28 October, 2020

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My Humble Request To My Sinhala Brethren Especially The Buddhists

By C.V. Wigneswaran

Justice C.V. Wigneswaran

A journalist asked me: There are various articles by Sinhalese complaining about your message regarding the ban on the travel of Shavendra Silva and his family to United States’ soil. They fear you have a political road map for the Tamils to separate. What is your take on that?

My response was: Rubbish! Firstly Shavendra Silva is a wanted man for war crimes and crimes against humanity and genocide. What is wrong in congratulating any country for such Country recognizing his past activities as criminal. If he is not guilty he should come forward to be investigated upon and tried by an impartial Commission of Inquiry consisting of members from the International Community. Secondly I certainly have a political road map but not for the North and East to separate. North and East are even now separated by language, religions, Topography, Geology, Environment and so on. We have a different language being spoken from pre historic times in the North and East to that spoken elsewhere though that language (Sinhala) is of recent vintage. Most of our people are either Christian, Muslim or Hindu. The Buddhists who occupy the North and East are those who were brought in during the last 100 years. When I was living in the old town of Anuradhapura in the 1940s lots of Tamils owned land in Anuradhapura. Mr. Nadarajah was Chairman, Town Council for 17 Years.

Of course there was a time when the Tamils were Buddhists long time ago but in course of time they gave up Buddhism to go back to their old religion Saivaism. This happened during the time when the Bakthi (Devotion) cult was developing in South India. Topographically and environmentally ours is a dry zone and we have no rivers. Only tanks and wells. Geologically we have calcium carbonate content in our Earth. So to a great extent ours is a separate area. Our areas are distinct since majority of us speak the Tamil Language. Many of my Sinhala friends from the South coming to visit Nainativu comment on the change in environment, topography and language when they pass Vavuniya. Our people have to work very hard to receive Nature’s bounties unlike our counter parts in the South. 

So we are already separate but we are part of this Island brought together as one administrative unit since 1833. As a group of people having distinct language, areas of residence, common culture we are a Nation in terms of UN Covenants and International law. We are entitled to self-determination.

What your friends among Sinhalese who write about me think is that I advocate external self-determination. That is what the LTTE advocated. I do not advocate external self-determination. I advocate internal self-determination. It is the inability of many Sinhalese to understand this difference which has created so much of antipathy towards the Tamils including me. They think I am a traitor having been born and bred in the South I advocate external self-determination. I DON’T. I advocate federalism a political innovation to unite disparate units. In fact I am interested in ensuring the integrity of this Island, preserving its unity, assuring equality among all communities and hoping for economic regeneration for the whole Country enabled by the different communities walking together hand in hand but as equals. Today that equality is lacking. When you give greater importance to the language and religion of the majority community naturally all those who do not speak that language nor belong to that religion become secondary citizens. That is why most Countries advocate secularism.

The interesting fact about our problem is that the North and East were always Tamil speaking. In ancient times they were Saivaite. After introduction of Buddhism there was a period when Buddhism flourished among the “Demala Baudayo”. But centuries ago the Tamils reverted back to Saivaism. And later Islam and Christianity took root among certain sections of the Tamils of North and East. There were no Sinhalese in existence then. 

There never was a time when the Sinhalese occupied the North and East in large numbers. The Sinhala names now being bandied about for Tamil places of worship or residence were coined in recent times. A good example is Manal Aru. All registers during  Dutch or English times and even after independence for about 30 years, the name Manal Aru appears. Suddenly the official registers refer to Weli Oya a translation of the Tamil name. Now the talk is that the area was always Weli Oya but the Cholas in the Tenth Century changed the Sinhala name to Tamil Manal Aru. This is preposterous! There was no Sinhala presence in Manal Aru except until recent State colonization of that area, when Sinhalese were brought there from elsewhere. In everything there is a tendency by certain ultra-Sinhala units among the Sinhalese to say Sri Lanka was always Sinhalese and the Tamils are recent immigrants from outside. 

This idiotic statement does not hold water after recent excavations of archaeological findings. There is no doubt that the original inhabitants of this Island were Tamil speaking Saivites. 

Firstly there were no Sinhalese at the time Buddhism was introduced to the Island. The Tamil king Deva Nampiya Theesan received the tenets of Buddhism from Mahinda Thera. 

Secondly the language that was introduced after Buddhism took root was Pali. There was no Sinhala language then in existence. Mahawansa, the fiction written for the glorification of Buddhism was in Pali. 

Thirdly the Sinhala language came into being, into usage as a language only in the 6th or 7th century AD. 

Fourthly to refer to Sinhala Buddhists before the birth of the Sinhala language is preposterous. There was Buddhism but not Sinhalese before 6th or 7th Century AD. 

Fifthly the historical evidence of the antiquity of the Tamils have now surfaced copiously since the time Professor Indrapala referred to “permanent Tamil settlements” during the time of the Cholas in his first book.

Sixthly the Sinhala diehards have been trying to prevent the surfacing of evidence which showed the antiquity of Tamil language and the permeation of Tamils in the North and East but they have lost the Battle now!

Now let me come to your question.

1. There is a misconception and misinterpretation among the Sinhalese about the statements I have issued in the recent past regarding self-determination, war crimes’ investigation, Buddhism and Shavendra Silva. I hope in the light of what I have said above this misconception would be corrected.

2. I am not asking for a separate state but for a federal system based on the merged North and East within an undivided Sri Lanka.

3. All my statements regarding Buddhism and the Sinhalese are based on historical truth. Historical truths should never be denied in a democracy. If my conclusions are wrong let us have an International group of historians writing our history. Their charges could be shared between the Sinhala majority government and Tamil majority Sri Lankan Diaspora. 

4. Tamils’ right of self-determination in the merged North and East is a legal right. Tamils are a nation in Sri Lanka because they are indigenous to a particular territory consisting of the Northern and Eastern Provinces, and thus my argument is that the Tamils have the right of internal self-determination. My conviction is that accepting Tamils as a nation and granting them maximum devolution within a federal set up in the merged North and East in an undivided Sri Lanka will give rise to highly stable coexistence and peace in Sri Lanka and make this country a wonderful place to live in. We could leave aside all the tensions and hatred of the past and start up a saner living for the peace and prosperity of this Island. 

5. Sinhala people are kept in the dark without awareness of the rights of the Tamil people and the true history of the Tamils- this is a huge hindrance to peace in Sri Lanka.

6. There is clearly a portrayal of Tamils as ‘enemy’ by certain elements among Sinhala community. As a result, opposition to devolution and policies to assist ethnic harmony is on the rise in Sri Lanka and prejudice and hostility towards Tamils have increased manifold. Only truth can heal this – only truth can make this country a better and safer place for everyone. This is why I am insisting for an international independent war crimes’ investigation and communicating in Sinhala with Sinhala communities about our history and our rights. If after proper inquiry it is found that Shavendra Silva committed no wrong the Tamils will have nothing against him.

7. Some people are running propaganda against me to create a threat perception for national security. I love this country as much as anyone else in this Island. But for one community to control and dominate others in the Country is traitorous. That is not patriotism. 

8. I have read some articles written by Sinhala writers saying I am advocating a separate Thamil Eelam. This is a perceived threat not the truth. This is also politics- some people exploit this threat construction to play vote bank politics and consolidate the voters by creating supposed enemies. I hope after the coming Parliamentary Election the diehard Sinhala Buddhists will correct themselves and their ways.  

My humble request of my Sinhala brethren especially the Buddhists is for them to ask the question why would a man of 80 years who had been in the forefront to establish a Congress of Religions while still a young lawyer, who had been speaking at Amity Meetings for a long time to bring about amity among communities and religions want to start a separatist movement in the North and East? I have no need to separate human beings on the basis of ethnicity nor religion. My interest is to bring amelioration to my people who have been suffering from around 1956 having lost their equality in that year. Sinhala chauvinism and Sinhala Buddhist hegemony have made our people lose hope and purpose in their life. Discrimination still goes on. 

I have taken upon me the task of re-establishing the rights of the Tamil speaking. Even if I were to be taken into custody and threatened I will say only this. Please accept the Tamils as your equals. The problem then will end. If you don’t do so persons like me who give prominence to Truth and Human Values will go on agitating come what may. Let not anyone think by death threats and cajoling and bribing our love for this Island, our language, our culture and our individually could be diminished or denied. 

*Justice C.V. Wigneswaran, Former Chief Minister, Northern Province, Secretary General, Tamizh Makkal Kootanii and Co- Chairman, Tamizh Makkal Peravai

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    Tamil politicians, like the Muslim politicians – Hizbulla and Bathudeen who were behind the Easter Carnage with US and Saudi funds have become the Cat’s paw of the biggest Rogue state in the world that wants to Divide Lanka’s ethnic and religious communities, and set up US and NATO military “lily pad” bases in Trincomalee, Mannar and Batticaloa districts and get SOFA and MCC signed.

    USAID experts like Prasad Kariayasam in the name of National Govt, for FAKE ethnic reconciliation turned the parliament into a UNP-SLFP Corruption racket, with politicians being bribed with duty free cars and perks, so MCC project to land grab could pass smoothly while Sambanthan, Sumanthiran, Wiggy and the corrupt Muslim politicians are used to divide and rule.

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      Of course, US puppets Bondscam Ranil, Mangy and the butterflies and US citizens, Gota and Basil on the other hand, are also part of the USAID-MCC project to turn Lanka into
      1. a Cesspit of Corruption
      2. import garbage from US-UK illegal Diego Garcia military base and burn it in Mutturajawela,
      3. cause fake disasters and forest fires
      4. flood Lanka with Drugs
      5. Weaponized ethnic and religious identity politics
      6. use biological war and virus attacks like Corona and locausts
      in order to Divide, distract, debt trap and attack the economy and colonize Lanka and Asia too!
      Long live Miracle of Modayas!

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        Yeah, and the third pillar of the US attack on Lanka in order to colonize the island and set up military bases is the attack on National institutions and governance structures – particularly the debilitation of the Provincial Council system.
        The destruction of the PC system which was set up by Indian intervention to empower Tamils and other minorities in Sri Lanka is part of the MCC and USAID land grab project for the Colombo Trinco corridor. This is a matter that India should take up and Moda Modi raise this with his idiot pal Trump visits next week!
        Obviously, the corrupt Tamil politicians and TNA are silent about the failure to hold PC elections because they take orders from and are paid off by the USA!
        PCs have been destroyed for the MCC’s Development (Special Provisions) Bill and before that Divineguma Bill, both of which were rejected by PCs and meant to enable land grabbing.
        PCs with their control over land powers denied the MCC project to land grab and hence there have not been any PC elections in the past 5 years.
        The destruction of the PC system to empower Tamils and other minorities in Sri Lanka by MCC and USAID is a matter that India should take up and Moda Modi raise this with his idiot pal Trump next week!
        Obviously, the corrupt Tamil politicians and TNA are silent about the failure to hold PC elections because they take orders from and are paid off by the USA!

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          Northern and Eastern are two of nine. Which is less than quarter so why should the Tamil politicians or TNA worry about it when the others are not?

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        Dinuk
        When you wake up tomorrow you can look forward to Gotabaya still be President and you will still be a winging looser. By the way any other theories about the Corona virus ,
        Have you ever tried a Corona Beer may be time for you have a couple and learn to chill before you explode.

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        This should be translated into sinhala for a ordinary sinhala buddhist to be understand in their terms and conditions….or otherwise tamil leaders go deep in sinhala villages to let them know about what is really wanted by tamils.otherwise these words always mistranslated by those who really want separate among etnics for their own political agenda.

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      Justice CV is the mirror image of the Rajapaksas. The ultra-nationalist Sinhalese Buddhists spawned Tamil separatism and vice versa. This particular article of Justice CV is ok despite errors (Devanampiya Tissa was Sinhalese, not Tamil; Sri Lankahad no indigenous peoples except for the Veddahs) but is still a rehash of Tamil nationalist rhetoric, a mirror image of Sinhalese Buddhist rhetoric. I blame the Bandaranaikes and Rajapaksas for all this. We are in for stormy weather due to divisive domestic polarization, a shaky economy and external interference. Blame Mahinda on all counts although Justice CV is a tin pot demagogue himself.

      We need more Ameer Ali and Rajan Philips to reintroduce balance in our analysis.

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        Dear Tissaveerasingham,
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        It is difficult for me
        to evaluate all this since I have so little insight into Tamil culture, no knowledge whatever of the Tamil language.
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        As far as I’m concerned, I feel that the Bandaranaikes rang in necessary changes. I know that many “English Speakers” will disagree, but the guys who really ruined our country were J.R. Jayawardena and the Rajapaksas.
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        I’ve never had anything to do with Justice C.V. Wigneswaran, but I don’t think that you should equate the man with our “National Leader” horrors. Those guys have equated being “Sri Lankan” with being Sinhalese_Buddhists. I fear that some Tamils feel duty-bound to run down all Tamil leaders. No doubt the likes of Prabhakaran were horrible terrorists, but as you say, “spawned” by our fellows.
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        I will not dare recommend any guy as your “best” leader. The only problem with Wiggie and Sampandan is that they are old. However, I bless them for existing!
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        Panini Edirisinhe (NIC 48 3111 444V, aka Sinhala_Man)

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          Deva Nampiya Tissa(n) may or may not have a Tamil ancestry, but certainly he is not Sinhalese. According to Mahavamsa, Vijaya and his men after killing Kuveni and subduing other chieftains set up a kingdom in Anuradhapura. We know that Vijaya was a Bengali and not Sinhalese and he married a Pandyan princess. So his children will be Bengali-Tamil mix and not Sinhalese. Subsequently those who ascended the throne continued this process of taking Pandyan brides. Therefore the progeny will be a mix of diluted Bangali and augmented Tamil. Father of Deva Nampiya Tissa(n) is Mootasiva (a Tamil name meaning elder Siva) which also denotes that he was a Saivite. Deva is a Sanskrit word which is also used in Tamil while Nampiya is a pure Tamil word meaning believer and Tissa(n) is also a name found in ancient Tamil Nadu. He was a Saivite till his conversion to Buddhiam. When there is no genetic factor or cultural profile to point at a Sinhala nationality, on what grounds do you say that he is Sinhala, when Mahavamsa itself does not call them Sinhala kings. Moreover Sinhala language at that time had not developed to be used for administration and stone inscriptions found are either in ancient Sanskrit or Tamil forms. The first time a stone inscription had appeared was 1300 years ago that too with borrowed Malayalam script. Secondly to say that Sri Lanka had no indigenous people except Veddhas shows ignorance. Before 100,000 years there were no inhabitants. Veddhas are descendants of African migrants who came to the land 60,000 years ago. So technically they are also not indigenous but the first inhabitants. The next set of migrants are Dravidians who settled here when Sri Lanka and Tamil Nadu were a single land mass. Presence of urn burial sites and potsherds similar to those found in Tamil Nadu are proof of it.

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            Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam,
            Usual BS! ‘Para’ Demala historians ran around all over the world to find some evidence to support their bogus claim ‘Traditional Homeland’ because they could not find any historical evidences in Sinhale. Demala historians Prof. S. Arasaratnam, Prof. K. Indrapala and Dr. Gunasingam tried and failed. Are you trying to do what those people failed to do? Demalu cannot fool the International Community anymore. Their lies have been exposed.

            98% of Demalu in Sinhale are the descendants of slaves brought by colonial parasites who were given citizenship initially by Registration by Native Sinhalayo. Vigie himself is a descendant of a slave brought from Hindusthan.

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            During the early historic period, Lanka (as first mentioned in the Ramayana) was a part of South India separated by a shallow sea and was only a walking distance before the sea levels rose. Even today, one of the ancient bridges between South India and Sri Lanka can be seen in the NASA shuttle images. During that period, irrespective of whether they were actually Yakkhas, Nagas, Rakshas, or any others (veddas), all these tribes were Saivaite Dravidians (devotees of Lord Siva/Saivaism) who not only lived in both Sri Lanka and South India but they were also moving back and forth between Sri Lanka and South India. All the ancient rulers of Sri Lanka before the arrival of Buddhism were also Saivaites (worshipping Lord Siva). The Pali chronicles leave us in no doubt that the worship of Siva was prevalent in Anuradhapura and elsewhere in the island. The numerous occurrences of the personal name Siva in the early Brahmi inscriptions also support this. Even Ravana was believed to be a Dravidian chieftain and a strong devotee of Lord Siva. During the early historic period, the Island of Sri Lanka was not a Dhamma Deepa of Buddha but a Siva Bhoomi (Land of Siva). As confirmed by Dr. Paul E. Pieris, in the ‘five corners’ of the island Lanka, there were five ancient historical Ishwara temples of Lord Siva (Nuguleswaram, Munneswaram, Koneswaram, Tondeswaram, and Katheeswaram). Even today, if they dig/excavate deep in any part of Sri Lanka, the archeology department could find only Statues of Lord Siva, some of them that were already found are kept in the museum while many got disappeared/lost. There was NO Buddhism in Sri Lanka until Emperor Asoka’s missionary monks led by Mahinda Thero converted the Saivaite Dravidian/Tamil King Muta Siva’s second son Thissa (his real Saiva name is not known) to Buddhism in the 2nd century BC.

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              Most of the so called ‘Sinhala’ kings of Sri Lankan right from Vijaya were from Kalinga (Bengal-Orissa-Telugu region) and the Tamil Kings who ruled Sri Lanka were from Chola/Pandya (Tamil) region. The core territory of Kalinga (a historical region of India) now encompasses a large part of Odisha, Southern part of Bengal and Northern part of Andhra Pradesh (Telugu). All the ancient rulers of Sri Lanka (Kalinga/Chola/Pandya) before the arrival of Buddhism were Hindu Saivaites (including Vijaya).
              Only after king Devanampiya Thissa accepted and converted to Asoka’s Buddhism, a large number of Saivaite Dravidian tribes in the island embraced Buddhism, Aryanised/Prakritised their speech, learned to write using Asoka Bhrami script, adopted the Lion symbol (the Indian Lion which represents the accomplishment of Buddha), accepted the Asoka Buddhist culture and implemented Asoka’s technology to build Stupas, Chaitya, Viharas, Sangharama, and so on.
              However, after his conversion to Buddhism, Devanampiya Thissa’s proclamation that he was the King of Sri Lanka and his efforts to force the people of the country to accept Buddhism was rejected by the Vanni chieftains who were strong devotees of Lord Siva. Saivaite Dravidian/Tamil rivalry against Buddhism began in 177 BC during the reign of Thissa’s younger brother Sura Thissa. Two Saivaite Tamils, Sena and Kuttika (none of the Pali chronicles call them invaders) defeated Sura Thissa in battle and conquered Anuradhapura and ruled it for 22 years. Anuradhapura kingdom was under Saivaite threat for the next 149 years ending in 88 BC. Eight Saivaite Tamil kings ruled Anuradhapura for a total of 82 years during that period. Mahavamsa calls them (other than Sena and Kuttika) invaders.
              While Mahanama Thero (author of Mahavamsa) was whipping up Theravada Buddhist Nationalism by portraying the Saivaite Tamils as invaders and portraying Dhatusena’s 16-year struggle to push them out of Sri Lanka as a heroic act, Dhatusena’s favourite son Moggallan fled to Tamil Nadu and returned with a huge Tamil army and defeated his half-Tamil/Pallava step brother Kassapa in 491 AD.

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            If Mahavamsa is to be believed then the fact that Sinhalese came from a Lion also should be believed…

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              Thttps://web.archive.org/web/20110719172604/http://www.beyondthenet.net/medit/esalacover.htmhis about Buddhist Jaffna – much more recent.

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            Dr Gona

            you talk high not knowing King Vijaya had not children & Pandians were Aryans later on they used Tamils.

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              Latha

              Pandiyans were Aryans obviously you are on some substance aren’t you ? When did the Tamils become aryans ?

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          Dear Panini,
          Yes Bandaranaikes rang in necessary changes, but it was only for the benefit of Sinhalese. When SWRD made Sinhala only as official language he said that he wants the Sinhalese to understand how he is being governed. He failed to realize that the same rule applies to Tamils also, because they also were in the dark when English was used to govern them, and that they will be continuing to be in the dark when Sinhala is going to be used to govern them. Worse thing SWRD did was to unleash indiscipline. His wife introduced discrimination in education in the form of standardization, and in employment both recruitment and promotion. Wide scale bribery started during her regime of 1970 – 1977 which is also the worst period of economic disaster. In contrast JRJ had the best chance to convert Sri Lanka to another Singapore. He started his economic policy well which led to prosperity with which came widespread corruption. He failed miserably in tackling Tamil demand by unleashing terror twice and paid the price of being the only head of state during whose regime the sovereignty of the country was breached. Rajapakse brothers though with international support brought the war to an end, but due to their inborn racism, failed to win the peace. Though political killings were started by Premadasa, it became massive during MRs regime. Though corruption was begun during JRJs regime, it became massive during MRs time. What is going to happen is anybody’s guess as again the same murderous swindling gang have got power. Killing of civilians and dissidents amounts to terrorism whoever commits, and if you assess in a fair manner, Sri Lanka government is the worst terrorist.

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            PART ONE
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            Dear Gnana,
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            I agree with all your observations. I was trying to keep the issue simple.

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            I’m wracking my brains as to how to checkmate the Thomian Pharisees, so I didn’t want to write too much here. If you scroll down the comments on this Siri Gamage article, you will find the last nine to be by me. If I write a new article, I will inevitably be pilloried for letting the alma mater down.
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            Far from it; it was my Belgian neighbour (non-Christian) and I who rescued the school in 2007. It is likely that you may even cry if you were to know all that has befallen me owing to my stubbornly holding on to the truth as I see it.
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            https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/expanding-university-education-argument-for-an-asian-model-to-promote-eastern-knowledge/
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            I think that I must further eulogize the Colpetty Headmaster, and checkmate the Pharisees who run the two Uva schools. It is within your grasp to understand the situation in the two idyllically placed hill country schools, by just following the links that I have provided.

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            PART TWO
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            I also owe a huge “thank you” to Colombo Telegraph
            for allowing me to use my wits to keep this issue in the public domain. In 2016, I trusted the Pharisees and exposed only after the events which took place on the Ides of March.
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            This time, I’ve got to ensure that no cheating takes place on the 4th of March 2020. “Them” trying to cheat back on to the Board of Governors, a guy who hasn’t even sat his O. Levels is absolutely true. The guy cheated in 2012 and in 2016, and a third effort is now being made. However, those will never be the grounds for my objections. At no election should there be a bar to contesting on grounds of literacy, ethnicity, caste, or religion. Well, here, these being Christian schools, there’s good reason on the insistence of it being a Christian. It has been decreed that 80% of the Board be Anglican, and only An Act of Parliament can change that.
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            http://www.commonlii.org/lk/legis/consol_act/stc489223.pdf
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            I was about to say that this is a bit off-topic, but, no. Wiggie was a fine Supreme Court judge and may know this most readable judgement:
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            https://www.lawnet.gov.lk/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/009-SLLR-SLLR-2000-V-1-EKSITH-FERNANDO-v.-MANAWADU-AND-OTHERS-ST.-THOMAS-COLLEGE-CASES.pdf
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            I think that I’d better warn you that it will take you a long for you to plough through all that material.
            Please feel free to direct any query at me should you be puzzled by aspects of “this strange case”.

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            Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam,
            “His wife introduced discrimination in education in the form of standardization, and in employment both recruitment and promotion.”

            ‘Para’ Malabar Wellala Demalu who studied in missionary schools licked the a@s of Brits and entered into Government Service in large numbers. Brits who had ‘Divide and Rule’ policy also encourage that. At the time Brits left the country, Government Service, Medical, Engineering and Science Faculties in the University were flooded with Demalu. Sinhalayo were oppressed and discriminated by Brits with the help from ‘Para’ Wellala Demalu. Standardization was introduced to eliminate this anomaly. Due to Standardization, Wellala Demalu in Yapanaya got negatively affected but Demalu in Tirikunamale, Madakalapuwa and in plantations got benefitted. Wellala Demalu in Yapanaya did not want to see Daliths in Yapanaya and Demalu from other places going up in the ladder.


            Attempts by Native Sinhalayo who were oppressed by colonial rulers to gain their true independence not only from Brits but even from ‘Para’ Wellala Demalu were depicted to the International Community as discrimination by ungrateful BPs.

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          Good comment, Panini….CV Wigneswaran has been an exemplary judge. Sadly, we do not have his calibre of judges in the present judiciary. I am sure that he would not make comments on such an issue unless he has done a thorough research into the subject matter. He is asking for ‘internal’ self-determination for the Tamils and not a separate state. So what’s wrong with that? Switzerland is a Federal Republic with several Cantons and appears to be one of the best governed countries in the world. Giving the Northern Tamils internal self-determination is better than having a community which is suspicious of the majority and which could once again lead to civil unrest in the future. If the Sinhalese are so petty minded to deny the Tamils the right to sing the national anthem in Tamil, when Tamil is also a national language, cohabitation with the Sinhalese, must be terrible for the Tamils.

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        So Rajapaksa and Bandaranaike to be blamed for Wiggie’s ultra racism? In other words, Sinhalese are to be blamed for Tamils racism, terrorism, etc….

        When will Tamils grow up?

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          Why cant ask yourselves same question old lady ?

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          Sach,

          These days Lankawe needs foreign election monitors after Siri Mao started stuffing ballot boxes and unleashes massive violence on Election Day to ensure her victory. But still election is cheated in all possible cases, by ruling party dodging if the margin to victory is small. Now, all the court cases are done with Dosa flipping, under the Sinhala Jury Only Verdict. All terrible Sinhala Buddhist criminals are released, but if it is a Tamil, 25 years under PTA, no lawyer allowed. Before these Sinhala Buddhist inventions in law and order, in 1970, Police Department installed a program that the ASP will be rewarded prize if his area is leading in low crime. Throughout the history of that that program, only one area won the prize; it was North. The Margin was too high so the usual election manipulation game did not work. So Police department abolished the program, instead of labeling the Tamils as the most peaceful citizens of the land. So why are you struggling to carry the Tamils’ terrorism on your shoulder while you miserably failed to control the simple crimes and took away Police department’s program? Give Tamils their land with them and see what is going. But all JVPyers in the government (Old King, New King, Ponny…) will burn down the Lankawe like Hanuman did. Remember, it was ASP Shanmugam protected Siri Mao during first JVP’s terrorism.

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          Sach,

          When will Tamils grow up?

          Never!

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      Dinuk,
      If you investigate properly the Easter bombing you will find who was behind that bombing. You will find that there was a close relationship between Rajapakse family and Easter Bombers. Easter bombers are trained and funded by these political opportunistic. Why the bombers not targeted Buddhist Sinhala? Who are the Buddhist Sinhala attacked Muslims? Do you all the bombers are from Katankudi village which is fully associated with Hisbullah who contested presidential election on behalf of Gotabaya. Can you deny any of these?

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        Cardinal who criticized previous presidential commission is now saying that he is not happy with the current one too. Obviously truth cannot come out because top Sinhala politicians on both sides approved of it for various reasons. After the war ended, MR/Gota funded and supported Muslim terrorists to attack Tamils in eastern province. They were helped by Pakistani intelligence agencies who were working with Muslims in the east to foment hatred between Tamils and Muslims. MR/Gota gave a dead rope to MS and got him to consent for this bombing. These terrorists were waiting to attack Buddhists, but Pakistani intelligence agents brain washed them to attack Catholics. When father of Harin Fernando lying in bed was aware of it being told by a friend in CID, statement of Ranil that he did not know about it., is a blatant lie. Just as MR/Gota wanted to use it to topple the government and usurp power, Ranil and his gang wanted it to take take the pressure off UNHCR demands. Now CID says that they are looking out for four Maldivians connected with the bombing, who are none other than Pakistani agents. Still no Muslim politician, businessmen or professional who have had a hand with this have been arrested as many top Sinhala politicians and security officials have received massive payouts from them. If the former army commander can somersault by going against his previous statement to the press, how do you expect junior persons to be honest.

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      @Dinuk, the Easter carnage is the work of Gota and his gang of murderers. Stop hoodwinking people by diverting attention elsewhere. The moment that happened I knew the Rajapaksas will be back in power. Look at the state of the country…………….look at the politicians and the educational qualifications they have…………………it is a disgrace these fellows are even allowed to walk around.

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        Tamil From the North,

        After that response in the other Column expressing your love for the Tamil people and hatred for Mr Piraharan people , now you write this rubbish about the Easter Disaster, which will go down in Mahavamsa History as the biggest Tragedies along side the LTTE Suicide Attacks since the Colonials relinquished their Rule..

        Even the Top Yahapalana ex Ministers and Governors Buthdeen , Rauf Hakeem, Kabir Hasheem Rahuman , Haleem , Assath Sally , Hesbolla who formed that Joint Protective Muslim Alliance and even Harin Fernando who saved his Life with that Tip Off didn’t have the Brains to come up with something like this..

        They will send you a Thank You Card for sure..

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          KA Sumanaya, I stated the facts. I do not specifically have love only for Tamil people. Don’t misquote what I said in the other column and twist the story. I love everyone in Lanka regardless of who they are, but one thing is he or she cannot be a racist, like you in particular.

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      C.V. Wigneswaran ,
      RE: My Humble Request To My Sinhala Brethren Especially The Buddhists
      The Para- Sinhala are the Brethren of Para-Tamils. That is correct. Data from molecular genetics of the mitochondrial DNA of Para-Sinhala and Tamils show that they are indeed Brethren and Paras in the Land of Native Veddagh Aethho,.
      Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people:
      https://www.nature.com/articles/jhg2013112
      Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.
      “Of course there was a time when the Tamils were Buddhists long time ago but in course of time they gave up Buddhism to go back to their old religion Saivaism. “
      So what happened? Historically, t he first 6 Para-Sinhala Kings and their subjects were NOT Para-Sinhala Para-Buddhists. With the introduction of Para-Buddhism from Bharat (India), the monk hegemony was established.. and the monks got the kings to donate 10 percent of the best fertile lands to the temples, for the perpetuation of monk hegemony.
      In addition, the monks established themselves, after hijacking of Buddhism, as the 3rd Gem of the Triple Gem, and established a tradition of requesting blessings from the Buddha , Dhamma ( teachings, philosophy), AND the monks. In addition, the monks established a tradition of prostration to the monks. So, the imbecilities, mean 79, compiled, and kept prostrating to monks, who were recruited as child monks, and got the monk training from the senior monks on their backs, similar to the Alter Boys got the training from the Catholic Priests.
      The politicians latched on to the monks, and manipulated the monks, promising hegemony, and got the Para-Sinhala Para-“Buddhists” to vote for those politicians.

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        Amanasiri,
        The article that you refer Ranaweera et. al. concluded that:
        “No definite association of the Sinhalese with any specific ethnic or linguistic groups of India was, however, detected in this study; thus, their exact immediate origin on the mainland remains yet to be confirmed.”

        According to Ranaweera et. al.:
        “The haplotypes and analysis of molecular variance revealed that Vedda people’s mitochondrial sequences are more related to the Sinhalese than the Indian Tamils’ sequences.”
        This means Sinhalayo and Vedda Eththo are relatives because they evolved in this country. The others in Sinhale are ‘Paras’.

        Source: Ranaweera, Lanka; Kaewsutthi, Supannee; Win Tun, Aung; Boonyarit, Hathaichanoke; Poolsuwan, Samerchai; Lertrit, Patcharee (2014). “Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: Their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations”. Journal of Human Genetics. 59(1): 28–36.

        Can tell the truth to the don key but cannot force the don key to accept the truth. Similar to the problem prevailed with Ancient Greeks.

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          Eagle Confused Eye, Eagle Amana Eye ,

          Please learn some molecular biology and molecular genetics. You will understand. Knowledge will decrease your ignorance.

          Still 25% of Americans and about 50 percent of the Paras in the Land of Native Veddad Aethho, including those imbeciles who prostrate to the monks, believe that the Sun goes around the Earth.

          https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/02/14/277058739/1-in-4-americans-think-the-sun-goes-around-the-earth-survey-says

          1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Survey Says

          A quarter of Americans surveyed could not correctly answer that the Earth revolves around the sun and not the other way around, according to a report out Friday from the National Science Foundation.

          The survey of 2,200 people in the United States was conducted by the NSF in 2012 and released on Friday at an annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science meeting in Chicago.

          To the question “Does the Earth go around the Sun, or does the Sun go around the Earth,” 26 percent of those surveyed answered incorrectly.

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            Amanasiri,
            “about 50 percent of the Paras in the Land of Native Veddad Aethho, including those imbeciles who prostrate to the monks, believe that the Sun goes around the Earth.”

            Imbeciles who prostrate to the monks do not belong to that 50% because they are Native Sinhalayo. That 50% should definitely be ‘Para’ Demalu who are the descendants of slaves with low IQ.

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      Sorry Vigneswaran. Given your anti-Sinhala rhetoric we will never support any of your plans.

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    Siw hella or sinhalese consist of four tribes. Raksaha, yakka, naga and Deva. When lumuria sunk there tribes survived in Sri Lanka and the Maldives. Tamils call this land Kumari kandam. During the Christian era Tamils who are largly from the naga tribe returned and failed to conquer the island. Sinhalese didn’t come from anywhere. They have been here from the time immorial. Vijaya captured anuradhapura. The monks of anuradhapura wrote about that region. It rarely mentions the rest of the country. The British wanted to prove that the Aryan went everywhere. And added sinhalese to the group using the mahavamsa. In reality sinhalese are proto dravidians with a considerable foreign admixtures.
    Also there are 26 Buddha’s not one. They originated in jambudwipa not India. Sri Lanka was small part of this land that lies beneth the ocean. Dwipa means island. India is call Bharat.

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      Hear hear to Uncle Wiggy! A lot of young Tamils in the south who have been subject to gradual cultural drain and Sinhalization are looking to connect with our cultural roots. I whole heartedly believe that you will spark the light to a Thamizh Renaissance.

      Even on social media I see a lot of 3rd and 4th Generation Indian Tamils visiting the old country and linking up with the folks back there! I hope that more Thamizh youth read the Sangam epic and take a pride in their rich heritage.

      As for the Christian Tamils they too have roots in the Early Chruch through the ministry of Apostle Thomas (who was martyred near Chennai) so the slandering them and calling them “lowborns who coverted” is a non argument.

      Tamil Buddhism is also significantly richer than the ethnocentric Buddhism practiced by the Sinhalese who imported it from Thailand and Burma. Boddhidharma, the founder of Zen Buddhism and Shaolin was a Pallava prince. 2 of the greatest epic of Tamil literature are Buddhist: The Mannimekali and Sillapadikaram

      It seems like the whole world is against the Thamizh, denying us the dignity like it did to the Jews, Irish and the Kurd. Its we will endure and prevail.

      They will try to take our language and erase our culture. But Tamils are bound by Blood and Spirit!

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        “As for the Christian Tamils they too have roots in the Early Church through the ministry of Apostle Thomas (who was martyred near Chennai) so the slandering them and calling them “lowborns who coverted” is a non argument.”

        Not quite. The myth of the Apostle Thomas and India is just that. It is derived from the Gospel of Thomas that the church has dismissed as a hoax where Thomas allegedly landed in what is today Baluchistan. The Portuguese revived the myth, adjusted it and the story caught on. Let’s go by the authentic Bible, not the pseudo-epigraphia.

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          You’ve obviously not heard of the Malankara Orthodox Church in Kerala or the proof of Nestorian Christians in the subcontient and the Silk Route. Some of don’t belive in the lies of the Papasits.

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            I agree with you on the Nestorians and the Silk route but not with the myth that the Apostle Thomas came to Kerala and was killed in Chennai. The Nestorians were a few centuries later.

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            2000 years ago there was no Malayalam Kerala but this area was Tamil Chera Nadu. These ancient Christians in Chera Nadu were Tamil Christians and not Malayali Christians. Everything ancient that modern day Keralites now boast as part of their culture or greatness , was not when Kerala was Malayalam but when it was Tamil. Including its martial arts form Kalari Payattu, It now preserved in modern day Kerala but originated in Tamil Kerala. Malayalam the daughter of middle Tamil only came into existence a few centuries ago. Even as recent as 1800s 85% of the population of present day Kerala were still speaking a form of Tamil that was written in the Tamil script . This was called Malayalama or Malabar Tamil. What is now called Malyalam was a highly Sanskritised dialect called Grantha Bhasha , This was written in the Tulu based Tilgari script. This was the language of the immigrant Namboothiri Brahmins who migrated to Kerala via Tulu Nadu , from North India. and their half caste Nair bastards. The rest of Kerala still spoke their form of Tamil. The Namboothioris and their Nair half caste bastards , were the allies of the British and at their insistence the British banned the use of the Tamil language or its local form Malayalama in Kerala and made the Sanskritised Grantha bhasha of the Namboothiris the official language of Kerala in 1830, they then cunningly renamed the Grantha Bhasha as Malayalam and as a sop the native Tamil population , introduced many Tamil/ Dravidian words into this new Malayalam. This is the reason simple spoken Malayalam sounds very much like Tamil , whereas the written form is very Sanskritised.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Tamil_Nadu
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Mary%27s_Church,_Thiruvithamcode

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        Easy E
        Around 1450 (much before the Portuguese arrived), King Parakrama Bahu VI of the Kotte Kingdom sent his adopted son prince Sapumal Kumaraya aka Chenpaga Perumal (who later became king Bhuvanekabahu VI) to wage a war against the Jaffna king Kanagasuriya Singai Aryan to capture the Jaffna kingdom. After invading Jaffna and taking over the Jaffna kingdom, Sapumal Kumaraya rebuilt Nallur, the Jaffna Kingdom’s capital and also rebuilt the Nallur Kandaswamy Temple (note that he did not build any Buddhist temples) for the people of Jaffna. The Royal city of Nallur was originally built with four entrances. There were two main roadways and four Madurai style temples at the four gateways.
        The present rebuilt temple that exist now do not match their original locations which instead are occupied by churches erected by the Portuguese. When the Portuguese occupied Jaffna after a fierce battle with the Jaffna king Cankili II, they not only demolished the Hindu temples and harassed the Hindus, but they also burnt down most of the artifacts that belonged to the Tamil Hindus. The ‘Saraswathy Mahal’ which was the Royal Library located in Nallur was also burnt down by the Portuguese. It contained more than 90’000 rare and unique ola/palmaryh leaves manuscripts and copper plate records. (Ila/Eela or Hela Tamils did not inscribe/engrave inscriptions on stones, instead they recorded everything on ola/palmaryh leaves and on copper plates).
        Whatever records that were found/collected later (ola/palmaryh leaves) were kept preserved in the Jaffna Library along with tens of thousands of books related to Tamil History, Science, Poems and lyrics, Novels, Theology and Astrology. Some of them that were translated by Arumuga Navalar, Thamotharam Pillai and Saminathaiyar were also kept in the Jaffna Library. All gone in smoke once again, completely destroyed this time by the Sinhalese mobs under JR Jayawardena’s government to deliberately and systematically erase all the evidences of the past Tamil presence in the island.

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          There was no Jaffna Kingdom in 1450. It was part of the Vijayanagar Empire of Karnataka. It was part of the Kannada rule and certainly not a Tamil kingdom. SL kings were okay with the arrangement with Kannada kings until 1450.

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            Another lying Sinhalese deliberately misinterpreting histoty. Politically, the Jaffna kingdom was an expanding power in the 13th and 14th century with all regional kingdoms paying tribute to it. However, it met with simultaneous confrontations with the Vijayanagar empire that ruled from Vijayanagara, southern India, and a rebounding Kingdom of Kotte from the south of Sri Lanka. This led to the kingdom becoming a vassal of the Vijayanagar Empire as well as briefly losing its independence under the Kotte kingdom from 1450 to 1467. The kingdom was re-established with the disintegration of Kotte kingdom and the fragmentation of Vijayanagar Empire It maintained very close commercial and political relationships with the Thanjavur Nayakar kingdom in southern India as well as the Kandyan and segments of the Kotte kingdom. This period saw the building of Hindu temples and a flourishing of literature, both in Tamil and Sanskrit. Stop lying Sinhalese racist or twist history . The Jaffna kingdom only lost its independence for a brief period . Good one. Sinhalese extremists are well known for their cunning lying ways.

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            Thinker

            Get your bloody facts right about Vijayanagara empire. The founder Kirishna devarayar was not a Kannadiga but a TULU. during the Vijayanagara empire Tamil, Telugu and Kannada were the court languages. Malayalam had still not broken away from Tamil. Primarily Telugus who intermingled with the Tamils ruled the empire as in Kandy and Madurai.

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          All scholars have been well aware since the 19th century that Tamils in Srilanka did not possess any ancient literature. But after the library fire in 1981 Tamils started claiming that there were thousands of ancient Tamil manuscripts in the library! Its a joke.
           
          Mudaliyar Rasanayagam in his book “Ancient Jaffna” (1926) says:
          In order to reconstruct the history of Jaffna from its earliest times, it becomes necessary to examine critically our ancient traditions in the light of contemporary documents, and in the absence of any local literature and inscriptions, to search for further information in the literature and chronicles of other countries. In this respect Mahavansa is most useful. It is a Court chronicle containing the annals of the Ceylon kings, and its writers who most probably regarded the Tamils as a horde of cruel marauders pass over both them and their efforts in silence, except when they made themselves too unpleasant to go unnoticed. ”
           
          “….. His authorities were certain earlier writings such as the Kailaya Malai, Vaiya Padal, Pararajasekaran Ula and Raja Murai (Royal Chronicles), the oldest of which was certainly not earlier than the 14th or the 15th century A D.

           
          It is very easy to spot Tamil propaganda – No names of these imaginary ancient manuscripts are ever mentioned. Mysteriously none of them have been copied either. If any ancient manuscripts were found the first thing that is done is copying and cataloguing them and then they will be kept in the national archives and not in a public library which did not have any facilities to preserve ancient documents. So stop your stupid lies. Also it was the LTTE who burnt the public library.

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              My comment seems to have been removed for no reason short and sweet . Sinhalese extremists as usual are misquoting Rasanayagam . What he meant by Sinhala or Sinhalam or Chingkala people are not the modern Sinhalese or their language but the original Elu speaking Dravidian people eg the Naga/Yakka. Read further he states Elu was a simple dialect and proper Tamil was used at that time by the kings and the court. There was no Sinhalese language . Even when so called Prince Vijaya and his companions arrived , they could have not introduced their language or changed the language of the people but would have started speaking the local language. By the time Buddhism arrived the language of the island would have been a mixture of the local Elu( which itself is a simple semi Tamil dialect) Proper Tamil and the language of these few Kalinga immigrant. Basically a Tamil dialect. Elu was a simple dialect and could not have faced the onslaught of Tamil , Sanskrit and Pali . The former arrived with Tamil immigrants to the island from prehistoric to ancient times the latter with the arrival of Buddhism . It was only after the arrival of Buddhism a new language started to evolve with a strong Elu/Tamil foundation and a Pali/Sanskrit superstructure. It took around 1500 for this new language to fully evolve to a literary level, until them Tamil was still the language of the courts and used for everything and was still used even after Sinhalese became the court language. With the migration of Vanniars from South India and their rule in the north central area , the people of the north and east diverged and evolved along the Tamil lines and kept their Tamil identity. Whereas in the south the new Sinhalese identity and nation really started to evolve and expand , even absorbing into themselves millions of pure Tamils who lived down south , especially after the Cholas left.

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        “2 of the greatest epic of Tamil literature are Buddhist: The Mannimekali and Sillapadikaram”
        Mannimekali yes; Sillapadikaram no. It is Kundalakesi (which has much in common with the Pali epic Therigatha).
        As for reading Sangam literature, no one can understand much of it without a glossary and a guide to Tamil grammar of the time.
        Tamils have been made to dwell on the past for too long. It is time that they are persuaded to look at the present and plan for the future.

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      niro,

      What are you smoking, ganja or any other kind of pot/weed? Whatever you are smoking seems to help you in hallucinate beyond the wildest dreams. Keep smoking and keep writing/hallucinating, absolutely hilarious and entertaining…

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      Niro,
      Who are these so called ‘Hela’ tribes that the Tamils call ‘Eela’ or ‘ila’ tribes?
      Are you referring to Yaksha, Naga, Deva and Rakshasa? If you read all the ancient Indian (Hindu, Buddhist & Jain) texts such as the Vedas, Upanishads, Ramayana, Mahabaratha, Jataka, Bagawath Geetha, etc, etc, you will find that in every text (both North and South Indian) the tribes Yaksha, Naga, Deva, Rakshasa and many more are mentioned not as Sri Lankans or Siv hela but as Indian tribes. How did the Indian Yaksha, Naga, Deva, Rakshasa get into the Mahavamsa (Sri Lanka)? The Mahavihara monks who wrote the Mahavamsa has done a copy-and-paste job. They have copied the Indian Yaksha, Naga, Deva, Rakshasa tribes and converted them into native Sri Lankan Hela tribes. There is NO archeological/epigraphic evidence in Sri Lanka regarding the so called Siv Hela (four tribes) Deva, Naga, Yaksha, Rakshasa. Also, Yaksha, Naga, Raksha and Deva were mentioned in the Mahavamsa as non-human beings. The only tribe original/native to Sri Lanka is the Veddas. The Sinhalese are nothing but decedents of Barath Vijaya and his men from Hindustan. Please read the Mahavamsa, it very clearly says in Chapter VII, “Sihabahu (Vijaya’s father), since he had slain the lion (was called) Sinhala and, by reason of the ties between him and them, all those (followers of Vijaya) were also (called) Sinhala”. Also, please read the Indian texts (Epics, Puranas and the Jatakas) to find out more about these tribes.

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        ” How did the Indian Yaksha, Naga, Deva, Rakshasa get into the Mahavamsa “

        Mahanama was a Telugu Pundit. He was well versed in most of the books you mentioned. Actually in Kanchi, where he studied, at the start of its debut, all books were taught, without any difference. That is why you see Ilango, Thiru Valluvar, and Thirunavukkarasar like famous pundits were showing their multi religious knowledge in their writings. They never condemned any religions; rather they adored all religions. But if you noticed Thirugnanasampanthar, he is saying, “Kundikai Kaikalarodu Saakkiyar Koodamum Kooda” . He is straightaway condemning other religions because he gained all his knowledge himself (or from the Brahmin father-mother) by three years, did not go to a magnificent place like Kanchi. So his etiquette did not match with the slick ones I mentioned earlier. He quickly annoyed the other dangerous religious people. That is one of the reason the Jains burned him alive in his wedding shed with the bride and guests. These marvelous institutions, when they lost purpose they brought out very high violence. Kanchi too lost its balance toward the end and the educationist became very violent. So Mahanama who get out of Tamil Nadu was too very violent extremist. His writing exposes it. It is not sure how many people were burned in Thirugnanasampanthar’s wedding. But considering his popularity, attendees and the deaths could a very high toll. So Hindus revenged back by hanging 8,000 Jain pundits. It continued until the Jainism and Buddhism which were teaching hates were wiped out of Tamil Nadu. Thirunavukkarasar’s Bhakti Marga spared out all over India and wiped Buddhism completely out of India. Mahanama like few sought refuge in Ceylon (Eelam). So, many newcomers were not speaking Tamil, unlike it was in Ceylon. These Telugu, Kanada, Northern India newcomers used Pali and Sanskrit for communication and teaching. That is how, after 6th century Sinhala was born. But Eagle the Blind Eye has idea about the truth. (Other than Naga Tamils race, others are myth)

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          Mallaiyuran

          The four ancient tribes of Sri Lanka that the Sinhalese quote from the Mahavamsa and a few other texts as Siv-Hela (four Hela) are Deva, Naga, Yaksha, and Rakshasa. Their theory goes as (Siv + Hela = Sinhala). How did “Siv-hela” (four Hela tribes) become “Sinhala”? First of all, there is no any historical evidence to prove that the term ‘hela’ was used to denote any race or country. On the other hand the term ‘Siv-hela’ cannot be seen in any of the ancient inscriptions in Sri Lanka.

          In other words, there is NO archeological/epigraphic evidence in Sri Lanka regarding these four tribes and there is no evidence what so ever to prove either the Sinhalese or the Tamils descend from these four tribes called Siv Hela (Deva, Naga, Yaksha, and Rakshasa). In reality, ‘Yakkas’, ‘Nagas’, ‘Devas’ and ‘Rakshasa’ never existed in Sri Lanka (they may have lived in ancient India), it’s only a myth created by the Mahavamsa. Bottom line is that no one can for sure say anything about these tribes and therefore no point arguing about whether they became Sinhalese or Tamils because these are all made up stories.

          We got all of them as a part of the package when the Indian Tradition came over the Ocean. The adoption of Naga names during the early period was a fashion among local people (including kings) who had adopted the Indian Tradition. Yaksha, Naga, Raksha and Deva place names and people names does not prove that these tribes existed in Sri Lanka-South India region. People around the world always adopt names for self and places from their religious texts (Epics, Puranas, etc.).

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      If these so called tribes were there , they would have all been Dravidian speaking a semi or proto Tamil language like Elu. Definitely the boorish peasant Yakkas ( who largely evolved as Sinhalese ) and the elite Naga( the ancestors of most Sri Lankan Tamils) but definitely not Deva(gods or demi gods) or Rakshas( devils or evil spitits) , May be the Yakkas were also called Raksha due to their devil or evil spirit worshipping/appeasing practices, that is still found amongst many lower castes , rural and tribal communities in South India and Sri Lanka eg; sacrificing animals brutally in front of an evil or malevolent spirit to appease them , devil dancing, Kattadiya, Chevenai or Chuniyam. The various devil dancing and masks found in Kerala and Sri Lanka. The modern day Sinhalese are mixture of these indigenous Tamil or semi/proto Tamil speaking Dravidian tribes , some immigrants from NE India but largely from South Indian immigrants from the then Tamil country ( Tamil Nadu , Kerala , Southern Andhra and Karnataka) who came here is immigrants , invaders and were also invited by the local kings to settle down due to manpower shortage. This why the Sinhalese share a very high percentage of DNA with Indian Tamils ( 70%) . and the Sinhalese language vocabulary is 35-40% Tamil derived , despite all the deliberate Sanskritisation to prove a point, that it is of North Indian origin. Its syntax , lexicon , grammar and alphabet is 100% Tamil , a dead give away of its strong Dravidian foundation and origin. Eveything about the Sinhalese is Tamil and reflects the two Southern Indian states , Tamil Nadu and Kerala, the core ancient Tamil homeland in South India. Other than the initial one off migration from NE India, all migration to the island was from Tamil country in South India. These so called NE Indian genes would have been heavily diluted by the local indigenous Dravidian and South Indian immigrant Dravidian genes.

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      niro

      What is your point if there is one?

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      Niro,

      You are really confused, and have been brainwashed.Go with the data.

      The Sun rises from the East and Sets in the West, but does not mean that the Sun goes around the Earth.

      See Amarasiri’s post CV AWanigeswaran, and the link to The genetics paper.

      The Sinhala as well as the Tamils are Para-deshis, Paras for short, in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho.

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      Niro,
      As a descendant of a slave from Hindusthan brought to this country by colonial parasites, you have learnt history of Sinhale distorted by Kallathoni racist Chelvanayakam and his clique.

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        Eagle Brain Dead Blind Eye

        “As a descendant of a slave from Hindusthan brought to this country by colonial parasites, you have learnt history of Sinhale distorted by Kallathoni racist Chelvanayakam and his clique.”

        Why does Mahinda very often visit Hindu Temples in India?

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          Native Fake Vedda,
          “Why does Mahinda very often visit Hindu Temples in India?”

          Because Hindu Gods can be bribed.

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            Eagle Brain Dead Blind Eye

            “Because Hindu Gods can be bribed.”

            In return what does Mahinda from Hindu Gods?
            What did he receive from Hindu Gods in the past?

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    Also the word Ceylon comes from hela. The Arabs and Persian called it serendip. Which comes from hela diwa. The island of the hela people. These people have problem pronouncing the s and h sound. Just as Sri Lankans and Indians have with w and v. Hela became sela and in Latin – zeylan. Which became Ceylon. The perisans Civilization is over 6000 years.

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      Hela is the Prakrit/Pali a corruption of the ancient Tamil word for the island Eelam or Eezham meaning the land of toddy or metal. Ancient immigrants from this island to ancient Tamil Chera Nadu or present day Kerala are still called Eezhava and like the name Eelam are closely associated with toddy tapping. They are not called Helavas. It is because of them the culture and cuisine of Sri Lanka and Kerala are very similar. The habit of changing or adding H or B in front of original Tamil or Dravidian word is very common when Prakritisation takes place. In Kannada the original Tami work for milk Paal becomes Haalu. Tamil word entrance Vaasal becomes Baagilu. Tamil Elu becomes Hela . Serendib is a corruption of another ancient Tamil word for the island Cherantheevu meaing the land of the Naga. Cheran is another Tamil word for Naga( one of their modern descendants the Nairs) , This is why ancient Kerala was called Chera Nadu, as it was full of various Naga tribes. Ceylon is a nother corruption of the word Tamil word Eelam. Chingkalam was also another word that was used meaning the land with the red or copper coloured soil. The ancient Tamil or semi Tamil speaking Dravidian Naga and Yakka tribes were either called Eelavar/Eezhava or Chingkallavar. Just like the ancient Tamil speakers from the Chera, Chola and Pandian country were called Cherar, Cholar and Pandiar. It was later Prakritsed, to Sinhala and this stupid lion origin myth was soon brought in to justify this name. All these Tamil names have a meaning but not these so called Prakritised names. They are just gibberish so myths created to justify them. Even Lanka meaning the resplendent comes from the Tamil word Ilangu hence Ilangai meaning shinning , glittering or resplendent.

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        Remember the Sinhalese language and people only came into existence around the 6-7 AD before that they were evolving as a people from the various indigenous Dravidian Tamil , Semi Tamil speaking tribes and from immigrants from India , again largely from the then Tamil country and some from NE India. It evolved from the native Tamil dialect/proper Tamil and the Pali/Prakrit and Sanskrit of Buddhism. To call anything before the 7AD as Sinhalese is stupid a crime and racist. Non of the ancient kings called themselves Sinhalese or Aryan as they were neither They were Hindu or Buddhist native Tamil Nagas or from Tamil South Indian origin dynasties , the local kings constantly took Pandian Tamil princesses as their brides , this was going on for thousands of years until the Pandians were no more and the Tamil speaking Telugu origin Naicker took over , Then they started to take Naicker princess or noble women as their brides. The king who converted to Buddhism was a Tamil Saivite Naga and the so called Sinhalese hero Dutta Gamini was not a Sinhalese , how can he be ? 2300 years ago there were no Sinhalese , he was converted Tamil Buddhist Naga, as evidenced by his father’s pure Tamil names/titles. Kaavan Theesan or Kakkai Vanna Theesan. If these people did not identify themselves as Sinhalese or Aryans , how can the Sinhalese say they are Aryan or existed before 7AD?

        Remember the Sinhalese language and people only came into existence around the 6-7 AD before that they were evolving as a people from the various indigenous Dravidian Tamil , Semi Tamil speaking tribes and from immigrants from India , again largely from the then Tamil country and some from NE India. It evolved from the native Tamil dialect/proper Tamil and the Pali/Prakrit and Sanskrit of Buddhism.

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          Give us some more of your bull about race and language (with some DNA thrown in if possible) and of course caste to amuse us in these days of political uncertainty.

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            Oh here comes the self centred little petty mind. Was wondering where you were and why you have not attacked me far. Only interested in himself and his betterment and the friend of Sinhalese racists and Islamic extremists , for reasons for his own self advancement. Like that mad Subramania Swamy , this creature also calls himself a Tamil but works against the Tamils for his own petty gains

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    This man makes my blood boil. He just lies between his teeth and moreover, asking for an impartial international groups for everything. Who is this international community? They are non other than the infamous Western block comprising Europe, UK, Canada and the US. Are they impartial or independent? No. These countries have majority Tamil populace living there and they have formed separate voting blocks to pressure the respective political establishments of the said countries for personal favors. There will be no impartiality with those countries and their representatives. They care only about there own voting share. The Tamil diasporas’ main objective is retribution from Sinhalese. We will not give in. We shall fight just as our forefathers did.

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      ShenalModaya

      “This man makes my blood boil. “

      Why, when, how, where, ….. why now, ?
      Anything to do with frequent changes in your pressure level.

      “He just lies between his teeth and moreover, asking for an impartial international groups for everything. Who is this international community?”

      Please list all his lies which came out between his teeth? If not international groups whom do you think appropriate.
      Sri Lanka bought arms and ammunitions, received diplomatic cover, loans, radar, boats, naval ships, fighter/bombers, tanks, military training, multi barrel, managed to proscribe LTTE abroad, received support from 32 countries, ……. from many countries. These countries form part of the international groups or international community.

      The International Community also include Hindia, Israel, Pakistan, China, South Africa, … Hungary, …. who provided more war related services and materials.

      “The Tamil diasporas’ main objective is retribution from Sinhalese.”

      What exactly is Tamil Diaspora’s main objective, distribution of Sinhalese Wealth or retribution? If Sinhalese are so rich why do the brothers present themselves in front of Modi with their begging bowl which shows while the leaders go on regular begging trips void of any dignity a section of stupid people gloat something like ” We will not give in. We shall fight just as our forefathers did.”

      First stop your leaders from “BEGGING”, stealing, abusing power, people, ……………… then let’s talk about fighting the diaspora, …… shadow-boxing …

      Your empty words, irrationality, paranoia about imaginary enemy, bigotry, …. your myth, your own unlimited stupidity, limited resources …. won’t help you fight forever, and your forefathers never fought a winning war in the last 2000 years where every Tom Dick and Harry came saw conquered, and groped your women folks.
      Maybe 30 times 30 long period.

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        ShenalModaya

        You must be a descendant of Pandya, Rama’s Monkey Engineers, Cholas, Ibn Battuta, Mercenary from Erivira Pattinam, hybrid from Venga, born out of incestial relationships, …. Malay, Portuguese, Dutch, British, …………………. yet you believe you can fight like your forefathers, bit rich isn’t it?

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          She is of lowly Telugu origin , closely related to the Telugu origin Sakkilis and Gypsiy immgrants but definitely not to the Naickers . They are the so called Kandyan Radala like Sirimavo Ravathai and her ilk now beating the anti Tamil drum. Largely of Tamil Pandian and Tamil speaking Telugu origin Naicker/Pandian mixed descent but now ardent Sinhalese Buddhist Fascists.

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          Dear Native,

          Will TNA Abrahm change his name to Devanayagam Piya Theesan and welcome the new era Mahinda to form a separate state at least in the North,

          Because Vellala ex CM’s great Dream of that Eelaam in the whole of North East is now just a dream for sure , with Bathudeen’s new Alliance of the post Easter parties clean sweeping the East at the next Election..

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            KASmaalam K.A. Sumanasekera

            “Will TNA Abrahm change his name to Devanayagam Piya Theesan and welcome the new era Mahinda to form a separate state at least in the North,”

            It appears the prime crook Percy Mahendra Rajapaksa who is desperate to change his name to Rajagopalachari Pillai Savarkar.

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        Shenali Waduge, if your blood is boiling, I could help you by transfusing ice water to cool it. Keep to your Sinhala racist websites and papers where there are sycophantic support. What fight are you talking when all Sinhala racists living in foreign countries are frightened to confront Tamils and are espousing racism only behind closed doors. Sinhala racists in Sri Lanka must learn to live like their counterparts in those foreign countries, like dogs with their tails tucked between their legs.

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          Her surname Waduge or its other variant Baduge, , gives away her low caste South Indian origin Karawa/Karaiyar immigrant origin. Now like many recently Sinhalised South Indian immigrants, beating the anti Tamil drum against the native Eelam Tamils. Waduge or Baduge means from the Telugu . Vadugan means a Telugu person in Tamil , if you want to derogatively call them you say Vaduva or Baduva. ( a derogative name used by native Tamils ,Brahmin and non Brahmin to describe the Telugu origin immigrants and rulers who migrated to the Tamil country Brahmin and non Brahmin during the Naicker rule) Vadugu is another name for Telugu, meaning the language to the north. This means she is descended from Tamil speaking or even Telugu speaking fisher folk immigrants, who originated from Southern Andhra , during the Portuguese era. Now converted to Sinhalese Buddhist Fascism and posting all sorts of fake history and lies or twisting history to suit her Sinhalese Buddhist Fascist agenda in Lanka Lies and other extremist Sinhalese web sites.

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          “…if your blood is boiling, I could help you by transfusing ice water to cool it.”
          Does this doctor really do it?
          He must be awarded the Not-the-Nobel Prize for his creativity.

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            SJ the stupid fellow, your low IQ makes you not to appreciate sarcasm.

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              No he is some mean petty minded creature , who loves to please the Sinhalese racists and Islamic extremists and constantly tries to put down Tamils , for his own petty benefits. He knows very little but tries to act very knowledgeable and in the end makes a fool of himself. Calls himself an intellect but in reality a mean, nasty , self centred , stupid.

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        NV – Shenal must be surprised that you were able to guess his surname correctly!

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          mike

          Please deal with her existential question I found in her website:

          Can Sri Lanka’s Government give STATE LAND DEEDS to only SOME CITIZENS
          BY SHENALI WADUGE · 22ND FEBRUARY 2020

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          mike

          Tamils are expert in even building history just looking at a name.

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            lathass

            “Tamils are expert in even building history just looking at a name.”

            Yet you are looking for their history.
            I must congratulate you for one of your discoveries. You are the one who discovered Tamils’ head is full of s**t.

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      ‘Please accept the Tamils as your equals’
      ” And He has made from one blood every nation of men ..’.
      (Holy Bible)
      We are all equal, Sir.
      May we all in this country , learn to live together as bretheren in peace and unity.

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      Shenal M,
      Then you and other highly fire breathing Cinnamon Peelers could be boil blooded animals, no? Then, is that 212 degrees fever?
      Why, what is your problem to your blood to boil? You cannot take arbitration? Only Sinhala Jury Only Verdict? In a Western city like New York, there are more than 200 separate identities are living. America has no considerable Tamil votes, but it sanctioned Savage Indra and another 60 War Criminals. In UK, I hear the Sinhalese who went with goverment help like Karuna Amman are equal to Tamils. There are Sinhala MPs too in Britain. Don’t be an idiot to talk such foolish things.

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      ShenalM

      “This man makes my blood boil.”

      WIG the Pig is seeking attention. Please have sympathy for that man. He even ask to jail him thinking he can earn some more votes in coming election. I think this type of politicians more suit for Tamils.

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    mr.C.V. Wigneswaran hon. judge, it is a waste of time to think that some of the Yakko buggers will never accept that the tamils are more sophisticated than them.
    =
    the racist Yakkos who have themselves developed to be psychologically inferior to all the animals, brothers and sisters on this planet should be flushed down the latrine.?
    =t
    this is the justified reasoning to rid the world of all its ills.?
    =
    thankfully some of the Sinhala folk have great human qualities along with moral characteristics especially the late Mr. Leslie Perera and his inlaws the Ranatunga family who during the unnecessary 1983 riots were a pillar of strength to me and my Sinhala wife, not a hair on our heads were pulled out of our bodies under duress.?
    we were living at 494 nawala road, nawala.
    =
    I rest my case and my prayers are that the world gives each other high 5’s and makes this the best place for the animals and the human beings to abode in.?
    =
    a wishful thought.?
    cheers from the dream world.?, R. J.

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      ROHAN JOHNPILLAI
      “Yakko buggers will never accept that the tamils are more sophisticated than them.”

      Modi is paying money to Tamils in Tamil Nadu to use proper toilets instead of open air toilets. Great Sophistication!!!!!

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        Tamils are the proud ones learned to use toilets and drainage system, 5,000 years ago. Last few centuries many of them were sent out of their homes forcefully as indentured labourers. That is not their fault. People who are greedy driven to rule has to take that blame. PM Modi few months ago proudly sang the poem “Yaathum Oore” in UN and explained it was a Tamil who had written that marvellous words about 3,000 years ago. Tamil Nadu is growing faster than other states and paying more than its fair share of Tax for PM Modi’s central government. It is Tamil Nadu who got three Nobel prizes, an achievement even the countries like Pakistan or Bangladesh have not achieved, leave alone SinhaLE Wildlife Sanctuary. Whatever it is you, TN people are using their own land, but sad news is you have no place to burn your corps so you are taking it to Jaffna Muthaveli, Veddukunari Malai and with army codone, burning it. Then you are sending your women to Middle East to wash the toilets for your Biriyani and Arrack. Soon, in your lifetime, Middle East will be banning your women going to there to wash toilets. But feel better than fastly developing Tamil Nadu will offer brand New Toilets for your women to wash. Good Luck for hands full of Indian rupees.

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          “Tamils are the proud ones learned to use toilets and drainage system, 5,000 years ago.”
          Then why do a majority in Tamilnadu defecate in the open?

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            Because, unlike you they don’t wanted to carry for ever inside the buttock.

            Do you ever read any comments being written here? Did you read my comment? If so, can you explain what is in that? How do you teach to your students if you cannot under that simple comment? If you didn’t understand why do want to challenge it?
            I know the kids were cheating during Badiudeen time. But I have an honest question to you; which school you went? Why the Rapist Army is protecting the students at UOJ who sextually harresing the female students?

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            SJ

            Census 2011 states 95,000 Sri Lankies do not have toilet facilities.

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            SJ

            “Then why do a majority in Tamilnadu defecate in the open?”

            If Chinese are happy to breach Hotels hygiene then its fine with Tamils to defecate in the open.
            Watch the clip:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfvvICCqq7s

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          Mally,

          You now claim it is the Tamils who invented Toilets and introduced the drainage system for the Homosapiens 3000 years ago in Tamil Nadu,

          Your new Hero Mr Wiggy says Tamils are the original inhabitants of our Lankawe.

          I checked the WHO Toilet stats and access to Running Water which are the best indicators of the poverty of the Homs , specially in our part of the Planet.

          To my surprise there are still over 200 Million Hindians without access to either of the two..
          But Srilanka didn’t get any mention there.

          Wonder what happened …. Mally

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            Sumane,

            You can talk about the poverty in Tamil Nadu. Yet it need not to be correct in all aspects because TN is semi-federal state so its economy cannot fully separate from the level of rest of the India.
            The important issue is I don’t have the mouth to talk about TN because it is one of richest state in India, but I am from north, the poorest province in Ceylon. You can talk Sumane because you live in West, for which North is no match in economy.

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          Mallaiyuran,

          “Then you are sending your women to Middle East to wash the toilets …”

          Sinhala women work hard and earn foreign exchange. What does your fking Meenachhis do? Eat ‘Dhose’ and breed breed breed.

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          Mallaiyuran,
          “Last few centuries many of them were sent out of their homes forcefully as indentured labourers.”

          When proud Sinhalayo refused to work as laborers for Portuguese, Dutch and British colonial parasites they went to the cesspool across the Palk Strait and brought slaves who were willing to work for peanuts.

          British took Dravidians as slaves to all their colonies. If Tamils were a sophisticated race why the hell British took Tamils as slaves?

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        Eagale Pottaya

        You are talking as though your Sinhala fore fathers were born with a Toilet roll stuck to their rectum. Don’t make me laugh, Do you wash or wipe your arse with grass after defecating in Sinhala lanka ????

        You idot ( nodaya)

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    wiggy
    why do keep repeating this stuff over and over again

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      Like Trump and Rajapakse, minus racism, they have no political base.

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      wiggy

      “why do keep repeating this stuff over and over again”

      Because they have nothing new to say. Do you think kallathony type of people can talk of a great civilization or giant monuments or something like that.

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        lathass

        “Do you think kallathony type of people can talk of a great civilization or giant monuments or something like that.”

        Yes you do it all the time.
        Even a few years ago the 65 ft Samadhi Buddha Statue was carved out of a large balder in Kurunagala, by Muthu Muthiah Sthapathi from Chennai.
        Read
        Appreciation: The Hindu who build 65 ft Samadhi Buddha Statue
        http://www.dailymirror.lk/news-features/Appreciation-The-Hindu-who-build-ft-Samadhi-Buddha-Statue/131-148117

        Please read before you start typing.
        Fact check
        Fact check
        Fact check

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    already 4 comments have been made sadly 3 of them have been typed by the lowest of the petty thuppai racist Klu Klux clan Yakko buggers who are better off being eradicated from this wonderful planet earth of ours.?
    =
    cheers from the dude who says it as he says it.? R. J. the one & only.?

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    What a comedy of errors in our once beautiful island of Ceylon. All politicians have and still breaking this small island to pieces take Sirisena Mahinda Ranil not one of them united the people as one country. Now Sajith is only fighting for a position and is not bothered nor has he come out with a plan of uniting Sinhalese
    Tamils Muslims Christians into a brotherhood . Gota may be trying to put things
    in place but he will not be successful until he discards the racists in the government . If he can throw away the Gamanpikas Weerawansas and the yellow robed racists the minorities will embrace him and defend him
    at whatever costs . But that is an unfulfilled dream as the racists and fraudsters are thriving under these s fake members of parliament.

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      Muslim,
      “Gota may be trying to put things in place but he will not be successful until he discards the racists in the government.”

      Gota will not be able to put things right until he manage to get rid of racist Wellala Malabar Demala politicians and Muslim fanatics who want to change this country to a Muslim country by killing non-Muslims.

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        Eagle eye
        As long as there are people like you Sri Lanka can never ever be the pearl of the Indian Ocean. Shed your racists mind you will do no good to this country

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    Vigy is trying to survive on his political carèer. He makes tamils emotional and drive them to a path of racism. Aftetwards he show his stature as he is the man for the moment. His last breath is nearing and I think he will struggle to let it go. He lived in colombo. He knows the truth. He should have worked for the peace. The old man is going to struggle on his death bed exactly the opposite of what lord Buddha preached.

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      Manmada,
      Tamils made their political decision not emotionally but based on real experience by Sinhala Buddhist racism. You should understand the fact that there were kingdoms in the past and one of them was Tamil Kingdom for Tamil speaking people and one kingdom for Sinhala speaking people and one for both Tamil and Sinhala speaking peoples (Federal Country). These kingdoms were peaceful and had close relationship compare to the Buddhist Sinhala Kingdom dominated democracy. In fact, our democracy is much worse than kingdoms.
      Vigy is doing the same thing every Tamil politician or every Sinhala politician do in this island. So far there is not a single leader in this country to serve the people of this land. The so called politicians who say that they are going to save Lord Buddha never ever followed single word of Lord Buddha preached. The country is in bloodbath continuously for seven decades under these political leadership. Violence is their top priority.

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        Ajith,
        “You should understand the fact that there were kingdoms in the past and one of them was Tamil Kingdom for Tamil speaking people and one kingdom for Sinhala speaking people and one for both Tamil and Sinhala speaking peoples (Federal Country).”

        Sheer BS from history of Sinhale distorted by Kallathoni racist Chelvanayakam and his stooges.
        At the time Portuguese invaded Yapanaya, King of Kandy sent a Sinhala army to defend Yapanaya but they failed. The surrender agreement was in Sinhala and Portuguese. There was a War Load but he was not Demala. Accept the truth. 98% of Demalu in Sinhale are descendants of Dravida slaves brought from Hindusthan and abandoned in Sinhale. Native Sinhalayo made a blunder by giving citizenship to these ungrateful BPs.

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        ajith

        Even if there was any Tamil kingdom or what ever, it has been erased in this planet now. If the war is prevalent till today most of Tamils would have gone the same path now.

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      Yes, Wiggy is just an opportunist. I don’t think well-educated people can easily fall for such rubbish as “Tamil homeland.” Still, he should be careful. There are some Zahran-types out there who will take him at face value.

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    I do not believe that all Tamils living outside the geologically, ethnically, religiously, geographically, topographically and historically separate northern and eastern parts of Sri Lanka would relish the idea of relocating to the northern and eastern parts. This is true especially of the Tamils who have inter-married and live in Colombo and major regional centres. I cannot imagine how CV Wigneswaran can suggest a solution for this problem, if indeed they are considered a “nation” and achieve federal status.

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      Lasantha, look at Singapore and Malaysia, if you do not want to look at the example of India and Pakistan. When Singapore seceded, 75% of Chinese were in Malaysia and only 25% of Chinese were in Singapore. Did this prevent secession, which on hindsight appears to have benefited both countries. When India was partitioned, 40% of Muslims were still trapped in India and only 60% of Muslims were in the carved out Pakistan, though subsequently forcing many Muslims out of India and many Hindus out of Pakistan. If you take Sri Lanka, indigenous Tamils are those demanding autonomy and not Tamils of recent origin. 90% of indigenous Tamils are still living in north and east, while of the Tamils living in the south, 90% are of recent Indian origin. This is the reason why until now, indigenous Tamils had been unable to get one of their person elected to parliament from the south. If you create conditions where Tamils could live in safety, transact business without coming to Colombo, use their airports and sea ports to travel to and trade with foreign countries, and enjoy the same luxury as what they enjoy in Colombo, then quite a number of them will translocate. If I who lived in Colombo in comfort for 44 years can resettle in UK foregoing pension and starting a life all from scratch, then all self respecting Tamils will do it. On the contrary if the Sinhala government puts spokes to derail the autonomy of Tamils by not allowing them to prosper, then there will be no takers. See for yourself how Tamils are prospering in foreign countries, which the Sinhala controlled governments would never have allowed them to achieve. So without giving such excuses, set the process rolling of creating a federal state. I have said in these columns how to effect a merger of north and east, which will be a win-win situation for all. Simply saying that we cannot grant Tamils their rights because Sinhalese do not want, is rank racism.

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        Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam,
        “If you take Sri Lanka, indigenous Tamils are those demanding autonomy and not Tamils of recent origin. 90% of indigenous Tamils are still living in north and east, while of the Tamils living in the south, 90% are of recent Indian origin.”

        There are no indigenous Tamils in Sinhale.Demalu in Sinhale are descendants of Dravida slaves brought by colonial parasites. They called them ‘Malabar’ until a guy named Ponnambalam Arunachalam involved in preparing the Census Report in 1911 changed the term ‘Malabar’ to ‘Ceylon Tamils’. After that Malabar Demalu pretend as Ceylon Tamils and try to show that they are different from Demalu in tea plantations who are called ‘Indian Tamils’. The truth is all demalu are ‘Para’ people from Hindusthan entered Sinhale illegally.

        When colonial parasites abandoned these slaves in Sinhale, Native Sinhalayo who felt sorry for these stateless people gave citizenship in this country.

        Why should Native Sinhalayo give a Federal State to Demalu who became citizens of Sinhale by Registration, not by Descent.

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      Mr. Pethiyagoda,

      The exodus of Tamil people to the urban South was part of a general exodus of Tamils outside the North-East during the war, including to many foreign countries.

      Many who moved to the South still live in fear that racial attacks on them can happen at any time, and continue to struggle with language issues in dealing with the police and government.

      Initially it was the other way–where the lack of physical and economic security in the South led to people being forced to move back to the North-East or emigrate to the West. This was created by the riots and pogroms against Tamils that started in 1958 and culminated in July 1983; both the GoSL and the LTTE contributed to the much worse conditions during 1983-2009 that resulted in some people taking a gamble to live in some urban areas of the South.

      One cannot ignore that causal factor in responding to Tamil demands for a political solution that will guarantee their dignity, security and equality.

      Federalism in India hasn’t prevented Indians of all ethnic groups settling down in Delhi , Calcutta, Mumbai, Bangalore and Chennai. Why should it be a problem in SL?

      Moreover, many Tamils who have moved to foreign countries as well as the SL south, would be willing to return to the North-East if the region had better human security under a Federal setup, and could be developed in a way that would sustain both physical and economic security. The political solution needs to happen first and some time has to elapse before such conditions can be created.

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        Agnos
        Unbalanced economic development is a major cause of migration.
        Development was Colombo based for more than a century before independence.
        While migrant groups settle in major cities of India, there is much racial intolerance in Bengaluru and Delhi. Tamilnadu is not free of the menace.

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          SJ

          Of course Sri Lanka is different, this is a tolerant country.
          That is why Ceylon Citizenship ACT was passed in 1948 disenfranchising over 900,000 hard working people and signed Siri Mao Shastri pact.

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      Lasantha,
      It is not about moving people around regions. It is about sharing power. Tamil speaking people are in majority in the North East. This is a fact. Similarly Sinhalese are majority in the rest of the regions.So Sinhalese have a majority rule in the regions they are majority. Similarly, Tamils should have their rule where they are majority. Both regions should have a common rule of law, common principles of governance.

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    There is a lot in what Justice Wigneswaran says but electioneering within it provokes even the normal Singhalese and moderate Tamils. He is against separation and wants a solution within one United and undivided Srilanka.
    Switzerland is one country and people speaking different languages there are not harassed or discriminated. Here in Srilanka all government officers must know two native languages, Sinhalese and Tamil but Sinhalese officers need not know Tamil. A Srilankan who speaks only Tamil language cannot get things done with any government officer specially police in any part of the country. This discriminates that citizen which is against the law according to which all Srilankans are equal.
    If the law makers can remove these contradictions we can avoid discrimination of Tamil speaking citizens.
    If politicians and the media play down emotions and stop setting up one community against the other the island will be a peaceful place to live without the fear of terrorism.

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      Saro,
      “Here in Srilanka all government officers must know two native languages, Sinhalese and Tamil but Sinhalese officers need not know Tamil. A Srilankan who speaks only Tamil language cannot get things done with any government officer….”

      Demala is not a Native language. It is the language brought to Sinhale by Dravida invaders and slaves brought by colonial parasites. Only Sinhala and Vedda languages are NATIVE.

      Blame Kallathoni racist Chelvanayakam and Ponnambalam who told Demalu not to learn Sinhala because they feared that if Demalu learn Sinhala they will not be able to promote their separate Homeland demand.

      Native Sinhalayo made a blunder by giving citizenship straightaway to ‘Para’ Demalu and ‘Para’ Muslims. Sinhalayo should have given ‘Resident Permits’ with conditions that ‘Para’ people should acquire Sinhala language proficiency and ability to sing National Anthem in Sinhala before granting citizenship in Sinhale.

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        Eagle Eye
        If Tamil is not a Native to SL
        Sinhala language will be a meaningless gobbledygook!

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          Tamil most certainly is native only to Tamil nadu. The same language does not evolve across large water bodies like the 70 meter deep Palk Strait. What is gobbledygook is your stupid nonsensical claims about Tamil being native to SL. Tamil is practically an alien language in Srilanka. It does not have any formative history here. No ancient Tamil literature has been produced here. Everything is in Tamilnadu.

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        I do not get involved in racist antham. Citizens born in Sri Lanka without any foreign ancestry are natives. Citizens must be able to communicate and get things done with the government officers which is simple to understand for any normal humans.

        In Singapore all languages are official and operational which facilitate every citizen to go about his/her normal life without any difficulty or checking his/her ethnicity that’s why Sri Lankan citizens of all ethnic origin go and work as engineers, doctors, maids and labourers. There is no communal hatred or riots. The leaders do not promote anti-religeous or anti-racial hatredness. That country is one of the most prosperous even among the developed countries.

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    Dear manmada read the history if you can read, Do not criticize without knowing the truth. Good article you to think and read about.

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    As Mahindapala said, the problem in Sri Lanka is Tamils believe one version while Sinhalese ( and European historians, archeologists) believe another version! That is the root cause of conflict!

    Wiggie is a living example!

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      And the truth is both idiotic sinhalese and tamils there were descendants of then south india. Budhism, language polity all brought from there. Sekara nayake sumane from united southern country under vijayanagara chola pandya kingdom so does perare fernandos pirabhakaran etc…learn to accept and move on idiots with equal rights

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        Manisekaran,
        “And the truth is both idiotic sinhalese and tamils there were descendants of then south india.”

        No, the truth is Sinhalayo are Native people who evolved in this country over a period of 125,000 years while Demalu are from Hindusthan who entered illegally as invaders and slaves brought by colonial parasites. Sinhalayo have a well documented written history and Pre-historical evidences to prove that they evolved in this country.

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      ” and European historians “

      So now you and Mahindapala are ready to call UNESCO historians and have the history written again, because you & your Bald Heads have changed all the school books based on British Education time writing?

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    mr.vickey all what you are talking is nothing new to tamils or singalayas. SELVANAYAGAM,AMITHALINGAM,AND SIVASITHAPARAM and many other tamil leaders have spoken the same thing over last 72 years since FEBRUARY 4TH 1948. only difference is that YOU ARE HAVING A POTTU IN YOUR FORE HEAD AND A NICE BEARD.you may be talking too much to get some young tamils votes who became eligible to vote first time.what ever you do is against the leader MR.SAMPATHAN who trusted you and made you THE CHIEF MINISTER OF NORTH BUT YOU TURNED YOUR BACK TO SAMPANTHAN AND BECAME CHEAP MINISTER.if you had any problem you should have discussed at the party level before going in front of the press.NOW YOU ARE WITH Elavu Pudicha Roudy Luckless Party of former MANDIAN as your advisor to LEAD THE TAMILS TO ANOTHER NANTHIKADAL-AFTER THE ELECTION YOU WILL END UP AGAIN IN MR.VASIDEAVAS HOUSE WHO WILL DELIVER TO YOU A FEDERAL STATE IN A SILVER TRAY BORROWED FROM MAHINDA RAJAPAKSE.

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    Wigneswaren,
    *
    Not correct! As Tamils are an integral part in the South, So it is correct that Sinhalese are an integral part of the North.
    *
    Untrue (the article). With Tamil Nadu glaring above us… GLARINGLY,……and as per history of Chola invasions, Mother Lanka was Obviously Invaded. For justice sake, all of Sri Lanka should be Sinhalese run, with some acknowledgement of Tamil (like a stanza in the National Anthem).
    *
    2,500 years ago when Vijaya and Buddha came down to Motherland, all were not Tamil in Motherland. Indeed Tamils were trying very hard to indoctrinate the tribes of Lanka with too many concepts, but to no avail….. tribes were too primitive. But Vijayan Buddhism took hold. Tribes became enlightened (guess tribes were primitive man like the aborigines of the whole surrounding region of S. Asia, S. E. Asia, and Africa).

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      And the rest of India was of the same DNA constituency, except for 1% cultural concept teachers/ preachers arpund called either Tamils or Vijaya.

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        …around*

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      Ramona Killavi , if they were not Thamizh or even Proto Thamizh Dravidian then what were they? Deaf , dumb and mute ? Please explain as to why do the Vedda worship Thamizh god Lord Murugan and his consort Valliammah as their gods and still do? Why are all the ancient prehistoric places of worship are Saivite,? The five Iswarams? Pre historic Kathirkammam in honour of Thamizh god Lord Murugan.? You mean to say Thamizh /Dravidian were not there but all these magically appeared without their presence and the native Vedda started to just worship Thamzh gods , with no influence or interaction with Thamizh? Why was the king who converted to Buddhism and his father having Thamizh Savite names? They just appeared from nowhere? Why your Chingkalla hero Thutta Kaimunu , who is supposed to have existed long before Chingkallams arrived , may be a bad omen, have a daddy or Appa with Thamizh names. What Appa just liked Thamizh names and titles? The arrival of Vijaya is a myth and has not been proven , there is no history of him in his so called native Vanga Nadu in NE India or modern Bangladesh. Even a highly civilised disunited people , divided into tribes and kingdoms can be subdued by an organised band of less civilised but determined, brutal raiders and immigrants more savage , advanced in warfare and cruelty. Just like what the largely Savage Vikings did to the more civilised parts of Christian Europe, or the ancient nomadic, savage , less civilised , Aryan invaders did to the far more advanced and highly civilised Indus valley Dravidian civilisation( it is Dravidian and most probably proto Tamil , this is now well established) , that was in decline.

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        Even as per your Mahavamsa comic book if this Vijaya story was true and he arrived , the original Chingkallams were half Thamizh , as this so called North Indian prince and his friends all married Thamizh women from the Pandian country and then all the future their generations kept on marrying Thamizh women , as well as inviting Thamizh from South India, to settle and migrate. All these so called North Indian genes would have become heavily diluted over the generations to Thamizh. What about all the later invasions and settlement too. Ramona Kilavi but don’t worry, as your ancestors like most of the ancestors of the present day Chingkallams , only arrived from the slums and low caste villages of Thamizh South India , a few centuries ago. How are all your third cousins in Thamizh Nadu and Kerala? You should visit them with presents from the USA. Long lost Machhi , Karava Ramona Patti from the USA they will love it.

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          Padi…..Wow! Speak for yourself. Guess you are one of the 91%- 99% Tamil Masses ( I will not say low caste as I do not believe humans should be placed in castes)……it used to be 99% before, but with the advent of the White people, you Thamilz gained their higher concept and became a bit more democratized.
          *
          Btw, Veddas are mostly Buddhist. Only a few Thamilz Veddas are Hindu.
          *
          Yeah, “Thamilz” were kicked out of Mohendro Daro and places and fled to the aboriginal south where they preached their concepts, and primitive 99% masses became a bit cleverer. They finally landed in Motherland and had just begun the building of their temples when a more profound thought that came from Vijaya and Buddha enraptured the Lankan masses. Guess a lot of them came down to convert the Hindus to Buddhists, hmmmm don’t you think, Pandi? ……let’s say it was 10% compared to the Thamilz 1%.

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            Yes but even these Buddhist Vedda, still regard Tamil Lord Murugan , as their protector and god. Not only them even most Sinhalese ardently worship Tamil God Lord Murugan and his consort Valiamma. The Sinhalese war god is Lord Murguan ( the Vel) now they call him Katharagamma Deviyo( Kathirkammar in ancient Tamil) . They love him so much like everything else , they have that they had plagiarised from the Tamils and now calling as theirs , they have converted this once ancient prehistoric Tamil Saivite Hindu site to a Sinhalese Buddhist sits and Lord Murugan for themselves Can you explain why ? This because most Sinhalese have a Tamil origin and the Vedda have ancient prehistoric contact with the Dravidian Tamils living in the island. Please use your brains woman , instead of rambling and trying to deny the obvious truth , with all sorts of fairy tales. What the Piglet states is the truth.

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              Buddhists worship even Jesus Christ and Allah in theit moments of desperation; Murugan being a longer standing god. But they strive to be Theravada. Obvious truth: 90-100 % of Lankans are of unique South Asian aboriginal gene. Language and religion make Sinhalese unique to the other tribes of S. Asia. And as Lanka has been seperated by a body of water for about a million years, we are a unique nation. Forcing S.India onto it is unnatural. In this era we can gradually assimilate, but that’s how far it can go.

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                Yes the Chingalams are very unique in South Asia , in committing war crimes , structural genocide on the island’s Thamizh , concocting and twisting history, all in the name of Chingkalla Poutha Fascism . What is unique about the Chingkallams or the Chingkalla language? Chingkallams largely descended from low caste South Indian immigrants and indentured slaves, who came here gradually converted their language and religion and all became unique Chingkalla Aryans with glistening black or brown skins. The so called unique Chingkalla language a hotchpotch of local Thamizh, Samaskirutham and Pali . Take Thamizh out of Chingkalla language and there will be no Chingkallam , they will just go Ga Ga Ba Ba just like you Ramona Paati. A batty old Ga Ga . By the way how are all your close relatives from the fishing villages in southern Thamizh Nadu ? Are they unique too or just batty potty unique you?

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                RTF & SSS,
                Buddhism and Hinduism/Brahmanism are the two main religions that existed and flourished in Sri Lanka from the very early period. Sinhala-Buddhists are ardent worshippers of Hindu Gods from very early period. Even today, if we visit any Buddhist temple (including the Dalada Maligawa) in Sri Lanka, there is always a Hindu Devale/Shrine with Hindu Gods within the Buddhist temples. A Tamil can go to any Buddhist Temple and often find his/her own Gods. Many Sinhalese, whether Buddhist or Christian, are still practicing Hindu religious traditions openly. For example, auspicious times is a Hindu concept, Buddhism has no concept of auspicious times. If you go to the Hindu temples like Kathirkamam (Kataragama), Thevanthurai (Devundara), Muneshwaram, and Koneswaram, you find more Sinhalese devotees than Tamils. Hindu Religious practices such as the Pattini/Kannagi deity worship (as well as the worship of South Indian Gods Natha/Siva, Upulvan/Vishnu, Kataragama/Murukan, Saman, Vibhishana and Ganesha) were prevailing among the people of Sri Lanka for thousands of years. Majority of Sinhalese in Sri Lanka practice a Buddhist-Hindu culture. They pray with great piety to Hindu gods, perform rituals, break coconuts, tie pirith noola, surei, do important things at auspicious times, light the khoodu for Bhairava, hang ash pumpkins in a newly built house to avoid evil befalling any member of the house-hold, chant Seth and Vas kavi, etc. There is no caste system in Buddhism but if you read the matrimonial columns in the Sinhala newspapers, you will see that the Sinhalese are still following the Hindu Caste system to find a partner. They also observe Hindu New Year Day, the first month of the Buddhist lunar calendar year is `Bak` which Never falls on the 14th of April whereas in the Hindu solar calendar the first day of the first solar month falls each year on 14 April.

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                  Messenger,
                  Agreed!. As all are united under Tamil gods and genes (with only 1%-10%variance), there is no need for Federalism!

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                    RTF,
                    Due to your ignorance, confusion and lack of knowledge, you people have never understood the meaning of federalism because you are made to understand that a federal state means a separate country where the Sinhalese will have no access. Right from 1950s, federalism was intentionally portrayed as separatism by a few racist politicians and saffron robed men for partisan reasons. Federal is not a separate state/country. Having federal states in a country does not mean dividing the country into many separate countries. Anybody and everybody can move from one state to another without any restrictions in a federal setup.
                    Take some examples of countries with federal states like the USA, India, tiny Switzerland, etc. If an American citizen wants to go from Texas and settle in New York or an Indian wants to go from New Delhi and settle in Tamil Nadu or, a Swiss wants to go from Zurich and settle in Sion, he/she does not need any visa/passport or change in citizenship. Similarly, in a federal Sri Lanka, if a Sinhalese from Matara wants to settle in the NE or a Tamil from Jaffna wants to settle in the South, he/she does not need any passport or change in citizenship. Nobody is going to chase them out. None of the Tamils living in the South are going to move to the NE and none of the Sinhalese living in the NE are going to move to the South by having a federal system. A federal Southern province means the people of the South are given freedom to look after their own affairs and a federal Northern Province means the people of the North are allowed to look after our own affairs. It is a process of decentralization and power/wealth sharing. As long as the Sri Lankan masses remain as rice eating asses (donkeys), the politicians will always hoodwink them with wrong interpretation.

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                      Messenger,
                      Yup. Looks like we have federalism already now, albeit Sinhalese are rather restricted in moving up north. But what you want is your own police and armed forces. Terrible thing with after all of the terrorism and with Tamil Nadu Glaringly staring down on us.

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              Murugan is not Tamil. He is called “Kumara” in Rig-Veda. He is clearly an Aryan god adapted by the Dravidians. Yet another example of coolie worship.

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                Idiotic Lord Murugan not Murugan is a Tamil Dravidian god, just like Sivan or Siva. When the North Indian Aryan culture adopted him into their fold they start Sanskritising or giving Aryan names to Tamil gods . Siva becomes Shiva. Lord Murugan becomes Hirthik or Karthik and the identity mixes with a similar deity they worshiped. Similarly many so called Aryan gods when adopted by the Dravidians , they are also given a Tamil or Dravidian name and their identity merges with a similar deity that the Dravidians worshipped. This was the gradual fusion of India’s Dravidian and Aryan culture and the Dravidian and Aryan people to bring out modern Indian culture and people. However in present day Hinduism all the major Hindu gods are Dravidian, the gods of the masses and the so called Aryan gods like Indra, Brahma, Saraswathi , Laxmi have all been relegated to minor gods. Get your facts correct Sinhalese racist . Like a typical Sinhalese extremist you try to twist the truth.

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                  You can call him Murugan or Skanda or James Bond, the name is irrelevent. Muruguan is an Aryan god (Kartikeya) whose origin is Vedic Puranas. There is no reference to Murugan in Tamil literature until Kanda Puranam was written in Tamil from Skanda Purana in 14th century AD. All the legends come later. Until the 14th century, Kartikeya was obscure in Tamil divinity and was worshipped in a similar way to being worshipped in other parts of India and Sri Lanka.

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                    Lester Dumbass

                    Excerpts from Professor Paramu Pushparatnam’s paper
                    “Murukan Worship in Sri Lanka New Archaeological Evidence”.
                    http://murugan.org/research/pushparatnam.htm
                    Read:
                    ….
                    the Tamils cherished the worship of Murukan from time immemorial. During the Cankam age Murukan was the presiding god of the tinai (tract land), called kurinci (hills and its surrounding (Kalidas 1976:58). Ample literary sources are available to spell out the epithets by which the Lords were known. He was called Murukan (Akananuru 22:11, Purananūru56:11, Narrnai 47:10), Cevvel (Maturaikkanci 1.611, Narrnai 24, Kuruntokai 53:3), Mannaiyan (Tirumurukārruppatai 1.201), Viramayilmel Nayiru ‘the sun mounted on peacock’ (Paripātal 18:25) and so on (Kalidas 1999:73-90).

                    ….
                    The Murukan cult in Sri Lanka is as old as the tradition from the Tamil Nadu and is sure to have derived inspiration from Tamil mainland and in the subcontinent. Prehistoric artifacts of the cult in Tamil Nadu have been unearthed from Aticcanallūr. This type of material remains are found in Sri Lanka at various places; e.g Pomparippu, Anuradhapura, Pinveva, Kantarotai and Punakari. The artifacts pertain to symbolic attributes of Murukan such as Vēl (Shakti Ayudha) and Ceval (cock). Sitrampalam 1995:182, Pushparatnam 1991:38).
                    ….

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                      Fake Veddah,

                      Come up with an original thought rather than brainlessly quoting Eelamist propaganda.

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                Lester the Jester,

                The Katharagama God Murugan aka Kartikeyan aka Skanda Kumaran aka Subrahmanyan, is the Hindu God of Saivate Tamils. He is the son of Siva and Parvati.

                Regarding this guy “Kumara”, you better check with your mother if she associated with any coolies before your birth.

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                  Baptist

                  “Regarding this guy “Kumara”, you better check with your mother if she associated with any coolies before your birth.”

                  Brilliant.
                  This can come only from a son of a village Hamuduruwo.

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                Lester Modaya

                Tamil is older than sanskirit. Tamil culture was the dominant culture in South Asia before the Aryan invasion, God Murugan has been adopted by the later arrivals Aryans in to their pantheon as Kumara. Lord Sivan is the supreme God of the Tamils. his son is Murugan.

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                  Rig-Veda is older than any Tamil literature. Shiva, Murugan, Ravanna are all Aryan gods. Dravidians adapted all the Aryan gods in Rig Veda and they took up the Vedic caste system as well. Here is one example, the phrase “sha” is not there in Tamil. It is borrowed from Sanskrit. So how can Shiva be Tamil? Tamils also borrowed sa (ஸ), ஜ (ja), ஹ (ha), and ஶ்ரீ (sri) from Sanskrit. Any Tamil words with these sounds are automatically from Sanskrit.

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                Lester,
                I have stopped replying to totally ignorant absolute morons, buffoons, and goofs. Sorry!

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      ramona grandma therese fernando

      “As Tamils are an integral part in the South, So it is correct that Sinhalese are an integral part of the North.”

      Not correct!
      As both Tamils and Sinhalese are the Kallathonie descendants of South India they are not part of any part of this island.

      “But Vijayan Buddhism took hold.”

      Please explain your gobbledygook which is coming out of your scatterbrain.

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        Veddas came from Andaman Island and places NV.

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    Majority of sinhala Buddhist know what you are talking about not the majority of slaves

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    Sri Lankan political system is first ABUSE THE LEADERS of the party. Then what leaders do is invite the prospective politician and offer him at least a NATIONAL LIST POSITION,MINISTER POST AND A CAR PEMIT GET SOME EXTRA CASH and ministry car fleet (some lease it to they themselves via the wife’s leasing agency).
    Wigneswaran is trying that politics. Probably his consultant adviser and his CLOSE RELATIVE, the SOCIALIST FRIEND has advised him that way.
    We need to stop that politics. Stop exploiting everything available for one’s benefit.

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    Mr. Wigneswaran: When you became the Chief Minister, I had lot of hopes, especially remembering you as a Supreme Court Judge. You know what I mean by that ex “Designation”. Unfortunately, you completely deviated from those “Characteristics & Norms” and got “Forced” into be a “Politician” identical to the whole of rest in the “Battle Ground” in Sri Lanka. My highest expectation from you, nothing but a “BRIDGE” to all the communities and “USHER” in a sustainable peace and harmony . You took the wrong “Path” and naturally and perhaps driven by “Greed” for power , you injected venom of “Tribalism” that has triggered the already rupturing “Tribalism” in the South. You planted the same “GERM” from the North that the South has planted all the time and no attempt by any type of “APPEAL” is going to work for you and “Your People”.

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    Mr. Wigneswaran is an appointed politician. You have not proven anything yet. I think you need to use your conscience to do politics and not what others say or advice. I do not think TRIBAL politics would work for anybody.

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    This Vella Dude the ex CM makes me totally confused.

    I thought our great , great , great….and many more great granddad Balanagoda Man’s King son Ravana pinched the wife of the Thamil King Rama and brought her to Srilanka.

    And King Rama had to send his Ape Army to rescue the Queen from some where in Balangoda area.

    I even saw an Ad recently for the Hindians to come over and follow the path of the Ape Army right up to the Hiding Place Sitha Cave.,

    Now I know Ravana was a Tamil too..

    If Tamils were the great majority then in both Srilanaka and India how come they have come down in their numbers so drastically with only just 2 Million in Srilanka and only 80 Million in Hindia.

    Even in that.2 Million ,I am told ,1 Million came from India long long after Thee Nanam Piyatissam’s welcome to Saffron Clad Mahinda.

    Wonder whether that Mahinda was also a Tamil who was converted By Lord Buddha in Veranasi..?..

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      Tamils cannot be trusted at all
      You people harresed the Sinhalese at every opportunity.
      So no need of this federalism ploy which is a Trogen Horse to destry the Nation.

      Ultimately USA will be the winner after getting a foot hold in Sri Lanka
      and acces to the Indian Ocean via Tricomalee Harbour. And access to oil resources in Manna Basin.

      NO NO NO

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        Citizen Silva

        “Tamils cannot be trusted at all”

        I agree with you.
        Their Sinhala/Buddhist descendants also cannot be trusted.

        Because both share their gene with their South Indian cousins.

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      Because most of the Thamizh , especially the lowly peasant Yakka variety converted to Buddhism and then started to corrupt their Thamizh with Pali and Samaskirutham of the Potha Matham and gradually evolved as Chingkallams. Only the elite Naga largely remained Saivam and Thamizh, they were more concentrated in NE , where all the ancient ports and commerce were taking place at that time. The Yakka or Yakko majority peasants were largely down south living like peasants , less organised , educated , just like most Chingkallams , therefore more susceptible to a new religion, language and influences from outside , which an elite more established population will not. Later lots of other invader Thamizh and low caste Thamizh , from South India gradually came to the South of the island settled ,and assimilated as Chingkallams too. The ruling invaders adopted, Chingkalla language Buddhism , to protect their wealth and kingdoms, but practised Hinduism too this why lots of Chingkallas still worship Hindu gods due to their original peasant Hindu Thamizh Yakka origin and later Indian influence. The low caste and peasants assimilated into Chingkallams , as they did not all arrive in one go but gradually arrived over the centuries and assimilated , as this was better for them, they had burnt their boats and were never going to return and would not have even known that there was a thriving native Thamizh population and kingdoms in the NE Of the island. Most modern English are descend from Germanic Anglo Saxon, Norse and other immigrant men marrying local Celtic women , together with entire local Celtic communities assimilating to the Anglo Saxon later English identity , GO and ask them too why it happened DO not try to bring stupid arguments to justify your Chingkalla racism

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      Ravana is the guy who needs to be studied. Both SInhalayas and Tamilayas claim him. It is strange that this should be so. Why have these fights like the ones that Wiggy and Rajapakse two mad old bastards have? look to the future. Sinhala only did not get us anywhere. The young realise this. The leaders of the SInhalayas, from Bandaranaike, sent their idiot children to Europe to study and kept the local youth in Sinhala darkness. Why not end this charade? Look at the pilfering that the Rajapakse children are doing. Do we need more of this under the guise of nationalism? Old man Wiggy only wants power. Where was he all these days drawing a government salary and pension?

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      “Now I know Ravana was a Tamil too..”

      Ravana was not a Tamil. His parents were Kaikesi and Vishrava.. Kaikesi parent’s were Sumali and Tataki. Tataki was a Yaksha princess-turned-Raakshasi (because of a curse). Suketu, a Yaksha king was her father.Sumali was the maternal grandfather of Ravana. He was an Asura King. To be more particular, he was a Daitya His paternal grandfather, the sage Pulastya, who was one of the ten Prajapatis or mind-born sons of Brahma and one of the Saptarishi (Seven Great Sages Rishi) in the first Manvantara.

      So Ravana, is a son of a mother who was a daughter of a “Yaksha turned Raakshasa” and a Asura,and a son of a father who was a Brahmin born to another Sage named Pulastya.

      Also, Kubera, a yaksha king is his step-brother. So what is Ravana’s ancestry? He is a Raakshasa/Asura/Brahmin/Yaksha. Tamils are Naga’s, a different tribe altogether.

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        Lester

        “Tamils are Naga’s, a different tribe altogether.”

        Brilliant.
        You too are not only Naga but also closely related to South Indians (Tamils).
        Therefore you could claim being a descendant of Ravan.
        Or are you a descendant of the monkey army engineers who built the Sethu Bridge?
        Think about it.

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          Veddah,

          Eelamists like to quote the outdated 1995 study by Kshatriya which shows 70% genetic affinity between Sinhalese and Tamils. Check the latest findings on DNA: “However, another study looking at Alu polymorphism,[11] VNTR[12] and genetic distance[2] have found the genetic relationship between the South Indian Tamil and Sinhalese to be much smaller than Kshatriya’s findings (11–30%).”. I have seen other studies that also show a significant East Asian contribution to the Sinhalese DNA.

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    Vigna, as a Tamil and as a Sri Lanka I say to you:
    1. No merger of North and East as the composition of both provinces are different and even among Tamils there are no similarities. We all are only “Sri Lankans” irrespective of ethnicity or religious differences. There should be no claim being Tamil, Sinhalese, Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim or Christian division on nation hood. There should be only one identity – Sri Lankan.
    2. History means nothing, as the important question arises when should the so called history start from? History cannot be fixed to a starting position. If we are to follow history as you claim, we were Indians during Indian invasion, then under Portuguese we were Portuguese, then under Dutch we were Dutch, then under British we were British. Hence, history means nothing, we all are Sri Lankans that should be the beginning and the end.
    3. Self determination cannot be restricted to each province. Self determination should be for entire Sri Lanka and not for provinces.
    4. We are Sri Lanka Nation, there are no Tamil Nation and Sinhala Nation within it. One Nation Sri Lanka.
    3. You are asking the question if the Sinhalese have been made aware of Tamil History. You were the Chief Minister of the Northern Province, you had lot of money which you have not spent. Can you tell me what you have done to educated the Northern Tamils re: Sinhala History?
    4. You are talking about foreign investigation. The best investigation should be an investigation within Sri Lanka by Sri Lankans – may be foreign observers allowed. Have you been able to persuade even your “Sagala” Vasudeva Nanayakkara to propose this and lead this within the Parliament? You have even failed to do this, so what persuasive powers do you have… Nothing.

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      You are no estate or any other Thamizh but a Chingkalla Poruki

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        For your information I am a Proud Estate Tamil whose Grand Father was a Labourer and I his Grand Son is an MBA. Rest in Peace!

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          Still telling fibs and fairy tales. You are no Estate Thamizh but a Chingkallam. Trying now to cunningly divide Thamizh by pretending to be a Malaiyaka Thamizh. Calling your self an Estate Thamizh instead of Malaiyaka Thamizh , gave the game away and your Chingkalla racist mentality.

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          One estate Tamil I know is a doctor. His parents were poor estate labourers. His mother plucked tea while his father worked as a sweeper/cleaner. His parents got a small house and land under a government housing scheme in the late 1980’s/early 1990s. He always says how grateful he is to Srilanka, and asks where in the world the government built a million houses for the poor and which poor country can provide free education for everyone like Srilanka has managed? He is also very much aware that had his family been in Tamilnadu he would just be a coolie from one of the depressed castes. When it comes to the non-estate Tamils, i.e the Tamils who claim to be indigenous to SL, they have just been complaining and sabotaging all development plans and policies brought for fair distribution of university education, housing, land and other resources. They call these policies discriminatory. I am very happy and proud to have Tamils like you among us and we should do everything to better the lives of the Plantation Tamils who have fed all of us for decades (I do not want to call the estate Tamils as Hill country Tamils because this can lead to another problem like in the north and east. North and East Tamils want estate Tamils to desperately join them in their fight against the Sinhalese, but they do not want to treat the estate Tamils as equals. For the Sinhalese we are all equals in this island as long as sections of the population don’t ask for chunks of our island to set up separate states. If anybody seeks to take away even one inch of this island away from us, then they obviously are not equals but our enemies).

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            Estate Tamil

            Tamil homeland is a place where Not only the Tamils from the northeast but also from the hill country are welcome.

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            Punchi Point


            Brilliant
            Thanks for letting us know your humble beginning.
            I also respect you for telling us how you feel.

            Why are you pretending to be someone when you are doing well in your life and why are you trying to fit in with others?

            Be yourself.

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            May be but this so called Estate Thamizh is not Thamizh at all but a Chingkallam . Estate Thamizh is a derogatory term now used largely by Chingkallams for Malayaka Thamilar. Most of the so called Chingkala Karawa , Salagamma, Durawa , Berewa and many of the Kandyan Radala and upper Govigamma arrived from Thamizh Nadu only a century or before the so called Malayaka Thamizh. Call them also estate Thamizh as they were largely recruited to work in the southern spice estates by the Dutch.

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      Estate Tamil

      You must be a muslim fool. Stick your advice up your arse. North and east is the Tamil homeland.

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    Many of the commentators here may be either Buddhists or Hindus. They all, perhaps, believe in rebirth or reincarnation. If so, there is the possibility that a Sinhala bigot being born a Tamil in the next birth or a Tamil bigot being born a Sinhalese. And then they can take up the quarrel once again from the opposite side!

    What a shame that society forces us to identify ourselves by language and religion rather than just as human beings? These identifiers are drilled into us from infancy. If we are brought up without these identifiers, we may learn to respect each other better. But who knows, we might find something else to quarrel about?

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      CBG

      I agree with you, that is why we are asking our Sinhala Buddhist brothers to agree to a deal with Us Tamil Hindus. If we agree to an honourable settlement then this quarrel will stop.

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      C.B. Goonatilake,

      The problem is not necessarily with the Buddhist Sinhalese. In India, the same exact issue exists with Tamil Nadu. Tamils refuse to sing the national anthem in Hindi, teach Hindi in Tamil schools, recognize Hindi as the official language of India, etc. In earlier times, there were separatist movements in TN as well. You can clearly see, there is a strong desire on the part of the Tamil polity to remain apart from anything non-Tamil. In other words, a clear refusal to integrate/assimilate with mainstream society. This is the fundamental issue.

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    A ‘MODAYA’ is a person who is unable to perceive the distinction between FEDERALISM and SECESSIONISM. That means 80 percent of Sinhala Buddhists!

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      Stan,
      Sinhala Buddhists know the difference between FEDERALISM and SECESSIONISM. ‘Para’ Demalu who are the descendants of slaves from Hindusthan and given citizenship in Sinhale by Sinhalayo have no justification to talk about a separate State, Federal System or maximum devolution of power. Demanding this sort of things from Native Sinhalayo who helped these Stateless ‘Para’ people display their uncivilized and ungrateful nature.

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        Tamils say they gave culture, Language, names and many other things to Sinhala people who talk about OUR SINHALA LAND CALLED SONHALE, 2600 year old sinhala buddhist culture, Reservoir-Paddy fiEld-village-Temple based civilization. What does tamils do. Bharathanatayam, seelapatikaram, manimekala but still going behind Tamilnadu for everything else. If we ask, they you burned every in the Jaffna library. Tamils still can not give up their CASTE-BASED SOCIAL OPPRESSION AND SUBJUGATION.

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      STAN: A How intelligent is TAMILS who could not win their freedom struggle from the late comers Sinhala Buddhists for 30 years ?

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        JD

        The struggle is not over yet.

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    Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam….. Are you truly a medical doctor practicing as of now???
    What were your losses in investment on ltte mlitary machine??
    Do you not feel remorseful for stealing the lives and the loss of Tamil youth & children who were denied their dreams of being a doctor by supporting a senseless uprising against the GOSL???
    Do you still continue to harp on hatred??
    If so, your mind must be in a muddle.

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    Fact of the matter is: there is no benefit for the individual sri lanken be it buddhist/tamil or Muslim who lives a average life, who’s first priority is food/shelter/schooling for kids of the country being two or one. The politicos be it tamil or buddhist or muslims want control for their own benefit, The soilders be it SL army or LTTE, fought and gave their life for what? Gots to steal/ Bond scam and Gnansara to start another war. The politicos most in Sri Lanka , their family lives in the west as citizens and their investments are in the west.eg: Aluthgamage/gots/chandrika etc… This Land Sri Lanka is to milk from so there generations can live happily in the west.
    Economy is not for the politicos to control, it is too valuable to leave it to them, as people will suffer if people dont kick them out for poor management of the Economy. With strong economy comes security, if we leave decisions only to government, most decisions will be decided by the commisions the Minister/President get. Mig bribes/Sri Lanken Airlines.

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    I was born in mid 60’s in Manipay Green memorial hospital my birth certificate is in English.
    My friend got Tamil birth certificate.and his wife got sinhala birth certificate,to get passport both have to same hurdle to get translate in English in order to get passport.
    For me find it hassle free.
    Higher education in English,
    Why cant we have common language as English
    We all equal and same right as Sri Lankan and move forward,all our human resources are to serve the foreigners in the name of migration.all our students wants foreign uni,we brought back from China recently,
    In 70’s lot of Sri Lankans teschers were recruited for western Afficans countries.
    We elect them then blame them.we as sri lankans unite and stand together to build solid country,we got all the god given nature,the country belongs to the citizens,not by religion nor language.
    Islam,Hindu,Christians followers have many languages but ultimatum is one.
    But here we have ego language base religion to tarnish the Lord (not god)Buddha and the country.and proud to.be adopted religion and champion

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      Jay: You can move overseas and live instead of asking everybody change because of you.

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    To the Editor,
    The Colombo Telegraph appears to provides a platform for both columnists and readers to entertain each other.

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    Well well vigy the pigy back on stage creating a bit of drama fearing he will be dethroned before the end of his life, which is about couple of years away. I will definetly visit the grave because I want to urinate on it.

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    This is especially for that Blind Eagle Eye and other idiots who go on in circles.
    What was Devanampiya Tissa before he converted to Buddhism which was brought from India?
    He was a Hindu Saivite called Devan ampiya Teesan. So all the other inhabitans in the country were also Saivite Hindus, where many also converted to Buddhism Ever heard of Sinhala Saivite Hindus?! Ha Ha Ha.

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    STAN: A How intelligent is TAMILS who could not win their freedom struggle from the late comers Sinhala Buddhists for 30 years ?

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