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King Ravana: MPs Propose International Investigation – A Response

By P. Soma Palan

P. Soma Palan

I refer to the news Report in the Sunday Times of 13th August 2023, under the above heading, and wish to express my views on the subject matter as follows:

1. It seems that MPs Buddhika Pathirana and others who support him are more keen and interested to ascertain the truth of King Ravana’s ethnicity by bringing a Motion in Parliament to establish an International Investigation consisting of foreign experts.

2. Whereas, when it comes to more urgent and serious a matter to probe into charges of War Crimes and violation of International Humanitarian Laws committed at the tail end of the Civil War between the LTTE and the Sri Lankan military forces, the majority of the MPs, both Government and the Opposition, shudder at their knees and are allergic to the UNHRC Resolution to set up an International Panel of Investigators to probe the charges.

3. In the first place, whether King Ravana (more correctly Ravanan) was a Tamil or Sinhalese is a Non-Issue. The news Report states that “both Tamil and Sinhalese claim ownership to King Ravanan with their own historical and mythological versions”. The Tamils do not claim that King Ravana was Tamil Hindu King, but know he was a Tamil Hindu King. A claim can arise only if there is a substance of a dispute in the matter. The Sinhalese cannot make a claim to Ravana being a Sinhalese, because there was no race called Sinhalese at the time of Ravana and the associated story Ramayana, which is dated chronologically 12,000 B.C. by the well known Indian Researcher and scholar Nilesh Nilkantha Oak, by meticulous Astronomical and Archeological evidence. Since there was no Sinhalese Race during King Ravana’s period, the fact of King Ravanan being a Tamil Hindu King is an axiomatic truth.

4. Even the historical chronicle Mahavamsa written by the Buddhist priest Mahanama refers to the Sinhalese race was founded by one Vijaya and his 700 followers who arrived in Lanka in the 5th century B.C, which is a dubious claim. The Mahavamsa was written in Pali language in 7th century A.D, as there was no Sinhalese language.

5. King Ravana’s ancestral grandfather was King Pulasthi who ruled Lanka from the city, Pullasthinagar, which name was later changed to Polonaruwa by Sinhalese historians. Sinhalisation of place names and personal names is an ingrained habit of later Sinhalese. King Devanambiya Theesan’s name changed to Devabambiya Tissa and his father King Mootha Sivan (Elder Sivan) changed to Mutsiva, King Dushta Karmini changed to King Dutugemunu, Arahat Mahendra changed to Arahat Mahinda, King Muthusamy changed to King Sri Wickrema Rajasinghe. This is happening even in modern times- example Manal Aru in the North is called Weli Oya. S.W.R.D Bandaranaye’s ancestors’s name is Pandaram Nayakar and later modified to Bandaranaike to differentiate it from Tamil. Likewise all common names ending with Ratnams, Singhams, Sekerams, Perumals, Palans became Ratne, Singhe, Sekera, Peruma, and Pala, Alagiyawan becomes Alagiyawanna and so on.

6. King Ravanan was a devoted Shiva Baktha, and by meditation and observing extreme penance, Tapa, austerities, was blessed by Lord Shiva’s Boon and powers of the mind. That is why Ravanan is depicted with ten Heads. It is not that he had literally 10 Heads .It symbolized the great powers of the mind. He was also great scholar of the Ayurveda (science of Medicine). Ravanan held a Conference of Ayurdevic scholars and it was attended by the Indian scholar Danwanthri.

7. It is futile and superfluous that an International Investigation be established for ascertaining whether King Ravanan was a Tamil or Sinhalese, for the simple reason that Sinhalese as a race did not exist during the time of King Ravanan and the Epic Ramayana, he is connected with.

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    Wonder what is by meant by ‘international investigation’. Unless it is not costing SL anything, can’t our eminent archaeologists & historians do the investigations & save the country some money, as more than half the population is living below poverty line? I am sure if any artefacts or evidence is found, particularly, relating to Ravana’s airship, no doubt, international historians would happily get involved because that would be of historical significance relating to air travel. Up to now, it is known that only Buddha traveled by air in those ancient times.

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      Make sure and guarantee the RE-ELECTION of UNEDUCATED SCUMBAGS!!??
      NONE ELSE

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        Mahila,
        .
        without real social revolution, it is inevitable. THat is why I dont hope much holding election and seeing its outcome again. I already know the outcome. Aluthgamage, Johnsten, Wimal Buruwanse, Miriskudu jayaweera, Boralugoda Dog and all will get elected by the very same “human beasts aka our voters”.
        .
        The elected is the mirror image of the society. Who do you think the society is filled with ? Are they educated people ? Are they civilized people ? Are they law-bound people ? Are they disiplined people ?

        Answers to all above questions are ” no”. So how would you expect miracles ?

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          LM,
          The only solution possible, is find a SAVIOUR and MESSIAH, who would deliver unto them much more than Rs. 10,000, 1 Bottle of Special Coconut (Not JF GAL) Arrack and Chicken Biryani Packet for LUNCH on election day???
          Then elect a SERENE, importantly SANE, High IQ, Incorruptible Members of Parliament who have the intellect and Stamina to withstand the onslaught of the corrupt and to bring the ‘VILLAINS TO BOOK’ and meet out Justice!!!???
          If not, then reasonable conclusion is that Sri Lankans are HAPPY with the STATUS QUO!!!???
          DOOMED!!

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      Raj,
      “Up to now, it is known that only Buddha traveled by air in those ancient times.”
      Be careful, unless you don’t plan on visiting SL soon.

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        The AirLine was referred to as ‘AIR RVANA’ It is a pity the Raman, who had the powers of a god, it is said, could not prevent Sita from being kidnapped. Ravan did not kidnap her for sexual pleasure, if so he would not have bothered to imprison her and watch. It is clear that Ravana took revenge on Rama for mutilating his sister’s body when she refused the improper advance of Raman and Brother Luxman.

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          Kanapathy Varunan

          I was never good at history. Whether it is folklore or unsubstantiated history, I was enlightened by Desmond’s baila song, & all I know is that Ravana had a flying contraption. Maybe that was the equivalent to a private jet or maybe there was a fleet for commercial & military purposes but it is most inspiring, less so are the sordid details of Seeta’s involvement. Unless there is evidence about Ravana’s flying contraption, what is the big deal about what Rama, Seeta, Ravana & the rest of the gang were up to, unless a kidnapper is to be venerated as a hero?
          The famous balcony under which Romeo serenaded Juliet has been ‘restored’ in Verona. Maybe SL can also earn some tourist revenue by promoting our own love story of Rama & Seeta.

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            Any recording of history including epics are much one-sided.
            Have you considered the possibility of Sita running away from her husband (who was not kind at all to her) with Ravana’s help?
            (I do mean eloped)
            Other interpretations are possible.
            Besides, no version of Ramayana describes Ravana as a wicked person. Some praise his rule and the prosperity of his country.
            *
            The distance and terrain make it very unlikely that the Lanka of Ramayana and this island are the same.

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        old codger

        Thanks for the warning. I am aware that any mention of Buddha could be interpreted in extreme sense in this very religious Buddhist country but I am just stating that we were taught at school that Buddha visited SL 3 times, each time by air on his own steam, unlike Ravana who had some contraption. Surely, I can’t be banged up for mentioning a historic event as taught in school? Then again, we seem to have King Kakille’s court inspired justice system, so I’ll take your advise.

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          Raj,
          I was joking. You aren’t in any danger unless Sinhala Man finds your real identity.
          “Maybe SL can also earn some tourist revenue by promoting our own love story of Rama & Seeta.”
          It’s been going on for several years now. There is a “Sita Trail” aimed at gullible Indian tourists.

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            OC

            I was being sarcastic too. However, I would always be in danger of shooting off my mouth, specially after a few shots of the aged local brew. In fact, my wife is rather worried I will offend sensitive religious Buddhists in SL, as I am already quite unpopular among the Sinhala Buddhists in my area in UK.

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      raj-uk
      “Wonder what is by meant by ‘international investigation’.”

      international mens all the countries in the planet earth including anyone in antartica and the moon,especially in the south pole of the moon.

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        shankar

        Thanks for the clarification.

        Ravana must have lived at the time when the wheel was invented but we seems to have been more advanced with our own flying objects. I am sure little SL would be the envy of the international community for having such an illustrious history dating back to even before Christ, if only we could find some evidence.

        Who would have thought 10 years ago that the Indians were capable of landing on the moon beating the big boys, Russia, China & the US, & on a tiny budget too? With our heritage of air travel, & having already sent a satellite to orbit, we should also develop our long lost capabilities. After all, don’t we already have an aerospace scientist with a doctorate in mathematics as well, just being idle? Such talents & brains should not go to waste.

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          raj-UK
          “After all, don’t we already have an aerospace scientist with a doctorate in mathematics as well, just being idle? Such talents & brains should not go to waste.”

          the youngest of mahinda’s sons is a aerospace guy rohitha.Some excerpts

          [He attended S Thomas college in Mt.Lavinia, and completed his bachelor’s degree in engineering in Aeronautical Engineering. Later his Masters in Engineering in Space System Engineering from University of Southampton. He obtained a M.Phil. in Mathematical Optimization of Space Debris Mitigation and Strategy Analysis From the University of Colombo.]

  • 11
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    This will once again end in Racial Tension. Who cares if Ravana is a Tamil or a Sinhalese? There is ample documentary evidence that he was a Siva follower. This should confirm he is a Hindu. Beyond that who cares? The only other scenario I can imagine is when another Sinhala Buddhist starts calling Ravana a Hindu Sinhala, once again it would be a stupid move as there was no race named Sinhalese during that time. Can he be a Wadda King? mmmmmmm.

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      B1,
      Absolutely SPOT-ON and on the Money!!!!???
      These JOKERS and CHARLATONS who elected by Citizens bribed by the elected with Rs 5000 are only wasting the time getting paid ‘Princely’ sums as Remuneration, Transport/vehicles and allowances to the legislature are wasting their time and our time on matters irrelevant to the CURRENT EXISTENTIAL CIRCUMSTANCES!!!???
      Parliament sessions, leave alone other costs amounts to Rs 1 million per day the least!!!! Instead of doing something to alleviate the pain to the POOR and make SL rise above the crisis trying to get International Investigations as to Ravana’s Pedigree!!???? Who cares!?
      WHY INTERNATIONAL?? WHY NOT NATIONAL??? The glorified, onetime Grama Sevaka (Village Headman), then became President declared with many interested Parties chorusing that in Sri Lanka ONLY THE LOCAL JUSTICE OR INQUIRY SYSTEM should be sought and employed and cannot permit International, even UNO intervention!!??
      When did you last visited, your electorate and provided consolation, Comfort those Crisis stricken!!!
      They are only sought and seen, when the ‘RULERS’ to be ELECTED!? Not otherwise, ONLY Numbers!?

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        “Since there was no Sinhalese Race during King Ravana’s period, the fact of King Ravanan being a Tamil Hindu King is an axiomatic truth.”
        Were there Tamil Hindus 12000 years ago?

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          Everyone fighting about a myth and a story, no other work to do. 12000 years ago, most probably he would have been a Veddha hunting and gathering and not a king with a sophisticated kingdom.

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            SSS

            I thought the vedhas were not there 12000 years ago.Maybe he was the balangoda man.Mahawamsa says the veddhas are the descendents of keveni and vijaya’s children who ran into the forest when kuveni was killed by her people.

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          OC,
          “Were there Tamil Hindus 12000 years ago?”
          Not sure personally as to 12,000 years of Tamil Hindus!?
          But Hinduism/Shivaism has been even before the EPICS – Ramayana and Mahabharata!!??
          So, it definitely predates Buddhism, Christianity, Islam the 4 major religions of today!!!???

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            Mahila,
            It is true that Hinduism predates the other religions, but 12000 years is over the top.
            The oldest civilization found so far in Idia is the Indus Valley civilization, at 5000 plus years.They are presumed to have had a Dravidian culture, but whether they were Hindus in the modern sense is doubtful. You must remember that modern Hinduism is not even the same as it was in the Buddha’s time.
            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_of_the_Indus_Valley_Civilization
            The Vedic civilization & culture or age period was between 1500 BC to 600 BC.
            https://unacademy.com/content/railway-exam/study-material/history/aryan-migration-and-the-beginning-of-the-vedic-civilization/#:~:text=in%20Northern%20India.-,The%20Indo%2DAryan%20Migration%20(1800%2D1500%20BCE),the%20period%201800%2D1500%20BCE.

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              oc
              “It is true that Hinduism predates the other religions,”
              I doubt.
              What people have in mind is the Vedic religion which got Sanskritized (or Brahminised as some argue).
              Today’s Hindu religions have nothing in common with that religion. No Vedic god is worshipped by ‘today’s mainstream Hindus’.
              *
              The Hindu religions as we know now are post-Sankara, and that makes them post Christian in India.
              The Hindu claim to zero, dubious though it may be, gives them a license to liberal use of the zero in historical claims.

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                SJ,
                I suppose we could call modern Hinduism Protestant Hinduism?

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                  I wish one could, for it is a world apart from the Vedic religion with countless gods.
                  Sankara (700-750 CE) campaigned for the Advaita school of ‘Hindu theology’ (non-duality of atman and Brahman, implying that the individual soul are one). This interpretation originated in the 7th Century CE.
                  What motivated Sankara most was the spread Buddhism. But Buddhism influenced his thought so much that he was called a crypto Buddhist by critics. But he was instrumental in the final blow that eliminated Buddhism from India.
                  *
                  Sources of Vedanta can be traced back to the Upanishads preceded by schools of philosophy including materialistic and atheistic ones, going back centuries BC, not millennia as Hindu enthusiasts like to claim. With no written text and only an oral tradition it is hard to verify any claim.
                  Sankara was a landmark in institutionalising and even ‘unifying’ Hindu faiths (not fully though).
                  *
                  But for all the advanced thinking, the caste system and the Varna concept have remained too resilient to overcome.
                  That is the shame of Hinduism. (You would have noticed the bigoted caste arrogance of some champions of the Tamil Hindu cause.)

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                    Correction
                    “the individual soul and ‘God’ are one.”

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            mahila

            “Were there Tamil Hindus 12000 years ago?”

            of course there was.Ask tamil history scholar Wiggie.

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          Old Codger,

          Ah ah ah, sad to note that you do not know the age of Hinduism and the Tamil ancestry.

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          Given the geography of the sub-continent the possibility of Ramayana events covering more than some hundreds of miles radius is unlikely.
          Ramayana has more than Mahabharata captured the imagination of people outside the sub-continent whereas Mahabharata is the source of much creative literature and performing arts in India.
          Every land in which the story of Rama integrated with the local culture, there was wish to geographically identify with places named in the epic. It is an enjoyable experience to read the local mythology and watch performances. But there is far less history in them than in the Mahavamsa.
          The Tamil narrative of Ravana would have him as a gigantic creature bigger than the biggest known dynasaur. The desire of many for a land link backed by amusing geological narratives leads to conflict with the island referred to in the epic.
          If written records only are to be considered in the development of languages that will be misleading about Sanskrit with a mighty oral tradition which took to writing later than Tamil and various Prakrits. The source of all Indian scripts was an import to the sub-continent from West Asia around 2500 years ago. Early Tamil inscriptions on clay urns are primitive and carry very little text.
          What happened to the Harappan system of writing is anybody’s guess.

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            SJ,
            “What happened to the Harappan system of writing is anybody’s guess?”
            The simple answer, it has been REHABILITATED AND RECONSTRUCTED as is the custom and fashion, determined by Clergy of the FOREMOST!!???

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              “REHABILITATED AND RECONSTRUCTED”
              Can you explain how the processes were executed? And by whom?
              Transition from a hieroglyph to an alphabetic symbol occurs as a long process.

    • 5
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      B1,
      ‘(Continued from previous)’
      These Jokers who are presently attempting “INTERNATIONAL INQUIRY” (II) on ‘Ravana’ or ‘Ravanan’, whatever it may be???
      These are the very same Members in 2015, characterised present President, then PM along with the then Foreign Minister Mangala Samaraweera and the entire Cabinet of Treachery and Classifying them as Terrorist supporters, Anti nationalistic and Unpatriotic in ESSENCE!!!???
      Which slur has “Stuck-On”, then incumbents PM and others of high office, w/o Rhyme or Reason!!!
      What do you attribute their intentions and right about turn on INTERNATIONAL INQUIRY (II)???
      Be that as it may, the bigger question is, if that is the case, what do we call these jokers, promoting an II on Ravana, is because that has more relevance on these scumbags’ existential circumstances, than clearing the names of the honourable gentlemen and officers of Sri Lankan defence forces!??
      If they aren’t displaying, Anti-Nationalistic, Unpatriotic and Traitorous qualities, THEN WHO IS???

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        B1 and Mahila,
        .
        It should not be an international investigation but an international independent investigation.
        Sataka-Shapa deliberately generated by Rajapakshe clan has created unnecessary hatreds towards the minorities and buried the truth in the history of Sri Lanka for their political gains.

        Last week, Mahinda Rajapaksa’s former slippers-lecker “Beast” AKA, Marvin Silva, he publicly dropped allegations at tamil srilankens that angered even dead historians, because ignorant vandibatta like Marvin Silva has only ever challenged innocent communities. All these were based on their own political existence. Karmic retribution is a provable myth, and that became clear in COVID-19 crisis than ever before.

        The saddest reality is that what was added to the Mahavamsa arbitorily, when the ” Mahawansaya” was written in Pali by Mahanama thero has not been revised again and again as of today. To that time, only hearsays were in air, however, since then, the world researchers have discovered lot more to corret any wrongful interpresations of such chronicles.
        Why cant responsible authorties (University experts in reponsible fields: Archaeologists, Geologists, Antropologists, other experts in Humanities) break the silence and work on getting more factual based information thorugh research and new discoveries.
        If SCIENCE , Engineering and MEDICINE could do it successfully, why cant the other related logies do the job, in order to correct the wrong perceptions of the met communities ?

        tbc

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      B1,
      When the Move starts with a FALSE PRESUMPTION and NOT fact, subsequent moves all end up in great folly, undoubtedly! Axiomatic!?
      The interest in Ravana – whether he is Tamil or otherwise (cannot be Sinhalese as proven already) or even half Upper Part Tamil and Lower part NATIVE or vice versa, is relatively important to certain sectors, which would determine, Kuvenis’ antecedents!!!???
      KUVENI is the greatest and important link to Sri Lanka or ‘Hela’ or ‘Ela’ as it was known in those times, and the purported landing of the discredited Bengali Prince and his coterie of 700 adventurous sea farer’s of the time plus 700 Pandya Princess (PP) to be their companions!!!
      700 PP in one shot, means the Pandya Kingdom would have been bigger than a Kingdom – more an Empire – to have so many PP to dispense for this coterie of 700 possible Bengali protagonists’!!??
      God only knows whether so much of space was available in the sub-continent!??
      MORE QUESTIONS than ANSWERS!!??
      All this appears Presumptuous, Contentious and leading nowhere!!?

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    Regarding the Sinhalisation of Tamil names, we have an Hon. Member of Parliament whose real name is Kanapathy Pillai. However, he prefers to go by the Sinhala version of that name. He is a real joker!

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      CM,
      .
      Rajapakseism has been the precedence to ruin everything it can to keep all the poisonous reptiles under one roof, thus the Sinhalaization of Tamil names began.

      And mlechcha MEDIA MAFIA promoted anything without thinking twice. Remember that since Rajapakse assumed power from November 2019, the fake relics taken by Nagaya to the most sacred Kelaniya Rajamahavihara were buried under the carpet. If we can’t pay attention to these kinds of mistakes, when will this society turn around? unCivilized nation remains as unturned forever.
      Unable to bear the pressure of the Sinhalese Buddhists for their entertainment or religious stupidity, the wild elephants dressed up in jangi (under pants) and other decorations (illuminations that could lead animal beasts unbelievably stressful)went crazy and now the best thing in Kandy Perahera is the Elephant Kulappuwa.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86anqo6-_wE

      That according to the past, hints that a state leader will be murdered or gunned down. This country’s politics and administrations would remain similar to that of a highly primitive tribal folks.

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    I applaud the MP’s.The biggest problem facing sri lanka today is whether ravana was a tamil or sinhalese or bottompart tamil and upper part sinhalese,or neither tamil or sinhalese.

    After this most vexatious identity crisis is solved we have to find out the truth about kuveni’s curse.Did we go bankrupt due to the rajapakshes or kuveni? Were the rajapakshes merely a tool of kuveni?

  • 8
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    Hello, I was born as Mandodari in one of my previous births. Wife of King Ravana, his queen consort and still has vivid dreams about this. In my dreams, I speak to my husband Ravana and in Thamizh chide and scold him for abducting daughter Seetha and ask him to be righteous. We all sing praises to our Great Lord Siva in Thamizh, this means we are Thamizh and not Chingkallam. Aiyo Aiyo Sivane. This dancing and song also comes vividly in my dream, of me and my friends dancing with the Asuras at Asoka Vanam.

    [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDHM55zrRo8

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      Sorry, the link did not come properly . I do not want you all to miss my historic dream sequence. Especially Prince of Darkness Veeraseakaran. Enjoy

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDHM55zrRo8

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      Congratulations.
      You do think like a pandiikutti.

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        Smile. Thank you SJ Thaatha, for acknowledging the truth. Would you like one of my special Mandodari Mud Packs? They are very good for your ageing face and will take out all the spite and venom out of you.

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    It’s very sad to see that religious leaders, monks, priests, and politicians are fighting over claiming historical archeological sites as their own. There are two issues to be considered. One, from when do we start calculating the right of ownership or practice? Two, there have been so many interconnections between religions, for example, Lord Buddha himself was a Hindu.

    Take Katharagama or Kadirgamam, there is ample proof, that too very old documented evidence Kadirgamam was a Hindu place of worship, and today after numerous past racial riots it has become a Buddhist place of worship.

    Look at the temples, even in Kandy Perahara we have Hindu deities pageants.

    We should forget about petty claims and decide for good that all archeological sites are just archeological sites with a long history and not a current place of worship or religious location and these archeological sites should never be rebuilt. They should be protected as they are now for the future generations.

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      Buddhist1,
      “decide for good that all archeological sites are just archeological sites with a long history and not a current place of worship or religious location and these archeological sites should never be rebuilt. “
      But that is heresy. What will happen to all those monks who are rebuilding these places? What about that fat hamuduruwo in Mihintale, who wants electricity when the place did just fine without it for 2400 years?

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        Old Codger,

        It’s not only the monks who rebuild archeological sites but also monks who establish a temple under every bo tree that grows from the shit of a crow that has eaten the fruit of the Bo tree must be banned and stopped for good.

        There should be a strict law requiring anyone who wants to establish a place of worship, irrespective of the sect he or she belongs, they have to have prior approval from the Government. This is the only way to restrict “religious priest mudalalies” from conning the masses and stealing from the masses.

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    Unfortunately this dish is unavailable in Sri Lanka. Cooked by Benjamin Zephaniah
    .
    Take some Picts, Celts and Silures And let them settle,
    Then overrun them with Roman conquerors.
    Remove the Romans after approximately 400 years
    Add lots of Norman French to some Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Vikings, then stir vigorously.
    Mix some hot Chileans, cool Jamaicans, Dominicans, Trinidadians and Bajans with some Ethiopians, Chinese, Vietnamese and Sudanese.
    Then take a blend of Somalians, Sri Lankans, Nigerians And Pakistanis, Combine with some Guyanese
    And turn up the heat.
    Sprinkle some fresh Indians, Malaysians, Bosnians, Iraqis and Bangladeshis together with some Afghans, Spanish, Turkish, Kurdish, Japanese
    And Palestinians
    Then add to the melting pot. …
    Leave the ingredients to simmer.
    As they mix and blend allow their languages to flourish
    Binding them together with English.
    Allow time to be cool.
    Add some unity, understanding, and respect for the future,
    Serve with justice
    And enjoy.
    .
    Note: All the ingredients are equally important. Treating one ingredient better than another will leave a bitter unpleasant taste.
    .
    Warning: An unequal spread of justice will damage the people and cause pain. Give justice and equality to all.

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      Paul,
      Great!

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        old codger,
        Great or not, there is a slight trace of culinary awareness!

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      Hello Paul,
      My ancestors (on my Mother’s side) the Picts, were not overrun by the Romans. In fact they built 2 walls to keep us out of what would become England. The Picts and Caledonians probably also caused the disappearance of the Roman 9th Legion. One thousand years later the ancestors on my Father’s side were Bretons from close to Normandy (but related to the Welsh Britons). One of the Bretons, Flaald, settled in Oswestry, Shrophire. His descendant Walter FitzAlan founded the Stewart Dynasty in Scotland. For the above there is plenty of historical and DNA evidence. I have also stood by the graves of the Fitzalan family members buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire. In the document known as the Declaration of Arbroath 1320 (which mentions Walter, Steward of Scotland) it states that the Scots came from Greater Scythia by means of the Pillars of Hercules. But even this is not primary evidence and I would have to find other reliable evidence (Archaeology, Linguistics, DNA, Cultural or Historical) to give any credence to this legend.
      To be continued

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        Continued
        For Ravana (or Rama for that matter) there is not a shred of evidence. Millions of children believe in Santa Claus – do you think that warrants an International Conference to determine if he existed. The cabal that calls itself the Archaeological Department of Sri Lanka should/would have come up with plenty of evidence for Ravana, however nobody will believe them. When I argued with one of my Hindu friends in Doha that no-one ever in the world had ten heads he was adamant that everything in the Ramayana was true. and of course the evil King Ravana must have had ten heads. My assertion that Valmiki wrote the Ramayana Among the earliest mentioned Kings in History is Me-baragesi of Kish in Mesopotamia in around 2700BC. There are contemporary inscriptions that attest to his existence – for Ravana nothing. Where did they find evidence of his existence from 12,000 years ago? Like Kumara Kandam it is all fairy stories.
        Best regards

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          Sorry should have said “My assertion that Valmiki wrote the Ramayana around 300 BC was dismissed by him, asserting that it was many thousands of years older”
          Best Regards

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    Hello P. Soma Palan

    Why do you rely on the dates given by a man whose speciality is Chemical Engineering and Business. This man reminds me of the British author T Lobsang Rampa who was actually a plumber from Devon. He wrote complete garbage about Tibetan Monasteries, Yogic Flying, visiting Venus (surface temperature about 470 degrees C or so). Erich von Däniken wrote “Chariots of the Gods” about contact with Aliens in Pre-historic times. Maybe Nilesh Nilkantha Oak read both their books and was incentivised to write his garbage on the dates of Ramayana and the Mahabharata Wars. Here is a sensible link to an author that has debunked all of his dates – https://rajarammohanroy.medium.com/refutation-of-nilesh-oaks-astronomical-dating-of-the-ramayana-to-12209-bce-996ff1056199
    Best Regards

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