26 October, 2021

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Social Democracy Or Far-Right Economics?

By Dayan Jayatilleka

Dr. Dayan Jayatilleka

The ongoing and deepening economic crisis is tailor-made for a ‘Premadasaist’ or ‘neo-Premadasist’ intervention, for two reasons:

(a) President Premadasa demonstrated that it is practically possible to revive economic growth, increase industrial exports and foreign investment while simultaneously, not sequentially, increasing the real wages of the people and reducing inequality

(b) The Opposition is led by his only son. It would be as absurdly incongruous for an Opposition party led by President Ranasinghe Premadasa’s son not to adopt Premadasa development policy as it would be someday for an opposition party led by Namal Rajapaksa, not have his father Mahinda Rajapaksa’s achievements as template and Mahinda Chinthanaya as the basis of its guiding ideology.

The situation is ripe for a progressive, social democratic, center-left Opposition with necessarily populist appeal, but how can the main Opposition party become a truly progressive centrist formation which can be a magnet for voters from the vast bloc that voted for the Rajapaksas/Pohottuwa? What must it do?

The answer to that is clear and simple, and it isn’t mine. Twenty years ago, the UNP held power at the presidential, parliamentary and Local authority levels. That was the last time it was to do so. The leader responsible for that achievement made a typically unorthodox and fascinating remark while addressing his last May Day rally in 1992, on Galle Face Green, a year before he was assassinated by a Tiger suicide-bomber. Premadasa made a pointed reference to SWRD Bandaranaike:

“…The late Prime Minister SWRD Bandaranaike…left the UNP and formed the Sri Lanka Freedom Party because he thought that his views cannot be implemented through the UNP. If one were to take into account the changes that have taken place in the UNP between then and now, I am sure that if he were still alive, he would have rejoined the UNP…When you look at it from that point of view, you will be able to guess which May Day rally he would have attended if he were alive—the rally at Galle Face or the one at Campbell Park.” (President Premadasa: His Vision and Mission, Selected Speeches, p 192)      

What Premadasa says here is that SWRD Bandaranaike with the center-left views (the SLFP’s founding document used the definition ‘social democratic’) he held at the time he ruptured with the UNP because he thought they could not be accommodated, would have felt compelled and comfortable enough to rejoin the UNP because it had been transformed so radically as to be able to accommodate such a personality and such views.

Translated into today’s politics, it can be understood as an injunction to the post-UNP successor party (led by Premadasa’s son) to be a party so transformed that it can win over the voters and personalities of the progressive center, the moderate nationalists, by representing their ideology, sentiments and grievances. In short, an Opposition party capable of winning over the center-left SLFP and SLPP voters; the Rajapaksa voters. 

However, there is at least one strategic problem: can the main Opposition party win over those voters if an archaic, conservative, rightist economic theory is propounded as an alternative to the government’s oligarchic crony-capitalism?

In short, the problem is that there is an ideological inclination on the part of some in society and politics, to ignore the Premadasa development model and philosophy, and elevate instead the rightwing economic doctrines that were dominant in the UNP pre-Premadasa presidency, when an imbalanced growth model caused the JVP uprising and then again under the infinitely prolonged (and conspicuously unsuccessful) leadership of Ranil Wickremesinghe.

In international terms these are the economic ideas of the likes of Arthur Laffer and the “supply siders” that President George HW Bush (Bush Sr.), a moderate Republican, derided as “voodoo economics”.

The UNP started losing, never winning a Presidential election and leading the nation and winning only two parliamentary elections 15 years apart with never a second consecutive term as government, when it dumped the Premadasa development paradigm and (under Ranil) shifted to neoliberal economics, or shifted back to the pre-Premadasa economic model which helped cause the Southern uprising.

It is irrational and counterproductive to revive and restore such a reactionary economic ideology, almost as reactionary as that of the current Rajapaksa regime’s economic ideology, in a post-UNP Opposition space, which because of its leadership and its Presidential candidate is more organically suited for a neo-Premadasist strategy for economic revival and social upliftment, which recovery from the current crisis demands.            

JR+Shenoy

A slightly surreal sloganistic tweet was doing the rounds recently, claiming that “we need JR+Shenoy reform once again”. This relates to the ideas of rightwing economist BR Shenoy who produced a pamphlet in 1966 which was adopted as a policy platform by JR Jayewardene, then a Minister in the Dudley Senanayake Cabinet of 1965-’70.

This policy perspective is wrong headed several times over, starting with the contextual fact that the JR+Shenoy platform was not intended as alternative to the parental precursor of the current Rajapaksa government’s policies, namely the Sirimavo Bandaranaike-NM Perera policies of the coalition government of 1970-’77.

The JRJ-Shenoy policy doctrine was one corner of an intra-governmental policy debate in the mid-1960s. Today it is being revived at the second corner of a bipolar patterning of policy discourse, i.e., in an unhealthy polarization.

As a precocious lad who spent time in the editorial offices of Lake House and hung out with my father and his journalist friends, I was quite aware of the Shenoy episode real-time, because he was tapped and his product promoted by Esmond Wickremesinghe, the Managing Director of Lake House (and Ranil’s brilliant father). That episode was part of a policy debate that buffeted the UNP government of Prime Minister Dudley Senanayake in 1965-1970.

Far from being the antipode of the statist closed economy of the Sirimavo regime, the JR+Shenoy (actually JR+Esmond+Shenoy) platform targeted the genuinely liberal-welfarist economics of the PM Dudley Senanayake and his Planning Ministry tzar, Dr Gamini Corea.

Looking back, it is absurd to exalt the JR+BR Shenoy line, when the logic of the Dudley Senanayake-Gamani Corea response at that time has been so clearly validated by our political history: “It is wiser to spend on welfare, than cut welfare and have to spend much more on military expenditure later.”

As the John Attygalle Report (he was the IGP, and the report was co-authored by D.I.G Ana Seneviratne) on the pre-1971 JVP revealed, and the statements of the accused in the main trial of the Criminal Justice Commission (CJC) confirmed, the movement was founded for armed revolution partly as a response to the ideological struggle within the UNP government. Rohana Wijeweera’s view was that the JR Jayewardene+ BR Shenoy project would require the ouster of the Senanayake faction, the installation of an Indonesian style dictatorship and the scrapping of national elections scheduled for 1970.

This was not as wildly outlandish as it seemed. The Indonesian coup and massacre had taken place in 1965.  Esmond Wickremesinghe and those who backed the JR+Shenoy program against Senanayake liberal-welfarism, were applauding the post-coup Indonesian economic model. My father Mervyn de Silva had been in Indonesia (with his family) at the invitation of President Sukarno’s Foreign Minister Dr. Subandrio for the celebration of the 10th anniversary of the Bandung conference– virtually on the eve of the coup. Mervyn was the last foreign journalist to interview DN Aidit, leader of the PKI (the Indonesian Communist Party) who was murdered by the Army a few months later while in hiding. My father was among the few (I’m being generous here) in the Lake House press writing against the Indonesian coup and the massacre of 1965.    

Coiled for armed resistance to a dictatorship which never came at the hands of the UNP Right led by JRJ equipped with the Shenoy agenda, the JVP uncorked uncontrollably on the watch of the elected successor government, the SLFP-led UF coalition in 1971.

It is not that today’s JVP or FSP is dabbling in any way with violent resistance or ever likely to, but a worker-peasant-student social movement radicalized by the policies and political culture of the Gotabaya presidency, has grown to almost the same capacity as in the 1960s, and if ‘JR+Shenoy’ economic policies are followed after the Rajapaksa regime is inevitably turfed-out, the social explosion will occur no less inevitably on the watch of the incoming ex-UNP administration.      

Premadasa+Gamani Corea+Godfrey Gunatilleke

Today’s Lankan economic neoliberals (who call themselves ‘economic liberals’) target a giant of Third World economic thinking, Raul Prebisch. The bridge to the tradition of Prebisch, and indeed the great Ceylonese contribution to the global economic debate, was not the Sirimavo Bandaranaike-NM Perera regime, but rather, through those who had been the targets of JRJ and Shenoy in the policy debate within precisely the UNP in 1965-1970: the liberal-welfarist progressives of the Planning Ministry under Prime Minister Dudley Senanayake, namely Dr. Gamani Corea and his deputy, Godfrey Gunatilleke.

In the 1970s, the Lankan node of that development thinking was the MARGA Institute, which was targeted by the UF coalition government, most especially Minister Felix Dias Bandaranaike.

Contemporary pundits of economic policy should spend some time in research at the library/documentation center of the Marga Institute, where they’d find more (progressive) ideas on development policy which they are allergic to, than at the NM Perera Center! 

The Gamani Corea-Godfrey Gunatilleke perspective that JRJ+BR Shenoy (plus Esmond Wickremesinghe) had targeted within the UNP government of 1965-1970 and eventually overthrown and supplanted, found itself revived, revised and reaccommodated within the economic paradigm of Ranasinghe Premadasa.

Prime Minister Premadasa’s extempore remarks at the panel discussion on the sidelines of the UNGA 1980; his invocation of justice for the global South at the UNGA and the Nonaligned Conference in Harare in 1986, are evidence of his commitment to the international tradition of development thinking which Dr. Gamani Corea was among the giants of, but is reviled by today’s para-UNP economic neoliberals. 

The formula ‘we need JR+Shenoy reform once again’ also overlooks the history of the evolution of policy within the UNP in the Opposition in 1970-1973. The Dudley Senanayake line was being eclipsed, the JRJ line was becoming dominant, but a third line was coming into view, which was to be validated by real history when the ‘JR+Shenoy’ project was a causative factor of the civil war in the south.

This ‘third paradigm’ was Ranasinghe Premadasa’s, an early articulation of which was his 4th April 1973 address to the Colombo West Rotary Club. He was so committed to that speech (delivered several years before Susil Sirivardhana joined him) that he republished it in the ‘SAARC Summit special supplement’ of the Daily News during his Presidency, accompanied by an introduction in bold type which read: “The seeds of today’s concepts were sown years ago…President Ranasinghe Premadasa, then First Member of Parliament for Colombo Central was invited by the Colombo West Rotary Club to deliver an address on the topic ‘A Plan for Sri Lanka’ at a luncheon meeting of the Club. The speech was delivered when President Ranasinghe Premadasa was only an Opposition member of Parliament and portrays the vision of a young politician of what he thought was the best for Sri Lanka”.

That he chose to reproduce it in the SAARC special supplement (1991) indicates that this perspective is one he wanted the outside world to know about, and which he hoped to radiate in the region. 

In April 1973, he wrestled with the same problem that the economy faces today– the crisis of foreign exchange and dependency—and gave an answer that is distinctively redolent of the Rooseveltian New Deal (his 1988 Presidential election manifesto was to be entitled ‘a New Vision, a New Deal’):

“…If the problems of foreign exchange, development and unemployment are to be satisfactorily tackled, a massive development venture has to be launched to provide the necessary infra-structure such as a network of roads, a network of electricity, a network of irrigation and a network of domestic water supply. With the launching of such a scheme large number of people could be gainfully employed. Together with development of the infrastructure the country’s agricultural and industrial ventures will automatically improve. As a result, foreign exchange could be conserved. People will get more money into their hands thus enabling them to purchase their requirements. The question of subsidies will eventually be eliminated. We can solve our problems. Scarcity of foreign exchange is no obstacle. To earn foreign exchange, we must increase production; to increase production we must develop our national resources, and if we are to develop our national resources, we must harness the human potential that we have in abundance. It is futile to go on bended knees to foreign countries begging for assistance…” (Republished as ‘People’s Participation in Government’, CDN Nov. 21, 1991.) 

After the UNP victory of 1977 and the installation of ‘JR+Shenoy reforms’ the evidence of its downside piled up in the 1980s from the reports of various UN agencies which had replaced ‘classical liberal economics’ with indices of inequality, the physical quality of life index (PQLI) and later the Human Development report (HDR), under the intellectual impact of a global struggle for ‘Another Development’ (as it was conceptualized) in which Gamini Corea and Godfrey Gunatilleke were the foremost Sri Lankan figures.

Prime Minister Premadasa appointed the Warnasena Rasaputram Commission. Janasaviya was Premadasa’s response to the revelations of the Rasaputram Report. The hubris of the Open economy and the ‘JR +Shenoy reform’ model had evaporated with the bloody near-extermination of the UNP in the latter half of the 1980s by Sinhala youth from the South (just as Premadasa had predicted).

JR+Shenoy? Or Premadasa Paradigm?

This was Premadasa’s perspective on the open economy:

“In a world of economic interdependence, those who are self-dependent grow in strength. We live in a world society. We cannot close ourselves off from the world. Yet, we must be free to live and develop as we wish to. We will provide all the conditions for economic growth in an open economy. But, an open economy does not mean an economy dictated to by others. An open economy does not mean an economy run for the benefit of others. An open economy must first benefit Sri Lankans before it benefits outsiders.” (‘Address at the Inauguration of the Koggala Export Processing Zone’-June 14th 1991, in ‘President Premadasa: His Vision & Mission-Selected Speeches’, pp 89-92.)

The Premadasa economic philosophy, though partly based on the Open Economy, is not that of ‘JR+BR Shenoy reforms’ of 1977 still less of 1966. It is a different, far more progressive policy paradigm or economic episteme. It is Sri Lankan Social Democracy.

President Premadasa shared a loyalty to the open-economy, the market, and economic liberalization but he was not an ‘economic liberal’ not was his policy paradigm one of ‘liberal economics’. “If anything, I am for economic democracy” he told civil service legend Neville Jayaweera in a substantive interview given to the latter published as ‘Charter for Democracy’ (1990). For him, ‘economic democracy’ meant “turning the nation into one where ‘have-nots’ become ‘haves’”.

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    Sir what is the way forward,and how can we progress……….regardless….as we knows lot of damages being done/still carrying on …….you guys have dual citizenship and your siblings are safe and fine ….unite the people and work out for the ordinary..

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      …The way forward……
      What we need is not theoretical mumbo jumbo analysis but just a good down to earth ONE GOOD LEADER. Shades of LKY but to any who say his methods were tyrannical or punitive, the end stands justified.
      See Ruanda’s success.
      https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2019/10/21/kagames-rwanda-is-still-africas-most-inspiring-success-story

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        My dear AKD explains it as nobody would do it better.
        :
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToIqIlmEyZc
        :
        It is just the INERIORITY complex of brutal Rajapakshes dont seem to leave even the ELEPHANTs who are held as one of the innocient animals.
        :

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        Rwanda started its true development after the genocide but it still lags behind SL so not a good role model.

        Singapore developed thanks to becoming a Chinese outpost.

        Both are bad comparables for SL.

        Only way forward for SL is to split the island into 3 mono ethnic nations and relocate people. Even Singapore split from Malaysia. If Singapore remained in Malaysia both would be poor. It is not politicians that is ruining SL; it is the people. There is NO unity among people on national policy. None. Creating 3 independent nations is the only way forward. Until then it is the same old since 1948. Fairy tales and more fairy tales.

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      Dear DJ,

      thanks for coming back with a new article. I thought you would hav ebeen posted to HINDIA…. or australia…… because we did not hear from you for the last few weeks…….

      However, SOCIAL DEMOCRATISM – could work in our country, if the leader would have brains. Rajapkashes have proved it within last 2 years what their capabilities are. Until today, they ve been not serioius enough with amelioration of the suffering problems of the people. At least GOTA has failed to distribute free granted jabs to the people who are really in need. Now not having exposed what the bugger et al (siblings and their kith and kin) were treated with, he is attending UN assembly… nothing is tranparent today…… with his business men becoming billionaires through import of PCR kits, antigen kits and other medicine, ….. people are thrown to thrash bin…. shamelessly, bugger is uttering lies before NY gathering…… ” we are successful with the vaccination to the people” as if we as developing nation, vaccines are new to us…. WHO is well aware of the fact … srilanka has been maintaining…. best regional levels adminsitrative systems for vaccinations or the like health mechnisms, but ballige puthas…. make every effort to earn bonus points… trying to make overestimations and fooling the nation.

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        “Far-Right Economics”

        Don’t think any one of the 3 sitting in this photograph knows right from left.

        When Basil was pumping gas ………. when he was told the gas tank was on the right he always went to the left.

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          nimal fernando

          “When Basil was pumping gas ………. when he was told the gas tank was on the right he always went to the left.”

          It is not a question of Left or Right, its a matter of Right or Wrong.

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    From Bandaranaike onwards, it was not economic but Sinhala-Buddhist chauvinism that was the determining factor in the politics of the country. The electorate did not understand the subtleties of the distinctions between the economic policies of the rival chauvinists. The sole issue was which leader outdid the other in his chauvinism. The Rajapakses outdid all of them. Got 6.9 morons to vote for them,, not through economic programmes but through a mixture of fear, nationalism and personality politics. The authoritarian politics that has been created in the country depends on the personality which is plugged by this writer as well though hidden under economic clouds. The issue in Sinhala politics will be which moron can outwit the other, despite his extensive corruption, through Sinhala chauvinism. Unfortunately, Tamil politics has become the mirror image of Sinhala politics. It depends on who can shout the loudest about war crimes etc, not who can do good for the people. We will stumble along cheating each other.

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      “President Premadasa demonstrated that it is practically possible to revive economic growth, increase industrial exports”
      Let us not forget that he was the only president who received a firecracker salute on his unexpected demise. Sad, no?

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        OC
        I think that you are too hard on RP.
        DJ’s superlatives should not provoke you to deny credit where it is due.
        Many engineers I know swear that RP as a minister was a far more competent administrator that many of his colleagues predecessors.

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          Premadasa, not only as a minister, but as President as well,was a task master and a man in a hurry.

          He cannot believe his own mercurial rise despite his caste origin and his lack of education and became suspicious of everyone around him, that caused his downfall

          It is a pity !

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          S.J,
          I think his good qualities were more than offset by superstition, paranoia, and stupidities like arming the LTTE.

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        old codger
        Please note as usual Dayan drops names
        “Social Democracy Or Far-Right Economics?”

        My Elders tell me there are a few schools of economic thoughts known to mankind and classified the subject as follows:
        Classical School
        Neo-classical
        New classical
        Keynesian economics
        ….
        …..

        I am confused.
        Moses parted the sea and lead the followers to promised land(?).
        Can you also do the same here and now?

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          Yes NV,
          Dayan read a lot in his younger days, without ever understanding a word of it, but vomit just to impress.
          it is fashionable to be a Marxist in those days and engaged in hair splitting arguments and exhibit his knowledge by dropping names to look and feel like an intellectual..
          His father on the other hand was learned, assimilated and internalized what he had learnt and in the process became a real intellectual and was a master interpreter of his times,- both international and national as well !
          Mervyn was a real outstanding thinker, the country could be proud of

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    Dr. Dayan Jeyatilake has now become a joker in Sri lankan politics. He must be suffering from early dementia. He is creating an equation that Sajith Premadasa= Ranasinghe Premadas like Namal Rajapaksa = Mahinda Rajapaksa. What a wonderful leftist?
    But he forget that Mahinda Rajapaksa= Gotabaya Rajapaksa=Basil Rajapaksa
    Power Greediness, Corruption Masters, Abduction and Murders.

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      Ajith,
      .
      why you say, “Dr. Dayan Jeyatilake has now become a joker in Sri lankan politics”?????

      were you out of focus all these years how he reacted ?

      He has always been inconsistent…… he is very like selfish guy….. may be he is suffering from the same disease which is affected on Prof. GLP.
      .
      For some unknown reasons, these men behave, as if all srilankens are born modayas.

      Immediately after GONATHANDIYA aka Mahinda was defeated and hung by his balls on his own windows, DJ was seen like their family pet…. we could not believe our eyes, but DJ playing on Mahinda’s laps….. this became however different… immediately, polonnaruwe donkey called him and offered a job post to Russia. After becoming high commissioner to RUSSIA… he became silent….. it is almost like … until baby cries, … you can give them soothing gadget.s… so called senior politicians and their tactics always tame the kind of men including GLP.

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      Ajith

      “Dr. Dayan Jeyatilake has now become a joker in Sri lankan politics.”

      Now???????????????

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    What we now need is a miracle.

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      nimal fernando

      I have asked old codger to perform it.

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        Native,
        I am looking for some wine to turn into water.

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      NF,
      .
      what kind of a miracle ?

      Rajapakshes will be short-lived- all signs are there.
      :
      Domino effect would work on them ” as collected KARMIC retribution” sooner than later. Not to comfort, but wait and see.

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    (c) The Opposition is led by his only son. It would be as absurdly incongruous for an Opposition party led by President Ranasinghe Premadasa’s son not to adopt Premadasa Bheeshanaya methodology in case of another youth uprising.

    Soma

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      soman

      “…………………………… not to adopt Premadasa Bheeshanaya methodology in case of another youth uprising.”

      Of course your demand is reasonable or any descent member of voting public would desire it, however it is always better to keep in mind the perpetrators who operated or part of the dead squad, now holding top positions in government, opposition, diplomatic services, …… talking crap at UN General Assembly.

      Using all your national and international contacts find out from Baron Naseby who was in overall charge of the dead squads between 1983 and 2009 including between 1987 and 1991.

      It will help you to wipe off your own guilt.

      By the way times are hard now don’t you think Gota needs a good riots, then he will have an excuse to blame JVP/LTTE, impose total control over democratic institutions and people who genuinely care about democracy (I am not talking about you, SJ, EE, … Dayan, Ravi Perera, HLDM, Wasala, Asgiria …. all other Sinhala/Buddhist Fascist Tendencies)?

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    Can some kind soul please tell me what a ‘neo-Premadasist intervention’ is? Has it something to do with the time our servant boy lost his sarong at Galle Face?

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      Paul,
      Another person lost his pants at Kanatta.

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        old codger, nimal fernando, all good souls,

        I am planning to write an article, I have all the words to type/drop where unnecessary. However I don’t have abstract, introduction, methods, results, discussion, conclusion and references.

        Could you help me to find all those right stuff so that I could WRITE a brilliant article. I don’t mind a recycled one as I believe no reader would know.

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          Native,
          I hear that if you hired 1000 chimpanzees and gave them typewriters, they would eventually do the job as well as some we know.

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            I thought Native has already employed 1000 monkeys to produce his comments.

            Soma

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              Soma,
              You would have guessed correct had you had said that some comments are from donkeys. Who employs them is a tough call.

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              soman

              Watch this:

              PHIL SILVERS & ZIPPY THE CHIMP – 1956 – “Harry Speakup”
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr2171o39HM

              You will understand.
              Is this how Sri Lanka Army recruited Shavendra, Kamala Gunaratne, …..15,000 single handed generals?

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            old codger

            “I hear that if you hired 1000 chimpanzees and gave them typewriters, they would eventually do the job as well as some we know.”

            Did you mean Infinite monkey theorem?

            Here is an news item on monkeys typing Shakespeare’s work
            Virtual monkeys write Shakespeare
            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15060310
            Please refer to last para.

            More fun here with Chimp being recruited by US army:
            PHIL SILVERS & ZIPPY THE CHIMP – 1956 – “Harry Speakup”
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr2171o39HM
            Please sit back and enjoy.
            We do see lot of them are actively serving in …………………….

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              Native,
              Yes!

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              Hi NV,

              Socail Democrats won the election in Germany even if Dr Merkel did lot more good to the nation during her CDC/CSU coalition govt.

              In Germany, nothing will change a lot even if SPD (social democracts) are back to power.

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                leelagemalli

                “In Germany, nothing will change a lot even if SPD (social democracts) are back to power.”

                Of course these are relatively mature democracies where somehow they have reached a consensus on Social Democracy.

                The madness of establishing Communism and National Socialism (Nazism) as a panacea has been abandoned for a foreseeable future.

                In Sri Lanka Gota and his goons are trying to invent fire, wheel and Zero. It appears the saffron brigade is helping him.

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        OC,
        .
        tell us please more about his “becoming archimidis” on that day… I only heard he went on the street as free nudist right – was that a rumour ?
        .
        omg, DJ and his performances !

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          LM,
          It is true. But we are not allowed to talk about personal experiences of some people. You get it, I hope?

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