20 September, 2018

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Rapp Stepping Down: US Accused Of Not Giving Sri Lanka’s “White Flag Killings” Info

The US government has been accused of not giving access to information that is required to investigate the ‘white flag case‘.

In an interview with the Foreign Policy magazine, Steven Ratner – a professor of law at the University of Michigan and ex-member of a UN Panel that examined the commission of mass atrocities that occurred in the final phase of the Sri Lankan war, made this remark as he commented on the issue of Stephen J Rapp -the US Ambassador at large for war crimes, stepping down after five and a half years of service.

Ambassador Stephen J. Rapp

Ambassador Stephen J. Rapp

Rapp’s departure has not yet been announced, and the war crimes prosecutor did not respond to requests for confirmation. But several sources familiar with Rapp’s plans confirmed that he is leaving and that the State Department has formally launched a search campaign for a replacement, the Foreign Policy magazine said.

“Rapp had little success forcing American intelligence agencies to share information they’ve collected about human rights abuses abroad,” Ratner said as he recalled a visit to Rapp’s office during the time Ratner was investigating war crimes in Sri Lanka on behalf of the U.N. panel set up by the U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.

He had been seeking information concerning allegations that were being levelled against the Sri Lankan officials about summarily executing senior rebel commanders after the United Nations brokered their surrender.

Ratner had heard a rumor that the U.S. Embassy had picked up some intercepts with information related to the case.

“They made it clear to us there were pretty strong constraints on what they were going to be able to share with us. . . In the end, they didn’t give us anything,” he said.

There are many accusations against the US government including pressing the case for accountability for crimes selectively and passionately and promoting the international prosecution of political rivals.

“In Sri Lanka, Rapp has conceded that it is unrealistic to expect that Colombo will assent to conduct investigations into mass war crimes by government forces during the bloody final months of the country’s civil war. But he has urged the government to at least exhume the bodies of victims in order to give their families some sense of closure,” the Foreign Policy magazine said.

Ambassador Stephen J. Rapp visited Sri Lanka from January 6-11 last year to meet with government and political leaders, civil society, and to tour former conflict zones.

Issuing a statement on his visit, the US Embassy Colombo last year said: “He heard about the progress made since the conflict, but also the Sri Lankan people’s continuing desire for reconciliation, justice and accountability.

“During Ambassador Rapp’s discussions, he listened to eyewitness accounts about serious human rights abuses and violations of international humanitarian law, including those that occurred at the end of the war. In that context the government of the United States encourages the government of Sri Lanka to seek the truth through independent and credible investigations, and where relevant, have prosecutions.

“The United States remains committed to working with the Government of Sri Lanka to promote greater peace and prosperity for all of the people of Sri Lanka. It is vital that all sides come to an agreement on events, have appropriate redress, and move forward as a unified country that upholds the rule of law and respects the principles of democratic governance.”

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    The satellite images will do fine.

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      Anyone expecting American satellite images from the Northern Sri Lankan region adjoining the Bay of Bengal is ignorant of the technology. Satisfactory satellite imaging depends heavily on suitable atmospheric conditons. The weather and climatic conditions close to the Bay of Bengal are highly problematic for satellite imaging.

      This is the reason why America – to their embarassment – became clueless about India’s 1998 Pokhran-II nuclear bomb test explosions.

      At the closing stages of the Sri Lankan war, Americans only had coarse images of a Tigers’ war cemetary of mounds of sands. They tried to bluff the UN with those as Army burial sites of civilians. They might try it again.

      But those who know satellite technology can’t be fooled. They haven’t got anything reliable.

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        “”The weather and climatic conditions close to the Bay of Bengal are highly problematic for satellite imaging. This is the reason why America – to their embarassment – became clueless about India’s 1998 Pokhran-II nuclear bomb test explosions. “”
        Pokhran

        “place of five mirages”

        Rajasthan looking Bengal- the first test, code-named Smiling Buddha, was conducted in May 1974.
        Chandrika,
        loyalty like a dog/god?? long time no flea??

        There are finer animals:
        a better sense of direction like a homing pigeon, a better vision than the eagle, hard work like an ant, commitment like a cow, better dressed like parrot peacock…

        just turn about for turning about sake!
        Go to the zoo and watch a pair of monkeys picking each others ears- there you have the promise of Newton and Einstein.

        you may be the queen of England you got to serve somebody-
        sihla buddhist dont have the DNA to do Faluja! Get away without minority sanction at Lanka is a wet dream for Pinochet

        Apocalypse Now- “The horror! The horror!”

        Armageddon- 1998- “I Don’t Want to Miss a Thing”

        1972 shaking hands with russia and china in a mound of its own we flew over from the central valley nagpur and the yankees knew it the pakis knew it too. But they needed 8 days logistics searun of 7 fleet arrival.

        1972 – we were already on Excel on our laptops thanks to the `hippies`

        1998, New Technology NT Windows and hotmail and skype.

        Chandi FROG: Creep Fu****g Run Out Gas.- Gass Gembo!

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        Chandrika

        Have you seen the satellite pictures or have spoken to anyone who have seen them?

        For a change read reports published by American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAA)-Advancing Science Serving Society.

        Here is something that you should see for yourself, contemplate then go to bed:

        High-Resolution Satellite Imagery and the Conflict in Sri Lanka
        http://www.aaas.org/geotech/sri_lanka_2009

        Sri Lanka: Images of Military Zone Reveal No Significant Increase in Public Facilities, AAAS Reports

        http://www.aaas.org/news/sri-lanka-images-military-zone-reveal-
        no-significant-increase-public-facilities-aaas-reports

        This is not Mahawamsa nor Balaya Saha Balaya.

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          [Edited out] Veddah

          I checked all the sites you have listed.

          They are all classified by the International Association for the Certification of Websites (IAFCW.org) as all sites being managed by “the International Jewish Conspiracy to capture countries by promoting bogus human rights allegations against strong eaders of the develoing world”.

          I got out quick smart because i don’t want to be associated with this non-Aryan [Edited out]

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            Chandrika

            ““the International Jewish Conspiracy to capture countries by promoting bogus human rights allegations against strong eaders of the develoing world”.”

            You forgot to mention International Jewish/Tamil Diaspora Conspiracy.

            “non-Aryan”

            Who are these aliens, Hitlers descendants? Are you one of them?

            “[Edited out]”

            What did you mean by the above?

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              [Edited out] could probably mean “NittaewoCides”

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                it’s “Engessar”

                Sabes, engessar é uma arte. (You know, casting is an art.)

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                  “É tempo de engessar este macaco do mar.”

                  meaning – Time to get this sea monkey plastered.

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            %%They are all classified%%-

            Buruva, Ratton just used to mouse ran.

            Here comes the flood again Buruva,

            Blame, no one is to blame

            Don’t try rugby it may strike you.

            Try the 2nd link on their search site ( its perhaps to keep scum traffic away) Hey Pepsi cola Perspective (video and audio is reserved for rights)!

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            Chandia bundia,

            ¬ i don’t want to be associated with this non-Aryan¬

            Is your skin peeling like the snake??

            North Hindia found a recipe for ¬Aryan`(Sanskrit means where the Iranian Mulla resides )
            Under Sonia (remember her pop was a Nazi captured by the Russians and in prison for 2 years) she gave them relief by virtue of law over stupid faith.

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        Chadrika could be wrong here. US satellite imagery as presented by Colin Powell “accurately” picked up mobile nuclear rocket launchers of Sadam Hussein. Colin Powell presented the “accurate” imagery for UN, and US military neutralised a million unarmed Iraqi civilians. The quality of US satellite images don’t matter, or,do they?

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          Well said Lal, I did not put it in so many words.
          Thank you.

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            Chandrika and Lal loo

            Hubble Telescope, look here what it found in the space:

            http://hubblesite.org/gallery/tours/tour-30doradus/

            It was not made in the USA and didn’t find 30 Doradus:

            30 Doradus, located in the heart of the Tarantula nebula, is the brightest star-forming region in our galactic neighborhood. It is home to several million young stars; among which live the most massive stars ever seen. The nebula resides 170,000 light-years away in the Large Magellanic Cloud, a small, satellite galaxy of our Milky Way. No known star-forming region in our galaxy is as large or as prolific as 30 Doradus. The image comprises one of the largest mosaics ever assembled from Hubble photos.

            Did Champika Ranawake’s ancestors create Hubble Telescope?

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              Ranawaka created a hundreds of Doladuks in his MaRa tenure.

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              NV
              It’s like asking the two with king kong’s B.O. what is truth??

              we don’t need their answer anymore and they need a good shower to think afresh. when will they ever learn??

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          And those mobile launchers were in fact Al Hussein II Scud launchers in “Now you see, Now you don’t” dimensions, and you say Colin Powell was right?

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          Lalu Prasad,

          “Colin Powell presented the “accurate” imagery for UN, and US military neutralised a million unarmed Iraqi civilians. The quality of US satellite images don’t matter, or,do they?”

          You want quality for free given by copy cat china that goes bang like a cracker?

          Scumbag its the `Abrahams` that buried the armed in their pits- they were all armed to the teeth by the russians and her former soviets called non aligned- and as usual lankians were first to sail to sell tea but said `Croak`et` and was turned back.

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      Dear crazyoldmansl,

      I have posted a comment with proof of questionable actions of Ratner, Darusman, Yasmin Sooka and Philippe Alston at the following link.

      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/rapp-stepping-down-us-accused-of-not-giving-sri-lankas-white-flag-killings-info/comment-page-1/#comment-1748764

      Any comments?

      Kind Regards,
      OTC

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        Off the Cuff:

        The American intelligence agencies may have refused to share whatever intelligence info they they may have had but it is the USA that propelled and led the UNHRC “assault” on the Rajapakse regime. Who knows, what may be thought of as incriminating evidence could well be hidden to incriminate the Rajapaksas.

        The “questionable” actions of Mahinda mama and Gotabaya uncle has stuck firmly and now that they have been stripped of their kingdom, the remnants like you and Dayan should prove your loyalty in sharing their plight and concern. Good wishes.

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          Dear Jansee,

          My comment on which I invited the observations of crazyoldmansl was not about Mahinda or Gota. I did not write in their defense either. You are free to hold them accountable anytime you wish but I suggest you start with the person who trained the Baby Brigade of the LTTE.

          Ms Adelle Balasingham is living under your nose with the blessings of the UK govt. She gave a cyanide necklace to each Tamil Child at the passing out parades of the Child Soldiers (BBC archives will have cinematic proof) and she is directly responsible for wiping out several generations of Tamils.

          Remember the Children who fought a man’s war because a million gutless Tamils deserted Prabahkaran and ran to the West in search of money. These children were snatched from their mothers because Prabahkaran was short of manpower. Have you fought for Eelam and Prabahkaran or were you sitting with your gutless parents watching TV in the comfort of your living rooms overseas?

          Prove that your call for investigations is genuine by agitating and bringing Adelle to face the ICC. What prevents you?

          You seem to have studiously avoided commenting on the real issues raised in my comment.

          Facts point to the dishonesty and the possibility of The Members of the UNSG’s POE Mr. Steven R. Ratner, Mr. Marzuki Darusman and Ms Yasmin Sooka being bribed to produce a sham report implicating Sri Lanka of war crimes while at the same time prostituting the ICC statute in an attempt at absolving the LTTE of using Human Shields.

          Facts also prove that Prof Philippe Alston, a UN Special Rapporteur has brought in a proven PERJURER and a proven CHARLATAN disguised as EXPERTS to authenticate the first CH4 Video. Both of them could not stand up to cross examination in US and Canadian Judicial establishments.

          The Cornerstone of the UNHRC resolution is the POE report of Darusman and co. The questions raised is about the honesty and integrity of the members of the POE which produced that dubious report based on dubious evidence provided by Prof Alston who used perjurers and Charlatans as “Experts”.

          That cornerstone is now cracked and the integrity of the four people involved is in doubt. The possibility of all those involved being bribed is very real.

          Please provide factual arguments, if any, that prove otherwise, instead of worthless imbecile rants.

          I hope you can establish the expertise of Dr. Daniel Spitz and Mr.Grant Fredericks and the Honesty, Impartiality and Integrity of Mr. Ratner, Mr. Darusman, Ms Sooka and Prof Alston.

          Do you have the Intelligence to do that Jansee?

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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            Off the Cuff:

            When half-baked beans shoot from both side of the mouths without investing in their faculties, then it will be in order to educate them. Little wonder that you have joined that classroom.

            I have not tied Adele to my lap and for all your “wisdom” get it going joker. Go and get her. You are talking as if I am holding her in my custody, quite contrary to the remnants of those lapdogs KP and Karuna held by your demigod RP. If in case you forget your own identity, keep on looking in the mirror and see where the fault lines are.

            It doesn’t take long to understand and believe that baboons have better reasoning than you. The UNHRC has taken to task both sides of the warring parties. If you do wake up, you can start the ball rolling by packing off the LTTE remnants in the regime’s custody. I believe you guys know the whereabouts of them, including Pillaiyan. Your seemingly hilarious outburst would even overshadow the “three sillies”

            If you feel contemptible of the UN and UNHRC initiated investigations and against those who were appointed to carry them out, just slap yourself in the face. Despite vociferously protesting against Ban’s UN Panel and professing not to even bother about it, the regime sent a team to meet the Panel through the back-door. Such antics don’t work anymore, much like the bluff of carrying the gun in one hand and the human rights charter in the other. May be the soldiers were experts in holding and shooting with one hand, or is it? Then comes the mother of all lies – the zero civilian casualties charade.

            Finally, it is not an intelligence contest that I am concerned of or after. That “intelligence” has forsaken you and your masters long time ago. May be you should seek the advice of the astrologer who miserably failed MR. Don’t be a fool like him. Instead of believing in the people who elected and will elect him, he believed in a half-past-six astrologer. Such high intelligence may have had forsaken MR but don’t try to run the mill with such blatant ignorance. Just that the Tamils have got this far should not leave any doubts over their intelligence. Mind you, more is coming. Just a word of advice.

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              Hey Jansee – Off the Cuff comment is with facts – you are barking insult at him like a mad dog – what we can judge is you kind of people are getting excited when the real truth is reveled – calm down – truth remains truth

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                Rabok:

                “truth remains truth”

                You are talking about which and whose truth? Just because you claim that what “Off the Cuff” wrote are facts, that we should accept them too, and we will continue to bark, if that is what you want. You people can continue to lie within the country but be prepared that that may not work beyond the borders of SL. Too bad, isn’t it?

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                  Dear Jansee,

                  Re “You are talking about which and whose truth?”

                  In contesting the UNSG’s POE report the sources I have used are the ICC, US courts, Canadian Commission of inquiry and the ICRC.

                  With which of those sources do you have a problem with and why?

                  I have responded to you in detail below.

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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              Dear Jansee,

              From the vituperative diatribe that you write it looks like my comments have gone home!

              I have responded to you in detail below. Please read it and provide a logical counter argument instead of the diatribe that you are used to.

              I do hope that you have the intelligence to counter the arguments I have made with facts, instead of a response with the hallmarks of a fool, another vituperative diatribe.

              https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/rapp-stepping-down-us-accused-of-not-giving-sri-lankas-white-flag-killings-info/comment-page-1/#comment-1749522

              Kind Regards,
              OTC

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                Off the Cuff:

                Whether it looks like or you simply assume or even declare the whole world belongs to you, surely there can be no problem with that. Do I really care. You can go on writing all your crap but the wheels of justice will move on as it should. Now allegations of Lasantha’s murder has come out. It is only a matter of time that you may need to throw your papers in the dustbin.

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                  Dear Jansee,

                  As stated above my detailed response to your vituperative comment is at the link given to you above. Are you afraid to contest what I have written?

                  You have still not written a challenging comment. Is that because you dont have the facts or your intelligence is not up to the task or because you concede that I have written the Truth?

                  My question was about the UNSG’s Panel Report and the very real possibility that the members of that Panel would have been bribed to Prostitute the Truth by the LTTE Financiers.

                  Here is the link again to my detailed response to you. Please give an impressively stunning, intelligent reply with facts to disprove what I have said.

                  https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/rapp-stepping-down-us-accused-of-not-giving-sri-lankas-white-flag-killings-info/comment-page-1/#comment-1749522

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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      WE all saw the wikileaks Info Re-White flags and the war. ANyone bothers to go through it.. Communication uncensored.. But might not fit the narrative of certain groups..

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    NSA probably have recordings of all voice/phone/military signals too.

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    Dear Mr. Steven R. Ratner, Mr. Marzuki Darusman, Ms Yasmin Sooka and CT Readers,

    In an interview with the Foreign Policy magazine, Steven Ratner – a professor of law at the University of Michigan adn ex-member of a UN Panel that examined the commission of mass atrocities that occurred in the final phase of the Sri Lankan war, made this remark

    “They made it clear to us there were pretty strong constraints on what they were going to be able to share with us. . . In the end, they didn’t give us anything,” he said.

    That is an admission that they did not have access to any evidence that the US govt had.
    That prunes down the body of evidence that they had. A damning admission.

    No wonder Ratner, Darusman and Yasmin Sooka had to stoop low to scrape the bottom of the barrel for “evidence”. That bottom scraping turned out Ch4’s “documentaries” Authenticated by PROVEN Perjuror’s and Charlatans.

    Ratner, Darusman and Sooka refers to the first CH4 Video in section 148 of their report as “Authenticated footage”

    Who authenticated it?

    Dr. Daniel Spitz and Mr.Grant Fredericks.

    Daniel Spitz is a PROOVEN perjuror who has done so in US courts
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Oy76_nICc&NR=1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpL56wS_qZo

    Grant Fredericks is a Charlatan whose “Evidence” was rejected by a Canadian Commission of inquiry with the following observation

    quote … He has no special expertise in determining steps from shoulder movements — without the verification referred to above, Mr. Fredericks’ opinion of three distinct steps forward is based entirely on his repetitive viewing of the three-second segment of the Pritchard video and his interpretation of Mr. Dziekanski’s changing shoulder movements. I am not persuaded that his expertise as a forensic video analyst extends to this type of human body movement. In the absence of such expertise, his opinion deserves no greater weight than the opinion of any other careful observer. unquote

    The Trio has gone much more further because in section 237 they have exonerated the LTTE of using Human Shields.

    The ICC Statute definition of a Human Shield the following can be found.

    “(xxiii) Utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations;”

    Ratner and co says that this did not happen.

    Have they sold their sole for Lucre?
    Apparently so.

    Any explanation Mr Ratner?

    Kind Regards,
    OTC

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      America can not be fooled. They recorded Gotha’s conversations from his cell. Gotha now has very flimsy protection from New King. Gotha may not get down to challenge America depending on that.

      You better know that the UN SG Expert Panel did not give a verdict. They have reasonable suspicion in the events, the way you struggle to hide and deny it. So they produced a report that raises a suspicion. If a suspicion is raised, then the legal procedure is investigating it. Now OHCHR has taken it to the next level. So soon, UN will have to investigate it and give it’s verdict. You make have to wait until that for your need for prove.

      It has been, now reveled that King left the Temple Tree scared by Suren Surenthiran. He and Father Emmanuel has been saying that if the regime changes only the investigation would be facilitated. So when King saw that he was about to lose, he handed over the the Temple Tree House key to new King and fell down on the new Kings feet and asked him to give protection from IC investigation. Soon, he may beg the new King that he would be prepared to for local investigation, if they are ready to protect him. Impunity is mantra from the time SLFP was created in Lanka. So it will be there to protect MY3’s war crimes, Fonseka’s war crime’……

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        Dear Mallaiyuran,

        More Ranting like Jansee has done?
        Readers can see who is struggling to avoid issues.

        I have provided Factual Evidence of Dishonesty and attempted prostitution of the ICC Statute. It is sufficient for any reader with intelligence to think and wonder, why people of high social standing would risk their reputation by doing what they have done.

        That they may have been bribed handsomely to offset the risk of losing their reputation is a very real possibility.

        Disprove what I have written if you have the intelligence to do so instead of ranting like an imbecile and struggling like a fish out of water.

        Kind Regards,
        OTC

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          BAn Ki Moon promised that this illegal POE is only to advice him and this report would not be used as a UN document. Liar always knew what he was doing.

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            Blame, no one is to blame. As natural as the sun that falls
            Here comes the lightening again.
            Don’t try rugby it may strike you.

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          Off the cuff – These rabid dogs hate to read logic or any kind of truth that disprove their bias propaganda – however there are enough people with brains to understand the reality of the facts – Does any of their comments in response to you comments offer anything to disprove what you say – NONE –

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            `read logic`

            what is logic?/

            logic of one culture is trash for another.

            idler vs one who wants to innovate perform better and better.

            China vs USA

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            Dear Rabok,

            I have raised this matter with Ms Yasmin Sooka when she wrote an article to GroundViews about a year back. At that time I questioned her about her misinterpretation of the ICC statute on Human Shields.

            She had no answer.
            That tells the story.

            Now in addition to the above I am questioning them on how and who authenticated the CH4 video because they claim it is authenticated in section 148 of the POE report.

            The evidence I have produced in support of my argument is authentic and can be verified by anyone with an Internet search. Hence no one can counter what I have written about the POE. That is why Jansee is not attempting it and is instead oozing vituperative rubbish.

            Kind Regards,
            OTC

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          Off the Cuff:

          Clap, clap, clap. Please welcome the most “intelligent” person on earth.

          In one breath you talk of the “dishonesty and possibility” but then blabber as “truth” whatever you have picked up from unreliable sources. Never mind about the accounts of so many victims who have been ruthlessly tortured and raped. The signature of a sadistic nation should shame you guys. The various acts of torture, rape and murder shows the kind of depraved animals you people are and would anyone be surprised that you would be one such person, too.

          Instead of burying your head into the deep debris, MR was given plenty of time for SL to conduct its own investigation but you people thought everyone could be hoodwinked. When the lies and deceit became very clear, it was then Ban decided to have one. You keep on blabbering your nonsense but the investigations will continue and if you are so kind enough, then you could offer your head instead of Rajapakse.

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            Dear Jansee,

            You are still avoiding to address what I have written about the UN investigations which started when the CH4 Video first came into the public domain.

            The UN Rapporteur Prof Philippe Alston was the first UN official who started investigations and attempted to AUTHENTICATE that video. The UN’s Panel of Experts report is what you and all separatists depend on to carry out an International Investigation. The UNSG’s POE uses Philippe Alston’s report.

            I have shown with irrefutable evidence that the persons Alston produced as EXPERT witnesses were Liars whose evidence has been REJECTED by US and Canadian Judicial Establishments.

            One of them could not even find the entrance wound of a man shot in the head execution style (just like in the CH4 video) and the other tried to cover up for the police killing of a man at an airport in Canada. His evidence was discredited by the Canadian Commission of inquiry which said he had no expertise on Human body movement.

            Thus from the start the UN investigations were tainted by Fraud, Deceit and Lies.

            Adding insult to injury, the so called UN “EXPERT” Panel has used that tainted and fraudulent report from UN’s Philippe Alston in their own report thus exposing that they too are biased towards the LTTE and has an interest in protecting the LTTE and it’s Financiers. The intent of the UNSG’s POE in protecting the LTTE has been made very clear from the emphasised text in the following extract of their report

            237. Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions: Credible allegations point to a violation of Common Article 3’s ban on the taking of hostages insofar as they forced thousands of civilians, often under threat of death, to remain in areas under their control during the last stages of the war and enforced this control by killing persons who attempted to leave that area. (With respect to the credible allegations of the LTTE’s refusal to allow civilians to leave the combat zone, the Panel believes that these actions did not, in law, amount to the use of human shields insofar as it did not find credible evidence of the LTTE deliberately moving civilians towards military targets to protect the latter from attacks as is required by the customary definition of that war crime (Rule 97, ICRC Study)

            Please note that the POE avoids quoting the ICC Statute. The UN’s ICC is the Law making body. It is the ICC that will prosecute and impose punishment. It is the ICC Statute and International conventions and treaties that will be binding. The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has no legal standing but the POE decided to quote them and not the ICC.

            Why did the UNSG’s experts ignore the ICC and International Law and quote the ICRC that has no legal standing? I can show that even the ICRC interpretation of a Human Shield (ICRC rule 97) does not require movement of civilians to the military objective as a PRIMARY requirement in order to be held accountable for using a Human Shield. Thus the UNSG’s POE has made a fraudulent and deceitfully disgusting claim in order to EXONERATE the LTTE and it’s Financiers of a grave war crime.

            The ICC has very clearly defined a Human Shield in the following.

            “(xxiii) Utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations;”

            Perhaps the UNSG’s POE did not understand the word PRESENCE when they wrote paragraph 237 of their report due to very lucrative BRIBES from LTTE financiers !!!

            That you avoid issues with your vituperative dribble is patently clear.

            You say “In one breath you talk of the “dishonesty and possibility” but then blabber as “truth” whatever you have picked up from unreliable sources”

            Jansee wake up and read my comment before you vomit your diatribe.

            In contesting the UNSG’s POE report the sources I have used are the ICC, US courts, Canadian Commission of inquiry and the ICRC. To claim that those sources are unreliable was very intelligent Jansee, very intelligent indeed.

            I see that my question about Ms Adelle Balasingham has gone home too.

            You say “I have not tied Adele to my lap and for all your “wisdom” get it going joker. Go and get her. “

            So you have no interest in getting her to the ICC?
            Why may I ask?

            Was she not in charge of the Baby Brigade of the LTTE?
            Did she not commission Child Soldiers by tying a Cyanide Capsule around their necks?

            Your present indifference towards Adelle’s crimes by not campaigning to hold her accountable amounts to providing her with tacit protection. It is no different to the indifference your Parents showed when Tamil Children were sent to the war front to die, while they used the situation to find a cushy life in affluent countries.

            Those who feared to stay amongst the Sinhalese, that you see as barbarians, had two options. Flee or Fight. Those who wanted to fight went to the North and joined Prabahkaran. Those who wanted to flee had two places to flee to within easy reach. The closest was to seek the protection of your protector Prabahkaran in the North of SL. For those who feared to avail Prabahkaran’s protection there was India just a few miles away.

            Those Tamils who sought Prabahkaran’s protection genuinely feared to live amongst the Sinhalese but were not cowards. Those who went to India was not prepared to fight for what they believed in and were cowards but still had a genuine fear to live amongst the Sinhala. These two groups can be respected.

            The Tamils who do not fall into the above groups USED the SITUATION to run after wealth. They were neither prepared to fight for what they wanted nor did the flee due to fear of death like those who fled to India did. It is this opportunistic avaricious group that are vociferous today and cannot be respected.

            Any ADULT Tamil who left SL and falls into this group are guilty of causing the birth of Child Soldiers. Any Tamil who left Lanka as a child and after reaching adulthood is today protecting those responsible for sending several generations of Tamil children to their death or to suffer lifelong disabilities is also guilty as much as their parents.

            You see Jansee I am not interested in knowing who is tied to your lap or you loins. It is your lap and your loin you can do whatever you want with them.

            The question I asked is why you are not campaigning to bring the WAR CRIMINAL who is responsible for killing and maiming several thousands of Tamil Children and who is living under your own nose, with the same fervor that you are campaigning to get ALLEGED war criminals who are out of reach at the moment and the foreseeable future?

            It appears to me that your War Crime war cry is not genuine. Are you a self serving opportunist like your parents?

            I hope to see an intelligent response, where you use FACTS to counter my arguments instead of the usual vituperative diatribe.

            I do hope big guns like TGTE’s senator, Usha S Sri Skander Rajah and POE member Ms Yasmin Sooka who writes to forums like GrundViews, will see this discussion and join us to exchange views. I also hope that others who has views like yours join in to expand the discussion.

            Kind Regards,
            OTC

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              Off the Cuff:

              Still no answer or trying to avoid the issue of KP, Karuna and Pillaiyan. They were sleeping in the same bed with the Rajapakse regime.

              And you still have not answered why a regime proclaiming and protesting the UN Panel went secretly through the backdoor to meet the Panel?

              Tell the truth and shame the devil. If the regime feels and believes as much as is innocent of the allegations of crime, why not let the UNHRC team into the country and make an independent assessment and evaluation. After all, it is against both the parties.

              There will be skeletons coming out of the closet with the regime change. In fact, if the new govt does conduct an independent and reliable/credible investigation and brings the culprits to book, I am all for it. While I doubt this will happen, if it is really open and credible, why not. Let me be clear, if ANY credible and an independent investigation is carried and establishes the truth with substantiated evidence, whichever way it goes, it will be welcome. It will give confidence to the Tamils and help to bridge the divide and heal the longstanding wounds. And I repeat, I am still sceptical as CKB too abdicated her impartial stand when she was the president.

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                Dear Jansee,

                You seems to have forgotten that it was you who challenged my comment addressed to Mr. Steven R. Ratner, Mr. Marzuki Darusman, Ms Yasmin Sooka and CT Readers. Hence you are free to address ANY issue that I have raised in my comment but I am no fool to extricate you from the quagmire that you stepped into by allowing you to go on a wild goose chase without addressing the argument I have made.

                My comment addressed the issue of CREDIBILITY of Ratner and his colleagues of the UNSG’s POE. I have clearly shown that the POE report that they signed is TAINTED by FRAUD and DECEIT. In support of my claim I have analysed sections 148 and 237 of their report and showed that from the start the UN has acted dishonorably and deceitfully.

                The first investigation was by UN’s special rapporteur on extra judicial killings Prof Philippe Alston. He “Authenticated” a doctored video put in the public domain by CH4. The “Experts” used by Prof Alston to “Authenticate” that video have been discredited in US courts and a Canadian Commission of inquiry. I supported what I wrote with video footage of US court proceedings and extracts from the Canadian Commission report.

                In contesting section 237, I used the ICC Statute itself to show how it was Prostituted by Ratner, Maruzuki and Sooka

                You made a complete fool of yourself by condemning the ICC and US and Canadian Justice systems as unreliable. You said quote ……… then blabber as “truth” whatever you have picked up from unreliable sources. unquote

                When irrefutable evidence is staring in her face, only a deranged one track mind would have been bold enough to make such a foolish claim without supporting evidence.

                You ask and I quote Tell the truth and shame the devil. If the regime feels and believes as much as is innocent of the allegations of crime, why not let the UNHRC team into the country and make an independent assessment and evaluation. unquote.

                The short answer is that the UN investigators who have done the preliminary investigations have proved to be in the LTTE Financiers pockets.

                They have prostituted the ICC Statute to EXONERATE the LTTE of a very serious War Crime, namely, that of using a Human Shield. Is that a characteristic of an Independent Impartial Investigation? It is this Human Shield that caused Civilian Deaths.

                Now argue your case to the contrary with facts and logic while providing references.

                After you do that I will respond to your Red Herring questions.

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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                  Off the Cuff:

                  You still haven’t answered my questions. Waffling around and writing volumes do not equate to the truth.

                  You are so passionate about credibility and truth but MR conducted a number of phony and sham inquiries. He asked the army to conduct one and it came out a cropper. The Trinco five murder and the 17 ACF murders are still “being investigated”. The Lasantha Wickramatunge murder seems to have finally see the light of the day. Only cowards and beasts commit that kind of heinous crimes. If SL had investigated in an independent and credible manner all these crimes, including the last stage of the war, unlike the phony ones) there would have been no necessity for an international probe. But with quacks like you who attempt to prevail because of numbers/majority within the country rather than seeking the truth, outside interference became necessary.

                  I am glad, very glad indeed, how irritated and angry the likes of you have become. More nails will be driven into the coffins of MR and GR. Look at their fates today. Our interest is to nail those who committed those atrocities and dastardly crimes, whatever it takes. So stop wasting your breath and time lecturing us. The present regime has it lease of life. If it lives up to its promise of investigating and nailing those who are guilty, then it will be good for SL and there will be meaningful reconciliation but if fools like you believe that these matters can be swept under the carpet, then the simmering fire will continue to burn.

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                    Dear Jansee and ALL Separatists who believe in the UNSG’s POE Report on Sri Lannka,

                    Jansee are you feigning ignorance or is your command of English actually insufficient to understand the written language?

                    My comment challenged UNSG’s POE Member Mr Steven Ratner’s comment to FP Magazine reported in this article by CT.

                    My Challenge was about the POE report that they produced which Misinterpreted and COMPLETELY distorted the ICC statute in order to EXONERATE the LTTE of the grave war crime of using Human Shields. They have done this in section 237 of their report.

                    No one has been able to disprove the above and you have not even attempted to do so. In fact you have consistently skirted the issue going around the Mulberry Bush ad infinitum.

                    I have also accused the POE of attempting to give credibility to a fabricated and trashy video produced and put in the Public Domain by CH4. They have done so in section 148 of their report by stating that the CH4 fabrication was “Authenticated”

                    I have provided UNIMPEACHABLE evidence that the UN’s Prof Philippe Alston used a PERJURER who committed perjury in a US Court (in a case similar to the type of execution depicted on CH4) and a CHARLATAN who in the opinion of a Canadian Commission of inquiry has ABSOLUTELY no expertise in human body movement and analysing such movement from a video.

                    Prof Philippe introduced them as “Experts with Integrity” in a fraudulent attempt at depicting the CH4 fabrication as authentic.

                    So much for the purported “authentication”.

                    The US Govt caught LTTE Financiers who attempted to unsuccessfully BRIBE US officials. Hence Bribe giving is no stranger to these financiers who are still living in total freedom.

                    Thus it is clear, that the people involved in producing the POE report exonerating a Terrorist Organisation, distorting even the ICC Statute in the process (the ICC is a UN body) and the people involved in “authenticating” a fabricated video have received an incentive so lucrative that they could not refuse. Four of these involved in the fraud are UN officials and the other two have falsified evidence in US and Canadian judicial proceedings.

                    Concede the above or disprove it and then we can move on to address all the Red Herring questions with which you are attempting to drown the TRUTH.

                    It is also very clear that you and others like you (see Mallaiyuran’s comment above and those of the TGTE on GV, CT etc) do not have a REAL interest in bringing Justice to the Tamil people who got affected by the war.

                    The FACT that NONE of you have raised your voice against the Female Hitler who sent thousands of Tamil Children to their Deaths now living in comfort right under your very nose is the Acid Test of your Humanitarian Concern.

                    It is also very strange to note that all the usually vociferous Tamils, who hunt war criminals, keeping away from this discussion.

                    You say “You are so passionate about credibility and truth but MR conducted a number of phony and sham inquiries”

                    Is that an admission that the the UN POE conducted a corrupt phony and sham inquiry like Mahinda? What is the logic here? Mahinda’s corruption excuses and absolves the UN corruption?

                    You say “I am glad, very glad indeed, how irritated and angry the likes of you have become.”

                    The contents of our comments reflects who is writing with anger. Who is dribbling vituperative rubbish like a saliva dribbling mad canine! I only had to touch on the subject of Opportunistic Cowards deserting Prabahkaran’s Eelam to set you off!!!

                    That is another Truth that you cannot stomach, like the protection you give Adele Bala, the killer of thousands of Tamil children.

                    You say “Waffling around and writing volumes do not equate to the truth”

                    I agree but your complete impotence to make a challenging counter argument supported with verifiable factual evidence proves that you are running away from the TRUTH.

                    Oozing and dribbling vituperative rubbish and attempting to summarily dismiss the ICC, US and Canadian judicial establishments does nothing to shake the evidence I produced against the Corrupt UN POE and a Corrupt UN Rapporteur.

                    Hence in your own words Stop “Waffling around and writing volumes” provide any verifiable evidence you have to counter what I have written about the UN process or concede with honour.

                    Good luck to you. Hope you can produce an intelligent comment the next time.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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                      Off the cuff:

                      In any case where there are expert witnesses appearing for the prosecution and defence, expressing their opinion on matters related thereto, the court may accept the evidence of one and that in any way does not diminish the credibility of the experts concerned. Only a diseased mind will assume the way you did. A former chief justice in SL have publicly admitted how he decided for MR based on not on the facts but his personal view. Those professionals are still in practice and have not been de-registered by the professional they belong. If that happens then, and only then, there can be questions raised on these professionals, ust like a doctor whose prescription is based on his reasonable and professional belief on the diagnosis he had made but turns out to be something else, something he could not have possibly forseen. So, you don’t lecture that crap to us if your faculties are too shallow to understand and are way beyond you.

                      As for the members of the panel led by Marzuki, incidentally he was on the experts panel called in by your Rajapakse on the experts team, another phony venture by a liar, and headed by a former Supreme Court Justice of India (Bhagwathi). The incriminating report that experts team gave before walking out of the charade is well known. Glad that he (Marzuki) was on the panel because he certainly knew the tricks of the Rajapakse regime. Coming from a banana republic with almost every other index about your shameful country in tatters, it is laughable you, of all persons, talk about credibility.

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                      Dear Jansee,

                      I have moved on as you are going around in circles without addressing the points I have raised. You tactic of drawing Red Herrings in order to avoid the question will not succeed.

                      This inability to directly address the question is seen in all your posts. That of course is an admission that you have nothing tangible to say

                      Here again is what I said in Summery for the benefit of any new readers.

                      ICC Statute
                      (xxiii) Utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations;

                      The LTTE used the PRESENCE of civilians to protect themselves.

                      However the UNSG’s POE exonerated the LTTE of that war crime disregarding the ICC Statute which is the International Law, vide POE report section 237.

                      Hence the UNSG’s POE is corrupt and most probably had been bribed by the current advocates of separation.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                    Jansee – Good night – may god bless you with logic – you can keep on day dreaming – we will see a different picture in the future – because the players are different now – do not waste your energy on writing crap – but try to do some meditation and try to develop some good human qualities – since LTTE is over there is no use of mad dogs now

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            Hey Jansey

            Biologically we all are animals – however our animal qualities are suppressed when we acquire skills to control them – through education – through religion – associating with people who already have acquire skills etc etc. – Unfortunately in your case I think you have not acquired skills and qualities through any of the above means as a result you behave like a puppy bitten by a Labrador – in your comments you just vomit what you may have heard from another idiot like you – no logic or facts – just crap —

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              Rabok:

              There weren’t any logic or reason from the majority Sinhalese when thousands of innocents were murdered by a ruthless regime. In fact, most of clapped hands and lit fireworks. How many times your conscience has pricked you for the crimes committed against fellow citizens in the name of the war against LTTE. The blood and tears of those innocent victims never awakened the collective conscience of a race and nation that ought to be ashamed of condemned. So, my dear Rabok, those animistic and beastly instincts from you people appear still intact and you want to lecture us. You can go to hell but whether I am a puppy or a grownup labrador, the bite will be incisive and clinical.

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          Sorry, I missed this becuase I am busy these days, I do not read all essays or all comments.

          What Kind of proof you are offering? Why did not Ranil sign the ICC accord? If ICC is not right why did you spent Chinese millions on American PR firms, influencing the American Government? Why would you want to do anything with America, even the GSP+? You guy does the begging in the night and boost a lot in the day time. Shameless Lanka. Lanka is worse than a prostitute.

          If Ranil thinks what he did was right, why he is saying he is going to offer support to OHCHR investigation.

          How the ICC becomes a prostitute when old and the New King has to be investigated, but not you people proposing to investigate LTTE?

          Please know this you half baked lawyer! 99.99999999% of the law you have studied is coming from the west. Spit out twice for that before you write something non sense like ICC stature are prostitution. There is nothing as Buddhist law in the world. All Roman, Christian based law.

          You try to pose that you corrupted Lanka has become hero in law. That how the King posed to show that he Lanka is the world third largest supper power that is managing India and China. Then when RAW showed its game, King ran out of the Temple tree in the midnight.

          ICC Stature are for advanced countries, where the meaning of the prostitutions is changing as poor woman’s job. Not rowdy countries try to avoid those issues of Human Rights, with Hipocratic lies. Lanka’s Buddhist gurus still preaching of prostitution as crime against Buddhism in the day time and sleep forcefully with those women in the night. You Lankan males not just prostitutes, your are ugly hypocrites too.

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    Here is some information on the White Flag incident:-

    http://white-flags.org/

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    How many times MR told the whole world about it ? There were only ZERO casuality…!

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      how many times-
      libyan style 2ft pipe and goota boots 1 meter.

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    U.S. war crimes ambassador stepping down in ‘frustration’
    Stephen Rapp pushed vigorously to prosecute Syrian regime atrocities, was thwarted by legal roadblocks
    By Michael Isikoff18 hours agoYahoo News http://news.yahoo.com/u-s–war-crimes-ambassador-stepping

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      Did you not ask him what his bank account is like and his 3rd home??
      Remember you american ambassador with a pedigree of diplomacy, well he said the same when it was too close to call about his sojourn during the war sl.

      Like all civil servants and politicos as when they lose the plot behave like (our own cj) try to catch choppers with their tongues.

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    So these tamils are saying their LTTE leaders came towards Sinhala army and pleaded for life?
    LOL!

    what pussies! were these the people you were calling veers or whatever

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