27 May, 2018

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Kim Jong Un’s Game-Plan Is Pretty Clear

By Kumar David

Prof. Kumar David

East Asia’s strategic landscape is undergoing sea-change; Kim Jong Un’s game-plan is pretty clear

A fortnight ago the gathered masses hollered “Nobel! Nobel!” at a Trump rally loud enough to be heard in Oslo. The thought then crossed my mind that it would be like awarding a Nobel Peace Prize to a bacterium for the invention of antibiotics. A common view is that Trump’s braggadocio intimidated North Korea with threats of obliteration even though (if) it could have taken two or three US cities down with it. The Nobel Committee, red faced by Aung San Suki’s disgraceful complicity in genocide, is most unlikely to be stampeded into making an ass of itself again by embracing the most controversial big-power leader of the day, and one despised by more than half his compatriots. This columnist has to confess to joy at the time of the award to Suki; in hindsight utterly premature.

Let’s examine, albeit speculatively, the current state of play, but first let me say sorry if you find the caption “landscape undergoing sea-change” oxymoronic. Kim’s game-plan is pitched at three levels of depth and complexity; the wily roly-poly has already achieved 1(a). The step by step design I attribute to Kim is: 

1. (a) Defuse all possibility of a US first-strike and secure the import of fuels and consumer goods. (b) Fish for capital injection, albeit on a limited scale, from the South and China to support a mini-Deng Xio Ping (mini-DXP) initiatives.

2. Campaign for the lifting of sanctions in exchange for “complete denuclearisation; a complete nuclear free Korean Peninsula” to which Kim and Moon Jae-in committed in the Panmunjom Declaration of 27 April 2018. 

3. Secure reunification of the Peninsula on a formula that will guarantee the regime, its principal functionaries and the military, safety for say 50 years – One Country Two Systems but very different from Hong Kong-China or East-West Germany. 

Part (a) of objective 1, making a US first-strike impossible, has been achieved. Whatever the outcome of the Kim-Trump talks, so long as the Kim-Moon dialog is in progress, US military action is out of the question. Not even a surreal oddity like Trump can press the button. The talks involve a raft of issues – return of prisoners, lowering military tension, joint liaison bodies, meetings at “all levels; central and local governments, parliaments, political parties and civil organisations” etc. This will drag on beyond Trumps term of office. Fire and fury has been stamped out.

[All quotations are from the Panmunjom Declaration widely available on the web].

Part (b) in item 1 of Kim’s game-plan is not as simple as (a). He knows that formal lifting of Security Council sanctions is a complex grind, but he hopes to play side-games with China, the South and Russia in the meantime. They will indulge in trade because he has mentioned denuclearisation and the latter two will gladly stabilise an anti-American regime in the region. 1(b) starts with easing restrictions on fuel, machinery and consumer goods imports, short of sanctions busting. It is not still clear how this will roll but the South will turn a blind eye to consumer goods “smuggling” in addition to food and medicines already permitted. China never cut oil flow and will now be more brazen. All this will have near universal third-world support. 

A new turn in the economy

Something not so well known outside the Peninsula is that Kim has kicked off on a mini-DXP economic strategy. Small private trade is prospering and minor capitalists are encouraged. Some state enterprises are no longer rigidly controlled and allowed a degree of management independence. There are many reports that shelves are well stocked in Pyongyang. The capital is another world from the rest of the country but it is unlikely that there is starvation or extreme poverty any longer. A reliable number is the South’s Bank of Korea (BoK) estimate that in 2016 the North’s GDP grew at 3.9% and probably higher in 2017. The economy collapsed after the Soviet Union went bust; GDP halved from 1990 and 1999. There was a see-saw till 2015, but sustained growth seems to have resumed. 

“North Korea’s economy grew at its fastest pace in 17 years in 2016, South Korea’s central bank said on Friday, despite the isolated country facing international sanctions aimed at curbing its defiant pursuit of nuclear weapons” said a Reuters’ report of 21 June, 2017 echoed in a CNBC report of 20 July quoting the same BoK source – see graph. But don’t be fooled by near 4% growth from an abysmally low base. It will need double digit growth for a decade to pull the country out of the mire.

Kim, having for now tethered the American hunter-killer, needs a breathing space to build the economy. The guarantee of survival is a nuclear deterrent and delivery capability. For that, parleying with the South must be sustained. In the past the North has been adept at making promises that it does not keep. Kim knows he must retain his nuclear capabilities, or else he will be Gadhafied, Saddam Husseined or screwed like Iran; he is a dictator, not a goof. 

Complete denuclearisation, in Kim’s parlance accepted by Moon for inclusion in the Declaration, is governed by the adjective “Complete”. What is Complete? Is it when US troops in Korean and their nuclear umbrella is gone? Also recall that US Okinawa bases (seven in the island chain) were used to attack Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia and Iraq. Arguably Okinawa is a nuclear threat! This implies that the negotiating gap between 1(b) and 2 will be unending. Kim is aware and probably bargaining on it being prolonged while he hangs on to his atomic toys and enjoys reduced import restrictions short of formal sanctions lifting. Negotiations with Trump are not important except to buy time and keep the wolf at bay; that’s my take. 

Forerunners to reunification

Before reunification the North’s economy must be recapitalised and vitalised. Literacy is high and the work-force well-trained, the country is endowed with natural resources; investment is taking place in infrastructure. However the hybrid currency system – separate domestic and foreign monies – will have to go. The ration-coupon system which functions side by side with money wages will have to be replaced by a wage system throughout the economy. Land will have to open to peasant owners so that agricultural output can boom. China and Vietnam are trail blazers and can serve as exemplars.

With reunification the North will enter the world trading system and WTO and join international bodies. Doing this as an extension of the already integrated South will ease flow. Crucially the relationship of the economically dominant central state in the North to a free-wheeling capitalist system in the South will be a Gordian knot to unravel. For this reason the Korean One Country Two Systems recipe will be like Hong Kong and China, not German reunification, but with elephant and tail inverted. I imagine economic integration will be a bigger headache than political horse trading. Kim’s nuclear chips give him goodies to bring to the latter bargaining table.

Whither the United States?

We are passing through a defining moment not only in US-China relations but in US-East Asia affairs because the big picture is not only about trade, it’s about strategic positioning for the remainder of this millennium; it’s about the future. Thomas Friedman says in the New York Times of 1 May that in one corner stand Trump and his hardliners who want to engage in the struggle before it’s too late and China gets too big. And he thinks Xi Jinping and the Party want the fight now because it’s already too late, China is already too big. 

Trade threats are everyday fallout; a high-level US trade delegation was in Beijing last week. One can’t paint a blow-by-blow picture of winners and losers, but the big picture so far is ‘advantage-China’. China exports four times as much to the US as it imports, seemingly it has more to lose, but its economy is younger and more robust and people who remember recent hardship are resilient and better able to ride through rough times. With no elections and with a one-party state China is located on different plane from the US. Long term, China can’t lose.

As a new détente emerges in the Far East (the two Koreas, China and Japan) the US becomes somewhat redundant; the cards are stacked against it. My instinct says time is not on its side. This is a reading of the tealeaves, not an expression of choice, endorsement of one-party power or affidavit in support of Xi Jinping absolutism. My travels in China often bring me upfront against an overbearing state. You can’t buy a train or museum ticket without proof of identity, huge posters supporting the government are ubiquitous, the Internet is politically filtered and bloggers beware. It’s intrusive.

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    There is already prediction that India will take over China within 15-20 years, not 50-60 years. The advantage of India is its Western style based economic structure. Government practically does not accept the welfare burden. That is even better to economy (on capital side though may not be labor side). More the India grows then more China will have to work with America. The reason is, America is not the China’s enemy; it is India and Japan, Vietnam, Philippine, Malaysia….. Korea merger makes China’s political influence to hit the bottom in the West. When West told China that they are about to Bomb Libya, China withdrew 45,000 workers on cargo ships. China still has no world based political muscle. India can move many things politically, but that is not possible to China, even with veto.

    There is still in Tamil web site that I wrote that in Kim time Korea’s will be merged. Jim is western educated person. He likes luxury life. He like name –i.e. smart- handsome, generous…….. So his actions were protection based, mainly weeding big guys, instead of oppressing small ones. I wrote like that based mainly with one thing. His first removal was his uncle and it was a big ceremony, to teach lesson for others. Jang Sung-taek was Russian educated, unlike Kim, real hard core power wielding communist. He guided Kim Un Il to highly oppressive path, further he was interfering into Kim’s job, ruling North Korea. Kim got scared of him. This made Kim to go a wide cleaning operation. South Korea is comfortable in dealing with Kim. They understand his excessively sensitiveness manners and immature political tactics. They are careful not to injure his feeling or let him suspecting of them playing big political game using his inexperience. South Koreans are team, he is alone. His only reliable partner seems to be his sister. His maneuverings are trust based, instead intellective.

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      “There is already prediction that India will take over China within 15-20 years, not 50-60 years.”
      Sweet dreams, Mallung

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        SJ

        “Sweet dreams, Mallung”

        Alternatively you would love it if China took over India and ruled Sri Lanka.

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        SJ,

        There are guys who only bet their money on horses always lose. It need not to be that they are attached to outdated theories, but miss the bus to rejuvenate their thinking.

        If you keep thinking my sweet dreams are going to be only nightmare for you, all what you can do is avoiding reading revised forecasts.

        Let me tell you my experience. In 1970 another guy,who had read a UN estimate, told that China would be taking over America in 50 years. For me, that time, China Communism was more hateable
        word than Indian & American Imperialism for you now. So that was one of the most sour thing I ever heard in my life. I told him, what the heck he was talking as America had landed in moon & they were keep going much faster than anybody else.

        (India is the fastest growing big economy in 2017 and going to be like that for more years, around at 7.8%. China is cooling down to 4.9% and will there for some time. China’s population is aging faster than Indian. In few years India will be largest country in the world. Its labour quality is improving so it will stay above all others in total production. It is said the the Industries india footed like Computers, software, electronic, steel, Textiles, Universities are bound to face steady growth.)

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          Mallung
          This, within fair limits, is still a free country, and I have no problem with your loves and hates.

          But it will do one good to be in touch with reality.

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            This, within fair limits, is still a free country, and I have no problem with your loves and hates.

            But it will do one good to be in touch with reality.

            You mean because it is still a free country things are taking long not to be good? Do you say all teaching are being held within their boundaries? Irreverent of the country
            isn’t anybody can be good on their own if that wish to be ?

            May be the Old dog is not good on learning the tricks!

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              Mallung
              Postmosernists say ‘the author is dead’ and you can go on interpreting anything any way you choose.
              As I said earlier, “This, within fair limits, is still a free country”.

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      Dr K: thanks, Everyone knows that the Trump’s US makes nuclear disarmament deals and then, breaks them – as with Iran!
      China will have to garuntee this one as the EU did Iranian deal!
      So yes, Kim is just buying time – good one Kumar!

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    South Koreans are doing well on their part of cooperating with him. Kim’s main peace negotiation is with South Korea, not with America. His dealing with America is about nuclear weapons and UN sanctions. One has to understand that even Russia or China will not like Kim giving up so easily. That will make them look weak and losers. The possibility is South Korea would be consulting him of how to negotiate with America & what to expect from Trump. That is how they would be ensuring the outcome, instead he face surprises and break up in the middle.
    My assessment is Trump will go easy with Kim, unlike the popular feeling of is no deal would be reached. Kim’s and Trump’s meeting is only formal trust building. In that meeting, if Kim maintains etiquettes Trump cannot expect much beyond that. The actual cooling process has to be worked by experts and assistances. Trump may accommodate Kim mainly because Trump too likes the names “He did it”. Internal details not known, but external elements indicate the meeting should be going well. Gadhafi, Sadam’s cases are not comparable. They are experienced, pure tyrants. America will not put Kim’s respectability with them or even with Assad.
    Kong Hong and Germany are not comparable here. This is going to be a negotiated merger. Hong Kong case is completely different. China cannot achieve Hong Kong political freedom with in another 30 – 40 years. So the merging question is not coming. Germany was not a negotiated merger. It was the result of Soviet Union’s weakness. It was just a bust out by the felled wall. When South starts to open its borders there is going to be overwhelming influx of labor looking for job illegally. Most of the boarder is unprotected jungles, mountains and rivers. Controlling will not be easy.

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    Kumar David

    Another Trump hating leftwing pseudo liberal as Nassim Talebe so eloquently describer’s
    “Intellectual-Yet-Idiot”
    If Trump was to get rid of all nuclear weapons from the world tomorrow you will be shouting Trump is starting a conventional war and you will volunteer to lick some uranium to prove Nuke are good Trump is destroying the Nukes.
    Kumar David analyze the facts world war has not started. Blacks and Hispanic’s unemployment in US at record low. Trump is still the president. Iran nuke deal gone in spite of John Kerry going around begging and licking Iranian’s unmentionable to keep it going Studies are happy, Kim Jong meeting Trump in Singapore, China has not stopped trade with US in retaliation, Macron and his old lady made a state visit to US after his tantrums, Angela is in deep trouble with migrants and so is Sweden Switzerland Belgium Holland UK and rest of the rich EU union countries. Majority of ordinary working people in UK Voted to leave the EU to have a say in their own country’s affairs.

    Obama still think he is still relevant and going around the world bad mouthing Trump while laughing and making money preaching to the converted left wing ideologue wingers at the same time nicely raking in bundles of cash hobnobbing with his mega rich and famous white billionaire buddies likes of Branson’s private islands. Senile Hillary still looking for excuses for loosing the election in spite of getting all the help possible from FBI, CIA, DOJ, Obama administration and Obama and his wife, left wing media , Hollywood hypocrites, Senile old John Maccain, Angela Merkel, Cameron and anti trump EU leaders and the republican Party to name a few.
    So you are in some good company.

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    Dear Professor, anyone can say things like you have sais here with hindsight. Unfortunately, you or anyone else could not predict what was going to happen a few months back, when things look really bad.

    You are just writing all this stuff to explain what happened. Can you at least predict what is going to happen now? I don’t think so. What I think is that your article is as good as a horoscope reading of one of our great astrologers.

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    The two are giving each other strong lengthy ropes. It is simply a question of who blinks first.
    .
    Prof Kumar David: It is not Aung San Suki but Aung San Suu Kyi.
    About travel experience in China you end with “…….You can’t buy a train or museum ticket without proof of identity…….”. You have found a song for “It ain’t over till the fat lady sings”.

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    Give PEACE a chance whatever the game plan. It is a miracle that North Korea is even ready to come to the table. Kumar David’s academic analysis will not determine what the future holds for the Korean peninsula. It is a long road with many pitfalls and obstacles, and fresh thinking and strategies by all stakeholders will determine the final outcome in years to come. At least the journey has begun to reach that goal so that future generations can live in peace.

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    As for reunion, I remember that a far back as the 1970s, the theme of North Korean governments was reuniting the motherland.
    There was always one obstacle: US will do anything to prolong its military presence.
    But the regime change in South Korea made a big difference after a succession of anti-reunion rulers.

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    Crazy writer dreaming to compare china with indis.. caste system will desotry India soon….you can see 200 dalith will make a big change in India soon.

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    North Korea can not be bullied easily with Nuke Bombs well tucked up their sleeves.
    trump will have to say yes… yes… mister………………………..
    Kim has been verywell briefed by China & who knows who else at the Dalian meeting just last week or before.
    Kim armed with the Bomb will sit at the table……….

    To ease Donald’s agony he is dismantling Nuke launching site.
    Winners will be China.
    North & South will have cordial relationaship. For it to prolong Uncle Sam will have to pack up from the South.
    Finally, japan touts US, they will get isolated from East Asia and will only have taiwan.

    This time Uncle Sam has het her waterloo…. and Japan is nervous.

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    Trump’s popularity goes down day by day within USA because of his involvement in the election fraud with Russia, anti women campaign, payments for unlawful sex etc. China is concerned with its economic stability and its expansion of power. It is an opportunity for North Korea to play its usual game plan with the US.

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    Nukes were touted as ‘weapons of peace’ following Japanese surrender. Margret Thatcher included this in her sermons. Did she foresee peace in Korea BECAUSE of nukes?

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      K.Pillai

      The stupid human kind has learnt to make bombs.
      It cannot unlearn it in the future.

      A quote from a genius:
      “I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
      -Albert Einstein
      The premise is that WW3 will collapse society back to the stone age.

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    The question here is what does China really want? China doesn’t want a capitalist, successful Korea
    with US ties, next to it, so it wants to keep a buffer country in North Korea. Dictators come handy for this. The result is that the people of North Korea have to sacrifice their own interests while China and the US pursue their own interests,

    It is a lesson for Sri Lanka as well, as China and India vie for more influence in the country.

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      Agnos

      What is SJ’s view in this respect?
      He thinks China is doing well compared to India.
      He loves to see the day China ruling India and Sri Lanka.
      He also thinks North Korea is fighting an anti colonial war against imperialistic countries on behalf of third world.
      ….
      ….

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        NV,

        I know SJ is a Marxist with pro-Chinese views, but he has said he doesn’t like the current crony-Capitalist version of China. The freedoms that people enjoy in Democratic societies is something that needs to be cherished and protected.

        The burden of coming up with the right economic system while preserving the freedoms in a democratic society is something that falls on all of us. There is often a tendency in Democratic societies to mistake randomness for causation in people’s ‘successes.’ That is something society ought to address. Western societies need to re-evaluate and rethink their foundational values. I recently gave a speech to American civil servants on this issue.

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          Agnos

          “I know SJ is a Marxist with pro-Chinese views, but he has said he doesn’t like the current crony-Capitalist version of China.”

          Whatever shade shape China now portrays itself, SJ wouldn’t mind China ruling the entire world.

          Why don’t you publish your speech to American civil servants in CT.
          Until we collectively decide what we want from this world and what we are going to give/leave it to the world the conflict will exist in one form or another. The question is how do we ration out greed.

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pompeo-signals-trump-seeking-long-term-agreement-with-north-koreas-kim-in-summit/ar-AAxcAhk?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=UP97DHP
    This is what late Sunday morning Fox’s report.

    The distance between both parties are a lot far apart to predict anything. But changes are, from Pompeo’s talk, a new bridge can be installed to gap it, a lot shorter than “Bridge of No Return”. In fact, that is what American stand is. If North wants peace is only one way path and no Return. They say gestures can not have value in this time. A final commitment.

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    The balance of Economy of North -East Asian economy is bigger than USA total GDP? Look at China GDP US$ 13 Trillion Japan GDP U$ $ 5 Trillion and South Korean world in 12 ranking world of GDP> Undoudeatly totally these three countries exceed USA ‘s GDP?

    In facts reveled Development of Economies of three nation in the first time in Modern history has been surpassed that USA monopoly of world giant Economy by that three countries within last 40 years>

    North Korea having own self-reliance of Juchai policy which played vital role under that USA sanctions to keep certain level of developing Economy also remarkable point in Eastern Asia.
    Having ample of natural resources in North Korea been able for New Industrial ventures in NR soil?
    Hence rear metal large depositions of NR having advantage for future energy of Solar industries.
    Its seems be that NR national economy can pulled country foreign currency needed to capital investment, by new industrialization in near future in Eastern Asian Economy?
    NR is sovereignty nation survival last 70 years.
    USA has to be fixed NR, which right enjoy Global economy. The Global politics of cannot move by isolated sovereignty nations regardless their different social system by US hegemonies politics of dominations are out dated in 21st century?

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    A very rational analysis though rather slightly optimistic. Let us hope for the best. Bensen

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    Native Vedda comment
    Korean peninsular was demarcated immediate after end of second world war in 1951.Quesation of war and peace Korean have to discussed in different political environment ,north Asian context .
    Korean was Japanese colonial since 1910 to 1945.End of second world -war liberation of father land by Korean were fighting under the leadership of Kim Ill Sun by Workers Party; they who liberated North, but due to the USA an intervention South has turn into USA colony. Until now 300,00 USA military forces remain in South Korean.
    Model of South capitalism much industrial base. Economically S-Korean has developed industrialization and masses scale production of Globe value chain of work for their national development .
    That is new Globalization has change shape of Korean Economy and growth since 1990 by New policy changes.
    What a development means getting more value added from a Korean -South productive factors.
    Korean-S… did improvements in labor skill and technological capabilities as well as fixing domestic by marker failure has to be redressed by knitting social cohesion a consensus remain in favor of economic progress in South.
    What ever political system in North of Juicha model, that which she has to pass the development path of economic which has been passes by South Korean ? Or no any other way North cannot skipped path of development of Economy?
    Indeed change of national economy of North as a whole more and better jobs ,better living conditions, wanted superior training ,infarstrure are essentials? Look at year 2000 North Korea ‘s Kaesong Industrial region is one example came to failure due North South dialogue ended with uncompromised influences by of USA and Japan.
    The current global capitalism by case study formulating analytic framework to be realized how and why Globalization ‘s impact on New Industrialization shifted ,it is time to turn to policy implication and re-think industrialization policy by North Korea.

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      N Wimaladasa

      In essence what you are saying is your brethren the Leader of the LTTE was right in fighting the colonizers of North East and you would not mind if my people fought against the all descendants of Kallathonies on our ancestral land?

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    You have copied from so many sources. it is nice if you had disclosed.

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    Comment on Palathi ….
    Unfortuanly many of Sri Lankan class of official elites and their politicians are outdated by not that accepts declining current reality the Old Global order of political and Economy in crisis. By changes has been denied by the agent UNP of RW and their alliances.
    Certain orthodox think-tank of western -oriented UNP school of thoughts are in miscreation of which that guide by 70 years of North-Eastern Asian history. By and large a new political economy norms take roots in China, Japan South and North Koreas series changes has taken place but not into account by UNP leadership and including so many writers.
    In fact those may turn out to be flash that dollar dominated economy of after 2008 Wall Street financial collapse with USA economy hegemony; that still under unchanged by that myth of UNP leaders depend on ‘largest power’ of USA,UK and EU economy!
    Many of UNP theoretician support by so-called “Marxist” of really Trotskyist the people have been blind in North Korean issues hidden in plain sight. This is defending politics of UNP, Ranil W..’s way !
    While USA accuse, which Japan, China and South Korea manipulated “Trade and Currency” to growth Rich countries. But USA having army of 50,000 troops which money provided by tax payers people and govt . of Japan; over one hundred bases in through-out in Japan including Okinawa.
    Needless to say USA has to accepts facts the declined economy domination since 2008 in Western hegemonies, which had been created new world economic crisis since last 10 years from 2008.
    The due to the lack of knowledge poor vision of leadership of UNP- RW and MS assume that political parties and many politicians are bias on that Western domination kept Economy hegemony for ever.
    Meanwhile North Korea as a sovereignty nation played vital role safeguard national sovereignty in North Asia which did not recognized by UNP and their alliances.

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    I doubt if the US will relinquish dominance. The floating of the Petro Yuan might hit them a bit, but for now DPRK is looking for legitimacy. If Trump can guarantee that Kim gets to keep his family run repressive nation under his control and that the US will not attack them first, both sides win. You liberal elitists are too arrogant. Why the hell did Obama get a Nobel Peace Prize? FOR READING flowing prose with the use of Teleprompters? He ruined Libya and ruined Egypt. He did NOT deserve it. At least Trump, IF he succeeds will deserve it , his pussy problems not withstanding.

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    Why don’t you list reasons Obama was awarded the Peace Prize? No do not count the Iran deal that is now scuttled by the Ho-Humper white boy. That happened a lot LATER than the Peace Prize. So he got it for flowing speeches or for being non White? Did he get for potential? Like let us give the World Cup cricket award to India without them earning it, because they have the best potential to win it?

    You are being a turd when you air your arrogance like Pakiyasoththi S, Jehan P but with more cockinness of a man with his head buried in sand and the arse hanging out for all to see, for being rammed with a rod.

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      Yes Obama got awarded his peace prize, practically, within one month of his ascent to presidency. He was the one opposed in the senate authorizing war on Iraq. t was Six years before his Nobel Prize. There are not just unanswered questions, but there are unasked questions too. Time Magazine got voted Old King as the leader of the year too! Sirimavo was recommended of Peace Prize. Old King New King all competed for it.

      Some questions like that are yet to be asked also
      .

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    HAP
    Obama got it before he had much time as President. They knew that he will never get after an year or two in the job.

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