23 October, 2019

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Sri Lanka’s Greatest Statesman – SJV Chelvanayakam

By S. Ratnajeevan H. Hoole

Prof. S. Ratnajeevan H. Hoole

The Thanthai Chelva Memorial Auditorium

On July 1 saw the grand opening of a 1,100-seat memorial conference hall dedicated to SJV, Samuel James Velupillai Chelvanayakam, whom many Tamils fondly venerate for his leadership, foresight and honest dedication. The hall exudes never-seen-before practical grandeur in Jaffna – tall roof, well-lit, with generous windows letting in fresh air. The basement houses memorabilia from that glorious era of enlightened Tamil leadership.

The hall had been built through a foundation established by SJV’s third son Raveendran in Altadena, CA who was represented by my cousin Nandakumar Navaratnam and his wife Jega who works for Raveendran. There was graceful, faultless dancing by girls who, it was announced, are disabled.   Other dances had girls bouncing about in ebullient happiness. Remarkable was a play, acted out by Jaffna Central College (JCC) boys, from the Ramayanam – I think set in the Ramayanam but newly and innovatively written. The theme was Ravanan killing his brother-in-law following which his sister seeks revenge by trying to marry Raman. As serious as it was hilarious, the play raised questions about whether today’s Tamil Asurar are on the side of the ancient Asurar, or Raman and the Aryans, whether Raman really was monogamous, etc.

The Kolam of Rice Flour at the entrance captured SJV’s image well.

Kolam – Coloured Flour Art Captures SJV’s True Likeness

SJV – His Christian Roots

SJV and his lieutenant EMV Naganathan (Hensman) were of a bygone era. Christians then were readily and repeatedly endorsed by the Tamil electorate despite election campaigns by those such as Ponnambalam Ramanathan’s son-in-law Nadesan’s slogan”Kurusa Vela?” ( “Jesus’ Cross or Muruha’s Spear?”)

I take great personal pride in SJV, whose niece, Samathanam Muththaiyah of Alaveddy married my mother’s brother Peter Somasundaram, FP MMC from Chundikuli. Also, around 1824, my great-great-great grandfather was the Assistant Priest, Cyrus Kingsbury, at the Tellipalai America Ceylon Mission (today’s Church of South India and distinct from today’s breakaway ACM). That parish was SJV’s home-church. 

SJV’s deep Christian faith is to be seen from what older folk know about him. His fastidious observance of the Decalogue is widely known from his refusing to accept Holy Ash when offered it. I know two less known things about him. When travelling first class in the bunk berth of the Ceylon Government Railways, he would kneel even though a stranger might be his bunk mate, and say his evening prayers (Vespers). Second, in the year of his death, he was giving away his books and gave my wife his copy of Imitation of Christ, a book usually read by Christian mystics. It had his daughter’s name Susila on it and my wife says she benefited immensely from reading it. 

Prof. A.J. Wilson, D.Sc. Lond., Susila’s husband, has said that SJV was a Christian by religion and Hindu by culture. It is something that might be said of any Tamil Christian but has been misinterpreted by seeing a contradiction in that by writing, using the word “although,” as in the Wikipedia: “Although he was a Christian..,” etc. as if to suggest that a Christian cannot continue Hindu customs – like wearing a verti – as SJV did.

Siting of the Hall

SJV was educated at the Tellipalai Mission of the ACM, and then at St. John’s and St. Thomas’, the Low Church (Protestant) and High Church (Catholic) wings, respectively, of the Anglicans that live together in one Anglican Church. We were wondering how his memorial hall is situated at the Methodists’ now-nationalized JCC. Well, it is not on JCC land; but rather sited on a plot in the middle of JCC once owned by Justice H.W. Thambiah and passed on to 12 heirs. The SJV Memorial Trust eventually bought the land. After deciding against donating the hall to JCC, thinking it unwise to give it to the government, it is run as a public charity to advance the values of nonviolence that SJV stood for.

Does the SJV Heritage Continue?

Appropriately SJV’s successor Hon. R. Sampanthan, was the Chief Guest. Apostle of Nonviolence, Sarvodaya’s Dr. A.T. Ariaratne, was the guest of honour. The latter took ill but sent a representative to read his message.

It is widely recognized that SJV, perhaps uniquely among our politicians, was free of any corruption, whether financial or sexual. When opportunity came at last to join the cabinet in 1965, he let his trusted and honest colleague M. Tiruchelvam take the Federal Party’s (FP’s) seat in cabinet. In contrast, almost every minister today has accumulated inexplicable fortunes.

Peace Talks as a Tool of Oppression?

At speech-time, the Rev. Galkande Dhammananda Thero of Walpola Rahula Institute and Kelaniya University delivered a gracious address promoting reconciliation. 

However, in the country, it has come to the point where peaceniks lull us, making us lambs readied for slaughter. The past three years have been a journey where Tamils collaborated, while the government took away the little we have left, like our lands and temples. 

That day, July 1, was a couple of days after Mavai Senathirajah had been resoundingly re-elected at the FP’s annual convention as party leader, and Sampanthan as TNA Leader. 

Hon. Sampanthan in his key-note address echoed positive sentiments of SJV and bemoaned the fact that Tamils have been cheated for so many years and have been cheated once again during the recent negotiations. He explained, the then government said the Tigers were a terrorist group and promised to destroy them and give a solution. The International Community including India on that basis agreed to help Sri Lanka. But now after they helped destroy the Tigers, no settlement has been given to us. Sampanthan asserted that other countries including India [sic.] had destroyed the LTTE and have an obligation to find a solution to our problems, but have failed to do so. He said that the recent peace talks could have delivered such a solution paving the way for all communities to live together but the international community failed in this by not exerting the necessary push. It has come to the point, he said, where the youth may think once again about taking to arms. He quoted SJV who famously said, “Only God can save us.” 

Shri S. Balachandran, Indian Consul, quietly listened.

Awakening Old Ghosts

The previous week President Maithripala Sirisena speaking on his drugs theme had alleged that the Tigers raised funds through the drugs trade and thereby awakened old ghosts. Other TNA MPs defended the Tigers saying that it is untrue and that they met their financial needs from other countries and displaced Tamils abroad. 

While the Tiger apologists’ position might be somewhat true, there are well known instances of Tiger fund raisers being jailed in France and Canada for dealing in drugs. They say these are Tiger operatives who went rogue. However, I have seen a responsible newscast where Tigers tried to break their jailed colleagues out of their cells in Canada. 

The Washington Post reported how when Israel wanted to sell Uzi Machine guns to the drugs cartels, to keep their hands clean, Tiger intermediaries were paid to ship the arms and transfer them to the cartels off South America. 

As the preceding week saw emotions rising with the President’s interjection, Mavai Senathirajah claimed that the Tigers had instilled some order in society. We all know that houses were taken over by Tiger big-wigs for their personal use, and that owners who will see no order in their houses being nationalized. Worse would be Neelan Tiruchelvam’s family (including me) who see no order in the killings of those who did not agree with the Tigers. A Trincomalee refugee near my home in Nallur was shot as a prostitute for selling string-hoppers to the Sri Lankan Army. I saw no order in that, and an insult to Trincomalee culture to point to her blue plastic ear-studs to prove she was a prostitute Good caste women wear gold. Mavai Senathirajah at one point during the party convention got emotional and said that unless there is a solution to Tamil problems in the next three months, to translate him directly, “war will burst.”

Time for Peace and Reflection

When we should speak of delivering on the promises of 2015, we are losing sight of the context of war, and trade in inflammatory speeches. The unnecessary white-washing of the Tigers threatens and does violence to the SJV legacy of nonviolence. The Tigers are gone and there is no point in criticizing them or defending them. We must tend to the living and let the dead bury the dead. That tending requires punishing war crimes so the living feel safe.

Mr. Sampanthan, in particular, was on the hit list of the Tigers for years, living in terror and in hiding. He risked his everything, persuading the community to renounce the Tiger heritage to give peace talks a chance at the end of the war. Going by the clear electoral endorsement, the community was fully behind him. He delivered his side of the 2015 bargain.  

The government must keep to its bargain. Alas! As the government reneged on its promises of 2015, saintly Sampanthan holds fast to his end. He has saved the government at every turn, even getting the bond-scam report suppressed by asking for a translation. And the government?

Kiss of Peace Rejected

In response to Sampanthan’s peace overtures, the Sinhalese polity has gone berserk. One of the highest prelates of the Buddhist establishment says Muslim shops should be boycotted and Muslims stoned. Nothing happens to him but liberal writers, like Kusal Perera, are threatened using hate-speech laws. It seems apparent by now that a Muslim doctor has faced false allegations of performing sterilizations on Sinhalese women. Gnanasara Thero has been pardoned and let loose after conviction, and he openly threatens havoc. On the other hand, numerous Tamil suspects whose time in incarceration exceeds a life sentence, remain incarcerated without trial, let alone conviction.

I cannot blame the extremism of Tamil leaders’ nostalgia for the LTTE days. Mr. Sampanthan will have difficulties cracking the whip on them when his partnership with the government in good faith has been betrayed and he is frustrated by the government in the one-way street where he gives but is not allowed to bring anything to his people, let alone safety from war criminals. 

Unless Mr. Sampanthan has something to show, peace will be more distant and Tamil grievance more severe. Sampanthan could exit politics and leave the field open to wild extremists. However, many Tamils would like him to stay on in politics and wisely steer the floundering Tamil ship to safety as he has always tried. It is in the interests of the Sinhalese establishment to rein in the extremists they hatched rather than to hide in fear of them.

The Gentle Spirit of Christ

Fitting, is it not that, Sampanthan personally declared open a hall that is for the purpose of advancing SJV’s nonviolence? Indeed. SJV, whose visage reflected the gentle spirit of Christ, was equally frustrated by the government’s racist intransigence. Sampanthan in his equanimity in the face of betrayal, is a fitting successor to SJV.

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    How does Mavai Senthiraja and Sumanthiran get alone ? I think it is the going to be the future combination. Need to see who will destroy Tamils, Is it Wigneswaran or Sambanthan.
    as Tamils want muslim friends, they need to build salience with the TAMILNADU JAMAITULLAH ORGANIZATION TNJ.

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      JD,
      Does your Toronto Toilets give you free wi fi ?

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      To all the ignorant Sinhala Modayas who cannot see beyond their nose.

      During the Dutch period, various Christian Missionaries (from America & Canada) had made the Tamil dominated Jaffna peninsula as the best location in all of Asia for English education in the 19th century. Many Vellalar families used this opportunity to educate their children and they provided the bulk of the British colonial civil servants in Sri Lanka and in British held Malaya (Malaysia and Singapore). The British colonial rulers preferred to employ English educated Jaffna Tamils not only in the Ceylon Civil Service but also in the Malaya civil service.

      That is the reason why SJV Chelvanayakam was born in Malaysia but to the Jaffna Tamil parents who were expatriates in Malaya employed in the Malaya civil service.

      Let me ask a simple question from all the Modayass who are calling SJV Chelvanayakam a Malaysian born illegal immigrant, if you are an expatriate in a foreign country (employed) and if your son born in the country where you live/work decides to settle in Sri Lanka, do you think your son is an illegal immigrant in Sri Lanka?

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        The Tamils had a considerable share in building up Malasiya and Sigapore. To day they are much above Srilanaka. Srilanak has gone to the dogs, sorry! to the pigs. And quite a number of Tamils were chased out of Srilanka and their contributions to-words the welfare of their host countries are immense. All at the expense of Srilanka ‘s Sinhala only and Buddhism’s prominent place.

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    Jeez … … It is a very discordant experience reading an account of a dignified leader who was very gentle, humble, and self-effacing … … marred by the writer’s very cheap, loud, and aggressive self-promotion. Just like listening to a punk rocker singing the Gregorian Chant.

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      Dear Ajay,

      Thank you for dignifying a sentiment I was hesitant to express!

      Best,

      Kumar R.

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      It appears that H.Hoole was keen on claiming his relationship with SJV via Grand Parents and Great parents etc rather than writing about SJV’S political leadership and his ‘failed’ efforts to achieve a Federal Constitution, which would have brought in peace and prosperity to Srilanka.

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    It’s so nice that you were able to have with you a monk as charming, honest, wise, and decent as Ven. Galkande Dhammananda. I wonder whether he spoke in Tamil or English.
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    Rest assured that he is one man who would say the same sort of thing whatever language he spoke in. Here he is, addressing Sinhalese listeners:
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVr17VcWQFk
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    It is a 29-minute video. He has a delightful way of speaking, but he pulls no punches. At 10 minutes 15 seconds you have him saying this:
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    “Politicians will be happy to see our population splintering into religious and racial factions, and attacking one another. Instead of being fearful of those whom we see as our antagonists we should see them as fellow sufferers.”
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    I have done a full, but imperfect translation of the speech. It runs into 1899 words. Would it serve any purpose giving readers the entire text – in about seven parts? Something like this could lead to effective trilingualism emerging without undue effort.
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      Yes it would Tamil people would really appreciate to hear the words of a true Bhikku who follows dhamma and lives by loving kindness.

      Colombo Telegraph should be able to post it right?

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      “…….he is one man who would say the same sort of thing whatever language he spoke in.”

      Thank God, most of our parliamentarians can speak only one language. Otherwise, think of the mischief and havoc they could and would create!

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        PART TWO
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        Focussing on one aspect of what happened, the Director of Foreign Investment has written that at that point, the Motorola Company had prepared to start a large project in Sri Lanka, when the engineer in charge of the Project, who happened to be a Tamil, was murdered. Motorola immediately moved their entire project to Malaysia. Some years later, when the Director of Foreign Investment (DFI) visited Malaysia, he found Motorola flourishing in Malaysia, with a workforce of 25,000 Malaysians. What the DFI has emphasised is that that the moving out of the Motorola Project is only one of a number of such project abandonments. The extent of the effects of these movings out and their fallouts are unknown and incalculable.
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        I recently visited Korea and met a number of our migrant workers who were gainfully employed there. They were worried about developments back home. I told them that had we not messed up affairs in 1983, there would have been no need for our people to be migrant workers, we could have developed advanced industries in Sri Lanka itself because that was a time when President Lee Kwan Yew promised Singaporeans that he would transform Singapore into a Sri Lanka. Korea was then thought of as a country of hovels. Skilled workers from elsewhere would by now be streaming into Sri Lanka had it not been for the mistakes of 1983. If events continue as they do in Sri Lanka, we could now emulate Ethiopia and Syria; it will become apparent only ten years from now.
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        Some may claim that what they are now doing is to protect the Buddha Dharma and Sinhalese culture. However, in actual fact, the effect of these actions will be to destroy these very values.

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      PART ONE
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      Dear Karan,
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      Explanation: This video was sent to me by Manel Fonseka, some of whose comments appear below. I have never met her. She is deaf, so I can’t telephone her. Amazingly all her writing is done on a Samsung J7 phone. After I had done half the translation carefully (always having a wider audience in view) we found that there are many more videos by Ven Dhammananda, some dubbed in Tamil. Then I began to summarise.
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      Let me give you this with all the faults. Your Sinhalese will not be zero, so the inaccuracies may be obvious. Exact translation is difficult. To avoid confusing the moderators I will put only a little on today. The rest on Wednesday – all in the same place. This text has been sent to Ven. Dhammananda.
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      SLVLOG presents an interview with Ven Galkande Dhammananda, the Head of the Walpola Rahula Institute, who is a Senior Lecturer in the University of Keleniya and the Head of the Department of History. This discussion by him is the result of our search to counter the appalling fall-out which has resulted from the horrendous bomb attacks on Easter Sunday 2019.
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      Questions are posed here by Dharshana Handungoda, and responded to by Ven Dhammananda”:
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      Handungoda: How can we come to terms with the past, present, and future of the situation that has arisen out of the events of Easter 2019?
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      Dhammananda: What could go wrong with our country now, as a result of these happenings can be best understood by comparing the present potential for chaos with what happened in July 1983.

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        PART THREE
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        Buddhism doesn’t encourage simplistic identification of single causes; instead, we must identify the complexity of adverse effects. In my anxiety I keep repeating that I am fearful for the future of your children (I have none myself). Our days are almost over. The real concerns are that there are no schools for your children; the schools lack competent teachers; there are no Institutions to train teachers; we have no credible system to care for our parents in their retirement. These are common problems that confront the Sinhalese, the Tamils, the Muslims, and the Christians. When we work towards solving these problems, then we will be building our Sri Lankan nation. When we begin to regard these as our problems, the politicians are unhappy. They thrive on causing dissension, on rousing uncontrollable passions.
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        One other factor I’d like to talk about in the context of the happenings on Easter Sunday. Countrywide there was disenchantment with all politicians. (7.08) Suddenly the burka was banned. People began to forget their quarrel with politicians. Instead they began to concentrate their energies on stripping off burkas. The burka is a real problem, but it is a quite different problem that ought not to have been brought to the fore at this moment. Certainly, let us have that discussion – later and separately.
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        Diverting the attention of the public to the issue of the burka has resulted in people forgetting that our main concern had been with the inaction of the politicians in dealing with the developing situation of which they had been given clear security warnings. There had been no connection between the bombings of Easter Sunday and the burka, but now we, the people, have allowed ourselves to forget that we were holding the politicians responsible for what happened.

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        PART FOUR
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        No longer are we chiding the politicians for failing to protect us, when they knew what was looming. Instead, we have begun to quarrel among ourselves, to hate one another. All have forgotten where the main problem lay. (time on video 08.07) We must now wake up to the reality around us, to realise that now is the time for us to unite as a population to find solutions.
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        It is often the case that we look for ways in which to counter the effects that we see, instead of examining the causes. (8.12) To effectively take action we must identify the reasons for something happening, and change those. In that way, we will effectively and permanently counter the manifestations of evil. The best example of this is the difference in the ways in which the King and the Buddha tackled the evil deeds of the assassin Angulimala. (8.52) The King was concerned with stopping the resulting deeds; the Buddha focussed on identifying the reasons, and thereby reforming Angulimala. So, Angulimala ends up becoming virtuous and being a useful member of society. Therefore, the challenge for us is to identify the causes and tackle those. If we look at what is happening today in this context, what we see are not intelligent actions stemming from long term concerns, but reactions arising from our fears. Let us take, as an example, the apprehensions that dictate the actions of the Sinhalese, of the fears propagated by those who provide them leadership, and perhaps the concerns of some bhikkus. Will we be destroyed? Will we be driven to extinction etc. Will we be bereft of our country? (9.52)

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        PART FIVE
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        Politicians will be happy to see our population splintering into religious and racial factions, and attacking one another. Instead of being fearful of those whom we see as our antagonists we should see them as fellow sufferers.
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        Let us consider a bhikku – a monk – who is sewing hatred among people. We can often spot in his face, his visage, that he is a sick man. Why did he come to be like this? It is possible that he too is a person who has suffered deprivation and injury.(10.15) He may have been deprived of his carefree childhood; his adolescence may have been distorted, he may hav the desire to shine, to achieve, to be a hero; but for these he sees little scope. Such a person could fall victim to the designs of a scheming politician. The challenge before us is to study the reasons for such a persons actions, understand his motivations, and treat him in such a way as not to exclude him, but to include him in our activities.
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        When we examine our history since independence, what we see is that there have been cycles of violence every seven years. In no other country can we see these episodes of serious blood-letting every seven years: 1948, 1956, 1958, 1971, 1983, 1981 to 2009, 1987, 1990. In all these periods there have been horrendous bloodbaths. (12 minutes out of 29.) Can we think of any other country where there have been such cycles of bloody violence?
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        Summary:

        Causes: By the end of Colonial rule, there was consciousness of different ethnic and religious groups. Sense of insecurity and competition.
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        The Sangha: Many problems with them. Child ordination. Dhammananda is not necessarily opposed to it, but it must form another area of discussion.

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        PART SIX
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        Child monks are deprived of normal healthy lives with parents and siblings – the little quarrels within a family – for the one piece of soap that is available etc. That level. Parental love.
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        Bhikkhus participants in JVP-inspired violence in both insurrections,
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        War against the LTTE: the Sangha was not a restraining force.
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        The Sangha, on the other hand, a targeted group, from Colonial times on. 1987 to 1990: seven hundred bhikkhus “were disappeared.” The LTTE targetted them. So, the Sangha too are a bruised lot. But they must also be the healers.
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        All of us bruised, yet all of us must also play healing roles.
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        Handungoda: (17.45): Society is splintering into religious groups
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        Dhammananda: This splintering is indeed dangerous. These benefit politicians representing all religious groups. It is deadly for all others. I was not around in 1956 when the pancha-maha -balavegaya got together. “Has anybody benefitted?”
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        Do we have education now? Are there doctors with whom there can be a frank and honest discussion of holistic health issues?
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        Politicians thrive. People of all ethnic and religious groups suffer. Young people are desperate to find employment in foreign climes. Marriages cannot be entered into at the optimum age. We’re on a road that leads to destruction for all. Only by all groups uniting can we be saved. This is not a time for playing games or amassing individual fortunes. (21 minutes) We must outlaw all extremism.
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        Religion is closer to the heart than to the intellect.

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        PART SEVEN
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        I do not know other religions perfectly. Buddhism is totally pacifist. No compromise on that is possible – stated unambiguously. It is ironic that some try to protect this most pacifist religion through violence. There’s no way such an attempt can be condoned. What we now see is “Dracula Media”. They are bloodthirsty. Instead of pushing individuals towards violence the media must convert those prone to violence back to pacifism.
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        There was a doctor in Borella whose house was burnt down. He had two innocent sons who were students of D.S. Senanayake Vidyalaya. Husband, wife and sons had to go first into a refugee camp, and then were transported to Jaffna in cargo ships. Many years later, these two boys, who had been so innocent, perished as Sea Tigers. Whom then must we blame for transforming these boys into militants?
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        24.17) Handungoda: My last question: what are the prospects for the Presidential Elections?
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        Dhammananda: When I survey the political scene, I cannot identify any prospective candidate as suitable. The person whom we need is one who has overcome the desire to prioritise only the needs of his own race and religion. We have to seek a person who can transcend the requirements of his own group; one who has a vision for the future which encompasses all humanity. We need a Mandela; however, it has been proved over and over again that we can’t just manufacture a Mandela. Leading up to the Easter Sunday tragedy, all the leaders knew what was coming, but what they did was for each to look after his own self-interest and reputation. They cared nothing for the welfare of the community as a whole.

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        PART EIGHT
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        The leader we seek has to be one who doesn’t seek personal recognition and glory. He sacrifices his personal interest for the good of society as a whole. Mandela and Lee Kwan Yew were such persons. If you ask me if I can see such a person in Sri Lanka today, I have to state that I can see no such person. If indeed there is such a person, it is up to that person to present himself to us and prove himself.

        THE END

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        I’m sorry that one part got out of sequence. Also, Manel Fonseka was hoping that we could do something more with this wonderful material.
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        I’ve offered this up as what I am capable of doing. I hope others would think of other ways of countering the madness that is gripping the country, or that CT itself could use this. Buddhism is worthy of veneration, but I feel that Ven. Dhammananda has transcended divisions, and thinkers belonging to other traditions too, could add thinking on this or another site.
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        Another story about the same monk:

        http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2019/06/30/cruel-punishment-children-leads-violence-society-ven-galkande-dammananda-thera

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        And there were these articles that appeared in CT itself.
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        https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/ven-rahulas-sathyodaya-truth-awakening-may-the-buddha-sasana-glow/
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        https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/ven-rahulas-sathyodaya-let-truth-be-awakened-in-top-leaders-ceb-people/

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        Karan, we may all have our faults, but there is enough virtue in us to desire to defeat the forces apparently constituted of pure evil that appear to be swamping us.
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        Let us pool our resources.

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          Thank you for sharing this. It deserves a wider audience. Youtube has an option to add subtitles to videos. If you message the youtube channel they could add the subtitles quite easily.

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            Thank you, Karan.
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            Yes, absolutely. You appear to have thanked me. Thanks accepted, but we must only be the vehicles for transporting this.
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            The real thanks must go to Ven Galkande Dammananda Thera.
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            And the challenge is not to get all this into English – it is to put this into Tamil, so as to re-assure all Tamil-speaking people, be they Hindu or Muslim, that they have many friends here among the Sinhalese. Why don’t you start doing that there, in the Tamil speaking areas? It is important. For National Level Politics the minorities are important. But you must unite; lack of such unity of purpose is what far too many comments reveal.
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            Many Sinhalese? No, not many who are steadfast and can be relied upon. It’s always been like that in every society – those who have the courage to think, and thereafter speak out may not be many. Let’s say 10% at most. However, don’t imagine that the majority of Sinhalese are racists. Most are uneducated. Hard fact. We have literacy, without the ability to think.
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            At the end of the day, however, unless we find a way of effectively weaning away the substantial number of Gnanasara and Gotabaya away from their determination to violently suppress all dissent. Few Sinhalese will dare defy them.
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            Please help us; some of us, who have never dabbled in electoral politics, or will ever contest any election desperately want to put this country back on track.
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            I will have more to say.

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    BS! Racist Fascist bigot Chelvanayakam is the root cause for the conflict between Sinhalayo and Demala people.
    Chelvanayagam (whose was a member of the South Indian Church, born in Malaya, and whose grandparents are from the Malabar coast), said that Tamils have an “EXCLUSIVE” homeland in the North and East forgetting the fact that a large majority of Demalu in the North are the descendants of slaves brought from Malabar by Portuguese and Dutch. He started a project to distort the history of Sinhale to brainwash Demala people and depicted that Sinhalayo are the arch enemy of Demala people.

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      95% of the low caste slaves brought into the island from South India ,by the Portuguese and Dutch were settled in the Sinhalese south along the western and southern coasts , as slave labour in the huge industries and for service work, like fishing, tree climbing and many other menial work. Their descendants got Sinhalised and are the present day Sinhalese Karawa, Salagamma. Durawa, Hunu, Hali, Berewa and many other menial/low caste Sinhalese making up 50% of the present day so called Sinhalese. May by you are one , as most of these recently Sinhalised descendants of Indian Tamil immigrants both low and high born like the Kandyan Radala and upper Govigamma ( low country and Kandyan) are the biggest anti Tamils and supporters of the Aryan Sinhalese Buddhist myth . This to hide their recent Tamil South Indian immigrant origin. The homeless one, the father of the indigenous Sinhalese Buddhist Aryan comedy and the founder of Sinhalese racism, belonged to this category. He belonged to low south Indian slave origin Salagma(cinnamon peelers) or Durawa ( tree climbers) community and was a Catholic by birth gay (nothing wring with this) but preached racism and invented the Sinhalese Aryan myth to the foolish Sinhalese . The Dutch settled a few thousand south Indian salve labour in the north to work as indentured slaves to the Vellalar landlords in their huge tobacco estates. These people were ultimately assimilated into the Nalvar ( tree climbers) caste. Stop spreading lies. It is because of these low caste South Indian( largely Tamil ) slave labour imports , who ultimately took on a Sinhalese identity , that the Sinhalese became a huge majority in the island. Their population double within a century or two.

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        sorry slave labour in the huge cinnamon and other spice estates and not industries

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        What do you want?

        Soma

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          SSS wants us to forget that he is a serial plagiariser who got caught red handed this week.

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            We all plagiarise and this includes you . Is this a crime? Sinhalese racists like you and Muslims don’t like him and constantly attack hi, as he states a lot of home truths. Plagiarised or otherwise. We are not sitting here for an exam but posting comments and observations and most of it is plagiarised and not original

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              Rajan you and SSS make a fine pair. Ask Mangy for advice on how to do it. No plagiarism see?

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        All the bigotry apart, who are the Hali? Not an offensive term to refer to a caste listed earlier?
        When did the Portuguese bring in labour, and for what purpose?
        Ever wondered why people did not want to be Tamil?

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          Mr Siva Sankaran Sharma
          SJ’s question “Ever wondered why people did not want to be Tamil? is an interesting question. This was a time when the Sinhalese had lost their clout under the colonials and Tamils were the favoured boys.
          Why Estate Tamils refused to go back to the motherland but preferred to continue that pathetic, slavish life under the Sinhala rule is another related question. To this day nothing terrifies a Tamil (who has already lived among the Sinhalese) than the possibility of living in a Tamil only enclave – on this column I am vilified as a racist for suggesting that all Tamils should be accommodated in one Homeland.

          Soma

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            Ever wondered why you are so bigoted brainless pathetic and cannot reason? Asking the same questions again and again despite the answers given to you many times.

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              Brainless, pathetic Shankar, what sort of answers you have given on Sri Lankan history? As a kallathoni, you may have answered the way you cross the palk strait braving the high seas to cross over to Sri Lanka to seek greener pastures

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            Moronic person , use commonsense when people migrate to a different land or area in a country that is not their homeland for good, they gradually assimilate, with the local population , as they know that they will never return. Most of you present day Sinhalese are these gradually assimilated South Indian( Tamil) invaders and immigrants who never returned. This is same in India and other parts of the world. When Malayali. Telugu, Kannda and North Indian immigrants permanently migrated to the Tamil lands a few centuries ago , they assimilated into the Tamil identity and when Tamils migrated to their lands the same thing happened No one forced them or they did want to be Tamil , North Indian, Telugu or whatever. In ancient of even now times when Germans , French . Italians and other Europeans migrated to Britain, USA, Australia or other Anglo Saxon lands permanently , within a generation or two they loose their language and identity and assimilate. So do many Sinhalese and Tamils . You mean to state all these people did not want to be German, French , Italian , Sinhalese or Tamil? Or these cultures are inferior? Do not ask stupid questions and use your brains. Just because some other idiot asked this stupid question you do not have to repeat it. Unlike the Indian Tamil invaders and immigrants, Sri Lankan Tamils never assimilated into the Sinhalese identity, as they did not have to, as they lived in their own lands in the north, east and north west coast and ruled themselves until European colonisation. Now after independence the Sinhalese are trying to use fake history and government resources and force to forcibly assimilate them into the Sinhalese identity. They have been successful along the north west coast . The previous assimilations were gradual and voluntary .

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              Therefore, pure Tamil as you depict hardly 10% percent are also can change to Sinhalese identity, if your pathetic, brainless argument is acceptable.
              Tamils from tamilnadu brought here to work as slaves in tea and tobacco lands can go back to their original place.

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            somass

            “SJ’s question “Ever wondered why people did not want to be Tamil? is an interesting question.”

            I too wondered for a long time.
            It is not only interesting but historically important too.

            In your ancestor’s case why did they convert to Buddhism and adapted Sinhala as mother tongue.
            Those who came from certain part of Tamil Nadu naturally longed to have equality and parity with the rest of the people. Therefore in recent years they thought converting to Sinhala/Buddhism is the only way they could have more opportunities, political power and social acceptance.

            Hope your family has achieved everything the members aspired some hundred years ago, and become overzealous oppressing Sinhala/Buddhist fascist.
            You see now the wheels have turned, those Tamils have become somebody they never thought they would be.
            Congratulations.

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              S.S.S., Rohan and N.V.
              I never argue over history or genetics. I start from Sampanthan’s explicit statement that ” Tamil Nation in Sri Lanka must be recognised as a ‘distinct ethnic entity’ (his words) which runs counter to your theory that Sinhalese are low caste Tamils which is fine for me. Now Tamil political class is manipulating permutations and combinations of Tamil Nation, Tamils, Tamil speaking people, Indigenous Tamils, Ealam Tamils, Eazam Tamils , what not leaving us totally baffled as we find that Tamil speaking people are scattered all over and a political solution is sought for whom. As for me Tamil Nation is ‘ all Tamil speaking people irrespective of their religion, caste or the date of arrival’. In view of their distribution across the island no Einstein can devise a political solution that can satisfy a minimum of 50% of them.

              Soma
              (I have no quarrel over your theory that Sinhalese are low caste Tamils. Now we can live in one country, can’t we?)

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                somass

                “(I have no quarrel over your theory that Sinhalese are low caste Tamils. Now we can live in one country, can’t we?)”

                If that is the case what are you going to do with your Radala, Govi, Karava, …….. , Vellala, Koviyar, Karaiyar, …… ?
                By the way what prompted you to ask this silly question?
                What made you group me with S S S ?

                “I start from Sampanthan’s explicit statement that ” Tamil Nation in Sri Lanka must be recognised as a ‘distinct ethnic entity’ (his words) which runs counter to your theory that Sinhalese are low caste Tamils which is fine for me. “

                Why shouldn’t he demand a separate nation when his people are being subjected to all kind of abuse, riots, discrimination, violence, ……………… humiliation, insecurity, ….. I hear old Hindu temples are being taken over by Assgiria’s A******es with the support of A******es attached to Archeology Department, Police, Provincial Council., ….

                You have chosen not to notice these conflicts, ….. and wars thrust upon Trinco Sam’s people.

                You should stop being a Sambandan watcher and see how your Sinhala/Buddhist fascists create trouble, riots, …. war.

                I am still working on your Sinhala/Buddhist fascist ghetto.

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          Because of backstabbers like you , constantly posting anti Tamil comments. These were poor backward oppressed people who were settled in the Sinhalese heartlands and would have been forced by their circumstances to take on a Sinhalese identity to improve themselves , as they had no chance of returning to their origin South Indian homeland and would not have been aware that there was a thriving native Tamil population living a few hundred miles further to the north and east , where they could have migrated , if they could or were allowed to and retain their Tamil identity. This same forced assimilation of poor Tamil Catholic fishermen living along the North West coast from Negombo to Chilaw , who still did not take on a Sinhalese identity ,was done after indepence and the Sinhalese Catholic Church is complicit in this. You know all this but being an anti Tamil , try to make wise cracks and end up making a fool of your self. As for the Hali caste please google. The Salagama were also called Cali and then Hali. many of them downed tools and decamped to the Kandyan areas , where they worked as weavers and were called Hali. Refer to Hali Ela in the central province.

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            Stop bluffing.
            Hali is short for Halagama which is an equivalent of Salagama (as ‘h’ is substituted for ‘s’ in many words in Sinhala).
            ‘Hali’ is not considered complimentary.
            BTW, when were the Salagama called Cali, and by whom? Some Tamil who cannot tell between the sounds of k and h?
            *
            Do not throw Google in your defence the way you did faked DNA fibs at one time.
            The coastal Tamil Catholics adopted Sinhala for church and schools as directed by the RC Diocese of Chilaw. But would they have done it if they were integrated into the Tamil community?
            *
            The attitude of morons who insult people as ‘low caste’ is part of the tradition of Jaffna Saiva Vellala bigotry.
            This bigotry kept the Tamil people divided by caste, religion and region.
            The Sinhalese too were strongly caste conscious, but it was possible for various communities from Kerala, Tamilnadu and elsewhere to be absorbed on a more equal footing than in the case of Tamils.

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            “The Salagama were also called Cali and then Hali.”
            You have done pretty well to get away with such BS?
            *
            The Salagama were called Saliya more respectfully. (The s to h shift is common in Sinhala and hence Haliya to Hali but not very desired.)
            Who calls them ‘Cali’ except some Tamil who cannot tell between h and k?
            *
            “Refer to Hali Ela in the central province.”
            You are so pathetic as to clutch at straws.
            When did the Salagama decamp and move to Kandyan areas? And what has Hali Ela to do with Salagama weavers?

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              You are mean nasty bigoted anti Tamil states that he is Tamil but constantly attacks Tamils and sides with Sinhalese racists and Muslim opportunists against Tamils. You thing you area intelligent and very witty but hardly know anything and make an idiot of your self. You argue just for the sake of arguing and to show that you are a very important and knowledgeable but you are not. If you are a Tamil , you are a disgrace to all Tamils , in my opinion just a nasty egotistic person , to whom only he matters most and not the welfare of his own people and will do anything to boost his ego and self worth by even pandering to racists and opportunists who are marginalising and discriminating his own people, as this furthers your selfish agenda , at the expense of your own people

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                SSS
                I avoid being personal and am sorry for your plight.
                You set your own traps by manufacturing information.
                Try being objective for a change and less abusive— not easy for one trapped by race and caste prejudices.
                But there is always hope.

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        Shiva Shankar,
        Hik Hik about your history. Tamil have changed to Sinhalese…. why not other slaves, kallathonies, possibly remnants convert to Sinhalese as well?

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        Siva Sankaran,
        “The homeless one” was never a homo. He was a genuine alfa-male. Remember ” the homeless one” was the most spied man around the clock by then British rulers and they had tough laws gainst ga-y behaviour. At time “the homeless one” giving the British nightmares, the British would waste time hesitating to punish “the homeless one”.
        /
        The reason, the great patriotic man opted out of family life was because he saw his mother grieving over his very ill brother.

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          He was and the British knew about this and used it to their advantage. Strange he preached Sinhalese racism but all his diaries are written in English

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    A Great Statesman? More the racist and terrorist who pitched Tamils against the Sinhalese. Only achievements of this fellow was to lead poor and low caste Tamils to Nandikadal, make many Tamils racist terrorists, extortionists, drug peddlers, dole bludgers in the eyes of the world. Many are a curse unto themselves and those around them.

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      lal loo

      “A Great Statesman?”

      Kindly define your question.

      ” More the racist and terrorist who pitched Tamils against the Sinhalese.”

      Of course you are right.
      The first racist recorded in the books was Duttagamini.
      The first vociferous public racist was Anagarika Homeless Dharmapala and his fellow Sinhala/Buddhist failed fascists.
      And the first terrorists who pitched against the Sinhalese were not Tamils but your fellow Sinhala/Buddhist fascists Rohana Wijeyweera and Somapala , and the Sri Lankan state.

      Don’t be too clever.
      You are not only a bigoted Sinhala/Buddhist, the one who suffers either from amnesia or selective memory.

      The more you type the more you reveal about yourself.
      Keep typing.
      You have potential to become a fine Sinhala/Buddhist racist politician, minister, prime minister or president.

      “Many are a curse unto themselves and those around them.”

      Even though their ancestors converted to Sinhala/Buddhism many decades ago.

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    SJV Chelvanayam and those Tamils who destroyed Sri lanka for 30 years should not be forgiven. when china was developing, Sri lanka lost time because of Tamils. chinese Ships were moving in the Indian OCean. Malaysia took the opportunity even though it has Tamils but Sri Lanka could not take the opportunity. So Sinhala people are suffering from every way. Tamil politicians and those Tamils who were at the fore front should not be forgiven.

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    2 in 1,?

    Why mix up?

    Had you written two articles instead of one not mixing the statesman Chevanayakam with the parochial current politics,it would have made sense.

    .I almost totally agree with what you say about Chevanakam, but not about current divisive Tamil politics,

    More than non-violence, it is the regional governance that could be the principle left by Chela for posterity.

    An international “Institute on Regional Governance” named after Chelva could be a fitting monument for all the services rendered by this great Tamil Leader.

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      Your Statesman wrote letters to Tamil government servants asking them not to study Sinhala language and sit for proficiency examination. Many followed his words and lost their promotion, increments and jobs. During UNP –FP govt, nearly thousand Tamil govt servants were sacked for their failure to sit for proficiency examination. Angered by this betrayal, Kayts MP Navaratnam brought a motion in Parliament against public service commission on racial discrimination grounds, none of the FP members including your Statesman seconded it and thereby allowed it to be lapsed.

      You might have heard of Kodeeswaran’s language case. Although Thiruchelvam QC was one of the lawyers represented Kodeeswaran, it was Ranganathan QC did most of the works to the satisfaction of Kodeeswaran. R went to London and appeared with U.K. Lawyers before Privy Council. Remember R was not connected to FP.

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    I wonder if the writer is ignorant of facts or, as not unusual, conveniently ignoring facts.
    *
    SJVC was roundly defeated by Nadesan (UNP candidate) in 1952. (Nadesan resigned from the UNP and as minister protesting UNP’s language policy and contested as an independent in 1956.)
    The Vellala dominated Jaffna society that openly discriminated against oppressed castes even in the 1970s did not go secular to elect SJVC. Thanks to the language issue, the FP won in 1956. It used language to win elections until 1965. SJVC was hailed as a ‘prophet’ for forecasting the ‘tragedy that befell the Tamils’ in 1956. Thanks to politics of sentiment that false image stuck.
    SJVC was also declared the ‘Gandhi of Lanka’ by his promoters. Lanka’s Gandhi was mum on the foul murder of Alfred Duraiappa in 1975, whereas his Indian counterpart would have gone on hunger strike.
    *
    “When opportunity came at last to join the cabinet in 1965, he let…Tiruchelvam take the Federal Party’s (FP’s) seat in cabinet.”
    Two factors influenced the decision.
    Having denounced GGP et al. for accepting cabinet posts and having declared during all elections that it will never accept cabinet posts, the FP got round the problem by making Tiruchelvam Senator to enable him to become minister.
    After the 1961 Satyagraha debacle, the FP was in disarray and SJVC was frail in 1965. Letting another MP become minister would have split the FP (the way ACTC did in 1948).
    *
    “Sampanthan… on the hit list of the Tigers…risked his everything, persuading the community to renounce the Tiger heritage to give peace talks a chance at the end of the war.”
    I beg your pardon, is this about someone who said “three bags full” to Prabakaran in 2002 to win elections in 2002?

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    The FP led by SJV was notoriously reactionary after 1956.
    It opposed every anti-imperialist move by the governments of 1956 -60 and 1960-64.
    It opposed even the Paddy Lands Act because a handful of landlords in Batticaloa will be affected.
    It denounced the nationalization of petroleum companies as immoral.
    Vanniyasingam had a good relationship with the Left and supported the Hartal in 1954. He was strongly anti-UNP all along until he died in 1959.

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    WOW ,, Now the Thamilians have two greatest Laeders..

    It was only last week that the TNA Boss Siva said their Greatest Leader ever was and is LTTE Pira..

    Now Thanthi Chelva as well , according to Mr Hoole ,, How Cool.

    There are more to come I guess. when I look at the TNA List.
    Sampathar who told Maha Raja to Leave the Muslims to Him. That was before Ibrahims and Zaharan’s Boys desended on Kochikade of course.

    Then there is Abraham Sumanithiran the Gun Lawyer in Town , who defied all Mahavamsa Presidential Powers and gave Oxygen to Dr Ranil..

    Then there is Siva the BIL of Pira who is now in charge of Jaffna.

    Last but not least the one time Vellala HC Judge who is now seems a broken man.
    I saw him the other day flaying the TNA calling them Dr Ranil suckers ho are only interested in the Yahapalana Government Perks which Dr Ranil lavishes on them..
    I can understand his frustrations.

    Poor Judge , He promised Heaven and Earth to the LTTE supporters both in Jaffana, and Scarborough and New Jersey .
    But the Vellala Judge I don’t think was able to Cut the Mustard with LTTE London.
    I can understand that,
    LTTE London has converted to full on UNP after Nanthikdal..

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      KASmaalam K.A. Sumanasekera

      “It was only last week that the TNA Boss Siva said their Greatest Leader ever was and is LTTE Pira..”

      When everybody who is somebody believes he/she single handedly won the war, for example, Champika, Gamanpilla, Wimal, Kamal, Shavendra, …. Taraki, Lal loo, Fonseka, …. Gota, Mahinda,………… Asgiriya, … Bandula Jayasekara, Chana Masala Jayasumana, ….. why not your stupid Tamil brethren?

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    SJV as a leader of Federal Party / ITAK has not achieved anything for the betterment of Tamils. He breached his promises given to Tamils in several aspects, ( creating federal state, parity status for Tamil language, preventing Sinhala colonisation in North and East, safeguarding fundamental rights of Tamils, etc; ) failed in complying with his election manifestos and Vaddukoddai resolutions and committed grave mistake by supporting the Indo Ceylon Agreement implementation bill which paved way to deport nearly five hundred thousand Ceylon Tamils to India. All who read tamils’ history since independence are aware of these despicable acts and failures committed by FP / TUF / TULF so far, hence I refrain from narrating the details here.

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      P
      SJV failed in many matters, I agree. Much of it was the fault of the FP as a party.
      But SJV & the FP opposed the Indo Ceylon Agreement strongly.
      The CP (Keuneman) and LSSP consented.
      The LSSP(R) and CP (Shanmugathasan) were bitterly opposed.
      The UNP relished it because the SLFP did the dirty work for it.

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        SJ

        Please remember when a party is at fault it was due to its leader’s inefficiency. Leader is meant to lead the party successfully. He cannot escape from the responsibility by coming out with excuses or blame other party members or seeking God’s help.

        SJV and FP opposed the Indo Ceylon Agreement ( Sirimavo Shastri pact ) until December 1964 that caused the defeat of Srimavo’s govt. But when a bill was introduced in the parliament by Dudley Senanayake in 1968 for the implementation of Indo Ceylon Greement, SJV and his party including Minister Thiruchelvam did extended their support. V Navaratnam was the only FP member opposed the bill but he was pursuaded by SJV to abstain from debate and voting. Apart from V N, senator Manickam opposed the bill and resigned from the party in protest. Thereafter the bill was passed in parliament without opposition. Please read chapter 18 in V N’s book ” the Fall and rise of the Tamil nation ” in this connection.

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          P
          Thanks.
          The defeat of the SLFP Govt had nothing to do with the Sirimavo-Shastri pact.
          The FP and two LSSP dissenters besides CP de Silva and SLFP dissenters voted against the Lake House Bill that forced Mrs B to step down.
          *
          A leader cannot be blamed for everything although he is liable. Much mischief in the FP was by a few taking advantage of SJV’s frailty owing to Parkinson’s.
          SJVC was pushed into proposing the Vaddukoddai Resolution, much against his wish by someone who had lost his seat in 1970; and GGP nodded silently because he did not want to branded a traitor once more.
          SJVC did not live long after the Vaddukoddai Resolution. I do not approve his politics, but he was not one who blamed others for what went wrong in the FP. The ‘God’s help’ story was an expression of desperation when the PA got a 2/3rd majority in 1970. The FP was counting on a hung parliament situation if not a slim majority for the SLFP-led PA.
          I can believe that the FP voted with government on the implementation bill, as they were part of the government. (I wonder what the Appointed MP Thondaman did.)
          If VN was the man of principle that he is made out to be, he would have voted against, made history and faced disciplinary action in the FP, rather than blame SJVC in hindsight.

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            SJ
            ” facing disciplinary action in the FP ”

            There is no such action followed by the FP before expulsion of a member. Here is an example: When VN opposed the Registration of Persons bill that was presented in Parliament subsequent to Indo Ceylon Agreement Act, and did vote against it, Amirthalingam got angry and told VN who was sipping tea at Parliament cafeteria that ” we have no choice but to expel you from the party ” . Following this incident, and without any hesitation A expelled VN from the party by way of a letter. There was no show cause notice, no disciplinary procedure, and no warning. Straight dismissal. This was the federal party lead by SJV.

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              P
              Had VN defied SJV to vote against the implementation bill and got expelled, he would have earned respect for acting on principle.
              I agree that the FP lacked discipline. So did all other Tamil parties led by ‘great’ leaders.
              The left parties generally had a better tradition of party discipline than the rest.

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                SJ

                What about senator Manickam who opposed the implementation bill and resigned from FP ? Any nice words from you about him or do you find fault with him too.

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                P
                I do not have admiration for all but a few FP leaders.
                Until 1961, for better or worse, there was purpose. After the Satyagraha failed there was total loss of direction.
                By 1965 all of them knew that they were taking the Tamils for a thundering ride.
                I comment on issues and am not in the habit of issuing character certificates the way the author of the article does.
                *
                What have you got against Senator Manikkam?

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                  SJ

                  I haven’t got anything against Senator Manickam who was brave enough to oppose SJV and his party. I praise him and expected you to do the same for his stand on implementation bill issue. I did not expect a charactercertificate but your appreciation for a brave man who stood against his party when it was wrong.

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                    Why should I praise or insult anyone because anyone wants me to?

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    This was in the Daily Mirror under the title “One of Sri Lanka’s Greatest Statesmen – SJV Chelvanayakam: Remembering a gentle leader”.
    I wonder why CT changed it from the less challenging “one of the greatest….” to the more arguable “GREATEST”. Or was the latter Prof. Hoole’s original estimation?

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      We carried the original title Prof Hoole has sent.

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        Thanks for letting me know.

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    what did SJV achieve?I go by results.From the time i get up to bedtime i want to see the results i got ,however small it may be.A minute lost is a minute gone and without a result it is a minute wasted.

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    Manel
    Have you considered the prospect of sense intervening on the part of the DM?

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      SJ, you may well be right.
      That probably also explains why the Mirror always rejects any postings I might make on its articles online, and never accepts any articles I have sent them. This has gone on for several years, ever since I emailed a former features editor (Diane something…?) informing her that she had appended my name to someone else’s comments, in a feature she compiled on something — forget what now. The DM hasnt accepted my latest article either, “Bhutan, Buddhism & the Death Penalty,” while 4 other papers have — Island, Financial Times, Daily News & Sunday Observer. Even an email to the Editor querying this censorship of me had no response.
      But, yes, I suppose they must be exercising “sense”.

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        P.S. I’m hoping that a Sinhala paper will carry the translation but so far all the emails I sent it to for Lankadipa, for instance, have said they dont exist or the inbox is full. I’m told that is the paper the Prez reads.

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    A kallathoni from Malaysia is the 1st Terrorist in Sri Lanka ho sow racism and hatred amog races living in Sri Lanka is the greatest Terrorist in Sri Lanka who brought unending misery to Tamil masses in particular and all Sri Lankans hich ended in 2009 by the heroic armed forces of Sri Lanka.

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      We must put aside abuse and ideology when discussing historical figures. That is the principal weakness of most Sinhalese writers, which makes the problem intractable and the reason why the country is moving ever backward – towards inevitable break up? Chelvanayakam was in some ways a man of his times, when a very nasty form of ethno-nationalism had come to dominate this country’s public life and politics. If we try to put ourselves back in his time and emotional climate it is easy to see why we could easily have agreed with him – even if we judge him to have been wrong in retrospect. I am old enough to have tasted something of that atmosphere.
      I would place his greatness in his earnest and sincere opposition to the Citizenship Act, when the general Tamil elite consensus was to go along with Senanayake and win some concessions, such as security for Tamils in public service employment. This is one instance where Dr. E.M.V. Naganathan was the great pillar of strength to him. Apart from the Left, mention must also be made of several Sinhalese such as H. Sri Nissanka who saw that the Act would destroy our respect for the rule of law – the greatest problem we face today. Could we name a current political leader who stands steadfastly for the rule of law?

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        What have the Tamil political leaders achieved by entering into agreements pacts, holding black flags, making inflammatory speeches, conducting satyagrahams picketing protests, going to India and Geneva ? Nothing ! Nothing at all !! Tamils are now living in abject poverty.!!! They failed to get regional, district , and DD councils. No traditional homeland, no parity status for their language, no fundamental rights. They lost even whatever they had. The only gain is tax free car permits.

        Look at the Muslim political leaders. They are there holding important ministries and in high positions whichever the govt comes in to power. They use their brain and positions for the advancement of their community. Best example is the eastern province Muslims. They are well advanced in every aspects. They protect their rights too.They don’t engage in protests pickets or in satyagrahams like idiotic Tamil leaders and their followers.

        So who is best and admirable? Tamils or Muslim politicians?

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        Rajan,
        Chelvanayagama was the original terrorist. Chelva sabotaged the Tamils’ and Muslims’ opportunity go back to Tamil Nadu and reunite with the loved ones. As we all know British and Dutch brought innocent Tamils as slaves to Sri Lanka.
        /
        Chelva’s stupidity cost at least two hundred thousand Sinhala and Tamil lives and billions of dollars. If not for the idiot, Sri Lanka would have been one of the most developed countries in the world.
        — Now you understand why everyone cusses Chelva.

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        RH, you say
        “We must put aside abuse and ideology when discussing historical figures. That is the principal weakness of most Sinhalese writers…”
        I wonder if it is not one of Tamil writers on these pages?
        *
        Putting aside abuse should not be for “historical figures” alone. Even Adolf H and Benito M would count as “historical figures”.
        *
        One’s ideology creeps in even as one tries to be ‘neutral’, as you should know.

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        ‘We must put aside abuse and ideology when discussing historical figures. That is the principal weakness of most Sinhalese writers’

        Hoole have you bothered to read the constant racist comments of the diaspora Tamils Siva Sankaran Sharma, Cholan, Rajash….?

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          I do not always agree with you, but this is a happy exception.
          There are sick racist minds on both sides that destroy meaningful dialogue.

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    “But now after they helped destroy the Tigers, no settlement has been given to us.”
    Prof. Ratnajeevan
    Tamil political class has NEVER submitted a ‘solution’ or ‘settlement’
    for discussion which covers at least 50% of the Tamil Nation (all Tamil speaking people irrespective of their religion, caste or the date of arrival). A Homeland for all Tamil speaking people scattered across the island is the only viable solution. Tamil writers on this column so unabashedly, illogically and hypocritically demand the right to live anywhere in the island coupled with a Homeland in the North East. THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE.
    People of your calibre and status should launch a vigorous campaign encouraging Tamils who presently occupy areas outside NE for voluntary relocation. Depending on the success of that exercise Tamil political class can redefine their requirements.
    *
    Does the Tamil demand for merger of North and East still exist post 21/04?. Political ambitions of Tamils who practice Islam and Christianity as their religion has created a new dimension. For the moment the situation remains cloudy.
    *
    Tamil Nation (all Tamil speaking people irrespective of their religion, caste or the date of arrival scattered across the island) should demand a separate Homeland in one voice and request for international assistance for relocation. A Rohingya type situation should be avoided at all costs.

    Soma

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      somass

      Irrespective of race, religion, region, gender a noisy minority section of the people like you believe that the island exclusively belongs to Sinhala/Buddhists, then you have no solutions..

      Here is something you forget to realise:

      “If there is discrimination in this land which is not their (Tamil) homeland, then why try to stay here. Why not go back home (India) where there would be no discrimination. There are your kovils and Gods. There you have your culture, education, universities etc. There you are masters of your own fate”

      – Mr.W.J.M. Lokubandara, M.P. in Sri Lanka’s Parliament, July 1981
      groundviews.org/2008/04/29

      “I am not worried about the opinion of the Jaffna people… now we cannot think of them, not about their lives or their opinion… the more you put pressure in the north, the happier the Sinhala people will be here… Really if I starve the Tamils out, the Sinhala people will be happy.”
      – President J.R.Jayawardene, Daily Telegraph, July 1983
      http://blackjuly.info/quotestext.html

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    Whenever I hear emotional statements from people like Mavai about war, I get goosebumps!

    Mr Sam should make arrangements with his masters not to take any legal actions against emotional statements delivered by clowns from this building. Whatever was said inside of this building should stay in this building. Because it’s all part of the healing process!

    Good work by SJV’s children for providing a secure place next to the Jaffna library to start the healing process!

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    Chelvanayagama was an illegal immigrant in Sri Lanka
    who was MALAYSIAN of MALAYALI descent and a lunatic.
    /
    Allegedly, according to his son in law, Chelva had psychological issues from childhood due to his father leaving his mother. Terrorist Prabagaran was also a lunatic who enjoyed animal cruelty at childhood.

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    This is typical Sri lanka. A Malaysian born English speaking CATHOLIC SAMUEL JAMES calling himself a Tamil whose parents had been South Indian migrants in Sri lanka. Who knows those two south Indian Migrants adopted this European child.
    Anyway, he is the greatest Statesman in Sri lanka.
    How about Ranil and his UNP. They all are useless Traitors.

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    I can not understand why very intelligent Sri lankan Tamils wanted a Malaysian born Catholic to lead them. That says a lot. That is why Sinhala madayes defeated them soundly. They do not have even correct Statistics to say how many were died or killed because of their homeland. It is 7000 to anywhere from 146,000 to double that number.

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      You and the other Sinhalese morons do not understand anything other than resorting to lies and personal insults. Chelvanayagam was Malaysian born to Sri Lankan Tamil parents , who like many people in the island during the British colonial times migrated to other colonies for work , some remained there but many others like his parents returned, especially during the second world war. Chelvanayagam’s home town is Tellipallai in he is not a Catholic but a Protestant. During the British colonial era we were all British subjects and not Malaysian or Ceylonese or Indian. Many Jaffna Tamil families even worked for the Presidency of Madras during the British colonial era. A few remained and became Indian citizens but 90% or more returned back to Jaffna. Get your facts correct. If a racist opportunistic ,War Criminal lunatic who renounced his Sri Lankan Citizenship and then his US Citizenship can be a hero for the Sinhalese and may soon be elected as a President too, then why cannot Chelvanayagam who is an ethnic Sri Lankan Tamil and was a citizen of the island , when he entered politics be elected and be chosen , as their leader? What has this got to do with him being a Christian or that he was born in then British Malaysia to Sri Lankan Tamil parents during an era when we all British subjects? Sri Lankan Tamils are very secular and will not result to caste politics too, despite what the Sinhalese try to state. It is the Sinhalese who resort to caste and religious politics. This is why all the anti Tamils insult the Tamils on the basis or their religion Christian or other or caste in the case of me Brahmin. You do not find Sri Lankan Tamils resorting to this

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        Brahmin SS Sharma were you born from Brahma’s mouth or the normal biological way?

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          Taraki

          “Brahmin SS Sharma were you born from Brahma’s mouth or the normal biological way?”

          One thing is certain SSS does not sound like a person who was born to a beast (lion) and a beauty. Maybe a Chola descendant, given the abusive debate taking place between Tamil Film Director Ranjit and rest of the Chola fans.

          Please read, it’s fun, and it’s all about you,

          Controversial Tamil director Pa Ranjith makes abusive claims against Hinduism, calls Chola legend Raja Raja Chola a ‘land grabber’
          http://www.opindia.com
          JUNE 10, 2019

          Kaala Director Pa Ranjith Booked for Controversial Speech About Chola Emperor Rajaraja Cholan
          http://www.news18.com
          une 12, 2019

          Pa Ranjit’s speech and its misogynistic undertones are disturbing
          Nrithya Pillai
          2:02 PM, 23 June, 2019Updated 9:36 PM, 25 June, 2019
          thefederal.com

          Pa Ranjith booked for ‘controversial’ remark on Chola emperor Raja Raja
          Ranjith, who spoke about the struggles for land by Dalits and Farooq’s role, also spoke about the Chola emperor’s period.
          http://www.newindianexpress.com
          12th June 2019

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    Dr. Hoole and other commentators,

    As a kid in middle school back in the late 1970’s , I did have the same admiration for SJV that you mention here. It is probably true that SJV was more honest than most SL politicians, but he was hardly perfect.

    The late Chief Justice Neville Samarakoon, who had practiced law under SJV, mentioned that when he asked SJV why he was playing communal politics, he had responded thst it was the only way he could beat GG Ponnambalam. So the rivalry between SJV and GGP was one factor that set the cause of the Tamil politics.

    Secondly continued lamentation that only God can save the Tamil people is not a sign of real leadership. That applies to both SJV ad Sampanthan. Leaders should be more strategic and focus on the achievable, instead of making declarations of idealistic and emotional positions. Tamils shouldn’t become like the Palestinians, where they keep asserting unattainable positions like the right to return, all the while Israel continues to expand and create facts on the ground, progressively and irrevocably marginalizing them.

    [Contd.]

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    Dr. Hoole and other commentators,

    As a kid in middle school back in the late 1970’s , I did have the same admiration for SJV that you mention here. It is probably true that SJV was more honest than most SL politicians, but he was hardly perfect.

    The late Chief Justice Neville Samarakoon, who had practiced law under SJV, mentioned that when he asked SJV why he was playing communal politics, he had responded thst it was the only way he could beat GG Ponnambalam. So the rivalry between SJV and GGP was one factor that set the cause of the Tamil politics.

    Secondly continued lamentation that only God can save the Tamil people is not a sign of real leadership. That applies to both SJV and Sampanthan. Leaders should be more strategic and focus on the achievable, instead of making declarations of idealistic and emotional positions. Tamils shouldn’t become like the Palestinians, where they keep asserting unattainable positions like the right to return, all the while Israel continues to expand and create facts on the ground, progressively and irrevocably marginalizing them.

    [Contd.]

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    [Continuing…]

    For instance, when confronted with the colonization schemes by the SL regimes back in the 1950’s, rather than protest and flail, the FP could have agreed to work together with the GoSL to determine areas where Sinhalese landless could be settled in such a way that it didn’t result in excessive fear, insecurity and a sense of deprivation for the Tamils. It could have been a win-win, where Sinhalese appreciated getting some more land for cultivation but Tamils retained a sense of security in their traditional areas.

    By forcefully objecting without any backup plans, the FP lost any chance of being at the table in making such decisions, allowing the state to continue to settle Sinhalese widely in the border areas, grabbing what Tamil villagers considered their lands, making them poorer and facing constant fear of violence and anxiety. Similarly, on language rights, arrangements could have been made for Tamil people to continue to use Tamil in a variety of practical ways everywhere in SL, without resorting to campaigns like the ‘anti Sri ‘ ones, leading to some emotional youth blackening Sinhalese letters on signboards in Jaffna , etc.

    And more broadly, the Tamil struggle should have been placed within the framework of fundamental rights rather than being seen- and encouraging the Sinhalese to view it as –a separatist quest. Of course given the nature of Sinhalese intransigence and violence, it might not have mattered much and still not borne any fruit, but real leadership is about trying to optimize advantages under constraints imposed by the other side, and coming to a solution that can be perceived as a win-win for both sides. Even now, the Tamil leadership appears to be making the same old mistakes.

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      Agnos many things what you state is true but would the Sinhalese ever have been reasonable? This is the big question . They are a majority with a minority complex and to make matters worse have been brainwashed by the Mahavamsa myth that the land only belongs to them . This is from the most educated to ordinary peasant, as seen by 90% of the Sinhalese comments on this and other forums . This is not confined to Sinhalese Buddhists but to Christians too. When the British gave the land to them on a platter in 1948 , they seized the opportunity fulfil their Mahavamsa dream of a pure Sinhalese only Buddhist land and would not have listened to any reason but only pretended to . This is why they tore up and dishonoured many reasonable agreements. Not only with Chelvanayagam/FP but even the 1987 Indo Lanka agreement. Chelvanayagam tried his best but it takes two people to clap . The Sinhalese were and still are not interested in anything and there were the opportunistic Muslims , who made the best use of this, as historically they had nothing to bargain or claim , so it was a win win situation for them to backstab the Tamils and got many benefits at the expense of the Tamils. The Sinhalese also cunningly used these Muslims to marginalise the Tamils by throwing peanuts at them and pretending to grant the eastern Tamil lands to them but never intended to , They want all lands for them. However the Sinhalese never anticipated the Muslims having their own agenda to steal the east and use this , as a base to steal the entire island for them, with funds obtained from certain Islamic nations. The Foolish Tamil leaders should have insisted on a separate state or a federal solution at the time of independence and the British would have given it to them.

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        However the Sinhalese never anticipated the Muslims having their own agenda to steal the east and use this , as a base to steal the entire island for them, with funds obtained from certain Islamic nations. The Foolish Tamil leaders should have insisted on a separate state or a federal solution at the time of independence and the British would have given it to them. However most these rich/middle class Colombo based Tamil leaders and elite did not care, as they were more at home with their Sinhalese friends and relatives , that the ordinary Tamils from the NE. Even now most of them are above these ,whilst the ordinary Tamils suffer. Sinhalese will only listen to force either local or foreign , Pirapakaran had the opportunity but wasted this also with his foolishness causing the Tamils more misery.

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          SSS

          Pirapakaran’s mistake was that he did not have a team of advisors who could act fearlessly. He depended mainly on Anton Balasingam who went along with whatever P said. AB didn’t had the guts to point out the mistakes pitfalls that will be encountered by P during the liberation struggle. He wanted to be in good books of P and others in the LTTE. If not and if P is not listening to him, why did he continue to remain as political advisor and philosopher and enjoyed all the facilities. ” A king would fail even if he does not have enemies, when he is not surrounded with fearless persons who could pinpoint the possible mistakes king would commit and advice him to prevent the same.” Rough translation of a Thirukkural.

          Is there any reason why AB did not apply to the Home Secretary to deproscribe LTTE while he was in UK, although he issued a statement in April 2001 to say that ” we are already in consultation with eminent lawyers in the field of terrorist legislation and we are advised to apply to the Home Secretary for deproscription” . Eighteen years passed since his announcement and LTTE is still a proscribed terrorist organisation in U.K.

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    Agnos
    “…Neville Samarakoon, who had practiced law under SJV, mentioned that when he asked SJV why he was playing communal politics, he had responded thst it was the only way he could beat GG Ponnambalam.”
    SJVC would have never admitted to playing communal politics in the first place, let alone explain it so stupidly.
    Communalism if any was to keep down the Left.

    “For instance, when confronted with the colonization schemes by the SL regimes back in the 1950’s, rather than protest and flail…”
    The FP seriously entered the picture in 1956. In the B-C pact of 1957 there was agreement with SWRDB about colonization schemes.
    The biggest fault of the FP was that it never had a programme.

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      SJ: What do you think the reason is Hoole writing these CRAP. IS it just to promote his church, Sumanthiran or MAvai Senathiraja ?

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        Himself as usual.

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      SJ,

      The info from Samarakoon was published in the ‘Gleanings’ column by K.S.Sivakumaran in the Island sometime in the late 1980’s or early 1990’s. I don’t recall if it came from a speech or a book or an interview. KSS was arguing SJV was an honest politician regardless.

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        Sgnos.
        Thanks.
        I will accuse SJVC of dishonesty in many matters, but not of gross stupidity.
        Firstly, SJVC would never have admitted to plugging communal politics. The question itself sounds rude.
        Secondly, the reason why SJVC & Co left the ACTC had been repeated endlessly until GGP appeared in court for Amirthalingam.
        If ever the FP used communal language that was to attack the left as Tamil traitors.
        *
        If KSS is not reproducing Samarakoon’s text ad verbatim, I am strongly inclined to reject the story.

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    Pathetic. is this paper designed to divide the Tamil people or to unite them. Poor SJV must be turning in his grave .Bensen

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      BB
      Seriously, what else do you expect from this author?

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    Siva Sankaran Sharma,
    You are correct. Some Demala slaves were used in services in the south. Their job was to remove buckets from toilets. In towns, there were toilets where a bucket was placed. Demala people were hired to remove the buckets full of shit and place an empty bucket.

    Cinnomon peeling and toddy tapping had prevailed in Sinhale before Demalu came to this country. Cinnamon was a main commodity that Sinhale exported. Arab traders were involved in this business. Portuguese and Dutch came to Sinhale because of spices for which Sinhale was famous and grabbed the trade from Arab Muslims.When Sinhala Kings went to war with Demala invaders, elephants were used and these elephants have been fed with toddy to make them aggressive.

    ‘Vellalar landlords in their huge tobacco estates.”
    There were no Vellar landlords. These Vellars, now known as Wellala also brought to this country by Portuguese and Dutch from Malabar. After Portuguese and Dutch left Vellars who are slightly higher in the caste structure grabbed the land and introduced the Malabari customary law called ‘Thesawalamei’ to prevent land going to the hands of Daliths.

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      Eagle Eye,

      “Demala people were hired to remove the buckets full of shit and place an empty bucket.”

      You are talking about the sanitary labour/Janitors of South India, it is a job performed by a special caste called ‘Sakkili’.

      It was the British who brought untouchables from South India (Telugu Nadu – Andara Demala from Andra Pradesh) as sanitary laborers/janitors for them and settled them all over the country. Since the Tamils of North-East followed a very strict caste system, they called these people by the lowest caste of Tamil Nadu (Sakkiliar caste).

      However, the British settled the majority of them in the Southern parts of Sri Lanka. By living with the Sinhalese, a large part of them got converted to Sinhala. People like Eagle Eye who talk a lot about Sinhalayo should check their ancestors without believing in their surnames because you also may descend from those converted families (sanitary brought by the British).

      On the other hand, Demala people of Jaffna were hired by the British as Civil Servants. Even after the British left, most of the Doctors, Postmasters, Railway Station Masters, Police OICs, PWD overseers, Colombo School Head Masters, University Professors, and most of the Executive Officers in the public/civil service in the whole country were Demala people from Jaffna, even in remote Sinhalese village government dispensaries, the Doctors were Demala people.

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        Another Telagu speaking community living among the Sinhalese (very similar to the ‘Sakiliyas’ is the ‘Ahikuntaka’). By living among the Sinhalese, most of them got converted and assimilated with the Sinhala population. The ‘Sakiliyas’ and the ‘Ahikuntaka’ were speaking Telugu basha (the Sinhalese called it Andara Demala) at that time but now they speak Sinhala, and most of them today are converted to Sinhala and the others who still did not convert are also living among the Sinhalese not only in Colombo slums but in all the Sinhala areas.

        In an interesting genetic finding, the Sinhalese and Sinti Roma (Telagu speaking ‘Sakiliyas’ and ‘Ahikuntaka’ community) also have a high frequency of Haplogroup R2 (38% and 53% respectively) (Sengupta, S; et al. (2006), The American Journal of Human Genetics 78 (2): 202–21). They both have a high frequency of Haplogroup H (Y-DNA) (Gray, Russell D.; Atkinson, Quentin D. (2003). These findings point to a multi-faceted origin of Sinhalese and the other ethnic groups like Sinti Roma with a similar genetic pattern of mixed genetic background.

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      Blind eye
      “Some Demala slaves were used in services in the south. Their job was to remove buckets from toilets.”

      You must be one of them.

      Have you done your DNA test?

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      Sakkiolis are not Tamils but Telugu a Telugu caste . There are no Tamil castes that clean night soil. or sweep roads. The British brought the Sakkilis from the former Madras presidency , that consisted of the entire Tamil lands , southern Telugu( Andhra) and northern Malabar Kerala lands. The Telugu Sakkili caste were used by the British as scavengers , road sweepers and night soil cleaners throughout the entire Madras presidency and were later imported to Ceylon for this job. Here after a few generations they adopted Tamil as their mother tongue , just like they did in Tamil Nadu but still speak in Telugu amongst themselves. Ever heard them speaking amongst themselves. It is in a Telugu dialect and not Tamil . This is why the Sinhalese called them Andhara Demala( meaning Andhra or Telugu Tamils) . Another lot that were imported by the British from the Telugu regions of the Madras presidency to do menial and scavenging jobs are the Gypsies . Most of them have now assimilated into the Sinhalese Buddhist identity but many even now speak Telugu amongst themselves. You see them going around telling fortunes and working as snake charmers. These people are Telugus . The Karawa , Salagama, Durawa are of Tamil ancestry.

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        SSS
        Around 30% of Tamils in Tamilnadu are of Telugu origin, and only a tiny minority are Arundhathiyar (also known as Adi-Dravida).
        Many groups including Brhamins and Devadasis migrated from what became Andhra in the 1950s
        *
        The Kannadiga and Telugu people are distinct from the Tamils far more than Malayalis, and part of their ancestry traces further north.
        Both Kannada and Telugu languages have been distinct from Tamil and claim pre-Christian era origins.
        *
        The Gypsies are a different group of people from Arunthathyar.
        *
        Interestingly, I came across a feature article in a serious literary magazine around 10 years ago in which a man who made a living by clearing blocked sewer pipes and gullies (a more challenging job than collecting excrement) was a Brahmin by caste. In fairness, he was not ashamed of the job.
        *
        I wonder if our proud Brahmin here is by any chance related to him.

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          It is not 30% but 10%

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          Lots of Brahmins from UP /Bihar clean toilets due to extreme poverty, so what ? May be a source of amusement for you but you should be proud of them , as they are trying to earn an honest living, and not let their caste constrain them. . However never expect that from you, as you are a nasty spiteful person. I clean my own toilet at home and may old parents as they cannot do it. You can call me a Dalit and be amused.
          We are answering to Eagle Eyes stupid accusation. We know gypsies are different from Arunthathiar and who stated they are the same. The Aruntathiar migrated to the Tamil lands from the Telugu and Kannada speaking areas but now more concentrated in the Tamil Nadu.
          The Kannada origin ones came with the Hosalaya invasion during the 13Th century and the Telugu ones largely with the Naicker rule. Some of the names used for them. Chakkiliya meaning chicken-hearted or beef eaters, Pagadai meaning they are dice in the caste game, Mathari meaning useless. The traditional profession of this community – scavenging, cleaning sewage, removal of human excreta and handling corpses. And hence they are the marginalized among the marginalized and are at the absolute bottom of the caste totem
          We are stating the so called gypsies in the island are of Telugu origin and most of them have now taken on a Sinhalese Buddhist identity. The percentage of Tamils of Telugu origin is not 30% , but more around 10% , largely from Naicker, Chakkili or Aruthathiyar and a few other castes including certain Telugu origin Brahmin sects , like the Mulluluku Nadu Brahmins. Actor Gemini Ganesan was one of them, who arrived with the Naicker rule . They are different from the native Tamil Brahmins. The Telugus like to inflate and claim that around 30% of Tamil Nadu’s population is of Telugu origin.

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            “Lots of Brahmins from UP /Bihar clean toilets due to extreme poverty, so what ? May be a source of amusement for you but you should be proud of them”
            Not at all amused. I said that the man was not ashamed.
            Only onne who offensively refers to people as low caste and pretends that he is of high birth will have a problem.
            *
            Telugu claims can run much higher than 30%.
            Telugu is first language to 5.7% in Tamilnadu. So 10% is a poor underestimate.
            Telugu penetration continued for several centuries after the Vijayanagara Kingdom: political instability was a factor in later periods. People who settled in the interior got absorbed. Later Madras being the base of British colonial rule in the South attracted non-Tamils.
            There is nothing called a pure race. If you could claim to be Tamil there is nothing wrong with a Telugu descendant claiming to be one. Some of the Tamil fanatics of Tamilnadu are Telugus.
            *
            Interestingly, Tamil is spoken as Tamil should be only by a minority today.

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              Oh my you really are a spiteful nasty bit of goods, constantly nit picking on Siva. You start something silly and when he answers nit pick. What a jerk

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            Thank you SSS.
            I would appreciate if you could give some reference materials.

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          According to the 2001 census, Telugu is spoken by 5.65% of the population of Tamil Nadu, making it the second-most spoken language in the state. The recent migrants from Andhra Pradesh speak Telugu, while the Nayakkars and Reddiars living in Tamil nadu few centuries since before the Indian independence speak Tamil and Lesser extent Telugu.

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      Potta Eagle,

      “Some Demala slaves were used in services in the south. Their job was to remove buckets from toilets.”

      Sakili is a job title (caste) for sanitary laborers and today the Sinhalese have replaced the Demalas in Colombo and other major cities. Also, your women are the most famous public sanitary laborers in the mid-east. Just because you speak Sinhala and go to Buddhist temple do not think that you are a Niyama Sinhalaya, you sound very much like one of them.

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      EE,

      Your above comment proves that you lack a civilized upbringing.

      People who clean toilets and drainages are also doing a job, like many of us. They are also human beings and may have children and wives who do not want to see their fathers and husbands getting insulted by others. Every time you insult someone with the job what they are doing, remember, there would be a small child witnessing his/her father (probably, the heroes of their worlds) getting insulted and abused.

      Mind what you write. This forum deserve more decent people than you. You are really disgusting!

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    SJV was political separatist of extremist by founding father of Tamil Eelam by Federal Party.
    The Tamil federalism is an undeniably that Tamil speaking people has to be established First Tamil Eelam regime land of Sri lanka.
    Hence, SJV was the founder of FP has forget that Tamil Nadu in India is their real homeland….for Tamils. Meanwhile that FP has created myth of Tamil Eelam was a concorde story by Tamil chauvinist and politics of Tamil Nationalism was advocated by SJV. He was born to be as anti-Sinhalese race and
    Buddhist leader of Tamil community.
    Therefor political ideology of SJV of that FP was anti-Establishment political outfit has never being accepts of rules of legemeticy that sovergrinity by Sri lankan majority . On that grounds that FP was not a mainstream democratic shape of organization.
    It has take a much more nuanced of Federal outlook at to how relationship between state and sovereignty that Federalism of Tamils has change.

    Well, whole land of Island of that SJV do not recognized Sovereignty of Sri Lankan (Ceylon) by FP.
    First of all the crisis-arise of that political relation to an Independent State of its Sovereignty, Territorial Integrity has been unaccepted to policy of Tamil federalism advocated by SJV.
    As of per that national sovereignty of Island was loosing factor among majority Tamil community.

    So we have learn lessons of SJV and his FP, after the TULF, then TNA of Axis of LTTE ,once again a new type of resistance,that we have to have broad base movement to be invented.
    By and large an ideology of Eelam or so-called Homeland..of SJV-FP is that “Tamils aspirations “in real term that meaning is by self-destruction national democratic State of Sri lanka.

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      SJV was a separatist and the arch enemy of the Sinhala people.

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        Taraki

        “SJV was a separatist and the arch enemy of the Sinhala people.”

        Maybe he was forced to take up separatism by the growing Sinhala/Buddhist fascist tendency. Why do you say he was an arch enemy of the Sinhala people?

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    Siva Sankaran Sharma said….
    “The low caste slaves brought into the island from South India, by the Portuguese and Dutch were settled in the Sinhalese south along the western and southern coasts”

    It is true originally they called themselves as Tamil speaking Tamils, then Sinhalese speaking Tamils, then Tamil speaking Sinhalese, now they are Sinhalese speaking sinhalese. This has been forecasted by SJV well before the independent (that time they were Tamil speaking Tamils, and their children were sinhalese speaking Tamils).
    BTW SJV is not from Malasiya (used to be Malaya), his ancestors went to
    work there during the colonial times, like my great grandfather was postmaster there.
    Pls. do not mix up and fabricate stories here.

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    There are so many articles. This is the most entertaining.

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    This Samuel James, was he Christian or Catholic. Tamils are fighting for him. I do not think high caste Tamils would involve in this drama.

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      JD, as SSS is a Brahmin he cannot soil his hands with low caste matters. So he just writes general crap instead.

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        Taraki

        “So he just writes general crap instead.”

        Are you saying SSS is the modern day equivalent of Mahanama, Kamalika Pieris, Raj Somadeva, ……. Champika, Weerawansa, Udhaya Gamanpilla, Bandu de Silva, Chana Jayasumana, …………

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