.”

              I do.

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              Sylvia, thanks for the detail.
              i) India and Russia, may have committed war crimes in Kashmir and Chechnya. The reason Sri Lanka is under the microscope, is because, line Sierra Leone and Serbia, it has committed war crimes and is too small to escape the UN process;
              ii) I am sure some troops did do their duty and protect Sri Lankan citizens that were Tamils – that shouldn’t be applauded – that is their job, the issue is the lack of prosecution of the large numbers of troops that seem to have committed war-crimes;
              iii) A.A. Gill is a food critic.
              iv) Sri Lanka has obstructed journalists, UN officials and NGOs in the past six years. It has obstructed the investigation in every way it can, and this new government will likely do the same in a different way.
              v) We need an independent international (because domestic processes haven’t worked in 40 years) investigation to see if as you are suggesting all the evidence of war crimes were doctored – seems highly unlikely, but an investigation would help clear it up.

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          Sylvia,

          You say that the Channel 4 documentary is flawed! On what bases you say this? Do you think that the Channel 4 that have successfully exposed many unsavoury events that took place across the world would use unsubstantiated materials to make a documentary? Come on get a grip; your impartiality stinks of dead fish! Why didn’t the MR government challenge Channel 4 at the British courts?

          They paid millions of dollars funding private lobbying companies all over Europe and North America, why didn’t they employ a deformation legal firm to challenge the Channel 4?

          Please Sylvia, you should not take people on these forums for stupid!

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            Burning,

            There was this CH4 video that depicted the PTK hospital, the ONLY hospital within the war zone that was under the direct control of the LTTE, without a SINGLE LTTE casualty within it!

            The CH4 team and the LTTE propaganda machine made a fatal mistake by dressing up ALL the LTTE combatants in Civilian Clothes before filming it.

            The FIRST video that showed an execution was “authenticated” by a Charlatan and a Perjurer

            Mr. Grant Fredericks is a proven Charlatan.

            He was FALSELY presented as an EXPERT by UN Special Rapporteur Prof Philippe Alston

            Mr. Fredericks was used by the Police (RCMP) in Canada in an attempted cover up of the death of Robert Dziekanski at the Vancouver International Airport, Canada on October 14, 2007.

            The death was investigated by the BRAIDWOOD COMMISSION which held public hearings. Here is an extract from that report.

            Commissioner stated

            I am not prepared to rely on Mr. Fredericks’ analysis for two reasons:


            His verification methodology was flawed.
            .
            He has no special expertise
            in determining steps from shoulder movements.

            The full report is available here.

            http://www.scribd.com/doc/33243133/Braidwood-Inquiry-Full-Report#page=396

            Prof Alston also used Dr. Daniel Spitz as an expert.

            Dr Spitz claimed after performing an autopsy that there was no bullet inside the victims head,killed execution style, shot in the head from behind at close range.

            The missing bullet was found inside the skull when another medical examiner performed a second autopsy.

            The videos below will show Dr Spitz’s stuttering to explain the perjury, under cross examination by defense counsel.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Oy76_nICc&NR=1
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpL56wS_qZo

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            Burning Issue, Sylvia, off-the-boat and their fellow sinhala nationalists are the epitome of nationalism gone nuts .. they have become the conspiracy nuts in the room … them and gota have one line … ‘the ltte is everywhere’, and ‘everyone who doesn’t say what we think is paid by the ltte’ – its comic if it weren’t so sad.

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              Alex,

              Address the message. I know it is impossible for you to say what has been written is not true because it is TRUE.

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                What is there to address? You need to grow up and accept that Channel 4 have successfully exposed the gruesome atrocities perpetrated by both sides and the MR regime in particular. The Producer of the documentary has been visiting many countries in person delivering preludes to screening the programme. Thus far, there is no legal challenge from the GOSL past and present. What does this say to you? Where does this leave your so called facts?

                OTC for goodness sake grow up. The present government has pleaded with the UN to delay the report. The President in a speech eluded to the fact that, it is his office that is preventing the culprits from being investigated. How are they doing this? They are not challenging the UN’s charge but by pleading with them. Your smart-ass belligerent approach are running out of milage, and soon you will start eating your own garbage!

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                  Dear Burning,

                  This was your question to Sylvia

                  “You say that the Channel 4 documentary is flawed! On what bases you say this?”

                  Providing the reasons why channel 4 is flawed I said

                  1. The ONLY hospital available to the LTTE in PTK which was shown on CH4 did not have a SINGLE LTTE combatant casualty within or without, while a war was raging.

                  Thus either the LTTE escaped any injury or death or the LTTE casualties were dressed up in Civilian clothes before filming the scene. The CH4 commentary was emphasising on the civilian injured.

                  2. The “EXPERTS” used to authenticate CH4 were exposed as Charlatans who did not have the expertise that were claimed. See the Canadian Braidwood Commission Report for details.

                  3. The Macombe county medical examiner Spitz was another “expert” used to authenticate the CH4. This same Spitz tried to suppress evidence by failing to discover the FATAL bullet that was still inside the victims head. Unfortunately for Spitz the bullet was found during a second autopsy performed by another medical examiner.

                  Links to videos of Spitz’s cross examination and the Braidwood Commission report were provided in my previous comment.

                  Today you are asking “What is there to address?”

                  That is childish to say the least. You should grow up.

                  Have the courage to address the issue that you yourself brought up.

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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                    It is simple isn’t it? You take your findings and hand them over to GOSL; you can even persuade them to let you represent them; special advisor may be! What is stopping you?

                    Ok now; what part of my post do you not understand? Ample time has elapsed since the publication of the documentary; till now, no action whatsoever has been taken by those who have been directly accused. Why?

                    I live in the UK; I know for certain that Channel 4 is a reputable media organisation that performs vital services to mankind by exposing many cruelties around the world and within UK itself. Callum Macrea has challenged anyone who wants discredit their program, can do so in a court of law. It is no good you write incoherent nonsense here hypothetically when you and your ilk have a perfect opportunity to discredit Channel 4 in a court of Law.

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                      Burning Issue

                      Please always remember Louis Heren’s dictum “When a politician tells you something in confidence, always ask yourself Why is this lying bastard lying to me?”

                      Please feel free to change the noun in his dictum appropriately so as to reflect the person who is liar and a plagiarist.

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                      Dear Burning,

                      Yes it is simple. But you avoid the simple things because you cannot contest them.

                      You cannot say that the PTK hospital depicted in CH4 HAS LTTE Casualties in Battle Fatigues because they are not there.

                      You cannot say that Grant Fredricks is an expert because the Canadian Braidwood Commission found him to be a CHARLATAN.

                      You cannot say that Dr. Daniel Spitz is Honest because he was found concealing evidence in a US court of Law.

                      It is this Charlatan and Perjurer who UN’s Alston used in staging a fraudulent Authentication of the First CH4 Video.

                      Those are the SIMPLE things you avoid because you cannot contest them.

                      Your certificate on CH4’s Reputation cannot make those simple facts untrue, because they are TRUE and the PTK hospital CH4 video certifies that TRUTH.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                      Dear Tamil in a Vedda Mask masquerading as a “Native Vedda”

                      Why are you seeking refuge behind Burning Issue? Cowardice?

                      I addressed a comment to you on July 30, 2015 at 5:23 pm and while that is still pending you hide behind Burning Issue and write a comment today (July 31, 2015 at 7:57 pm) engaging in your favourite Past Time of Wisecracking and Slandering.

                      You are by far the leading commentator on CT, Numerically. There is hardly an article here that does not have a two or three line comment from you that are mostly wisecracks and attempts at intimidation but very few well argued factual comments.

                      You tried to use Dr RN on July 29, 2015 at 1:07 pm and he delivered a polite rebuff.

                      What prevents you from exposing the LIES, if any, by writing the TRUTH with supporting references? Afraid that your brand of TRUTH will get exposed like it happened several times in the past? Such as when you claimed that
                      .
                      “Arunachalam had never said anything about Thamil Eelam”
                      .
                      Native Vedda, March 24, 2015 at 7:49 pm https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/govt-releases-425-acres-of-former-hsz-jaffna-lands-to-its-rightful-owners/comment-page-1/#comment-1801365
                      .
                      That of course is a lie.
                      .
                      Here is the FULL SPEECH that Arunachalam delivered in 1922 in which he not only discuss Tamil Eelam but also proposes a Tamil Kingdom by amalgamating Sri Lanka with Tamil India and Tamil colonies with the intention of transforming the Sinhalese into a Minority.
                      .
                      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/two-nation-claim-by-chief-minister-wigneswaran/comment-page-1/#comment-1784824
                      .
                      You see masquerading Tamil, it is you who Lies not me. I prove what I say and you say what you can’t prove. If I make a mistake, point it out with supporting evidence and I will apologise and correct myself.

                      What you write today is being challenged with Facts. A situation that you did not experience before, when you reigned Supreme on CT. Now you feel threatened and I can understand you anger and jealousy at not having your own way on Ct anymore.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                    Off the boat,

                    First, even if there were injured LTTE fighters in the hospital, it remains a hospital, so it is still a war crime. Not sure what your point is?

                    The report you refer to does not call the expert a ‘charlatan’. It simply says the judge preferred the other experts evidence. This happens all the time in lots of reports.

                    Again, conjecture and mis-interpretation – you must work for the Sri Lankan state – no one else would waste so much time trying to spin facts.

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                      Alex you wrote “First, even if there were injured LTTE fighters in the hospital,..”

                      I observe that English causes a lot of confusion for you.

                      First it was the problematic word “Corruption”

                      Now it’s the failure to understand the text.

                      It is the conspicuous absence of injured LTTE fighters that I have written about. But don’t worry too much. Your understanding is unimportant.

                      Those who have the Brains have already understood what it means.

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                    Off the Cuff, Please do not respond to these idiots still clinging on to the proven fabricated Channel 4 documentary as fact. As I’ve said elsewhere, they are only seeking an air of importance by seeing their names in print – it cannot be anything else, as there is overwhelming evidence the Channel 4 documentary was a fake but as the saying goes, There’s none so deaf as those who don’t want to hear.

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                      Thank you Sylvia,

                      I am planning to publicise this by writing an article to CT in the first instance. The discussion has served it’s purpose of checking what the opposition had to say.

                      I read your earlier post. It was well written.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                      Sylvia Haik

                      ” There’s none so deaf as those who don’t want to hear. “

                      You can’t wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.

                      – Navajo proverb.

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            Burning Issue
            I have already posted elsewhere why I believe the Channel 4 documentary was a fake. Unlike the USA, the Communications Regulator is strong in UK and would not have allowed a fabricated documentary to be broadcasted unless they announce at the outset that THE MATERIAL SHOWN WAS NOT AUTHENTICATED. Channel 4 did exactly that and it is for that reason that other channels did not show it. The BBC did mention that they would not endorse it as it was not authenticated. You have presumed that because our government did not challenge it, it must be true. A challenge would have been idiotic as Channel 4 had already said the documentary was not authenticated. People do get away globally making libellous statements by adding the suffix “allegedly” and there’s nothing you can do about it.

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              Sylvia,

              You are talking nonsense! Show this forum as to where exactly channel 4 said that the materials used had not been authenticated. You need to have common sense; do you really think that Cullum Macrea has been going around the world and giving preludes to screening the program that was put together with unauthanticated materials? I think that your head needs examining.

              How can a nation that can allow a foreign media organisation to tarnish its image and accuse key individuals of war crimes and crimes against humanity predicated on unauthanticated materials? Isn’t is a case of willful deformation of a country and elected members of that government? Please grow up!

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                Dear Burning,

                Why are you making Idiotic assertions?

                A simple reference to the Video will prove you wrong. It’s your head that needs examining not Sylvia’s. It’s you who needs to grow up.

                You say “You need to have common sense; do you really think that Cullum Macrea has been going around the world and giving preludes to screening the program that was put together with unauthanticated materials?”

                What is there to THINK? The CH4 says so.

                You also ask Sylvia to “You are talking nonsense! Show this forum as to where exactly channel 4 said that the materials used had not been authenticated”

                Listen to the first CH4 video 2.29 onwards.

                “It is impossible to independently verify the authenticity of the pictures of this blood bath….” says the narrator, Jonathan Miller of CH4
                .
                Produce evidence Burning, instead of the “Common Sense” you don’t possess!
                .
                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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    The Sooka Report and the European Union Report bare the many ‘inhuman aspects’ of the human rights violations visited on tamil civilians during and especially at the end of the war.

    Let us wait for the UNHRC report next month – whether it will surface before the election is not known.
    If it does, it will definitely impact the election.

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      Except that Sooka appears to be a paid employee of the TGTE

      We are waiting for Ms Yasmin Sooka to explain the questions raised here
      .
      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/new-report-exposes-systematic-persecution-of-tamils-in-sri-lanka-through-torture-rape-illegal-detention-and-killings/comment-page-1/#comment-1865208
      .
      I doubt her ability to do so though but time will tell.

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        You of course can prove that the TGTE has paid Ms Sooka? Because otherwise you are just another mad Sinhala nationalist troll ranting on the web.

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          ha haa Alex can you understand English?

          Do you know the meaning of the phrase “appears to be a paid employee of the TGTE”?

          When you read, don’t skip words and get into a spin.

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            ‘Appears to be a paid …’ on the basis of what? That her opinion is not shared by you? That is a giant leap for any mind, even one as small as yours.

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              Because her opinion runs counter to the Rome Statute.

              Please read the comment addressed to Sooka without asking foolish questions

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                The only person who thinks it does is you and then you make the giant leap to assume someones paying her for it .. with no evidence what so ever – you must be a Sri Lankan nationalist … they are all LTTE to you right .. all of them. god forbid someone just has a different view to yours.

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                  Alex

                  Read the POE Report, item 237 and try to reconcile it with the Rome Statute, Article 8, (b) (xxiii) and post your result with your own argument.

                  If you can arrive at a conclusion that supports the POE’s then you will be vindicated.

                  Else all you denials would come to nought

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                    Off the boat, you are like a stuck record. There is nothing to reconcile.

                    The panel says there were ‘credible allegations’ of ‘human shields’. But the evidence thus far doesn’t support ‘deliberate’ hostage taking. I.e. most of the civilians voluntarily fled Sri Lanka’s sinhala army.

                    Not surprising given the torture, rape and murder that awaited them in the concentration camps after-wards, which will also be investigated.

                    You are clutching at straws. Why don’t you simple agree to an investigation but neutral international experts? It doesn’t have to be Sooka, or Fredericks, but there is clearly a need for an investigation? What do you have to hide?

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    One of the fascinating characteristics of these Tamils is a perpetual confidence is their ability to con.

    After many years pretty much everyone knows how the donkey operates. They have never profited from deception yet they just meander!

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      You know given that Sri Lanka controls the web and the material you read, perhaps its you that has been conned by your own sinhala nationalist government?

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        I never had a problem reading and commenting on CT and I am in Sri Lanka. Tamilnet is blocked but it is easy to override the block.

        Please tell which sites are blocked.

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          Are you suggesting that in the recent past Sri Lanka hasn’t blocked sites related to political content? It is fairly common knowledge that a number of sites are blocked, including the Economist (which was also prevented from distributing its newspaper in Sri Lanka). I am sure you can find out about State censorship, if you try a little harder.

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            Asked you a simple question about the sites. what is the difficulty in giving a straight answer?

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    Who ever jumping up and down for this report to establish that Singhalese army is innocent and they never did any killing or rape and totally deny all reports against Singhalese. All the channel4 film and photos which are verified by experts but you do not want to accept. So who killed Tamils in welikada prison and who dogged those prisoners eyes and who killed Tamils in 83. Are you acknowledge those crimes or are they also false and fabricated or some one wrote for diaspora’s money. Very difficult to see jokers like this anywhere in the world , definitely not in Europe.

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      “All the channel4 film and photos which are verified by experts but you do not want to accept”

      Which film is that?
      The one where the PTK Hospital, the ONLY hospital under LTTE control, without a SINGLE LTTE casualty?

      Or

      The Video UN’s Philippe Alston “Authenticated” using Charlatans like Grant Fredericks whose “Expertise” was exposed by the Canadian BRAIDWOOD COMMISSION

      Or

      This guy used by Philippe Alston who starts stammering under cross examination in a US court?

      Dr. Daniel Spitz committed perjury in US courts. Here are the videos of his cross examination

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Oy76_nICc&NR=1
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpL56wS_qZo

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        You know you can shoot down all the experts as much as you like, but they are more credible than some web-troll who casts aspersions and claims that its all just fabricated. What are you Gotabaya’s dumb twin?

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          Of course they are Credible that’s why the Canadian BRAIDWOOD COMMISSION threw his evidence out.

          Mr. Grant Fredericks is a proven Charlatan.

          Here are Extracts from the BRAIDWOOD COMMISSION report on the death of Robert Dziekanski at the Vancouver International Airport, Canada

          Commissioner states

          I am not prepared to rely on Mr. Fredericks’ analysis for two reasons: His verification methodology was flawed

          while I accept that his measurement of the fixed object (the counter) showed a decrease in size as the camera zoomed out, he could make no comparable measurement of the movable object (Mr. Dziekanski’s jacket), because he was not able to measure the entire length of the jacket, as it extended below the level of the counter. I accept the opinions of Mr. Hird-Rutter and Mr. McInnis on this issue.

          He has no special expertise in determining steps from shoulder movements

          without the verification referred to above, Mr. Fredericks’ opinion of three distinct steps forward is based entirely on his repetitive viewing of the three-second segment of the Pritchard video and his interpretation of Mr. Dziekanski’s changing shoulder movements. I am not persuaded that his expertise as a forensic video analyst extends to this type of human body movement. In the absence of such expertise, his opinion deserves no greater weight than the opinion of any other careful observer. I have watched this segment of the Pritchard video many dozens of times, and I have been unable to detect the three methodical step movements Mr. Fredericks described.

          The full report is accessible at the link, please verify.
          .
          http://www.scribd.com/doc/33243133/Braidwood-Inquiry-Full-Report#page=396
          .
          I must thank IDIOTS such as Alex who has allowed me to present much more evidence of Fraud and connivance by UN appointed officials than my initial comment to Ms Yasmin Sooka allowed.

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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            Re-cutting and re pasting the same crap with big letters just makes you look like a three year old throwing a tantrum

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              [Edited out]

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                Off the Cuff

                “[Edited out]”

                Congratulations for keeping your typing brief.

                Thanks.

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                  Hello Tamil in a Vedda Mask,

                  I did not keep it brief Tamil. The Moderators of CT have exercised their Veto which they are entitled to do. Nobody can dictate to them, not even you, even though there is hardly an article on CT that dose not carry a foolish wisecrack from you. It is their web site remember?

                  Though I keep my comments Decent and Civil they are hard hitting when I observe Obfuscation sometimes by LIARS like you who try to win debates by altering historical chronology. Remember the time you claimed that the IPKF was here in Lanka even before, Mother India was impregnated by their Father, Rajiv Ghandi, by dropping Parippu on Jaffna? Examples of your stupidity are too numerous to detail all of them here.

                  Whatever the circumstances are, the Editorial staff at CT are still entitled to do what they do and their Veto has to be respected.

                  If you want to know the length of the comment that was vetoed and why, you should ask the Editorial Staff without gazing foolishly at your Chrystal Balls and pontificating like an Idiot who cannot do anything else but Wisecrack.

                  Why don’t you make a counter argument to the comment I addressed to Ms Yasmin Sooka and display your analytical prowess? Is it beyond your intellect dulled by years of constant wisecracking?

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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                  Hello Tamil in the Vedda Mask,

                  Thank you for your wisdom but I did not keep it brief Tamilian.

                  The Moderators of CT have exercised their Veto which they are entitled to do. Nobody can dictate to them, not even you, even though there is hardly an article on CT that dose not carry a foolish wisecrack from you. It is their web site remember?

                  Though I keep my comments Decent and Civil they are hard hitting when I observe Obfuscation sometimes by LIARS like you who try to win debates by altering historical chronology. Remember the time you claimed that the IPKF was here in Lanka even before, Mother India was impregnated by their Father, Rajiv Ghandi, by dropping Parippu on Jaffna? Examples of your stupidity are too numerous to detail all of them here.

                  Whatever the circumstances are, the Editorial staff at CT are still entitled to do what they do and their Veto has to be respected.

                  If you want to know the length of the comment that was vetoed and why, you should ask the Editorial Staff without gazing foolishly at your Chrystal Balls and pontificating like an Idiot who cannot do anything else but Wisecrack.

                  Why don’t you make a counter argument to the comment I addressed to Ms Yasmin Sooka and display your analytical prowess? Is it beyond your intellect dulled by years of constant wisecracking?

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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              You said earlier that “You know you can shoot down all the experts as much as you like, but they are more credible than some web-troll who casts aspersions and claims that its all just fabricated”

              By the way Alex did you read what the Braidwood Commissioner said?

              Better buy a sack full of Salt to eat your words with.

              You see Alex when I say something I back it up with references unlike you.

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                You are trying to prove that Fredericks is a ‘charlatan’ – where is your proof? All you have are extracts from a commission, where his evidence is clearly being heard because he is an expert on the matter. The commission prefers the evidence of the counter-expert on this point. How does that prove he is a ‘charlatan’? You really have no idea how the judicial process works do you? If this is the height of the Sinhala nationalist intellect, your bosses, Gota and Mahinda are in deep do-do.

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                  Alex, I don’t have to prove anything about Fredericks. The Canadian Justice System has already stated he is a Charlatan.

                  The info has been provided in several places on this web page. Even a link to the full report of the Braidwood Commission was provided.

                  You are deteriorating by the minute. Study the material provided before asking foolish questions

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                    I am afraid your excerpts do not prove he is a ‘charlatan’ – all it proves is that he is an accredited expert of the Canadian Justice System and on that occasion the commission disagreed with him. If anything you have established his credibility as an expert. Well done!

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                      Ha ha haa

                      So now you are calling Justice The Honourable Thomas R. Braidwood, Q.C a Liar?

                      Definition of charlatan (Marriam Webster)

                      noun : a person who falsely pretends to know or be something in order to deceive people

                      Commissioner Braidwood stated

                      I am not prepared to rely on Mr. Fredericks’ analysis for two reasons:

                      His verification methodology was flawed.
                      .
                      He has no special expertise in determining steps from shoulder movements.

                      You need to brush up on your English. It’s at a very low level.

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    It is not possible for any one to come to reliable conclusions about the veracity of this report or about Off the Cuffs charges.After all he has been making these off the cuff claims– that is without evidence or logic– on important topics for very long time.However, anything that allows OFC/Perera to go berserk must be welcomed!

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      Stanislaus,

      Mr. Darusman, Ms. Yasmin Sooka and Mr. Steven Ratner has subverted the Rome Statute law on Human Shields and have exonerated the LTTE of that war crime. But we all know that they used a Human Shield.

      The Proof is in their own report item 237.

      If you think otherwise argue your case without ranting and running around like a Headless Chicken.

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    The criminals are still part of the politico-military establishment and therefore no internal investigations will result in justice. A cover-up is a foregone conclusion. An international investigation is absolutely necessary. Looks like at least some of the criminals are identified. Ms. Sooka should be thanked for her continuing work to expose these crimes by collecting evidence doggedly. Those who seek to deny these crimes outright by blackening the messenger to begin with, are just pathetic racists, and the people know what to do with them.

    If anyone fears any exaggeration by the victims, the proper way to address that is to agree to an international investigation where the GoSL will have the chance to make its case.

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      [Edited out]

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    This news item and the contents of the Report have been entirely blacked out by all the SL mainstream print media including Daily Mirror, Island and Daily News. Even Asian Mirror. Why? Why?

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      [Edited out]

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    After much mediation and prayers I have had divine revelation which strongly supports the views expressed by ‘Off the Cuff’ Vibhushana ‘ and others who hold similar well though clear views:

    The so called 1958 anti-Tamil violence NEVER occurred, it was Tarzie Viitachi’s imaginative account of a non-event and entirely fictitious.

    The 1977 anti-Tamil violence was really an attempt by Sinhala people driven by compassion to save the Tamils from bad weather which for some unknown reason was affecting only Tamil homes and Tamil people.

    The Jaffna library was not burnt it was a case of ‘instantaneous combustion’ -well established scientific fact.

    ‘Black July 1983 did not occur, if it had how come no one was arrested for the so called ant-Tamil pogrom? It was a giant conspiracy by the international media. No Tamil was burnt alive, no Tamil home was destroyed, JR Jayawardene and Athulathmudali were at the forefront extending their hand of friendship to all those Tamils mislead by foreign propaganda.

    No Tamil was killed during 2009, all the bombs were specifically designed to target LTTE members whose DNA had been carefully identified and incorporated into the shells to target only them and spare civilians who did not carry this DNA. Hospitals were not bombed but pelted with flowers. Our soldiers were forced to fire the DNA coded shells with one hand because they were carrying the ‘Humans Right Charter’ with the other

    Tamils who were saved from the ‘clutches’ of the LTTE were all given special accommodation in camps modeled after 5 star hotels. Some of the unfortunate Tamils had to be put up in 4 Star accommodation.

    Ms Yasmin Soosa is a pseudonym under which a well regarded Booker Prize winner is continuing to write fiction.

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      Brilliant!

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      Enlightened One:
      A marvelous piece of satire! Too bad such an excellent — and indeed enlightened– writer should hide under a pseudonym.

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        When writing about the land of ‘white vans’ thats pseudonyms are just common sense.

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      Dear The Enlightened One, Alex, Stanislaus,

      The issue that I have discussed deals with the INTEGRITY of Ms Yasmin Sooka and the other members of the POE Mr. Darusman and Mr. Steven Ratner.

      They have EXONERATED the LTTE of using a Human Shield but any Tamil on the street will know that the LTTE did use a Human Shield.

      In order to exonerate the LTTE, they have SUBVERTED International Law, the Rome Statute of the ICC and the Proof is indelibly written in their own POE report item 237.

      Your God that endowed you with Enlightenment must be senile and suffering from a human affliction such as Dementia.

      Please start praying again and when he apears, advice him of the following.

      1871 Tamil Tamil riots – at Maviththapuram.
      High cast Tamils attacked low casts (dhoby and barber castes)
      .
      1923 September, Tamil Tamil riots – at Sutumalai.
      High cast Tamils attacked Low cast (Paramba) people because Low Casts have no right to employ drummers at a funeral.
      .
      1929 June Tamil Tamil riots – Jaffna
      Because the govt issued an ‘equal seating directive’ to govt grant-aided schools.
      .
      Under this directive ‘low caste’ students were allowed to sit on the bench. Until then they sat either on the floor or outside the classroom. Resultant riots burnt a large number of houses mainly of low caste Tamils. Their children en mass were stopped from attending schools. Repeated petitions were made to the government by ‘high caste’ Vellalars begging to cancel the directive!
      .
      The Vellala Burnt Down FIFTEEN (15) schools that complied with the govt order and other acts of violence and kept their children from attending school.
      .
      1931 Tamil Tamil riots – at Canganai.
      .
      High casts Tamils attacked Low cast Pallars for hiring drummers for a funeral.
      .
      1933 Tamil Tamil riots & Bus strike – Jaffna
      .
      High cast Tamil bus-drivers went on strike in protest against Low cast Tamils attempting to Sit on seats instead of the floor where they sat before.
      .
      A few months later in a caste feud between vellala and non-vellala Catholics, a vellala was killed, and the houses of several Low Cast parayas burnt down, over the issue of a paraya man wearing shoes in church.
      .
      The next day, another feud developed in another village between High Casts and low cast nalavas over the rights of the nalavas to cremate their dead in a vellala cremation place, and a man was shot.
      .
      (from the PhD Thesis of Dr Jane Russell, Communal Politics under the Donoughmore Constitution, 1931 – 1947 available from Thisara Publications, Lanka)
      .
      Up to that point of time there were no Tamil Sinhala riots.
      .
      The first Tamil Sinhala Riot occurred in 1939 after a Racist hate speech was delivered in Nawalapitiya by Tamil Lawyer Politician and founder All Ceylon Tamil Congress, Mr GG Ponnambalam.

      Can you explain why there were Tamil Tamil Riots and no Tamil Sinhala Riots?

      I think the above information would keep your God occupied for some time.

      After he has assimilated all that please revert back and I will give more information that will make him regret his past when he allowed many inhuman things to be done in his name such as confining the turumbas indoors during day and allowed out only during night or why the majority of the Tamil people had to announce their approach on roads by dragging a “kaavolei” a dried Palmyrah leaf behind them or why the Tamil majority had to stay NAKED above the waist or why the majority of women could not wear a Jacket or why they had to sit on the floor of public transport while the privileged sat on seats.

      Oh yes there are a lot more we can tell your senile God to refresh his flagging memory. Maybe he will become better God than he was in the Past,

      Kind Regards,
      OTC

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        Ooo insulting lots of people at once… that’s all grown up. When did Sooka exonerate the LTTE? You need to point me to the part in the report where she does that? Unless of course you have just made it up. Who taught you propaganda – Goebbels? Say enough crap enough times and hope people believe you.

        Where does Sooka exonerate the LTTE? Simple question even for a dumb-ass like you.

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          Dear Alex,

          Oooo looks like Tamil History has taken you by surprise.

          Please note I have provided citations to what I have written. They are not insults they are authentic history.

          Just noticed the best comment that you have made. In fact you have crowned yourself as the CT Joker.

          You have asked “Where does Sooka exonerate the LTTE? Simple question even for a dumb-ass like you”

          Read the POE report

          237. Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions: Credible allegations point to a violation of Common Article 3’s ban on the taking of hostages insofar as they forced thousands of civilians, often under threat of death, to remain in areas under their control during the last stages of the war and enforced this control by killing persons who attempted to leave that area. (With respect to the credible allegations of the LTTE’s refusal to allow civilians to leave the combat zone, the Panel believes that these actions did not, in law, amount to the use of human shields insofar as it did not find credible evidence of the LTTE deliberately moving civilians towards military targets to protect the latter from attacks as is required by the customary definition of that war crime (Rule 97, ICRC Study)

          I hope your English is sufficient to understand the above.

          My dear Alex I am sorry, You have called yourself a Dumb Ass.

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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            How is this exonerating? It states a simple point of law – i.e. we need evidence of ‘deliberate’ movement. Do you have that evidence? Or do you simply assume guilt of the LTTE and then dislike the PoE position because evidence does not presently exist to support your assumption.

            As for Tamil history .. I don’t know how it is relevant today – like very Sinhala nationalist, whenever Sri Lanka’s abuses today come up you drag up history from the Mahawamsa to anything else you can concoct. Again, its relevance to today is??

            Sri Lanka is a SInhala nationalist state run by people who sadly think like you. That means we need regime change or international intervention or both. Watch this space.

            BTW don’t be sorry – you cant help it – at a dollar a day they had to choose people like you for their propaganda – its not your fault you are have the IQ of goldfish! But keep reading and you may learn something.

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              Dear Alex,

              You asked “How is this exonerating? It states a simple point of law – i.e. we need evidence of ‘deliberate’ movement. Do you have that evidence?”

              That is exactly what the POE banked on. Confusion.

              You are too simple minded to realize that the Rome Statute, Article 8, (b) (xxiii) has no such requirement

              What is required is only the “PRESCENCE” of Civilians.

              Please quote from the Rome Statute and show where it stipulates “Deliberate” movement?

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                Firstly you need to learn to spell .. its presence not “PRESCENCE’. Considering that auto-correct is almost universal now, its both stupid and lazy – and to really make it stand out you put it in capitals.

                Secondly, it doesn’t exonerate anyone – it simply says there is ‘presently no evidence of’ – i.e. in the 180 witness statements that make up the report, there is no evidence of the point. Its a fairly clear report, not sure why you are getting so emotional about it.

                It is now for an investigation and more evidence which may or may not support your point. Its not a complicated process .. but you do find it hard to follow, don’t you?

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                  Alex as I requested earlier Please quote from the Rome Statute and show where it stipulates “Deliberate” movement?

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                  Ah yes, the classic “LOL u cnt spell OLOLOL” argument! You’re unleashing the WMDs now huh :D Were you by any chance captain of the debate team at school, ‘Alex’? :D
                  By the way, you should learn the difference between “its” and “it’s” before trying to lecture anyone on their English :D

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                    I ordinarily wouldn’t focus on minor errors, but given Off-the-boat takes great pleasure in undermining others by attacking their use of the English language, I thought it was somewhat ironic.

                    As for Off-the-boat, the PoE is simply pointing out that if civilians fled with the LTTE in fear of the Sinhala army, then the LTTE can’t be accused of taking human shields.

                    We are waiting for all the evidence, which will be more available when Sri Lanka permits a full investigation, but based on the substantial evidence available to the PoE thus far, there is no evidence of the LTTE taking human shields. I.e. thats just Sri Lankan state propaganda. What a surprise.

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                      Dear Alex,

                      Re “its presence not “PRESCENCE’”

                      Point taken but even with the spelling error you understood it.

                      Now that you have understood it please quote from the Rome Statute and show where it stipulates “Deliberate” movement?

                      You have commented that

                      “the PoE is simply pointing out that if civilians fled with the LTTE in fear of the Sinhala army, then the LTTE can’t be accused of taking human shields. ”

                      Makes one wonder whether you can even Read English.

                      they forced thousands of civilians, often under threat of death, to remain in areas under their control during the last stages of the war and enforced this control by killing persons who attempted to leave that area. states the POE

                      Ha ha haa

                      Alex you are either a Simpleton to discuss a complex topic. It is a waste of time to respond to an obvious Moron.

                      You have consistently avoided quoting from the Rome Statute even though you were requested several times.

                      You have been making Wild statements about the Law. Requests for substantiation have gone unheeded. Hence unless your comments provide answers to pending questions your responses will be ignored.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                      Alex
                      I still remember sivasankaran sarma’s insulting comment that most tamils may not know of the literary concept of allegory.

                      We need to move from this fruitless confrontational arguements and focus our attention on helping fellow srilankans.

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                      Did you finally get hold of a dictionary, ‘ken’? Perhaps you can share it so the rest of We Thamizh stop fantasising about mating with wild animals :D

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    The problem with Sinhala nationalists is, they know that they cannot defend the integrity of their heroes, imagine defending MR’s integrity?, even their Sinhala brothers and sisters will riducule them. So, as a diversion, they always attempt to question the integrity of the critics of Sinhala nationalism such as the International Truth and Justice Project, AI, HRW etc. The usual unsubstantiated accusations of financial backing etc are raised without a single piece of evidence provided.
    It is the integrity of the critics of this report that needs to questioned if they are unable to provide evidence, not the report itself.

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      Dear Kaz,

      Mr. Darusman, Ms. Yasmin Sooka and Mr. Steven Ratner has subverted the Rome Statute law on Human Shields and have exonerated the LTTE of that war crime.

      The Proof is in their own report item 237.

      If you think otherwise argue your case without ranting and running around like a Headless Chicken.

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        However much you try, there has been a lot of exposure to this report on this site and online.

        Your attempt at subverting our attention from this has not worked, sorry !

        So now you comment as OTC? Not M N I N Perera? LOL

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          Hello Robert R,

          Re “However much you try, there has been a lot of exposure to this report on this site and online”

          And so has there been a similar exposure to Sooka’s Dishonesty

          Re “Your attempt at subverting our attention from this has not worked, sorry !”

          I was not interested in your attention you are not a thinking Tamil anyway.

          My focus was on the Foreign reader, who Sooka was trying to indoctrinate. They are now aware of [Edited out] Yasmin Sooka and will be more critical in interpreting what she writes.

          But you are too egoistic and Foolish to realize that.

          Re “So now you comment as OTC? Not M N I N Perera? LOL”

          OTC is better known than MNIN and from the inception I have declared who MNIN is.

          You see Robert when you cannot even prove that Robert R is your real name, it is IDIOTIC to worry about those of others. If you don’t believe me, just try proving you are really what you claim to be.

          Prove that Robert R is your name and it is not Fitzpatric

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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            Well OTC you are certainly earning your dollar for the day, for Gotabaya’s propaganda unit. Even the current government now accepts the need for investigations – you are fighting last years battle – the boss to busy squirrelling away illegal funds to give you guidance.

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              Again Red Herrings to divert attention. Wont work.

              Address the issue at Hand, Corrupt Yasmin Sooka and the POE exonerating the LTTE of the war crime of using Human Shields

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            I am sure Sooka is shaking in her boots at your “expose” lol She must be so scared and hiding under the bed. Have you sent a white van to get her like you did for so many Tamils?
            If you have nothing to hide, why all this noise? Investigate and show there was no truth in her claims.

            It was you who slipped up and posted under two names and got caught with your pants around your ankles.
            I am not Fitzpatrick. If you think I am I will ask you to prove it ha ha

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              Dear Robert R,

              Read the POE Report, item 237 and try to reconcile it with the Rome Statute, Article 8, (b) (xxiii) and post your result with your own argument.

              If you can arrive at a conclusion that supports the POE’s then we can discuss further.

              Tr “It was you who slipped up and posted under two names and got caught with your pants around your ankles”

              Let’s see whose pants a down

              There are Idiots like you, who question a pseudonym. Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam is one of them. Here is a reply I gave him on June 11, 2015 at 10:02 am. It is signed as OTC (MNIN Perera).

              Like you do with Fitzpatrick, I don’t juggle with names. They have been declared as mine from the start. Now please run along and do your homework, your genitals are on public display. ha ha haa.

              ————–
              Dear Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam,

              You wrote “Off the cuff, do not be a coward. If you have guts please write in your own name, without hiding under assumed name”
              .
              .
              Kind Regards,
              OTC
              (MNIN Perera)

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            “Prove that Robert R is your name and it is not Fitzpatric “

            Well, neither one is his REAL name :D
            “Robert” has been spinning so many tales using so many different names even he can’t keep them straight. One minute he’s a burgher – next he just an interested American – then in his desperation to dissociate “Robert R” from his other sockpuppet “Fitzpatrick” he forgets that he’d been hounding Michael Roberts for years using both names :D Oh what comedy :D

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              Dear Siva,

              Robert R brought Fitzpatrik to CT from GV when I pinpointed the TGTE spadework that preceded the Sooka report!

              BTW Fitzpatrik has failed to respond for 7 days.

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              Imposter Sarma,

              You should be the last person who should comment on names whether they are real or not! :D

              It is not a surprise that you get along with the intellectually dishonest OTC; you two make a right good pair. It suits OTC to play along with your impersonation scoring some cheap points along the way. To me, you are a comedian who make me laugh no ends. I like it long may you continue! :D

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                Dear Burning,

                You may be an intellectual but Rhetoric cannot win debates. Rhetoric is what you bank on while an intellectual would bank on factual, Logical arguments.

                Tell us how many LTTE CASUALTIES you can see within the PTK Hospital premises shown on the CH4 Video.

                PTK was the ONLY hospital that the LTTE had access to and the video was taken while the War was raging around PTK.

                It is a SIMPLE question that only requires you to Review the CH4 Video that you hold in such high esteem.

                I hope your HONESTY will shine through in your answer.

                BTW, on the subject of Imposters How would you classify the guy who is calling himself a “Native Vedda”? He is a Real IMPOSTER because he is not a Vedda. Have you ever attacked the Imposter “Native Vedda” the way you regularly attack Siva Sankaran Sarma?

                Why do you apply Double Standards?

                Please keep in mind that you, the Vedda Imposter and I (as well as many others) use Pseudonyms.

                You should learn to address the message instead of trying to club to death the messenger because you don’t like the message and has no facts at your command to refute the message.

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

                while you and I and the Imposter who pretends to be a Veddause Pseudonyms Siva is using a Name

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                  More conjecture and amateur guess work … you must just sit there all day making crap up. Thankfully, the world has moved on from listening to the Sinhala nationalist spin doctors and propagandists .. the only people paying attention now are your monks and Sinhala villagers .. oh yes Rajapakse’s vote base – what a surprise.

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                  “while you and I and the Imposter who pretends to be a Veddause Pseudonyms Siva is using a Name”

                  Like you use M. N. I .N. Perera you mean! :D You are not that gullible are you?

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                    Like I use Off the Cuff and you use Burning Issue.

                    But the Fact remains you have never Questioned “Native Vedda” who is an imposter as he is not a Vedda. Ha ha haa!

                    But you question Siva Sankaran Sarma who you claim is an imposter. What is he Masquerading as?

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              He even claimed to be an Englishman till it was pointed out that Fitzpatrick is NOT an English name.

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                He’s just had his loin cloth blown off into a Palmyra tree, and instead of running home to cover his shame he’s standing there trying to retrieve it with a bamboo stick, genitals on full display :D

                He knows that we know, and yet he persists. That’s the saddest thing :D

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    Any body can deny all the crimes, West and India can delay international investigation, but eventually justice will be given to Tamils by God. That time the criminals may not be alive and they may be dogs or crows, as some one mentioned. There is a believe, the parent’s sin affect their offspring’s which many might have experienced in their life span. So the people who will be affected by the past and present crimes against Tamils are the present younger generation. Doing nothing to stop the crime is a bigger crime. I do not worry too much about bad comments here because many bad people comment here to earn money- you can not wake up them because they act like sleeping and ask others to act as well. Most of my comments are for good people.

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    Listen Donkey, why the f!@#$% dont you talk about the LTTE recruiting child solders? Did they come to the Sinhala areas and kidnap the children? They kidnap the Tamil children after raping and beating the Tamil women. Did the government solders grab kids and recruit for the LTTE. So talk sens women. You are sponsored by LTTE blood thirsty basters who have not seen their mothers in day light. Why the f@#$%@ dont you talk about the Tamis Caste problem that initiated the LTTE fraction as they were bared from the Jaffna kovils? Why dont you talk about the school girl that was raped in daylight by the Tamils in 2015?

    Do not talk f@#$%^^& bull shit. Go find a LTTE lover and tell them your shit.

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      Donkey

      “Go find a LTTE lover and tell them your shit.”

      Wait until the s**t hits the fan.

      Make sure you do not open your mouth.

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      Donkey, why do you keep talking about the LTTE? It barely exists now – the only people who bring it up are Gotabaya and the morons that follow him.

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    The sooner these pontificating psuedo pundits begin to write correct news, the better it is for the Tamils and Sri Lanka. Though Tamils are a community, a part of Sri Lanka these scribes are causing a wedge between Tamils and Sinhalese, Muslims who are making great strides in promoting harmony. Sadly there is a group of so called intelligent Tamils who pandering to persons like Mc Crae who has a vested interest in the media to spread false, manufactured news items to continue a wedge among the Sri Lankan communities, let me also mention these articles are funded by promoters of LTTE, like Adele Balasingham, who donate large amounts of monet to this cause of bad publicity. This is a woman who even will not be allowed to attend the funeral of any of her parents in Australia.

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    The sooner these pontificating psuedo pundits begin to write correct news, the better it is for the Tamils and Sri Lanka. Though Tamils are a community, a part of Sri Lanka these scribes are causing a wedge between Tamils and Sinhalese, Muslims who are making great strides in promoting harmony. Sadly there is a group of so called intelligent Tamils who pandering to persons like Mc Crae who has a vested interest in the media to spread false, manufactured news items to continue a wedge among the Sri Lankan communities, let me also mention these articles are funded by promoters of LTTE, like Adele Balasingham, who donate large amounts of money to this cause of bad publicity. This is a woman who even will not be allowed to attend the funeral of any of her parents in Australia.

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