By Ganeshan Iyer –
Preamble by Michael Roberts –This is chapter 14 in the serialized memoirs in Tamil by Ganeshan Iyer found in http://inioru.com/?p=12399 (whose work has now appeared in book form). The strict translation of this chapter would be “Fighters opposing Prabakaran – My records on the Eelam warfare,” but I have chosen to highlight the central motifs in this segment.
I also have Gobinath Ponnadurai;’s translation of this chapter; while Dayan Jayatilleka has provided a somewhat different translation of key sentences in this document relating to Hitler and Mein Kampf. All the versions are broadly in agreement re the threads of content.
Prabakaran who held in esteem the discipline and firmness of Hitler’s army, wanted the Thamil Eelam Tigers’ army to be its representative. I too did not reject it.
Ganeshan Iyer became the Treasurer of the LTTE when it was initially formed in May 1976. Iyer is from the Brahmin caste, a numerically minute body of people in the Jaffna Peninsula who serve as temple priests and are dependent on the Vellālar caste. Nourished in the Vellālar village of Punallaikatuvan, Iyer came to know Pirapāharan when the latter hid there under the auspices of Chinniah Rajeshkumar, alias Rāgavan, in the early-mid 1970s. An atheist and reformer with Leftist leanings, Iyer joined the LTTE’s hard-core guerrilla ranks in the 1970s. When the LTTE divided into two factions Iyer joined the faction led by Uma Maheshwaran that opposed Pirapāharan. This faction later evolved into the militant organisation known as PLOTE. Subsequently Iyer became critical of PLOTE and associated with a dissident faction named Theepory which hived off from PLOTE. Finally he became associated with the NLFT, a faction identical to Naxalites. Thereafter he sought refuge in Europe and seems to have ended up in Germany. There is unconfirmed grapevine information that he officiates as a temple priest.
Arun Ambalavanar is the person who first brought Iyer’s writings to my attention and provided the reference to his serialized memoirs in Tamil within Inioru.com (now made into a book). Ambalavanar makes this point emphatically: “though his Marxist thinking is very much evident in his memoirs on the LTTE days, the recollections provide genuine reportage and information on the history of the LTTE.”
Preamble by Michael Roberts. See bibliography attached at end.
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Ganeshan Iyer: “Fighters opposing Prabakaran – My records on the Eelam warfare,” Chapter 14 Translation by Parames Blacker
The dream of the Thamil Eelam Tigers was to establish a powerful army. We believed that the basis of this could be started with the making of a disciplined training camp. Prabakaran comes forward with the full plan for this. As planned the training camp was set up in Mankulam. We trained towards this at every opportunity, with small army activities like pistol shooting practices.
The army training began in the planned and established training camp in early 1970. A training camp was built with bunkers and sand bags similar to the fully guarded Army camps. For the first time uniforms were made for the army training and all those who received training were given uniforms. Even the mode of army training is prepared by Prabakaran. The first plans of his long time dream of the army became a reality.
The Government army is built separated from the people. Its inner purpose is to completely destroy the compassionate and humanitarian feelings of the army and make it in to a government tool. The amusing part of this is, that even without being aware of it, we ourselves who say we are fighting for the freedom of our people, were attempting to build an army with no feelings for the people at Mankulam.
Above all, Prabakaran, governed by the discipline and victories of Hitler’s army, is trying to enforce the German army’s practices in to the training of the Thamil Eelam Tigers. He says it is because it was disciplined and firm [that] Hitler’s army has made victories its own.
The order was given that as the first part of the army training all being trained should salute as is done in Hitler’s army. Prabakaran who held in esteem the discipline and firmness of Hitler’s army, wanted the Thamil Eelam Tigers’ army to be its representative. I too did not reject it.
It is at this time the first waves of opposition against Prabakaran began to appear. Some members argued that Hitler’s salute was not necessary. Prabakaran argued against them. He says if a disciplined army is to be formed, the rules and regulations for it are necessary
It is at this time the first waves of opposition against Prabakaran began to appear. Some members argued that Hitler’s salute was not necessary. Prabakaran argued against them. He says if a disciplined army is to be formed, the rules and regulations for it are necessary. He argues Hitler’s way is the beginning of it. Notably, Kumanan later killed by the Freedom Tigers opposed this. It was when he too participated in the planning discussions of the training camp this debate arose. In the end, as put forward by Prabakaran, Hitler’s ways were accepted and put in practice.
Other than the two captured mechanized guns, we have bought some mechanized and motorized weapons fromIndia. Along with the camp army parade, organized physical exercises like that in an army training camp, we also put forward shooting practices with guns.
When the people’s army is in the process of growth, the correct environment for a permanent army and for training will come is the idea of Mao’s army. We are forming a steady army before anything else. Towards that all arrangements were made as that of a Government army.
Because the central committee members, Mukundan (ummamaheswaran), Nagarajah, Baby Subramaniam had gone toIndia, only Prabakaran and I remain to make all decisions regarding the training camp. At this time the whole ofJaffnais being covered by the army. Two young men Inpam and Selvan are shot and killed by the army. These murders shocked the whole community in every aspect.
Members in the forefront like Kittu, Sellakkilli, Shanthan, John, Sithappa, Kumarappa and Maathiah are called to the training camp. Prabakaran trains them, and it was decided to give him the same respect as given in Hitler’s army.
At this time another problem arose within the movement. Without any prior notice, Prabakaran brings Ravi and Veeravahu, from Valvettiturai, with no training in the ranks to the camp. To these two who were brought to the training camp, training was given together with the earlier more important members. Prabakaran did not consult anyone regarding this including me. Many opposed this. It was the practice for all the others to be trained first in the ranks for a long time, have their commitments checked before entering them in to the level of the movement’s training. The act of Prabakaran suddenly bringing in two people while there were many other members in the ranks, waiting a long time for army training gave rise to the idea that it was authoritarian. Prabakaran did not have any definite reason for this action. When questions were raised by many, Prabakaran had no answer.
The Police were looking for these two who had stolen chemicals for bomb making from Hartley College where they were students. Because of this they had to live in hiding. Many objections were placed before Prabakaran for rejecting Kumanan, Mathi,Raviand other members and bringing in these two in to the movement.
A few days later, the parents of Veeravahu, came to know that while yet a student, he had joined the movement and was in hiding. On learning of this, his family making contact with Tigers like Kumarappa, Maathiah, asked they be allowed to take Veeravahu home. Since Veeravahu also wants to go home, Prabakaran lets him go home. On reaching home, he surrendered to the police. This incident made the distrust in Prabakaran increase more. After this many began to voice opposition to the selfish way of Prabakaran. Little by little the army attitude and the authoritarian ways of Prabakaran began to infiltrate the movement. The section of fighters within us who had progressed did not fail to calm the opposing results from this, from time to time. With all the opposing factions the training camp continued for a while and then was closed down saying the training was done.
During this period, Chanthathiar who was involved in the work of the Gandhian refugee camp, expressing a desire to join the Thamil Eelam Freedom Tigers, contacted Prabakaran. They met together many times. Prabakaran wanted to give him important responsibility with the Tigers.
Urmilla, the first woman who worked for us with Umamaheswaran was being hunted by the police. She who lived in Colombo began to move towards the North in secret. The fear arose that being a woman she could be easily identified and captured.
Under the leadership of Krishnan living in London, there were a few working in support of us. Anton Balasingam had contact with them. News reached us that Anton Balasingam was keen to meet us in India and Prabakaran wanted to go to India for this. As the training camp was already closed, he thought this was a good opportunity to take Urmilla with him to India, and so made plans to go to India. Prabakaran also made contact with Chanthathiar and asked him to bring the earlier worker Umamaheswaran to meet him.
With Chanthathiar agreeing, the four – Prabakaran, Urmilla, Chanthathiar and Kalapathy left for India in our speed boat. Ravi and Bala also followed them to India.
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Bodinayaka / February 2, 2012
Is it true they say that floating Pirabahran picture was taken few hours early in Nandikadal lagoon he got shot in head ? I’m just curious.
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Nihal P / February 2, 2012
The Germans had an excellent army well before Hitler. In fact, Hitler was more of an impediment, than an asset,as far as military planning went, because he seriously underestimated his enemies, and also because World War II was unlike any war fought before, including World War I; the latter, in particular, often clouded Hitler’s judgement. One need only consider his failure to capitalize upon Dunkirk, or his refusal to evacuate the Sixth Army. The discipline and efficiency shown by the Wehrmacht had little to do with Hitler; such things are ingrained into German culture, not least of all the well-established Prussian military tradition of Hitler’s day. It is this military tradition that produced outstanding generals like Rommel.
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David Blacker / February 2, 2012
Yes Prof Heshan, we know that WW2 was different to all preceding wars. Did you just figure that out? What Hitler did bring to the sandbox, however, were the concepts of ideological indoctrination of the military and the political soldier. The latter, in the form of the Waffen-SS, was both the spearhead of the German offensives and the rearguard in its retreat. It was this ideological indoctrination that created a type of soldier who fought on when all military sense told one to give up. It was this that VP admired, and which he tried to incorporate into his Black Tigers; some might say successfully. Really, Heshan, do you even bother to read the articles you comment on, or are you just so happy to find a site that tolerates your absurdities?
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Nihal P / February 2, 2012
I didn’t know the Waffen SS wore vials of cyanide around their necks. : D Furthermore, I never ran across a German suicide bomber. Anyway, the Waffen, and all other German soliders fought for the Reich, not for Hitler. The extent of indoctrination is debatable, especially when one compares the Waffen to the typical Japanese soldier; the latter didn’t surrender any circumstances.
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Nihal P / February 2, 2012
*under any circumstances
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David Blacker / February 10, 2012
So the only similarity you will accept in defence of your beloved Nazis is if they had worn cyanide capsules? :D I’m sorry; I forgot that any sort of conceptual writing goes well above your little head. And for your information, the Waffen-SS and all German soldiers took the Hitler Oath in allegiance to the Fuhrer and not the state. We’ve had this discussion before on Groundviews where you were defending Hitler and the Nazis as usual. I linked you to the Hitler Oath, and I suggest you go back and refresh yourself on it.
Your comment on the Japanese in comparison to the Nazis is equally ignorant. We are not talking about cultural norms. For millennia, warriors refused to surrender because it was seen as dishonourable; a notion that faded with the 20th century, but lingered on in Japan ; and this has nothing to do with ideology. my point was that Hitler was able to ideologically indoctrinate soldiers to perform differently from their comrades. Prabakharan did the same with the Tigers who followed him like a god.
Hope the smaller words were more digestible, Prof Heshan.
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Bodinayaka / February 2, 2012
Our Paster in Church told us that Hitlor was a Buddhist. That’s why he did so many killings. He didint eat meet like Prbakarn too.
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Mango / February 2, 2012
Nihal/Heshan showcasing his idiocy and ignorance, yet again. Both the Wehrmacht and the Waffen SS swore a personal oath of allegiance to Hitler. That was whole point to Adolf taking over the machinery of the state and making the armed forces give their personal loyalty to himself first.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_oath
Blacker’s been far too generous in awarding you the rank of Untersturmfuhrer. You’d be lucky to have made a latrine digger.
See how much of an idiot you are by taking this test:
http://www.testedich.de/quiz19/quiz/1145198957/Bist-du-ein-Volltrottel
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Nihal P / February 3, 2012
Here comes another Sinhala-Buddhist genius…
Whatever they taught you at the government school is completely wrong. Just because someone swore an oath to Hitler doesn’t mean they couldn’t see beyond Hitler’s ass. Otherwise, why did Rommel disobey Hitler? Why did Paulus surrender? Why did Speer lie to Hitler for months about armanents production? Why did Choltitz refuse to burn Paris? Why did Wenck refuse to attack Berlin? Why did Heisenberg (according to some historians) purposely sabotage the atom bomb program? Why were there two assassination attempts on Hitler, one of which Rommel (the best German general) gave his approval to? Do you even know anything about Hitler’s inner circle? Most of them were not die hard National Socialists, but wanted to curry favor with Hitler just to keep their post.
Given your total lack of understanding of WW2, might I recommend that you stick to discussions about poop on your third rate blog, that receives 3 visitors a year.
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Nihal P / February 3, 2012
*armaments production
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Mango / February 3, 2012
Nihal/Heshan,
Only someone who gets his history from the back of a cereal packet could display the truly idiotic level of ignorance that you do. Rommel as the best German general? Read up on Von Manstein. The simple fact (as testified to by many ex-Wehrmacht members) is that despite those individual instances of rebellion and surrender, the overwhelming majority of the German armed forces and officers (the Waffen SS in particular including its many non-German divisions) fought to the bitter end, when they knew the war was lost because of their personal oath of loyalty to Adolf, who like Louis XIV insisted that ‘L’etat, c’est moi’.
Albert Speer is a perfect example of a senior Nazi who felt unable to abandon Hitler, (because of the personal oath) despite knowing by ’43 that Germany would lose. Under Speer’s organisational genius German war production actually increased until late ’44. It’s all in his memoirs. For your benefit (as a monolingual idiot) its available in English. Most of AH’s surviving inner circle (like VP’s inner circle) faced victor’s justice and Nuremburg and Nandikadal, respectively.
Yup, back to digging latrines until you’re promoted to Klo Kommando. How did you score on the Idiot’s Test?
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Nihal P / February 3, 2012
Rommel was best general, you retarded two-celled Sinhala-Buddhist clown. Why else would Hitler give a state funeral to someone who condoned his assassination? The Germans fought to the bitter end because there was no organized resistance to Hitler, minus the two failed assassination attempts. As far as allegiance goes, Goering and some others were more interested in who should lead the Reich in case Hitler died.
Albert Speer was not Nationalist Socialist at all. Just because he was efficient doesn’t mean he was loyal to Hitler; what kind of stupid fvucked up Sinhala-Buddhist crap is that? Anyone who reads Speer’s whole book will know the man was happy that Hitler gave him a chance to design buildings; the infatuation ended there. Speer was also eager to see Hitler killed.
Like I said, go back to sucking Patshit’s co-k on your worthless blog; your knowledge of history is hopeless.
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Nihal P / February 3, 2012
*Rommel was the best general
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Mango / February 3, 2012
Heshan,
“Rommel was best general” So you’ve finally declared your man-love for Erwin Rommel. Good for you. Was it his long leather coat you fancied or those snazzy dust goggles? Is your bedroom decorated with pics of Rommel? ha ha ha ha!
In your world, “Albert Speer was not Nationalist Socialist at all”, Sure, Heshan, sure .. here on Earth, Speer joined the Nazi Party in 1st March 1931 and became member no. 474,481. Ha ha ha ha ! World-class ignorance from Heshan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Speer
So, according to you the German forces fought to the bitter end “because there was no organized resistance to Hitler”. Explain how precisely that worked. All major histories of WW2 will have to be re-written in light of that astounding information. I underestimated your ignorance and stupidity. You’ve learnt your history from the empty toilet rolls and not cereal packets.
You must be a hard-core Sinhala Buddhist. Only a deeply religious JHU/JVP type Sinhala Buddhist could be so self-contradicatory, stupid and ignorant.
Here’s some basic German you can practice whilst digging those latrines:
“Klo Kommando beriet zur inspection, Herr Generalfeldmarschall”
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padraigcolman / February 6, 2012
Where are the moderators? Why are you allowing Nihal to get away with this? What is your policy on personal abuse and obscenity?
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Nihal P / February 3, 2012
Thanks for displaying the “Mahavamsa Mentality” for all to see. Let’s begin with the following quote:
“Albert Speer was not Nationalist Socialist at all.”
Now, the reader with 5 brain cells will understand that the above quote means Speer was not a die-hard Nazi, which is why he expressed remorse and received 20 years at the Nuremberg Trials, in comparison to most of the other defendants, who were executed.
On the other hand, a Sinhala-Buddhist government school prefect will read the above quote and think, “oh he was a member of the Party, so he must have been a die-hard loyalist!”
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This is the last time I respond to your pea-brained Sinhala-Buddhist bollocks; as such stupidity is a total waste of my time: there is a difference between getting a job/carrying out one’s duty (as was the case with Speer) and being a die-hard supporter of some totalitarian ideology.
“I would like to sit down and write one final blast about the whole damn Nazi mess and mention names and details and let the German people see once and for all what rotten corruption, hypocrisy, and madness the whole system was based on!-I would spare no one, including myself.” (2/46)
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Mango / February 3, 2012
Heshan/Nihal,
Ah.. the goal-post shifting has finally begun. Speer “was not Nationalist Socialist at all” means (according to you) that Speer wasn’t a “die hard Nazi”. Only a confirmed Klo Kommando would deny that Speer (regardless of his later admission of guilt) was until the very end of the Reich, a committed and infatuated follower of Hitler.
Gitta Sereny’s exhaustive study on Speer’s guilt is damning enough.
“… If anything, Ms. Sereny probes Speer’s culpability with more rigor than it received at the Nuremberg trials. In extensive interviews with him three years before he died in 1981, she was able to coax out admissions that probably would have led to his execution rather than imprisonment had they been made before the court. “Of course I was perfectly aware that he had sought world domination,” the set designer of the Third Reich told her about the Nazi dictator. “That was the whole point of my buildings….All I wanted was for this great man to dominate the globe.” Speer had not always been so candid. It took weeks of persistent questioning by Ms. Sereny before he wearily conceded to her that, yes, he had “sensed…that dreadful things were happening with the Jews.” She replied, “If you sensed, then you knew. You cannot sense or suspect into a void. You knew.”
You’d better get back to your latrine digging duties and fantasising about Rommel.
http://www.michaelzwise.com/articleDisplay.php?article_id=13
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Nihal P / February 4, 2012
As I said, it’s pointless arguing with a Sinhala-Buddhist moron who quotes from Wikipedia and Jewish websites. Speer wanted to kill Hitler (in his own words). Speaking of latrines, sucking Arab co-k is the other 2500 year accomplishment of the SB; good of you to mention it.
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Mango / February 4, 2012
So Nihal/Heshan now disputes a direct quotation of Speer’s own words admitting his knowledge of the Holocaust and of Hitler’s plans from Sereny’s book because it appears on a ‘jewish’ website? What’s a ‘jewish website’? Are quotations inadmissible if they appear on a ‘jewish’ web site or Wikipedia?
Are you also an anti-semite in addition to being a virulent homophobe (and thus almost certainly a repressed homosexual) and a misogynist ?
Speer may have wanted to kill Hitler, but he didn’t. Then we move to Nihal/Heshan’s other favourite obsession, which appears to be sucking schwanz. What’s that got to do with Nazis and VP?
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David Blacker / February 10, 2012
“Jewish websites”
Untersturmfuhrer Heshan/Nihal finally reveals his feelings on the Jews (who he claims dropped nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki), and why he worships Hitler.
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Mango / February 4, 2012
“Nihal/Heshan: His Battle with the Truth”
“Albert Speer was not Nationalist Socialist at all. Just because he was efficient doesn’t mean he was loyal to Hitler”
Ha ha ha … unbelievable, truly magnificent. :) :)
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Nihal P / February 4, 2012
Wow, You think you can judge a [erson’s entire career and personal philosophy by taking one quote and misinterpreting it?
“Of course I was perfectly aware that [Hitler] sought world domination … [A]t that time I asked for nothing better. That was the whole point of my buildings. They would have looked grotesque if Hitler had sat still in Germany. All I wanted was for this great man to dominate the globe.”
If Hitler had conquered all of Europe, Speer would have had the chance to design all sorts of new buildings. Now what does that have to do with being National Socialist, you imbecilic moron? Hitler had a lot of architectural vision; that’s why he got along with Speer; it had nothing to do with NS.
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Mango / February 4, 2012
Nihal/Heshan,
Ach Du lieber Gott!
That you continue to deny Speer was a National Socialist in the face of overwhelming evidence is the best proof of your utter idiocy. :) :)
It’s even better than when you claimed that Humans evolved from Chimpanzees.
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inioru / February 5, 2012
Comparing Pirapaharan with Hitler, and rejecting the oppressed people’s struggle against Sri Lankan neo-facist regime is disgusting!!!!
The writer who supports facist ideology should be exposed to the society in the name of the oppressed Sri Lankans.
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inioru / February 5, 2012
oops, The writer who supports facist ideology = Dayan Jayatilleka
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padraigcolman / February 6, 2012
I have re-read your comments policy.
“We welcome debate and dissent, but personal attacks (on authors, other users or any individual), persistent trolling and mindless abuse will not be tolerated. The key to maintaining the website as an inviting space is to focus on intelligent discussion of topics.”
Nihal P does not seem to be abiding by the requirement for “intelligent discussion of topics”.
Here are some choice examples from this thread alone:
“Rommel was best general, you retarded two-celled Sinhala-Buddhist clown”.
“Like I said, go back to sucking Patshit’s co-k on your worthless blog; your knowledge of history is hopeless.”
“Speaking of latrines, sucking Arab co-k is the other 2500 year accomplishment of the SB; good of you to mention it.”
“This is the last time I respond to your pea-brained Sinhala-Buddhist bollocks; as such stupidity is a total waste of my time”.
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Mango / February 6, 2012
I don’t worry about these silly insults. It only shows Nihal/Heshan for the cranky weirdo that he is :)
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Mango / February 13, 2012
@David: “Untersturmfuhrer Heshan/Nihal finally reveals his feelings on the Jews (who he claims dropped nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki), and why he worships Hitler.”
What’s your theory on this odd display of anti-semitism by an Asian? Generally, most (non-Muslim) Asians don’t display anti-semitic prejudices because they haven’t been exposed to a culture of Christian or Islamic anti-semitism.
Do you think it’s more likely to affect those Asians who have embraced Christianity than those who have remained with their original (non-Abrahamic) faiths?
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David Blacker / February 14, 2012
Anti-semitism isn’t at all unusual in Asians, especially the Roman Catholics. It is this RC background that is behind Europe’s historical anti-semitism (the Jews killed Jesus, etc) which Hitler piggy-backed on. If you take that along with Heshan/Nihal’s championing of Christian fundamentalism, western colonisation of Asia and Africa, his racial prejudice (he often calls you “black”), homophobia, sexual repression (you remember how he freaked out on Groundviews at the “M” word when I accused him of intellectual masturbation) and his admiration of dictator’s such as Hitler and Lee Kuan Yew, you will get a picture of the confused rootless Asian; hating his own colour, wishing to be something he can never be, admiring those that might have changed his fate.
It’s sad and pathetic, but there you have it.
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Mango / February 14, 2012
@ David: Thanks. This chimes in more or less with what I also suspected. Yes, the ‘black’ thing was quite bizarre! I wonder if this poisonous osmosis works in reverse? i.e. when Westerners convert to Buddhism and live in SL (surely there must be a few somewhere?), do they after a while take on various racisms prevalent in Sinhala culture? Perhaps Prof Roberts could be persuaded to use Heshan for his next academic study on migrants, converts and mental illness.. :)
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Nihal P / February 17, 2012
Haha, I’m not 100% Asian. Second of all, it’s fascinating when ex-war criminals (Blacker has described some of his war crimes on his “Black Light Arrow blog”) accuse others of racism. Let’s not forget that Blacker’s father was a Christian priest; for whatever reason, Blacker rebelled and sold his soul to the Sinhala-Buddhist Army. After taking a shot in the rear, Blacker was forced to retire and now spends his time writing fiction for GOSL. Blacker is probably frustrated that the German Army of 1914 is x100 superior to the Sinhala-Buddhist morons that he threw the best years of his life away for.
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padraigcolman / February 17, 2012
“Haha, I’m not 100% Asian”.
So the gene pool has been contaminated?
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David Blacker / February 17, 2012
“Haha, I’m not 100% Asian.”
But you’re 99% aren’t you? Which still makes your racism against Asians so pathetic. What a wanna-be :D
“it’s fascinating when ex-war criminals (Blacker has described some of his war crimes on his “Black Light Arrow blog”) accuse others of racism.”
Touched as I am that you read my blog, I urge you to quote me describing a war crime I have committed. Predictably, you will now fall silent on this topic for a few weeks :D Also, are you suggesting that racism is OK as long as it is not a war crime? Would you also be OK with war crimes (such as torture) if they are not racist?
“for whatever reason, Blacker rebelled and sold his soul to the Sinhala-Buddhist Army.”
Oh, the SL Army doesn’t require souls; just soles. So no rebellion is necessary. Just doing my Christian duty in putting those Tigers in the ground where they belong ;)
“Blacker is probably frustrated that the German Army of 1914 is x100 superior to the Sinhala-Buddhist morons that he threw the best years of his life away for.”
Except that your Sinhalese-Buddhist moron brothers won the war, while the Germans you wanna-be lost both world wars ;) As for throwing my best years away, I quite enjoyed it, and wouldn’t exchange it for anything.
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Nihal P / February 17, 2012
Has your Sinhala-Buddhist companion produced any mutts (in the literal sense) yet?
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padraigcolman / February 17, 2012
What??!!!!!
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Mango / February 17, 2012
Nihal’s jealous of other people’s women and sex lives. He had a thing for Prof Jayatilleka’s wife. Her reaction to Heshan’s unrequited passion is not recorded. :)
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Nihal P / February 17, 2012
“But you’re 99% aren’t you?”
Unlike you, my objective here is not to display personal information. Therefore, I will let your grade-school imagination speculate as it wishes.
“I urge you to quote me describing a war crime I have committed.”
How about the episode where you laughed as your comrade shot the foreign medic? Shooting unarmed medics is a war crime.
“Sinhalese-Buddhist moron brothers won the war”
Western technology won that war, not the Sinhala-Buddhist clowns who require Chinese help to build roads.
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Mango / February 17, 2012
Heshan,
Aren’t you getting embarrassed by your ignorance?
“Western technology won that war..” The SLDF uses is almost exclusively obsolete Soviet bloc kit (AKs, Mi-24s, T55s, MiGs) with a few bits of Western kit thrown in.
If technology alone is a war-winning factor, I wonder why the NVA defeated the the US, then (and now) most technologically advanced armed forces in the world.
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David Blacker / February 19, 2012
Heshan believes the US won the Vietnam War :D
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David Blacker / February 19, 2012
“Unlike you, my objective here is not to display personal information”,/em>
Well it is you that volunteered personal info on your heritage unasked. Why are you now getting all cagey?
“How about the episode where you laughed as your comrade shot the foreign medic? Shooting unarmed medics is a war crime.”
Firstly, laughing at a war crime is not a war crime :D If so, you would be guilty of the same, having publicly (but of course anonymously) approved of US war crimes such as torture, and the murder of Muslim civilians. Secondly, can you quote me as having said I laughed at such an incident? Are we to understand, that like your previous nonsensical accusation of war crimes, this too will go unsubstantiated into the realm of petty personal insults?
“Western technology won that war, not the Sinhala-Buddhist clowns who require Chinese help to build roads.”
What western technology do you mean? The technology that lost the Vietnam War and the Iraq War? Yes, unfortunately your Sinhalese brothers do seem incapable of building a road. However, they are good at killing Tigers and winning wars.
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Nihal P / February 18, 2012
Sri Lankan Army barbarians continue their dirty work unopposed:
By various NGO estimates, 35,000 Sri Lankan troops are still stationed in Jaffna alone, overseeing a population of 626,000 people – roughly one soldier to every 18 citizens, including women, children, the elderly and the sick.
“Even in the most interior villages it is impossible to walk or travel by motorbike for even five minutes before seeing, encountering or being stopped by a soldier,” Ruki Fernando, head of the human rights in conflict programme at the Law and Society Trust in Colombo, told IPS.
“The presence of military personnel is very different in Colombo, where they are mostly hailed as war heroes. But in the North and East, civilians are forced to walk among soldiers who bombed their homes and villages, killed their family members, abducted their loved ones and engaged in physical and sexual abuse – this is hardly a recipe for reconciliation,” he added.
Same day, different uniform
It is a widely acknowledged fact that a necessary part of human healing is the expression of grief. But in the North and East, the military has rendered collective grieving virtually impossible by tearing up graveyards thought to contain fallen Tigers, buried amidst civilian remains; razing memorials to the ground and paving over historic battle sites where once school children had laid flowers and lit candles for their martyred parents.
Having lived for 30 years under the LTTE’s steel-toed boot, Tamil civilians had hoped that the war’s end would bring a chance to eke out a living and rebuild their lives, but the military’s omnipresence appears to be stifling every possibility for the largely impoverished population.
“The army is blatantly obstructing people who are trying to develop themselves economically by taking over a range of commercial establishments and sectors,” Fernando said.
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=106787
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Nihal P / February 20, 2012
It seems the government school rabble have some misconceptions about “race.” “White” and “Asian” are not races.”White” refers to a pigmentation and “Asian” refers to a geographical distinction. Furthermore, not everyone in SL is either 100% Sinhala-Buddhist or Tamil, contrary to the claims of Mahavamsa. There are also Moors and Burghers, two groups which were in abundance on the island; most of the Burghers were chased away by the Sinhala-Buddhists after Independence.
Modern genetics has in fact made the notion of “race” largely obsolete, but of course, genetics is not something the rabble learn. It’s much easier to convince them of the “value” of their existence with a gun or spade, and big military parade, as Hitler realized.
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Mango / February 21, 2012
Nihal/Heshan Chimp said: “Obviously humans and chimpanzees share most of the same genes, since humans evolved from chimps.“
Now Nihal/Heshan chimp says: “..genetics is not something the rabble learn.”
So, as a self-admitted “rabble”, does that mean that your favourite bedroom German General Erwin Rommel followed Hitler because of Adolf arranged on some really cool parades with goose-stepping soldiers?
Mein Gott, Heshan, there’s really no end to your idiocy, is there? Thanks be to Allah!
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padraigcolman / February 21, 2012
Once again Professor Nihal is telling me something I already knew. Speaking for myself I only mentioned the race thing when Nihal made a fatuous comment about racial purity and “contaminating the gene pool”, something which cause mirth to any modern geneticist. He has this trick of attributing his own absurd notions to those who disagree with him.
What is this about government schools rabble? Nihal knows fine well that the only education I received in Sri Lanka has been recently at the Academy of Professor Nihal. Previusly I was educated at Sir Thomas Rich’s Bluecoat School (founded 1666) and the University of Manchester. He also must know that Professor Roberts was a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford University. I do not know Nihal’s alma mater.
I note that he has not responded to my response to his smears about my views on the IRA. Slipping and sliding as usual!
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Nihal P / February 22, 2012
A bit hasty there, Padraig. The comment was not directed at you. I am well aware of your educational credentials. Racial purity? You must have misread what I wrote; I said that the Mahavamsa claim of Sinhalese being Aryans from West Bengal no longer holds water, given the intermarriage between Sinhalese and Tamils/Veddahs over the past few millenia. Modern genetics has largely validated my claim.
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