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How Do You Expect Tamils To March Together With Other Communities?

By C.V. Wigneswaran

Justice C.V. Wigneswaran

Someone asked me: What prevents the People of North and East of Sri Lanka from marching together with the other communities when the Upcountry Tamils and the Muslims are able to do so?

This was my response: A good question. We must remember certain external characteristics of the various communities in Sri Lanka. The Muslims have no doubt been in this country for considerable number of centuries but they have integrated with the Sinhalese and Tamils within the Island. Some are Sinhala speaking Muslims and some are Tamil speaking Muslims. The Tamil speaking Muslims are mostly resident in the Eastern Province and in certain areas in the Northern Province. They speak Tamil and therefore form part of the North and East. Their future is intertwined with the Tamils of the Northern and Eastern provinces.

The Upcountry Tamils have come to Sri Lanka within the last 200 odd years and they occupy areas outside the North and East. They have had no compunction in learning Sinhala and integrating with the Sinhalese. So too the Colombo Tamils. 

But the Northern and Eastern Tamils are different. They have always occupied the area now roughly covered by the Northern and Eastern Provinces. There had been continuous occupation of the North and East throughout history by the Tamil speaking people. In fact their occupation extended up to Negombo in the Western Province and up to Kathirgamam in the South East. The Sinhalese have never occupied the North and East in large numbers except after 1833 when the country was bought under one administration by the British. It is true that there had been influx of Tamils during different eras first by the Pandians and there after the Cholas, Pallavas, Cheras and Nayaka Kings last. But that only meant they added to the number of indigenous Tamils of this Country. The Tamils were the original inhabitants of this Island. 

They could trace their ancestry to the inhabitants of the Continent of Lemuria which covered the greater part of the present Indian Ocean in times gone by. The Lemuria Continent which was gobbled up by the Indian Ocean extended from Western Australia to Eastern Africa joining up with the Indian subcontinent. Therefore the present Tamils of the North and East feel themselves to be the descendants of a long line of Tamil speaking people who have been occupying the Northern and Eastern regions continuously from pre Buddhistic times. Recently it has been accepted that Tamil is the oldest living language in the world.   

On the other hand Sinhalese came by their Sinhala language only in the 6th or 7th Century AD. That is 1300 or 1400 years ago only. There was no Sinhala Language before that time. Some historians have painted all ancient Buddhists as Sinhalese. That is because since there was Buddhism in Sri Lanka before the Sinhala language came into existence they have identified earlier era Buddhists as Sinhala Buddhists. Those who were Buddhists at that time were Tamils whom Professor Sunil Ariaratne calls as Demala Bauddayo. 

There are those who refer to Sinhala Prakrit as proof of the presence of the Sinhalese language from pre Buddhistic times. This is like saying my grandfather lived 100 years ago therefore I lived 100 years ago because I came from my grandfather! There was no Sinhala language until 1300 or 1400 years from now. So how could you refer to Sinhala Prakrit of a by- gone age 2000 years or more ago? The Sinhala language was not even contemplated at that time. The truth would be that those words of ancient times (Prakrit) may have been Pali or Tamil or other dialects in Sri Lanka which later came to make up the Sinhala Language. Sinhala is a conglomeration of languages.

At least 40% of the Sinhala words are Tamil. Its alphabet formation is similar to Tamil and South Indian Languages. To my knowledge lots of Hindi words were imported into Sinhala language as recent as in 1956-1965 when Professor Malalasekara was Ceylonese High Commissioner in India. He brought in lots of Hindi words into the Sinhala Language thus “Sinhalacising” the Hindi words. Lots of legal terms in Sinhala for example are derived from the Hindi words used in North Indian courts. We have a habit of taking over something today and trace its origin to sources centuries ago and saying that that something existed so many centuries ago. Lots of names of Tamil Villages in the North and East were found appropriate Sinhala names during the past 70 odd years and we have transported those Sinhala equivalents to centuries earlier to say those Sinhala villages existed at that time! Kandarodai for example was Kandarodai always at least for centuries. The Sinhala word for it Kadurugoda was coined very recently. Now it is said Kadurugoda was the original place name! Kandarodai Buddhist remains are Tamil Buddhist remains. There were no Sinhalese at that time contemplated even!

The Northern and Eastern Provinces have never been Sinhala. They were areas of residence of the Tamil speaking people. Tamils were Buddhists for quite some time until they reverted to their original religion Saivaism when the Bakthi cult in South India influenced them. The Nayanmars have sung hymns to the deities in Thirukoneswaram and Thiruketheswaram before the Sinhala language was born. Further our Tamil literature of 2000 years ago were Buddhistic or Jain religion oriented. There was no Sinhala language then. 

It is wrong to say Sri Lanka is a Buddhist Country. The Tamils who became Buddhist centuries ago jettisoned Buddhism and reverted to Saivaism Tamils at one time being Buddhist and that too long before the Sinhala Language was born, does not give the right to anyone to claim that Sri Lanka is a Buddhist Country. The North and East must be separated as being majority non – Buddhist.

The Sinhala people have been given a wrong understanding of history based on the fiction written in Pali by a Buddhist Priest in the 5th Century AD. The author says that at the end of every stanza he was writing the fiction for the glorification of Buddhism. If he was writing history he would not have said so!

Now let me answer your question. The North Eastern Tamil speaking people are conscious of their antiquity. They are conscious of the richness of their language. They have a highly emotional bond towards their traditional homelands. But they feel constrained that the majority Sinhalese are not allowing them to blossom out on their own in their region but want to control them. There are certain rights which the Tamils have. In terms of the International Covenants they have their common language, they have their religions – Islam, Christianity and Hinduism, they have their traditional homelands where their forefathers have lived continuously from pre Buddhistic times. They also have their separate culture and way of life all different from the Sinhalese though there are many commonalities between the two communities due to their common origin as per DNA tests concluded recently.  

They would therefore like to preserve their individuality. They are entitled to self determination in terms of International Law. Owing to the above said they abhor anyone trying to control them and dominate them on false premises. The Tamil speaking have always occupied the North and East and they still are the majority in the North and East.  

The Sinhalese historians and others, especially the Buddhist clergy, have set up lots of falsities as history.

They say this country is theirs. This is false. The original inhabitants of this country were Saivite Tamils.

They say all Tamils were immigrants into a predominantly Sinhala Country. This is also false. Though it is true there were several influxes of Tamils at various times in history the existence of the Tamils in the North and East of this Island continuously as the majority community until today cannot be disputed.  

They say the North and East were originally Sinhalese. This is also false. Simply because Buddhism existed in the North and East and there are Buddhist historical / archaeological remains in the North and East that does not prove the existence of the Sinhalese at some period in our past history. It only proves there were Tamil Buddhists – Demala Buddhayo!

They refer to Mahavamsa. Mahavansa is a fictional work written in Pali before the Sinhala language was born. It is not a historical document though its background particulars could help understand history. 

Therefore we Tamils of the North and East are conscious of our antiquity, our history, our rights to self determination and therefore until our intrinsic rights to the right of self determination is recognized and respected we would find it difficult to march together with the other communities, specially the Sinhalese who have usurped our history and antiquity and trying to falsify those fields of study. If the historical facts just mentioned by me here are not accepted by the Sinhalese intelligentsia they are free to set up a Committee of Sinhala, Tamil, Indian and other International Historians and Archaeologists to re-write our history truthfully and affirmatively. 

Muslims and Upcountry Tamils have no such common historical background to stand on. They have not lost anything as we are losing our lands, our language (still the Central Government often sends letters in Sinhala only to the North and East), our religions, our culture and our identity. Until they are restored to the Northern and Eastern Tamils how do you expect us to march together with others?

First recognise our individuality and our history. Then we will march hand in hand. When I was young prior to Independence we Sinhalese, Tamils, Burghers, Muslims, Malays and even Chinese were able to look upon this Country as our own. When the Sinhalese claimed this Country as Sinhala Buddhist only, our individuality collapsed, and we have been made fourth class citizens! The Muslims and the Upcountry Tamils enjoy a freedom which the Northern and Eastern Tamils do not enjoy today.

*Justice C.V. Wigneswaran, Former Chief Minister, Northern Province and Secretary General Tamizh Makkal Kootanii

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    This is how Sinhala language evolved.

    Sinhala Prakrit (Elu/ Hela/ Helu – middle Indu Aryan language) until 3rd CE.

    Proto Sinhala 3rd – 7th CE

    Medieval Sinhala 7th – 12thCE

    Modern Sinhala 12thCE – present

    This is how J Haafner a Dutch who escaped from a prison in India (when Dutch ruling parts of India) came to Sri Lanka & wrote a book called “Travels on foot through the Island of Ceylon” identified some similarity in Hindi & Sinhala.
    English Sinhala Hindi
    rice haal chool
    boiled rice bath baath
    village gam gram
    tree gaha ghaash
    chilli miris miris
    one eka ek
    three thuna thin
    leaf path(pathra) paath

    This is well before Malalasekara was born.

    Language similar to Sinhalese is Maldive language not Tamil.

    Almost all Europeans who came to SL in the past, named Tamils as Malabaris, Indians or foreigners.

    A book written in the Kandiyan period named “nampotha” mention about Kadurugoda Vihara now Tamilized as Kandarodei

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      Hello Latha the SInhalese racist. The Europeans mistook Tamils for Malabaris as the people of Malabar and Sri Lankan Tamils are very similar and , when the Portuguese and the Dutch arrived and even up to around 1815 , the vast majority of the population of Kerala , around 85% ,were still speaking a Tamil dialect known as Malayalama or Malabar Tamil , which was written in the Tamil script. The British banned this language as the behest of the their Namboothiris and Nair, Menon supporters and made the highly Sanskritised dialect of the Nmaboothiri Brahmins m witten in the Tulu based Tilgari scrit as the official language of Kerala, This language until then was called Grantha Bhasha, These people and the British cunningly changed the name of this language to Malayalam , the name of local Tamil dialect and then is a sop to the Tamil masses introduced thousands of Tamil words into this dialect. Many of these Menons and Nairs were responsible for the Eelam Tamil genocide and war crimes in 2009. The Europeans called the Sinhalese Siamese , so are you Siamese? The Sinhalese language gradually evolved from Tamil , Sanskrit and Pali and only came into existence around 7AD. This is what many reputable Sinhalese scholars state. Not Racists like Malalsekera. Tamil is the largest contributor to the evolution of the Sinhalese language , Not Pali or Sanskrit. Sinhalese is built on a firm Tamil Dravidian foundation on which a Indo Aryan super structure has been built. Stop posting lies.

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        Siva Sankaran Sharma,
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        Mr. C.V. Wigneswaran has lost his mind.

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          Kuveni’ s people did not speak Sinhala. Vijaya’s people did not speak Sinhala. But they understood each other. Pandyan brides spoke Tamil and they communicated with Vijaya’s people without a problem. Therefore all of them either spoke Tamil or some form of Tamil. This corroborates with the finding of linguists. Over 10,000 years ago Sri Lanka was a single land mass with Tamil Nadu, which is now proved by NASA and Indian Institute of Oceanography. This corroborates with Tamil folklore of an ancient Tamil homeland of Kumarikandam. Archaeological findings of urn burial sites in north and north-western parts of the island (last one at Ibbankatuwa near Kurunegala) suggests that ancient settlers were Dravidians. Potsherds found in northern parts of the country (Last one at Mallavi near Mankkulam) similar to those found in Tamil Nadu, proves that it was one and the same people who lived on both sides of the divide. Recent discovery of ancient civilization (over 10,000 years) at Settikulam and near Giants tank, both in Mannar district proves the belief that an ancient civilization existed around Mantai port. When later immigrants subdued the local chieftains and set up the Anuradhapura kingdom, they destroyed the existing civilization. All these prove that ancestors of present day Tamils lived in these areas before the advent of Sinhala ethnic group.
          (CONTD)

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            (CONTD) First religion to be practiced in Sri Lanka was Saivaism. Father of Devanampiya Tissa the first person to be converted to Buddhism was Mootta Siva which shows that he was a Saivite. Veddhas the original people of the land worshiped Murugan and not Buddha which shows that they were under the influence of Tamils as the only ethnic group in the world who worship Murugan are Tamils. Therefore the correct position on Sri Lanka is that it is a Buddhist majority country which was once a Hindu country. This is the position taken by BJP based on scientific proof. Some of the people living in Sri Lanka are still continuing to practice Saivaism the religion of their ancestors.Therefore to claim entire Sri Lanka as a Buddhist country amounts to racism. Genetic studies have proved that Sinhalese are descendants of Tamils who over a period of time have evolved into another ethnic group, similar to Malayalees. Sinhala language has borrowed words from Sanskrit, Pali and Tamil, Sinhala script is copied from Malayalam and Sinhala grammar is adapted from Tamil. With scientific proof emerging contrary to claim by Sinhalese, they are being exposed as liars.

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              SSS

              Muta Siva’s father King Pandukabaya built Shrines to two Yakkas one is Kalawela & one Yakkini Valawamuki.

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                Pandukabaya means one who is in the haven of Pandyas. Those shrines were Hindu ones as Buddhism had not reached Sri Lanka at that time. They are now Buddhist ones shows that several Buddhist shrines were built over demolished Hindu shrines at the time of introduction of Buddhism to Sri Lanka. Abayagiri Dagaba, Isurumuniya (Isuru refers to Siva), Thondeeswaram at Devinuwara, Lankatilleke, Embekke, Gadaladeniya and Nalanda Gedige are examples. There are several Hindu temples lying buried around Anuradhapura due to disuse. Will the government ever permit to bring the truth to light.

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                  Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam,

                  Then there is no problem no? Every one is Tamil in Sri Lanka. Tamils need no reason for ask for a seperate country. Let’s live like old days. You people convert to Buddhism and become Tamil Buddhists. Become Sinhalese. Share the common history. Take a pride of our forefathers. What say you?

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                    ShenalM

                    “Then there is no problem no? “

                    “You people convert to Buddhism and become Tamil Buddhists”

                    Good idea.
                    When are you going to convert to Buddhism, live like in the old days a Sinhalese, unlike now as nasty Sinhala/Buddhist and regrettably electing Sinhala/Buddhist fascist.

                    “Share the common history. Take a pride of our forefathers.”

                    You mean your common history is generally accepted as the South Indian history with some variant. Of course you should be proud of your Mercenary forefathers who arrived here from Erivirar Pattinam.

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          He has not lost his mind most probably you. He is a very educated man . From a renowned Jaffna Tamil Hindu family. A high court judge fluent in English , Tamil and Sinhalese . Your name Pasqual suggests that you have Thootokudi Paravan origin from southern Tamil Nadu now taken over a Sinhalese identity and beating the anti Tamil drum. I have seen many of these Sinhalised Thootokudi Paravans in Australia beating the anti Tamil drum. Arrived claiming to be Tamil , after establishing themselves anti Tamils.

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        Siva Sankaran Sharma,

        Only thing CVW couldn’t say was that Tamil language was invented by Jaffna Tamils, later TN stole that. Come on guys, please show even a fraction of respect that you have on a language to your TN brothers & sisters. You always insult those highly talented,
        and brainiest people among other Indians for your agendas.

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        Only heaps of words…but nothing is shown as proof.
        No archilogical evidence such ad rock inscriptions, books etc.

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      Sinhala language is a hybrid language like Human and lion hybridization.

      The Word Sinhala is not a Sinhala word. It is Indian word.

      Sinhala language is most corrupted language.

      eka -> ek
      Thrya -> thin
      pathra -> paath

      No equivalent pure Sinhala words in Sinhala language. All of them are of Indian origin.

      Nothing Special.

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        Telugu Eelam

        This is negligible compare to Sri Lankan Tamils who have borrowed a whole language, religion, costumes, arts, music, dancing, cinema, food, culture & so many other things from India,

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          Tamil culture and language is the same , whether it is in India or in Eelam , they do not have to borrow , it is their language and culture. India and Ceylon are creations of the British empire, Tamil kingdoms and people spanning both sides of the sea were there thousands of years before this. It is Sinhalese have borrowed everything from the Tamils and then go around touting to the world that is your own special culture.

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            Rohan

            Not only Indian & Sri Lankan Tamils, South African Tamils, Malaysian, Singapore, Canadian, USA, UK, Fiji, Australian Tamils practice same language & culture.

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          latha from Lala Land

          Please tell us where did you borrow your DNA, language, religion, Drama, Music, stupidity, ………….. art, architecture, technology, food, fashion, festivals, new year, astrology, cinema (S. M. Nayagam, R. Muttusamy Master and M. K. Rocksami) kings and yuvraj, Kataragama Deiyo, Historian (Mahanama)… …. perhaps from Portuguese, Dutch, Brits, China, …. or USA?

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            latha from Lala Land

            FYI
            The First Sinhala film Kadawunu Poronduwa
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=57&v=-DCLqt_YCNY&feature=emb_logo

            Look carefully all the names in in credits in the first few minutes.

            Rather than wasting your time in heritage competition spend some time learning about it. You do not have to prove yourself at best an ignorant at worst a moron. Grow up.

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      It is Kantharodai and the inscriptions found there are all in Tamil Brahmi . Many of these stupas belong to the Mahayana form of Buddhism too. Ancient Tamil Buddhists belonged to the Theravada and Mahayana sects , whereas the Sinhalese only belong to ethe Theravada sect. Kanduru goda? what the hell is that. Kanda is from Tamil Kandar and the Sinhalese word for mound Goda is derived from the Tamil word for mound or small hill Khoad or Khoadu. Like Kasargod in Kerala. Mad creature before posting get your facts correct. You are still using two Tamil words and giving them a Sinhalese twist and calling them ancient Sinhalese names. Just like when Tamil Manal Aru ( sandy river) was ethnically cleansed and renamed Weli Oya In Sinhalese ( Sandy River again) . Little did these Sinhalese extremists and the Sri Lankan government realise these two words Weli and Oya are purely derived from Tamil. Weli ( sand or Sandy ) comes from Tamil Veli meaning sandy open space, Oya meaning river or rivulet is derived from the Tamil word Oyaval or Odai meaning River or rivulet. Take all the Tamil derived words from Sinhalese and there will be no Sinhalese language , just Sanskrit and Pali. This also not what I state.

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        Olu & Oya are coming from Oodai. Small River or water fountain. Adjective Kanatha has many meaning in Tamil. Fragrance, Mountain and of cause the lord Muruga related. Lord Karththikeyan is Kurinji Theivam, out of the five gods Krishna, Varna, Indira and Kali. He is the god lives on Mountain & in Kurunji. His all 6 (TN) dwellings have mountain connection. Kanthaiya mean the master or the lord of Kurinchi, the Mountain Land.
        (Lands: Kuṟunji, Mullai, Marutham, Neithal, Pālai -Gods respectively-Seyyon, Maayon, Senon, Kadalon, Korravai)- Please refer Wikipedia for explanations & details. Further, when Tamil gods Sanskritsed, The spelling becomes Kurunji – but it is Krunchi

        So when you call some land as Kanthar Oodai where there is no mountain or fragrance of forests, it is a clear reference to Lord Muruga. It is in Kantharodai the only river in Jaffna Peninsula fountains. It has a village folk’s name Valukkai or Valuki Aaru.

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      Kandarodai (Tamil: கந்தரோடை, romanized: Kantarōṭai, Sinhala: කදුරුගොඩ, romanized: Kadurugoḍa, also known as Tamil: கதிரமலை, romanized: Katiramalai) is a small hamlet and archaeological site of Chunnakam town, a suburb in Jaffna District, Sri Lanka.
      Known as Kadiramalai in the ancient period, the area served as a famous emporium city and capital of Tamil kingdoms in the Jaffna peninsula of North Eastern Ceylon from classical antiquity. The notable ancient Buddhist monastery referred as Kadurugoda Vihara is situated in Kandarodai
      Located near a world-famous port at that time, Kandarodai was the first site the Archaeology Department in Sri Lanka excavated in the Jaffna peninsular. ccording to Jaffna tradition was this place initially known as Kadiramalai According to C. Rasanayagam is the Sinhalese name Kadurugoḍa derived from Kadiragoda, which is according to him derived from Kadiramalai, substituting the Tamil suffix malai (meaning “mountain”) with the Sinhalese suffix goḍa. The prefix Kadira is the Tamil name for the Acacia chundra three. The modern Tamil name Kantarōṭai is believed to be re-derived from the Kadiragoda term.
      The earliest people of Jaffna were belonging to a megalithic culture akin to the South Indian megalithic culture. The period of Buddhism in the Jaffna Peninsula differ from the rest of the island, which is seen as an overlapping of the megalithic beliefs with Buddhism.[ According to scholars was Kantarodai, known in Tamil literature as Kadiramalai, the capital of the ancient Tamil kingdom ruled by Tamil speaking Naga kings from 7th century AD to 10th century AD ] The Yalpana Vaipava Malai also describes Kadiramalai as the seat of Ukkirasinghan who fell in love with a Chola princess in the ancient period] The ancient Kadurugoda Vihara buddhist monastery is situated at this site where a 10th century pillar inscription of Sinhalese language recording a regal proclamation of the bequest of gifts and benefits to a Buddhist place of warship was found.

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        Kadurugoḍa has no chance of becoming Kantharodai. Don’t count on English spelling. Count on Tamil Spelling. Kadurugoḍa can become Kathirkkoddai. You are quick to buy the misconceptions.

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        The black and red ware Kanterodai potsherd with Tamil Brahmi scripts from 300 BCE excavated with Roman coins, early Pandyan coins, early Chera Dynasty coins from the emporium Karur punch-marked with images of the Hindu Goddess Lakshmi from 500 BCE, punch-marked coins called Puranas from 6th-5th century BCE India, and copper kohl sticks similar to those used by the Egyptians found in Uchhapannai, Kandarodai indicate active transoceanic maritime trade between ancient Jaffna Tamils and other continental kingdoms in the prehistoric period The parallel third century BCE discoveries of Manthai, Anaikoddai and Vallipuram detail the arrival of a megalithic culture in Jaffna long before the Buddhist-Christian era and the emergence of rudimentary settlements that continued into early historic times marked by urbanization. Some scholars have identified Kourola mentioned by 2nd century AD Greek geographer Ptolemy and Kamara mentioned by the 1st century AD Periplus of the Erythraean Sea as being Kadiramala
        The domes were reconstructed atop the flat bases of the ruins by the Archaeology Department. The similarities between the finds of ancient Jaffna and Tamil Nadu are indicators of a continuous cultural exchange between the two regions from classical antiquity. These structures built over burials demonstrate the integration of Buddhism with Megalithism, a hallmark of Tamil Buddhism. Outside Andhra Pradesh in India, Kanterodai is perhaps the only site where such burials are seen.

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          Rohan,
          https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Kadurugoda,+Sri+Lanka/Kathiramalai+Sivan+Kovil+Banquet+Hall,+Puttur+Rd,+Chunnakam,+Sri+Lanka/@9.7410421,80.0096406,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x3afe535652f2c09d:0xd75dc1109b1d598b!2m2!1d80.0065032!2d9.7463993!1m5!1m1!1s0x3afe54c7fe39c72f:0x1d9b8098fa182d53!2m2!1d80.031442!2d9.7441638
          We are talking about two things. 1) The history of Kantharodai. 2) The possibility of name Kantharodai (Kadurugoda) Viharai indicating any presence of Sinhala civilization there. The other problem is using the Language Tamil to trace evidence & then using artifacts to determine time. The artifacts are reliable, but don’t tell the story. Same time, Language tell the story, but mainly assumptions needed. Researchers include Mylvagana Pular’s writing. It was only a “put together of legends”. That is where the question arises of if ever Kantharodai had the name of Kathiramalai. Just look at map, above. You will see the Sivan Kovil of Kathiramalai & other building named as Kathiramalai is about two miles from Viharai. The Kantharodai Dynasty had their Palace somewhere near the Viharai. So it is unlikely the Kathiramalai and Kantharodai were being the one same place on that time. See even Nallur is only small spot. So Kantharodai Dynasty cannot have a 2 miles radius capital. So overloading the name Kathiramalai on name Kantharodai is only a misconception.
          If you look at the map further north The Church Miracle is Portuguese Period Church. If you expand the Map you will see a temple called Palayampatti Pillaiyar temple. This exited in Portuguese time and they started to demolish, but gave up. It is one of the rare temples stood through Europeans’ demolitions. About 4 miles North to Viharai, you have the Naguleswaram. You know that is one of the 5000 years old Pancha Iswarms. Look near to Vihara. There are so many temples, they were very old in history and some were rebuilt in British time. In Kantharodai, you will so many things are named as “ Kantharodai + “.

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        Rohan

        This type of stories are good for persons like CVW who have immature brains.

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      Latha from Lata Land Bengal

      “A book written in the Kandiyan period named “nampotha” mention about Kadurugoda Vihara now Tamilized as Kandarodei”

      Kandyan period (1476 – 1815) lasted only 339 years.
      Tell us when exactly this book was written/published and the authors name as well.

      So Elu is not a native language after all but an imported Prakrit variant.

      “Modern Sinhala 12thCE – present”

      This what many scholars, linguist, historians, … believe especially late Prof RALF Gunawardha’s thesis is all about.

      There are others such scholars as P B J Hewawasam, C E Godakumbura, W F Gunawardhana also believed Sinhala Language is indebted to Tamil as it has borrowed its grammar (Vira Choliam), vocabulary, and some literature to the latter.

      It does not make Sinhalese a lesser people whereas unfettered claim of ancientness does.

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        Vedda

        Name one language in the world which has developed without getting contribution from other languages? May be only Tamil.

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      Latha ,You got a point .

      They put a N or an I at the end and say it is Thamil…

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        KASmaalam K.A. Sumanasekera

        When did you master languages?
        By the way when are you going to first educate yourself and then your herd?

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    Thanks for writing this article.
    I once heard from a tamil man from jaffna who was conducting research into Sri Lankan history across the island. He has mastered the sinhala language to the point where he could speak sinhala with a perfect sinhala accent. This enabled him to make some stunning discoveries. He visited a buddhist vihara deep in the south, and the head monk took him to a certain spot inside the vihara premises and told him that the spot was originally a shiva temple and that there is a very ancient lingam hidden under the vihara.
    He eventually published his work annonymously and he was given death threats saying he would be ‘dealt with as a terrorist’ if his identity is revealed.
    This is not some outlandish claim as the whole world knows that hinduism existed long before buddhism. And Sri Lanka is right next to tamil nadu. So its the sinhala claim that ‘tamil hindus only first arrived in Sri Lanka with the chola invasions’ goes against common sense. But the entire sinhala identity is based on hatred and fear of tamil. But they are going to have to change their attitudes as the tides are shifting world wide slowly to favour tamil.
    The tamil language is gaining world wide popularity as being a possible parent language of the human race.
    Narendra Modi and the BJP themselves have made adjustments and recently Modi hailed tamil as the worlds oldest language which is on video. To me that marked a momentous shift.

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    Prior to 1505 when Portuguese came there were two kingdoms, one vanni, yal and kandyan for Tamils and kotte and ruhunu for Sinhalese, since the aliens were in srilanka and eventually when ghandi got independence for India British left with the divisive regime. Srilankan Tamils initially educated and then the affluent well to do have left. My self too at the age of 18 47 years ago. The fact that I am a Tamil and not that idiot thought I was silva, the final Tamils left in 1983 are the one bringing foreign currency and income,hence hope he understands what I meant. Need education. Now the Sinhalese who has to repay China over99 years with interest , and their own can’t and don’t understand economics. Need education and
    World knowledge how country is run. 99% wont understand what GDP is.

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    It is 21 st century and we need equal rights for human beings and prosperity for everyone, the country has to move on for the hardworking and tax paying citizens who don’t have to look over their shoulder is the first step. Not to decide the country to prior to 1505, it is the selfish parliamentarians and the nationalist are the problem, from my initial comment.

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    Mr Vigneswaran,
    Your explanation does not hold water in this day and age
    Transport facilities have improved and communication has improved.

    When you people migrate to western countries and integrate well do you say that you cannot speack and write in English?

    It is mandatory to have a reasonable working knowledge of English.

    This notion that Jaffna Tamils cannot integrate with Sinhalese and Sinhalese cannot intigrate with Tamils is a false hypothesis that is developed by Tamil politicians and enimies of the nation mostly wetern countries who are interested in having some sort of hold on developing countries like Sri Lanka
    Which ultimately serves no body else but themselves.

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    I was really interested to read his letter but factually there are so many scientific misunderstandings and misinformation in this.

    1) The Lemuria or Kumari Kandam hypothesis has been proven to be incorrect (this hypothesis was based on the fact that fossils of Madagascar and India are very similar hence it was hypothesized that they once must have been connected. However with the growth of scientific knowledge especially the discovery that even today continents are always shifting, it was discovered that initially all the world’s continents formed the super-continent Pangaea which replaced and disproved the Lemuria hypothesis.

    2) Tamils weren’t the first humans in Sri Lanka (in fact it was the Vaddha who were driven south from India by the Tamils into Sri Lanka

    3) Tamil has never been accepted by the greater linguistic or anthropology community as the oldest living language. In fact there are many other languages still alive that have archaeological proof to have been around earlier (just google to find more info)

    P.S. When discussing such information it is very natural for individuals who have previously accepted such information to in fact refuse to accept it as they see it as attacking their identity. In psychology it is known as Identity protective cognition. But if we are truly objective and follow the scientific method, you should be able to accept the provided information.

    There are many more errors but can’t be bothered to write them all.

    If anyone has any contradictory scientific information please reply so we can all learn.
    Cheers

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      You do not seem to be a person with scientific mind.
      1) There may not have been a continuous land mass encompassing India, Australia and Madagascar. But satellite images issued by NASA and studies by Indian institute of oceanography show underwater structures lying between Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka suggesting a continuity. Computer simulated images have drawn connection between western coast of India with Kalpitiya peninsula and eastern coast of India with Jaffna peninsula. With this linkage of land there is every possibility that the same people had lived on both sides of the divide.
      2) Tamils never claimed as the first immigrants to Sri Lanka. It is accepted that Veddhas were in the land for over 60,000 years. There is a possibility that Veddhas may have been pushed to the east and south-east parts, with Tamils occupying north and north-western parts. By the way Adhivasis of Tamil Nadu have genetic similarity to Veddhas of Sri Lanka, but there is no claim of them being pushed about. While some of the Veddhas are still continuing their tradition, Veddhas living in eastern coast have become Tamils, while those in hinterland have become Sinhalese.
      3) There is a difference between oldest living language and oldest written language. Tamil has been accepted as the oldest written language by wider linguist community, though there are detractors. There were older languages than Tamil but they have disappeared. Both Sumerian and Coptic Egyptian are older than Tamil but they were written in hieroglyphics. Tamil is older than all major living languages in the world at present. Please let us know of any Language that has been declared older than Tamil by your so called greater linguistic and anthropology community.
      NB: Are you aware of genetic similarity between Dravidians and Australian aborigines, and perhaps Papuans also.

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        ” Are you aware of genetic similarity between Dravidians and Australian aborigines”

        Australian Government is well aware that Sri Lankan Tamils saying that, so they are very reluctant to take Tamil refugees. Looking at the way their claim from Artic to Antartic all are Tamil who not got afraid.

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          latha from Lala Land

          “Australian Government is well aware that Sri Lankan Tamils saying that, so they are very reluctant to take Tamil refugees.”

          On the other hand Australia confirmed that about 6,000 Sinhalese from Sri Lanka had applied for asylum between 2010 and 2013.

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      Australian Scientist: Sri Lankan history books say, because of constant invasions by South Indians, People in the North Central Sri Lanka got used to live in the forests. They also became Vaddas. Even the Children, Kuveni, became Veddas in order to escape slaughter by south Indians. So, Sri Lankan Veddas have multiple origins.
      Buddhists believe that Maghadhi – laymen language of North India and the roots of both Sanskrit which is the Brahmin Language (relates to Hindi) and Pali which stayed the layman language (relates to Sinhala) as the oldest language and Almighty Buddha used mostly that language in presentations.

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      Australian Scientist:-
      Thank you for that Blast of Sanity!
      Humans are prone to Self-centredness and Love to feel that they are the Best in every way.
      Then they apply that concept to their Close and Distant Relatives, dividing themselves into Families and Castes, and then into Races and Religions!.
      Why cant we just be Humans of Various Colours and Beliefs?

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        We all know that you are very irrational, especially when it comes to Thamizh people and will praise a fellow anti Thamizh , such as the pretend Australian Scientist.

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      You are no Australian scientist but a Sinhalese. There are many older languages than Tamil but they were and are just dialects . Tamil is the oldest living rich developed classical language in the world and this is a fact. The others are older but just tribal dialects. If there is anything older it has died off . Tamil is even older than Sanskrit and this is a fact too. Yes the history of the Vedda in the island is older but after them came the Dravidian Tamils and they also arrived here during prehistoric times That the Vedda were worshipping Tamil gods proves they were highly influenced by Tamil. The Vedda language just like the native semi Tamil simple Dravidian language Elu were all very close to proper Tamil as seen by many words. Even old Sinhalese or Hela was very close to its Tamil mother in pronunciation than modern Sinhalese. The was a common land mass that linked Africa the Indian subcontinent and Australia that broke up and moved this is also a fact , Whether Tamils lived in this common land mass is a fact or fiction I do not know but there is a very strong tradition and history amongst Tamil people that has passed through each generation over thousands of years that their ancestors once lived in a huge land mass that was later broken up or submerged . This may be fact or myth but will not discount this , as this story is very strong amongst most Tamil people and has been passed through over thousands of years. You also read this fake Australian Scientist Sinhalese. If you google and read you will find that Tamil is the oldest living classical language in the world. Just comparing Tamil to ancient African and Australian Aboriginal dialects that have not developed into full blown languages with a rich history is bullshit.

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        Aboriginal were ancient Indian black Tamils – In their language- 1—Appa, 2— Amma, 3— Akka, 4— Athu, 5— Wali , 6— Kall wali, 7— mutu Wali, 8— NELLA, lot more words there, Next Australian Aboriginal, put three white lines, Jaffna Tamils also put, three white lines, why? Before do some good things, if you want know come western countries and study ( Deutsche/ English/ Franch/ Holländisch),
        Germany news(ARTE-) said , Australian Aboriginal was (30,000) Old people/ civilization. Then how old Tamil,
        1— Appa/ father-in 1000, Languages , you can see it, ( Aboriginal + Aramic + Sumerian + Ur civilization+ Hebrew + Aztec + Incas+ Mesopotamia + Mesoamerican+ Hittite + Kürdish+ Olmec + Korean + Japan ( Anni)+ Mongolen + Old Greek+ more civilization, ) calling for father as ( Appa),

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      Whether Tamils lived in this common land mass is a fact or fiction I do not know but there is a very strong tradition and history amongst Tamil people that has passed through each generation over thousands of years that their ancestors once lived in a huge land mass that was later broken up or submerged . This may be fact or myth but will not discount this , as this story is very strong amongst most Tamil people and has been passed through over thousands of years. You also read this fake Australian Scientist Sinhalese. If you google and read you will find that Tamil is the oldest living classical language in the world. Just comparing Tamil to ancient African and Australian Aboriginal dialects that have not developed into full blown languages with a rich history is bullshit. You will not dare do this with Latin classical Greek or Sanskrit. Is the full force of the west and India will come down on you but think can get away with posting your anti Tamil garbage

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      In his paper titled The Dravidian Element in Sinhalese, Bulletin of the School of Oriental and African Studies ,prominent Sri Lankan scholar Charles Godakumbure (1907-1977),has provided many a scientific facts to shed light on distorted interpretation of the history of Sri Lanka, advocated by the bastions of Sinhalese nationalistic hatred against the Tamil language. The hatred is in most part based on a myth of the mythical origin, mythical Aryanism and mythical sanctity of the Sinhalese race, Sinhalese Language, literature and culture. The Sinhalese nationalistic movement has been trying to hang on to any shred of unqualified commentary, fabrications to prove the purity of Sinhalese language and the Sinhalese race to make it as distant and alien as possible against the Tamil language and culture.

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        Siva Sankaran Sharma:-
        Just Substitute Dravidian for Aryan, and Tamil Language for Sinhala Language and Tamil Culture for Sinhala Culture, in your Comment, and it would be just as true!

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    This Lemuria , I thought is the real fiction which our ex CM Wella Wiggs is harping on..

    The big Glacier in New York City melted more than 10 000 years ago.
    This Lemuria must have disappeared long time before that.

    So these Thamil people must have been there for a long long time ,
    I mean in the North and the East if we are to believe Mr Wiggy.

    I know Balangoda Man left some bones in a cave around 40.000 years ago.
    That means Srilanka was not in Lemuria for sure.

    We also know that Mr Wiggy’s King Rama came to Srilanka with a Monkey Army.
    Surely they wouldn’t have had to use monkeys if they were that advanced in Lemuria.

    Anyway, Mr Wiggy has clearly dissociated his Political Group the TNA which is the Wellala Tamils Political Entity in Srilanka from the Muslim and the Estate Tamils.
    And TNA is the only Political Party in Lankawe which wants One Third of the Land Mass and Two Thirds of the Coast line under their control .
    And their own Police to control them.

    I think Estate Tamils had realised that for long time .
    That is why Thodamanny backed Nandasena and won handsomely..
    -.
    But the Muslims backed the wrong horse .
    Wonder whether they are going to back the wrong horse again.
    Or join hands with the Estate Tamils .

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      KASmaalam


      “The big Glacier in New York City melted more than 10 000 years ago.
      This Lemuria must have disappeared long time before that.”

      Then what happened?

      “I think Estate Tamils had realised that for long time.”

      What do you call yourself?
      Why do you call them Estate Tamils.
      What did you really mean?

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    Mr. Wigneswaran,

    The fact is:
    Sinhala / Sinhalese as it is exists ONLY in Sri Lanka…There was a language called Divehi as well in Maldives and replaced with Arabic.

    The fact is:
    That Sinhala people have done an enormous work in history to protect Buddhist doctrine from various Dravidian invasions. There are 70 million Tamils in Tamil Nadu..(Tamil Country:the English Translation)

    The fact is :

    We are not going ANY WHERE else in a hurry.

    The fact is :

    Veddah in Sri Lanka are different Sinhalese and Tamils they have differing genes to both…..If Sri Lanka was ALL Tamil then Veddah should be 90% Tamil DNA it is NOT so…Balangoda Man should be 100% Tamil…..Why did Tamils not exist in Large numbers in the interior of the country ??? Where there is plenty of water and resources compared to North and East and some North Western areas….If they were here for a long time they would have figured this out…..That is what normal indigenous people do…..Look across the world……Now you will say ALL veddah are Time…..Hahaha

    The fact is:

    The EVERY TIME someone try to argue this TAMILS an TAMIL supporters calls those people RACISTS. Sinhalese are called RACISTS because we say this is MY HOME.
    But when you say North and Eastern parts are your EXCLUSIVE HOMELAND this is called a HUMAN RIGHT….WHY is this difference TAMIL people…don’t have to answer this to me ANSWER to your self and your Great Tamil consciousness……

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      sinhala_noice

      “The fact is:
      That Sinhala people have done an enormous work in history to protect Buddhist doctrine from various Dravidian invasions.”

      How? When?, Where? evidence please.
      Was Maha a Dravidian?
      Now please explain or define Dravidian.

      “There are 70 million Tamils in Tamil Nadu..(Tamil Country:the English Translation)”

      You are one of their converted descendant therefore what are you doing this island?

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    S cientific facts related to the emergence and development of Sinhalese language prove that Sinhalese in fact should feel themselves indebted to Tamil Grammar for their language.
    Not only Sinhalese grammar the very base of Sinhalese language, but also most of the medieval Sinhalese epic ballads and works of literature are either derived directly or translated from Tamil. The Sinhalese authors of most of these Sinhala works were upfront in admitting the influence that Tamil works have had and in some of the cases the Sinhalese works were presented by the Sinhalese authors, with sense of gratitude, as direct translations of Tamil works. Tamil influenced not only the structure of the Sinhalese Language, but also its grammatical terminology. In the oldest existing Sinhalese grammar, the Sidatsangara (thirteenth century), which for the most part adopts the methods and phraseology of the Sanskrit grammarians, there are certain passages which clearly display the indebtedness to Tamil. The terms used for vowels and consonants in this work are panakuru and gatakuru, which are translated into sankritized Sinhalese as panaksara and gataksara. These two words are clearly translations of the uyir-eluttu of the Tamil grammarians. The terms panaksara and gataksara are not met with any of the well-known systems of Sanskrit grammar

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    The problems (sorry, challenges) for the Sri Lankan Tamils is that everyone is opinionated and because of lack of intellectual ability, cannot see the light at the end of the tunnel. Look at the how many parties they have for a mere 2.2 million people. Need to ask, WHY?
    The Tamil leadership should be in palliative care and absolutely tragic. One has to watch IBC to see how the people react when they are asked about local politics. The whole lot packed out, new visionary and young leadership should be sought. CV Wigneswaren and Sivajilingam and the rest must be cast out for good.

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    Now, the language of the original inhabitants of Ceylon, as far as can be traced from the “unknown formations” of declension and conjugation and the construction of sentences in Sinhalese, was without doubt, an ancient form of Dravidian. This we shall point out in sequel. James De Alwis had noted this long ago. In the introduction to his learned translation of the Sidat Sangara he wrote: “The Singhalese is unquestionably an Indian dialect; and looking merely to the geographical position of Ceylon, it is but natural to conclude that the Singhalese owe their origin to the inhabitants of Southern India, and that their language belongs to the Southern family of languages. To trace, therefore, Singhalese to one of the Northern family of languages and to call it a dialect of Sanscrit, is apparently far more difficult than to assign it an origin common with the Telengu, Tamil and Malayalam, the Southern family

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    The grammar and construction of Sinhalese have always remained Dravidian in the main, is admitted by all serious students of the present day . Thus the eminent scholar Gnanaprakasar goes on to quote excerpts from the speech delivered at the Ananda College on 28th September 1918 by the prominent Sinhalese scholar, Mudliyar W. F. Gunawardhana:
    “ I can do no better than quote here at some length from a living Sinhalese scholar. In a lecture delivered at Ananda College, Colombo, “before the Director of Education and a gathering of learned men” on the 28th September 1918 Mudliyar W. F. Gunawardhana gave a succinct account of the whole argument. After alluding to the traditional story of Vijaya and his seven hundred followers invading Ceylon from a country where a certain form of Parikit was spoken, and of their taking wives , with a large retinue, from the Tamil country in South India, the Mudliyar said:
    “Language, it may be premised, is the medium for the communication of our thoughts, and thoughts are communicated not by isolated words, but by means of sentence. Language taken essentially is, therefore, the sentence, and grammar is that science which analyses and explains the construction of the sentence. Scientifically, therefore, the determining factor of a language is not its vocabulary, but its structure, viz..the aspect of it which is concerned with the arrangement and mutual adjustment of words in the expression of thought ; and in this respect, it must be said, that Sinhalese is essentially a Dravidian language. This is not all. It evolution too seems to have been a Tamil basis. And so we seem safe in saying that, while in regard to its word-equipment, Sinhalese is the child of Pali and Sanskrit, it is, with regard to its physical features and physical structure, essentially the daughter of Tamil…….

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    We have already seen that Pali, if it was not the actual Parikit introduced by Vijaya and his followers into Ceylon, at any rate, fairly represents the language introduced.”
    Unfortunately, the peddlers of Sinhalese nationalistic agenda with all their might wish to keep the general Sinhalese populace away from the facts of history, as there is no other effective political tool than the tool of nationalistic fervour.
    This is from Lanka Mithra Sinhalese language brought up and nursed by Tamil dated 26.10.2014

    This is not all. It evolution too seems to have been a Tamil basis. And so we seem safe in saying that, while in regard to its word-equipment, Sinhalese is the child of Pali and Sanskrit, it is, with regard to its physical features and physical structure, essentially the daughter of Tamil……. We have already seen that Pali, if it was not the actual Parikit introduced by Vijaya and his followers into Ceylon, at any rate, fairly represents the language introduced.”
    Unfortunately, the peddlers of Sinhalese nationalistic agenda with all their might wish to keep the general Sinhalese populace away from the facts of history, as there is no other effective political tool than the tool of nationalistic fervour.
    This is from Lanka Mithra Sinhalese language brought up and nursed by Tamil dated 26.10.2014

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    All humans must EVOLVE from ancient beginnings.

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    Languages of the world all have a date of origin. Whatever people’s wishes are those dates cannot change.
    Sinhala language commenced in a written spoken form is from 700AD. It’s of course a hybrid language originated from the existing languages of that period. Tamil language is of a much earlier origin, the first written grammar of tamil language, THOLKAPIUM is from 400BC. There are even earlier written Tamil texts that were partially lost to nature.
    Amongst Earliest available written Tamil literary works from 100BC to 200AD, Manimekalai, Silapathikaram, Kundalakesi, Valaiyapathi, Jeevaka Sinthamani, all of them relate to Buddhism as it was a popular faith amongst Tamils in that period.
    Genetically, 60-70% of present Srilankans, across all ethnicities, Sinhala, Tamil, Muslim and Malay have the Haploid M Maternal mitochondrial DNA, denoting a common origin from a mother 80,000 years ago.
    These are facts and cannot be twisted around for political advantages.

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      ” Languages of the world all have a date of origin”

      Yes of cause. Our Sinhala ancestors suddenly thought 700AD is good to start a new language. So they collected 40% of Tamil words into their vocabulary. At that time Tamil language was secretly spoken in Sri Lanka so you can’t find any trace of it in written form. In 7AD these converted low cast Tamils into Sinhalese went to Sigiriya & wrote excellent poems on the Mirror Wall there. Even a person came from Uthara Desha ( North of the Island) had written in Sinhala.

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        mads racist quack please shup up and stop being so desperate and making an idiot of your self. You indeed are an out and out Sinhalese Buddhist Fascist , who will not stand to any reason

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          Rohan

          I can understand your desperation. Your parents may have been shy to give you a Tamil name.

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            latha

            Are Rohan and Latha Sinhala Names?

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        Latha

        “In 7AD these converted low cast Tamils into Sinhalese went to Sigiriya & wrote excellent poems on the Mirror Wall there. Even a person came from Uthara Desha ( North of the Island) had written in Sinhala.”

        Can we have some evidence and the actual poems please.
        Is it not written in Interlinear Inscriptions?

        Earlier I asked you if you were familiar with certain medieval literary work in Sinhala. You have dodge without responding to my comment? If you thought you are an expert on language, literature, history, heritage, … etc you would have answered my queries.

        “A book written in the Kandiyan period named “nampotha” mention about Kadurugoda Vihara now Tamilized as Kandarodei”

        Kandyan period (1476 – 1815) lasted only 339 years.
        Tell us when exactly this book was written/published and the authors name as well.

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          Vedda

          These poems are traced, written in books with explanations. If you read them you will see how rich the language those poets used.

          In our school days we learnt some Sinhala literature in our Sinhala period. Today I think children learn more than us. They sit for a 5 hour Sinhala paper at GCE (O/L)

          I did not read Nampotha but it contains a list of major Buddhist temples in the Island at that era including North

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      1. Tolkappiyam is dated variously, and the accepted date is between 5-6th century A.D. And according to Tolkappiyam there were no Tamil speaking countries outside of Tamilakam. All of the names of the books you have named is from Tamilnadu, what do they have to do with the Sinhalese? And looking at Manimekalai and Silapadikaram one can safely conclude that Buddhism was a just a fringe religion among Tamils and not at all a popular religion as you say. Manimekalai was a Hindu girl, born to a devadasi whose lover was the husband of Kanaki, the main character of Silapadikaram, who later became a goddess for the Sinhalese too, as Pattini when the veneration of her was brought here either by one of the kings or Tamils or both. The society as shown in both these stories is a Hindu society infested with caste system, segregation, discrimination and devadasis.

      2. The mother you mention who lived 80,000 years ago would be having a few billion descendants from that time onwards. They speak thousands of languages and inhabit a good portion of the earth. Having even the exact same doesn’t give the right for one sibling to come by force and grab land that belongs to another sibling. That’s what the Tamils are trying to do here and have caused enormous suffering to the Sinhalese and themselves too.

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    Seasons Greetings to everyone even to the Chingkallams
    Hope you listen to these Tamil Christmas Carols and become less nasty and more religious , especially the Chingkalla Christian

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAbJ3mh_NXs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2q33ga4FUA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hI11NTG3Wo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF_8G7LTx-k&list=RDRF_8G7LTx-k&index=1

    Love XXXXX this includes to all Chingkallams including the racists

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      Pandi Kutti:-
      Why are You, an acknowledged Tamil, Singing Christian Carols in the Tamil Language?
      You should be Chanting Hindu Prayers in Tamil, not Foreign Carols!

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        I am Protestant Christian not Hindu and Christianity is not foreign to me. It is my religion. Bless you Chingkallam . Hope you listened to the songs and felt god in you

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        What does being Christian go to do with being Tamil? Tamil people are very secular, you get Hindu Tamils, Christian Tamils , Muslim Tamils , Jain Tamils . there were Buddhist Tamils to but they are no more. We love all religions, and this includes Buddhism and HIndu Lord Budda but not Sinhalese Buddhist Fascism , that is now being imposed on us, just like the way Burmese Buddhist Fascism is being imposed on the Muslim Rohingya in Myanmar. Tamil is the only language were you get great classical works , that relates to many religions. Most of them area Hindu but you get Buddhist( Manimekalai) Kudalakesi( Jainism) , Thembavani a Christian Tamil classic written in the 1700s by Veeramamuniver or Constantzo Beschi an Italian Jesuit priest. This work is considered by many experts as one of the best Tamil works ever written. Last is Seerapuranam that was written in the 1600s by Umaru Pulavar , considered one of the best Indian and Tamil Islamic classical works. Therefore Pandi Kutti can be an ardent Tamil and a Christian , there is no contradiction of this to us. May to a Sinhalese Buddhist Fascist like you.

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      Nice harmonizing…..unique instruments. Sing everything in English and it would be quaint medieval.

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        Thanks god bless you. These songs are actually being sung in traditional to Carnatic musical tunes with slight western influence, except the last one where the children sing. It is pure Carnatic music. Even the western instruments used are playing Carnatic tunes. The violin is now widely used in Carnatic Music to play Carnatic tunes. These songs are very difficult to sing , especially the Carnatic ragas to be sung very fast , it looks very easy as they are singing it very well but believe it is very difficult. The first three songs are sung by group who sing in Thamizh and Malayalam . The same songs are sung in both languages. Nowadays Christian Thamizh songs sung in traditional Indian/Carnatic music tradition are more popular, that songs sung in the western tradition. The same songs are sung in both languages. I suspect they are Malayali singing in both languages.
        Here is another song of theirs
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOM3uR6bqYk

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          Wow….Carnatic music……the UFO music.

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    Native Vedda, responding to your earlier question; who let the dogs out?

    Solomon WEST RIDGEWAY Dias Pandara Nayakam returned from Oxford with a sense of entitlement. He wanted to get to the top of the UNP in hurry. In the end Dud, JayR and SirJoan stood in his way. So he had to form his own party and go for broke. He promised our people the earth. . . to the Sinhala people that was ‘Sinhala Only’. That was enough to get him into power. He let lose the ‘ape aanduwa’ dogs and the country got rabies. It was downhill to the doghouse all the way after that. His dear father papa Sir Solomon who was a staunch anglican anglophine, would be turning in his grave at what his little boy did to claim ‘fame’. Just as we all knew, it was all going to end in tears. And it did. I know I was there thinking it was all a very bad dream.

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    I left 25 years after so called independence at the age of 18 , thanks I used my knowledge and got out, I’d rather be a second class citizen, and have freedom of speech and do what I do to talk human rights. I am the one in for front to stop aid to all commonwealth countries, look what happened by modi, the hard earned tax payers money from middle England who had been left behind since Margaret thatcher given to India and he has given to gr on a platter. Once my message get through to working class the foreign aid would be stopped. Ceylon Tamils have left since 1956 and second and third generation can buy srilanka out right without borrowing ( only economist) will understand my comments , so please keep your opinions to the nationalist who probably carry a begging bowl in reality .p.s it is the Tamils who don’t have any connections what’s so ever keep coming back to service the country

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    Tamils are like the Jews before the creation of Israel. Their homeland is Tamil Nadu but are effectively refugees under the Indo Aryans in India. They are also second class citizens in Malaysia, Singapore, Fiji, South Africa, Guyana, Mauritius, Canada and the list goes on. Unfortunately poor Sri Lanka has become an easy pick. But Eelam will always be only a dream. “Aiyo, what to do men?”

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      Oh really where is the traditional homeland of the Sinhalese? The so called La la land somewhere in modern Bangladesh or Odisha or may be from the slums and fishing villages of Southern Tamil Nadu , as this is whare most of the ancestors of the present day Sinhalese originated from. Even their DNA proves this. However they go around stating they are truly indigenous. A hybrid people and language all from India , especially South India/Tamil Nadu but truly indigenous. The British are at fault for giving power to you people in 1948, as the Sinhalese provided them all sorts of hospitality. This is like giving garland to monkey. Now creating all sorts of fake history to justify their genocide and ethnic cleansing on the island’s Tamils and claiming everything as theirs , as they can do so.

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    Tamils think history is all about making spurious claims and fabricating incoherent nonsensical theories. Tamils have zero authentic and indigenous history outside of Tamilakam. Sinhalese do not need to bother with history, our presence as an unique ancient people and a nation, proves all the history there needs to be proven.

    Tamil literature and historical record is very clear about where the Tamil territory, i.e Tamilakam was – namely between Cape Comorin in the south and Venkatam (Thirupathi hills) in the north. The area outside the Tamil territory is called “molipeyar thesam”, i.e non-Tamil speaking areas/countries. This island is categorized as “molipeyar thesam”, in which the language called Cinkalam is spoken. Until the end of the 19th century Tamils never claimed to be from anywhere else than Tamilakam. Tamils resident in this island always maintained that they came from the opposite coast and settled here and that Tamilakam was their home. How come suddenly in the late 19th century and 20th century Tamils suddenly start claiming all this nonsense about having a homeland here? This island has always been the island of the Sinhalese, which the Tamils called Cinkalam, Ilankai and Eelam. Tamil homeland is in Tamilnadu. You cannot change that. Tamil nationalism which seeks to destroy the Sinhalese and break-up this island is an alien and unnatural intrusion into this island. This island simply does not have the space nor the natural landscape needed to accommodate and maintain two so different peoples like the Tamils and Sinhalese, since it does not have any natural barriers which could have served as borders.

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    Great writing CVW. My 35 years of research has proven sunken Tamil land, Saivam/Wishnavm alias Tamil Religion, are all very factual. All Tamil educated and intellectuals here, please don’t waste your time to educate or open minds of Sinhalese by replying to racist rants. Sinhalese are genetically coded for blood thirsty racism. Dr Brain Seneviratne types are very rare among Sinhalese. Catholic Cardinal Malcom, Oxford/Cambridge Gamini Dissanayake, Lalith Amudali, Cyril Mathew etc, come to mind for racism symbols.
    In South, Sinhalese are nicer to wealthy or educated Tamils, for personal gains. Once you are retired engineer or Doc, Sinhalese would show their true face. Rest of the Tamils are addressed Demala, Thambiya, Sakkiliya, Paraya etc, and treated as rubbish. In 1987, when monks were burning down property and rioting, a double Phd from UK, Catholic priest superior, instructed my fellow students to keep an eye on me. Means harm me. That’s how racist Sinhalese are.
    In 1983, Sinhalese mob tasted blood after butchering Tamils to death in a church in Matugama. Yes they shared and drank Tamil blood for some reason. In National Seminary, Kandy, dozens of Tamil priests were seriously beaten and harmed by fellow Sinhalese priests. The famous foreign liquor store in Pettah was looted by executives of SLPA. Navy jeeps led and protected rioters, in all of Colombo. Army jeeps pulled open locked Tamil businesses in Main Street.
    Sinhalese racism is boundless. Fictitious Mahavamsa is only one reason. Please don’t try to educate these beasts. Diplomat Ravinatha Ariyasinha’s lies in UN for last 20 years shows, Sinhalese are unable to be civilized.

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    As a human rights campaigner some one sent this link,it is funny to read the comments of some here as still in 21st century arguing was it chicken or egg came first
    Nelson Mandela who one time called a terrorist British changed their tune to suit them as a freedom fighter .
    Tiger movement has been recognised as a freedom movement and not terrorist movement by many western courts.
    Before some racist pick on this I would like to say the science is so advanced, and the dna profiling and DNA sequence sampling could have traced j.r.jeyawardenas ancestors to the right barbarian tribes ,some where in Asia.
    In electrical engineering v=ir is the basic
    In law ignorance is not an excuse for defence.
    In war no one wins who loses the most
    Well they need literacy and numeracy to progress in life,
    Unfortunately their money has been siphoned by their own politicians to Swiss accounts and USA accounts.
    Once a former srilankan president on a political rally said “when I came to power it was 90 rupees to a sterling and now am in power it is 190 rupees to a sterling and the crowd applauded.
    I just don’t speak for the Tamils who are left behind.my heart goes to the law abiding hardworking tax paying Sinhalese aswell who are caught in the crossfire.
    Hope some one with courage and strength think of what happened to sheik mujibir
    Rahman and family in the sixtees.it is only a dream like Martin Luther King once said.
    There is no chance and no change as long as what I mentioned above.
    The Tamils who left the country since 1983 ,and claimed refugee status now aren’t loyal to the country that they are living in.

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    Tamils have to see, how Ranil W makes things happen for Sinhalese by cheating West and Tamils. Current leadership is totally a Ranil made. Sirisena’s 5 years of cheating and LTTE demise all made by Ranil. Myanmar in Hague for 300 odd Rohingya death but 148,000 Tamil death has no perpetrator or at least not in news cycle. Ranil’s govt had all racist in key positions, so no solution for Tamil issue possible.
    Tamils repeatedly fail in diplomacy and politics thus World Tamils suffer. Japan had a interest crushing LTTE, so World Tamils become powerless. Then Japan can bury the 50 year old case of 200 000 Myanmar Tamils death in “death railway” project. Japan intentionally let 200 000 Tamils to die no food, snake and insect bites in the jungles of Burma. Japan avoided any court challenge for now, by destroying LTTE. So came Yakushi Akashi to help peace talks. Tamils failed to see through Diplomacy and Politics.
    New Delhi a total wrecking ball in the region. Worst internal oppressor today with a farce democracy. New Delhi is a Demon-Crazy. Tamils should court challenge laws and get a referendum for separation. So World Tamils will have a better tomorrow for our future generations to come. Until Tamil Nadu is free, world Tamils will suffer.
    All Tamil parties, and groups should get under one umbrella and create a united effort to uplift our future.

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    All the professionals and intellectual here, please ask yourself before writing, is it going to help any Tamils, uplift Tamils lives, or help humanity as whole. If yes, please write or reply. Please don’t write/reply expecting Sinhalese to become civilized, it will never happen. It how their temples, villages, societies, universities and all institutes been set up. So no point replying racist rants. Nothing would ever change. Change should be induced from outside like Kosovo, South Sudan, Eritrea, East Timor etc.

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      C.V. Wigneswaran:-
      “How Do You Expect Tamils To March Together With Other Communities?”

      Yes How can They?
      When They are a Race Apart! Who believe that they are the First Race on this Earth, and that their Language is the First Civilised and Cultured of all the Earth’s languages?

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