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Of A Sustained Buddhist Extremism In Sri Lanka

By Raashid Riza

Raashid Riza

The last few months have seen a rapid increase in anti-Muslim sentiment amongst sections of the political class in Sri Lankan society. The situation has yet to deteriorate to the extent that the default image of a Sri Lankan Muslim is one represented by an anti-Sri Lankan or anti-Buddhist element. But the trend that is developing is truly alarming and surely points towards such an inaccurate mental image.

The rise of extremist Buddhists in Sri Lanka is truly disturbing and does not bode well to the sense of national resilience that the government is trying to foster, at least in its rhetoric.

There is to be a protest march in Colombo today that is supposedly against ‘Islamic Extremism’. The leaflet however, unable to find tangible examples of Islamic extremism in Sri Lanka, instead highlights international examples. The leaflet was first tweeted by Groundviews and was then picked up by other bloggers. The language used in the leaflet is particularly confrontational and is written in jargon generously peppered with phrases such as ‘enough of being silent’ as a precursor to the more confrontational language that follows.

The leaflet speaks of numerous instances where it alleges that Islamic extremism has acted malevolently towards Buddhists and Buddhist holy sites in many parts of world, including in Burma, Thailand, Afghanistan and even the eastern parts of Sri Lanka. It is clearly designed to fuel the ignorance of the apolitical (mostly innocent) Buddhists against the Muslims and is therefore composed of materials that are innate historical inaccuracies at best and factually vacuous at worst. It specifically refers to the recent incidents in the south of Bangladesh where there have been attacks on Buddhists by groups of Muslims. Of course nowhere is the ethnic cleansing of Rohingya Muslims by Buddhist extremists in adjacent Burma mentioned.

The last paragraph of this leaflet quite explicitly states something on the lines of: it is time to show that this (Sri Lanka) is a Buddhist country by word and deed; many have forgotten that this is a Buddhist country, this notion should be reawakened. Extremists should be struck down as they flee. When cruel Islamic extremists prey on other innocent Buddhists, and when the entire world remains silent in the wake of it, it is time that we reawaken our race (Sinhala Buddhists) to respond to this.

The implications of the call to “reawaken” invoked in this context is particularly disturbing.

Sri Lankan Muslims have absolutely nothing to do with the alleged crimes against Buddhists or Buddhist interests in Bangladesh. Similarly Sri Lankan Sinhalese and Buddhists have absolutely nothing to do with the heinous crimes committed against the Muslims of Burma. What these Buddhist extremists seek to achieve for the alleged benefit of their Buddhist compatriots abroad remains to be seen. For Buddhists who feel that they are persecuted in other parts of the world, this exercise by minute sections of the Sri Lankan Buddhist community will be futile. Surely the Buddhist leadership in Sri Lanka is intelligent enough to grasp this fact. What exactly then does this exercise seek to achieve?

The result of these sorts of protests (yes, plural, this is to be one of a series of protests) are multiple.

Sinhala – Muslim relations have always been cordial and strong. The current generation of Sri Lankans cannot easily be buoyed into buying an argument that Sri Lankan Muslims are a bane on the nation’s social fabric. Buddhism as a faith has thus far survived the vulture-esque assault by sections of a largely secular media that paints most religious faiths as violent, something that protests such as these threaten to undo. Moreover, Sri Lanka is rebuilding itself as a nation after decades of conflict that not only curtailed and stunted growth but also damaged it. Creating an environment that will marginalise Muslims can sow the seeds of future conflict.

Yesterday, the All Ceylon Jamiyathul Ulema (ACJU), the main decision-making theological body for Sri Lankan Muslims, released a media communiqué condemning the attacks on Bangladeshi Buddhists. The wisdom of releasing this communiqué is certainly questionable. Whether the ACJU has released statements for similar causes previously is anybody’s guess. There is no doubt that the body acted in the best interests of Sri Lankan Muslims and of Sri Lanka as a whole, yet the timing or indeed decision to make such an overture seems hasty.

The despicable acts on Bangladeshi Buddhists have absolutely nothing to do with Sri Lankan Muslims. However, such a press release can create the impression amongst wider Sri Lankans of a sense of guilt amongst Sri Lankan Muslims when there is none due to there being no grounds for guilt. Additionally, the release of such a statement can institutionalise the necessity to release communiqués almost every time a Buddhist place of worship is attacked anywhere in the World, thereby creating an undue burden of responsibility.

Elie Appelbaum of York University comments in her research paperExtremism as a Strategic Tool in Conflicts:

“as a country becomes wealthier, more powerful, or more democratic, its level of extremism decreases, but at the same time, its rival’s level of extremism increases. Similarly, higher stakes in the conflict tend to increase the level of extremism in the relatively poorer, weaker, and less democratic country, but decrease the level of extremism in the other country. The countries can use extremism as a strategic tool in the conflict. The use of extremism is a double-edged sword: extremism provides a credible threat, but it also involves a risk. Similarly, when the countries are sufficiently asymmetric, higher stakes in the conflict tend to increase extremism in the country that is relatively poorer, weaker, or less democratic.”

Now, replace the word ‘countries’ with ‘communities’ in the paragraph above and see how it reads. The roots of extremism rest in vested interests of various interest groups as much as it does on the absence of law and order and the socio-economic state of the parties in conflict. The Sri Lankan economy at the grassroots is in turmoil and the Sinhalese community, as the larger ethnic group, is the most affected. An economically weak nation with near bankrupt sections of the public can foster groups that are represented by intellectually bankrupt individuals who posture as leaders at a local or national level and exploit patriotism for their ends. As Samuel Johnson wrote, “Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel”. One only need observe a group of scoundrels against a group of self-confessed patriots to realise that there is too often much in common.

The 1915 riots are commonly known as the ‘Sinhala – Muslim’ riots, not by the name of individuals. The way in which the Sri Lankan Muslims react now will determine how history will testify for or against them. In the future, no matter what the political situation in Sri Lanka, the Muslim community will continue to exist in every strata of society.

Muslims in Sri Lanka are living in politically perilous times; they reside amongst a largely accommodative Sinhalese and Tamil population, apart from the odd elements that opportunistically seeks to whip up racial tensions. In the short term the Muslims should act prudently and actively within the framework of Sri Lankan law. They would do well to deal indifferently towards bankrupt extremism and not dignify it by seeking to confront it, except with a pragmatism that respects legal and constitutional norms. In the long term they should be conscious that Sri Lankan Muslims are more tangible as a constituent element of Sri Lankan nationhood than a transient Buddhist extremism. The latter not only misrepresents Sri Lankan Buddhists at large but is against a unified vision of Sri Lankan nationhood.

*Raashid Riza is the Multimedia Editor of The Platform. He tweets on @aufidius. Above article was first published in the www.the-platform.org.uk

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    We have to blame the extremist groups like that of our Rauf Hakeem the disgraceful pathetic excuse for a human. And others like gamanpila and Pataliputra who sport a Buddhist persona while being liars and opportunists.
    Islamist extreamists are bad as they do not worry about who they destroy ,in their misunderstood version of their religion. These Buddhist extreamists do not know the first thing about Buddhism . Stealing is bad . Shielding thieves for opportunism is worse. Murder is bad protecting murderers. .
    All opportunists Muslim Buddhist to otherwise should rot in hell

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      Better rot here so that we all can see

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      If buddhists became violent because of buddhism, then they are not Buddhists.

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        Somapala says:

        “If buddhists became violent because of buddhism, then they are not Buddhists.”

        The Buddhists became Sinhala/Buddhist hence the violence.

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      There are three types of Buddhism:

      1. Theravada Buddhism
      2. Mahayana Buddhism
      3. Sinhala Buddhism.

      Sinhala (Mahavamsa) Buddhism is invented in SL and about 80% of Sinhalese and almost all the members of the Sinhala-Bauddha Maha Sangha follow this concept.

      This Buddhism is mainly Barbaric in nature and is centered on violence, intolerance, hatred, increased libido, alcohol consumption, materialism, involvement in dirty politics and racism.

      The saffron-robed Sinhala-Buddhist sangha is no less than the Taliban. They even act like terrorists at certain times as we have seen in many instances. I have personally witnessed them lobbing a hand grenade at the Colombo Sharuk Khan show a few years ago. They even assassinated one of our Prime Ministers.

      Let us not confuse true Buddhism with Sinhala-Buddhism.

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      People must be aware of vested interests in destabilising the country by manufacturing an “enemy” to hate, where it becomes lucrative for arms dealers, commission takers etc on the one hand and provides a good distraction for mainstream attention while nefarious purposes are surreptitiously promoted and fleecing continues.

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    It is my view that all most all people(except a very few) observing Islamic religion are selfish and have no concern for others. In order to materialise their selfishness they do all wrongs and uncivilised things in the name of the Islamic religion. I have no knoledge of Islam religion in order to be satisfied my self that the Islamic religion approve all those illegal unethical and cruel things committed by majority of muslims. In fact I have no faith in them at all They have no compassion kindness in their hearts.Can any one in this world approve the way in which they kill animals in the name of their All mighty God? Why every where in the muslim world conflict exist treating the human beings as animals they kill.In the name of brother hood they deny the rights people who observe relion other than Islam.

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      W.H Sumanasiri

      Are you saying the Sinhales Buddhists have a better track record? It is not Islam or Buddhism that is at fault. It is the fact that both religions/ philosophies are represented by human beings. As a result, both religions are vulnerable to human opportunism, corruption and ignorance.

      You are trying very hard to do exactly what Raashid accuses certain Sinhala Buddhists of (and he has every right to make this accusation). We try to paint the Muslims in Sri Lanka with the same brush as that of Muslims in Afghanistan/Pakistan.

      The reality is, the Afghanistan/Pakistan Muslim equivalent in Sri Lanka are the Sinhala Buddhists, not the Muslims! You clearly show an ability to judge Muslims as a whole, but you have made no comment about the way the Sinhalese Buddhists behave.

      So as another religious leader once taught his subjects (another religion in which the teachings of the teacher has been casually ignored in order to create a powerful and wealthy movement) – first take the plank out of your own eye, before you try to take the spec out of your brother’s!

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      It is absurd for Raashid Riza to claim that “The rise of extremist Buddhists in Sri Lanka is truly disturbing”. I insist that there are no extremists among Buddhists.

      Riza says, “There is to be a protest march in Colombo today that is supposedly against ‘Islamic Extremism’. The leaflet however, unable to find tangible examples of Islamic extremism in Sri Lanka, instead highlights international examples.”

      But first, let me start like this: Over 90% of the population in Sri Lanka believes and/or seek help from many Deities or Gods. Yet Muslims who are less than 10% display a slogan ‘there is no God but Allah’ is at their three-wheelers and other vehicles. I am not saying for a moment that Muslims are not entitled to believe in ‘One God’ named Allah. But is it not a deliberate provocative by them to display a notice in public and hurt religious belief of the majority. But teaching by Muhammad has no place for belief and feelings of others.

      I need not go further than Allah, Koran, Hadith and Muhammad to prove intolerance embedded in Islam and Muslims. Koran is full of ‘Kill’, ‘slay’, ‘smite’ and similar nasty words. Whenever we have pointed it out, Muslims have accused us for talking ‘out of context’. Actually, they use the phrase ‘out of context’ to oblige us to listen to their justification for Muhammad to utter such nasty words and incite his followers to destroy idols and kill, rape and plunder the wealth of those who rejected his faith. One only has to read Hadith to understand this.

      Koran verses (5:101-102) says; “O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.” And, commenting on Muhammad’s reaction to hostile questioners, vol. 2, no. 555; and vol. 3, no. 591 of Bukhari’s Hadith says “The prophet was asked about things which he did not like, and when the questioner insisted, the Prophet got angry. (vol. 1, no. 92) The Prophet got angry and his cheeks or his face became red. And vol. 1, no. 91 says; “Allah has hated you…[for] asking too many questions.” That means; Muslims are forbidden to question Islamic faith, and are expected to accept its truthfulness blindly without investigation. This is the primary reason for Islamic intolerance.

      Riza may not know that we Buddhists are not averse ask questions. Indeed Buddha had advised us some 2550 years ago that we should not accept anything because a teacher says so, or tradition says so, or family says so, or religious founder says so, or even Buddha says so. He advised us to think ourselves and ponder before making a decision. And that is exactly what we are doing here. It’s not fair to accuse us for following Buddha’s advice. After all it is a sensible advice not just for Buddhists but for everyone.

      Now let me tell you what goes in my mind: What Muhammad founded was not a religion, or a cult, or a way of life but a constitution and manifesto for him to tame and rule the tribally divided Arabs. Muhammad called his followers a nation called Islam. He used Jew’s scriptures to formulate basic tenants of his constitution and manifesto. He put together the rest to suit each and every situation he faced. Muhammad claimed it all came from Allah. But, when he felt ashamed of Allah’s earlier revelations he attributed them to Satan. Whenever Muhammad craves to do socially unacceptable things he got Allah to pour out new revelations abundantly to get his way.

      Once you join the Islam nation, there is no way out; Islam’s constitution and manifesto force them to remain Muslims; it brainwashes its subjects to love Muhammad more than their life and family. And that propel them to defend all vile and lecherous acts of the founder blindly. Islam nation go mad even on a simple cartoon or a film. There is no place for a rational argument on the constitution and manifesto of Islam nation within or outside. Those who try to discuss or evaluate shortcomings in it would be issued with a fatwa and condemned to death.

      So, it’s up to Muslims to face our queries on Islam and answer them rationally without lurking in the shade as we should read Koran in right context.
      Leela

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        Leela

        thinks:

        “I insist that there are no extremists among Buddhists.”

        I hate to agree with you.

        There are no Buddhists in Sri Lanka. However, you have Sinhala/Buddhists who have nothing to do with Buddha’s teaching, Sunday Sil Monday Kill variety,

        Or you have “Kill the Vedda, Rob the Buddha, Blame the Sudda” variety.

        Please let me know which category fits you well.

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          hey vedda
          Sunday sill; where have you picked that from? ah’ doesn’t matter.

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          Native, Re: quotes Sunday Sil Monday Kill and Kill the Vedda, Rob the Buddha, Blame the Sudda…

          I have to say, as much as it hurts me to admit, being a so called ‘Sinhala Buddhist’, that does sum us up pretty nicely… :(

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        An Islamic slogan displayed on a three-wheeler has provocated Leela and s/he believes that 90% of the Sri Lankans will feel get hurt due to this. This comment is not only childish but absolutely hilarious. Leela may not know that the Buddhist establishment in SL with the support of the armed forces and with the blessings of the government are erecting planting boo trees/Buddha statues and building Buddhist structures in places in the North & East where there are NO Buddhists at all. What is the justification for planting Buddha statues for Muslims and Hindus? If a display of an Islamic slogan on a three-wheel by a Muslim is hurting Leela, what has s/he got to say about this kind of attitude of the Buddhists? Will s/he call it provocative and hurtful or is s/he a hypocrite to justify it as a good will gesture by the Buddhists to Non-Buddhists?

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          A Sri LAnkan citicen:

          Sinhala Buddhists allowed you to establish christian churches, and muslim mosques in Sri Lanka.

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          Jim Softy,

          Ha, ha,ha when did that happen? Do you have any historical records to prove? Who told you SL is a Sinhala-Buddhist country in the first place? Can you find any historical records to prove that SL was a pure Sinhala-Buddhist country at any given time in history? Right from the beginning of known history, there were many different ethnic groups and many different religions in SL.

          You must be thankful to the Suddhas and the Muslims for not completely destroying the Buddhist and Hindu temples and building Churches and Mosques as they did elsewhere like Bangaladesh and other places.

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        Leela

        “Koran is full of ‘Kill’, ‘slay’, ‘smite’ and similar nasty words. “

        Bhavat Gita in essence justifies killing.

        Why do you target Islam as nasty religion and Muslims are nastier than the rest of the people?

        In 1971 18,000 Sinhala speaking youth were killed.

        Between 1987 and 1991 130,000 innocent Sinhala speaking youth were either killed or made to disappear.

        The last 30 years have seen the killing of over 100,000 Tamil speaking people.

        In all three atrocities it was the Sinhala/Buddhists armed forces which was intrumental in killing most of the innocent people.

        There were killings by Tamil/Saivaite too.

        In 1915, 1956, 1958, 1977, 1983 it was the Sinhala/Buddhist who killed innocent people from minority communities, motivated by safron clad Sinhala/Buddhists.

        May be that I got it wrong, the killing of innocent people from 1915 to 1983 were carried out by Cholas, Kalingas, Pandyas, S J Selvanayagam, Pon Ramanathan, GG Ponna, Amir,….LTTE, ….etc and not by Sinhala/Buddhists.

        Therefore you may want to conclude that Sinhala/Buddhists had never killed, do not kill, will never kill.

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        @Leela

        I wonder why you want to misquote and distort the teachings of religons other than your own. If you are not knowledgable on the subject it is best to remain silent.
        The correct explanation of the quoted verses and hadith are as follows and are nothing like what you allege. If you want to study Islam ask from a proper Muslim instead of reading anti Islamic sites on the web.

        Allaah Says (what means): {O you who have believed, do not ask about things which, if they are shown to you, will distress you. But if you ask about them while the Quran is being revealed, they will be shown to you. Allaah has pardoned it [i.e. that which is past]; and Allaah is Forgiving and Forbearing. A people asked such [questions] before you; then they became thereby disbelievers.} [Quran 5:101-102]

        This verse prohibits the Muslims from asking about things they have no benefit in asking about, because if such matters appear to them it may be harmful to them and it will be difficult for them to hear it, like the person who asked the Prophet : ‘‘Where is my father (in the Hereafter)? The Prophet replied: ‘‘In Hellfire.’’, or the person who asked about Hajj: ‘‘Is it every year, o Prophet of Allaah?’’, whereupon the Prophet replied: ‘‘No, and if I replied by ‘yes’, it would become an obligation on you to perform it every year and you will not be able to do so .’’

        These examples are reported about the reasons for which the verse was revealed, and similar to this are the questions asked just in order to mock the person or to ask rigid questions without any benefit.

        To conclude, this verse was revealed because of asking about things that have no benefit, or because of asking too much, or asking in order to mock, or test someone or to argue with him only for the sake of argument.

        Sahih Bukhari – Hadith No: 92

        Volume : 1
        Book : 3
        Subject : Knowledge
        Narrator : Abu Musa

        The Prophet was asked about things which he did not like, but when the questioners insisted, the Prophet got angry. He then said to the people, “Ask me anything you like.” A man asked, “Who is my father?” The Prophet replied, “Your father is Hudhafa.” Then another man got up and said, “Who is my father, O Allah’s Apostle ?” He replied, “Your father is Salim, Maula (the freed slave) of Shaiba.” So when ‘Umar saw that (the anger) on the face of the Prophet he said, “O Allah’s Apostle! We repent to Allah (Our offending you).”

        Sahih Bukhari Volume 002, Book 024, Hadith Number 555.

        Sahih Bukhari Book 24. Obligatory Charity Tax (Zakat)

        Narated By Ash-sha’bi : The clerk of Al-Mughira bin Shu’ba narrated, “Muawiya wrote to Al-Mughira bin Shu’ba: Write to me something which you have heard from the Prophet (p.b.u.h) .” So Al-Mughira wrote: I heard the Prophet saying, “Allah has hated for you three things:

        1. Vain talks, (useless talk) that you talk too much or about others.
        2. Wasting of wealth. (by extravagance)
        3. And asking too many questions (in disputed religious matters) or asking others for something (except in great need). (See Hadith No. 591, Vol. Ill)

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          Muslim,
          I don’t speak Arabic. So, I had to rely on translations and of cause the internet. Don’t get me wrong; I read Muslim sites as well as Christian and Jewish sites. Otherwise how would I know short comings and the fallacies of Islam

          I do not fear Allah. So, I need not be a blind Muhammadan like you. I have an open mind. So, I explore not just the Koran but all the Old and New Testament books as well. I may not be able to quote word by word in them but I have pretty good comprehensions of everything written in them in essence. I read Atheist sites too.

          To explore further, I expose fallacies and question adherents from all angles and listen to all their replies.

          Though Muhammad claimed Allah is indeed Yahweh Jews and Christians hadn’t accepted it. I myself have doubts whether Allah is a different God for there is this mind boggling numerous variations of creation details in Allah’s early revelations (Bibles) and the last (Koran).

          True Allah praised Jews Prophets Jews and Christian books as his early revelations at the beginning, but then not only he changed his stance but accused Jews and Christians of being idolaters and went on to destroy them.

          Jew and Christians have their story and Muslims have theirs. But we in the middle should decide who is to be blamed.

          For one thing it is Koran verses like 5:33 has made them eternal enemies. It says; “The punishment for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive after corruption, making mischief in the land [those who refuse to surrender to Islam] is murder, execution, crucifixion, the cutting off of hands and feet on opposite sides, or they should be imprisoned. That is their degradation and disgrace in this world. And a great torment of an awful doom awaits them in the hereafter.”

          Jews and Christians say that is the most torturous verse ever issued in the name of a religion. They question whether “Making mischief” – a war of words – is sufficient to warrant imprisonment, mutilation, assassination, and crucifixion. They claim; those who reject Islam are to be humiliated and maimed – having their hands and feet cut off – so that they might be disgraced.

          Surely, if Allah and Yahweh is the same ‘One God’ that Abraham met in the desert first, and if he is all powerful as Muhammad, Moses etc said, he wouldn’t set his children that much against each other.
          Leela

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          The Quran and hadith are in arabic. So one needs to know the languagee to fully comprehend and explain the meanings in the context of the revelations. The revelations were made over a period of 23 years and some abrogated the previous. So your contention that you ‘know’cannot be accepted. Even I as a Muslim do not claim to ‘know’everything about Islam let alone another religon.
          Does this give us the right to criticise another religon and demonize people following another faith. I think not. Muslims and people of any other faith have the full right guranteed by the constitution of thiis country and UN charter of human rights to follow their religon.
          If you quote from the Quran do so truthfully and completely without creating unneccesary ill feeling and mischief amongst people and communities living peacefully in this country. If you are interested in religon you have the complete freedom to study the Quran and Hadith at your leisure or you could vist the local mosque and ask your questions. Misleading and baiting people with unfounded hurtful comments is not what religon or civilised behaviour is about. You should find a better way of doing your research than creating problems in society.
          Please see the following link about a recent incident in Singapore where a person posted a racist comment on facebook. It is a good example for us. No wonder Singapore is a dvaloped nation while we are so backward.
          http://www.zdnet.com/sg/spore-racist-saga-shows-online-self-policing-works-7000005664/

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          Muslim;
          Quran, in 121 places uses the word KILL.

          What do you say about that ?

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        SriLanka Mirror (June 03), A young Buddhist monk has been arrested for allegedly raping a pregnant woman, aged 23 years, in Walasmulla. The incident had taken place around 1.30 pm yesterday as the 17-year-old monk had been visiting homes, purportedly to collect charity. The woman had been alone at her home.

        A team of Police Narcotic Bureau has arrested a Buddhist monk with heroin in his possession at the entrance of Cancer hospital in Maharagama on Wednesday (15). The suspect is from Welfare center at Nallawtta, Maharagama and at the time of arrest he was in his possession of one gram of heroin, police said. Police Narcotic Bureau is conducting further investigations

        The Special Task Force (STF) arrested a Buddhist monk and four others who allegedly engaged in felling trees in the Embilipitiya, Gal Amunadola Forest Reserve.

        The STF seized a stock of timber worth Rs 312,000 from their possession at the time of the arrest.

        Investigations revealed the monk is a resident of a temple in Modarawana, Embilipitiya.

        The suspects are to be produced before court.

        The police arrested a shameless sex starved 68 year old Buddhist Prelate who had cruelly raped a 10 year old Samanera monk of the same Temple. Following an investigation based on a complaint received by the Nagoda police on the 21st that an under aged samanala monk had been brutally raped at about 22.10 in the night of 2012-06-01 in the Yatalamaththa Suramyarama Vihara , Nagoda police under which division this temple comes has arrested this rapist. The Nagoda police is conducting further investigations.

        Child rights activists in Sri Lanka have criticised a plan by the prime minister to ordain 2,600 boys as Buddhist monks by next May. Prime Minister DM Jayaratne says the move is aimed at boosting Buddhism and lifting young people out of poverty. Activists say the boys are too young to be ordained. There have also been reports of sexual abuse in the temples
        What a SHAME.. Is this the ONLY way to uplift sinhalese children out of poverty in Sri lanka?

        Buddha may have never imagined that his philosophy will fall in the hands of sinhalese criminals? Today, the other name of Buddhists can be called as ‘Criminals’. Starting from monks, they do not know the difference between good and bad because of the nature they were brought-up! In SL, only a Dead Buddhist is a good Buddhist.

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          NOORA:

          Mohamad, Your messenger, himself had young children as wives.

          How many wives he had ?

          He was a womanizer.

          Provide me evidence to disprove it.

          A monk being a thief is nothing. Sri Lanka had thieves becoming monks, in bad faith, in order to avoid law.

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          Jim Softy,

          Ha, ha,ha Can you provide relaiable evidence for all what you are saying. You also seem to be one of those people who invent things from thin air.

          There are pictures with naked women in the Buddhist temples, it is said that Buddha after having sex with many of them, got so fed up that he went and sat under the bo tree to meditate.

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        Leelo,
        if you are wellred about islamic literiture, could you please explain how Mohmammend as (humanbeing) communicated with God – as the muslims blindly believe in today ? How has this communication taken place – between humanbeing and physcially non-existing god ?

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          Leela,

          Have you read the Buddhist scriptures (Tripitika)?

          In Nandivisala Jataka, we have an intelligent talking bull that could pull hundred carts.

          The Mirga Jataka talks about a deer that saved a drowning merchant and later preached the hamma to the king who was hunting.

          In Sivi Jataka, king Sivi redeemed a pigeon by giving his own flesh, an exactly identical story is found in the Mahabharata.

          How did this happen?

          Another Jataka story which the Buddhists strongly believe is the Kusa Fathakaya, where the Bodhisattva was born as Kusa, and married a beautiful princess Pabawathie. Sakra the king of Gods came unnoticed by any one while Pabawathie was asleep and rubbed her navel with his toe. This caused her to conceive without any intimacyual congress. This is very similar to the virgin conception (mother of Jesus Christ) and oral conception (mother of Sri Rama).

          Islam is the One and Only One religion that does not have any such unbelievable stupid stories. Mohammed was an illiterate person but look at the vast amount of knowledge he has said in the Koran.

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          Leelo, further to my last comment contd.

          Many of us who are non- muslims are not comphrehensible how the communication could have taken place. Advance physical theories could surely help understanding this but the average would still remain with confusion how it could have happened.

          And the second question would be unlike other religious adherents,many muslims in general seem to have UNEXPLAINABLE fears in them if they fail to practise their prayers – this I really cant understand ? I have met morroccans who re strong muslims by their own manner, but as I happened to notice – most of them continue to pray not by their own, but because of fears. Some wanted to pursuade me asking that they should help me because they are well aware I am on a wrong path as a non-muslim. How can they be that confident to insist that the muslims are on the correct path being connected to Allah.

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          Thambiya:

          You don’t know what you are talking.

          We buddhists don’t believe at all about a almighty god. Not only for us, for a person who thinks, almighty god is just madness.

          Even the modern science says that there is no need to have an almighty god.

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          Jim Softy,
          You must be one of the jokers in this forum. Even 10 year old children have better arguing skills than you. I read all your replies here, it reminds me the Sinhala saying “where are you going, coconut in my bag”. When people are talking about apple, your reply is all about pineapple.

          I did not talk about almighty God here, please read what I have commented and reply if you are knowledgeable enough, you seem to be a total ignorant not knowing even your own faith.

          On the other hand, almighty God is a huge concept that people of your nature (I mean retards) will never ever be able to comprehend for please do not hurt your pea brain with big issues.

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          Thambiya,
          Remember, Buddha is not the creator God or a simple God. Buddha is unbelievably intelligent human. Hence, Pali cannon (tripitake) is not a word of God.

          Now, ‘Jataka kata’ are a division of Tripitake. They are in the Khuddaka Nikaya of the Sutta Pitaka.

          Jataka Kata is generally accepted as Buddhist literature (stories) that narrate previous births of the Buddha when in both human and animal form but native to India. Buddha had appeared in most of them as a king, an outcast, a god, an elephant and etc.

          We Buddhists are not in your line of thinking that everything is made by Allah for the benefit of human and for his consumption. Mind you, most animals have feelings and intelligence. They can communicate as well. Just watch the ‘Discovery’ or similar channel if you want proof. In whatever form, every Jataka tale exhibits parables and virtue that inculcates in Buddhism.

          There are 548 ‘Jataka Kata’, and Katha means stories. There is this No.381: Suchi Jatakaya, but I cannot find Jataka named Sivi or Migara. From where have you picked it up?

          You may not know but there have been many stage plays based on Kusa Jatakaya. Characters you have mentioned are there but I cannot trace the incident you have written. As I said, it’s only a story. Read it again, you can pick it up in the internet.

          You wrote; “Islam is the One and Only One religion that does not have any such unbelievable stupid stories.”
          Let me add here just a few stupid verses by Allah. Check in Koran 15:19 whether it says, the earth is flat and it spread out like a carpet. And in 20:53 the earth described as a bed. And in 30.5 it says, the sun is revolving around the earth. And 18:87 says, the sun sets every day in muddy spring water on the earth.
          Leela

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          Andreasappu

          Allah is Muhammad’s God, and Muhammad insists that Allah is the same God of Abraham named Yahweh. But Jews never accepted Muhammad is a Prophet or Allah is Yahweh.

          Now, Abraham is the originator of ‘One God’ concept. What Abraham, Moses and other Jews reveled is written in the ‘Old Bible’ books some 2000 years before Muhammad. Christian God, or son of God, Jesus is also a Jew. Though Christians have their own Bible called ‘The New Testament’ they accept ‘Old Bible’ is true as well. Now, only in the old Bible that creation story or genesis is fully narrated.

          At the beginning, Muhammad told his followers that ‘Old Bible’ books and The New Testament are earlier revelations of Allah, and in them Jews prophets had prophesied about Koran and Muhammad. But Jew reject this claim.

          Jews and Christians say; Allah has no creation story of his own; Mohammed purchased it from Jews in Mecca and when Jews realized Muhammad is plagiarizing their story they stop selling it to him.

          And Muhammad was furious. Qur’an 5:15 “O People of the Book! [Jews and Christians] There has come to you Our Apostle {Muhammad], revealing to you much that you used to hide in your Scripture, suppressing and passing over much. [ complain about not selling the Old Bible stories to Muhammad] There has come to you from Allah a (new) light [Muhammad] and a clear Book [the Koran].”

          In any case, Allah hadn’t revealed much creation details in his Koran. Whatever is there does not tally fully with the Jews Bibles.

          Consequently, Muhammad started to blame Jew and Christians for hidings original details of their books from him. And there began the rift and accusation verses against Jews and Christians as idolaters and verses that commanded to kill them. Verse after verse in Sura 5 was devoted to that.

          Now my thoughts about your question on Muhammad’s communication with Allah. In my opinion Allah could be a deity like ‘Huniam’ or any other devio in our local vocabulary. Allah or Yahweh is no creator God. If they were he would have being benign.

          Have you ever been to a village devale and seen how kapuwa get under the spell of a deity and start reciting various stories for his clients and try to fulfill their various need. If so, you can just visualize that Abraham, Muhammad and all those so-called prophets had done no different.
          Leela

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          Thambiya, to quote you, ‘Islam is the One and Only One religion that does not have any such unbelievable stupid stories. Mohammed was an illiterate person but look at the vast amount of knowledge he has said in the Koran.

          Thambiya – October 12, 2012
          10:55 pm

          Thambiya, it is in your Quoran that it is said, how Jibreel opened the chest of your Prophet Mohamed and took out two basins containing his Wisdom in one and Knowledge in the other and is supposed to have cleansed them. How on earth can you fill basins with knowledge and wisdom as both are invisible and not tangible as your unseen Allah.

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        I think the quote below is appropriate for all the “Leelas” in our country

        “Free thinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking.”

        Leo Tolstoy

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        Leela, Re: I insist that there are no extremists among Buddhists.

        Please, open your eyes! You are so good at picking the flaws of others, but you remain completely oblivious of your own ha?

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    The worst aspect of Islam is that it seeks to shut off half its adherants – females – from education, social equality & freedom to choose their partners in life.
    “Honor Killings” are approved and common.
    But those who are convicted of this in western democracies like UK,are severely punished,according to the law and never,in muslim majority countries.
    Females who refuse to marry males who desire them,are disfigured for life by throwing acid on their faces.There is no punishment imposed for this heinous crime.
    Islamist civil society is silent.
    Is not all this, ‘extremist islam’?

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      Justice, how frequent are such acts in Sri Lanka?

      Raashid has correctly made the argument that the extremism we see in certain Islamic societies overseas is not the norm in Sri Lankan Muslim communities. So why are you trying to paint them with a brush that is not relevant to them?

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        Navin Weeraratne,
        Should not sri lanka muslims protest against such acts which emear the entire muslim citizenry of the world?
        Or,should they desist,like our buddhists who kept silent when China annexed Tibet – with horrendous human rights violations on the tibetan monks,citizens and activists – which continue sporadically even now.
        Or, when monks were shot dead in Burma for protesting against the army regime’s excesses?

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          Justice, you are straying on the point. The point is, why blame Muslims in Sri Lanka for what Muslims elsewhere do?

          How they should respond to what Muslims do elsewhere is a separate issue. And as you have rightly stated, it is not different to our pathetic attitude towards Tibet! I my self have asked where the Muslim protests were following the shooting of the little girl by the Taliban. However, that remains a separate issue.

          In Sri Lanka, the Sinhala and Muslim populations have lived in peace for centuries. There have been no extremist Muslim issues in the country. So why are we the Sinhalese creating problems using the pathetic argument of what Muslims have done elsewhere? It almost seems as we are bored without conflict… Which when you think about it, seems probably closer to the truth than one would think!

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      Justice

      You have a point there.

      The Sinhala/Buddhist mostly the Govi is particular about the virginity of their daughters in law on their first night after wedding. The mothers in law go to a great length to test virginity.

      You should compare the female illitracy rate of all Sri Lankan women over the past 150 years.

      In Sri Lanka women were considered to be chattles until recent years.

      In Sri Lanka demeaning dowry and caste systems are crucial and determining factors for the selection of groom even in this day in age.

      Child abuse within the family and outside of it is ripe.

      In Europe the women were sent to mental hospital (until recently, about 50 years ago) for having illigitimate children.

      There are many things ugly about Sinhala/Tamil people.

      I am bit thick however I am bit troubled by your finger pointing at Muslims and Muslims alone whereas you (stupid Tamils as well as stupid Sinhalese) have your share of ugly behavioural problems although you are proud of being litrate one nation.

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      Dear Justice ,

      Please don’t mix up culture and religion. In India and China millions of female fetus’s are aborted; Hinduism and Buddhism have nothing to do with this practice. In ancient Arabia, before Islam’s advent the girl-child was buried alive. Even today in India Infanticide is very common.
      Honour killing was known in countries like Japan and China as well. In on the so called civilized west, men pay other men to bash up each other and we call it a sport. Will you blame Christianity for making boxing a sport?
      I have had the privilege of traveling to many so called Muslim countries. Take the case of Pakistan,a with 140MN Muslims. CNN/BBC will pick up one incident and label all Pakistanis as espousing honour killing; far from CNN’s truth.
      The root cause for archaic practices to flourish in countries like India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, is the lack of access to proper education and poverty which makes it a fertile ground for these age old ideas to grow and prosper.
      Nabil

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        nabil,
        I thought Saudi backed madrassas are there to give ‘proper’ education and training to Muslim youth in countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and etc. Such educated people interpret the Koran and answer all life problems of Muslims. If answer is not found for a specific problem in the Koran, they look for it and dig it from Sunna (Muhammad’s life and practices) and pass a judgement.

        In such a judgement in Pakistan a young woman was sentenced to death for “adultery” by stoning after she had been raped by her husband’s brother. Says; New York Times, May 17, 2002. The woman had accused her brother-in-law of raping her. But her own accusation became a good enough proof for ‘having intercourse outside of marriage.’ According to Sura 4:15 such crime is punishable by death.

        So, the culture is obviously wrapped with religious dogma.
        Leela

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          Leela

          Despite your sarcasm, little knowledge in the hands of an ignoramus is dangerous. Granted, Madrasas provide a narrow worldview as much as Dhaham Schools do. the unfortunate thing is that it is the only schooling available to many Muslims.

          The West perpetuate their double standards and will chase after the bogey of Islamic Extremism. It is in their interest to propagate hatred so that they can buy ME oil cheap and win Jewish funding for their political projects.
          What beats me is that intelligent people like you buy into this; we Sri Lankan Muslims live in peace among the Sinhalese and irks you and you label us extremist.

          My appeal to you is to judge us by what we do and not by what our books say

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        Nabil,
        I wish all Muslims think like you do. Until at least they are many, I agree that there are many Muslims that talk to us like you. The problem is; the contents of your Koran is nothing like our Thripitaka. Hence Pansala Sunday school and Madrasas couldn’t be teaching the same, I mean non-violence. For that, a lot of Koran verses have to be withdrawn. Then it will be a hotel without parippu.

        There are nasty verses not suitable for a peaceful religion in the New Testament as well; like in these verses: Matt. 10:34–37 and Luke 22:36,Matthew 19:29 and Mark 10:29 Luke 14:26,Mark 9:43-48, Luke 12:5. And there are lot more in the old Bible books though nowhere near the Koran.
        Leela

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          Leela

          I’m confused. If there isn’t anything in ‘our Thripitaka’ that is violent, how do our monks justify blessing soldiers and corrupt politicians etc?

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    Sri Lankan Muslims are moderate like those of progressive Islamic countries like Dubai, Egypt, Turkey etc.
    In my opinion, you have mistaken our Muslim leaders.
    My problem is, as a Sri Lankan Buddhist; How to address the Buddhist extremism in this country and how to change our country with multi racial society into a secular state.

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      Ellison

      Whether the various religious followers want to admit it or not, religion is a tool for controlling the masses. In Sri Lanka, the Buddhist movement has the power. Buddhist leaders will therefore influence their followers in a way that will ensure their power is maintained, even if it means acting out in extremely ‘un-Buddhist’ ways.

      Secularism is a great idea, much like free speech, human rights and democracy. But it threatens to solve so many social problems, it also threatens the role of politicians and religious leaders in society. For that very reason, secularism will never be fully implemented in society, and our leaders will continue to groom followers willing to act out against their own-good, in exchange for ignorant bliss via religious and nationalistic identities.

      You will find the leaders of a religion that is ‘majority’ in one country would vilify secularism in that country, while leaders of the same religion that is a minority in another country, will demand it in that country! Even in so called ‘secular’ states, you will find constant battles between governments and religious movements, with certain religious movements getting into power ‘democratically’, no different to the robe wearing politicians we have here in Sri Lanka. Separating state from religion is quite simply impossible, as there are factions of our society that are convinced by religion that stupidity in this life can bring about great reward in the next!

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      Surely, you must be a Alcott Buddhist. Anyway, your’s is the typical thinking of a yesteryear WOG and a present day Colombian who thinks ours was the best of a secular state during the rule of British Raj. Such people suffer from amnesia; they forget how British imposed their language, religion and culture on us to implant division and keep Sinhalas down for 150 years.

      Ellison; I am afraid your knowledge about Allah, Koran and Muslims must be very, very limited for you to say Sri Lankan Muslims are moderates. Muslims are Muslims; there is no difference between Sri Lankan Muslim and any other Muslim. Please read my reply to Dinuka below.
      Leela

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    I have only several questions to ask:
    1. How can we consider Sri Lankan Muslims as Sri Lankans when they support only for Muslim cricket teams all the time? Even when there are Sri Lankan Muslims in the Sri Lankan cricket why them not support Sri Lankan team instead of supportin Islam?
    Being in that how can we believe Muslims are not extremists?
    Just explain me why still you support outsiders instead of the nation. This is the nature of all Muslims all around the world. Then, are you still telling us to consider you as our part while you people are going away often from history to today????????

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      Eh? So extremism is related to what cricket team one supports?

      And the Sri Lanka team has Muslim players, but no Muslim supporters? Strange, who does the families of those players support?

      Gross generalisations by the likes of you Nimanta is the basis for all ignorance and conflict in this world…

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    Raashid Isha:

    What a Self centered man are you. Because of the protest and people are talking about ISlamic threats you USE the word “Islamic Extremism”.

    On the other hand, you forget to talk about Afghan muslims blowing up centires old two Buddhist Statues – those famous “Bamiyan buddhas”, How muslims destroyed 27 Buddhist temples in Bangladesh simply because some one posted a burned Quran in his face book page.

    Even in Sri Lanka, I read in the news, the one who had thrown rocks during the Buddhist protest in front of the Embassy had been a muslim.

    It is you muslims spread extremism all over the world

    We can see how how subversive, for decades now, is muslim expansionism in Sri Lanka. You want to paint an extremist Buddhist sentiment in order to cover what you are doing in Sri Lanka and all over the world.

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      JimSofty

      categorically says:

      “It is you muslims spread extremism all over the world”

      Have you found out as to why the minority of Muslims behave irrationally all over the world?

      Have you ever spent time looking into other religions for example Sinhala/Buddhist in Sri Lanka, Hindu thugs in India, Jews of Israel, Christians in Europe, USA and elsewhere?

      Let me see your comparative analysis with evidence of extremism in the whole world.

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      Jim, no need to go that far. Just give us facts such as the number of Buddhist temples desecrated by Muslims in Sri Lanka.

      Please watch this video and listen to the slogans and comments.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9bc5_dx76M&feature=plcp

      And tell me when did Muslims go in procession against Buddhists threatening blue murder?

      The purported procession is International Muslim Extremism and the target is local the Local Muslim including Muslim women who want to cover their modesty in a black shroud

      Alas so much for enlightenment

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    sinhala buddhist extremism in sri lanka always been reactionary,be it against the tamil racist exclusive demands initiateed by ponnambalams and chelvas in 1920s to current muslim extremism…u cant talk about a buddhist extremism in isolation without talking about rise of muslim tribal extremism to tamil tribalism..

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      billy

      the kid

      Well yours is another revisionist history.

      Kid you better start reading history proper rather than dwelling on often repeated Sinhala/Buddhist thrash and lies.

      Remember, Banda was killed by an safron clad thug, not by GG Ponna.

      Sri Lanka is the only country where safron clad Sinhala/Buddhists advocated war which was an affront to Buddha’s teaching.

      Learn Buddhism before reading history. It will make sense out of every aspect of your life. However I am not hopeful since you are a stupid Sinhala/Buddhist. Only the true Buddhists can learn.

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        haha thats funny specially coming froma self maid vaddah…so according to vaddahs when somebody is coming to kill you buddhists should allow him to kill or walk over you…just like all christians who get hit in one cheek will show his other one for a nother one…get a life…buddhisma advocates intelligence as well as compassion….as for the guy who killed banada, didnt he went to his grave as a christian…just because some body hides inside saffron doesnt automatically becomes a buddhist..just as a some body call him self a vadda does not necessarily is a one..most like a frustrated tamil racist who is embarrassed of his racist heritage.

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          billy

          the kid says:

          “self maid vaddah”

          I never heard of the above Vedda type. Where do they live?

          billy the kid says:

          “just because some body hides inside saffron doesnt automatically becomes a buddhist..”

          Sinhalese who hide themselves in Sinhala/Buddhism do not automatically become a buddhist. Therefore Buddhism has to be liberated from the Sinhala/Buddhists. I am working on this urgent project.

          billy the kid says:

          “just as a some body call him self a vadda does not necessarily is a one..most like a frustrated tamil racist who is embarrassed of his racist heritage”

          What made you think frustrated Tamil racists?

          Tamil racists think I am a frustrated Sinhalese racists.

          This proves that Sinhalese and Tamils are irredeemably stupid. Herein lies the Sinhala/Tamil affinity.

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    from kaduruwela to kathankudi, and kalmunai to Akkaraipaththu ,we do not see any extremist or terrorising Muslims. but Taliban type ignorant and selfish but very cunning muslims only.

    How is it quoting in every friday mosque prayer to convert the name of Kandy [ Mahanuwara } to Akbar city in 2050.

    That is not Extremism, But BABY TALK ? AH AH!!!!!!!!!

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    Naturally Religion found by man has brought havoc more than the Good originally intended for the adherents due to diverse belief. Only the intelligent in society will be able to stand above Religion.

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    Thank you- Mr.Navin Weeraratne and Mr. Native Vedda for defending a community.
    and to Mr. ST—D nimanta,when cricket I support West Indies, soccer I support Brazil. Recently so many were talking about Freedom of Speech, similarly I call this Freedom of Individual’s Interests. (As a muslim I never supported Pakistan against Sri Lanka.) And to my brother Raashid Riza “It Muslims live according to teachings of Islam there will be peace and harmony to all in this world”.

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      Seyed

      “Thank you- Mr.Navin Weeraratne and Mr. Native Vedda for defending a community.”

      I am sorry to say I have no interest in defending any one community in Sri Lanka.

      All are stupid to their core,amounting to 20 million in this island.

      “comment is free, but facts are sacred”, C P Scott, this is the guiding principle which motivates me to comment.

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      SEYED, AS YOU SAY.
      IF IF IF IF IF IF , Muslims live according to teachings of Islam there will be peace and harmony to all in this world”.

      So You Have to Accept IF Only but not in Reality.
      They May not and they never live according to the So CALLED YOUR PEACEFUL ISLAM.

      there are some Muslims who SELECT ONLY good Teachings from ISLAM ? KORAN/QURAN And Throw other rubbish teaching and live very nicely.
      PERSONALLY I HAVE SEEN SOME AND APPRECIATE AND ADMIRE THEM.
      THAT IS PERSONAL VIEW.
      but the thing is that, only very very FEW Muslim communities lives in peacefully , and most of the others are doing is to trying to Islamisation on other religion followers by force or bribing .
      In every friday in saudi arabia, there are thousands of other nationalities with different beliefs are converting to Islam.
      that is by donating money to these ignorants.
      they pay about 1500 $ us to these converts.
      lot of sri Lankan also there Cheated by those Mathawwas, [maulavis].

      For Any Muslim, Other Religions or philosophy Followers [Buddhism is a philosophy. I am a follower of Buddhist philosophy] are infidels.

      AS PER the ALLAH’S QURAN and MOHAMMAD NABI’S ISLAM, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE KILLED.
      SO SEEYD, YOU AND YOUR BOTROTOHER PLATFORM RAASSHID RIZA MUST EXPLAIN FROM A——Z IN THIS WORLD ,
      WHO ARE THE EXTREMIST FROM THE TEACHING AND ACTIONS. TAKE EXAMPLES FROM QADIESIA, OHOD, YARMUK. [ THESE ARE FOM YOUR QURAN].

      SO KILLING IS IN YOU PEOPLE’S BLOOD.
      KILLING IS IN YOU PEOPLE’S GENES.

      AND YOU PEOPLE ARE TAKING LOUDLY ABOUT PEACE AND LIVING IN HARMONY.
      RASHID SAYS THAT
      All Ceylon Jamiyathul Ulema (ACJU), the main decision-making theological body for Sri Lankan Muslims, released a media communique condemning the attacks on Bangladeshi Buddhists.

      BUT IN THEIR HEART THEY MAY ENJOYING THAT, “OH OUR MUSLIMS BROTHERS HAVE DONE A GRATE JOB FOR ISLAM .
      DOSN’T THEY ?.

      THOSE TYPE OF 24 ULEMAS RAPED A PAKISTANI GIRL FOR A PUNISHMENT TO A FRIENDSHIP WITH ANOTHER TRIBE BOY.
      SO DO WE WANT TO BELIEVE THOSE ULAMAS.
      SO NOW YOU CAN WAKE UP FROM YOUR USELESS DREAMS.

      MY IDEA / PROPOSAL IS ISLAM OR MUSLIMS MUST CHANGE BEFOR POINTING FINGERS AT OTHERS.

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    I feel we should replace the word “extremism” with “terrorists”, because if one practices a religion properly he should be an extremist in that religion, what is happening at the moment is that majority does not learn or practice their respective religions. If I am wrong please find me a saying from any religion encouraging violence. Basics of all the religions are Love and Peace.

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    Hi, my name is Anisha, I am a Muslim woman and more than anything a proud Sri Lankan. I support the Sri Lankan cricket team..always have and always will, I studied under the Sinhalese stream so my mother tongue is Sinhalese…I have friends from all ethnicities, I work hard to earn my own money, I volunteer as it benefits my community as a whole (Sri Lankan), I am educated, I have great respect for Buddhism – in fact I visit temples when I can and wear blessed thread, I do not believe in the slaughter of animals…my dad is from the Eastern Province but being the great man he is, he brought me up to make my own decisions in life and that as a woman in this great country we live in, that I have more choices than most of my Muslim counterparts have in other conservative parts of the Muslim world. My late grandfather was a politician representing and winning election after election for over 2 decades in an electorate that is majority Sinhalese. This was when politics was a different caliber than it is now. I was brought up to believe that we are Sri Lankan first and everything else later. In fact when I meet someone for the first time, I see them as Sri Lankan and not by what religion they are from.

    It really is unfair to generalize anyone under a label because more often than not, that label does not fit. There are extremists representing all religions that are out there to propagate their beliefs…and if you are foolish enough to fall for that, then good luck to you. But be open minded, go out there and meet people from all religions that live here before you judge them. Not all Muslims are bad, but not all Muslims are good either…that rule is applicable to all religions. How good or bad we are should not be defined on what we believe in…its just a character trait. In a post war Sri Lanka, what we need to focus on is how we should find and respect the balance between our diverse cultures and still have a common identity.

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      Anisha,
      It is unbelievable that a Muslim, and particularly a girl can think freely. Let me tell you that in the eyes of good Muslims, you are a bad Muslim. Keep your identity a secret.

      Now read this: Koran 2:193 says; “Fight them until there is no more Al Fitnah (‘Al Fitnah’ meant Jews and Christians at the time, but in today’s context the word means all religious followers including Buddhists) and religion is only for Allah. And Koran 9:5 says; “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

      Now this confirmed in Hadith. Ishaq 324 says; “Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must not have rivals.” And Ishaq: 587 says; “Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace.” Mind you, there are hundreds of violent verses like that.

      In my opinion Muslims in Bangladesh are only following what their prophet read and as Hadith writers explained?

      I am glad that you are brought up in free thinking environment.
      Leela

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        Leela types:

        “Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only.”

        Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Mahinda only – A quote from Mahinda Chinthana.

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      Anisha
      Very appreciate your ideas and it is your family’s understanding that you have become some body away from Muslim extremism.

      we too believe that there are true believers of your religion and some are not extremists.
      and in buddhist philosophy there is no any barrier to believe or leave.
      Not like Islam that muslims must get rid of unbelievers, the infidels.
      so it is very openly say who are the extremist.
      AND WE CALL EVERY BODY THAT SAFFRON CLAD ALL ARE NOT REAL BUDDHIST PRIESTS.
      SOME ARE OPPORTUNISTS TO HIDE FROM SOCIETY TO SAFEGUARD THEMSELVES ONLY..

      I am from eastern province but I have seen many muslims do exploitation of the and kindness softness of other believers in our areas in Sri lanka.

      as an example, last 30 years there was no temple priest at eastern province, kinniya Thurai adi hindu temple. [ferry landing area]. but I saw that place taken over by muslims and built a make shift Mosque there few years back.
      now they are developing that, as big mosque because many tamils have chased away from that area and same thing happened in mutur, and pachchanoor, maliyathvu, thoppur area,
      30 years before there were only sinhalese and tamils were at kantale [ kaNthalai in tamil].
      now it is full of muslim community and buddhist or hindus never objected them to built mosques there.

      Valaichchenai,Kalmunai, Akkaraipattu area was deserted by Sinhalese and tamils.
      see what is happening in Kaththankudi and Sammanthurai.
      and At Pottuvil there is a very bad muslim extremism is prevailing.
      This the result of soft hearted, kindness Buddhist,
      As it was happened in Kuragala And Dambulla.

      Remembering that story of Bedouin’s tent and camel.

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    People are stupid, petty, greedy and the filthiest of animals. If you take a piece of crap and put a suit on it, it’s still a piece of crap. Same with religion- just because you go to a church, mosque, kovil or temple once a week or several times a day, if you are despicable human being then that’s it. Religion isn’t to blame neither can you blame the whole community.
    You blame those individuals and that is that.
    Leela goes on length to talk about Muslim extremism and what happens in other countries. Yeah Leela, those things don’t happen here. How many Buddhist shrines were destroyed by Muslims here in SL huh?
    And you say stickers on Muslim trishaws hurt peoples religious sensitivities. If you’re that bloody sensitive stay at home and don’t get out of bed.

    The only religious terrorists in Sri Lanka are Sinhala Buddhists does that mean I have to hate Buddhists all over the world?
    Thank God I’m educated and know that this sham of a religion practiced in Sri Lankan temples is not what Gautama Budhha preached.
    If Buddha were alive today He would cry for the rape of Mother Lanka.

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      Dinuka,
      You haven’t read my comment properly. There, I accepted Muslims right to believe their Allah.

      All that I wanted to highlight with my example ‘There is no God but Allah’ was that Muslims insensitivity to followers of other Deities – Gods in general and statement “The rise of extremist Buddhists in Sri Lanka is truly disturbing” is sham.

      What if ‘There is no Allah but Vishnu’ is displayed in the back of hire vehicles in Pakistan. Would the passers by ignore it or drag the driver in front of a mullah and sever punishment be meted out according to Shira for insulting Allah.

      And you said “Muslim extremism, … those things don’t happen here.” Pity you don’t know that
      Saudi sponsored Wahhabies have already penetrated Muslims social fabric in the Eastern province and had put Sufism on the run. Wahhabis emphasize on Jihadist type of Koran verses and take Sufis as a threat for expansion of their sect in Sri Lanka. In October 2004, there were clashes in Kattankudi leaving more than 200 homes of Sufi followers burnt down by Wahhabi Jihadists.

      Nalliah Thayabharan commenting to lankaweb wrote this: “One of the Sufi leader Abdul Payilvan died in Colombo was buried at in Kattankudi the next day. Wahhabi Muslims observed a hartal and demanded the removal of the body from the burial grounds. Wahhabi Muslims claim Kattankudy soil is sacred and bodies belonging to those who preach views contradictory to Wahhabism should not be buried there. Wahhabists demanded that the body of Abdul Payilvan, who is from Maruthamunai in the Amparai district, should be exhumed and buried elsewhere.

      Wahhabists had dug up the buried body of another Sufi Muslim from Mosque burial grounds and dumped the body on a local road as an act of protest. Kattankudi Police recovered the body, re-buried it in the original burial ground and guarded burial ground for few days.

      In Kattankudi, the hatred between Wahhabis and Sufis has widened in the last few years and have grown in intensity, left many injured, and caused damage to several houses and vehicles.

      Today the Wahhabists have prevailed over the Sufis and this was due to the training afforded by the House of Saud.

      Faculty of Engineering of Peradeniya University educated Mustapah Abdul Rehaman and Falul Haque
      manage the Wahhabi militarism in the Eastern Province. Falul Haque sent several youths for military training in Qatar. Abdul Rehaman works with Wahhabi leaders in UK and Bangladesh.”

      So much for Muslim moderation eh.
      Leela

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      This cant be acceptable. Just because few buddhists or disguised monks create misery with the name of Buddhism – it is not correct to put the blame on entire buddhist monks in SL. When listening to lanken radio senders today- it is becoming clear there are all kind of disguised buddhist in fradulent activities.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqX3z–XglI
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szg-L8rx7KE
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt0nqSSbhT4

      This is all because the tendency of rapid increase the crime today. So, whom to blame if not to politicians and country^s police.

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      PlS WAKE UP DINUKA AND OPEN YOUR EYES.
      SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND YOU IN SRI LANKA .
      A COUNTY CALLED WONDERLAND OF ASIA.

      I CALL THAT POLITICAL WONDERLAND OF THE WORLD.

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    I am not sure how I should respond to some of the comments made. Some general observations

    Sumanasiri- Knows little or nothing about Islam and Muslims by his own admission, yet hastens to pass judgement.
    Leela- take umbrage because there are in her opinion Muslim scripture that “asks people to believe in the oneness of god”. She finds it difficult accept that just as much as she has the freedom to believe and practice a religion with multiple gods, Muslims ought to enjoy the same rights.
    She likes to ignore the fact that Sri Lankans don’t go in procession against other religions, haven’t desecrated other places of religious worship and have made no attempt to prevent others practicing their religion in any way or form. Yet she insists that Muslims are violent, and consequently Muslims in Sri Lanka too must be so. Do I see a tad disappointment in that they are so docile as a people?
    And her argument about wahabism has nothing to do with the article in question. And because girls like Anisha don’t fit into her worldview of Muslims she dismisses the possibility that Muslims are as enlightened as those other enlightened peoples.
    Julaampitye Amaraya- I am not sure I want to take you seriously. Looks more like a tongue in cheek comment to me. Is there malice in this and I quote “How is it quoting in every friday mosque prayer to convert the name of Kandy [ Mahanuwara } to Akbar city in 2050” there is no truth in this. I am from Kandy and I go to mosque on Fridays. The fact remains that there is a significant Muslim population in Kandy. He is also worried that the Muslim population is growing in Kandy and hence him imagined assertion.
    Ultimate, we seem to be forgetting that we are human beings, biologically alike and that we have similar aspirations and dreams, that the differences are due to insecurities and perceptions and our inability to accept that individually each one of us is unique.
    Look no further than Leela and WH Sumanasiri, the former cannot see anything good in Muslims because their holy books says kill, and the latter “hates the cruelty with which Muslims treat animals” yet shed nary a tear for the cruelty we bring about on ourselves; haven’t we lost more than 100,000 young men and women due to insurrections and pogroms?
    When will we get away from the us vs. you mentality?

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      Nabil:

      “When will we get away from the us vs. you mentality?”

      You must be very naive.

      Sri Lanka is one nation, according to Sinhala/Buddhists.

      Other people don’t count since the Sinhala/Buddhists are the majority.

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      Nabil:

      The problem with Islam or Quran as well as the Bible is those can be interpreted in various ways. That is why Islam has so many sects varying from very peaceful sects to violent sects which thinks women are just commodities, buddhists who do not believe in an almighty god are Kaffirs and therefore should be eliminated, further, some muslim sects also should be eliminated because they are against the majority believers.

      What you yourself comforms that ISlam is very versatile and varies from very peaceful sects to very violent sects which believes in Jihad to get rid of every one else.

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    Reading various comments on this subject I notice that many Sri Lankan commentators have only a minute and superficial grasp of the realities in majority muslim countries of the “Middle East”.

    The West, which covets their scarce resources have over the years spread instability, oppression, misinformation (through largely Jewish international media organisations)and have propped up dictators and actively prevented democracy from taking hold, in order to further their own selfish needs.

    The Sri Lankan Muslims naturally show solidarity with these oppressed peoples, and also sympathise with the abject plight of Palestinians under ethnic cleansing by Zionist Israelis.

    An extension of muslim unity in supporting followers of islam globally cannot therefore be construed as “unpatriotic” although religion has no national borders, party affiliation or other demarcations unlike in the case of Buddhists (especially in Sri Lanka)

    The interpretation of Islam by various scholars or clerics in countries which use religion to subjugate, often leads to condemnation by various uninformed people and entities. These manifestations cannot be blamed on ordinary muslims.

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      Lasantha,

      Your’s is a sane voice in the wilderness of hatred

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    Dear billy,
    You say that:
    “sinhala buddhist extremism in sri lanka always been reactionary,be it against the tamil racist exclusive demands initiateed by ponnambalams and chelvas in 1920s to current muslim extremism”

    Dear billy! Importance of the sea power and the Indian ocean became priority to the West in the very beginning of the 20th century. The US Naval Chief Rear Admiral Alfred Thayer Mahan in his “Indian Ocean and its impact on international politics” had emphacised it. Thus, Britain, Germany and the USA had been trying to influence the majority Sinhala Buddhists to safeguard their interests in the Indian Ocean and Far East. They were engaged in various activities like translating and publishing Pali Chronicles Diipavamsa and Mahaavamsa,conducting studies on Sinhala language and the Sinhalese, making public speeches to the Sinhalse promoting Sinhala Buddhist nationalism rejecting totally the other citizens of Lanka. As an example, I give you the public speeches made by Annie Beasant who “promoted” extreme Sinhala Buddhist nationalism in Lanka.
    Annie Beasant who conducted a lecture tour in 1907 spoke about Siňhala nationalism and building nationality on Buddhism.

    In her Lecture at the ‘Mausaeus Girls’ School’ she had said (Buddhist Popular Lectures. 1908; Madras):

    Thus “We speak of the children here learning Sinhalese history, Sinhalese geography, and I should say Sinhalese botany and Sinhalese science along Sinhalese lines. In no other way can you lay the foundation of that self – respect without which no nation can be built up to greatness. …”

    In her lecture at ‘Ananda College’ she had said:

    Let me say to you in closing this brief description of the right principles that you have had in this island for the last twenty-three centuries – …… On Buddhism you must build your nationality…. “

    In her lecture at the Colombo Public Hall she had said:

    “If you want to teach botany here, you should teach it with the help of Sinhalese flowers – you have enough of them – with Sinhalese trees, Sinhalese products of every kind and then the child’s mind fixes the thing taught with the aid of living pictures and makes it a part of the child’s ordinary life… If you would make your school-books what the English school – books are to the English boy, if you would write your own books, written by Sinhalese men and published by your own Sinhalese people, with illustrations drawn from your own Sinhalese history, heroes from your own national story, which will inspire feelings of patriotism in your children, if you would write the stories of your own great kings, your own warriors, your own statesmen and place them as examples for the Sinhalese boy to follow – ah, then you would make feelings of patriotism which would build the Sinhalese nation. … You have many religions in this land, but the vast majority are Buddhists, and Buddhism must be the dominant note of the civilization of Ceylon …. “

    However,to the surprize of the West, the “Devil” Communism put its feet on the Globe in 1917. The West European nations, particularly the British and the French after over 2 years of war against it, comfirmed that Communism had permanently settled on the globe. This made the British to discard the Tamil minorities and embrace the Sinhala Buddhists to have their influence in Sri Lanka to eneble them to safeguard their own intersts in the Indian Ocean and the Far East!
    This gave the opportunity for the opportunist Sinhala politicians to promote extreme Sinhala Buddhist nationalism to get the mass support.
    The policy of the British colonialists and the Sinhala Buddhist extremism of the opportunist Sinhala politicians only made Prof. C. Suntharalingam to speak about establishing “Eelom” for the Tamils in 1942 and G.G. Ponnampalam to speak about raising the “Nandhi flag” of the Jaffna kingdom in 1944. These in turn made the British to hand over Independent Lanka at the hands of the Sinhala Buddhists to prevent the Tamils from establishing a separate state.

    However, the British and the USA did not want leave any chance for the Tamil politics to take the direction of establishing separate state for the Tamils. Thus, in 1949, they created a Tamil political party with the leadership of S.J.V. Chelvanayagam having the policy of ‘FEDERALISM’ that fundamentally rejects establishment of a separate state for the Tamils. It is interesting to note here that those Tamil christians like James Ratnam and others who in 1920s rejected the Federal proposal of Late S.W.R.D. Bandaranayake joined the Federal Party in 1949!! Though the Federal Party staged protests over various things, in 1965 it joined the UNP and formed a “NATIONAL GOVERNMENT” to safeguard the intersts of the USA and the West! In 1963 the USA got the Indian Ocean island ‘Dieago Garcia’ on long term lease from the British and started building Naval, Air bases, Communication facilities and ammunition dumps in the island. Thereby the USA established its dominance over the Soviet Empire through the Indian Ocean! Dieago Garcia island bases were used extensively in the war against Iraq.

    Even the @Vaddukkooddai declaration@ was actually the outcome of the pressure by the Tamil youths. Thus, talking about the Tamil extremism and Chelvanayagam shows your ignorance.

    Leaving these dear billy! Have not you gone through the Report of the LLRC appointed by HE Mahinda Rajapakse?

    The Para-8.150 of the Raport says:

    “The Commission takes the view that the root cause of the ethnic conflict in Sri Lanka lies in the failure of successive Governments to address the genuine grievances of the Tamil people. The country may not have been confronted with a violent separatist agenda, if the political consensus at the time of independence had been sustained and if policies had been implemented to build up and strengthen the confidence of the minorities around the system which had gained a reasonable measure of acceptance.”

    Under “The Different Phases in the Narrative of Tamil Grievances” Para 8.163 of the Report says:

    “The decisive rift in the inter-ethnic relationship came first with the riots of 1958, then in1977, and culminating in what is known as ‘Black July’ of 1983, and the heinous failure of the then Government to provide adequate protection to Tamil citizens. The problems pertaining to the Tamil Community and their grievances cannot be fully addressed without a fuller understanding of this culture of violence that marred the relationship between the Sinhala and Tamil communities.”

    Dear billy! What do you think about your statement: “sinhala buddhist extremism in sri lanka always been reactionary,be it against the tamil racist exclusive demands initiateed by ponnambalams and chelvas in 1920s to current muslim extremism”?

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      MR Abimanasingham Sitthawatthai Uthayakumar –
      YOU QUATED;
      Annie Beasant who “promoted” extreme Sinhala Buddhist nationalism in Lanka.
      Annie Beasant who conducted a lecture tour in 1907 spoke about Siňhala nationalism and building nationality on Buddhism.

      SHE DID NOT DO A LECTURE IN INDIA THAMIL NADU, UNITED KINGDOM, OR SAUDI ARABIA. NOT IN ALIEN PLACE TO WORRY FOR ANY BODY LIKE YOU.
      SHE DID IT IN CEYLON , PRESENT SRI LANKA, AT BUDDHIST ANANDA COLLEGE , NOT IN A MISSIONARY SCHOOL IN JAFFNA OR BATTICALOA.

      HER LECTURE NOT GIVEN TO TAMIL MUSLIM, HINDU,OR CHRISTIAN OR CATHOLIC SCHOOL CHILDREN.BUT ONLY TO SINHALA BUDDHIST CHILDREN.
      SHE DID NOT INTERFERE WHEN YOU PEOPLE DID YOUR YEOMEN SERVICE TO COLONIAL BRITISH AND PORTUGUESE AND EMBRACING CHRISTIANITY.

      SO THAT WAS NOT ANYBODY’S PROBLEM, YOU GUYS WANT TO SHAW IT A PROBLEM LIKE YOUR’S..

      SO DID /DO YOU WANT THAT TO CHANGE TO TAMIL CHRISTIAN CULTURE OR MUSLIM ARABIC CULTURE TO PROMOTE IN THAT SINHALA BUDDHIST SCHOOL LIKE JAFFNA METHODIST OR TRINCO HINDU COLLEGE.
      YOU PEOPLE DANCED FOR INDIAN TUNES AND GOT LOST, BECAUSE INDIANS ARE VERY SMART TO CATCH REAL FOOLS TO DO THEIR DIRTY WORKS.
      SO UGLY INDIANS MISGUIDED YOUR SO CALLED EDUCATED LOT AND UNEDUCATED INNOCENT YOUTHS AND GOT CAUGHT IN THE MOUSE TRAP.

      CUNNING INDIANS,YOUR EDUCATED BUT NO WISDOM POLITICIANS AND MISGUIDED YOUNG KIDS PAID A HEAVY PRICE.
      THEY WERE / ARE NOT GONG TO SOLVE OR CARE ABOUT GENUINE GRIEVANCES OF TAMIL PEOPLE.
      NEITHER YOU ARE MY FRIEND, NOR THE WORLD POWERS.

      EVAN THAMILNADU THAMILANS DO NOT HAVE SOME FREEDOM SRI LANKAN TAMILIANS ENJOY.

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    The rants of native vedda show that there is indeed a crisis in the education sector.

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      Bedrock Barney:

      “The rants of native vedda show that there is indeed a crisis in the education sector.”

      Thanks for notifying the obvious.

      Since there is a crisis in the education sector lets abolish it. Why spend billions on education to produce stupid Tamils and stupid Sinhalese. They could do very well without it.

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        HELLO STUPID GAL VEDDA?

        DO YOU THINK THAT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMENTING HERE ARE STUPID AND YOU ARE THE ONLY, ONLY BRAINY AND EDUCATED GUY. [ IF YOU DO THINK LIKE THAT, YOU ARE AN BLOODY IDIOT REALLY].

        I AM NOT THICK LIKE YOU ARE?

        being thick is no use to anybody and you only care and otherS do not take to a fart.

        I have heard ,this is only a part of sickness called inferiority complex.

        IF YOU ARE A SRI LANKAN, LEAVE THIS INFERIORITY COMPLEX AWAY FROM YOUR MIND AND SHERE WITH US AND BE A PROUD SRI LANKAN.

        WE ARE NOT LIKE FORIGEN PASSPORT HOLDERS OF RULING FAMILY.

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    Raashid, Let me ask you one thing first before I go further. Why is that Muslims are the most hatred and untrustworthy people in the world? People like you should find out the truth before writing articles like this to make things worse. It is the Muslims and their Mosques who has started this discrimination and expect Sinhalese people to accept these horrible acts. If anyone speaks or do something about their acts, then they become extremists. What a lord of rubbish. Sri Lanka was protected by the Sinhala Buddhist all alone. How many Muslims fought and died to protect our mother land in the past or recent war against LTTE? Go to Akurana then you will see who is discriminating who. Go to Gampola and see how a Mosque is built over the public road (Bibile Road) illegally and made the Sinhala Buddhist people including the monks to walk under these Muslims’ feet. It is only the Muslims who is filling the paddy fields with the help of their Muslim officials. They convert Buddhists by offering bribes continuously. Muslims speak Tamil as their main language when the main language is Sinhala. Mosques starts screaming around 4am breaking all the laws of the country and disturbing babies, children and sick. Muslims can break the laws and expect people to not talk about it. So Rasshid go and get these right first. CLEAN UP YOUR HOUSE BEFORE YOU TRY TO DO OTHERS. WHEN YOU ARE FULL OF DIRT like pigs DON”T TALK ABOUT OTHERS. THIS IS THE COUNTRY OF SINHALA BUDDHISTS AND WE ARE PREPARED TO SHARE AND LIVE AND RESPECT OTHERS AS LONG AS THEY DO THE SAME. Otherwise we will come out to protect what is our culture, religion and way of life. In Sri Lanka all have to eat only Halal because of the Muslims have taken over that industry and without telling anyone selling them. These racists are filling paddy fields, doing all sorts of illegal activities in Sri Lanka. If you don’t like Sinhala Buddhist ways go to a Arab country Rsheed and we will help you too.

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      Dear Rohana,

      It is a sad reflection of our times that after 30 years of blood letting, not an inkling of your hatred towards the minorities has diminished.

      You forget that Buddhism is not yours to keep. It was imported from India as much as Islam from Saudi Arabia. Before that if one goes by known history Hinduism would have had been the predominant religion in Sri Lanka.

      You are chasing ghosts, of all kinds. We don’t complain when you erect statues of the Buddha at every junction, blocking the smooth flow of the traffic. We don’t complain when you have all night pirith recitals. We don’t complain if you want to eat non halal food.

      We are citizens of this country as much as you are and have shared the good and the bad. Many young men have sacrificed their lives. Major Lafir was a brave soldier who gave his life so that others could live. Nizam Mathalif was gunned down by the LTTE at Kirulopane.
      Muslims suffered at the hands of the LTTE, just as much as the Sinhalese. Hundreds of thousands were chased out of Jaffna, their possessions confiscated. More than 100 Muslims were murdered inside a mosque in the east.

      While you hate everything Muslim, you have no qualms when Sinhalese work in the middle east.

      Muslims are the most impoverished of the communities in our country. Name one National school of the caliber of a Nalanda or Ananda for Muslim boys in Colombo or Kandy.

      Your bigotry has no end. Because of this simmering hatred of your fellow citizens, our country spent billions fighting an unwanted war. We continue to spend billions to maintain an army to protect a larger community from a smaller community.

      Money that can create a better life for your own community. I hope and prayer is that at least the future generation will see the truth, that we Sri Lankans have become the pariahs of the International community and begin the process of healing, learn tolerance, and rise above petty racism.
      I can’t expect you to change, you will die hating your brothers and sisters and my hope is that you will achieve Nibana even though you are full of hatred.
      May you find peace!

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    Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the future: It transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it covers both the natural and spritual; and it is based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity. -Albert Einstein

    If there is any religion that would cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism. -Albert Einstein

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      Paul Smith

      Quoting Einstein is great.

      However the issue is Sinhala/Buddhists preaching to the world on violence which don’t you think bit too much for any average person. Leave Einstein alone.

      “If there is any religion that would cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism -Albert Einstein

      While appreciating Einstein’s views on Buddhism which was made some 65 years ago, how that is relevant to already dead Buddhism in Sri Lanka?

      Not many scientist believe in the ideas of reincarnation/rebirth found in Buddhism.

      A Nadarajah statue is standing at the gates of CERN and the links can be found on google.

      What is the significance of this bronze Hindu statue to the CERN research on Gods particle?

      Buddha talked about stupidity of human all the time perhaps he had future Sinhala/Buddhists in his mind.

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    While scriptures of all other religions say Kill , Rape , perverse sex,on people who do not follow their own particular religion , many times over , can any one show these words any where in authentic Buddhist Scriptures?

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    Please use English !

    This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our Comment policy.For more detail see our Comment policy
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    Leela

    is surprised:

    “hey vedda Sunday sill; where have you picked that from? ah’ doesn’t matter”

    My people are well known through out the years as hunter gatherers.

    I gathered it.

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    Very very interesting to read all the comments & different people with different thinking styles..
    But mesister leela seems bit outa line & ignore her coz that’s how she get paid for.. No hard feelings.

    I have plenty of Muslim mates, they beyond cool and all of them support our boys when it comes to cricket won’t give out the nation & believes pakko are dodgy.

    I think mesister need to get out of the country a bit and spend some time here in the UK to socialize bit more & rewash her brain a bit more so she can come out from the well and think not like FROG.

    Lots of luck everyone who lives out there with rising cost of living & have wonderful future… Inc you Leela.

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      Leela is said to be already livinng in the UK, this revealed from her previous posts. However, time to time, may be her psychosomatic problems change her manner of writing misguiding the readers. To this thread, she sounds to be a GURU when it goes with Islamists.

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        You’ve got it wrong. I studied in the UK and lived in the UK. I can live there even now but I prefer to live in Sri Lanka and found an ideal setting a village in Horana area and have been living there for the last so many years.
        Leela

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          Leela,
          Then the analysis you make should be much more constructive. If you lived in both continents, you can not be one who would not see – appalling levels of the deteriorating of the society today just because the govt pays no due attention. Ministers answers to specific problems are as if they came from pavement shop holders. Not to disgrace the pavement business folks – but the behaviours of the current ministers are not comparable to those we had any time since independence. MR as the country^s president OFTEN keeps silent in alarming issues while the opposition leader and other oppo parties are not even adequately informed about the problems that many are struggling to solve today. Can you please name me any good ministry under the current regime ? lankens are said to be a predominantly Buddhist folk – so just tell me how you would feel by listening to the video given below.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7QXwPSH21M

          why is that one single police station cant react independent enough to be an example to the rest of police stations in sl ?

          Followings are common situations in which poor villagers have no other choice than continuing to live with fears

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UekrQZcjIpY

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbkyihkEJPE

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    @ Leela, Jim softly..

    You talk about certain things in Quran or Hadith on which you two have no knowledge at all.but I would lilke to ask you where on the earth there is a high crime rate??? be it rape, killing, robbery or bankrupt?? It is well known that the high crime rate are reported in developed nations only..or mostly non islamic countries.

    @Andreasapp, you are an absolute idiot. Not only Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) communicated with God but also Prophet Jesus (PbUH), Moses, Abraham etc..If you believe only the things which you can see by your naked eye then you are a dumb..mobiles work without wire..

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      Village boy@

      To just ignoring the quesiton- your kind of answers are easy.

      These answers are very common when raised the particular questions. However, you seem to be an uneducated boy who may not even know how wirless gadgets work :) – may be your ilk DO feel.. it is Allah who creates the connection…. LOL

      I simply dont believe as your ilk of people do – there are though theories that the highly educated physists could better answer the question how the communication took place, that is why I thought of even raising it.

      And you guys are not better than the rural masses who constantly believe that MR and thugs are the only powers to give a light to war torn country today.

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        Andreasappu

        comment to Village boy

        “you seem to be an uneducated boy who may not even know how wirless gadgets work”

        Perhaps all his teachers were either Sinhalese or Tamils.

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          Native Vedha, You are a racist that’s why you hate Sinhalese and Tamils..Don’t try to be smart with your so called knowledge..

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        Don’t boast yourself as educated!!! You can’t even accept other person’s religious activities/views or you are not ready to show respect to other religions..It doesn’t suit to call you “EDUCATED”

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          village boy

          What did make you think I was a racist?

          Calling a spade a spade does not make one racist, does it?

          I call the Tamils and Sinhalese Kallathonies as we know they arrived in this island by Kallathonies.

          I call the Tamils and Sinhalese stupid as I have observed their self destructive behaviour over a long period of time.

          Where did you get the wrong idea that I am a racist?

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          My brother Andreasappu^s comment was SOLELY focusd on your previous comment, VILLAGE BOY.
          And being Educated means nothing else than being somewhat polite – not necessarily need to have titles collected.

          There is a truth in Native^s commentto my brother^s – when looking at the manner that youth in general behave in the country today – teachers and parents should have to bear a part of the responsibility.if ones of your ilk got their primary education in SL, nodoubt teachers were not foreigners but tamils, sinhalese or others but from SL. Here I have no clue about the vaddas community represent lanken teachers too.

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          village boy

          “why you hate Sinhalese and Tamils.”

          I don’t hate Sinhalese or Tamils. How could anyone hate stupid people?

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    In as much 7/83 was more an organised effort by the growing influence of the Sinhala Buddhist business/industrial community to destroy the enterprising, hardworking and successful Tamil business community the anti-Muslim sentiment now growing is also as a result of the same sinister and faceless leadership – out to eliminate the strength of the business community. In 7/83 the tragedy of the 13 soldiers at Tinnevely was merely a spark. The well organised Project had gained gestation months ago with Electoral Lists, details of location of rich Tamil homes/businesses/factories etc., The plan also contained the elimination of leading Tamil businessmen. Millionaire KG Gunaratnam (Cinemas/KG Industries Group) and the Shanmugam-Subramaniam Brothers of 4th/5th X street were all shot/killed in daylight in the presence of hundreds of the public and the Police/Army. Killers are still in the open. Samuel Gnanam of the St Anthony’s Group and the Maharajah Brothers went into hiding/abroad to escape death. Lankan Muslims may find they have made a serious mistake in jettisoning the safe company of the 2 major Sinhala political parties to fall prey to religion-based partisan politics on the irresponsible call of narrow minded politicians from the Eastern Province. It is the duty of the Rajapakse Govt to protect the law-abiding, talented and hardworking Muslims from the impending disaster set in motion months ago against them.

    Senguttuvan

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    Paul Smith – The high ideals Einstein – and indeed many other world leaders – were impressed with is not the Buddhism practised here. Here it is desecrated by priests entering the snake-pit of material politics, priests insisting in joining the army (to kill and maim),
    priests sitting with little compunction very close to women in Nurses Unions,streets with their cloth raised going angrily in the streets on political demos and the lot. There are similar truant Buddhist priests in Thailand, Burma, Cambodia as well although I do not know much about the Mahayana sect in China, Korea and Japan.

    Much of what is practised as Buddhism here are totally contradictory to what The Compassionate One preached – including the very basics. When did you see a Buddhist priest with his Begging Bowl seeking alms and walking the streets? Of course, I must add there are dozens of educated, pious, practising Buddhist priests too – some personally known to me and from whom I have learnt much. A few weeks ago I met the Getambe Priest (on a flight from Chennai to Cbo) where this Tamil-speaking 87-year priest had lead over a 100 Sinhala Buddhist pilgrims on pilgrimage to South-North India to establish the recent “incidents”
    are more the exception than normal.

    Senguttuvan

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      Senguttuvan

      “When did you see a Buddhist priest with his Begging Bowl seeking alms and walking the streets?”

      I have seen Sinhala/Buddhists travelling to India, China, Europe, USA, Japan, IMF, WB, ADB with begging Bowl for many years while cursing the International Community.

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    Religion is the cause of many problems in the world. This includes murder and mayhem rape and robbery.My opinion is religion is not necessary for mankind, but, mankind is necessary for Religion for it to grow and damage the good will among Mankind. Less we speak about religion, more cordiality we can expect.If there is a God he will look after himself and we may mind our own business.

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    FROM THE VERY BEGINING ISLAM SPREAD BY CRUEL WAR TAKE FOR EXAMPLE HOW THEY SUBDUED MADINA CITY BY WAR AND DECEPTION.THEY BROKE AGREEMENTS UNILATERALY WHEN THEY ARE STRONG AND MERCILESSLY SUPPRESSED THE OPPONANTS.IN THE SAME WAY THEY DECLARED WAR AGAINST BAGDAD, SYRIA AND OTHER MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES AND DESTROYED ALL HITHER TO EXISTING RELIGIONS BY FORCE ANY BODY RESISTING WERE MERCILESSLY DEALT WITH.ANY REMAINING FOLLOWERS OF PREVIOUS FAITH WERE MADE TO PAY A NONBELEIVER TAX IF ANY MEMBER OF NON BELIEVERS CAME TO ISLAM ALL FAMILLY PROPERTY RIGHTS WENT ONLY TO HIM.REMAINING FAMILY MEMBERS LOST EVERY THING.NON MUSLIMS WERE HEAVILY TAXED AT EVERY POINT THIS IS HAPPENING IN BANGLADESH EVEN TODAY.WHEN THEY INVADED INDIA IN 9TH CENTURY THEY LOOTED WHEREEVER THEY GO THEY DESTROYED WORLD BIGGEST UNIVERSITIES IN NALANDA AND WICRAMASHILA IN NORTH INDIA.THEY LOOTED ALL MOST ALL THE HINDU AND BUDHIST TEMPLES IN INDIA AND AFGHANISTAN KILLED IN MILLIONS TO SUBJUGATE FOREIGN LANDS THEY KILLED MEN AND SOLD INDIAN YOUNG WOMEN IN THE STREETS OF MIDLE EASTEN CAPITALS AS SEX SLVES .IN THE MODERN DAYS IF HUMAN BLOOD IS SPILLED ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD IN THE NAME OF RELIGION WHETHER IT IS TAKING MONTISORY CHILDREN AS HOSTAGE IN RUSSIA OR KILLING OF TOURISTS IN BALI ISLANDS OR BLOWING UP WORLD TRADE CENTER IN AMERICA OR KILLING OF STUDENTS IN NIGERIA OR SHOOTING AT A 14 YEAR OLD SCHOOL GIRL IN PAKISTAN ARE ALL ACTS OF MUSLIM EXTREMISTS NOT PEOPLE BELONGING TO ANY OTHER FAITH.ALL THESE SHOW CRUELTY TO HUMANITY DUE TO WRONG PRINCIPLES AND PRACTICES.THESE NEED TO BE AMMENDED FOR THE SAKE OF SAFTY OF ALL.

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    Leela to Anisha: ” Koran 2:193 says; “Fight them until there is no more Al Fitnah (‘Al Fitnah’ meant Jews and Christians at the time, but in today’s context the word means all religious followers including Buddhists”

    Leela to Muslim: “I don’t speak Arabic. So, I had to rely on translations and of cause the internet. Don’t get me wrong; I read Muslim sites as well as Christian and Jewish sites. Otherwise how would I know short comings and the fallacies of Islam.”

    Leela you are a clown that is waiting for a circus! You visit ant-Islamic websites to gain knowledge about Islam and to get your selected Quraanic verses translated?! Very impressive. Way to go! Mullah Leela cousin sister of Mullah Omar is lying through her teeth on a global scale. If you don’t know the language, why do you venture to distort, concoct and fabricate lies? If you haven’t got the capacity to comprehend and understand something then please don’t use your twisted little mind to spit venom and hatred at a community and then try to explain their religious text as if you are some authority or scholar.

    As a student of the Arabic language let me inform you what Al Fitna means. Fitna comes from the root (three-letter)Arabic word “Fatana” which means to turn away, to subject to temptations or trials, tempt, entice, allure, begulie…….
    “Fitna” plural “Fitan” means temptation, trial; charm, attractiveness, sedition, riot, discord, dissension, civil strife. (Hans Wehr Arabic dictionary)

    “And fight them on until there is no more (Fitna)tumult or oppression..” Quraan 2 verse 193

    “Fitna” does not mean followers of other religions. Who are you trying to deceive? Well,let me tell you something Mullah Leela; right now you are causing a great “FITNA” in this public forum!

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      Noora,
      It seems, you are saying all Buddhist monks in Sri Lanka are in to mischief now and therefore Buddhism is in the hands of criminals and Sinhalese are criminals. What a stupid and silly argument.

      We never even once say that just because Bin Laden and Mullah Omar blew up the world trade centre and their Taliban followers dynamited and destroyed Bahamian Buddha statues, religion of Islam is in the hands of criminals and all Muslims are criminals.

      Indeed, we are not logging violent trait of Islam to vicious and heartless action by few individuals or some isolated atrocious incidents. What we are arguing here is that Islam begat with violence. And most of Allah’s word in the Koran is associated with war, kill, slay, smite etc. And a fundamental tenet of Islam and central action of its founder Muhammad is nothing but violence.

      Now, asif and many Muslims think we should not read translations of Koran and comprehend it ourselves. They think we ought to get help from a Mullah and understand it in right context. They do not say which mullah we should approach for guidance.

      They should tell us why not we take Koran interpretations by that blind Egyptian Koran authority, Mullah Omar Abdel-Rahman in the US jail and Taliban leader and Koran expert, Mullah Muhammad Omar’s teaching as true comprehension of Allah’s teaching.

      Mr Asif, I have no argument that ‘Al Fitna’ may have many different meanings, but the translation that I picked up is from no student like you; in fact, it is from an expert of the Koran and Arabic language who knows A to Z of them. And his name is Ali Sina. I am sure you’ve heard of him. So, you cannot accuse me that I didn’t get the meaning of ‘Al Fitna’ in the right context.
      Leela

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    Native Veddah – If you accept the Vijaya version then I agree with you the Sinhalese are Kallathonies. After all, the respected and learned Dr Colvin R. de Silva taught what became the Sinhalese came “wave after wave” over the centuries from what is now Tamilnadu and Andhra Pradesh – largely. But there were in the Island both what we call today as Sinhalese and Tamils people in the pre-Vijaya period.
    Dr Gananath Obeysekera established the Gypsies of the Batticoloa-Uva Districts in their ancient songs and dances show signs of Tamil and
    Telugu features. Prof Sudarshan Seneviratne is of the view we came from the same Gene Pool. Prof Shiran Deraniyagala agrees with this view.

    I also do not agree with you that both Sinhala and Tamils are stupid although I have no quarrel with your “self-destructive” allegation.
    Highly learned, cultured and peace-loving leaders and people came from both sides although I cannot agreeing with you there were a whole lot of weirdos as well – certainly in the present and recent Parliaments.
    But won’t you agree the past is dead and gone but the present and future is full of promise and hope. Why don’t the Sinhala masses – lead by the Buddhist hierarchy – take the initiative for once and lead the Sinhala peaple into peace, unity and reconciliation. In as much as it is true “warms are far too important issues to Generals” you will not disagree with me peace and unity in Sri Lanka today is far too precious to be left in the hands of those social lepers, crooks and dregs calling themselves “our political leaders” I certainly would hate to be seen lying dead next to Weerawansa, Ranawake, Nimal Siripala and Dr Mervin and other assorted insects.

    Senguttuvan

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      Senguttuvan

      I value your comments.

      You say:

      ” If you accept the Vijaya version then I agree with you the Sinhalese are Kallathonies.”

      If Vijaya version is part of founding myth, then it should not be part of school curriculum. There is no material evidence to support the arrival of asylum seeking Vijaya and his hoodlums. Therefore the onus is on the Sinhala/Buddhists to remove this founding myth from all school text books if any meaningful understanding between the communities to be reached. This is only the first step.

      I have been interested in the history of Hydraulic Civilisation in this island. Every research paper published in the island by “eminent Sinhalese scholars” begin with introductory paragraph “Aryan Sinhalese Hydraulic Civilisation”. R A L H Gunawardana was the exception. In his papers he pointed out that Hydraulic Engineering was initially imported from South India and over a period of time the islanders improved it and exported their skills back to South and North India. The point I am making here is that there had been man made irrigation systems in the island long before the arrival of the immigrants yet the so called Aryan Sinhalese/Buddhists scholars have been misappropriating the glory of Hydraulic Civilisation exclusively to the Aryan Sinhala/Buddhists.

      Every aspect of history has been perverted by the so called Sinhala/Buddhist scholars the exceptions are R A L H Gunawardana, Gananath Obeysekere, H L Seneviratne, Sudharsan Seneviratna, S U Dereniyagala and a few others who stood their grounds to establish historical truth. They are outnumbered by the so called Sinhala/Buddhist mythologists whose writings have reinforced the belief that Aryan/Sinhalese/Buddhists have the sole ownership to the island. Since they are the majority they didn’t mind “tyranny of the majority”.

      As a descendants of the ancient people don’t you think my people have a right to the land. In our case both the Tamils and Sinhalese have denied our rights for many years although the last war against British Colonisers was fought by my people under Vedda General after the surrender of Kandyan Kingdom.

      There is no good Sinhalese nor bad Sinhalese. Similarly there is no good Tamils nor bad Tamils. The Sinhalese and Tamils are two stupid peoples whose purpose in their life is to self destruct at any costs. Both peoples have very short temper which is a symptom of their stupidity. Both are willing to kill each other and their own brethren. With a short notice, Sinhalese mobs and armed forces can be motivated to kill, rape, burn down properties,…………with impunity.

      The Tamils are no lesser people to Sinhalese when it comes to killing.

      Where were/are the so called “Highly learned, cultured and peace-loving leaders and people came from both sides” when the state, JVP, LTTE and sundries went on killing each other and their own brethren since 5th April 1971?

      My guestimate is no less than 300,000 innocent people have been killed in the past 40 years. What did the decent, educated, cultured, peace loving Sinhalese and Tamils do to stop the slaughter?

      Or did they really want to stop the human slaughter in the island?

      Please bear with me as you know I am bit thick.

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        Senguttuvan:

        “But there were in the Island both what we call today as Sinhalese and Tamils people in the pre-Vijaya period.”

        I am yet to see tangible evidence to support the above claim. Tamils claim to have lived in the island for many millennium has not been proved with physical evidence although it was a remote possibility given the proximity to South India.

        On the other hand Sinhala/Buddhists are confused with language replacement and Sinhala/Buddist consciousness.

        The idea of nation and nationality always begin with founding myth for example Mahabaratha.

        Until these two people spend some time looking into their own history with an open mind and scholarly research there won’t be any peace. Demystifying myth could be the first step in the process of reconciliation.

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