Representatives of several Tamil diaspora organisations including Tamil Coordination Committee UK, Transnational Government of Tamil Eelam, Tamil Youth Organisation and Together Against Genocide met in Harrow to discuss about the current political affairs after the election and to draft a plan of action for the future.
The full day meeting which took place on Saturday, 22nd August was conducted as 3 sessions and academics and journalists from all major Tamil media outlets participated in panel discussions.
Sengodan. M / August 24, 2015
It will be good for these groups to keep silent at the least for an year and watch developments in the homeland. Of course, if they have no other past time, they can keep beating their drums!
Sengodan. M
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Ben Hurling / August 24, 2015
Sri Lanka will never be able to move forward with certain elements of the Sri Lankan Tamil diaspora. Those groups are often referred to as “Die-ass-pora”. Justifiably so.
We should not waste too much time on them. Except maintaining a high degree of high quality, penetrating intelligence about some of their dubious activities. Among other things, we must keep an eye on how they bag vulnerable Western politicians to promote their perverted version of ethno-Tamil-nationalism over here.
Beyond that, it is high time for SL to have a far more nuanced approach towards Sri Lankan Tamils overseas. These are nobody else, but sons and daughters of our country. We have everything to gain by engaging them. In a true sense of brotherhood. No monkey business.
May I remind you, this is a very resourceful group as well. Specially the second generation of Sri Lankan Tamils. We must actively court their goodwill. To move this country forward. With the right strategy and time, I believe we can win to a great extent.
In the Sri Lankan psyche, “Diaspora” has become a terribly negative word. Just like “Federal”. Perhaps we must adopt new words. Perhaps we must do whatever it takes. To get this done.
For get this done, we must. No matter what. Our destiny is common.
Cheers!
PS: President Sirisena’s speech in Sampur yesterday was like music. Let us hope he will manage to deliver. Despite all difficulties.
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Native Vedda / August 24, 2015
Ben Hurling
“Sri Lanka will never be able to move forward with certain elements of the Sri Lankan Tamil diaspora.”
Those who live and vote in the elections have defeated the so called Thamil Eelam nutters.
Ponna’s grandson did not win a single seat in the recently held elections. Gota’s boys who contested elections received no more than 2500 votes in total through out North East, though they claimed to have been members of the now completely annihilated LTTE.
On the other hand you should do something about the Sinhala/Buddhists who have time and again demonstrated their own fascistic tendencies.
What are you going to do about the Sinhala/Buddhist bigots who accounts for 42.38% (4,732,664) of total votes?
At the most the diaspora amounts no more than 400,000 (includes third generation) compared to their people who live and vote in this island say 1.5 million. Those Tamils also have voted for other parties, notably the UNP.
The second and third generation diaspora Sinhalese as well as Tamils do not give two hoots about your much celebrated Sinhala/Buddhism or Tamil Eelam. What they really care about is human dignity, rights, needs, poverty, ……… etc all people of this world.
Fortunately they are not being trapped by their parents’s parochial politics, though some parents want to instill their “values” exported from their native villages.
I wish them well for most of them don’t view the world through A**es of Arumuga Navalar, Anagarika Dharmapala, DS, SWRD Banda, JR, MR, VP, Sampandan, ……….. Thonda.
They have completely different outlook of the world as a whole and the village Sri Lanka within it.
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Ben Hurling / August 24, 2015
Native,
“What are you going to do about the Sinhala/Buddhist bigots who accounts for 42.38% (4,732,664) of total votes?”
I admit that represents the biggest challenge. I see it in my own extended family, among friends, colleagues etc. Some of them above average educated, well exposed to the wider world. How some people can be so stupid is beyond me.
However, I am optimistic. That over time, we can blow a massive whole in above mentioned vote bank. Will take education, information & of course enforced laws.
Sri Lanka will move on.
Inshallah..!
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Dravidian / August 24, 2015
Sinhalese does not understand demo-cracy! They only understand violence, racism, oppression and barbarianism. Eelam Tamils have proved to be disciplined, progressive and global leaders in Singapore and progressing well in many nations including in Australia, New Zealand, UK, Europe, Canada and the USA. Many Western leaders already admire the Tamils progress in the West.
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Kitta / August 25, 2015
Yes …! Tamils are the greatest nation on earth. That’s what Gotha-abhaya, Booruwansa, Aparajitha MaRa preach about Sinhala nation. Wish all these Tamil Diaspoorians appoint above as their advisers/resource persons.
Dravidian – be careful about your brains when you sit ….!
All the best Sri Lanka.
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Native Vedda / August 25, 2015
Kitta
“Tamils are the greatest nation on earth.”
So are the Sinhala/Buddhist ghetto dwelling people.
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Kitta / August 26, 2015
No Vedda …! According to Booruwansa+Nanasara clan Sinhala+Buddhists are greatest of them all.
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Native Vedda / August 25, 2015
Dravidian
After the demise of VP,Kalis-tani, Maveeran, Cholan, .. now comes the Dravidian with same imagined anthropological study of Tamils.
I am not sure your partner is impressed by uttering.
Stay in this forum for information, education, knowledge and hopefully little wisdom.
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The Rogue Ayer / August 25, 2015
Ben Hurling,
“I see it in my own extended family, among friends, colleagues etc. Some of them above average educated, well exposed to the wider world. How some people can be so stupid is beyond me.”
In the same way it is difficult to understand why Tamils keep on voting for the politicians that have not achieved anything. Part of the reason is the simple fact that there is no reasonable alternative. Not yet.
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Kettikaran / August 28, 2015
Native V,
I would place the numbers of the Lankan Diaspora in the
800,000-1,000,000 range. The UK and Canada alone account for more than 600,000. Add to that the numbers in the EU, USA, Australia-NZ, Malaysia and elsewhere. The numbers are growing with every passing month.
Kettikaran
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Dravidian / August 24, 2015
Tamils have heard many speeches and promises since independence from the British. It is time for full scale investigation of human rights abuses, war crimes and genocide, Can you live with serial killers, torturers, rapists and murders?
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / August 24, 2015
“Can you live with serial killers, torturers, rapists and murders? “
We Thamizh managed somehow for about 30 years, until the Sinhalam army came and put an end to it :D
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Dravidian / August 25, 2015
Do you write sensibly? Do you see the how Tamils uprooted from their homes, raped, murdered and those who ran away from Sri Lanka how they live in many nations? You are a mf.
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / August 25, 2015
“Do you see the how Tamils uprooted from their homes, raped, murdered yadda yadda”
Yes I did see how We Thamizh raped and murdered and uprooted people from their homes. As I said, the Sinhalam came and put an end to that finally back in 2009 :D
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Native Vedda / August 25, 2015
Wee Thamihz Seniour Journalist D: Siva Sankaran Sarma Menon
“Do you see the how Tamils uprooted from their homes, raped, murdered yadda yadda”
Congratulations.
You do know Yidish don’t you?
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Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam / August 25, 2015
Dear Ben Hurling,
Unfortunately Srilanka Government had been engaging with wrong segments of the overseas Tamils.
Broadly Tamil dispora could be classified into three categories:
On one exteme are these bigots like the ones who had gathered at this meeting. This group has the money, are vociferous and have the ability to harness people for protests and demonstrations.
On the other extreme are a mixture of opportunists, publicity seekers ans those with questionable financial integrity. These people are prepared to sell themselves for perks and positions.
In the middle is the vast section of silent majority. They do not take part in political activities, are moderate in their views, are firmly committed to self respect, and cannot be bought over.
The Government goes head on with the first group wasting time and energy and in most instances end up a loser, while they get the second category to functions and display them as representing Tamils, therby fooling themselves only. It is high time Srilanka government ditches both the fringe groups and engage with the silent majority if they want any progress in settling Tamil issue and reconciliation among the variuos ethnis groups. I ahould warn in advance that this group fully supports the aspirations of Tamils in Srilanka and cannot be influenced to accept any Sinhala racist solution to be imposed to the detriment of Tamil people.
I hope this will be clear to Srilnka Government if they genuinely wish to settle the Tamil problem.
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Hamlet / August 25, 2015
“In the Sri Lankan psyche, “Diaspora” has become a terribly negative word.”
Don’t forget that there is a Sinhala/Buddhist Diaspora out there too, not only a Tamil One!
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Native Vedda / August 25, 2015
Hamlet
Let see the enemies of Sinhala/Buddhists have been
Before and just after independence:
Mohammedan
Christian
Pakistani
Indian
Just before and after Independence:
Up country Tamils (Fifth Column)
Ponna
Chelva
Amirthalingam
VP & LTTE
The West
Tamil Nadu (Toilet Nadu)
Tamil Diaspora
Vellala
Muslims (Jihadi)
India
What does it show? Enemies change as time changes however the Sinhala/Buddhist paranoia remain constant.
Sinhala/Buddhists need an imagined enemy in order to sustain a manufactured country.
Sinhala/Buddhists thrive on conflicts, of course all created by themselves, otherwise they cannot live. In peace they would just die.
Therefore peace is most important than anything else.
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Tamil from the north / August 24, 2015
@Sengodan, I am with you on this. I live in Canada and met some of these jokers in the TGTE. Bloody useless fellows who have nothing to do are in this gang. All their children are in universities/colleges/trade schools or at least married and living happily ever after!!!! Now that they have a lot of time, they want to engage in this kind of nonsense putting other people’s children at risk in SL.
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Dravidian / August 25, 2015
Let the International community have a referendum on self rule, independence under International monitors. Don’t write propaganda and it is not going to work.
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Tamil from the north / August 25, 2015
@Dravidian, I wonder where you were when the Tamils were being slaughtered in 2009? Maybe spreading propaganda. First of all do you even know what propaganda means?
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Dravidian / August 24, 2015
Tamils trusted the Sinhalese leaders and the Sinhalese leaders failed the Tamils again and again.
Please do make a mockery of innocent human sufferings without accountability, justice, and rule of law. The world knows what is going on in Sri Lanka and the Sinhala Buddhist Apartheid and fascism.
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Stanislaus / August 25, 2015
Very good advice, Sengodan.They could decide to dissolve all these organizations since they have outlived their usefulness long ago and as Sengodan says find some other past time in which to expend their energy and resources.
They remind me of the Russian emigres in Paris circa 1020’s who were working to restore the monarchy by putting “Princess” Anastasia on the throne!
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Ram / August 25, 2015
” they have outlived their usefulness “
Not so fast. We should seek war reparations from those funded terrorism in Sri Lanka.
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John / August 24, 2015
“Tamil Nationalist Groups Met In London To Discuss Their Future”
Tamils will have a better future if they join hands with Sinhalese , Muslims & be a part of Central Govt. in Colombo.
They got “enough” by being in the opposition for last 50 years or so.
When Tamils become more Intelligent , Rational & Practical ???
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Rohan / August 24, 2015
//Tamils will have a better future if they join hands with Sinhalese , Muslims & be a part of Central Govt. in Colombo.//
.. as equal partners, not as Majority and Minority!!
Tamils are *always* intelligent. But, when they were told that they should be subordinate to another, there would be natural resistance. Tamils wanted their children to go to school, get educated, get good jobs and serve everyone around. But, they were denied that right.
Give them the same right a village Sinhala person deserves and receives. Everything will be all right.
So…
When would Sinhala elite become more Intelligent , Rational & Practical???
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Dravidian / August 24, 2015
Tamil Leaders during the time of independence from the British trusted that they could live with the Sinhalese and failed demand for separation from the British like Jinna formed Pakistan. Ordinary Tamils paid a heavy price for not being close to the Sinhalese and not demanding separation from the British. No Sinhalese leader is trustworthy and everyone is a chauvinist.
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Ken Dharmapala / August 24, 2015
It is about time that Tamils in Sri Lanka ask these expats to “get lost”. They are not doing anything to further the welfare of Tamils in Sri Lanka. Their agenda is to further their own interests. One of which is to ensure that those waiting for “refugee” status determinations succeed in their endeavour.
Those who constitute the Tamil Diaspora are, in the main, not the real victims of the upheavals we have experienced since 1983. These expat Tamils used the misery of the less fortunate Tamils to build their own refugee applications and residency status.
Most of the Tamil victims of violence are still in Sri Lanka with no hope of ever being able to flee to greener pastures. These are the poor farmers and fisher folk. And these people are being conned by Tamil politicians and are used for the benefit of Tamil elite, many of whom are leading lucrative professional lives in London, Toronto and Sydney.
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Maveeran / August 24, 2015
What are you talking about? Tamils in Srilanka are more depended on their relative Tamils around the world than your Sinhala goverment. It was the case since the civil war started in Srilanka. First tell your sinhalese brothers to give the same respect and resources that were provided to them by the Srilanka goverment. Then only the Tamils around the world will join hands for the betterment of all. Reason Tamils drifted away was because of the Sinhala racism. Treat everyone equally as human beings first. To prove that all the Tamil genocides commited by the racist war crminals must be punished and brought to justice. Peace be with you after that.
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Ken Dharmapala / August 25, 2015
Truth hurts, eh?
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Tamil from the north / August 24, 2015
@Ken Dharmapala, we are abroad and we have also told them to get lost. If the majority treats the minorities with kindness and equal rights in SL, they jokers from the TGTE will simply dissipate.
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Paddy / August 24, 2015
It is time the diaspora learnt that their aspirations are different to those of the Tamils living in Sri Lanka. The diaspora should now just carry on with their lives in the land of their choice. The Tamils here have very capable and honorable politicians who are aware of the ground situation and will carry their cause forward. The different races have spoken with their votes in one voice. No rabble rousers have been voted in … On the governing side.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / August 24, 2015
Irrelevant!
Dr.RN
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / August 24, 2015
Irrelevant!
Live in a fantasy world, divorced from the ground realities here.
Dr.RN
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Dimi / August 24, 2015
It’s just a club of people who feel very important for no reason.
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Candidly / August 24, 2015
But unfortunately these include the groups that the misguided British prime minister David Cameron listened to in the past, although the new UK Foreign Secretary, Philip Hammond, who advises him seems to have a better grasp of reality.
Well-meaning persons should worry that organisations such as the Transational Government of Tamil Eelam who still venerate the Tamil Tigers and Prabhakaran will be jumping for joy at the prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming leader of the Labour Party soon. Perhaps that is one of the reasons these groups have met together for it is claimed in the British press that Comrade Corbyn once signed a letter to the British government calling for the ban on the Tamil Tigers in the UK to be lifted. He has certaily spoken at meetings where Tamil Tiger flags and propaganda have been openly displayed – but so have a lot of other British MPs.
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Native Vedda / August 25, 2015
Candidly
“But unfortunately these include the groups that the misguided British prime minister David Cameron listened to in the past, although the new UK Foreign Secretary, Philip Hammond, who advises him seems to have a better grasp of reality. “
Are you being really serious?
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Diluk Desinghe / August 24, 2015
They must be in a state of total confusion now……Mihinda Rajapaksa being in power was imperative for them to push forward their agenda to isolate Sri Lanka…..Now with Ranil and Sirisena in power, Western countries and most importantly India will NOT rock the boat for them…..looks like the diaspora will have to lick their wounds to fight another day.
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / August 25, 2015
Kadavule! :D
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Pot Shot / August 24, 2015
What a waste of time. The new Gov in Colombo is trying reconcile and bring about peace within communities and these diaspora jokers are like MR, still attempting divisive methods loaded with bitterness to devise the country.
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Dravidian / August 24, 2015
Reconciliation with serial killers, torturers, murders and rapists? What a joke of the 21st century!
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / August 24, 2015
Why does anyone need to reconcile with a group that’s dead and buried at the bottom of Nandikadal? A joke indeed :D
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Dravidian / August 25, 2015
Are you an agent of the alleged war criminals and serial killers? Tamils are demanding an independent international transparent investigation and not a cover up of serial killers rapists and tortures. Your propaganda will never work and will die with those criminals who committed the crimes. You are an obstacle for Justice, Accountability and Rule of Law.
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Arun / August 25, 2015
Dravidian,
Why you did not talk rule of law when LTTE was alive and committed atrocities. Assuming if LTTE has won would there have been justice and rule of law against their atrocities?????????? I will put it plain and simple diaspora dreams have been shattered. Ponnanmpalam (jnr) has been dumped bt Tamils living in SL
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Kitta / August 25, 2015
Oh Dear Dravidian – you will be caught red handedly if they conduct a independent, unbiased human rights investigation for whole 30 years – aren’t you – for all serial killing, raping, torturing and whatnot.
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Native Vedda / August 25, 2015
Kitta oh man/woman/other
“you will be caught red handedly if they conduct a independent, unbiased human rights investigation for whole 30 years – aren’t you – for all serial killing, raping, torturing and whatnot.”
Precisely, that is one more good reason to set up an independent investigation to dig into war crimes and crimes against humanity covering the period from 5th April 1971 to date.
Will you urge the state and its rulers to consider it?
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Kitta / August 26, 2015
Yes of course Vedda ….! Will do it. I’m with you.
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Native Vedda / August 26, 2015
Kitta
“I’m with you.”
Now you scare me.
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Pot Shot / August 25, 2015
Dravidian,
You must be purer than white and suffering from selective memory. Out of your 4 accusation-serial killers, torturers, murders and rapists, do strike off what your LTTE did not do and then comment. There were clearly faults on both side and there is no basis for blame other than for saying that the Tamils were pushed down by regressive policies of the past. The past is the past but do give this government the space to reconcile. I am not asking you but I am telling you!
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Uthungan / August 24, 2015
The flag leaning agsinst the wall shows which set up organised the said meeting in Harrow to plan a new bundle of deceptive action plan to bring MR back into the Presidential saddle in SL.
That is how some of those who pose off as academics iand journalists acquire mansions and businesses in London.
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Afzal / August 24, 2015
Worldwide pressure is mounting on Tamils to be sent back to Sri Lanka, as per recent Canadian law it allows PR status to be revoked or something like that.
With normalcy returning to Sri Lanka and now with a new government in place foreign government will be bound to take these facts in to consideration when they evaluate residency claims by Sri Lankan refugees.
Diaspora Tamils would have loved if MR somehow got a upper hand. Now they cannot even for fun organize a protest, their aunti navi pillay is not there anymore to baby sit them and tell fairly tales to the world. Even Ban Kin Moon seems to have change colors. I read a article where US says there was no mass deaths of civilians final stage of the war.
Tamil diaspora tried few things in Jaffna by funding thugs and gangs. That too has been quelled by Yahapalanaya.
So the global Tamil Diaspora (or diashora) need to find a way out, their survival depends on that. One thing is clear they are increasingly being alienated by northern Tamils, rest of the country Tamils have done that long time back.
In my view only option available for Diaspora Tamils is to create a credible organization (not like this Transgressing Tamil national government which no one will even bother to give a shit) and show that you are credible and stand for a unitary state, then start talking to government of Sri Lanka.
I don’t know whether this picture here is a file picture or picture from the event, this flag will not sell anymore, not only in Sri Lanka anywhere else in the world as well.
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K.A Sumanasekera / August 24, 2015
This is not a good Omen for Yahapalaya.
I mean with that Tiger Head of Pira’s Flag behind their backs….
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Afzal / August 24, 2015
KAS,
I don’t think some Diashora displaying a now defunct Tiger country flag is going to disturb any one, surely not Yahapalanaya.
They are using it for their own amusement (in our words choon ekata)
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Maveeran / August 25, 2015
The tiger flag will defintely disturb your Halwa Hoo hackbar worshipping Afzal ars. Don’t get carried away with with the wind that blew u here from somewhere in the Middle East. Waluhulallah
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Afzal / August 25, 2015
I know it hurts ! no remedy now, have to suck it up !
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Maveeran / August 27, 2015
So Afzal when are you planning to get back to the middle East?
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Rohan / August 24, 2015
I am sooooo glad that average Sinhala person is much more intelligent and logical than KAS.
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Tamil from the north / August 24, 2015
@Rohan, Kandiah Arasaratnam Sumanasekeram is more like a stray dog which barks in the middle of the night seeing the leaves move from a tree. He is a born loser and a clown. He is also the Rajapaksa jester who washed Paksa’s feet everyday.
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Thiwanka / August 24, 2015
‘JOURNALIST’ Is that what you call them these days???? A joke. These fools should understand they and their kind of politics have no Future. Maybe if the ‘JOURNALIST’ were actually what they say they are then this new would not be a suprise to this group
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Naga / August 24, 2015
North East Tamils have very clearly rejected the attempts by these pro-LTTE groups by defeating Gajendrakumar’s party propped by these groups.
The vote for TNA at the 17th election is a clear message that North East Tamils are capable of deciding their own future without the interference of the Diaspora Tamils.
As rightly pointed out here by DrRN, Tamil voters have made these Diaspora Tamils irrelevant. Let them enjoy their happy lives in the West. If they are really interested in their country of birth, they should come back and settle down in Sri Lanka. They can then help develop the North East.
Though TNA told a lie about getting self rule for Tamils based on Federalism next year, the most the present government or any future government would give is 13 plus possibly with the addition of some police powers. There won’t be any international inquiry into what happened during the last days of the war. A domestic inquiry will be accepted by the UN Human Rights Council and that will be the end of that story.Neither Ranil nor Maithri will need TNA or Tamils any more because they are now safe for the mext five years. The position of TNA will be that of “Elavu Katha Kili”.
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Rajash / August 24, 2015
Waste of time. They pow wow among themselves.When they appear on TV they cant articulate clearly and speak mumbo jumbo
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Arun / August 24, 2015
Expat SL Tamil community that supported LTTE to take SL Tamils as human shield; Firstly, be ashamed yourselves as you would have rebelled if it was your sons and daughters if kept as human shield; Secondly, your sons and daughters have had the better living conditions and education that SL Tamils living in SL will like to have in the distant future for which the GOSL has to develop the socio economic matrix of SL;Thirdly your so called meetings are social gatherings for you and it does not benefit any one in SL other than some of the group leaders who enjoy visits to UK parliament to propagate themselves.Fourthly, do not forget the money collectors in the name of SL Tamils collected your hard earn money and enjoying life at your cost.
Allow SL Tamils integrate with other communities and please support the reconciliation process.
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Native Vedda / August 24, 2015
Arun
“Allow SL Tamils integrate with other communities and please support the reconciliation process. “
It takes two to tango and two hands to clap.
As the leader of TNA he had already extended his hands of cooperation just after the war ended. He has been looking for partners in the south.
He found none who is fit enough to Tango with him.
When he extended his hands to MR who was keen to please his Sinhala/Buddhists racist supporters than taking his hand off the till and embrace Sampandan.
What do you want him to do, crawl on all fours?
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Arun / August 25, 2015
Native Vedda, Respect your comments. The environment of reconciliation has just begun. What started in Jan 8th was reinforced in Aug 17th with greater Sinhalese voters supporting UNF. As a symbolic gesture Sampur lands were handed back by MS personalty attending the event. Heartening to note Sambanthan’s presence. But don’t expect a separate state. Be realistic. Tamil diaspora can do a lot in the field of education and health.In short NEED NOT CRAWL but BE SMART to develop the people. This will make them equal partners in the economic development of SL
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Native Vedda / August 25, 2015
Arun
“But don’t expect a separate state. Be realistic.”
Whats the matter with you? Are you a new typist in this forum?
“In short NEED NOT CRAWL but BE SMART to develop the people.”
Until recently Sampandan needed permission from the army commander/governor to ease himself.
“This will make them equal partners in the economic development of SL”
Nothing will make minorities equal simply because in the name of Sinhala/Buddhism a few people sitting in Colombo have accumulated power. With so much power centralised nothing can be planned or implemented without the authorisation of few donkeys. Donkeys have to be stripped of all powers to make way for the decisions process wrested with local level political institutions.
This may be bit complicated and very hard for you to understand. So just forget it.
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Arun / August 25, 2015
Native Vedda,
Yes I am also a typist like you. You articulate my point. Sambandan and TNA may have had to take permission from Military/governor. After Jan 8th Governor has gone. HSZ is shrinking etc.etc. Thanks to the defeat of LTTE and Yahapalnaya regime’s effort on peace building and reconciliation.In a nation engulfed in terrorism certain restrictions are put in place. Things will ease.I don’t know about donkeys but the power of the people is coming back to the legislature.People of North were wise to defeat Ponnampalam jnr – supported by Diaspora – and the ex LTTE group.If the diaspora come and meet in Jaffna to protest the people of Jaffna will hoot and throw them out. Don’t worry SL Police in Jaffna will protect them!!
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Arun / August 25, 2015
“This may be bit complicated and very hard for you to understand. So just forget it.”
Native Vedda
Certainly, I may not have the power understand but I have learnt not to underestimate others. (LTTE and Diaspora were often under estimated SL state apparatus). Besides this ethno and/or religious supremacy is often had a great influence in the seats of power. If afro american have remained with defeatist mentality today Barak Obama would not have come to power. Afro americans joined the main stream and contributed to the society. It took them a time span of 1863 to 2008. Tony Blair after addressing the joint sessions at US congress immediately after the twin tower came back and made an address to UK parliament. In that he said to the effect after meeting then secy of state C Rice in US that he wished that UK cabinet should become multicultural (in 2001). Malay dominant Malaysia and Chinese dominant Singapore has multiculturalism on their terms. I agree the only exception is India where secularism has had its best roots. Hence Native Vedda, we should not keep mourning of Sinhalese Buddhism in SL, Tamils too should integrate and contribute in development. I hope I made you understand that I understand something.
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Native Vedda / August 25, 2015
Arun
Thanks for your sermon.
“Tamils too should integrate and contribute in development.”
Do you want “unity in diversity” ex-punched and replaced by a monolithic Sinhala/Buddhist ghetto in place run by a few morons/thieves/war criminals?
So you don’t believe in diversity of language, religion, ideas, human relation, culture, heritage, …….. but in a moronic Sinhala/Buddhists state?
You carry on with your moronic mono ethnic, mono religious, ……. idea of a country which is doomed to fail.
The Sinhalese, Buddhists, Tamils, Hindus, Muslims, Christians, ….. know how to build a country that celebrates diversity as in the olden time.
You know when and where to get off.
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Arun / August 26, 2015
Thanks for elevating my writing to the status of a ‘sermon’. I only talked about multiculturalism in a united SL. Have a great day
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Native Vedda / August 26, 2015
Arun
“I only talked about multiculturalism in a united SL”
Lets see what you mean by multicuturalims:
“Hence Native Vedda, we should not keep mourning of Sinhalese Buddhism in SL, Tamils too should integrate and contribute in development.”
Integration with majority may mean multiculturalism to you however it also means assimilation, if forced it also means genocide.
Total population of Sinhalese being mere 15 million wouldn’t it be much easier for them to integrate with the people of Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Telengana, Andhra, .. if convenient with Kalinga (Orrissa)? It won’t make much difference to Sinhala language or culture, given that 99.999999999999% of your uniqueness comes mostly from South India, including your genetic makeup.
Therefore rather than building and living in a Sinhala/Buddhist ghetto Sinhalese must aspire to integrate into much larger population and take advantage of their ancient, medieval, cultural relations with their mother India.
“Have a great day”
I will, the day Sinhalese and their Tamil brethren promise to leave my ancestral island.
If you went back to your ancestral motherland you too will have great day, everyday.
Wish you well on your return journey.
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Arun / August 26, 2015
Native Vedda,
Neither Sinhalese nor Tamils will leave this land. Human migration patterns started from Africa and will continue into coming millennium in different directions. Native Vedda’s community will integrate and disown being identified as Vedda ( already happening ).One or two will remain as they can earn a living posing as an ancient tribe.
Diaspora is living in a dream world in night and in daylight running in search of water in dessert – mirage of a separate homeland. Tamils living in SL do not support nor the world nations.Of course they come to Colombo and go to south and have a good time these days.
I do not challenge anyone’s to right dream and enjoy those couple of minutes in dreamland.
I never said multiculturalism is integration and don’t understand your rationale why should S integrate into India.
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Native Vedda / August 26, 2015
Arun
You typed:
” Tamils too should integrate and contribute in development. – August 25, 2015 at 6:57 am”
“I never said multiculturalism is integration and don’t understand your rationale why should S integrate into India. – August 26, 2015 at 1:57 pm”
On a bad day you want the Tamils to integrate. On a very bad day you are denying what you typed on the previous day.
Make up your mind.
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Arun / August 27, 2015
Native Vedda,
Integrate does not mean Tamils become Sinhalese nor Sinhalese become Tamils.This shows the lack of understanding the word in the context. I will excuse you for that. It is the effort to live in harmony and prosper economically and socially. It is like Anglo , Afro, Hispanic ,Jewish, Indians etc etc live in US or like India, Malaysia or UK. Have they lost their individual racial identity???? It is unfortunate Diaspora living in another countries giving negative impetus to this process. They never sent their sons and daughters to join the terrorists to fight and expected other mothers children to fight ( I am sure you would not have done that) and die for their dirty dreams. Today their last hope of an International Investigation has put in the coffin and NAILED.(once again SL Govt has outwitted the diaspora) Only a domestic inquiry US will support. Vedda support the peace and reconciliation efforts under Yahapalanaya??
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Native Vedda / August 28, 2015
Arun
I am happy you got the social history of USA, India, Malaysia and UK wrong. Send your idea about these countries back to drawing board.
” It is unfortunate Diaspora living in another countries giving negative impetus to this process.”
I can see Diaspora’s hands in everything. They caused 1883, 1915, 1948, 1956, 1958, 1971, 1977, 1983, 1987 to 1990, burnt down library,disrupting 1974 cultural event in which 12 were killed, assassination of SWRD Banda ………., stagflation in the early 1970s, Indo Pakistan wars, Oil crisis, Tsunami,
In this island we have a habit of blaming the victims. Please do continue.
“They never sent their sons and daughters to join the terrorists to fight and expected other mothers children to fight ( I am sure you would not have done that) and die for their dirty dreams. “
Tell me which politician had sent his/her son/daughter to join the armed forces and fight for Mahinda? Am I stupid enough to send my children to fight with JVP or join the armed forces? Fighting is for the stupid and the vile.
“Today their last hope of an International Investigation has put in the coffin and NAILED.(once again SL Govt has outwitted the diaspora)”
Go back to my comments many years ago, I said the guardian angels of this island were Hindia and USA and the chances of setting up International Independent Investigation was remote. It does not mean smart ass Sri Lankans can outwit Hindia and USA forever. There is also Karma – Natural justice.
( Vedda support the peace and reconciliation efforts under Yahapalanaya??)
Native Vedda has always supported peace, reconciliation, restoration of dignity, protecting habitat and environment, democracy, equality, freedom, ………. unity in diversity (as opposed to integration) …………………
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Native Vedda / August 28, 2015
Arun
By the way No Truth No reconciliation.
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justice / August 24, 2015
Tamils abroad are in constant contact with kith & kin back home and know the truth of what is happening.
They meet to discuss their concerns mainly.
The political schenanigans going on are in the media and they are concerned about outcomes for the future.
Eelam is a distant dream and is almost dead.
These organised meetings mainly are like ‘flogging a dead horse’.
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A / August 28, 2015
NATIVE VEDDA,
I cannot reply to yourinesponse as ‘reply’ has been disabled. Hope you are not the cause?!! You talked about certain years . Yes it happened IN all the nations I mentioned and had their fair share of similar events. They have moved away from mourning and united for development. Thanks to the unfortunate events Diaspora too enjoying good life in developed countries. None of them will come back as they enjoy a good quality of life.Even the man who screamed from UK is towing the line like GTF/BTF etc. So called native and diaspora can scream but TNA under the intelligent leadership of Sambanthan and Sumanthiran will work with the government. Japan did not keep crying over the A bomb. Now it is a key ally of US.
DIASPORA’S DOOMS DAY THEORY WONT WORK.DIASPORA IS A SPENT FORCE
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jansee / August 24, 2015
Whether the “London Group” ought to be chastised, as many have willed here, will all depend on how the govt of the day paves the way to conduct and carry out the accountability issue followed by the overtures towards and in attaining reconciliation.
It is not just the diaspora Tamil groups but also international intervention became possible because of the many bluffs, lies, tortures and murders by successive sinhalese regimes. The ball in actuality is in the court of the current sinhala govt. Writing “nonsense” etc simply shows the bankrupt and empty brains as if when the Tamils were helpless and defenseless against a brutal regime that somehow pathetically enjoyed hurting the Tamils with the sinhala majority clapping hands as if they enjoyed the show, it was overseas Tamils who made the noise and to a large extent catapulted the UNHRC resolution.
There have been some positive outlook and changes with the butcher and his sidekicks dumped and I believe it is these changed circumstances that have received cognition in the London meet. But it is still too early to tell whether the current govt will go the way to meet the Tamils’ aspiration “to mind their own business” within a united Sri Lanka. Comedians making comments as if the heaven has fallen into the laps of the Tamils inexcusably upload a flock that seems to believe that the way the wind blows carries with it the truth and right.
True, the govt has given hope but hope would me meaningless if that is not translated into a positive mapping.It is for the govt to prove by translating its promises into meaningful actions. Save on the issue of accountability, it is within the capability of the govt to honour its promises. Remember the LLRC, the money and time spend, wasn’t it just a whitewash.
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Eelatamilan / August 24, 2015
Dear SL clowns,
a) Tamils and Sinhalese can never ever live together. Biologically we may be one race, mentally we are two
b) History clearly shows the number of promises made by SLGOV. “we will do this do that for Tamil bla bla”. Disappointments!! The new GOV wont make any changes.
c) There are 3 types of Tamils – 1)Cowards who fled the country – 2) Brave ones who stood-up, fought and died like a hero – 3) Cunning foxes without dignity. Who will lick the SL bum for their own benefit.
d) You Sinhalese needs to start following the right buddha or kick out those in SL. You all are disgrace to buddha and humanity
e) The war is not over YET! We all know how you won the last battle in 2009, with the help from the west and india (if u dont agree to this, please take a course in SL warfare, I think its available from Lynda)!!
Your army is weak. If you want, lets have another battle but without any help from west!
f) Thanks SLGOV, Tamils have empire all over the world!
finally there is one more type of Tamils, its a small percentage out of those who fled. Watch out for them, they are your nightmare!
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D-John / August 24, 2015
Be pragmatic. The only way we can achieve anything is by going with the international community. Did you achieve anything with the war? If we had a little bit of wisdom we could have achieved much much more with the Thimpu negotiations.
A separate country is a non-starter given today’s geo-political realities. What we must aim is to win Thimpu principles first and maintain our relationship with the international community. Just think, with Mr Ranil wickramasinghe and Chandrika Banadaranayake controlling the main two parties, this is the last and best opportunity we will ever get. The Sinhalese are still licking their wounds after a double election defeat and now is the time to work with the international community. If we spoil this opportunity and the international community gets distanced with us it may be bye bye for the Tamil struggle.
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Native Vedda / August 24, 2015
Eelatamilan
“Tamils and Sinhalese can never ever live together. Biologically we may be one race, mentally we are two”
Both should be confined to an open mental asylum.
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Dravidian / August 24, 2015
Sinhala barbarians cannot reach the heights that the Tamils are achieving around the world. Singapore, Malaysia are classic examples of Tamils glory! Sinhalese are good for destruction and Tamils are hardworking, progressive and achievers – Late Hon. Lee Kuan Yew has said in his book – The Hard Truths;
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / August 24, 2015
And then there’s you, howling on here in between stacking tinned fish, letting the whole superior high IQ team We Thamizh down :D
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Arun / August 25, 2015
Dravidian,
This false thought made Tamil Diaspora to support LTTE and thinking Prabakaran is invisible. Need not further amplify as results stands as absolute testimony. Nor race or religion is superior; it is only the environment , opportunities and availability of resources will make people to prosper.
All Sri Lankan’s are yearning for these.
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Native Vedda / August 26, 2015
Dravidian
“Sinhalese are good for destruction and Tamils are hardworking, progressive and achievers – Late Hon. Lee Kuan Yew has said in his book – The Hard Truths;”
Another hard truth, a section of very stupid Tamils supported a Psychopath whose only purpose in life was to destroy anything and everything, including life, property, goodwill and friendship among people, sympathy from outside world, ……………. loved terror, and basically destroyed humanity.
Those “hard” working stupid Tamils were cowed down to part with part of their hard earned income. Those shameless enforcers are free now to enjoy their “collection – Kappang” without any remorse.
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Tamil from the north / August 28, 2015
Eelatamilan – let me teach you some mathematics boy based on your comment above;
You wrote: There are 3 types of Tamils – 1)Cowards who fled the country – 2) Brave ones who stood-up, fought and died like a hero – 3) Cunning foxes without dignity. Who will lick the SL bum for their own benefit.
My conclusion: If you are a Tamil, which you proudly proclaim you fit into one of these. So, which one are you? No way you could be #2. Hence, you are either #1 or #3. I hope you get my drift.
I am part of the Tamils who fled the country as I did not want to get killed or kill someone. All I want is the peace I enjoy in Canada to be enjoyed by all in SL. You are deranged and quite fatuous. See a shrink you mental retard.
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Arul / August 24, 2015
You Tamil groups plan and discuss your future where ever in the world you are
now living in comfort and leave the Tamils living in Sri Lanka to plan their
own future there.
Stop stirring the pot and meddling in affairs best left for their own representatives to handle because they know the ground situation better than
you guys do. The political path in Sri Lanka is like finding your way out of
a maze. And your talk of Eelam etc is not going to help the delicate situation
there. Tamil Eelam has flown out of the window and that is the absolute reality.
Sri Lanka now has a Government which is seeking peace with the minority, an
offer which needs serious consideration. It’s time the Jaffna man who always
lived in his own dream world in Jaffna, isolated from the rest of Sri Lankans
and were strangers to the rest of the population outside Jaffna, must now
adjust his thinking and accept himself/herself as a Sri Lankan, and therein
lies the proof of the pudding!!
Cheers for a united Sri Lanka!!!!
Arul
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Patriot / August 24, 2015
I’m amazed that so many posters are complaining about this simple meeting. After decades of waiting, the international community has finally decided to listen to the case of the Tamil people. It is the duty of every Tamil person not just in the Diaspora, but on the Island as well, to engage with the process as best they can. At the very least, read the OISL report (which will no doubt be published in both Sinhala and Tamil) and listen to the proceedings at the UNHRC.
When visiting Jaffna, one of the things that strikes you is the sheer number of empty houses. Street upon street of houses which are seemingly abandoned. If you ever wondered where the owners are, well, they are the same people who are meeting in Harrow. Just as they or their representatives would appear in court if their property in Jaffna was under litigation, they are doing what they can to make sure their interests are represented when the fate of their land in Jaffna and the NE is decided upon at the UN.
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Maveeran / August 24, 2015
Tamils in Srilanka are more depended on their relative Tamils around the world than your Sinhala goverment. It was the case since the civil war started in Srilanka. First tell your sinhalese brothers to give the same respect and resources that were provided to them by the Srilanka goverment. Then only the Tamils around the world will join hands for the betterment of all. Reason Tamils drifted away was because of the Sinhala racism. Treat everyone equally as human beings first. To prove that all the Tamil genocides commited by the racist war crminals must be punished and brought to justice. Peace be with you after that.
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Tamil from the north / August 24, 2015
@Ealatamilan, you wrote the following:
There are 3 types of Tamils
1) Cowards who fled the country
2) Brave ones who stood-up, fought and died like a hero
3) Cunning foxes without dignity. Who will lick the SL bum for their own benefit.
I assume you are a Tamil from this comment and please read my reply;
You cannot be #2 as they fought and died. Therefore you could either be #1 or #3. Which one are you?
I can add a small piece to your #1 – Cowards who fled the country and became keyboard warriors who fought the war with words from a safe place abroad. Are you in this category?
or you belong to #3, which is disgraceful to be like JRJ a cunning fox that is.
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The Rogue Ayer / August 25, 2015
Tamil from the north,
Are you feeling ok? No fever, intoxication or sudden mental instability?
This is the first time I mostly agree with your comments.
I had classified you as a key board warrior living in the past.
Thanks.
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Tamil from the north / August 26, 2015
@The Rogue Ayer, last time I checked my temperature was within good control and no mental illness. But if I continue reading your rubbish, there is a great possibility of creating mental instability with possible attempt at suicide. I hope this answers you deep concern for my wellbeing? Please let me know if you any other questions :)
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Park / August 24, 2015
Tamils have categorically told the Diaspora, keep off our affairs by voting Tamil Arasu Katchi. Its time all the diaspora groups retire and look after their own interest in their countries of residency.
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Sellam / August 25, 2015
There are no proper, intelligent, unselfish educated Tamil politicians in Sri Lanka. Although the Tamils depend on their present leaders, they are not too happy about them. There is no alternative for the Tamils in Sri Lanka to look forward to except the Diaspora Tamils. They too have failed because they cannot do anything but shout from their doorsteps. As army commander Sarath Fonseka once said ” The Tamils have to be satisfied with what is given and not ask for more. That is the attitude of the Sinhala regime. Mr Sambanthan is highly satisfied with President Sirisena and the release of lands in Sampoor. There is no mention of more than 10,000 acres of private lands held by the army in Vali-North . There is no voice heard from CVW. Why? Rail has used his wits to split the TNA and CVW and the TNA had fallen foul.
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K.A Sumanasekera / August 25, 2015
PM Batalanda Ranil can’t even give his mate , Galleon his Yahapalana Mk 1 gig because of Mahendran and Bloemendhal.
And Diaspora Academics, Journalists and Elite have travelled all the way to Harrow, to help PM Rudrakumran get his Eelaam.
Poor Batalanada is under the pump .. Isn’t he.
No wonder BL Ranil told the Indian Express, which I guess is the English rag of the Hindustan Elite, that , he will change the Constitution to fulfil his MOU with Sambandan , Sumnathiran and Surendran.
Can he do it ?..Any takers…
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Thanga / August 25, 2015
An erroneous impression is created that apart from TCC, BTF and TGTE there are no other groups that support the TNA. In fact GTF, CTC, TNA (Canada) and TNA (UK) all jointly supported the TNA in the elections that was concluded on the 17th August. Of course the former groups are more vociferous and can organize protest meetings, burn US resolutions and set fire to Sampanthan and Sumanthiran effigies, but beyond that they have no influence over the people of Northeast. The results of the elections show the ACTC/TNPF have negligible following despite all the “show” they displayed during the elections with heavy funding from TCC and ICET (International Council of Eelam Tamils). The ACTC/TNPF suffered humiliating defeat losing deposit in 4 electoral districts (Vanni, Trincomalee, Batticaloa and Amparai) and managed to survive in Jaffna electoral district be a mere 6 votes. By dividing the Thamil nationalist votes like last time they gave a seat to the UNP! In Trincomalee for example the vote base of TNPF decreased from 2010 to 2015 by 38 votes (0.22%) when they only mustered a total vote of 0.63% in 2015. TNA on the other hand increased its votes by 12,626 to 45,894 votes.
In the Vanni, TNPF only won mere 1,173 votes, which was 0.71%. In contrast the TNA polled 89,886 votes, which was 54.55%.
So clearly the pro LTTE Diaspora backed the wrong horse and lost despite clear warning by those who were conversant with ground reality. In some districts independent groups scored more votes than ACTC/TNPF! The Thamil people will never accept the leadership of Gajendrakumar Ponnambalam not only during this birth, but also in the next birth. This is because of the sordid history of ACTC under the leadership of his father Kumar Ponnambalam to some extent and grandfather G.G Ponnambalam to greater extent. Hearing Gajendrakumar hate speech and vitriol spewed on election platform was reminiscent of the haughtiness, lack of foresight, honesty displayed by Kumar and GGP. It is time pro LTTE organizations give up their fantasies and accept ground reality. They should not be seen as leading a comfortable and luxury life abroad but ask the less fortunate people of Northeast that they do the battle with the Sinhalese government. Mercifully, Rajapaksa’s efforts to stage a come back to power has been narrowly thwarted. Using the communal card once again failed. Rajapaksa during his tenure in office heaped humiliations on the Tamils in the north, in a brazen display of the arrogance of a conqueror. He had nothing but total contempt for ordinary folks when he gave away 818 acres of residential land grabbed by the army to Sri Lanka Gateway Industries owned by his wife’s brother. Also, BBS and other communal forces have been soundly defeated. Now Sirisena/Ranil/Chandrika have the golden opportunity to right the wrongs of the past and enact a brand new constitution that is secular, guarantees equality, rule of law and good governance. History is on their side to unscramble the present constitution and usher in reconciliation, peace and prosperity through a new one. The time has come to throw overboard emotion and hysteria on both sides of the divide.
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BBS Rep / August 25, 2015
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bo / August 25, 2015
Go get a life!
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Eelatamilan / August 25, 2015
Tamil from north, (hold down you from north? sorry have u been living there all this years? or maybe you aint a Tamil, maybe you are sinkala vaduva who just moved to north, part of Sl strategy, and calling your self Tamil from north)
to clarify; my grand-parents are number 3, and I am number 4, so basically you singala ppl’s nightmare.
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / August 27, 2015
I seriously doubt anyone’s going to be having nightmares about you not keeping the shelves packed with Captain mackerel :D Now the Kwik e Mart isnt paying you peanuts to sit on a burlap sack and abuse the Starbucks’ WiFi from across the street – get back to work :D
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Tamil from the north / August 28, 2015
@Eelatamilan – I am not sure what the heck you wrote above this, I am sure it must be some vile racial garbage. One thing I cannot stand and understand is a racist. Vagabonds like you are found on both sides of the divide.
Firstly get to a foreign country, buy a computer and write and promote hatred back in SL and fight and instigate a war using a keyboard.
I for one, hated this damn war to the core. SL lost so many great people murdered by the hoodlums in Army uniform, JVP and all Tamil terrorist factions mainly the LTTE. What the Sinhala majority did to the Tamils, the LTTE did to our minorities (Muslims).
I was born and raised in the Jaffna town, not some village like you. I wonder where miscreants like you were during the war when 40,000 Tamils were being slaughtered by the SL Forces and the LTTE preventing the Tamils who were trying to cross over to safety in 2009.
I am 100% Tamil and bloody proud of it, but that does not make me develop any hatred for the Sinhalese. Majority of the Sinhala population are good people. There is a minority among the Sinhala people who are miscreants like you. You think we all Tamils are innocent angels? To start with we have you, an instigator at others expense, where are your children? I guess you got married and have children by now. I am also sure you are a proud dad of university educated kids employed gainfully in some good company. So it is time for you to rabble-rouse a war back home and watch the fun and talk about it maybe on a Friday night.
I left this beautiful country 30 years ago, therefore this answers your question whether I have been living there all these years. Can you explain what this SL startegy is you speak of? Are you like KA Sumanasekera imagining things every day you wake up that there is a conspiracy against the Tamils.
We Tamils never stood with each other, we always cut each others throats. Look around you!!! You have the audacity to come here and write this torpid comment.
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