Kumarathasan Rasingam
Throughout the centuries from the dawn of history, the Sinhalese and Tamil nations divided between themselves the possession of Ceylon, the Sinhalese inhabiting the interior of the country in its southern and western parts from the river Walawa to that of Chilaw and the Tamils possessing the Northern and Eastern parts.
The Tamil Kingdom was overthrown and conquered by the Portuguese and ruled from 1619 to 1658 and then by the Dutch from 1658 to 1795 and the British from 1795 to 1948. During the Portuguese and Dutch rule, the Tamil Kingdom and Sinhalese Kingdom were administered as separate units. The British for the purpose of easy administration on the recommendation of the Colebrooke Commission joined the Sinhala Kingdoms and Tamil Kingdom in 1833.
It should be noted that the Tamil Kingdom flourished under Tamil Kings for 800 years under Ariya Chakravathies, the foregoing facts of history were completely overlooked by the British and the power over the entire country were transferred to the Sinhala Nation in the basis of a numerical majority, thereby reducing the Tamil Nation to the position of subject people. The successive Sri Lankan Governments since independence have always encouraged and fostered the aggressive Sinhala/Buddhist nationalism of the Sinhalese people and have used their political power to the detriment of the Tamils.
* Immediately after the independence in 1948 the citizenship and franchise of the Tamils of Indian origin [who were brought by the British to work in their coffee and tea plantations] thereby reducing the Tamil representation in Parliament.
* Making serious inroads into the territories of the former Tamil Kingdom by a system of planned and state aided Sinhalese colonization and large scale of recently encouraged Sinhalese encroachments calculated to make Tamils a minority in their own homeland.
* Making Sinhala the only official language throughout the country thereby placing the stamp of inferiority on the Tamils and the Tamils being deprived of Government employment.
* By giving the foremost place to Buddhism under the Republican Constitution in 1972 thereby reducing the Hindus, Christians, and Muslims to second class citizens in the country.
* Denying to the Tamil speaking people equality of opportunity in the sphere of employment, education, land alienation and economic life in general and starving Tamil areas of large-scale industries and development endangering their very existence in Sri Lanka.
* Unleashing pogroms, communal violence, and intimidation against the Tamil speaking people in 1956, 1958, 1971, 1977, 1981, 1983 and full-scale war from 2006-2009. Army terror and oppression in the North and East of Sri Lanka and numerous massacres, torture rape etc.
* Police violence at the International Tamil Conference in 1974, resulting in the death of nine persons. All these are calculated to instill terror in the minds of the Tamil speaking people thereby breaking the spirit and the will to resist injustice heaped on them.
* Under the draconian Prevention of Terrorism Act [PTA] terrorizing, torturing and imprisoning Tamil youths without trial for long period on the flimsiest grounds. Some are still in jail for more than a decade without charges or trial.
* The Republican Constitution adopted on the 27th of May 1972 has made Tamil nation a slave nation ruled by new colonial master. The Sinhalese who are using the power they have wrongly usurped are depriving the Tamil Nation of its territory, language economy, opportunities of employment and education thereby destroying all the attributes of nationhood of the Tamil people.
This Convention resolves that restoration and reconstruction of the free, sovereign, secular state of TAMIL EELAM based on the right of self-determination inherent to every nation, has become inevitable in order to safeguard the very existence of the TAMIL NATION of this country.
12 years on, after the end of the brutal genocidal war that left 200,000 lives killed the Tamil people are continuing to be subjected to well programmed structural genocide by the Sri Lankan state. The Tamils who have been living in their traditional homeland in the North and East of the island of Sri Lanka for thousands of years are facing a well-planned and systematic annihilation. Archaeological evidences of the Tamils ancient and rich history are being destroyed and are built up with BUDDHIST STRUCTURES
The collective demands and wishes of the Tamil people to manage their political, social, economic and cultural affairs are completely denied to them even after 12 year the brutal war ended. The continuing sit-in protests by mothers of their missing ones for more than three years and other protests marching from Puttalam to Polikanday [P to P] emerged from the effects of war are being completely ignored by the Sri Lankan state. The Sri Lankan state is deliberately and meticulously decimating, the Tamil’s history by colonizing Sinhala/Buddhists in the North and East [The Traditional & Historical home land of the Tamils for centuries]
In conclusion, it is important to quote what the Washington Post, August 4, 1983 said about the situation in Sri Lanka “If living together is so hard, what about a separate state in the north for the Tamils? They have as good a claim to a nation of their own as most members of the United Nations. But as always it is a question of power, and in Sri Lanka the Sinhalese have the power. Do they also have the wisdom to see that the Tamil minority is treated in a way that justifies its retention within a unitary state?”. (Quoting from the book The Pen & The gun by S. Sivanayagam – page 75)
When Tamil Eelam was justified in 1983, is there any reason to deny in 2009 after the worst massacres amounting to genocide were carried out after 1983.
*Kumarathasan Rasingam – Secretary, Tamil Canadian Elders for Human Rights Org.
Punchi Point / February 1, 2022
Rasingam, Eelam is the country of the Sinhalese as per absolutely all Tamil history and literary works. Also according to Tamil history, Tamils migrated here in recent years (Ref. Yaalpana Vaipava Malai).
20th century politically motivated history telling by Tamils is not going to change the fact that the Tamils are a relatively recent diaspora of Tamilnadu. Also there was no legitimate Tamil kingdom here, ever. The so-called Jaffna kingdom was nothing but a Pandyan occupation which started with the brutal invasion in 1284 AD, and morphed into a forced settlement starting from 1310 AD, after the fall of Pandyans and the subsequent Muslim invasion and rule of Tamilnadu. Demanding to get back a colonial type brutal occupation, though it is a pre-European colonial occupation, goes against the principals of self-determination in international law. Tamil self-determination is already established in Tamilnadu, and trying to get self-determination to a recent diaspora of Tamilnadu in Srilanka too is totally unjust to the indigenous Sinhalese and goes against the irrevocable right of the Sinhalese people’s right to self-determination throughout the island. The UN must mediate and the Tamils must be given their right to go back to Tamilnadu.
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palmsquirrel / February 1, 2022
While the Sinhalese colonized the island 2500 years ago and Tamils around 1500 years ago Tamil would have been on the island long before the Sinhalese because Tamils and other Dravidian peoples were living in South India long before the Sinhalese landed in Ceylon.
If Tamils go back to Tamil Nadu then you Sinhalese need to go back to Orissa, Bengal and South India because you are not native to Sri Lanka, you are invaders who genocided the Veddah.
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Native Vedda / February 1, 2022
palmsquirrel
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“………………… you are not native to Sri Lanka, you are invaders who genocided the Veddah.”
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Thanks for remembering genocide.
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Punchi Point / February 1, 2022
So Sinhalese are native to Orissa, Bengal and Tamilnadu!? LMAO. Tamils have a very funny understanding of what native is. FYI, there were no Sinhalese anywhere in India for the Sinhalese to have migrated from India or anywhere else. Sinhalese are the indigenous people of this island, who evolved indigenously from primitive tribes, in this island, at times assimilating and absorbing whoever came and settled here as friends – compare that to the Tamils who evolved in Tamilnadu and later came here, by brutal invasion, massacre and ethnic cleansing of the innocent Sinhalese people. Tamils have most certainly not been here for 1500 years – the first Tamils settlements were made here in the mid 14th century, after the fall of the Pandyan kingdom in Tamilnadu. BTW, the Vaeddas are one of the tribes that form the Sinhalese, as such the Vaeddas are unmixed Sinhalese or you could say, Sinhalese are mixed Vaeddas, which is proven by the linguistic and genetic affinity between the Sinhalese and the Vaeddas, while the Tamils show absolutely no affinity linguistically or genetically towards the Vaeddas, which is impossible, had the Tamils been here from time immemorial, as claimed by Tamils.
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Native Vedda / February 2, 2022
Punchi Point
Punchi Brain
Punchi Willi
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“So Sinhalese are native to Orissa, Bengal and Tamilnadu!?”
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Sinhalese are the descendants of Kallthonies from South India who over a time converted to Sinhala/Buddhism.
Check your DNA, compare it with Seeman’s DNA.
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Punchi Willi
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“FYI, there were no Sinhalese anywhere in India for the Sinhalese to have migrated from India or anywhere else.”
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I can gladly say you won’t find any dumb asses like you anywhere in the universe other than this island.
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Are you familiar with the process of “language replacement”. This process won’t change your genetic structure however over a period of time your descendants start using a dominant language or a blend of two or more languages.
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Genetically you remain a descendant of Kallathonie Demela, while learning a new language which is dominant because ………………………………….
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You cannot afford to remain a dumb ass forever. Go learn why descendants of kallthonie Demelas have adapted a different language altogether.
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Mahila / February 2, 2022
PP,
“…by BRUTAL INVASION, MASSACRE AND ETHNIC CLEANSING of the innocent Sinhalese people”
What do you describe, happened 2500 years ago, when 700+ miscreants and outlawed castaways arrived on the Northern coast of SL?
They were welcomed with open hands and settled down, with the leader entering wedded life with Kuveni, the indigenous head of the inhabitants of then SL
When they got 700 princess from the Pandya’s in South India, they banished or Killed Kuveni and her children and lived happily thereafter.
No Invasion, No Massacre and willingly and ably executed!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice story, same process, as the Pandiya invasion, and end result, but you say, forefathers of Sinhalese were humane!!!!!!!!!!
Or, are you confusing the Kalinga Invasion during Pollonnaruwa kingdom?
Any case very interesting Punchi story.
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Native Vedda / February 1, 2022
Punchi Point
Punchi Brain
Punchi Willi
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“Eelam is the country of the Sinhalese as per absolutely all Tamil history and literary works.”
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Please cite from your Tamil Literary works where it clearly support your claim. If you can’t its alright.
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“Also according to Tamil history, Tamils migrated here in recent years (Ref. Yaalpana Vaipava Malai).”
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Please cite chapter, verse, page no, year of publication, ……. If you can’t then its alright.
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“The so-called Jaffna kingdom was nothing but a Pandyan occupation which started with the brutal invasion in 1284 AD”
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Please refer to your favourite archeologist/historian:
கலிங்கமாகன் பற்றிய கொமரன்கடவெல கல்வெட்டு – கலாநிதி கா இந்திரபாலா, தமிழ் Mirror, page 3, 4 December 2021
http://subs.epaper.lk/Epaper_Digital/Read/13/9/1067
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இலங்கை தமிழர் வரலாறும் பண்பாடும் – பேராசிரியர் சி பத்மநாதன் வீரகேசரி, series of articles published by Virakesary on every Sunday, the last issue was the 87th article and continuing.
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N. Perera / February 4, 2022
Facts about Sri Lanka (Heladiva later Ceylon) As per the latest CIA report Sinhalese Aryans 74.9%, Moors 9.2% Tamils 11.2% Indian Tamils 4.2% and others 0.5% In Malaysia Bumiputera (Malays) 57.3% Chinese 22.9% Indian Tamils & Indian 6.6% & Others 0.8%. Religious wise 61.3% Islam 19.8% Buddhism Christians 9.2%, Hinduism 6.3%, Chinese Folk 0.7%, Unknown 0.5%. Even Kamala Harris Tamil also and she knows this real fact, unfortunately, there is no Nation for Tamils in the world
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Punchi Point / February 4, 2022
Sinhalese are not Aryans or Dravidians or anything else. Sinhalese are just Sinhalese, the indigenous people of this island.
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Punchi Point / February 1, 2022
“Tamil Kingdom flourished under Tamil Kings for 800 years under Ariya Chakravathies…”
Arya Chakravarti was the general the Pandyan king Kulasekara sent to invade the Sinhalese kingdom in 1284 AD. This Tamil invasion and subsequent occupation was done in a most cunning and lowly manner, because it came as a result of the appeal the Sinhalese king made to the Pandyan king Kulasekara to help him get rid of the Javansese prince Chandrabanu’s son who had occupied Jaffna (then Javapatuna) and recover the the tooth relic Chandrabanu had previously robbed and his son was now keeping. The Pandyans came here in the pretext of aiding the Sinhalese, but after the Pandyans had defeated Chandrabanu’s son, instead of handing over the tooth relic and going back, Aryacharavarti went back and gave the tooth relic to Kulasekara Pandyan. It was only after many appeals from the Sinhalese king that Kulasekara handed it back to us, but the Tamil occupation continued in Jaffna as a military outpost with Aryachakravarti’s leadership. At that time the population of Jaffna was still Sinhalese, as the mass migration and colonisation of Jaffna by Tamils had not started yet.
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Punchi Point / February 1, 2022
In 1310 king Kulasekara died and his two sons started fighting for the Pandyan throne. One son appealed to Delhi Sultanate for help and Malik Kafur came in the pretext of helping to settle the dispute, but it actually was a full scale invasion by the Muslims and Muslims took over the whole of the Pandyan kingdom. That was also the end of the ancient Pandyan kingdom. Ironically it was the same kind of trick Kulasekara Pandyan pulled on the Sinhalese some 25 years prior, when he sent Aryachakravarti to invade the Sinhalese kingdom. When Vijayanagar Empire ended Muslim rule for good in Tamilnadu, around 1340 AD, Pandyan possessions fell to Vijayanagar Empire. After some time they claimed overlordship over Pandyan occupied territory here too, which was mostly Jaffna peninsula. It was during the turmoil that happened with the disintegration of the Pandyan kingdom during the Muslim occupation and Vijayanagar takeover of Tamilnadu, that Tamils started to migrate to Jaffna, and that area slowly transformed into a Tamil settlement by ethnic cleansing the Sinhalese, with Aryachakravartis controlling the area. These Aryachakravartis were never real royalty at all nor was there any legitimate Tamil kingdom in Jaffna ever.
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Native Vedda / February 1, 2022
Punchi Point
Punchi Brain
Punchi Willi
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“Arya Chakravarti was the general the Pandyan king Kulasekara sent to invade the Sinhalese kingdom in 1284 AD. “
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Vijaya was a thug ( a violent, lawless, or vicious person, especially one who commits a crime such as assault, robbery, or murder) who was exiled by his own father. We can see the same trait among those who actively support fascists and all forms of thuggery and against minorities, Sinhalese and Buddhists.
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Now it appears you lot have got rid of the intellectuals, skilled, scholars, professionals, .. and left with only crooks, murderers, dumbasses, …………. see where the country has gone.
Go beg from Hindia, Bangladesh, Somalia, Burundi, Afghanistan, ………… all you have to do is tell them Sri Lanka is Sinhala/Buddhist country, President is a practicing Sinhala/Buddhist who goes to Vihares everyday, who single handedly fought and won a war against LTTE, …………….. Our last resort are our Sinhala/Buddhist Sanghas will save the people, if not Gota.
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Punchi Point / February 1, 2022
Sinhalese were weary of decades of war against the Pandyas, the Javanese etc, starting from Magha’s invasion in 1215 AD, that the Sinhalese could not go to full scale war against the remnants of the Pandyan empire nor the Vijayanagar empire, and Tamils continued to flow in here, ethnic cleansing the Sinhalese from the north, as the Yalpana Vaipava Malai amply documents. Sinhalese did try to chase the Tamils back, several times during the 150 years that followed the Vijayanagar victory against the Muslims in Tamilnadu, until 1505 when the Portuguese came here, but Tamils got military aid from their ethnic kin in Tamilnadu and kept on holding to the northern parts and spread to the east too. Then the Portuguese came here in 1505, about 150 years after the first Tamil colonisation started, and it has been a continuous tragedy for the innocent Sinhalese people. Sinhalese territorial rights and right to self-determination have been seriously infringed, by Tamil and European Imperialists. Had the Sinhalese not being under European imperial occupation, the Sinhalese would have been able to regain lost territory and sent the Tamils back to Tamilnadu.
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Punchi Point / February 1, 2022
These Tamils are now claiming a separate state here, citing the existence of a so-called Tamil kingdom in Jaffna, which was nothing but a Pandyan occupation which morphed into a forced Tamil settlement! This Pandyan occupation which started in 1284, made the basis for mass Tamil migration here starting around 1330-1340 and has been the beginning of this never ending conflict. This issue has to be taken up in the UN as soon as possible, and make necessary legal arrangements for the Tamils to be granted their right to go back to Tamilnadu. The alternative is never ending war, either as one state or two states, because a tiny island like Srilanka, cannot accommodate two such hostile groups, not solely due to its small size, but also due to its the natural topography, namely the island is without any natural barriers to serve as borders. No international law allows for recent diasporas like the Tamils in Srilanka to carve out separate states. Unjust Tamil demands and terrorist acts have ruined this country. The UN must refer the Sinhalese-Tamil problem to the International Court of Justice, as soon as possible, to get a recommendation/judgement that we can all follow.
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old codger / February 1, 2022
PP,
“No international law allows for recent diasporas like the Tamils in Srilanka to carve out separate states.”
What a legal genius you are!!
So, people who arrived in 1284 according to you, are illegal immigrants? At one stroke you have demolished the legitimacy of states like Australia, UK, USA, Russia, China, etc.
Truly, you are a prime example of the Sinhalayo’s supreme intellect! Would you like to share your ge- name just once, to make sure your unsuspecting ancestors arrived earlier?
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Native Vedda / February 1, 2022
old codger
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“So, people who arrived in 1284 according to you, are illegal immigrants? At one stroke you have demolished the legitimacy of states like Australia, UK, USA, Russia, China, etc.”
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Are you winding up SJ?
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old codger / February 2, 2022
Native,
“Are you winding up SJ?”
I was toying with the idea.
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soma / February 1, 2022
Mr Rasingham
You are writing one article after another on Colombo Telegraph over atrocities committed by the Sinhalese only to fall on deaf ears of Tamils who consider Sinhala Buddhist society is far superior to a Tamil only enclave.
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I am writing one comment after another on Colombo Telegraph expressing my unstinted support for a separate Homeland for Tamils only to be accused as a racist by the Tamils who fear the eventual requirement of relocation into a Tamil only enclave.
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MY DEAR EALAMIST BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
There is only one way forward for you.
Organise an intensive campaign under the leadership of Wingeshwarn and TNA directed at all Tamil speaking people presently living outside North East encouraging to relocate themselves into the would-be Homeland.
If and when such an effort would show any trace of success and my Tamil brothers and sisters starts leaving us that day I will feel ashamed as a Sinhalese and join you as an active partner of your struggle.
Disagreement to such a proposal only demonstrates your shameless inferiority complex and naked hypocrisy.
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Soma
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Native Vedda / February 1, 2022
soman
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“You are writing one article after another on Colombo Telegraph over atrocities committed by the Sinhalese ……………”
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Don’t be silly.
Like their Tamil brethren Sinhalese are very stupid.
It was a relatively new race the Sinhala/Buddhist which committed atrocities starting from 1971.
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Look now the same ruling lot the Sinhala/Buddhists who with intent to destroy, in whole, committing genocide all over the island by starving the people.
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soma / February 1, 2022
Can a Tamil reader on CT please tell me this gentleman K Rasingham is using the words Tamil Nation , Tamil People to describe
ALL Tamil speaking people scattered across the island irrespective of their religion, caste or the date of arrival?
( Some Tamils are as ancient as the Sinhalese, some arrived during the Dutch, some arrived during the British, some practise Hinduism, some Christianity and others Islam, some are high caste , others low caste)
OR
Only Hindu/ Christian Tamil community in Jaffna?
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Soma
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Native Vedda / February 1, 2022
soman
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“Can a Tamil reader on CT please tell me this gentleman K Rasingham is using the words Tamil Nation , Tamil People to describe…..)
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Grow up
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A nation constitute the following:
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. A common postulated interrelationship – a “blood” bond between members. This blood relationship may be actual, but more often, it derives from myth.
. A shared cultural heritage. This heritage, and particularly the cultural artifacts (and sometimes also, institutional structures) that it has created, represents the “patrimony” of the nation, and is often invested with considerable sentimental value, to the extent that attacks on it are responded to with violent emotion.
. Linguistic coherence, in the form of one or more languages identified with the national identity. The more unique or difficult these languages are, the stronger the emotional attachment to them, as something that must be defended. In the world of mass telecommunications and the omnipresence of English as a lingua franca, bitter struggles are taking place all over the world to protect the national languages (most notably, in Iceland and France).
. A sense of identification by members with the nation. The idea of national affiliation is a deep-rooted one in the human psyche, and members of a nation suffer a very visceral response to any threat against it, real or perceived.
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https://archive.globalpolicy.org/nations/nation/2001/0720definition.htm
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Don’t get yourself entangled while distinguishing a nation (a people) from a nation state.
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Grow up.
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soma / February 2, 2022
NV
Whenever you ask me to grow up I feel young and rejuvenated.
Will my ability to see the truth in the face fade when I grow up?
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Soma
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Native Vedda / February 5, 2022
soman
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“Will my ability to see the truth in the face fade when I grow up?”
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Everything is possible even you could raise your Kundalini.
This will take many yuga for you.
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“Whenever you ask me to grow up I feel young and rejuvenated.”
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Once you have learned the art of raising Kundalini, nothing can stop you.
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old codger / February 1, 2022
Soma,
“Some Tamils are as ancient as the Sinhalese”
Would you mind discussing this with Ms. Pùnchi point, who doesn’t think so, and wants all Tamils out?
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leelagemalli / February 1, 2022
PP,
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People of the kind should have everything in PUNCHI (small in size). That may well be the reason to see things that way.
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OC,
There are a whole lot of people that wish TAMILs and MULISMS be out of the country ? what do you think ? They just look at the minorities as if mongooses see the reptiles.
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What happened to that MaDHU Madhawa or the like men that spearheaded racial waves in the aftermath of EASTER SUNDAY BOMBING…. I do believe, the bugger et al should be caught by sudden deaths ?
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soma / February 2, 2022
Old codger
I never get involved in arguments over history and genetics.
I don’t know who f****d whom in bygone days.
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Soma
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Native Vedda / February 5, 2022
soman
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“I don’t know who f****d whom in bygone days.”
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If you are interested you can find anything. If you are keen ask Gota to fund a study of genetics.
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You will be surprised to learn many things you rather don’t want to know. Prabaharan’s father maybe your mother’s first cousin.
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Mahila / February 2, 2022
OC,
1. “Some Tamils are AS ANCIENT AS THE SINHALESE” – Soma
2. “You must know that you cannot infringe on the irrevocable RIGHT OF THE INDIGENOUS SINHALESE ” – Punchi Point
3. “Can a Tamil reader on CT please tell me this gentleman K Rasingham is USING THE WORDS TAMIL NATION, Tamil People to describe…..)”
What oxymoronic statements under 1 and 2 above.
If 1 above is true then 2 is a baseless statement and vice versa!!
In respect of 3 above, I would fault Government and Administration for this misnomer due to their own ignorance.
Every single form that you encounter to fill in for an application (Mind you in 99% of the cases it would be by a Sri Lankan National), there is a question
What do you think the expected answer for this question from the applicant?
Sinhalese, Ceylon Tamil, Indian Tamil, Burgher, Muslim, Malay, Moor!!!!
So by deduction, if the above is the answer to the question of NATIONALITY, and by reason of simple deduction the Ceylon Tamils are from a Tamil Nation, Sinhalese from the Sinhalese Nation, Muslims are from a Muslim Nation, burghers from Burgher nation, Malays from the Malay Nation, Moors
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soma / February 3, 2022
Mahila
You have a problem of logic.
I can make it easy for you this way.
Tamils some of whom have jumped over from Tamil Nadu long time ago in collaboration with vast numbers arrived during the Dutch and the British later are infringing on the irrevocable rights of indigenous Sinhalese.
Comfortable?
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Soma
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Mahila / February 2, 2022
(Part II)
Contd.
from the Moor nation, so on and so forth in this resplendent isle in the Indian Ocean.
The word Nationality is derived from the word Nation – the land to which they belong!!!!!!
Even I thought in 1983, that the government has already given to LTTE demand for a separate state, when a government official insisted that the correct answer to that particular question is as prescribed in the above paragraph!!!!!!
Government makes it, none knows the reason and it goes on and the myth in people’s mind grows exponentially – we are from a Tamil Nation!!!!!!!!!!!
I am sure when Mr Rasingham reads the above he may be impelled to change his use of the word ‘NATION’ and realise the Tom foolery of the Government administration and limited wisdom of those elevated dreamers.
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SJ / February 4, 2022
OC & Soma
I will not call even a centenarian ancient.
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Punchi Point / February 2, 2022
“The collective demands and wishes of the Tamil people to manage their political, social, economic and cultural affairs are completely denied to them…. ”
Rasingam, Tamils can do all the above in Tamilnadu, why establish another Tamil state here? You must know that you cannot infringe on the irrevocable right of the indigenous Sinhalese people to self-determination throughout the island, with your racist wishes for a mono-ethnic Tamil state here. At least demand something proportionate to your population size! Maybe the Sinhalese would have agreed to 10% of the land area just to get rid of the Tamil problem and get some peace, but 40%!! This is basically the main problem of the Tamils – they think that they are entitled to this, that and the other, way out of proportion to their population size and significance in this island – be it language issues, university quotas or government jobs or whatever else.
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Punchi Point / February 2, 2022
If you want to carve out a separate Tamil state here, why don’t you stop writing these articles with idiotic baseless claims and take this issue up in the UN and get it referred to the ICJ? You won’t take this issue in any international court, because you know that no international law allows for secession and establishment of a separate state for a diasporic group like the Tamils here, especially when there already is a Tamil state just 50+ miles across the ocean. Really, you Tamils must seriously stop whining and resorting to terrorism and hate speech against the Sinhalese and take this issue in the UN and the ICJ, and we can see who has a stronger case – whether it is the Tamils or the Sinhalese. As said many times earlier, Tamils will never take this issue up in the UN or ICJ, because the Tamils know that they really do not have a case at all.
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Native Vedda / February 2, 2022
Punchi Point
Punchi Brain
Punchi Willi
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“Rasingam, Tamils can do all the above in Tamilnadu, why establish another Tamil state here?”
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Of course Tamils can.
Why don’t you go back to your ancestral homeland Tamil Nadu and do everything such as “managing your political, social, economic and cultural affairs”.
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Why don’t you stop blabbering and catch the next kallthonie from Arichal Munai and go back to whence you came in.
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old codger / February 2, 2022
PP,
“Maybe the Sinhalese would have agreed to 10% of the land area “
OK, 15% including Colombo, since Sinhalese are a minority there. Deal?
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Mahila / February 2, 2022
PP,
“…by BRUTAL INVASION, MASSACRE AND ETHNIC CLEANSING of the innocent Sinhalese people”
What do you describe, happened 2500 years ago, when 700+ miscreants and outlawed castaways arrived on the Northern coast of SL?
They were welcomed with open hands and settled down, with the leader entering wedded life with Kuveni, the indigenous head of the inhabitants of then SL
When they got 700 princess from the Pandya’s in South India, they banished or Killed Kuveni and her children and lived happily thereafter.
No Invasion, No Massacre and willingly and ably executed!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice story, same process, as the Pandiya invasion, and end result, but you say, forefathers of Sinhalese were humane!!!!!!!!!!
Or, are you confusing the Kalinga Invasion during Pollonnaruwa kingdom?
Any case very interesting Punchi story.
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Punchi Point / February 3, 2022
According to the actual legend you are misusing and misquoting, this island was uninhabited when the banished and unarmed Vijaya and his 700 followers landed here in 543 BC.
The year 543 BC is in the middle of the mahajanapada era when king Bimbisara was ruling in Magadha. No where in the legend is there any mention of “Pandyas in South India” or any Tamils. What the legend says is that Vijaya’s royal bride’s father was “Pandu Raja” of Southern Mathura i.e king Pandu, of south Mathura. It was British colonial scholars who misinterpreted this to be Pandyans of present day Madurai. And then Tamils claimed that the brides came from the Tamil kingdom of Pandyans and that they were Tamils. FYI the Pandyans too are supposed to be originally Pandus of northern India. One legend says that Krishna forced the Pandavas out of Hastinapura and forced them to settle in the south. In some Tamil literary works they are referred to as “The Five”. So even if the brides did come from present day Madurai, they could hardly have been Tamils.
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Punchi Point / February 3, 2022
And if there was a kingdom in Madurai, Tamil or Pandu or any other non-Tamil, this island would also have been more or less in the same state of civilizational development with weapons and soldiers, so it could not have been in a tribal or hunter gatherer state where tribals like the Yakka Kuweni ruled nor could it have been possible for 700 unarmed men to have massacred people in a kingdom in an advanced civilizational stage and taken over the kingdom, which would have been the case if there was an advanced kingdom in Madurai just across the Palk Straits. So Tamils and other foreigners like the British trying to read history into ancient Sinhalese myths and legends will only result in nonsense stories, which do not make any sense at all. These Sinhalese myths and legends are not meant to be historical accounts, but just what they are, namely myths and legends. However, if there is any truth to the Vijaya legend, then he would have had to come here a long time before 543 BC, when the island was in a primitive tribal state or uninhabited, as the legend itself says.
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SJ / February 4, 2022
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Do you really believe that bit about “700 princess from the Pandya’s in South India”?
It must have been a pretty big royal family. how many wives were Pandya kings allowed?
I know that Karunanidhi allowed himself 3, but he was not Pandya.
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soma / February 3, 2022
Mahila
If someone asked the question a solution is sought for Hindu/Christian community in Jaffna
OR all Tamil speaking people scattered across the island
Rasingham has to tell explicitly that he is seeking a solution for the former. Simple as that. Why try to bamboozle everyone by using various permutations and combinations of ‘Tamils’, Tamil People , Tamil Speaking People ,Tamil Nation, Ealam Tamils, Eazam Tamils etc. etc, several in the same breadth leaving us confused all the time like TNA have been doing all these decades.
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If I asked the question Tamil racist donkeys on CT have a short answer:
Soma is a racist.
That is how far these donkeys can go for discussing the ‘national question’.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / February 3, 2022
Rubbish . There is enough archeological evidence to prove that the Tamils have also lived outside the North & East (even in down South) but there is NO evidence whatsoever to prove that the Sinhalese lived in the North & East. The census of Ceylon conducted in 1881 also indicates that the two Tamil provinces were inhabited almost exclusively by Tamils in the late nineteenth century (Census of Ceylon, 1881). The Sinhalese population constituted only 1.8% of the total population of the two Tamil provinces in 1881; Sinhalese accounted for only 0.51% of the total population of the Northern Province, and 4.2% of the Eastern Province.
In the recorded history of Sri Lanka and the epigraphic evidence found till today, nowhere it mentions that there was a mass influx/settlement of Tamils from South India to the North & East of Sri Lanka or there was a mass exodus of Sinhalese from the North and East to the South. In other words, that all the Sinhalese living in the North & East simply pack their bags and went to the South leaving all their lands to the newly arrived Tamils without any protest? Most of the Sinhalese have their ancestral native place name also as a part of their name, known as Vasagama.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / February 3, 2022
Is there any Sinhalese person from any part of Sri Lanka who can come out and say that his Vasagama is a name from any part of North or East? Even those Sinhalese who are now living in the North and East today were colonized after 1948 by DS Senanayake.
The so-called Sinhala history scholars will never fail to say that the East was under the Kandyan Kingdom. It is true that some parts of the Eastern province came under the Kandyan Kingdom from time to time but it makes no difference to the Tamil position in regard to the inhabitancy of the Eastern province. The Tamils would have had and yet have no objection whatsoever to the benevolent and accommodating rule of the Tamil /Sinhalese Kandyan kings whether they were Pandian or Nayakkar, and see no inconsistency in the Tamil claim to the Eastern province even under the Kandyan rule. On the other hand, I have never come across a Sinhala person or family that claimed an Eastern province habitancy or origin. If you speak to the Sinhalese living in the Eastern province, each one of them will say that their grandfather or great grandfather is from the South whereas there are any number of Tamils who hail from the East and proudly proclaim their habitancy.
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Punchi Point / February 4, 2022
Kandy was purely a Sinhalese kingdom. The Kandyan kingdom was established by the Sinhalese in the process of getting away from the Tamil invaders, who had destroyed the ancient Sinhalese Kingdoms of Anuradhapura and Polonnaruwa. Now fanatical Tamils in the 20th /21st century are claiming that the Kandyan kingdom was Tamil! There were no Tamil invasions of the Kandyan kingdom, unlike the other ancient Sinhalese kingdoms in northern Srilanka and there were no Tamil kings in Kandy. All Kandyan kings were Sinhalese, or Sinhalized Telugu Nayakas. Claiming that these Telugus were Tamils is so dumb – just see what the Tamils in Tamilnadu say about them. Tamils in Tamilnadu call them foreigners, invaders and non-Tamils who occupied Tamilnadu. So how come you claim that these same Nayakas were Tamils?
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Punchi Point / February 4, 2022
“….see no inconsistency in the Tamil claim to the Eastern province even under the Kandyan rule”.
You Tamils should have asked for a separate Tamil state from the Kandyan kings and seen their reaction…. LMAO
As far the eastern province is concerned, the Tamil colonization of that area was not substantial, as many of the Tamil and Kerala land grabbers in Magha’s army from the mid 13th century had gone back to Tamilnadu/Kerala. However the Sinhalese also didn’t return to their lands in large numbers, as many had perished at the hands of the brutal Tamil invaders and war struck them continuously with new Tamil invasions, and then in 1505 European colonization came, and with the European colonization more Tamils migrated here displacing the Sinhalese. The first British census shows only about 50,000 Tamils in the entire island. How many of them do you think were in the eastern province?
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / February 3, 2022
When the Europeans (Portuguese, Dutch and British) arrived, what all of them clearly observed and experienced during their period was that there were two different Nations (Sinhalese and Tamils) having two different languages, religions, cultures, and living in two well defined and clearly and naturally demarcated (thick jungles, lakes, river, etc) land areas with their own kingdoms within their traditional lands. The Tamils lived as a majority within their separate land area (North & East) and the Sinhalese also lived as a majority within their land area (South & West). The British, on seeing the naturally existing borders of the two ethnic groups used their technology to demarcate them as two separate regions (occupied by two separate races) and created the maps for the first time somewhere in the 1800s. Unfortunately, the same British later united the two regions into a unitary state and gave it to one ethnic group (Sinhalese) by creating a single majority and making a total mess in the region.
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Punchi Point / February 3, 2022
The following is an example of how ignorant and alien the Tamils are to this island and how hateful the Tamil mind is:
This what the Sinhalese legend/myth says about Vijaya-Kuweni affair:
“Vijaya had one son and one daughter by the yakkhini [Kuweni], when he now heard that the princess had arrived he said to the yakkhini: ‘Go thou now, dear one, leaving the two children behind; men are ever in fear of superhuman beings.’ ” (Mahavamsa p. 60 Geiger’s translation).
This is the Tamil interpretation of it:
“….Killed Kuveni and her children and lived happily thereafter.
….. Massacre and willingly and ably executed.”
Tamils should leave the history, myths and legends of the Sinhalese, Vaeddas and this island alone. You people have no idea of what you are talking about even, since you have only a very superficial relationship to this island. All your history is in Tamilnadu, so you simply do not understand the context in which these myths and legends are said or what roles they play or have played in the past in the island’s society which is obviously alien to you.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / February 3, 2022
For the last 40 years, the Sinhala Buddhist Chauvinists, the Pseudo-historians, and bogus scholars (charlatans) have built up a very strong love and affection towards the Tamil Ph.D. student Karthigesu Indrapala due to his 1965 Ph.D. thesis which was not in favor of the Tamils. When the well renowned and recognized former History professor of the Jaffna University, the same Prof. Karthigesu Indrapala retired from his profession after 30 years of research as a Senior Archeologist/Historian/epigraphist and a University Don, he settled down in Australia. All those who kept on using the Ph.D. student Karthigesu Indrapala’s 1965 Ph.D. thesis as a guide in all their writings must have had a heart attack when they read the book what Prof. K. Indrapala published in 2005, 40 years after his 1965 Ph.D. thesis where he says his Ph.D. dissertation is completely out of date that even he does not have a copy of his 1965 Ph.D. thesis what he wrote 40 years ago as a Ph.D. student. Therefore, it is absolutely natural that people change their opinions upon new findings.
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SJ / February 4, 2022
SSS
Can you cite Indrapala in his own words with accessible reference to source?
You get away with falsehoods for few bother to contest them most of the time.
But you run away when challenged for evidence as in the case of your notorious DNA fibs.
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Native Vedda / February 5, 2022
SJ
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“But you run away when challenged for evidence as in the case of your notorious DNA fibs.”
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My crystal ball tells me SSS follows in your footsteps.
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Native Vedda / February 5, 2022
Siva Sankaran Sharma
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” …… even he does not have a copy of his 1965 Ph.D. thesis what he wrote 40 years ago as a Ph.D. student.”
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He does not need to retain a copy for a copy of his thesis is retained at SOAS (University of London). You too can access it from:
https://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?uin=uk.bl.ethos.282698/.
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I suggest you access it and read it (some 562 pages).
Pass it on to SJ.
I must warn you it is too boring to read this or any PhD stuff.
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ReginaldShamalPerera / February 3, 2022
I thought this Eelam person is done and dusted (no pun intended). Where is he now?
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soma / February 4, 2022
Angoda.
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Soma
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Native Vedda / February 5, 2022
soman
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Angoda – Soma
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Have you changed your name?
Bless you.
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