Urges that Govt, Pillay discuss the setting up of a OHRHC with a monitoring function with a mandate for the post-war period and as an alternative to an international inquiry into alleged war crimes
Sri Lanka’s ex-UN Ambassador to Geneva, Dr. Dayan Jayatilleka yesterday called for the setting up of an Office of the High Commissioner of Human Rights (OHCHR) in the island, saying such a move would be in the public interest because of the state of human rights in the country in peacetime, a newspaper in Colombo said.
Dr. Dayan
Dr Dayan Jayatilleka, former Ambassador and Permanent Delegate of Sri Lanka to the UN in Geneva (2007-2009) and a former Vice President of the UN Human Rights Council (2007-2008), advised that visiting UN Human Rights Chief Navi Pillay and the Sri Lankan Government should explore the possibility of a setting up an office with a monitoring function, the Sunday Leader’s Easwaran Rutnam reports.
He said that the OHCHR should function on the strict proviso that it is an alternative to an international inquiry mechanism in to the war that will be strictly limited to the post-war period, the report said.
“While ambassador/permanent representative to the UN in Geneva I was in the forefront of the opposition to such an office being established in wartime because I felt it could be used to leverage a ceasefire and forestall our definitive liberation from the Tigers.
I still think I was right at the time, but given the human rights situation in peacetime, the impunity and immunity flaunted by state terrorism against unarmed citizens, I think that such a presence of the UN Human Rights High Commissioner’s Office would be in the public interest,” the newspaper quoted Dr. Jayatilleka as saying.
The newspaper said that Dr Jayatilleka, who has had direct dealings with Pillay during his term in Geneva, said she can be seen as independent and highly autonomous. “She is by no means a front for the West or the global North. She has criticized the USA, Israel, Libya, Syria and Iraq. The worst I can say about her contains a sincere compliment within the criticism; she is a human rights fundamentalist. The world needs such people,” the report quoted the former Ambassador as saying.
Dr Jayatilleka however told the newspaper that it would be a ‘joke’ if anyone in the Government thinks they can be tough with her when she comes. “Navi Pillay is impossible to intimidate. If the Government tries to be ‘tough’, the world’s media will relay it, and we shall lose even more votes than we have lost already in the UN Human Rights Council.
Navi Pillay is a respected world figure, known as a moral and ethical voice and a keeper of conscience. I have crossed swords with her successfully on important occasions, but have great respect for her,” the newspaper quoted Jayatillaka as saying.
Dude / August 25, 2013
Is Dayan now fishing for a UN post! Now that Rajapassa has not caved in and given Dayan, Sajin Vas G (the brother of the killer DIG) post in the Foreign ministry!
Did Dayan, aka “MR KNOW IT ALL” – not see the writing on the wall then, when he was defending the Rajapassa war criminals in Geneva – that the Rajapassa military dictatorship and violence would not stop once the LTTE was defeated .. but was really about entrenching the Rajapassa military dictatorship and its TERROR APPARATUS – the DEEP STATE whose latest innovation is the Ministry of Law and order!
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Dan Seneviratne / August 26, 2013
He is not MR KNOW ALL he has clearly pointed out the common view of the average folks that keep worrying about the human rights situation in the post war episodes in the Island.
This should be commendable actually, if you are honest to you.
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Omar / August 26, 2013
I agree, this should be commendable.
Actually its a brilliant suggestion to have Permanant office. Our human rights violations deteriorated since 1970.
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Ben Hurling / August 26, 2013
Dudes,
A relentless attack on DJ will not save Sri Lanka from Rajapassa Clan.
DJ was enlisted to defend SL at the International frontline. All agree he did an extra-ordinary job as a diplomat. Worthy of emulation.
Usually such battles are almost always won by the cunning LTTE Die-Ass-Pora.
DJ did his national duty. That does not mean he has to be a slave of the despicable Rajapassa doctrine for the rest of his life.
Cheers!
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Omar / August 26, 2013
Absolutely. DJ did his duty at that time as a Srilankan.
Thats what any diplomat would have done for his country.
Just because what he did at the time doesnt mean his is a Rajapaksa crony.
What right is right.
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sea / August 26, 2013
WRONG.
Dayan Jayatilleka was appointed to an ambassadorial post by Mahinda Rajapaksa, knowing the diplomatic challenges his government was about to face if a full military offensive were to be carried out. Jayatilleka has never been a career diplomat, and your comment would have been spot on if he were one.
In the case of Geneva 2009, Jayatilleka served the interests of the Rajapaksa regime. As a means of countenancing that, or perhaps as a way of showing his position in the middle ground as a pluralist and an advocate of a devolution-based political settlement, he wrote in support of fully implementing the 13th amendment, and the very person who appointed him (due to pressure from Bogollagama for sure) sacked him. While in Singapore at NUS, he further wrote from a middle ground perspective, and then with his friend GL Peiris’s backing got in the ministry again. So being sacked doesn’t really affect him, as he has horned his reputation as ex-ambassador, and bagged quite a bit of savings, for sure.
Jayatilleka’s roles with governments have been marked by a defining feature: opportunism. This is what got him close to Premadasa (80,000 rupees per month at the time, house and vehicle,& foreign travel of course, all to write to the papers under a pseudonym), and to Rajapaksa. Chandrika kept him at bay, and didn’t offer him an ambassadorial post, because Dayan had written (under his pseudonym of the time) an article accusing Chandrika of Vijaya Kumaratunga’s death, during his writing spree under the Premadasa rule. The man is over 55, and must now be desperate for another ambassador post or a D2 job with the UN, which pays much more (and the pension, if one stays on for 5 years, is simply tremendous). The retirement age at the UN is 62 to my knowledge, but I have heard rumours of Mr Moon trying to increase it…
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Omar / August 27, 2013
@Sea-
You have made some valuable points.
No debate on that. What I have agreed with Ben Hurling, here
was that attacking DJ for former positions he held is
irrelevant right now as the country is in dire straight
and also there is anarchy although a different picture
has painted to hoodwink the people. Its so sad that only a handful of people from the entire polulation understand
the correct sutiation the country is facing. Everything
is falling apart. Therefore we need the professionals
and interlectuals to address these issues and oppose
anything and everything that are harmful.
So I said its commendable what DJ suggests here.
I strongly believe that only person who could bring
Sri Lanka’s Economy, the Image and the lost Glory is
non other than Mr. Wickramasinghe but he has no Support
or Cheekiness.
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Saro / August 28, 2013
DJ or for that matter many ministers in MR’s cabinet are opportunists and fortune hunters. For them the country comes second. They will lie and twist their naves to stay in power. What DJ did at UN or France would have been done by any diplomat of any country including WW II Germany. Example: Everyone knows that the present Tamil cabinet minister and his party are responsible for many criminal activities in the north, yet, DJ suggested to MR regime that he be kept in power.
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Malan Jayawardhana / August 27, 2013
This should be from none other than particular “Gamini” ?
Anyway, it is not clear who would behave well.. I think TK should be more trustful than DJ. TK stays further more or less silent. So does Dr. SB (former CJ). DJ ^s back and forth moves are not clear yet. His set of vacccabulary is not comprehesible to many either. But holding an UN office or even better to deploy UN forces in SL will definitely be of need of the hour in the course of next few months. This week alone, he the idiotic leader MR has shown, that his contacts are only dictatorships or like minded ones.
Belarus and Sudan – two new allies of MR regime… :(
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Amarasiri / August 26, 2013
Dayan,
Permanent office will help.
But what will help most is permanent UN Force, like in Korea, to save the people from internal aggressors.
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Thileepan / August 25, 2013
Blasphemous sir!
(Dr. Jayatilleka in 2009- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0znNBZZOBs)
To the dear Dr,
Could you please cut down the number of times you refer to yourself in every interview/ article please? It is a wee bit nauseating.
Thank you.
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Thileepan / August 25, 2013
Blasphemous sir!
(Dr. Jayatilleka in 2009- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0znNBZZOBs)
To the dear Dr,
Could you please cut down the number of times you refer to yourself in every interview/ article please? It is a wee bit nauseating.
Thank you.
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Yehiya / August 25, 2013
Yes. We are in crucial stage. Country need to unite or divide. When the Mrs. Pilli is here in our door step, President went to overseas for useless tour. President always try to entertain the gallery or fear to face & sort out problems. Its shows President no diplomatic ways to approach the problems. Its better to appoint Mr. palihakkara as adviser to him & follow the steps to overcome the pressure. Otherwise physical victory of war is in vain.
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Native Vedda / August 25, 2013
Beware a born again human rights campaigner selling UN human right charter, at the street corner near you.
Human Rights activists advised the public not to approach him as he is armed and dangerous of course with human right charter. He will sell anything to you depending on which side he is with.
He sold, war as peace, Marxism as marijuana, war mongering as career development, watered down 13th amendment as panacea,………
This is his new avatar.
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j.muthu / August 26, 2013
Spot on Native,
I am in deep mission right now…canvassing for TNA all over my beloved land. I just returned from vanni and mullaiteevu. Proud to say tamils of ealam will show their solidarity with TNA, hope IC will know our message clear and loud…Just wait.
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Native Vedda / August 26, 2013
j.muthu
Have you been to your dear leader’s bunker an important tourist attraction visitors must see?
By the way what was the purpose of this bunker if he had been planning to surrender to the Sri Lankan armed forces?
TNA has given up its demand for an International Independent Inquiry?
Did you impress upon TNA leadership of the importance of such an Inquiry?
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Anpu / August 26, 2013
M(urderer) Rajapakse is also a human right campaigner. Once up on a time he went to Geneva…
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Silva / August 26, 2013
“..Beware a born again human rights campaigner selling UN human right charter, at the street corner near you.
Human Rights activists advised the public not to approach him as he is armed and dangerous of course with human right charter. He will sell anything to you depending on which side he is with.
He sold, war as peace, Marxism as marijuana, war mongering as career development, watered down 13th amendment as panacea,………
This is his new avatar..”
Dayan Jayathilake summarily and concisely explained courtesy Native Vedda. Great explanation!
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Jim softy / August 25, 2013
Dayan Jayathilake is showing his real colours and his true self.
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Kumar R / August 26, 2013
What true colours?
Dayan is the mother-of-all chameleon – there is no “true/truth” in any colours he opts to display – those colours are just as bogus as his true self!
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Tsunami Hora / August 26, 2013
Yeah right, Thats because Dayan is an educated man and coming from a good family backroud, so his true qualities come out eventhough he was made big blunders in supporting MaRa.
Uncultired and uneducated cannot understand or tolarate the elite, educated, pleasant people.
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Kumar R. / August 28, 2013
Tsunami Hora,
I am glad that you and I see eye-to-eye at least on one count. I couldn’t agree with you more on your very wise conclusion “he (Dayan) has made big blunders in supporting MaRa –.“
Few questions then.
First, who among Dayan and MR would you consider “smarter” – MR who succeeded in getting DJ to blunder big in MR’s favour or DJ who blundered big, even if only unknowingly?
Second, even the smartest among us are human after all, and so mistakes and even blunders, big blunders too, happen. However, if one realizes his mistake, especially when it rises to the level of “big-blunder”, should he not owe an apology, particularly if graced by even a trace of truthful intelligence, culture/heritage, education, integration, what-have-you?
Please look at DJ’s response below and tell me if there is even a trace of remorse for his big-blunder in that whole asinine response.
Or perhaps, despite his pretentions, he is not even as smart as you to still not recognize even his own glaringly obvious and undefendable big-blunders of the past?
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Anpu / August 25, 2013
We want independent international inquiry. We have given enough time to put things in order to Sri Lanka family Party & Uncle and Nephew party.
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punchisingho / August 25, 2013
This proposal reveals who real Dayan is.It is nothing but an attempt to please the human rights violators during the war time and be a human right champion in the post war era.
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Silva / August 26, 2013
punchisingho,
Well said!
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jayantha / August 25, 2013
Well said Dr.Dayan. We truly appreciate your initiative to advise and suggest UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navanethem Pillay to set up an OHRHC office in Sri Lanka with direct UN monitoring. This is a need of the hour.
Rajapakse Dictators are truly taking Sri Lanka on a distructive path of pre-planned isolation of Sri Lanka from the International community to achieve their murderous goals, while shutting down the free media to plan for another Racial/ religious massacre similar to 1983.
Please read the following web to see how Rajapakses planned yesterday’s abduction of Sunday Leader journalist Mandana Ismail Abeywickrema.
[Edited pout] Please don’t post gossip web links – CT
It’s a well planned and well organized attack on her, but through God’s help the plan backfired and she and her family was rescued.
This is just one incident of State Terrorism in Sri Lanka and many more will be followed in future.
There are many Sri lankans who approve and support Dr.Dayan’s initiative to request UN to open a UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHRHC) office both in Colombo and in North.
All our support for you in this regard in whichever way you want.
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Native Vedda / August 26, 2013
jayantha
It is a question of the man not his present position as such. He in the past had taken 64 positions sometimes all at the same time.
I have been questioning his intellectual honesty through out his war years and since.
Please go back and reread his articles where you will see clear pattern as to how he continues to shift his positions without any shame or remorse.
A few years ago I mentioned rats jumping ships. Now you know the names of those rats. Certainly many more will jump, lets wait and see who those rats are. It is going to be interesting time.
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Jayantha / August 26, 2013
Native Vedda,
I know exactly what you are talking about. At least Dr.Dayan had his academic qualifications to hold those positions at UN and as Ambassador to France. But see the new set of the Sri Lankan UN reps and many other Ambassadors who hold VIP posts. Many of them cannot give a speech in English or even talk on a given topic.
The Hambanthota uneducated uncivilised Villege “Gas Gemba”… frog not only recruited his unqualified and uneducated rats to these VIP posts but also they bring disgrace to Sri Lanka and it’s reputation.
I once met a set of Sri Lankan Villege women representing Sri Lanka who could not even speak two words in English, came with the Sri Lanka delegation to a major International conerence. May be they are Rajapakse cronies came only to do shopping and have a side show fun wasting taxpayer money.
What do you think Rajapakse doing with his “Nade” in Belarus, where a pound of Bread costs 170 Rupees and unemployment at 30%.
Just ask him what type of Business deals he signed. The bottom line is the Joker just wanted to spend some time somewhere with his Nade drinking Vodka while signing fake deals, where he cannot go to many other western countries.
Sri Lanka did very well in economy throughout the last 65 years without VPs doing so many trips around the world taking their “Nades” all over the world.
The only other reason for his trips could be to sign more
Arms deals with commissions and also to reserve a Political Asylum hide out when get kicked out from Sri Lanka. Nothing else.This is how the Gas Gemba wastes our money.This Bast….d is an Economic Assasin. He will bankrupt Sri Lanka very soon.
Regarding Dr.Dayan, it is the Mad man Rajapakse who cannot associate or get on with the intelligent community. that’s why he got rid of them.The crook wants other crooks to acssociate and rob the country. He don’t want honest people. Birds of feather flock together.
See who are his companions. They are Kangettas, Julampitiya Amare,Tsunami Jackpot, LTTE VP,Karuna,KP, Daya Master, Atha Kota, Kudu Duminda, Mervin, Rapists, murderers and thugs. These are the ones who he is comfortable with and whome he was brought up with.
But the Alibaba always make sure to visit Buddhist Temples and make it a big show to dupe public. That’s how his show game works out……Sadu….sadu…ssssaaaaaadduuuuuuu.
Therefore Dr.Dayan coming to rescue Sri Lanka from the absolute thug Alibaba is the need of the hour. Very soon the crook will feed you with Grass after robbing the Central Bank.
UN OHRHC office is the need of the hour. People will get more power and freedom to voice their rights and Rajapakse corruptions.
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Kumar R / August 26, 2013
Jayantha,
What do you expect when the majority elects uncouth, uneducated, uncivilized politicians to provide leadership? These politicians are doing exactly what they are capable of doing. Nothing more – nothing less. So, the responsibility, at least partly, lies with those who elected them.
On the other hand, Dayan was not elected. He is educated and has had so much exposure and opportunities to meet, discuss and communicate with very eminent leaders and intellects. He considers himself an intellect. However, despite all these education and opportunities, he frankly “prostituted” his capabilities in covering up the sins of the regime. And he did all that just for the crumbs that was thrown his way, unmindful of the tragedy that was resulting from his “intellectual” cover-ups. That is pathetic and despicable.
So, who is worse? — the uneducated idiots running amuck in total ignorance of civil ways, or the intellect who, knowingly and deceptively props up such idiots for the crumbs that might come his way?
At present, Dayan is just spiteful, because his free-ride has come to an end.
So, is it the spite or is it genuine recognition and remorse for his stupid past that is prompting him to so aggressively criticize the regime now? Did enlightenment come only once he was disrobed from Ambassadorship? What a coincidence?
If his present remorse and criticisms of the regime are genuine, then does he not owe an apology for his misguided ways of the past that actually were responsible for setting the wheels in motion for the country’s downfall?
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Jayantha / August 26, 2013
Kumar R,
The bottom line Rajapakse was not elected by the citizens of Sri Lanka, but he robbed the vote. It was Gen.Sarath Fonseka who won the election but MR stole it, and he knows about it.
All these suppressions against the citizens are due to this guilt and fear feeling that he carries with him.
Regarding Dr.Dayan…….yes he took the side of Sri Lanka and white washed Rajapakses during the UNHRC Geneva annual review on Sri Lanka. Obviously you have to defend the country and the administration when you represent it during an international forum.It is your duty.
But soon after winning the UNHRC vote Dr.Dayan insisted that President Rajapakse to fulfill his obligations to the UNHRC by at least fulfilling LLRC Recommendations. But MR not only simply ignored it, but also used his condom theory on Dr.Dayan and his team by removing them from the following year’s Sri Lanka’s UNHRC team.
Read the following webs….
http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2013/03/24/sri-lanka-post-unhrc-vote
http://groundviews.org/2013/06/06/sri-lankas-global-vulnerability-the-devolution-conundrum
There are many other articles Dr.Dayan wrote which are in Internet Archives.
It was not Dr.Dayan but MR using his known condom theory that led all these problems our country face today and also it’s future.
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Silva / August 26, 2013
jayantha,
“..There are many Sri lankans who approve and support Dr.Dayan’s initiative to request UN to open a UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHRHC) office both in Colombo and in North..”
And there we may Sri Lankans who approved and supported Dr. Dayan’s initiative to request UN to let alone and turn a blind eye on a regime that committed war crimes and colossal human rights violations especially during the closing stages of the war in 2009! Dayan is a merchandizer of war and peace depending on whichever you want! That “A Permanent Office Of The High Commissioner For HR In Sri Lanka” is a desperate cry not of Dayan but of all peace-loving, law-abiding and Rajapaksha jackbooted people of all over Sri Lanka of all nationalities and religions.
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Silva / August 26, 2013
Oh sorry, some typos: “And there were many Sri Lankans ..”, ” merchandiser”
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Leon / August 26, 2013
Why should the setting up an OHRHC be an alternative to an inquiry into human rights violationsz?
Why can’t we have both?
Setting up an OHRHC has absolutely nothing to do with the need for an independent international inquiry into war crimes, Crimes against humanity and even genocide. They are not mutually exclusive.
Perhaps Dayan can explain to us why one should be an alternative to the other.
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Native Vedda / August 26, 2013
Leon
“Perhaps Dayan can explain to us why one should be an alternative to the other.”
Because right now he believes so.
One should expect him to change his mind soon.
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KR / August 26, 2013
NOTE he wants ;
‘Sri Lanka’s ex-UN Ambassador to Geneva, Dr. Dayan Jayatilleka yesterday called for the setting up of an Office of the High Commissioner of Human Rights (OHCHR) in the island, saying such a move would be in the public interest because of the state of human rights in the country in PEACETIME a newspaper in Colombo said.
Peacetime, so he can be excused for all he said to defend the killing and maiming of unarmed civilians during the war.
He wants to compliment Navi Pillay on The worst I can say about her contains a sincere compliment within the criticism; she is a human rights fundamentalist. The world needs such people,” the report quoted the former Ambassador as saying……… when he and his troop trashed anyone who spoke up for human rights at that time.
Perhaps, he hopes to be appointed to the job!
How pathetic he is!
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Native Vedda / August 26, 2013
KR
“How pathetic he is!”
You are being polite to him!!
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j.muthu / August 26, 2013
Do you really believe Sinhala Buddhist leadership accept your madness…you idiot how rajapaksee cowards running around all dictators…Uganada to Belarus what a joke. u fool nothing shit still counting other peoples sufferings…
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Native Vedda / August 26, 2013
j.muthu
A armchair revolutionary turned statist, since the state has been salvaged from failed state status to stable one he thinks its time for him to cleanse the state.
By welcoming Navi Pillai he hopes he could prevent further deterioration of human rights in this island at the same time the past can be put to rest, without the need for revolution.
From today on wards you should not remind the past but focus on future human rights violations. Why? Dayan says so.
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Piranha / August 26, 2013
It is funny that Dayan says there is state terrorism against unarmed people after three people died in Weliweriya. He defended state terrorism against the Tamil people when tens of thousands of people died in the state’s so called “humanitarian” operation in the war against the LTTE.
Dayan was proud and was gloating all over the place after he won the vote in the UNHRC in 2009. He was foolish enough not to realise that the Rajapaksa brothers were and are a corrupt, murderous thugs who will not hesitate to commit even murder to stay in power. Rajapaksa, the saviour of the Sinhala people, has become the curse of the Sinhala people now. Dayan played a big part in Rajapaksa’s ascent to become an all powerful dictator when he defended the stste’s conduct of the war and protected Rajapaksa from world scrutiny.
Now you are crying but it may be too late Dayan. Hope you don’t become a white van victim because in spite of your past conduct your country and your countrymen need people like you to save them from the Rajapaksas.
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Senguttuvan / August 26, 2013
Note DJ proposing a OUNHR now as Mrs. Pillay is about to set foot on our soil. A UN presence was the suggestion of the Tamil political leadership here – echoed by diaspora sources – sometime ago, which was hoarsely attacked by the Govt – while DJ was on the regime’s side. DJ must be now regretting his strident attack on the accomplished lady whom he now describes as “tough and impossible to intimidate…We shall use more Votes in the UN” is now the born-again wisdom. While, under normal circumstances, I would have supported such a position it is my fond hope the Rajapakse Family, even at this late stage, will have the good senses to come out,in consultations with the TNA and the Tamil leadership, to create a situation of ensuring peace and normalcy in Tamil areas – where it may, at some later stage, become necessary even for UN troops to be stationed. That will take our conflict into a new and more dangerous dimension.
Senguttuvan
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Senguttuvan / August 26, 2013
Correction – “to avoid the situation” where it may, at some later stage, become necessary even for UN troops to be stationed.
Apologies
Senguttuvan
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Native Vedda / August 26, 2013
Senguttuvan
“where it may, at some later stage, become necessary even for UN troops to be stationed.”
Do you mean UN troops include Sri Lankan contingent?
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M.SIVANANTHAN / August 26, 2013
Will UNHRC open any office in Saudi Arabia and in Israel?
Can Pillai go to S/Arabia and tell “women must be allowed to drive a car?”
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Tsunami Hora / August 26, 2013
Do you want Ms Pillay to go and teach women KSA to drive.
Ms Pillay’s plate is full with Rajapakasa atrocities.
Saudi men know how to drive and ride so their women are happy with that. You worry about your own woman, someone said the other day even one is too much for you. I too believe that Lester, Jimsofty, Furzana.
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Jay / August 26, 2013
To respond giving a question to a question will bring us nowhere :(
Just because Saudi behead poor guest workers, should we do the same ?
Is your brain at least the size of a mustard seed, you should have the sympathy of the grievances of your community rather than adding this kind comments
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justice / August 26, 2013
Dayan has at long last identified state terrorism.
That is a great step forward to implement human rights.
I hope he will tell Pillay about this.
Pillay may not agree, as she ia ‘human rights fundamentalist’.
She will want proof, but those who can provide it may not be allowed to meet her.
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Jay / August 26, 2013
DJ is not reborn child to lanken political analysis. If he was wholehearted, he could have addressed these issues long time ago. Ostensibly, he is nur turn dissident to the regime, he himself keeps on boasting about his efforts that saved the country in the debate sessions in 2009. Not only DJ, but anyone who could play a greater role on international stage should rally round to go against the brutal Rajapakshe regime – putting save the nation above Rajapaske regime. The man in power is on a merry go round, – most evidently not being able to face UNHRC human right chief on her tour to lanka from 25th -31st Aug.
What is the worth of his trip to Belarus – former socialist state – many would not even know nothing about the nation. Why MR did not want country^s FM alone to take part the so called lucrative business forum in Belarus ?
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Native Vedda / August 26, 2013
Jay
“he himself keeps on boasting about his efforts that saved the country in the debate sessions in 2009.”
It was India backed by USA that saved Sri Lanka from gallows.
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justice / August 26, 2013
“………………………..State terrorism against unarmed citizens”
This is now implemented down south too.
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R.J.de Silva / August 26, 2013
Dayan seems to have taken for granted the Rajapakses have finally washed their hands off the most notorious double-crosser in our
recent political history. The Family is not going to enjoy this
suggestion of a UN Office here – and that too on the day the nemesis
arrives. The Family – and notably the vengeful power-hungry brother – have their own way of showing their displeasure to those who cross their path.
The mahadenamutha has been far too inconsistent in his public life.
The lesson at Kanatte in July 83 has been forgotten. Is it time for the next lesson? Eventually will be left with two friends – whose chameleon-like record too is one of duplicity and opportunism – Oxford and diplomacy in Geneve notwithstanding.
RJdeS
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / August 26, 2013
What we need is a change in government and a new constitution that is designed by eminent persons of good repute who comprehend the depths to which we have descended and have a long term vision for this country. We have been governed by mice for long and have been overrun by them. We need ethical, educated and wise persons to be at the helm of our affairs, if we are to assert the sublime in our human heritage as a nation.
There are no short cuts. The UNHRC nor Navaneetham Pillai cannot do what we ourselves have to do – get rid of the mice in our body politic , who are devouring at an accelerating pace the very foundations and values of our nation.
Dr.Rajasingham Narendran
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Dev / August 26, 2013
well well if it isn’t our “lauder” who only a few months ago was singing hosanna’s to our majesty now talking about a new constitution !
I agree with your suggestion though but believe me if you were thinking of Dayan as an “eminent” person (I am sure he thinks of himself as such) then you are dead wrong !!!
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / August 26, 2013
Dev,
My definition of those who should frame a new constitution extends beyond the word eminent I used. I have not named anyone.
Further, I like to emphasise that my political views are not static and are always evolving. When Mahatma Gandhi was questioned why he changes his opinion regularly he replied, ‘ I know more today than I did yesterday’. Circumstances and events change. Perceptions have to change to accommodate this. Do not forget after the tyranny and stupidity of the LTTE, the post-war scenario was a relief and a period of much hope, pregnant with potential for the Tamils and this country. Unfortunately, Mahinda Rajapakse chose not to take the wise path on some significant issues relating to the minorities and many critical matters relating to the country as a whole. I was right to hope and am also right to feel disappointed or some what disgusted now.
Dr.Rajasingham Narendran
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Dev / August 26, 2013
well you are entitled to change your opinion of MR and glad to note that.
I am more surprised/perplexed that you did not see the monster that he and his brother are when you first came down from abroad ? But better late than never !
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / August 26, 2013
Dev,
I had the occasion to see the results of VP’ s and LTTE’s stupidity and dastardliness first hand on the occasion you mention. Any other alternative and potential was of course far better in comparison. To the extent that the war-affected Tamils are back on their feet, though yet not running as they should be, validates my judgement at that time.
I wanted the Tamils and every other Sri Lankan running around bringing vitality, hope and progress to the country. MR and his government have stymied this with bad governance. I find fault with MR and his government on this score.
Dr.RN
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manisekaran / August 27, 2013
I hope you have fully recovered and doing fine,welcome back.
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Native Vedda / August 26, 2013
Dr.Rajasingham Narendran
I am glad you are back with vigour after your brief illness.
My demands are simple:
A Truth and Reconciliation Commission to investigate war crimes covering the period from 1971, a proviso to exile all war crime deniers to Bihar, Dhar desert, Siberia, Antarctica, Moruroa atoll or Bikini atoll.
Restoring democratic rights of all people
Reconstituting constitution, ensuring identity, dignity, accountability, transparency,……etc. New draft constitution should be put to referendum. The name of the country should be reviewed, renamed, rebranded.
Bottom up development, not top down.
Protection of Environment and land
Hope in the fullness of time you may change your perception and agree with me.
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Senguttuvan / August 27, 2013
It is somewhat distressing to learn from Native Veddah our friend and regular commentator Dr. R. Narendran was unwell. Pleased to hear he is well and back in his usual stride of useful interventions. Like many, I too was wondering why we missed his
well-informed and spirited comments that enriched these pages.
Senguttuvan
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Dev / August 26, 2013
This man makes me sick, honestly honestly, has thou no honest bone in your body?????
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Tsunami Hora / August 26, 2013
Comme Dev Furzana fcukshima, dont lie.
We all know in this forum that you are SICK, not because of Dayan though.
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Safa / August 26, 2013
UN monitoring the situation would certainly hasten the reconcilliation process and return to normalcy. Sri Lanka forces are involved in peace keeping operations in other countries, so we have accepted the concept of UN intervention. So why not a OHRHC monitoring office here?
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Jim softy / August 26, 2013
Dayan Jayathilake became an Indian Agent when he became the North – East Provincial councillor. SO, he is still talking to protect Indian Interests in Sri Lanka.
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Tsunami Hora / August 26, 2013
Jimmy is paranoid since yesterday.
In case he is missing from this forum please
guys dont panic, but check if there is a
‘Dev Mylliyawaikkal’ in Mulleriyawa Mental wards.
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Dev / August 26, 2013
This man makes me sick ! Honestly honestly sick !!!!!
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Jim softy / August 26, 2013
He is not the only one. there are a few more. Sri Lankan govt gave top diplomatic positions to this kind of dirty Hyenas.
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hannah rajaratnam / August 26, 2013
Muthu- take it easy.
The country has been in a great big S–t hole for many years.Whom do we have to compliment for this scenario none other than succesive governments and their henchmem who supported them to carry on regardless.Having had enough of their nonsense the young tigers took to war.Nothing but freedom – the massacre took place similar to the Insurgency in the South.Who was in Matale with Gota at this time Jagath Jayasooriya/Dias.The mass graves in Matale have woken up to haunt these guys.So will the souls of the massacred in Tamils.These are favorites in the defense minsitry who came in big time,used for killing and wiping out human lives.
The souls are now at our door.Vengeance ?.But remember – Belarus needs our help or the president needs a pat on his back for his performance of being a great democratic leader.
what a joke.
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sach / August 30, 2013
It is disgusting to note the level of hypocrasy displayed by many Tamil commentators here. There is no doubt the governments we had previously are responsible to the state of affairs of this country.
1. SL has a lot of problems, that is for sure. But it is no where close to the level depicted by media,especially in CT. And most of the problems we have can be solved if correct actions are taken.
2. Let me tell you, I am not a fan of MR. i didnt even vote for him. Actually it was the Tamils who brought this man to power. So dont blame the sinhala public for bringing MR to power. It was you who brought MR. Remember 2005?
3. Did MR has any alternative other than war? He had NO other alternative because war was the ONLY solution for LTTE menace. Many ppl have said peace process would be good and bringing terrorists into a democratic platform (which I too believed at one point). But that was totally wrong. LTTE never came to peacetalks to solve the matter it was just a time gaining and regrouping excercise for him. At the point of 2005 and 2006 MR had nothing to do but wage war. It was clear by that time LTTE must be eradicated in order for SL to have a future. So as a president MR did his job. All the HR pundits who talk about war and casualty on internet should understand SL was fighting an EXISTENTIAL WAR!
4. Has things gone bad or worse? the main reasons that contributed to a conflict was the language rights of the tamils. 1956 language policy, University standardisation policy, ethnic riots were ALL wrong. Most of policies of SL gov since independance has been suicidal including land laws, economic policies. but the policies that directed the ethnic distrust has been corrected. Tamil is an official language now, we dont have a university standardisation based on ethnicity like in 70. This doesn’t mean every thing is corrected but still we have to do more. However the principal reasons that contributed to ethnic strife are no more.
5. The way Tamils wash their hands from the happenings in SL is ultimate hypocrasy. whatever it is LTTE was the ones who took to violence.
they killed sinhala civilians in border villages, and Tamil poeple including Tamil journalists, politicians APPROVED them saying they are people settled by Sinhala government.
when LTTE killed Tamil police members and SL army Tamil informants TAMILS APPROVED.
when LTTE killed tamils of different orgs, many TAMILS APPROVED.
when LTTE killed Sinhala politicians, TAMILS APPROVED.
when LTTE killed Tamil politicians who criticised LTTE, TAMILS and TAMIL politicians like Amirthalingam APPROVED
when LTTE killed Tamil politicians like Amirthalingam who agreed to Indian suggestions, TAMILS APPROVED.
when LTTE went back the 1987 agreement and attacked IPKF, TAMILS APPROVED.
when LTTE targetted sinhala civilians who are not in N-E or border villages, they still APPROVED.
when LTTE targetted Muslims in border villages, mosques, did ethnic cleansing in North, TAMILS APPROVED.
when LTTE recruited children of 8-10 years TAMILS APPROVED.
when LTTE did fund raising to buy weapons, to wage war TAMILS did gave money, TAMILS sponsored LTTE, TAMILS worshipped a murderer. And thereby TAMILS APPROVED every action of LTTE.
AND when SL gov destroyed the very monster that was a menace to every citizen in this country. And finally LTTE has gone you guys CANNOT pretend to be good guys white as a lily flower.
So for all the blood bath, and the deterioration of political system in this country TAMILS are too responsible.
6. Now ho has the Tamils who were under LTTE rule lived?
— Food items were sent from the gov
–Medicine were sent from the gov knowing very well LTTE too would be using them
–gov paid the wages of the doctors, nurses of the hospitals in this area.
— gov maintained schools in LTTE area.
–gov paid for teachers, principals, books, uniforms for the children in LTTE area.
— Gov had GCE O/L and A/L examinations in the LTTE area at the expense of gov.
–Public service was maintained in the LTTE area by the Gov at their expense.
That means all the healthcare, school system was maintained by the SL gov though these area was under a LTTE rule.
7. Now what did LTTE do?
–Recruiting children forcibly from families.
–Using gov funded schools as their own propaganda and brainwashing departments.
–Using gov funded hospitals to treat their sick and wounded.
— Using gov sent food items for their own well being and to the extent of using rice bags to build bunkers
— Using the civilians as a human shield to save themselves.
— Placing their artillery among civilians to safeguard themselves and to use a human shield and any resulting loss of death to be used to creat a humanitarian crisis so that SL army would be forced to stop their offensive.
And what do you call such a regime? At least SL gov FED you.
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Hela / August 26, 2013
DJ,
Found a new paymaster…?? or looking for one….??
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gasp / August 26, 2013
if we recall,no one knew about hr abuses in north until we saw documentary evidence a year or two ago,we did not know this regime will kill us in the south either,we know this now.
therefore dayan j standing up and requesting a un hr permanent office in Colombo is good,will be noted and the sooner this happens this regime will come down a notch or two,we will feel safe only after this regime is gone…for good.
and please! a man can change his opinion,thats his entitlement,his human right.
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Leon / August 26, 2013
This guy’s hypocrisy is amazing. He defends the worst human rights violations in the last stages of the war and now calls for a permanent HR presence in SL. First follow what you must have been taught in your school, growing up as a Catholic and Repent of your evil, then bear the fruits that show you have repented. Until then, this is cheap talk and playing to the gallery.
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Silva / August 26, 2013
UN also need to set up A Permanent Office Of The High Commissioner For HR In Sri Lanka to monitor the activities of double-tongued loonies like Dayan who insult the intelligence of the people by their nonsensical policies: 4-5 years ago you sell war and Rajapakshas to the entire world but now, OMG!, you are a pigeon of hope!
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manisekaran / August 26, 2013
An educated crook.
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Dr Dayan Jayatilleka / August 26, 2013
Hey guys, let me make this simple, clear and easy.
1. If I were on a time machine back in 2009, I would do exactly the same thing as I did then.
2. If at any time in the future, the Madras Cafe-banning pro-Tiger freaks are a threat to my country once again, I would do the same thing I did in 2009 and the years leading up to it (including my opposition to the CBK packages of ’95-’97, the CFA and the PTOMS).
3. I have always observed a difference between the intentional killing of terrorists and the unintentional killing of ( militarily trained makkal padai) civilians on the one hand and the intentional killing of unarmed civilians on the other. It doesn’t matter what ethnicity the civilians are.
4. I supported not only the war against the Tigers especially after a reform alternative was available in 1987, but also the war against the JVP in its neo-barbaric stage in the late 1980s. Thus, as I said, Tamil and Sinhala do not come into it. It is my opposition the killing of Tamil civilians in the North and east that made me a founder of the Movement for Interracial Justice and Equality (MIRJE). That and the opposition to the killing of unarmed university kids in the South in 1984 led me on the path that had me indicted under the PTA and the emergency by JRJ and Lalith.
5. My position on human rights is identical with that of the LLRC which said there was no violation of international humanitarian law; no policy of killing Tamil civilians on the part of the armed forces; no ridiculous numbers of 40,000- killed; but there are are 10-12 instances of possible crimes which require an independent high powered national commissioner. I have now gone on to say that without such a national commissioner, it may be necessary to have an office of the High Commissioner, while I remain firmly against an international inquiry into the last stages of the war.
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Piranha / August 26, 2013
” I remain firmly against an international inquiry into the last stages of the war.”
Why?
Scared that your assumption that “no intentional killing of tamil civilians” might be proved wrong and your former paymasters might end up as war criminals?
Like what is happening in Syria at present a “war without witnesses” took place in the Vanni. I hope Ms Pillai vigorously pursues her intention to ensure an international war crimes investigation takes place on Sri Lanka.
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Jay / August 26, 2013
DJ@
how can one expect a high powered independence commissioner for whatever crime investigations, in a land where Chief Justice (MP) is reported to be a man puppeted by president himself ?
I wish we could knew what these 10-12 instances of possible crimes, you mentioned in your last comment.
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Jay / August 26, 2013
Following link helps the readers that DJ^s current suggestion was initially had come from Ms Pillay in 2010 – holding an office of OHRHC in SL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiPOP2jrPvQ
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Native Vedda / August 26, 2013
Dr Dayan Jayatilleka
I am glad that you are taking few of the positions out of the 64 all at the same time.
One see a pattern of behaviour on your part, where there is a war there is Dayan to oppress the unarmed civilian.
While you were a minister in EPRLF North East Council did you count the death toll?
In the war against JVP do you know how many innocent youth and their relatives suffered under your more mongering?
Do you have any idea how many innocent civilians lost their lives as a direct result of your war mongering.
If you justify all these death, I suppose you should be the first one to face ICC.
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aratai / August 27, 2013
Don’t waste your time replying…..DJ is only trying to get another post in foreign affairs…once he get it, he’ll shut up.
:-)
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Jayantha / August 26, 2013
Dr. Dayan Jayatilleka,
In any democratic Nation in the world, they follow a path of so called accountability, reconciliation and settlement. That’s why we have courts in the world.
That’s why even tody USA is paying Millions of Dollars of compensation to the victims of who were killed by mistakenly through air raids, by ground forces or when using Drones.
USA never refused to admit when there were collateral damage and I know one day that both Bush, Cheney and Tony Blair will be brought to Hague to face Iraq war crimes charges. As of now many soldiers who were found guilty of war atrocities were punished and huge compensations are been paid to victims and their families.
But in the case of Sri Lanka’s LTTE war, Rajapakse administration is not only refuse to discuss what occured during the last phase of the war, but also refuse to admit that there were either collateral damage occured, or a massacre took place. Also they refuse to reconcile with the Tamil community and pay them some compensation for their lost loved ones.
There are ample Video footages available in the Internet to prove this and the eye witnesses are there to prove that some kind of massacre took place, and the International community is looking only at a honest reconciliation and to implement LLRC which Rajapakses are adament to execute.
If Rajapakses think that they could be the only Gods in Sri Lanka, while abusing their 18th Amendment rights, they are mistaken. Both JR and LTTE VP thought like that but failed miserably.
What Rajapakses have to do is to Keep their False Pride aside and come down to earth and act humanely, because you never know when and how your own down fall will occur.
We don’t need an International inquiry on war crime as long as President Rajapakse follows LLRC recommendations.
There are credible reports and figures available to prove that around 140,000 civilians perished during the final months of the LTTE war. These are through NE local Government office statistics.
Infact of implementing LLRC, now the Rajapakse Rooster is coming to South to lay eggs among their own Sinhala comunity……the next Sri Lanka’s Kim Jong-Un.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100231814/north-korea-is-running-out-of-virgins-for-kim-jong-uns-dance-troupe-its-every-dictators-nightmare
A drop of one Indian Air Parippu….Dhal drop costed JR’s Presidency,and now Rajapakses are doing the same dance.
Only those who have ears may hear……and the ones who have eyes may see.
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Jim softy / August 26, 2013
Jayantha’s BS.
How much they have paid in Afghanistan or in IRaq or in vietnam ?
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Jayantha / August 27, 2013
Jim Softy,
Here’s some info you are looking for.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/03/25/u-s-paid-50000-for-each-afghan-killed-in-shooting-rampage
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/US_Pays_Millions_To_Civilian_Victims_Of_Collateral_Damage.html
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/04/02/iraq-a02.html
http://www.thewagnerreview.org/2013/02/compensate-the-drone-victims
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/25/afghanistan-shooting-victims-us-paid-compensation_n_1377950.html
http://www.juancole.com/2013/04/innocent-victims-currier.html
https://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/08/10
http://www.wcl.american.edu/hrbrief/15/1tracy.pdf
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-03-25/afghanistan-shooting-compensation/53765298/1
https://www.law.upenn.edu/journals/jil/jilp/articles/1-1_Schmidt_Benjamin.pdf
Please go to internet archives on USA war victims and you will see pages upon pages of how much compensation USA paid.
Good luck.
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Patriot / August 29, 2013
Tell us you Yankee ass licker, how much they paid to tens of thousand of civilians victims of their countless naphthalene attacks in Vietnamese. The US waged their terror on Vietnam to stop communism. What a justification.
And how much they paid to victims in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. None. That was the only nuclear attack by any country to date. The US did that to take revenge. Pathetic.
Twenty-nine years ago, in Chile, on the September 11, 1973, General Pinochet overthrew the democratically elected government of Salvador Allende in a CIA-backed coup. ‘Chile shouldn’t be allowed to go Marxist just because its people are irresponsible’, said Henry Kissinger. After the coup President Allende was found dead inside the presidential palace. That’s U democracy.
This jayantha, the US ass licker says; “USA never refused to admit ….” My foot. Leave out compensation, Secretary of state Madeline Allbright publicly justified nuclear attack on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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sach / August 30, 2013
so all these problem is no compensation :D?
honey there is NO such democratic country in the world. Every where the might is right including your temple of democracy in US!
US is guilty of war crimes in
1. Japan
2. Vietnam
3. Cambodia
4. Iraq ( via sanctions)
5. Iraq (war)
6. Afganistan
7. Now Syria………
US never punished the culprits, just a slap on the wrist!
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sach / August 30, 2013
including the drone attacks in pakistan that killed many civilians
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Punchisingho / August 26, 2013
Dayan!
You say 40000 civilians have not been killed during the last stage of the war.
How did you know it?
Then how many have been killed?
I am asking them with an open mind as I really do not how many lost their lives.
The government says no civilian was killed.
To the best of my knowledge civilians get killed in every war.
I wonder why the TNA has not so far made a serious attempt to find out how many civilians got killed during the so called humanitarian operation.
Can anybody enlighten me and the other readers of CT?
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aratai / August 27, 2013
0 civilian causalities.
40,000 was Tigers+Makkal Padai.
:-)
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Jayantha / August 27, 2013
Punchisingho,
You have to search Internet by going to various websites to get an idea of how many civilians died during the final days of Eelam war.
Here’s some web sites you could read.
http://mbstories.quora.com/Sri-Lanka-and-Tamil-Eelam-What-Happened-during-2008-2009
http://srilankanquest.wordpress.com/tag/eelam-war
http://srilankanquest.wordpress.com/tag/eelam-war
According to some reliable information I gathered including Mannar Bishop Rayappu Joseph, North/ East Govt provincial council census reports etc, there are 140,000 civilians been unaccounted for during the 2008 to 2009 two year period.
http://www.theweekendleader.com/Causes/1117/Bishop-in-danger.html
Please do more research. Good luck.
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Leon / August 27, 2013
Look into your heart Dayan, then you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
Did you defend a “zero civilian casualty” story in Geneva because you honestly believed it to be true? Did you believe that a war can be waged with no collateral damage? Did you believe that a war with no media, no witnesses would be clean and clinical with no HR violations?
It’s time you grew up. Yes, you seem to be growing up and if you can acknowledge your mistakes of judgement of the past you will be the most credible intellectual in SL, until then your motives are suspect as you can see by what people write about you. A honest man does make mistakes but it is his ability to acknowledge them that makes him a true man.
You will recall that you were taught that Judas betrayed an innocent man and when he knew what he had done he hanged himself. You betrayed the innocent civilians in a war that had to be waged and won but done so with accountability.
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Kumar R. / August 28, 2013
Hey Dayan,
As you pretentiously offer to clarify, simply and any-other-“fy” (while actually leveraging the opportunity to self-glofi”fy”), please read from the following in the blogs above from two who actually write in your support.
Tsunami Hora – August 26, 2013 12:00 pm:
“… eventhough he (Dayan) made big blunders in supporting MaRa.”
Jayantha – August 26, 2013 1:18 pm
“Regarding Dr.Dayan…….yes he took the side of Sri Lanka and white washed Rajapakses “
“MR not only simply ignored it (Dayan’s view), but also used his condom theory on Dr.Dayan”
“It was not Dr.Dayan but MR using his known condom theory that led all these problems our country face today and also it’s future.”
Very complementary – eh?
So wake up to reality – if you are sincerely guided by any one of intelligence, integrity, heritage or education worthy of even a modicum of your claims to those hats, you do at the least owe an apology to the whole country for your “blunder”, ‘wrongful white-washing” and “volunteer-condomnization” (not my words!) that has brought the whole country to its knees.
Else, your sudden re-born pretensions hold no water.
Can you explain why an apology may not be in order?
As for your response/comments above, as I have asked you multiple times if “accountability is a moral imperative,” how is that you get to decide who should investigate it? Frankly, you were specifically asked multiple times in 2009/2010 “without considering who or who should not conduct accountability hearing, first could you say if in your opinion accountability hearing is necessary”? Your assertive response was “the majority of Singhalese do not care a damn!” – When did that metamorphose into a “moral imperative?”
It is laughable that anytime you find yourself tongue (and brain) tied, you either crawl back into a crevice, or begin berating the dead-horse LTTE, Diaspora, even domestic-Diaspora, and now the new-found “Madras-café burners” as you have done above. What a lame or rather sorry-ass defense!
Your aptitude for diversion knows know end. The LTTE, Diaspora or what-have-you have no relevance to your sudden wakening to ““how must that state have treated the Tamils in the closing stages of the war,… how must they have conducted themselves in the North and East for thirty years and how must they be functioning in the former conflict zones today?”
Incidentally, I will post a response to Jayantha within a day or so, that may be of interest to you as well – if you are willing.
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