21 June, 2026

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Wanni Hathpaththuwa

By Helasingha Bandara

The consequential lull of the recent presidential and parliamentary elections may have been the cause of the lapse of my attention to Sri Lanka affairs for the past two years. The raging debate on the no-confidence motion on which the future of Sri Lanka impinged, has rekindled that interest. I have read a few good articles on that issue in the past couple of weeks.

Being inspired or offended by the use of ‘Wannihamy’, as the name of a certain commentator, I decided to write this piece. The purpose of the write up is not to analyse his/her comments per say or meant as a personal attack on him/her, but to draw attention to the authenticity of the name which has enormous sentimental value to me as I hail from Wanni Hathpaththuwa and belong to the people who bore such names.

After the early 70s such names were no longer fashionable and parents of that era selected different names for their children, to avoid bullying by their peers and society in general as such names had become old fashioned, rustic, obsolete, rather rural, and remote. Before this trend most men of the Wanni Hathpathuwa were, Wannihamys, Appohamys, Ranhamys, Menikhamys, Suddahamys, Kapuruhamys, Hethuhamys, Kirihamys, Mudalihamys and so on. If the commentator has adopted it as a nom de plume, it could be either with some connection to the people of Wanni Hathpaththuwa or with great sarcasm.

If mockery was the intention, here is some factual information and self-assertions to enlighten likeminded people. I have no knowledge as to whether Hamu preceded Hami or the reverse. Whichever the order, the name belongs to a clan with warrior mentality who ruled Wanni Hathpaththuwa. My heritage taught me those facts when I was a young man in my twenties. I am no historian to explain things with such accuracy like A. Suddahamy who wrote the book “Demala Hathpaththuwa Nam Wu Hathpaththuwe Rata” which contains specific facts to support my knowledge that was passed to me by my parents and relatives. Darshanie Ratnawalli may be able to add some factual insight into the history of Wanni Hathpaththuwa and its rulers.

Wanni Hathpaththuwa is a real place that exists in Sri Lanka although the term ‘Wanni’ is used for different areas with different connotations. The modern North Western province was the old Sath koralaya: Demala Hathpaththuwa, Wanni Hathpaththuwa, Devamedi Hathpaththuwa, Dambadeni Hathpaththuwa, Weudawilli Hathpaththuwa, Hiriyala Hathpaththuwa and Katugampola Hathpaththuwa. Demala Hathpaththuwa which includes both Kumara Wanni Hathpaththuwa and Raja Wanni Hathpathuwa is the only one out of the seven that was separated later as the Puttalam District where as the rest of the six Korales still remain within the Kurunegala District. The subject Wanni Hathpaththuwa has Nikaweratiya as its capital while belonging to the Kurunegala district. Wanni was once defined by Kandubodagama Seelananda Maha Thero, the then chief prelate of the Yapahuwa Raja Maha Viharaya, as a derivation of the term Warnaneeya (meaning praiseworthy). Considering its natural beauty and the heroism of its people, shall we call it Warnaneeya Wanni Hathpaththuwa?

For the most part of history during monarchic rule, Wanni Hathpaththuwa had remained an autonomous principality for its geographical location, dry weather and people who were known as aggressors, difficult to deal with and who had refused to pay royalties to the central kingdom. The Europeans kept away for the same reasons as well as the mosquitos. It has always been ruled by the Wanni Unnehes, Wanni Hamus/mys or Wanninayakas. In this respect Wanni Hamys, Unnehes or Nayakas had been the rulers and thus the royalty. They had represented the Wanni Hathpaththuwa at royal occasions at the kandy palaces on invitation by the king despite refusing to pay royalties to the king.

Let’s look at more recent times and analyse these Wanniyars. Semasingha Nawarathna Wanninayaka Mudiyanse became Hulugalle Maha Adhikarama, the great adigar of Hulugalla who was Mahaadhikarama for the whole country for some time. His descendants include Kavisena Herath (grandson), Ranjani Herath (great granddaughter, wife of Jayarathna Herath, a former minister of Parliament) and H.A. J. Hulugalle (former editor of Ceylon Daily News). Hulugalla is a small village about six kilometres from Nikaweratiya, an adjacent village to where I was born. Hulugalla is the name of the tank below which Semasingha Nawarathna Wanninayaka Mudiyanse built his house and adopted the name Hulugalla. We must be historically related as it happens that my mother’s name starts with Semasingha Nawarathna and extends to Situ Bandaralage Kumarihamy. It cannot be a coincidence. Hulugalla is one of the famous five rock tanks built by King Mahasena: Hulugalla (sulu gala or small rock), Magalla (maha gala or large rock), Kirindigalla (rock full of Kirindi trees), Madagalla (rock in the mud), Atharagalla (rock in between) and all of them are situated in or around Wanni Hathpaththuwa.

In addition to the names of Wanni suffixes they are all Bandas (Herathbanda Wanninayaka, a former Minister, Ukkubanda Wanninayaka, a former Finance Minister, Herathbanda Aberathna, former Minister, Puncibanda Jayasundara former Treasury Secretary), Mudiyanses (Mudiyanse Tennakoon of Podiputha fame), Dissanayakas, Abesinghas, Wijekoons, Semasinghas, Nawarathnas and Tennakoons. It is appropriate to add some famous Bandas to this list as a myth buster. They are Tikiribanda (Rajasingha 1, the greatest warrior of the modern Sri Lanka history) Dingiribanda (Former President), Kiribanda (Former Speaker/Sports Minister), Dingiribanda (Mohottalage Dingiribanda, former Minister), Dingiribanda Welagedara (former Minister) Punchibanda Meedeniya (of Irangani Meedeniya/Serasingha fame), Ranbanda Madugalle, Ranbanda Senavirathna, etc.

My assertion is that people from the old British colonies have the subservient mentality to assume that those who know English are better than others. This is more prevalent among the people who directly benefited from foreign rule and held various positions under the colonial masters. Other people, particularly people in Europe and those who have learnt without the influence of the colonialists, do not attach any greater importance to those who can handle the English language. English is just another language and is not rocket science. Anyone can learn it given the right opportunity. Possessing the knowledge of it does not make any difference to a person’s real value in terms of honour, respect, dignity and contribution to society. My attempt is not to undermine the status that the English language holds as an international Lingua Franca nor is it to underestimate the benefits one can reap if they know English. Simply to point out that the ability to handle that language does not make anyone a better human being in any sense.

It is obvious that Wanni people refused to work under the foreigners and they battled against foreign rule. Sath Koralaye Satana of the modern era and the negating of South Indian invader advances beyond Yapahuwa, Hiriyala and Anamaduwa electorates in the bygone era are some heroic deeds that the historians have failed to attach due importance and give credit to those people of Wanni Hathpaththuwa, Hiriyala Hathpaththuwa and Demala Hathpaththuwa. The consequence of their refusal to accept foreign rule, their language, religion and culture was that they were denied opportunities to take part in Sri Lanka’s modernisation. This affected their social and economic status but not their honour, respect or dignity.

Dear Mr. Wannihamy, in my view those names are great and those who had them served the country or at least their region with respect and dignity. Adopting such a name has raised your profile regardless of your intentions. Inadvertently or advertently you have come into the midst of greats.

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    Amazing Photo. Even Natives are used to promote humongous EGO. ‘LAst tinme, buddhists tempels, and Mahanayakes were humiliated and this time poor Veddas.

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      Helasingha Bandara ,

      RE: Wanni Hathpaththuwa

      Thanks for the write-up, that gives a glimpse of the recent history in the area of the Paras, who have come from India, Bharat, Damba-Diva, during earlier times.

      A nice picture of four Native Veddah Aethho, (for show to the Paras), and a whole bunch of Paras (Para-deshis, foreigners) who are observing the Native Veddah Culture show.

      Let’s get the facts straight. All are Para, except the Native Veddah Aethhio in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho, “Aethho-Desh”. They displace the Native Veddah Aethho from their habitat, and pushed them further from the lands they lived from 8,000 to 30,000 years.

      Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations

      https://www.nature.com/articles/jhg2013112

      Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.

      The Vedda Tribe

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f89NuukY32U

      Tamil-speaking Veddas of Vaharai await war recovery support

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeFCuZwexRw

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        Thanks, Amarasiri for the videos.
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        I think that we must pay more heed to these people. Most of us Sinhala people have been finding ways of rationalising away the need to take them seriously.
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        Obviously my own experience of them is limited, but I think that I must work on that bit that I know . . . .

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    See the faces riding behind Mahinda Rajapakse.They all become RAVI the LIAR if they were given the opportunity. So, you say,I di dnot reead the article, After the PALHORU#3 it will be again PALHORU #1. What a way to go.

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    At last! Native Veddah gets his picture on CT.

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      Taraki

      They are the show Veddahs, they believe in “There’s No Business Like Show Business”. In that picture you see them protesting the presence of the Dr Mahinda.

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      Don’t be so gullible. Native Veddha in this forum is a disgruntled Tamil or a Muslim masquerading as a Native.

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        Retarded loony women sniffing shameless Perer-ass.

        Today you are indulging in a as a socio- anthropological investigator, another Walter Mitty’s fantastic daydreams.

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    Mr. Helsingha Bandara: He used that name beczause he liked it, besides, it ishis USER ID. there is no face to face meeting except for some. Why you got upset with the COLONIAL MENTALITY of the people. Becuse, remember rurual sinhala peoole who were farmers were considered to be illiterate, gamayas by the Tamils who had favourations from the Mudliars (Sinhala , tamil and Probably Muslim too, Kalusuddhas, Bandara is Tamil mudliar, JRJ is muslim to begin with). So, Sri lanka had the notion, that englsh soeakg people, those who were wearing european cloths were better for the marraige for their daughter. Do you remember or have read that past. Otherwise, One I think Bernard Shaw who said, If Sanskrit were not available how could have we lived with an inncomplete language like english. Sanskrit, Alanguage for thriveda educated Brahmins, is derived from Maghadhi while Prakreet or Pal, there after sinhala are all dereived fromthe Same Maghadhi Maghdadi and Pali are Laypeoples’ version of Learning buddhism. So, itiis applicable to every one except the educated. Evenin Sri lanka, inthose days, the educated were only the bhikkus mostly. So, why di dyou feel INSECURE. Politicians are DUMB IDIOTS. IT is well know since, evenbefore the independance american church, Anglican church, Catholic church ran the country. since 1948, american eambassy, british embassy andIndian embassy ranthe country. Even recently, SL american embassy released news saying we had good relations for 70 years. the point is what is important is english and tamil and not sinhala. Muslims are trying hard to bring Arabic. Sinhala customs and every thing is obsolete, primitive and there are better things. Itis not the five precepts what are important, PArty, Alcohol,women, brothels, Casinos. This is a short comment. so have fun. Becareful about HIV AIDS and so many other STDs. Those medications are very expensive inthe west if it is to be imported. Change your name to some western name.

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    HElasinghe Bandara: I forgot to right. Understand. that India fought for it’s independence.Sri lanka was given Beczseu al the respurces from Srilankan had been taken away and Nothing more to take, Once they abadan their East IOndia-burma company, Srilanka is nothing. besides by 1850,Britian was bankrupt I heard. anyway, Hindians like every thing DESI. Sri lanka doe snot have that sentiment. They always go for imported stuff. To go with that, Foreign countreis influencing us come and say we give it cheap, We can give you a better product, so our politicians like to import. The other reason is Imports are attached to Commis. that happens all over the world done by western countries.but, if that happens among they they some times Prosecute saying unfair trade practices. On the other hand, Sri lanka Imprit Rice and coconut too. coconut is also an imported plant. May be rice and Mallum were our food (WE have lot of Indian influence though). YOu also like imported food. Sri lankan had been said and Sri lanka practices it and had been asked to import rice (they have sticky rice) from vietnam. I think by IMf. Because, imports happens via intenationalized dollar and that gives some transaction fee to the owner of the money.

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    Mr. Helsainghe Bandara: by mistake I wrote some comments under Thushara who predicts Ranil will be the next PResident.

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    This guy id new Paid Propagandist from Jaffnahistory.com.

    There is no dispute until now it was Tamil Pandara Vanniyan a chieftain who fought against foreign occupation. Sankiliyan was fist, then Wickrama Rajasingan are two king with full kingdoms fought with Europeans. Sinhalese just handed over Kotte, Supplied mercenaries to capture Jaffna and fought along English to have Wickrama Rajasingan captured and Kandyan accord signed. This is New Mahawamsa we are reading, here now.

    Ka(a)mi is Tamil name for woman, Kaman is Tamil name for man. Kaman & Kami are a names, but “-kami” is a suffix for one who in love. It is similar to “-dasa” surfix. It is Tamil style to differentiate Men by adding “N” sound to their names. The Most famous TN Temple’s goddess name is Sivahami. Chidambaram exists for more than 1500 years, even before Mahawamsa was composed in Pali. This is available in Tamil, Sanskrit and Pali equally too. Those Languages use those names to point their gods too. Kaman is Angel Eros.
    Pandari is one of the highest castes in within Tamil Hindus. Vellala Hindus must address a Pandari “Aiya- Sir” a, similar addressing style to a Brahmin. Because of their Castiel status, they are many time involved Royal and governmental matters. The words Pandithan and Pandari are originating from the same base, “Padi-Padippu”. These are in pure and clean Tamil forms; neither Sanskrit nor Pali is mixed in them. All Tamil and Sinhala Vanni names having suffixed and prefixed of -panda are originated from Tamil only.

    Vanni is dry land. But Vanniyar is ruling caste name in TN. Mahavamsa is recognizing Tamil Chieftains ruling the dry lands in the middle, during the Dutugemunu -Elara war, but not naming them as Vanniyar. Mahavamsa could have purposefully avoided it or the name is less than 1000 years old.

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      Dear Mallaiyuran,
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      Everything that is here refers to what is less than a thousand years old. The oldest reference is this:
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      The Europeans kept away for the same reasons as well as the mosquitos.
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      Please look at all that you see here in that context. It is only quite good-hearted we-we (api-api) banter among sections of those of us who use the Sinhalese language, and it appears to be mostly a re-counting of the folk-lore that the writer had heard.
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      My own knowledge of any history before I was born has com from two sources – from what other (usually older) people told me, and from my reading.
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      The Mahawamsa is a very subjective account that has done a lot of harm. I’m pretty sure that 2,000 years ago there weren’t two clearly distinct groups known as Sinhalese and Tamil.
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      My own conviction is that Elara (or Ellala) was one of the noblest Kings we ever had. I wonder what religion he subscribed to. I’m also quite sure that neither you nor I would understand the language that either spoke.
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      Even Mr Wannihami seems to have agreed that this is banter; but it is an important assertion of the right of each person to be proud of his personal heritage as recounted by those around him. So, it asserts your right to live unmolested in your geographical area.

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        ” I’m also quite sure that neither you nor I would understand the language that either spoke.”

        About 5000 years ago Indus Valley Civilization was gone. There were many explanations of how that happened and what happened to their culture, language, religion, inventions………. . The Western Researchers said whatever that could be, but the 100% of the modern Indian culture is something introduced by Aryans about 3000 years ago. They said Sanskrit was brought to India and it is the Mother of all civilized languages. Little by little the question of “where did they go” is being answered as they are Dravidians, Tamil, Hinduism and almost all old astronomy, advanced mathematics. What is that saying is completely killing a well perversely spread out culture, even after 5000 years, is not possible. When there are no evidence of any unnatural, unimaginable disaster has happened, anything stated in 1500 years ago has not gone anywhere from Ceylon. For us, to come to a decision that there was a fourth language existed in Ceylon and that can be completely non-comprehendible to us is not practical.
        About 100 years ago TN Tamil had a heavy mixture on Sanskrit and few Pali words. Even a writing version had developed called “Manipravalam” – a 50%:50%Tamil Sanskrit writing. Now they have returned back most of the original language.
        Ceylon Tamil is highly pure form Tamil. Sinhalese is Tamil, Sanskrit, and Pali. Sinhalese has been built on Tamil Grammar. So far no researcher has done putting together, identifying and isolating its words and dialects of a fourth language that was present in Ceylon. In contrary, assuming the inhabitants left behind in civilization to Balangoda time until Mahanama came is another fault.
        You know how the truth can be falsified. Lankawe government proved in UNP, in 2009, it’s had carried out a humanitarian rescues mission with Zero Casualty. Ten years after, in 2018, Old King feared even to deliver a speech in his own NCM. Resolution 30/1 is asking stop of the lies of Aanduwa and tell the truth.

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          Dear Mr Mallaiyuran,
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          We are rushing in where angels fear to tread. I’ve not referred to any fourth language which was distinct from Sinhalese and Thamil!
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          Before we go further, may I ask whether I can illustrate what I’m trying to say by using the language that is now helping you and me to communicate – i.e. English?
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          Before proceeding further, dear Mallai, may I respectfully request that you assent – by actually making a comment to that effect. This is not any sort of challenge; rather it is an effort to win your co-operation.
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          In my case it is true to say that English is the language that I know best. My profession has been teaching English. Those just happen to be facts. May I do that, please?
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          Please plot Mr Helasingha’s Bandara’s development by reading his article on Prof Halpe When we entered the University in 1982, my English was already good, his was very poor. By now, it may be that certain aspects of his English must be better than mine since he has lived in England for 29 years. I’ve never been out of Asia. But over-all, it makes no sense for Helasingha and me to enter an English competition – not at this age!
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          As for Sinhalese, he’s written articles in the language – and he tells me that he knows quite a bit of Tamil.
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          My intention is not to generate heat, but to shed light on how languages change and evolve.
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          Now to prove my credentials to you: I’ve talked about Prof Charles Ponnathurai Sarvan. Same date, but that was written about 18 hours ago.
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          Please also look at his current article. I’ll re-copy the link:
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          https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/on-shaping-the-other/
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          Please let us be friends!

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            This is not the first time in two races in conflict. All spices structured to live on competing for resources. As man is an academically learning animal, these aspects multiply in dimensions and the competition become more aggressive and devastating. So the wise teachers, from the time before history, had taught man peace and the Human being has been most successful specie on the earth because of its co-existence and sharing the resources with each other. But on the other side, the reality is, the bare call of “let’s make peace or be friend with me” is not known to solve problems. UN has recognized the unresolvable differences can be resolved only by the races going on their independent paths. European Union is trying to set an example of how to unite the different countries by putting the resources in one common pool. But UN divided Yugoslavia, East Timor, and South Sudan… We are with the Sinhala Government on its stand on the Palestinian problem being settled by establishing their state. We understand Ranil’s standoff with American Ambassador when ambassador tried to explain their path on establishing Jerusalem Embassy.
            Tamils are not proposing seclusion when they ask for their land. In reality Tamils are well aware the of the need of interaction with the international community and that will be the only solution to re-build their economy which is destroyed by turning Tamils ancestral land to Sahara desert by Chinese built bombs. Tamils are asking for their land, only to rule them, protect them, but not to lift it up and fly away from the earth.
            We are not asking a land, where, unlike it happened in Australian or American Continents, we didn’t live. We are not wiping out in hundreds of thousands of innocents to occupy another’s’ land and drain their resources.

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            Our ways are, ever from Sinhalese started to occupy us from foreign forces, never has been contradictory to international standards or norms. We are not breaking any international practices or we are not doing anything any other race to point at us that we are creating enmity.
            During Portuguese time, Negombo area’s converted Sinhalese became Christians as Silvas and Fernandos. During Dutch times Colombo Sinhalese married European and became Cort Van or Janze. But it is Tamils, during British time, while keeping their ID, learned to get along with Colonist and served them. They never became Don Juan or Ehelepola, Old King or Ranil who all sold their land to foreign rulers to collect and put money in their pockets.
            The history of Ceylon was, Tamils studying Sinhala and English and served the entire country, as foreign exchange earning estate workers, as government servants, as traders conducted business in every corner of the Island. In fact, pls let me tell here how the Tamils laugh at them of their, this nature: “Kakam paravatha Idamum Illai, Karai Nagarar Thiryatha Idamum Illai”. It is constructed in slang language, tells there is no corner the crow doesn’t fly and there are no place Karai Nagar Traders miss to open a trade. For all these, there was not one single business was opened and given to Tamils, those days, by the British colonial government as a favor to Tamil. These uneducated, rural entrepreneur minded traders, wouldn’t write a word in Tamil, nor was able to utter a word in English, went from North to South, counted in Sinhala, billed in Sinhala and traded with Singhalese .

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            If the argument is what Tamils did by studying English under British rule can be done by Indian Pakistani Citizenship Act, MMDA, Sinhala Only, or with Standardization, then why the richest country in hemisphere has sold the Colombo Pong Cing or Hangbangtota to settle the Chinese loan? UNP is blaming SLFP for Colombo Pong Cing, SLFP Blaming UNP for Hangbangtota. Tell me pls, which would be your choice to sell and settle the loan, if you support either of them? Tell me why, even after the third constitution and 20 amendments, still, the democratic values in the constitution could not be upheld like in one that was created by Ivor Jennings and Soulbury 70 years ago? In your opinion, I know that Sinhala is as equal as English as a language, but what is the difference between a British-man and Sinhala-Man? Hey Proud Sinhala-Man tell me please, why those two British employees’ one time job couldn’t be matched by a whole country over 70 years of time, if it is only something writing in English or Sinhala?

            I could have come into CT as Tamil-Man. That pseudonym was not occupied in CT that time. It would have provoked many. If I needed enmity, it could have delivered that wish. I followed the Tamils’ custom which exists from Sangam time. Tamil poets and writers, when they wanted to maintain humbleness, only identify their birth place, not the name.

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            We never heard the history that is appearing in CT these days. Putting forward our side of justification is not provocative, but though it may hurt dominant mentality. But with any kind of sugar coating, writing bogus history as Tamil begged the favor from Colonist by studying English is the provocation and creating enmity. That alone tells what kind of friendship the writers and the supporters these are looking for. Our comments appearing under another comment is not meant that is only for the above comment or for that commentator only. We don’t write comments to create enmity. (In fact, for long time, I wrote comments, in common, without mentioning commentators IDs. But eventually I settled to adopt CT’s practice, mentioning names)
            Friendship develops by mutual understanding and believes on each other. If we believe each other, we don’t have to declare as “We are Friends” and cheat each other like politicians. If it is crystal clear to each of us our standing, our perspective we will recognize each other’s independence to comment. It need not to necessarily provoke enmity or foster friendship.

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              Dear Mallaiyuran,
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              I’m not sure what you’re trying to convey, but I’ll go ahead and make my observations on the extent to which languages evolve at the very bottom, since what you have said seems to be unconnected.
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              As for my calling myself “Sinhala_Man” for the umpteenth time may I state that I wanted to convey to the World that many guys so described are are moderate in their thinking, which ought to re-assure you, and at the same time get the message across to the few extremists on my side that more rational outlooks are possible and desirable.
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              You have accepted the need to interact – but only with the (Tamil?) diaspora. Actually people tend to forget that there’s a huge Sinhala diaspora as well – Helasingha also being a member! But at least he wants to come home. To quote Helasingha from a comment below, “only humanity matters”.
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              Mallaiyuran, THIS country is your home and mine!

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                I have put some long comments at the bottom. Meanwhile, I’ve come across this interesting book review. I wish we could use some of the ideas developed there to help us come together once more in this country:
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                http://tamilnation.co/books/Eelam/indrapala.htm

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                Please actually click on that! We’ve got to be open to new ideas, and actually learn from others, not try to force our set ideas on the World.
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                We’re bound to fail in that.

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              Dear Mallaiyuran,
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              What I was wanting to write was something on the ways in which all languages tend to change. Since what I’ll try to write will strive to be of general interest, I will post not here, but below what is currently at the bottom of the comments.
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              Thanks for your observations.

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      Mallaiyuran,

      Pandara Vanniya is a word concocted by you people It has no historical backing. It is evidently clear the original name of that person was Bandara Vanniya. A Sinhalese person. Bandara is a Sinhalese title granted to a person of royal decent.

      Do you even know the history of Kandyan kingdom? Please don’t come here to spread Bullshit. There are people who knows the history better than you.

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        Shenal,

        Dwelling a in CT a lot these days? NCM was a sour grape for Lankaweb contributors? Hang around; beyond the Rapist Army’s interrogative adverbs “where, when,who, what,how” there are lot to learn in English, though I cannot guarantee of an old dog learning a lot of new tricks even in CT, where intelligent and thought provoking comments flare on each other.

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        Shenal,
        “There are people who knows the history better than you.”
        Yes, and there are also people who think the Mahavamsa was written in Sinhala.

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          Old codger, people who know the history better than others still believe that a male lion cohabited with a human female to produce the Sinhala progeny, and Buddha made three non stop flying visits from Gaya to Sri Lanka landing in Adams peak.

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          old codger,

          Worst. There are people who takes Mahavansa literally.

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            Shenali

            “There are people who takes Mahavansa literally”

            And have made it part of school curriculum.

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        Shenali you are ignorant about facts. There is a Vanniyar caste in Tamil Nadu mainly in southern regions. This caste is not found in Sri Lanka. Word Vanni is not found in any other language than Tamil. Pandaram is a caste in Tamil who work in Temples as poosaris and helpers. (There is no letter “B” in Tamil and hence written with “P”). There is no word called Bandara in Sanskrit. The word Bandara in Hindi, Bengali and Indonesian refers to port city derived from Persian word Bandar. Therefore Bandara used in Sinhala has been derived from Tamil. The title Bandara may have been given to people connected to Kandyan royalty, but they were essentially palace guards. The ancestry of SWRD Bandaranayake may throw a light on this subject. There was a person called Neela Perumal of Pandaram caste in Tamil Nadu arrived in Sri Lanka to work as a head poosari (maha kapuwa) in Nawagamuwa Vishnu temple near Hanwela. Since he was the head (Nayaka in Sinhala) and a pandaram (Bandara in Sinhala) he took the name Bandaranayake. Sinhala language is in existence in Sri Lanka for just over 1300 years (even recent stone inscription in Sinhala discovered in Anuradhapura has been dated as such), many Sinhala words have been derived from Tamil which was in use much prior. Please come out of your racist mind set and accept the truth.

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          Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam,

          The South Indian Vanniyar cast has no historical connection with Sri Lankan Wanniyars. These South Indian Vannirars were low agricultural class. Sri Lankan Tamils have artificially propagated the idea that Sri Lankan Wanniyars are from South India to justify their claim to North and East.

          Similarly, The caste of Pandaram has no connection with Sri Lanka. “Bandara” in Sinhalese is a regal title given to a person with royal blood. It is not a caste or community. Besides that, if the word “Pandaraam” had come from Tamil; there is no way that Sinhalese should corrupt it to become Bandara. It should have called “Pandara” in Sinhalese too. Also, it is very intriguing that why does Sinhalese has a word which is not found in Tamil language as you people claim that Sinhalese originated from Tamil. Can you answer that?

          Again you are wrong here. The title “Bandara” is not unique to the Kandyan kingdom. It had originally originated from Kotte Kingdom as far as I am concerned. They were not only palace guards but also successors to the thrown as well.

          It doesn’t matter whether Tamils came before or after. There was no independent Tamil kingdom in Sri Lanka. You should accept that truth. Hence, a separate Tamil country.

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            Stop posting nonsense . This is not the Lanka Web to post your fairy tales

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandara_Vanniyan

            https://www.matrimonialsindia.com/hindu/pandaram-matrimony.htm
            Pandarar or Pandarams are a Tamil caste now some from the border region of Pallakadu speak Malayalam. It from these Tamil Pandarar the Sinhalese Banda/Bandara/Bandaranaicke/Bandaratilleke etc originated.
            You are just a nasty bigoted woman with a recent South Indian ancestry but full of anti Tamil venom.

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              Real Siva Sankaram Sharma,

              Bandara is not a caste in Sri Lanka. It is just a person’s name. It has no connection with the Tamil Pandarar lower caste.

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                Pandarar are a high caste ( they are Hindu temple workers and non Brahmin priests ) and do not mix them up with the Koviya Pandarams of Jaffna, who cook for the Vellalar

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                  Bandara : Son of a chief or nobleman, prince, a term used only in the Kandian provinces (Sinhala, Clough); prince, “Rāja kumārayā”; treasurer, “Bhāṇḍāgārikayā”; son of an up-country cultivation caste chief, “Uḍaraṭa govikulayē pradhānayangē putrayā” (Sinhala, Sorata); Baṇḍā: son, boy, youth, son of a chief (Sinhala, Clough); term to call a youth of the up-country cultivation caste, “Uḍaraṭa govikulayehi lamayinda kiyana nama” (Sinhala, Sorata); Bańḍārain: king (Dhivehi/ Maldivian, DBF); Paṇṭāri: a title of the Uṭaiyār (land owner) caste (Tamil, MTL); Paṇṭāram: treasury (Tamil, late Caṅkam diction, Paripāṭal, 11: 123); granary, government, a facility that is public or belonging to the State, (Tamil, MTL, there are many other shades of meanings from different etyma); princely title during the times of the Kingdom of Jaffna (Eezham Tamil); Bhāṇḍāgāra: treasury (Sanskrit, CDIAL 9442); traced to Bhāṇḍa: pot, dish, vessel, ornament, wares (Sanskrit, CDIAL 9440); Paṇṭam: belly, paunch (Tamil, DED 3898); various commodities (Tamil, Caṅkam diction, Maturaikkāñci, 81)

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            Shenali you are correct in saying Vanniyars in Tamil Nadu were peasants who worked in agricultural fields. That is why one of their leaders, Dr. Ramadas named his political party Pattali Makkal Kadchi (pattali means peasant, makkal means people and kadchi means party). Do you know that the family name (Ge name) of Champika Ranawake an outright champion of Sinhala Buddhist racism is Pattali. Why should he not take that family name if he has no connection to Tamil Nadu.

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            Shenali

            Let us all the details of your references

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    Native Vedda,
    Bruv , look like u r elders rajpakses balls carriers….

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      Jamis Muthu Banda Tamil Speaking Sinhalam

      “Bruv , look like u r elders rajpakses balls carriers….”

      Look carefully they were peacefully protesting the presence of Dr Mahinda and his official b***s carriers.

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    Mr. Helasingha Bandara
    A very interesting article.
    One particular name in your third para captured my attention.
    You have spelt (spelled) the name “Appuhamy” as “Appohamy”. Are all Appohamys from Wanni Hathpaththuwa? Can there be Appuhamys in the South? May be Appohamys have relocated in the South. Just curious.

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    Dear Helasingha,
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    Guys like me thought we knew what mattered in Sri Lanka, until you began to show us that what matters is “honour, respect, dignity and contribution to society”.
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    Before I responded to your article on Prof. Ashley Halpe,
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    https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/ashley-and-me/
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    I took a look at the articles that you had written earlier, and I was amazed at the wisdom you display. I did a similar search again, and am still amazed. Amazed at many things.
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    Here’s the whole country wondering how this foreign language should be taught, and you give us this revelation of how you did it. My Peradeniya memories of you were vivid, but each of us was busy doing his own thing, I guess. What we knew of each other was incomplete. As you’ve said, you began to learn the English language virtually from scratch in an English Department which wasn’t going to give you sympathy marks; you were obviously burning mid-night oil while being such a relaxed guy and good company during the day.
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    And now you use the language so well, better than those who started off almost in infancy. Yet, you can convincingly say, “English is just another language and is not rocket science.”
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    You’ve also written with such clarity about the Wanni – an area of this island that obviously matters a lot, a huge and productive area as well, but which most people I know are not sufficiently familiar with. I know that what I have just said has demonstrated my own limitations. I hadn’t even been reading Darshanie Ratnawalli. So, I must now try to learn much about my own country and its people.
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    PART TWO
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    What you have written challenges us to go back to what you have said at a time when few were reading your amazingly insightful articles because they were blocked by the censors. Few residing within the country would have bothered to explore proxy websites.
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    Yes, you’re right to start addressing the wider audience now. I may not be the only one who missed hearing your voice in those days leading up to the last Parliamentary Elections in August 2015. We thought we knew all that we needed to then. Now we suddenly realise that we still have much to learn of our real heritage. There’s much that I hope you will stimulate us in to exploring as we seek for ways out of the communalism that we are in danger of falling back in to.
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    What you have written shows that if we have real respect for our most authentic experiences, we will not become the nasty racists that so many become when not sure of what they are. You have made me realise that what matters is to be assured of our own value as human beings; then we know what we have to do to understand others.
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    In a very real sense, what you have said complements what has been written by Prof. Sarvan
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    https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/on-shaping-the-other/
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    Exploring there has also taken time. Let me hope that other readers come up with more perceptive observations, so that corrupt politicians will not succeed in making us forget what really matters.
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    So, my plea to all readers is to mark how balanced a human being can be, when he has his feet firmly planted in his heritage, but yet is coping with a confusing world. Skim through those earlier articles as well.

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    Aubovanda, Helesinghe Bandara Unnaha, what can I say, I am flabbergasted, you are reading my mind, as in:
    “My assertion is that people from the old British colonies have the subservient mentality to assume that those who know English are better than others. This is more prevalent among the people who directly benefited from foreign rule and held various positions under the colonial masters. Other people, particularly people in Europe and those who have learnt without the influence of the colonialists, do not attach any greater importance to those who can handle the English language. English is just another language and is not rocket science” Amen.

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    I saw something unusual in the use of the wrod Lingua Franca. I think is a family of language, more than one. Many words were added to English later. Even the words, Pandit, HenaKanda (aka Anakonda)

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    Dear Jim softy,
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    “Lingua Franca” merely means a “link language”. Even within Sri Lanka the Education Department’s stated aim is to teach English for that purpose. It has failed.
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    The “de facto” link language is Sinhalese; if the issue is not politicised it will “just happen” with no friction caused. If it is forced on Tamils, they will resist. Many lives have already been lost owing to this foolishness. And that is bound to continue.
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    At the same time, let us encourage our children to learn some Tamil to preserve our country as one. And let the State continue to reward (with a salary increment) those who learn and pass an elementary test in all three languages. It will not benefit me. Not only have I retired, but I don’t know any Tamil.
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    What I have recently read (in English) has convinced me that Tamil is much the older language, although it must have changed from what it once was. I have elsewhere illustrated, with links, that we cannot understand the English of a thousand years ago.
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    Your comments are such hit and run affairs; ones for which you take no responsibility. Re-read to see how many mistakes in your English, including those which the Spell Check would have identified.

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      Sinhala_Man,

      Tamils were very approved of forcing English language upon themselves. They never objected to English being forced upon them even after the independence. It is only when Sinhalese were made the national language that they get agitated. Isn’t it a shame that Tamils can at least understand the language of the majority people? Even after they claimed to live with us centuries past?

      Why should we Sinhalese are encouraged to learn Tamil where most of us would not find it practical enough to use it in real life. Isn’t it better if Tamils should be encouraged to learn the Sinhala language instead? It will enable them to come down south to find work as well.

      What good does it make being the one of oldest languages? Do we have to honor it for that? For what?

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        SHENAL: BE humble. LEarn Tamil. go and serve in the North. If you cannot live there ask Army protection. YOu may read at least Tamilnadu literature which has Indian influence.

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        I’d like to encourage the Sinhalese in general to learn English. Not forcing anyone.
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        So, Shenal, you needn’t, if you don’t want to, but please don’t campaign against other Sinhala people learning Tamil. It will not yield “practical” results for individuals. My view is that it will lessen tensions. Eliminating threats of civil commotion seems a HUGE benefit to me. You needn’t agree.
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        Even we venerate what is old – the Mahavamsa, for instance, is something that we can still restore to a position of pride -IF we place it in its proper context and stop imagining that it is the most objective history ever written.
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        I don’t know Tamil; I may even get irritated sometimes when I hear it! But it is seems to be true:

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        https://theculturetrip.com/asia/india/articles/the-10-oldest-languages-still-spoken-in-the-world-today/
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        https://www.indiatoday.in/education-today/gk-current-affairs/story/oldest-languages-839038-2016-12-20
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        Those are the first two results I got by Googling. There isn’t perfect agreement.
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        They will make Tamils happy, but cost me nothing to honour.
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        Better have happy Tamils than angry Tamils.

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          I’m sorry about the mistake in the first sentence, above. I meant to say:
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          “I’d like to encourage the Sinhalese in general to learn TAMIL. Not forcing anyone.”
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          Everyone desires English to start with. They are then faced with two problems:
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          FIRST: The language is HUGE. In the sense that so many use it world-wide in different ways (that means so many dialects); it has a huge vocabulary that behaves in different ways (often depending on the origin of the word); nobody is in control of the various aspects of the language such as grammar, pronunciation etc.
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          SECOND: A problem that appears peculiar to Sri Lanka: it is such a measure of social status that users get mortally scared to use it.
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          Those problems don’t operate for Tamil. Village kids seem to be thrilled that they find similarities with Sinhalese, and it doesn’t matter what mistakes are made.
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          But why should a Sinhalese learn Tamil? It brings no benefits. That may be why I never learnt it.
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          If, by teaching Tamil to all Sinhalese we ensure that there never will be civil commotion and war between the two groups, we will save such a lot of resources expended on maintaining armed forces, snuffing out promising young lives, paying compensation for arson etc.

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      Sinhala man
      I love reading your comments.
      Listen. This is about something else which I can’t fathom.
      Muslims don’t have any issue with our language, Sinhala. But they have serious issues of our religion, Buddhism.
      Tamils don’t have any issue with our religion, Buddhism. But they have serious issues of our language, Sinhala.
      Both Tamils and Muslims have no issue with the usage of English language or Christianity in Sri Lanka.
      What is your view on that?

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        Champa

        Why don’t you stop forcing the Muslims to love (convert to) Sinhala/Buddhism and stop pestering the Tamils to learn Sinhala.

        Why should anyone change their life, life style, religion, ……… to fit into the majoritarian agenda which in the past has spread hatred and conflict among the many communities. The Majoritarian agenda not only has back fired but has created a bunch of crooks, murderers, ……………….. who have been thriving under the cover of their new found Sinhala/Buddhist parochial nationalism/fascism.

        Its time you revisited your own past as well as the country’s past 70 year history.

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          Keyboard Vedda
          Who is “forcing” (?) Muslims to be Buddhists (sound super funny) or pestering (?) Tamils to learn Sinhala?
          I am asking if they can learn English which is a foreign language, why can’t they learn Sinhala, the local language?
          Again who asked who to change their life styles?
          What is majoritarian agenda? Never heard of that before.
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          According to US Statistics Bureau, by 2043, White Americans who are the original population, will become a minority. That means in 2044 America will become a majority-minority country. There is no reason for Sinhalese to be scared. Only thing is Sinhalese should seriously consider in having more children, at least 4 in a family. Now who is going to bear the expenses of raising two additional children? I think we need to address this issue now.

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            Champa

            “I am asking if they can learn English which is a foreign language, why can’t they learn Sinhala, the local language?”

            Don’t be stupid.
            Why should anyone learn Sinhala or Tamil as their second language? English is an International language, science, humanities, technology, ……………..it help to communicate research, development and commerce. How many international research journals does this island publish in a year? How important are they to the rest of the world.

            By building 100 of thousands of Sinhala/Buddhist vihares (on war victims’ graves) in the North East aren’t you forcing the Tamils, Muslims, Christians and Buddhists to convert to Sinhala/Buddhism? In the recent election manifesto UNP promised to build 1000 Sinhala/Buddhist Vihares.
            What was the purpose enforcing Sinhala only language policy from 1956 to 1987? Why should the official functionaries communicate in Sinhala with Tamil speaking people? Doesn’t it amount to language harassment? The ministries that deal with minority affairs employ Sinhala security guards who cannot communicate in Tamil.

            Isn’t Sinhala/Buddhisisation through back and front door?
            There are tourist places where donkeys are employed to deal with foreigners. Donkeys cannot speak in languages that tourist understand.
            Shove Tamil and Sinhalese wherever you see holes. Now Tamils speak Thanglish and Sinhalese speak Singlease.

            “Again who asked who to change their life styles?”

            No one ask anyone to change their life style however a new life style is being forced on to others by forcibly restructuring their livelihood, it starts with land grab, colonization with armed protection, ………………,

            “According to US Statistics Bureau, by 2043, White Americans who are the original population, will become a minority. “

            Do you believe white Americans were the original population?
            Which America did you mean?
            You should go back to primary school.

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        Champa you cannot fathom it because of your low IQ.
        Religions in Sri Lanka in order of Antiquity – Atheism, natural worship, Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, Catholicism, Protestant Christianity ( In future ? Confucianism)
        Languages in Sri Lanka in order of Antiquity – Elu, Tamil, Malayalam, Sinhala, Arabic, Persian, Portuguese, Dutch, English (In future ? Chinese, ? Hindi)
        What issues do you have with other languages or religions.
        So relax and watch events unfolding.

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          Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam
          Low IQ is still better than having no IQ like you.
          You failed to answer the question I raised.
          Why these two minorities in Sri Lanka have two different issues with us?
          Tamils only attack our language – Sinhala and Muslims only attack our religion – Buddhism but they both equally idiolize English and Christianity. Why? Is it because Sinhalese have a brown skin and the Sudda who introduced English and Christianity to Sri Lanka have a white skin?

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            Skin colour may have more to do than we would like to acknowledge.
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            English – it is THE World Language – however muddled and disorganised it may be.
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            As for Christianity, it seems to be taken seriously only in Third World countries. Elsewhere, we only hear
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            “Its melancholy, long, withdrawing roar,
            Retreating, to the breath
            Of the night-wind, down the vast edges drear
            And naked shingles of the world.”
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            Any idea who first said that, and when?

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          Of the languages you have mentioned only Sinhala is native to this island. All others are foreign.
           
          NB. Elu and Sinhala are one and the same language. Elu is nothing but an ancient form of Sinhalese, which is devoid of foreign loans, and it is called Elu Sinhala. Elu Sinhala simply means genuine Sinhala or “pure Sinhala” as opposed to Mixed Sinhala or “Mishara Sinhala”, which is the form commonly used. There is a huge of corpus of literature produced in Elu Sinhala (Helathuwa, Heladiv Abidana Vatha, Heladiv Rajaniya, Helu Kankhavitharaniya, Helu Getapadaya, Helu Dalada Vansa Kavya, Helu Da Ruvanakara, Helu Mahabodhi Vansaya, Helusuthra, Eluakaradiya, Elu Aththanagalu Vansaya, Elu Umanda, Elu Daladavansa Kavya , Elusandasa, Elu Sandas Lakuna, Elu Sandas Lakuna Sannaya, Elu Silowa, Elu Silo Sathakaya, Eluhathvanagalu-vanshaya to name a few). Tamils heard of Elu for the first time in the 19th century, when the British started their linguistic studies of the Sinhalese language and translated Sinhalese literary works into English, and then the Tamils started making all sorts of obnoxious theories about it. If Elu is some kind of mysterious Tamil dialect, why don’t you give an example of this mysterious Tamil dialect or any references to it in any ancient Tamil literature?

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        Champa,

        “Muslims don’t have any issue with our language, Sinhala. But they have serious issues of our religion, Buddhism.”

        (298Words)

        1. Muslims have no issue with languages, because accept languages as medium of communication and respect that. In fact there are Sinhala translations of the Quran, just like the Bible.

        2. “But they(Muslims) have serious issues of our religion, Buddhism.”

        There are several hypotheses.

        a) Buddhism started as a Philosophy and later turned into a religion that Worshiped (Venerated) Buddha, made images of him and Worshiped( Venerated) the images, including the trees. The conflict Muslims have is that, the core of Islam prohibits worshiping people (Buddha , images and trees, and it comes from the 10 Commandments given to Moses, Thou shall not worship graven images, besides Yahweh.

        b) Besides, the images of Buddha was the result of Greek influence, because the Greeks had images of their gods, and if Buddha was God, must have an image.

        c) However, most Muslim do not care about the images of the other people’s Gods, except of course the fundamentalists, like the Wahhabi-Salafis and their clones, ISIS, Taliban, Boko Haram etc. After all, the Bamiyan statues stood for 1,300 years before the Taliban blew it. Same story for many images in India under Muslim rule.

        d) The Sufis do not care much about the images, especially destroying the others images.

        3. “But they(Jews) have serious issues of our religion, Christianity.” say some Christians.

        Jews will not accept Jesus, another Jew , as God and as Trinity.

        3 Questions:
        a) How did life get started on Erath?
        b) When did life get started on Earth?
        c) How did it end with the current life, animals, humans, plants, bacteria and multiple species?
        d) How did the humans (animals?) acquire or not acquire souls?

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        Dear Champa,
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        May I give my personal views at the bottom of the pile of comments as it now exists?
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        It will be useful to split every one of those groups in to two:
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        1. The Conservatives (let’s agree to avoid words like “Fundamentalist”, “Extremists”, “Terrorists” etc. “Orthodox” may not be so dangerous, but let’s just stick to Conservative).
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        2. The Liberals – let’s hope that some fanatics don’t castigate them as “secular”, “uncommitted”, syncretistic, indifferent etc.
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        I’m taking the risk of saying things only because you seem to be in a loving and tolerant mood. How can anybody possibly answer those questions!

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      Sinhala Man: This is noahter Definition for the same: Lingua franca, (Italian: “Frankish language”) language used as a means of communication between populations speaking vernaculars that are not mutually intelligible. The term was first used during the Middle Ages to describe a French- and Italian-based jargon, or pidgin…
      As far as I know, Tamil as you said modern english, is a modern dialect came from Dravidean languages. Sinhala’s ancient languages are Hela, Pali, Prakeeth and Maghadhi is the oldest language. It is very true. the govt had language barriers when you had a govt job. If you pass Tamil, as a Sinhala employee, or if you passed sinhala as a Tamil employee, they got salary increases. I know some Yapanaya Tamils who were struggling because they did not mingle with Sinhala people. Sinhala schools should have tamil tamil teaching including vernaculaer tamil.

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        Thanks, Jim softy.
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        You’ve got the etymology right.
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        I was giving you the commons sense view.
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        I think that you’re also right about what applies in certain areas of government service. It’s sensible.
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        That said, government service is not as important as it was. What we need is relaxed, unforced, unselfconscious trilinguism throughout the country.

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    Ayubowanda Wannihamy Nilame;
    I am delighted that we are in an alliance.
    Sinhala Unnehe is also contributing magnanimously to the ideal. We are one and only humanity matters, nothing else.
    Helasingha

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      Helasingha Unnehe and Other Unnehes

      3 Questions:
      a) How did life get started on Earth?
      b) When did life get started on Earth?
      c) How did it end with the current life, animals, humans, plants, bacteria and multiple species?
      d) How did the humans (animals?) acquire or not acquire souls?

      Just curious as to your understanding, as there are different beliefs and opinions.

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    Dear Champa;
    My hat off (I actually wear a hat most of the time) to you for your great observant skill. It is the same name whichever the way it is spelt. I meant to say that such names were pretty common in the Wanni Hathpahthuwa, not to say that they are not found anywhere else. If the legend that Wijaya has landed in Thammenawa is true, gradual migration towards the south and more fertile areas of the island should have started from the areas closer to the landing point. People must have settled in our areas before migrating to other areas. It is the same people and thus have taken their names and heritage with them. That again proves that we are one.

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    Dear Helasingha
    Thank you. Your article is like a breath of fresh air. I am fed up with reading political articles. Please write more about Sinhalese. It will make both Sinhalese and non-Sinhalese know who we are.
    ……………………………………..
    There was an article in a newspaper about our Sinhala New Year and the preparation of our traditional sweetmeats such as Kevum, Kokis. There was a comment presumably from a non-Sinhalese. He requested the newspaper to not publish such “racist articles” as Sri Lanka is a multi-cultural country. It hurts me more than I could say. Forget about our long cherished history. But the thought that Sinhalese are even losing their right to publish an article about the most important annual cultural festival, terrifies me. I am not criticizing anybody. Freedom of expression is a fundamental human right. But to what extent?
    …………..
    I love reading articles about our history, Buddhism, cultural heritage, ancient kings and kingdoms, tanks and stupas they built, folklore, people, customs, rites, rituals, traditions, values, irrigation and agriculture which always refreshes my mind and gives a sense of pride.
    …………….
    There was a fine article by Chandra about the need to have good men and women in our society but I still couldn’t write a comment in support of his noble thoughts.

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    Multiculturalism is what Sri Lanka have, unfortunately some or the other groups can only be happy if either the majority or a minority group is suppressed, which is an extremely negative sentiment, what is needed is to appreciate and respect difference while understanding that integration and multiculturalism can co-exist.
    To say we are one is disingenuous, we all love our own children more than we love our neighbor’s children and similarly as we radiate from I to others our attachment decreases. To be one we need intermarriages between ethnic groups and this island is far from that. To be one Tamils should be free to live anywhere in the country and Sinhalese too, the island is not even close that. To be one the island need one judicial system, not MMD Act, Thesawalami law, or Kandyan law in addition to the common law of the country. No we are not One, there are differences, and what we need is to accept, respect those differences and reach out the minorities AND the majority. No one can shake hands with just one hand.

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      wannihami,

      Multiculturism has failed through out the world. Just look at Sweden, France, Germany, England. These countries are falling their social fabrics for being multi cultural. In fact Sweden is heading towards to become a third world country. However, the largest victim of the multiculturism is South Africa. Very recently, their (black) defense minister had called the black people to kill white minority population. The Afrikaners are preparing for an upcoming civil war. These are the results of being multi cultural. You want Sri Lanka to be a such hell hole?

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        Chill man, Muticulturism is accepting the existence of other cultures while living under one law..not the countries you mentioned, but Canada for instance.

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    Wannihami is a fking Idiot. He cannot be Sinhala too Eventhough Helsinghe bandara thinks so. Sri lanka is a Sinhala buddhist country.but we treat our minosrities as our brothers and sisters and they must STOP trying to over take our culture and destroy us. WE have a proud history, civilization. but, rightnow our culture is Desteroyed FKED up. that doe snot mean we are dead. We will come back even If Bhikkus retreat. for example In other countries, particualry in thsoe very democratic countries which respect human rights full 100% have minorities. but, their playis limited. In one country at least, they are seen but not heard. I heard in another country where they are so loud, now they are under control. some other democratic countries have gone so far. they are not allowed to be liek GONIBILLAs or buy real estates of bankrupt churches. Instead, they demolish it. In Srilanka, time has come to go against the politicians. don’t expect from them.

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      Chill dude, my man Jim..you are going to get a stroke if you go on like this and do you have some sort of a differently able aspect?

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    Heavens, Champa,
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    You’ve actually said this about me: “I love reading your comments.”
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    Thanks, it’s nice to be loved, but I wonder what Native Vedda and Amarasiri will tell me about being loved by Champa!
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    Champa, let’s face it: some exchanges have been almost acrimonious, but I think that at last a bit of good humour is emerging, we may start enjoying this. It may even be that Mallai, Shenal and Jim could start laughing at each other – and at themselves!
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    You’ve presented a number of fascinating observations and then asked me this bewitching question:
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    What is your view on that?
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    Yes, what observations can be made on those strange truths?
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    Well, since this article has been posted only on the 7th of April, we have until at least Monday, the 17th to debate the issue.
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    I could try, but others also must contribute. Would it be possible for somebody to send a message to dear Grandma RTF also to join in?

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      Sinhala man
      Oh, don’t worry about Keyboard Vedda. He will add your name too, to ‘his list’.
      I have until the 10th. Then it is our New Year. I will be back around 20th.
      I am sure you celebrate too.

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    Dear Champa,
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    PART ONE
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    These are my views; some of the things I’m going to say are definitely wrong, because I’m not an expert on these subjects. Please point them out. They may be commonly held misconceptions which ought to be debunked. I fear that may be so with many others, but they don’t take the risk of stating their views on such a range of subjects.
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    Orthodox Muslims will hold that Muslims must come first, but that the People of the Book, i.e. Christians and Jews are also to be respected. It is stated so in the Koran. Buddhism and Hinduism, with lots of other minor and tribal religions, will be regarded as evil. Allah is definitely on their side, and they will all dwell with him after death.
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    Liberal Muslims will acknowledge that Islam has to be seen as rooted in the Arab Peninsula where conditions were harsh, and that Mohamed stated things unambiguously and with great clarity because he was a practical man who knew that his immediate audience weren’t going to be concerned with subtleties. But such Muslims know that Buddhists don’t really WORSHIP statues of the Buddha, and that even in Hinduism Shiva may be regarded as the one God with many manifestations.
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    Where language is concerned there are some Muslims who would say that Arabic is a special language, but not many. Islam is very pragmatic, and Muslims will be open to learning any language. In Sri Lanka, poorer Muslims are stuck with the Tamil that they speak at home, and that is the only language that they are fluent in.

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    PART TWO
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    As far as Sinhala is concerned, all Muslims see its value and an increasing number are adopting it as their main language, while most by now speak it well. This is a particularly useful article:
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    http://www.azeezfoundation.com/language-and-education-of-sri-lankan-muslims-problems-and-prospects-by-dr-m-a-nuhman/
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    Azeez appears to have been for Tamil as the language for Muslims. However, Badi-ud-din- Mahmud appears to have always championed Sinhalese. He became Minister of Education in 1960, and was the Minister when religious schools were taken over. He had another spell as Minister of Education from 1970 onwards:
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    http://emraz.blogspot.com/2012/04/
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    There’s a lot there, and I haven’t digested it all. Whether he had an earned PhD, I’m not sure, but he certainly understood education very well.

    At the time that Sinhala only was being implemented, the focus was on resistance from the Tamils.
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    There also was anti-Christian feeling. I’ve just come across this article:

    http://rajhjournal.blogspot.com/2013/05/sri-lanka-untold-story-chapter-18.html

    To me it tells the story of how we turned peace-loving Tamils in to militants. I’d like others to comment on all this.
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    If you were to struggle through that last article, you will understand why we must tactfully persuade Tamils to drop their objections to learning Sinhalese. We must have nothing less than total sincerity if we are to succeed. I learnt much from reading that today: it dealt with the time I was just entering adolescence. I wasn’t then conscious of all that was going on.

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    PART THREE
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    My memory of Badiuddin was of a shrewd man who looked after education competently, and kept Muslim interests especially in mind. Badiuddin had always held that the Muslims were not tied to any one language. English Medium education was to continue for a few crucial years only for those whose Mother Tongue was English. The Burghers, obviously. But Badiuddin declared that Muslims could study in any of the three media. So, while the Sinhalese were focussing on pulling down their fellows who had access to English, they overlooked what was happening in very small classes with excellent English Medium teachers who were NOT PERMITTED to teach those classified as Sinhalese or Tamils. This was the period when a minority of Muslims shot ahead in English.
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    I’ve just downloaded this 30 MB dossier that had been prepared for the the American, Mr Robert Mc Namara. It’s interesting how they viewed various members of the SLFP-led cabinet in 1972.

    http://pubdocs.worldbank.org/en/892681391203293119/wbg-archives-1772610.pdf

    Why was Badiuddin dropped as Minister of Education in May 1963 for P.B.G. Kalugalle? I remember the re-shuffle; how the wife of my British Headmaster, Dr Rollo Hayman (who was about to leave after about thirty years in the country), rushed in and announced, with seeming disappointment that Kalugalle was going to be Education.

    What I have written above is not just controversial; it may even be considered provocative. I’d like to be corrected if I have distorted. Once the ban on English for others ended in 1977 with J.R. Jayawardene’s “liberalisation” and the emergence of “International Schools”, the wealthier Muslims went over to these schools. This may be one, usually unalysed, reason for envy of prosperous Muslims.

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    PART FOUR
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    Every young person now wants English, and thereafter to escape from this corrupt country that has no future. Many Universities are conducting programmes in the English Medium. Often, neither student nor lecturer knows much English. The lecture is gone over again in the evening at kuppi (bottle-lamp, that means) classes conducted by one of the few who has managed to follow. Exams are in English, but (quite rightly) marking is only for facts, however garbled the English. To finally get away from the country, however, they have to pass the IELTS exam, or something similar.
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    I check the World News daily to see if The Donald is still POTUS. He still is, but Trumpism is spreading, and soon neither Sinhala nor Tamil Diaspora will swell – in any “Western Country”. Until that gets known, every individual will desire English; till it dawns on them that Band 7 in IELTS is impossible for them. Then they will get bitter. The solution is to once more turn Sri Lanka in to THE country where our descendants will WANT to live.
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    Meanwhile, “sensible” Departments of English conduct Degree programmes for those using English at Second or Third Language Level, and lots of other courses flourish. Toastmasters produce “World Champions” in speaking. There are Leadership Courses, etc. This is a sensible policy; what operates in almost every country where English is a Foreign Language. But Sri Lanka is different. An elite group is “English Speaking.” Many languages can be offered at A. Levels, but THREE are special: English, Sinhala, and Tamil. Please do not confuse with General English which ALL students are expected to sit. Standards of EST Advanced Level papers are First Language. For French, German, Hindi, Chinese etc. it is only THIRD language knowledge that is required.

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    .PART FIVE
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    Three University Departments of English refuse to compromise and continue to operate at First Language Level. Peradeniya, Colombo, and Kelaniya. The following statement is unfortunately true: it is only those children who have been speaking English at home, or have been to secondary schools where there is a preponderance of such students, who can cope. To understand Helasingha’s stupendous achievement, please re-read his earlier article:
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    https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/ashley-and-me/
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    In my comments on that article, I ran out of time to tell you that despite good External G.A.Q. Results, Prof. Halpe threatened me with another test of English before allowing me to undertake the Special Degree in English. This was because I told him that I’d been teaching English in the Bandarawela Central College for twelve years. The test wasn’t finally given, but I hope that you get the picture. We can be more than satisfied that we have high standards, and that we have insights in to World Culture, but we may also be bitterly resented for the Kaduwa (Sword) that we wield.
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    Whilst these three Universities strive to maintain those almost impossibly high standards, other Universities provide options for those who have not sat A. Level English, to do a B.A. (English). They would usually end up teaching English in schools.

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    PART SIX
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    There are pros and cons in this. These students are intelligent enough to have qualified to enter Universities; they are likely to remain in this country, and work in the remoter parts of it. I can’t give you a complete list of such Universities. Those courses began in Sri Jayawardenapura University as far back as thirty years ago and were replicated in the Sabaragamuwa and Wayamba Universities. I feel that the Open University aims at higher levels. Please evaluate; you will do this only if you believe that we must give the “ordinary people” of this country the chance to acquire English.
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    Champa, you are one who doesn’t want to impose the burden of learning Tamil on the entire country. I don’t know Tamil, but my children do: I ensured it. Will my grandchildren learn it? I don’t know; I will not impose it, but they will know my attitude. Yes, it is a burden, with no tangible reward for them. It will have a positive effect of benevolence and amity among all Sri Lankans, but it may never materialise.
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    As for religions, we may be best off without any! But let me not fudge it. I think that enough has been said about Islam, except that I must stress the positive view that they take of Judaism. Israel in the Middle-East is a political problem, not a religious one. Anne Ranasinghe was a German Jew:
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Ranasinghe
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    She passed away not long ago in Sri Lanka, but she retained her identity to the end.

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    PART SEVEN
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    Champa, a surprise for you: my Bandarawela neighbour, and close friend is a polyglot Belgian Jew, a posthumous child, born in 1945, after his father was killed by Hitler. I could let you have insights in to his thinking – although he doesn’t like being introduced like this. Shylock is the unfair stereotype that too many carry. My friend would like to be known as a human being – and a very fine human being he is.
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    The attitudes of unsophisticated Christians to Jews and to Israel is not simple. Many Christians still think that they are God’s chosen people; that their gathering in Israel will herald the Second Coming of Christ, etc. It goes without saying that they have not met a single Jew. Enough said!!
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    I think it would be correct to say that followers of other religions have no problem with Conservative Christians, whether Catholic or Protestant. The Catholic Faith is alive as a religion in Sri Lanka; a large community as you are aware. There are a number of very small “Conservative” Protestant groups. They hardly matter, except in social terms. Let me give you my identity. This is the second of three articles by me:
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    https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-whited-thomian-sepulchres-the-pharisees-who-cheat/
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    Explore. If necessary, pose questions.
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    However, there are the Evangelical Churches which are trying hard to convert Buddhists, even Hindus and Muslims. There’s the God T.V. Channel, and you have Donald Trump! No, they are NOT popular with adherents of other religions, or with the clergy of the near empty Conservative Churches.
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    Champa, I believe you asked me to elucidate feeling that I would answer sincerely. I have tried to live up to that expectation.
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    We are multi-lingual, multi-religious. Spells – P-R-O-B-L-E-M-S! Let us recognise, and solve them.

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    Dear Mallaiyuran,
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    I have the intention of honouring my promise to demonstrate from links indicating how English has changed over the last thousand years.
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    Showing that will not prove anything about the way Tamil, Sinhala, Sanskrit, and Pali may have evolved, but it may indicate to us how languages tend to change, and how absurd are the claims of those who know what happened in Sri Lanka long before we were born.
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    On the other hand, therre’s no point writing unless somebody is reading! Writing takes a lot of time and effort. I will be given the necessary impetus if I have your views on this subject – and on all the other things that I have said.
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    Disagree, if you think that necessary. What is important is that we think, and then write.

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      Any Tamil can read Tamil works of 2000 years old, other than Sangam poems (they may have been written in that time’s rural spoken style, not in the classical style) . You know the famous Thirukural, 2000 years old, I just can’t remember when did I learn my first Kural. We start to sing Thevaram at home, even before we start Kindergarten; these are more than 1500 years old. One may have problem with less than 1000 year old Arunakiri’s works because he purposefully mixed Sanskrit into them. But all children from Kindergarten starts with Avai’s lessons (Aathi Soodi, Konrai Vendan, Nalvali, Moothurai), these are Kuloothungan(Cholar) time works. Jains’ period Naladiyar is taught in 2nd- grade 3rd grade. It is even much easier in language, but kept to latter years because the philosophy taught by Jain Sages is meaningless for Kindergarten Kids, unlike Avai’s lessons. Ramayana (1000), Mahabharata (1000), Silapathiharam(2000)…. These are O/L., A/L, Tamil literature books. One need not heavily get acquainted in these, in Tamil Language classes. So I know only here and there something on these, not much deep.
      Take a look on this: Avai 1000 years old, Thevaram Composers 1500 years old, Jains 1700 years old, Thiruvalluvar 2000 years Old. These are finished by you reach 5th grade in our days. Classical Tamil (writing) still have its words and grammar is intact. Of cause scripts are of took different shapes.

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      That is why schools are still teaching the 2300 years old Tholhapium based Tamil grammar. I know it is hard for you believe because the ultimate hate sawed in the minds of Sinhalese will not allow them to believe it. But it is true Tholhapium is 2300 old and it is still the main grammar book in Tamil. No other languages in the world anywhere comes even near to that record. Chinese, Greek, Arabic…. Nothing.

      Tamil, Kannada, Telugu, Sinhala and Malayalam is the chronological evolution order. In fact it has to be established how Tamil came into; but others evolved from Tamil. On the opposite side Hindi, Gujarati. Bengali are latest in the order. Hindi, Urdu probably are the most junior languages. The Southern Indian Subcontinent languages are the oldest (, in the modern days. Pali and Sanskrit are no longer there. ) Indo-Iranian is a younger class. It is absurd for Sinhalese lose the Dravidian ID to take over an Indo Iranian ID which is less than 1000 years old. Other than Malayalam, no Dravidian Language is less than 1000 old. Just claiming Sinhalese as Dravidian Language alone put Sinhala 500 years ahead of Bengali, no research needed.

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        Thanks, Mallaiyuran,
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        I guess all that you say is true. I just don’t know any Tamil myself, but ages ago I had to learn something about “Thirukural”. We had to learn something of it for “Tamil background”.
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        Grammar and vocabulary you have dealt with. What about pronunciation? Yes, there again you may be right. The changes wouldn’t have been as drastic as in English. In all the Indian languages there is fairly close correspondence between what was written, and the pronunciation. The downside is, of course, huge alphabets!
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        I wonder whether you have difficulties in finding a word in a Dictionary – owing to that? It is difficult for me to keep in mind all the Sinhalese letters in alphabetical order. But then, if we use English, if we don’t know the spelling – well that is why the Thesaurus was thought of, I guess. And for pronunciation, we guys have to learn the International Phonetic Alphabet, but today audio devices seem to have made that also obsolete.
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        So, each language presents a different set of problems. What is important, dear Mallaiyuran, is that we respect each other. Technology is neither good nor evil – but aren’t we hurtling towards extinction because we can’t control our human impulses?
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        I hope you realise that I’m willing to grant all that you say about the Tamil Language – of which, however, I’m totally ignorant.
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        Unfortunately, i don’t know how to get my fellow Sinhalese to understand that while there may be much that is useful in the Mahawamsa, it is a thoroughly biased work.
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        Very definitely, we must teach History differently to children, because few will ever be in a position to revise their views in later life. I hope that you see my response in time to add practical advice.
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        What you write on CT will be more readable if you punctuate paragraphs by putting only a full-stop, or other such mark, below each.

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        Thanks, Malleurine, Having had a bad experience with the use of hypertext, I am glad that you have learnt your lesson and now avoiding the dangerous like plague. It takes a man to mistake but a smart man to avoid the mistake from then on.

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    I don’t think anybody is going to look for evidence of how much English has changed from its beginning. However, if anyone does look for what I said is available, I suggest you look at this 15 minute Youtube programme:
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnqPCewHiKk
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    If you’re NOT watching this full screen, other links will appear down the right side of the monitor. Good luck!
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    But all this originated from saying that we would have difficulty understanding the languages spoken in Sri Lanka two thousand years ago. Is there anything similar for us to try to understand?

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    Offensive usernames and comments and Colombo Telegraphs responsibility
     
    If something is offensive and infringes on another person’s rights then that’s abusive and it is hate speech. Many comments published in Colombo Telegraph contain insults, name-calling and therefore are direct or indirect forms of hate speech which no reputable news media sites will allow. As for the use of offensive usernames – no reputable site will allow usernames like “Native Vedda”, “S. Modaya”, “Muta Siva”, “Mama Sinhalam”, “ThanthaiChelva” to name a few. Of these the username “Native Vedda” is the most offensive, as the Veddas who have no voice are abused by this Tamil man, posing as a Vedda and talking as if he is a Vedda. This is nothing but mocking and ridiculing the Veddas. I have commented a few times before about this. Please see the link in the post below – ironically one of the articles was about aborigines of Australia.
     
    The Tamil man calling himself “Native Vedda” and others who abuse ethnic identities or known people’s names to post their views and comments can very well post their comments using neutral usernames – but instead they have taken an active and calculated decision to use such usernames with the intention to provoke and troll and the result is that nothing constructive comes out of discussions. One such hateful comment by the Wannabe Vedda:
     
    “Did you see Jim Softy, somass ji, Champa’s brothers, Punchi Point, John, …… Hela, …. carrying petrol can in one hand and raised sarong in the other burning down business premises in Pettah area?”
     
    What kind of value does comments like the above one add? And why do the editors at CT allow such comments?

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