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Venezuela; Is It Reminiscent Of Socialist Suffering In Sri Lanka?

By Mano Ratwatte  –

Mano Ratwatte

Intellectually superior academics on this forum have also commented about benefits of socialism, given expert ideological commentaries and talked about Venezuela and what went wrong. It is probably a good idea to share two messages received at two different times from a friend from Venezuela about their crisis and the tragedy of the once most prosperous nation in Latin America.   

This writer will not give much commentary, but these letters , copied and pasted below, give one perspective that is far better than expert commentaries about socialism, and global imperialism etc from Sri Lanka. To protect the sources, this writer will not give much background on the people. But this young man was someone we knew quite closely once.  He is an educated professional. This writer will not edit his comments nor spell check for authenticity. But will love to hear solutions from socialist academics and experts on this forum about what next? Sri Lanka went through enough absurd state controlled inefficient, incompetent and corrupt events to know socialism of that nature fails and it was an epic failure that led to haal polu, miris polu, bread queues and suffering of the masses and overnight rich low and middle level bureaucrats who played the system 

 This writer was fortunate to be a student at a government school with people from all segments of society who were relentless in venting their anger and frustration openly and sometimes with invectives in his face for no sin of his but, sadly because of this writer’s life fate to be part of the ruling family that imposed such hardships on the masses and deservedly got routed in 1977. This writer was blackguarded at the local Samuupakaaraya or Cooperative store in Colombo 5, when he went with his ration cards and the driver for the state blessings of sugar and karawala and maldive fish etc. Are Venezuelans suffering the same way because of blind state control and nationalization? In response to this writer’s question about the images about food shortages he sent this picture with the comment below it taken just now.  Just like in Sri Lanka, it will always be the poorer classes who suffer first and foremost.

This is just now as we speak… you tell me about people starving and looking out for something in the trash… now you tell me… I didn’t even have yo look for that… I see that everyday almost everywhere

More than likely Maduro will fall and his army will not fight if the US intervenes; even if their intervention will not be entirely altruistic because of the tremendous oil reserves in Venezuela. But how did it become such a basket case? Whichever way, this young man’s commentaries from inside are far more valuable than pontifications from self-proclaimed intellectuals.

Current message received today early morning Feb 27-2019

Hey mano how’s it going? We’re just fine! Actually waiting for our fellow American’s arrival… as well as 90% of Venezuela’s population. Crazy things have been taking place in the last days here. Here are some facts That you might not know and could help you understand the situation: – Guaido (president in charge) was out of political sight a month and a half ago. He was in the congress but sincerely hi didn’t stand out. – Guaido is from Leopoldo Lopez ‘s party “Voluntad Popular. – Leopoldo is a key figure for Washington in Venezuela. He’s home arrested right now. – A very close friend of mine is in Cúcuta (Colombia) right now working for Voluntad Popular’s Lester Toledo (he has political asylum in the US right now) and she told me a few days ago that the whole movement is being planned by Toledo, Guaido and Leopold, supported by the US government as well as Colombia and Brazil. – Maduro claims the lack of medicine and food is due to US and Europe’s sanctions over some memebers of the government (he actually says that the money “That was stolen” was mente to be used for humanitarian resources). – between 85-90% of our population wants maduro out

 and around 65% agree for an international intervention. – Maduro and his gang want to hold on to the power doing whatever it takes: according to some military members that deserted and escaped to Colombia and Brazil last week (around 160 officials between national guard, special forces and the political police) they took prisoners and armed them to “defend the revolution” in the border line with Colombia and Brazil. – Their propaganda right now is about victory. They claim they beat Americans and Colombians that wanted to invade. – The government says they are going to arrest Guaido when he comes back to Venezuela (He’s in Bogota right now) because he had a restriction for going out of Venezuela. – The US said they would react dramatically if Maduro and his gang mess with Guaido or his family. They would consider that action a kidnap since They are no long government. They would be acting as a guerrilla. In other things… people here are very ancious. Some are pressuring Guaido for him to call on the international intervention right away, others like me are just eating pop corns and waiting for the action sequence, and other want maduro out but do not share the idea of an intervention…. at last there are the chavistas but they’re a piece of shit so their opinion doesn’t matter whatsoever LOL. Nice to hear (or see) from you. Greeting to ****************. If you have any other question please let me know.

Then below is the message from 2014: This is scarier

Hey Mano! First of all, we’re all very thankful for your concern about our situation. I read your post right as you wrote it, but i was very busy finding tires, wire and gas to burn tonight. What started as a student protest turned out as a national protest (and I’m very glad for that). All though we’ve seen in the last days what we thought was impossible to see from a government in our country, I didn’t think an internet blackout would come so soon. Well I gotta tell you we’re getting out of 25 to 30 minutes internet blackout… why only 30 minutes? maybe they were just testing. I’ll be honest with you, that scares the crap out of every single one of us, not only for our rights being violated once again, but because of the armed groups riding cities on mortorcycles shooting at protesters. Every time the government does a national broadcast, armed cilvil groups go around cities shooting at protesters and even evaiding private property along with the national guard. These armed groups are no made up story, last night I had to spend the night at my gfrined’s sister’s appartment, we were watching news when we heard gun shots outside (she lives 3 blocks away from me in a middle-high class neighborhood in Maracaibo), I went to check out what was going on in the window (she lives in the 15th floor) and saw a group of around 20 to 30 motorcyclists (civils and state troopers) shooting. The national guard is a joke, its said there are more than 90 national guards arrested for revealing against their superiors for the entry of cuban military (avispas negras or black hornets) in venezuelan soil. Rumor has it that cubans are replacing venezuelan national guards and wearing their uniforms because venezuelan guards are not willing to shoot venezuelan people. Mean while, about an hour ago some neighbors were shot at by NG for protesting (blocking the street and burning tires and trash). This whole situation is driving us to a social collapse. Our values as a society ar desappearing, people in building are making molotov bombs to throw from the roof tops at the government’s armed motorcyclists, were also tying wires across the streets so these assholes fall when they come to take their guns. If you have any questions please let me know. We’re all ok at home, days here are “normal” but the nights are long. My regards to ****** ************!

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    Mano Ratestte,

    Thanks for the Venezuelan eyewitness news, and it’s comparisonto pre-1977 Sri Lankan Democratic socialism.

    In Sri Lanka, there was rule of law and democratic elections, that replaced democratic socialism with democratic capitalism and “free trade”.

    The core problem with socialism is low productivity.

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      good points Mr. or Ms. Amarasiri. I see chronic indifference and inefficiency sometimes at US Federal government offices where one wonders if the job was given on qualifications and abilities or some other criteria too. So that was an inherent problem with socialism. A lot of capable Tea Estate managers were pushed out; bloody idiots were promoted to run estates etc. But rule of law existed to a far greater extent. If you recall Wijeweera was tried in courts for waging war on “her majesty’s government of Ceylon” in 1971 because our nominal head of state was the Queen of England at that time. The decision was upheld by the privy council too in England.

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      Amarasiri and the rest of the learned gentlemen,

      Does the failure of governance – irrespective of what it is/was; socialism, communism, capitalism, despotism …….. – has anything to do with that Maduro is a bus driver and Sirimavo was a housewife?

      Can a bus driver or a housewife step in and run a country irrespective of the form of governance?

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        Nimal Fernando,

        It depends on the advisors around the bus driver or house wife, AND their political ideology. The Socialist ideology while eglatatian, gives very little incentives for the individual to increase productivity. They will do the minimum to get by, as they will not reap the benefits of the upside. The upside is enjoyed by the Party leaders. So, the overall productivity of the society drops, less to go around, shortages and corruption follows. Then the rulers resort to undemocratic and dictatorial tactics, to prevent the uprising of the populace.

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          Amarasiri,

          Thanks. A very good answer but too complex.

          More simply ………. the mind of a Lee Kwan Yew works differently to the mind of a Mauduro/Sirimavo/Mahinda/Sirisena/Mugabe/Ranil(to a lesser degree) …………. clear-vision vs. pseudo-ideological muddiness cum simple backwardness.

          In a place like Lanka one should keep things very simple ……….. too much complexity muddies the issues ………..

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      Amarasiri,
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      How much more productivity does the world need? Lankan masses are farmers/fishermen by genes. The West is far different from us through centuries of abuse to themselves, and the places they colonized. Currently we are going through the Victoria era where the displaced Masses congregate in the cities. Thank God for the Middle East labor.

      As per Mano Ratwatte, guy was driven to the corporative store by his chauffer, whist the masses did their usually thing (during and after colonization; and during and after pre and post capitalism), viz. went in crowded hot buses and lined up in long queues for their daily sustenance. After capitalism, long lines have been replaced with hard labor in the Middle East.
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      As per Venezuela, no parallel whatsoever to Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka was always in an unfavorable position, even without any intervention. In Venezuela, it was a concerted effort to drive down oil prices so as to get the Middle East places, but Emirs made deals with the US presidents. Venezuela was an unfortunate after-effect (probably not done as deliberately as with Saudi). President of Venezuela has too many traitorous oppositional forces around him and so is fighting back. Saudi has the ever ruling Emirs, and so treachery more out of the question. Something like that.

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        …whilst the masses did their usual* thing…….viz. went in crowded hot buses and lined up in long queues for their daily sustenance.

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    Current Venezuela is a sad story.
    It is unbelievable how such a wealthy country collapsed in front of our eyes.
    I don’t think the catastrophe has anything to do with socialism.
    Venezuela was a democracy before it was ruined by dictatorship.

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      Ch
      “Venezuela was a democracy before it was ruined by dictatorship.”
      Can we have some details.
      Have you heard of what an Ex President of the US had to say about elections in Venezuela since Chavez?
      Carter was full of praise.
      Check your facts before your prejudices take control of your mind.

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    Yes friend Mano! Maduro desperately in need of help to prolong his stay in power, and to carry on forever with his socialism, by starving his people to death. It’s time to pack off to Venezuela our comrades – Vasu, Wimal, Gammampilli, JVPers and all other socialists to give a big helping hands to Maduro. When I hear socialism, I go freaking crazy, and that bad memories that I endured during that dark period of starvations in our country fleshes back in my memory- we were planting fast crops like manioc, batala, etc in our school grounds, after school the entire days were spent in the queues for everything- rice, sugar, bicycles tyres, kerosine smelling clothes, medicine, even for clothes to wrap the dead body and clergy etc. My God, what a terrible time and was a living hell. Like always the only people who lived well were those stooges who worked in co-operatives and all the politicians henchmen. Those who worked in co-ops were getting high doweries too. Still this socialist experiment is a huge drag in our country, and not letting its forward March like the rest of the Asian tiger economies.

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      Nimal,

      Socialism is low productivity, low incentives combined with eglaratianism, all are poor, except those st the top, and those who are corrupt and good at stealing.

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        Amarasiri,

        Doesn’t happen in Mynamar, Cambodia, Vietnam, Nepal, Bhutan. Buddhist honor comes in in these places.

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      Nimal,

      That’s how the masses were suffering ever since colonization -terrible for the elite however . Only now, long queues have been replaced by hard labour in the ME.

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    MR: The two letters you reproduce in this article provide two snapshots of the unfolding tragedy in Venezuela, which has also been recounted in a million other places, but, in a tragedy of a different kind, none of that will cause the “intellectually superior academics” you refer to to give up their infatuation with socialism.

    To credit of socialism, it must be said that it does deliver on one of its promises: equality. Equality in misery and poverty.

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      Leonard,

      It takes time for the socialist and corroborative monetary system to build up between countries. Usually it is crushed by the capitalistic countries that want to further enhance their capitalistic networking.

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        collaborative* i mean…..not corroborative ( though corrobotative might work too).

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    “From the Venezuelan government’s perspective, the U.S. is deliberately inducing economic pain in order to push Venezuelan citizens and the military into rebelling against Maduro. At the same time, though, they are trying to play the role of a beneficent actor by offering supplies to the opposition to distribute to citizens. For the Venezuelan government, among many others that see the obvious publicity stunt the U.S. has sought to generate, these actions are hypocritical and downright insincere. If the U.S. truly wanted to assist Venezuelan citizens, many point out that they should work through international groups, like the Red Cross and United Nations, and eliminate economic sanctions. Indeed, this is precisely why the Red Cross, for one, has refused to participate in these U.S. actions, instead criticizing how the U.S. has overtly politicized humanitarian support in order to generate a media spectacle, which now includes a concert sponsored by billionaire Richard Branson on the Colombian-Venezuelan border this weekend”.
    “However, it’s also quite clear what the U.S. is trying to do: generate a media spectacle that seemingly reveals President Maduro as a cruel dictator who wishes to starve his own people. In addition, it’s also clearly designed to bait the Venezuelan military into turning on Maduro. We can surely debate the cruelty of Maduro’s domestic policies and his inability and unwillingness to seriously combat the economic crisis, perhaps in an effort to benefit his cronies. Yet, Maduro is not incorrect about the U.S.’s disingenuous behavior”.
    -Timothy M. Gill

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    Is Mano Ratwatte predicting a similar outcome in Sri lanka.

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    Mr. Mano Ratwatte, This is an excellent idea and an authentic one. I as one of your classmates from the Govt. school, albeit a very prestigious one, can attest to the extremely interesting mini-paRliamentary debates you had with other classmates with diagonally opposite political views and THEY WE JUST OUT OF THIS WORLD IN QUALITY!!!!

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    There are several key issues.
    The US has recognized an illegitimate government that it persuaded to take over unlawfully.
    The US imposed a blockade on Venezuela for a long time and that caused the economic misery.
    The oil price slump was a planned strategy; and recent refusal by Western banks to release Venezuela’s funds is a dangerous precedent that will in the medium and long run hurt the banks more than it will hurt Maduro.
    If Maduro is as unpopular as the writer seeks to persuade us, why is there no mass rebellion despite the ‘starvation’.
    The news we hear is highly conditioned and selectively delivered. Do the contributors of comments ever care look at other sources?
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    Sri Lanka will be targetted by the US if it cannot control the government.
    But it is not easy. Neither India nor China will like it.
    venezuelanalysis.com and globalresearch.ca are worth a look for those who want to see the other side of the story.

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      SJ,

      Can’t have a successful oil-rich country full of socialism in the South America, can they! American monetary control over the region will fall like dominoes.

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    Here, Mano Rathwaththe is wrong. I know US citizens are fed with filtered News. Most other comments are idiots or just Common Candidate project people. Sri lankan Neo-liberal project which came into fruition and what is happening Venezuela are two different things, but may be the different stages of the same project. IF you read more, Chavez was more socialist is a wrong interpretation. It is the same thing that happens in Oil rich arab countries, Libya and Venezuela. Chavez used that Oil wealth to enrich peoples lives. USA is the main customer and chavez was friendly with CUBA and that pissed off the USA. What Mano saying is wrong. Browse and see Russia and VENEZUELA has a defence pact. I think USA was planning a SYRIA like intervention. As they can not do that, they are creating peoples protests and ARAB springs. I think , in Sri lanka, even if gotabhaya Rajapakse wins, USA has won too because gotabhaya Rajapakse has signed, on behalf of the govt, a Logistics and something agreement with the USA govt. IF he does not obey his assets in USA may get sanctions like things. I think Mahinda Rajapakse’s assets are all in brothers names. so, he is not allowed. I read that russian long range bombers, transport planes and russian Military advisors are in Venezuela and the USA senate is really pissed off and they have warned RUssia. both countries have shouting matches in UN security council, I heard.
    amarasiri is Dumb. Every country needs TRADE but not inflation, currency fluctuations and attaching to international currencies. communist Commune system also did not work. See chian the govt is the richest and now china spends inside the country in suburbs. but western agencies predict everything in relations to external businesses and go wrong.

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    Venezuela’s predicament has nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with Oil, Chavez’s policies of nationalizing the oil assets and getting rid of the American and Canadaian Oil companies were the beginning of the crisis, the US want uninterrupted oil supply close to home, and it is either from Venezuela or Canada, and Trump is dealing again this time so close to a humanitarian disaster and also Russian involvement. The US will not invade Venezuela, because Russia is ready, just like the Cuban missile crisis, Mano is way off here. And by the way, we all lived through the austerity policies of 70-77, and came out way stronger for just that, c’mon none starved, it was our best lesson in non-consumerism and nowadays Millenials are harping on nonconsumerism as it’s their own invention.

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    Mano I think the Venezuelan crisis is much dire and different to what we suffered in silly Lanka. what our donkeys practiced was not socialism but a horrible mix of an ultra nationalist,hedonistic, communalism than communism. The Dr. NM’s, Philips, Peters and Colvin’s themselves were feudalistic. They preserved their land at a time when others like ourselves had to part with our’s for a being whacked by duties and taxes. Has our communal minded loonies operated for one more year, we would have been history and worse off than today’s Venezuela. It is sad that the West has found this new jockey named Guaido as a mechanism for regime change. Guaido did not contest a single election while in the opposition. The biased Western media and narrative does not reveal that Guaido is a right wing nationalist and oligarch that a hand in death squads. He is now portrayed as a saint and savior by puppets planted by the brainless US gunslingers. The modus operandi in toppling Maduro might back fire amidst Western propaganda in containing the Latin American spread of socialism or dictatorships near to the America. The hypocrisy is that the two worse dictators are currently peddling a belated Valentines celebration in Hanoi. Venezuela’s socialism is not the issue although mocked by the West. This sort of fate might befall any democratic and capitalist nation if the country is been systematically targeted and scuttled from the outside by economic sanctions. Venezuela was never a failed state although badly governed. Their downfall was due to poor economic policies relating to unregulated and not diversified energy portfolio to balance the price elasticity of world prices in crude. The similar fate is faced by Saudi with ARAMCO or Qatar with their energy markets.

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    Mano Ratwatte, in his role as an apologist for Yankee neocolonialism under the guise of protecting democracy and the poorpeople from dictators has reached a new low with this justification for a neocolonial Jewish plot in a poor, but principled Latin American country.
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    In his bird brain, he seems to be unable to see the role plade by the US neocon conspirators in causing trouble in Venezuela, with the aid of crumb feeding corrupot murderous regimes in Colombia and othe LA countries.
    The first joke about the American shit machine led by DonaldTrump talking about democratically winning elections is that Trump polled 4.5 million votes less than Hilary Clinton, (not that America would have been any better under that witch), and still ended up becoming president with the corrupt electoral vote system. But he showed his dirty genitals to ‘appoint’ a lackey as president and worsen the suffering of poor Venezuelans by further buggery. American Black media is providing grossly exaggerated lies about the shortages, riots and military defections. Other former colonisers Britain, France and other Jewish European states have egged him on. Israel is fully involved in this plot because the cabal of 1% behind it are descendants of Spanish Jewish colonisers.
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    No matter what, the bastards will not be able to topple Nicolas Maduro because the 99% poor Venezuelans and the armed forces are fully behind him. Maduro who was chosen by the late great Hugo Chavez to continue with the Bolivarian Revolution and the the Fifth Republic Movement started by the great Chávez and is currently led by the United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV).
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    The Revolution of President Chavez is founded on the ideology of the great Venezuelan and Latin American revolutionary leader Simón Bolívar, who fought the Spanish American wars of independence to free South America from from Spanish rule to implement nationalism and a state-led economy, ending injustices to native Latin Americans.

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    Socialism is the experiment that characterized the 20th century and it was tried in Russia, Cuba, China, Korea, Germany, Hungary and so on, resulting in hundreds of millions dead through wars and starvation as a result. Why should Venezuela be any different? Or Sri Lanka? Will we never learn?

    I note that some in the comments believe that Socialism could not be the result of Democracy? Actually why not? Democracy is merely a system of selection of people in power. Socialism is a system where the scope of government is widened to allow for coercive procurement of properties and wealth for social welfare purposes.

    In fact Socialism is almost always the result of Democracy. Because people as a collective will always vote for freebies, not understanding that it comes at the expense of their own freedoms.

    Why Socialism doesn’t work economically? The great economist Mises explained why Socialism must naturally fail through the Socialist Calculation Problem. Look it up.

    Ultimately Socialism is hubris and the intellectuals who support it shouldnbe scorned for being utterly brain dead. In fact they are greedy beyond measure because Socialism is ultimately all about greed for power. It is a disgusting, perverse and greatly immoral philosophy.

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    Mano,

    Yes during 70-77 period people had to wait in queue to get their rations from sapupakaraya but remember no one died of malnutrition or searched dustbins for food people managed with hardships true that there were shortages but we were producing everything in this country including motor vehicles people need to sacrifice to achieve to become a prosperous country
    What open economy brought to this country people living beyond their means and falling into death trap true that Libya was authoritarian govt under Gadaffi people were happy what US invasion brought disaster to the country.
    Pl remember your aunty was ruling the country during 70-77 period.

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    R, you say:
    “Socialism is ultimately all about greed for power. It is a disgusting, perverse and greatly immoral philosophy.”
    The description will fit organized religion far better than any political ideology.

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      SJ,
      Your focus on religion as the root of all ills is not based on objective fact.

      Please read: “The Myth of Religious Violence: Secular Ideology and the Roots of Modern Conflict” by William T Cavanaugh, who demonstrates that Secularism is EQUALLY if not MORE responsible for much immorality and violence in the world.

      Perhaps then you would stop giving undue focus on religion in much of your commentary.

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        R
        I have seen organized religion in action, near home and afar.
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        I respect the faith of individuals, but when organized religions and religious personalities mess around with mankind, it is one’s duty to speak out.
        What is moral to you could be immoral to another. Do you want a list?

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          Your personal observations are not representative of the whole, and therefore could be biased.

          When you place blame on organized religion at the exclusion of other types of oppression your opinions appear uninformed and out of balance.

          For any keen observer would note that the great villiains of the 20th century, Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, the North Korean Kims etc. were irreligious or atheists, and destroyed hundreds of millions.

          The organized ‘religion’ of government armies has been a massive destroyer of people in the world, in particular the US army.

          Hence my book recommendation. Please do try to get hold of a copy. Rave reviews can be seen on Amazon.com.

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            R
            Are you seriously unaware of what is going on in the name of religion?
            Try to read more widely before prescribing what fits your prejudices.

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              I am afraid you miss my point or you are not reading me.

              I am not saying that immoralities do not occur in the name of religion. There is no denying this.

              What I AM saying is that you unduly lay blame on religion when Secularism and Atheism are EQUAL in blame.

              This is evidenced by the book I have recommended which provides the facts.

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    Mano
    Might help if we know about letter writer
    a) Economic class, any inherited wealth?
    b) European looking or mezito/Indian looks. Chavez was the first leader from the “indigine”.

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/02/venezuela-fear-that-trumps-coup-plan-is-destined-to-fail.html

    Incidentally I am the one who lives next Backwaters, and mutual friend Chris.

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    Mano , I will try to present this issue in a different way. Up to now what we heard is nothing but the usual excuses from the experts of so called Socialism and communism. I have never read on Marx or any one else, Will I ??? hell no. Will anyone waste time watching a flopped movie or read failed book. Have I read anything about Socialism ??? Never but I had experienced it in Lanka firsthand and understood, what kind of a political bull shit it was. It is a system to cover all the deficiencies/inadequacies of politicians and keep public ignorant. First look at the facts.(just google to know ) Is there any country succeed with the experiment of Socialism ???none to my knowledge.Venezuela was pretty much in the grip of Chavez Family and now Maduro for decades. Yes the US had tried to change regimes but not to the extent like Cuba or Arab countries. As in North Korea the grip was (family rule and other geo political reasons) difficult to penetrate for US to have any meaning full success. Now coming to OIL. Today the number one country to produce oil is US , Venezuela is almost 10 th and in between you have all the rest. Until China,s rapid development took off and started guzzling, US manged to keep prices low.But once China took over things it became difficult. Now they have realized this fact and long term vision they are gradually replacing the need with alternate fuels . (to continue)

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    Any one who is aware of oil industry know it requires $ billions just to find,explore and eventually to produce , all for a limited amount of time, there after the wells are dry. It takes 2 to 3 mega producers together in making any single project a success. Due to this fact Chavez is the one who invited foreign companies (Chevron,Total) to come into Venezuela in joint operations , to keep the main income going. In the mean time he used all the income into buying public support, continuing his family rule, giving subsidiary as bribes, keeping currency artificially at par to $ to make public believe how strong the country is , running a illegal parallel junta for protection , running state own medias which are family propaganda machines where supporters are on pay roll —–etc—-etc.Finally oil crashed, China, s development cooled off, US and rest of the west need less because of switching ti alternate fuels and our pseudo hero Chavez left in a hurry. . If Chavez is MR , Maduro is more like MS no charisma or political savvy. Trying every thing illegal to save himself. Blaming USA and colonialism are nothing but excuses for failure.

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      chiv:
      Chavez “continuing his family rule”.
      That alone speaks volumes of your knowledge of the subject.

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    The meaning of Socialism is, crooked politicians finding ways to take hard earned money from working class and spend on keeping them selves in power and luxury (Venezuela/ Lanka model). Communism currently is Capitalism wrapped in a glossy cover and presented to public, again for politicians and oligarchs to become more richer.(Russia/China). Capitalism I do not know the meaning of it. But I do have the sense to know “you have to earn money to spend it”, Other options are cheating, fraud,spend thrift —-etc—-etc. Whether it is house, corporate, government or business, they all have to ” earn money to spend” it. How you use or save is a different issue.

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    Guys, ALL :I DID was share a Upper middle class PROFESSIONAL Venezuelans thoughts about his own country; the lawless parallels to some periods in Sri Lanka are amazingly scary. But the experts, the self appointed intellectuals can argue on the merits-demerits of state controlled economies and nationalization. As for the External factor, OF COURSE I KNOW it is about Oil and US desires to control supply. That is a different topic. All I did was give INSIDER views.

    This young man is an Architect. His mom has a PhD in Petroleum engineering. Father was a construction engineer and was jobless when the economy crashed but now works for the son. They have no land wealth or stock shares when I knew them and so they did not inherit wealth. Daughter is a doctor. Grandmother was a lot more like Chavez in the narrower eyes, spoke no english, and had no higher education but made the best darndest Empanadas when they were our neighbors.

    His mother’s side is Mestizo and they are darker(brown) skinned like us but not totally dark but brown skinned with more native looks than light skinned Spanish but not totally like the native population of Bolivia or Venezuela(Bolivia’s first native President is Morales: US will target them too) . The middle class is the one that is most upset for sure. I think the poor people never benefited even under Capitalism before Chavez. I commented about how the spending measures were based on oil being at $100 to $140 a BBL but then it crashed and the welfare measured suffered. Venezuela sadly has to import a lot of its food too; it failed to diversify. Those are different issues from a simple insight I posted. Let the intellectuals lecture to us about how great socialism is and how everyone gets a bowl of gruel and no one is hungry.

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    Even the Uncis (Indigenous grandmothers) of Venezuela know the USA is full of it.

    Did you know all 30+ Indigenous languages are official state languages in Venezuela, and that the Indigenous cultural and political rights are codified within the Venezuelan constitution drafted under Hugo Chavez?

    More Indigenous land has returned to Indigenous hands under the Bolivarian Revolution than at any other time in history since colonization. Not only that, when Indigenous peoples protested Chavez and Maduro for not halting the illegal mining operations by US and Canadian corporations, the state stepped in on their behalf.

    I was home recently and a Lakota relative told me, “We love Hugo Chavez for what he did for us.” Since 2007, Citgo, the Venezuelan state-owned oil company, has been subsidizing heating on Northern Plains reservations, like mine, during harsh winters. The program has also helped thousands of poor Black, Chicanx, and white families, because the United States refuses to help our people.

    And now we fight the USA’s oil war to strangle Venezuela and take its oil by drilling and building oil infrastructure on Indigenous lands in North America. The oil boom has dropped the price of oil crippling the Venezuelan economy (combined with sanctions) which has launched the USA to dominate global oil production.

    We owe it to our relatives in Venezuela to fight the empire here so that they may finish their revolution and that we may have ours.

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      Thanks for the words of sanity.

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    In theory Marxism-Socialism looks not merely just but utopian. This is probably why Oxford-Cambridge and other leading universities in England produced many academics who felt seduced by this exciting idea in the 1930-1960s. That included many of our bright young men of the time too. But once the actual stories and the socio-economic failures in the Soviet Union came to be known, the whole debate took a new complexion. It was then clear the Soviet Union and her unwilling satellites were nothing but open prisons run by cruel dictators. Reagan and Gorbachev set all of them free in the late 1980s. Yet, people still remain in bondage in North Korea, Cuba and since of late, China and Vietnam.

    Nicholas Maduro’s inhuman behaviour is evidence Venezuela is held in chains by armed force. Maduro and his former friend Hugo Chavez bled a once oil-rich country to the ground through their foolish socialist policies. This cannot last. Even Cuba is releasing its grip – gradually.

    Sadly, we have men in this country still doing their personal politics living on the ignorance of the masses. That Russia, China and Vietnam opened up in recent times is an admission of the failure of Marxism-Socialism – which remains discredited and outdated.

    Vanangamudi

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      V
      So it will be the Empire that will rule us and generations to come!
      I guess you are happy with that prospect?

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      Author says:
      “Guys, ALL :I DID was share a Upper middle class PROFESSIONAL Venezuelans thoughts about his own country”.
      One could listen to other voices for a change
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      The job is hard for the US imperialists because the Bolivarian government is relying on the much bigger poorer sections, who know the real cause of their misery and are defending their government.
      Even the army is with the people as it was after the 2002 US-backed coup.

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    Yes I remember that, Not only to native Americans, he was able to provide heating oil in New England to poor people. But you claim you are Native American? That is interesting. Then please write under your own name. I know Libya, Iraq and now Venezuela and next Iran are all nations USA has targeted for destablization. That was not the topic. Topic was giving insider information to the CT’s Sri Lankan emigre’s who write here like your self. Are you Lakota? I had a few Native American students in Oklahoma . Which Chris? Chris R the star IT entrepreneur or Chris as in one of my former students? Thanks and there is no general disagreement. CITGO once was the station we pumped gas in. A top Office of CITGO was in Tulsa and they used to be big partners with our business school IT program. Some of their top guys left after the disasters. Not even sure where CITGO is now in the USA. But problem is state control leads to utter rank inefficiency. Not to say I am gullible mate: I see lots of rural poverty in Native American areas, Kentucky, WVA, and even in big cities. Homeless exist everywhere in big cities in the US and healthcare issues are serious in old poor coal country among rural whites who for some reason love Trump who has really shafted t them. SBarrakum does not sound native american. I had a student once named Kenya Blackgoat. and one of my TA’s was 1/8th Choctaw or some tribe like that in OK(not Cherokee) and was getting her allowance for it from the casino income distribution. I digress mate. If it is Chris R, say hi to him.

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      This was a copy and paste of a Lakota native

      I sbarrkum am a Sri Lankan citizen, not dual or permanent resident elsewhere.

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    SJ google to see who is Chavez father is?????? And believe it or not I saw him in the opening ceremony of the national sports event representing Chavez, who is paranoid to get out in public in his own country. He is well known as the man behind the scenes. I had visited the country a few times and spend extensive periods there . I have also known families for decades who are very close to us. Venezuela is another North Korea where the country was under Iron grip and no truth came out other than propaganda of government media.(just like in Lanka which RETARDED Lankans are very familiar and believed as nothing but truth) But the social media has opened the flood gates now and the world is gradually realizing the true facts of SOCIALISM. It is like Homeopathy , the country where originated has banned and not practicing it but Lankans and Indians are still going to homeopathy to treat heart attacks and strokes???? That goes to show how knowledgeable Lankans are. People can fact check and come to their conclusion about oil industry/ PDVSA , artificially managed currency, socialism in Venezuela and how screwed they are right now. I was also active in stock market and did my home work on BLACK GOLD , before investing on my own.(only fools do invest on hearsay and hype)This helped in learning about Total,Shell, Statoil,BP Chevron and other joint ventures. PDVSA was one time within the first five giants in the sector, which is now bankrupt because of SOCIALISM. My Foot.

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    I will like to hear from the author , his comments on Chavez Family, Maduro and the role of socialism in Venezuela. Then we can see the commonalities to our Rajapaksa and Bandas. The authors of “How To Screw A Country in the name of so called Socialism”.

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    SJ, the flag bearer of socialism, PLEASE read before you comment. I said , Venezuela was under the grip of Chavez family and now Maduro. Dosent say anywhere “Chavez continuing his family rule”.
    ( Refer Emil,s English Primer for help). Now I will try explaining in Lankan style may be that will help you to understand this simple English.. Our shit hole was under the grip of Rajapaksa family (MR,GR,BR,Shiranthi, Namal) and now MS (who is a proxy). GOT IT. Only you will know whether both families have any connections, I dont and I care less.

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    Sbarrkum, Good to hear the opinion from a native. Thanks but in my humble opinion , Chavez did try a lot of gimmicks to stay in power ( just like the rest of the socialist called MR and Banda from Lanka, if you have not heard these names by now). Let me ask you a question. Right now if we ask the common people in Venezuela (not just the indigenous ones) of their collective opinion about Chavez , his rule, his policies, socialism in general , Maduro and the role of US in current state of country, what do you think will be their answer?????? Any guesses. Mano it is true the US belongs to the natives and the rest are invaders who took over ownership by force . This is true in most other countries too, including Australia and our own Lanka. At least (except Lanka) there has been attempts to correct course which unfortunately did not help much in uplifting these communities. The reason I believe is, it takes both parties to work towards same goal and that is not happening at least in the US. The natives who were elected to represent these communities have not had the will and commitment in doing so. Blaming my great great grand father for my alcoholism will not help with my recovery??????

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      The last thing tat the US would dare accuse Chavez and Maduro of is family rule.
      Search outside the box to know the truth..

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    Mano rathwatte states he went to co op society with his driver to buy food on ration card. what a joke, what a joke (I was also in that queue standing for 2 hours, did you stay for 2 mins?)

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      Perhaps the driver did.

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      Mate, I WALKED accompanied by the family driver who was more of a caretaker. I was not trying to impress anyone mate. Sorry JVP types. I repeat walked to the place. I stood in queue and the lady was obviously angry. Decided to take it out on me. Not to worry mate, we were used to that. No white vans or batalanda mate.

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    In CT the comments are not published in a timely order. Some early comments get into very late. Not a issue at all. So I just read sbarrkum second response to Mano. So sbarrkum please ignore the comments addressed to you. I did not realize, I was addressing one of our own. And copy/paste are opinions of the unknown. I prefer sticking to mine and not quoting others . The truth is social media is mostly FAKE until otherwise proved. (fact checked ).

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      Ch
      If you study the way strings are structured on a webpage, you will discern order in what seems to be total disorder.
      The main string has responses addressed to the author.
      Then there are sub-strings, sub-sub-strings, sub-sub-sub-strings, and sub-sub-sub-sub….
      But, there is a system of hierarchy based on the time of origin within each string and all manner of sub-strings, each ordered in the way the main string is.
      *
      If people respond in one string to what they read in another there is confusion, unless you use a label.
      *
      You to stick to what you like.
      Others to stick to what they like.
      CT sticks to what it likes.
      We are all stuck.
      But
      obladi oblada life goes on….
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      If you are worried that social media is FAKE, take it easy and just keep off.
      I guess that one cannot eat the Fake and keep it.
      Perhaps, one could!

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    Amarasiri aiya
    You have put it all in one sentence.
    “The core problem with socialism is low productivity.”

    Soma

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      s,
      productivity for whom?

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