15 January, 2026

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Resuscitating Common Sense: A Reality Or A Futility Towards Reconciliation 

By Ariaratnam Gobikrishna

Ariaratnam Gobikrishna

Buddha statues, carved out of rock, stood so majestic and in repose; pillars of ornate carvings and stone inscriptions stood the test of time; Stupas patinaed with green moss mingled with Hindu temples; Moonstones and guard stones ushered into roofless cloisters—it was a grand tableau, displaying the glorious Buddhist past of Polonnaruwa. The temple troop macaques were all over, discriminating none. As a boy from Jaffna, during my school excursions, I used to be impartial too, succumbing to the awe and tranquility of the Buddhist sacred sites, but this time I felt different…not in terms of reverence and tranquility—that, I think, will never change—but I was skeptical…skeptical about taking things at face value. With that mindset, I meandered through the artifacts with the government designated tour guide who took me to the next rock carving—the statue of the great King Parakramabahu I,…a bare-bodied pot-bellied man holding palm-leaf manuscripts. That must have done it, I suppose, because my skeptical antenna wouldn’t stop firing from then on.

Next we spent some time in front of a temple—listening to our guide’s description—that it was supposedly shaped after the Buddhist temples of Cambodia that made me think about my guided tour of Angkor Wat. What a contrast: Cambodia…a distant land, people of different physical traits, yet the maritime cultural exchange and commerce had transplanted a Hindu culture that flourished before being transformed by the late arrival of Buddhism. The history was cogent and free-flowing, not omitting the influences from the Tamil Pallava and the Chola Kingdoms, and also the taboo elements of religious conflicts and usurpations. Conversion of Buddhist temples in India or Churches in Turkey or Mosques in Spain is no secret to the world history. But in Polonnaruwa facts were shrouded in secrecy: no word of Cholas who inaugurated and ruled Polonnaruwa for 53 years. None whatsoever about Hinduism or Tamil. Mind you, this was when one of the longest dynasties in history had reached its pinnacle— the Emperor Rajendra Chola’s reign. The largest navy of the time conquering distant lands in the far east; the largest standing army controlling most of India; The engineering marvels of ship building, irrigation and warfare. And of course bringing the whole island of Sri Lanka under one rule.

At the end of our tour my curiosity got the better of me so I had this dialogue with the tour guide, that I’m paraphrasing.

“I thought the Cambodian Kings were Hindus before they became Buddhists’” I asked.

“I don’t think so…I’m not sure”

“ How about Hinduism during Polanaruwa period’” I asked.

“It was always a part of Buddhism, ever since it came from North India’” he said.

“Any impact from Tamil invasions”

“very minimal…because those were always small incursions, easily repulsed” “I see a lot of Tamil words in Sinhala,” I asked.

“You will also see a lot of Portuguese words in Sinhala,“ he said.

“You said there was no significant influx from Tamil Nadu, so…how did that happen?,” I asked. “Oh!, Sinhalese Kings sometimes married Tamil Princesses; that had some influence“ “Based on your evidence, when do you think the Tamils came to Sri Lanka?,” I asked.

“During the Dutch time,“ he said.

“Really?”

“No doubt, we have evidence,“ he said.

Our guide was extremely courteous, delivered what he believed to be true facts and it was up to me to do factcheck and come to plausible conclusions and that’s exactly what I set out to do.

The next stop was Anuradhapura: The silhouette of the glowing white Ruwanwelisaya loomed under the midday sun that was punctuated by the movement of antlike figures. As the scene got magnified, it revealed that it was a Buddhist procession and its frontline comprised of a retinue of drummers—in Tamil we call “Parai”; it is an old Tamil tradition…fell out of favor in Temples and is now mostly confined to funerals. As I watched the drummers pass by, I couldn’t help wondering whether this was one of many hushed up ”missing“ links. Then I wandered into a Temple, where I saw this dramatic scene: the battle between Dutugemunu and Elara … Dutugemunu was portrayed as white and Elara black. That scene jolted my memory to an earlier incident, decades ago, at Peradeniya University. There, on many occasions, I was told that I looked Sinhalese. And one day I asked a fellow Sinhalese student what it meant and he said that the Sinhalese race was light-skinned because their ancestors came from North India and the Tamils were very dark because they were from Tamil Nadu. I’m yet to find evidence to substantiate this claim on skin color and every time I watch our cricket team—that I’ve been doing for the past four decades—I’m convinced otherwise. While ruminating about the skin color, the nearby Isurumuniya sculptures stared back at me the same way Mahabalipuram Pallava sculptures did—the men with threads crossing their bare bodies over left shoulders whispered a Hindu origin and the name Ishvara Muni.

The train journey from Colombo to Galle was wonderful. My wife and I were on the way to the literary festival. Taking a stroll inside Galle Fort was even more exhilarating. As we sauntered, I remembered reading about the missing fifth Shiva Temple of Galle, mentioned by many including Hindu Saints from Tamilakam, Ibn Battuta and Zheng He. I also remembered that Zheng He had made an offering to one of its deities and later with the arrival of the Portuguese the Temple complex was sacked. Coincidentally, Zheng He was being discussed in the media at that time. “Why was there a renewed interest in Zheng He whom we never heard about in our school history books?,” I wondered.

It was after the end of civil war. Optimism and jubilation were aplenty. So were Chinese investments —and the responsibility of singing their praises. And Zheng He’s visit to the island in 1409 was being compared against the “ largesse” pouring down from China. Zheng He’s visit could not have been described in a vacuum so one of two indelible events—the gifting of “Trilingual Plate of Galle”, and the deposing of the Kotte King—was briefly mentioned. Naturally the next question was “what is Trilingual Plate of Galle?”

To answer that question I made a visit to the Colombo Museum. And, soon enough, I too stumbled on the same question that was being debated in the media. Before going further, let me tell you about the “Trilingual plate of Galle” The plate has inscriptions in three languages, namely, Mandarin, Persian and Tamil, as an offering by Zheng He to the three Gods—Buddha, Allah and Vishnu—for the safe voyage. The hot topic of the moment was about the omission of Sinhala. One explanation given by the Chairman of Sri Lankan Tourism Board was that the languages might have been chosen due to their popularity among the travelers of the time. Another, from an Army personnel, that it could have been a genuine mistake—fair enough—and he then went onto conflate a recent incident that involved an omission of Tamil in name boards. My take on this is very simple.

The major rulers of the region of that time were Buddhist Ming Empire, Islamic Delhi Sultanate and Hindu South Indian Dynasties. And the King, Zheng He had deposed, was Vira Alekeswara—a descendant from Tamil Gampola kingdom of Alagakkonara of Kanchipuram—who ruled as a Buddhist king, VIjeyabahu IV. His clan had established Kotte kingdom, naming “Kotte” after a Tamil word for fort. So, for obvious reasons, Zheng He must have chosen the dominant court languages of the respective kingdoms. Otherwise, being a Muslim himself and fluent in Arabic, he would have chosen Arabic instead of Persian. (the dominant court language of the Indian Islamic empires was Persian) The Hindu God, to whom the offering was given in Tamil, was Tenavarai Nayanar, the Vishnu deity of the famed Temple complex of Galle, that had been recognized by many foreigners. The Tamil words describing the Gods, the Temples and the area are all denoting to mostly one thing — the Southern tip of the island, that later got corrupted by the invading Portuguese as Dondra.

We were in Kandy, the heart and soul of Buddhism in Sri Lanka. It drizzled when we stood in line to visit Sri Dalada Maligawa. While waiting, I thought about the long uninterrupted Kandyan heritage. “What made Kandy the last bastion against the European invasion—not one, but two—since 1505 until the overthrow of Sri Vikrama Rajasinha by the British in 1815?” I wondered. “How come, while rest of the country was undergoing Christianization, Theravatha Buddhism was kept unmolested in Kandy?” I queried. Quickly, I was able to glean through the information that was public knowledge and it was none other than the constant supply of nobility and warriors from Tamil and Nayaka Dynasties of Tamilakam, under whose leadership it was made possible. And as a consequence—no surprise—the court languages of the Kandyan Kingdom were Tamil and Sinhala. In other words, the Kandyan Buddhist Kingdom was preserved and protected by the Sinhalese and the Tamils. If you need a third party to confirm the fact that disparate communities lived together under a Tamil ruler, let’s bring this interesting figure, Robert Knox—the prototype(partially)for the famous figure in literature—Robinson Crusoe. Robert Knox spent 20 years in Kandy in captivity under Rajasinha II. So, naturally, he became fluent in Sinhala; so did Rajasinha II, a Tamil Kandyan King of Thanjavur Nayaka kingdom who had embraced Sinhala Buddhism as many of his predecessors did while being married to a Hindu Tamil as many of his predecessors were. (the practice goes back to Mahavamsa period)Robert Knox somehow escaped from Kandy, and with the help of the Dutch, went back to London. There he wrote a bestseller, in which he talked about Chingulays (Sinhalese),Malabars (Tamils) and Moors(Muslims) in Kandy. He also talked about his inability to communicate, on his escape through Anuradhapura, because the language spoken there was Tamil.

I was back in my hometown, Jaffna. And the Buddhist site near Kantharodei was on my mind, that I had frequented as a boy. But things were not the same when I visited recently. Kathrugoda Ancient Viharaya, as it’s known now, had an army sentry along with information that I was ignorant about.

The current narrative about the archaeological site states that Buddhism came to Jaffna from Anuradhapura and the towns it flourished in Jaffna were all Sinhalese and the subsequent Tamil intrusion not only erased its existence but corrupted the village names by Tamilization. The Sinhalese historians cite Devanampiya Tissa’s conversion to Buddhism and three visits of Lord Buddha to the island, recorded in Mahavamsa, as evidence. First of all, there was no Sinhala language during Devanampiya Tisa’s period. And,secondly, the visit of Buddha to Manipallavam island( Sri Lanka) to diffuse a dispute is the main theme of Manimekalai—one of 5 great Tamil Epics (the remaining 4 Epics are steeped in Jainism and Buddhism as well)—written by Chithalai

Satthanar … a Tamil Buddhist monk who lived in Tamilakam. It’s common knowledge that Buddhism existed in Northern Sri Lanka but unfortunately it met the same fate as in South India when Hindu revival took the upper hand. And South India, for that matter, is studded with places of Buddhist worship and excavation sites as evidence in plain sight. Places like Amaravati, Nagarjunakonda in Andhra Pradesh; Kanchipuram, Nagapattinam in Tamil Nadu; and Muziris in Kerala are well known for their storied Buddhist past. As a matter of fact the Chinese President Xi Jinping’s recent visit to Mahabalipuram reinforces the importance of Kanchipuram and its port vis-a’-vis the ancient maritime cultural exchange between China and Tamilakam and that includes the many famous Buddhist scholars as well. If Buddhism could have gone to faraway places from Kanchipuram it certainly could have come to Jaffna. In fact the travel routes of many Buddhist scholars originated from Kanchipuram to many faraway destinations including China, Japan and Indonesia and the scholars Vajrabodhi’s and Buddhaghosa’s certainly coursed through Sri Lanka, leaving everlasting impact. Consequently, Tamils were Buddhists and Jains in Jaffna, but during the height of Bhakti movement, converted back to Hinduism and later during Portuguese period to Catholicism and even later during Dutch period back to Hinduism or to Protestantism. (Prime Minister Solomon West Ridgeway Dias Bandaranaike’s ancestry is a microcosm of this Sri Lankan social evolution) For Sinhalese and Tamils alike, language had no sway over what religion they followed in a given time.

Furthermore, I also delved into the facts pertaining to the demise of Buddhism and Jainism in Tamil

Nadu and Northern Sri Lanka during the Bhakti movement of Saivam and Vaishnavam. Jainism and Buddhism at their initial stages proposed renunciation practices, namely, food donation for the poor, refuge for the helpless, eduction for the masses and medical assistance for the public. They were against the deep-rooted caste system. (All good stuff) They were very popular among the masses for obvious reasons and also for the clever usage of the Tamil language( origin of great Tamil epics) as opposed to Sanskrit, the liturgical language of Hindu priestly class. But the ascetics were relentless in keeping the practices—and the public, over time, found them too rigid and difficult to keep. And also they didn’t sit well with the rulers and the upper echelon. So the upcoming Bhakti movement swept across easily, swaying the rulers first and the disgruntled public later, and also by weaponizing Tamil in public debates, (a short lull from Sanskrit) and as an unintended consequence, we are left with some of the best Tamil poetry and literature. I have a hunch that this must have pushed the ardent Tamil Buddhists towards Anuradhapura to stay away from Hinduism and the newly minted flowery Tamil in particular—and the rest is history.

Basically what I have tried to do, so far, through the examples of my recent travels, is that I have highlighted the obvious contradictions in our shared history. My intension is not to favor one community over the other, but to create a paradigm shift in our thought process. To see what the picture will look like if we—both the majority and the minorities — view it through unbiased lens. So, I think, if you look at the history through unbiased lens you will see a clear picture. A picture of two large groups evolving from waves of migration—mostly from South India—slowly turning into a Buddhist predominance from an initial Hindu-Buddhist codominance; likewise, turning into a Sinhala predominance from Tamil-Sinhala codominance. It must have been a slow process, going back and forth, over many centuries like what took place in the formation of Kerala, but preferring Buddhism. Time and again, the Tamil Kings seemed to have adopted not only the names of the nobility but the language and the religion that came with it and large swaths of the population must have followed suit. This phenomenon is well documented during Portuguese period due to its relatively recent history—in relation to the adoption of a new religion. The reasons for adoption would have been many: sometimes of one’s own volition, for example, for the nobility and for the voluntary ethnic/ religious converts. But many a times it would have been by inducements, coercion and by sheer threats to the lives and livelihood.

Having said that, let’s look at the two parallel narratives that had caused this great chasm in the first place and subsequently the bloody civil war. The Sinhalese claim that they’ve inhabited the whole island for at least 2500 years—via continuous migration from North India for two millennia—and somehow, despite their valiant efforts, Tamils have encroached their lands illegally. Their theory, from the outset, allows only Tamil Princesses and their entourage and the children of Emperor Ashoka to disembark at the Northern shores and then continues to restrict, throughout the history, everyone except people of North Indian descent. It also conveniently glosses over all the Tamil Kingdoms that existed from time immemorial, including the ones admitted in Mahavamsa itself. In fact, I was chuckling, while reading some pieces, vehemently arguing for punitive measures against Jaffna Tamils for not preserving Buddhist artifacts, written by Sinhalese who still carry Portuguese names. The Tamils, on the other hand, claim that they are the original inhabitants of the island and the Sinhalese—a race from North India of Indo-Aryan origin—invaded and made them the minority by devious means; so, with the help of Tamil Nadu, they should carve out at least 1/3 of the island for Eelam. They also feel that they, with their relatively large population in the world, deserve a country of their own. Their slogan is “Is it wrong to think that once mighty rulers, always rulers?”. Due to these deeply rooted convictions, both communities refuse to even entertain the possibility that all these different communities, existing now, could have evolved from one another.

So, as an effort to break the stalemate, I thought, we should bring science to the rescue—the DNA analysis in particular. But unfortunately we have very few studies, mostly done by Sri Lankans, that hover over the theory of origin—the arrival of Prince Vijaya from Northwestern India. So I searched for an independent study that dealt with the reality on the ground, namely, the magnitude of shared genetic footprint among current populations inside and outside of Sri Lanka. And I found one that was surprisingly popular among the Sri Lankan media as well. It was done by Professor Gautam Kumar Kshatriya of the University of Delhi .

What his study revealed is very interesting so I reproduce the results verbatim to avoid being accused of spinning the facts. It states that………………..

the present-day Sinhalese and Tamils of Sri Lanka are closer to Indian Tamils and South Indian Muslims. They are farthest from Veddahs and quite distant from Gujaratis and Punjabis of northwest

India and Bengalis of northeast India. The study of genetic admixture revealed that the Sinhalese of Sri Lanka have a higher contribution from the Tamils of southern India (69.86% ± 0.61) compared with the Bengalis of northeast India (25.41% ± 0.51), whereas the Tamils of Sri Lanka have received a higher contribution from the Sinhalese of Sri Lanka (55.20% ± 9.47) compared with the Tamils of India (16.63% ± 8.73). Similarly, the Bengali contribution is 28.17% and that of the Indian Tamils is 16.63%.

In conclusion, the original inhabitants of Sri Lanka were the Veddahs, who have had little admixture with the Sinhalese and possibly none with the Tamils. The Veddahs are distinct because they were confined to inhospitable dry zones and were hardly influenced by the neighboring inhabitants. Furthermore, the Sinhalese and the Sri Lankan Tamils are an admixed population genetically. The Sinhalese, who first came from northwest India under the leadership of Prince Vijaya in 543 B.C., have received and exchanged a substantial amount of their genes with the populations of northeastern and southern India. The Sinhalese and the Tamils have no contribution from the population groups of northwest India. In fact, the contribution made by Prince Vijaya and his small band of 700 companions to the original pool of the Sinhalese must have been eliminated by the long-standing contribution (over 2000 years) of the population groups of northeastern and southern India.

I thought the matter is settled once and for all because the results and the analysis not only answer the perennial question unequivocally, but also jibe with common sense. “Oh boy!, I couldn’t have been more wrong”. Not that the study was ignored—on the contrary, the Sinhalese literati paid so much attention and praise but at the end the only thing that was visible to their eyes was the Bengali contribution. As usual they picked and chose what suited for their narrative, but this time they latched onto the maternal side story of Prince Vijaya from Bengal in lieu of the Northwestern origin. The Tamils were silent about the Sinhalese and the Bengali contributions as well. The message though was loud and clear: despite our bloody recent past, each community, particularly the majority, is gung ho on delegitimizing the other at any cost. The majority Sinhalese will take anything but Tamil from South India as their true origin and the minority Tamils won’t take anything but Tamil from South India—from whom they have become genetically distant. So, in this milieu, even the science can’t come to the rescue. Unless people are willing to see the truth as is and the destruction it wrought for not doing so, nothing can sway them towards reality—they will always remain in the clouds of their hopeless fantasies.

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    In 992 (10 AD), Mumudi Rajaraja Cholan (Rajadiraja the great) conquered Sri Lanka by sending a huge army through sea and captured the Anuradhapura Kingdom in the North of Sri Lanka. His rule lasted till 1017 AD. After him, his son Rajendra Chola captured the entire island and added it to the sovereignty of Chola Empire. For almost 80 years (AD992 to AD1070) the Cholas (From Rajaraja Chola to Kulothunga Chola) ruled the island nation before being overthrown by Vijayabahu, a rebellion from Ruhunu who eventually defeated the Chola king Kulottunga to take over the Polonnaruwa Kingdom. Having liberated the whole island from Chola rule, Vijayabahu crowned himself king.
    It was the longest Chola rule in Sri Lanka (78 years) starting from the Northern capital kingdom of Anuradhapura from AD 992 – 1017 (25 years) which was named as Mummudi Chola Mandalam and then shifted the capital kingdom to Polonnaruwa and ruled from AD1018 – 1070 (53 years). It was the Chola King Rajendra who shifted the Capital from Anuradhapura to Polonnaruwa and named it as Jananathapuram.
    Siva temples were the highlight during Chola period. The most prominent of them was at Jananathamangalam which was named as Vanavanmadevi Iswarem after the queen of Rajaraja. The Cholas are also believed to have also reconstructed the Buddhist temples and expanded some of them such as Velgam Vihare in Trincomalee district.
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      Sri Lanka remained a South Indian (Chola) colony under the rule of Rajaraja Chola and his son Rajendra Chola. The island became one of the nine provinces of the Chola Empire and was called Eelam Mandalam. During that 78 years period there were no other kingdoms in any other parts of Sri Lanka other than some petty chieftains and rebellion generals organizing in the South. The king who ruled the capital kingdom was the only king of the country.
      A militant by the name Kirti (believed to descend from a royal family) who spent his early days in the jungles of Ruhuna started his military career at the age of seventeen was proclaimed under the name Vijayabahu. After nineteen years of ceaseless campaigning and bitter/fierce battles, Vijayabahu with his strong forces succeeded in capturing Polonnaruwa and expelling the Cholas.
      The Chola inscription in Tamil in the South Indian temple (Tanjavur Brihadhiswara Temple Inscription) calls the Singalas of Eelam Mandalam as warlike people who possessed rough strength.
      [Please note that the Mahavamsa doesn’t say there were any other kings or kingdoms in Ruhunu or any other parts of Sri Lanka during the Chola rule from AD 992 – 1070. Some petty chieftains and rebellion militants were reorganizing in the South to recapture the capital kingdom.]
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        [Only when the Chola king Elara was ruling the Northern kingdom of Anuradhapura, there was a Southern kingdom at Ruhuna ruled by king Kavantissa, the two kingdoms were separated by the Mahaweli river.]
        After the Northern capital kingdom of Anuradhapura and later the Eastern capital kingdom of Polonnaruwa ended with Kalinga Magha, he established the Jaffna kingdom in 1215 AD under the name Koolangai Singai Aryan. The people who spoke Sinhala and/or practiced Buddhism moved to the South and created their Kingdoms in Kandy, Kotte, and many other places in the South such as Dambadeniya, Kurunegala, Yapahuwa, Panduwasnuwara, Gampola, Raigama and Sitawaka. On the other hand, the people who spoke Tamil and/or practiced Hinduism moved from Anuradhapura and Polonnaruwa to the North & East and created their Kingdom in Jaffna. A separate Jaffna kingdom (1215-1624 CE) was established for the Tamils. This is the very first time in the history of Sri Lanka, separate Sinhala and Tamil Kingdoms in the South and North began only after the Anuradapura/Polonurawa kingdoms were abandoned. Before that, the kingdoms of Anuradhapura/Polonnaruwa were never known as a Sinhala kingdom or a Tamil kingdom.
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          Even when Sapumal Kumara aka Chempaha Perumal from the Kotte kingdom who later became Bhuvanekabahu VI (the adopted son of Parakrama Bahu VI) captured the Jaffna Kingdom in 1450, it was not annexed to the kingdom of Kotte. It was governed as a separate Kingdom. According to Tamil tradition, Sapumal constructed the Kandaswamy Kovil as a temple of royal court at Nallur. He had also issued coins in the name of the Tamil God. The Tamils of Jaffna are still invoking his name and singing thevarams to him in the Nallur Kovil before the temple procession of Lord Murukan.
          However, in the 16th century, when the Portuguese came to the island, it was clearly divided into two linguistic zones. There was the kingdom of Jaffna in the North and in the East there were the principalities of the Vanni, occupied chiefly by the Tamils. They were all Tamil speaking. The Portuguese and Dutch chroniclers confirm it

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          “…he established the Jaffna kingdom in 1215 AD under the name Koolangai Singai Aryan. The people who spoke Sinhala and/or practiced Buddhism moved to the South and created their Kingdoms in Kandy, Kotte, and many other places in the South such as Dambadeniya, Kurunegala, Yapahuwa, Panduwasnuwara, Gampola, Raigama and Sitawaka. “
          Interesting.
          So the Sinhalayo were all concentrated in the north!
          I wonder where Ruhuna was located.

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          “This is the very first time in the history of Sri Lanka, separate Sinhala and Tamil Kingdoms in the South and North”
          Who the hell is Elara then?

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      Thank you AG.

      Lanka Canuck

      According to the former Judge, Chief Minister of the Northern Provincial Council and the current Member of Parliament C. V. Wigneswaran
      “Wigneswaran claims that the Tamil history of Sri Lanka has been stolen by the Sinhalese people. If this is the case, how can reconciliation be achieved? We can all agree that theft of one’s history and identity by the other is no way to achieve any everlasting reconciliation between the two parties.

      He also claims that the Sinhalese people are immersed in a sea of myths about their history. Therefore he considers teaching the true history of the country especially to the Sinhala Buddhist brothers as a service he should fulfill. Accordingly, Wigneswaran has pointed out the ‘true’ history of the Sinhalese people on several occasions. He argues “The Sinhala people have been given a wrong understanding of history based on the fiction written in Pali by a Buddhist Priest in the 5th Century AD. The author says that at the end of every stanza he was writing the fiction for the glorification of Buddhism. If he was writing history he would not have said so!””

      “Sinhalese came by their Sinhala language only in the 6th or 7th Century AD. That is 1300 or 1400 years ago only.

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        Found some good company, eh.
        Enjoy the story telling!

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      The Cholas conquered all they say.
      But Tamilnadu remained enslaved by aliens for centuries, and is sill under ‘Aryan’ rule. is it not?

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        “and is sill under ‘Aryan’ rule. is it not?”

        Aryan rule?

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    I believe following study is the one that is being quoted here: Kshatriya, Gautam Kumar. “Genetic affinities of Sri Lankan populations.” Human Biology, vol. 67, no. 6, Dec. 1995, pp. 843+.
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    Author of this article on CT states: “So I searched for an independent study that dealt with the reality on the ground, …” – I wonder how he established the ‘independence’ of the study or was he nerely letting his own biases do the selection. Anyway that’s an incidental argument.
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    More importantly genetic studies may reveal the underlying genetic diversity of a population under study, but they in my view do not necessarily reveal how the revealed genetic diversity occurred. That has to be constructed using other sources of history.
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    The author, Professor Kumar David has previously written on the same topic here on CT, quoting the results of the same study, and he had the following to say:
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    “One startling discovery was that Demalas are Sinhalayas, not the other way round! OK I’m dramatising to get your attention; let me explain.”
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    Will leave you at that interesting thought… one that has a slightly different undertone.
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      Post Script…
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      And here’s Professor Kumar David’s piece I forgot to share above:
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      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-sinhala-tamil-cross-pollinated-siblings/
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      It must also be noted that Gautum Kumar’s study is somewhat old and there are a couple of others published since then, that provides additional, slightly different results, but without challenging the overall findings, that there are more South Indian genes in Sinhalese and they and Tamils are genetically closer than one would expect.

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        Hello Ruchira,

        The author quoted from a 1995 report. Given the huge strides taken in Genetics since then I would consider this disingenuous at least. Perhaps Colombo Telegraph could invite Genetic Researchers to provide some context to the various studies that have been done?
        Here is a recent study (2021) that states that – “When analysed together with other 14 world populations, all Sri Lankan ethnicities except Indian Tamils clustered closely with populations from Indian Bhil tribe, Bangladesh and Europe reflecting their shared Indo-Aryan ancestry.”
        https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/X-chromosomal-STR-based-genetic-polymorphisms-and-Perera-Galhena/cc605a35ddacfa950f38b89055111ba6eb1d94e2

        I always like to examine the original reports/papers and try to understand their motives, extent of their data and whether the conclusions they reach are tenable. Academic disagreements are a fact of life in science and can be contentious, where there are significant opposing opinions.

        Best regards

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          LankaScot,
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          “Given the huge strides taken in Genetics since then I would consider this disingenuous at least.”
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          It looks like he cherry picked a study to avoid bias! Quite an ironic thing to do. Or even oxymoronic I’d say.
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          You have also said: “Perhaps Colombo Telegraph could invite Genetic Researchers to provide some context to the various studies that have been done?”
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          Strangely I have been thinking the same. Given that CT has been giving quite a lot of space for this line of thought, it’s only fair that they get a professional to write a piece or two clarifying the findings – how to interpret them in the context of history in lay terms sans the scientific jargon.
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          I may have access to some of the local co-authors of some of the joint studies published, will give it some thought and see if I can get one of them to write to CT.
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          But first will have to find out how it works – writing to CT, that is, and their permission for such an initiation.
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          LankaScot – Academic disagreements and contentions are one thing, cherry picking a study to prove a point is another. The author shows some sophistication in writing but I lost all faith once realized that he seemed to have succumbed to his own biases in cherry picking an ‘independent’ study. That’s far from a just discourse. I also wonder what the measure of independence he used in the process?

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        Ruchira,

        “but without challenging the overall findings, that there are more South Indian genes in Sinhalese and they and Tamils are genetically closer than one would expect.”

        First one should define “South Indian.” If the implication of “South Indian” is “Dravidian”, then one should examine the genetics of “Dravidian.” The author let out a Freudian slip of sorts: “And one day I asked a fellow Sinhalese student what it meant and he said that the Sinhalese race was light-skinned because their ancestors came from North India and the Tamils were very dark because they were from Tamil Nadu.”

        Skin color can be deceptive, but there is some truth to the observation that lighter-skinned “Dravidians” tend to have some influence from Brahmins. For example, consider this lady: https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mass-spiritual-movement-for-tamil-eelam/. Clearly she is not a “pure” Dravidian the way that Periyar would have imagined. Now, where did these Brahmins come from? North India. If “pure Dravidians” do not exist, then calling Sinhalese “South Indians” is factually incorrect.

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          Lester – Yes there are many nuances and complexities that genetic studies do not reflect, that goes into the present day genetic make up of a population. Using such studies to make sweeping generalisations by some like this author needs addressing.

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            Ruchira,

            And we have to be careful about what conclusions we draw from these genetic studies. I saw one study that says the genome of “American Blacks” (people with African ancestors) in the USA is 24% European. It would be insulting to call them “European” given the history of slavery and discrimination in that region.

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              Lester – Yes, I agree. It doesn’t matter from where the Sinhalese came or who their ancestors were, a fact that may change how far into history one wants to go back, as all sapiens came from Africa, and they have common ancestors with apes. What is important is, that as of the present day, Sinhalese is a community with a distinct language and a distinct identity, that is indegenous to Sri Lanka. Whether they came from North, South, West or East India is irrelevant neither whether their language is based on Tamil or Sanskrit.

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                Ruchira,

                In regards to language, answering that question tells us something about the ancestors. The evolution follows this pattern: Old-Indo-Aryan stage represented by Sanskrit (C.2000-800 B.C.) and the Middle-Indo-Aryan stage represented by Prakrit(C. 800 B.C.-400) whose best representative is Pali, the language of the Buddhist scriptures. Pali, Pakrit, and Sanskrit provided the main influence. Of course there are Tamil words in Sinhala (around 900 from sources I have examined) as well as Portugese and probably Dutch. The Tamil, Portugese and Dutch influence on the language came much later. There are other interesting questions that can be asked, e.g. why does the Sinhala script resemble the Telugu script? This leads us to another observation, that in fact, all Indian languages, including Tamil, were heavily influenced by Sanskrit. At least the early evolution of the Sinhala language is consistent with Mahavamsa, e.g. people from Bengal settled on the island. People who spoke a North Indian dialect. One cannot use genetic studies to discredit Mahavamsa, as all the genetic studies appeared less than 100 years ago.

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                  Lester – Thanks for that bit about the history of Sanskrit and Prakrit. I do agree that genetic studies do not provide evidence of past events itself, though multiple authors here have or tried to have made sweeping generalisations allegedly based on findings of genetic studies, I think just to provide and air of scientific validity to their claims, but in my view only to jeopardise their very cause. Everything that appears in Mahawamsa may not be true and there may be many truths that do not appear in Mahawamsa. There will always be limitations in reconstructing history. It is not the challenge of historical accounts given in Mahawamsa that is troubling, but the racial undertones and various other insinuations with which it is done – a behaviour and a practice that most here attribute to Mahawamsa believing Sinhala Buddhists but they themselves too are guilty of resorting to in response, that is not going to lead us anywhere fruitful. That said given your knowledge and understanding of Mahawamsa and history, why don’t write about them to Colombo Telegraph fot formal publication, as a rebuttal to the critics of Mahawamsa?

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                    Ruchira,

                    You are correct, “Mahavamsa” is not 100% accurate. Example: while Lord Buddha is dying, he says Buddhism will flourish in Sri Lanka thanks to Vijaya. What we know for sure is that Buddhism was nearly wiped out in India as a result of Vedic Brahminism. So Mahanama and other monks felt they had an obligation to preserve “Theravada Buddhism” in Sri Lanka. That is the purpose of Mahavamsa, to glorify this tradition. I don’t see any racism here. “Damilas” were a real people – Cholas – who attempted to invade the island on numerous occasions. Had they succeeded outright, “Sri Lanka” would be a Hindu vassal state of India. If you are familiar with the “Bible”, in the first portion, the “Jews” are “Chosen” by “God.” He/she rewards them by continually destroying their enemies. Similarly in “Varna system”, Brahmins are created from the mouth of Brahma and Shudras (low-caste) are created from the feet. In the Manu Smriti it is written that a Shudra who even reads Vedas deserves severe punishment. Later on, Heinrich Himmler came to admire the caste-system and compared the SS to Kshatriyas. So you can see Buddhism is rather tame by comparison.

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                      Lester,
                      .
                      Yes. I can appreciate that.
                      .
                      While racism exists to various degrees in many cultures, there is a serious concerted effort here by some, to portray Sinhalese, particularly Buddhists, collectively as racists.
                      .
                      And that this racism is a historical fact coming from the days and reflected in the writings of Mahawamsa..
                      .
                      On top of that there seem to be a serious effort to find fault with the accepted narration of the country’s history including a trend of quoting DNA studies, and attributing the errors in the accepted version of history to racism.
                      .
                      Even the simple case of change in language policy in 1956 is purely viewed through a racial lense, without any appreciation of the fact that Sinhalese felt that long standing policies of the colonial masters worked against the betterment of them, the majority, in favour of the minority. .
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                      Whether this was a conscious effort by the colonialists or an incidental outcome of their rule I wouldn’t know.
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                      Anyways thanks for your input.

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                      Ruchira,

                      Yes, it is rather bizzare, to claim that the majority group in Sri Lanka engaged in “genocide” or collective racism against Tamils. In < 200 words:

                      (1) The caste system in Jaffna was (and still is) highly discriminatory
                      (2) Sinhala-Only (don't support personally)… in Norway, the main language is Norwegian, in Sweden, Swedish, in Poland, Polish. Is it essential that a "link" language be created to appease every minority?
                      (3) Standardisation… this policy actually hurt wealthier urban Sinhalese, as those in outstations were accepted to university with a lower cutoff. Other countries: India has "reservation", USA has "affirmative action"
                      (4) Race riots: USA, UK, France have these regularly. The minorities don't ask for a separate state
                      (5) Political representation: Tamils were never denied political representation. There is a difference between political representation and secession

                      I could go on. The main problem in Sri Lanka has little to do with race, it is lack of economic opportunity. It is different, in say, Israel. There, the Israeli Jews are waiting (salivating) to live in Muslim land, and vice-versa. What Sri Lanka needs is an educated *secular* middle class (all ethnic groups), which is a strong buffer against institutional corruption.

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                      Lester – Yes, can agree with the points you have enumerated #1 through #5, in your last comment (I can’t reply to it directly for some reason. Hence I am replying here)
                      .
                      Especially the standardisation which has left many victims of all ethnicities including Sinhalese. Infact I believe mostly Sinhalese as they are the majority. Yet it is seen as a racist thing.
                      .
                      I also agree that cast mindedness seems to be more in N&E. May get even intesified if devolution of power in the form of a Tamil federal state were to be formed.
                      .
                      What I see here is a reflection how Tamils have been portraying Sinhalese for decades collectively as a racist group, intrinsically hostile to them. Having born and lived in the south (as opposed to the north) alongside Tamils, Muslims, Burghers and Christians, this is not my lived personal experience.
                      .
                      The very fact that Tamils can openly express these sentiments here on Colombo Telegraph attests to the level of tolerance that prevails, that appears to be absent for the Sinhalese opinions.
                      .
                      Reconciliation may not be possible with such an attitude among Tamils. It if at all, it I believe is a two way street.
                      .
                      Valued your input. Keep up the good work.

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                  “Sanskrit (C.2000-800 B.C.)…Prakrit(C. 800 B.C.-400)”
                  All post-Vedic Brahminist literature was composed in Prakrit?
                  Very Interesting!

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                  Lester,
                  Lately some of your thoughts have been caught up in progress that was not there in the past. Human evolution is unstoppable and yours is a fact for that.
                  Thank you for that. Even Juliyampitiya Amaraya (Rajapakshe family’s killing dog) became normal after he distanced himself from Mahendra Rajapaksa.
                  .
                  Good to see that you now have the audacity to admit that Rajapakse stole state wealth and put it in offshore accounts. You who have been brainwashed by the Rajapakse theory will never see it right. That’s why I was surprised to see it like that.
                  .
                  At the same time, you dilute the unique, person specific damage done by the Rajapaksa brutes by attacking CBK for doing the same.

                  Bandaranaike (Real Walawwa people) and Rajapakse (fake Walawwa rodias) are completely different families.World knows it but sinhala-supremacists dont seem to know it, for some malice and enviousness.

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                    cont.
                    The fact is that CBK has produced two children who are doctors in the UK. They are so decent individuals. I have met them once in UK.
                    They would never come to continue their dynasty. That is a fact.
                    Did you know that doctors in the UK are better paid than anywhere else in Europe?
                    So why on earth are you accusing them of having bought palaces with stolen money during the CBK administration ?????
                    . There is no proof of that. However, in order to assassinate her character and gain more attention from gallery, Rajapakse was spreading more lies than the proven facts. Now almsot everyone is attacking THE DOG OF THE NATION also on his face….. see how Dittadamnawedaneeya boomerang on him ?
                    As a result, many people today are like 4-leg animals that cant follow the facts. It is difficult for them to understand that the Rajapaksas are sucking the last blood of the srilankens.
                    That is all becuase DA Rajapakshe lost somewhere in educating his children. Not a single person in that brutal family is said to be away from high crimes.

                    CBK children can well afford to buy their luxury homes and other properties like we do in Central Europe. I know some families close to CBK’s children, they are well brought up children, you cannot compare with the BASTARD sons of that murderer Mahendra Rajapaksa.

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                      Hello Leela,

                      Since you asked, it is easy to prove that CBK owns property in the UK. I will use publicly disclosed information. The correspondence address for the “CBK Foundation for Democracy and Justice” is listed at 11 Kreisel Walk, Richmond, England, TW9 3AL. CBK has listed herself as “Director” with the occupation of “Economist.” The value of this property is at least £750,000. ($933000 USD). See here: https://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/tw9/kreisel-walk.html. Kriesel Walk is a high-end residential area. It looks like CBK has another property in California, USA (https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_ca/4579899) with the value of $1,975,000 USD. It seems that CBK foundation is listed as a “charity” or “non-profit” to avoid taxes.

                      Regarding corruption of MaRa, it is well known. Not the bro’s themselves, but the associates and family. Children driving luxury cars, Basil’s land deals, etc. Gotha served in the military for 20 years. That is not the occupation of a “hora.” Unlike CBK, born as an elite, came back from Sorbonne to loot the country.

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                      Lester the jester,

                      The question that arose from your original comment above was whether CBK equally stole public money. I added a counter statement to it that CBK’s children as DOCTORs will be able to buy rich houses anywhere.
                      Now that you have added links that some may have put in the PUBLIC domain in favor of RAJAPAKSHE propaganda,. Who do you want to fool further ? Stupid readers again?

                      Even that senior journalist Victor Ivan succumbed to the huge sum of money offered by Basil Kaputha to publish the book titled “Chaura Rajina aka Bandit Queen”.
                      When the Beast destroyed this country every day from morning to evening, that same journalist kept his mouth shut ?????? how come ?
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                      That’s why I said this country has been led astray by SLANKEN media fraudsters and con artists.
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                      to lester again,
                      Mahinda Paraya tamed anyone to grab the top mandate and destroyed the nation so far. However, today everything is gradually coming to light.. and there is no doubt that Paraya will not be able to enjoy his last moments in peace.

                      At least now you slave type who always believed that the mare didn’t steal, have come to the state of “yes the mare has done it bigger manner”… I see that as some progress in your community.

                      Next time please, if you add a link, please give us the actual link with all the information. Thank you.

                      And, in the next few days, more scoundrels will be ready to hang similar links to tarnish Ranil’s image. But now we see, he represents the country well in Uganda so that the world leaders can exchange with us, the most bankrupt nation in the South Asian region. Many might have thought that this country would sink like a rocket directed to downwards.

                      He doesn’t care much about insults because he has nothing to protect from him.Mlechcha nation has attacked him as nothing can reverse. It is the nature of lower level of journalists in Sri Lanka. I do not trust any media from Sri Lanka. Today even social media in SL are not reliable at all.

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                      Leela the slow-brained,

                      Not all UK doctors are millionaires. Certainly not the veterinarian son of CBK. CBK was found guilty of fraud by the SUPREME COURT in the Water’s Edge case:

                      “The court made this judgement in regard to a fundamental rights application lodged by several Petitioners against the former president, Chandrika Kumaratunga Bandaranaike, the Asia Pacific Golf Course Ltd, Urban Development Authority (UBA), the Board of Investment (BoI) and several directors named in the petition. The court ordered the former president to pay Rs 3 million, a businessman, Ronnie Peries Rs 2 million and three others to pay Rs 1 million each as compensation to the state.”

                      You are hung up on her children being doctors. Medical school is very expensive in the UK. More than the salary of the SL President. You have to explain how CBK paid for it. Before Lasantha, there was Rohana, who accused CBK of corruption. “On the evening of 7 September 1999, Rohana Kumara, Editor of Satana (“Battle”), a Sinhalese-language weekly newspaper, was murdered while going in a trishaw (three wheeler taxi) within 50 metres of his home in a suburb of Colombo. “

                      Anyway, I was in SL during CBK time. Daily power cuts, even water cuts, military losing battles. After each loss, CBK tried to cover it up by imposing a media blackout. Checkpoints everywhere, as LTTE terrorized Colombo.

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                      Leela the slow-brained,

                      Not all UK doctors are millionaires. Certainly not the veterinarian son of CBK. CBK was found guilty of fraud by the SUPREME COURT in the Water’s Edge case:

                      “The court made this judgement in regard to a fundamental rights application lodged by several Petitioners against the former president, Chandrika Kumaratunga Bandaranaike, the Asia Pacific Golf Course Ltd, Urban Development Authority (UBA), the Board of Investment (BoI) and several directors named in the petition. The court ordered the former president to pay Rs 3 million, a businessman, Ronnie Peries Rs 2 million and three others to pay Rs 1 million each as compensation to the state.”

                      You are hung up on her children being doctors. Medical school is very expensive in the UK. More than the salary of the SL President. You have to explain how CBK paid for it. Before Lasantha, there was Rohana, who accused CBK of corruption. “On the evening of 7 September 1999, Rohana Kumara, Editor of Satana (“Battle”), a Sinhalese-language weekly newspaper, was murdered while going in a trishaw (three wheeler taxi) within 50 metres of his home in a suburb of Colombo. “

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                    Leela,

                    “Good to see that you now have the audacity to admit that Rajapakse stole state wealth…”

                    I never denied it. If you see my past posts on CT, I clearly said, by ending the war, Raja has increased the GDP of the country significantly. The amount that the government has to borrow to finance the war is much more than several generations of Raja could loot. As an example, refer to the national debt of the USA (#1 military machine) at $34 trillion USD. I also said, Mara bro’s are not doing the looting, it is their family & other associates. Sorbonne Nona, on the other hand, was personally involved in looting. She ran to UK to avoid corruption charges.

                    “CBK children”

                    The annual salary of the Sri Lankan President seems to be about $12000 USD ($1000/month). The cost of medical education in the UK for international students can be up to £28,000 ($34742.40) annually. How did CBK pay for the medical education of the children as well as buy a house in London worth £750,000 ($933000 USD)? Let me clarify one point, she did not purchase a house in the USA, that is a different foundation.

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                  Hello Lester,
                  As I am currently trying to get to grips with the Sinhala Alphabet I can agree that Telegu script is similar to Sinhala. What is even stranger is that lipi (script) is the same in Sanskrit, Sinhala and Telegu. Did they all have a common source or is there a historical explanation?

                  Best regards

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                    LankaScot,

                    The common source is the “Brahmi Script.” It looks like the Brahmi script is widespread, due to Emperor Ashoka: “They are descended from the Brahmi script of ancient India and are used by various languages in several language families in South, East and Southeast Asia: Indo-Aryan, Dravidian, Tibeto-Burman, Mongolic, Austroasiatic, Austronesian, and Tai.”

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                      How old is the Brahmi script?
                      There is evidence that it came from outside.
                      The Indus Valley pictograms have no link with Brahmi.

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                      LS,

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinhala_language

                      Lester has copied it from this link. You are better off using the original link for more information.

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                      How old is the Brahmi script?

                      third century BCE
                      History of the Brahmi Script
                      People of the Indian subcontinent came into contact with Semitic peoples some time in the 7th or 8th century BCE. Regardless, its surviving uses are much newer, dating some time around the third century BCE, though some claim it is seen in the fourth century BCE

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                      Actually, Thamizh Brahmi is much older than Brahmi. Oldest Thamizh Brahmi inscriptions is 600BC and oldest Brahmi the Asokan is 300BC. Now after this finding they had to revise history and say the much simpler Thamizh Brahmi gave birth to Brahmi and not the other way around. Southeast Asian language scripts are derived from Thamizh Vatteluthu scripts/ Get your facts correct.

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                Similarly, the Eezham Thamizh are also an indigenous people or a nation that also evolved on the island, largely from the ancient Dravidian Naga tribes who migrated to the island over 3000 years ago and from later immigrants from somewhere in northeast/west India 2500 years ago and also from 7- 10AD Chola/ Pallava/Pandian Thamizh invaders and immigrants. Their identity, ethnicity and language evolved far earlier and is much older than the Chingkalla identity and language that evolved much later from the converted Buddhist Thamizh Dravidian Yakka and some Naga tribes and other Indian immigrants both from the north and south of India but largely from the south of India, in the southern parts of the island. They also had specific area and homeland where they lived and ruled and their identity is also indigenous, just like the Chingkallams.

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                  So why this step motherly treatment towards them by the Sri Lankan state and one identity, namely the Chingkallam, only considered indigenous to the island, just because the language evolved here and not spoken anywhere, whilst the much older other identity that also evolved here and is still thriving in the north and east of the island, is not, but considered foreign, outsider and demonized, by the Sri Lankn state and their history and evolution and contribution to the island’s culture to the evolution of the Chingkalla people and language deliberately overlooked and minimized.

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                    Whilst the hardly existent contribution from North India to the Chingkalla gene pool, language and evolution as a people is deliberately maximized, just like the way these Sri Lankan Muslims deliberately maximize their hardly nonexistent Arab in them and minimize the almost 95% or more Dravidian Thamizh contribution to their genes and culture. Can you explain this, instead of being an apologist to state sponsored Chingkalla racsim?

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                  “Dravidian Naga tribes”
                  Do not make the Nagas laugh as well.

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              Hello Lester,

              It is as a result of the slavery and discrimination that European DNA is present in the Black American population. Many children were born in the plantations that had slave owner fathers. Of course it would be insulting to call them “Europeans” however the DNA analysis probably shows how common the practice was. Plantation documents in conjunction with DNA from both sides could probably be used to show that a particular slave owner was “beyond reasonable doubt” the father of slave children..

              Best regards

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              Lester and all,
              This is correct anyway. Genetic studies of paternity and even pedigree findings are questionable, which is why lab sheets given to patients always say 99%.

              I think people who hang around saying we came first and others came later are just racists and idiots in this era.

              Even the renowned researchers of human evolution at the Boston Centers do not scramble to say that we are fully descended from the apes of our ancient times. There are more gaps in such genetic hypotheses than they seem. I have studied biochemistry and i went to the theories of evolutions on and on. So I know what I am talking about genetics based studies.

              In Sri Lanka, what should matter to its average people be how they return to good levels of economy that will determine the future of this nation.

              After 12 years of cursing, the Greeks are raising their heads. But our sons of bitches are still clinging to the theory that we didn’t come first etc. Those whigs or such scumbag politicians should stop bringing up this topic, so Rajakash should be banned from talking about it again and again.

              It’s like “the man who fell from the tall tree was beaten by a bull” and you’ll stay on the topic completely unaware, because what is discovered about our past is even out touch in some stages.

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          Lester Jester. Periyar himself was extremely white and whiter than many Brahmins and so called Aryan North Indians. He also was not a Thamizh but a Kannadiga. His full name is Erode Venkata Ramasamy and though he was born in Thamizh Nadu. He belonged to the trading Kannada Balija family. What makes you think that all Dravidians are dark and if they are fair skinned there is some mixed blood? The original ancient proto-Dravidians were neolithic farmers who, migrated from the Zoros mountains from western Iran into the Indus valley around 10000 -7000 years ago and settled in what is now the modern Indus valley. Here they intermarried into the ancient ancestral South Indian. To create the modern Indus valley Dravidians who created the Indus valley civilization. However, amongst many Dravidian upper castes like the Velama/Vellalar and many others the ancient Iranian Neolithic Zaros mountain DNA predominates, or is 50% or more, whereas amongst the lower castes and tribals the ancient ancestral South Indian element predominates.

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            This later gets mixed up with ancestral North Indian, which is mixture of Steppe Aryan and Indus valley Dravidian called Indo Aryan. Not necessarily Brahmin. All Indians including the Pashtuns, Kalash, Kashmiris and Punjabis are mixture of these three people. However this mixture varies. Hope you understand. Sri Lankan Thamizh being predominantly Vellalar tend to have more of the Indus valley Dravidian DNA and not the Indus valley Dravidian DNA that got mixed with ancient ancestral South Indian DNA that many South Indian Tamils and their Chingkalized descendants like Malinga and Sanath have. This video will explain this to you much better.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSiFYomXCnM

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          You all may find these letters from a father to son would be interesting. https://www.sangam.org/2011/08/Aryan_Theory.php?uid=4437

          Letter 2 – 5
          Names and Places and Geographical Objects in Ceylon derivable from Tamil Words (I)
          Names and Places and Geographical Objects in Ceylon derivable from Tamil Words (II)
          Names and Places and Geographical Objects in Ceylon derivable from Tamil Words (III)
          Names and Places and Geographical Objects in Ceylon derivable from Tamil Words (IV)

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    Hello Ariaratnam Gobikrishna.

    I tried to find a link to Professor Gautam Kumar Kshatriya’s report but failed. Could you please provide a link.
    I have read many papers on Sri Lanka’s DNA without finding a consensus.
    Have a look at the findings of this paper and try to explain the differences – https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10514440/
    I am sure that there has been a substantial amount of mixing of the various ethnic groups in Sri Lanka.
    By the way Robert Knox may not have been the inspiration for Robinson Crusoe, which was one of the first books that I read as a child.

    Best regards

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      LankaScot – I believe it is this study he refers to from 1995, its behind a pay wall I think: “Genetic affinities of Sri Lankan populations.” Human Biology, vol. 67, no. 6, Dec. 1995, pp. 843+.
      .
      He apparently has chosen this one study among few others, including more recent ones, to avoid bias.

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        LS & C
        The DNA studies will tell us b*****all.
        The waves of immigration over the centuries and inter-ethnic mixing at various times mean that we are a thoroughly mixed lot.
        Identities persist regardless of one’s DNA signature.

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          SJ – A fact that does not seem to penetrate the thick skulls of some.

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          Hello SJ,
          My father was a Scottish Nationalist and was convinced that the Scots descended from the Scythians. He also believed that our family’s ancestor was Banquo (from Macbeth). When he visited me in Shropshire, I showed him the Fitzalan castle in Oswestry and the family graves from the 12th Century in Haughmond Abbey, he agreed that I was probably right about the French Breton Ancestry. We looked at William Fitzalan’s signature (seal) on King Stephen’s charter to Shrewsbury Abbey in 1136. William’s brother Walter traveled with King David to Scotland and became Steward to the Kings of Scotland. He founded Paisley Abbey with a Charter signed at Fotheringay Castle in 1163. The extensive historical paper trail of monastic charters and historical references finally led to my father being convinced that the Banquo connection was most likely a myth. My DNA result also provided good evidence of our direct connection.
          My point is that DNA evidence can, in conjunction with robust historical evidence (primary), refute or affirm various postulates. My father’s belief in descent from Banquo was based on hearsay handed down the generations. However certainty in Science and Historical Research is never 100%.
          Best regards

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          SJ,
          It seems that DNA researchers don’t talk to anthropological researchers. Otherwise they should know that there is no such animal as a “pure” Sinhalese, Tamil, or Muslim, even if they claim it themselves.
          In publishing genetic results, they should reveal exactly which region the samples came from.

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            OC – “…they should know that there is no such animal as a “pure” Sinhalese, Tamil, or Muslim, even if they claim it themselves.”
            .
            Have the geneticists who have studied genetics of various relevant populations claimed any such thing – that there are pure Sinhalese, Tamils etc., or is it the various lay interpreters who have done that?

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              Ruchira,
              Even the researcher in question has attributed certain DNA make-up to “Sinhalese” etc.
              “The study of genetic admixture revealed that the Sinhalese of Sri Lanka have a higher contribution from the Tamils of southern India (69.86% ± 0.61) “
              Who are these Sinhalese (or Tamils)?
              I doubt very much if a “Sinhalese” with a Kandyan Govigama ancestry will have the same DNA makeup as, say, a Warnakulasuriya Fernando from Chilaw.
              My grouse is that the DNA researchers don’t take regional differences into account.

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                Old codger – these are two different things.
                .
                (1) One – the idea that genetic studies indicate that any group is pure genetically and is solely descending from another, which I believe is false and is a misrepresentation of findings and I don’t think any researchers make or have madr such claims. It is those who use genetic studies to validate their own narratives of history that make such sweeping generalisations. This author to some degree and more particularly CV Wigneswaran ate guilty of such misrepresentations of modern DNA studies.

                (2) The answer to the second issue you have highlighted in your last comment I believe is best sought from a geneticists herself.
                .
                But from little I know you may be right to some extent in saying that regional differences matter and I think infact some researchers take such regional differences into account. For example taking different samples from up-country and low-country Sinhalese
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                Continued below…

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                  OC – continued from above…
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                  .
                  But on the otherhand what is compared is not the exact genetic make up but how one group is related to another using markers.
                  .
                  Yes in reality the actual DNA make up differs from one individual to another, therefore by region to region, but for the purpose of comparison of large groups sampling is done to represent each group and such samples then are compared to the presence of certain markers that would provide the degree of relationship between each group. .
                  It’s all in the methodology of the studies, the methodologies are designed based on the objectives of the study. These methodological nuances may not be fully understood without some expertise on the subject, which I, like most who comment here or those authors who have quoted various studies too, I believe, don’t have.

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                    OC – to further clarify my comment above:
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                    For example if your objective is to compare Sinhalese with Sout Indians ypu take samples representative of each group. But if your objective for example is to compare people of kurunegala district with South Indians, then you take a more regional sample from Kurunegala district.
                    .
                    And to further elaborate to avoid or minimize regional differences in genetic make up when you compare large populations – you do that by taking what is called a ‘representative’ sample meaning a sample that represents the whole population in a way regional differences are ironed out or minimized. And sampling is a subject in itself. Which type of sampling is used in various types of studies is a matter of technical expertise and opinion.
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                    You may be able to read how a particular researcher has done this by reading the methodology of the study.
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                    Hope I have not further confused you!

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                old codger

                “I doubt very much if a “Sinhalese” with a Kandyan Govigama ancestry will have the same DNA makeup as, say, a Warnakulasuriya Fernando from Chilaw.”

                Is it due the liberal practice of Kandyan Hospitality?
                I wonder whether Lester is from Kandy region.

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                OC actually take a sample of a population for scientific and other purposes they take a broad spectrum representing the population, otherwise it will not be accurate. For Chingkallams they would have taken samples of low country, Kandyan, coastal, low caste, high caste and all castes in between. For Eezham Thamizh it would have been the same, the samples would have been from Jaffna, Vanni, Trincomalee. Batticaloa/Amparai and even most probably from the Puttalam region. It would have been a mixture of Vellalars Pariahs, and all other castes in between. Otherwise, the study and the result will not be accurate.

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                  Even most Chingkalla Govigamma, low country and Kandyan have a very high South Indian Thamizh immigrant ancestry. Look at all their family names low country or Kandyan a virtual Thamizh who is who. Bandara, Tennekoon, Weerakoon, Alagakoon, Ponnamperumal, Mudali. Pilli, Sinhe, Sekera, Ratne, the list goes on. Other than the original migration of around 700 men from somewhere in North India, who themselves took Thamizh Pandian wives, all other migration to the island has been from the South of India, the then Thamizh country.

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            OC,
            .
            Those life science researchers in the line of genetic studies based on findings related to the original ethnic groups of some countries are doing their job well, but those who misquote the publications in favour of their arguments should be subjected to the facts.
            Above all those politicians and racists abuse the genetic studies through false interpretations.
            Either they cant understand the scienctific outcome as given in those publications or, they deliberately do so not having any other arguments to succeed their hypotheses.
            :
            Those days, I was very enthusiatic to carry on my research in the fields of HUMAN EVOLUTION however, i was blocked somewhere for various other reasons. I have been to boston several times and some of my colleagues continue their research in that line.

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            OC
            Thanks.
            Much of the discussion here involve verdicts in pursuit of a case and evidence to back it.
            One thing certain about reading history on these pages is that a rain cloud will offer a clearer picture.

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      Science is a useful tool and from Gautam:
      “The study of genetic admixture revealed that the Sinhalese of Sri Lanka have a higher contribution from the Tamils of southern India (69.86% [+ or -] 0.61) compared with the Bengalis of northeast India (25.41% [+ or -] 0.51), whereas the Tamils of Sri Lanka have received a higher contribution from the Sinhalese of Sri Lanka (55.20% [+ or -] 9.47) compared with the Tamils of India (16.63% [+ or -] 8.73).

      Thus it is apparent that the contribution of Prince Vijaya and his companions, coming from northwest India, to the present-day Sinhalese must have been erased by the long-standing contribution (over 2000 years) of the population groups of India, especially those from Bengal and Tamil Nadu.

      Similarly, the Tamils of Sri Lanka are closer to the Sinhalese because they were always in close proximity to each other historically, linguistically, and culturally.” Tamils of South India 1,500 years ago being Chera, Chola and Pandya and Telugus.

      Anecdotally based on value system of a community, if that is attributable, the above genetics simple confirm that Tamils and Sinhalese in Sri Lanka are of one and the same stock. And were infused with plenty of Buddhist Tamils and other South Indians, especially the Telugu people, migration to Lanka Buddhism faded in the South in the middle of the first millennium.

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        Fairminedone – “Tamils and Sinhalese in Sri Lanka are of one and the same stock.” that seems to be the only useful conclusion that one could arrive at from the quoted sections of the study.

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          Ruchira,
          “Tamils and Sinhalese in Sri Lanka are of one and the same stock.”
          Exactly the point I have been trying to make. They aren’t different “ethnicities”. The differences stem from language and culture.

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            OC – “The differences stem from language and culture” – I thought those are the differences that make different ethnicities. But from the genetic make up it looks like Sri Lanka Tamils are descendents of Sinhalese, not sure if that’s what you implied too.

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              Ruchira,
              People of the same “ethnicity ” may have different languages and cultures. A Telegu and a Tamil are both Dravidian, but have different cultures/ languages. But English-speaking Ulstermen and Cockneys are culturally different.
              No, I am not implying that Sinhalese are descendants of Tamils or vice versa. Just 4000 years ago, there were neither Sinhalese or Tamils, but their common ancestors. We have no clue what they called themselves.
              The Tamil spoken in Jaffna is a unique dialect not found in TN, I think. That itself is a clue that this group has been isolated for a long time.
              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffna_Tamil_dialect

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                Old codger,
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                Thank you for the link and the comment.
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                There are several dialects of Sinhalese within the island concentrated in different geographical regions.
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                So what it implies when you say: “The Tamil spoken in Jaffna is a unique dialect not found in TN, I think. That itself is a clue that this group has been isolated for a long time.”, needs to be carefully evaluated.
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                I am not very big on history. Never paid much attention to it in school, except what was required to keep the grades floating. Even less, outside of school, only to realize rather relatively late in life, to what extent the history holds back people, especially in these parts of the world, something I am not very pleased with, in general.
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                Hope you have a great week ahead.

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                  Ruchira,
                  “That itself is a clue that this group has been isolated for a long time.”, needs to be carefully evaluated.”
                  Whatever else it may mean, at least it makes it very unlikely that the Jaffna Tamils were brought here by the Dutch.
                  History is very interesting, but one must have the ability to see the links between seemingly disparate items.

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                    OC – This idea that Jaffna Tamils were brought here by the Dutch is new to me. In fact I am hearing it for the first time here. I have neither claimed so, nor have I supported it, in any of my numerous comments here. .
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                    It is not something I have heard of previously nor studied in school under history. Must be some sort of a recent distortion made by various parties.
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                    Yes, history is interesting. I am trying to read up a bit about world history these days, particularly the history of the western civilization. But I hardly could remember various time periods and names of kings that ruled during them. These details never stay in my mind for some reason. I am more interested in broad changes, dynamics and patterns.
                    .
                    My comments here are mostly because I have an interest in genetics not necessarily because I have an interest in history.
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                    If you pay attention, my comments are usually focused on genetic studies that various authors have cited, not on various other claims, which may require knowledge on other sources of history like written records and/or archeological evidence.

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                “English speaking Ulstermen and Cockneys are ethnically different “

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                  OC –
                  From the dictionary:
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                  “noun: ethnicity; plural noun: ethnicities
                  .
                  the quality or fact of belonging to a population group or subgroup made up of people who share a common cultural background or descent.”
                  .
                  I guess ethnicity could be defined in more ways than one.
                  .
                  But what’s your point?
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                  If it is the local, Sri Lankan context. The problem has always referred to as the ethnic problem or the conflict, implying Sinhala and Tamil are two different ethnicities.
                  .
                  If you want to make a case suggesting that they are not the difference lies only in language spoken and culture, what difference does it make, in terms of the solution to the problem referred to as the ethnic problem?.
                  .
                  Going by the logic of requiring a federal state as the solution do you then recommend such seperate federal states to different regions of the rest of the country where different dialects of Sinhalese is spoken that may also have some cultural differences?
                  .

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                    Ruchira,
                    “If it is the local, Sri Lankan context. The problem has always referred to as the ethnic problem or the conflict, implying Sinhala and Tamil are two different ethnicities.”
                    That is convenient for those who want to pretend that there is a real racial difference, and those like that tour guide who would designate all Tamils as recent immigrants .
                    Sri Lankan usage is peculiar. “Humanitarian Operation “, anyone?

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                  This is how lanken lawyers are upto. Many of them would act anything for money.
                  .
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SyvaWies9Y

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                  OC,
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                  Please do not be distracted by the main topic “Reconciliation”:

                  These will be new topics, to our Sinhala man, self-proclaimed English teacher will harass us readers and pull them away from the focus of this article.
                  When it comes to English culture/literature plus gossips, he tries to bring you down to the basics, even though he has never been to the UK in his real life. Big talks just to grab the attention , alas.
                  Although our concerns on the side of a future AKD-led government are growing strongly, SM et al has to answer our critical questions that we have reiterated elsewhere.

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                OC
                The first extant work of Tamil grammar, close to two millennia old talks of a dozen or so dialects.
                Written Tamil itself started to reflect the differences in a less pronounced way. But the language has changed beyond recognition in many respects so that ancient Tamil texts cannot be understood without aid. There is continuity of sorts, but it failed to unify the language.
                Italian and French were unified through sheer necessity. Dialects exist,but there are standard Italian and French.
                Despite vast spread and adoption by non-native speakers English holds together far better than Tamil.
                While school education and the print and electronic media had at one point unified written Sinhala as well as enabled reforms, that did not happen with Tamil. whose diglossia is a far more serious obstacle to any alien learner of Tamil than to a learner of Sinhala or Malayalam.

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                  SJ,
                  Thanks for the input. I am no expert on Tamil, but I know the Jaffna dialect is different. 1

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        I thank the author of this article, Lanka Canuck and Anpu for the facts provided. Fairminded the so-called Telugus who arrived on the island were not from Andhra or Telangana but were Tamil speaking Naicker from Madurai and Thanjavur. These people only Telugu in name as they still carried the Naicker Telugu title but for all intents and purposes were fully Tamilised and were Tamil. When they arrived, they had already resided in the Tamil country for centuries and many hardly spoke Telugu and even if they did it was some form of Pidgeon Telugu. Telugus and Tamils are basically the same people, speaking similar languages, granted Telugu is the most distant to Tamil compared to Kannada or Malayalam. Hale(old) Kannada is basically a form of Tamil and so is Malayalam a highly Sanskritised form of Chera Tamil.

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          Now coming to these so-called Telugus who migrated to the island from Tamil Nadu, these Tamil speaking Telugu origin Naicker, generally only had a distant male Telugu Naicker ancestor, who arrived with the original Vijayanagar Naicker rule in the 13th Century. These male Telugu rulers usually took wives from the then ruling Tamil upper caste families and very rarely back from their original Telugu homeland. They may have at the beginning but later as they got established, getting Tamilised, they stopped and started taking local Tamil females from ruling families and this practice went on for centuries until most probably they had established a sufficient number amongst themselves locally.

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            So other than the original distant male Telugu Naicker ancestor, all their other ancestors more or less were Tamil over each generation. This is the reason they spoke Tamil and promoted the Tamil language and culture when they ruled Kandy as they considered themselves Tamils with a distant Telugu male ancestor and they came from the Tamil country, to where the last Naicker king of Kandy was banished with his family (Salem) and not to the Telugu Country. With the spread of the Vijayanagar empire, from the original Naickers, you now get Telugu Naickers( the original), Kannada Naickers( Periyar was a Kannada Naicker not a Tamil) Tamil Naickers, and Maharashtrian and Goan Naiks. Are you aware that these Naickers/Nairs like the Paravans(Bharatha) Oliyar have an ancient Dravidian Tamil Naga origin? Also the title Naicker was also taken by other landowning ruling Tamil castes during this era not just by Naickers themselves.

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      The name supporter of Chingkalla racism and extremism will be more appropriate to you than the bogus Scottish identity. Just read all your comments, oozing with anti Thamizh bias, supporting the fake Chingkalla Aryan origin, and an apologist for Chingkalla Buddhist racism. A very strange Scott, if you really are one indeed,

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        Hello Pandi Kutti,

        You have found me out, I am actually a Yamnaya from 2000 BCE that invented a machine to time travel here to Sri Lanka in 2021. Please keep it secret, I don’t want any government people visiting me!

        Best regards

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          Nice Yamnaya from the steppes of Ukraine now can you please do a traditional Yamnaya war dance. It will be very similar to the Punjabi Bhangra. Here learn to dance. Wear a kilt that is fine
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWaB_7AOwdQ
          These Punjabis have retained lot of these Yamnaya characteristics including their dance of victory (war dances) when they overcome their enemies. Now the peasants dance this ancient dance form during harvest, and other occasions as a form of celebration. This is the reason, there is a saying in Thamizh referring to these vigorous Yamnaya origin war like dances of the Punjabis as ” Ariyak Kuthadinalum Kariyathil kan( Meaning if you behave erratically, just like the mad vigorous war dance of the Aryans, you do know what you want and achieve what you want. Now dance fake Scottish Yamnaya

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            Hello Pandi Kutti,

            Thanks for reminding me, all that’s missing are the crossed swords on the floor – I suppose the Kirpans are too small to dance across.. I used to tell my friend Jit (a Sikh), back in the UK, that we had a lot in common.

            Best regards

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              LS
              One reads the narratives on language, culture ad history by the trio to which PK belongs only for amusement.
              But the trio is no match to the retired judge and chief minister for entertainment.

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    It seems that Ariyaratne is “Tamil Coating” to distort true Sinhala Buddhist history of Sri Lanka.

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      What is the true history? Tell us the truth.

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        T&A
        What has truth to do with what either of you claim to be true?

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        He will like the Chingkalla extremists will never tell the truth but go around twisting the truth as he is self-hating Thamizh Chavam with an agenda, so keeps on fawning to Chingkalla racists and Islamic hardliners. States he hates racism and wants only the truth to be told but strangely loves Chingkalla racists, Islamic hardliners, Chiri Mao one of the biggest Chingkalla racists, strangely like her husband of recent South Indian Thamizh immigrant origin, with her great grandfather signing the Kandyan convention is Thamizh. He leaps to their defense.

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      Could you pls tell us what do you know about Kathirkamam Murugan temple?

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        Kathirkaamam was a place of worship of the Attho (also called Vedda) like many of their places of worship in the East, which too were taken over by Tamils.
        Is there anything like that place (the system of worship and the absence of an idol) to celebrate Murukan in South India?
        *
        There is likelihood that the Attho adopted the god and the system of worship early on, well before Murukan got thoroughly Sanskritized.

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          Yes, it was a place of worship for the Vedda, you please explain the reason as to why the Vedda were worshiping the ancient Thamizh God Lord Murugan in Kathirkammam again a Thamizh name. It is the same in the rest of the east. The village and place names are all Thamizh, which shows they were highly influenced by the presence of ancient Dravidian Thamizh tribes on the island

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            How a people come across a faith is historical. (Nagaland has the highest Christian population of all states in India.)
            The same can be asked about Tamils worshipping Aryan gods and Sanskritized gods.
            With the rise of Saivaism, Murukan worship was considerably marginalized in Tamil country from the time of Thirumurukattruppadai (itself portraying a sanskritized Murukan) until Murukan’s resurgence with Kanthapuranam.
            *
            Whether a Vedda deity was made into Murukan the way Tamil Murukan was made into Skanda etc. (with six faces, two spouses, one non-Tamil, and fighting to protect non-Tamil Devas) is worth exploring.
            *
            The point is that Kathirkamam had been hijacked from the Attho.

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        Nothing will broaden parochial minds on any side that are confined to selective reading.

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      Truth sometime gives some funny feelings.

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        You can say it again.

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      Chingkalla Buddhist History! Read this extremist with a foreign Iberian name. Now read cry and get enlightened with the real truth and not your Mahavamsa fables.

      https://www.dailymirror.lk/opinion/Shared-heritage-of-archaeological-sites-in-the-North-and-East/172-268061

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      Tony the rabid dog is back to his hatreds.
      I think no matter who the next government is, we should all come together and stand against Sinhalese racists of your nature.
      Who are the real Sinhala Buddhists?
      The Rajapaksas? we should hang them in a future govt. No further arguments woudl be necessary.
      They have proven time and time again that they are the biggest criminals who have tarnished Sri Lanka’s image on the world stage.
      We all must stand together against Sinhala hegemony. We have to nip them all in the bud. As we are all Sri Lankans we deserve to be treated the same, so I stand up for anyone who does that.

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        Leelagemalli mohomad,
        Return to your Tamil Nadu. So Sinhala Buddhists Sri Lanka is better off without crazy Kallathonies.

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          Our human beasts must be genetically modified.Monsanto GMO experts, over to you, please help us modifying these racists.
          Most of them are like you who put Sinhala-Buddhist coating. Today I do it not willingly, I am ashamed to identify or introduce me as being born in the Sinhalese race.
          If anyone with dissenting views is branded a Tamil or Muslim by tony or the like racists dogs..
          This Tony dog should be brought to the Galle face and be treaed with a public excution, could send a messsage across that we are not pro-racists. He can well be used as the first human-sacrifice.
          .
          If nature punished them under the guise of the COVID pandemic, in reality they should have all eroded away. Unfortunately good humanitarians like Mangala Samaraweera were killed by Covid.

          Despite being elected as the nation’s killers, the Rajapaksas, are still alive. God believers should line up to question what happened to divine forces …. all others should questions, if the KARMIC RETRIBUTION is a myth.

          Even natural forces don’t seem to be doing the job. Such leaders who deliberately caused so much harm in African countries were naturally punished by nature.
          Today in our hell, Rajapaksas be damned, how many people among the poverty stricken sections are suffering without daily essentials? The YouTube channel is not interested in parasites, so there is no news about them.

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          Tony the beast, .
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          Don’t u know that we are all Kallathonies.?

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      What is true about Sinhala Buddhist history?

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    What about the recent archeology evidence in kantharodai, North?

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      Recent?
      I thought that it was well known for pretty long.

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        Yes the recent archeology evidence also confirmed it.

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      “It stands to reason that a country which is only thirty miles from India and which would have been seen by the Indian fishermen every morning as they sailed out to catch their fish would have been occupied by men who understood how to sail. I suggest that the North of Ceylon was a flourishing settlement centuries before Vijaya was born.” – Sir Paul E.Pieris, 1919
      Nagadipa and the Buddhist Remains in Jaffna, Part II p।65.
      http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2010/08/people-and-cultures-of-prehistoric-sri.html
      http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2010/08/people-and-cultures-of-prehistoric-sri_11.html
      http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2010/08/people-and-cultures-of-prehistoric-sri_21.html
      Peoples and Cultures of Early Sri Lanka Dr. Siva Thiagarajah 2012 (sangam.org)

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        Anpu, these Sri Lankan Chingkalla government tourist guides trained and accredited by the Sri Lankan state and the fake Archeological department which we all know is manned largely by Chingkalla Buddhist racists, fascists and fundamentalist are deliberately imparting lies and myths about the island’s history and an anti Thamizh bias on these gullible unsuspecting foreign tourists, who will believe all this lies misinformation and rubbish told by them and think that the island only belongs to the Chingkallams and they are of North Indian origin, the Sri Lankan Muslims are Arabs, funny they themselves cannot use their brains and see that everything reeks of Thamizh South India. The ruins, the people, food, the culture, the dances etc. and nothing of North India, where the Chingkallams are supposed to have originated from.

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          My first cousin from India and his family recently toured Sri Lanka and he loved the country the scenery, the general cleanliness and the people. I asked him which part of India does Sri Lanka remind him of and pat came the answer, Kerala and Thamizh Nadu, especially Southern Tamizh Nadu. all these areas once part of ancient Thamilakam. I asked him if the Chingkallams look North India he laughed and said no they look very South Indian, and you will mistake them for a Thamizh or Malayali. (Malayalees were Thamizh a few centuries ago.) He also visited Polonnaruwa with his family and was repeating the same bullshit, lies and deliberate misinformation that these Sri Lankan government accredited Chingkalla guide was telling these unsuspecting tourists and passing it off as authentic history, until I corrected him and gave him links.

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            The Chingkalla Sri Lankan state is using tourism and these racist extremist Chingkalla guides brainwashed with myths and lies to spread their propaganda and lies, that the island only belongs to the Chingkalla Buddhists, who are purely of North Indian origin and the Thamizh on the island, who have a far older history and language than the Chingkallams and are really the ancestors of the Chingkalla people, their culture and contributed most to the evolution of their language are unwanted outsiders and recent immigrants. Very subtle and diabolical. These unsuspecting tourists listening to all this fake twisted history of the island and origin of the Chingkalla people from these so-called government accredited guides will believe this as 100% true and also their subtle anti Thamizh propaganda that the Thamizh are outsiders and do not belong. A subtle pro Chingkalla anti Thamizh bias. The country is bankrupt, but this anti Thamizh hatred lies, and propaganda is still going on. Proves the diabolical Chingkalla mindset. What reconciliation with these liars who are even twisting history to gullible unsuspecting tourists and lying to them, as they can do so.

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              He was my first cousin, so I was able to correct and explain the real untold history, just like the way the author of this article knew that this Chingkalla guide was imparting racist lies bullshit and twisting real history with a Chingkalla Buddhist agenda to gullible tourists, who will believe all this and then impart these lies and fake twisted history to others.

              The Chingkalla Sri Lankan state is using tourism and these racist extremist Chingkalla guides brainwashed with myths and lies to spread their propaganda and lies, that the island only belongs to the Chingkalla Buddhists, who are purely of North Indian origin and the Thamizh on the island, who have a far older history and language than the Chingkallams and are really the ancestors of the Chingkalla people, their culture and contributed most to the evolution of their language are unwanted outsiders and recent immigrants. Very subtle and diabolical. These unsuspecting tourists listening to all this fake twisted history of the island and origin of the Chingkalla people from these so-called government accredited guides will believe this as 100% true and also their subtle anti Thamizh propaganda that the Thamizh are outsiders and do not belong. A subtle pro Chingkalla anti Thamizh bias.

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                The country is bankrupt, but this anti Thamizh hatred lies, and propaganda is still going on. Proves the diabolical Chingkalla mindset. What reconciliation with these liars who are even twisting history to gullible unsuspecting tourists and lying to them, as they can do so. He was my first cousin, so I was able to correct and explain the real untold history, just like the way the author of this article knew that this Chingkalla guide was imparting racist lies bullshit and twisting real history with a Chingkalla Buddhist agenda to gullible tourists, who will believe all this and then impart these lies and fake twisted history to others.

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        Anpu,

        The common sense of historians like Paul E. Pieris is what is needed, and what I think the author, a medical doctor, is aiming for.

        I focus more on common sense than unreliable written histories.

        I think the canard that Tamils immigrated from India during the Dutch period was spread by the racist Jathika Chinthanaya crowd, people like Nalin de Silva and Gunadasa Amarasekera, and it has now been accepted by a sizable segment of the Sinhalese population.

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          The funny part is it is the ancestors of around 30•50% of the present day Chingkallam, including the ancestors of these two racists who spread this canard, who migrated to the island post 15th century, especially during the Portuguese and Dutch colonial era. They were imported in the thousands and settled along the western and southern littorals to do menial service work and to work in the huge southern spice estates. Their Chingkalised descendants are the Karawa Durawa Salagama and many other castes

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            On the other side of the spectrum most of the present day Chingkalla aristocracy and upper castes, both Kandyan and low country, are largely descended from post 15th century immigrants from then Tamil South India. Modern day Thamizh Nadu and Kerala. They were descended from Thamizh or from Thamizh speaking Telugu origin Naickers from South India. Now all these recently Chingalized descendants of South Indian Thamizh, both low and high born, have become the biggest anti Thamizh , sowing hatred and beating the anti Thamizh drum against the native Thamizh and the biggest supporters of the Chingkalla Aryan myth. Most probably to hide their recent South Indian Thamizh immigrant origin

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              Lastly Sapumal Kumara aka Chempaha Perumal from the Kotte kingdom who later became Bhuvanekabahu VI (the adopted son of Parakrama Bahu VI), is actually a Thamizh, He is a son of a Kariyar Thamizh chieftain Mannika Thalaivan, from Thamizh Nadu who died fighting for the Chingkalla King Parakrama Bahu VI and he adopted him as his son. The Chingkallams conveniently omit his fact. As for Duttu Gemunu to Dutta Kamini being a white Aryan Chingkallam is laughable. 2300 years ago, there was no Chingkalla language or people. Chingkalla language only came into existence from 7AD, so how can there be a Chingkalla people with no language? What they called Chingkallam or Chingkallavar during that time, were not the modern Sinhalese or Chingkallams but the ancient Thamizh or Semi Thamizh speaking Dravidian Naga and Yakka tribes who inhabiting the island, Chingkallam( the red or copper coloured land).

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                Buddhism has just arrived on the island and the largely semi Thamizh speaking Yakka tribes, as well as the Thamizh speaking Naga minority who ruled them, had converted and Dutta(wayward) Gamini belonged to these newly converted Thamizh Buddhist Naga royalty down south. His father was king Kaavan Theesan or Kakkai Vanna Theesan both pure Thamizh names, former meaning the great protector and the later the king the colour of the crow, meaning he was black or very dark in complexion, definitely no Aryan but a dark Dravidian Thamizh Naga, his mother belonged to a prominent Naga family from what is now called Kelaniya. So now a Thamizh Naga and mother and father, who have now converted to Buddhism, produced a white Chingkalla Aryan son! Later over the centuries these southern Thamizh Naga royalty and aristocracy who converted to Buddhism gradually got assimilated into the newly evolving Chingkalla identity, whereas the ones in the north and east remained Thamizh, irrespective which religion they followed.

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                  This was a war between the Hindu Thamizh establishment that was then ruling Anuradhapura, and the newly converted Thamizh Buddhists led by southern Thamizh Buddhist Naga kings and aristocracy, to establish and assert their rule over the island. That is all nothing to do with Chingkallams or Thamizh , as there were no modern Chingkallams or the Chingkalla language at that time. They were all Thamizh or semi Thamizh speaking people. Later these converted Thamizh Buddhists gradually evolved as modern Chingkallams, this is another story but at that time they did not and were still Thamizh and modern Chingkalla language or ethnicity had not even started to evolve.

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                    None of the ancient kings on the island as now falsely told and portrayed ever called or identified themselves as Chingkallams or Aryans as they were not. They were Saiva or Buddhist local Thamizh Naga or belonged to South Indian Thamizh dynasties, and at times Kalinga. This is a fact. Now after the so-called independence all sorts of twisted lies are becoming facts, to portray the island as a Chingkalla only Buddhist nation, when it never was Chingkallam only or Buddhist. Large parts of it from ancient to present had always been Thamizh and Hindu. Dutta Gamini’s mother came from a prominent Thamizh Naga Buddhist family from what is known as Kelaniya in modern Chingkallam but in Thamizh it is known as Kalani meaning an irrigated piece of land, usually where paddy is grown. Ancient Thamizh place name Kalani becomes Chingkalla Kelaniya. Adding this suffix Ya to Thamizh place names to Chingkalize them has been very common.

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                  PK ,
                  1)”What makes you think that all Dravidians are dark and if they are fair skinned there is some mixed blood? “
                  2)”the king the colour of the crow, meaning he was black or very dark in complexion, definitely no Aryan but a dark Dravidian Thamizh”
                  You are making my head spin. Which one am I to believe?

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                    OC ,all Dravidians are not dark. In fact, many have a light/fair skin but the majority especially amongst the lower castes and tribals tend to be dark, as they tend to have more of the ancient ancestral South Indian DNA. But even amongst them you can get light skin due to various reasons. However, you do not get dark skinned Aryans definitely not with the skin the colour of a crow. That is impossible, they are white, light skinned or the darkest is a very light tan. Not darker than that.

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                      Whereas the skin colour of the Dravidian varies mostly dark with sizeable amount of light skin. Some may be mixed but in others the light skin is due to Zagros Mountain Neolithic Iranian farmer DNA (the original Dravidian) predominating more in their genes than the ancient ancestral South Indian. This gene predominates more amongst the Dravidian upper castes, like the Velama, Vellalar, and even amongst Sri Lankan Tamils as they are predominantly Vellalar. However, everyone in South Asia is mixed.

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                      If you go the Northwest part of India, Kashmir, and Pakistan the so-called areas where the steppe Aryan gene is concentrated (however even here genetic composition of the vast majority is the Indus Valley Dravidian), very rarely you will find some with the skin the colour of crow, or even very dark people. If they are they are from the very low castes, largely of lower caste Dravidian origin, or tribals. In places like Rajasthan the fierce desert sun makes them very dark too. It is in Hindi but quite easy to understand
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4O-1dLfTAA

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                    Dear Readers,
                    Reconciliation is the topic, but URUPATIYA/piglet (PK)has been dragging it to more divisions, why ? Urupatiyo, the name of god, please rethink.
                    :
                    Man, we are the all the same, whilte or black, hindu or sinhala, we are all asencindg from a coming from a mixed genetics.
                    I have got ot know light skinned tamils and dark both. again anda gain. I have also been working with darker africans and afraicans that are light skinned. What matters is the person in them, not anyhting else.

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          Agnos
          That is not the point that is debated here.
          It is two bigoted points of view at loggerheads.

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          Agnos
          It was ancestors of people like Nalin de Silva who immigrated from India during the Dutch period, and despite adopting the local language and religion, refused to be called Sinhalese even as late as the 20th Century.
          There were immigrants to Jaffna too in that period, but fewer as the demand for labour was less.

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        Sorry I missed to post the link for “Peoples and Cultures of Early Sri Lanka Dr. Siva Thiagarajah 2012 (sangam.org)” https://sangam.org/2012/05/Early_SriLanka.php?uid=4726

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          Anpu

          Please explain to us the significance of S Sritharan’s victory over Sumanthiran?
          Did he promised heaven on earth in VP’s Tamil Eelam?

          Do you see any difference between S Sritharan and Wimal Weerawansa?

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            Native,
            Sorry I do not know the answers for your questions. After becoming the leader this is what Shritharan has said (according to https://twitter.com/TamilGuardian/status/1749151625371922800?s=20)
            “We will join forces with others – people who can journey together for (Tamil) nationhood – we will always work with them for the freedom of our people, we will forge a new path for freedom. For this we will certainly work together with everyone,”

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        The fact is that the vast majority of immigrants have adopted a certain linguistic and religious identity.
        As why Tamil immigrants assumed Sinhala identity. Nobody forced identity.
        Is something not wrong with a community that shunts out people, even as late as the 20th Century?

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          Mybe a self-hating Thamizh spiteful like you were forcing these Thamizh Immigrants from South India to take on a Chingkalla identity. The answer is they all did not come in one go but came in dribbles over the past 2000 years and settled and gradually got assimilated. Most of them were poor, illiterate, artisans, tradesmen and would have known no better and were imported into the island by the local king or colonial power, these people would not have even know that a few hundred KM to the north or east there were thriving native Thamizh communities living and ruling themselves. The so-called aristocrats and upper castes deliberately took on a Chingkalla Buddhist identity to safeguard their wealth.

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            Millions of Germanic and Viking and other tribes migrated to UK and got assimilated. Even now people migrate and assimilate so you mean, there is something wrong with all these people? Most probably something wrong with you. A century or two ago before all this racism began, people did not care if you identified yourself as a Chingkallam or Thamizh, it was your caste and class that was important.

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      “I was back in my hometown, Jaffna. And the Buddhist site near Kantharodei was on my mind, that I had frequented as a boy. But things were not the same when I visited recently. Kathrugoda Ancient Viharaya, as it’s known now, had an army sentry along with information that I was ignorant about.”
      From – Contested Histories, Multi-Religious Space and Conflict: A Case Study of Kantarodai in Northern Sri Lanka by Elizabeth J Harris https://www.mdpi.com/2077-1444/10/9/537
“I began this paper by evoking the religious and political landscapes of the Jaffna peninsula during the ethnic war of the 1980s and 1990s when the peninsula was largely a Tamil enclave, existing either under Indian dominance or with the possibility of Sinhala Buddhist dominance. I then examined an influential imaginary found within sections of the Sinhala Buddhist community, the imaginary that has been projected onto the archaeological site of Kantarodai, reinforced by military strength. After this, I turned to Kantarodai itself and to two representations of its history, the first a product of the above imaginary, the second, an account that is open to international archaeological research. Sinhala Buddhist visitors to the site today are exposed only to the first and tend to see Kantarodai as their own possession, an expression of the perceived past greatness of Sinhala Buddhism in the north….”

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        Professor S Pathmanathan
        “It is a historical feature that the names of the Buddhist structures at Kantharodai and the objects used in the Buddhist school are written in Tamil language. The Jaffna Museum houses a variety of cultural relics unearthed during the excavations at Kantharodai in 1966. Buddha image, Buddha’ s feet, exquisitely designed miniature copper caskets, structures They include fragmented pillars, wares such as pottery tiles, water tanks, vases, mortar, mortar, goat stone , etc. ” (on line translation) https://ezhunaonline.com/compilation/tamil-and-buddhism-in-ancient-jaffna-3/

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    When all is in doubt, we can only use the look of the people to substantiate the claim. The masses, whether Sinhala or Tamil, look South Indian. Once this is admitted, peace and prosperity will prevail. Then the Bridge to Tamil Nadu won’t be necessary to balance budgets.

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    I thought some of you would be interested in these articles written by Prof Pushparatnam. They are in Tamil. Can be easily translated to other languages with few clicks in the browser. – Archaeological Excavations at Katukarai that reveal the Ancient History and Culture of Sri Lankan Tamils – Part 1 https://ezhunaonline.com/இலங்கைத்-தமிழரின்-பூர்வீ/

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      With all due respect to Prof. P, I think that he is often subjective in his guesswork like this is possible and that is possible.
      I think that Indrapala remains the best Tamil pre-historian.

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    According Hon CV Wigneswaran “The Tamils Are The Original Inhabitants Of Sri Lanka” https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-tamils-are-the-original-inhabitants-of-sri-lanka/

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      He concludes the article with “the Tamils were the Original inhabitants of this Island and there have been several waves of Tamil conquest but they only added to the Original indigenous Tamils who continued to live here from pre-historic times. Chola conquest was only one such intrusion from South India. Sinhala Language and Sinhala Race are very recent chronologically though the Sinhalese and the Tamils have had common progenitors from ancient times.”

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        “…Sinhala Language and Sinhala Race are very recent chronologically though the Sinhalese and the Tamils have had common progenitors from ancient times.””
        .
        Anyone who atleast has some understanding of evolutionary genetics would tell uou how tricky this statement is. Just to cut short going by the same logic, one could also claim Sinhalese and Tamils and dogs have common progenitors from ancient times. Does that make Sinhalese or Tamils, dogs? You could apply the same logic to Wigneswaran’s claim…. Have a great day!

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      CVW, the last word in scientific reasoning!
      Ask the criminal swami.

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        He swears by that criminal.

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      One who believes CVW’s utterances on such matters cannot be very clever.

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