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There’s Nothing Called State Sovereignty Today

By M.A. Sumanthiran

M.A. Sumanthiran PC

Honourable Presiding Member, I am happy to follow the Minister himself as we discuss the votes on the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The Minister is an experienced parliamentarian and able person and I’m glad to discuss a few matters with regard to Sri Lanka’s foreign policy while he is present together with also a very able and dynamic young parliamentarian, the Minister of State for Foreign Affairs. It was rather comical to witness the spectacle this morning as we started the debate – the bickering between the government benches and the main opposition each trying to absolve themselves from responsibilities they had undertaken in the international arena. Honourable Lakshman Kiriella blaming President Mahinda Rajapaksa, for agreeing with the Secretary General of the UN on the 26th of May 2009 in Kandy, undertaking to inquire into the allegations of human rights violations. And for his part, the Honorable Minister blaming the main opposition when they were in office for co-sponsoring resolution HRC 30/1 before the UN Human Rights Council. These acts are not acts of certain governments that are in office at a particular point in time, these undertakings are given on behalf of the state and in the international system these obligations are taken very seriously. The Minister read out the letter sent in February this year claiming to withdraw from the co-sponsorship of resolution HRC 30/1. All of us know that you can’t withdraw from an act that is already done. The Minister was heard to say in this House that that co-sponsorship happened without the knowledge of anyone not even the President of that time.

I want to ask a question: if that be so, how did Sri Lanka co-sponsor resolution 34/1 and 40/1 several months thereafter both of which were merely roll-over resolutions of 30/1. 30/1 was done on the 1st of October 2015. 34/1 was in March 2017 and 40/1 was in March 2019. Three times over! same contents and how does a responsible Minister stand up here and say nobody knew about the contents. These undertakings are on behalf of Sri Lanka. Of the state! There are serious repercussions if you resile from international commitments.

I want to post another question: on the 29th of July 1987 Sri Lanka entered into an international bilateral agreement with India, commonly known as the Indo-Lanka Accord. Various speakers in this House at various times will say various things about this agreement. Mr. Foreign Minister, would you have the courage to write a letter to India like you did to the UN Human Rights Council and withdraw from the Indo-Lanka Accord? If you don’t and if you haven’t done that over several decades of your party in office, you must honour it. No point saying this was thrust down our throat; if it was thrust down your throat withdraw – write a letter to India like you did to the UN human Rights council. Are you brave enough to do that? If you don’t, I will read out the fundamental principles of the Indo-Lanka accord which is still binding on Sri Lanka. It is an international bilateral agreement: first, Sri Lanka is a multi-ethnic and a multi-lingual society, second, each ethnic group has a distinct cultural and linguistic identity which has to be carefully nurtured. And third, the Northern and the Eastern provinces have been areas of historical habitation of Sri Lankan Tamil speaking peoples. Basic principles laid down at the forefront of the Indo-Lanka Accord. You can’t resile from that, nor can you even resile from undertakings given to the UN Human Rights Council – not once, but three times. But more importantly, what President Rajapaksa did. Before President Rajapaksa did that in May 2009, on the 02nd of March 2009 honourable Mahinda Samarasinghe on behalf of Sri Lanka said this at the UN Human Rights Council. He says: “Our National discourse has been dominated for decades by an ethnic issue which requires a political solution as a means to resolve the problem”, he didn’t say a military solution, he said it requires a political solution. “On a recommendation of the all-party representative committee we are able to properly implement the 13th amendment to the constitution which was passed in 1987”.

Words of your government’s Minister at that time, and following that on the 26th of May, this is what President Mahinda Rajapaksa said in the joint communique with the UN Secretary General. President Rajapaksa expressed his firm resolve to proceed with the implementation of the 13th amendment, as well as to begin a broader dialog with all parties including the Tamil parties in the new circumstances to further enhance this process and to bring about lasting peace and development in Sri Lanka. Now why did he do that? Will you write a letter to the UN Secretary General withdrawing from this commitment, that your President did this on the 26th of May 2009? He said this, not only the implementation of the 13th amendment. 11 years have passed and it has not been implemented, your solemn promise, your leader’s solemn promise to the Secretary General of the UN, no less! I am saying this because there are repercussions if you don’t deliver on your promises to the international community. You pride yourself that we are a part of the civilized community of nations. We will not be part of the civilized community of nations if we willy-nilly ignore and violate commitments we make to the international community.

And the very next day, on the 27th of May 2009, the day after President Mahinda Rajapaksa agreed – I am only referring to his guarantee of implementation of the 13th amendment and going beyond that but there are other agreements in that with regard to violation of human Rights and that there will be a domestic mechanism in your letter in February this year too you say there’ll be a domestic mechanism where is it? Several months have passed, where is that? Where is that plan? For 11 years you fooled the world now for 11 months or so you have fooled the world or you think that you can fool all the people all the time. That’s what you think, because the very next day at the UN Human Rights Council a resolution was adopted which said “welcoming also the recent assurance given by the President of Sri Lanka”, the previous day he gave that assurance, “welcoming also the recent assurance given by the President of Sri Lanka, that he does not regard a military solution as a final solution as well as his commitment to a political solution with the implementation of the 13th amendment to bring about lasting peace and reconciliation in Sri Lanka.” So 13th amendment implementation was the first step, that was promised for over and over and over again, not just to the UN human rights council but to India and I am going to read the three joint communicates that were issued once with Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh where President Mahinda Rajapaksa’s commitment was recorded “ The Prime Minister emphasized that a meaningful devolution package, this was in June 2010, 10 years have passed, building upon the 13th amendment that’s what honourable Mahinda Rajapaksa said: …would create the necessary conditions for a lasting political settlement. So he said building a …. 

Here comes the honorable Mahinda Samarasinghe who gave the assurance to the UN on the 2nd of March 2009. …

“The president of Sri Lanka reiterated his determination to evolve a political settlement acceptable to all communities that would act as a catalyst to create necessary conditions in which all the people of Sri Lanka could lead their lives in an atmosphere of Peace, Justice and dignity. Consistent with democracy pluralism, equal opportunity and respect for human rights.” Towards this saying the President expressed his resolve to continue to implement in particular the relevant provisions of the constitution designed to strengthen national amity, and reconciliation through empowerment in this context he shared his ideas on conducting a broader dialog with all parties involved. The Prime minister of India expressed India’s constructive support for efforts that build peace and reconciliation among all communities in Sri Lanka.

Now this was followed when, then external affairs Minister prof. G.L. Peiris visited New Delhi in May 2011, in a joint press statement, I am glad that Prof. Peiris is in the house when I quote it. “The external affairs minister of Sri Lanka affirmed its government’s commitment to ensuring expeditions and concrete progress in the ongoing dialogue between the government of Sri Lanka and representatives of the Tamil parties. A devolution package “building upon the 13th amendment” “words of assurance given by Prof. Peiris,” to India. Building upon the 13th amendment would contribute towards creating a necessary condition for such reconciliation again reiterated in January 2012 when external affairs minister S. M. Krishna visited Sri Lanka and with Prof. Peiris by his side this is what he said “The Government of Sri Lanka has on many occasions conveyed to us its commitment to move towards a political settlement based on full implementation of the 13th amendment to the Sri Lankan constitution and building on it so as to achieve meaningful devolution of powers, we look forward to an expeditious and constructive approach to the dialogue process. A decade has passed. You haven’t done a thing, some efforts were taken at the last government. We participated in good faith, members who are now in the government also participated the Honourable minister of foreign affairs was a member of the steering committee, Honourable Susil Premajayanth even headed an ad-hoc committee, with regard to the relations between the Parliament and the provincial councils and gave a good report. Honourable Bandula Gunawardene chaired another committee, Honourable Mahinda Samarasinghe chaired another committee on Human rights or fundamental rights and gave a brilliant report, Honourable Dr. Wijeyadasa Rajapakshe who hides behind his lamp all the time here in this house in these sessions was also a member of the steering committee and drafted the proposals with regard to the land powers.

So there was an effort, but that you have abandon now. Yes state minister ….. thank you… , thank you for that assurance that you will abide by all the assurances given to the world. Before I conclude I need to touch on one or two other matters, I am thankful for the number that the minister gave of the Sri Lankans who have been repatriated, but there is a serious issue with regard to the people in the Middle East. Our labour force contribute so much to our economy not being given priority in the repatriation process. I hope the foreign minister will look into that and will give them the priority. Secondly, this is the month of November in which I said this sometime ago also, all those who died in wars are remembered. That is why we sell poppy – world over this is the period in which it happens, and in Sri Lanka particularly in the Tamil areas for the last 3 decades it has become a custom to remember the dead who fought the war, they may have fought the state but nevertheless they are dead and their families and others have a right to remember them as they are accustomed to do. The government has taken great exception to this now suddenly this year and is flying members of the Attorney General’s Department by a special helicopter to Jaffna, to Mullaitivu – to all over the place amid covid restrictions when the attorney generals department is in the isolation zone, they are flying around all over without being quarantined to oppose and to obtain orders from the magistrates preventing mothers, fathers, sisters brothers remembering the dead. Most unfortunate, most undignified act by the stat. Honouring the dead, remembering the dead is even in our culture a solemn affair, to be chasing after people … the other day I stood with a mother, 83 years old, she has only a shack for a house, her son died in 1985, and as she lit her lamp, I participated in that event, a solemn occasion.

Why are you so worried, why are you so scared of the dead? Is it because you put them to death in the most brutal manner violating all the international norms? The other thing is sovereignty is for all the people. Sovereignty is not to be enjoyed by the majority only, and that must be kept in mind  If the majority only enjoys sovereignty then you are leaving the other peoples out. You are forcing them to claim their own sovereignty and that would be your own act. The foreign minister when he started, said he wants to give a lesson to Honourable Lakshman Kiriella about the fact that India is a Union because they had princely states and they had to be brought together, I want to ask him about the history of this Island, when the Europeans conquered this Island was there one state here? Was there one kingdom in this Island? No, there wasn’t one kingdom in this Island, there were three kingdoms in this Island, and they all fell to Western powers at different times. It was only in 1833, consequent to Colebrook-Cameron commission report, for administrative convenience it was made one country, so you must remember when you try to take lessons on how India became a Union or how the United States of America became states coming together remember the history of this country as well. This country consists of different peoples who each have their own right in International Law; violation of International law is not a domestic matter. You can’t hide behind the cloak of sovereignty, state sovereignty. There’s nothing called state sovereignty today; sovereignty is to be enjoyed by the people. You can’t hide behind the concept of state sovereignty and violate international law and claim that it is a domestic matter. You know that very well. So fashioning the country’s foreign policy you have now gone on reverse gear; you have put the country at peril and on this particular occasion when we debate the votes on the foreign ministry I think it is our duty to bring it to your notice that you need to turnaround. And promoting accountability and reconciliation is not a matter that violates the sovereignty of any country. Thank you. 

*Transcript of the speech made by M.A Sumanthiran in Parliament on the 25th of November.

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    Sumantiran!
    ” Why are you worried, why are you scared of the dead.” It is not that they are worried or scared of the dead but they are worried and guilty of the manner in which they were put to death. The dead also tell tales.

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      For what purpose of sovereignty for Terrorists Oriented Tamils and Muslims for Sinhalese Aryans country Sri Lanka (Heladiva) Even Alabama also not having sovereignty in the USA. Is there any state sovereignty in Tamil Nadu?

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        N.P,
        Are you for real?

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    Mr. Sumanthiran: In your speech, you wanted many letters to be written, withdrawing from “that” and “this” agreements and undertakings. Did you fail to get that from the President’s address to the nation, in which he said: “I am elected to be the President by the 6.9 million or more of the Sinhala voters”. The President is the Head of the State and he is duty-bound and obliged to carry on with the mandate of that “6.9 million Sinhala” voters. Then at the 75th session of the UNO, he (President) said, “I urge the other countries not to interfere with our Internal Matters”. This was confirmed by “Prof” G.L Peiris, the Minister of Education in his address in the Parliament session in which you are now taking the stand. I understand your “request” to “write” letters more like a “Challange”. Am I correct? Now the “World” that does not “Exists” in the minds of our President, his Ministers, and Government side “Kootadies” has begun to feel the “Pulse”. That is why “Moodys” “CCC” classification, the visit of “Defence” personnel from India and Maldives are in the country. That “Visit” and its purpose is kept a “Secret”, because when a Lawmaker wanted to question it the “Hon. Speaker” prevented it.

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      Intelligent commentary or suggestions don’t count for much in that unholy brothel on the Diyawanna.Mr. Sumanthiran should try chillie powder.
      “Mr. Foreign Minister, would you have the courage to write a letter to India like you did to the UN Human Rights Council and withdraw from the Indo-Lanka Accord? “
      Bad idea. On the other hand, we could get lots of free parippu, and in the current situation, wouldn’t that be useful ?

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        old codger

        “On the other hand, we could get lots of free parippu, and in the current situation, wouldn’t that be useful ?”

        And we can sell it on the Black market.

        Why does Hindia send its top functionaries every time our politicians mutter “13th A, Provincial Council, Trincomalee Oil Tank, Sovereignty, security, …………………. “?

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          Native Vedda?
          Because they are uncivilized.
          Civilized people do not interfere in internal affairs of a sovereign nation.

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            Eagle,
            Citizens of other countries should not interfere in Sri Lankan affairs,.agreed. Especially those foreign vultures wearing Eagle feathers.

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        Old Codger,
        Sometime back you guys made a fuss saying that a Tamil or a Muslim have not been given a chance to be the President or Prime Minister in Sri Lanka. I am just curious to know whether there was a Tamil Dalit elected as the Chief Minister of Northern Province.

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          Eagle,
          “was a Tamil Dalit elected as the Chief Minister of Northern Province.”
          Yes, and he ruled for many years. But he wasn’t elected, and his position was Thalaivar, not CM.
          On the other hand, has a Sinhala Dalit ever been Malwatta Mahanayaka ?

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          EE
          There was not very long ago a Dalit Mayor of Jaffna.

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            SJ

            “There was not very long ago a Dalit Mayor of Jaffna.”

            However he was not allowed to declare open Jaffna library after it being rebuilt and refurbished at the instigation of VP’s b***s carriers.

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        Sri Lanka (Heladiva) taught good lessons to India, first Sri Lankan soldier gave the best guard of honor to Rajiv Gandhi and LTTE also gave a final salute to Gandhi also. No need for our Foreign Minister to write letters to the UN Human Rights Council. What is the Indo-Lanka Accord? It is gone with the wind with Rajiv Gandhi also.

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      “I am elected to be the President by the 6.9 million or more of the Sinhala voters”.
      “I urge the other countries not to interfere with our Internal Matters”.
      \
      WOW … GOTA has blurted out the truth: The fate of the minority communities in the country is in the hands of the Sinhala majority and the world can do nothing about it. If you tell us what to do with them, we take it as an affront to our sovereignty. It is our right to treat them the way we want.

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      Simon

      “Did you fail to get that from the President’s address to the nation, in which he said: “I am elected to be the President ……………………Then at the 75th session of the UNO, he (President) said, “I urge the other countries not to interfere with our Internal Matters”.


      I don’t know why every time Gota utters something it reminds me of a Nursery Rhyme:

      Simple Simon went a-fishing
      For to catch a whale,
      All the water he had got
      Was in his mother’s pail.

      Simple Simon went to look
      If plums grew on a thistle,
      He pricked his fingers very much,
      Which made poor Simon whistle.

      Simple Simon went to town
      To buy a piece of meat,
      He tied it to his horse’s tail
      To keep it clean and sweet.

      Nothing personal.

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        Native Vedda: Thank you. I enjoyed that poem.

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    Sumanthiran, I must say that there is no other orator like you or who can match your standard in Sri Lankan politics today. Well done.
    However, in future there is no point is referring to G L Pieris in the Parliament or outside as we all know what a “monkey politician” he is. He jumped from party to party and as he jumped his views, commitments and policies changed to satisfy the whims and fancies of that respective party leader. Why do you comment on what he has said in the past we all know that no one respects his words or ideas any more. He is now in-charge of education and I wonder what the young minds can gain from his direction as he is a liar and an untrustworthy person. He is trying to be relevant from time to time commenting on foreign ministry matters and I wonder why the present senior politician who is the Minister allows this joker to comment on his subject?
    The other problem I see in SL today is that Buddhists, Christians and Muslims have a religious structure with strong heads such as Mahanayakes, Cardinal, Moulavies but Hindus do not have such a structure or such a leading head. Today politics is directed or managed by the religious leaders.

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      “…Hindus do not have such a structure or such a leading head”
      *
      Buddhist1, having seem what the ‘strong heads’ do, should not Hindus be thankful that they neither have one nor a structure that enables one?

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        “should not Hindus be thankful that”
        Good point SJ

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    ” the other day I stood with a mother, 83 years old, she has only a shack for a house, her son died in 1985, and as she lit her lamp, I participated in that event, a solemn occasion.”
    Thank you Sumanthiran, MP. You have the right to talk this in parliament. But in North East, Rapist Army used jackboots to physically crush the relative for the crime of carrying their loved ones in their heart and on tear falling eyes. I saw in nature video, a lioness hunting a dear and latter coming to know she had a suckling fawn, struggled to take care of the small. A mother only knows another mother. There nothing as animal or wild, but other than Rapist SinhaLE Army.
    TGTE said in a recent statement said: “they fought against oppression, they didn’t fight to oppress anybody. “

    “A devolution package “building upon the 13th amendment” “words of assurance given by Prof. Peiris,” to India. It sounds like, as always, GLP didn’t have a backbone to stand up and tell an answer for that.

    “This country consists of different peoples who each have their own right in International Law; violation of International law is not a domestic matter. You can’t hide behind the cloak of sovereignty, state sovereignty. There’s nothing called state sovereignty today; sovereignty is to be enjoyed by the people. “

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    Sinhalese are not sovereign as government claims for they are weak economically. However, such sovereignty is not nonexistent in the world as Sumanthiran claims. When ICC started investigating war crimes by US military in Afganistan US declared it will impose sanctions on ICC. This will not end with Trump for even Obama never ratified Rome statute.

    TNA which Sumanthiran represents declared LTTE was the sole representative of Tamils. LTTE was a terrorist organization and Human rights didn’t matter to TNA then. For other fellow travelers like Hoole it is pointless to talk about war crimes by LTTE because LTTE leadership is dead. However theoreticians/financiers of LTTE are not. Deceit.

    Saving civilians held hostage by LTTE did not matter to Tamils in 2009. What mattered was saving LTTE. DBS Jeyaraj states “The “Maaveerar Naal” was an intensely conducted partisan event of the Tigers, for the Tigers and by the Tigers”. UNHRC project, is an invention by LTTE supporters, for LTTE supporters. War ended with the death of Prabakaran. With the passing away of this generation of politicians and LTTE remnants this vendetta will finally end and there will be peace.

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    “This country consists of different peoples who each have their own right in International Law; violation of International law is not a domestic matter. You can’t hide behind the cloak of sovereignty, state sovereignty. There’s nothing called state sovereignty today; sovereignty is to be enjoyed by the people. You can’t hide behind the concept of state sovereignty and violate international law and claim that it is a domestic matter.”
    I think that “There’s nothing called state sovereignty today” is a sweeping statement.
    The state loses its claim to such sovereignty when it fails to truly represent its people. (I guess that this is what Mr Sumanthiran intended.)
    There are states like Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua, and more recently Bolivia, that have effectively defended their sovereignty against a big power that seek to deny it to them. Why they succeed is because the state truly represents the interests of the masses.
    States like Iran and Syria succeed because they represent the wish of the people to stand up to an aggressive predator.
    *
    It is true that national oppression stands in the way of the state to assert its sovereignty; but it is not the sole obstacle.
    The foreign and economic policies adopted by the UNP government since 1977 has done irreparable damage which no government has been able to rectify.

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      Dear SJ

      “The foreign and economic policies adopted by the UNP government since 1977 has done irreparable damage which no government has been able to rectify”

      If it is regards to Economical planning of the UNP one may disagree fine……however the real demon that set out to stripe all that belongs to us the Sri Lankans is called the FP/TULF/TN/TRNA Mafia who won the separatism mandate at gun point in 1977 to destroy our Nation come what may??

      How could this man stand in the parliament and speak about sovereignty that his party striped from us all and made us all the toilet washers in the world whilst they have happy lived and married and made babies and send them to schools and live in Colombo and continue life of normalcy is sovereign perhaps??

      Perhaps FP/TULF/TNA could have explained their economic theory and planning and execution in the last 80 years?? would have been a productive contribution to a National discussion??

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        The TULF Elam – economic theory was to become a colony of the West with Governor General as Erick Solheim and all Tamils washing the toilets of their Colonial Masters.

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    We need more wise leaders like Sumanthiran in the parliament….

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      Clever but not wise

      Soma

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        soman

        “Clever but not wise”

        How about filling the parliament with Wimala Weerawansa’s family?

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      Then why this man stuck in a party going to the cleaners in the Hague soon?

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        Thiagarajah Venugopal

        “Then why this man stuck in a party going to the cleaners in the Hague soon?”

        It is too early to go to Hague, unless UN decides.

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          We should get together and make it happen since you believe in justice??

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    Yes, sovereignty is in the hands of people, not state.
    That is precisely the point.
    We the people reject the Indian involvement in toto in our mutual relationship though we are fully concious of the fact that India is a big military power.
    What is of paramount importance is dealings among the people than dealings between states.
    Sumathithan should carry that message to India.
    The message from PEOPLE of a state militarily insignificant.
    In the final push India should be concerned of the welfare of the majority of the Tamils who are presently living outside NE.
    Tamil political class always dependended on the handtwisting of Sri Lanka by India with the other hand carrying a gun.
    Again, that is possible between states not between people.
    As I always say:
    There is no way, ABSOLUTELY NO WAY, of punishing the Sinhalese without Tamils facing a deadlier reaction.
    Economic sanctions will ensure that Tamils will go hungry first and even if you drop an atom bomb on Colombo more Tamils will die than Sinhalese.
    Mr Sumathithan should carry that message to India along with the reminder that Sri Lanka is an island and a map of demographic distribution of Tamil and Sinhala speaking peoples in that island.

    Soma

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      Soma,
      You quack with no understanding of how you let the cat out.
      – ‘Economic sanctions will ensure that Tamils will go hungry first’.
      How you arrived at that. Is it from the manner in which you have been treating Tamils all along.

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        Nathan
        Can you tell me why whenever I propose that any Tamil Homeland should accomodate ALL Tamils scattered across the island Tamil commenters on CT go mad at me?
        .
        Why at the end of the war not a single Tamil family moved from Wellawata or any other Snhala majority àrea moved to jaffna añd during your Mahaweer you are commemorating today was ruling Jaffna the only ambition of a Tamil mother was to send her children to south?
        .
        And why when arrangements were made for the estate Tamils to relocate themselves to India so that then can live as equal citizens among their own kith and kin in an environment of their own language, religion and culture they protested and demanded to continue that pathetic life in Sri Lanka. To this day they are happy here than going back to super power India.
        .
        All this has led me to conclude that +50% Tamils presently living outside NE in Sinhala majority provinces consider Sinhala Buddhist society is superior to their own despite all propaganda of discrimination, even genocide.

        Soma

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          Soma,
          Since you asked, there are still 150000 SL citizens in India who don’t want to come back to paradise. Even with free toilets.
          In case you didn’t know, conditions have changed for the better since the 60’s.
          “The daily wage of Assam plantation workers is around 145 Indian rupees ($US2). More than one third are employed on a casual basis. The daily wage of a Kerala worker is around 312 rupees.”. OK , they grumble, and in theory that is less than SL wages. But even 312 rupees goes a long way when sugar and flour cost only 20 . Those who want can get a used scooter for 5000.

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            Soma,
            “whenever I propose that any Tamil Homeland should accomodate ALL Tamils scattered across the island Tamil commenters on CT go mad at me”
            I am not a Tamil nor am I mad at you, but I think you need education on some economic points.
            MOST of the exportable products of SL are produced by Tamils and Muslims. Check the ownership of the biggest garment companies like MAS, Brandix, and Hirdaramanis. The Sinhalese produce very little for export.
            If your suggestion is accepted, and all these companies move North, there will be mass unemployment in the South, leading to Sinhalese seeking jobs in booming Eelam. Be careful what you wish for, Soma. 🤪🤪

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              old codger

              “If your suggestion is accepted, and all these companies move North, there will be mass unemployment in the South, leading to Sinhalese seeking jobs in booming Eelam.”

              There are also other issues related to relocation of Tamils and Muslims to Northern Eelam:

              What do you do when soman loses Tax Revenues, how would you feed 400,000 + 70,000 lazy bums?
              Soman and his lazy fellow rioters will not have enough targets to burn down, rob, …. rape, …. blame, …

              By the way who decided when Kamal, Svendra, Gota ….. visited rest of the island they should be afforded RED CARPET welcome. Don’t you think its an insult to the visitor?

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                NV
                My unreserved grattitude for the generousity of Tamils who wish to remain in Sinhala majority areas for the benefit of the Sinhalese (even at the risk of rob, burn down, rape, genocide …!).
                All the responses to my comment attempt to avoid my question why +50% of Tamils prefer to live outside North East CONFIRMING my oft repeated statement:
                Nothing terrifies a Tamil than the thought of living in a Tamil only enclave.

                Soma
                (Sampanthan aiya has decided to pass his remaining days in Colombo)

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                Native,
                I don’t want to appear racist, but each community is good at some things that another is hopeless at.
                Everybody is agreed that pre-1948, there were no DIG’s in jail for murder, trains were clean and ran on time, doctors didn’t go on strike, there were no unemployed grads….. Anybody can see the reason.

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              Old codger
              “Be careful what you wish for, Soma. 🤪🤪”
              Thank you for your advice.
              And for the generousity of Tamils who wish to remain in Sinhala majority areas for the benefit of the Sinhalese (even at the risk of genocide!).
              All the responses to my comment attempt to avoid my question why +50% of Tamils prefer to live outside North East CONFIRMING my oft repeated statement:
              Nothing terrifies a Tamil than the thought of living in a Tamil only enclave.
              .
              Dear old codger, allow me to clarify ‘what I wish for’. I have repeated this million times on this column:
              /In respect of a political solution Tamils have two options.
              A SEPARATE Homeland for ALL Tamils scattered across the island
              ‘OR’ the right to live anywhere.
              I BEG OF THEM TO CHOOSE THE LATTER OPTION./

              Soma

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                Soma,
                “And for the generousity of Tamils who wish to remain in Sinhala majority areas for the benefit of the Sinhalese”
                Generosity has nothing to do with it. It is simply easier to live or do business in Colombo. Also much safer, because even Shavendra Silva would prefer to have humanitarian operations in Mullaitivu instead of Wellawatta. If the minorities moved, it would take time to build the same level of infrastructure, which incidentally was built mostly with money earned from their efforts. Tamils/Muslims are very practical, you see. Do you see them throwing holy water into rivers?

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                  Old codger.
                  This Tamil preference to live outside NE makes me feel proud.

                  Soma

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                    Soma,
                    I suppose you have heard the latest; a Tamil lady has been appointed Governor of Anguilla. You have to admit that they rise to the top in any environment. So , thriving in our South is nothing.
                    If we want this country to progress, it must be run by the competent, not people who remember 2500 year old fairytales and nothing else.

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        Nathan,

        I don’t think the West will impose economic sanctions on Sri Lanka because it will pave the way for China to be more assertive in Sri Lanka and the Indian Ocean region.

        Anyway big brother India has to give the nod to the West before the West proceeds to impose economic sanctions on Sri Lanka.

        This is a cat and mouse game best thing is for Sri Lankans to try and understand each other and coexist peacefully without letting other countries to play politics with the little island in the middle of the Indian Ocean.

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          Whimpy Kid,
          Now that you have brought it up, tell me what have Tamils got to do to coexist with the Sinhalese.
          Don’t drag my name into your own theories. Stop being a real kid!

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          Whimpy Kid

          “I don’t think the West will impose economic sanctions on Sri Lanka because it will pave the way for China to be more assertive in Sri Lanka and the Indian Ocean region.”

          When every Sinhala/Buddhist dimwit including Uthaya Ganapathipillai, Gota, Wimal, Shavendra, Kamal, Sarath Weerasekere, Dhinesh, ………… Champika, soman, 70,000 strong saffron brigade, 400,000 lazy bums … think they are the masters of Sri Lanka how can China become assertive in Sri Lanka and the Indian Ocean region?

          Further Gota also believes Buddha’s Sacred Tooth Relic protected Nation right throughout .

          China must be dreaming.

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      soman

      “We the people reject the Indian involvement in toto in our mutual relationship though we are fully concious of the fact that India is a big military power.”

      For Kamal, Shavendra, Gota and their fellow 15,000 generals who won the mighty lethal LTTE, taking on Hindia, USA, EU, …………………together or separately is nothing, its like eating ice cream. These countries are really scared of Sri Lanka.

      I just want to remind you the flying chapati flour sacks and hiding Sri Lankan armed forces mostly behind their women folks. Was Shavendra hiding inside Premadasa’s amude?

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    Summathiran is wrong here. There is a thing called state sovereignty. SL decides between India and China, war crimes investigations or not, devolution or not, what protocols of war crimes SL will abstain from and what it will disregard, who goes/stays in prison and who does not, etc.

    Sorry guys. This is the truth and you know it.

    Similarly if/when Tamil Elam is created it too will enjoy state sovereignty. No one can deny it.

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    Dear Soma

    I do not connect a Mafia (FP/TULF/TNA) to citizens of Sri Lanka who are Tamil speaking. They are not related.

    It is related because and only because everyone has “conveniently” allowed it to assume a roll play of being the leaders for Tamil Community??? In a democracy there is no leadership but serving Members of Parliament from democratic National parties period.

    This notion there are self assigned community leaders have you killed if do not listen to them and and a GOSL will not “eliminate” such thugs have resulted in this lowlifes abusing “children” to create all armed groups the first place?? same applies to all the religious and language groups?

    Now with the lessons learned GOSL should eradicate/eliminate any ghetto makers who reference language and religion to give their political parties a name and manifesto stating what they are focused on delivering to those people can not exist??? a National Security act is a must and ban on any referencing to Sinhala/Tamil/Muslim/Buddisham/Christian/Hindu++ in politics of Srilanks should be a past.

    It is also the responsibility of responsible people like your good self to stand upto any racist amongst your groupings just as my Father and his likes have done is critical to walking the talk for a real Democratic Republic of Sri Lanka where we are all equals.

    TNA/LTTE do not speak for Tamils as we are all individuals….just as JVP speaks for the Nation with National policies?? so is all other mainstream parties be it right/left and liberal political leniency etc.

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      The only leadership we have for the entire Nation off People is our elected Head of States Excellency President and Hon Prime Minister and his/her Cabinet who get selected from the elected Hon MP’s to serve all mother Lankan subjects without prejudice.

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        Only security force we have is our armed forces for the Nation where there will be a compulsory military service will be implemented soon.

        We will be having a strongest Coast Guard the world has ever seen for Marine/Coastal protection for the Nation and her Environmental protection too.

        India is for Indians/China is for Chinese/Malaysia for Malaysians/Singapore for Singaporeans/ Sri Lanka for Sri Lankans and should anyone feel outsider as a citizen should leave Sei Lanka period.

        However we should work to create the most effective SAARC (South Asians Association for Regional Corporation) to and have common defence spending should allow us to invest in empowering our citizens of Indian Continent. We have 2 nuclear powers and this should be put to good use and save money on all other waste of money on Armes. Every penny should goto environmental sustainability/resorce management/population control and land management etc.

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          Thiagarajah Venugopal

          “Only security force we have is our armed forces for the Nation where there will be a compulsory military service will be implemented soon.”

          What are you going to do with unwanted conscripted trained potential killers, rapists, bandits, land-grabbers, rednecks, …… ?

          Whom are you going to fight, your own people?

          Will your armed forces be ready and willing to fight Hindians, Chinese, Uncle Sam, Europeans, ……? When Hindians sent their Mirage 2000 in 1987 where were these loud mouth Gota, Shavendra and Kamal?

          You do not need armed forces if you you treat your people well. This state with its ideology based on myth, chauvinistic, and fascistic believes cannot treat its people
          well as we have witnessed in the past 72 years, hence state needs constant conflicts in order to sustain itself, in other words it needs enemies inside and outside on a 24/7/52 basis.

          Please read carefully
          Excerpt from Constitution of Japan:
          We, the Japanese people, desire peace for all time and are deeply conscious of the high ideals controlling human relationship, and we have determined to preserve our security and existence, trusting in the justice and faith of the peace-loving peoples of the world.

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            Dear NV

            Spot and is a very logical argument indeed.

            Since my observation for the past 2+ years following your comments realise you know very little about my country. You have been told pokies since birth overseas by your mama and Dady etc.

            I was born and brought top in Jaffna and personally know of all that happened. This is the reason I started writing here as sharing truth is very important.

            Fell free to ask will help you as much as possible…..I am here for you all the time…..well until someone come to kill me too I guess.

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        Thiagarajah Venugopal

        The president, Prime Minister, Cabinet, …… were elected only by 42/43% of the eligible electors. Gota stated he is a Sinhala/Buddhist president of a Sinhala/Buddhist country.
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        Any dumb ass knows the fact not the president.

        Only a minority section of the eligible voters elected the president who undemocratically making various claim about the country, people, office of the president, state, electors, …………………….and those who voted for him or the government.

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          NV

          All the above what you said is true. It is an inevitable position for any politicians after a miserable war like we just had for 40 years.

          To change that we need to remove the ghetto politics from the land is the argument from me anyway….can not speak foremothers.

          We all need to loose the “pride” part and think of the Nation for a while for that paradigm change to take place……be patient.

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    Nathan,

    I don’t think the West will impose economic sanctions on Sri Lanka because it will pave the way for China to be more assertive in Sri Lanka and the Indian Ocean region.

    Anyway big brother India has to give the nod to the West before the West proceeds to impose economic sanctions on Sri Lanka.

    This is a cat and mouse game best thing is for Sri Lankans to try and understand each other and coexist peacefully without letting other countries to play politics with the little island in the middle of the Indian Ocean.

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      Whimpy Kid,
      Tell me why you are addressing your nuggets of wisdom to me; I’ll show you what an imbecile you are.

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    During October Light Festival, (Deepavali) Old King celebrated that Hindu festival in Temple Tree House. For the November Light Festival (Vizhakeedu), Rapist Army entered in Northern homes and beaten up house members and broke the lights. Because for Rapist Army, any good day for North East, in November, is only Maveerer Naal. What a satirical drama of the Royal Members.

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    International laws are for international matters. Within Sri Lanka’s boarders, Sri Lankan law is the supreme and GOSL is not accountable to any foreigner but to the native people it’s been elected.

    Some patriot must make a counter speech and remind TNA member that his speech is treasonous and Sri Lanka is not a colony, but a sovereign state.

    13th amendment and Indo-Lanka accord are illegal because they were signed under duress.

    Notorious paripu/dhal drop by India, violating Sri Lanka air space, scared the elderly president JRJ life out of him. And whole world saw brave naval officer disapproved Rajiv with a whack, which made them realise that India playing foul.

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    “Honouring the dead, remembering the dead is even in our culture a solemn affair, to be chasing after people … ”
    Tamils have a real problem distinguishing between honouring the dead, and honouring and celebrating terrorism. If someone died in June of 1985, why celebrate it on 26th November? These acts of so-called remembering the dead, are acts of malice and hatred towards the Sinhalese, and celebrating and justifying violence and suicide terrorism; they have nothing to do with remembering the dead.

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    “This country consists of different peoples who each have their own right in International Law.”
    What are these rights? Breaking up this country into pieces? Now the Plantation Tamils too claim that they are not Indian Tamils, but are from the upcountry, and that they have the right to self-determination and autonomy and want to establish atleast a Tamil federal state, where the language of administration is demanded to be made Tamil, in what they call a non-contiguous area encompassing large parts of the Central, Uva and Sabaragamuwa provinces (districts of Nuwara Eliya, Kandy, Badulla, Ratnapura etc.)! This is the same way the non-plantation Tamils, i.e. the Tamils occupying northern and eastern provinces, started their claims – first by rejecting that they are a recent diaspora of Tamilnadu, and then by fabricating bogus historical claims. Its only a matter of time before the Muslims too will want a separate state. The question is, where will all these claims end? What about the rights of the Sinhalese? Don’t the Sinhalese have any rights at all? We are just supposed to sit and watch this drama of self-determination and hand over large parts of our island to these different Tamil groups?

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    I make a claim for Separate Karainagar and the SL navy will back me up on this one am sure. Anyone else want to hire the landscape for military ventures we will consider leasing some of the land as I will be busy washing Toilets elsewhere most of the time. Nuclear weapons be ok as the neighbours already have this and no objection.

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