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Anti-BBS Vigil: A Critique Of The Critique

By Dayan Jayatilleka –

Dr Dayan Jayatilleka

I wasn’t at the vigil because I don’t do vigils and if I were to make an exception it would be for an anti-BBS/SR demonstration spearheaded by the Left (in our case that would be the JVP and FSP), as are most anti-racist demonstrations all over the world. That is in fact the friendly advice I’d give the organizers of the laudable demonstration. As a founder member, as an undergraduate in the late 1970s, of the Movement for Inter-Racial Justice and Equality (MIRJE) that took on the Sinhala racists in the ’80s or tried to, I recall that we always reached out to and networked the trade unions, peasant unions, political parties, progressive clergy, student organizations, women’s associations, university teachers and the Left. That said I was aghast, but not really surprised to read Malinda Seneviratne’s critical account of the vigil (‘The BBS ‘Buddhists’, ‘Nightclub Buddhists’ and The ‘Vigil’ That I Saw’ April 12, 2013, Colombo Telegraph). He writes:

“But there were non-Buddhists in proportions that were a fair distance away from national ratios.” Two issues arise: Firstly, how on earth could Malinda tell? Is it a visual impression? If so, isn’t this the religious stereotyping, the equivalent of ethnic stereotyping, of the worst sort? Do the non-Buddhists have longer noses than the Buddhists, as the Jews were deemed to have in Nazi Germany? Where does this lead and where does it stop? Secondly, what does it matter? Should demonstrations accord with national ethnic or religious ratios? Are class, caste, provincial and gender ratios relevant too?

Malinda go onto say : “I was disappointed that there was little to tell me that the group was made up of people outside of the ‘facebooking’, English-speaking middle and upper-middle class.  I was less disappointed than perturbed when I noticed that in that group there were individuals who have been violently anti-Buddhist and anti-Sinhala…”

Here again, what is the implication? That Buddhists (or good Buddhists) don’t use Facebook or do not belong to or come from the English speaking middle and upper middle class? Or is that they are Buddhists only if they use Facebook to abuse Muslims? How would this class criterion fit Prince Siddhartha?

It is perfectly possible, even likely, that my own views are diametrically opposite to those of some of the crowd, especially on the war, the CFA and the current and long-standing leadership of the UNP, but I do not know the basis on which one can state as Malinda has, that in the group “there were individuals who have been violently anti-Buddhist and anti-Sinhala…” Were they/are they really ‘violently anti Buddhist and anti-Sinhala’, or simply anti-Sinhala Buddhism as an ideology? Could it be that Malinda is conflating the two? And by the way how ‘violently’ anti-Buddhist and anti-Sinhala were they? As violent as the mobs of July ’83 or those who threw a grenade at the Shah Rukh Khan show, or even those who stormed the Fashion Bug or verbally abused minorities (‘hambaya’ goni billa’, un-mun-arun’), and threw rotten eggs at shoppers?

Malinda writes that “My Muslim friend wrote, ‘What’s the ugliest thing in uniform? – a biased cop. I saw one today declaring pompously that everyone gathered at the vigil was either Muslim, Catholic or Tamil…’ I heard that too. The Police Officer can’t be faulted if he wondered how a ‘Buddhists against BBS’ event had so many non-Buddhists.”

Why pray can’t he be faulted? What business is it of a police officer to query the religious composition of a demonstration? Shouldn’t he be faulted precisely for having posed such a question? How did he come to that conclusion anyway— which by pure coincidence is the same one Malinda came to? Where in the world, outside of an Islamic theocracy would the police pose such a question and where in the world would a Chief Editor of an English language mainstream newspaper think it ok?

Malinda outdoes himself with the following paragraph: “…someone referred to the anti-BBS ‘Buddhists’ as ‘Nightclub Buddhists’. Strange juxtaposition and descriptive, yes, but it also raised questions of social status, class, lifestyle etc.  A Buddhist is a Buddhist, whether he/she wears white or black, a sil redda or jeans, but clothes mark and they mark well.  This was no Buddhist Cross-section, that much was apparent to me.”

Quite apart from the question of whether ‘Nightclub Buddhists’ who aren’t guilty of hit and run drunken driving of a lorry (a greater vehicle?) are somehow less Buddhist than the “Bay-badu Bala Sena” ones, what precisely does Malinda mean by ‘raises questions of social status, class lifestyle’? What questions? Of course clothes do mark but how do “clothes mark and [they] mark well”, in relation to Buddhism and the issues at hand? When once again Malinda says ‘this was no Buddhist cross section, that much was apparent to me’, how was it apparent, why is what is apparent (the result of sense impressions) taken to be the truth – which doesn’t sound much like the Dhamma—and what does any of it has to do with Buddhism, still less the legitimacy of a protest against religious fanaticism?

This hardly seems a fair or rational critique.

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    The classification of Buddhist into Sinhala, Night-Club, Facebook, Colombo 7 etc brings in the class and education component. Do Buddhist really want to go into this type of classification? Already BBS proposes to segregate the muslims as outcasts to be shunned in business, marraige, employment etc.

    BBS is creating a new class of Buddhist called ‘Militant Buddhist’ similiar to the Myanmar 969 movement. But at the same time BBS sees no problem in cohabiting with the right wing facists in Norway, US to promote their anti-muslim activities. BBS lay officals are clad in western attire not the traditional white arya national outfit?

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      Malinda Seneviratne’s project like that of his pay masters the Mahinda Rajapakse Military Dictatorship is DIVIDE, DISTRACT and RULE the cournty – particularly opposition to the regime.
      That is why we see him classifying and dis-ing the the protest, while pretending in his usual DISINGENUOUS and slimy fashion to support the protest against BALU SENA!

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      SAFA, BBS don’t want to segregate muslims. Muslims already sgregated by themselves in SL. It happened during last two decades. They think they are not Srilankans but an arabic community living in arabic country. That’s why they prefer to use arabic language. This segregation is the main reason for current problems. It is hard to notice that any muslim person shop in a sinhalese owned business. But when BBS ask sinhalese to boycott muslim shops they make a big noise.
      Rather than solve problems by discussion amicably, they try to bring it to international level. Or try to challange Sinhalese by making a “Jihad holy war”.

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    Thanks for this dayan. I too was wondering how on earth malinda could have judged someone,s religion by the way they look! It’s not just poor journalism, but also reveals his petty racist attitudes. And for all malinda’s anti christian rhetoric, its funny how he sends his kids to a leading christian school…kinda like that dilantha guy of the bbs shouting about NGOs being from such a background himself!

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      Apparently, Malinda is an expert at judging a book by its cover.

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        Dayan,
        I think Malinda knew better & saw no any Buddhist force was there to oppose BBS but some NGO guys on payroll & non Buddhists. Dayan you now in search of new GOSL job, after losing UN ambassoder job, for by giving false promises on your own to US/EU without the mandate of GOSL which couldn’t be accomplished & further by being outspoken , US pressurized GOSL to remove, even here you say is all nonsense.

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          If I am in search of a new GoSL job I wouldn’t be openly criticizing the BBS, which has the endorsement of the powerful Sec/Def, should I now, John?

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    Dayan

    The vigil was a confrontation between the declining pro-western urban upper and middle classes VS the rising culturally-indigenous rural Sinhala lower middle class. The confrontation took the form of a culture war over the interpretation of Buddhism. So the social composition (ethnicity, religion, class, lifestyle, etc.) of those challenging the champions of Sinhala Buddhism is of great sociological significance.

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      Wrong. This was a confrontation between those who are Sinhala Buddhist and those who are Buddhist Sinhala. Those who worship statues and trees, recite gathas, and those who practice what the Buddha taught. Those who resort to violence in the name of Buddhism and those do not. It is not a culture war.That is what Malinda and the BBS would like us think.

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        Wickramasiri,

        Why would a practising Buddhist go into any confrontation? Surely, this can’t be Buddha’s teaching.

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          Yes, Why would a practising Buddhist go into any confrontation?… in the form of a vigil or at fashion bug, kuragala,Dambulla, or by way of spreading hate?

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            MR

            First read the comment Wickramasiri made in order to understand my response to it. He is the one who claimed only those who came to the vigil are practicing what Buddha taught and not who are with the BBS and got involved in Fashion bug, Kuragala and Dambulla incidents.

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        Wickramasiri

        Right. That was a confrontation between two groups as defined by you. People in these two contending groups typically come from distinct socio-economic backgrounds. What the concept of “culture war” does is to look at the confrontation in the cultural terrain – namely, the clash between two competing ways of practising Buddhism – as a reflection of the class struggle between the two groups involved. That’s all. While questions such as which group is morally right or which group is true to “what the Buddha really taught” are worthwhile and necessary lines of inquiry, the “culture-war” approach is not interested in that. It’s concerned with gaining more understanding of the conflict by looking at the social dynamics involved.

        Now turning to your approach, I have two questions about those who confronted the “Sinhala Buddhists.” You describe them as “Buddhist Sinhala” even though many reports – which we have no reason to doubt – mentioned the majority among that group were non-Buddhists, namely Christians and Muslims. Secondly, how many of those Christians and Muslims practice their respective religions the way you seem to think a religion should be practiced. That is, carrying their religion only in their hearts and not reciting verses/hymns, worshiping statues or participating in other such rituals?

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      Rambler:
      Your effort to disguise blatantly classist and racist rhetoric in mumbo-jumbo rubbish is patently fraudulent and your lapse into grammatical English can’t conceal that fact!

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        Aney Apochchi

        When you attack me you warm the cockles of my heart. I feel vindicated. It proves I have achieved my aim which is to cause vibration in ossified brain cells. By the way, unlike in everyday usage, the terms “class” and “race” are used in a value-free, neutral and technical sense in sociological analysis.

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    Well put Dayan. There can be no justification to the way police behaved. Instead of asking the threatening BBS gang to disperse, they man handled the peaceful people who participated in the vigil. Now it is clear who is behind this BBS crap. I myself feel ashamed to have served the ministry of defense as a academic. This is not the post-war Sri Lanka we dreamed of. If Gotabaya has an iota of brain left, he must not take sides when it comes to law enforcement. He is clearly giving a wrong message. Gota, this is shameful, filthy, and disgusting! I have been straight with you throughout, and this is for you again.

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    Dayan, I think it was just that everyone knew each other, so we knew who was what. Of the people I recognized, most were Muslim or Tamil.

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      Can’t they have a vigil?

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      Who says a Tamil cannot be a Buddhist. Buddhism is not an exclusive right of Sinhalese only.

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      Clearly you have many Tamil and Muslim friends (on the candle side) and Sinhala-Buddhist friends on the BBS side :-)

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        Unfortunately, Load Buddha was not sinhala….he has born to the Hindu family……Unfortunately he was not a Sri Lankan…………

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        Chandra, the only thing that’s clear is that you can’t understand simple English. Yes, I have many Tamil and Muslim friends, and yes, some of them were there that night. I also have many Buddhist friends, though I don’t know any who are on the BBS side.

        TRN, no, no one is saying Muslims and Tamils can’t have a vigil. But if opposition for the BBS is to be effective it must come from Buddhists themselves; if not, it will simply be dismissed as minority sentiment. We saw that on Friday, with the BBS claiming we were NGOs trying to change the national anthem. It’s important to understand how to be effective rather than just spouting rhetoric.

        Park, I’m sure there are some Tamil Buddhists, but they are pretty rare. Do you have a point?

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          No the people who are affected by BBS have all the right to protests against it. Don’t cave in to the pressure of extremism.

          Most Buddhists very raely take a stand on anything. Even if they are against BBS they will not go out to demonstrate. The only demonstrations that have been held in SL successfully were student movements and demos backed by a political party.

          If the group of Anti BBS have no political backing they will not be able to attract crowds.

          However this does not mean that majority of Buddhists are supportive of BBS. Most of them don’t give a shit as they have their own problems to deal with. ‘Dimmed concience’.

          The motto of the majority of Sri Lankans ‘if we are not getting affected why should we care to fight for others who are affected’.

          All are living in their own bubble…. when the bubble burst they will start the struggle.

          This type of extremism should not be allowed to raise it’s head at this juncture. When GoSL is openly supportive of BBS we are headed for doom’s day.
          We are losing a golden oppertunity to correct our past mistakes and put this country in the correct path. The blame goes to the one who has all the authority to get rid of the vice. What we lack is a leader with wisdom.

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        Chandra,

        Do not be surprised.

        Birds of a feather flock together, both Malinda Seneviratne and David Blacker [Edited out]

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      [Edited out] once in a way they these two humbugs write some article like moderate angels (Malinda once wrote “The Muslim In Me” and David wrote “Our Moment Of Destiny”) just to hoodwink the readers. If the readers actually follow these two men, they will understand the hidden agenda. The only difference is Malinda is a Sinhala-Buddhist Chauvinist where as David is from the minority.

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        He is a foot soldier wiping Gota’s ass is his destiny.

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    Number one public enemy of the great majority of the inhabitant population including Tamils who opposed the Tigers and , who want to live in peace and harmony post terror Srilanka is Mr Sambandan and his TNA.

    Why?.

    Because of their relentless campaign to undermine the Govt, destabilize the society, and sabotage the economy, to help Ranil lead Opposition into power,so that the TNA can get exactly what Ranil offered Prabakaran.

    TNA propaganda has issued us two Yellow Cards by their No One IC member.

    Numner Two and Three have give notice that CHOGM will be moved to Maldives if Sambandan doesn’t get what he wants.

    US Ambassodor lady even summons our Govt Utility Executives to tell them what and what not to do.

    And this BORU BUDDHU Sena is chasing after our Islamic cousins, who copped a lot from Sambandan affliates as much as we did. haven’t

    And have been peaceful citizens for nearly a century, since our Colonials set them up against us.

    This Boru Buddhu Sena has given not one but many free kicks to the anti Govt elements both local and overseas.

    Every Tom Dick and Harry have joined the Caravan , to bludgen Buddhism and Buddhist followers in Srilanka to buggery.

    Solheim’s Kroner investments in Srilankan Temples are reaping rewards perhaps!.

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      K.A Sumanasekera

      “Because of their relentless campaign to undermine the Govt,”

      If Sampanthan is capable of undermining the government and the state it is a good news, and rightly so though a belated attempt.

      Majority of the inhabitants (99.99%) should welcome it.

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      WE COULD NOT FIND YOU, WITH THE
      BAYBADU BALA SENA [ DRUNKARD’S BALA SENA]at the vigil.

      MAY BE THEY LEFT YOU NEAR A GUTTER.

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    Hello Dayan. Caught on the wrong side of the fence? A rarity indeed.

    Now listen to Rambler over there doesn’t he sound familiar? This is indeed a “class struggle” in full cry. On the one hand the English educated elite who believe in and buy into the “Global Cult of Human Rights and Compliance” you know the “Right to Pee” and all that?, and on the other hand what Rambler calls the “rising culturally-indigenous rural Sinhala lower middle class”.

    The nature of the struggle shows clearly the nature of the two classes. On the one hand the night clubbing English speaking “pro-western urban upper and middle classes” with their “rights” and “rule of law” and on the other these “rising culturally-indigenous rural Sinhala lower middle class” with the “violence of the oppressed” that you are so very fond of defending when it suits your interests.

    I am very glad you did not join the struggle. It may have led to another incident of the previous sort where the dead were rudely disturbed by your performance.

    I suggest you get your act together if you can and recognize a spade for a spade. This is fascism consolidating its grip on a sovereign state for the first time since the second worked war and fascism will use ideology, any kind of ideology in order to spread.

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      I see it differently – DAYAN, THAMARA, RAJIVA and the ones are now on transition mode :) Their articles are becoming evident. Anyway, it is worth to add the facts about such gatherings not misleading the CT readership.

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        Sama, the Buddha teaches that we are all in transition mode. Speaking of which I suggest that you support the transition to a new, electorally competitive leader of the Opposition, if you don’t want the BBS/SR and its patrons to entrench their rule for decades and usher in a new Dark Age.

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      Crazyoldmansl, please do quote just one instance in 35-40 years of political and ideological intervention where I’ve defended, in those terms and for that reason, the “rising culturally-indigenous rural Sinhala lower middle class” as “the oppressed”. On the contrary, I have been writing in opposition to the policy of standardization which was predicated precisely on such an interpretation.

      As for the ‘English speaking “pro-western urban upper and middle classes” with their “rights” and “rule of law”’ as you and Rambler call it, I support them when they stand for pluralism and equal rights, just as I would support anyone from any class, if they stood for the right values and against the wrong ones.

      However, if and when they do not stand for the elimination of Tiger fascism, or stand for a disgraceful policy of appeasement ( CFA-ISGA-PTOMS) or for an elasticized version of R2P which is a cover for external hegemonic intervention, I criticize and oppose it.

      Rather simple, really: its to do with the issue, and the prioritization of issues, not the class.

      It is ironic that I have been advised to call a spade a spade by someone who doesn’t have the guts to call himself by his own name.

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    I wonder why Dayan Jayathilake is worried about a kids article ?

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      Though he may at times be childish, and may even be kidding, Malinda is no kid…:)

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        There were one or two articles from MS, mildly questioning the First Family. He must have received a phone call from one of the brothers, or Sajin.

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    Yes Dayan, I agree with the following above everything:

    “Quite apart from the question of whether ‘Nightclub Buddhists’ who aren’t guilty of hit and run drunken driving of a lorry (a greater vehicle?) are somehow less Buddhist than the “Bay-badu Bala Sena” ones, what precisely does Malinda mean by ‘raises questions of social status, class lifestyle’? What questions? Of course clothes do mark but how do “clothes mark and [they] mark well”, in relation to Buddhism and the issues at hand? When once again Malinda says ‘this was no Buddhist cross section, that much was apparent to me’, how was it apparent, why is what is apparent (the result of sense impressions) taken to be the truth – which doesn’t sound much like the Dhamma—and what does any of it has to do with Buddhism, still less the legitimacy of a protest against religious fanaticism? ”

    And from what I read from the few articles sofar including yours, I believe this could just be a FB gathering of western sort – to peacefully protest against hate speech-BBS and their continue violent vented on many these days.

    Composition of the gathering has HOWEVER been the focus to that estranged Editor Malinda S than to anyone else because he has to score his bonus leaving the truth aside, but by any means.

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      My problem is why the SLGO seem to be napping not taking due actions against “hit and run” ones even if the history of crimes are prima facie evidence – PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN THE CURE.

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    Well said Dayan.

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    CrazyOldMan, You are not crazy at all.

    You are spot on. This is about the struggle between the ” The English educated elite ” (Wogs for short) and the “rising culturally-indigenous rural Sinhala lower middle class” (Yakkos for short).

    Now if you were in Peradeniya campaus, the Yakkos are in majority. For them English is “Kadwa”. While they detest the Wogs, they sense the need for one of them to be able to wield the Kadwa. I think the pre-colonial yakkos chose Banda and Prabakran chose Anton. Praba would often say how well Anton could translate his thoughts into English !

    Malinda is doing the same, because his entire focus is clearly to impress the yakkos. It delights him no end to piss on the wogs – which he does happily and regularly in this forum. The poor yakkos on the other hand, know not what is happening or being said, but need to know that some one is defending them in English, as much as Anton did for the Tamils. The more he is hated, the more convinced Yakkos will be of his alliance.

    In that sense we are all contributing towards his success. So from here on, I will cease to write about his tragic comedian who has come to believe that the it is the votes of the yakkos is the only thing that he needs to prove his value to the powers that may be – who are running short of wog support.

    So Malinda, please continue your comic drama. I thank you for the entertainment, but choose to be a spectator.

    Dayan, it will be good if you can obtain a Cuban passport for Malinda and perhaps for yourself. You have left Sri Lanka with a few friendly nations. But you are less interesting than and Malinda, even though you are a better gymnast. But then, Malinda may be prove be a good companion in exile in case the wogs take over.

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      Kiri Yaka, you must have flunked in arithmetic. As the record shows, I left Sri Lanka with a greater number of friendly nations in 2009 ( which is when I left Geneva) than the USA has been able to secure for its resolutions in 2012 and 2013.

      The wogs won’t be taking over any time soon, unless they dump their Wog-in-chief of the last 19 years. for the first time in history, the Yakkos won Colombo District , scoring more votes than the Wog boss. If you want to roll back the Yakko tide, as I do, pick a wog or a non-wog/non-yakko, who can win a sufficient number of yakko votes. however hard the economic crunch gets, it sure ain’t gonna be the Wog in chief who picks up those votes.

      Here’s a hot tip: the best bet may just be a young guy who played cricket for a British public school, is an LSE alumni, interned with a US congressman, and has a brand name and oratorical drawing power among non-wog, non-urban voters.

      If Colombo fails to replace its Wog-in-Chief, while Tamil Nadu , the TGTE, GTF-BTF and the local TPNF and some TNA radicals keep pushing the wrong buttons, the Yakko backlash will enthrone one or other ex-uniformed strongman (from within or outside the family) at the next elections who will make MR seem a pleasant memory and will keep the Yakkos on top and the Wogs down for a long Dark Age.

      The Wogs gotta make the choice, fast.

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    Ok Dayan. I am not one of those who are paid by multilateral and bilateral donors to push their global doctrine of human rights and compliance and in fact my experience has been that they have an intense dislike towards what I see and what I say, so it will be a long time before I can go through my responses to your articulations while the war was being waged in all its ferocity and you were in full cry to the point of threatening – for all the world to hear and for so called lunatics like myself to read as well – a much magnified repeat of July 83 as a (according to you) justifiable response to the “right to pee” boys in those days when it looked as though they were poised to do just that on Sri Lanka. But since you have asked me to jog your failing memory I certainly shall find the time to go through those exchanges where I warned you very clearly that you were not just doing fascism a favor but were, along with a few others (I think Rajiva was one of them I then mentioned – I wonder whether the two of you were actually aware of what you were doing), who at the time were playing the Goebells to the growing movement. If I remember right I even went to the extent of pointing out a likely pathway that this growth would take and going by the growls growing louder from next door it looks as though I have not been too far off the mark.

    Please leave my identity out of this. I have had quite enough trouble on its account over many decades and so I have decided to do without it with not entirely unfortunate consequences though I do miss somewhat the freedom of movement I once enjoyed, and I do mind the fact that I have people looking over my shoulder most of the time and the fact that I need help with my typing. This is possibly all for the better since I have noticed that these erstwhile “followers of the global cult of human rights and compliance” are every bit as extreme and every bit as volatile as the fascists, extremists and sundry violators of their doctrine. What I have to say is more important than who I am so let us leave it at this at least for the time being.

    It may actually be a good thing for me to publish those exchanges with an analysis along with the filling in of the strategic moves that were going on in the background. “Crazyoldmansl and the Goebellensian Delusion – conversations on the art of defending massacres and preventing the activation of the Right to Pee” may be an interesting title. Should do for a downright chuckle or two deep down in my fast approaching grave.

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      Hey Crazyoldmansl– you don’t mind me calling you Crazy, for short, I hope– your flaky memory is no excuse for lies and calumny. You write as follows:

      “…you were in full cry to the point of threatening – for all the world to hear and for so called lunatics like myself to read as well – a much magnified repeat of July 83 as a (according to you) justifiable response to the “right to pee” boys in those days when it looked as though they were poised to do just that on Sri Lanka.”

      Now everything I said at the time was inescapably in the limelight and on the record, on the public record, either in my articles on Groundviews or, if in the HRC, on YouTube and the local press.

      Kindly show me anything even remotely akin to what you allege. To the contrary, I actually wrote as an Ambassador in Geneva, a piece on the 25th anniversary of July ’83, which was much reviled by Sinhala chauvinists.

      In short, you, Sir, are a liar.

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      What I did write as a possible R2P approached, was that any interventionist force would have to face the Sri Lankan army and the JVP, backstopped by hundreds of thousands if not millions of patriotic young people, in protracted asymmetrical warfare. In an earlier article on the subject I had invoked the spirit of Puran Appu and the 1848 rebellion. Does that sound like threatening a July ’83 to you? Where does violence against unarmed members of any minority come into it?

      You preach the need to call a spade a spade. let’s see you practice it:
      1. Was Prabhakaran a fascist?
      2. Was he a greater or lesser fascist than you allege this regime is?
      3. Was it a good or bad thing that he ended up with a saucer-sized hole in his head?
      4. Was it good or bad that the Tigers lost the war?
      5. Was it good or bad that the Sri Lankan armed forces and State won the war?
      6. Would this regime act the way it is doing and is able to, were the opposition to have an electorally viable leader and Presidential candidate?

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    @Sama, yes it is a bit funny. I do not know about Thamara but knowing Rajiva very well I am fairly certain that he had no clue as to what he was defending and justifying. I have a suspicion that he thought he was playing Shakespeare or something and sharpening his literary and rhetorical skills on the world stage – all the worlds a stage and all that you know. He is probably beginning to realize the kind of nightmare he has fallen into and is therefore scrambling to jump ship. Dayan is sort of stuck in transition mode and keeps transiting all the time. Maybe he is a seafarin man and sees it as a sort of tacking.

    He puts it this way “:Rather simple, really: its to do with the issue, and the prioritization of issues, not the class.” If we leave the class aside which is a carry over from Ramblers analysis then the problem with Dayan’s simplicity is how the prioritization of issues takes place. Whatever Dayan may maintain prioritization takes place on the basis of a world view of a way of seeing the world. And my experience of Dayan’s prioritization of issues leads me to the conclusion of what I have said above. The process is still in motion and we shall see whether I am correct or whether I am well justified in being where I am. I hope I have time to see for myself where it goes and how he transits to a justification of his actions and utterances.

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    K.A.Sumanasekera……….. Sampanthan started and now habnded over to Rayappu….
    I hear that S.J.Emmanuel is closer to visiting his creator and Rayappu is eyeing his post…..He does not mind the demotion.
    \
    Blaming the Robes variety, imagine what these cassoack wearing king do with the passive roman Empire backing. They are indeed not missionaries but Mercenaries.
    Their Master is baffled what they indulge in his name.

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    My question is why did the policeman keep quiet when the Sinhala Buddhists and the men in saffron robes(To call them monks is to insult the monks) attacked Fashion Bug ware house at Pepiliyana with Deshapremi stones. Did Malinda say that it was the Muslims who attacked Fashion Bug. These civised mobs were called to do so by ringing the temple bells and spreading of false rumours. It was easy for them to believe the rumors as ground work was laid down in their Kandy meeting in March by saying lies.

    Now what did the Vigil group do- they were not having Deshapremi stones but candles. Is it a valid reason to attack the peaceful protesters. Lets not identify them as to their religion/race or caste. But lets identify with their cause and the strategies they adopt.

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      malli
      Nolimit in Maharagama had record sales this year than any
      other Sinhala Tamil new years.Army had been deployed to
      deal with any ugly scenes.Good for the Govt.That’s real
      ordinary Sinhala behavior in a peaceful environment.
      Maharagama people are not with BBS.In Weligama,there was
      only about 100-150 people at their meeting.There are some
      good signs that BBS can not win the trust of general Sinhala
      public for another communal showdown.Let’s hope sanity
      prevails.

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    Muslims are easy connected to the rest of the Muslim world
    and beyond through their traditional business skills and
    friendly approach.Tamils have cultural and business links
    with Tamilnadu. Sinhalese don’t have similar opportunities
    overseas either in the name of Buddhism or language, to have
    a special bond.This is one crucial point that plays in favor
    of Muslims and Tamils prosperity in terms of financial ability
    compared to Sinhalese in some businesses.But again they depend
    less on the state and get less from the state for their
    livelihood and this leaves the state with more room to serve
    the Sinhalese more freely.Though this is not a good sign for
    the Muslims in particular,this has been the case for as long as
    I know.One case in point can be lack of one proper well equipped
    school for the entire southern province Muslims.Same in Kandy.
    When calamity strikes Muslims,Muslim ministers are dispatched
    to the wealthy Arab countries for help.But when mosques get
    funds the same way,that becomes dangerous.Sinhalese are obsessed
    with jealousy thanks to the wrong and false Buddhism founded
    and practiced in the country for political purposes.And we have
    now come to a point where we see it doesn’t even serve that
    purpose.It only tries to destroy the works that people took
    centuries to build.All because of what?JEALOUSY nothing but
    JEALOUSY.

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    Sadly how the Dhamma is interpreted by categorization but not behavior.
    The questions is whether its nightclub or BBS who behaves like Buddhists.

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    Well, next time when you (BQBBS) organise or call for people to come for anything, if you are truly driven by buddhist philosophy please organise these events at a Temple. Organising these to provoke another in a location that could create further trouble is not acceptable. What you need to prove to the world is that BBS is not driven by the Buddhist philosophy. That’s the only way that you can protect Buddhism and image of buddhist. If your intentions are sincere you don’t have to rally people for vigils but rally people to protect peace in society and to respect others of different nationalities, races, religions and etc. Rally Buddhist for equal rights of all ethnicities that live in Sri Lanka.

    Fanaticism or extremism in any form should not be harboured in any society. Any protest to antagonise another party or public stuns by publicity craving (in robes or not) should also not be entertained. Just because one is against the behaviour and anti social activities of BBS it also does not mean that they should be on the side of others that work with ulterior motives. Stand for the right cause.

    Prove to the world that One being proud of the race and religion of which he/she belongs to can also be a person that accepts and a proponent of a multi ethnic and multi religious society.

    I too vehemently disagree of rhetorics and the unruly behaviour of BBS. But don’t play in to the hands of other unscrupulous powers that is eyeing to destabilise our Country.

    Stand for the Country and stand to protect the reputation of the Nation. It doesn’t mean that you need to agree with those who act with blind faith in the name of the country, race, religion or any other cause. Stand against those who wants to brand the nation based on unruly few.

    Do what is right for the Country and what is right for the Society, then you will not be causing any harm to the rightful living of anyone.

    What is important is to agree to disagree with respect and coexist. I believe this is what is needed for a multi cultural, multi ethnic society. I stand to be corrected.

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    @Amal: BBS harms others AND themselves while Nightclub harms only themselves.You can choose which is better. To me of course both are full of haram which of curse makes them both haram to me..

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    Well said Dayan!

    Malinda, as we all know, is a stinking anal aperture who sings for his sumptuous supper provided to him by his vile handlers.

    Why do we waste time listening to this pompous pseudo-intellect masqeuarading as a ‘mainstream’ journalist(DJ’s expression), who regularly dishes out toilet-wash in his gobbledy-gook commentaries.

    Malinda is an out and [Edited out] who is paid to do the bidding of his Masters.

    Otherwise, he may not only lose his bread and butter but perhaps receive a visit from one of those white vans. However, I suggest he disappears voluntarily, and spare the reading public from his convoluted bull excreta.

    The hollow love he shows for his newly-found Muslim intellectuals, does not fool anyone.

    Malinda is a closet BBS lover, and he should be treated as such.

    Get lost Malinda!!!

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    nice to see Malinda taking on the real enemies of the regime. Maybe he has saffront underware underneath his journalistic cap.

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    Well said Dayan..

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    Dayan,

    Regarding the near zero support for Sri Lanka internationality, some credit is certainly due to you. Do not credit your self of leaving the service with more than zero number of countries supporting us. Countries take time to react.

    You are no racist and your independent views and positions are respected. Your hatred for the Tamil fascist organization LTTE and its apologist is also shared. What is not shared, is you dialectical Gramsicain logic that allows you to party with those who are not much much better than those whom you fight to replace.

    I would not like to include into my definition of “wogs” the wog in-chief that you mention. While I appreciate that boiled eggs has the pride of place in the British breast fast table, it should not be in the mouth when talking to the press and tv crew. But what disqualifies this gentleman from being a proper wog is not the egg in the mouth, but the egg replacing his brain, with which he is able to lead a party of egg heads.

    Wogs are us; English speaking , Facebook using folk who are generally despised by the yakkos. We fear as much as you do the prospect of “Yakkos on top and the Wogs down for a long Dark Age.” . The only choice then for the wogs is to do a GL Peris. But we ain’t blessed with his flexibility.

    It is clear that the wogs got to do something soon. An inter Yakko conflict to replace one Yakko with another Yakko will not help us wogs.
    I am sure that you are aware, that despite your diplomatic efforts, given the global televised coverage of BBS, many wogs that we meet do not want to be known as Singhala Buddhist any more.

    Wonder if BBS would throw the Tamils, Muslims, Wogs and other assorted undesirables into a hot embrace ?

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      Leaving the service? When I left I was Ambassador to France and UNESCO, with no venue or chance to assess the support Sri Lanka had.

      The proof of the pudding was in 2009, and I left Geneva with 29 votes for SL.

      In 2012, three years after I had left, Sri Lanka had 15 votes.

      In 2013, four years after I’d left, Sri Lanka had 13.

      Even so, the countries that ‘reacted slowly’ haven’t been able to secure with all their resources, the votes that we got in Geneva when I served there!

      You write:”The only choice then for the wogs is to do a GL Peris.”

      Why?

      The WoGs can throw their support and resources behind an effort to turn the electoral marketplace competitive again.

      You also say “It is clear that the wogs got to do something soon. An inter Yakko conflict to replace one Yakko with another Yakko will not help us wogs.”

      That’s dumb. Check the arithmetic. Only an inter-Yakko conflict can do the trick. You need a Yakko-ish Wog or a Woggish Yakko to change the game.

      You “Wonder if BBS would throw the Tamils, Muslims, Wogs and other assorted undesirables into a hot embrace?”

      Again, the numbers: as Sirisena Cooray used to say, the crucial thing is the ability to win ‘a majority of the majority’, without which the support of the minorities won’t help. 75% are Sinhalese, the last time I looked.

      If you can’t figure that out, no wonder you can’t understand Geneva.

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    It is a matter of time those are fooled by the Rajapakshas in the
    name of bogus patriotism, are going to label Dayan a traitor and
    funded by pro-LTTE diaspora. That is how Rajapakshas operate.
    They don’t want people of SL to remember great military
    commanders like MJ Densil Kobbekaduwa, Janaka Perera,
    Vijaya Wimalaratne and many others including General
    Sarath Fonseka who never left the force and fought under
    very difficult circumstances particularly when the world
    opinion was totally against us. Would there be a any other
    way to disrespect our war heros other than running the
    country (which was saved by those who fought the war all
    their lives) this way? Propping up people like Duminda Silva,
    Mervin Silva, allowing Dumnda’s brother to loot quarter billion
    ruppees from the NSB which has savings of poor Srilankans,
    making handful of Rajapaksha financiers to become filthy
    rich by manipulating the stock market at EPF and ETF cost,
    taking commercial loans @ 5-6% interest in order to get
    hundreds of millions of kick backs from lending agencies
    or the country provide those loans, list goes on and on.
    Those who speak up against this madness not only be labeled
    as traitors perhaps loose their precious lives.

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    Dayan, says,

    “I wasn’t at the vigil because I don’t do vigils and if I were to make an exception it would be for an anti-BBS/SR demonstration spearheaded by the Left (in our case that would be the JVP and FSP)..”

    Whot !!!!? This perfectly exposes why Dayan uses the clause “Running with the hares and hunting with the wolves!”. You have been all over the place, aren’t you? UNP, SLFP and then searching your next exploit in the left in JVP! The problem with you is that the facts you speak of are half-boiled because of your promiscuous political traits as also evident from your next quote! Your ambition of life is to carve out a personal niche for you under whatever government in power and then to ‘lecture out’ to the people from the luxury, privilege and comfort of that small niche! May be the JVP ‘leg-pullers’ would be your last destination of choice left before you retire from your made-average political career!

    “It is perfectly possible, even likely, that my own views are diametrically opposite to those of some of the crowd, especially on the war, the CFA and the current and long-standing leadership of the UNP..”

    Ha..ha..ha!!! This is crux of the matter and where you made the cardinal mistake in your life! You wanted and tried to create your own leader of choice, Karu Jayasuriya, for the leadership of UNP and then as in the case of RP be the ‘policy maker godfather’ of the party! But your calculations were wrong and Ranil was not the mutt you expected him to be! And the rift you created for yourself is so wide that you cannot possibly return to UNP now under Ranil’s leadership! You desperately want to put a puppet in the driver seat of UNP failing which you would try to plant yourself at least in JVP as the current regime has reached its logical termination in near future.

    But I doubt very much that the “New World Order” will allow any room for Ranil to save this country. That scare-crow GL Pieris ran to US with a ‘road map’! What did that rag contain? No one knows! Even US did not divulge! But what is happening afterwards bears evidence-plunging ever more deeper into hatred, conflict, HR violations, displeasure and disapproval among IC, growing notoriety and crimes, more attacks on minorities, human rights and freedoms, spawning more racial, religious and ethnic tensions and hatred, emergence of BBS & Ravana saffron mutts-all of which are indications of the next stage of the imperialist and colonial agenda: carving out the next country in the world and creating another conflict zone in the world! Rajapakshas have promised to the godfathers they would facilitate, in lieu of not being dragged before war crimes court, to create and maintain the ideal conflict zone situation long enough for UN and US to fulfill their imperialist mission!

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      Ranga, instead of worrying about whether or not I can ‘return to the UNP under Ranil’s leadership’ — and it is a mystery how I can ‘return’ to a party I never joined even under Ranasinghe Premadasa!– why don’t you worry how the UNP or anyone else will will return to office even in a Provincial Council as long as Ranil remains the leader of the Opposition and thus the main electoral alternative offered to the citizenry, who will not opt for him even if they have to eat ‘salt and rice’ as the saying goes, because he is regarded as an ‘anti-national’ appeaser of minoritarianism?

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    Are you trying to say that an absolute joker and paid lackey like Malinda (and you) can think ? Are you insinuating that what the two of you write is rational or based on any sort of logic ?

    You guys just do what the President tells you to do and your elaborate disguises are wearing thin !

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      Oh I don’t know Don, there’s at least one guy who seems to think I can. Check this out and take it up with him.

      (The Independent.lk) – A top Israeli scholar-analyst who served as adviser to several Prime Ministers, has described Dr. Dayan Jayatilleka’s book on Fidel Castro as a ‘fascinating book’ that ‘deserves attention by all concerned with global norms’ in a review posted in January 2013 on Amazon.com.

      Yehezkel Dror, Emeritus Professor of Political Science at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, was Senior Policy Planning and Analysis Adviser with the Israeli Ministry of Defence, a consultant of the Israeli Cabinet Office and advised several Israeli Prime Ministers.

      Professor Dror served on the Israeli Government-appointed panel that investigated the military’s performance in the 2006 Lebanon war. The Harvard educated academic is the author of ‘Israeli Statecraft: National Security Challenges and Responses’ (Routledge).

      He has served as a senior staff member of the RAND Corporation in Santa Monica, California, directed the Strategic Studies Section of the Davies Institute for International Relations at the Hebrew University and is a member of the International Institute of Strategic Studies and of the Club of Rome.

      In the review entitled ‘Realistic Ethics for Revolutionary Violence’, Prof. Dror wrote:
      “This is a fascinating book discussing the author’s understanding of the ‘ethics of violence’ of Fidel Castro. I am not qualified to express an opinion if and how far the book correctly describes the actual behaviour of Castro. But the book does present impressive ethics of violence fitting bloody revolutionary situations, as developed and expressed, at least verbally, by one of the most interesting and relatively successful revolutionary leaders of the 20th century.
      In essence, the suggested ethics justifies the use of violence, including extreme forms, if essential for making a revolution succeed, while restraining unessential violence not justified by evil acts which justify retribution. Thus, violence was not condoned against soldiers fighting on the battlefield against Castro’s troops, but was regarded as fully justified against those torturing revolutionaries, murdering them after they capitulated, and engaging in violent anti-revolutionary actions after the victory of Castro.

      Comparing such ethics of revolutionary violence with the barbarism of deliberate mass killing by Germany’s National socialist regime, or Stalinist Soviet Russia, or mass killing terrorists, or African tribal ethnic killings, demonstrates the importance of developing a realistic ethics for revolutionaries – fitting, for instance, the Syrian revolution.

      Trying to apply the norms of international humanitarian law to such situations is inappropriate and cannot work, while the absence of realistically applicable rules abandons the domain to normless behaviour. As revolutions are sure to characterize humanity for quite some time, because of transformative historic processes, there is much to learn from this, discussion of Castro’s explicit normative thinking, however probably idealized.

      Therefore, this book deserves attention by all concerned with global norms, who should take into account the realities of revolutionary processes so as to limit violence to what is realistically necessary and morally justified in such extraordinary situations.”

      Emeritus Prof Yehezkel Dror awards Dayan Jayatilleka’s book five out of five stars, the highest possible rating.

      ceylontoday.lk

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        “fascinating book discussing the author’s understanding of the ‘ethics of violence’”

        Realistic Ethics by a Zionist Jew is merely a display of animal instincts. Don’t you have the blood of Sinhalese and Tamils on your hands?

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    Is there truly no end to this man’s pomposities? He “doesn’t do vigils!” What crap in an effort to project erudition from a lapdog of the most corrupt and violent government this country has ever had the misfortune to encounter.

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    Tsunamisekera & Blacker:
    The pair are back, the latter having been relieved of his primary task of stacking female tamil bodies, it seems!
    “Two for the price of one” used to be the way one spoke of a real bargain. However, these two, one with his tattoos and the other with goodness knows what, do NOT fill that bill!
    Why doesn’t CT declare some kind of moratorium and not publish these two crazies for a few days, at leas?

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    Dayan,

    “..and it is a mystery how I can ‘return’ to a party I never joined even under Ranasinghe Premadasa!..”

    Bingo! Hypocrisy personified! Had RP phoenixed down into human form again and no sooner than read your above line he would have undone everything reborn of himself and buried himself 6 feet underground after cursing you for diabolical lying and treason! You played the role of chief advisor to RP, were part and parcel of UNP governance and policy making, ran all over the Borella cemetery in underpants due to your identification of yourself with UNP policies and the Borella cemetery crowed rightly identifying yourself with that identity, moreover in the recent history went to Geneva and represented the Rajapaksha regime, its policies and its defense of same and here comes in front of us and groan and moan you never attained puberty under either of the parties! Is this silly hypocrisy your nature or assumed? Who do you think we are and whom are you trying to fool? It is not the UNP or SLFP label or the membership that defines your affiliation but rather with whom and whose policies you were and are working. Why would you opt to vigil with JVP or FSP instead of neutral vigilers? Isn’t is because you want to identity yourself with JVP political identity (though with ulterior motives)? Is the MR government separate from SLFP or SLFP IS de facto the SL government? Did you attend Geneva debacle as a non-entity outside of MR government and SLFP or despite your claims YOU DID represent the SL government and THEREFORE SLFP? And one more thing. Why the hell are you so worried about UNP leadership if you are such an apolitical creature as you so ostrichly seem to claim-belonging to neither UNP, SLFP nor the Left, though in effect you are all over the place-only discharging your duties as the political scientist cum government servant?

    “..why don’t you worry how the UNP or anyone else will will return to office even in a Provincial Council as long as Ranil remains the leader of the Opposition and thus the main electoral alternative offered to the citizenry, who will not opt for him even if they have to eat ‘salt and rice’ as the saying goes, because he is regarded as an ‘anti-national’ appeaser of minoritarianism?..”

    Your last ditched hopes of joining “JVP and FSP spearheaded vigils” clearly suggest you are on the verge of “eating salt and rice”! And in a desperate attempt to misdirect and misguide the neutral vigils into “desperate political Left” who are hugely responsible for misleading the youths down the path of destruction both of themselves and of the country you bang on the internet kilobytes your vision of perversion politically orphaned! Let us deal with the issue that you have been lamenting for ages directly here. Like any organization or business does for its development, expansion and ultimate profitability and viability here comes the contestants for the leadership of UNP my horse being RW. Please submit your nominee with pros and cons of both as you perceive. There will a virtual sample panel of interviewers by way of CT readers-not the fifty centers paid by the regime-who will only concern with the facts and performance of the contestants and elect the winner impartially!

    Who put forward this “salt and rice eating” theory which is identical to the SLFPers’ moronic and barren political motto of Sirima era that went “Seeni nathiwa thea bonnam, miris nathiwa hodi kannam, agamathiniya kiyanawanam piduru wunath api kannam!” (heh..these fools believed she would bring down rice from moon!!!) which could only have invented and disseminated through the crooked and deranged imagination of a political creature tantamount to that of Dayan who could be the inventor of “salt and rice eating theory” as well! Not that people will have to eat “salt and rice” but they actually have been, looking at the barren highways, almost monthly basis failing Norochcholai, shipless Hambanthota, airplaneless Mattala, environmental ecosystem wildlife agricultural hydro and social catastrophe designed and bound to be perpetrated around Mattala in a desperate attempt to chase if not exterminate birds and elephants away, the stratospheric proportions of huge debts and corruption and the prospect of Cyprus like scenario taking place here bear ample evidence that the regime Dayan so heavily backed, blessed and invested has failed the entire country and that the people would never opt to eat “salt and rice” anymore but glaringly and blaringly want to rehearse the round-the-Borella-cemetery pants down fiasco extended to multitude of “salt and rice” suppliers!

    You are a bundle of contradiction where in a recent video you epitomize the necessary outcome of your MR regime suggesting Sinhalese having to live in a 2/3 of present land area like in the past Ruhunu, Pihiti and Maya if the trajectory of the regime continued further, citing examples from Sudan etc. DIRECTLY as a result of the utterly unstatemanly, undemocratic, uncivilized and chauvinistic policies and actions of YOUR regime, at the same time claiming Ranil as being “anti-national’ appeaser of minoritarianism?” What happened to your “political science” brilliance? Was it replaced with moronism? Your tested strategies, just wars, anti CFA advices have all ultimately made you lament about Sinhalese having to live in a 2/3 of Sri Lanka land area yet you never give up branding Ranil as “anti-national’ appeaser of minoritarianism!” Was and is this so? One of the great philosophers in the modern times once said, “your first step is the last step!” Ranil never advocated war but made all the influential world bodies that matter witness the peace negotiations, did not estrange a single country but established firm and lasting relations with countries that matter, did not entangle in confrontation but engaged with willing factions within LTTE which ultimately led to disintegration of same, did not step into the trap of venturing single-handedly trying to crush the LTTE but rather got US, Israel etc. to co-operate with us in levels governmental, military, logistic, strategic, training and consultancy etc., did not blindly jump into a destructive impoverishing war but rather superimposed on the terrorist, the South as well as North, the peace negotiation facilitators as well as the International Community an alternative to war, a development plan-Regaining Sri Lanka-as a prelude to the peace efforts and as an inducement and a subtle attitude shaker and replacer. As the first step contains the last step, had Ranil been allowed to proceed without Dayans, Mahindas, Chandrikas, JVPers et al fabricating just as right now as then utter lies, myths, fears and misconceptions about peace process this country in the worst scenario if at all would have to fight a war with the LTTE but not like the Mahinda did but with the consent and assistance of the world powers as the LTTE were so adamantly demanding a separate state thereby creating regional instability through its Tamilnadu and India implications, Sri Lanka would not be facing war crime and accountability issues but only reconciliation matters, that Sri Lankans would be fighting not with seat belts and rouser belts tightened but enjoying the fruits of development, foreign investment, good governance and democracy, that the debilitation and Convalescent period would be minimal and normal life restoring rapidly and all the other positive outcomes on the nation collectively. It is this future of our country, each one of us that Dayan who sounds a “witch doctor” rather than a so called self-styled “political scientist” is so desperately trying to withhold from us in his desperate attempt to pursue his perverted politics by referring to Ranil in terms “anti-national’ appeaser of minoritarianism”

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      Can’t you really see the difference between supporting Premadasa and supporting the UNP? I was indicted for rebelling against JRJ’s government. Now that was a UNP govt. Many who never supported the SLFP supported CBK, just as many who never supported the UNP supported Premadasa, and many UNP voters shifted to Mahinda Rajapaksa. Is that too complicated a reality for you to grasp? My support was for the two patriotic leaders Premadasa and Mahinda –whose similarities have been noted, especially in the matter of national sovereignty and independence– and the State at the time, not the ruling party of the day. In that sense I have had no party-political affiliation, except when I was an Asst Secretary of the SLMP.

      My point about the JVP and FSP is that it is only the Left , anywhere in the world, that can really combat racism , especially at the grassroots level, and in the streets. Without them, no real movement against racism and religious extremism is possible. That is because it is the Left in any country that is ideologically the least racist and is most immune to racism. Even today, the only politicians to speak out openly against the BBS are the JVP and FSP. This includes Rev Dambara Amila Thero.

      Let’s not waste time on Ranil, because the voters don’t and won’t. If he hadn’t discontinued and betrayed the successful LRRP operations that CBK initiated, we would have won the war much earlier by killing Prabhakaran and his commanders, just as Angola won its war by eliminating Jonas Savimbi— and we wouldn’t have had this huge uproar about civilian casualties.

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        “..Can’t you really see the difference between supporting Premadasa and supporting the UNP? I was indicted for rebelling against JRJ’s government. Now that was a UNP govt. Many who never supported the SLFP supported CBK, just as many who never supported the UNP supported Premadasa, and many UNP voters shifted to Mahinda Rajapaksa. Is that too complicated a reality for you to grasp? My support was for the two patriotic leaders Premadasa and Mahinda –whose similarities have been noted, especially in the matter of national sovereignty and independence– and the State at the time, not the ruling party of the day. In that sense I have had no party-political affiliation, except when I was an Asst Secretary of the SLMP..”

        Dayan your iguana-monitor theories are only as good as your educated-ignorance and duplicity. This is a convenient excuse promiscuous and unprincipled people like you put forward when they are caught pants down! One day an alcoholic crept up a jaggery palm to steel and drink the toddy that had been tapped on it but when the toddy robber got caught while still on top of the tree and when asked what the hell he was doing on the tree the reply given was that he had climbed up the tree to gather some grass for the cattle! The more you write this silly nonsense the greater would be the exposure of your ugly and sloppy politics-a self-styled political scientist availing of his full time and life time service to a once leader of UNP, involving himself in all major UNP political activities of RP as the leader of UNP but now denying he supported UNP!!!! You are such a pathetic loser Dayan! I wonder how people associate this person with talent and skill!!! I will give just one simpler example to expose the lunacy of your argument: your “pro-nationalist appeaser of minoritarianism” MR killed the terror leader psychopath Pirabaharan because he was a terrorist who WAS NOT as “pro-nationalist” as KP, Karuna or Daya Master WAS and IS in the opinion of MR! MR also killed Thamilselvan because there was no difference between Praba, Thamilselvan or LTTE-all belonged to same Highest Common Denominator LTTE! Now according to Dayan’s perversion theory it could be argued that killing of TS was a crime because TS was not a terrorist as he was not an LTTEer but simply one who supported Prabha because of his love or some kind of a feeling towards him and therefore Thamilselvam had nothing to do with the LTTE! Now we all saw Prabha’s father’s natural death after spending his life span. He too must have “supported” Prabha, obviously! But MR did not kill him but TS was! Why? Surely Dayan must learn from MR how to demarcate the idea “support” whereas we “really” have no problem categorizing Dayan as a UNPer in RP era, SLFPer during MR era and now trying to do some political jugglery and sleight of hand to secure his next “political incarnation” where he is simultaneously putting out the signal to the Left and Right signifying a “hybrid concoct politics”!

        “..I was indicted for rebelling against JRJ’s government. Now that was a UNP govt..”

        Yes, you are quite right! You really are or were not a UNPer but a Devadatta in the party! You conspired against your own party and JRJ! Conspiracy is your default nature and that time RP was the Trojan horse who was responsible for the destruction of UNP that JRJ built so painstakingly, systematically, scientifically and futuristically-nurturing not one but five successors to the leadership, writing an entire constitution, introducing a whole new economic policy to the country and implementing it expeditiously, built a parliamentary building, a city in his name (not like MR’s utopias), in short almost every urban benefit we enjoy today can be traced back to JR for origin and catalyst-which no leader in this country had done before! And against such a leader you rebelled! And this is exactly what you are doing against Ranil today-a heinous act that Devadatta did thousands of years ago against Lord Buddha! And we know for sure that you are destined for “political hell” for that!

        “..My support was for the two patriotic leaders Premadasa and Mahinda –whose similarities have been noted..”

        Your sentence ought to be revised, “..My support was for the two pathetic leaders Premadasa and Mahinda –whose similarities have been noted..” because these two including Chandrika are responsible for every problem and destruction we are facing today! You yourself have said a few days ago that if the MR regime continues like this the world will have no other option but to carve out a separate state for minorities and the Sinhalese will have a 2/3rd of the present land area! People gave overwhelming support to JR and JR did so much for the country. And then you “rebelled” against JR and your so called “patriotic” leader RP usurped power of UNP. What happened next everybody knows-when people are reminded of your “patriotic” era of RP they are horrified! And as a result of RP’s “noted patriotism” you ran around the Borella cemetery in your birthday suit! That is the reason why you write today in your next comment:

        “..1. Ranil didn’t just lose to MR after MR won the war. He lost to CBK when she hadn’t won it! ( 1999)..”

        Your grassroots and ‘street-roots’ level Left JVP and FSP too have a huge responsibility towards your above quoted comment who exactly like you chose to “rebel” against the democratically elected government with Galkatas, Salmon bombs, rolled chits, disruption and sabotage of civilian and government activities, terrorism, guerrilla war fare, misinformation campaigns etc. Even though your concoct mind cannot understand it and therefore utters:

        “..My point about the JVP and FSP is that it is only the Left , anywhere in the world, that can really combat racism , especially at the grassroots level, and in the streets. Without them, no real movement against racism and religious extremism is possible. That is because it is the Left in any country that is ideologically the least racist and is most immune to racism. Even today, the only politicians to speak out openly against the BBS are the JVP and FSP. This includes Rev Dambara Amila Thero..”

        we know fully well these policyless, visionless, baseless and rootless JVPers FSP included who are more flawedly devoid of any accepted, viable and supported economic system and whom I have already identified with all the negative traits in my above Galkatas and Salmon bomb paragraph cannot whatsoever deliver any hope or prospect for the country! How much seeds of terror, fear, misery and destruction have they sowed? How many thousands of youths of this country have they led to death and suffering? A bunch of people who invented and organized a “jungle economy” and sowed the seeds of “political racism” cannot ever be trusted or partnered to carry out a movement against racism and religious extremism which you so naively advocate! This is so obvious! Look at the debt trap Dayan’s “patriotic” leader MR and his regime has ensnared this country! Not only are debt traps but what about the accountability, reconciliation, HR violations issues that the country has been heavily inflicted upon by him? Can or will the Left and their “imagined would support them” countries bail this country out? Hasn’t Dayan’s “patriotic” and “pro-nationalist appeaser of minoritarianism” Diyasena Kumaraya handed over the destiny of this country into the hands of “colonial imperialists” again against whom Dayan’s Left clamor against whenever they come down to the “streets” (onto which Dayan never comes practically except theoretically as did in this post!!) This is another desperate Dayan jugglery in search of his personal political ambition as he did in the days of JR.

        “..Let’s not waste time on Ranil, because the voters don’t and won’t. If he hadn’t discontinued and betrayed the successful LRRP operations that CBK initiated, we would have won the war much earlier by killing Prabhakaran and his commanders, just as Angola won its war by eliminating Jonas Savimbi— and we wouldn’t have had this huge uproar about civilian casualties..”

        Once rebellion especially during JR era would always be a rebellion because that is what he does for a living and not something as a matter of correct principles. If one goes by the principles, democracy, good governance, winning foreign nations, economic and development aids, restoration of justice, law and order, independence of judiciary, freedom of press, shelving the present constitution and writing a new one which is more people and country friendly and reasonably solving the minority problem in the country Ranil is the last person left in the whole country. He is the last link between the DS Senanayakes, JRs, NM Pereras, Chelva and the present generation. He has seen all this happening throughout the political history of this country of our era. He is the moderate character who can be relied upon by everybody including the International community. Look at the all the other options that we have. They are all racists or racist-conquerable characters. Sajith and Karu are hopeless! We have confronted a great political void and a crisis for which the chief culprit is RP and terror psychopath Pirabaharan. But again SWRDB too shares responsibility. In Dayan’s own correct words, a Sinhalese’s and Buddhists’ only country cannot be defended internationally, but a multi-ethnic, multi-religious country can be! And who has got the proven record to do that? Only RW! Dayan will raise his empty voice against RW as he always does because he can’t do anything else now as he has been black-listed now in the UNP! Moreover he claims he never was a UNPer! And we do not want non-UNPers to have a greater say in the affairs of the party! And then the final question arises: why the hell is this moron Dayan bears labour for UNP while it is the UNP that is going to deliver the baby! This non-UNPer Dayan and Sirasa media whore are having a great ass trouble about UNP leadership!!!!!

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      Ranga, why don’t you and your co-thinkers face the facts:

      1. Ranil didn’t just lose to MR after MR won the war. He lost to CBK when she hadn’t won it! ( 1999)
      2. RW lost to MR in 2005, not because the LTTE boycotted but because his electoral strategy, unlike that of MR, was vulnerable to an LTTE boycott.
      3. RW has up-ended the UNP’s electoral performances so that the figure that was the UNP’s traditional base vote (40%) is now its ceiling!
      4. Campaigning just after the death of her husband Gamini, madam Srima Dissanaike , who was not even a UNP member, got 43% of the vote at the tail-end of 17 years of UNP rule, while RW can’t take the UNP anywhere close to that figure despite 19 years of CBK-MR governance.
      5. As long as RW is UNP leader, those who defected to the Govt won’t return and their vote bases won’t either. Nor will disaffected SLFPers, frustrated by family rule, cross over to the opposition which they know cannot win under RW. Still less will the Armed Forces and their families, an important new vote base, switch away from the regime, so long as RW is the alternative. HOWEVER, the UNPers who defected, plus their vote bases, plus disgruntled SLFPers and their voters, plus the Forces and their families may well switch, IF and ONLY IF, some one other than RW leads the UNP, the Opposition and is the candidate. He or she would have to be moderate nationalist who can be trusted to defend sovereignty and be firm on security issues. That rules out RW. Of course you guys can succeed in keeping him as Opp leader and candidate and have a long entrenchment of the status quo and the deterioration of the country’s situation and prospects.

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        Dayan,

        “..Ranga, why don’t you and your co-thinkers face the facts:.. “

        We do, but you don’t! You are on a willful facts distortion and misinformation dissemination campaign as a payroll beneficiary of both the regime and Karu-Sajith putrefaction.

        “..1. Ranil didn’t just lose to MR after MR won the war. He lost to CBK when she hadn’t won it! ( 1999)..”

        Thanks to Dayan’s “pro-nationalist appeaser of minoritarianism” RP’s five-star democracy where he completely messed up the IPKF issue, JVP issue, UNP leadership issue, misuse of Executive Presidency, getting intoxicated with Presidential powers, one-upmanship measures, treasure hunting with his son and the various tales surrounding him with maiden girls and sacrifices etc., RP “up-ended UNP’s electoral performance so that the UNP’s traditional base vote (40%) is now its ceiling!” and paved the way for Chandrika to grab power! Even today if you talk to anyone who raises his sarong to the regime he would curse and be horror-stricken of UNP remembering the dark and terror era of RP which Dayan regurgitate with so much glee and admiration!

        “.. 2. RW lost to MR in 2005, not because the LTTE boycotted but because his electoral strategy, unlike that of MR, was vulnerable to an LTTE boycott..”

        Who expects a mass vote boycott in a democracy? Does an election in a democracy tantamount to a war zone where every form of enemy defeating and annihilation tactic is practiced? If so where have the elements of reasonable submission of facts as to one’s achievements, impartial and influence free undistorted judgment of his choice depending on the merits and services of the candidates on the part of the voter and absence of hate campaigns gone? And how does Dayan say such a mass vote boycott must be compensated for in the South? Rig the vote? Dayan must first learn the basic principles of democracy. A true democratic leader assumes and pursues an incrementally refining, bettering, progressive and not retrogressive electoral, governance, civil administrative, civil educational and civil consciousness and behavioral pattern. When such a leader who is Ranil and his election campaign is assaulted with a completely antidemocratic, corrupt and criminal vote boycott then it is the inalienable human rights of the citizenry and the very democracy that is at the risk and deprivation and not a lack on the part of the opposition election campaign or Ranil. It is the duty of the people to reject such a distorted election result and a fraudulent winner and not dabble with amateurish and childish limping theories like Dayan does always! By the way what was Dayan’s “pro-nationalist appeaser of minoritarianism” leader’s electoral campaign strategy to inch ahead of Ranil and rob the election? To bribe the psychopath terror leader!? Did you fall out with Ranil because he did not strategize such a heinous approach for a democratic win?

        “.. 4. Campaigning just after the death of her husband Gamini, madam Srima Dissanaike , who was not even a UNP member, got 43% of the vote at the tail-end of 17 years of UNP rule, while RW can’t take the UNP anywhere close to that figure despite 19 years of CBK-MR governance..”

        This is right where Dayan’s moronic perception meets that of the majority common mutt in the country so seamlessly! You compare gold with cow-dung! And your arguments are full of this dung! “madam Srima Dissanaike!!!” My foot..! What the hell are you talking about? Where is this lady now? And that promiscuous ass-dancer Paba too obtained more votes than your father figure Karu Jayasuriya! And where are all these nobodies now? Aren’t they all in the political dustbin now like you are? And despite all kinds of lie campaigns, conspiracies, leg pulling, pole-vaulting and summersaulting, regime patronaged and massively spent misinformation dissemination campaigns against Ranil hasn’t he still so masterfully managed to protect UNP against disintegration in front of a most corrupt and powerful autocratic megalomaniac in MR? The reason why Ranil did not get to office in all these years is not his fault but the ignorance of swarming voting mutts without an iota of rational gray matter in their heads coupled with vote rigging and state-scale committing of election violations and corruptions. Your very insinuations to Ranil in this anti BBS vigil which had nothing to do with Ranil or his election campaigns is very much part of this ulterior, clandestine and perversion project committed against Ranil and UNP! How much are you paid for this because you don’t do any other job for living your luxurious life and therefore somebody has to pay you to commit this jugglery?

        “..5. As long as RW is UNP leader, those who defected to the Govt won’t return and their vote bases won’t either. Nor will disaffected SLFPers, frustrated by family rule, cross over to the opposition which they know cannot win under RW. Still less will the Armed Forces and their families, an important new vote base, switch away from the regime, so long as RW is the alternative. HOWEVER, the UNPers who defected, plus their vote bases, plus disgruntled SLFPers and their voters, plus the Forces and their families may well switch, IF and ONLY IF, some one other than RW leads the UNP, the Opposition and is the candidate. He or she would have to be moderate nationalist who can be trusted to defend sovereignty and be firm on security issues. That rules out RW. Of course you guys can succeed in keeping him as Opp leader and candidate and have a long entrenchment of the status quo and the deterioration of the country’s situation and prospects..”

        Dayan, close your eyes and make your last wish because I am going to hit the last nail in your coffin! As long as RW is UNP leader, those who defected to the Govt CANNOT return to UNP! This is exactly the problem with you all leg pullers and conspirators-you have been rendered unable to dupe the majority mutts in another deception cycle as UNP candidates because you all are now UNP deserters blacklisted and condemned! And don’t worry about the “vote bases” of deserters because they have none now! Rajapaksha familial rule is now in a great dilemma as to how to give nominations to these defectors because then the SLFP candidates would fall out from the Rajapaksha concoct regime of incongruities! Moreover these defectors too are realizing day by day that not only them but their families too are at stake one day in this political gamble. Therefore the Rajapakshas as well as the defectors desperately want to dump an asshole as the opposition leader so that they all can in unison unleash a fresh wave of citizenry exploitation under a different guise! Another matter of concern for them is that if the International Community pursues accountability issues and a regime change effected as a result, having their “friends” in the “probing government” would surely yield decisions characteristic to those of the corrupt present Attorney General’s Dept. Dayan goes on writing about non-crossover of disaffected SLFPers etc. under Ranil which is sheer wet-dreams he used to experience! With looming International interventions and sanctions, Zimbabwe type inflation, negative economy like Chandrika era, government and country bankruptcy, power crisis and price hikes, essential commodity prices hikes, state suppression, repression and terrorism, nonexistence of the rule of law and the virtual return of the country to the Sirima’s beggar’s and meager and miserable era Dayan’s wish list is just litany arising out of frustration. Despite my demand in a previous comment he is still looking for his “some he or she” who will be challenging and replacing Ranil! Dayan, this is a free country-at least it used to be-and you have the right to dream your wet-dreams, but we are more concerned about reality and living and not about ideological suicide!

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    Lets not discuss Dayan’s gymnastics. He is a gymnast no doubt and there are so many of them, making it difficult to distinguish between the wogs and yakkos. We are really not interested in him and his Geneva accomplishments. We are interested in what he has to say, because it matters to us :

    The [edited out] need to do this- – ” throw their support and resources behind an effort to turn the electoral marketplace competitive again” . He is right here.

    He is correct here as well – ” Only an inter-Yakko conflict can do the trick. You need a Yakko-ish [edited out] or a [edited out]Yakko to change the game. ” . Very sharp thinking here.

    But he appears to be mathematically inept in his assessment requiring ‘a majority of the majority’- with Sinhalese pretenders making 75% ( We need to do a genetic test on them to confirm this).

    The winners need not get ‘ a majority of the majority ‘. The winners need to get only 25% (of the 75% block). When you combine that with the 25% non Sinhalese vote (thanks to BBS) you can get 50%. So there is no need to salivate over the Majority of the Majority – which is precisely what the Rajapasksha are thinking .

    Surprised that Dayan has swallowed it as well ? thought he is smarter than that.

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      Now that’s JUST the thinking that lost RW the election in 2005 and SF the election in 2010.

      Why did the LTTE boycott affect RW and not MR?

      Either the minorities don’t vote en bloc for a candidate who cannot swing the majority or the very fact of solid minority support actually triggers a swing by the majority away from that ‘minoritarian’ candidate to the more ‘patriotic’ one.

      However bad the economic crunch gets, all it needs is some videos of the monks getting beaten in Tamil Nadu, some interviews with Suresh Premachandran calling for an interim administration outside the Constitution, and some footage of the UNP’s leader seated with the TNA in Jaffna…and how do you think the vote will go, even if the entire 25% (the minority vote) goes for the UNP?

      Here’s a test: the upcoming PC elections take place in two former strongholds of the UNP, i.e. the NWP and the WP: can the UNP get much over 30% or is even 30% a tough call?

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        “..Surprised that Dayan has swallowed it as well ? thought he is smarter than that…”

        “..Now that’s JUST the thinking that lost RW the election in 2005 and SF the election in 2010.

        Why did the LTTE boycott affect RW and not MR?

        Either the minorities don’t vote en bloc for a candidate who cannot swing the majority or the very fact of solid minority support actually triggers a swing by the majority away from that ‘minoritarian’ candidate to the more ‘patriotic’ one…”

        Neither Dayan nor the king has missed it! On the contrary this is what they have been working at all these years disseminating utter lies under a Rajapakshas backed Goebbels theory that Ranil is anti-Sinhalese, pro-minority, pro Tamil, pro-Elam and all such types of pseudo-ghosts that speak to the majority mutts in the country. The quack Doctor comes along and say that the regime is wrong, UN will take stern action against the country if the regime continues to persecute the minorities, that a Sinhalsese only country cannot be defended internationally etc. which are real facts and dangers but at the same time he launches his assigned duty of Rajapakshas by using the credence generated by speaking such facts to undermine the credence of Ranil and UNP! Kiri Yakka’s thinking is right that there is no need to salivate over the majority of the majority for regime change. But then how does the regime win elections? It is purely by vote rigging!!! Somawansa Amarasinghe that political mutt who engaged in every laundry operation to bring this despot to power has recently confessed MR himself admitting this fact and he is even prepared to testify in a court of law to support the claim! Dayan would never under any circumstances want to see the end of this regime and be a representative of truth, democracy, good governance and therefore a man of principles and dignity. Why do I say this? Because he says: “My support was for the two patriotic leaders Premadasa and Mahinda –whose similarities have been noted, especially in the matter of national sovereignty and independence”! (What sovereignty and independence have they secured so far except wholesale submission and contempt of the country to all evil influences of the world?) So as of now, MR is Dayan’s role model and idol! All the criticisms he levels against the regime are just fake assertions to divert the attention somewhere else and as part of another subtle autocrat’s ploy to weaken UNP and Ranil! The day a government is formed consisting of unbiased people Dayan would have to find a “nattami job” in Pettah bazaar! It is against this reality that Dayan is working relentlessly!

        “..However bad the economic crunch gets, all it needs is some videos of the monks getting beaten in Tamil Nadu, some interviews with Suresh Premachandran calling for an interim administration outside the Constitution, and some footage of the UNP’s leader seated with the TNA in Jaffna…and how do you think the vote will go, even if the entire 25% (the minority vote) goes for the UNP?

        Here’s a test: the upcoming PC elections take place in two former strongholds of the UNP, i.e. the NWP and the WP: can the UNP get much over 30% or is even 30% a tough call?..”

        The way things unfold not only monks but Dayan too run the risk of rehearsing Borella cemetery saga in a foreign country. By Dayan himself it has been proved beyond any doubt now it is Dayan’s idol MR and not Ranil who will make Sinhalese live in 2/3rd of present land area relegating and shelving “interim administration and outside constitution” matters into thin air but the prospect of a separate state for minorities becoming a reality! The cry of the whole world including US, UN et al, India, the moderate and educated people, the clergy, the peace and democracy loving people and the majority of civilized Sinhalese is that at least “the UNP leader be seated with the TNA in Jaffna” and end this racial conflict and make Sri Lanka the country of all its peoples. Despite Dayan’s and MR’s injection of racist and nationalistic venom into the common consciousness of the Sinhalese I don’t think the majority would now be mutts enough to be deceived by this type of facts distortions. Dayan’s and MR’s last resort is as ever before to rig the vote; that is why MR said his fortune teller has given him the most auspicious time for the conduct of Elections in North and therefore he would definitely win the elections! He said the same thing before he ran for Presidential Election against SF-“I am the president of this country today, tomorrow and even after the elections”-telltale signs of a vote rig! But this time though there is a difference: India, US, UN and others will be closely monitoring the conduct of the regime and any adverse publicity and actions will definitely yield disastrous results for the country! The common mutt of whose intellect Dayan and MR is very happy would receive the gift of 2/3rd from UN ultimately! That crook Mervyn Silva has already reserved his grave and his low-caste deeds would be spoken of and despised of for years and the carcass of an astray dog will be honored on top of his! Dayan, it is time you think of you and your hereafter, UNP and Ranil can look after their own affairs without your advice!

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      Kiri Yakka

      “making it difficult to distinguish between the wogs and yakkos.”

      Could you define these two groups and state their differences?

      I will be most grateful.

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