20 July, 2019

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International Court Of Justice & The ‘Ceylon Tamils’

By K. Anaga

It is said that The International Court of Justice, the highest court of the United Nations came to the conclusion that Britain should return the Chagos Islands archchipelago to Mauritius without delay. At the ICJ Mauritius claimed they were coerced into handing over the Chagos Island to Britain at the time of their independence in 1968. That is 20 years after the independence of Ceylon. 

Prior to the capture of Ceylon by the British, North and East were not merged with rest of Ceylon. It was the British who were responsible for the merger which resulted in the unfortunate plight of the Tamils in Srilanka today.

The Tamils, who were concentrating in drafting of the Constitution of Ceylon, without asking for petty favours from Sir Ivor Jennings, should have demanded independence for the North and East as Tamil Eelam or at least a Federal State. But the Tamils, who were in prominent position in the Ceylon Government and those politicians who were trying to lead the Tamils were rather complacent. In that, it appears that they never even in their wildest dreams expected to be treated as second class citizens. The British government too contributed its share to the plight of the Tamils by their actions and inaction when and where necessary.

 As if to add insult injury the British Government supported the Srilankan government in their war with the Tamils, thus committing Human Rights violation along with India, China and Pakistan. No wonder human right violation by India and other countries that supported the war are trying to eclipse the rights violation. 

The Tamils realized their folly only when DS.Senanayake, subtly commenced his colonization of the East and disenfranchisement of the of the hill country Tamils.

Here too, GG. Ponnambalam of the Tamil Congress party did not take any interest as he was ‘fascinated’ by the offer of a ministry it appears. However, SJV Chelvanayakam broke away from the Tamil Congress and started the Tamil Arasuk Kadchi and opposed the Disenfranchisement and the state aided colonization of the North and East with the Sinhalese, to change the texture of the population.

After reading the ICJ judgment against Britain, I am inclined to believe that the   Tamil political parties should have filed a case in the UN against Britain to restore the status quo of the Tamil population prior to the British and Dutch rule.

The Tamil community was blessed with many leading lawyers KC’s, QC’s, PC’s and other VIP’s who were bestow with Knighthoods, from the British Monarchy. But they failed in their duty to take appropriate action to explore the possibilities of redeeming the position of the Tamils in Ceylon.

It may not have been possible to convince the British government to look back and then look forward to the possible discrimination that may be heaped on the Tamils by Sinhalese in various manners. Sir Ivor Jennings has confessed somewhere, that he had committed a grave mistake in not providing enough safe guard for the Tamils in the constitution drafted by him. Crying over split milk doesn’t take you anywhere. But, fresh milk could have been made available to Tamils with his powerful influence, though waning, with the passage of time.

It appears the Colonial government was in a hurry to get out of Ceylon soon after they were deprived of their larger prey –India, where they caused criminal chaos between India and Pakistan when they moved out, with no concern for humanity.

 It may be that Britain expected the Tamils to be faithful servants to the Sinhalese as much as they were to the Colonial Masters. To a certain extent it was true.  The Tamils in higher echelon were satisfied with personal glory than the future of the Tamils in general. The stalwarts like C. Suntharlingam, (Great Mathematician) a CCS, who threw off his position as he was fed of signing Gun Licenses. GG.Ponnambalm QC, A famous criminal lawyer and a Minister in the UNP Government, Sir Vaithilingam Duraisamy,(Speakerof the State Council) Sir Kanthia Vathianathan (Secretary to the Prime minister DS.Senanayake) Raju Coomaraswamy popularly known as rowing Raju, Mr. Kanagasundaram (CCS) who was the Chairman of the Galoya Devlopment Board.  He was removed at the instance of Philip Gunawardena, as he did not like a  an efficient Tamil at the helm of affairs, where colonization of Sinhalese was in full swing, during the Bandaranaike regime – a continuation of the late Father of the Nation’s Scheme. 

It is not known whether the VIP’S mentioned above did not ‘feel’ the undercurrent in operation against the Tamils or did not care.  Probably, their mission was selfish and vision was self centred. Perhaps they realized the situation rather too late.

I am thinking loud  that the Tamils spread all over the world l should explore the possibilities of referring the plight of the Tamils to the International Court of Justice in a similar manner as what Mauritius did and regain the North and East as the Traditional Homeland of the Tamils. 

To sum it up, the British government is totally responsible for merger of the Tamil Provinces of North and East with rest of Ceylon and helping the Srilankan Government along with Indians, to murder of 40,000 Tamils during and after he the war in the year 2009. The UK government shedding crocodile tears over the Tamil refugees is not going to suffice. They should wipe their ‘tears’ and take meaningful steps to restore the position of the Tamils prior to their arrival in Ceylon or at least ensure a federal state for Tamils, similar to Scotland. 

The leading Tamil Legal luminaries’ like Sumanthiran PC, and Kanagaeaswarn PC who rose up to the occasion to ‘Save Democracy’ as  claimed by them, should engage  the  services of the Sinhalese lawyers too, whose keenness for justice and fair play, has not yet been eroded fully.   The British Legal Luminaries assistance too may be obtained to sort out matters with Inter National Court of Justice.

I am sure, Sumanthiran will be well aware of the saying “Ask and You shall Receive and Knock and it shall Open”, because he practiced this on Mahinda recently to allow Sampanthan to continue living in the official residence of the leader of the opposition, though he is not entitled to it after the ‘demise’ of his status with the restoration of ‘democracy’ by removal of Mahinda from the post of Prime Minister.  Unfortunately, the interest shown by Sumanthiran to house Sampanthan comfortably (which is necessary at his age) was not extended to his voters; even to live with ‘discomfort’ in their own “home sweet home” taken over by the Government during the Massacre of the Tamils, however dilapidated it may be now.

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    ” prior to the capture of Ceylon by the British North & East not merged with rest of the Island”

    North & East was not merged because East was under the rule of KIng of Kandy. If there was any kingdom in North it was confined only up to Elephant Pass. Portuguese not considered Sangili as a King but only as a criminal.

    “Restore the status quo of Tamil population prior to the British & Dutch rule.”

    That is a good idea. All the workers brought to work in plantations in the hill country & other workers brought for tobacco plantation & settled in NE can be sent to India.

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      The people of the Indian Ocean Chagos Islands were displaced by UK, to set up the US military Base Diego Garcia. ICJ has ruled that it is an ongoing crime against humanity – right next door to Sri Lanka.

      The Human Rights community – NPC, CPA, Madam Nimalka Fernando who weep buckets at injustice should take up the issue of the Human Rights of Chagossians, and take the US and UK to UNHRC.
      Long live the US funded Colombo Human Rights NGO Band wagon!

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        Yes, Tamils of Sri Lanka should quit whining for their diaspora and US-UK-EU paymasters and take up the cause of the displaced Chagossians and the need to de-colonize the Indian Ocean and its rich fisheries and mineral resources which are being stolen by European Colonial powers – Britain, France , Spain EU.

        Colonial powers set up ethnic and religious armed conflicts to Divide and Rule and distract from their looting of colonized folks land and marine resources.

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        If Colombo NGOs take up the case of displaced Chagos Islanders who want to return to their Indian Ocean home, at UNHRC in Geneva – as they should because Chago Islands is a long forgotten Indian Ocean neighbour — the NGO wallahs would still get trips to Geneva for their HR activism, No?

        On second thoughts their funds from US, UK and EU may dry up?!

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        As soon as the war ended, with all the blessings from US and EU, the UN has put a chain to squeeze Sri Lanka’s neck in the name of UNHRC resolutions fully supported by the TNA which no SL government can get rid of however much they try.

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      Get hold of good history book and read it properly.

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      Latha
      Plantations in the hill country & other workers brought for tobacco plantation & settled in NE can be sent to India.

      Who will work tea factories, Good for indian they will export tea and tobacco to sri lanka

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      “……… …. north east can be sent to India”Including the Sinhales who follow Buddhism as Buddha belonged to India.

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        Tamils say we beat the drum, you dance to our Tune. Some times, they say Sinhalas are converted low caste Tamils. some times they say Tamils were and are buddhists too. Other times they say sinhala people sinhalize North and build buddha statues. they never complain about Christianization or building churches in the north or building hindu temples in the south. It is only there way.

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      Latha

      “North & East was not merged because East was under the rule of KIng of Kandy.”

      Please cite evidence.
      Do you know the borders of Kingdoms moved along with the whims and fancies of the one who had the biggest stick.
      When was Kandyan Kingdom come into being?

      “Portuguese not considered Sangili as a King but only as a criminal.”

      As far as I know all kings are criminals, murderers, ……. so whether sangili was a criminal or not Portuguese never respected any one other than their own people.

      By the way some 3000 Lascarins (Sinhalese: ලස්කිරිඤ්ඤ, translit. laskiriñña, Tamil: லசுக்காரின், translit. Lacukkāriṉ or Lascareen, Lascoreen and Lascarine) went along with Portuguese army to capture Jaffna Kingdom which also had close links with Vanni, Kandy, …..
      Lascarins were the indigenous Sinhalese soldiers who fought for the Portuguese during the Portuguese era (1505–1658).

      Whichever way you try to undermine the rights of the people (including Sinhalese, Tamils, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Christians, …..) you will find the people like you who consider themselves the Sinhala/Buddhists (fascist) are behind it.

      “All the workers brought to work in plantations in the hill country & other workers brought for tobacco plantation & settled in NE can be sent to India.”

      What About the rest a substantial number who are settled in the South? Don’t you think they also should be sent back to India as part of your ethnic cleansing national (nation building) policy?

      The crucial point is that what are we going to do with people like you whose ancestors at one point in time came to this island on Kallthonies from South India, converted to fit in with the local, and their descendants claim to be Sinhala/Buddhists?
      It appears you have lot of unutilised spare time in your hand.

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        Vedda

        Now boarders have already moved. You know very well what happened in May 2009.

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          Latha

          “Now boarders have already moved. You know very well what happened in May 2009.”

          Only stupid ignorants could come up with this stupid typing.
          The borders moved just after 1983.
          It could also move again.
          Remember Indian borders have moved several times since 1947.
          In Europe many borders shifted in the past 30 years.

          You are rest assured shifting borders will not cease when we have bigoted little islanders like you , gloating and boating about unpredictable future.

          Experts predict another huge tsunami within the next few years. Waves could reach 650 metres high. The border may shift again to Kandy and beyond. Prepare for shifting your Mahasangha to Indian North or Dharamshala where they could learn about Buddhism.

          When was Kandyan Kingdom come into being?

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      Latha

      Kandy was mostly ruled by the Kalinga (from Orrisa) and the last four kings of Kandy were Nayakkar (from Madurai, Tamil Nadu). Some parts of the Northern and Eastern Province came under the Kandyan Kingdom only after the arrival of the Portuguese in the 15th century and the fall of Jaffna Kingdom. The Tamil Hindus of North and East came under severe atrocities, the Portuguese were attacking (demolishing) the Hindu temples and forcefully converting the Hindus to Christianity/Catholism. The only kingdom that was left (existed) in Sri Lanka during that period (both Kotte and Jaffna kingdoms fell into the hands of the Portuguese) was the Kandyan kingdom and therefore many of the old Tamil Hindu principalities of North and East sought protection from the Kandyan king. (The Tamil Hindus had no problems being under the Buddhist Kandyan king rather than the Christian Portuguese). The Kandyan rule of North and East does not deny the Tamil presence in those areas. Some parts of the Northern and Eastern Province coming under the Kandyan Kingdom made no difference to the Tamil position in regard to the inhabitancy or origin.

      Nobody has ever come across a Sinhala person or family that claimed a Northern or Eastern Province habitatncy or origin. If you speak to the Sinhalese living in those areas today, each one of them will say that their father, grandfather or great grandfather is from the South (settled in North & East by the government after independence) where as there are any number of Tamils who hail from North and East and proudly proclaim their habitancy.

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        La La
        Good for a fairy tale. There are lot of evidence that say Sinhalese people lived in NE were chased away or killed by invaded Tamils from south India. Others got assimilated to Tamils. Recent example is chasing away entire Muslim population from the North

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          Latha,

          When you cannot digest the facts you call it fairy tale, LOL!

          Out of your ‘lot of evidence’ can you share just one authentic evidence to prove that the Sinhalese people who lived in NE were chased away or killed by invaded Tamils. Just one will do if you can!

          At least can you find a Sinhalese person from any part of Sri Lanka who can come out and say that his/her Vasagama is a name from any part of North & East? Even those Sinhalese who are living in the NorthEast today were colonized only after 1948 by DS Senanayake.

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            First you tell us how you speak the exact same language as in Tamilnadu. Also tell how you managed to not have any linguistic borrowings from the Sinhalese or the Vaeddas, living in this island which has no natural barriers. Linguistically both the above are impossible, if you had been here from time immemorial as claimed.

            Tamil invaders took the north from the Sinhalese by brutally massacring the Sinhalese and ethnic cleansing the Sinhalese. Until the late 13th century there were no permanent Tamil settlements anywhere in this island.

            As late as 1544 there were Sinhalese living in the north, but the last of the Sinhalese were ethnic cleansed by the Tamil invader Sankili who was ruling Jaffna at that time.
             
            This ethnically cleansing of the Sinhalese Buddhists from Jaffna is narrated in the Tamil document Yalpana Vaipava Malai and corroborated by Portuguese documents:
             
            “After the massacre of the Christians Sankili’s insane fury longed for more victims and he fell upon the Buddhists of Jaffna who were all Sinhalese. He expelled them beyond the limits of the country and destroyed their numerous places of worship. Most of them betook themselves to the Vannis and the Kandyan territories.”
             
            What were these numerous Buddhist places of worship the Tamils destroyed in 1544, when they ethnically cleansed the Sinhalese from Jaffna?
             
            Kadurugoda (Kantarrodai), Vaelipura (Vallipuram), Nagadipa, Dambakola patuna etc. Today all Tamilized into unrecognizable Tamil names.

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      Latha
      “All the workers brought to work in the South”
      In the 16th century, the Portuguese and in the 18th century, the Dutch who occupied the island brought in tens of thousands of low caste (Dalit) people from South India (mainly from Cochin/Kochi in the Malabar coast/presently Kerala and from Tutucorin/Thootukudy in the Coromandel Coast/presently Tamil Nadu) and settled them in the Southern parts of the island from Puttalama up to Matara as menial laborers (for growing/peeling cinnamon – today known as Salagama caste, for fishing/pearl diving – today known as Karawa caste, coconut planting/plucking and toddy tapping – today known as Durawa caste, and for many other jobs). Within a few centuries, the Sinhala population in the South increased exponentially when these people assimilated with the local Sinhala population (Sinhalized) by adopting the Sinhala language/culture and the Buddhist/Christian religion and getting converted to Sinhala Buddhists and Sinhala Catholics. Names we now consider Sinhala, like Kodippili, Samarappili, Samarakkodi, Kuruppu, Samaradivakara, Samarasinghe, and many more are Malayalam, a language close to Tamil, and Ileperuma, Mannapperuma, Pullaperuma, Ponnamperuma, Alahakone, Ilangakone, Ilangasinghe and many more are Tamil.
      Dr. Paul E. Pieris has published extracts from the Portuguese tombo records which gives the original names of the present day Sinhalese with Portuguese surnames before their conversion to Christianity and Buddhism. Dr. Pieris states: “The names deserve special attention, the majority appear to have been converted and adopted European Surnames names. For example, Fernando being the most popular surname, but the native name is also given among them being the following: Vira Cutti, Parama Cutti, Nila Cutti, Nahepulle, Avepulle, etc. These point to recent South Indian origin. They adopted Portuguese surnames such as Perera, De Silva, Fernando, and so on to hide their original South Indian low caste identity.

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        Latha,
        Professor K.M. de Silva in his book `A History of Sri Lanka`(University of California Press, 1981. p.81), refers to the migration of the Karawe, Salagama, and Durawe castes from Southern India to Sri Lanka between the 14th and 17th centuries AD.
        Professor of Anthropology Gananath Obeyesekere (in his book “Buddhism, Ethnicity, and Identity,”) states that “viewed in long term historical perspective Sinhalas have been for the most part South Indian migrants who have been sasanized (converted to Buddhism)”.
        If you read the book “The World’s Oldest Trade”: Dutch Slavery and Slave Trade in the Indian Ocean in the Seventeenth Century” you will see that the Dutch had settled tens of thousands of South Indian slaves from Colombo to Galle.
        Today, it is well known that the descendants of these Dalit South Indians (mainly from Thoothukuddy and Kochi) who got converted to Buddhism and became Sinhalese (to hide their low caste South Indian identity) are the most anti-Tamil racists. Today their descendants are not only claiming the ancient Sri Lankan civilization as their own ‘Sinhala-Buddhist’ heritage but have also become the patriots and champions of Sinhala-Buddhist chauvinism. They have become distinct, ‘North Indian Sinhabahu’s Lion-blooded Sinhala Aryans’, the Nationalist Patriots and guardians of the country (Sri Lanka) and its Religion (Buddhism) and call themselves the blood relatives of Dutugemunu. Professor K.M. de Silva very clearly says they are all South Indians who got converted to Buddhism and became Sinhalese only a few centuries ago.

        Watch the following, it is the fact:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb8PZtKWG6Y

        The Sinhalese became a majority in Sri Lanka only after assimilating with the Dalit South Indians who were brought by the Portuguese and the Dutch.

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      Latha you are wrong. Eastern province north of Mahaveli river was under Jaffna kingdom. When Portuguese annexed Jaffna kingdom this part of eastern province was under their rule. This is why when Robert Knox landed in Trincomalee nothing happened to him. It is only when he crossed Mahaveli river into Mutur that he was taken into custody by guards of Kandyan kingdom and produced before the King. The tree to which Knox was tied before before being transported is being preserved as a national treasure. Please note that northern parts of anuradhapura district and part of Puttalam district north of Deduru oya were under Jaffna kingdom. Part of Puttalam district south of Deduru oya was called Demala Hatpattu denoting that people who lived there were Tamils. These people were Catholics of Karawe caste who were brought by Portuguese from Tamil Nadu. In order to get protection from Kandyan King to escape persecution by Protestant Dutch, they declared themselves as Sinhalese and continued to speak Tamils. It is only in twentieth century, Catholic church made them to study Sinhala and now they call themselves Sinhalese. Please do not distort facts to propagate your racist agenda. (Continued).

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        The Portugues rule ended in 1640.
        Robert Knox was taken captive in November of 1659.
        The above two FACTS show that Knox was taken prisoner during Dutch rule in Trincomalee.

        But according to you Trincomalee was under the Portuguese 20 years after they left the island? Really dumb of you to lie like this.

        Also somewhere in 1638, Rajasinha II gave Trincomalee to the French. How is that possible if Trincomalee was under the Tamils and had fallen to the Portuguese? (I really do not know, and am not interested in reading Tamil lies about the French – Dutch – Portuguese – Sinhalese – English relationships centered around some Tamil super power in Trincomalee. If somebody can give some reliable information it will be good). My point is that Trincomalee was not under the Tamils. Except for the core area in Jaffna, the Tamils never really had the possibility to hold on to any land area. When it comes to the east of the island – that area was first depopulated because of the different wars, and then got Tamilized during the late colonial rule, even then the east was very thinly populated. There are some British writings from about 1796 – to early years in the 1800’s, about how they intended to bring Tamils and settle them in Vanni. In one place they are talking of bringing even Chinese to settle in the thinly populated areas – the British like the Dutch wanted to make the island into a crop producing colony. There are several surveys done by both the Dutch and the British in this regard. Find them and read them – Tamil homeland hoax falls into pieces from the information in some Dutch and British documents, not to mention Robert Knox’s writings.

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      (Continued) Just because Parts of eastern province was under Kandyan kingdom does not mean that the land belongs to them. By the same argument Sri Lanka should belong to British since it was once a part of their empire. Furthermore the original people of eastern province are the Veddhas who lived in the area extending from Mutur to Kumana, who have been Tamilized. The seat of power of the Veddahs was recently discovered in Vaharai confirming their age old presence. The first immigrants were Tamils who have been there for over 2000 years as evidenced by the discovery of stone inscriptions in Mahiladitivu and Kathiravei in Battticaloa and Weber stadium in Trincomalee. There is not a single stone inscription in Sinhala of that antiquity found anywhere in eastern province. Eastern province was created by British for their own convenience where Sinhala villages like Gomarankadawela and Lahugala were included. British cannot be blamed entirely for the current situation in eastern province because after independence the racist Sinhala regime in order to create a Sinhala majority Amparai district, removed Maha Oya and Padiyatalawa revenue districts from Uva and linked to eastern province. Also large scale Sinhala settlements by the government and ethnic cleansing of Tamils by both Sinhalese and Muslims have done great injustice to Tamils to deny their rights. (Continued)

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      (Continued) “All the workers brought to work in plantations in the hill country & other workers brought for tobacco plantation & settled in NE can be sent to India”. Well and good but apply the same rule equally to all. In the same token, all the workers brought to work in cinnamon plantation by Portuguese who belong to Salagama caste and all the Karawe people brought by Portuguese to fish, and all the people who came to fight for the Sinhala kings and settled in other seven provinces also should be sent to India. Then what about sending to India all those descendants of 700 Kallathonis who came begging for asylum and when granted killed the queen and usurped the land. Only those who could prove that they have genetic similarity to Veddhas or at least some proportion of Veddha genes have the right to remain. With increasing geological, archaeological and genetic evidence Sinhala racist propaganda that Sri Lanka belongs solely to Sinhalese and Tamils have no claim to any part of it, is rank racism which will not be accepted by any civilized society.

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      “All the workers brought to work in plantations in the hill country & other workers brought for tobacco plantation & settled in NE can be sent to India”

      Will that bring down their population to 1% or even little less? ;-)

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        Yes, that will bring down the Sri Lankan population to 1% or even little less because only the aboriginal vedas will be left in the country.

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        Abdul Kader the Islamic infidel, stop grunting. Before Tamils will be reduced to 1% or less, Sinhalese will follow Myanmar example and reduce Muslims to 0%.

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    K Anaga,

    RE: International Court of Justice and Ceylon Tamils,

    Thanks for the article.

    Yes, per determination of the ICJ , a part of the UN ( formed after the Second Colonial War, aka WW 2), The Great Britain should return, the Chagos Islands to Mauritius.

    Yes, the Para-Sinhala father of the nation, conspired with Para-Tamils, to disenfranchise the Para-Up Coubtry Tamils, while only the Para-Sinhala Leftist Parties opposed it.

    The travesty of justice against the Para-Ceylon Tamils by the Para-Ceylon. Sinhalese continued after independence by the British, in the land of Native Veddah Aethho.

    The Land belongs to the Native Veddah Aethho, and not to the Paras from Bharat(India). A case should be made to respirate the Paras back to India and elsewhere from the land to the ICJ.

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      Amarasiri

      Why Sinhalese leave their own country. They are the ones who built Sinhalese Buddhist civilization here. South Indians mostly Tamils who are destroying it since 3000 years now. Don’t compare Sinhalese & Tamils as same. In Japan there live Chinese & Koreans for thousands of years. But Japan is Japanese people country.

      Next time you will say Americans leave from US & hand it over to Red Indians Australians go out, give the country to Aboriginals.

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        “They are the ones who built Sinhalese Buddhist civilization here”

        Can you tell us what is Sinhalese Buddhist civilization???
        Even the Mahavamsa or any other early historic documents and artefacts do not say anything about a Sinhalese Buddhist civilization.
        Building a few tanks and canals to take water to the fields, and a few Dagabas does not make a civilization. These were BASIC ESSENTIALS of the economic & religious life of any settled community.

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          Deva

          These were BASIC ESSENTIALS of the economic & religious life of any settled community

          Without any thing like these( ?) basic essentials made by Tamils to show, indicates their recent settlement in the country.
          Tamils can write any lie here but nobody in the world believe them. That is the most important thing.

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        Latha

        “Why Sinhalese leave their own country.”

        Its not their country.
        They are descendants of Kallathonies from South India.
        What did they build, bridges, all those foreign exchange earning plantations, power stations, airports, harbours, roads, Accelerated Mahaweli Programme, Uda Walawe Irrigation Project, …… Samadhi Buddha Statue in Rambadagalla, …. all those planes, ships, trains, motor vehicles, ……………

        Your ancestral homeland is in South India.

        Where did you acquire taste for luxuries?

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          Vedda

          It is not their country.

          Are you hallucinating?

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            latha

            “Are you hallucinating?”

            Nopes, you should check your mental well being with the right Doctor. Those who are permanently addicted to parochial, bigotry and racism and paranoia cannot see straight or know facts.

            Weren’t your beastly ancestors came from Lata land in Sinhapura?


            When was Kandyan Kingdom come into being?

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        Latha / March 9, 2019,

        The land of Native Veddah Aethho belongs to the Aethho, and not to the illegal Hora Orus and Kalla-Thonies, irrespective of whether they put up, mud or stome buildings, and cultivated different crops.

        Original Article | Published: 07 November 2013

        Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations
        Lanka Ranaweera, Supannee Kaewsutthi, Aung Win Tun, Hathaichanoke Boonyarit, Samerchai Poolsuwan & Patcharee Lertrit

        https://www.nature.com/articles/jhg2013112

        Journal of Human Genetics volume 59, pages 28–36 (2014)

        Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.

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        Lathe

        Why then black july happened if every one are sri lankan.

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        Latha

        “Why Sinhalese leave their own country.”

        How come the Sinhalese who came as immigrants from India (both North and South) and brought Buddhism from India claim to own the whole island as their own country? What about the Tamils who came as immigrants from India (South) and brought Hinduism from India and the Muslims who came as immigrants from Arabia and brought Islam from Arabia and the Burghers who came as immigrants from Europe and brought Christianity from Europe. All of them are immigrants and all the four major religions practiced in the island were imported from outside. The ONLY original sole owner of the island is the aboriginal Vedha.

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          rbh, La La, …………….

          The Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims can and free to claim any damn thing while the fact remains they are the descendants of Kallathonies and do not have the right to claim a piece of land as theirs.

          They are here on temporary visa. Their visas renewable only on their good conduct.

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            Native

            Who is guiging good conduct when events happen like july 83 every body is involved conduct changes.

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    Even though Mohd Ali Jinna was a close friend of Gandhi and Nehru, he did not want the Muslims to be ruled by Hindu India and asked for separation (Pakistan) at independence. At independence, the Tamil leaders should have demanded independence for the North and East or at least a Federal State just like the leaders of Pakistan but unfortunately, the Tamil leaders foolishly trusted/believed the Sinhalese leaders. Even when the upcountry Kandyan Sinhalese suggested to the British on two different occasions that Sri Lanka should have a federal structure divided into three areas: the Central, the South/West and the North/East, but the Tamil leaders rejected it. Unlike the Pakistani/Indian leaders who had a foresight, our Tamil leaders were fools who believed that the Sinhalese will treat them as equals. Very much after independence they realized that the majority Sinhala-Buddhists fooled them and cheated them.

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      Deva

      We still continue to have fools in TNA who trust Sinhalese politicians and say again and again to the Tamils that the new constitution will be passed soon and all their problems will be solved before next Deepavali, each year.

      My friend says TNA / FP politicians are not fools but the people who elect them in each and every election are the fools. What shall I say ?

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        Your question, ‘What shall I say ?’ is so easy to answer. Do you want me to give it to you, or you want to figure it out yourself. (If you need my assistance, do not hesitate to ask for it.)

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          In Tamil thappu means wrong. So I do hesitate to know the answer from a wrong person. However pleased to know your answer, because I raised that question expecting to know the readers reactions and you fall within that category. The answer I figured it out may sometimes be incorrect. Hope your answer will be a correct one and acceptable to many readers.

          Tamils were made to believe that Tamil Arasu is on their door step and they should welcome with kumpam on sun rise, by incendiary rhetoric songs and speeches of Mavai, Vannai, Kasi, Rajathurai, Mr & Mrs Amir, Masoor Moulana, Ashrof, Velan, and few others since 1970s. So please avoid to quote any of these ” jampavans ” in your reply.

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      DEVA: Don’t say Stupid talks. I think British and americans att hat time wanted Mahabharatha devided because it was a too big land mass and so much population. Muslims were set up. Gandhi ike people were not that intelligent and git caught in the British ploys. British destroyed, I think even the Nehru family.

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    The displacement of the Indian Ocean’s Chagos Islanders by UK and US military base at Diego Garcia, next door to Sri Lanka, is an on going Crime against Humanity by US and UK against the Chagossians. The people of Chagos Islands were displaced for the infamous US Military Base DIEGO GARCIA there,.
    Just like in Chagos the US-UK HUMAN RIGHTS ENDGAME in Sri Lanka is US bases in Trincomaless’s China Bay, now that China has Hambantotoa. This is why US citizen and Avant Guard Scammer Gotabaya Rajapakse is scot and protected by US Puppet Bondscam Ranil.
    Tamils should wake Up!!
    Also, Sumanthiran is bought and sold on US Funds and Trips for his daugher’s education in US, but should join with Jehan Perera and NPC to seek the return of Chagos Islands to its peoples and take the US and UK to UNHRC for gross violation and genocide against the Chagossians .
    Chagos Islands as the ICJ ruled is an on going crime by the US and UK – just next to Sri Lanka in the Indian Ocean

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    anaga
    obviously you are not a student of history but of myths and legends
    do you want to start another war?

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      I am not a student of history. I studied history by reading the book ‘Our Heritage’ At that time there was no apparent Sinhala Tamil Problem although there was some undercurrent – but not very ‘shocking’. When ever Tamils bring to light some discrepancies, the Sinhalese call it a myth. But Mahawansa and the Sinhla Buddhist, nation based on it are TRUTH? Lord Buddha lived before the advent of Buddhism.Lord Buddha was a Hindu converted to Buddhism against his wish, not in physical form but in “soul form”. You don’t have to be a historian to learn the past. There is a Tamil saying that’ Kai Punnukku Kannadi Thevai Illai” Meaning there is no need for a Mirror to see the wound in the palm .
      Now we hear that the skeleton found in the Mannar graves are over 500 years old. Is there any historical facts in it?. Knowing the interest of USA in Srilanka and the world’s involvement in the War against the Tamils, USA is playing safe.For what ever its worth., It may be prudent to ascertain the ‘Preservative Quality’ in the Soil of Mannar to have preserved the bones and full skeletons for over 500 years.
      .

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    Mr Anaga
    I never argue over history. My premise is the EXISTING demographic distribution of Tamils (all Tamil speaking people irrespective of their religion caste or the date of arrival) across the island. So long as +50% of them live outside NE and so long as all of them prefer to live outside NE THERE IS NO CONCEIVABLE SOLUTION TO THE TAMIL NATIONAL PROBLEM. If you are serious about the predicament of Tamils I suggest you launch a committed campaign encouraging them to relocate themselves into NE. The day I observe one family moving out I will be with you in the forfront of your struggle. Until that day dawns I am entitled to feel superior as a Sinhalese.

    Soma
    (I am the only Sinhalese in this forum who supports a separate Homeland for all Tamils)

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      Thank you Soma. The national problem will be solved once you adopt a Federal solution. The Tamils who are in the south and the Diaspora will move back to North and East as they won’t have the fear of uncertainty. Unfortunately most of the Sinhalese unlike you are not happy with the Tamils getting together. That is why they are colonizing. When the diaspora returns to the north and east they can with their financial resource build up NE. This will not only help NE but help the whole of Srilanka by building trust among both communities. I am aware of some of my friend who wanted to invest in Srilanka changed their mind due to the prevailing situation.
      You are entitled to feel superior/inferior” until the day dawns” and when the day dawns I wouldn’t like to feel either superior or inferior but equal in all respect.
      Thank you once again.

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        K.Anaga
        “When the diaspora returns to the north and east they can with their financial resource build up NE. This will not only help NE but help the whole of Srilanka by building trust among both communities”

        Diaspora will never give up their western passports and return to the North. All they want is to enjoy the good life in their adopted land and cause misery for their kind in the North with their divisive arguments.

        Neither will most of the 50% plus Tamils living outside North return. They will never exchange their palatial houses in Colombo 4, 5, 7 etc., chumaries in Wellawatte and I’nal schools and prestigious schools such as Royal, St.Thomas etc. for living and schooling in the North.

        Imagine the likes of Sumanthiran, Wigneswaran et al taking permanent residence in Jaffna after selling their properties in Colombo!

        Get real and talk sense man.

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          As usual You are in a word of your own. Federal form is not division of the country but division of power. Howe many Sinhalese starting from Rajapakswe have dual citizenship. Do you know that India has more Muslims than Pakistan, even after division.
          If you do not put a spoke in the wheel there will be enough schools in the N/E and other facilities,. As in the past Sinhalese too will come over for education in Jaffna.. Even Maithripala Senanayake studied in St.Johns College Jaffna. Why did they bring standardization against the Tamils despite the fact that they are no good schools in Jaffna.?
          The need for the Tamils to Come to Colombo was because of the neglect of N/E. by the successive government.
          If you know that you are fool then you are not a fool, but if you don’t know, then you are one. among many like you.

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            You write, “As in the past, Sinhalese too will come over for education in Jaffna [when there is a tamil federal state].

            The “past” you refer to is the British period, when Jaffna had good schools because they were run by foreign missionaries. Do you seriously believe that that past could be replicated if the Tamils got federal powers?

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              It not during the British period even long after words. I recollect there were boys by the name of Attapatu,Edward and teachers by the name of Samara(singhe) (tunga?) Gunawardena all in St.Johns, There were others in St. Patrick, Central and Jaffna college. The past could could be replicated even better when there is no fear of one another.
              Further there was a teacher by the name of Miss Handy, whose sister Rangi of Ceylon Observer, was Married to Maithripala Senanayake. So much so it was said that Sinhala only by day Tamil only by night.

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        Mr Anga
        When VP was running a defacto government in the North the only ambition of a Tamil mother was to send her children to South.
        Even after the terrible war not a single family moved from South to North. Go and see for yourself the pathetic, demeaning life of Tamils in the upcountry. When arrangements were made to go back to their motherland you know they refused. The moment you define the boundaries of a Tamil Homeland the rest of the island becomes Sinhala Homeland. You.have to choose between the Homeland OR the right to live anywhere definitely not both. As I always say I beg of my Tamil brothers and sisters to choose the latter option.

        Soma
        ( What CT has taught me is that nothing terrifies a Tamil than the thought of living in a Tamil only enclave)

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          “Only ambition was to send her Children to the South………….” Yes. Not because of Tigers but because of the indiscriminate bombing of the north. In some cases, even Lalith Athulath Mudaly was in the bomber directing the operation. His voice clearly identified via the FM radio to which a TV antenna were attached. there were no lights for the children to study.
          Sorry, we are talking about the ICJ not about your imagination running riot. .

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      somass

      It’s been nearly 35 years since you had the last profitable riots against the Demelas. You not only made good profits out of the 1983 organised riots but also ethnically cleansed lot of the Tamils, 150,000 are still living in TamilNadu, more than 2 millions living in the west.

      It was the highly successful riots you ever organised in this island.
      You must do it once again.

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        Vedda

        Do we want to thank Tamil politicians like SJV Chelva, Amirthalingam & others?

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          latha

          You should thank the public racist Anagarika Homeless Dharmapala for poisoning the minds of many Sinhalese and Buddhists and baptising them into Sinhala/Buddhist mutant fascists.

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      Soma

      “(I am the only Sinhalese in this forum who supports a separate Homeland for all Tamils)”
      But you want all Tamils settled in the South – some families here legally for well over a century – to be relocated to this Tamil Homeland. This is a position of much personal prejudice where you are concerned. I know increasing number of Sinhalese in the South support this idea – more to grab the valuable houses, lands, professions and assets of Tamils. Take the example of Muslims in India after the partition They were not only allowed to stay but the Constitution guaranteed their safety and rights. Some of them reached the highest political office in the Union. Some of them, besides Premjee are some of the richest families in India. But here, the racist high-priests will not allow that. As to the law and the Constitution, have a chat with Governor Reginald Cooray. The President posted him as Governor, Central Province but the yellow-robed Mullahs declared “go to hell. We will only tolerate a Goigama Buddhist. Stuff your so called Constitution to you-know-where” So that’s Law and Order in this Blessed Land. Don’t the Tamils know that.

      Vanangamudi

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        Mr Vanangamudi
        You are challenging those who accuse the Sinhalese as racist , discriminatory and even genocidal. What you don’t understand is the moment you express your desire to continue living outside NE the whole rationale for a Homeland falls flat on its face. Tamil commentators on CT need some basic coaching in logic.

        Soma

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          somass

          “You are challenging those who accuse the Sinhalese as racist , discriminatory and even genocidal. “

          You wrong again.
          Sinhalese and Buddhists are plain stupid.
          The discussion is about the racist Sinhala/Buddhists and put the blame squarely on them.

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          Soma

          Just because the Tamils, out of decades of exasperation caused by Sinhala obstinacy,
          are forced to ask for a Homeland does not mean every Tamil outside has to automatically rush in there for residence. Take the single case of Kerala in adjoining South India. Just because there is a Kerala State it does not mean all Keralites have to move in there. There are millions of Keralites peacefully living for decades in Chennai, Mumbai, Delhi and so on – as you might know. Sinhala extremists like you must come to learn even at this late stage that ethnic diversity goes to make a stronger nation – such as in India, the USA, the UK, France, Germany and many civilised plural countries.

          Vanangamudi

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            Mr Vanangamudu
            ” Just because the Tamils, out of decades of exasperation caused by Sinhala obstinacy,
            are forced to ask for a Homeland does not mean every Tamil outside has to automatically rush in there for residence.”
            Self contradictory.
            You must say:
            ” Give us a Homeland. We are eagerly waiting to rush in there. We are fed up of Sinhala obstinacy”

            Soma

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    Latha !

    Do you know the last king of Kandy was a Tamil and Tamil was the Royal Language in which the Treaty of Kandy was made and signed by the British?. Not only the Kandyan Convention Even the Mulleriyawa convention was made in Tamil.

    Aetho is not a descendant from Orissa or Bengal immigrants, but a Native Tamil brother who chose not to have any dealing with the descendants of Vijaya and his Bandit friends. He was wise enough to live in the thick jungles than having any relationship with the Sinhalese.

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      Mano

      Last king of Kandy was not a Tamil but Thelugu. Sinhalese kings had matrimonial connections with Pandiyans & Thelugus. Treaty of Kandy was in Thelugu language.

      No matter if vedda descended from who ever, country belongs to the people who build the civilization here.

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        Even in India tamil leaders made the same idiotic mistake. They should have demanded a separate nation when the British were leaving India.

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        Stop lying racist woman . The language of the royal court of Kandy was Tamil and the last kings of Kandy all hailed from Tamil Nadu and considered themselves Tamils and promoted only the Tamil language . They may have been of Telugu Naicker origin but their ancestors had been in the Tamil country for centuries and they spoke only Tamil and called themselves Tamils. They treaty is there for everyone to see and it is in the Tamil language . Sinhalese Buddhist Fascists like you , ironically many of them descended from recently descended from low caste/untouchable South Indian imports from what was ancient Tamil country , modern day Tamil Nadu and Kerala. Yes more than 85% percent of Kerala was still speaking a form of Tamil until the 1820s called Malabar Tamil or Malayalama that was written in the Tamil script until the British banned the use of this language and made the highly Sanskritised dialect of the imported Namboothiri Brahmins called Grantha written in the Tilgari script as the official language and changed the name of this language from Grantha to the name of the local Tamil dialect Malayalam. The Malayalam/English dictionary published in 1785 is a Tamil/English dictionary.

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        contd: Only parts of the east came under loose control of the Tamil kings of Kandy , after the fall of the Tamil Jaffna kingdom and the Portuguese capture of many areas in the east. The Portuguese were destroying hundreds of Hindu temples , many very ancient like Thirukeetheswaram. Koneswaram, and forcibly converting the Tamil Hindus in these areas to Catholicism at gunpoint. Many Tamil Hindu chiefs in the east in desperation sought the protection of the nominally Sinhalese Tamil kings of Kandy, as this was a far better option than being under cruel rule of the Portuguese and being forcibly converted. They had no objection to the loose rule of these Kings of Kandy , as to them they were Tamil Hindu kings. This still does not negate the ancient Tamil history and claim to these lands. As per stupid argument , the Tamils can then claim the Kandyan kingdom as theirs as the last few kings of Kandy were all Tamils. Or the British and other Europeans ruled the island so the natives have no claim to the island. Stop trying to be stupid. There is no history of Sinhalese ever living in the north or east , other than in a few border villages, until after independence , when they were deliberately settled there on a large scale by various Sinhalese governments . on stolen Tamil lands, to change the demography. The history of the North and East is Tamil and Saivite and it belongs to the native Tamils( largely Naga) and the Tamilised Vedda. It was ruled by Tamil and Tamil Naga and Vedda kings and chiefs. Even the Buddhist ruins here belong to the ancient Tamil Buddhists and not to Sinhalese as now falsely claimed. Now Sinhalese who only arrived here after independence many in the last 30 years and Tamil South Indian Muslims who only arrived here a few centuries ago , as refugees, are falesely concocting all sorts of stories to steal these lands from the helpless Tamil population.

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        Further for your information the Parthiruppuwa in Kandy , from where the Kings of Kandy conducted their court and business is a corruption of the original Tamil name, that these Tamil kings gave. It is Parthu( Look/Observe) and Iruppu (sit) and was called Parthuirrupu , meaning the place from where the king sits , looks or observes and conducts his affairs.

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        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Vikrama_Rajasinha_of_Kandy
        The last Tamil king of Kandy and his family were deported to their native Tamil Nadu and he died in Salem, his direct descendants still live there.
        Stop lying . The so called Sinhalese aristocrats many of them too of Tamil Naicker/Pandyan origin betrayed the king the British , as they did not want a Tamil king to rule them( sic) and told the British how to enter the mountainous Kandyan Kingdom. The so called Sinhalese elite just like now selling the country to the Chinese, Indians and everyone else , were also very busy selling the country to everyone else from ancient times. The Sinhalese kingdom of Kotte, again ruled by a Tamil dynasty , meekly surrendered to the Portuguese and then they actively participated in the defeat of the Tamil Jaffna kingdom , with Sinhalese lascars fighting alongside their Portuguese masters. It was the Tamils who fought bravely against the Portuguese lost and suffered immensely with hundreds of Hindu temples and many other ancient monuments and palaces razed to the ground and the bricks from these temples , monuments and palaces used by the Portuguese and later the Dutch to build churches, forts and mansions for them. Later the Sinhalese invited the Dutch to chase away the Portuguese and the British to chase away the Dutch . Just like they are now playing games with the Chinese , Indians the West ,inviting them and giving large parcels of lands and enslaving the local population. Many of the so called South Indian Tamil invasions were not really invasions but invitations by one or another so called local rival to the throne, seeking help from their close Tamil relatives, uncle. father in law, cousin or grandfather, across the sea to settle the dispute in their favour. Just like Kasyappan and Mugalan.

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          RSS

          I know to you even a bird fly over Tamil Nadu it will become a Tamil bird. A Tamil lives in UK speaks English will he become a English man?

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        latha

        “Sinhalese kings had matrimonial connections with Pandiyans & Thelugus.”

        Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt
        – Mark Twain.

        So Pandyas were not Tamils?
        Thelugus were not Tamils either during and after Sangam period?
        Andhra was not part of Madras presidency either?
        Part of Tamil Nadu was not ruled by Tipu Sultan?
        This island was not ruled by Portuguese
        This island was not ruled by dutch
        This island was not ruled by Brits
        This island was not ruled by Cholas
        Part of this island was not ruled by Maha

        Well I think I should forget all my history lessons and come to you to learn the most simplest form of history. Less burden of course.
        When can I start.

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        Latha,
        The Kandyan Convention was written in Sinhalese. The Nayaka kings were most certainly not Tamils, they were Telegus. In Sinhalese they were called Vaduga (borrowed from Tamil vadugar meaning northerner) or Vaduga Demala or Andhra/Andara Demala (Andara Demala – as when we say “Andara Demala therenne nae”). All the Nayaka kings had a Sinhalese upbringing, and the first Nayaka king who was an infant boy when he came to Srilanka with his sister who was going to be the Sinhalese king Narendrasinghe’s wife was the adopted by Narendrasinghe as son and heir, and he came to power when Narendrasinghe died in 1739. These Nayaka kings were more Sinhalese than the Sinhalese themselves in their behaviour and did a lot of good for the Sinhalese people. Even the last king Sri Vikrama Rajasinghe was a good king, presented as a bad wicked king by the covert actions of the British and then taken prisoner by the British. Sri Vikrama Rajasinghe was most probably the illegitimate son of Pilimathalauwa, and it is doubtful that Sri Vikrama was thoroughly proficient in any other language than Sinhalese. If I get time I’ll write a better post, about the Nayakas and the stupid Tamils’ claims that these kings were Tamil.
         
        This is the Kandyan convention, not a single Tamil word in it. Read it and see:
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kandyan_Convention#/media/File:Page_1_Kandyan_Convention.jpg
        (you can zoom and read it and use the arrow at the right side to browse through the pages)
         
        Kandyan Convention in video version:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV4jbpjU2Ko

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          Punci Point

          Thank you for your information.

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        Latha

        “Last king of Kandy was not a Tamil but Thelugu.”

        The last king of Kandy and rest of the island was George VI (Albert Frederick Arthur George).

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    “Prior to the capture of Ceylon by the British, North and East were not merged with rest of Ceylon. It was the British who were responsible for the merger which resulted in the unfortunate plight of the Tamils in Srilanka today.”
    ————
    Sheer BS! As a descendant of a slave brought to this country by colonial bastards probably you do not the history of Sinhale or as Tamils in Hindusthan called Seehala Nadu. Sinhala civilization flourished in the Northen and Eastern part of the country. There are thousands of archeological sites in North and East as evidence for the existence of Sinhalayo in these areas. But there are no Demala archeological sites of any significance. However, Sinhalayo could not live peacefully in this area due to invasions of Dravida barbarians from Hindusthan who massacred Sinhala people and destroyed their settlements.
    ————-
    There are no Tamils in Sri Lanka. Sinhalayo called them ‘Demalu’. British called them ‘Malabaris’. Demalu are a a mixture of all kinds of Dravidian low caste people brought to this country by colonial bastards as slaves. They dumped them here and vanished. In 1911, a guy called Ponnambalam Arunachalam who prepared the Census Report change the term ‘Malabari’ to ‘Ceylon Tamils’. The term was changed but people are same ‘Malabaris’.

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      Part Malay part low caste Sinhalese, living the good life in Melbourne, thanks to his Tamil wife’s relatives . Shut up . We all know that you are a well known anti Tamil.posting all sorts of lies and untruths, especially in that Sinhalese extremist site called ” Lanka Lies” .

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    “At independence, the Tamil leaders should have demanded independence for the North and East or at least a Federal-State just like the leaders of Pakistan but unfortunately, the Tamil leaders foolishly trusted/believed the Sinhalese leaders. Even when the upcountry Kandyan Sinhalese suggested to the British on two different occasions that Sri Lanka should have a federal structure divided into three areas: the Central, the South/West and the North/East, but the Tamil leaders rejected it. Unlike the Pakistani/Indian leaders who had foresight, our Tamil leaders were fools who believed that the Sinhalese will treat them as equals. Very much after independence, they realized that the majority Sinhala-Buddhists fooled them and cheated them”is true history. When Jinnah was asking for Pakistan, which was then non-existent, based on religion, our leaders should have asked for the restoration of status quo ante of Jaffna Kingdom lost to Portuguese in the battlefield in 1619. At least they should have demanded a federal state comprising North and East. But our leaders were duped by the tongue in cheek promises trotted out by DS Senanayake. Before a vote was taken on the Soulbury Constitution, DS Senanayake held out the following promise:
    “Do you want to be governed from London or do you want, as Ceylon, to help govern Ceylon? On behalf of the (Ceylon National) Congress (founded by Sir Ponnambalam Arunachalam in 1919) and on my behalf, I give the minority communities the sincere assurance that no harm need you fear at our hands in a free Lanka.”
    But DS Senanayake took the Tamils for a ride and he never meant to keep his word.

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      Thanga says Modaye Sinhalaya (that is how cholan says) are far more intelligent than Tamils. Moda Sinhalaya could fool Tamils. How about UNHCR.

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      Thanga

      Most of the complications of history here and elsewhere that we see contemporarily are some refer to as the inevitable Process of History. When DS made his comments I don’t think perfidy was ever in his mind. The convergence almost simultaneously of the Independence, the 1956 General Election, the coming of 2,500 years of Buddhism, the ill-timed emphasis by Sinhala extremists lead by the priesthood of the Pancha Bala Vegaya fuelled by the “injustice” claimed by SWRD as inflicted on him by the Uncle Nephew Party cooked the goose for the then united and relatively prosperous Ceylon. What we saw since is the gradual decline of a country that even the wise Singapore’s LKY for years saw as a model. Do we philosophically murmur Que sera sera and look heavenwards for relief?

      What alternatives do we have today? 2 insurrections from the 2 main components of the nation, more than one Constitution and dozens of regimes promising the moon have neither united the country nor brought us economic deliverance. We are worse than ever.

      Did the late Ven. Sobita Thero – once identified as a Sinhala Buddhist hawk stained by racism – eventually see what could possibly be the way out? Or will we collapse the way
      Sudan, Zimbabwe, Venezuela crumbled until we pray for the arrival of Godot?

      Kettikaran

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      “But DS Senanayake took the Tamils for a ride and he never meant to keep his word.”

      What about the PMs and Presidents (including the current ones) ?

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    The Sinhala racists ability to twist Sri Lankan history is just unbelievable and outright pathetic and disgusting. Even though the island is literally so close to tamil nadu, that a fisherman can float on a primitive raft from TN and reach the island in virtually no time. Yet we are told by these jokers that north indians managed to find the island first somehow. There is no logic and sense it whatsoever.

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    “It is said that The International Court of Justice, the highest court of the United Nations came to the conclusion that Britain should return the Chagos Islands archchipelago to Mauritius without delay. At the ICJ Mauritius claimed they were coerced into handing over the Chagos Island to Britain at the time of their independence in 1968. That is 20 years after the independence of Ceylon. “

    K.Anaga

    Why is the ICJ not doin the same to indonesia and telling it to give back irian jaya?When the dutch left west papua was grabbed by indonesia with a fraud referendum where none of the people voted and a handful of chiefs were pressured into voting to join indonesia.After that the indonesians have killed enough protestors and tortured them and imprisoned them.Don’t you think the west pauans have a better claim than chagos island to join papua new guinea?ICJ is not clean it seems.

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    Anaga should know that unlike the Mauritius situation, LTTE waged a barbaric was against some Tamils and the Sinhalese and lost. The Mauritius solution would have been a possibility if the Tamils were smart enough to ask for it soon after the Second World War and mobilized under an intellectual umbrella. Then something close to a Federal solution could have been achieved.

    Today that is not even a remote possibility. The geopolitics have changed dramatically, and Britain has its empire in its back view mirror. The British Royals themselves are opening up themselves to commoner folks for marriage, making a non-noble woman the wife of a the son of the future king. A divorcee from America, who would have been called a mulatto only 30 years ago is married to the other heir apparent. British royalty had decided to effectively disband and in another 2-3 generations they will be like all other bicycle riding “royalty” in Europe.

    Tamils should STOP day dreaming about Eelam or whatever the other fancy thing they have in mind and get along with the Sinhalese to make this wonderful country a great place for all. The imminent problem is Jihadi, fanatic Moslems, who now dominate the East of the country and will soon become the majority. All Lankans should strive to stop the Islamic Republic of Lanka being formed by fanatic Moslems.

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      Tamils did not lose the war to the Sinhalese. It was a world war fought against India,Pakistan,China, Britain and USA by the LTTE. .The so called barbaric action was carried out by the Srilankan Government not only against the LTTE but against the Tamil population thus over 40,000 Tamils were killed. Why is the government afraid of a foreign based inquiry. They can get the help of the world to fight the Tamils but they don’t won’t the inquiry by the UN. LTTE fought the war only after all other options have failed. Banda cheated, Ranil cheated, Chandrika Cheated Dudly cheated Mahinda cheated. Lssp cheated .. Not a single Sinhala government was honest.
      I agree the Tamils were not smart enough. As indicated by me the leaders were selfish and self centred and the Sinhalese took them for a donkey ride as SAMSUM bein taken now…

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        Anaga, it was not just Tamils who went to war against the Sinhalese either. It was the might of the sympathetic Western powers, ideologically, politically, economically and at time militarily that went to war with the Lankan state using the Tamil LTTE proxy and at the beginning, with the well orchestrated 1983 riots, they were winning the battle and certainly held the ethical high ground. It was also certain factions in India, Tamil Nadu, and the vast Tamil diaspora that went to war against Lanka using its LTTE proxy. At its peak, the ruthless, but disciplined LTTE leadership had at its disposal a vast, multi-billion dollar cache that was used to buy combat weapons of the highest grade. Let’s not kid ourselves, the Tamils decided at some point, to go along with the LTTE, and were ready for a barbaric war against unwilling Tamils and the Sinhalese. It was a strange turn of events and sheer circumstance and some gumption of the Lankan political leadership that drove the LTTE to its hideouts in 2009. The bombardment that was carried out by the Lankan forces, sometimes using Eat European fighters, was no more relentless than the barbaric and ceaseless attacks launched by the LTTE against Lankan people and the military.
        At the end the Sinhalese, armed with fabulous historical texts like the Mahavamsa, and its king Dutu Gemunu, to give encouragement to the village kids in the military, as well as some astute planning by its military leaders, demolished the LTTE. What fell and died in the lagoons of the North East was not just a clique of fanatic Tamil Tigers, but also the ideology of a power elite from Europe and elsewhere. Some Indian friends of mine saw in it, the inevitable forces of the Vedic Aryans, through their much blighted Sinhalese progeny, vanquishing the Dravidian Tamils.

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    Sinhalese is not just nationality or ethnicity.It is a civilization It was started around one or more millions years ago. it spread entire south part of India,south Indian sea area Including all Islands & Archipelagos like Maldives. Inhabitants were Australoid. But around seven thousand years ago colored Caucasoid called Darvadians arrived from south west part of Iran and started Expansionism. They were more advanced humans compared to local population. Had iron tools for cultivation & killings. with that technology They expended entire south part of India but islands were escaped as they were not mariners but very good farmers. Fortunately Sea started rising and heavy sea barrier created.Lanka separated from Indian subcontinent. When Marine capabilities developed They started exploiting Lanka & the other Islands as well. But lankens were equal to the task.fought back, killed all of them.Then aggressor started another tactics sending their people as merchant with gang of soldiers. Sinhalese defeated that too and found out that Gang of soldiers are carriers of deadly decease like Vasoori & cholera. Then as precautionary measures for both danger. Incoming travellars restricted. Only the merchants with small number of servants allowed. But time to time South Indians Kingdoms occupied our land to facilitate their merchants who were doing trading buying & selling in East Indies & Malayan Peninsular At that times as per historical records outbreak of pandemic like Vasoori & cholora occurred. Thousands of occupied soldiers as well as locals killed. As such Sinhalisation of Tamils & localisation of Tamils in North & east is a Fabricated lies in order to defame peoples who fought for their mother land to save Sinhalese civilization.As such I must say until arrival of Our European masters with technology of vaccinations against Vasoori & Cholora decease Local never accepted south Indian migration here except for one occasion under the promised of Gujarati mariners who brought base borne dalites + Afgan descendants Muslims refugees & their south Indian relatives.

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      Ranjith(SPRRW) the failed sorcerer
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      “Sinhalese is not just nationality or ethnicity.It is a civilization”

      What is Sinhalese Nationality?
      What is Sinhalese Ethnicity?
      What is Sinhalese civilisation?
      Please define and explain.

      If you haven’t got a clue please ignore my questions as usual.

      “It was started around one or more millions years ago. it spread entire south part of India,south Indian sea area Including all Islands & Archipelagos like Maldives.”

      Where exactly did it start?
      Could you cite any Archaeological and Anthropological evidence to support your sweeping claim or lies.

      If you haven’t got a clue please ignore my questions as usual.

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        ha ha……………………………………………………………………………………………………….ha…………………s I just start with few comments. I never failed to reply anybody who disputed my comments in this forum. as such your saying is totally incorrect. Yes sinhalese was a civilization. We were believers of man powers and man abilities. Not like you Hindu gods worshipers and Almighty God concept of Abraham religions. You Tamils think & believe you people made all living being live in south part of India, you Tamils taught everything for them & they were your slaves . As far as people of Sinhalese civilization live here in Sinhalay is concern Nationality is Sinhalese, Ethnicity may vary. Main components is descendant of Yakka tribes. I am from sub yakka clan called Yak Dehige clan. Second lot is Deva clan, Third one is Naga clan. Fourth one is Raksha clan. There may be lots of sub clans. As per Historical records there are about 720 sub divisions recorded like in Papua new Genea as 900 odds languages evolved within just tiny population. Altogether we can say it is Sinhala or Sive hela civilization. Main Language was ELU collection of all the languages evolved just like papua New Genia. Our civilization main concern was farming for feeding themselves with very nutritional foods for sickness free long life for all members.Farming , hunting ( land areas as well as sea) supplied required nutritional foods for trouble free lives for them. Their habitat at first were nature created ones like caves. latter start building houses with clay as well as brunt clay made in various safes. Water management was their main concern as wet zone totally reserved for animals & essential fruits growing. As paddy cultivation mainly in dry zone. water management was their main concern. Every place located by Europeans contractors to build reservoir in new Mahavaly river scheme found ruins of old reservoirs & canal systems.

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      For all this civilisation, you guys did not even know how to make intercourse with human women and produce babies.

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      Anatomically modern humans are from about 200,000 years ago. (Some disagreements about the dating of modern human are there among scientists – but nobody talks of millions of years ago).
      Humans gained speech capability about 60 thousand years ago.

      If you understood the above two sentences, then you will understand that nobody was speaking any languages prior to humans getting the ability to speak. Language is a very complex thing. First thing is one must be able to make sounds, then arrange the sounds into words, then words into sentences, then one must have the ability to process what is said and heard. Imagine all the processes that must take place and also at the required sequences and what it takes to speak and listen and understand. Capabilities for all the above and more have to be present before one can claim the existence of language.

      So please keep to logical arguments. Also, Sinhalese are just a tiny population. So no big achievements in the front of having huge civilizations covering all of whatever areas you are claiming. When it comes to Maldivians – recent linguistic research show that the Maldivian language is not an offshoot of Sinhala, as believed earlier, but a sister language of Sinhala, which developed independently from the same root prakrit.

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    Latha!

    I knew the last king of Kandy was of Telugu Origin and also was from Tamil Nadu and the British imprisoned him in Tamil Nadu Prisons. Telugu and Andhra Pradesh was a part of Tamil Nadu and the people were Tamils speaking Tamil Language.

    That is how Tamil Language came to be the Court Language of the Kandyan Kingdom. There are so many Bitter Truths like this in the History of Sri Lanka and anybody talking such Truths are called Terrorists or LTTE sympathizers by the Telugu Sinhalese.

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      You are right!

      Most of the early Sinhalese including the Buddhist monks of the Maha Sangha and the Upcountry Kandyan Sinhala Buddhist Aristocrats were all originally Telugu.

      The Kandyan Sinhala Buddhist Aristocrats and the Kandyan Sinhala Buddhist monks of the Maha Sangha (Asgiri and Malwathu) had to overlook every Sinhalaya in the country and imported a South Indian Telugu prince from the Nayaka (or Vaduga) dynasty that was ruling Tamil Nadu with Madurai as their capital from 1529 to 1736 to sit on the Kandiyan throne because they wanted a pure (unmixed) Telugu prince to rule the Kandyan Kingdom.

      The last four kings of Kandy were from the Nayaka (or Vaduga) dynasty brought to Sri Lanka from Madurai (Tamil Nadu). Most of the Upcountry Sinhalese Buddhists are originally Telugu and most of the low country Sinhalese Buddhists & Catholics are from Kerala and Tamil Nadu.

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        La La

        When you challenge the bigoted ignorants with facts they tend not to visit this site. Latha is no different to others of similar nature.

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    I have only asked why the Tamils cant approach the ICJ to seek remedy. But the most of the answers are “Hohathe janne? Malle Pol”- Similarly in Tamil “Vaddukkoddaku Vali ethu- thuttukku rendu Kottai Paku” Meaning ‘which is the way to Vaddukkoddai and the answer is ‘Two arecunuts fora Cent’.

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    There was no Sinhalese until the 8th century AD. Vijaya was not a Sinhalese. He did not speak in Sinhalese to Queen Kuveni. If he was a Sinhalese and came from Bengal, there should be Sinhalese people speaking people in Bengal. The Buddhist Bhikkus from Andra wanted to give Naga and Buddhists living in the country a new identity. So they invented the Sinhalese language borrowing from Hela, Pali, Sanskrit and Tamil. Twenty-five per cent of words in Sinhala are of Tamil origin.

    The coastal Sinhalese are descendants of south Indians ( both Tamil Nadu and Kerala) who came to Sri Lanka over several hundred years ago ( more than 300 -500 years). The word Karawe( Karave, Karava) comes from the Tamil & Malayali word’ ‘ Kraiyar’ meaning ‘ Coastal people’ Some were fishermen but others were soldiers who were brought in by the Sri Lankan Kings ( Kotte) to expand their armies. These people have a ‘ Pata Bendigo’ name- Pattaya Benda- Stripes given to the foot soldiers similar to the Portuguese ‘ Lascorine guards’ in the Kandyan army. Others were carpenters and weavers. ( Durawe and Salagama).

    Pittu, Appa and Indi Appa – traditional food in the south-west are typical Kerala food. So are the customs such as Huniyam( curse ), Shastra( clairvoyance) known ans Malayali gurukam and devil dancing. The face masks( wes – muhunu) are very similar to the face masks and costumes are worn in Kerala. Hence the popular Sinhala saying ” do not bring even a baby kitten with un-opened eyes from south of the Bentota river”.

    Most of the Tamils who settled around Negombo became Sinhala Catholics with Catholic ( Latin) names)- but most can still speak fluent Tamil. The high caste ( wealthy) people were appointed as ‘ Mudliyars’ – Tamil for a’ higher’ person by the British. ( Ref- ‘ from Nobody’s to Somebody’s by Prof. Kumar Jayawardena. )

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      Around 35% and not 25% of the Sinhalese vocabulary is based from Tamil . However Sinhalese grammar , lexicon, syntax and even its alphabets are all purely based on Tamil and not on Sankkrit or Pali. Sinhalese basically has a very strong Dravidian/Tamil foundation on which an Indo Aryan ( Pali/Sanskrit ) super structure has been built. Now of course Sinhalese, Malayalam , Kannada and Telugu vocabulary is being deliberately Sanskritised , as these people all suffer from some sort of complex and want to prove a point that their languages were not derived from old Tamil. Many of their nationalists like the Sinhalese nationalists and the South Indian Dravidian immigrant Sri Lankan Muslims are going about deliberately distorting history and editing Wikipedia , to reflect their distorted forms of history. Once Wikipedia stated that the Sinhalese are largely of South Indian descent, there was hardly any Arab amongst the Sri Lankan Muslims and it is increasingly obvious that they are descended from Tamil converts to Islam and about the correct history of the Malayalam language , as to how until the 1820s the local Tamil dialect Malyalama was the language of Kerala. Now all these have been deleted and edited by zealots wanting their own version of history. Hela or old Sinhalese is a mixture of the local Tamil dialect Elu and Prakrit and like Elu was very close to its Tamil mother in pronunciation than modern Sinhalese .

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      Thank you Thanga. Never heard of Prof Kumari Jayawardena. So I searched and found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28gsmxo9NT4
      Interesting to listen

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    From one colonial master to another (with the latest being Sinhalese), Tamil elitist leaders haven’t changed. It is absurd to believe that those positioned with in and whose interests lie in safeguarding the systems of oppression will win rights for those oppressed. They are disconnected to the people they claim to represent. They will do anything to be accepted by their colonial masters – dressing, acting, thinking, and even becoming like one.

    What is funny is that some still think ‘moderating’ Tamil demands and changing the way Tamil people express their demands will win confidence of Sinhalese and will be granted. We are constantly lectured on how not to provoke those in power so not to play into their hands and spoil whatever little that they may give, There is no need for Tamil people to compromise on their demands as the outcome won’t be any different.

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    K.anaga

    “Prior to the capture of Ceylon by the British, North and East were not merged with rest of Ceylon.”

    I will rephrase that for you.Prior to the capture of Ceylon by the british,the jaffna kingdom was not merged with the rest of ceylon.The jaffna kingdom consisted of the current northern province and a small part of the current eastern province and a small part of current puttalam where the pearl industry controlled by the jaffna kings.Most of the east was part of the kandyan kingdom.The kandyan kingdom and the jaffna kingdom were allies against the kotte kingdom.

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      The upcountry kandyan kingdom and the Jaffna kingdom were allies against the low country Kotte Kingdom. King Senarat, the Buddhist King of Kandy who married Dona Catherina even gave his two sons Kumarasingha and Vijayapala in marriage to the daughters of the Hindu King of Jaffna thereby establishing a strong relationship between the two kingdoms.

      The upcountry Kandyan Sinhala royalty always thought it is better to marry from Tamil royalty than from the low country Sinhala kingdom. This thinking was not confined to the royalty but was common to almost all the high caste groups. Even until recently, such thinking existed in spite of Sinhala vs Tamil national clashes.

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        Tamils always try to attach themselves to the Sinhalese in some way to legitimize their presence here – if it is not through spurious claims about the Sinhala language, then its through some baseless claims about connections to the Sinhala royalty.

        First of all, what you call “Jaffna kingdom” was not a proper legitimate kingdom. Jaffna “kingdom” was a Pandyan occupation that started in the late 13th century, which later morphed into a semi-independent settlement, with the fall of the Pandyans in the mid 14th century.

        Nobody ever considered Aryachakravartis as royalty, least of all the Sinhalese. They were more or less warlords of dubious ancestry. What is known with certainty is that the first Aryachakravarti was a general of the Pandyan king Maaravarman Kulasekaran. Somewhere in the late 13th century, most probably after the Pandyans defeated the Cholas and put a definitive end to them in 1278, Kulasekaran sent Aryachakravarti to raid Sri Lanka, and raid he did, and robbed the Tooth relic and went back to Tamilnadu.

        The only legitimate Tamil royalty were the Pandyans, Cheras, Cholas and later Pallavas. Pandyans and Pallavas were not really Tamil in ancestry, but considered Tamil with time (Pandyans being Pandus and Pallavas being of Telugu origin). Its an insult to the ancient Tamil kings to try to squeeze in these Aryachakravartis together with them. I just wonder what the Kulasekaran would say to Aryachakravarti who was just his general being given an equal royal status as him… The supposed marriage between Senarath’s sons and Jaffna ruler’s daughters happened some time after the fall of the Jaffna “kingdom” (1620), in Tanjore, where the women had sought refuge. This supposed marriage is not mentioned in any of the Sinhalese or Tamil documents, but in one of the Portuguese narratives by Queroz or Ribeiro.

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          punchi

          “First of all, what you call “Jaffna kingdom” was not a proper legitimate kingdom. Jaffna “kingdom” was a Pandyan occupation that started in the late 13th century, which later morphed into a semi-independent settlement, with the fall of the Pandyans in the mid 14th century.”

          Why don’t you dispute that with the scholars and historians who have written and written about the jaffna kingdom without wasting our time debating well documented historical facts with you.I value my time.please google “jaffna kingdom” and you will get enough articles and knowledge on it,you idiot.

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    Pathetic to see above comments form various commentators, racist to the core. How can Sri Lanka and Sri Lankan progress when the mindset of the commentators, presumably living in Sri Lanka, are putrid. What is happening or have happened in Sri Lanka is nothing new. All over the world has a history where humans have erred. Have we not learnt any lessons? Fact, both Sinhalese and Tamils due to lack of non visionary leadership and bad politics have made the country to where it is now. Recent events, dissolving of parliament is a case in point. People of Sri Lanka must ask the hard question as to whom they elect to represent and punish them if they are poorly or shabbily represented. It is up to every single being in Sri Lanka to wake up and clean up.

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    punchi

    “Even the last king Sri Vikrama Rajasinghe was a good king, presented as a bad wicked king by the covert actions of the British “

    so good that he got a mother to pound the heads of her ten children.Thank god he was not a tamil,but whose ancestors were telugu nayakkar tax collectors for the vijayanagar Empire of andra pradesh,and who were stationed in tamilnadu.

    Bandara nayakkar -ring a bell?Andra pradesh telugu revenue collectors for vijaya nagar empire.,stationed all over their empire.Nayakkar is a title,not name.

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