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Muslim Grievances Need To Be Heard, Identified And Redressed Properly: Muslim Congress

Today, almost five years after the end of the war, the wounds of the Muslim community await due recognition and redress, says the Sri Lanka Muslim Congress.

M.T. Hasen Ali MP

M.T. Hasen Ali MP

Issuing a statement, its Secretary-General M.T. Hasen Ali MP said today; “Justice has eluded the victims of massacres, thousands of Muslim families remain in IDP camps and many are unable to reclaim their lost assets, including ancestral lands and places of worship. Since the war, in my electorate alone, thousands of acres of land were expropriated by government agencies. Equally worrying is the fact that, in 2013 there were hundreds of attacks against Muslims, many of them violent.”

We publish below the statement in full;

The Muslim community has always strived to live in harmony with all communities in the island. For many generations, the community has produced many loyal citizens, who have served the nation with honour, dedication and a spirit of self-sacrifice. However, the 30 year internal armed conflict in Sri Lanka deeply affected the Muslim community – approximately 20,000 Muslims were massacred, tens of thousands were evicted from their homes overnight and assets worth billions were expropriated.

Today, almost five years after the end of the war, the wounds of the Muslim community await due recognition and redress.  Justice has eluded the victims of massacres, thousands of Muslim families remain in IDP camps and many are unable to reclaim their lost assets, including ancestral lands and places of worship. Since the war, in my electorate alone, thousands of acres of land were expropriated by government agencies. Equally worrying is the fact that, in 2013 there were hundreds of attacks against Muslims, many of them violent.

It is a matter of grave concern and regret, that even today, these victims seem all but forgotten. The precise extent and impact of the tremendous losses and continuing prejudice to the community remain unknown, as no systematic, objective official inquiries have been conducted to date. For example, even today, no one knows with any reasonable degree of certainty, how many Muslims died or went missing during the war. Existing government efforts are not fit for this purpose: it is impossible to conduct an accurate assessment of the dead and disappeared in one month – especially as many of the deaths occurred in remote border villages over two decades ago.

It is clear that the nature and extent of the particular grievances of the Muslim community need to be heard, identified, and redressed properly. This requires a special mechanism that is credible, independent and empowered in dealing with these forgotten grievances. Therefore, we call upon the Government to set up such a special mechanism forthwith, to specifically inquire into the grievances suffered by Muslims, so that proper steps may be taken to grant relief to the affected Muslim citizenry.

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    Yes , we all agree but they are inconsistent on their view , all these days stick with the Gov for gold now ( during the peace talk they the self separated from the Tamils) now again war crime and international involvement Muslims starting their grievance they want to be in I hope they are not going to change their mind like changing something else in the daily life

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      Your Leader Rauf Hakeem is Minister of Justice! Why don’t you ask him to resign from the RACIST Rajapakse govt. Mr. Hasan, if your community is suffering?
      Why does the Muslim Congress still support the Rajapaksa military dictatorship that has grabbed the land of ALL minority communities?
      Sorry to say you Muslims are a peculiar and selfish lot and only seem concerned about yourselves and YOUR interests, and not concerned about the COMMON good of ALL Sri Lankans..
      The Muslim community did well during the war years as the Tamils were attacked by the Sinhala racist state, but today since the Tamils have been smashed and defeated, the Sinhala Racist state has turned on you and it is now your turn to be attacked by the Sinhala State and its supporters including Balu Sena who are jealous of the Muslim community’s economic success, just as they were of the Tamils back in 1July 983 when the State Pogrom targetted Tamils homes and businesses. Yet, you Muslims are not willing to see the larger picture and join with the Tamil and Christian minorities and work together to address the LAND GRAB in the Eastern province by the Rajapaksa Brothers and their military businesses – including Basil Jarapassa’s 400 room Hotel in Passikudha beach..
      In the final analysis the problem is the Sinhala Racist state…

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        These Muslim politicians are unscrupulous fellows sticking to the regime like leeches to suck the blood, while Muslim community suffers.

        If the Muslim people have any self respect they should throw out these rogues in the next elections.

        This fellow shamelessly writes an article to the CT instead of getting his Muslim ministers to pressure the government to stop the atrocities against Muslims.

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          You may be right.

          I thought that GUY (Asath salley) who was arrested few months ago, behaves today as if he is electroshocked. His guts seem to have been controlled by some means. He was the only person I thought could be considered as young good muslim politician who fearlessly raised his voice – but to this day – his has been robbed or mixed to their seniors´.

          They have to learn more from Politicians like Sumanthiran. I like the guy and his speeches in the parliament. Alas, all these few weeks, we failed his articles on CT.

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            I understand that the latest Channel 4 movie on unbelievable, but true, cruel and ghastly Sri Lankan genocide scenes of Tamils (taken by Sri Lankan soldiers) during the war is coming soon.

            Let it tear the masks of the embedded writers and analysts propping up the genocidal regime and its henchmen.

            These are the barbarians and the state the writers want Tamils to reconcile with!

            Better to perish than living under the jack boots of these barbarians.

            This movie must be shown in Geneva in March 2014.

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          These fellows are SHIT scared of loosing their perks.

          Yoosuf

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        Don@
        yours is a legitimized question each time I failed to read any statement made by present day MINISTER OF JUSTICE. Many in European counterparts would do so even if a minor issue emerged in terms of their folks. You are right many of the country in a view as if we dont have an appointed MINISTER of JUSTICE in the issues that we get to hear against the civil folks today. I wish I could read what the set of his tasks as a minister of justice; whether more of them were grabed by the president behind the scene etc.

        For some hidden reasons, the guy seems to hide behind – this was the feeling I had I dont know about the ones living in the country. I am not sure, whether guy would even open his mouth for having his 3 meals ?

        Be it was related to Rathupaswala, Deraniyagala or lately heard journalist -Mel´s murder, nothing we hear from our SO CALLED MINISTER OF JUSTICE. I wonder what kind service he has been fulfiliing to the nation ? All these ministries are said to have allocated million if not billions by all mighty president, but what have they done using those millions or billions ?

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          Hitlerpassa is holding the trump card, namely, the “Kumari File”. This bugger and many other muslim M.P.s won’t say anything against our mad dictator.

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        Don “Stanely” the [Edited out]

        Muslims are not alone suffering from the after effects of the senseless Tamil war we had fo fight for 30 years. Muslims at least have money. Millions of poor Sinhalese suffer more.

        So think as Sri lankans not as Muslims.

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          This is the reason why the many of them are sent to clean toilets in Dubai or other corners of the world. Most muslims seem to have no brains to see the gravity of the problems. They should leave the UPFTA and struggle for them by their own.

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        Certainly better than the fascist LTTE.

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      Mr pasel, why not you start to write something coherant. Neighter you do not use punchuation marks nor complete sentenses. Besides we do not follow an idea within.
      I suppose the Moderator should read what the Commentor has written first. And wet it before presenting for the public.
      Yoosuf

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    Dear Hon. M T Hasen Ali, MP

    “Issuing a statement, its Secretary-General M.T. Hasen Ali MP said today; “Justice has eluded the victims of massacres, thousands of Muslim families remain in IDP camps and many are unable to reclaim their lost assets, including ancestral lands and places of worship. Since the war, in my electorate alone, thousands of acres of land were expropriated by government agencies. Equally worrying is the fact that, in 2013 there were hundreds of attacks against Muslims, many of them violent.”

    What we all see is the failure of the Egalitarian society , and the emergence of the racist chauvinist Sinhalese Mahanama Buddhist and Tamil Chauvinist Society.

    You are taking the correct action by bringing this racism and discrimination to and make it international. Of course this chauvinism is not limited to Sinhala Mahanama Buddhists, Andaman it extends to Tamil chauvinists as well.

    That is where the Sri Lankan socialists failed din building an Egalitarian Society.

    The curse of Monk Mahanama.

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      Amarasiri Laundary – doing laundary services for nuslims

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        Ela Kolla,

        Who’s laundry are you doing? A certain corrupt clan’s from Hambantota?

        Cheers!

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          Probably Ella kolla is doing the laudry of the back-side as well.

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          Not at all…MR didn’t fulfill sinhalese buddhist aspirations except winning the war

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            This can’t be the original ela kolla because he manages to make two printable comments. I like the original one more. He is much more eloquent with his dead silence.

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        Thana kolla talking nonsense again. Please take specialized medical care and attention ASAP!!

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        el kolla,

        Amarasiri is the laundry of of the Egalitarians and Agnostics.

        El kolla is the shill and Laundry Man of the Rajapaksas and the Mahanama Sinhala Buddhist Racists, who do NOT follow the teachings of the enlightened Buddha. What happened to the Tamil Buddhists of Lanka?

        Too bad, el-kolla, your parents did not sell you out to the temple as a Samanera when you were a 7-year old kolla, to become the hole-fodder of the senior Monks. The upside would have been, when you kolla, grew up to be a senior monk, miniha, you would have been able to return the favors to the new kolla Samaneras.

        Here is the evidence.

        Child Abuse by a Monk in Habaraduwa

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSC93mPs4I

        Uploaded on May 29, 2010
        She sent her grandson to school with the idea of providing him with proper education to make him a good person. The Buddhist monk in charge of the temple asked her to send the child to the temple and she sent him there because they were poor. There was no possibility for them to pay the money for tuition fees. That was the reason why they sent the boy to the temple school.When the child began to refuse going to the temple school so adamantly, grandmother had to look for the reason. It was then only that she discovered that the child who was sent to learn good behavior, ethics and Buddha’s Dharma from the monk had in fact been abused by the monk.

        More Details:
        http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2010/

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          Amarasiri (Mohamed);

          Is this an exception. In all the clergy in all the religion are human beings and they are not blameless. Are Muslim clergy is free from it? You have no case here my friend.

          You also do as we do. Why only we are wrong?

          Not only your clergy, your prophet himself was a rapist. But not ours.

          Thanks!

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            yapa,

            Ad hominem attacks. Stick to the issue and subject.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

            Yes, all clergy are human beings, some more than the others.

            To the Muslims and Christians, Amarasiri is an Atheist.

            To the Sinhala Mahanama Chuvanist Buddhists, who do not follow the teachings of enlightened Buddha, Amarasiri is a Muslim.

            To the Tamil Chuvanist Tamils, who do not follow the teachings of enlightened Christ or Hindu teachings, Amarasiri is a Sinhala Buddhist.

            To Amarasiri, all the above are myth followers who diligently follow their myths, kill and maim other humans because they do not follow their myths.

            Amarasiri is an egalitarian agnostic, until new data comes to confirm or deny a myth.

            Deja Vu….

            Listen to Chris Hutchins talk. Read his book.

            Hitchens DESTROYS Religion. This includes Monk Mahanama Sinhala Buddhism, that is devoid of Tamil Buddhists.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuI4Nzc07Io

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              Amarasiri;

              Deeds speak louder than your words man.

              “Amarasiri an egalitarian agnostic”.

              Egalitarian?????? Agnostic?????

              For an agnostic how come “enlightened Christ and Hindu teaching” available? How come for an agnostic, there could be teaching of “enlightened Buddha”? How come an Egalitarian state the following ill-willed statements towards anybody?

              “Too bad, el-kolla, your parents did not sell you out to the temple as a Samanera when you were a 7-year old kolla, to become the hole-fodder of the senior Monks. The upside would have been, when you kolla, grew up to be a senior monk, miniha, you would have been able to return the favors to the new kolla Samaneras.”

              Are you following the “enlightened teaching” of Christ, Hindus or of the Buddha? (You so called egalitarian agnostic?

              You are a dishonest perverted liar who who contradicts yourself hiding behind a pseudonym.

              Thanks!

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                Yapa,

                Read:

                “Amarasiri is an egalitarian agnostic, until new data comes to confirm or deny a myth.”

                Amarasiri has given some benefit of doubt to those who are civilized and show humanistic and egalitarian values, despite being mixed u with their myths,PROVIDED, they keep to THEMSELVES, without IMPOSING their MYTHS on OTHERS.

                In Sri Lakka, Sinhala Buddhist Monk Mahanama Racists, try to impose their monk Mahanama lies as fact, when clearly it is not the case, and it has nothing to do with Buddhism.

                The same can be said for Hindus, Christians, Jews , Muslims and others. However, as long as they keep it to themselves, without imposing on others, “Amerasirians” it os all right.

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    The needs of the muslimcommunity are very basic. The right to live as equal citizens and enjoy the legal rights afforded to all citizens of this country. The right to practice ones religon without fear or hindrance. The right to own land and property etc. Even language is not an issue as Muslims are by and large, multilingual.

    However it is a shame that the Govt cannot guarantee these minimal requirements which are enshrined in the constitution. Instead the leaders and politicians choose to play politics with race and religon. Today it is not possible even to have a mosque in an area inhabited by a majority of muslims. Blatant discrimination is practiced by the local minions of the racist parties.

    Mosque in Dehiwala ordered to close down NSC dismayed – “The National Shoora Council (NSC) comprising prominent Muslims and religious organizations, has expressed dismay at the Ministry of Buddha Sasana and Religious Affairs, directing the Divisional Secretary, Dehiwala, and the police, to close down a mosque in Dehiwala, despite the Divisional Secretary having no authority to do so.

    “Some foreign governments have openly threatened action at the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC) sessions in Geneva scheduled for March 2014, when the allegations against Sri Lanka, which are said to include alleged violations against minority religions and their places of worship, are taken up. We are terribly dismayed that the actions of the Ministry of Buddha Sasana and Religious Affairs would only prove that these allegations against our country are true,” Head of the NSC, Tariq Mahmoud, said.

    Meanwhile, addressing a letter to the Assistant Divisional Secretary for Dehiwala, Thanuja Fernando, the Secretary of the NSC, Ismail Azeez, pointed out that if Fernando carries out the illegal request made by the ministry, it would impact on the peaceful coexistence between the different communities.” – http://www.ceylontoday.lk/51-55836-news-detail-mosque-in-dehiwala-ordered-to-close-down-nsc-dismayed.html

    It is a telling indictment of the Govts oft repeated stand that it is treating all communities equally as guaranteed under the constitution. At the same time there is no doubt that the Govt relies heavily on the OIC countries for support at Geneva UNHRC and for economic aid and foreign job employment. This type of blatant discrimination and double speak is quite evident to everyone except the Govt ostriches with their heads buried in the sand and also the so called muslim leaders who do nothing for the community other than enjoying the perks of office.

    However the writ of the Allmighty will prevail and those who attack muslims and obstruct their worship and religon will ultimately meet their just ends. Do as they will they will not succeed in their uncivilised actions.

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    MISLIM CONGRESS CANNOT SHOW ONE FACE TO KING AND ANOTHER FACE TO OUT SIDE WORLD.HOW LONG YOU ALL ARE PLAYING THIS GAME.YOU ARE TREE BY DAY AND HAND OR BEETLE LEAF IN THE NIGHT AND ELEPHANT IN YOUR DREAM.PLEASE STOP THIS GAME.

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      Very correct assesment.
      Double salute.

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    Pls visit the page in CT
    Keep Your ‘Kiribath’, Mr. Gammanpila
    March 13, 2013 | Filed under: Colombo Telegraph,Opinion,Popular | Posted by: COLOMBO_TELEGRAPH
    ————————————————-

    JHU’s call for public donations rake in Rs. 842,000 February 8, 2014, 6:35 pm

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    Gammanpila-“I will be launching my inaugural campaign meeting in Colombo with the participation of academics, professionals, clergy, journalists and diverse social sections of civil society, at the auditorium of the Sri Lanka Foundation Institute (SLFI) on Thursday (13) at 10 am”, he note

    Gammanpila ,said that Defense Secretary, Gotabya Rajapaksa will preside as the chief guest, whilst the leader of the Jathika Hela Urumaya (JHU) Dr. Omalpe Sobitha thera will be the guest of honour and will address the gathering.

    He said the problem some people faced in donating money was the transfer fees of Rs. 250 charged by banks. They had to pay Rs. 250 to transfer Rs. 100 from one account to another.

    “They say they wouldn’t mind contributing the whole Rs. 360 to my party without paying transfer fees to banks”, he noted.

    ————————————–

    A master mind way to rob the poor people ,, when will Sri Lankans ever learn?

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      CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT A LAWYER HE SHOULD BE – IF HE INVITES “SECRETARY OF DEFENCE” to speak on his political stage ?

      What the Election commissioner has been saying – all the along, that he would take any action against anyone who would go aginst the election campaign guidelines ?

      Paradoxially, this good Gamapilla is said to be a learnt L- A-W-Y-E-R:

      In the current context, political environment, lawyers to become liars, layers would not take that long. This is the sad reality.

      People should be made aware by giving them FACTS and FIGURES of the current administration so that they can be liberated from the clutches of UPFTA – most dangerous political coalition made to destroy all morals and ethics.

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        LAWYERS are PROFESSIONAL LIARS…. goes an old saying……cant be wrong…..

        LOL @ S.O.D addressing the event… like how he went to Galle to open the BBS office there, and claim he is NOT part of BBS but had gone to honor an Invitation…. MY FOOT..

        SL is becoming a nation with religious disharmony and it is going to take the country another 30 or more years to deal with…

        Oh mother Sri- Lanka…… I weep for thee..

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    The priority among grievances appears to be not having provisions in the constitution to enforce sharia law.

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      Ha! Ha! Really that is their dream in any where of the world. To crown the myth.

      Thanks!

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    Muslim grievances, Tamil grievances, Up-country Tamil grievances, Christian grievances, RC grievances, NGO grievances, Malay grievances, Sinhala Buddhist grievances, Karawa grievances…..there is only one solution, MR must put all their representatives in parliament and control them with money & power. Clever man.

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    Hasen Ali, Do muslims have grievences? I wonder because,

    1. They came to this country for trade or whatever from middle east or from Tamilnadu, they settle down here and married sinhala women and erect Mosques all over the country.

    2.When Portugese conquer this land King Senerath send the to Eastern Province for their safety. And then they colonise Eastern province.
    While the colonise eastern province, came back to their original places after Prtugese left.

    3. Then when LTTE kick them out from Jaffna and Mannar, they settled down in government lands in Puttlam. Now I think they can go back to Jaffna and Mannar again but never leave the government lands in Puttlam. Sooner or later they occupy the both Puttlam and Jaffna,Mannar lands.

    4.Although Gadaffi is no more, his advice heeded by Muslims by increasing their population and erecting mosques everywhere in the country without any hindrance. The streets in Kaththankudy,Akkarpattu,Santhurai are in Arabic language. If Gadaffi is still alive he will pump more money to buy lands in adjacent areas.

    5. Because late PM Sirimavo appointed Badurdeen Mohomed as education minister in 71, he scrap History and Sinhala Literature from the school sylabas, he put the first step to destroy Sinhala nation. The result is evident in present day younger generation of Sinhalese.

    6.Because Ashroff given a Ministerialship by Chandrika,he gave about thousand of jobs to muslims in Colombo harbour and the Ports authority. And he put every resources in Ports Authority to buy lands,built houses for Muslims in Oluvil,Digawapi and Pothuvil area. Even 34 Acres belong to Muhudu Maha Viharaya distribute among his henchmen and built houses by spending Ports authority money.

    7. Because muslims import illegal drugs from Pakistan and India and distribute it among sinhala people, almost about one quarter of young sinhalse ruin their future. And by importing Family Planning injections and other similar items illegally and distribute to Abortion centers by muslims, help to kill unborn babies mostly of Sinhalese.

    8. Because MR appoint Hakeem as a Minister of Justice just to keep the two third majority or whatever, how he enroll more muslim students to Law college? Did Minister intervene in Law College exam? Do muslim DS in Pothuvil wrongfully gave “special permits” to about 2000 people covering almost 5000 acres of government land? This lands belong to Forest dept. Did Minister Hakeem intervene in this illegal distribution? HE is JUSTICE minister Hasen Ali.

    There are many more grievances Hasen Ali. Tell me now who has most of grievances. Is it Sinhalese or Muslims?

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      Settle all the Muslims in Sinhala buddhist areas like Hambanthota. Or there is plenty of free land in the Middle East and Afghanistan.

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        Noel jones and mMaveeran,

        The land of Lanka belongs to the Native Veddahs. They walked across the land bridge when the sea levels were low. They are the true natives of Lanka.

        Everybody else is a Kallathoni or Illegal.

        This list incluses

        1. The Bengalis
        2. The Kalingas,
        3. The Orissans
        4. The Tamils
        5. The Malayalams ( The Karavas)
        7. The Yonas and the Muslims, Arabs and Persians.
        8. The Portugese and the Ksafirs.
        9. The Dutch
        10. The Malays
        11. The English
        12. The Chinese and the other Kallathonis, the Illegals.

        They all should get back to their Native Lands and leave Lanka to the Native Vedda.

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          Amarasiri

          Thanks again

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            Vedda’ read my comment below.

            Thanks!

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          Yes, very true, you want all the illegal people to go back? Good you go to your hell and we will stay here with veddas.

          On this criterian only veddas and Sinhalese can stay.

          Sri Lanka was inhabited 35,000 years ago, Balangodaman proves it. When Vijaya came here even the Mahavanas accepts that there were civilizations here. Vijaya came here with only 700 people. If the Sinhalese are descendants of those Bengals(Vijaya and his accomplices), all the natives lived before vijaya’s arrival should have been eliminated by those Bengals. Is there any evidence to show that every native lived here were eliminated leaving none?

          When vVijaya arrived here there were four tribes lived here, Yakka, Naga, Rakka and Deva. After the Vijaya’s arrival in addition to them there were 700 Bengals. Due to the help of Kuveni, a native princes, Bengals could capture the power of the country, however, that did not eliminate the native population. There were fights among these groups for power in the country until the Arhath Mahinda Thero arrived Sri Lanka. After the Thero’s arrival all tribes and Bengals except a few accept the common worldview of Buddhism and became one entity called Sivehela(four Helas-four tribes)/Sinhalese. Those who didn’t accept the common worldview, Buddhism, went to the jungle and formed the Vedda community.

          Those were the community found in Sri Lanka until the Arabs came came around 1000 B.C. as merchants settled here in small settlements and until the Tamils migrated from North India formed little settlements in North of the country in the 13th century.Later in the 15th century,Aryachakrawarthi invaded the Jaffna peninsula and conquered it. Except Sinhalese and the Vedda clan alll the others are either immigrants or invaders. In later centuries Portuguese, Brits brought Tamils from Tamilnadu to work in their tobacco fields in Jaffana.

          Except Sinhalese and Vedds all the other people in this country are descendents of either immigrants or invaders or of the slaves brought here by Europeans. Then Only the Sinhalese and the Veddas are native here. According to your theory, you should go back with Tamils in Sri Lanka. But they have not asked for it and you are forcing to those other than natives should go. So, let the Tamils live here as they are not asking only natives to stay here, but as you want others to go you guys should jump into the see and go according to your theory. Then po, po, why live here, go with your mythical ideology.

          Thanks!

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            yapa,

            “and until the Tamils migrated from North India formed little settlements in North of the country in the 13th century.Later in the 15th century,Aryachakrawarthi invaded the Jaffna peninsula and conquered it.”

            You need to do DNA analysis of the Veddah and the Sinhala to figure out the genealogy. Elara Tamils were there in 200 BC. Lanka was Hindu and most probably Dravidian before the Bengali arrival.

            The Mahawansa has lot of rubbish, introduced by the poems of Monk Mahanama, introduced in the 5th Century AD. Take it with a bag of salt.

            Amarasiri’s hypothesis is that ONLY Native Veddahs have the right to call all the others Kallathonis and Para, foreigners. Para-Demala, Para-Sinhalaya, Para-Muslima, Parangi etc.

            Humans were there in India 30,000 to 50,000 years ago. They all migrated from Africa about 65,000 years ago when the sea levels were low. The Balangoda man, approximately 30,000 years ago was probably the ancestor of the present day native Veddah, OR, may have been one of the early migrants who died out, and the current Native Veddah is the only surviving original migrants. So, only the native Veddah can can call the Tamils.=, the Sinhala and others as Para, para-Sinhalaya, Para-Demala, para-Muslima, Parangia etc.

            https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/

            When humans first ventured out of Africa some 60,000 years ago, they left genetic footprints still visible today. By mapping the appearance and frequency of genetic markers in modern peoples, we create a picture of when and where ancient humans moved around the world. These great migrations eventually led the descendants of a small group of Africans to occupy even the farthest reaches of the Earth.

            https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/human-journey/

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              Ha! Ha!!, you have no point here Amarasiri, my dear fellow!

              I will let you enlighten about this in a subtler plane. Believe me, Veddas and the Sinhalese are the only descendents of the original natives of the island.

              As you have said and many believed and truly,

              1. There was no an ethnic group called Sinhalese, before the Arhath Mahinda Thero’s time.

              2. It might be true as well that natives lived here before Bengals (Vijaya and his associates)arrival were Hindus, but there is no evidence in this regard. Those natives were worshipers of Yaksa, Naga, Raksa and Deva, and there is no mention being Hindus.

              3.It is true that there were Elara Tamils in 200 B.C.

              BUT DO ALl THESE PROVE THAT

              i. Sinhalese are not natives of this country?

              2. Present day Tamils are natives?

              NOT AT ALL. IT IS THE OPPOSITE.

              The opposite truth is Sinhalese (along with Veddas)are natives here and Tamils and Muslims are not.

              I am expressing facts, not that I am asking anybody to go from here. I don’t say just because Tamils and Muslims are not natives, they should go. But nothing changes those facts.

              Please listen.

              As I have mentioned in my last post the four tribes Yaksa, naga, Raksa and Deva had been here for about 30,000 years when Vijaya arrived. They were the descendents of Balangodaman and may be some came from Indian subcontinent as well.After Vijaya’s arrival those few Bengals along with four tribes became one ethnicity, after embracing the “common worldview” of Buddhism, and those “Four -Hela” that is “Siv-Hela” tribes became a single ethnic entity called “Sinhala=Siv +Hela. Really origin of Sinhala took place from the root of Buddhism. As I have mentioned earlier, a few who did not accept the common philosophy of Buddhism, continued to worship “Nae Yakku” and became veddas. So, the descendents of the natives are then limited only to 1. Sinhalese 2. Vedda’s

              Then come your question of Tamils of Elara era who came here.Definitely some of them must have settled down here even though the Elara was defeated by Sinhalese. But have you ever found any Tamil person descending from those Tamils of Elara’s time? Not at all. You didn’t have Tamil civilizations in Anuradhapura and Polonnaruwa or Tamil culture in those areas. Why? Whay happened to those Tamils who were here in Elara’s time?

              Really they couldn’t continue as Tamils in the Sinhalese society, and they were absorbed as Sinhalese to the Sinhala society. Those Tamils did not continue as Tamils.

              Hence until a few settlements were formed around 10th century in the north who came from North India, those who lived here were only Sinhalese and Veddas. As I have said in my earlier post present day Tamils live here are not descendents of the Elara Tamils or even of the tribal people even if there were Hindus among them.

              All the Tamils living here are the descendents of the Tamils came after 10th century, in the 15th century with Aryachakrawarthi’s invasion and brought by the in later centuries. Muslims were the migrants of Arabs.

              One should keep in mind to understand this issue clearly is to understand the difference between “race” and “ethnicity”. Really Sinhalese is not dot a distinct race, but a distinct ethnicity. Sinhhales is a biological mixture/genetic mixture and not belong to a specific genetic group as Aryan or Dravidian. But we are culturally a distinct group, that is a distinct ethnic group. This ethnic group along with Vedda (most probably a race) are the descendents of the natives, and nothing but.

              Do you understand Amare, what I am telling you?

              Thanks!

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                yapa,

                I understand what you are saying, make the case for the Sinhala Buddhist Chuvanism, but the facts are twisted by Monk Mahanama in the Mahawansa, like the grandfather of Vijaya being a Lion (No lion genes), Buddha was in Lanka in 500 BC, three times, and he set his foot on Samanal Kanda ( Adams Peak) myths. Did he travel by the Dandu Monera Ysantraya and Parachute?

                Most is based on Myth.

                Even if the other tribes that were there when the Para-Vijaya arrived, except the Native Veddahs, were there, it does not mean that they were the original natives. It simply means that the four tribes were there when Para-Vijaya arrived from Kalinga.

                It is more likely they, the four tribes, arrived from South India, Tamil Nadu, much, much later than the Native Veddahs.

                So, Amarasiri’s Hypothesis and Theory is that ONLY the Native Veddah have the right and credibility to call all others Para and Parangi. That includes the four tribes and the Kalingas. the Orissans and the Bengalis and Tamils.

                That includes the four tribes, and the Kalingas and their mixtures thereof.

                Mahawansa and Monk Mahanama has no credibility. You need DNA molecular Biology data proof.

                Remember the Balangoda man, along with many others left East Africa, about 65,000 years ago.

                When you check the DNA of Sinhala and Tamil. there is very little difference.

                Who was Ravana? Was it Myth? Was he Hindu?

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                  What a pathetic situation you are in Amarasiri? Have I said Mhawansa contains total truth? Did I develop my arguments on the basis that Buddha came to Sri Lanka or not? Did I refuse the view of the human origin in Africa? Did I refuse the possibility that there could have been Hindus in here even before the “Sinhalese community” originated?

                  None of them affect my theory.Irrespective of even if all those are true, my theory exists. You have only put some irrelevant details against my theory and did nothing more than a child’s play, rather than claiming that Amarasiri’s hypothesis is right without any valid reasons.

                  Do you want DNA evidence to show that Sinhalese and Tamils are different?

                  You want me to rub your dirty face against a hard rock?

                  Let the light be! Light will shine upon your face soon.

                  Thanks!

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          Amare,

          We are settled elsewhere in paradise where the temperature averages 18 with the mountain and the sea.

          But where will you go? Backwards of time like Jules Vern or /////

          hope to hear from you.

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          Vedha’s never ruled any countries, specially Srlankan vedhas were scavengers who always depended on other’s left overs. Sinhala Rodhiya people were Vedhas.

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      Noel Jones…

      HOW DUMB ARE YOU? 1st educate yourself where BUDDHISM came from… IT WAS NOT INVENTED BY THE YAKSHAS AND NAGAS OF SL WHO WERE LIVING AT THE TIME. It was BROUGHT TO SL by ARAHATH MAHINDA…. from where? not from Mahiyanga…for sure but from INDIA… where your lot need to go back to IF Muslims are to go back anywhere…

      Sr-Lanka is for Sinhalese, Tamil, Muslims, Burghers, Malays, Borahs, Bhais who have been born here…. even WHITE BLACK OR ANYONE… its called A BIRTH RIGHT……

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        `for sure but from INDIA¬

        Stupid it’s my first toy that granddad gave me.
        That is exactly what it is meant to be.
        Men have toys throughout their lives.
        To men the whole world is a urinal!

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      YOu are wrong. Govt never gave lands to the IDPs from the North. Its the Muslims who gave them land.

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    How can Muslimes cry for grievance when they are the ones who make things difficult for others. Thambi’s are good at creating problems with a hidden hand and bird watch, then cry for grievance. Why not roll out a mat, face towards Mecca and bray to Moohamhead.

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    [Edited out]

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    I detest racialism, because I regard it as a barbaric thing, whether it comes from a black man or a white man.
    Nelson Mandela

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      Sirimal,

      Too bad, we lost the opportunity to retrain the Sinhala and Tamil when he was living. We missed the opportunity to create an egalitarian society.

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    Dear Hassan Ali

    You ( SLMC) is an integral part of the Government having accepted and implementing Mahind Chintanaya.

    You are in the Cabinet that runs the Country.

    Justice in the Country is dispensed by You. (SLMC)

    Why are you shouting injustice. Is to Catch the WP Votes.

    As Usual You Contested against the Government to catch the Votes in the EP. The Joined in forming EPC Provincial Govt with UPFa.

    You ( SLMC) contested NP in the Similar Fashion to repeat like EP. Your Gamble failed.

    Noe WP & SP elections are on you (SLMC) repeat the same story. You will do so till the election is over. Then Make peace with UPFA.

    Logically Muslims have no reason to have any problem unique to that Community. However they do have the problem like all minorities Only Sinhala Buddhists do not have the common problems faced by the all minorities.

    So If you (SLMC) is interested in the well being of the Common Muslims. Please leave genuinely and call for redress to your problems. Do not be a part of the Government and shout discrimination.

    Yes Muslims Have their problems because they are Muslims like Tamils, Christians both Tamil and Sinhalese etc.

    EVEN SINHALA BUDDHIST HAVE PROBLEMS COMMON WITH ALL SRI LANKANS OTHER THAN THE FAMILY AND THEIR STOOGES. This is a separate issue that has to sorted out. That can only be done with a united House.

    That unity could be Achieved only if all domiciled in this Island are treated as equal.

    All rulars from Time immemorial knows this and they do their best to keep the people apart. be it by religion, Communities, Nationalities, Caste or by any thing imaginable.

    The rulers alway succeed in making each suspicious of other. Net Result they carry On with all the Crimes.

    Remember Stealing from a Household is theft. But when you do it in a grand Scale You are a great hero. You murder one you are a Criminal Murdered. You Kill a few more you are named a Bandit. You do a little More You are a terrorist. You do the killing in extremely high numbers in the name of Sovereignty. You are a patriot, a great warrior.

    The Biggest Killer in the World Alexander in named great. The other Great Killer from India is Asoka. He is Dharmasoka. And it Goes on.

    The Country that Killed the Most in the Name of Peace is with a single explosion is USA., the savior of Democracy.

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      Very good comment, Mr Hasan Ali should visit back CT every day and check on the comments by the reader. He may have some enlightment on the foly he (SLMC) is in, for the sake of greater muslim in their mind.
      Cheers.

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    Useless statment by Hassan Ali

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      Later is better than never.

      They could all stand to protect own folks at the time that poor girl was beheaded by the barbarians for no good reasons. Later though the family was settled through giving them a roof to – how can that be ? Is a life of a human being worth just 1mio rupees ?

      These idiots could raise it – no, they the bunch being in UPFTA tried to enjoy their perks, no matter nothing would have been the case for fellow muslims. For what purpose they have been sent to Parliament is fully ignored by these idiots. Allah should do the right things today than tomorrow against these buggers.

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        Where and who is this Allah? Was he the pedophile who married a child and had 40 children with her? Quran says to cut the clitoris of women, and kill those who doesn’t convert to islam? It also mention if you kill non-believer of Islam you will be rewarded with 72 virgins. Really? Is that what you call a religion of peace? First we should eradicate Islam to bring real peace to this world.

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    Hasen Ali:

    The problem with addressing the Muslim grievances is complicated by the fact that you have an enemy within in the form of your leader Hakeem. Despite a hand of friendship from CM Wigneswaran you to get the Maximum possible for your community you have chosen the path of Power and Position with MR more productive for personal benefit. You have no one but yourself to blame.

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    and maveeran we saw your mother rubbing >>>> xxxxxxxx on siva lingun on maha sivarahathri

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      After all it is a Muslime bugger behind the name Anton to create disharmony between communities. Why you seem to be in pain son. Whats the matter? Did you get dry humped by a pig? Anton come on dude, come back in your real name. What is your real name? Is it Mohamhead or Ahamhead?

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    noel-jones – you[Edited out] your ancestors were Bengalas who mercilessly murdered the Vedas, if Msulims & Tamils are foreigners where did you [Edited out] ancestors came from jackass ignorant idiot

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      Anton, Shut up bugger. If you can prove any of the above resons I’ve given tell me. Otherwise don’t show your vulgarness and stupidness in this forum.

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    Maveran’s [Edited out]

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    Maveeran ,[Edited out]

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      What are you choking on Puththa Anton?

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        Maveeran

        “What are you choking on Puththa Anton? “

        The same “thing” that choked you few days ago.

        I suspect that could be your hatred for others.

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          I choked on your[Edited out]

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          Native Vedda;

          The comment below by me is addressed to you vedda. Are you in agreement what I had said there?

          Thanks in advance for your response.

          Thanks!

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    Muslim grievances should be addressed, really that has to be done. It is an obligation by the whole country. However, Muslim community too should be abide by the law, ethics and obligations towards the other communities and should be sensitive to the issued faced by the other communities in this country and should not try to go pass unequally by enjoying benefits of the county. They too have some obligation not to make the other communities disturbed and feel insecurity in enjoying their freedom. They must be ready to enjoy equal rights with other communities and should adjust themselves if underrepresented benefits are enjoying over other communities. They themselves must have some self control. This allegation is heard in the spheres of economic benefits and also in the sphere of demographic trends.

    According to the census Department’s statistics for the period of last 31 years (from 1981 census to 2012 census)the growth rate of Sri Lanka Muslim population is high as four (4) times of the Tamil population and two (2) times of the Sinhalese population.

    All should look into this time bomb which would definitely explode into a massive problem in the near future. Specially Muslim community have a duty for self restrain in the name of ethnic harmony of this country in the future.

    They should not only demand their rights, they also should look into their obligations towards other communities as well.

    All have equal rights and equal obligations.

    Thanks!

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      yapa

      “the growth rate of Sri Lanka Muslim population is high as four (4) times of the Tamil population and two (2) times of the Sinhalese population.”

      What has Muslim growth rate got to do with you?

      This amounts to public scrutiny of Muslims’ private parts.

      If you really want to control population growth of this island ask your puritanical Parliamentarians to pass a secular legislation to set a maximum number of children a couple could have.

      As long as the Muslims abide by the law of the land that’s fine and they do not have to pass extra loyalty tests just because a moron like you think that you should control Muslim’s sexual conduct within their family home.

      You are a bigoted pervert.

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        Native Vedda;

        Truth hurts but it is still the truth.

        The world is not controlled solely by laws, but there are moral conduct, ethics, duties, obligations, respect towards others etc. etc. which are important for a healthy sustenance of a society.

        One or a community has to be on guard on their actions which affects others. They cannot do everything by their own will alone. They will have to respect the society norms as well. Therefore Muslim population growth rate is not a personal matter of Muslims alone. The whole society has a duty and obligation into look into this matter for the harmony and well-being of our society.

        This is a grave issue faced by our society which should be drawn immediate attention. Tamils of this country feel the effect more quickly than Sinhala community and they will soon become the second minority of this country.The demographic composition of the country would be upside-down soon if not immediate remedies are not sought.

        Truth not only hurts sometimes it can be a killer!

        Thanks!

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          yapa

          “Truth hurts but it is still the truth.”

          What is truth?

          What is absolute truth?

          Quotes about “Truth” from great and the good which may not interest you however may be useful for your kids if you haven’t ruined them yet with your bigoted world view:

          Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.

          Buddha

          Truth is by nature self-evident. As soon as you remove the cobwebs of ignorance that surround it, it shines clear.

          Mahatma Gandhi

          Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.

          Marcus Aurelius

          I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts.

          Abraham Lincoln

          In a time of universal deceit – telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

          George Orwell

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            Ha! Ha!! Native vedda;

            I am not a man dependent of anybody’s opinion. Abraham Lincoln, George Orwell or anybody else Just humans like me and I don’t think they are superior to me in intellectual capacity as their intellectual capacities, as they have not been tested against mine. I have no care for authority just as I don’t have any heed to faith. Come on man on your own and see who the man is.

            Remove your mass and come and see, combat with me with your own capacity. Then we can see who the man is. I will definitely destroy your mythical beliefs. Truth? You mean truth?? You have challenged the wrong man. If possible defeat me. I will disrobe and show who you are.

            Come on man, come on, will see our manhood.

            Thanks!

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              yapa

              “Come on man, come on, will see our manhood.”

              You are indeed a dirty old pervert.

              “combat with me with your own capacity.”

              Why would I accept your very very very stupid challenge?

              A three year old kid could disarm you with his/her IQ.

              I repeat my earlier questions:

              What is truth?

              What is absolute truth?

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                Vedda;

                Truth definitely represents the opposite of Islam, that I can tell you for sure.

                If you want to learn from me, I will tell my idea, if you have a better one tell me.

                Truth is the manifestation of reality. Absolute truth is the indifferent manifestation of reality for all (if such a thing exist).

                I emphasize, according to these definitions or any other accepted definition of it, Islam is a myth.

                So you may start disarming me with your bow and arrow. But mind your mythical foot.

                Thanks!

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                  Vedda;

                  Did you understand what “truth” and “absolute truth” are or are you choked with what you wanted to vomit?

                  Come on man, will see the truth. The sun is shining. Come on man. yapa is here to help you.

                  Thanks!

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                    Vedda, what is your solution to the unprecedentedly high population growth rate of Muslims and its social imperatives of it in Sri Lanka?

                    Do you know if the present trends of the population growths continues, the Moor population in Sri Lanka will surpass the Tamil community in ten and a half years (10.5 years) and Sinhalese community in 163.65 years.

                    Do you deny this fact?

                    You didn’t answer my question.

                    Thanks!

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                Vedda, where are you? Run out of fuel?

                Thanks!

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          Muslims will usually strictly adhere to their religious belief that killing of unborn fetus is bad (haram), and so they abstain from it. If it happens as an unplanned conception, the worst is they will accept it and carry forth the pregnancy until full term, believing it to be God’s will. Thereafter will welcome the new born as God’s gift. This is very unlike in any other community where parents resort to abortion in similar circumstances. Although they accept that killing is bad, they don’t consider it serious enough in the case of unborn fetus. Therefore, Muslims shouldn’t be blamed for others short sightedness in this respect. In fact these are challenges faced by all families irrespective of their religious background and upbringing. What matters most is how each family/community handles it according to his or her or their own beliefs.

          Muslims have NO premeditated plans to produce off springs to climb the population ladder. These are myths spread by bogus monks, and the foolish people have swallowed the bait. The rate of conversions to Islam may also be another factor to rise in Muslim population in most of the developed nations. Just watching Youtube international debates on comparative religion is enough to evince the truth.

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      Its true that Muslimes [Edited out]

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    You all racist ____________, what happened your conscious, do you all eat rice or p__ s___ ,
    Why don’t you all get together and fight for your rights. You all are really fools, barking like dogs at each other. Join together and fights for your proper rights, Muslims or Hindus or Buddhists or Christians ok Sinhalese or Tamils.

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      Mad max
      Hey, yes we all eat rice. What about you? Do you eat bacon and pork chops or what?

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    [Edited out]

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      Maveeran

      What are you choking on Puththa Maveeran?

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        Hey Native, you forgot to take your loin cloth after last night’s dance performance you gave us. Your wife was brilliant, she did what a true Rodiya woman does. What did you do with the money you collected yesterday?

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    Thambige [Edited out]

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    Dear CT ,you have allowed maveeran to Insult others religion by fabrications and openly abusing the God almighty in filth ,and all I did was post clear evidence straight from his religious texts ,,How come Maveeran is allowed to insult Islam and Christianity both being Abraham faiths and we are not allowed to show what his belief is about ?
    CT are you falling from your appreciated standard ? are you using US double standard? have you chosen to suddenly become biased towards Islam? very disappointing , after all I guess all medias are the same..
    cheers
    =================================================================

    Maveeran you Tamil Hindu ignorant [Edited out] go read the sticking filth in your scripture -you worship the Penis carved by rock of so called shiva a personage of Mythology & his wife’s parwathi’s virgin & you talk of others faith , I am a catholic you Tamil racist [Edited out]

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      Who said I was Hindu?

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    @NV -The Tamil racist [Edited out] mavaeeran [Edited out]

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    Marwan ,but this maveeran Tamil Hindu racist [Edited out]now check the pregnancy of their women and if it is a[Edited out]

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    Maweeran you ignorant bigot ,,you accuse slam of Pedophile , here see what your scriptures say and show me one single verse like this in The Moslem Coran?

    Gautama (18-21).— A girl should be given in marriage before puberty.

    Vashistha (17.70).— Out of fear of the appearance of the menses, let the father marry his daughter while she still runs about naked. For if she stays in the home after the age of puberty, sin falls on the father.

    Bodhayana (4.1.11).— Let him give his daughter, while she still goes about naked, to a man who has not broken the vow of chastity and who possesses good qualities, or even to one destitute of good qualities ; let him not keep the maiden in his house after she has reached the age of puberty.

    (Manu IX, 88; http://www.payer.de/dharmashastra/dharmash083.htm)

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      Anton;

      I am also challenging Abraham faiths as a Buddhist, can you also show me the flaws of Buddhism as well?

      I tell you. Islam is a total myth. Do you contest it? You can show the flaws of Buddhism and disprove it I challenge you if possible. Do it if possible. I will disprove Islam with fundamentals.

      You take the bet (you myth believer)?

      Thanks!

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    Corrected spelling Slam to Islam
    ===========================
    Maweeran you ignorant bigot ,,you accuse Islam of Pedophile , here see what your scriptures say and show me one single verse like this in The Moslem Coran?

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      Im a Roman Catholic Anton. And I believe that Hinduism was here long before Jesu, Buddha, Allah or anyone else. How am I a racist when Im only pointing out the facts about Islam? Would you cut off your sister’s clitoris just because she had an affair with me? You wouldn’t right? But the book of hate The blady Koran says to cut the heads off non- believers, stone people to death, chop off the hands of those who steal. Im sick of this Pisslamic believes.

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    Here You Tamil racist [Edited out] maveeran more for you to choke on
    \===================================
    In an article entitled “Child Marriage in Nepal”, we read:

    In the ancient Hindu scriptures of 400 to 100 BC, there are strict moral laws that enjoin the father to marry off his daughter at a very young age. These religious texts indicate that the best age for a girl to get married is between is 8 and 10.

    It has been also mentioned that a girl should not wait for marriage more than three years after attaining puberty, and if she is not given by then in marriage by her father, the texts even instruct her to get married on her own. Such religious texts (the Bishnu Sutra and Gautam Sutra) direct the father to marry his daughter within three weeks of attaining puberty, and no later.

    By 200 BC, the rules for a daughter’s marriage seems to have become even more strict.

    The religious texts of that time contain strict moral laws that enjoined the father to marry off his daughter before she reaches puberty. Sage Manu of that age has categorically written in his treatise, Manu Smriti, that if a girl remains unmarried after reaching the puberty, the father has failed in his duty towards her.

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    You Tamil Hindu racist [Edited out] -Maveeran the [Edited out] here more Siva shit

    (Child Marriage in Nepal, http://www.cwin.org.np/resources/issues/child_marriage.htm)

    The Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics says:

    [It was considered] sinful on the part of the [Hindu] father to allow his daughter to attain puberty without being married and the girl herself fell to the condition of a Sudra [i.e. low caste], marriage with whom involved degradation on the part of the husband…the Smrti of Manu fixes the age of husband and wife at 30 and 12 or 24 and 8 respectively; the later work of Brhaspati and the didactic portion of the Mahabharata give the wife’s age in these cases as 10 and 7 respectively, while yet later texts give 4 to 6 as the lower and 8 as the upper limit. There is abundant evidence that these dates were not merely theoretical.

    (Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, p.450, http://books.google.com/books?id=INJI4FGeLpYC&pg=PA523&lpg=PA523&dq =manu+ix+a+girl+should+be+given+in+marriage+before+puberty&source=web &ots=7WP3uyXj9V&sig=HN-O7gG0ya_0QTuwCvEUjGPQG_Y#PPA522,M1)

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