By Santosh Jha –
Ladies and gentlemen,
I am happy to be present here today for the event promoting the Ramayana trail. I thank the organisers for inviting me to this event. I would also like to extend a very warm welcome to the delegation from India led by Swami Govind Dev Giriji. Their presence here confirms that the deep connection between the people of two countries goes back several centuries into antiquity. A time when people and ideas were moving across seamlessly and without the modern impositions that sometimes constrain and restrict easy travel and connections between our peoples. We were reminded of this connect recently by His Excellency President Ranil Wickremesinghe who mentioned that even as we launch the Universal Payments Interface or the UPI in Sri Lanka, which will allow Indian tourists to make payments in Indian rupees in Sri Lanka, there is evidence of the use of each other’s coins or ancient currencies in both India and Sri Lanka deep into our antiquity.
We all know today that the Ramayana trail stretches from India to Sri Lanka. That this is so was not so well known to many in our two countries even a decade or so ago. Despite the references to this in our ancient epics such as Ramayana and Mahabharata.
I myself discovered this first hand when I came to Sri Lanka in 2007 and worked at the Indian High Commission for three years.
I had the pleasure of visiting these places in Sri Lanka multiple times during that period.
So far, in my present tenure too I have visited some of these places and more are part of my plans in the near future.
I am, therefore, glad that today the idea of Ramayana trail has caught up the imagination of the people on both sides of the Palk strait.
Promoting tourism is an important objective of both our countries. For Sri Lanka, in particular, it has been an important source of economic activity and promotion of Ramayana trail holds a significant promise.
I must also recall that our leaders have pledged to promote the Buddhist circuit and the Ramayana trail in both our countries in the Vision Document that was issued when our leaders – President Ranil Wickremesinghe and Prime Minister Narendra Modi – had their summit meeting in New Delhi in July 2023. I must add that this is the vision of our leaders that guides our actions today in all areas.
The visit by respected Swamiji from Ayodhya and the activities organised during his visit to Sri Lanka will I am sure further help in raising awareness about the Ramayana trail among the Indians. It is bound to increase the flow of Indian tourists and pilgrims to these destinations.
India already contributes more than 1/5th of the tourist arrivals into Sri Lanka. India is also the largest source of tourist traffic to Sri Lanka. Unlike others, Indian tourists also visit both Buddhist and Hindu places of worship. They are also attracted to historical sites existing across Sri Lanka. In that sense, they are more diversified in their choice of sites and places they visit in Sri Lanka. The economic value of attracting Indian tourists into Sri Lanka, therefore, is greater as the benefits of their travels goes to a larger cross section of people dependent on tourism business and to those who are located in all the provinces in Sri Lanka.
In other words, Indian tourism has a larger regional spread in Sri Lanka and so its benefits too are similarly more dispersed and distributed. This is unlike other tourists, who are mostly interested in adventure and beach tourism and therefore their business benefits have more limited spread and distribution.
Our effort to establish the land bridge, on which we have begun our joint work, promises to further provide fillip to our ongoing efforts to promote tourism between our two countries. No doubt that it will be a game changer. It will, of course, bring many benefits to communities along the alignment of this connectivity but more specifically, it will make Ramayana and Buddhism tourism easier and more alluring to people on both sides.
I must also add that the Ramayana trail also confirms the deep people-to-people connect and shared civilisational antiquity of India and Sri Lanka.
In that sense, it reaffirms my oft-repeated assertion that we are civilisational twins sharing the same antiquity. From this it follows that we are not after all big or small sisters or brothers but one of the same age and antiquity with neither being small or big vis-a-vis each other.
Our relationship is special and unique in this respect. For us, we have to cooperate as that is the only option. We must stand hand-in-hand with each other in good as well as difficult times. We cannot rest with just coming to assist one another episodically but must remain engaged at all times in all spheres. Our commitment to one another has to be the greatest as there is no other relationship that is more vital, critical and natural as the one we have with each other. In fact, in modern political and economic systems, too, we are similar. We are democratic, open polities and societies and open market economies.
Our socio-economic profile as a low middle income country also entails that we can offer each other the benefits of our respective successful experiences, which no other society, economy or polity can do, especially those which are not governed by these democratic norms.
Our cooperation must not be limited or transactional. Our commitment must be total and to all aspects of our shared existence and our location in close geographical proximity.
I want to end here. I would like to thank Mr. Manivanan for the invitation to attend this event. I wish our Indian guests a pleasant stay and experience in Sri Lanka. May the Ramayana trail flourish in the same way as our friendship flourishes today.
Thank You
*Speech by High Commissioner of India Santosh Jha at the official launch of the “Ramayana Trail – The Sacred Mission” Project organised by the Supreme Global Holdings group on 21st April 2024 at Hotel Taj Samudra, Colombo.
Singar A. Velan / April 23, 2024
Of course it makes sense to attract Indian tourism, but I don’t understand what is so sacred about the Ramayana. It is fiction, rather creative one, and Kambar’s translation into Thamiz has some beautifully crafted lines. The story is based on our Sri Lankan chap kidnapping a married woman from India, and the husband coming with an army of monkeys to fight it out. Though he wins the war, his suspicious mind about the “purity” of the wife held in captivity gets shamefully exposed. What is sacred in this storyline?
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Mallaiyuran / April 24, 2024
Singar, listen man,
You cannot be a half-brother of our mate, LankaScot by refusing to believe in anything. You have to believe in something, at least. Raman was a Dravidian prince and at that time Aryan’s have still not conquered North India. His fight was not about Sita, who after all was only Ravana’s daughter. (Ravana and Bhumadevi’s daughter). Ravana, when he was in some trouble, it is said for some time he left her with Janakan. Raman, like Alexander the Great, went on war tours and came and ended up in Ceylon, fighting with Ravanan. See these names Ravanan, Vamanan, Saravanan, Lakuvanan, Kumanan, Sumanan, they all Tamil names though Sage Valmiki made only Ravanan name into Sanskrit. So, to make a long story short, Raman, the young prince, defeated the old King Ravanan. Don’t think it a new incident, at much later time, a Muruga Devotee from Kathirkamam, went and fought with the Old, half century ruling Tamil Buddhist king, in Anuradhapura and killed the old King. It can happen, no surprise! Once her father was killed, his brothers, to gain the kingdom from the enemy (Raman), offered Sita to Raman. Don’t misunderstand things again, when the warrior saw the statue of the beauty, he thought he might have surrendered to her father and begged for her instead of killing him and capturing her, in this manner.
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Mallaiyuran / April 24, 2024
Disappointed by his evil deed, he left everything then and there and set back to Ayodhya, to rule the empire sitting Sita, the unbelievable beauty next to him and forget the Evil that happened in Langkang. Now you are right, if you are wondering why am I struggling to not use the word “Angel” to describe the princess Sita, but repeatedly taking a full circle to talk about her beauty. That is because the Ariyans who brought the word Angel still had not come to India but were in faraway lands like Persia and Afghanistan during Ramayamam period. So as once Poet Kanathasan wrote, if I use Angel to describe Sita, the poetic metaphor is mismatching, because the Angels at that time were still in the wild and living as Barbarians. That is why Princess Sita could not be described as a barbarian. The Ceylonese fell down in the dirt and cried on losing their beloved Princess and named the village she departed as Sita Illam – Home of Sita (Now known as Sita iliya in Aandu Bhashawe). Sita Illam is the epicenter for Ramayana tours. Otherwise, If Sita was the cause of their mighty Ravana’s fall, who in the world would name a village after a devilish witch who brought curse to their king? Even the Bald Heads in the Ravanayan Pala Vegaya wouldn’t do that.
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Mallaiyuran / April 24, 2024
Even our honorable Ambassador has no clues on that.
So, at a time when there were no horses in India, the princess braved to walk behind her beloved husband from Nuvarelia mountains to Ayothi. Here our other admirable atheist, Karunanidhi, tells a line in a different circumstance, when justice was denied to Kannagi and her husband’s head was cut off. This is the Line: ” Kaaladi thaamarai novadhu marandhu Kaadhalanodu nadandhaalae Andha kaalamum thodarndhu nadandhadhai arindhu Karpukkarasi thudithaalae” (Not minding the lotus feet swelling or bleeding, jolting she went behind her love, when came to know the angel of the death too had caught them, she wiggled worse than a wrom). This time the circumstances were, she was pregnant. Her mind forgot the body and took the pain simply, but the body succumbed to it. She fell and died on the jungle path. The doctors who accompanied the band took away the princess, without Raman seeing, cut her stomach, to save the child so he could rule the land in future. Alas, they were losing hope. Some brave soldiers ran into the nearby village and stole a child from a woman who was still curling in delivery pain. Unfortunately, both parties presented the children to the prince at the same time.
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Mallaiyuran / April 24, 2024
This time Raman didn’t want to take a risk. He was well aware that carrying those children to Ayothi is equal to killing them by roasting on a hot pan. He met a sage in the jungle and gave them both to bring up. With the mere thought of his beautiful princess, with the lost feeling of the war tour, he came back to the Kingdom. He didn’t feel like ruling. He left the brothers to take care of the Kingdom. Sage Valmiki lied that Raman conducted Aswamedha Yagna. How can you celebrate Aswametha yagna without a queen or a horse? You may be able to clap one hand, but can you clap 2/3 hands? That kind of lie only makes our mate LankaScot not believe in Ram. So, he believes in Buddha and brings whatever the stories the Sinhala Buddhists think as was said by Lord Buddha, to CT. He is a nice guy but a poor one to believe in Sinhala Buddhism! You can’t blame him for that. It is not his fault. It was the fault of Sage Valmiki.
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LankaScot / April 26, 2024
Hello Mallaiyuran,
What do you call someone that believes something without evidence. There are many different versions of the Ramayana, some from North India and some from the South. Alexander the Great (Secunda) invaded around 325 BC and began trade between the Greeks and Indians (Many Greeks stayed in India after Alexander left). Valmiki and later writers probably interwove ancient legends like Helen of Troy and Indian legends to create his version of the Ramayana. By the way “horse sacrifices” were a feature of the Pontic Steppe people, and as the “earliest uncontroversial evidence of horse remains on the Indian Subcontinent date to the early Swat culture (around 1600 BCE)” this means that this is likely to be the earliest date for the original Ramanaya. Remember it’s a story (legend) and there is no historical evidence for the existence of Rama or Ravana. The Greek god Zeus is mentioned (as a god) in Linear B documents from around 1400 BCE. That is real contemporary evidence. Are there any deciphered documents of the same age that mention Rama? Please remember stories are NOT evidence. Alexander minted many coins bearing dates, So did Chandragupta Maurya – this is real evidence.
Best regards
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SJ / April 26, 2024
LS
You are dealing with one too many characters who do not want evidence.
They decide on who is guilty and what the punishment is before an offence is committed.
Then they look for an offence and discard all evidence that reject the verdict.
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Bigotry is worse than any kind of lunacy.
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LankaScot / April 26, 2024
Hello SJ,
I read an IT PhD Thesis that was written by a Sri Lankan Post Graduate Student on an IT subject that I was teaching. It was abysmal, full of incorrect terminology, bad grammar, incoherent, rambling and illogical in many places. I found his original Sinhala Thesis and with a relation’s help we translated it into English. Turns out that he had used Google Translate (this was a couple of years ago) and his Sinhala version was pretty good.
My point is – do you think that any CT Forum members use Google Translate or do they actually produce incoherent garbage (no names mentioned😉)?
Best regards
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SJ / April 26, 2024
LS
Even Google has to work very hard to get it screwed up the way we see.
Incoherence is in the source I fear.
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Mallaiyuran / April 27, 2024
Is it you who wrote the evidence report to the Florida lab to prove that the remains in the Mannar mass burial were 600 years old, Portuguese committed murders? For a long time, the CIA was reporting Deva crimes were proven. Now the American Ambassador talks with him to make deals. You are a shameless coward, never had the courage to say openly what you come to tell, because you are always fearful of commentators, who with one or two words will Prove that what is your hidden agenda behind your illumination & observe bluffs. Now you are telling in Tamils accusations names are missing. What makes you worry about the names not mentioned in the accusation. Is that this time elections payments may go down if your candidates do not win. Everybody knows who did what. 6.9M Modayas voted to Hitler only because they honestly believed that he was the one who killed 165,000 Tamils. You never convinced anybody. Your words were taken seriously only when they wanted to reject diaspora VC’s application, because he was a man outside of rotten local culture. You are a rodeo warrior by kills bulls with a big sword, with closed wings like Langkang. Every Peethal SLFPyer pulling down his pants, tying on head and falling on Evil’s feet for Minister position. Even Chandrika is in that.
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LankaScot / April 27, 2024
Hello Mallaiyuran,
You don’t seem to understand how Carbon C14 Dating laboratories work. Because of high Radiation levels from Atomic bomb testing since the 1950s, it is very difficult to measure ages of recent skeletons. You can only say “likely recent post 1950s”. For older human remains it becomes more accurate.
As per the Florida Lab Report – I don’t think that the Scientists there would fabricate the date of the bones tested, but I could be wrong.
The most likely case is that the bones provided were actually 600 or so years old. So who provided these bones? Which department has access to bones of this age? Bones of any age, when newly dug up have a different appearance than those that have been stored in an Archaeological/Museum Case. I know because on a University dig in the UK we unearthed a Femur bone that we thought was Human and were required to inform the Police. The Police Forensics determined that it was recent, however it wasn’t Human but from a Calf (young cow).
Mass Graves are usually supervised carefully by International Archaeologists/Experts to prevent foul play. Could the Sri Lankan Archaeological Society have switched bones?
Best regards
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davidthegood / April 27, 2024
SJ, I agree with you. Bigotry and self-exaltation in their own opinions is very prevalent in most comments made in these CT articles. No sense of being under any authority.
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old codger / April 24, 2024
SAV,
I don’t think even the highly educated HC takes the Ramayana literally. But many Indians do, and those are the ones that want to visit. They want to believe that the “Sita Temple” is an ancient one, not one built by plantation workers. The pay good money too. To a bankrupt country, that makes a difference.
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Singar A. Velan / April 24, 2024
OC: I am all in favour of increased tourism as a way of dealing with the financial problems. Some years ago, I even wrote to the Chief Minister of the North (whose incompetence was not known then) to consider running the Nallur temple festival three times a year, so more of the expatriates will visit, spend their money and trigger economic activity. It is far better for visitors to spend money paying taxi drivers, hotels and toddy tappers — who earn a day’s honest wage — than to send that annual $50 to lazy nephews on their birthdays, facilitating delinquency.
But, Sir, more seriously, Sita temples is not what Sri Lanka lacks in encourging tourism — it is clean public toilets. Be it the roadside cafe on A9 where the overnight Jaffna bus makes a stop, or the corridors of that most beautiful university at the foot of Hantana, toilets — when you can find one — stink. Why, oh why?
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SJ / April 24, 2024
SAV
When did you last visit that university?
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Singar A. Velan / April 25, 2024
SJ: It is not a good idea to reveal such personal data on a public forum. But IF the question implies a transition towards the better in the cleanliness of toilets has taken place, my last visit has to have happened before that, I concede.
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SJ / April 25, 2024
My last two visits were very brief.
But the earlier one a few years ago was not unpleasant in that regard
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Singar A. Velan / April 26, 2024
Sorry, “I was OK on that one occasion,” is not something I could attach much significance to.
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SJ / April 26, 2024
I concede that I was not a toilet inspector at any stage.
However, foul smell in toilets or corridors does not go into hiding for just a day.
I was a regular visitor until eight years ago. Much had improved in that period.
Subsequent visits were occasional.
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I am reminded of a person who poked fun here about long queues in banks in this country.
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Singar A. Velan / April 27, 2024
SJ:
// was not a toilet inspector //
One only needs to be a user to wish for better standards, not an expert inspector.
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SJ / April 27, 2024
SAV
I was not sure if you needed expert opinion to convince you.
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Lester / April 26, 2024
Singar Velan,
Old Codger goes to the alms-giving (let us say for the purposes of a “balanced diet”) and blames his lot on the country being bankrupt. For which he claims tourism is a panacea. Tourism is not a long-term solution. One could just go to Maldives and have a similar experience. Like you said, Sri Lanka has “fundamental problems” that will not be fixed by charging tourists $10 USD for a plate of rice. The wealth gap needs to be addressed and for that people ought to have better job opportunities.
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Singar A. Velan / April 27, 2024
Leicester:
“One could just go to Maldives and have a similar experience.”
This is true for some tourists who want to just lie in the sun and get skin cancer. But the interior of Sri Lanka is immensely more beautiful than the archipelago. Anyone visiting would want to visit again, but they will remember the difficulty with public toilets more than they will remember the beautiful land they saw hiking along the Pekoe trail. And yes, I agree tourism is no pancea, but is a small part of the solution.
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SJ / April 26, 2024
oc
” built by plantation workers”
Built with their money, like the CWC headquarters in Colombo.
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ramona therese fernando / April 23, 2024
Adam’s bridge was there 115,000-11,700 years ago. Interaction between our countries has been via boats since then. Building an artificial modern bridge over the ancient holy site will disrupt the balance of nature and ecology of animals and humans in our two countries. Artificially force-assimilating our two countries is only to boost up the monetary capital of the West.
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LankaScot / April 26, 2024
Hello Ramona,
What is your evidence for Adam’s bridge from 115,000 years ago. There were no modern humans in India back then. There is evidence of real bridges (built of brick) in Babylon from about 4000 BCE. Are there any bridges of that age or more in India?
Best regards
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SJ / April 26, 2024
LS
How dare you question an estimate given to a precision of 100 years (11,600 +/- 100)?
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Lester / April 26, 2024
LankaScot,
What do you think about this? https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/pia24949-adams-bridge-india-sri-lanka
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Lester / April 26, 2024
According to NASA, the bridge exists, but “the geologic origin of the bridge is still controversial.” Of course they can’t be proponents of Ramayana, the satellite image is as far as they can go.
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LankaScot / April 27, 2024
Hello Lester,
Perfectly good image, you can also see this on Google Earth. It is a natural formation, Limestone shoals. https://www.propertypistol.com/blog/the-science-behind-adams-bridge-understanding-the-formation-and-history-of-ram-setu/
As for the 15th Century evidence, I would like to see it. I was on an Oil Rig that drilled on the Netherlands part of the Dogger Bank. We brought up pieces of Lignite from submerged Forests. The Dogger Bank was probably inundated about 8000 or so years ago. Fisherman had also brought up artifacts in their nets over the recent past.
So yes it is likely that Adam’s Bridge was passable in the past, but it wasn’t built by monkeys.
Best regards
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ramona therese fernando / April 27, 2024
LankaScot,
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That limestones shoals have conveniently arranged themselves to form one long bridge between the two countries is a miracle.
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ramona therese fernando / April 27, 2024
LankaScot,
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It’s in the Ramayana, so it can be regarded as mythological as it is so far in time. But there definitely was a bridge or shallow area over 11,000 years ago between the two land masses. Whether it was mere limestone or another super-structure for its time can be left to legend. India might be suppressing the truth because there is large money involved for their investor-billionaires.
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God Rama might have really come over with his army of monkeys to rescue his wife Sita from malevolent King Ravana . Not sure if it a holy tale, for holy tales are about doing something profound for fellow man like Christ, Buddha, and Mohammad. Now Lankans going to India to visit the Buddhist sites is true holy pilgrimage. Also, the visiting of Indian gods can be considered holy (not many gods in Sri Lanka). And god Rama went back to India in the end.
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As for the bridge, humans have venerated it for over 10,000 years. So, there must be some power and an evolved God watching over the area. So better keep it sacred for the sake of the struggling Masses of both countries.
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old codger / April 27, 2024
Ramona,
“As for the bridge, humans have venerated it for over 10,000 years. “
Who says so?
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ramona therese fernando / April 27, 2024
OC,
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Wikipedia says, “The ancient Sanskrit epic Ramayana (8th century BCE–3rd century CE) mentions a bridge constructed by the god Rama to reach the island Lanka and rescue his wife Sita from Ravana. In popular belief, Lanka is equated to present-day Sri Lanka and the bridge is described as “Rama’s Setu”.”
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As it was constructed by God Rama, it is considered sacred to Hindus. It is part of the Ramayana trail. Cannot destroy deep devotion, can we?
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The bridge is more important than the rest of the trail as the superstructure was built by the God. Only superstructure in the world that is recorded as being built by a God.
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ramona therese fernando / April 27, 2024
And God Rama never tried to conquer Lanka. He only got his wife back and never considered adding Lanka to his domain.
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LankaScot / April 28, 2024
Hello Ramona,
This is probably better historical evidence about dates, Rama’s father was the Indian Mauryan King Dasharatha. “Dasharatha Maurya (IAST: Daśaratha) was the 4th Mauryan emperor from 232 to 224 BCE. He was a grandson of Ashoka The Great and is commonly held to have succeeded him as the Emperor of India “.
Read the evidence here – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasharatha_Maurya.
I am sure that many here will look to their gods for Evidence, but since the invention of Smart Phones they have been keeping away. But don’t worry AI will be able soon to fake it for them.
Best regards
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Mallaiyuran / April 24, 2024
“In that sense, it reaffirms my oft-repeated assertion that we are civilisational twins sharing the same antiquity. From this it follows that we are not after all big or small sisters or brothers but one of the same age and antiquity with neither being small or big vis-a-vis each other.”
That makes a lot of sense. Isn’t that why Telugu Pandit Mahanama said they are the children of North Indian Narasimhan?
Actually this reminds me of the Old Rowdy King, who right after killing 165,000 with Sonia Gandhi, China, Western countries, Russia, Israel and Iranian arms, said there is only one race in Langkang ( left now because I have genocided the other one)”. India, for the first time in its history of freedom, has got a candidate to represent Indian Narasimhans in Langkang. After all Raman was Dravidian and in his time he didn’t have a horse come to Ceylon so he was using a monkey to move around, as per Sage Valmiki.
Jayawewa Hindustan!
Jayawewa Langkang!!
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Lester / April 26, 2024
“After all Raman was Dravidian”
Rama was not a Dravidian. Rather than try to change the characters to make them sound more “friendly”, it’s better for you to simply reject Ramayana as Aryan propaganda. It is another story of conqueror vs conquered that pains the Dravidians in a bad light. Ramayana must be the North Indian equivalent of “Mein Kampf.”
“EVR acknowledges that Tamilians will not find it easy to accept this view of Rama, attributing this reluctance to their illiteracy and the power of “superstition” among them. He notes with disappointment how most Tamilians (aside from Muslims and Christians) have long venerated the Ramayana. But for EVR, insofar as the commonly held understanding of the Ramayana is essentially North Indian, it is a key part of the ideology which keeps South Indians in an inferior position, and so must be discredited. He thus argues that the Ramayana lures Dravidians into the Aryan net, destroys their self-respect, and stymies their development.”
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Lester / April 26, 2024
*paints the
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Rohan25 / April 26, 2024
Rubbish talking about mythical Ramayana trail and a recent temple built in Nuwara Eliya district, to gain tourist revenue from gullible largely North Indian pilgrims, who think that this Ramayana myth if true, but to do not care or talk about the many ancient historical Saivite temples in the north and east and even in Kathirkamam, that have now been forcibly converted to Sinhalese Buddhists shrines or being converted using fake history. It is these ancient Saivite temples that are the actual history and proof of ancient Hinduism on the island. Not this fake Sita temple that has been built a few years ago in the central hills. How ever this High Commissioner does not care, India does not care, as these are Saivite Hindu Tamil temples and their history, ancient or not and does not affect the largely Vaishnavite North Indians and their foolish belief in the Ramayana myth.
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SJ / April 26, 2024
‘largely Vaishnavite North Indians’
Only Tamilnadu has a Saivaite majority in South India, the other states are Vaishnava dominated.
Vaishnavaism gave us the most beautiful non-Sanskritized Tamil Bakthi literature we know of.
This Tamil-Saiva nonsense blocking out others has only served to rob Tamil literature of its multi-cultural richness.
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Rohan25 / April 27, 2024
Again, trying to muddy the waters. To deflect criticism from the racist Sri Lankan state and India’s reaction, as the affected people are the island’s Tamils. It is not only in Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka but large Saivite communities, also exist in the Southern Indian states of Karnataka, Telangana, Kerala and Andhra Pradesh as well as in Jammu & Kashmir, Himachal Pradesh and Uttarakhand. Substantial communities are also found in Haryana, Maharashtra and central Uttar Pradesh. Kasi is a center of Saivite worship. It is the city of Lord Siva. Yes, Vaishnavism gave us the most beautiful non Sanskritized Tamil literature and poetry, but what has all this got to with the destruction of ancient Saivite temples by the Sri Lankan state, armed forces and Sinhalese Buddhist fanatics, armed fake history and unconcern shown by the Indian state, or even other countries to the destruction of these ancient monuments, even ancient Tamil Buddhist monuments and forcibly converting them to Sinhalese Buddhist places of worship? This is what the Taliban and the ISIS were doing.
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Rohan25 / April 27, 2024
Stating what is happening is not Tamil Saiva nonsense, may be to you as, you have some sort of hatred for your own people and try to diabolically twist everything and misinterpret, every Tamil comments and jump to the defense of anti-Tamils. No one is advocating or blocking out others by stating what is happening, may be in your warped self-hating anti Tamil mind. The Tamil literature has not been robbed of its rich multicultural richness by me posting this comment. It is you who are trying your best to rob the Tamil people of everything, with your endeavours.
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SJ / April 27, 2024
Saiva Siddhanta is a rich philosophy unique to Tamils that emerged much after the Bakthi movement..
It is hardly considered in other South Indian regions.
Saivasm including all of its kind is a minority faith in South India.
Hence this North-South Aryan-Dravidian theory fall apart.
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Siva bears vastly different meanings to ‘Saivaites’ of various regions. Not much is common by way of theology.
Check it out.
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The Saiva Tamil bigots did much harm to Tamil identity here and in Tamilnadu.
I do not need to add much to it.
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