By Ummu Hana –
The concept of ‘sharia law’ or ‘Islamic law’ is a widely discussed subject for centuries. Today this concept is being largely pre-conceived by academics as well as general public around the world. Hence the sharia law become defensive, passive, outdated and isolated (Ramadan, 2009). Misconception regarding sharia law illustrious among western nation, Muslim majority countries as well as locally in Sri Lanka, also it is not limited to non-Muslims but also for Muslim and for some Muslim intellectuals. Nature of misconception regarding sharia law vary from it macro level issues to micro level issues. Due to the misinterpretation of sharia law, by some intellectuals it made to be scary instead of being a mercy to mankind and the rest.
“Europe’s long history of religious warfare and the age of Enlightenment that followed led to the establishment, in most western countries, of a firm divide between church and state. From this divide emerged the concept that religious morality should be separated from secular law. Coming from a historical and cultural tradition defined by the separation of church and state, many westerners assume that secularization is a necessary precondition for the emergence of modern, democratic forms of government that respect universal human rights”(Elbayar, n.d.). This historically rooted divisive perspective deter from approaching to the contents of a sharia law without looking at it entirety.
In Muslim majority countries the notion of sharia law became a comfort label for ruling elites either to strength the autocratic political power base or to rally voters behind political parties to seek and / or sustain the political power base. In 1979 in Government of Pakistan with the passage of the Hudood Ordinance, and in Egypt with a 1980 amendment to the constitution stating that “the principles of the Islamic sharia are the chief source of legislation.” Recently, the newly adopted Iraqi constitution included a clause stating that “no law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed laws of Islam” (Elbayar, n.d.). Several religious political parties are gaining support all across the Muslim world, from traditionally secular countries like Turkey to Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, Morocco, and Palestine.
Beyond the broader contextualization of the concept of sharia law within the political and legal domain, the Sharia law being criticized at several other micro level elements such as personal law, penal code, property law etc… “Some contemporary scholars fail to recognize Islamic Law as an equal to English Common Law, European Civil Law and Socialist Law. A few academics have even attempted to place Islamic Law into the Civil Law tradition. Other writers have simply added a footnote to their works on comparative justice on the religious law categories of Islamic Law” (Wiechman, et al., n.d.).
Within the Sri Lankan context the concept of sharia law was never being the subject of controversy in the past. Historically the “Sri Lanka’s legal system is a rich mix of native laws and laws that were placed by the colonial powers” (Cooray, 2008). The legal tradition in Sri Lanka is a combination of Portuguese, Roman Douche and English law in addition to customary and personal laws based on ancient customs of the Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims. Though this diversity being well accepted within the legal domain, today among the general public of Sri Lanka there is a significant level of lack of awareness and misconception about historically rich and pluralistic legal system of our own. This lack of conscious of the richness resulted several questions among certain citizens which can be understandable. Among those questions one important question is ‘why can’t we have one (Douche) legal system despite of having various legal systems’. As these questions arise within the citizens that are logical as we lost the memory of the richness of our own pluralistic legal system we need to give answers to these questions that can let the ordinary public being confident of what we have.
This paper concentrate in brief to provide and objective take on Sharia Law considering the need of empowering the ordinary citizens of Sri Lanka and explore research gaps to the legal experts and law students of Sri Lanka to deal with.
Conception of Sharia and Sharia Law
In understanding what is sharia law it is important to understand the primary principles entrusted on believer of Islam (Muslim) and how sharia and sharia law fit to achieve its visionary objectives. The primary principles are the higher objectives of protecting the global conception of life and death, common good and interest of humankind and the universe(Ramadan, 2009).
In nutshell sharia is nothing but the best practice applicable in purifying the heart, soul and body of any given human community and diverse social contexts to build and sustain a just human society that uphold immutable values such as justice, freedom, protection, dignity, respect etc. that are Islamic and at the meantime universally shared. In this context coming up with a best practices in terms of ethics, good governance, value adding strategies, diagnosis of social problems that harmful to the humanity and the rest, considering unique desires of social, local, regional, national, and global contexts will be a part and parcel of sharia. Further the concept of sharia relates to all the domains in terms of politics and power, economy, ecology, environment, art, culture, gender issues, purification of heart etc. in addition to law and jurisprudence and simply sharia demands to purify every worldly domain for betterment of the mankind and the rest.
The term ‘sharia law’ derived from the same concept of sharia but confined to legal perspective which include critical reading, interpretation and strategies in the legal field taking in to account of the immutable values in a given changing human and social context (Ramadan, 2009). It is important to understand that sharia is broader concept than the sharia law and reducing or narrowing down the sharia in to mere legal domain is clearly misleading.
Before go in to details, I would like to highlight some main points regarding sharia. The Sharia has two brooder components; one deals with the practices and believes of a Muslim believer including rituals (e.g.: prayers, fasting) which is to attain inner peace by getting closer to God .This segment is unique to those who believe in God. So every believer struggle to attain inner peace by identify and comply with the best way which prophet Mohamed and his companions have practiced without any innovation. The second component relates application of sharia to world at large to ensure protecting the global conception of life and death, common good and interest of humankind and the universe (Ramadan, 2009). Here my article is mainly concentrating on the second components and not the first.
In substance the sharia as well as sharia law is secular in its application but in principle fully consistent to the faith of Muslim and fully acceptable for the rest of the human being as it is in compliance with universally shared values. Accordingly “Shari or sharia lawis not an exclusive concept: but it is an open system that promotes right governance falls within its scope, as we do not have an exclusive model to which we must confine ourselves” (Ramadan, 2009).
Sharia Law and its Compatibility within the Sri Lankan Legal Context
With the higher objective of sharia in mind such as justice, protecting the global conception of life and death, common good and interest of humankind and the universe(Ramadan, 2009)we can confidently state that substantial portion of the constitution of Sri Lanka as well as the legal and judicial framework is in compliance with the concept of sharia.In other word everything within the Sri Lankan constitution, the legal and judicial system that is in compliance with the higher objectives are in compliance with sharia and we as a citizens of this country have a moral duty to ensure that the constitution as well as legal and judicial system are in consistent with the immutable values that are Islamic and universally shared.
As sharia is the way or path toward compliance to the principles of justice, continued study of legal and judicial framework as well as the constitution of Sri Lanka can confirm the applicability of it in the changing context or can add alternatives or spot light on area where legal system need to be renewed to cater the changing context. Accordingly sharia demand from Sri Lankan Muslims take responsibility to contribute as much as they can to promote justice and freedom in all spheres until the higher objective of justice, protecting the global conception of life and death, common good and interest of humankind and the universe are guaranteed to the entire citizens of the country.
In today’s contemporary world, the understanding about the notion of sharia is completely away from the higher value of sharia among most of Muslims and non-Muslims and confined to a very smaller segment. The Sri Lankan societies also are not exception to this global miss-conception.
For example as I stated earlier sharia is not confined to one particular model but to the higher values such as justice, and freedom that are universally shared. Accordingly at the outset having various legal models such as English law, douche law, Kandiyan law, thesawalami law, Muslim marriage law, property law that are comfortable to accustom various social groups can be acceptable in terms of sharia as far as these models respect the immutable values of social justice and freedom that are shared universally. Having said that today, we need to understand that over a period of time the changing dynamics of the social groups and growing complexities cause to these models to change within in order to ensure the adherence of the higher objectives.
Accordingly the legal and judicial experts and potential legal and judicial experts of Sri Lankan citizens both Muslims and non-Muslims need to assess their position on several issues within the legal domain. As I stressed several times sharia is nothing but in principle to ensure justice and freedom to mankind and rest this is not the only expectations of Muslims but universally shared and therefor in principle there cannot be a counter argument against the sharia. Therefore as far as Muslims, any effort undertaken by anyone within legal and judicial framework to ensure justice and freedom such effort that is fully complies with sharia.
When it comes to contributing in the field of ethics, law and jurisprudence with adherence to higher objectives of maintaining justice, freedom and mercy to the Sri Lankan citizens it is a shared responsibility of every concerned citizen of this country and the same responsibility indeed the portrayed Muslims through their faith. Therefore it is very clear that responsibility toward law and judicial reform is common and shared to all communities secular itself as well as fully consistent with faith of Muslims.
A Way Forward
Accordingly the sharia perspective can significantly add value to the governance structure and law and jurisprudence by motivating all concerned Muslims citizens of Sri Lanka to contribute their level best to reform and ensure the existence of a living system that fully comply with higher objectives. There is no reason to contradict with the concept of sharia in principle as it is not confined to a particular model but stress the application of higher principles consistently.
Within the Sri Lankan Muslims unfortunately the term sharia and its visionary higher values and principles are not understood or largely a distorted subject and heavily commercialized. For example when we discuss about finance related product or service, today we can see in financial market, there are several services with the brand of ‘Islamic’ that comes together with conventional services to banking, insurance and lease. Here we can see the inconsistent in terms of adopting higher principle and the motive of adding the ‘Islamic’ label is merely to attract the growing market internally and around the world today.
Therefore Sri Lankan Muslims intellectuals in general and those who were in the field of law and jurisprudence in particular get the major part of the responsibility as they have to get equipped with the higher objectives of sharia and to reform the understanding of the same within themselves as well as sharing the principle based perspective with fellow citizens of this country and moving toward better governance and legal systems.
While accepting the plurality of the legal system, the Muslim legal experts and researchers should find a way to research and propose in every domain including marriage law, property law their perspective that is fully consistent with higher objective of Islam and at the same time applicable in a secular environment.
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Jimsofty / July 27, 2013
There is trend in the world, that Muslims are doing their best to popularize and establish their system in place of the system based on the Christian thinking.
Sharia law, halal food, Muslim financial system, muslims fashions are some of those.
The problem with Sharia Law should be that Muslims use quran for every thing. Quran is a book that can be interpreted by different people in different ways. Then the result is it can be either violent, intrusive troublesome or peaceful.
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Jamal / July 27, 2013
The problem with Sharia Law should be that Muslims use quran for every thing. Quran is a book that can be interpreted by different people in different ways. Then the result is it can be either violent, intrusive troublesome or peaceful.
Pray explain why Muslims should not make the Qur’an the guiding light of their lives to uphold the best moral values, to practise the virtues of Honesty, Sincerity, Charity. Love etc.,etc.
Let me educate your hate filled mind on some of these virtues…
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Jamal / July 28, 2013
My apologies the URL should read.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ_rVHl2kMs&feature=relmfu
Jamal
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AYMAN / July 27, 2013
SHARIAH LAW IS FOR MUSLIMS.
SHARIAH IS IMPOSED ON MUSLIMS NOT OTHERS.
WELL WE CONSUME HALAL FOOD. WE CANT EAT PORK,DEAD ANIMALS,ETC.,
YOU ARE FRE TO EAT THE FLESH OF PIG WHICH LIVES ON SHIT.
MUSLIM FINANCIAL SYSTEM IS FOR MUSLIMS. SINCE INTEREST IS NOT PERMITTED BUT TRADING SINCE INTEREST IS FIXED, WHEREAS ISLAMIC FINANCE IS ON”PROFIT AND LOSS SYSTEM”-JUST AND FAIR. THIS AGAIN IS FOR MUSLIMS.
NO ONE IS IMPOSING IT ON NON MUSLIMS.
WHY ARE NON MUSLIM BANKS ACCEPTING THE MUSLIM FINANCIAL SYSTEM?
IT IS NOT IMPOSED?
YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO “GOLDEN KEY INVESTORS”
MUSLIM FASHION IS FOR MUSLIM WOMEN, SINCE THERE IS AN “ISLAMIC DRESS CODE” FOR MUSLIM WOMEN. NO ONE IS IMPOSING ON NON MUSLIMS.
WHY DENY FREEDOM TO THE WOMEN WHO IS MODEST.
SHARIAH IS BASED ON QURAN AND SUNNAH, AND WE ARE EXPECTED TO GO
BY THE INTERPRETATIONS OF THE COMPANIONS AND SUCCESSORS SINCE MOST OF THEM WERE THERE AT THE TIME OF REELATION AN WERE TAUGHT BY THE PROPHET
S.A.W.S HIMSELF.
ANY BOOK CAN BE GIVEN DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS BUT NOTE ONLY ONE
IS CORRECT.
WHAT ABOUT THE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF BIBLE ?
PLEASE DO NOT MAKE FALSE STATEMENTS.
I STUDIED THE BIBLE WHEN I WAS SIX AND I CAN TAKE ON ANY CHRISTIAN
ON WHAT IT CONTAINS.
THE REVELATIONS TO JESUS WAS FROM GOD AND IT IS PART OF OUR MUSLIM FAITH TO BELIEVE IN IT AND THE TORAH TOO AS THEY WERE REVEALED.
NOT THE NEW INTERPRETATIONS AND CORRUPTED VERSIONS WHICH ARE IN USE.
THAT IS THE REASON FOR SECTS- 7TH DAY ADVENTISTS,JEHOVAS WITNESSES
MORMONS ETC.,
SO PLEASE LEARN TO PRACTICE YOUR RELIGION AND RESPECT THE OTHERS TOO.
I HAVE STUDIED ALL RELIGIONS,I AM A MUSLIM AN DO RESPECT THE VALUES OF OTHERS. I HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH THOSE WHO ARE NOT MUSLIMS.
THE PROBLEM IS WHEN RELIGION IS POLITICIZED AND COMMERCIALIZED,AS
IT IS TODAY.
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Tyrone / July 27, 2013
Mr. AYMAN, dont decieve people with your lies, We know Sharia is Islamic Law is applied not only Muslims, but to Non-Muslims also…
And It is mostly based on Koran, Sira (Mohammed’s biography) and Hadith (his Traditions).
In Sharia Law about CAPITAL PUNISHMENT,
A Muslim may be sentenced to death under Shariah, Islamic law, for the murder of a Muslim, adultery, apostasy (deserting Islam), etc
A dhimmi (zimmi, non-Muslim living in an Islamic state) can be executed for sex with a Muslim woman, and “persecution” of Islam, for example blasphemy against Allah or Prophet Muhammad, or attempting to proselytise i.e. convert a Muslim from his religion.
HADITH
Sahih Muslim Book 16, Chapter 6, Number 4152
The Prophet said: “It is not permissible to take the life of a Muslim except in one of the three cases: the married adulterer, a life for a life (if the person is Muslim), and the deserter of Islam.”
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Steel / July 28, 2013
Btw, you choose to continuously pick on Islam and you never refute my question.
Christian god in
1 Samuel 15:3 says
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”
Kill babies?
Now dont give me the silly argument of old and new testament. I know they are different but the Christian god is the same in both new and old testament.
WHY DON’T YOU ADMIT YOUR CHRISTIAN GOD IS A CHILD MURDERER AS I QUOTED THE BIBLE ITSELF.
Christian god commands in
Numbers 31:17
Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
Your christian god (Jesus, as you say god is jesus and jesus is god) orders men to check for virginity and the talmud says 3 year old girls were raped.
IS YOUR CHRISTIAN GOD ORDERING 3 YEAR OLD GIRLS TO BE RAPED?
Btw, you clean up the things on your religion before attacking Islam.
I have wonderful Christian friends but because of people like you, I am forced to bring this up.
I can laugh all day. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. HOW CAN A CHRISTIAN WHOSE BIBLE SAYS DIRECTLY TO KILL BABIES AND RAPE 3 YEAR OLD BABY GIRLS, EVEN DREAM OF TALKING BAD ABOUT ISLAM.
YOU ARE FUNNY.
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Steel / July 28, 2013
Btw, stop quoting Hadiths. Those are written 200 years after the Prophet. Quote the Quran. I quoted the Bible and nothing else, so you quote the Quran.
I repeat again, dont give me this old testament is this excuse. I have spoken to scholars in Christianity and they say Jesus, god and holy ghost are one and have been since the beginning of time. So, this means ordering babies killed and 3 year old girls raped were by god or jesus if you believe in your teachings.
You following such a religion, how can you even think of insulting us. You are here just to spread lies. I am here for peace. We want live together in peace.
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Dino / July 28, 2013
To answer all Questions, you need to understand the Doctrine of Christian Teaching ‘Trinity’, if you don’t understand it then its your problem, not ours. But I will give answers from Bible itself.
Jesus was there from the Beginning… its mentioned in the bible in the first verse itself. Bible says God Is One. But God Is Three.
Deutronomy. 6:4; Matt. 28:19
Father = God, Son = God, but Father != Son, its even explained in Bible. Ephesians. 1:17; Hebrew. 1:8; Acts 5:3-4
The Father Is Eternal.The Son Is Eternal.The Spirit Is Eternal.
Isaiah. 9:6; Hebrew. 7:3; Hebrew. 9:14
The Father, the Son, and the Spirit Coexist and Coinhere.
John 14:26; 15:26
The Father and the Son Are Inseparable.
John 14:10-11; 8:29; 16:32
The Son and the Spirit Are Inseparable.
John 14:16-18 2 Cor. 3:17
God is All Powerful, He created Man he can destroy Man. That is his will. So saying God told this told that doesnt make Jesus told this or not. Jesus didnt tel anywhere to Kill anyone. Only Father / Jehovah told. So dont confuse and speak out of context.
Samuel is 1000 BC – 1100 BC Prophet and ‘Father’ gave commands during that time, but Jesus came 1000 Years later in the Form of Human and told “I am the Way, the Truth, the Life, He who follows me will be in heaven with Me”
So whatever told in 1000 BC is IRRELEVANT, and the Commands given by Father is not necessary to be the same as Son Jesus. Christian means Follower of Christ (Messiah/Jesus).
From scientific perspective :-
Humans are Unitarian Beings (3 Dimensional), God is NOT Unitarian, God is Hyper Dimensional beings (Trinitarian beings), Beyond Human beings and Beyond Human understandings. That why they are from the Beginning till the End (Time / Space)
Assume If Humans are 2 Dimensional and God is QUBE (3 Dimensional), for God to enter 2 Dimensional World, He needs to use either one of the 6 FACES OF THE QUBE. So Human (2D) seeing the 6 Sides of the QUBE should not think it is 6 GODS, it is one GOD.
Hope this explains all your questions.
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AMAN / July 31, 2013
DEAR DINO is the bible contradicting itself?
God cannot become human, Deuteronomy 6:4, Isaiah 44:6, Hosea 11:9, Ezekiel 28:2, Numbers 23:19)
(no one can take on the sins of others, Deuteronomy 24:16, Exodus32:30-35, Ezekiel 18:1-4; 20-24; 26-27)
(God rejects human sacrifice and blood sacrifice is NOT an absolute requirement – Deuteronomy 12:30-31, Jeremiah 19:4-6, Psalm 106:37-38, Ezekiel 16:20, Leviticus 5:11-13, Jonah 3:10,Leviticus 17, Leviticus 5:11-13, Numbers 16:47, Numbers 31:50, Isaiah 6:6-7, Jeremiah 7:22-23, Psalm 51:16-17)
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Dino / July 28, 2013
Christians use only One book – “BIBLE” nothing else.
If you say, Dont quote HADITH then I can only laugh at you.
Islam is based upon the Trilogy — Koran, Sira (Mohammed’s biography) and Hadith (his Traditions).
The Five Pillars of Islam are five basic acts in Islam, considered obligatory by believers and are the foundation of Muslim life. They are not mentioned in the Quran, however they are summarized in the famous hadiths.
So HADITH’s are part and parcel of ISLAM and You cant dictate some one to Not to QUOTE From HADITH. Ask any MUSLIM SCHOLAR, they will use all the THREE. QURAN, SIRA (Muhammed’s Biography) and HADITH.
As per Muslim Scholars if you dont follow HADITH, you cant live a TRUE MUSLIM LIFE.
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Alan / July 29, 2013
Dinu,
Do u believe GOD is one? Yes muslims should follow the hadith, but only true hadises. we call it Shahih hadith. There are some fake hadiths without proof.
If you believe GOD is one……How can be a Jesus GOD? Jesus is a human being, he is not a GOD. If you believe Jesus is GOD, then ADAM, NUAH, MOSES, BUDDHA, ABRAHAM etc etc all should be GOD….
What a funny u talk about.
Jesus was there from the Beginning… its mentioned in the bible in the first verse itself. Bible says God Is One. But God Is Three.
Deutronomy. 6:4; Matt. 28:19
How can be GOD is one and GOD is three?? what a logic are you talking about?
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AYMAN / July 27, 2013
O.K. WE ARE TRYING TO SPREAD GOOD. YOU ARE FREE TO ACCEPT OR REJECT.
NO ONE IS FORCING IT ON YOU. YOU SAY IT IS THE TREND WORLWIDE. WHY?
CHRISTIANS ARE TURNING TO ISLAM EVERY MINUTE. CHURCHES ARE EMPTY AND BEING BOUGHT BY MUSLIMS TO BE CONVERTED TO MOSQUE,PAYING HARD CASH
“Muslims in Europe are increasingly converting empty Christian churches into mosques.
The proliferation of mosques housed in former churches reflects the rise of Islam as the fastest growing religion in post-Christian Europe.
There are now more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians in many parts of Europe, not only in large urban centers, but also in smaller towns and cities across the continent.
As Islam replaces Christianity as the dominant religion in Europe, more and more churches are set to become mosques, which increasingly serve not only as religious institutions but also function as the foundational political building blocks for the establishment of separate, parallel Muslim communities in Europe that are based on Islamic Sharia law.
The latest churches destined to become mosques are located in Germany, where the Roman Catholic Church has announced plans to close up to six churches in Duisburg, an industrial city in northwestern part of the country, due to falling church attendance.
Duisburg, which has a total population of 500,000, is home to around 100,000 mostly Turkish Muslims, making it one of the most Islamized cities in Germany.
Muslims in Duisburg are now clamoring to turn empty churches in the city into mosques, according to the Germany daily newspaper, Der Westen
WHAT IS CHRISTIAN THINKING ? JUST GIVE ME SOME EXAMPLES.
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM IF WE FOLLOW THE QURAN.
WE OBEY GOD AND HIS MESSENGER.
YOU CHRISTIANS WILL NOT POSE THESE STUPID QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS
IF YOU FOLLOW THE ORIGINAL REVELATIONS TO JESUS.
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Jasica David / July 28, 2013
I asked one of my Muslim friends, why cannot Allah save the Muslims in Myanmar?. He said, they are not very religious so Allah decided to punish them.
In that case, I asked, so it is Allah wish ? He said yes indeed. Allah is the matter of all.
Then I asked several questions.
If it is Allah’s wish why do other Muslim countries shout against what is going on in Myanmar? so those Muslims are shouting against Allah’s wish ?
And what sort of a God is Allah to kill those who don’t pray him properly?
And my other question was,
What about other religious, they have no faith in Allah, so Allah can kill them ?
Answering this question, he said, it is our duty to make them believe in Allah, if they don’t, we have to kill them for their own benefit. That is what Allah wants.
Second and the third question remained unanswered and my Muslim friend wanted to quit the discussion saying “ Allah is divine”
Well, it is up to you to answer those questions.
1) even among Muslims, More religious Muslims kill / torcher less religious Muslims
2) When Muslims are the majority, or when they have power, they simply force others to be Muslims or if not kill them saying “it is for the benefit of those who don’t believe in Allah”
3) Islam has neither logic nor any base. It contradicts with what it says.
4) To cover up things that they can’t answer Muslims say “it is God’s will and it should not be questioned”
Islam is the Devils religion. Those who get caught in it become part of devil and start speeding the disease to others.
The world needs a clean-up now, before it is too late. Research deep, and you will find out why Myanmar people had to act against Islamic cancer in Myanmar.
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Alan / July 29, 2013
Jasica Davit,
Why are you so Racist against Islam? If you want to know Islam read Quran………Don’t ask from your friend because they don’t know about Islam.
I think you wanted the war in Sri Lanka too…………..
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AMAN / July 31, 2013
//I asked one of my Muslim friends, why cannot Allah save the Muslims in Myanmar?. He said, they are not very religious so Allah decided to punish them//
JEHOVAH COUDNT SAVE HIS OWN SON JESUS, HOW CAN HE SAVE MUSLIMS IN MYANMAR.
He went on a little farther and bowed with his face to the ground, praying,(like Muslims pray) “My Father! If it is possible, let this cup of suffering be taken away from me. Yet I want your will to be done, not mine.”(Matthew 26:39)
Then Jesus went away a second time and prayed, “My Father, if I must do this[c] and it is not possible for me to escape it, then I pray that what you want will be done.”(Matthew 26:42)
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Amarasiri / July 28, 2013
Jim Softy.
Women’s Rights before and After Islam
Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQAPvoqF1-Q
A catholic TV interview with Shaikh Yusuf Estes[part 2],talking about Pr
Uploaded on Dec 19, 2010
A very good interview of Shaikh Yusuf Estes with catholic tv.
The host is very nice person who really tried to understand isalm.
Including shaikh Yusuf Estes’ convert story.
About Islam.
About 5 pillars of islam.
About caliphs.
About women in islam.
About Koran.
About Allah.
Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQpu1FAnbWA
Part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmdCtfcvsWE
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AYMAN / August 7, 2013
YUSUF ESTES IS AN “IMPOSTOR” POSING AS AS A MUSLIM.
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Tyrone / July 27, 2013
Dear Madam,
Can you explain to me Why under Islamic Law, ‘Jizya’ Tax is applied to Non-Muslims,
In Hadith, Sahih Bukhari
Volume 4, Book 53, Number 386 – Muhammad commanded Al-Mughira and his army to fight non-Muslims until they worshiped Allah alone or gave jizya
Why is it ??? if non-muslims dont pay, they are ordered to be killed…?
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Ahmed / July 27, 2013
But nowadays too every citizen has to pay tax disregarding religion.
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Taraki / July 27, 2013
That is irrelevant. The tax you refer to is a Government tax. Tyrone is referring to a religious tax. Try and answer his question.
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Jamal / July 27, 2013
Welcome back Lester (aka Tyrone). Back again un the fray to mislead with your malice eh?
Source: http://dawanet.com/nonmuslim/intro/war/war6.html
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Sabrina / July 27, 2013
U didnt answer the question but try to skip it !! that is how is law does. when it comes to unexplainable, they just skip.. shame on u !!
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Lanka Liar / July 27, 2013
Never answer the question. That is Islam. Just read the Koran
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Anura / July 27, 2013
In Sri Lanka, can I say I am subject only to Kandyan law but not to SUDDA’s Roman law? Will I get punished?
Is Roman Law better than Kandyan law? Now you guys are sure Roman law is better and civilized than Sharia Law? I don’t know.. but it seems, lot of you have an opinion on this..
In Kandyan Law it is allowed a women to have two men. SUDDAs would like to use SL Kandyan Law because two men with a single women is very popular in pornography these days, Ancient Sinhalese Kings and Legislators should have known this. Is this permitted in Sharia Law?
Anura
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AYMAN / July 27, 2013
JIZYA IS A TAX ON NON MUSLIMS WHO ARE ABLE TO PAY,SINCE THEY DO NOT PAY
ZAKAT WHICH IS MANDATORY ON MUSLIMS. THEY ARE GUARANTEED ALL PROTECTION
AND IN TIME OF WAR THEY ARE NOT OBLIGED TO JOIN THE MUSLIM FORCES.
“Jizya was applied to every free adult male member of the People of the Book. Slaves, women, children, the old, the sick,[2] monks, hermits and the poor,[3] were all exempt from the tax, unless any of them was independent and wealthy”.
According to Muslim accounts of Umar, in his time some payers of the jizya were compensated if they had not been cared for properly. The accounts vary, but describe his meeting an old Jew begging, and assisting him; according to one version:
Umar said to him, “Old man! We have not done justice to you. In your youth we realized Jizyah from you and have left you to fend for yourself in your old age”. Holding him by the hand, he led him to his own house, and preparing food with his own hands fed him and issued orders to the treasurer of the Bait-al-mal that that old man and all others like him, should be regularly doled out a daily allowance which should suffice for them and their dependents.[69]
BRING YOUR PROOF THAT NON PAYER HAS TO BE KILLED.
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Tyrone / July 27, 2013
AYMAN,
The Proof is here in the HADITH (Muhammed’s Traditions)
Sahih Muslim
Book 19, Number 4294 states that Muhammad commanded his military leaders to demand jizya from non-Muslims if they refused to accept Islam, and to fight them if they refused to pay
Book 19, Number 4294 states that Muhammad commanded his military leaders to demand jizya from non-Muslims if they refused to accept Islam, and to fight them if they refused to pay.
Main Proof :-
Sunan Abu-Dawud
Book 19, Number 3031 states that Muhammad captured Ukaydir, the Christian prince of Dumah, and spared his life and made peace with him on the condition that he paid jizya
Any comments ??? (Here all the Muhammad referred to Prohpet Muhammed himself)
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Shezard / July 27, 2013
Under Shariah law, Muslims would be expected to pay Zakaat, 2.5% of their savings, this would be their tax.The Jizya is the tax taken from non-Muslims in return for security and full freedom to practice their religion( btw Shariah law presently doesnt exist in any country in the world not even in Saudi although they claim so)
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AYMAN / August 7, 2013
ON THE SPOT.WELL SAID SHEZARD.
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abey / September 15, 2013
What shall you do if all the majority non-Muslims demand a tax from Muslims in return for security and full freedom to practice Islam in Sri Lanka. It is reasonable or not?
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pasel / July 27, 2013
we need Sharia Law punish this bastard
[Edited out]
We are sorry the comment language is English – CT
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Jim softy / July 27, 2013
I don’t think that man was married to her without him becoming a Muslims.
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Amarasiri / July 27, 2013
Jim Softy,
Suppose you have ONLY two options.
1. Get married to a pretty Muslim Virgin but must convert to Islam.
2. Get married to a not so pretty, ugly, non-Muslim Virgin Girl, but there is no need to become a Muslim.
What would do you do?
Would you think of your offspring?
The Emperor Akbar got married to a pretty Hindu Princes, but kept his religion. In fact he tried to form a new religion.
Just Curious.
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saman / July 27, 2013
I would JUst play eith the muslim wonam [Edited out]
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Amarasiri / July 27, 2013
Jim Softy =Saman,
“Suppose you have ONLY two options.”
Your desire is not an option offered.
Remember, the four Noble Truths?
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Amarasiri / July 27, 2013
Jim Softy.
How I came to Islam – Jim Softy- A Pretty Girl?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gr54pYc3Ak
How I came to Islam – Dr. Laurence Brown | Interfaith Issues – Episode
Uploaded on Jun 11, 2011
How I came to Islam – Dr. Laurence Brown | Interfaith Issues – Episode 3
A graduate of Cornell University, Brown University Medical School and George Washington University Hospital residency program, Laurence B. Brown is an ophthalmic surgeon, a retired Air Force officer, and the medical director and chief ophthalmologist of a major eye center. He is also an ordained interfaith minister with a doctorate in divinity and a PhD in religion, and the author of a number of books of comparative religion and reality-based fiction. His works can be found on his website, http://www.LevelTruth.com
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Amarasiri / July 28, 2013
Jim Softy,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V465msZXYw
Priests and Preachers Entering Islam By Yusuf Estes
Jim Softy too can Enter Islam and Marry Pretty Girls.
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Abhaya Premawardena / July 27, 2013
gee what can I say this medivial bullshit is the shit . I dont know why we think its a bad idea to stone to death a woman who sleeps with another man . lets get more stones folks .
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Amarasiri / July 27, 2013
Abahaya Premawardaha,
It comes from the Old Testament, the Jewish Traditions.
What is Religion?
The religious men have the most go gain, by maintaining their hegemony, and controlling the rulers and the people. The people are innocent and are programmed, just like the computer hardware that is controlled by the operating system software (Religion).
Given below are the beliefs of humans over the millenia, ever since humans spread out from East Africa, 70,000 years ago.
Karl Marx Claimed that Religion is the opium of the masses.
What did the Enlightened Buddha Teach? What are they practicing in Sri Lanka? What did Prophet Mohamed teach? What are the Wahhabi’s practicing?
Read and Watch, the Story of God and Alternate views.
Richard Dawkins: The Arrogance of Religious Persons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC58vglNOOo
Atheism is NOT a religion – Sam Harris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKNNCfyXaps
(BBC) The Story of God – Part 1: Life the Universe and Everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G96kWVCvEM
(BBC) The Story of God – Part 2: No God but God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fld6sLBJ_rM
The Story of God Part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMvibwRVYNA
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PEACELOVER / July 27, 2013
SHARIA LAW , is a DIVINE LAS which comes from the ALMIGHTY , THE SUPER INTELLIGENT who only knows every clees and what it has inside ..
WHY CAN NOT THIS ISLAMIC LAW IMPOSED ON ” ONLY MULSIMS” IN SRI LANKA ? Then our mother lanka can make SOME Muslims to behave and live in a moral way without doing any wrong or misbehaviour upon which some lankan muslims who are labelled wrong doers will be punished and purified and the number of criminal will be reduced in prison …
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Vibhushana / July 27, 2013
2 things,
– Animals are bled to death in order to maintain “cleanliness” when consuming meet.
– The Sri Lankan under-aged maid put to death. Parents of the victim orders the death sentence.
The first thing is a Sharia custom I presume. The screams one one hear when slitting a throat attest to a conscience present and intelligent. As you said justice is universal. Intentional killing any living being is abhorrent. Subjecting the animal to such incredible cruelty before killing is simply Psychotic.
The second is a basic Sharia law. The victim’s party is in no position to objectively make any judgements although part and parcel of Sharia.
Not saying Sharia laws is completely flawed. Large numbers of Moslems themselves who regularly seek refuge in Judeo-Christian enclaves is perhaps an indication a review of these laws are needed.
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sha / July 27, 2013
Now look man. this is Sri Lanka. A sinhala Buddhist country. U talk about shariya in Sri Lanka. IF you can t live uneder General law in Sri Lanka, Get lost. We dont bother what shariya is.. and we dont even wanna know.
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K.A Sumanasekera / July 27, 2013
TNA wants,Police Powers, and Land rights once they gain control of the Northern Province.
And the CM in waiting has learly emphasized it in his many high profile interviews.
His handlers and powerful and influential spporters both local and overseas have infact already started to lobby their Western mates in this regard.
Evidently there are certain Laws in Jaffna already in existance. which prohibit non Tamils purchasing Land there.
Muslims who are already neck in neck in numbers for the title of the biggest minority,will be entitled to the same Police and Land Rights, once they get their own patch.
If they want to adopt aspects of Sharia Law to help protect their customs,their culture and their way of life in their homeland,as the Tamil Homeland advocates emphasize., it shouldn’t be a problem.
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Lanka Liar / July 27, 2013
In Lankastan it is Sharia all they way. Be patient no need of police or no police. TNA wants police powers because Sri Lankan police rapes loots kidnaps and does everything that is criminal. Stop all that they will stick with Sri Lankan police.
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Ranmal de Mel / July 27, 2013
The fundamental problem with any law based on religious dictates alone is that it discriminates against those who do not belong to that particular belief system, especially if the separate belief systems advocate exact opposite dogma. A good example is the tooth for a tooth and an eye for an eye as demanded by one belief system which incorporates capital punishment, and the sanctity of all life as a cardinal precept of another.
Secondly all laws based on religion alone are static and set in granite. These laws reflect the human and social conditions existing at a point in time in the far distant past, by and large obsolete in today’s context.This is why most laws established on a secular basis, on the underlying principle of natural justice is to be prefered, in modern multi religious nations.
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reviewcric / July 27, 2013
The problem with sharia law is despite its very practical an eye for an eye policy. It is a law that progresses a failed state. One example? How about SAUDI ARABIA- A FAILED STATE WITH A LOT OF MONEY. Despite the nation having one of the most religious places of worship, look at the people there. SLAVE LABOUR is STILL RAMPANT, MAIDS are treated LIKE DOGS and what kind of LAW progresses on BLOOD MONEY?
There is no due process in Nations with sharia, even kings sons who have got caught doing wrong, such as sexual misconduct are not chopped simply because of the politics and contact they have there. What kind of law is this? Gods law? I beg to differ. Seems very human to me.
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AYMAN / July 27, 2013
BULL SHIT.
SAUDI ARABIA FAILED STATE EH!!!
WHAT DO YOU CALL SRI LANKA.
KING FAISAL WAS KILLED BY HIS NEPHEW AND HE WAS NOT SPARED LIKE THE
RAJAPAKSE REGIME. THAT IS SHARIAH IN PRACTICE
On March 25, 1975, Faisal was shot point blank and killed by his half brother’s son Faisal bin Musa’id, who had just come back from the United States. The murder occurred at a majlis, (Arabic for “sitting”) an event where the king or leader opens up his residence to the citizens to enter and petition the king.
Prince Faisal Bin Musa’id was captured directly after the attack and declared officially insane. He was later found guilty of regicide and in June 1975 he was beheaded in the public square in Riyadh.
SO THIS SHARIAH IN PRACTICE !!
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abey / September 15, 2013
Prince Faisal Bin Musa’id was captured directly after the attack and declared officially insane. Insane means a psychological sickness. Civilized people never punish sick people.
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Karunathilaka / July 27, 2013
Dear Tyrone
Once we quote from another religion it should be understood in full contest, As what I understood about islam is some think different, bcz islam is not introduced as a religion it’s a way of life which guides not only for worship, to live, to rule, to earn, to study, to spend….almost all part of life…islam introduces several ways to wipe out the poverty in a community;
1. Spending for family members.
2. Spending for nabours.
3. Spending for the one who is asking
4. Spending for the one who seems poor but not asking
5. Spending for the begging people
6. Spending for the people those who are not muslims / non believers in islam
7. Spending for common goals like road, water supply….etc
8. Giving charity of the earning of a wealthy man if his saving exceeds somewhat 5Lks for an entire year (Excluding his basic needs like house, food…etc – Called ZAKATH, 2.5% )
And…etc
These all are considered as a worship in islam same like they are going to mosque, once islamic ruling is in place, it’s the responsibility of the government to promote and motivate about paying of above among muslims, in some waste case scenario the number 8- Zakath has to be pulled out from wealthiest if they entitled and still refused to pay.
Because once you go in details about islamic ruling it’s the responsibility of the government to take care of the infra structure, abandon people…..etc
So for, non muslims they have to pay only Jizya which is much leaser than even Zakath, they will not be asked to pay any of the above and which is also only from the wealthiest people, we could say like income tax…this what I understood from jizya, and the other part has to be understood in light of history,
In principle what I understood, we have to study well before commenting about other faiths, there are so many ways to study any religion for guidance if there is any…….
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Tyrone / July 27, 2013
Dear Karunathilaka (or Muslim)
You dont know what Jizya means, There rule is if lets say if Muslim become 50% in SL and Sharia Law is implemented in SL, they will fight till all become 100% Muslim, it is written in HADITH (Muhammed’s Traditions), thats what happening now in Indonesia / Malaysia / Nigeria
HADITH Examples(This is done by their Prophet only, not anyone else):-
Sunan Abu-Dawud
Book 19, Number 3031 states that Muhammad captured Ukaydir, the Christian prince of Dumah, and spared his life and made peace with him on the condition that he paid jizya
Sahih Muslim
Book 19, Number 4294 states that Muhammad commanded his military leaders to demand jizya from non-Muslims if they refused to accept Islam, and to fight them if they refused to pay
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Karunathilaka / August 3, 2013
Mr. Tyrone
I studied again about your comments, once islamic state is in power.
It’s the responsibility of the state to make sure security, safety, infrastructure, well being of entire sub rulers of the area under the control of estate including those who not accept the islam…
In return they have to pay Jizya which is much lower than that, of their own tax – zakath, and simultaneously muslims have to pay much more compare to nonmuslims for the state as i mentioned previous comment.
And your following comment is nonsense, it’s same like I saw one respectable monk says in Kandy BBS rally “the muslim quran says to spit into the food once it cooked for nonmuslims”…much better to be educated …. Don’t spread false and lies…
“There rule is if lets say if Muslim become 50% in SL and Sharia Law is implemented in SL, they will fight till all become 100% Muslim, it is written in HADITH (Muhammed’s Traditions), thats what happening now in Indonesia / Malaysia / Nigeria”
There are so many sorces if you want to study any religion without a bias agenda….
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AYMAN / July 27, 2013
MR. KARUNATHILAKE;
YOUR ADVICE AND COMMENTS APPRECIATED
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BEN CASSIM / July 27, 2013
Thank you CT & Umma Hanna , very well written article , appreciate it,
May God reward you …
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AYMAN / July 27, 2013
UMM HANNA,
CAN WE HAVE YOUR C.V TO PONTIFICATE ON SHARIAH
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Deepika / July 27, 2013
Good article but you should get it checked and edited by someone with better writing skills than yourself. Please take this advice seriously as it can otherwise undermine your message and effort!
If you had written better, perhaps some of these jokers would have actually understood your message!
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Tyrone / July 27, 2013
To anyone,
Please explain to me on CAPITAL PUNISHMENT in SHARIA LAW,
A Muslim may be sentenced to death under Shariah, Islamic law, for the murder of a Muslim, adultery, apostasy (deserting Islam), etc
A dhimmi (zimmi, non-Muslim living in an Islamic state) can be executed for sex with a Muslim woman, and “persecution” of Islam, for example blasphemy against Allah or Prophet Muhammad, or attempting to proselytise i.e. convert a Muslim from his religion.
HADITH
Sahih Muslim Book 16, Chapter 6, Number 4152
The Prophet said: “It is not permissible to take the life of a Muslim except in one of the three cases: the married adulterer, a life for a life (if the person is Muslim), and the deserter of Islam.”
In Islamic State (Sharia Law), Why do you encourage / allow / force Non-Muslim to convert to Muslim and if Muslim convert to another Religion why Capital Punishment ???
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Alan / July 28, 2013
Tyrone,
Why should you worry? you don’t have any problem in Sri lanka. You can rape and kill any woman you will be given 1-2 year jail sentence that also by bail you can go home. If you have political influence you are free from the sentence- that is call buddhist law. Because in sri lanka state laws are dead and democracy is corrupted since monks hegemony have been started.
So, tyrone …go and rape any women…….go and kill any human being. you are fully free from the sentence.
The democracy is adopted version of islamic political ruling system…..
The Democracy is failure everywhere………
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Dino / July 28, 2013
Democracy is Failure… You are talking all these because of this Democracy… Go and say something like this in Saudi Arabia, you will come back with your Head separate and Body separate like what happend to poor gal ‘Rizana Nafeek’,
I would live in a Democracy than live under the Slaves of Fascist Ideology from 6th Century BC !!!
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Alan / August 10, 2013
Dino,
Currently i have been living in Saudi Arabia. I don’t have any problem here as far as i don’t do any crimes. But in SL it is very Dangerous than Saudi arabia. People are being killed for no valid reason. just see the media how many murders happening in a day. It is called your Democracy?
Good example recently happened Weliveriya incident……..Is it call your fucking democracy?
3 students have been killed for no reason!!!!!!!
There are many Sri Lankan Buddhist live here for last 25-30 years for money and wealth life. If saudi Arabia is a dangerous place to live why they live here for last 30 years???
Rizana Nafik’s problem is our corrupted Democratic country which has issued fake passport and the Embassy was not able to justify and proof the things.
Then why are you sending your mothers and sisters here to work saudi arabia as slaves???????
Just read the comments of Shezard top…….Hope you will understand it.
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abey / September 15, 2013
No Tyrone, Let Muslims to implement Sharia Law in Sri Lanka. Then we can apply Sharia Law on Muslims & the existing Western Law can apply only for “Infidels” of this country.Then we can eradicate completely smuggling Heroin & other illegal activities done by Muslims giving them death penalty.
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Ahfzll / July 27, 2013
O! ye people …………
Think practically without the prejudice and bias …….
None of us had a choice as to under what circumstances each was born into ………….
Country / Religion / Caste / Creed / Stability / Status / Finances
So each of us was inculcated into the bias and prejudices by the upbringing, the next generation following the first, etc.
The current situation in Sri Lanka is untenable with poly-tricks and corruption; most of the people (not a part of the current politics and corruption) are awaiting change.
If the universal SHARIAH law is used as a guide……. subjected to STRICT ENFORCEMENT to the actions of the Members of Parliament – for starters; PUNISHMENT for the wrong doers as prescribed by the SHARIAH;
The poly-tricks and corruption that goes on in SRI LANKA will be neutralized within the year.
To all those who want the last word in forums like this – If punishment is meted out in strict accordance to the SHARIAH with respect to our parliamentarians – not withstanding the polygamy allowed by the SHARIAH – We may not have a single member of parliament remaining.
What do you say SRI LANKANS in the untenable crisis that we face today – we have an universally accepted guide to follow – Shall we put it to test – the results of which will prove the efficacy of the SHARIAH.
The ONLY people who will react adversely to this suggestions are the people directly or indirectly responsible (for FEAR or FAVOUR) with the corruption that is tendered by Parliament.
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BEN CASSIM / July 27, 2013
@Jamal – I honestly feel ,you should ignore these nuts with pronouncing the the word Peace be to you,don’t waste your God given blessing of knowledge with such people who are really sick in their hearts, these are the people, like those days of Moses and Jesus ,such great Prophets with all the Miracle could not cure this sickness of the hearts of the wicked can you and I ?
So discuss and explain only with people who’s questioning is free from subterfuge and have a wise judgment , if you continue to reply these wicked at heart & sick people you will loose all merits(God forbid), May Allah swt bless you & reward your good deeds.
Quote: Al_Quran,
al-Furqan Chapter :25: Verse :63
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The servants of the Merciful are those who walk the earth in humility, and when the ignorant address them, they say, ‘Peace.’
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BEN CASSIM / July 27, 2013
@Jamal-And refrain from trying to explain on Sharia unless you are Qualified on the Subject of Islamic jurisprudence ,if you are not then you are not obliged to answer any of these people, there will always be the wicked among all people every where with a sickness in their hearts, & refraining from such wain talks with the ignorant is more meritable let them say what they want, unless they are on unlimited band with ,its their loss , not yours …
——— IGNORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jm Hardy / July 27, 2013
It shoots me to deep thought raising my eyebrow .
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BEN CASSIM / July 27, 2013
A Better Life – Singapore multicultural roar!!!!!!!!!
Pls take time & watch the Clip.. Why can’t we ????????
http://youtu.be/nfyRfACfAZo
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BEN CASSIM / July 27, 2013
One United People-please watch..
http://youtu.be/0jaHpYrsuP4
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BEN CASSIM / July 27, 2013
Sri Lankans Last Chance -make it – Or. screw it up for good -The Choice is all Yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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BEN CASSIM / July 27, 2013
From Daily Mirror..
———————
Must watch..
http://youtu.be/CNpeHrgudwQ
Former Malaysian Prime Minister Dr. Mahathir Mohamad
on Sri -Lanka
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BEN CASSIM / July 27, 2013
Sri Lanka should not depend on loans, says Mahathir
adaderana
http://youtu.be/InzEKecCON4
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BEN CASSIM / July 27, 2013
Thank u CT for approving the Clips ,appreciate it..
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jaye / July 27, 2013
You require four adult witnesses in Sharia to prove rape and also blame the victim.Is it justice.How can you have four adult witnesses to prove that you were raped.Isn’t Sharia biassed against women and encouragges rape
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Alan / July 28, 2013
Jaye,
You understood wrongly…..
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Dino / July 28, 2013
RADICAL ISLAM DOCUMENTARY – MUST WATCH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AediQLpoGGM
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Alan / August 10, 2013
Dino,
Do you believe that the Twin tower in USA attacked by Osama Binladen?????
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justice / July 28, 2013
Is stoning a woman to death for adultery,but letting the man go free,a part of Sharia Law?
A woman requires four witnesses to prove rape.
A man can divorce his wife by reciting a “phrase” four times,facing Mecca, but a woman can never divorce the husband.
Rich men can marry four wives.
A thief has his hand cut off.
Are all this,Sharia Law?
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Muliyawaikkal / July 28, 2013
Look at the Ramadan Bombathon 2013 Scorecard on day 20.
Suicide bomb attacks – 19
Other terror attacks – over 100
Dead bodies – 934
Injured – 1850
Thank g~d most casualties are within their own community. :)
Blame the Jews and now Buddhists (earlier the Crusaders and Shiv Sena) for it!
Doesn’t matter who they blame as long as most casualties are themselves!
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Jasica David / July 28, 2013
I asked one of my Muslim friends, why cannot Allah save the Muslims in Myanmar?. He said, they are not very religious so Allah decided to punish them.
In that case, I asked, so it is Allah wish ? He said yes indeed. Allah is the matter of all.
Then I asked several questions.
If it is Allah’s wish why do other Muslim countries shout against what is going on in Myanmar? so those Muslims are shouting against Allah’s wish ?
And what sort of a God is Allah to kill those who don’t pray him properly?
And my other question was,
What about other religious, they have no faith in Allah, so Allah can kill them ?
Answering this question, he said, it is our duty to make them believe in Allah, if they don’t, we have to kill them for their own benefit. That is what Allah wants.
Second and the third question remained unanswered and my Muslim friend wanted to quit the discussion saying “ Allah is divine”
Well, it is up to you to answer those questions.
1) even among Muslims, More religious Muslims kill / torcher less religious Muslims
2) When Muslims are the majority, or when they have power, they simply force others to be Muslims or if not kill them saying “it is for the benefit of those who don’t believe in Allah”
3) Islam has neither logic nor any base. It contradicts with what it says.
4) To cover up things that they can’t answer Muslims say “it is God’s will and it should not be questioned”
Islam is the Devils religion. Those who get caught in it become part of devil and start speeding the disease to others.
The world needs a clean-up now, before it is too late. Research deep, and you will find out why Myanmar people had to act against Islamic cancer in Myanmar.
The need for Myanmar like mechanism to deal with Islam.
Islam however, whoever says what, Is a barbaric religion. The religion asks to kill those who do not believe in Islam. The justification is, “it is better to kill them than let them live with no faith on Allah” so killing infidels is this justified as “for the betterment of infidels”
E.g : Quran
2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.
2:193 And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.
2:216 Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.
2:244 Fight in the way of Allah, and know that Allah is Hearer, Knower.
5:33 The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom.
In Islam, everything is governed under Quran. Children are taught only Islam, but not even a word about other religions. They are taught and trained to act as killing machines and spread Islam. This is the reason why Islam is very aggressive and Islam itself is terrorism.
When the majority of a country is Islam, they impose Sharia. They justify it as the “divine law of God”. Non-Muslims also need to adhere to sharia, or be punished under sharia. Non-Muslims are not given jobs/education or other opportunities. There will be taxes on non-Muslims, just because they are non-Muslims. E.g. Indonesia, Malaysia
See “Jizya” : e.g : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya
Why non-Muslims should pay Jizya : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6g9ohG-784
Muslims migrate to Non-Muslim country and slowly (yet steadily) grow their numbers. They act very innocent and get all the benefits under the majority. Most of the other civilised religions do not depress other religions. And Islam grows with no threat from the existing principle religion ( Buddhism or Christianity) once they grow the numbers, then ask for sharia and special laws. And when they can, they take the power of the country and make it a Muslim country. No democracy , no mercy for minorities there onwards. Non-Muslims are depressed and killed.
See why terrorism is allowed in Islam: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Why_Terrorism_is_Allowed_in_Islam
It is rather apparent the reference to “satin” in Christianity and reference to “mara” in Buddhism must be referred to the same, that is Islam and its God Allah. According to Christianity and to Buddhism, there is a dooms day; where e the world destroys, when people are sinners. It must be referred to a situation where Islam conquers the world. Or rather “satin” or “mara” conquer the world. Then the glory of the world is gone. And world get destroyed itself.
So via democracy, kindness the world simply cannot deal with Islam. Islam is such that It is like a cancer. By loving the cancer or by been nice to cancer, you can’t get rid from that. You need to treat the cancer in such a way to get rid from that.
The mechanism in Myanmar, is thus rather justified. Since they understood that Islam is growing and soon, they will be slaves under Islam hypocrisy and depression. A problem which cannot be addressed democratically or with a human feelings. Look, what happened in all Buddhist countries, in all peaceful countries. Islam enters and they simply destroy it. E.g. Sri Lankan, India, Maldives, Bangladesh etc etc.
The American Approach is better, but is in macro level. Mass scale Muslim depression. While America treats the would cancer like that, small nations like Myanmar or Sri Lanka need to act in a grass root level to get rid form the world cancer.
Sri Lankans, if they need to be safe, have to think about Something like in Myanmar, before it is too late. I think Sri Lankan Buddhist are ( or they used to be ) too good and too innocent. Bodu Bala Sena is doing a marvellous duty by making it clear to Sinhalese. Let’s hope the Glory of the world will remain longer, with No Islam Hypocrisy
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Nabil / August 3, 2013
I have two quotes for a blatantly racist like you
““To belittle, you have to be little.”
— Khalil Gibran ( he is a Christian and Lebanese BTW)
If you have to make a law that hurts a number of people ,
just to prove your morals or faith ,
then you hav no true morals or faith to prove (Unknown)
What you are endorsing is the codification and legalization of your hatred. Luckily and thanks to CT people like you can be smoked out and your puerile ideas put to ridicule! If not you would continue to live in your make believe world with your racism! If you are not a coward I challenge you to come out in the open and say this using your true identity!
Despite the cloak of anonymity behind an assumed name, you amply demonstrate your lack of breeding and class. Here’s why; you fail to see how diabolical you sound- with the kind of hatred you spew against Muslims, you still have the gall to call a Muslim your friend? On top of that do you expect sensible readers not to see through your effort at imputing the words an imaginary Muslim friend to condemn Islam and Muslims? What kind of low life are you if you use the idea “friendship”to enlarge your theme of debasing and spreading hatred?
Incredulous as it is, how do you believe world events are somehow linked to the causes and effects of faith and religiousness of one faith? If so may I ask you why irrespective of what you pray for, events take their own course? Like Uttrakand, Buddagaya? the Tsunami?
Spirituality and religiousness have nothing to do with man’s inhumanity on man. What religion does say is that you shall be held accountable.
What Muslims believe is that nothing happens without god’s knowledge. That the depth of our faith is tested both in adversity as well as in prosperity. What is expected of Muslims is to hold steadfast unto the faith.
Your arguments are that of an imbecile bent of spreading hatred and I am sure intelligent readers would not waste time considering the points raised by you.
A low life form like you should be lucky that CT allows all kinds of debate, even blatantly racist ideas and even ones a low as yours. And I am thankful to CT for giving me the opportunity to rubbish you! :) :) :)
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AYMAN / August 7, 2013
STOP ASKING YOUR FRIENDS AND READ THE QURAN.
WELL TRY A MYANMAR AND SEE WHAT YOU WILL GET IN RETURN.
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