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The Tamil National Question & The President’s Hypocrisy

By M.A.Sumanthiran

M.A Sumanthiran MP

Thank you Hon. Chair for the time allocated to speak a few words on these heads of expenditure. We have had an interesting debate so far, with his Excellency also participating. One of the institutions under consideration is the constitutional council, many things have been said today back and forth about the constitutional council but I want to raise a more fundamental issue. 

There is a vacancy in the constitutional council; all ten members have not been appointed, this is a very serious issue, it’s a very serious issue for us. Because we were entitled to nominate a member, and such a meeting was held, and I proposed a senior parliamentarian Hon. Dharmalingam Siddharthan to be that member in the constitutional council. But to date he has not been appointed to the constitutional council. We have raised this many times; the leader of the opposition has raised in Parliament, at the party leaders’ meeting, and the Hon. Speaker has clearly said that it is our right. In fact others who are claiming to have a right to nominate are all members of the Sri Lanka Podujana Peramuna. The general secretary of Sri Lanka Podujana Peramuna has written to the speaker and said that they are members of the Sri Lanka Podujana Peramuna, if they are not members of the SLPP, they can’t be members of parliament. So they can’t claim to be ones who have the right to nominate this member to the constitutional council. But this is not just a technicality, by this, the 3rd largest party in parliament, the second largest party in the opposition, has been deprived of our right to participate in the deliberations of the constitutional council. 

And what has that resulted in? The President says from the time he took over as Prime Minister and then President, that he’ll resolve the Tamil National Question. He had three all Party conferences: one last year, and two this year for that very purpose. But he is unable to or even this House is unable to resolve this one issue. This is a no-brainer. You keep us out of the constitutional council, and then you talk about resolving the Tamil National Question in a just manner. How can you do that? You can’t even fill that vacancy. Now this has come into sharp focus a few days ago. There is a deadlock – there is a deadlock situation in the constitutional council and everybody knows about this. A deadlock situation when one seat is still vacant. If that had been filled, there wouldn’t have been a deadlock. So the county must know, that while you wax eloquent saying all are equal and everyone in this country has equal representation, to a body like the constitutional council which is a very important body, you still deprived us of our place. And how can you face anyone and claim that this is governance in the right way. So today I am raising this as serious issue. Not just filling a vacancy in the constitutional council, but as a serious national issue. We have complained, have complained for several decades; is that we have been left out of the national life of this county. Being kept out of the constitutional council is another reflection. Another example of that, which is continuing to date.

In 1972 when the first republican constitution was enacted, you called it autochthonous constitution.  But we were left out in the cold. Every single fundamental resolution that was passed, was passed with the majority vote. And incidentally, incidentally it is Hon. Dharmalingam Siddharthan’s father, Mr. V. Dharmalingam then the MP of the federal party – Ilankai Thamilarasu Katchi, who moved amendments to those fundamental resolutions. Every one of those resolutions was defeated by 84 to 16, 82 to 13, majoritarian, and that’s how we went out and that’s how it became necessary for our party to join hands with All Ceylon Tamil Congress and CWC and start Tamil United Front in 1976. That’s what led to the Vaddukoddai resolution, all that we said was if you can’t accommodate us, if you can’t give us our due place, then let us go, why are you holding on to us, we have our own way, that’s what we said, that’s what led to a 3 decade old war, but you are still doing that, even today you are doing that, more than a year, you kept us out of the constitutional council, it is our right. I don’t think I will want to say this in this House any more. We are not beggars; we are not beggars in this country to come begging you to give us this and that. We are a People! We are a People with a heritage, we’ve lived in this country as long as anybody else lived in this country. So if you think, because of your superior numbers, you can trample upon our rights, you are mistaken, you are totally mistaken. We will not cow down to such efforts. Majoritarian rule, we will not accept. Till the last person lives in this country we will not accept that. This week is an important week; this is a week in which we honour the dead who fought for us. Who fought for us! I am not hesitant to say it in that way. Why did they fight for us? Because we were thrown out of the national life, there was no other way, things went wrong, we are not in that mode anymore, and we have expressly said we are willing to live within one, united, undivided, indivisible country. We are yet willing, but then how has it been reciprocated? How is that being reciprocated? It’s up to you, you have to decide. You can’t just string us along all the time. And it is important while the relatives and others in the North and East remember their dead. I say in this house: don’t take us for granted. Superior number doesn’t make you right, superior numbers often make you wrong. Because you think you can bulldoze your way with your numbers. That’s what you do in this house also. That’s what you do in this house also.

I must put something else also right. Today also His Excellency said the opposition leader was invited to form a government, and he did not do that, and that’s a violation of the public trust. That’s wrong, he’s wrong, President was wrong about many fronts today. When he described the constitutional council as part of the executive, he was wrong; you don’t have part of the executive something that the Speaker presides! That’s part of the legislative structure. He was wrong, because the entire opposition had agreed on something at that appointing time. And there was a document, a national plan that was formulated by the Bar Association of Sri Lanka. And that gave certain time lines to the then President Gotabaya Rajapaksa. So that he would go out gracefully and executive presidency would abolished. And that if he agreed to that, the opposition leader would take over as Prime Minister. That was the agreement, we as a party was agreed to that, the JVP was agreed to that, the SJB was agreed to that. His excellency as a single member was agreed to that. He violated that. That is why I was the first person here in this house when he took over as Prime Minister, I told him this is a shameful conduct. He was very upset over that, but it was in fact a shameful conduct by him. That he breached, the agreement that all oppositions have taken together. And a single person ran and took that office for a mess of potage. He violated that agreement. So I am not defending the leader of the opposition but I think it is time even after a lapse of one full year, that I put the record right. There was that agreement that was violated by his Excellency the President because he saw a crack in the door. He was opportunistic; he put his foot in there, got in there and became the Executive President of this country. The UNP under him in 1996 in Hambantota had passed a resolution to abolish executive presidency. Now there’s no talk about that. Now there’s no talk about that. Violation of public trust is a very very serious matter. The reply his excellency gave today amounts to nothing. If you have violated public trust and that’s a pronouncement of the highest court in the country, those persons have been named have no moral right to sit in this house anymore. In another place – in a mature democracy they would have resigned, in another place where they value democracy, where there is value for rule of law, those persons who are found to have violated the public trust would have resigned the next day. But not the Rajapaksas. They don’t care two hoots, whether it is the public trust or whatever that they have violated. It is only their family and the loot that they have taken from this country that they are concerned about. They can remain that way, but they will have to face the serious ire of the citizens of this country, if they don’t even at this point of time respect rule of law, accept responsibility and bow out of this house. They have no right to continue as representatives of the people in this house. There is only one person there, President Mahinda Rajapaksa, but he must resign, if he has any semblance of a sense of dignity, and if he respects rule of law, if he respects democracy, he must promptly resign and accept responsibility. His Excellency the President Ranil Wickremesinghe, I remember in 2015 at the budget, he spoke volumes, the fact that President Maithripala Sirisena’s expenditure then compared to his predecessors was almost half, but that’s not what we see today. The President’s expenditure is far more than what was there in last year’s budget. So we see a huge shift in his perspective even with regard to allocations for expenditure. 

Thank you. 

*Speech made in Parliament on 22.11.2023

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  • 3
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    Doesn’t he sound like LTTE. What does it mean. LTTE is a group of freedom fighters or Sumanthiran a terrorist

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      D
      You know what’s happening in Gaza Isreal its happening in our own back yard.we had full sanctions no electricity no gas no medicine we had showers of bombs and shells.every houses we had bunkers. Who exactly terrorised the innocents now you are telling suman is a terrorist these are the sort of people we have can read and write. Learn the meaning of atrocities genocide mayhem…..burnt down the houses buissnes places sacred library you all treated as a enemy country who separates the country you or us

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        c
        The people of Gaza did not have bunkers either.
        Let not self-pity destroy one’s sense of proportion.

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          Let not self-pity destroy one’s sense of proportion.

          Gaza has a population of 2.2 million. The North had 700,00 thousand when the war was raging. Entire country’s Ceylon Tamil population was 2.1M according to the CIA.
          165,000 Tamils were murdered to save 430,000, in the Human Rights Rescue Mission operation.
          Israel is in a war out-rightly declared against Gaza’s 2.2 M population. Only 14,000 reported as killed.

          Could you bring your math so we can check it?

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      Dilshan,
      Doesn’t he sound like LTTE?
      This is the attitude of Buddhist Sinhala Fundamentalists for past seven decades. When Sinhalese thugs who burnt the ordinary Tamils in Colombo and your police and military just enjoyed the massacres. Did you ask yourself “Doesn’t I sound like LTTE”?
      Simply put that all in LTTE and you are hero Sinhala. You may say even the Easter Bombing is done by LTTE and you will become a Buddhist Hero today.
      You are afraid of truth.

    • 11
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      None of the contentions are accurate!!?? LTTE is long gone!! You’re Chasing Shadows!! Get Real!!??? Repeating the mistake of 20 Years Preceding the “30 Year War”!!!??? Misdirection, Deflection and most importantly, ‘OBFUSCATION’!!!??? The sin that all Governments and Leaders of Southern Polity did since independence, resulting in the DIRE STRAITS that Sri Lanka has befallen!!!???

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        “LTTE is long gone!!”
        Are you sure when you read some of the stuff here?

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          LTTE as known – recognised and acted – pre-05/2009 isn’t there anymore!!!??? Some remind themselves intermittently of those “salivating” memories to warm the Cockles of their heart and tickle, bemuse, simulate to titillate, refresh memories of “good times they had enjoyed” because of the Lame excuses provided to overcome one and all ills and obstacles in Sri Lankan life!!!???
          Why not!!!???

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      Ranil is not trying to solve the problem, he is trying to Dissolve the TNA. Already he speaks only about the North and does not include the East. The TNA pretends not to know his ‘bloody’ scheme.

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      May all be heard.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0bxD1CGrX8

      The truth of Rajapkshe PATTA PAL horu..

      The day, Wimal Buruwanse or the like are hanged by their balls will be the day of the new begining to a new episode of this country.

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    “The Tamil National Question & The President’s Hypocrisy”

    Welcome to the party/realization …….. better late than never! :)))



    A pol who says never, is miles honest/better than Ranil who plays games …….. dangling carrots.


    For some, Ranil’s carrots are low-hanging fruit …….. or should it be veggies? :))

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    This SL demo led to dictatorship one man show Gota proofed how dangerous can lead to.
    Jr Prema very hot on SLC is that need of the hour.
    Suman should go to Kandy first speak to Mullas and explain the plight of the dire situation.
    Look at our education system women to ME men to Isreal farming then Korea and Japan.the principal who forced students to eat eat the plastics and papers of wraped lunch parcels being transferd to another school. The students being hospitalised. Instead he
    should have charged for manslaughter .but proud as a nation to preserve the 2500 with the help of 69 kiri bath eaters. Among them are getting free bus riders Rs 5000 rice pkt and a 1/4 of arrack to keep the democrazy. Jai wewa

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      “Suman should go to Kandy first speak to Mullah’s and explain the plight of the dire situation.”
      Nothing would eventuate out of that speaking!!!???
      First and foremost, the Mullah’s would determine, request and require compliance, to Suman, whom from all available accounts, realise is devout Christian Tamil to CONVERT, as Sinhala Buddhist, before he could plead on any matter NATIONALE’!!!???
      THAT IS A NON-EVENT!!!???
      Even with the “Stellar Passion of Suman” as an ADHERENT OF A PATRIOTIC NATIONALIST, in seeking to preserve SL in Two-State Unified Nation – Republic of Sri Lanka!!!???

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    This represents the last part of the speech, doesn’t it?
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    VID-20231123-WA0002.mp4

    (20,261K)
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    Sumanthiran delivers it such great passion. Can we have the entire speech, please, in a better quality video than this?
    .
    I’m glad to have it even in this form, but I wish I were young enough to work out the technicalities of putting it all on. I’m older than the villain, Ranil.
    .
    Panini Edirisinhe of Bandarawela (NIC 483111444V)

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      SM
      Do you know how dangerous to display your NIC no.anyone can get a SIM on your name make up street for Bandarawela and threaten Ranil or Suman

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        Dear cugan,
        .
        I’ve been revealing my name when saying something all my life. Specifically, I began to comment on CT in January 2015 when we were allowed to access some previously banned websites. By about April 2015, I had become regular on CT, and I have even written some articles – e.g.
        .
        https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/challenging-three-cheating-thomian-pharisees-and-not-doing-it-from-behind/
        .
        Those problems relating to cheating the teachers in those schools persist. More importantly the time to put that right is the first three months of 2024. I know that I’m the only guy who knows enough to even make a start. At age 75, there is no reward that I can live long enough to enjoy.
        .
        I know that I’m running huge risks. I have calculated, and take them.
        .
        To get a SIM one has to produce one’s original NIC, and they keep a certified copy. That’s the rule. Obviously in this land rules seem to be there only to be broken.
        .
        Sincere thanks to you for your concern for me.

        .

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          Dear S-M: Please do take the advice of “Cugan”. Today the world is changing fast with “AI” and the “Crooks” are thriving in business. Your “NIC” number is enough to produce a “Duplicate” (in real form). Imagine, even Shiranthi Rajapakse produced a “NIC” bearing fake “NIC” numbers with “2222222222” and so with Wimal Weerawanse and his wife. There is a classic example of a “Minster of State” (presently sitting in Parliament who has produced such “NIC” to obtain a Passport. So your idea of requiring “one’s original NIC” is too old and outdated.

          During this Summer I was with my son and daughter. Just imagine, my daughter’s, neighbor’s “Luxury” SUV that contained all the safety features was stolen while it was parked in the driveway. The thieves had a “Device” to open the doors and start the vehicle without the original keys. That is the world we live in today.

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        Dear cugan and Douglas,
        .
        PART ONE of many

        .
        I’m touched by the sincere concern that both of you show for my safety. However, although there is an element of risk in everything that we do, I don’t think it much in practice.
        .
        I got back safely to Bandarawela on Friday the 17th November 2023 in the train that left the Colombo Fort Railway Station at 5.50 am, in safety and comfort, and enjoyed myself greatly, forgetting that there had to be an outlay of Rs 3,000/= for the ticket. I often travel First Class for free because I get warrants by virtue of having served 29 years in the Ministry of Education.
        .
        I have met Ranil once (by now he would realise when and in what circumstances – and that is directly related to my saying so much about myself.) He must be furious with me, but although a vengeful guy, I don’t think that he will send someone to “comfort me” with a bullet through the head.
        .
        Panini Edirisinhe of Bandarawela (NIC 483111444V)

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    Mr. Sumanthiran: You speak of this President’s “Hypocracy”.

    I would like to ask you: How many “Presidents’ Hypocracys” have you EXPERIENCED so far?

    You too never learn, Mr. Sumanthira.

    You heard what this President said yesterday in Parliament about this “Constitutional Council” and has he taken any recognition of its BEING while extending the services of a retired IGP? He also indicated what he was going to do with it. Even he stated what he was going to do with the sessions (Business Agenda) of Parliament decided by Party Leaders.

    Still, you want a “Representation”? You are running behind until that “something” falls off the goat.

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    Ranil has always been a wolf in sheep’s clothing! Do you remember how UNP under his watch appointed Sajith to be the Presidential Candidate and then he pulled the rug under Sajith? No one can ever trust him. Although he promised to resolve minority issues, like all other promises he makes which are always to come in the future never arrives. The minority issue is also the same.

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    An ugly old man who has abused the English language, parliament, religion, suit & tie, the law, social attitudes ( which hold his type high), ,royal college, cricket -using all these in a way that they were never meant for.

    All the statistics show that when ever RW ruled, the country did as badly or worse than Rajapaksa rule. ( loans, corruption, abuse, mismanagement)

    Some hypocritical guys always throw up the Rajapaksa issue. They are two sides of one coin.

    A ‘godaya’ abusing us or a pretender to elite qualities abusing us.

    • 12
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      DS,
      “An ugly old man who has abused the English language, parliament, religion, suit & tie, the law, social attitudes ( which hold his type high),”
      So that’s what you think of Mr. Abraham Sumanthiran? From someone with your beauty, that’s so interesting….

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        Sick old codger , you argue just like your idol RW ! Do you laugh like him too , that insane laugh !

        As you are an old codger I hope you brush your teeth well. There is this bad odour in old men …

        As to my beauty, do you use such sexist references on your mother, wife, sister, daughter etc ?

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        OC,
        I really don’t know why this racist woman [in 70 ties ] does nt seem think before adding the kind of provocative statements.
        .
        Above all the kind of women should nt attack minority srilankens this way. Racism against Indians and Parkistanis in UK is on a rise with high unemployment rates in some parts of that country 😳.

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          Leela
          King is a Christian PM is a Hidu the mayor London( being elected twice) a Muslim
          Leave behind your “pol ” mind

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            Cugan,
            Whoever you are, don’t you know the same is true of the US, yet they treat minorities equally?

            I myself knew several colleagues who, despite all the advanced qualifications in medicine, did not rank above their white colleagues in the UK. Some of them are from India and others from Sri Lanka. So how do I own the “coconut/POL” mindset? So please be aware of the facts before attacking others. This stupid woman by name, Deepthi lives alone but loves only white men.

            We never heard her white neighbors criticize her. It is worth listening to them. Whatever the woman said is beyond malicious. She doesn’t seem to know what does she throw out of her botox injected lips. She is yet to today, supporting most criminal Rajapakshes. So how can she ever be neutral ?

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        OC,

        Not that I agree with her/his views, but I think DS is referring to RW, not AS.

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          Agnos,
          I know, I got the results I expected. 🤣🤣

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            AGNOS, you should have known, like Ranil, your CODGER guy also makes no mistakes !

            Even his mistakes/failures are planned parts of a scheme !! Perfect minds !!

            Only this failed country can produce such egos. Perhaps the reason for the failure. Also a failure in their upbringing and decency.

            No other human being will claim a permanent state of perfection !! Except Ranil & and his bumming friend Codger. No other human is as stupid to claim such a state

            These two guys should be permanently in Angoda .

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              What about you yourself Deepti Silva?

              Where should you be sent ? To the place of Ghanakka? Why on earth does a woman of your age (70 or more) behave like a child? Not even leaf blowing migrants dont behave like that but you do.

              We should better interview your English neigbours , then we would be clear, how miserable person you should be

              The reason for the downfall of Sri Lanka is not RW or anyone else but the Rajapaksas. SRILANKEN SC has proved it now not me. Some people like you hardly believe that Rajapaksa should be hanged because gullible people like you will never grasp it.

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        “So that’s what you think of Mr. Abraham Sumanthiran? From someone with your beauty, that’s so interesting….”
        Old,
        You fired your gun too quick, man. You could have left the first sentence in the above quotation or the second sentence. Because when you go to the start and read the way Deepthi has used ugly, it is very decent usage. It seems like she purposely avoided calling Sumanthiran “handsome”; had she, then it might have taken the meaning of generous or plenty.

        Here, Deepthi Silva’s, Sinhala_Buddhist_Man, two of the opposition party commentators look here pretty adorable.

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          “Agnos,
          I know, I got the results I expected. 🤣🤣”
          *
          “You fired your gun too quick”
          I wonder who!

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            It appears somebody implying a lot of things that I didn’t tell in that comment. Sad fact is I cannot keep repeating that I didn’t say that, or I didn’t say this. So let me stress what I said.
            I said, “she avoided calling Sumanthiran “handsome”; Old was asking a question from Deepthi Silva: “So that’s what you think of Mr. Abraham Sumanthiran?”; my answer for him on behalf of her is “She did not call Sumanthiran as handsome.” Old was concerned about the usage of ugly. Old appears to think she referred to MAS as ugly. If Sumanthiran criticizes Evil, it is something agreeable for her. Old Support Evil. So, what should be agreeable for Old is “Sumanthiran did not shine handsome while performing his speech”. I was trying to cool Old interpreting “Ugly” was qualifying Evil’s nature, not physical. I had explained that if she had used Handsome and said a line about Sumanthiran who had eloquently criticized Evil, then also, in parallel to the new interpretation with her usage of Ugly on Evil, the handsome would be interpreted as performance, not physical appearance. “The usage of ugly goes well interpreted if it was taken as ugly nature, though it comes next to “old “. So, you take it as ugly Man + old Man. The harmless old stay as physical description, but ugly denotes condemn-able behaviors of Evil.

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            Then the use of ugly is decent usage, when it is taken as independently describing his behavior not the physical attributes. She did not adore Sumanthiran’s essay either, which severely castigated Evil. She took an independent path on that too. So did not praise Sumanthiran as have written a handsome description of Evil. There also, the word handsome is not a physical description. Sumanthiran attacked Evil’s policies in the parliament. But Sumanthiran wasted his life promoting UNP from the time Sampanthar Aiyya recruited him to TNA. He was recruited to TNA to take over the leadership. It did not happen because of MAS’s behavior. Though there are some points in Sumanthiran speech, it is hard to take as it is for Tamils because Sumanthiran has his legacy badly impaired. He needs to rehabilitate his image before he expects Tamils to buy his talks. That is why I said while Sumanthiran’s speech can be rated as good oratory, he doesn’t deserve praise for that speech. Though Deepthi silva wrote her comment on Sumanthiran’s speech, she completely ignored his speech, so did not call it a handsome deliverance. That is her congenital deep south racism!
            But it is true that I was too economical with words on that forging comment. It leaves ambiguity on identification for those who shoot their guns too quickly.

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          Who is “Sinhala_Buddhist_Man”, dear Mallaiyuran.
          .
          Is there such a person? Does he exist?
          .
          There’s nothing wrong in being a Buddhist. What little I really know compels me to respect it.
          .
          However, I was not born a Buddhist. Who was?
          .
          Panini Edirisinhe of Bandarawela

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            I didn’t want to say any more,
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            To undo the italics that I have unleashed.
            .

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        I need help here, old codger.
        You think that deepthi silva spoke of Sumanthiran?
        I thought, of Ranil.

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          Nathan,
          Just providing some provocation for a bored “aachchi” 🤣🤣🤣

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            OC, does she too carry and distribute Valuables like “Daisy aachchi” in a ‘Malla’!!!??? If, yes, then am Keenly interested, in the aachchi, even boring though!!!??? Precious Indeed!!!

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          Nathan,
          .
          When Deepti, an old migrant woman from Sri Lanka living alone in the UK, points at someone, she doesn’t know what her lips throw out. Poor lonely woman, … the only hobby she enjoys is hitting on someone in CT … that might bring some fun to her little head. …how can this person ever be a medical doctor ?

          So why bother? There are plenty of women in PISSANKOTUWA (psychiatric wards) too. We should treat them with some empathy.
          .
          She has a lot in common with our Bandarawella clown (so called sinhala_man). Little does he EVER know that we are less interested in his personal things like his bedtimes, travel times and all other privacy talks. It seems that his 29 years of teaching carrier ( to whom ?) have not put him in the right place..

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        OC,
        Think DS, referring to RW, Not Suman!!! The latter is not a Royalist, to best of my knowledge!!!???

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      deepthi desperate silva

      “A ‘godaya’ abusing us or a pretender to elite qualities abusing us.”

      All transients and invited and uninvited guests grope our women folks. Do you know why? All stupid leaders of this island haven’t treated the people well.

      Ask your fellow dumb asses to treat the people well and see what happens. The foreigners will stop groping you and others.

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        Native,
        “The foreigners will stop groping you and others.”
        No, maybe she likes it.

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          Who can rehabilitate Deepthi Achchi?
          .
          Why does she behave constantly like a blind person?.
          .
          This woman should be not normal. Ayyo 😳😳😳😳

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          old codger

          “No, maybe she likes it.”

          You mean she/he will ask for more.

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        Oh unwashed Vedda, like you , do all your kind lack class ?

        Where do Veddas wash ? They did not even have wells !

        Why don’t you now come out with your mother tongue-filth ?

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          DS,
          “Where do Veddas wash ? They did not even have wells !”
          Are you really that ignorant, or just pretending?
          Until the 19th century, the Veddas were less smelly than those Westerners you seem to adore:
          https://www.wwdmag.com/home/article/10920084/from-medieval-to-modern
          Next will you be telling us that Veddas didn’t have LPG or fridges?

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            old codger

            Let her type what she thinks her best intellectual contribution to CT, Sri Lanka, …. Mahinda, ….. and this world.

            She is bent on removing all doubts about her ……………

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              Vedda and Codger, Thank you so much for your benevolence in letting me expresses my little ideas !

              An attitude so typical of your kind , newly introduced to English literature and through that to the idea of freedom of expression

              This Vedda however is much less intelligent. For him any one who opposes Ranil is for Mahinda ! That is how LTTE thought too. Actually Mahinda is a creation of Ranil. Had Premadasa Snr ( or even Gamini,lalith, Srima…) lived he would have fought the LTTE and there would not have been a Mahinda.

              Ranil perverted and distorted the UNP as well as the electoral configuration. Today the UNP has less than 1%

              The two of you ( vedda and codger) would have made ideal censors in the Prabakaran land.

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                DS,
                “newly introduced to English literature and through that to the idea of freedom of expression”
                Read Captain Morgan’s advice below. Read your comments before posting them. Don’t blame others after putting your foot in your mouth.

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                  Codger, this Captain Morgan ( was he in the ragtag LTTE army ?) must be a fool like Leela the blockhead,

                  Yourself confessed to Agnos and Nathan that you only pretended to misunderstand my comment in order to attack Sumanthiran ! It was a deliberate ruse.

                  Morgan, now promoted to Major by you, has made a major error.

                  You say you are a native English speaker just like Ranil !

                  This Major Morgan must take lessons from these two native English speakers ! ! In Sri Lanka they will not notice how Singlish the English of His Excellency is ! And how pompous and copied your English is !

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                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A28AlP-Mk-c

                let this help those who have already fogotten.

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              NV,
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              Neither this woman nor people like that know what real crap Mahendra called “Mahinda” is doing to this nation.
              Criminal man changed his name from Mahendra to Mahinda to easily inject the germ in the “Sinhalese Buddhist” mentality. Buddhists are generally taught that “Monk Mahinda” brought Buddhism to the country.
              Remember that Goebbels (Jackson Anthony, who died after being hit by an elephant’s vehicle but still knows no proof) had then the audacity to publicly say that “Mahinda” was not closely related to “Buddha” ……. how they fooled the nation……. ? with a huge silence against the bugger et al… now all together to attack RW for that is beyond my understanding…. I really dont know what to say…

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      Deepthi Silva,
      You must learn to write clearly, explicitly, and unambiguously. When you made the reference to “An ugly old man” some readers thought you were referring to RW while others assumed you were referring to MAS.

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        CM.
        Unfortunately, she is too old to send to a kindergarten.
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        This woman is the symbol of stupid 🙄 sinhala Buddhists.

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    The President has promised once again to address and resolve the Tamil National Question and follow up by developing the economy of the North and the East as it has so much potential. Unfortunately, he has not elaborated on the timeline. I am sure that if we really press him on this he will ask us to hold on until 2048!

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      Captain Morgan

      “The President has promised ……….. follow up by developing the economy of the North and the East as it has so much potential.”

      The president did not include East in his recent interview with Palki Sharma.

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        NV,
        Ok, let us leave out the question of developing the economy of the East. That still leaves the Tamil National Question, which covers governance-related matters in the East.
        Anyway, all these arguments are only of academic interest as neither this nor any future government will solve the problems in either the North or the East.

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      RW has dateline for Magic wand!!!???

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      CM,
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      is it current president’s fault ?
      not a single predecessor with greater mandate was able to do it. So, how can a president with one-seat on him in the parliament could ever make wonders ? He got elected for some other grave issues to be settled. How can we expect a man who came to pluck a coconunt to expect to get TECHNICIAN’S work done?
      Besides dont u know that sinhala_rasicm is similar to a fatal cancer development in srilanka ?

      Not much is done by main media are to do the job either, however some of us sinhalaya like me, are well aware of that. Levels of hatreds are multiple times more than what palastinians experience in Israel.

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    This video lasts nine and a half hours. Yesterdays proceedings in Parliament.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRRAbATVQGE
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    පාර්ලිමේන්තු සජීවී විකාශය – 22.11.2023
    .
    I don’t have time myself. Could somebody please identify the section where Sumanthiran makes this great speech?
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    Thanks.
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    Panini Edirisinhe

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      Dear S-M: You said “Parlimenthuwa Sajeevi”.

      What are you talking about? That is not a “Parliament”. It must be your memories. It is a “Second Zoo” built-in Luxury Style to accommodate some “UNIQUE” (pre-historic) animals we have never seen on this planet, well guarded by a “MAFIA” cartel.

      Please update yourself to reality.

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      S_M,
      Please find the relevant “clip commencement point” and runs until end of 15 minutes to the relevant speech
      3:19:33 to 3:34:35 Hours of the total 9½ Hours!?
      https://youtu.be/TRRAbATVQGE?t=11989
      Trust this is helpful.

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        Dear Mahila,
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        Brilliant work!

        .
        Now don’t get too swollen headed by all the praise that I’m going to heap on your effort here.
        .
        After all, you’re probably a much younger man than me, who has had the good fortune to have some knowledgeable person teaching you the finer points of submitting links to YouTube. No reader should conclude from this that Tamil Men, like Mahila, are inherently cleverer than lonely Sinhalese Men, like Panini Edirisinhe, who owing to force of circumstances must fight manfully on their own, when in their remote places of birth, like Bandarawela.
        .
        It’s amazing that when I click on the link that you have given me, the video flies open at exactly the point where Abraham Sumanthiran’s speech commences.
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        *
        Dear Readers All who have good ears,
        .
        You will find it much easier, and more effective to listen to this speech than to coldly read it. The passion with which Sumanthiran speaks comes through powerfully.
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        And it brings home to me again the fact that we Sinhalese have treated the Minorities abominably.
        .
        Therefore, readers, please click on the link given by the good (how sad that he has to be anonymous) Mahila.

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          (Part I)
          Panini,
          Thanks very much for your accolades, happy I was able to help!!?
          Your guess isn’t correct, am year older than you and 2 years senior to RW!!!???
          Age never be considered deterrent to achievement!!!
          I am first Sri Lankan and then subject to other classifications!!???
          Circa end September 1983, applied to passport renewal to proceed Business tour month long Europe, and UK! Applications lodged, left Immigration office, received call that my application couldn’t be processed as I have made Grave and unforgiving mistake in filling forms!!!??? Nationality, have been indicated as “SRI LANKAN”!!?? Amply admonished by PP Clerk, inadmissible, misleading Blah, Blah!! Should only state, “TAMIL by Descent or Registration”, None else!!! Further edified by “SUPRA” grade IMMIGRATION CLERK, there ISN’T a NATIONALITY ‘called and fashioned’ SRI LANKAN – ACCORDING to CI, whom he had already advised!!!? I was cautioned and told to meet then Controller of I & E, Mr. Moonasinghe within the hour if PP is URGENT!!!??
          Met CI after Lunch, and he wouldn’t Budge and stated that it is in his power to decide Nationality based on NIC!!! Attributing, due respect, and explicitly stating not doubting his knowledge of subject expressed my thinking!!!
          (TBC)

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            (Part II)
            Word Nationality is derived from “Nation”!!?? The Nation in context being Sri Lanka and NOT “Tamil” Land – present-day Tamilnadu was still Chennai or Madras Presidency!!??
            Having said that, I proceeded “Tongue in Cheek”, asked, Whether the Great Royalist Lalith Athulathmudali, senior to me, has entered into an agreement to “Grant Eelam”, which I humbly pleaded was not aware of!!!??? MINUTE OF SILENCE PREVAILED, thought I would be BOOTED OUT unceremoniously from the office!!! On the contrary, he made a phone call, in my presence, to then Secretary, Lakshman De Mel (memory serves me right), at calls end, got up from his seat, CONGRATULATED ME ON THE SOUND LOGIC, and said THAT will be THE FIRST PP with NATIONALITY STATED as SRI LANKAN asked me to call over within 2 hours to collect my NEW Passport.
            Such is value attached to Sri Lankan Nationality!!??
            STRANGE INDEED NONE ELSE, NATIONALISTS, PATRIOTS, REACTIONERIES, ANTI-IMPERIALISTS NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS DESCREPANCY BEFORE!!!???
            Also If Thiruvenkadam Velu – incidentally whom Nimal admires, has got caught of it, perhaps he could have put that to good use for his case of Liberation!!!???

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            Mahila,
            All your troubles were due to the fact that in Sinhala “jathiya” means both race and nationality…..

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              OC,
              You are absolutely on the money!! “Hit the Nail PLUMB on the HEAD”!!!???
              Unfortunately, or fortunately, it’s convenient that Sinhalese Race is SOLELY confined to this country – Sri Lanka – only and for purpose of Issuance of Passports that reply aptly suits the purpose!!!???

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    At last Sumanthiran also accepts the fact that LTTE is a liberation organisation and Sri lanka state has become as is a terrorist, racist, corrupted country. LTTE was not imported from another country but they are the sons and daughters of the parents of this island as any other citizens of this country including Rajapaksas, Ranil, Bandaranaiyakas, Senanayakas. Sumanthiran explained why Tamil youths took arms to fight against Sinhala only military and Indian military under oppressive racist regimes.
    Today Ranil is prepared to sell Sri Lanka to India and China because to fulfil his own dream of enjoying the executive power similar to Rajapaksas. Still poor Sinhala masses are in the dark under the fake Buddhism cheaters who does not bother who is Buddha or what his principles are. You can build million of Buddhist Temples but you or your pedigree will be not be in this land once it is sold.

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    The agenda of Ranil Rajapakse is just this………..

    a] Hang on to to the Presidency as long as possible.Thanks to the Aragalaya.
    b] Visit World Capitals,now and then, at the drop of a Hat.
    c] Make lofty proposals for the not so foreseeable future relating to the Economy,and brainwash all and and sundry that he is the man for all seasons.
    d] Project himself as the man who saved Srilanka at the most critical time of its History.
    e] Use the Security [Army/Police] to contain political protests. As it stands it is the Judiciary that has not taken to the streets.
    F] Aha! The National Question? It is the 6th item marked as F…………

    Hypocrisy? He would say that he has taken the Hippocratic oath to be a Hypocrite.
    And declare F.O.

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    I have nothing against Tamil people in the North wanting to have autonomy in governance. Devolution of power may be a solution for it. Sumanthiran I think wants more probably in the form of a federal state.
    .
    If that’s what Tamil people really want? Is it for the best interest of the Tamil people? Or is it for the satisfaction of the Tamil political class and politicians like Sumanthiran? Are some questions that Tamil people themselves may have to give some serious thought to.
    .
    Personally my preferred choice would be to have one Sri Lanka, a so called unitary state, perhaps because I am a Sinhalese. I see that in Colombo and in rest of the country Sinhalese, Tamils, Muslims and others live together without a problem despite conflicts in the past.
    .
    I personally find Tamil people wanting to have their own state, somewhat isolationist.
    .
    We would in my view be better and stronger together in one Sri Lanka. We are a small nation geographically and currently struggling economically. I don’t see how dividing it further is going to be of help to either party.
    .
    What we perhaps should aim therefore is to have greater degree of democracy, human rights, rule of law and an equitable society in which diversity is encouraged and respected.

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      R
      We are not asking for separate country. One country of course Sri Lanka then have two states we have our own affairs and devolope according to their culture. You can’t compare Colombo with orher cities that is capital.
      Look at UK they have 4 states you all like Indian Buddha but dont like Indians but they have several states but United Hindia
      In the north and East crimes are high despite the fact amount of arm forces we have but offenders are free why it’s Tamils probs no development nothing so ever.
      Our own high thick blood Sinha Lee JR quoted when tamil suffer sinhalese will be happy.”Demelowa gandeno Marundone “the concept

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        Cugan,
        .
        Some questions for you to consider.
        .
        Didn’t the LTTE fight for a seperate country? Isn’t the decades of war a big reason why the North is less developed than perhaps Colombo or rest of the country?
        .
        In addittion there are still under developed parts in the rest of the country too. You think they should also be made separate states to develop?
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        Isn’t people being poor a reason for crimes to be high? Therefore shouldn’t we aim at developing North and restoring law and order first instead of demanding a separate state?
        .
        Didn’t India help the LTTE to flourish? Isn’t that one reason (there are others) why many Sri Lankans don’t like India?
        .
        Aren’t majority of Tamil speaking people live outside North and East? Weren’t there Sinhalese and Muslim people in the North before the war, that were chased away by the LTTE? While all ethnicities and religions live in harmony in the rest of the country, isn’t it Tamils in the North that wants to isolate themselves from the rest of the population and want a separate state for that? Don’t you think by doing so they are claiming a disproportionate proportion of the country for Tamils? Is that a fair demand?

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          Ruchira,
          … Didn’t the LTTE fight for a seperate country?
          LTTE asked for a self-governing authority.
          That is devolution, not separation.

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            Thats news to me!

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              Grow up

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                I have been trying, but it has been difficult with the kind of people that this place is infested with.

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                  Really! I think you are trying hard and have come here to subtly infest and infect everyone with your Chingkalla Buddhist majoritarian ideology. Very very softly softly approach, trying your best not to annoy anyone and pretending to be extremely caring about the island’s Thamizh. But there is no mistake what you preach is your Chingkalla Buddhist majoritarian ideology and take on history and what really happened. We are not idiots and can see through you. Your good friend Choma also tried this approach and still does, as well as keeping on repeating lies, propaganda and misinformation, now you are the new addition. I rather have Eagle Thatta openly posting is hate Thamizh comments, at least with him you know where we stand. Funny you seem to be an ardent support of a Palestinian state and self-determination for them and what the Israeli state does to them but dead against any meaningful devolution for the island’s Thamizh, who suffer the same fate as them and deny everything that has happened to them. What a hypocrite.

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                    You even posted somewhere or agreed with another batty Chingkalla Grandma from the USA, that the island’s Thamizh do not deserve devolution or federalism as there is caste discrimination amongst them. What a hoot. So there is no caste, caste discrimination amongst Chingkallams, other South Asians, so they all do not deserve anything but should still be under the British? Or just the Thamizh? Leave caste there is some sort or form of discriminating amongst every people, it can be caste, class, tribal, regional or a mixture of all these. You are a humbug. Trying to act intellectual and caring but oozing with something else.

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                      Well…. with that kind of hatred I am not sure what solution is going to be helpful to you.
                      .
                      I think as I mentioned before, I am entitled to my opinion regardless of yours and your hateful emotion driven responses.
                      .
                      You seem to lack common decency in addressing people and I have no friends here.
                      .
                      I do not know what Palastinians want and I can’t recall voicing any opinion here stating that I support for a separate Palastinian state, though that may be what they want and is possible. They are not asking for a federal state. They as I can see want a separate country and like Tamils have resorted to violence that jeopardises their very cause.

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                  R
                  Sadly, this space is infested with racists of all kind.
                  One kind may overwhelm the others.
                  But all of them have a common agenda: they want the problem to persist forever.
                  There will always be some that one cannot reason with. But that is life.

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                    SJ,
                    .
                    True.
                    .
                    It appears that only Sinhala Buddhist racism is called out in the open while Tamil racism goes unchecked.
                    .
                    I guess there are beneficiaries who want the problem to persist.

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                  Oh really! You seem to be accusing everyone else of arrogance and rudeness, but it is you who is just that. Just read all your comments, oozing with Chingkalla Buddhist racism and chauvinism, making all sorts of assumptions with regards to the island’s Thamizh, with lots of inaccuracies. No wonder you got such a response. What else do you expect. Go and post all these lies assumptions and inaccuracies, at some Chingkalla extremist site like ” Lanka Lies” and you will get the response that you yearn for. Most probably you are already doing it.

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                    I do as I please. I don’t need your advice or opinion as to where to post and what to post. And where I post is none of your business.

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            N
            “LTTE asked for a self-governing authority.”
            That is untrue.
            The Vaddukkoddai Resolution it self was separatist.
            The Tamil youth movements worked on a separatist agenda.
            After the fall of the LTTE, Sampanthan tried to fudge by claiming that the TULF never asked for secession.
            The shift in 1976 was from federalism. Was the VR a rephrasing of the FP’s demand of 1949?
            Would like a translation of some slogans of the LTTE?
            Even now the slogan “There is no country without a Tamil, but Tamails have no country to call their own” makes the rounds.
            How will you interpret it?

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      It is not up to you or your opinions as a Chingkallam belonging to the majority community that discriminated the Thamizh, marginalized them, committed war crimes and structural genocide on them to decide what is best for the island’s Thamizh and their ancient homelands in the north and east but for the Thamizh to decide. Understood. If you ask the opinion of most Chingkallams they will state the same as you, as they want majority Chingkalla hegemony and the marginalization of the island’s Thamizh speakers to continue under a unitary state, with the intention of ultimately destroying the ancient Eezham Thamizh homeland in the north and east and ultimately converting the entire island into a Chingkalla Buddhist ghetto.

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        ” I am a Sinhalese. I see that in Colombo and in rest of the country Sinhalese, Tamils, Muslims and others live together without a problem despite conflicts in the past.” Really! what makes you think that? From your majoritarian Chingkalla Buddhist perspective? This is like many whites in pre–Apartheid South Africa stating there were no racial problems, and the Blacks, Indians and other nonwhites were living in harmony and were satisfied with their station. It is not for you to decide but the Thamizh to decide how they feel and is the same with the Thamizh Muslim. Muslim is not an ethnicity it is a religious identity; The so-called Sri Lankan Moors are of Thamizh ethnicity. They are no Arabs or Camels or Moors, a little bit of Arab amongst a very small minority amongst them does not make them Arab or Moors, they are still Thamizh. Chingkallams like you deliberately want to divide and rule the Thamizh hence all these new identities are created from Thamizh, based on religion, origin, region and caste. Like Muslims, Colombo Chetties, Bharatha (Based on caste, yet they Chingkallam say they do not like to discriminate on the basis of caste lol).

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          However, the opposite has been done for the Chingkallams by the state. They were heavily divided on the basis of caste, religion and origin at the time of independence. What makes you think the island or country is too small to be federated? Just an excuse to deny the Thamizh their right to their homland and their rights. Countries much smaller than Sri Lanka have a federal setup. EG. Switzerland, Belgium. You are just trying to give lame excuses to deny the island’s Thamizh their just rights and all your views and opinions are from the Chingkalla majority hegemonic point of view, that wants to keep the island’s Thamizh firmly under the racist Chingkalla boot, under a unitary state. Remember prior to European colonization, especially the British the Thamizh had their own homeland and even the British declared the Northern and Eastern provinces as the ancient homeland of the Eezham Thamizh and created it from lands that the Chingkallams had not even the remotest claim on and were pure Thamizh lands. It is not the Thamizh leaders/politicans but we ordinary Thamizh want a federal setup with land and police powers to safeguard what is left of our ancient homeland that the Chingkallams have not stolen and to safeguard our land language culture, history and heritage from racist state sponsored Chingkalla racism, of which you are a good example.

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        The last time I checked Sri Lanka is still a democratic country governed by rule of law, not at gun point that some would want it to be.
        .
        Therefore as a citizen of Sri Lanka, regardless of my ethnicity, I am entitled to express my opinion, the same way that you are for yours, without being subjected to arrogance, like what you have displayed in this comment.
        .
        It was the thirty year war that chased away the Sunhalese as well as Tamils out of the North East. Some of the Tamils that came from Jaffna to Colombo, lived, studied and worked among us in Colombo without a problem while your so called Liberators of Tamil people the LTTE, conscripted their children to make child soldiers out of them.
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        When those Tamils who migrated to southern parts of the country graduated with diplomas and degrees that could find them work anywhere in the world, your children recruited by the LTTE after combat training, received cyanide pills to wear around their necks.
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        War crimes have been committed by both sides and is something that should have been dealt with international laws to punish the perpertrators.
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        When things are such sadly your comment is a one that is of intolerance.

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          Ruchira,
          “It was the thirty year war that chased away the Sunhalese as well as Tamils out of the North East. Some of the Tamils that came from Jaffna to Colombo, lived, studied and worked among us in Colombo without a problem while your so called Liberators of Tamil people the LTTE, conscripted their children to make child soldiers out of them.”
          The foregoing is a LOT of HOGWASH, DEFLECTION OBFUSCATION!!?? The SB government Program of July 1983, caused the “BLACK JULY CATASTROPHE” and drove all Northern Tamils living peacefully amongst the Sinhalese in Colombo, by burning, looting their houses, burning and destroying their livelihood to the North!!!??? Thus did the youngsters, with no schooling or work became, target of the terrorists – LTTE and not the OTHER WAY ABOUT!!!???
          GET YOUR FACTS CORRECT PLEASE!!!???

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            Mahila,
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            Yes. The Black July was catastrophe. The government particularly the Grand Old Party, that even today the Tamils find appealing is responsible for it.
            .
            But your attempt to portray that as the sole cause of migration of Tamils both internally and to other countries I believe is equally false.
            .
            There may have been those that fled Colombo following Black July but I personally know those that remained in Colombo and worked till their retirement despite the atrocities committed during Bkack July only to return back to Jaffna after the cessation of war.
            .
            I also personally know those that came from Jaffna and also from the East to Colombo for studies and who completed their studies uneventfully despite the history of Black July. There are plenty such people if you look at the universities in the South.
            .
            That said you can not deny the fact that it was the LTTE that recruited child soldiers in the North and many abondoned their houses and family left the country to escape from them.
            .
            I will leave it upto you to decide how factually correct the portrayal of the 1983 black July as the sole cause of displacement and migration of Tamils is.
            .
            Black July was a carefully thought after provocation of government hired goons to carry out a blatant attack on Tamil people.

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              Ruchira,
              “I WILL LEAVE IT UPTO YOU TO DECIDE HOW FACTUALLY CORRECT THE PORTRAYAL OF THE 1983 BLACK JULY AS THE SOLE CAUSE OF DISPLACEMENT AND MIGRATION OF TAMILS IS.”
              1983 – Only ‘WATERSHED’, NOT the STARTING POINT or END of ATTROCITIES OF MAJORITORISM!!!
              ATTROCITIES may be too HARSHER word, but DESCRIMINATION doesn’t carry the exact IMPACT!!!??
              Please don’t impute the above to me as I don’t subscribe to it!! Contrary, there are many other reasons and actions, since Independence 1948 – 75 years – which collectively and severely – the attributable reasons for this calamity!!!??? All such points have been well documented both in Parliament and this forum too!!! Leave, the 1956 Language act constraints out of this discussion!?
              1970 – Standardisation and limiting entry of students from Northern Province depriving entrance to higher educational Institutions – Universities, Medical, Law, Technology Colleges!!??
              1971 – Limitation of Intake to Public service on “Chit System” from MP’s
              1977 – Liberalisation of economy, Jaffna youth, who had taken to AGRICULTURE AS VOCATION, growing, Chillies, Potatoes, Grapes and such cash crops were deprived of earnings!!??
              1978 – District quota system of University entrance – again deprived Northern and eastern Youth!??
              Deprivation of Higher education – university and Trade schools (Technical and Agricultural Training),
              (TBC)

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              (Part II)
              made THEM SEEK ACCOUNTANCY AS PROFESSION – Chartered or CIMA!!
              The above is the reason, many Youth in North and East Migrated – MAJORITY being accountants in 1970’s – countries in ‘East, Central and South Africa’ – Canada, The UK and USA and Europe (lesser) migration as accountancy was MAINLY UK qualification!! That went on like “HOUSE ON FIRE” until 07/1983!!! Post 07/1983, emigration, citation was mainly riots, HRC, violence and refugee status!!!??? Lo and behold, Lot many of my Sinhalese friends too joined in the Band wagon after being in the Refugee camps overnight (24 Hour experience), whom I meet now very often!!!???
              So, 1971 and very acutely from 1977 to 1983 (few even after until 1988) – until JVP 2nd coming, there was great influx of Jaffna youth in Colombo, STUDYING and happily intermingling with Singhalese in Colombo, NOT BECAUSE THE ‘Powers that be were generous in providing charitably educational facilities to Jaffna Youth??? Do not get carried away please!!??
              The sole and important reason being that the ACCOUNTANCY FIRMS OF REPUTE, where these youth, NOW DEPRIVED OF UNIVERSITY ADMISSION, FARMING AND SELF-SUFFICIENT IN LIVLIHOOD BEING DEPRIVED BY VICISSITUDES of the “1977 – OPEN ECONOMY” – necessary EVIL RESUSCITATE SL Economy!!!??
              (TBC)

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              (Part III)
              The Mercantile – PRIVATE SECTOR ACCOUNTANCY FIRMS, PROLIFERATING IN COLOMBO!!!??? Let me assure you, that it was not “NEW FOUND LOVE”, of the Sinhalese or the Aura of the cosmopolitan experience of the capital, to advance their profession FAST as it ever could HAPPEN and vanish westwards – The UK, Canada, US, Europe and even Africa!!!???
              In the circumstances prevalent, if there was ANY LOVE LOST – DEVOID OF ENMITY WITH CAMARADERIE THOUGH, IT WAS MINIMALISTIC, and IF IT WASN’T NONE! SAD HISTORY!!!???

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                So there were multitude of reasons why Tamils migrated, pre and post 1983.
                .
                I do believe that Tamils were wronged but some of the policies also affected Sinhalese I presume, and were not done to target and disadvantage Tamils. For example opening the economy.
                .
                Today if you ask most, atleast those who are in Colombo would point out how difficult life was before that and it was open economic policies that allowed the country to prosper. I can understand that Tamils in the North and East were deprived most of such benefits due to unequal development. But they are not alone the rest of the country isn’t developed equally either.
                .
                There were then certain other policy decisions that were taken with the hope of correcting the injustices that were done to Sinhalese in general. Language act I believe was one such thing.
                .
                There are a lot of deserving Sinhalese youth in the south too that miss out on university entrance due some of these policies, particularly the district quota system.
                .
                I have noticed that when measures are taken to address discriminatory practices and conditions of one group, the pendulum usually swings to the otherside, making another group disadvataged.
                .
                All that may be true but are you suggesting that no one migrated due to the war that prevailed, that’s not what I have heard.

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                  Ruchira,
                  “I have noticed that when measures are taken to address discriminatory practices and conditions of one group, the pendulum usually swings to the other side, making another group disadvantaged.”
                  That’s what you call and ‘Classify’ as an aspect of “Mismanagement, or Action out of Proportion, LEADING TO OVERCORRECTION”!!!???
                  Who did that since 1970??? Inept and Incompetent Governance!!!???
                  LEAST SAID OF THIS INFAMY, IS BEST!!!??? NO ACCOUNTABILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR OUTCOMES – as usual, SIGNATURE ‘TRAIT’ of Governance in this resplendent, Thrice blessed Island Country!!!???
                  If genuine mistake, correction should have been forthcoming within year or two or change of government!!!??? Contrary, went unabated until “Come Eternity”, corrected end of Millennium!!!??? Amounts to orchestrated action, with self-serving ulterior Motive, even for an Inept and Incompetent coterie of Machiavellians!!!???
                  OUTPUT QUALITY = INPUT MATERIAL QUALITY!!!???
                  Sri Lanka, 90+ % controlled by Sinhalese Buddhist, Public administration, and other government employees!!!???
                  Who should be blamed for LAPSE???
                  2019 – 2022, SIMILARLY, GR, MR and BR lost control of economy, Cabral, Prof Luxman (MMT famed), experimenting & selling “Family Silver” – USD + Gold Reserves! FREEFALL SYNDROME FALLACIES!!!??
                  RESULT BANKRUPTCY!!!???
                  You now know who!!!??? IF YOU STILL DON’T GET IT, IT’S BEYOND MY REACH TO EXPLAIN!!!???

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                    Mahila,
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                    One needs to separate the wheat from the chaff and not mistake incompetency to racial prejudice.
                    .
                    Government’s failures have left people of all ethnicities in shambles.
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                    The ethnic problem is a different one though the same failed governments and their policies are responsoble for it.

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          Ruchira,
          “The last time I checked Sri Lanka is still a democratic country governed by rule of law, not at gun point that some would want it to be.”
          Really? Aren’t you going a little overboard?
          .

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            old codger,
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            Would you rather live in Afghanistan or even Middle East? Yes we still have an appreciable level of democracy over here no matter how flawed it may be. That the Tamil people in the North were deprived of for decades.

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              Ruchira,
              “That the Tamil people in the North were deprived of for decades.”
              I would dare to confirm 90 % of 75 years, Post Independent Ceylon/Sri Lanka – definitely not decades!!! The SAGA commenced in 1948 with denying citizenship of the Upcountry Tamils – Tamils of recent origin – 200 years by the 1st government of Independent Ceylon!!!???
              OPTICS OF THE STATUTE – deprive Votes!!! DEPRIVE Dr. N M PERERA Leader of Opposition!!!???
              Historically, amendments to Basic Law of this country 1948 to date – 75 years been about people GOVERNING RETAINING POWER!!! NOTHING ELSE!!!???
              1st Republican constitution (Buddhism foremost place, facilitate electing Buddhist Leaders predominantly), 2nd Republican Constitution – all Power Usurped to EP and Untrammelled!!!??? EP was busy turning a MAN into a WOMAN!!!???
              3rd amendment – to facilitate conduct Referendum 1982 to extend 4/5 Majority UNP parliament another term w/o elections, so JRJ governs w/o any Impediments until 1989!!!!???
              6th, 18th, 19th, 20th and 21st amendment (Proliferating abundant mistakes unde Minister of Justice is also PC), enabling EP to circumvent CONSTITUTIONAL COUNCIL!!!
              What a splendid country of malefic AND DOUBTLESS BANKRUPT MIND AND SOUL, ECONOMICALLY and mentally!!!???
              Its Self-serving, to satiate Sinhala Buddhist Psychic!!!??? Perhaps doesn’t symbolise “Thannawa”!?

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              Ruchira,
              “Would you rather live in Afghanistan or even Middle East?”
              Yes, I spent a lot of time in ME, and did feel a lot safer there..
              But I was not talking about Tamils specifically. EVERYONE suffers the effects of “flawed” democracy, whether it is from murderous police, corrupt judges, or entitled clergy.
              Afghanistan is not an excuse for our cupidity.
              BTW, don’t you believe that the Afghans finally got what they wanted? Isn’t that a sort of democracy? I hope you’re not suggesting that what what the US and USSR tried to achieve was true “democracy “?

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                Ruchira,
                If you actually believe that all
                Sri Lankan citizens are treated equally in a “flawed democracy” as you put it, can you explain the following list of senior Police officers from their own website?
                https://www.police.lk/?page_id=3370
                Can you show me ONE non-Sinhala DIG, even in the North? Actually, I believe there is not even a Sinhala Christian among them.
                While you are about it, why not also check the list of senior SLAS officers, and the ethnic make-up of the forces and police.
                Would YOU be happy if it was the other way around?
                You assume too that I am a Tamil, which I am not. But I am much older than you, and have seen and experienced many things which you haven’t. I am not taken in by sunshine stories, and I would advise you to not believe things because they fit your world-view.

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                  I didn’t say we have a fantastic democracy. I said we still have an appreciable level of democracy no matter how flawed it is.
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                  The middle east may be good to go on shopping, to go on vacation and work as an expat. They are economically better off too, with which comes a level of comforts and security.
                  .
                  But I wonder if it would be the same if you were a minority community in the middle east that would want to be critical of their government and their policies based on muslim and islamic culture.
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                  I don’t think anything is perfect in Sri Lanka. But I can see there are many Tamils in a lot of professions in the country. So what is the reason for their absence in high ranking positions in law enforcement agencies?
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                  Wrt Afghanistan, no I don’t think forcibly imposing western, American style democracy could have been successful or even desirable but the discrimation especially against women, one can not not notice.
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                  I agree to the short comings that you mention in the Sri Lankan context, but I don’t think blaming all of it or viewing all of it through a racial lens would help.
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                  I also doubt that all of these problems would go away by simply devolving power or having a federal state for Tamils.

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                    Ruchira,
                    No Patch of Semblance of Democracy!!!??? Not even D E M O’crazy!!! What we have is SUPRA ‘Kleptocracy’ – Routed, Raped and Looted!!!???

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                      Mahila,
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                      That seems to happen even under democracy. Ours may be a particularly bad case.
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                      Democracy is a form of governance and is not immune to corruption.
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                      As long as we don’t hold the perpertrators accountable and bring them to justice it won’t change.
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                      Ethnic problem has different roots and origins. It’s about political aspirations and social justice. Devolution of power isn’t going to magically solve the corruption issue overnight.
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                      But I agree if there was true democracy both issues would have been better addressed.

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                    I.didnt read all your writing he says he dont have fantastic democracy in SL have some lemon puff

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                  OC,
                  There is One – DIG Nalaka De Silva, Western Province North!!!??

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                    Mahila,
                    You mean he is a Sinhala Christian?

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          “The last time I checked Sri Lanka is still a democratic country governed by rule of law, not at gun point that some would want it to be.”
          I think that you have forgotten the journalists who got killed and kidnapped.
          *
          “War crimes have been committed by both sides and is something that should have been dealt with international laws to punish the perpetrators.”
          It is not as simple as that.
          One aspect is that the winner gets away with a simple denial while the loser allows himself to be used by vested interests.

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            SJ, Agree to both. Would you have preffered the LTTE to be won? Would things have been better then at least for Tamil people. How many Tamil leaders they killed? Not forgetting Rajiv Gandhi, when it was Indua that helped them to get organised and flourish (among others) as a counter strayegy to pro-Americal foreign policy of the Sri Lankan government.

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              Ruchira,
              “Would you have preffered the LTTE to be won? “
              I see that you (quite rightly) object when Israel uses a military sledge hammer, killing thousands of innocent civilians too.
              Isn’t it inconsistent of you not to object to the SL government doing the same?

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                Old coger,
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                Did I say that I support killing of innocent civillians by SL government?
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                Wars seem to be waged whether we like it or not. Whenever they are waged there are rules of war that needs to be adhered to. But they seem to be only present on paper, and no one seem to care whether they are violated or not.
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                Do you think what Hamas did was right?

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                  “Do you think what Hamas did was right?”
                  Many of the stories about Hamas’ actions were Israeli lies.
                  The beheading of 40 children was one. (This was later withdrawn by Israel.)
                  Such lies were necessary to justify what IAF was to do in the days that followed.
                  The targets were not civilians on 7th October. Two thirds of those killed that day were Israeli soldiers.
                  Even if Hamas did what it was supposed to have done, look at IAF targets—Hitler would seem an angel of mercy.

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                    Aren’t you familiar with the story of Shani Louk?

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      People of USA, Switzerland, The UK, India are they Isolationists!!??
      What extend to deflect, and OBFUSCATE the SIMPLE ISSUES, pertaining to the historical evidence of ‘75 years of Independence’, PARADIGM some CLOWNS could extend to and burrow into – “BURY THE SOARING ISSUE”!!???

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        Are there any states in the USA that are based on race, ethnicity, religion or language spoken? They are united under one government and dominates the world while we in Sri Lanka are divided and fighting each other based on ethnicity, religion and the language spoken.

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          (Part I)
          Ruchira,
          Whether, Language, Race, Nationality or Country of Origin is IMMATERIAL, nor is whether one is Black or White skinned!!! Presumptive!!!
          USA IS FEDRETATED STATE, THEY HAVE AND ENTERTAIN IN CERTAIN MATTERS DIVISIVE OR ALIENATED THOUGHTS ON SEVERAL MATTERS!!?? THAT’S GIVEN AND UNASSAILABLE!!?? your obfuscation really has no limits!!!???
          That being the fact, they are unified in thought and action, when it comes to The Nation State – United States of America!!!??? Whatever state, whatever the Nationality, becomes of NO Consequence, but defend the Nation from outside Aggression or external Opponents!?
          That is unequivocally absent in Sri Lanka and Sri Lankans!!!??? Only Sinhala Buddhists (SB’s) are recognised as able to do the magnificent deeds to elevate Sri Lanka!!!???
          Just take the case of Lakshman Kadirgamar (LK) acclaimed BEST Foreign Minister SL ever had, did and achieved the “undoable”, got most countries proscribe LTTE, to enable final victory 05/2009!? Poor LK and family, had to suffer the ignominy of agreeing to, FUNERAL PYRE instead of Burial within Cathedral Precinct’s, where he OCCUPIED THE FIRST PEW AT SERVICES, MASSES Sunday after Sunday when not out of the country!?? Unyielding the process went ahead despite DAUGHTER protesting – highest!??
          (TBC)

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          (Part II)
          According State Funerals is COMMENDABLE, But one defies one’s lifelong faith, appease, SATIATE POLITICAL POPULARISM – BEGOTRY!!!???
          THAT’S THE EPITOME OF SB BIGOTRY, BECAUSE, IF ONE ATTAINED SUCH GREAT HEIGHTS IN STATURE AND LIFE, THAT INDIVIDUAL CANNOT BE ANY OTHER THAN A SINHALA BUDDHIST!!!
          Well, you may as others before have claimed, were not aware, then read history – not Mahavamsa – enlightenment would arrive only outside that sphere of historical records!!!??? That’s better than FEIGNING lack of KNOWLEDGE and historical facts, to arrive at this point!!??? “The Messiah” ‘fooled some ALL the time and ALL Sometime’!!! Good but remember, cannot fool ALL people, ALL the time!!!??? IMPOSSIBLE!!?
          That Is one example only to demonstrate Separation of identity and thought process Majoritarian SB and the Minorities, includes the Muslims and others, the least to FEDERATION OF CONSTITUENT COMMUNITIES, as Sri Lankan Nation State would only be the answer!!!???
          WE HAVE ARRIVED AT THIS POINT because of BIGOTRY and Overwhelming Majoritarian Attitude Sinhala Buddhists and not because of Language, Religion, Caste, Creed or colour of Skin!!!??? Adverted by those trying to deflect, and OBFUSCATE!!??
          So your primary assumption is incorrect, RENDERING THE FINAL ANALYTICAL CONCLUSION – IMPERFECT AND/OR WRONG!!???

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            Mahila,
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            In the case of the United States I agree that they are united when it comes to their foreign affairs. That I believe is because their foreign policy is bipartisan, enabling them to unite in matters of foreign affairs. While Sri Lanka is not a country driven by policies. It is a country that is driven to the whims and fancies of few individuals from few families.
            .
            I didn’t really understand what you meant by “USA IS FEDRETATED STATE, THEY HAVE AND ENTERTAIN IN CERTAIN MATTERS DIVISIVE OR ALIENATED THOUGHTS ON SEVERAL MATTERS!!?? THAT’S GIVEN AND UNASSAILABLE!!??”
            .
            I am not aware of the issue with the funeral of late Mr. Kadirgamar, but I do agree that he was a leader of rare calibre and his demise is Sri Lanka’s loss. Should he have lived I am sure he could have potentially lead the country. Unfortunately we were deprived of number of such leaders. I think Dr. Neelan Thiruchelvem is another from Tamil community.
            .
            It is difficult to follow your thought process. You say the problem is Sinhala Buddhis bigotry but at the same time claims it is not a language, religion, caste, creed or colour of skin.
            .

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              Ruchira,
              “Should he have lived I am sure he could have potentially led the country?”
              Sadly, again you may not have known that part of the Saga too!!??
              CBK is the one who made LK the Foreign Minister and around the near end of her term triggered by the incumbent Ratnasiri Wikramanayake, PM vacating the post, CBK proposed LK to be the PM for the vacant position!!!???
              Vetoed and protested all around the appointment could not be to a non-Sinhala Buddhist!!??
              So the mantle of PM, was passed on by CBK, to MaRa, with great reluctance, whom the PA Mp’s wanted as replacement for Ratnasiri Wikramanayake!!!???
              That would never ever been successful after that as all MP’s of PA were emphatic and one would have ever convinced LK into any position – PM or President of SL!!!???
              That is the state of affairs in this thrice blessed resplendent island of Sri Lanka!!!???
              NEVERTHELESS, “HOPE FLOWS ETERNAL IN HUMAN HEART”!!!????

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                Yes, I am not surprised, for the said attitude of Sinhala Buddhists, they are also paying a price.
                .
                Now that the war is over, like you have mentioned, may be there’s a reason to be more hopeful.

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                  I agree that there are internal divisions especially when the discourse turns ugly but to a large extent they corporate and driven by policy aimed at long term interests.
                  .
                  For example they would agree that China needs to be contained but how they are going to do it would differ. Even in the case of Israel- Palastine despite the internal differences I don’t think there would be a major shift in their position. It’s been clear they are pro-Israel. Biden has claimed himself to be a Zionist.

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                    R
                    The US population is one of the intentionally most ill informed on political matters.
                    They have been lied to about every war waged by the US with the backing of the media. It is too late when they wake up to reality.

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              “n the case of the United States I agree that they are united when it comes to their foreign affairs. “
              Can you say that about the US policy on Israeli destruction of Gaza?

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                Sorry my response to you got posted above as a reply to Mahila.

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              Ruchira,
              “While Sri Lanka is not a country driven by policies. It is a country that is DRIVEN TO THE WHIMS AND FANCIES OF FEW INDIVIDUALS FROM FEW FAMILIES.”
              You have hit the nail on the head!!!
              FANCIES OF FEW INDIVIDUALS – SINHALA BUDDHISTS (SB) FANATICS – WITH AGGRANDISEMENT AS SOLE PURPOSE OF ENGAGING IN POLITICS AND GRABBING POWER AND NOT SERVING THE PEOPLE!?
              Popularly known worldwide as KLEPTOCRACY!!!??? And they are “DAMN GOOD AT IT”!!! Only SELF-SERVING and NOT PUBLIC WELFARE!!! EPITOME OF GOVERNANCE IN Sri Lanka!!??

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                Mahila,
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                Not sure if Ranil is a Sinhala Buddhist fanatic or even Mahinda (Isn’t Shiranthi Christian?) if you look at his ancestry.
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                More like both of them stir Sinhala Buddhist sentiments as a strategy to grab power. One more than the other. One succeeds while the other fails.

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                  I think that a SB fanatic deserves more respect than a cynic who is not but used SB fanaticism for political ends.

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      I have nothing against Tamil people but looks like you have lots of things against the Tamil people and are trying to sugar coat your anti Tamil views to make it more acceptable. This is like many people stating I am not racist but and then proceed with something very racist against certain groups. So why are you against federalism which is what Tamil people want and gives the most amount of protection and not a unitary state that gives the least amount of protection, and has proven to be a disaster, due to state sponsored Sinhalese racism. Maybe this is the reason you and most Sinhalese want a unitary state, as you want the racist status quo to continue until the Tamils are destroyed. Tamils and Muslims living in harmony in the Sinhalese south. Please do not make you laugh. How made you the spokesmen for them and how do you understand what they really feel? Why are you a Tamil or Muslim Tamil/Moor? The answer is no.

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        It is like a wife abuser stating yes, I have no complaints from my wife the way I treat her, and she is happy and knows her place. And why is the island small two have a federal Northeast Tamil unit? Countries much smaller and more prosperous have a federal setup based on language and it is working very well. These are all lame excuses to keep the island’s Tamils under the racist Sinhalese boot and ultimately crush and destroy them. A gift that the British gave to the Sinhalese. As for India I again state it is playing a double game with the Tamils, so is the USA and the west.

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          Sorry to and not two

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        I think this is quite fashionable among Tamils and also advantageous for them to brand Sinhalese in general and any opinion or view that is not alingned with theirs to create a state along racial lines, as racist.
        .
        No one has made me a spokesman for anyone. This is my personal opinion.
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        I am opposed to a federal state because it creates division along ethnic lines and is not the best interest of the country and its people as a whole that should strive for unity not divisions.

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        Some here seem incapable of sugar coating their anti-Muslim views though!

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      Ruchira,
      That can be done if English and Tamil are made the official languages with “reasonable use of Sinhala language” being allowed!

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        That would have been acceptable and practicle if the vast majority of people were Tamils. It is this kind of skewed non compromising attitude of the LTTE that made it lose the sympathy and support of the west that eventually led to their demise.

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          Ruchira,
          If I may intervene,
          “That can be done if English and Tamil are made the official languages with “reasonable use of Sinhala language” being allowed!”
          I’m certain that were expressed in lighter vain by CM, to evaluate or how will the Tamils would have managed that situation, if that was the case!!!???
          If my understanding is correct, virtually ‘CHALLENGING’, the Tamils, would have done a better job, IF Roles and Positions were reversed!!!???
          In other words, The Statute Book of SL, is WORTHLESS, when it COMES to IMPLEMENTATION!!!???
          It’s been NATO (No Action Talk Only) case when it comes to Implementation!!! NEVER, NEVER NOT EVEN NOW!!! 50 or 60 years later!!!!???
          If ill-gained loot has to be transferred to the Salubrious Mediterranean Principality of Santa Monica, then there is TANTRUM performed in the Devinuwara Walauwe, southern Sri Lanka, done pronto, but there aren’t funds, or resources to equip government offices with Tamil Computers for past 60 years!!???
          Hope you got the point, presumably what Captain Morgan – trying to put across!!!???
          Nothing about LTTE or their IDEOLOGY!!?? PRACTICALITIES, REALTIME GROUND SITUATION!!!???

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            Mahila,
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            May be you are right about CM.
            .
            The very fact that successive governments regardless of which Walawuwwa they came from have led us to banckruptcy reveals gross incompetencies from their part.
            .
            But like I said looking at all of them through a racial lense wouldn’t help, though racist majoritarian sentiments undoubtedly have contributed to worsen the ethnic problem.

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      Ruchira, if you really mean that you have nothing against the Tamils then you should not be against the genuine wishes of the island’s Tamils to self-rule in their areas under a federal form of government, with land and police powers, which like someone already stated gives the most amount of protection and not unitary form of government, which means there is no self-rule or safeguard but be under racist Sinhalese rule. If you are not agreeable to this then, you are not genuine, and what you state is a lie, and you are lots of things against the Tamils. If the island’s Tamils were under Sinhalese rule and were the subjects of Sinhalese kings, living amongst the Sinhalese from ancient times, then your argument may have been valid. But they were not. They had their own ancient homeland, where they lived, and these lands were ruled by Tamil kings and chiefs until European colonization.

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        It was the Sinhalese who were largely ruled by nominally Sinhalese, Tamil origin kings and aristocrats for most of their history and not the other way around. Even the Portuguese and Dutch ruled the Tamil and Sinhalese parts of the island that was under their control as two separate colonies or units until the British captured the whole island and created a new colony called Ceylon in 1833 by uniting the then separate Tamil and Sinhalese parts of the island, for their own convenience. By this act they made the island’s native Eelam Tamils who were a 100% majority in their own lands in the north and east a minority on the whole island and the Sinhalese who until then were confined to the southern, western and central parts of the island a majority on the whole island. Further by making Colombo right in the heart of Sinhalese western province the national capital. they made the Island’s Tamils always be reliant economically and politically on the Sinhalese south. As they did little development to uplift the Tamil areas or their major cities like Jaffna Trincomalee or Batticaloa.

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          This continues even after independence, to keep the island’s Tamils economically reliant of the Sinhalese areas, if there is any form of development in Tamil areas, it is not the local Tamils who benefit but outside Sinhalese. For a short period of time between 1820 and 1833, the British made the entire island part of the Tamil Majority Madras Presidency. What if they had decided to have kept the entire island as part the Tamil majority Madras Presidency and British India, and not created a new colony called Ceylon, the boot would have been on the other side and the Sinhalese like the Telugus in the 1950s would have been clamouring for a federal form of government for the Sinhalese majority areas. Would you have then supported a unitary form of government then for the Sinhalese under a then Tamil majority Madras state? The answer will be a definite no. So, what is good for you is not good for the Tamils?

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            Lastly what makes you think that the Tamils and Muslim Tamils living amongst the Sinhalese are very happy content and live there without any fear? You are not a Tamil speaker (Tamil, or a Muslim) so makes you speak on their behalf? I cannot speak in behalf of the Sinhalese. You are just giving the Sinhalese perspective, or what the Sinhalese want to think or have been told to think. If there was so much of joy and harmony then why can’t they use their mother tongue Tamil in Sinhalese areas, without any discrimination in dealing with authorities or anyone without fear? After all Tamil is also on paper an official language on par with Sinhalese? The answer is no. If the Tamils or the Muslims try to assert their Tamil or Muslim Tamil identity they face violence, scorn and discrimination and not acceptance and this is our experience. If everything was so harmonious, why do they face periodic state sponsored violence and pogroms from their Sinhalese Neighbours and public. with the Sinhalese police and armed forces just watching the fun. Maybe you find these actions harmonious, but we Tamils and Muslims do not. They are living there not because they love the Sinhalese and want to live amongst them, but they have to live there or forced to due to economic and political reasons.

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              They have no other choice and nowhere else to go. Moreover, the vast majority of the Tamil speakers who live amongst the Sinhalese are Muslims (72%) and Indian origin Tamils(98%), who have always been living there for centuries, due to trade and other reasons, as the British settled them there like in the case of the estate Tamils. Many of them live along the western and northwestern coast, that was once part of the Tamil homeland but now part of the Sinhalese homeland. The vast majority of the native Eelam Tamils (70%) live in the north and east. In their ancient homelands despite all what has happened and 90% of the rest live in Colombo, where many of them had lived for generations due to economic necessity but most still maintain close ties with the north and east. It is these native Tamils who have a very ancient history on the island and have the same rights as the Sinhalese who are demanding a federal setup for their homeland in the north and east, where the Tamil/Tamils speakers are the vast majority in every district. There are not demanding this is Sinhalese majority areas, so what is your problem? There are lots of Scots and Welsh who live outside Scotland or Wales, so this means there should be no Scotland or Wales where the Scots and the Welsh are still the majority in their own ancient homeland?

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                I must congratulate you for the decent response your comment is among a sea of cacophony some bordering arrogance.
                .
                You say that Tamils and even Muslims in the southern part of the country are not happy entirely and have difficulties. May be you are right.
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                Firstly let me tell you that I am not being a spokes person for them.
                .
                That said then do you think their problems would be solved by having a separate state in the North and East? Are all the Tamils and Muslims planning to go back to North and East if it were to be declared a separate state?
                .
                You also ask what if Sri Lanka were to be a part of India, and wouldn’t I then be wanting for a federal state. I am not too sure. I would have probabbly find something meaningful to do with my life rather than fighting for a federal state.
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                If Tamil people so desperately long for a separate state, why wouldn’t you opt for a separate country then? Isn’t that what the objective of the LTTE was and still is?

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                Hello Rohan25,
                The history of the United Kingdom is complicated. 2000 years ago when the Romans invaded the South of the Islands, England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales did not exist as Nation States. The Romans built 2 walls across the North. The various tribes/peoples in the North fought battles against the Romans. After 410 A.D. the Romans left and very shortly the Angles, Jutes and Saxons (and later the Danes and Vikings) colonised parts of what would become England. The Welsh were composed of indigenous peoples and those that were displaced from the East and South. Thus began the rule of minor Kings and Princes that eventually led to the English Nation.
                In the North the Picts, Caledonians, Gaels/Scots and others eventually, under Kenneth MacAlpin, became Scotland
                The Norman Conquest of England (Viking descendants in Normandy, France) introduced Feudalism and replaced the incumbent royalty/aristocracy. In the 13 Century Edward the 1st of England ravaged Wales and destroyed the Welsh aristocracy. He built a series of castles down the border and declared Wales as his. After a number of revolts, notably Owain Glyndwr, Wales was brought completely under English rule after the Laws in Wales Acts 1535–1542.
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                  Continued
                  Edward intervened in the Scottish Royal Family succession and sent his armies to take over Scotland. At the Battle of Bannockburn Edward’s son Edward 2nd was defeated by Robert the Bruce in 1314
                  Some of the Marcher Lords that Edward 1st put in place to rule over the Welsh travelled up to Scotland One of the Marcher families, the Fitzalans (Stewards to the King) married into the Scottish Royal Family and eventually became the Stewart Kings. After Queen Elizabeth 1st died without an heir James Stewart 6th of Scotland became James 1st of England (responsible for the King James Version of the Bible). In 1707 the Union of the Parliaments was enacted.
                  Scotland has its own Laws, Judiciary and Education System. A new Parliament was convened on 7th September 2004. Following a referendum The National Assembly for Wales (Senedd Cymru) was created in 1998.
                  The UK Parliament in Westminster still has much jurisdiction over Scottish and Welsh affairs.
                  Are there any lessons from the UK case that would be applicable to Sri Lanka? Maybe the Good Friday Agreement in Northern Ireland. The history of Northern Ireland and Eire (Ireland) is even more complicated and contentious.
                  Best Regards

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                    LankaScot,
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                    Given your knowledge what do you think the ideal solution for the Tamil National Question in Sri Lanka
                    is?
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                    I am not sure how the Belfast Agreement is similar to Sri Lankan situation?

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      ruchira
      “Personally my preferred choice would be to have one Sri Lanka, a so called unitary state, perhaps because I am a Sinhalese. “

      if the power is devolved to the tamils to run their own affairs,sri lanka will still be one sri lanka.Isn’t india one india.Today because indians are united only they can take on anybody in this world .Isn’t germany,switzerland one germany or switzerland?

      “Tamils, Muslims and others live together without a problem “

      they ain’t got much choice have they.If they don’t want to live with the sinhalese they will have to go and live in the sea.Muslims even fearfull that their businesses will be finished off by rival sinhala business man have to live with the sinhalese.Tamils have to live wondering whether another july 83 will occur.Living in fear but living together.

      “What we perhaps should aim therefore is to have greater degree of democracy, human rights, rule of law and an equitable society in which diversity is encouraged and respected.” spot on buddy.just add autonomy also for tamils and muslims.

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        Shankar,
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        What does this thing called autonomy for Tamil and Muslim people entail is the concern.
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        What about the Sinhalese people that once lived in majority Tamil areas, that were druven out by the war? Where do they fit in, in this equation of autonomy for Tamil and Muslim people?

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          ruchira
          what it entails is without surprises if you just copy a autonomy system in another country without trying something new and homegrown.For example the quasi federal system that tamilnadu has with india could be tried out here.

          Just like the sinhalese you mention tamils also have been driven out and have moved to tamil majority areas and abroad.They have also moved to sinhala majority areas due to the 25 year war.Also muslims have been driven out to puttalam by the LTTE.It is upto them if they want to come back,to do so.Yu can’t force them to.IF they prefer to stay where they are let them stay.If they want to come back let them come back.We have to be futuristic and put the correct systems for the next few generations so that they can live peacefully in a prosperous society.There is a limit we can do to clean up the shit of the past.Some shit will always remain.lot of shit happenned between france and germany but now in some french villages the germans are the majority.If they can do that after butchering each other in the millions why can’t we.The problems between sinhalese and tamils are like a drop in the ocean compared to what they went through.50 million died in world war2.

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            Shankar,
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            Agree to all points you have mentioned. So what would be the home grown system for Sri Lanka?

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        “Today because indians are united “
        What will the people in Kashmir and Manipur have to say on this?
        *
        BTW, what kind of unity exists between Tamilnadu and Karnataka or Tamilnadu and Kerala?

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          sj
          kashmir is a festerng problem even now because it was a muslim majority state but was gien to hindu india instead of pakistan.It did not follow the other muslim majority states and join with pakistan because it was ruled by a hindu monarch.

          as for your dig at tamilnadu,karnataka and kerala they may not be warmly embracing each other but compare it with what happenned between the sinhalese and tamils in sri lanka since our ndependence and what happenned in india since its independence and then you can see how one system created chaos and the other one created a mighty country which is no 4 in economic power after china,US,EU.

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            I only stated a fact.
            I was not asking for explanations. There is serious trouble in Kashmir, Manipur and Nagaland. Besides, Assam is communally divided. the Hindi-Hindu belt is a hotbed of communal violence.
            *
            I will say that Tamils and Sinhalese coexist veryy well in this country despite distrust and a few spells of politically driven communal violence, unlike in India with easily triggered communal violence against Muslims and even Christians.
            *
            It is a hard job to unite such a diverse population, but that is no excuse to pretend that all is well.

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      Ruchira
      You have robbed my thoughts.
      In view of demographic distribution of Tamil speaking people across the island there is no option other than living in one country unless of course the Tamil speaking people presently living in areas outside North East are prepared to relocate themselves. However no one , neither Sinhala political class in the South or Tamil political class in the North has the right to impose any thing on this question of relocation against their consent. They must be given the right to express their opinion in a referendum.
      .
      Soma

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        Soma, Agreed.

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          Secession doesn’t necessarily mean relocating people based on ethnic lines. Do you know of any examples of secession where it was mandatory for people to relocate based on their ethnicity or religion?

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            S
            I know several instances where people were relocated by the force of events.

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              Force of the events versus mandatory relocation ——— There’s a big difference.

              In SL, hypothetically speaking, ethnic tension driven force of events should be expected. We have seen that happen even before any thought of separation widely existed. Not difficult to imagine the SB nationalists thirsting for blood.

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                Sugandh,
                “Force of events versus mandatory relocation”??
                Force of the events could even happen due to economic Boom drawing population towards specific location and Decline in trade, driving away population – due variation in Jobs, and attraction to better living conditions!!! Chennai drawing people from the North, or Silicon Valley another example!!! Such movement “Force of Event”, desirable and generally, less stressful and mainly depends on individual’s skill sets!!!

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                I think that the former predominates.
                The only mandatory relocation of significance was that of Northern Muslims by you know who.

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                  Was that under secession of a political state OR just yet another demonstration of your inability to resist your usual sideshows, propaganda, and agendas?

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            Sugandh
            Why are you so strongly opposed to giving the democratic right of choice to your own people?
            May be less than 10% of Tamil speaking people are agreeable to your idea.

            Soma

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        Individual freedom is denied!!!??? Going back to 1970’s “Haal Polla”, regimentation!!!?? Why??? No one is against a referendum, but against FORCED REPARTIATION – LIKE 1946/7 India AND Pakistan, NOT RECCOMMENDED!!!

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    R
    We are not asking for separate country. One country of course Sri Lanka then have two states we have our own affairs and devolope according to their culture. You can’t compare Colombo with orher cities that is capital.
    Look at UK they have 4 states you all like Indian Buddha but dont like Indians but they have several states but United Hindia
    In the north and East crimes are high despite the fact amount of arm forces we have but offenders are free why it’s Tamils probs no development nothing so ever.
    Our own high thick blood Sinha Lee JR quoted when tamil suffer sinhalese will be happy.”Demelowa gandeno Marundone “the concept

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      C AND R,
      “In the north and East CRIMES ARE HIGH DESPITE THE FACT AMOUNT OF ARM FORCES we have but offenders are free why it’s Tamils probs no development nothing so ever”
      No Rocket Science Needed, Mr Watson!!!??? With that kind of armed security people compared to south, the only reasonable INFERENCE AND CONCLUSION is COLLUSION with CRIMINAL ELEMENTS!?
      You may ask unwittingly BY WHOM!!???? EVERYONE’S “SANITISED GUESS”. GOOD AS MINE – EVEN BETTER, unless BLINDED by BEGOTRY!?

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        I think the thirty years of war has created a certain distrust among Sinhala leaders about Tamil people hence the heightened military presence. I agree nothing is rosy and there’s a lot to be done to make things better for Tamils in the North and East.

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          R
          It was distrust that enabled the war.

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            I would assume distrust could have been dealt with a proportionate response but minorities it looks like were not endowed with the concept of proportionality when they requested 50% representation in governing the country. You can not clap with one hand.

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              Ruchira,
              Could you explain to me what this 50% representation is you are talking about?

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                Mahila,
                .
                “ALL CEYLON TAMIL CONGRESS
                The political party system was slowly taking root in the island during the pre-independence years. The advent of the Soulbury Commission saw Sri Lankan Tamils forming the All Ceylon Tamil Congress (ACTC). G.G. Ponnambalam became the ACTC President while S. Sivasubramaniam was the party General-Secretary. The primary objective of ACTC at that point of time was to argue the case for its “fifty-fifty” demand before the Soulbury Commission. The Tamil Congress wanted a scheme of balanced representation popularly called “fifty–fifty.” According to this proposal, 50% of seats were to be allotted to the Sinhala majority and 50% for all the other minority ethnicities including Tamils. They wanted a scheme where the minority community representation was to be given weightage so that non–Sinhala communities together could counter-balance perceived Sinhala domination. This was rejected by the Soulbury Commission which refused to create an “artificial majority out of a minority.” “
                .
                D. B. S. Jeyaraj, Daily Mirror Online, 27 November, 2023

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                  Ruchira,
                  “But like I said looking at all of them through a racial lens wouldn’t help, though racist majoritarian sentiments undoubtedly have contributed to worsen the ethnic problem.”
                  Ruchira,
                  That is to say the least, Hog Wash and Load of BS!!! Is Switzerland divided on racial lines? When convenient they use their own, but unified as ONE nation – Switzerland – and they are all ‘SWISS’!!!??? None would adduce, German, French, or Italian!!!???
                  COHESION OF THOUGHT AND DEED!!!??? That’s an important element for successful Nation!!??
                  NOT in SL!!??? Why???
                  BECAUSE THE CONTRAINTS OF THEIR OWN LANGUAGE, WHICH HASN’T DEVELOPED, DUE TO IT BEING OF RECENT ORIGIN, THEY HAVE NO SEPERATE OR DISTICT WORD FOR NATIONALITY AND RACE, WHICH IS “JATHIYA”!!!??? RACE MAY BE CEYLON/SRI LANKAN TAMIL, BUT DEFINITELY NOT FOR NATIONALITY!!???
                  Because of Language constraints, they force Tamils (Race) to be IMPLANTED for nationality in all documentation!!!??? That is selective discrimination, because the development of their Language is stunted or not developed fully due to short historical existence!!!???
                  So, the others have to suffer humiliation, because one’s language vocabulary is wanting!!!???
                  “WHO IS DIVIDING THE SL COMMUNITY”??? Even before FEDERATION!!!???
                  Bigotry!!!??? Haven’t any other descriptions to enable an explanation!!!

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                  (Part I)
                  Ruchira,
                  Leaving aside any and all ill-feeling regarding racial divisions aside, assuming we had no “Divergence of Thoughts”, based on Race, and Religion, try to think positively!!!???
                  If that limitation was in place (Hypothetically), there would have been “checks and Balances”, 2/3rd Majority denied!!?? At least SL constitution NOT like “DAILY NEWS SHEET”!!!???
                  (1) Would we the Sri Lankans have easily avoided the Ignominy of STARVATION & DEPRIVATION, in 2019/21, when expecting to experience VISTAS OF PROSPERITY AND SPLENDOUR!!????
                  (2) 18th amendment to constitution and
                  (3) Impeachment of CJ Shiranee Bandaranaike
                  (4) Prevarications, especially, artificially increasing cost of Loans financing projects and Looting the surplus to foreign countries by Patriotic Messiah’s and Apache’s!!!??
                  (5) Introspection, diverse political parties, ensures Governance Integrity – Selling of Reserves to defend, “UNDEFENDABLE” “Failing” Rupee vis-a-vis USD due falling exports, adverse Balance of Trade!!!???
                  Going from Colony to Dominion Status Leaders compromised
                  So, Sinhalese Leaders (Ceylon National Congress – CNC), convinced Lord Soulbury and Gullible, Colombo based Tamils to agree to single entity, with only ‘safeguard’, SECTION 29 C and The Privy Council as Final Court of Appeal – over the SC of Sri Lanka and SENATE – UPPER HOUSE – HOUSE OF REVIEW!!!
                  (TBC)

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                  (Part II)
                  Must applaud the cunningness, those 2 were dismantled, one by one, starting from 1960’s first became Unicameral from Bi-Cameral Legislature, and Privy Council as appellate court in the ‘Dustbin’ by 1963/4!!!???
                  Section 21 – to safeguard minority rights in Soulbury constitution, was UNCEREMONIOUSLY INTERRED at KANATTE on 22nd May 1972, the day the 1st Republic came into existence!!!???
                  That’s how we arrived at 1976 Vaddukoddai Resolution, LTTE and other terrorists, 30 year war, Indo-Sri Lanka accord, 13th amendment, conclusion with elimination of LTTE, which the Messiah claimed was the Impediment to Peace and agreeing to settlement with 13th Amendment “PLUS”!!!??? The GENIAL Appachi never, had the time to explain, what that “PLUS” entail in his award at end of war, cloistered by UN SG and then Indian PM!!!???
                  What is becoming clear now, is that he is hesitant to EVEN AWARDING THE 13TH INSTRUMENT with or without PLUS!!??? Politicians, GENIALITY AT ITS BEST AS IT COULD EVER BE!!!???

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                    So how does a federal state going to resolve all these issues you have highlighted?
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                    When the federal authority would be still at the hands of the majority Sinhala Buddhist chauvnists?
                    .
                    Why not a unitary state with devolved power or a separate country altogether?

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                    Also what is the basis of confederacy in Switzerland? Are they based on different racial origins? Like Germans having their own federal state etc.?

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      C
      “R, We are not asking for separate country. “
      From when?

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    MR.RUCHIRA-WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY.IS IT REALLY SINGALAYAS,TAMILS AND MUSLIMS LIVING PEACEFULLY IN THE SOUTH?ARE YOU NOT OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO TAMILS IN THE SOUTH IN 1958,1977,AND IN 1983.EVEN NOW AT ANY TIME THE SINGALAYAS CAN BE ROUSED TO CREATE ANOTHER 1983 IF PEOPLE LIKE SARATH WEERASEKERA AND COMPANY WANTED WITH THE BLESSING OF RANIL FOR HIM TO AVOID TO GO FOR ELECTIONS SOON.

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      P
      I note that Ruchira is not accurate in several details.
      However, the reality today is that there is, however temporarily it may be, harmony among the communities in the South.
      Trouble is stirred in the N&E by mischief makers with support from the state and the forces.
      One cannot turn a blind eye to it. Can we address it with the present style of exchanges?
      Elections?
      Have they changed anything for the better?

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        SJ,
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        In what details am I not accurate about and what are the accurate details?

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          For example:
          ” Some of the Tamils that came from Jaffna to Colombo, lived, studied and worked among us in Colombo without a problem”
          “Some” does not make it generally true.
          Life was not pleasant for a Tamil born in the N&E who lived in Colombo in the late 90s and in the first decade and a little after , with house to house checking, arbitrary arrests, requirement to register at a police station etc. were a little over the top. I myself had to spend a whole evening (until past midnight) to release a young boy who was picked up by the police rather arbitrarily, because the parents were helpless. this was a fairly regular event during a few years. (That is not to say that the Sinhalese people were unkind or hard on them, despite the fear that there is a ‘potential terrorist’ in any Tamil.)
          *
          “I personally find Tamil people wanting to have their own state, somewhat isolationist.”
          This is forgetting the history to it.
          It is not something that Tamils wanted even in 1976 at the time of the Vaddukkoddai resolution. but genuine grievances were mishandled and that led to a situation where the Tamils were boxed into a situation where they were compelled to vote for ‘secession’ in 1977. they were left with little political choice.

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            SJ,
            .
            I guess you are right in saying that grievances of the Tamil people were mishandled.
            .
            The treatment of Tamil in the South may have been unfair also with an ongoing war in the North. I don’t think that it is justified.
            .
            But let me also point out that in the South a lot of Sinhalese youth were treated equally bad by the police during JVP uprising. Some innocent youth were even killed. Torture camps and extra judicial killings were rampant and was the norm. But there was little to no international outrage to this date for the crimes committed against rebelling Sinhalese youth by the state.
            .
            Therefore such treatment metted out by government largely are systemic issue and may not necessarily racially motivate.
            .
            I don’t deny there are racist sentiments at all but doubt creating a federal state along racial lines is the best solution.

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              Ruchira,
              May I emphasise once again, it is not confined only Racial Issues, but deprivation of rights arbitrarily, including educational, cultural and welfare facilities to name a few!!!??? Even Religious observances at religious sites are at times, observed to be impeded!!!???
              Biggest and NOTABLE – lack of IMPLEMENTATION AND EXECUTION of the STATUTE – The Law of the Land – Selective and Partial and you may surmise favouring whom!!??? No guesses there!!!???
              The requirements for federal state of this Island nation in not confined to racism!!!??? Multi-lateral needs and wants, which has been deprived for 75 years, since independence!!!???
              The ultimate goal and objective is to maintain an indivisible, Undivided Sri Lanka with twin identities and prosperity!!!???
              Also, unhappy with the present style of leadership and Tamils after 75 years Yearning for different focus and type of leadership!!! In the current state, the Leadership changes attained, ‘Hitlerite’ or otherwise, leave much to be desired and LED ONLY TO BANKRUPTCY and STARVATION/DEPRIVATION by Mismanagement!!!??? System wouldn’t allow any other than Sinhala Buddhist leadership, Predominance of SB community – Only WORKABLE SOLUTION, 2 States with 1 NATION, EACH FEDERATED STATE MANAGE OWN AFFAIRS!!???

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                Once again Mahila you contradict yourself. You refer to multi-lateral needs ignoring the fact that the said multi-laterality come from differences in ethnicity, religion etc. Addressing the issues arisen out of these differnces goes beyond a federal Tamil state or states for Tamils and Muslims.

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              R
              Are we mixing apples and bananas?
              The fact that there is economic oppression is no justification for national or ethnic oppression.
              The insensitivity of one group of oppressed to another group does not destroy the case for either.

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                SJ,
                .
                Once again I agree. Can’t recall saying that I justify ethnic suppression because there is economic oppression. But alleviating economic injustices may relieve some of the sufferings of the minority communities, which of course doesn’t mean that their political aspirations should be ignored.

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              Ruchira,
              “Therefore such treatment metted out by government largely are systemic issue and may not necessarily racially motivate.”
              You sound a lot like Leonard Jayawardena. Does “systemic discrimination” feel better than racial discrimination to those who experience it?

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                Where have I claimed that it is?

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                  Ruchira
                  You talk of “systemic discrimination ” and say it is not necessarily “racial discrimination “.
                  There is someone called the “duck test”:
                  The duck test—”If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck”—suggests that something can be identified by its habitual characteristics.

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                    Not sure what you are implying here and the relavance of your duck test.
                    .
                    If the system as a whole is corrupt and oppressive, the victims are not that of a single ethnic community. That’s not a racial issue.
                    .
                    Such systemic corruption would prevail even if a satisfactory solution was found for the Tamil National issue.
                    .
                    They are two different things. That require two different solutions.
                    .
                    You can’t put them in the same category simply because both have victims.

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                OC, thanks for saving my time. There were many before and I’m sure there are more to come. Aren’t we lucky to have so many (patriots ) out there , to save our bankrupt nation ???

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                  Chiv,
                  Some of the earlier patriots were a lot more virulent. But then Gota turned out to have clay feet.

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      Firstly no need to shout. There are extremists in all sides. No I am not old enough to know what happened in 1958 and 1977. But I can vaguely remember 1983 which was an attack on Tamil people provoked by Sinhalese leaders in the South who over the years due to their mismanagement has led the country to banckruptcy. They have failed to live upto the expectations and aspirations of not just Tamil people but also Sinhalese.

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      Mr Paragon
      You may be right.
      Then why is everyone on CT became furious when I proposed a referendum among the Tamil speaking people living in Sinhala majority provinces .
      Can you explain why Tamil speaking people should not be given that fundamental right to express themselves on this most critical issue?
      .
      Soma

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        WHY THE NEED FOR REFERNDUM!!!???
        IN SWITZERLAND, A GERMAN COULDN’T LIVE IN THE FRENCH OR ITALIAN SECTOR!!!???
        What a load of Hog Wash and BS. to OBFUSCATE the issue and the process!!!
        Not enough the Uneducated Sinhalese Rural folk have been led up the garden Path to NOWHERE and you are trying yours with the Tamils living among the southern predominantly Sinhalese community and lead them up the GUMTREE!!!???

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          Mahila
          Why are you so strongly opposed to giving the democratic right of choice to your own people?
          May be less than 10% of Tamil speaking people are agreeable to your idea. Who knows?
          Could you propose any alternative method other a referendum to find out the choice of Tamil speaking people?

          Soma

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        Soma – You have been peddling this absurd notion for years.

        1) Did you ever lobby any of the SL governments to date for such a referendum? You do know that you don’t need the backing of the CT readers for it to materialise!!!

        2) Why do you think none of the SB Nationalist party or representative ever proposed this genius idea of yours? Even if they aren’t bright enough to think of it, they sure are good at grand scale theft… Yet none dared touch your ingenious idea

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          Sugandh
          Why are you so strongly opposed to giving the democratic right of choice to your own people?
          May be less than 10% of Tamil speaking people are agreeable to your idea.

          Soma

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            In other words, you never made any effort towards actually materializing such a referendum in real life ——— Is that right, Soma?

            It doesn’t matter whether I am opposed to your “may be”s, ifs, and other delusions. If you have the utmost confidence in your idea, then make it happen in real life ——— No use in quacking it here years on end

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    C AND R,
    “In the north and East CRIMES ARE HIGH DESPITE THE FACT AMOUNT OF ARM FORCES we have but offenders are free why it’s Tamils probs no development nothing so ever”
    No Rocket Science Needed, Mr Watson!!!??? With that kind of armed security people compared to south, the only reasonable INFERENCE AND CONCLUSION is COLLUSION with CRIMINAL ELEMENTS!?
    You may ask unwittingly BY WHOM!!???? EVERYONE’S “SANITISED GUESS”. GOOD AS MINE – EVEN BETTER, unless BLINDED by BEGOTRY!?

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    Sri Lanka is the only country to which Sinhala people are indigenous. Therefore I think it should be made part of the world heritage that preserves Sinhalese people, their language and cultural identity.

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      If that is an argument there are scores of nationalities to whom the country where they live is only country to which they are indigenous. Some of them are “purer” races than Tamils or Sinhalese.
      Preservation of language and cultural identity is up to the people. See what is happening to the Sinhala identity (or even Tamil or Muslim identity). the past several decades reflects a return of colonial values. (Neo-colonial to be precise.)
      Will making it part of the world heritage help?
      Tamils are destroying their language and culture where they are in charge. So are the Sinhalese.
      I fear that some ancient tribes may preserve their culture for longer than the Sinhalese or Tamils, who seem set on a course of cultural suicide.

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        Exactly!
        .
        Should we then attempt to create environments that foster separate cultural identities or should we try to create environments in which we could transcend such identities?

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          They should have self government and autonomy to protect ther rights and identity as long as they wish to, as they have in many countries including Nicaragua the Soviet Union and China.
          There was some such protection for tribals in India, but it is now being eroded by the state and MNCs.

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            SJ
            Is there a way to find out the opinion of majority Tamil speaking people over this most critical question?
            May be less than 10% of Tamil speaking people desire any kind of autonomy.
            Who knows?

            Soma

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              I do not think that an opinion poll is the way to address the issues.

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            Hello SJ,
            Tell that to the Crimean Tatars, not to mention the Ukrainians, and the Chinese Hui and Uyghur peoples. As for Nicaragua read what IWGIA – International Work Group for Indigenous Affairs has to say – e.g.
            In 2016, the IACHR granted precautionary measures in favour of 12 communities. However, the State of Nicaragua did not respect the precautionary measures, and community members are still unable to move freely and use their lands to engage in hunting, fishing, and fruit gathering activities because they are faced with armed settlers who are invading encroaching upon their lands.
            Best Regards

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              Your list is pathetically flawed.
              Read a little of the other side of the story even if it will not change your position.

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      Ruchira,
      If I put it correctly, island of Sri Lanka is the only island not only for indigenous Sinhala people but also for indigenous Tamil people. Both current Sinhala and Tamil people may have had close relationship with India. It is also wrong to assume that Tamils do not like to live with Sinhalese. But Tamils do not want to be a third class citizens of this island by Sinhalese only governments. I believe you are an educated person and you understand what is the difference between equality and inequality and how your governments brought bankcruptcy to your people even after the end of war.

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        Ajith,
        .
        I think you missed my point. May be you should read my comment to SJ.
        .
        I agree the leaders have driven the country to banckruptcy. These are the same leaders that mismanaged the ethnic problem creating irrepairable disharmony between Tamil and Sinhalese communities.
        .
        That said my question is how a separate federal state united as one Sri Lanka then going to help the situation?
        .
        Wouldn’t Tamil people be better off a country of their own?
        .
        What would be the plight of Tamil people already living in the Sinhala majority areas?
        .
        Would a separate federal state solve their problems? Will they be elevated to first class citizens by simply having a federal Tamil state in the North?

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          Ruchira,
          “Finally, I also think that if Tamil People are not willing to live in one Sri Lanka, a unitary state, it is better for them to have a separate country instead of a federal state.”
          The above is your final statement.This above statement looks like that Tamils did not like to live in one country and unitary system. That fact is that Tamils, Sinhalese and others were united together to get rid of British rule. Further, You may be aware that before British rule, there were three kingdoms in this country you called now Sri Lanka. You may be also aware that there are number of countries have different federal systems within one Country. India has one, UK has one, USA have one and many other.
          Yes, Tamils may be better off or worse off in their own country economically or politically but you don’t need another government to treat you as slaves of them.
          There are number of Indians, Pakistanies, Sinhalese, Tamils, Chinese live in many countries because these countries are safe for them and many have dual citizenship. For example, Gotabaya, Basil and so many politicians and families are dual citizens. So, Tamils like to live in majority Sinhala have the options. Similarly, Sinhalese living Tamil majority areas have the same options.

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            Agreed. I am not suggesting that we create a separate country for Tamils and ask all the Tamils to move there and live happily ever after. I am suggesting that it is better for the Tamils to have a Separate country in the North or the North and East than a federal state within a United Sri Lanka given their disastisfaction with devolution of power within a Unitary State of Sri Lanka, as a solution to the Tamil National Question.

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              Ruchira,
              Thank you for your suggestion. I think your understanding of the devolution of power, federal state, and unitary state are much different to us and can you please tell us how to create a separate country for Tamils?

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                I really don’t know how to create one, how would you create a federal state?

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                “…please tell us how to create a separate country for Tamils?”
                I thought that not very long ago you claimed that you never asked for separation!

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    Finally I also think that if Tamil people are not willing to live in one Sri Lanka, a unitary state, it is better for them to have a separate country instead of a federal state. One which they are free to govern and develop the way they want and leave those who are willing to live in peace and harmony focussing on more important questions without fear, harassment, intimidation and exploitation by people with petty, narrow and perverted minds that not even a child is safe from.

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      Ruchira,
      “One which they are free to govern and develop the way they want and leave those who are willing to live in peace and harmony focussing on more important questions without fear, harassment, intimidation and exploitation by people with petty, narrow and PERVERTED MINDS THAT NOT EVEN A CHILD IS SAFE FROM.”
      Good point.
      Whom or what are you referring to???
      Are you alluding to the Hyper increase in Child abuse in Sri Lanka!!?? Or, children admitted to Hospitals all over in SL reportedly bleeding rectums – a phenomenon reported by Medical authorities as very CONCERNING development, needing Remediation!!???

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        I am referring to any perpertrator of the said crimes.

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        Some of them make eloquent speeches and write equally eloquent articles and proclaim they are for this right and that right. There are a lot of wolves in sheeps’ clothing.

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          There are rights and wrongs regardless of personal opinions.
          Should we not leave out personalities and focus on issues.

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            How do you do that? Do issues exist in a vaccum that has no personalities?

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              Issues exist regardless of ‘personalities’ who may express their views.
              And there are opinions and there are facts. I think that the latter are more important.
              A statement deserves consideration far more on its own virtue than our opinions of the person who expressed it.

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                SJ,
                .
                “A statement deserves consideration far more on its own virtue than our opinions of the person who expressed it.”
                .
                Thank you for pointing that out. A concept that seems to be alien to most who comment here.
                .
                You are right when it is about opinions and personalities that we should focus on the opinion expressed than the person, but I thought we were talking about crimes committed against children here in the above comments.
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                In which case criminals need to be identified and dealt with while addressing larger issues.

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      Ruchira,

      Do you think Tamil peoples not wanting to live in the UNITARY Sri Lanka is a obstacle to “””focussing on more important questions””” (because certainly that focus is not happening right now) or is it that a certain majority has fundamental issues with running the country when any minority is not being harassed?????????????
      in fact if tamils get a seprate state, the first things Sri Lanka is going to do is quite obvious and it is shame you think otherwise.

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        Kaput
        May be Less than 10% of Tamil speaking people desire any kind of autonomy. Who knows?

        Soma

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        Yes and No. If a solution could be found to the Tamil National Question that would be one less problem to focus on ( a big one for that matter) and would be definitely helpful in focussing on other problems.
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        Your second part of the first statement is why I suggest that Tamils deserve a separate country not a federal state.
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        I am not sure what you imply in your last statement. May be you could be more explicit?

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      ruchira
      “Finally I also think that if Tamil people are not willing to live in one Sri Lanka, a unitary state, it is better for them to have a separate country instead of a federal state.”

      that would be a stupid decision for both parties.External forces would set one against the other and there could be a war.Anyway you have a misconception that if tamils want a quasi federal state(the governemnet there can be dissolved for a fresh election like what happenned in tamilnadu when MGR dies and wife and mistress were fighting and nobody governing) that they are not willing to live in one country.Indeed they are willing to live in one country and devolution is the thread that woves them together with the sinhalese like a marriage does with the signing in the registry.

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        Shankar,
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        There are close to 200 countries in the world and most of them carry on peacefully with few exceptions. And it may be worthwhile for you to see where there is no peace what the so called external forces in operation that deny them of their peace actually are. Ukraine is a perfect example where you could begin.
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        Therefore I don’t see why another country for Tamils in the North of Sri Lanka would automatically means war.
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        You say it will give external forces an opportunity set Tamils and Sinhalese against each other and cause a war. Do you think that in the post-independance history that external forces have not had a hand in the conflict between the Tamils and Sinhalese? If so you are the foolish one.
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        India has openely stated that they helped the LTTE and their reason for doing so. May be it is worth for you to check out what the reason is? If you think it is purely out of concern of Tamil people you are again the foolish one.
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        On the contrary a separate country in the North would help the external forces to engage the two countries as a whole to exercise their strategic interests better without getting entangled in the prevailing conflict and worsening it, which they usually seem to do.

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      It was under this Sinhalese dominated unitary constitution that all these marginalization, discrimination, denial of language rights, higher education/employment to Tamils, structural genocide, ethnic cleansing of Tamil lands, especially in the east and large scaled planned settlement of Sinhalese to deliberately change the demography of the Tamil areas, destruction of ancient Tamil historical/heritage and Hindu religious sites and forcibly converting them to Buddhist by using fake/concocted history and war crimes took place and is still taking place. If there had been a federal form of government as advocated first by a Sinhalese, ironically SWRD Bandaranaike for the three native population, the low country Sinhalese, Kandyan Sinhalese and the Sri Lankan Tamils this would not have happened. Unfortunately, later to gain power Bandaranaike, changed his policies and introduced the race and language card.

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        Strangely he like many of the present-day Sinhalese leaders, elite and politicians now playing the race and religion card, was of recent South Indian Tamil immigrant origin. DS and the Sinhalese political leaders/elite promised and gave an undertaking to the Tamil leaders at the time of independence that Tamil rights will be safeguarded, under a unitary form of government and the island will be a truly multiethnic, multi religious state with equal rights for everyone and there was no need of the Tamils demanding a federal form of government from the British and these so called leaders naively believed, all these Sinhalese promises and undertaking, which everyone knows it not worth anything, verbal, written, national or international ( like the 1987 Indo Sri Lanka accord) they know how to food the world, with all sorts of promises and undertakings , simper and smile and as soon as they get what they want they tear up the agreement and dishonour it. If there had been a federal form of government and not the unitary form of government, the island’s Tamils/Tamil speakers will not be in their current position, the Indian origin Tamils would not have been stateless and the land language heritage history of the native Tamils from the north and east would have been safeguarded from Sinhalese Buddhist extremists and now Islamic fanatics.

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          However, it did not happen as then largely Colombo based Tamil leaders and elite naively believed in the fake promises of the Sinhalese leaders, who were their friends and in many cases relatives. The Sinhalese had already planned this long before independence and wanted a unitary form of government so that they can use their majority to do what they had planned. Basically, to marginalize the Tamils and create only a Sinhalese Buddhist only country. This is the reason they still do not want a federal setup as they have not completed what they planned, even after the defeat of the LTTE. The Federal setup with land and police powers will put a stop to this.

          This is the reason they still do not want a federal setup as they have not completed what they planned, even after the defeat of the LTTE. The Federal setup with land and police powers will put a stop to this. As for Ponnambalam claiming 50/50 , he did not claim 50% just for the Tamils only but for all the minorities and 50% for the Sinhalese, as at that time the Sinhalese were 66.66% of the population Tamils around 26% Muslims 7%. 40/60 would have been reasonable and just as minorities always get a higher percentage as a matter of safeguard from majority tyranny.

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            Now look at the makeup of the public service, the armed forces, police and many other forms of employment, even in Tamil/Tamil speaking majority areas. 95% or more of the employees are Sinhalese and more than 95% of the government resources and revenue spent exclusively only in Sinhalese areas and on the Sinhalese people with hardly anything spent on the Tamils and Tamil speaker, despite them constituting 25% of the country’ s population. What Mr. Ponnambalam proposed 50/50 of employment and resource sharing between the Singhalese and non-Sinhalese when the Sinhalese were only 66% of the population sounds and looks far more reasonable than this 95% on Sinhalese and 5% on others. Tamils (excluding the Tamil speaking or Tamil Muslims/Moors) were around 26% at the time of independence and now within 70 years of independence their population under a majoritarian Sinhalese Buddhist unitary state has been reduced almost to half 16%. Almost 1/3 of the ancient Tamil homeland, especially in the east has now been stolen and colonized by outside Sinhalese.

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              All this under a unitary state. If this calculated and planned ethnic cleansing and structural genocide, then what do you call it? All this under a so called unitary state that the Sinhalese control, no wonder they do not want to change it, as they want to complete what they had planned. The destruction of the island’s Tamils. Trying to say or pretend to be ignorant of what really happened is no excuse and to make matters worse promote/create your own version of history in favour of the Sinhalese is even worse. It may work at other sites but will definitely not work here, thanks to many just and fair-minded Sinhalese bloggers and moderators. This is one of the few sites where Tamils can freely express what they feel and their opinions

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      This kind of incorrigibility and ignorance of the majoritarians make a great case for the North+East to separate.

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        Does not the same majoritarian attitude exist among Tamils at various cross sections?
        Will you like a list and examples?

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          If it is relevant to the topic of discussion, present it. You don’t need my blessing. Don’t ask me for permission for your sideshows, propagandas, and agendas.

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            Thanks for waiving need for your blessings.
            Is is just as relevant as your comment if not more.
            Attitude towards the Muslims for a start.
            Now the fast emerging anti-Christian trend.
            Want some more?
            *
            Thanks for the second sentence. Most revealing about you.

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              Very relevant to the secession of North+East!

              The attitude towards Muslims everywhere else in the island today is heart warming for you???

              Long existing anti-Christian missionary sentiments everywhere else in the island is not visible through your pink glasses?????

              My second sentence called out your coloured glasses, with which I am sure most CT regulars are very familiar.

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    There are lot of responses here to the posts that I have made. I am afraid I have not replied to all of them.
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    On one hand I am pressed for time and on the other most responses give a lot of details and perspectives and are all jumbled together making it difficult to follow the thought process behind them to respond meaningfully.
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    In addition some are also hateful and arrogant. I have tried to be polite and tried to understand theses responses and grievances they represent to which also I have found to be at fault.
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    Anyway I will try to reply to as many comments as possible as the time permits, because from what I gathered the comments section automatically shuts down after 5 days.
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    That said some of the things to note are that it is topic that many subscribers here are interested in, judging by the number of comments this article has generated.
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    It is also clear that it is a topic that people are quite emotional about, and perhaps rightly so. Something for all parties interested in achieving meaningful communal harmony to make a note of.

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      When one wades in to a topic of this calibre and makes statements that are ignorant of factual information and makes wild assumptions about the experiences of the affected people, it is bound to receive such backlash.

      Your responses too left a taste of SB majoritarian chauvinism. Even today, the Tamils in the North and East are victimized to preserve Sinhala Buddhism. Reliable reports on the issues that the Tamils in the North and East face today are easy to access and just as well historical accounts of the plight of Ceylon Tamils since independence.

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        Sugandh
        You have your opinion, Ruchira has his opinion and I have my opinion.
        What matters is the opinion of majority Tamil speaking people.

        Soma

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          “What matters is the opinion of majority Tamil speaking people.”
          I thought that they call this a SB country. Does not their opinion matter?

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        I merely stated the volume of responses received and my inability to respond to all presented facts and POVs individually but your perception that it is a bkacklash may shed light to the roots of the conflict and why it prevail without an effective solution so far.

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          Do you really believe that there wasn’t a backlash, and that there was no basis for any backlash to your statements?

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            Sugandh,
            I don’t know about you, but Ruchira appears young enough not to be aware of even 1983. You shouldn’t blame him for not knowing things which happened before he was born.
            You cannot expect him to understand why many react with anger.

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              OC, good to hear from you.

              I’m dismayed by the recklessness of this seemingly bright person. A case of ‘dog chasing its own tail’… with Soma’s blessings.

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            My position is whether it is a blacklash or not is a matter of perspective. You seem to think it was a backlash. I didn’t think of it is one untill you came up with.

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