27 January, 2023

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Tamils, Trincomalee And The Real Scope For Peace

By Elijah Hoole –

I was in Trincomalee for a few days after a long time. The trip was fantastic. But, fun aside, the trip was also a harrowing experience as a Tamil. The speed at which the history and heritage of the town has been reversed by the hegemonic state is remarkable.

EH 1For example, a huge statue of Buddha (annexed) has been erected right below the famous Koneswaram temple.

While I have little clue as to how the hot water springs of Kanniya came about, I know for a fact that the official version has now been reversed. The yellow signboard from 2010 (annexed) has been removed and in its place there is a signboard in Sinhala and English claiming that the wells were part of a Buddhist monastery. While it would take some serious research to actually validate this claim, one has every right to question the motive behind not using Tamil. If the historical claim is indeed true, what purpose does the government hopes to serve by hiding it from Tamils? In addition to the new Buddhist temple that has been built, there are signs of another being constructed. One wonders why. The entire tourism industry is controlled by the military. It was hard to find Tamil vendors around any of the famous tourist attractions that I visited. I wonder what the city will be like in 5 years’ time.

EHWhen the collective existence of a group is under threat and their place in history is consistently undermined by the state, what hope is there for peace? What hope is there for equality? What hope is there for justice? What hope is there for reconciliation?

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    Tx Elijah.
    Rajapkse family is rewriting history. I share your concerns.

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      Of course , you guys are try to claim everything in north and east belongs to Tamils, but that is not the truth, sinhalese people were live in those ares and they have their heritage in those area’s too, in Havelock town colombo Maura place , there was small kali amma statu and bo tree was there now built massive hindu kovil , hindu cultural centers by buying surrounding lands , Elija didn’t you see that , then before you write theses article , go and visit that temple then you can see how tamil people built their kovil in pure sinhalese area,

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        So then allow Muslims, Hindus and Christs to build up their churches, mosques and temples where they consider they should have them, because they are all srilankens.These are very sensitive issues…
        Not only the majority sinhalese us but also the minority folks should have the equal rights. If this is not the case, then sinhalese building new statues of this kind are provocative acts. No doubt about that. I know this having heard about the situation for the muslim communities in the UK and Germany. Predominant catholic folks protest not allowing them to build mosques as they wish. In the same manner, Gotabaya should be away from taking his own decisions – in the tamil areas. He or others should NOT have the right to do so. If they nevertheless continue doing that means – against UNHR convention, these buggers should be punished on international courts.
        Today land grabs, money extortions of Mervin styles have become normal to the folks – because folks are helpless. Nobody is to take their side.

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        “sinhalese people were live in those ares and they have their heritage in those area’s too”

        Where is the proof?

        The Sanskrit place names (what you call as Sinhala) or the Buddhist ruins that belonged to the Tamil Buddhists of the past will not prove anything.

        What happened to the sinhalese people who lived in those ares, did they run away to the South giving everything they had to the Tamils???

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          James

          Language replacement takes place when the right conditions are met, it could be either by design or default.

          Listen to Sinhalese and their brethren talking to their own people and count the number of English or Portuguese words that are intermittently used as if there is no differences between all four languages.

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          JAMES, You want to know what happen to the Sinhalese lived that area. The Portugese who burnt down the temple of Gokanna where today Hindu Kovil call Koneshwaran erected. If you want proof go to Portugese Archives in Lisbon and refer what the famous chronicler Queyroz written after details collected from missioneries who stayed in Trinco like Francis Xavier. In the chronicle there was no mention of hindu kovils in Trinco. And Portugese chased away the Sinhalese from that area.
          In 1920’s a small hindu kovil erected there and tamils start to worship it. Most of the hindu kovil in the East erected on buddhist sites. Most recent example is Lanka Patuna. Because of our soldiers there prevent erecting a kovil.

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      if you don’t know the history STFU!!!

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        Janath

        “if you don’t know the history STFU!!!”

        Interesting point, could you now elaborate on STFU!!!.

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      Learn about Sri Lanka’s history. Read about Somawathie Buddhist Temple and Dagoba and the massive city which surrounded it. Read Sansoni Commission report to know that the Second Sri Maha Bodhi in Sri Lanka was in Trincomallee but chopped down by the Tigers and a Hindu Temple built over it. Let us not go to the past, which would reveal other monstrous atrocities committed against the Sinhalese Buddhists by Colonial Powers and some stooges from minority groups.

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        Raja,

        How about the Gana Deviyo at the Koneswaran temple who was sent for a bath (“Gana Deviyo Naanda Giya”)?

        As Native Veddah repeatedly reminds us the Sinhalese and Tamils in Sri Lanka are from the same stock. Our stupidity comes from our roots!

        Dr.RN

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      Rajapakse family is brave enough to undo the many wrongs done to the Sinhalese Buddhists by racists.
      How did the majority Sinhalese Northern region, prior to the arrival of Colonial powers, gradually turn into a almost 100% Tamil monoethnic region by the time Prabakaran’s brutal ethnic cleansing campaign, coupled with colonisation of the North and East with Tamils from the estates and South India, ended in 2009, with this brutal man’s death. If the Government is serious about reconciliation, then, they must never allow, Wigneswaran and Sampanthan or any racist or foreigner to legitimise this illegal act by trying to prevent Sinhalese, Burghers and Muslims returning to their own homes in the North or buying properties wherever they wished to, just like the Tamils enjoy all over Sri Lanka.
      Was it Koneswaran Temple or some other temple that was built by the Tamil terrorists, with concrete poured over the root of the chopped down second Sri Maha Bodhi, in the East, to prevent it re-growing, during Mrs Badaranayake’s regime? There were many similar cases in the North and East over the past five decades. Are these acts legitimate?

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    what hope is there for the Jarrapassa’s in the after life ? shovelling sh-t ? ! I hear U Elijah, these [Edited out] are NOT True Budhists, or for that matter genuine in any part of their lives ! The one thing they have exposed about themselves is their Inferiority Complex, Godayas come to town !

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    You re wrote the history during the colonial period. We will rewrite the history of Trincomalee back to the Gokanapura days.

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      You shit Sinhala modaya write u r bull shit history, you can create u r moda history but u cunt cant hide…

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        DUMB DEMALO:

        You have only an Indian History and one of your own.

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          and where do U think SINHALESE come from Genius Jim Soft [Edited out] ? Mars !

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        Gokanapura days? I will be interested in any information concerning the era you referred to. However, the thought occurred to me on how history will capture the last 30 years in schools and texts.

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        J. Muthu, anger and abuse are clear signs of bankruptcy of facts to justify the bogus claims made by some racists in the Tamil community, whereas, the majority of Tamils are decent human beings, embarrassed by people like you. See the results of the recent Western Province elections, where there is a significant Tamil and Muslim population, but no TNA or any Tamil racist party to attract Tamil votes.

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      ravi,you want to go back and back into history or go forward into the 21st century and catch up with the likes of taiwan and korea and malaysia,singapore,Hk etc which were far behind us when we gained independence.The choice is yours really and the saffron modayas.

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        well said Shankar ! On this issue, I am ‘ashamed’ to say I am a Sinhalese bec. MOST of these ‘genius’ Sinhala Budhists only know to talk about the past ! They have no brains to look forward, other than to suck up to China and get the country indebted for the next million years ! I can vouch for the fact that, as an overwhelming ‘generalization’ Sinhalayas are MODAYAS !
        fU_k Jarapakses & BBS ! They are actually a huge stumbling block to the Sinhalese, but most Sinhalese are totally blind to them !

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      Absolutely. The Tamil clerks and peons hired from Jaffna and brought in from India were well placed to rewrite Sri Lankan history by the time the British took over. The Dutch had broken their treaty with the King, and as the king had depopulated the seaboard all along the Eastern coast, the Tamils gradually gravitated down to the South. The Sinhala place names were corrupted with an attempt to erase Sinhala history. The Muslims transplanted in the Mattakalapuwa and Muttur were powerless to oppose this migration. Stories of those who migrated with all their worldy possessions stacked in a bullock cart just over two centuries ago are aplenty. This is what the Tamils would have the world believe as ‘traditional’ homeland of the newly arrived.

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      Ravi Perera

      “You re wrote the history during the colonial period. We will rewrite the history of Trincomalee back to the Gokanapura days.”

      J.Muthu

      “You shit Sinhala modaya write u r bull shit history, you can create u r moda history but u cunt cant hide…”

      Stupid Ravi Perera & stupid J.Muthu

      All these years your people have been driving my people out of our land.

      Now you are driving me nuts.

      Get lost,

      Go back to your home lands in India. Fight for your land there not here.

      Please go.

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      Ravi Perera

      “We will rewrite the history of Trincomalee back to the Gokanapura days.”

      Its a good idea.

      As a result one day your future generations will end up as a people without history.

      Then they will start looking for those South Indian Silvas, Pereras, Banderas, Fonsekas, Pieris, Ranawakes,…. who rewrote the history.

      I may not be able to protect all of you, still I will try.

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    I was in Trincomalee for a few days after a long time. The trip was fantastic. But, fun aside, the trip was also a harrowing experience as a Tamil. The speed at which the history and heritage of the town has been reversed by the hegemonic state is remarkable.

    For example, a huge statue of Buddha (annexed) has been erected right below the famous Koneswaram temple.

    TAMIL TRIBALISM, RACISM, RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE, GREED, SUPERIORITY COMPLEX ALL IN DISPLAY.

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      yep jim,it was harrowing for him to see the buddha.I wonder how harrowing it would have been if he had seen kaliamma with her demon eyes.A chill would have gone through his spine and he would have freaked out shouting goni billa,goni billa.

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        Shankar,

        You Sinkalam you are a disgrace to your Sinkala race. You Coward you Apuhamy. aka Punchi Banda.

        Don’t worry mate wait until March 2014 when Tamil Nadu Army ( TNA ) are scheduled to arrive and we will reclaim every piece of Land.
        It takes a low grade Sinkalam like you to demonise a Goddess. But then I have first hand knowledge of what people like you do.

        In Kantalai Sugar Factory during the race riots marauding Sinhalese mobs like you after killing a Tamil Entomologist while returning back to celebrate the killing came across a Pilliayar Statute. They ripped it apart and threw it into a canal and wrote the following words which is the hall mark of your race.

        ” Pillaiyar Nanda Kiya “

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          ” Pillaiyar Nanda Kiya “

          It should be giya.I told you to get that jaffna accent into your dustbin.Next time when the mobs come and ask “sinhalathe,demelathe” and you say sinkala,they will chop you up.

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            Shankar you Sinkalam,

            Don’t be clever with your up country Sinkalam you Appuhamy.

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    there is a signboard in Sinhala and English claiming that the wells were part of a Buddhist monastery. While it would take some serious research to actually validate this claim,

    TAMILIZATION DID NOT WORK.

    one has every right to question the motive behind not using Tamil. If the historical claim is indeed true, what purpose does the government hopes to serve by hiding it from Tamils?

    IF IT IS HIDDEN FROM TAMILS HOW DID YOU GO THERE AND READ ?

    INSTEAD OF BICKERING WHY DON’T YOU PUBLISH THE COUNTER EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT WAS INDEED THE TAMIL HOMELAND ?

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      JimSofty

      “INSTEAD OF BICKERING WHY DON’T YOU PUBLISH THE COUNTER EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT WAS INDEED THE TAMIL HOMELAND ?”

      Tamil Homeland is in Tamil Nadu
      Sinhala Homeland is in Sinhapura
      Pali Home Land is in North India
      Prakrit Home Land is in Eastern India

      Sinhala/Buddhist Home Land is in their stupid mind.

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    When the collective existence of a group is under threat and their place in history is consistently undermined by the state, what hope is there for peace? What hope is there for equality? What hope is there for justice? What hope is there for reconciliation?

    It is full or RACIST Venom.

    what is the reconciliation that you are talking about ?

    Is this is the stuff you were taught about ?

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      [Edited out]

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      dear Jim
      You want evidence.
      Myths have to be replied with Myths.
      The Hot wells are believed to be the place where the last rights of the Mother Of Ravana, now Conscripted by Buru Bala Sena,a hindu Tamil King Of Ceylon.(Myth), was performed by Ravana.

      Arent you aware that Tamil too is an Official Language of the Country. Your MR proclaim on every occasion. Please answer why Tamil Language was Excluded.

      The Ruins of the Monastery Sinhala Buddhist or Otherwise is not recorded in any of the Topographical Sheets of the Past. Top Sheets dating Back to Pre Independance era are available.Please refer.

      At the Same time You may refer the Sheets Covering Mankulam Area Where a Saffron robe garbed Racist claimed the existence of a Ancient ruins of a Buddhist Temple at the site of the recently constructed Vihare.

      Please let us know who is a racist, who harbours Greed etc.

      You mean to say Tamils Can’t Read English. Or is the Sinhala version is also different form the English Version?

      Or are the tamils so racist that they do not and will not learn Sinhala.

      Have you forgotten the Tamil Buddhist Priest from Madras in the past and his contribution to Sinhala Grammar.

      Tamil are asking for the use of the Language. Not Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity or Islam.

      Also do not forget that Vast majority of Tamils in South India and present Sri Lanka were buddhist.

      Silapathikaram & Manimehala speaks dating pre Sinhala, at least written, Speaks Volumes by their Buddhist Background.

      Stop this Nonsense and speed up reconciliation.

      Live and let Live

      Levi

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        LEVI:

        Seela patikaram and Manimekali are JAINIST, a contemporary doctrine to buddhism.

        The Tamil monk you are talking about was Dravidean but not Tamil. that monk, in present day terms, was Thelugu.

        thelugu is second only to Hindi.

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    idiot

    The Military controls a lot of tourist hotels and assets not only in Trinco but all over the country , mainly in the south . Why cant the amazingly intelligent and rich Tamils set up their own businesses . and since when is having a buddha statue in Sri Lanka a big deal ?

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      Pinguththarayas of your kind would not see beyond.

      So long the majority is represented by you – that is a curse for this island nation.

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        you must be a pinguttaraya who waits for the govt to feed your big belly . Go do something useful instead if waiting for your begging bowl to be filled .

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        Samuel:

        See you don’t have even a Sinhala name.

        How do you understand what would sinhala people feel.

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        Samuel

        “Pinguththarayas of your kind would not see beyond.”

        Sorry you haven’t finished your sentence. Did you mean

        1. see beyond your nose

        or

        2. see bellow your belly

        This is an all important matter, could you clarify.

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    Excellent.

    They should have another Buddha statue ABOVE the South Indian kovil. And a mosque too.

    Tamil racists can’t stand this! Lovely.

    Trincomalee is part of the Muslim Eastern Province. Mohammad Najeeb is the Chief Minister of the Eastern Province. No more Tamil homeland nonsense in the Eastern Province. That nonsense was DEFEATED in Nanthikadal in 2009.

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      Fat “Mama” Fuk U Shima,

      Last time when the IPKF were here according to you they were involed in a TRADE WAR.
      But this time the Tamil Nadu Army ( TNA ) are scheduled to arrive after March 2014. The Buddhist Statute will not be demolished but relocated in Sinhala South. You can chose a place and my choice of place will be ……

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    Erase all Tamilian presence from SL.

    They belong to Tamil Nadu, not SL.

    What can’t Tamils with dignity leave SL to Muslims and Sinhalese and Tamils GET LOST to Tamil Nadu?

    No more riots, no more indignity, no more tears, no more violence, no more genocide.

    But Tamils have NO dignity!

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      Jaffna Tamils are former Sinhala people. turn them back again to Sinhala

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        JimSofty

        “Jaffna Tamils are former Sinhala people. turn them back again to Sinhala”

        Sinhala people are former South Indians. Go back to Tamilnadu.

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    You guys seriously need to take a chill pill. I don’t know why in the world you are being so hateful towards the Tamil population. They are people just like us trying to make an ends meet in this time of distress. First of all I don’t see why our tax money is going into building all these temples when the majority of the population is of Tamil and Hindu origins in these areas. They should be restoring the old Kovils and trying to build new ones. I have seen some Kovils there and they are quite beautiful and often located in some scenic locations.
    Regarding the history of the hot water springs. You are going to argue over that? First of all who the hell cares. If you don’t believe in the science behind it you are free to make up whatever assumption about it.
    We should not hate the entire Tamil population just because of a few indecent leaders.
    Rather than putting barriers between us, it is time to knock them down for a peaceful future

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      Shameera

      I am with you all the way.

      The way to Go!

      Levi

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      Shameera,
      A Sane Voice in a Mad Cacophony! Thank you.

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      You can donate whatever you like to build new kovils or renovate the ancient ones, and no Sinhalas would object it. In fact my wife had donated 25,000 to Musneswaran to repaint it the last year. But if you don’t like the government reminding the tourists and citizenry of our historical past tough luck for you mate.

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        Banda

        “In fact my wife had donated 25,000 to Musneswaran to repaint it the last year.”

        Your wife made a wrong choice. She should have donated the money to Sri Lankan Army benevolent fund.

        There are hundreds of head screwed up army men who need counselling more than white washing a temple wall.

        Temples don’t liberate you from your Karma, however services to people do.

        For a change, you try both “Love All, Serve All” and “Help Ever Hurt Never”.

        Could you pass this comment to your wife.

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          I did and she said that she wouldn’t believe it; she wanted to hear it in Vedda language.

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            Banda

            “she wanted to hear it in Vedda language.”

            She has to request it in my language.

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      As you would note above, the chill pill takers are referred to as modayas, and taken advantage of. It is the same chill pill that destroyed Asoka’s empire in India. It is time to pull yourself out of the drug induced haze.

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      Ah! another mad one. Greetings and good luck.

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    J Muttu,

    You shit Tamil bugger. This is our sinhala land your land is Tamil Nadu.
    You ugly refugee

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      and Ravi Perera can go back to North India where your ancestors (vijaya and his clan) were kicked out for being thugs (ouch ouch that hurts maaaan!!)

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        Probono Publico

        Ravi PERERA did not come from North India, He came from PORTUGAL- See his name-Perera!

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          Bullshit,the portuguese gave those names for their houseboys because they found that the sinhalese names were too hard to pronounce.If they had illegitimate offsprings they would give aristocratic names like fonseka,almeida etc,not the common masses names like perera,silva,fernando etc.

          pereras did not come from portugal,they came from the coastal areas of kerala and tamilnadu and settled in the coastal areas of southern srilanka and became sinhalese while others settled in the coastal areas of the north and became tamils.Portuguese conquered only the coastal areas of srilanka and the karawes were bumsucking them and were given high positions at the expense of the govi.They are more vociferous anti tamil than the original sinhalese bhuddhists in order to hide their identity.

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            Shankar You Sinkalam ,

            Don’t bullshit and following is the truth and not your rubbish.

            Pereira is a common surname in the Portuguese and Galician as well as Sephardic languages, namely in Portugal, Galicia, Brazil and other regions of the former Portuguese Empire.

            It was originally a noble Christian toponym of the Middle Ages, taken from the feudal possession of Pereira, Portugal, which in Portuguese means ‘pear tree’.

            The name also exists in variations such as Pereyra, Perera, Perreira, Pereiro and others. In Portugal there are some families with variations of the name although Pereira is by far the most common. The variants of this name are more commonly found in other countries such as Spain, Trinidad and Tobago, India (specifically Goa), and Sri Lanka. Pereire, for example, is a French variant. Many Portuguese immigrants to the United States, especially Massachusetts, chose to “Americanize” their surname to Perry.

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              “chose to “Americanize” their surname to Perry.”

              [Edited out]

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                Shankar you Sinkalam,

                You have joined the ranks of ela kola,( edited out)

                Nothing else to add is there. If you don’t know it don’t comment and make a fool of yourself with the following

                “pereras did not come from portugal,they came from the coastal areas of kerala and tamilnadu and settled in the coastal areas”

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                  First of all kali ask yourself the question whether they look portuguese.Why don’t you go to portugal and look at the facial features and the skin colour of the people there and come back to me.Then you go to the malabar and coromandel coast and see the people there and tell me whether the pereras are closer to which.

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      Coming from someone who started from a half animal, an inbred incest, the FIRST kalla thoni to the Island, half Tamil, and half Portuguese. Have a good look at yourself mate.

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      Ravi

      Read your History.
      You a Sinhalese? So Karapotha Perera is the Father of a Sinhalese. Like Basi, Percival, Cyril, Mathew, Solomon, West, Ridgeway, Dias, Don Stephen, John etc etc.

      Stop the Nonsense and learn to live and let live.

      levi

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      Ravi Perera

      “You shit Tamil bugger.”

      Could you define what shit Tamil bugger means to you. I would like to understand what that phrase stand for before I use it to praise Tamils/Sinhalese and TamilSinhalese.

      “This is our sinhala land your land is Tamil Nadu”

      Sorry, this is my ancestral land. Full stop. Your land too is in Tamilnadu. Please go, take your Tamil brethren with you.

      I won’t be surprised J Muthu joining you in Tamilnadu.

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        Native veddah, Please Read

        The Secret History Of Jaffna And The Vanni

        By Darshanie Ratnawalli

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      Ravi you Sinkalam,

      According to the 2001 census, there are currently 7.95 million Buddhists in India i.e.0.76 % of total population of India. This makes Buddhism the fifth-largest religion in India.

      Go back to India you Illegal Immigrant.

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    jimysoft

    “TAMIL TRIBALISM, RACISM, RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE, GREED, SUPERIORITY COMPLEX ALL IN DISPLAY.”

    It is not the superiority complex, it is the deep rooted inferiority complex. These guys have problems with all their neighbor (Neighbours of Tamil Nadu like Kerala, Karnataka etc)

    These Tamils have a peculiar mind set

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      “These Tamils have a peculiar mind set”

      and you have a racist mind set.All humans are peculiar to a certain degree.example you won’t know the peculiarities of your wife until you marry her and vise versa.Stop doing research and move on.

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        i meant racial research.Other research beneficial to mankind okay.

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        shankar

        ““These Tamils have a peculiar mind set”

        I hate to agree with him.

        However he knows what he is talking about as scientifically proven he too shares Tamilnadu gene with his Tamil Brethren in this island.

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          There are NO pure Veddas today in Sri Lanka though they are mentioned by Dr Spittle. What distinguished the pure Veddas from the rest of humanity was the small cranial capacity, of the order of 900 ml. compared to 1500 ml. This is fact and not meant as an insult.

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            ram

            “There are NO pure Veddas today in Sri Lanka though they are mentioned by Dr Spittle.”

            Let us decide that. We know who we are.

            Sinhalese/Tamil/Whiteman should mind their own business keep out of telling us what we have and how we use them.

            “This is fact and not meant as an insult.”

            There are other facts conveniently ignored by Tamils and Sinhalese.

            Genetically Sinhalese and Tamils are closely related to Tamils in Tamilnadu, a fact both find inconvenient.

            Go tell this truth to your Sinhala/Tamil brethren make them realise that their home land is in Tamilnadu.

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            “There are NO pure Veddas today”

            You don’t need to be a pure vedda to call yourself a veddha.Australia’s aborogines are now many are fairskinned but call themselves aborogines.American indians are also same.They don’t call themselves whites though now they are fairskinned.They are proud of their heritage and if they have native ancestry they call themselves the original natives of the land regardless of the fact that they may have mixed ancestry.

            The veddhas in srilanka must have lost their identity because there was no one to organise them properly.Now at last our Native Veddha has come as their messiah leading them to the promised land.Better late than never it seems.

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              Shankar you Sinkalam,

              The difference is that you are ashamed of your identity and that is why you hide behind a Tamil Name to send your Sinhalese Message. You COWARD Appuhamy.

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                “hide behind a Tamil Name”

                is shankar a tamil name?I will give a clue,ravi shankar.

                will be going to have some chappati with modi on saturday.

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                  No Shankar you Sinkalam

                  You have re written history.

                  Shankar is now officially a Sinkala Name. Well done mate.

                  “will be going to have some chappati with modi on Saturday”

                  Where does the above come in to the argument. Having lost the argument you are blabbering and it is just a human reaction

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      Ravi you Moron

      The only complex you have is DARK complex.

      Just look at Rambukawella ( The Chim…zee) and Sanath.

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      Ravi you Stupid Sinkalam,

      Here are some facts you

      1) Tamils have cast system not Tribalism
      2) Tamils are not Born Racist ( Unlike you)
      3) Hinduism is the most Tolerant Religion in the World
      4) We have no complex

      As regards you stupid observation about the Tamils having problem with Neighbours let me give you some facts.

      Rajani Kanth the Mega Star who found fame is from Karnataka

      Aishwariya Rai the beauty Queen stared acting in Tamil Movie is from Karnataka.

      MGR a Malayali ruled Tamil Nadu

      Chithira & Yesuthas both from Kerala are best singers in Tamil Nadu

      S.B Balasubramaniam famous singer is from Anthra Pradesh

      Kamalahasan ( Tamil ) has acted in hundred of Telungu Film

      The list is endless.

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    See this guy is talking about TAMIL but he does not have even a Tamil first name.

    ELIJAH is a MIDDLE EASTERN NAME.

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      Did it escape your notice that Elam was a province of ancient Persia.

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        Yes Ram

        We are the Moghul Empire

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        Ram ,

        I should have added we ruled from IMAYAM thoddu KUMARI varaikum

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    Quote “what hope is there for the Jarrapassa’s in the after life ?”
    Do not under estimate. A lot of scope.

    Low bred J.Muthu, the language you use is a disgrace to Tamil & your parents unless you are from the lowest Caste of Tamils.

    [Edited out] If you ran away, just remain where you are.Leave SL & trinco to us.
    Is this racism running down the veins ???????????

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      Thondamanaru

      “Low bred J.Muthu, the language you use is a disgrace to Tamil & your parents unless you are from the lowest Caste of Tamil”

      It is a “Tamil’s Problem” and not yours, please back off.

      “[Edited out] If you ran away, just remain where you are.Leave SL & trinco to us.”

      What does [Edited out] mean? Did you edit yourself out of the comment?

      What has caste got to do with J Muthu’s lack of articulation. If anything, you share his DNA, which means both of you are stupid.

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    The traditional name for Trincomalee is Gokanna.

    The present day Thirukoneswarm temple was built around 1956. Tamils may dispute it but they have no writing in chronicles or rock edits or old monuments to prove its an ancient temple. An inscription written in Sanskrit found inside the Trincomalee fort mentions that a person named ‘Chodanga Deva’ came to ‘Gokkanna’ [by name] on 14th Friday of April 1223. How come?

    Hoole may not know but there existed a Vihara called Gokanna that was built by the king Mahasen in the 3rd century. A Buddha statues belonging to the 01st century and a foundation of a shrine room constructed by King Aggrabodhi in 8th century was discovered by Department of archeology where the present day Thirukineshwaram temple is located. The Bo-tree which was there in front of the Kovil also belonged to that Gokkanna Vihara.

    Portuguese historian, De Queiroz says that the Gokana Vihara was a Buddhist temple until its Stupa was destroyed by Portuguese Trincomalee’s ruler (1618 – 1622) Costantino da Sa de Noronha while Buddhist monks were still in residence there.

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    If I am correct majority people who lived in Trincomale were Sinhalese, and Trincomale earlier known as Gokanapura. Having the famous Buddist Temple Seruwawil in Trincomale proves beyond any doubt the place should have occupied by Sinhalese even before the Portugees domination. If you take and analyse the statics of Colonial time it proves beyond any doubt that Trincomale was mainly a Sinhal Pura.
    From recent times I have noticed Hooles are trying to rewrite the Sri Lankan history, but Holes may not be able to create many other holes, as most Sinhalese are learning about SL history. In Trincomale there was 32 Buddist Temples in early 50s, and it is a significant proof to say there were Buddhist living in Trincomale than Tamils, as Tamils had 2 or 3 temples in that area.

    MR. Hole before you accuse anyone try to learn about SL, and the occupants of the Top end before White man dominate the country for 132 years, other wise people may think you are trying to. Mislead the woyrll’

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      How did Anugramam become Anuradhapura, Kathirkamam become Kataragama, Pavatkulam became Padawiya and Manal Aru became Welioya ?

      Probably the same way Wellawatte is becoming Vellawathai!

      Dr.R.N

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        Dr. Rajasingham, I think you change from your moderate instance to pro-LTTE megalomaniac instance by getting examples from Tamil Net. Anuradhapura in the ancient time call Anuradhagrama. Katharagama or Padawiya also same. As once I told you that adding tamil nouns such as gamam,malai,puram,ai,ei,aru at the end of sinhala names you cannot say those derives from tamil names.

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          noel-jones-
          see Dr RN’s last sentence. What he is saying is that people change pronunciations according to their Lingo.
          e.g. Kande-uda-Pas-Rata became Kandy, Gaalla became Galle, Kalutara became Kalchuraa etc.etc
          Even Sri Lanka’s name has changed so many times according to the Greeks, Arabs, Portuguese, Dutch, English that we have almost forgotten how it all started.
          Encyclopedia britannica says:-
          “The Arab name ‘Serendip’ is a corruption of the Sanskrit compound Siṃhaladvīpa”

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            Rationalist,

            The name ‘Serendib’, is of Arabic origin and means peaceful, serene and calm. The English word ‘Serendipity’ has the same roots.

            Where is the ‘Serendib’ we were once and why? Intolerance ,pseudo-nationalism and tribalism!

            Dr.RN

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            Incidentally, Subramanya Bharathy- the great Tamil poet of modern times refers to our Island as ‘ Sinkalatheevu’ . Further, this Island is also referred to as ‘ Eelam’ in much older- Sangam literature. If the Ramayana has a historical basis, its greatest King was Ravana- a Rakshasa who worshipped Lord Siva and sang in Karnatic ragas. Eelam may have referred to the land of the Elu people, who later became the Simhelu /Sinhala and Demela/Demalu/ Damila/ and in recent times the Para-Demalu.

            Both the Sinhalese and Tamils of today have manifold reasons to be proud of and ashamed of as the current living of a very ancient lineage that goes much beyond the horizons we now glimpse. We have also not remained a constant entity. We have continuously expanded our gene pool and are better because of the hybrid vigour this brings about.

            On the basis of what I understand from history and literature the modern Sinhalese and Tamils in fighting each other are fact fighting the old Elu who have become over time Simhelu and Demelu . There have also reverted or morphed back and forth into either evolutionary paths several times over time. Both Sinhala and Demela nationalisms are not exclusive or subordinate to each other, but are expressions of a sense of belonging long held ,much cherished and shared. The divergence is rather superficial and may called artificial. They have to find convergence , if are to progress. The current CHOGM has become our lowest moment in modern history, because we have not pursued this convergence with vengeance.

            Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

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          Truth is above and beyond Tigerism! It is blasphemy to confound both. Pallavi is becoming Pallawiya and Uddappu is becoming Uddappuwa even now! Please explain. When will Nanjundankarai become Nanjundankaraya? Who is Sinhalizing Tamil names? Tamil Net is one website I avoid.

          Please study he demographics of Anuradhapura at the time when SWRDB (as Minister of local government) declared it a sacred city and before the 1977 riots.

          Dr.RN

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    Dear Elijah,

    The below links give some factual insight into history of Thirukoneswaram temple. Just check whether it’s completely fabricated or it makes any sense.

    http://rebelofkandy.blogspot.com/2009/08/gokanna-viharaya-in-trincomalee.html

    further you can check the mentioned references, mainly from “non sinhalese” sources.

    1. Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society (Ceylon Branch)
    2. Paranavithana,Senerat Inscriptions of Ceylon.
    3. Epigraphiya Zeylanica
    4. Spolia-Zeylanica
    5. Ancient Ceylon-The journal of the Archeological Dept.

    You dont need to be an expert; if your effort is honest and impartial in finding the real story, it is not really difficult in finding some facts from the web. Then all what matters is giving it a fair logical analysis and come to a reasonable conclusion if undeniable proof exists which i believe you have missed completely. This is the problem with most critics including you, just want to see only through your colored glasses and from your POV only. And you want others to see what you want? do what you like? isnt it?

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    Thank you Elijah.

    Please ignore the riff raff nonsense here. Trincomalee is Tamil as the name itself suggests. The word Gokarna or Gokanna itself is Hindu.

    If the Tamils are to return to India as Sinhalese racists allege, the Sinhalese should return to Bangladesh!

    Keep up the good work Elijah and may all blessings be yours.

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      Gokanna Viharaya is Hindu too.

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        Jim Sooty,

        Nee Thamila

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    And all kudos to Shameera Wijesooriya – a sane voice in the Sri Lankan wilderness.

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    Mr Sri Lankan,

    “Sinhalese should return to Bangladesh”

    Are there Sinhalese in Bagladesh. Sinhalese are indigenous to this island.
    The Hela tribes with time evolved into Sinhalese with contributions from Indian immigrants.
    Today what people call Hindi is the language that was known as pali during Buddhas time.

    No one has the right to ask the Tamils to go back to India. These comments are coming probably as a response to the mythical Tamil homeland concept.

    How on earth can Tamils claim 28% of the island as their homeland. Historical facts nor the numbers justify this nonsense

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      True.

      If Sinhalese came from Bengal or North India there should be Sinhalese there.

      But I found no Sinhalese in those countries.

      There are 65,000,000 Tamilians in Tamil Nadu. SL has only 3,000,000. Flush them out of SL to Tamil Nadu. Shitt belongs to the toilet.

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        But they have no toilets there. I see them sit and then stand-up by the road side culverts.

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          That is no reason to creep into SL.

          Because in SL hot iron rods are used to PREVENT them from crapping everywhere.

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            Fathima Fukushima

            “Because in SL hot iron rods are used to PREVENT them from crapping everywhere.”

            Is that why you stop doing that in the middle of the house?

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        Fat ” Mama ” Fuk U Shima,

        You really are illiterate and this for your information.

        According to the 2001 census, there are currently 7.95 million Buddhists in India i.e.0.76 % of total population of India. This makes Buddhism the fifth-largest religion in India.

        Stop making yourself more of an idiot than you already are.

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      Ravi,

      We appreciate your excellent contribution to this web site.

      Keep them coming.

      Intelligent Muslims are with you.

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      Ravi Perera

      “Are there Sinhalese in Bagladesh. Sinhalese are indigenous to this island.”

      Go away.

      My people don’t give a damn whence you came from. All we want is our land back.

      “The Hela tribes with time evolved into Sinhalese with contributions from Indian immigrants.”

      Hela is a manufactured tribes for the sole purpose of grabbing the entire island from my people.

      “Today what people call Hindi is the language that was known as pali during Buddhas time.”

      Origin of Hindi can be traced back to Sanskrit through Prakrit and Apabhramsha. Not Sinhala.

      Hindi has been influenced and enriched by Dravidian, Turkish, Farsi, Arabic, Portugese and English. Not by Sinhala nor by Pali.

      “No one has the right to ask the Tamils to go back to India.”

      I have.

      “These comments are coming probably as a response to the mythical Tamil homeland concept.”

      A response to the idea of chosen Arya, Sinhala/Buddhist, Vijaya,
      Man/lion Mahawamsa myth.

      “How on earth can Tamils claim 28% of the island as their homeland. Historical facts nor the numbers justify this nonsense”

      How on earth the descendants of 700 thugs claim 100% of the land, resources, all the rest of it?

      The land and resources belong to us.

      Full stop.

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      Who said Tamils claim only 28% of the Island,what about the rest.When it has been theirs for ever!

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    The Sinhalese by our own mythical narrative – the Mahavamsa – arrived from Bangladesh. Vijaya was the son of the king of Lata who was exiled for disobedience. His father was the produce of a lion raping a princess!

    Sorry folks – Trincomalee or Tirukonamalai is Tamil.

    Elijah is an excellent chap and you guys are perverts to attack him like that!

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    It is imperative that the demonstrated hate speech and the attempt on the part of teh regime to rewrite a history with a view to undermine a community’s rightful place in the history should be condemned and opposed by all irrespective of religion or race.such attempts are a slap on any attempt at post war reconciliation.

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    ELIJAH – A Christian Tamil is mourning about a Buddhist Statue near a Hindu Kovil.

    First study how you got the Christian FIRST NAME.

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    shame on Colombotelegraph.com for publishing these kind f crap… how can anyone write abt history without any references o sources … jst a brain washed idiot !

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    Demala Veddo,

    “Hela is a manufactured tribes for the sole purpose of grabbing the entire island from my people”

    is that so grandpa . Things you know. Did you learn sri lankas history in the jungles of mullativu

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      Ravi Perera

      “Demala Veddo”

      If cannot play the ball play the man.

      Don’t insult me.

      “Did you learn sri lankas history in the jungles of mullativu”

      You mean, from your Child protege, erotic writer, story teller, Irathina Valli.

      No from my elders.

      You should meet them and listen to their oral history lessons.

      I assure you they can teach you a lot however I am also sure they can’t drive your stupidity out of your head.

      There is one cure though, try not to sit on your brain.

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      Tamil bogus historical claims DIED in the beaches of Mulaitivu.

      Waterloooooo has a new meaning.

      Now Tamilians are boiling in hate for CHOGM in Colombo and Tamil Elam is not invited. :(

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        Now Waterloo is called Nanthi Kadaal.

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    Real history of Koneswaram http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koneswaram_temple

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      Anpu,

      Thanks for the reference. I wish the commentators will make the effort to read it.

      Dr.RN

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    The people who do nott know the real history please keep their mouth shut or go and make some real research. Tamilians does not only mean the people from the north!!! yes the government is building up the country very well but these kind of behavior should be stoped, no president or no government has the rights to change the history. but apparently it has been happening in srilanka, in all the places beginning from the social studies books used in school.and i do not think any one can stop this happening as we all know the powers of the government right now. the new generation will be taught fake history, the rights of tamil people the monument of tamil history and the historical places of tamilians should not be changed into any thing, no public is against of any religion. but few most important things should not be changed. as an individual i feel it is really shameful of the government to do such things, and also it shows the greatness of the religion. and how an evil spirit is trying to make it into dust! this land does not belong to one race. no one should separate us and no one should let anyone stamp on others. stay united.

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    The fate of Thirukonamalai (Trincomalee in English) is similar to what happened to Kadirgamam (Kataragama – Sinhala) The latter change came from the mid-1950s and the former in the past 2 decades. That Trinco is a Tamil majority area is established by the fact of dominant language, religious and cultural features of the District.
    Backed by the army currently the face of Trinco is being forced into a Sinhala area. This may be resisted in due time.

    Meanwhile, Ceylon/Sri Lanka’s slide began also after the Sinhala State forcibly Sinhalicing Kadirgamam. Will the same fate befall the country after the genocidal crime now taking place in Trinco only because the Tamils are small in number and helpless?

    R. Varathan

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    A huge Siva statue- disproportionate and ugly has also been installed at the entrance to the Koneswaram temple post-war. The beautiful Radhakrishna temple in Trincomalee was also built post-war. It is myopic to only notice something’s and not others! Please also visit the Kakjapalli area on the approach to Chilaw and see the beautiful and conceptually profound Murugan temple, built post-war. This temple is built in an area that is predominantly Sinhala now.

    Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

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    Hay Mr. Vedda,
    I told you many a time that real ancient people of Lanka are Yaksa, Raksa, Naga and Deva. Of them, Yaksa were the cleverest. The well known ‘Bisso Kotuwa’ is a Yaksa invention. And without ‘Bisso Kotuwas’ the tank technology couldn’t have come thus far.

    As for the indigenousness of Vedda, it goes only so far as Wijaya, a Kshatriya from India. Mahawamsa clearly says that Vedda tribe started with that Wijaya and Kuweni, a princess of the aforesaid yaksa tribe. Ramayana doesn’t even mention of a Vedda. That means, there weren’t any Vedda in Lanka when Rama came to fight Rawana and take back his princess Sita.

    Except for a few sketches in a cave or two, there aren’t any monuments or rock edits whatsoever for Vedda to prove that they are an ancient tribe than Sinhalas in this Island. Vedda has to refer to Mahawamsa for all their history. Perhaps interbreeding had given some of them a bit of different features to that of the Sinhalas. And that’s all.

    Australian aboriginals had developed the boomerang. Amazon aboriginals had invented moccasins, canoes and toboggans. But Vedda tribe cannot show anything as their own creations. Even the Vedda language has a lot of ancient as well a modern Sinhala words. Many of Vedda have intermarried Sinhalas. Somehow the Vedda are less than 2000 in number today.

    Yet this stupid man called ‘Native Vedda’ is telling all others to get out of ‘his land’. I bet the mad bugger is an east coast Vedda if he is a Vedda at all. No wonder, he doesn’t know that Wijaya is his greatest grand father.

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      Native Veddha is a Tamil.

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        JimSofty

        is a mutated South Indian.

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      Banda

      Yaksa, Raksa, and Deva are part of North Indian mythology. Nagas were thought to have lived in a Naga belt stretching from North west of this island to East India including Kerala and Tamilnadu.

      There is no tangible evidence to suggest Yaksa, Raksa, and Deva ever lived in this island.

      “The well known ‘Bisso Kotuwa’ is a Yaksa invention. And without ‘Bisso Kotuwas’ the tank technology couldn’t have come thus far.”

      You are talking bull.

      Read the following papers and educate yourself bit more so that we can discuss the matter in an informed manner:

      Intersocietal Transfer of Hydraulic Technoogy in Precolonial South Asia: Some Reflections Based on a Preliminary Investigation

      By R A L H Gunawardana

      Cistern Sluices and Piston Sluices
      Some observations on the Types of Sluices and Methods of Water Distribution in Precolonial Sri Lanka

      By R A L H Gunawardana

      Total Power or Shared Power?
      A study of the Hydraulic State and Its Transformations in SRi Lanka From Third Century to Ninth Century AD.

      By R A L H Gunawardana

      Social Function and Political Power
      A Case Study of State Formation in Irrigation Society

      By R A L H Gunawardana

      Hydraulic Engineering in Ancient Sri Lanka
      The Cistern Sluice

      By R A L H Gunawardana

      Irrigation and Hydraulic Society in Early Medieval Ceylon

      By R A L H Gunawardana

      In case if you are not familiar, Historian Prof R A L H Gunawardana was a world renowned medievalist.

      Read all those research papers only then we can talk about irrigation and sluices in an sensible manner.

      Also useful book:

      Ancient irrigation technology : sluice technology in Tamil Nadu
      By Professor Rajan, K. (Karai)
      Department of History
      School of Social Sciences & International Studies

      Publication info: 1st ed. ; Thanjavur : Heritage India Trust, 2008.

      “Mahawamsa clearly says that Vedda tribe started with that Wijaya and Kuweni,”

      If you believe Mahawamsa you will beieve anything.

      “whatsoever for Vedda to prove that they are an ancient tribe than Sinhalas in this Island”

      Please contact SU Dereniyagala for evidence. He has plenty.

      “Australian aboriginals had developed the boomerang. Amazon aboriginals had invented moccasins, canoes and toboggans. But Vedda tribe cannot show anything as their own creations.”

      Please refer S U Dereniyagala for further evidence.

      “Yet this stupid man called ‘Native Vedda’ is telling all others to get out of ‘his land”

      That was not a joke. It is not my land anymore because you stupid Kallthonis from North/South India stole it from my people. It is my ancestral land.

      ” I bet the mad bugger is an east coast Vedda if he is a Vedda at all. No wonder, he doesn’t know that Wijaya is his greatest grand father.”

      They could be your ancestors as you show symptom that is consistent with those who had experienced bestiality, parricide, incestuous relation. Your people continue to practice all three.

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      Aney Bando,
      Why do you have to take things so literally?
      Native Veddah is only trying to put all these Sinhala and Tamil Racist Commentators in their place.
      Forget your differences and think of everyone as Sri Lankan and we shall have Peace in our ‘Resplendent Island’ Again.

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