19 September, 2020

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Tamil Is The Language Of The Original Inhabitants Of This Island

By C.V. Wigneswaran

Justice C.V. Wigneswaran MP

Someone asked me; You have made a sweeping statement that Tamil is the language of the original inhabitants of this Island. What benefit has it brought to you except that you have earned the wrath of the Sinhala People?

My response was: Not a sweeping statement! It was a well studied statement. Any objective student of History, Sinhala or Tamil, Muslim or Burgher would accept my statement. I did not mean to annoy anyone. I simply stated a historical truth. But the fact remains that I have annoyed certain people very emotionally. Many of them are people who had a very good opinion of me. Now they are aghast! But Truth has to come out one day. If so, why not through me despite the consequences?

I used to listen to the late World Renowned Philosopher J. Krishnamurthi in the company of Dr. E.W. Adikaram, Mr. Shanmuganayagam and many others in the sixties, seventies and eighties. One matter Krishnaji stressed was to be aware of our conditionings. Unless we are careful with ourselves, our conditionings will motivate us and many a wrong and lapse would take place due to our strong conditionings. 

When Field Marshall Sarath Fonseka or Vice Admiral Sarath Weerasekera or Ms. Diana Gamage retorted so vehemently we witnessed to what extent they have been conditioned by this idea that Sri Lanka has always been Sinhala Buddhist and the Tamils are later and recent illegal immigrants. They just believed it to be so. They had no occasion to question the veracity of those beliefs. But the Truth as appreciated today is different especially after many recent findings of excavations, inscriptions, coins, DNA Reports after tests and so on. The fact is Tamils have existed from pre Buddhistic times in Sri Lanka continuously in the North and East especially up to date. There had been influx of Tamils during Pandyan, Chola, Chera times. In recent times Dravidians came during Arya Chakravarthies’ times. Last influx of Tamils were two hundred years ago during British times. Thus Tamils were the original inhabitants of this Island and there had been later additions of Tamils, Malayalees and Telungars from time to time adding to the Original inhabitants and soon all of them spoke the Tamil language. 

There had been Madurai Tamils who came for the coronation of Don Juan Dharmapala about four hundred years ago who were given cinnamon lands in certain areas in the South, who married here and their descendants now call themselves full-fledged Sinhalese. Lots of them fought the recent Thirty Years’ War feeling themselves as true blue blooded Sinhalese!

Tamil language has been used in Sri Lanka for over 3000 years. When Buddhism was introduced to Sri Lanka the persons who received same were Tamil speaking people. The Sinhala language is a very recent mixed language which came into use only in the 6th or 7th Century AD. It grew out of Pali, Tamil, Sanskrit and other dialects then prevailing here. I am aware as to how Professor Malalasekera when sent as High Commissioner to Delhi in the fifties he borrowed lots of Hindi words then in use in Delhi, Sinhalacised them and introduced them into the Sinhalese language. Many Sinhala words used in Courts now owe their origin to Hindi words derived from Sanskrit. All these have no doubt enriched the Sinhala language and we are happy about that.

How did this idea that the original inhabitants of this Island were Sinhalese come about, you may ask? 

Mahawansa written in Pali, does not refer to the Sinhalese language anywhere since there was no such language at that time. If there was no such language it follows there were no people speaking that language at that time to be identified as Sinhalese.

Mahawansa was written for the glorification of Buddhism and it is stated so at the end of every stanza. The identity of Dutugemunu as a Sinhalese was a later innovation. He was called Dushta Kamini (the evil Kamini) since he did not follow his father’s advise not to go to war with the noble King Ellalan who ruled from Anuradhapura for over forty years. But the young Kamini not yet 30 years of age went to war. When he had to fight King Ellalan 78 years of age then for three continuous days and could beat him only because his elephant was bigger in size he was full of respect for the  King and built the Ellala Sohana, a monument for the King. I had seen people getting down from their cycles to pay respects to the noble King’s Sohona in Anuradhapura where my early life was spent not far from the Sohona. 

Thus Mahawansa was a mixture of then known facts and Mahanama’s fanciful Buddhism oriented fiction.

Even though the Mahawansa refers to the people who lived here at the time of the coming of fictitious Vijaya as half humans that was not so. There was a flourishing Tamil (Naga) civilization here.

Kuveni whom Vijaya is said to have married must have been half human if Mahawansa was authentic and true. If she was half human why did he marry her? Of course it could be argued Vijaya was half human, being a descendant of a Lion and therefore he married another half human! Kuveni is said to have been a nature worshipper (Iyakkar).

No Buddhist would ask the question as to how Buddhism had to be first introduced by Mahinda centuries later when the Buddha had already visited Sri Lanka three times and the people had identified him as the Buddha at the time of his visits during his mundane existence then. Surely Buddhism would have been flourishing at the time of the arrival of Mahinda if people had known that the Buddha had visited us here. These visits were included in the Mahawansa for the glorification of Buddhism by the author of the Mahawansa. 

Buddhism  therefore was received by the Tamils. Devanampiya Tissa is a Sinhalacised form of the Tamil name Devanai Nampiya Theesan – One who believed in Divinity. His father was not Mottai Siva but Mootha Sivan!  The Westerners had difficulties in pronouncing Tamil names and often  made a mess out of their translations. The wrong understanding of our history and our local names by Westerners contributed to a lop sided view of History. The Historians among the Westerners had equated Buddhism with the Sinhalese not realizing early converts to Buddhism were Tamils. Professor Sunil Ariaratne rightly referred to Demala Baudhayos (Tamil Buddhists). The Saivite Tamils were the early converts to Buddhism. The Shivalingas at Naguleswaram, Thiruketheeswaram. Thirukoneswaram, Munneswaram and Thondeswaram (at Dondra) were pre Buddhistic Shiva Lingas. 

The Sinhalese language came nearly a thousand years after Buddhism. All this will annoy acutely my Sinhala Buddhist brothers and sisters. I am not asking anyone to accept what I say. In the true tradition of the Kalama Sutta let an independent Commission consisting of well known Internationally recognized Historians make a study of all available evidence and give their opinion. Professors Indrapala, Pathmanathan, Sudarshan Seneviratne  and others are Internationally reputed Historians.

Meanwhile it is best our people do not get excited and become emotional. Let us remember our emotions are different to historical facts. Hitherto some pseudo Historians have fed our people with false facts and conditioned them accordingly. I don’t blame Field Marshall and others for getting emotionally affected. After all what I am saying is equivalent to someone saying your father is not the person whom you believe to be your father. None will take that lightly. But the time has come for us to understand our history properly. I have been a student of history having done it as a subject for my General Degree.

You asked what benefit my outbursts could bring. Suppose the Historians agree with what I say look at the difference in perception it would bring. We Sri Lankan Tamils would not be kallathonis in the eyes of the Sinhalese. We would receive a recognition hitherto not given to us. May be the Sinhalese would consent to give us equal status and allow the Tamils of the North and East to mind their own business within a united Sri Lanka giving way to reconciliation, peace and prosperity.      

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    I agree with C.W.Vigneswaran. Upon an examination of the origins of Sri Lanka, the South Indian history can lend some support with special reference to Sangam Age. Prior to the arrival of Prince Vijaya and 700 men, the inhabitants of Sri Lanka were the Nagas and the Rakshas. The Nagas were the inhabitants in the North of Sri Lanka, while the Rakshas were the inhabitants of the South of Sri Lanka. However, there are various school of thoughts as to who were Tamils and Sinhalese. Tamil literary works such as Kalithohai mentions a continent called Kumari Kandam which existed about 10,000 years ago. During the Sangam Age, both Tamil Nadu and Kerala are known as Tamilaham when they shared the common language and culture. In the Sangam age, South India consisted of a number of Tamil Kingdoms., the famous being the Cheras, Cholas and the Pandyas. In the Sangam literature, the word ‘Chera’ had been regularly used along with ‘Pandya’ and ‘Chola’. The word ‘Kerala’ was never used in the Sangam age, but there are possibilities it could have derived from Prakrit origin. According to ‘Kalithohai’, the Nagas were the arch enemies of the Cheras and the Pandyas. The Nagas were eventually driven to Central India while some fled to North Sri Lanka before the arrival of the Prince Pandya and his 700 men.

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      There is a typographical error. The last line should be read as Prince Vijaya and his 700 men.

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      Naga or Chera is the same. So they could not have been enemies. Chera is another name for Naga. The ancient Tamil Chera kingdom had a lot of Naga tribes their descendants are the modern day Nairs. This is why it was called Cheralam or Chera Nadu in Tamil and the island was called Cheran Theevu ( the island of the Naga) which later the westerners or Arabs corrupted it to Serendib. They never could have been the enemies of the Chera as they were one and the same people, unless these various Naga tribes were fighting amongst themselves. This is the reason the Jaffna Tamils traditionally had a lot of similarity in culture with the Nairs of Kerala . Especially worshipping the cobra and the eastern Mukkuva Tamils pracised Other modern descendants of the Naga in India are the Nayar, Naynar and the Naicker or Naicks . The Naga were a Dravidian people , so in the island they would have spoken a language or dialect that was either semi or proto Tamil. Eg, Elu. Around 3000 years ago they adopted proper Tamil as their mother tongue and into the Tamil culture , however after the arrival of Buddhism , many of the Naga living along the western parts of the island converted to Buddhism and gradually assimilated into the Sinhalese identity by the 9th Century. Prehistorically the northern and western parts of the island was occupied these Tamil or semi Tamil speaking Naga tribes.

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        Siva Sankaran Sarma,
        The earliest Tamil literary work, the Kalittokai, mentions a continent called Kumari Nadu or Kumari Kandam, believed to have been located to the South of Kanyakumari 10,000 years ago, between the then Kumari and Pahruli rivers, during which period Pandyan kings such as Chenkon, and the Cheras supposedly ruled this country. They fought & defeated the Nagas, who might have been a non-Dravidian people, or another species of living beings. Kalittokai again mentions a war between the combined forces of Villavars and the Meenavars (the Cheras and the Pandyas respectively), who fought a fierce war against the Nagas who were eventually driven to Central India while some of them fled to North Sri Lanka. Also, the Cheras, along with the Pandyas and the Cholas, find mention as one of the three ruling dynasties of the Southern region of the then Bharatavarsha, in the epic Ramayana. They are also mentioned in the Aitareya Aranyaka, and the Mahabharata, where they (along with the Pandyas and the Cholas) are believed to have been on the side of the Pandavas in the Great War.
        The ancient Chera Empire, whose court language was Tamil, ruled Kerala from their capital at Vanchi Karuvur (modern Karur in Tamil Nadu). Kerala at that time was composed of two regions, Venadu (later called Travancore) and Kuttanadu (Malabar).

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          AYATHURAY RAJASINGAM
          Dr. B.R. Ambedkar believed that “Dravidians as Nagas occupied not merely southern India but that they occupied the whole of India – South as well as North.” He further says, what is important here is that ‘Dravida’ is not an original word. It is the Sanskritized form of the word ‘Tamil’. The original word ‘Tamil’, when imported into Sanskrit, became ‘Damilla’ and later on Damilla became Dravida. The word ‘Dravida’ is the name of the language of the people and does not denote the race of the people. Tamil or Dravida was not merely the language of South India but before the Aryans came, it was the language of the whole of India and was spoken from Kashmir to Cape Comorin. In fact, it was the language of the Nagas throughout India. Refer: https://www.forwardpress.in/2017/09/dr-ambedkar-on-asuras/#_edn8

          Continued…

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            Continued from above…

            The Nagas (“Naga” literally means “snake” or “serpent” in Sanskrit, Pali and Tamil) were believed to be the ancient people of South Asia who once inhabited the Indian sub-continent (including Sri Lanka). They were also known as original inhabitant of this sub-continent. The Sanskrit text (Mahabharata epic) begins with the history of Nagas. Nagas are also mentioned in the Ramayana and Rig Veda. The Jaffna Peninsula was mentioned in Tamil literature as Naga Nadu and in the Pali literature (Deepavamsa and Mahavamsa) as Nagadipa.

            The Nagas who lived in Sri Lanka before the ‘Vijaya invasion’ seem to have spoken the Tamil language. This old Tamil mixed with the speech of the Yakkas and with the Prakrit/Pali of the Buddhist Monks of later centuries developed into the dialect known as Elu, spoken by the people of Ilam, the ancient name by which the Island was called by Tamils. In the CEYLON HISTORICAL QUARTERLY, Vol. I, No. 3, pp. 172-173, we are told the ‘Nagas for certain, living along a belt of country extending from Kelaniya as far as Nagadipa must have migrated from South India long before the Vijaya invasion’.
            There were other early Sri Lankan poets such as Mudagagayar, Ila Nagar, Nilakanthaer referred as having had associations with the Tamil Sangam poets. (‘TAMILAN ANTIQUARY’, Vol. II, No. I, p. 93).

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              Continued from above…
              Kanagasabhai in his ‘Tamils Eighteen Hundred Years Ago’, has pointed out that-judging from Ptolemy’s account at Uraiyur (Mc. Crindles Ptolemy, p. 185; Kanagasabhai, ibid. p. 44.), the Chola capital, the Cholas had been displaced by the Sore (Sora) Nagas who were evidently the descendants of the Chola and Naga families who had intermarried. About this period the Nagas, probably as feudatories of the Chola Kings of South India, appear to have been placed as petty kings in various parts of Sri Lanka (ibid. p. 44).
              Note the following names of some of the early Sri Lankan kings:
              Khallata Naga …… 109 B.C. (son of Sada Tissa, the brother of Duttugamunu)
              Cora Naga …… 63 B.C. (son of Valgamba)
              Ila Naga …… 36 A.D. (nephew of Sivali)
              Mahallaka Naga …… 136 A.D. (grandson of Vasabha)
              Kuhunna Naga ….. 186 A.D. (brother of Batiya Tissa)
              Kudda or Kunca Naga …… 188 A.D. (Kutti/Kunchu means small in Tamil)
              Siri Naga I …… 189 A.D. (son of Batiya Tissa)
              Abhaya Naga …… 231 A.D. (brother of Vera Tissa)
              (It is apparent that the Tissa in the list of early kings of Sri Lanka belonged to the Naga tribe).

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            Yes, I read Dr.B.R.Ambedkar’s account of Nagas tribes. He is a great intellect and asserted that the word Dravida for the people of South India must not, therefore, obscure the fact that the Nagas and Dravidas are the one and the same people. They are only two different names for the same people. Naga was a racial or cultural name and Dravida was their linguistic name. Even in Kashmir there was Shaivaism at the beginning and the influence of Tamil or Dravida language cannot be ruled out. Thanks for the information.

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              AR
              I admire Ambedkar very much for what he stood for (things that our Tamil nationalists disapprove of).
              But I would rather rely on the authority of historians and archaeologists of repute in these matters.

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        Malayalam is a unit of language spoken by the natives of Chera or Kerala where words are the blocks, from which sentences are combined or fused, the sound and meaning of two words. Collection of information is acquired through communication process with factors such as feelings, acknowledgement and emotions. This applies to every language. It is a mechanism which involves technique for socialization. Tamil was in use in literary works as evidenced by Silapathikaram (The Jewelled Anklet). But literary works in Malayalam happened to be in use in the 9th or 11th century having derived from Tamil. Though Malayalam is considered as one of the major Dravidian languages, it is distinct from Tamil. Malayalam is a language with two forms where one form is associated with the language of the law and the other form is a colloquial vernacular form that is widely used. Today Malayalam is Kerala’s main language, an offshoot of Tamil. All historical records are in Tamil. The splitting of the word ‘Malayalam’ into two words ‘Mala’ and ‘Aalam’, will give an idea as to the description of Malayalam. Mala means mountain and Aalam means land, all of which implies a land of mountains. Similarly, in North Sri Lanka (Jaffna) it is common for Tamils to speak the Tamil language in association with the language of the law though at times it happens to be colloquial.

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        Sri Lanka was known by many different names. Thambapanni (Prince Vijay), Heladiva (Mahavamsa), Sinhale/Sihaladipa (Deepavamsa), Lanka (Ramayana), Ilam/Eelam (Tamil Sangam), Taprobane (Greeks & Romans), Serendib (Persians & Arabs), Mummudi Cholamandalam (during Chola rule), Ceilao (Portuguese), Zeylan (Dutch), Ceylon (British), Ilamkai (Tamil), Sri Lanka (Republican constitution).
        The kingdom of Tambapanni in Anuradapura/Rajarata was ruled by Lambakanna, Moriya, Sola/Soli (Cholas), and Pandu (Pandyans). They were all Dravidian but their language was either Aryan (Prakrit) or Dravidian (Tamil). None of them were known (or mentioned anywhere) as Sinhala.

        Right from early period till today, Sri Lanka was known in Tamil as Ilam/Eelam and the Sri Lankan Tamils were known as Ila/Eela Tamils. Hela is the Pali word for the Tamil word Ila/Eela. What the Tamils call as Eela people of Eelam is what the Sinhalese call as Hela people of heladiva (in Pali). They were all originally Naga tribes or Dravidians of South Asia, the Nagas who originally occupied the South Asian region and later the South India – Sri Lanka region were Dravidians (Tamils).
        (Refer: https://www.forwardpress.in/2017/09/dr-ambedkar-on-asuras/#_edn8)
        Elu basa (Dravidian language) was known in Pali as Helu/Hela basa. Sinhala Language is mainly based on Sanskrit/Prakrit & Pali with lot of influence from Elu (includes Tamil) spoken by the Eela/Hela people (Nagas) of Eelam/Heladiva.

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        Some more fiction as history.
        Can any evidence be provided for the big claims like “Chera is another name for Naga”?
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        The etymology of “Nayar, Naynar, Naicker, Naicks ” etc point to Nayaka (leader) rather than the Sinhala ‘naya’ for cobra. Also These names evolved much later in history.
        Naaga (Naaka in Tamil) is a world apart from Naayaka.

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          SJ Thaatha the self hating Thamizh , who runs behind Chingkallams, Chinese and Thullukans everything other Thamizh post is fiction to you but the lies and stupidity that Chingkallams and Thullkans post is like nectar. Thaatha please google and read.

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            Relishing rolling in the usual material?
            Carry on regardless.

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        Siva Sankaran Sarma,
        What I knew was Kerala was once known as Chera/Sera Nadu.
        It is interesting to note what you have said about Cheran Theevu which later the Arabs corrupted it to Serendib. In other words, the whole island was known as Cherantheevu or Serantheevu, derived from the word Cheran or Seran (meaning Naga) and theevu (meaning island).
        I am looking for authentic source for the above, like to know from where you got this information (especially Chera/Sera is the same as Naga), because Prof. Raj Somadeva (senior archeologist) claims that the Arabs corrupted the term Sihaladipa to Serendib and the Europeans corrupted the term Tambapanni to Taprobane. What I feel is, all these interpretations are based on assumptions and we will never know the actual fact.

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          We all know that Raj Somadeva is very biased Sinhalese racist appointed by the government to claim that everything in the island is Sinhalese and Buddhist. His findings and claims are all very biased and twisted and are to be taken with a pinch of salt . The origin of the name Tambapanni or Taprobane is the thamirabarani or Tamraparni or Porunai in Southern Tamil Nadu that empties at the Gulf of Mannar. Please read this not going to explain
          ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thamirabarani_River#:~:text=The%20Thamirabarani%20or%20Tamrapar
          i%20or%20Porunai%20is%20a,of%20southern%20India%20in

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            sorry this the link

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thamirabarani_River

            In Sri Lanka Tamil and Malayalam for lord is Thambiran /Thampiran and not Tombrane , this is the English version of the ancient Tamil word for lord . Shortened versions of Thambiran is Thambar, Thampi or Thampu.
            Like the famous Tamil Christian thesis
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thambiran_Vanakkam

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            Siva Sankaran Sharma,
            Dumbo, Raj Somadeva is not a biased Sinhalese racist appointed by the government to claim that everything in the island is Sinhalese and Buddhist.
            Raj Somadeva is a professor of archaeology at the University of Kelaniya in Sri Lanka and a member of the World Archaeological Congress. He has received the Charles Wallace Research Fellowship from the Institute of Archeology at University Collage London in 2005.
            When Demalu cannot challenge Prof. Raj Somadeva’s findings on pre-history of Sinhale, they start mud-slinging campaign.

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              Eagle,

              Archaeology/History has always been political in Sri Lanka and it’s no different even today. The archaeological department is the handmaiden of the Government and always biased towards Sinhala and Buddhism. During 1940s, archaeologists like Prof. Senerath Paranawithana were promoted to twist and misinterpret their research in favour of Sinhala and Buddhism. The same tradition continues even today. Archaeologist Prof. Raj Somadeva is a fully biased researcher just like Paranawithana in distorting the archeological findings and misinterpreting them in favor of Sinhala-Buddhists. Somadeva’s interpretations are not open minded and purely based on speculation/assumptions. Archaeologists like Somadeva were promoted to the top position to twist and misinterpret his research in favour (biased) towards Sinhala and Buddhism and he is shamelessly doing it. If the archaeological/epigraphical findings did not match the expected results, they redefine/misinterpret them using their own theories, assumptions, hypothesis and analogies to prove their biased point of view. Archaeological excavations in the North & East are conducted by Sinhala-Buddhists, Buddha statues and Prakrit inscriptions appears from nowhere (bury and rediscover) whereas, whenever they discover statues of Siva or Tamil Brahmi inscriptions, it disappears (goes missing) or gets misinterpreted. By the way, Prof. Raj Somadeva never claimed that the pre-historic people of Sri Lanka were Sinhalese.

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              Mahindapala, Raj Somadeva may be a professor in Archaeology, a member of world archaeological congress or received university fellowship, fact is that he is intellectually dishonest. He is also part in cover up of Mannar mass grave. Has he ever published worthwhile material which were presented in international forum and had peer review. He is only blabbering to cater to Sinhala bigoted audience in Sri Lanka and middle east. I watched the video interview where he is trying to counter CVW statement. It is all rubbish quoting unproven hearsay about past and no mention about evidence unearthed on Dravidian civilization in pre-historic times. In 2016 in Devalapola near Minuwangoda cist burial site was found where artefacts were taken by Kelniya archaeological faculty. Why is he silent about it and why no further action was taken to carbon date it and send bones for DNA studies. What pre-historic findings has he got which is different from that is known. Why is he lying about Tamil brahmi inscription found in Medagama near Monaragala a few days ago.

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          The old Tamil word for the Naga people was Cherar, meaning hill or mountain people . Hence Chera Nadu( the a land of the Naga) Cheran Theevu ( the island of the Naga). Cerentivu or Cherantheevu . Sri Lanka was in ancient times inhabited by the Nagas and Yakshas. The Romans called the island Serendivis ( Cheran Teevu) and the Arabs called Sri Lanka Serendip (Serendipity is originated from this word). From this word, the Greeks called Sri Lanka Sielen Diva, and from the word Sielen many European names were derived including the Portuguese Ceilao, Dutch Zeilan and British Ceylon.
          The Sinhalese are trying to state that Ceylon or Serendib is derived from Sinhale or Sivuhela or the four ancient Hela tribes but this is a far cry . Any one with some sense can see it is derived from the ancient Tamil word for the island Cheran Theevu meaning the island of the Chera or Naga. The Sinhale itself is the Prakritized version of another ancient Tamil name for the island Chingkalam meaning the copper/ copp[er coloured or red land. in Tamil. Cheppu or Chem ( red or copper) + Alam ( Land ) = Chingkalam . This later got Prakrised to Sinhala , Just like Eelam and Elu became Hela. Nothing to with lions or part lions from North India . Which is a myth.

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            The term Cheralamdivu or Cheran Tivu and its cognates, meaning the “island of the Chera kings”, is a Classical Tamil name of Sri Lanka that takes root from the term “Chera

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chera_dynasty#cite_note-28
            Giving links to read what you want

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            Siva Sankaran Sarma,
            You have elaborated it well, thanks but I am still looking for authentic source (not Wikipedia) for the above (especially Chera/Sera is the same as Naga, and the island was once known as Cherantheevu or Serantheevu). Prof. Raj Somadeva quotes the Dipavamsa (which says the island was called Sihaladipa), the Mahabaratha (which say the ‘Singalas of Lanka are barbarous mlecchas’) and some Tamil inscriptions in South India (TANJAVUR BRIHADHISWARA TEMPLE INSCRIPTIONS) where Chola Emperor Rajaraja has inscribed about Ila-mandalam of the Singalas, warlike people who possessed rough strength.

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    If that was the case there should be Tamil Nadu language inscriptions made in the island (not Tamil Nadu or China), Tamil Nadu language history books to rival Mahavamsa, Chulawansa, Deepawamsa, etc. of that age, Tamilakam should have been in SL, not TN and European colonialists would never have allowed Tamils into the island as it would defeat their divide and rule strategy (if SL had a sizable number of Tamils).

    None!

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      GATAM, when one makes a claim, it should be countered in intelligent and civilized manner, and not by hurling abuses and threats. By doing so Sinhala parliamentarians have demonstrated their poor breeding and inability to meet the proposition. What CVW said in parliament is exactly what I have written in this columns. Before making your comments, please update your knowledge about Tamil language. Tamil was first written in round letters (Vattelutthu) before taking present format. Telegu, Kannada and Malayalam which are off shoots of Tamil are using this Vatteluutthu. Sinhala which copied Malayalam script is also written in this Vattelutthu. There are several inscriptions in Tamil which have been found in Sri Lanka, the last one in Medagama few days ago by Prof. Somadeva. Brahmi inscriptions are written in Vattelutthu which is proto-Tamil, while those written in later Tamil script is designated Tamil Brahmi. Prof. Somadeva is intellectually dishonest to dismiss Tamil inscriptions without peer reviews. Discovery of several urn burial sites and potsherds similar to those found in Tamil Nadu proves that it was the same people who lived in both sides of the divide.

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        In sangam times there was a kingdom described as mountainous, with lush fields and beautiful girls, which appears to be lost, but the description fits the present Malayalam.
        I asked a Malayalee doctor whether the name Kerala was derived from Chera kingdom. He said in Malayalam coconut is called keram and since it was a land of coconut trees it was named Kerala. Recent excavations in Musiri Pattanam an ancient port city near Cochin, artifacts were excavated similar to those found in Keeladi in Tamil Nadu, signifying that it was the same people who lived in both places.

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          GS
          Could you please name the kingdom. (You can leave out the damsels.)
          *
          May I also know the earliest reference to coconut in Tamil literature?

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        Funny and poor logic Gana.

        Tamil Nadu language speakers do not have a nation to run as they please. All policy decisions of India are made by Hindis, all policy decisions of Sri Lanka are made by Sinhalese and all policy decisions of Malaysia are made by Malays. Tamil Nadu language speakers follow these policies.

        There is no evidence to show this was any different in the past. It was the same. Tamil Nadu language speakers had and has no nation of their own.

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        There are many interesting and informative comments to which I will add the following.

        Moggaliputta-Tiss of Tamil writing(script) is Tamil Brahmi or Tamili. Vatteluttu derived from Tamili around the fourth century AD. Vatteluttu and Pallava script were used in Tamilnadu during Pallava period. Pallava script was also derived from Tamili. Modern Tamil script derived more from Pallava script than Vatteluttu.

        The etymology for Words Devanampiya and Tissa by CVW is interesting. The words Devanampiya Piyadasi was used by Emperor Asoka to call himself where Devanampiya in Prakrit means ‘the beloved of God’ . The equivalent Sanskrit word is ‘Devanampriya’. In most Indian languages the word devanampriya or similar will bring out the same meaning. CVW’s interpretation in Tamil is ‘Devanai Nampiya’ which means the one who trusts God. Incidentally the word Deva in Sanskrit Is in Vedic literature. Indra is the king of Devas(higher beings) Sangam Tamil and post Sangam literature indicates that the early Cholas celebrated an annual festival in praise of Indra called Indra Vila.
        As for the word Tissa CVW interpreted the equivalent Tamil word as Theesan. Someone must explain this etymologically. The word Theesan is supposed to have derived from the Tamil word Thisai which in English means direction, in Sanskrit it is Disha, in Prakrit it is Disa.

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        GS
        “Tamil was first written in round letters (Vattelutthu) before taking present format.”
        NO
        Tamil was first written in Tamil Brahmi, followed by Vatteluththu.
        Modern Tamil script also owes much to the Grantha, developed for writing Sanskrit words in Tamil. Malayalam virtually adopted it wholly, but for minor changes. Sinhala made an elegant adaptation by rounding the letters.
        The scripts of Kannada and Telugu have very little to do with the Tamil script. (The Kannada script evolved from the 5th-century Kadamba script.)
        *
        Kannada unlike Malayalam, was not an offshoot of Tamil.
        For ease of access see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kannada:
        “The scholar Iravatham Mahadevan indicated that Kannada was already a language of rich oral tradition earlier than the 3rd century BCE, and based on the native Kannada words found in Prakrit inscriptions of that period, Kannada must have been spoken by a widespread and stable population.”
        *
        Kannada has much in common with Tamil, but not to suggest a Tamil origin.
        Telugu has even less in common with Tamil.
        *
        “Brahmi inscriptions are written in Vattelutthu which is proto-Tamil”
        This is absolute BS putting the cart before the horse.
        Brahmi refers to a script system preceding all writing systems that developed in India.
        *
        It is arrogant BS claims of greatness by Tamils that earns them enemies.

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    The claims are based on Tamilized Sinhala names!

    That can be done to anything but it doesn’t prove a thing.

    e.g. US city Okkalahoma can be easily Tamilised. But that does not prove it was Tamil.
    e.g. Thai-land can be easily Tamilised. But that does not prove it was Tamil.
    e.g. Tottenham can be easily Tamilised. But that does not prove it was Tamil.
    e.g. English name Nathan can be Tamilised. But that does not prove it was Tamil.
    e.g. Hebrew word “abba” can be easily Tamilised. But that does not prove it was Tamil.

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      GATAM can be “Tamilised (sic)” to GADAM
      an empty mud vessel that makes lots of noise

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        Rajesh can be Anglicized as Rubbish – waste.

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          Rajesh can be Anglicized as Rubbish – waste.
          That is another wasted statement from you

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      Tamilized Chingkalla names ! Thamizh is the mother and Chingkallam the daughter and around 40% of the Chingkalla vocabulary is Thamizh derived. This is a joke . The daughter is now telling everyone the mother resembles her when it is the other way around. You are an empty vessel ( Gadam) and a joker.

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      GATAM
      It is the other way around. The claims are based on Sinhalized Tamil names!
      Sinhala names are not unique to Sri Lanka, if you travel around India (from North to South and East to West), you can find 70% of the Sinhala names with a very slight variation.
      Old Sri Lanka (before Europeans arrived) has names which contain roots derived from Pali, Sanskrit, Prakrit, Tamil, Malayalam, and Telugu. Some of the crooked 20th century pseudo scholars took full advantage of the similarity between the two languages (Tamil & Sinhala) to play with words by twisting, turning, corrupting and creating very similar Sinhala names to convince the gullible Sinhala Buddhist majority that the original names were from Sinhala origin which the Tamils changed later.
      The Kings of Pandya Nadu/Pandu Rata were known as Sundara Pandya, Kulasekara Pandya, Chandrasekara Pandya, Parakrama Pandya, Vira Wickrama Pandya, Vira Pandya and so on.
      The Kings of Chola Nadu/Soli Rata were known as Uttama Chola, Kulothunga Chola, Vikrma Chola, Aditya Chola, Rajaraja Chola, Rajendra Chola, and so on.
      Today, you hardly find Tamils with such names but you may find Sinhalese with names like Kulasekara, Chandrasekara, Parakrama, Kulothunga, and so on.

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    C.V.Wigneswaran play with the belief system of the people.

    You believe what you want to belief.

    No scientific proof?

    Who came first?

    The Sinhalese? Tamils? Muslims? Veddas? Who came first? Does it matter?

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      It does NOT matter but have you seen how fans of a winning cricket team and a losing cricket team behave after the match? The winners don’t care a hoot and celebrate. The losers come up with crazy theories.

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      Yes! normally it would not matter. but when the the Sinhala Buddhists claim that they are the Fist Citizens of Srilanka and treat the Tamils as Second Class Citizens because of their numerical strength, some body has to call it a day.

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        It does not change anything. Order makers and order takers. That distinction remains.

        All policy decisions of India are made by Hindis, all policy decisions of Sri Lanka are made by Sinhalese and all policy decisions of Malaysia are made by Malays. Tamil Nadu language speakers follow these policies in all these countries. (It does not mean these policies are better.)

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          G
          “All policy decisions of India are made by Hindis, all policy decisions of Sri Lanka are made by Sinhalese and all policy decisions of Malaysia are made by Malays.”
          Are you sure?
          I would have thought that US imperialism comes in somewhere in their decision making.

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    This is beyond the imagination of any sane person to expect such dumb thoughts from no other person than from a man who reached the very top of the judiciary of Srilanka. One simply cannot live in the past but must adopt and adapt to the realities of the present day world. There is no argument or doubt that Tamils and their culture is sophisticated indeed which crucially is closely integrated with the Sinhala. Indirectly it provides a perspective view of the pathetic turn the judiciary itself has taken to be what it is today. Please Sir, do please open up your eyes and try and find a middle ground. All of the Singhalese are not bigoted.

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      It is called inferiority complex. Despite climbing to the top of his legal profession, he had to take orders (and laws) from the Sinhalese (and some of them were uneducated). Imagine the frustration! We all know what happens to even the most senior government workers when they do not do what is instructed to them by politicians.

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    Mr Wigi,
    please kindly add your links where you got your source of info from. Just repeating that tamil is the langague of the original inhabitants cant bring us forward. You sound to be almsot like our SKIN HEADs ( so called buddhgama monks – I am afraid, I dont call them buddhist monks) that make every effort to divide this nation yet today. If you think twice, I dont think you would repeat this. What is timeworthy to keep everyone’s mind calm and quiet if we work for permament peace in this country.

    I dont feel like you are lying but please add your links so that the READERs can study them before jumping on to abusive comments being emotional.

    However, one thing is clear to me, is you the kind of men would nt support to so called ” peace and reconciliation” but make it worst. What can we the young generations learn from you ? You are believed to be an edcuated candidate who did almost nothing but behaved like ” pora kukula (jungle fowl) in the bunch of so called tamil politicians.

    Please follow it from SA and study them before trying to create further divisions- that can help all srilankens regardless of their race, religion or whatever the other factors that keep them apart.

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    History or wrong interpretations of history along with strongly believed mythology has played and continues to play a very significant role in contemporary politics in Sri Lanka. There are several ideological myths, fantasies, superstitions and fables in our belief (coming from history) that are well established among the Sri Lankan society and nobody (including academics/scholars/intellects) dares to challenge them because the majority of the population out of ignorance and innocence (not capable of distinguishing myth from truth) cling onto the myths and refuse to move in any progressive direction or even prepared for self-ruination rather than re-writing the myth. When a historical Myth is engraved into the minds of the people as truth and when the community believes it as gospel, no historian/archaeologist/anthropologist will dare to say anything against it in public. If any historian/scholar tries to undo such Myths, he/she will be considered an unpatriotic traitor or an Anti-nationalist, the main reason why you won’t find any kind of myths analyzed in historical sites. We have to simply leave them remain in the realm of belief in our society that can only be debated among a few rational minded individuals. CVW openly challenging the myths, fallacies, fictions, concoctions and lies that our majority Sinhala-Buddhist society believes as gospel, unchallenged for thousands of years is the reason why he gets threatened.
    Continued…

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      For example, voluminous material is available about Buddha’s life, his travels and teachings, from the time of his enlightenment whereas his three magical trips to Sri Lanka is not known even to his closest disciple Ananda Thero. The worst part is, in his first visit to Mahiyangane where Yakkhas lived, the Buddha did not try to win them over by his compassion but struck terror to their hearts by rain, storm, darkness and so forth. The yakkhas, overwhelmed by fear, begged him to release them from terror and fear. In the Mahavamsa, the Buddha seems to have taken on a character which the original Buddha scriptures would not have recognized.
      Dr.G.C.Mendis who examined the historicity of Mahavamsa says there is no reference in Canonical literature to Buddha having left his usual routine in the Gangetic kingdoms. Buddha’s 3 visits were folk/fairy tales concocted by the Mahavihara monks (including Ven. Mahanama) and their ulterior motives are very obvious.
      Another Myth in Pali chronicles is the Lion flag brought to the island by prince Vijaya when he arrived with 700 men on the same day that Buddha passed away. It says that he planted the flag he was carrying with the lion symbol, on the soil of Sri Lanka. It is nothing but to establish Vijay’s Lion story (myth) and to connect the Sinhalese to Sinhabahu (Lion) of Sinhapura.
      Continued…

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        However, the present day lion on the Sri Lankan flag does not resemble any of the lion motifs from Sri Lanka’s history. The sword bearing lion flag is clearly a design inspired by European heraldic lions. Please read http://karava.org/royal_symbols/the_lion_myth for more details.
        Another Myth in Pali chronicles is, while Duttugemunu was tormented by the countless deaths resulting from his battles, the partially enlightened Buddhist monks (Arahant) consoled him by assuring him that ‘If a person kills a non-Buddhist, he has not killed a human being and therefore should have no remorse’. The Mahavamsa justifies the killing of sixty thousand Tamils by DutuGemunu to a mere one and a half human, indicating that it is no crime in killing thousands of non-Buddhists. Tamils who did not belong to the ‘Buddhasasana’ were regarded as ‘micchaditthi’ (wrong believers), and ‘dussila’ (evil doers) and ‘passuma’ (like beasts). These mythical words of the ‘Buddhist Arahant monks’ of Sri Lanka, one can see, appear to be still guiding the Sinhala-Buddhists. From a very young age, the innocent Sinhala Buddhist children are brainwashed by engraving the Mahavamsa mindset into their sub-conscious minds. Due to the above conditioning, the Sinhala-Buddhist majority believes that the entire Sri Lanka belongs to them and the Tamils are historical enemies or invaders from outside.

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    Wiggi
    May I ask something logical from you? If Tails were original inhabitants of this island, why were they remained in a tiny land which has less fresh water, infertile rather than occupying in fertile land where rivers meandering? Are you going to say they had tiny brains, short legs and short eye-sight. So you are saying Tamils left all good lands for Sinhalese to occupy. Could you understand from your tiny tiny brain that original Sinhalese occupied land new rivers and water bodies and the barren land were occupied by people who came later. Also as per your argument, India’s original inhabitants were Tamils as Tamil is the oldest language. Tell that to Hindus, and they will hang Tamils in from their round utensils. Stop this BS talks, Try to find something from history to unite people, not to divide them. No wonder GR go for 20th Amendment. As long as people like Wiggi lives, I support Sinhalese autocratic leaders.

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      Atu,
      The very first kingdom in Sri Lanka for several centuries was the Northern Kingdom of Anuradapura (and later the Cholas moved it to the East, Polanaruwa). The Sri Lankan civilization started from the least arable, most inhospitable and infertile northern part of the island (Anuradapura/Rajarata). The rivers and the lush vegetation in the South was a thick jungle when they established the Northern kingdom of Anuradapura.
      Elara ruled the Northern kingdom of Anuradapura for 44 years. During the same period, Dutugemunu’s father King Kavantissa ruled the Southern kingdom of Rohana. Both these kingdoms were separated by the river. Kavantissa, the king of Rohana (Kingdom in Southern Sri Lanka) tells Dutugemunu not to invade the Northern territory (Rajarata), the land of the Damilas. He says, Rohana the region on this side of the river (Southern territory) has enough land. There is evidence in the Mahavamsa that the Northern territory (Rajarata) was occupied by the Tamils even before Dutugemunu. It also says, Dutugemunu had to conquer not just one Tamil king (Elara) but 32 Tamil Chieftains around the Northern territory (Anuradhapura principality). Sixty thousand Tamils got killed in the Elara-Dutugemunu war. Why the Tamil kings (invaders or whatever you call them) ruled only the Northern territory (Rajarata) and NOT the Southern territory (Rohana)? Read your own history, King Kavantissa gives the answer very clearly.

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        LC
        Your explanation also does not make any sense. If Tamils were there before, what happened to their population growth. Have the used some sort of pills. So they passively waited Sinhalese to occupy a bigger fertile land and come an attack you. More logical explanation is that Sinhalese were there before and less populated less valuable land was later occupied by Tamils came from nearby India and Sinhalese kings attached them as there would be a threat to them in the future. No one knows what really happened. However, someone explains it unscientifically, one has to answer it. That is what I am doing. I don’t care who came first. What matters is the current situation and the future. Future of Tamils in Sri Lanka is bleak, unless their way of thinking is changed. Unless Tamils join Sinhalese and live together as one nation, the structural changes will wipe out their cultural identities and nothing will be left to celebrate or be proud of. It is sad but Tamils themselves blame for this.

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          Not “attached”, it is “attacked”

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          Atu,
          I can understand your puzzle. If Tamils and Veddas were there from ancient period, what happened to their population growth? Before the European Colonials invaded Sri Lanka, the island was divided into 3 kingdoms. The Kandy kingdom where the up-country Sinhalese were the majority, the Jaffna kingdom where the Sri Lankan Tamils were the majority and the Kotte kingdom where the low-country Sinhalese were the majority. In 1833, the British united the Tamil North to the Sinhala South (up-country & low-country) as one state for their convenience in administration thereby reducing the Tamils to a minority. Even before the British left in 1948, the up-country Kandyan Sinhalese suggested to the British on two different occasions that Sri Lanka should have a federal structure divided into three areas: the Central, the South/West and the North/East, but it was the Tamil leaders who rejected it because they had a different (foolish) agenda (whole country with 50:50 and so on).
          Coming back to your puzzle, there is enough of evidence to prove that the Sinhalese became a numerical majority only after assimilating with the South Indians who were brought and settled in the South by the Portuguese and the Dutch as labor.
          Continued…

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            The Sinhalese became a numerical majority only after the European Colonials came to Sri Lanka. In the 16th century, the Portuguese and in the 18th century, the Dutch who occupied the island brought in tens of thousands of laborers/coolies from South India (mainly from Cochin/Kochi in the Malabar coast and from Tutucorin/Thootukudy in the Coromandel Coast) and settled them in the Southern parts of the island from Puttalama up to Matara as laborers (for growing/peeling cinnamon, for fishing/pearl diving, coconut planting/plucking and toddy tapping, and for many other jobs). Within a few centuries, the Sinhala population in the South increased exponentially when these people assimilated with the local Sinhala population (Sinhalized) by adopting the Sinhala language/culture and the Buddhist/Christian religion and getting converted to Sinhala Buddhists and Sinhala Catholics.

            Professor of Anthropology Gananath Obeyesekere (in his book “Buddhism, Ethnicity, and Identity,”) states that “viewed in long term historical perspective Sinhalas have been for the most part South Indian migrants who have been sasanized,” that is, either having been converted to Buddhism or having come under the umbrella of the Buddhist “church” (śāsana). Obeyesekere further describes (in his book) a ritual that allows the “naturalization” of Tamils into the Sinhalese community.
            Continued…

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              Continued from above…
              Dr. Paul E. Pieris has published extracts from the Portuguese tombo records which gives the original names of the present day Sinhalese with Portuguese surnames before their conversion to Christianity and Buddhism. Dr. Pieris states: the names deserve special attention, the majority appear to have been converted to Sinhalese and adopted European Surnames names. For example, Fernando being the most popular surname, but their native names were also mentioned among them being the following: Vira Cutti, Parama Cutti, Nila Cutti, Nahepulle, Avepulle, and so on. These point to recent South Indian origin.
              Professor K.M. de Silva in his book `A History of Sri Lanka`, refers to the migration of the Karawe, Salagama, and Durawe castes from Southern India to Sri Lanka between the 14th and 17th centuries AD. (Refer “History of Sri Lanka” by K.M.de Silva, University of California Press, 1981 page 81).

              Also refer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMbhLoJWXs0 for more details.

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    Why are the Sinhalese not happy of about Tamil Buddhists. I s it because they came to Srilanka before them? Or is it that they are selfish even with regard to Buddhism? it appears that they do not want any other linguistic groups to be Buddhist in Srilanka. What are they going to do with the Chinese Buddhists who are slowly but steadily flooding Srilanka? I wonder whether the Chinese Buddhists too worship the Hindu gods like Pillaiyar ( ganadeio) and follow some of the rituals followed by Hindus?
    Why can’t the Sinhalese co-operate with the Tamils and allow them to lead a life of their own? What is the real problem they have with the Tamils. Instead of ‘capturing’ the Hindu temples like Kathirkamam and other temples in the North and East and make it a Buddha’s Sanctuary ,why don’t they just worship the Hindu gods and be happy with it. After all Buddha was an agnostic and did not support any religion or pray to any god. Follow him without adding your own thoughts( pepper and salt) on his teachings and ‘kill’ his beautiful teachings. Oh lord! please come back to life,( after all you believe in rebirths) and guide the Sinhalese Buddhist to lead a life of good will. Let not the hamudrus dictate to politicians.

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      I don’t think they (Sinhalese) are unhappy with any such thing. They rule and ruled Sri Lanka. Period.

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      The Sinhalese are suspicious of the claim that Tamil Buddhists were here before Buddhism arrive with Mahinda.
      What worsens the suspicion is that some Tamil nationalists who hitherto clung on to a Saiva Tamil identity are now claiming early origins for Buddhism among Tamils in the North.
      Tamil Buddhists from Sri Lanka partook in discussion on Buddhism in South India. There is ample evidence of activity in the Christian era. date for pre-Christian years need to be ascertained.
      Buddhism among Tamils could have taken land routes from its sources to South India. But it was a mass religion with little state sponsorship. Ancient Jain and Buddhist sites including small ‘dagobas’ have been unearthed recently. They need to be dated scientifically.
      *
      Tamils can be proud of the contribution of Tamil to Buddhism and that of Buddhism to moral values of the Tamils.
      Should these not bring the Sinhalese and Tamils closer?
      Some of the claimants use hostile language in their comments. That is bad.
      Tamils missed the opportunity to have a very progressive faith among them. That is sad.
      The Sinhalese, on the other hand, could do well with not claiming that everything Buddhist here is Sinhala, and have an open mind on the subject. They should beware of mischief makers posing as experts of history.

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    As far as anyone is concerned Tamil is one of the ancient holy sacred languages on this wonderful planet whilst –
    =
    Sinhala is a Sanskrit off-shot a bastard lingo spoken only in this sad sorry shitty land and in which the inhabitants cannot themselves do so properly.
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    Therefore in a sweet short bye and a by the ZDSTamil language is undisputed never to be conquered
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    THE ONLY ASSETS THE YAKS HAVE ARE THEIR LADIES, I PREFER THEM ANY DAY OR TIME TO MY CASTE CREED OR RELIGION.

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      RJ1952
      There is nothing particularly ‘holy’ or ‘sacred’ in early Sangam literature, reputedly the oldest Tamil literature.
      It is chiefly about love and war (including bravery etc.), beautiful poetry though.
      Siva and Vishnu were latecomers.
      Religious philosophy even later.
      A vast majority of Tamil words have sources Sanskrit and Prakrits.
      *
      It is a most bastardized language that rules much of the world. And even Tamil purists shamelessly fall at its feet. That bastard language, in which we communicate now, is penetrating Tamil in Tamilnadu much faster than Sanskrit ever did.

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        BTW
        Sinhala descended from a Prakrit, not Sanskrit.

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    After a very long and bitter experience during the past four decades, it looks like everything is falling back to square one (the 1956 – 1972 era) again. Both sides have never learnt any lessons. With CVW in parliament, it looks like SJV Chelva and Amirthalingam period. The Tamils may have to seek India’s help again in solving the national problem. This time it is Modi who is not so interested in Tamils but very much interested in Hindus. If the Sinhalese leaders can play the Sinhala-Buddhist card, then the Tamil leaders like CVW should start playing the Tamil Hindu card, the only way to involve Modi/India into this and to retain at least the Indo-Lanka agreement. Not only Wigneswaran but all the Tamil politicians and the entire Tamil community should rise and protest. The Non-Violent Direct Action exemplified several decades ago by the Civil Rights Movement under Martin Luther King in the USA is a very practical technique which is relevant to the Tamil people.

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      LC
      ” With CVW in parliament, it looks like SJV Chelva and Amirthalingam period.”
      Be serious.
      SJV was measured in his words. AA despite emotional outbursts on party platforms, was fairly sober on Parliamentary matters.
      *
      “…Tamil leaders like CVW should start playing the Tamil Hindu card, the only way to involve Modi/India into this and to retain at least the Indo-Lanka agreement.”
      CVW tried to charm Modi when he was first elected PM in 2014. Even Sivajilingam tried wooinh theBJP.
      Modi knows where Hindutva sells and where it does not.
      Overplaying the Hindu card will antagonize the entire Christian community.

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    Wiggy:
    You admit you spent your early life near a Sohona. That explains why you followed Premananda – the evil maniac who was convicted of serially raping under-aged orphan girls in his Ashram and committing a murder – as your Guru. You even described him as a “very close friend,” and made representation to Modi seeking the release of 4 other convicts in the case. How dare you invoke the names of J. Krishnamurti and E.W. Adikaram. You must be ashamed of yourself. As you say, you have already riled up Fonseka and Weerasekera. (You also seem to be relishing that.) Now with this piece you are sure to push the not-too-bright Rajapaksas and the deranged monks over the edge. Today they got Mangala summoned before the CID for saying Sri Lanka is not a Buddhist country, but a country for all Sri Lankans. You can bet you’ll be summoned next. But Mangala can be proud of what he said. He was speaking against the rising tide of virulent Sinhala-Buddhist racism in the country. He did the right thing. He believes in pluralism. In contrast, your various statements are calculated precisely to feed that tide of racism. They appear carefully calibrated to inflame and incite violence.

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      [Contd. from above].
      .
      Your excuses for making such hateful statements are disingenuous and childish. You’re as racist as those you’re criticising. You deserve to be summoned by the CID. And I think that’s what you desperately want.

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    A good example is Polanaruwa.
    Polanaruwa that My3 claim to be the owner of…..
    ….is in fact a Tamil City during Chola times

    The name Polonnaruwa is of unknown origin and was adopted by the traveller James Emerson Tennent.[3] Its Tamil form, Pulainari, is mentioned in Tamil inscriptions found at Polonnaruwa of the Chola period.[4] The name was perhaps a contraction of its ancient name Pulastya nagara or Pulatti nakaram meaning city of the Hindu sage Pulastya.[5][6]

    It was renamed under Chola rule as Jananathapuram or Jananathamangalam.[7][8] The place was later known as Vijayarajapuram as mentioned in the records of Jayabahu I, which probably was derived from the name of Vijayabah

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonnaruwa

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      Rajash
      .
      unknown origin….mentioned….perhaps…as mentioned…probably
      .
      Well that proves it.

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      Rajash,
      According to documents and maps found in Netherlands, almost all names in Yapa Patuna (Jaffna) were Sinhala. ‘Para’ Dravida slaves who were brought from Hindusthan by Portuguese and dumped in Yapa Patuna ‘Demalized’ those Sinhala names.
      Source: http://www.jaffnahistory.com/Place_Names.html

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        Stanley “Well that proves it.”
        Perhaps not

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        Eagle Brain Dead Blind Eye

        “Source: http://www.jaffnahistory.com/Place_Names.html

        Oh this was a great source of information for “Off the Cuff” another man who was lost in his own thoughts, never couldn’t support his typing with original source.
        By any chance you are his new avatar?

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        Eagle Eye – Source: http://www.jaffnahistory.com/Place_Names.html.
        ———–

        This website is being built by the Arachnological Task Force set up by Gota.

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          Rajash

          “This website is being built by the Arachnological Task Force set up by Gota.”

          Actually this website was built by Champika Ranawake’s forefathers many millennia ago who discovered ZERO, spoke second oldest living language, experts plastic surgeons and Gene editors, ……….

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      Chola times in SL lasted only 77 years. It ended in 1070AD and all Tamil Nadu language speakers were subjected to what is known as absolute genocide by the army of King Vijayabahu the Great according to Kannada, SL, Burmese and TN historical documents. His grand plans also included doing same in Burma. His grandson achieved it.

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        Opportunistic racist , who at one time was pretending to be a moderate to get Tamils and Tamil Muslims to vote for Sajith, who is another opportunistic racist , like most Sinhalese politicians. There is no such language called Tamil Nadu language or Andhra Nadu language or even Sri Lankan language. It is Tamil language that is native to Tamil Nadu and to the north and east and parts of north western Sri Lanka. What you and other Sinhalese racists are now cunningly are trying to imply, is that Tamil only belongs to India ( Tamil Nadu ) and not to Sri Lanka so are now trying rename the Tamil language as Tamil Nadu language. Any idiot can see through the bigoted genocidal mindset.

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          King Vijayabahu committed genocide on Tamils? Please quote when and where and from which history book is this fairy tale coming from. None of the ancient kings in the island be they during the common era or later as Sinhalese or Tamil kings, ever committed genocide on any population. They may have fought wars and killed each other but never committed genocide , ethnic cleansing or destroyed either Hindu or Buddhist places of worship . Stop posting rubbish . It is only after independence , Sinhalese Buddhist and now Catholic racists armed with power given to them by the British have started to commit genocide on the island’s Tamils and justify this with fake history. You are one of them.

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    Who cares whether Tamil of Sinhala came first to Sri Lanka?
    the past is another country.
    While the US invasion of Sri Lanka is on-going with burning ships and oil slicks in the Indian Ocean and various foreign experts in the east coast, why are we DIVIDING and distracting ourselves with this absurd arguments?!
    Also, the Ravana story is another Tamil-SInhala nationalist fantasy to attack Muslims.
    Sri Lankans should stay united and alert in this time of hybrid new Cold War between US and its proxy India and QUAD against China to destroy the rise of Asian Economies.
    Enough of WIgies bullshit -seems to be following the CIA weaponization of Ethno-religious identity politics in Sri Lanka to divide us at this dangerous time with the global Covid-19 bio war and cyber war on going.

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      We care as this is our land , history and monuments that are being stolen. All this arose because you Chingkallams are trying to use state power and fake history to steal Thamizh lands , history and monuments in the north and east . Falsely state that the Eezham Thamizh are outsiders who do not belong and make the entire island Chingkalla Buddhist. You want the Thamizh to shut up and accept your fake version of history and assimilate as Chingkallams or migrate, just because you won the war 10 years ago with the help of India , USA, China, Porkistan , and everyone, giving everyone false promises once stubborn Prapakaran is defeated Thamizh rights will be given . Now most of the world including India and the west know that you are bunch of liars , who will say anything to get what you want and then do not honour your promises or word. You expect the Thamizh to keep quiet? Vigneswaran is very learned and is fighting back unlike the Samsum duo who were just rolling over to every Chingkalla and Thulluka demand and begging for crumbs and even not getting that.

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    ‘Tamil Is The Language Of The Original Inhabitants Of This Island’
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    What an idiotic comment. As the original inhabitants came from Africa they hardly likely to have spoken Tamil.

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      Stanley, it should be ” Tamil is the language of the original inhabitants of northern and western parts of the country”. From stone and iron tools found in caves in Sri Lanka similar to those found in Africa, it is said that Veddhas were descendants of Africans who are there for 60,000 years or more and had their own dialect. But Veddhas lived in caves along mountain slopes of central parts and after commencing chena cultivation about 15,000 years ago moved to eastern and southern plains. All artifacts related to Veddhas are found in these areas only. So Veddhas are original inhabitants of central, eastern and southern parts of Sri Lanka only and not the entire island. Next migration took place over 20,000 years ago by people who settled down in northern and western parts of the island. Discovery of several urn burial sites and potsherds similar to those found in Tamil Nadu proves that they are the same people who lived in both sides. It is said that they spoke Elu (Sanskritized to Hela) which is considered by linguists as proto-Tamil and also Tamil. This is why Vijaya and his friends, Kuweni and her people and Pandyan brides were able to communicate with each other. (CONTD)

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        There is no evidence to prove any Tamil Nadu language speakers’ presence in the island at that time.

        (May be they were Tamils after all and they later evolved to become a far superior and graceful race called Sinhalese. Who knows!)

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          What is Tamil Nadu language ? Sinhalese ? I have heard of Tamil language not Tamil Nadu language. Is this a new name given to the Tamil language by the present war criminal Sri Lankan government and their Sinhalese racist supporters like you to imply Tamil only belongs to India and not to the island. Keep on trying racist but it will not work. Pathetic creature

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      Stanley

      “As the original inhabitants came from Africa they hardly likely to have spoken Tamil.”

      Please watch this clip
      CAMEROONIANS SPEAK TAMIL LANGUAGE—( AFRICA PEOPLES )
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehhtOEjJvkM&ab_channel=TAMILOXYGEN

      What do you say to this “documentary”?

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      Stanley

      “As the original inhabitants came from Africa they hardly likely to have spoken Tamil.”

      Please watch this clip
      CAMEROONIANS SPEAK TAMIL LANGUAGE—( AFRICA PEOPLES )
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehhtOEjJvkM&ab_channel=TAMILOXYGEN

      What do you say to this “documentary”?

      Don’t forget the first ape also spoke Tamil and practiced Tamil/Saivam.

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        “Don’t forget the first ape also spoke Tamil and practiced Tamil/Saivam.”

        Even now most of the Apes in Tamil Nadu and Jaffna still speak the same..

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          RAVI PERERA
          the Sinhala speaking Demela

          “Even now most of the Apes in Tamil Nadu and Jaffna still speak the same..”

          Ashamed of being branded Apes you chose to convert to Sinhala/Buddhism. According to Ramayana many Monkey warriors came to this island from South India and there is no literary evidence to suggest they ever returned to Thamilaham as they have been converted to Sinhala/Buddhism over the past 5000 years. Do you think your family too?

          Either your family must be early converts or followers of latter day public racist Anagarika Homeless Dharmapala’s .

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        There you are! Tamils are modern Africans. Good find NV. You have found the Tamil homeland.

        Why fight over this.

        Here is my theory that is built upon Wiggy’s theory.

        1. Tamils inhabited SL long time ago.
        2. They were a highly innovative people constantly improving.
        3. They evolved into a far superior and graceful race in the island and called themselves Sinhalese.
        4. Meanwhile Nadu Tamils continued as Tamils and continued to use their Dravidian language.

        Happy?

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        I’d say “Uṅkaḷ ārāycci eppōtum eṉṉai īrkkiṟatu”

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          Stanley

          ““Uṅkaḷ ārāycci eppōtum eṉṉai īrkkiṟatu”

          Thanks.
          Take it easy man, you can convey your message in any one of the three officially recognised Sri Lankan languages.

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        Stanley
        Tamil was a spoken language for several millennia (thousands of years) before it was put to writing and is one of the ancient living languages in the world.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3epa83tBDk

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      Stop being idiotic. Yes the out of African humans would have hardly spoken Tamil , Chinese, Sanskrit, Greek , Hebrew , Latin , Germanic or any other language and we all know that . These evolved much later, however by the time the migrants arrived in the island the language spoken was Tamil or form or semi or proto Tamil. The Vedda dialect as probably did the old Sinhala approaches far closer to Tamil than modern Sinhala in its pronunciation”. (Hugh Neville. p.88.) The Vedda dialect, their spoken language is identical with Elu which was the spoken language of ancient Sri Lanka, which is semi-Tamil; as to the grammatical structure it is essentially Dravidian and simple (Emaneau, M.B 1961). Examples
      Vedda dialect – meanings in Elu & Tamil
      Muruwn in Elu dialect denotes ananku the ancient Indian god Mrugan.
      Iyaka, Iya arrow. kanu, vellu in Tamil
      Kur spike as in Tamil
      Ira pojja sun. iravi in Tamil.
      Neya Yakūn kindred spirit, neya is friendly in Tamil
      Taraka star, taraki in Tamil
      Appa father, same as in Tamil
      Elam young, same as in Tamil
      Appa father, same as in Tamil
      The above similarities and other evidences are far too numerous to be considered as coincidences. Names of Vedda .The names Kanta, Vēlan, Valli, were common among the Veddas while the names of other gods in Hindu Pantheon were unknown to them.

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        Taraka star, taraki in Tamil
        Appa father, same as in Tamil
        Elam young, same as in Tamil
        Appa father, same as in Tamil
        The above similarities and other evidences are far too numerous to be considered as coincidences. Names of Vedda .The names Kanta, Vēlan, Valli, were common among the Veddas while the names of other gods in Hindu Pantheon were unknown to them. Whence came these names designating the deity Murukan and his Vedda consort? Not from contact with or contiguity of the surrounding the Non-Vedda people of Ceylon in whose neighborhood they have lived for centuries.

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    Mr.Wigneswaran,
    “Tamil Is The Language Of The Original Inhabitants Of This Island”

    So What?

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      Mahindapala, since Tamil is the first language to be used for communication since pre-historic times it should be made the first official language and Sinhala which evolved much later from Tamil as base should be the second official language. Your veeraya Somadeva is digging for ten years to prove that Sinhalese were there before Tamils, when two DNA studies showed that core genetic material of Sinhalese is south Indian.

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        Absolutely not Gana.

        Those Tamils evolved further and became Sinhalese. Why go backwards?

        If Sinhalese came from Gujarat, Belgal, Sindh, Kerala, Tamil Nadu or elsewhere, they must speak the language of those places. But they don’t.

        Sinhalese are highly evolved Tamils.

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      Eagle Brain Dead Blind Eye

      “So What?”

      Did you really understand the meaning of “So What?”

      It also means “you don’t care”, very rude.
      If you don’t care why the hell did you respond?

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        Native (Fake) Vedda,
        Whether I respond or not is my business. You mind your far king business.

        “If you don’t care why the hell did you respond?”

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          Eagle Brain Dead Blind Eye

          ““If you don’t care why the hell did you respond?”

          Sorry I was expecting a rational explanation from a utterly irrational good for nothing bigoted ……………………..
          However I welcome whatever you type partly because its fun, partly because CT readers must know this island is not only capable of producing Eminent Learned people like Gananath Obeyesekere, R A L H Gunawardana, C E Godakumbura, …….. C. W. W. Kannangara, old codger, Spring Koha, …………. but also unfortunately capable of producing racist, bigots, stupids, …………… like you, Mahindapala, Ganapathipilla, Weerawansa, Anagarika, ………………..crooks and war criminals.

          Isn’t life all about?

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      There was NO Buddhism in Sri Lanka until Emperor Asoka’s missionary monks led by Mahinda Thero converted the Saivaite (Tamil) King Muta Siva’s second son Thissa (brother of Maha Siva) to Buddhism in the 2nd century BC. Pali Chronicles, early inscriptions and ancient artifacts (archeological excavations) proves that Only Saivaism (devotees of Lord Siva) and Jainism (devotees of Mahavira) were prevailing in the Island Lanka and the ancient rulers of Sri Lanka were Saivaites before Buddhism arrived.
      The famous Sinhala Historian Dr.Paul E.Pieris who declared at a meeting of the Royal Asiatic Society that:
      “Long before the arrival of Vijaya there was in Lanka five recognized Ishwarams of Siva (Siva temples). These were Thiruketheeshwaram which was near Mahatittha, Muneshwaram dominating Salawatte and the pearl fishery, Thondeshwaram near Mantota, ThiruKoneshwaram near the great Bay of Kottiyar and Naguleshwaram near Kankesanturai “.

      Even today, if they dig/excavate deep in any part of Sri Lanka, the archeology department could find only Statues of Siva. The Pali chronicles leave us in no doubt that the worship of Siva was prevalent in Anuradhapura and elsewhere in the island.
      Continued…

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        The recent discoveries of Siva temples and Saivate villages buried in the Anuradapura area are further proof that the island was originally occupied by Saivate/Hindus in the ancient past.
        Even Ravana, the mythical king of Lanka was believed to be a strong devotee of Lord Siva who worshipped at the Koneswaram temple. Sri Pada or Sivan Oli Pada Malai (Mountain of Siva’s Light Foot) has been a place of veneration for Saivate Tamils for two millennia or more. Ptolomey’s Tabrobana map that precedes Mahavamsa (Mahanama Thero) by three centuries had indexed the Adam’s Peak as Oli Pada (derived from the Tamil word Sivan Oli Pada) which indicates the historical antiquity of this mountain as one of ancient places of Siva worship.
        The numerous occurrences of the personal name Siva in the early Brahmi inscriptions also support this. The names Muta-Siva (elder Siva), Maha-Siva (big Siva) and Giri-KandaSiva (KandaSamy) have very clear meaning in Tamil. Could anyone give us the Sinhala meaning of these names?

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    Among Sinhalayo there is a saying ‘Aada Nethi Walata Kanaya Pandithaya’. This applies very well to Wigneswaran.

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      Not only Wigneswaran, applies well to Pissu dostara Gnana too

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        RAVI PERERA
        the Sinhala Speaking Demela

        “Not only Wigneswaran, applies well to Pissu dostara Gnana too”

        Is it Dr Gunadasa Amarasekara, Dr Nalin de Silva or Saffron Gnanasara.
        There are too many pissu dostara in Sri Lanka, make sure you quote the right one.

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          “is it Dr Gunadasa Amarasekara, Dr Nalin de Silva or Saffron Gnanasara.
          There are too many pissu dostara in Sri Lanka, make sure you quote the right one.”

          Biggest one is the one I refered to. Now you do not get excited , since you are the biggest refugee dostara

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    It would cause great distress to Tamils in Sri Lanka to read this writer’s article. That is because it is like rubbing salt in a wound. The Tamils have been beleaguered and put under massive pressure by govt and rebel forces at the same time for 30 years. And now this harping about they having come first, and being treated like second class citizens. I don’t think CVW is doing the Tamils any good by writing these articles.

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      Lasantha Pethiyagoda

      “And now this harping about they having come first, and being treated like second class citizens. I don’t think CVW is doing the Tamils any good by writing these articles.”

      What’s wrong with Aiyo Wigneshwaran’s article given that they nothing more to lose?

      As you know the Rana Viruses are occupying their land, more and more lands targeted by Rana Viruses to be taken over, the people under occupation does not seem to enjoy privacy, Saffron brigades have begun a new practices of cremating their dead saffron elders within Hindu temple campuses, Senior Rana Virus Sarath had declared under his watch being the minister responsible for provincial council will never allow 13th Amendment in the constitution, Dinesh believes Wiggy’s parliamentary speeches should be removed from Parliament reports, Gota said this is Sinhala/Buddhist country, Mahinda wants to ban cattle slaughter however he would allow the importation of beef from abroad, ………………. there are million and one unnecessarily created issues that minorities are being forced face, …

      Can you not see accumulated problems created by the ruling thugs since 1948?

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    Although a Judge, this man cannot understand the difference between settlements of Native people in their Native land and settlements of ‘Para’ invaders in occupied land.

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      Eagle Brain Dead Blind Eye

      “Although a Judge, this man cannot understand the difference between settlements of Native people in their Native land and settlements of ‘Para’ invaders in occupied land.”

      I am not a judge however I know the difference between Native people in our Native land and settlements of kallathonie ‘Para’ invaders in occupied land.

      When can you leave?

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    According to the Britannica, singhalese language was introduced around 5 century BC. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Sinhalese-language

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      And Tamil Nadu language was introduced in 1987 AD.

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      Encyclopedia Britannica should now update, not stubbornly keep on posting old garbage , that everyone knows is outdated . No wonder no one now refers to this outdated garbage it posts. It still thinks the Britain and the British empire rules the world and whites Aryans are superior , followed by brown Aryans. The British only created all this problems for the Eelam Tamils and the Tamils should sue them for what they did. Now they are sitting mum and favouring all these Sinhalese war criminals. Sinhalese language was never introduced as no one spoke Sinhalese anywhere. If Encyclopedia Britannica is posting this nonsense it is a blatant lie.

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        Sinhalese gradually evolved in the island , after the introduction of Buddhism . It only came into exitance around the 7Th century AD. It is a mixture of Tamil, or its local variant that was spoken in the island ( Elu) with the Pali or Prakrit that came with Buddhism. It was later deliberately Sanskritized in the 1900s to prove it is close to Hindi and other Indo Aryan languages of North India. Sinhalese has a very strong Tamil or Dravidian foundation on which a Indo Aryan super structure has been built. This is a fact. Even now a minimum of 35% Sinhalese vocabulary is derived from Tamil and its grammar and alphabet is purely derived from Tamil. The Sinhalese culture , music, food , festivals are all , taken from the Tamils. Everything about the Sinhalese reeks of Tamils and India;s two southern states. Tamil Nadu and Kerala , which was Tamil a few centuries ago. North North India or Bengal or any other Indian state.

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          “Sinhalese gradually evolved in the island , after the introduction of Buddhism . It only came into exitance around the 7Th century AD”

          Sinhalese evolved from original hela tribes. Wether present day sinhala came into existence in the 7th centiry AD or not is immaterial. It is the same people at a different stage of the journey of evolution

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            Rotten Pear Hela is the Prakritzed version of the Thamizh work Elu or Eezham . Whenever Dravidian or Thamizh gets Prakritized an H or B comes in front of the original Thamizh word or interchanges . Go and look at the Kannada language with the number of Hs and Bs . Eg: Thamizh Paal ( Milk) becomes Haalu in Kannada. This is well known fact

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eelam

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              Kutti thanbi,

              According to you Tamils the rest of the south Indian states as well as North India were Tamils . You can believe any rubbish you want,
              You fellows have been defeated man, just accept it.

              By the Way University of Madras takes the view that Eelam was derived from Sinhala

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                Yes still keep on quoting out dated articles that were written in 1924. during the height of White British Aryan racism , when everything remotely connected to Aryan or white is superior. Just like Tamil was derived from Sanskrit and Sanskrit is superior . Aryans civilized India. Now all these theories have been debunked and proven to be wrong , yet Sinhalese racist , especially the recently Sinhalized immigrant South Indian low castes like you love to keep on quoting to prove your Mahavamsa myth. Stop making a fool of yourself. Some one here calls you a rotten pear . This is what you are

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        Rohan25,
        Eelam Tamils in Yapanaya should sue Portuguese not British for bringing Dravida slaves to Sinhale and abandoning them. This is a violation of Human Rights.

        “The British only created all this problems for the Eelam Tamils and the Tamils should sue them for what they did.”

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      Did the Britannica also state that the your so called Chingkalla Karava community are descended from South Indian Thamizh low castes who were imported by the Portuguese in their thousands to do menial service work and were settled along the western and southern littorals. Go and read your actual ancestry Laloo. This is also the history of Field Marshall Sarath Fonseka or Vice Admiral Sarath Weerasekera or Ms. Diana Gamage, as well as the history of half the present day so called Chingkallams.

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    With high probability, the original inhabitants of the island might have spoken Tamil, because Sinhala is a relatively new language. And a modern language, because it is phonetically very rich, borrowing from various sources. Those original inhabitants, and the Sinhalese who subsequently appeared are all likely to have Kerala as the root. Much of the original inhabitants would have transformed, via Buddhism, as Sinhalese. Present day Tamils of the north are very likely to be a mixture — a mixture of those who remained with the language without adopting Sinhala and occasional Chola invaders who chose to stay, or descendants of stranded fishermen. This is why, genetically, the average Sinhalese and Tamils are very similar. We are the same people, spoke the same language at some time, followed Gautama at some time etc.
    +
    For further proof of the similarity between Sinhalese and Tamils, please listen to what Native Vedda often says here, far more eloquently than I can ever do: we are equally stupid, and enjoy self destruction.

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      Tamil and Sanskrit despite being original languages still have a very rich vocabulary, however I still take your point, unlike modern languages like Sinhalese or English, being original classical languages they were constrained from borrowing from other languages , to enrich their languages . However they still did and Tamil still does and evolved this is why it survived and is still thriving and did not die out like all other ancient classical languages and I presume Chinese does the same too . They kept pace and competed . Tamil gave birth to many daughter languages but still kept pace , evolved and thrived . Other old languages gave birth did not evolve and died out

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      Sinhalese are highly evolved ancient Tamils. Other Tamils remained backward in evolution and remained Tamils.

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        Gadam( empty) judging by all your comments , as well most the Chingkallams , any sane person will come to the conclusion that most Chingkallams a Thamizh degenerates. They did not evolve but went backwards. Cannot stand the truth . Only believe in fairy tales about man and beasts and fictions and create chaos and misery believing in these fictional fairy tales. This is why they elect nasty evil racist war criminals as their leaders to rule them , as they are a reflection of themselves. Not someone sane or intelligent. Even their so called religious leaders, Buddhist and Catholic reflect this

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      SAV
      “With high probability, the original inhabitants of the island might have spoken Tamil, because Sinhala is a relatively new language. “
      *
      There is need for caution in determining the ages and origins of people and their language.
      Having a written language is not a strong criterion: Sanskrit with a wealth of literature and evidence of great scholarship, appears to have been written much after Tamil, both using a writing system with origins in West Asia.
      Also until European intervention, sub-Saharan African and indigenous American languages has no script system. Yet there were advanced civilizations and even empires before alien intervention.
      Languages evolve. Interaction with foreigners induces changes. Arrival and acceptance of new faiths, knowledge and practice have a strong impact on language. (Tamil itself gained fresh features like passive voice sentences, centuries after the Sangam period. More recently, it adopted Arabic numerals and punctuation.)

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    Dear Hon CJ

    You may find the following program for your young constituent useful should you wish not to connect them to the respective departments of the Nation.

    Having assigned a self written job scope far from an MP’s scope I suggest you consider this as the Armed forces can give respective training to the youth as required on this environmental task you are also very spiritually passionate about etc?

    The Civilian Conservation Corps

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD_MPiBeSGg

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      Dear Hon CJ

      You can serve the Tamils as follows

      Kindly investigate all the crime that happen in Jaffna from 1970-1977-1981 under the “Ratha Pottu Mafia FP/ITAK/TULF/TNA/Tamil Nadu Killing fields in Jaffna a Tamil crime against Tamil”.

      This is an activity well away from all that was sighted as reasons for further aggravating the GOSL & their responses used to elevate and cover up the previous crimes by the same Mafia need to be revisited so the records and chronology can be amended accordingly and the responsible parties can be put on trail and punished…as we can find them all around the world today…our secret services are more than capable of dealing with this request instantly that they were not then please note.
      (1) List all the groups and their killings and all other acivities in Jaffna.
      (2)List how the Children were taken away from Jaffna to Tamil Nadu training camps without the consent of their parents

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        (3) What was FP/ITAK/TULF elected doing then stage after stage
        (4) What was the elected MP’s responses to the killings in their electorate be it innocent victims or their opponents.
        (5) Invite all the families who lost their family members to this type of crime and help them bring charges accordingly.
        (6) Review all the Suthenthiran paper writings leading onto the events and the articles following the events and charge them accordingly.
        (7) Should you unable to do this task ask the UN to help you with these investigations.
        (8) We can not do Peace/Truth and Reconciliation without this part in place for a holistic look at what did realy take place in our NATION??
        (9) Please also list how many Tamil Nadu/Singaporeans/Malaysian children were in these groups so world will know the duplicity all these Tamil criminals who supported our Mother Lankan children to die for their causes that is to squander/trample our life journey a Sovereign Nation brought to her knees.

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          This is the service Tamils have been missing for a long time and could not think of a better qualified person than your good self’s to deliver this justice to Tamils please. We will come to injustices committed on Tamils by others thereafter as everything has to be done in an orderly manner for Justice am sure you will agree.

          1970 election results is the juncture when the Tamils personal choices were taken away in a Democracy/a beautiful Developing Nation such as ours.

          To give the Tamils the strength and the right to think for themselves following the miserable war we need to investigate what did really happen in their life and record “all” not just selective items that suits the respective parties….very many have done the rest of the deaths and msiery and kindly complete this activity for a comprehensive review of our future a responsibility given to you by the voters I am sure you will honour for the love of Tamil speaking humans please.

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            You will not only bring the Tamils in Jaffna who has committed hideous crimes on Tamils and fellow Country men and women but you will also get to record the World Tamils and their duplicity a service this language requires from tamils who are proud of their heritage too such as your goodself’s.

            Should we fail the above and do all other rhetoric will not be entertained anymore by the Sinhalese is what was stated to you in the parliament by Hon SF?? By doing the above activity you will meet all others half way who have equally suffered in our Nation due to the war that took place.??…………a “Peace and Reconciliation” never equal to “Retribution” we will see once we record the above crime.

            We will also prepare all those perpetraotrs who need to be facing their victims in the Truth and Reconciliation activity South African style?? this does not have race/religion nor Language barriers??

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              When Ms Jasmin Sooka says in Sri Lanka there can not be “Business” as usual she also means the above.

              It is also time she encourage all the Sri Lankan Tamils and their Families to pack their bags and return home to do the Nation building activity instantly.

              Put a UN office in Jaffna to record all the thuggery that gets committed “Tamil on Tamil crime” to be investigated and reported to the world instantly and then she can talk about of rest of the human rights issues related to Ratha Pottu Mafia activity in each and every Country where Tamils live??….because the Tamil on Tamil crime is so ripe in the respective countries the respective governments do not care?? as long as Tamils do not commit crime on other races they have taken care of themselves.

              This is what happens when the elected fails their constituents??? Please do not confuse Tamil language with Tamil speaking people please….because we need to develop them just as all others have to do with their inhabitants/citizens to follow law and order?? Now you know why VP was able to control the crooks very well ten at gun point….is time you let the GOSL fill in the Vacuum?? and not to ask for the Police powers please.

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                Dear Hon CJ

                The point here is we all have Good, Bad and the Ugly in all societies is a human nature. We Tamils have spoken all the “Good” about us and spent time attacking the Bad and the Ugly of other communities for a long time. To be specific for the past 70+ years…..going by the track record am sure for thousands of years too.

                In a democracy when the elected fails (sometimes ugly themselves too) to address the social ills within their communities there can not be a collective progress to serve the community themselves but also no good for others too. tHE Sri Lankan history is a very good example of this duplicity that get repeated world order.

                My humble request on behalf of Mr Thiagarajah and myself (we are not perfect) that you address these at least from a political point of view by doing the above investigations please. This will help us to have the right “check and balance” to empower ourselves and others too. In this process the language get the boost it deserve?. I would say is the right way around to grow the Language and the Culture that can benefit the humanity as a whole?

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                  Vennu kunju your appa did a great disservice to his people and now you are following in his foot steps. Shut up . You are becoming a pain and a joke here and yet you persist with your nonsense postings.

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                    Dear PK, Nathan, Dr GS, SSS…..& Umbeddas

                    Thank you for reading what I write. Most appreciated.

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    If Tamils were the original settlers they would have been poor in reproduction that Sinhalese who came later increased in numbers. If they were the original settlers why be generous and claim only the north and east not the entire island. We are fortunately still a democracy and let us have elections and govern. Its peoples choice. A politician recently asked ”police comisama kantada” in the same breath” Bashawa kantadha.” As for me its a form of communication.Let us not change what Karl Marx said ” religion is the opium of the people” to” Language is the opium of the people”

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      Celts were the original settlers in UK but were finally pushed to the extreme north and western parts ( Wales and Scotland) other areas they got assimilated with the Germanic , Anglo Saxons, Danes/Vikings and other immigrants and became English. The same thing happened in the south of the island , the evolving Sinhalese assimilated everyone who later arrived in the island , including millions of South Indian Tamil immigrants and others and even now they do. Their population doubled when the Portuguese and Dutch imported hundreds of thousands of South Indian Tamil indentured labour or slaves and settled them in the Sinhalese south . These people within a century or two al l converted themselves to Sinhalese Buddhists or Catholics and double the Sinhalese population. The Sri Lankan Tamil population birth rate is very low and it is a fact and this is compounded by mass emigration , especially in the past 30 years. Also the Sri Lankan Tamils, especially the Vellalar tend to be very endogamous and will not easily marry outside their communities and when some one does , they are very rarely accepted back into the fold. The children are not accepted and tend to marry outside their community.

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        Despite calling the Tamils as Kallathoni , in fact it is the Sinhalese who are the Kallathoni from the time of the mythical Prince Vijaya onwards. Other than this so called one off migration from some part of North India, all other migration to the island from prehistoric , ancient, medieval to relatively modern times , took place from South India , largely from the then Tamil country , they came as immigrants , invaders and the ones who never returned all largely were assimilated into the Sinhalese identity and not into the Eelam or Sri Lankan Tamil identity , as they settled in the place where they invaded or were invited to settle . The Sinhalese south. It was not one go but in waves .

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      upali1942,
      You raise an interesting observation: Sinhalese who came later increased in numbers.
      Tamil converts strengthened their numbers. That answers your mischievous question why Tamils claim only the north and east not the entire island. Southern Tamils were the ones who got readily – easily – converted.

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    Naga or Chera is the same. So they could not have been enemies. Chera is another name for Naga. The ancient Tamil Chera kingdom had a lot of Naga tribes their descendants are the modern day Nairs. This is why it was called Cheralam or Chera Nadu in Tamil and the island was called Cheran Theevu ( the island of the Naga) which later the westerners or Arabs corrupted it to Serendib. They never could have been the enemies of the Chera as they were one and the same people, unless these various Naga tribes were fighting amongst themselves. This is the reason the Jaffna Tamils traditionally had a lot of similarity in culture with the Nairs of Kerala . Especially worshipping the cobra and the eastern Mukkuva Tamils had practiced matriarchy , just like the people of Kerala. Other modern descendants of the Naga in India are the Nayar, Naynar and the Naicker or Naicks .

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    According to a research done by Prof.Indrapala that during the early ‘ Iron Age’ certain changes by way of development in social, cultural and linguistic matters among the inhabitants took place. Prakrit based language was used in the southern part of the land and Tamil in the North, East and Northwest. This was supported with additional evidences by Prof.Lesley Gunawardena, Archeologist Deraniyagala and Sudharshan Seneviratne. They all agreed that the ancient people prior historic period were Dravidians, speaking Dravidian language. Iron age culture existed some 3000 years ago. Urn burials containing remains of the dead found with their tools such as ploughs, potters wheels, etc; belonging to period 3000 to 200 BC. (Prof. Sudharshan Seneviratne)
    Urn burials were hallmarks of Dravidian culture.
    In 1970s University of Pennsylvania archaeological team led by Dr.Vimala Begley carried out excavations where earthen wares and urn burials with Brahmi inscriptions unearthed in Kathiraveli and Seruvila in Trincomalee district and similar finds in Ekanda, Panama and Kuduvil in Amparai district. In Pomparippu in the NWP, over 2000 urn burials and coins with Brahmi lettering unearthed as evidence of Iron Age culture and Tamils inhabiting the area.
    Buddhism was brought to the island in 200 BC. Pali language also came with it but it lost its importance when Pali became a dead language in N.India.
    To be continued:-

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    contd-

    King Ellalan or Elara ruled Lanka around 100 BC with Anuradhapura as the capital.Before him Sena, Guthika, Mooth Sivan, Aselan – all Tamils kings ruled the island. Mootha Sivan ruled between 307BC to 247BC. Devanambiya Tissa, son of Mootha Sivan ruled from 247 BC to 197 BC. Maha Sivan, brother of Mootha Sivan ruled from 197 BC to 187 BC. He was followed by Thamil kings Senan and Guthikan, both ruled for 22 years. King Aselan succeeded them and after him King Ellalan (Elara) ruled for 44 years righteously. Dutugemunu was the chieftain having his power base in Homagama. (The MV or The Great chronicle of Ceylon(tr.) by Wilhelm Geiger, 1912) Though the reputed historian Paranavithana portrayed the Elara – Dutugemunu episode as a battle between two enemies of different ethnic groups but in reality Dutugemunu greedy for power and to extend his authority went to war with Ellalan and killed him. However he respected and acknowledged Ellalan’s righteous rule which was evident from the way he made the decree that all passersby pay respect to King Elara’s monument by dismounting their mode of transport.
    Sinhala King Mahanama ruled Anuradhapura in 406 AD.

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      P. Rajeswaran,
      “According to a research done by Prof.Indrapala that during the early ‘ Iron Age’ certain changes by way of development in social, cultural and linguistic matters among the inhabitants took place.”

      Has Prof. Indrapala published the findings of this research and if so can you give a reference?

      Prof. Indrapala is a historian, not an archeologist. Prof. Indrapala got into trouble with separatist Malabar Vellala Demalu by saying in his doctoral dissertation that there are no evidences to support Demalu had settlements in Sinhale before 7th century. In a doctoral dissertation one cannot write things that cannot be defended in front of an examination committee. Then he took a u-turn and started fabricating history to please separatists.

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    This is the quality of leadership the Tamils have? No wonder they are stateless where ever they go.

    I don’t know why this old senile man thinks this is why he was appointed as a representative of his people.

    By making up fake History and DNA are the poor Tamil people getting their three meals?

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      a14455,
      From where you plucking this BS, that CVW is making up fake History and DNA.
      Tell me, why this man was chosen as a representative by the Tamil people.
      What could he do different so that the poor Tamils could get their three meals.
      .
      Tamils are used to missing their meals. The real fun will start when the Sinhalese peasants find that they have to miss their meals.

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      Only people who are creating bull shit history are your war criminal leaders, the very un Buddhist clergy and now an Un Christian Cardinal has also joined their ranks. You people are now drunk with victory that was the world gave you and now want to destroy the remaining Thamizh in the north and east with fake history and steal what remains of our lands , history and monuments. Vigneswaran is fighting back with facts and you racists do not like it, as all previous Thamizh leaders , especially SamSum rolled over.

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    continuation to comments posted above:-

    King Mahanama ruled A’pura in 406 AD and one of his queens was a Tamil and she was said to have wielded great power at that time.
    King Kasappah ii ruled A’pura from 650 – 659AD and when he died his son Manawarman wanted to succeed him but due to internal feud and hostility, fearing for his life he fled to the North and took refuge in Jaffna. This indicates that there existed a powerful kingdom in Jaffna. When Buddhism started to decline in India during Pallawa period (300AD to 600AD) Saivaism became prominent. The Tamils in the island too who practiced Buddhism little by little turned to Saivaism.
    History relates to factual and continuous record of events pertaining to humans that cannot be manipulated or obliterated and does not incorporate anything fictional or legendary.
    Mahawamsa was written as a propaganda to advance Buddhism and is not an accurate comprehensive early history. The author Mahanama Thero himself was in acceptance of the fact that his sole idea was to glorify and promote the spread and sustain Buddhism in the island.
    Thank you.

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    King Devanampiyatissa was not Tamil. In fact he came to power after he genocided all Dravidians following a brief south Indian invasion. Read history. Genocide was the way of war at that time. It was normal.

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      Ok Gadam. King Thevanai Nambiya Theesan was not Thamizh but his father king Mootha Sivan ( the great Siva) was a Thamizh . King Thavannai Nambiya Theesan was Chinese. So was King Dushtha Kaiman ( Duttu Gemunu) he was not Thamizh too but his father king Kaakai Vanna Thessan( black king in Thamizh) or Kaavan Theesan( the great protector in Thamizh ) was a Thamizh , with Thamizh names or titles. All these Thamizh fathers and mothers produced Aryan Chingkalla sons. Funny there were no Chingkallams or Chingkalla language 2300 years ago when Buddhism arrived, only Thamizh or semi Thamizh speaking Dravidian Naga or Iyaakar but miraculously the Thamizh king who converted to Buddhism and Dushta Kaiman who deferated the Thamizh king Ellalan the just become Chingkallams . Even your Mahavamsa fable never called them Chingkallams as they were not. Go and read properly non of your ancient kings ever identified themselves as Chingkallams or Aryans as they were not . They were Thamizh Naga who kept on taking Thamizh princess from South India as their brides or queens.

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    Mr Wiggy,

    “There had been Madurai Tamils who came for the coronation of Don Juan Dharmapala about four hundred years ago who were given cinnamon lands in certain areas in the South, who married here and their descendants now call themselves full-fledged Sinhalese. Lots of them fought the recent Thirty Years’ War feeling themselves as true blue blooded Sinhalese!”

    There may have been migration of people from India from time too time. This is no different to whats happening all over the world today. People who migrate from one country to another after a while inter -marry and assimilate. This is a Global Phenomena. I have met many people from Tamil nadu who were of Telegu origin but completely Tamilised as a result of living in Tamil Nadu for a few generations.

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      Well all know this . People migrate and change and gradually change their identity . Tamil and Telugu people are very closely related Dravidian people and many castes amongst the Tamils and Telugus span across the ethnic lines Eg; Yadhava, Iyers, Naickers. Both are Dravidian languages . Tamil is the mother or older sister of Telugu. People in India do not hide their origins and others respect this. However in Sri Lanka more than half the so called Sinhalese Aryans are of recent South Indian Tamil immigrant origin but want to hide their recent Indian Tamil immigrant origin and the biggest supporters of the Sinhalese Buddhist fake Aryan Fascism. You are good example

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      RAVI PERERA
      The Sinhala Speaking Demela

      “I have met many people from Tamil nadu who were of Telegu origin but completely Tamilised as a result of living in Tamil Nadu for a few generations.”

      Therefore do you think if given enough time you will also evolve/reconvert into Tamil? How soon can you convert to dravidianism?

      When did your ancestors assimilate into Sinhala/Buddhism? Where did they hide their Erivirrar Spears?

      Next time around when Hindians debrief you do ask them important questions such as when their Hindutva saffron army is planning to stop infiltration and conversion in this island? What was their annual budget for Hinduttvaisation of Sri Lanka?

      How long would it take Hindian armed forces flatten Sri Lanka’s defense installations as per their latest defence review? It used to be 24 hours. That was ten years ago.

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