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Sangha Needs Cleansing

By Ameer Ali

Dr. Ameer Ali

When religion is politicised religious leaders lose their spiritual charisma and religious institutions become partisan players among competing political forces. This has been the sad story of Buddhism and its apex institution, Sangha, ever since SWRD began to exploit that religion and its monks to win his political battles. By the time he realised that by dragging Buddhism and the Sangha into political arena he had become captive to the demands of Sangha-backed reactionary forces within his cabinet could not turn his back on them. The moment he tried to resist their pressure he paid with his life. Regrettably, his successors did not learn any lesson from this saga except to continue politicising Buddhism and the Buddhist clergy to achieve and retain political power. Even Colvin R. de Silva, a Trotskyite and author of the 1972 constitution, could not escape leaning towards religion although he regretted later. It was his constitution, which made Buddhism the state religion. From then onwards the Sangha became a permanent player in Sri Lankan party politics.

Once the top echelons of the hierocracy started tasting the joys of political influence and power, it became only a matter of time before the demonstration effect percolated downwards to infect the lower ranks. Young members of the Sangha, with less commitment to monastic life and mort attracted by worldly pleasures, actively entered into the political arena. Soon they appeared on party political platforms canvassing on behalf of contesting candidates. They, in their saffron robes, participated, led and directed unruly and violent political demonstrations as happened in Aluthgama in 2014 and Digana in 2018. Contravening all Buddhist canons, they even justified violence on nationalistic grounds. At least one or two of them have even entered the country’s legislature as peoples’ representatives. There is nothing to stop them in the near future from holding cabinet positions. They will at least have a legitimate claim over the Ministry of Buddha Sasana. Is this the legitimate world of the Sangha? While Prince Siddhartha renounced all palatial comforts and worldly pleasures to attain Enlightenment, why are some of his disciples renouncing the enlightened path and embracing worldly comforts?

Politics is the art of the possible. The rough and tumble of politics allows room for corruption, nepotism, deception and many other forms of unethical behaviour. The term honest politician is an oxymoron. Sri Lankan politics, like in neighbouring countries, is notoriously corrupt. What is the guarantee that members of the Sangha who enter politics will not succumb to these evils? If they give in to such temptations, what sort of an image they create about the Sangha among Buddhist worshippers both at home and abroad? In the current political and ethnic turmoil the behaviour of a few monks have seriously damaged the reputation of this vital institution. It is time that the Sangha devices some internal mechanism to cleanse itself of the rotten apples. The need is there, but who should do it?

No outsider, and not even the government, can bring about the required change. Once a particular religion in a plural polity given the privilege of being the state religion its spiritual guardians sometimes forget to realise that their actions are not above the control of the secular laws of the country. However, the watchdogs of the constitution and political representatives in the parliament dare questioning the contraventions by religious leaders for fear of losing popular support at electoral contests. Rule of law breaks down in such situations. Thus, the task of cleansing the Sangha has to come from within. It can come either as a collective effort by the community of Mahanayakas or as an individual effort by a single charismatic monk. This has happened in the past and there is no reason why it cannot happen now. At a time when an aristocracy or ganinnanses, dominated the Buddhist Sasana and were more interested in rituals and worldly concerns than in the exegesis of texts and learning, there arose a charismatic figure and teacher par excellence, Valivita Saranamkara (1698-1778), who spearheaded the reorganization of Buddhism in Kandy. Within the Buddhist monastic community of today it is the silence of such reformers that has allowed the Sangha’s reputation tarnished because of the un-Buddhist behaviour of a few. Alternatively, leaders of Buddhist civil societies and learned scholars from the priesthood who are now heading various faculties in the universities can bring pressure upon the prelates to undertake such a reform. A reformed Sangha is an asset to every community in Sri Lanka.                             

*Dr. Ameer Ali, School of Business and Governance, Murdoch University, Western Australia

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    The Sangha was man made and so has faults.
    But Ameer, have you heard that people in glass houses (with or without solar panels) must not throw stones?

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      Nationality, race, ethnicity, language and culture are one and the same for 15 million Sinhala Buddhist’s. In contrast to Sri Lankan Muslims who constitute a insignificant part of the 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. Their Nationality is Sri Lankan. Race : Dravidian. Ethnicity : Moor ( Do our Muslims look like they came from Morocco , Algeria, Tunisia and Egypt ? ) Language : Tamil . Culture : Saudi Arabia.

      Where does Ali have the gall to advise the Clergy of a different faith ? In a country which he and his community have not even bothered to learn either the native Sinhala or English in order to progress despite claiming have lived on the island for thousands of years !

      Hey Ali here a headline for your Next Article : How to Bring Muslims from the 7th century into the Facebook era.

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        They never lived in the island for 1000 years but arrived from their Tamil South Indian homeland a few centuries ago. Islam is around 1400 years old and Arab traders hardly visited the island but visted South India and introduced Islam there. Few of them settled and married local Tamil Dravidian women but the vast overwhelming majority of them are Tamil Dravidian Hindu converts to Islam. Amir Ali himself stated in an article that when the Portuguese called all South Asian Muslims as Moors , it was did not mean race but used as a derogatory term, as they hated and looked down on the Moors from North Africa who ruled the Iberian peninsular and were chased out. All other South Asian Muslim groups immediately discarded this term 1) As they were not Moors from North Africa but South Asians 2) They knew it was used in a derogatory sneering way. Like the term ” nigger” used for people of colour. Only these Indian origin Tamil Sri Lankan Muslims latched on to this term, in order to hide their actual largely low caste Hindu Tamil immigrant origin and they felt being called Moor was more advantageous to them in largely anti Tamil Sri Lanka and in the Arab world. The British and then later the Sinhalese also encouraged them in this as it suited their policy to divide and rule. Sri Lankan government s and others also encouraged them to Arabise themselves and give up their Tamil Sufi Islamic culture dress names customs and way of life, especially during the war years, as it was further advantageous for them divide them further away from their Tamil roots and culture and consider them different, especially in the east , Now it has come back to bite them very badly

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          Look at this Australoid crow RSSS. He must be eagerly waiting for an article by Muslim so he can vent out his jealously and hatred by pouring his venom with all sort fabrications he makes. Here he says Moor is a derogatory term used by Portuguese like nigger but this crow does not know the term “Moor” used for the last thousand odd years not only by Portuguese but Spanish, French and British too. The story Othello was based on Moorish captain. “nigger” was used recently by racist American to refer to their slaves Black African. Black Africans race also know as Negro so they call them nigger. This bugger must searching the web to find out whatever he can about Moor since he couldn’t he made his own story like he had been doing in all his comments. Now you have established well that you belongs to Australoid crow race who lived in South India. They were tree climbers before Moors civilized them and his generation was supplying low caste Tamil prostitues to Moors.

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            Ralli Bin Balli, regarding Buddhism, it is only the members of the Sangha need cleansing. In the case of Islam, not only Moulavis, Mullas and Muftis but the entire religion needs cleansing. You are behaving in this manner because you have been brain washed by the stupid Arabs. How can you justify your statement that Moors civilised South Indians or Sri Lankans. Glorious landmarks of ancient civilisation in these areas proves that it was the Arabs who were tree climbers to pluck dates who were civilised by others. In ancient times high class Arab women had been prostitutes of Indian sailors who dominated the sea at that time.

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              Al-faqqar

              Who spoke about Buddhism. If it was the writer Ameer you ask for an explanation from him giving your intelligent views if you have some. You donkey, know that there is no priesthood in Islam. Only scholars or religiously educated persons like Moulavis, Ulemas and Muftis and we can kick out those rascals if they try to make religion is an exclusive domain of them and it is through them we have to connect with god. Muslim were taught they should connect with god themselves, not through anybody unlike you people who needs clergy. So you suck your clergy we are least bothered. Your glorious civilization history prove otherwise. It was Muslims who were seafaring people who monopolized up to China. Although there were one or two Chinese who ventured out but their ships was manned by Muslim sailors. Indians had only boats at that time, no sailing ships. If they had, there will be old Hindu and Buddhist settlement in those countries during the last 1000 years like Moors in India and Sri lanka. Can you name some of your communities there. You can just fabricate like Arab women prostituted for Indian sailors if there were ever Indian sailors those days. Indian women, specially Tamil women were prostituted for Arab sailors. I am not saying that but it was your Australoid brother RSSS who says that. He even says your chief Vannimalai gave women for Moor settlers. And also know there is no branches in Date trees so they were not tree climbers.

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                Ralli Bin Balli the donkey, do you know that sangha is part of the triumvirate of Buddhism (Triple Gem). Get yourself educated first before making stupid comments. When some one wants to clean Sangha, he is in effect asking to clean up Buddhism. If a non-Muslim asks a Muslim country to clean up Islam, he will be charged for Blasphemy. Have you heard in any country other than Islamic ones, where people have been charged for Blasphemy. This shows that all other religions are tolerant and accept constructive criticism. Islam sadly is an intolerant religion committing crime on others in the name of Islam. You are saying since date trees have no branches they were not climbers. Does other palm trees like Coconut, Palmyrah and Kitul have branches, for there to be no climbers. Stop praising Arabs who were an inferior ethnic group to both Aryans and Dravidians whose language and civilisation are classed as the pioneering ones of mankind. Your argument will be applauded only by bigoted idiotic Islamic world.

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                  Al-faqqulah your pullaiyar had an elephant head and human body and you have a donkey head and human body. I am not talking about Islam to you and neither Hinduism or Buddhism, I am just giving an answer to your comment. Yes there are coconut trees which you climb and many other trees which you climb. Who is praising Arabs? I am just giving answers which were based on facts unlike your fairy tales. Yes, because Aryans and Dravidians had language and civilization which were pioneering one for mankind until Muslims and later colonialist came and brought you down from trees. Have you got coconut trees in your area? I would like to come and see whether you are using modern technology to pluck coconut.

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                Mr. Ralli Ameen,
                ” If they had, there will be old Hindu and Buddhist settlement in those countries during the last 1000 years like Moors in India and Sri lanka. Can you name some of your communities there.”
                A gentle reminder. Some early Indian vessels are shown in the stone carvings of the great Buddhist temple of Borobodoer, dating back to about A.D.500. Some of these vessels appear to be catamarans or outrigger canoes, but one at least is a two-masted vessel under sail. And there ARE old Hindu and Buddhist settlements as far as Indonesia. Remember that these places were Buddhist/Hindu before they became Muslim.
                Don’t generalize on faulty assumptions. Are you also known as Shenali?

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            Ralli Balli stop blabbering and grunting like a madman and posting nonsense. What is this obsession with crows and Australoid? Is it because you are one? We know Muslims are also called Kakka( Crow) . This may be your obsession with crows and trees. You mean to say your ancestors were climbing trees( Nalavar or Naadar) in South India ,before they converted. If you do not like what I post them prove that I am wrong with evidence. Instead of resorting to abuse and blabbering. You cannot do this , therefore trying to shut me up by aggressively abusing me. However I will not.

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              RSSS

              It is you who is blabbering and grunting like a madman. You never comment relevant to the article that appears but straight away start bashing Moors. Why? Because you are an Australoid crow (those Tamils who still have 70% of Australoid blood) who have inferior feelings. I had given enough proofs to you but your low intelligent Australoid brain cannot understand that. It is you who do not have any proof to what you are saying. I don’t need to give proofs. You can see it by yourself if you see some of the old photos (around 150 years) in the museums and Archives department especially in British. You can see all your women bare breasted and men folk in scanty cloths wrapped around them, also shape and colour. Typical tree climbers. No need to shut, you keep on writing and I will keep on reminding you are an Australoid crow.

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                You are mad man an Islamic fanatic and a pathetic who hates his own Tamil origin and heritage and wants to worship everything Arab in the name of Islam. A joke. I have a strong suspicion you are pro ISIS, Very similar to their brainwashed rants. There is no point arguing with an idiot like you who will keep on posting the same garbage. I can imagine you frothing from your mouth whilst posting all this Arab superiority rubbish. Arabic is a beautiful and rich language and I can speak basic Arabic and most Arabs are very nice people. Please do not denigrate it and the Arabs by posting all this rubbish. One of the oldest and advanced civilisations in the world is the Indus Valley civilisation and it is Dravidian and proto Tamil . Most of what you now call the rich Indian culture is 75% Dravidian which means proto Tamil. Even the syntax lexicon of Sanskrit is purely Dravidian(Tamil) . Both Sanskrit and Tamil borrowed words extensively from each other. Tamil more so. However a language borrowing words from another language is not a big deal, as all languages do it, however a language borrowing another languages syntax and lexicon to express words and things shows the profound influence the other language had on this language. This is what Dravidian(Tamil) had on Sanskrit. I say Dravidian as Tamil as Tamil is the only Dravidian language has retained more than 85% of the Proto Dravidian vocabulary and words. All other Dravidian languages have not. Proto Dravidian and old Tamil are more or less one and the same language.

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        Native Sinhala? Thamizh has a longer history in the island and is far more native than Chingkallam . Chingkallam is derived from the native Elu which is Semi Thamizh . With lots of Pali and Sanskrit words thrown into the mix. Even as per your government Thamizh has the same status as CHingkallam ( He he). So why should they swap to a language that is only spoken by 16.5 million in the region and is not rich in anything , when their mother tongue is far more richer and spoken by around 100 million in the region. They are not stupid. May be Chingkallams should revert to speaking Tamizh. After all the ancestors of around half the so called native Chingkallam speakers were speaking Tamizh a few generations ago. Ask Chenali Maami she will know , as her Amma Amma , Thatha, Paati, Paatan were all speaking Thamizh in some fishing village in Tamil Nadu before they decided to jump on a ship and arrive here to become native Chinkalam speakers. At least whatever happened the Muslims never did this. They stuck to their language even amongst Chinkallams and it is they who proudly keep Thamizh alive in the south and will keep on doing this and we must appreciate them for this.

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      Dr. Ameer Ali,

      RE: The Sangha Needs Cleansing

      Yes, The Sangha Needs Cleansing.They are a Cult. They need to be taught Philosophy, not Buddhism.

      The Sangha Needs to be taught Buddhism.

      The Sangha is practicing Para-Sinhala “Buddhist” Cult-ism.

      All the Para-Sinhala Buddhists treat the Para-Sangha as the Triple Gem of the Triple Gem, and they need cleansing as well. Is it possible only when the mean IQ is 79!

      Mahawamsa is an Insult to the Buddha.- By Sharmini Serasinghe

      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mahavamsa-an-insult-to-the-buddha/

      In this “wonderland” called Sri Lanka, and in this day and age, one still comes across ‘academically’ educated, and supposedly intelligent ‘Buddhists’, but sadly lacking in wisdom, who reverently believe, that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb, and walked seven steps, while lotuses blossomed, under his feet!

      Buddhism The Great Evil — Part 1

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNOfTGSADdY

      Buddhism The Great Evil — Part 2

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clcs2PSze0I

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        Amarasiri Is either sinhala nd married to a muslim women but he doe snot like Islamization. So, he is kissing his wife’s but here thrashing buddhism.

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          Jim softy,

          Amarasiri is not thrashing Buddhism, as preached and practiced by the enlightened Buddha.
          Amarasiri is also not thrashing Islam, as preached and practiced by Prophet Mohamed.

          Amarsiri is thrashing and exposing all those fakes, aka Para-Sinhala “Buddhist” cultists, who are following Mara and Devadatta for theit own self-interest. The average Para-Sinhala “Buddhist ‘ with a mean IQ of 79, can’t figure this out.

          So the Para-Sinhala “Buddhist” Cultists will end up in Apaya for eternity.

          Sam Harris: Mindfulness is Powerful, But Keep Religion Out of It

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwac6Uk-zyk

          Amarsiri also thrashes and exposes all those fakes, aka Para-Wahhabi-Salafis and theit clones . “Islamic” cultists, who are following Satan, Iblis and Wahhabis for theit own self-interest,. The average Para-Wahhabi-Salafi “Islamist ” with a mean IQ of 79, can’t figure this out.

          So the Para-Wahhabi-Salafi “Islamic”” Cultists will end up in Hell-fire for eternity.

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            Well said Amarasiri

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        Yes , Shanga need to be re organised by eliminating all Racist Theravada Fanatics and selecting Good hearted and educated Bikkus. But even if changed with new Bold headed Theravadayas, we cant trust in full.
        Buddha did not establish a Religion but preached merely some self found philosophy only. He never claimed as a SuperNatural and to be worshipped . But after his demise, stupid followers made him as God and started to worship borrowing all rituals and superstitions from Hindu Puranas.
        The Buddha Never Considered Himself Savior or the Guardian of Truth. According to foundational Buddhist scriptures, Gautama Buddha claimed to be an ordinary man—not a God, superhuman, or prophet. The Buddha even denied that he was omniscient…
        Watch the Below Video Film and ponder the contents .
        Be educated . Dont be just blind believers..Think why this so called Ahimsa Philoshopy became a Barbarian followers called ‘ bikshu’ – nowadays ‘kaavi Terrorists’ in SriLanka and Myanmar. Buddhism is full of superstition and error. This film portrays the philosophy of Buddhism and its irrational practices. Those who regard Buddhism as a road to peace and contentment should pay close attention to the truths described in this film.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPPPBQEy2SA

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      Amir Ali forgot to mention how members of the Buddhist Sanga were leading mobs that killed murdered and destroyed Tamil people their homes and businesses in 1958, 1977 1983 but only mentions about incidents when it happens to Muslims and what happened to the Muslims is still nothing compared to what happened to the Tamils. Most probably like all the island’s Muslims , Tamils do not matter as they have been brainwashed to consider themselves Arabs. He also forgets to mention how Muslims mobs also followed and joined members of Buddhist Sanga to kill, rape, loot, burn Tamils , their homes businesses and belongings. Where were all these Muslim commentators then? Sitting on the sidelines enjoying all the fun and reaping the benefits , at the expense of the Tamils. Now coming here and posting article after article, decrying Sinhalese racism , as they are now the victims but joined the Sinhalese racists and establishment with glee, in persecuting the Tamils , despite being Tamil themselves. Like what you stated people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. They will keep quiet about the creeping Wahhabi fundamentalism and Arabisation of their own people and clergy.

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        Rohan,

        Unless of course Tamils didn’t start the incidents in 1958, 1977 and in 1983 there wouldn’t have been any pogroms.

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          Chenali Maami , we do not need more Lanka lies fairy tales in this forum. Please go and tell these tales to your moronic Lanka Lies fans, who think all the fairy tales that you write there are facts. How are Patta and Patti Amma Amma and Thatha in that little fishing village in Tamil Nadu? Do they understand your gibberish?

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        Rohan the member of Australoid crows, you always write about rapes, looting, killing by Muslim mobs. You also wants to make us Tamils. This time Muslim mobs joined with members of Buddhist Sanga and did all these. That means members of Buddhist Sangha are rapist, killers and looters. Have you got any proof, no just fabrications like your crow clique. We have solid proof of looting, killing and chasing Muslims from Jaffna and Sinhalese from other places. I also some time scold Buddhist monks but only dirty monks like Gnanasara and few others but here you are commenting filthy way about all Buddhist Sangha members. You and your cliques are really a filthy racist rascals.

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          Madman who cannot argue or debate intelligently but resorts to abuse and aggression , if he sees/reads something he does not like or agrees, even if it is the truth. We can see his inherent racism. and hatred towards Tamils by the way he resorts to abusing us in this forum. Australoid Crow , when ironically most Sri Lankan Muslims are descended from the very same Australoid or Australoid/Dravidian low caste Tamil converts whom he is abusing here. What is wrong with being Australoid, Negroid or whatever , these all human races and we are all descended from one African Eve. Shows his education low class and breed. He does not do this with the Sinhalese even when he does not agree with their posts. Proving what I stated.

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            Rohan as if you are arguing or debating intelligently. You shit rascal with your other Australoid crow always bashing Muslims. Definitely we are not of Australoid crows, that is proved by your own writings. Who is Sinhalese? I don’t care a shit of them and if they write like you same way I will do to them. Anything if you want to prove there is a respectable educated way to do this but you Australoid crows cannot do that. First you and your clique should learn to write decently.

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      Sangha Needs to practice Buddhism not just preach it
      well on the other hand they don’t preach Buddhism either …they preach racial hatred and greed

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    Ameer Ali: I heard, probsably by an NGO, or some foreigners had a census of the Bhikkus in Sri lanka recently. I have read that Definitely, Under PIVOT of Asia program, Five theravada buddhist countries all of which are around china are threatened. They want to show that buddhists and muslims there have problems. check Sri Lanka, Myanmar, thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Even during the recent anti-muslim violence. for the recent anti-muslim foreign media reported that there were three deaths including one muslim death. Muslims also attacked the police with sticks and three police officers had to be taken to the hospital. This PIVOT to ASIA program was announced very recently. Other than that, West wants buddha sasana in Sri lanka destroyed because that makes easy their programs. Even during the LTTE, Church was very influenctial. Now, there is no LTTE, it is 31% of minorities saying that we are superior to the 69% of sinhal buddhists. Govt also has supported the desrtruction of the bhikkus. There are so many points to write on that. HOw ever that foreign journalsits says that DAESH (ISIS or ISIL or ISlamic State) is operating in Srilanka. What you have written is wrong. SL buddha sasana enjoyed bette under the British. Eventhough the Buddhism is the state Religion. buddhism has suffered a lot after 1948. There is only one Pali canon. Canon exists in other languages in four other countries so five language. We use only the pali cannon. buddhism is a weak religion with respect to politics and power. So, it needs protection. Some bhikkus are material wealth and power oriented That is true. WE accept they are not saints. the role of many is to protect the buddhist civilization at least as the buddhist culture is destoyed. right now Srilanka is mostly christian and Islamic. they kill animals, adultery is common even among cabnet ministers. lies, alcohol, Csinos, EvenMobile brothels , foreign women are there to make men satisfied.

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      No religion needs state assistance. If Buddhists are in majority, why cannot they use their own money to protect their religion. Why should others pay taxes to protect Buddhism? Religion should not have any role in government.
      .

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        Or they can tax Sinhalese Buddhists extra tax and card carrying Sinhalese Buddhist Fascists like Jimmy going Soft, Champa the Chimpa, Blind Eagle. Bad Student. Lanka Lies Shenal and others even extra tax to defend Sinhalese Buddhism. Taxes of non Buddhist should not be used to defend Buddhism. Why should they pay taxes to defend a religion and religious leaders who are openly supporting their destruction and killing

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          Real Siva Sankaran Sharma,

          Well on the other hand, Tamils and Muslims also must know that it is Sinhalese people that bear the brunt of tax money that are spent on Tamil/Muslim schools, government hospitals and railways/buses. Sinhalese people do not complain about that and you should not too. If you don’t like to pay taxes in Sri Lanka you are free to leave the country.

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            Oh yes the poor poor Chingkallams , they just cannot bear the brunt of all these taxes, that they went around killing burning raping and looting Tamils and their possessions to pay these taxes and now after finishing off with the Tamils as there is nothing more to burn and loot , they have started on the Muslims. Who is next Chingkalla Christian. Andavane. Why this kolaiveri kolaiveridi? Maami Tax katungo Bikku needs a car. No tax no car.

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        That is true. There should not be religion related ministries. what Sri lanka needs is a Ministry of cultural affairs. Sinhala buddhist culture and civilization need to be protected via that. Because, that is endangered and we do not have to protect ISlamikc culture or Christian culture which exost else where. govt allows Muslims, Catholic, International schools (EVangelists), Tamil and spread racismand Bhikkus and buddhists should shut their mouths.

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      Gibberish Jim,
      You are blabbering. Your response has little to do with Amir’s article. He makes the point that the Buddhist Sanga needs to be cleansed. You have gone on a tangent spewing disconnected ideas.

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        The worst thing is when we say someone has no right of comment on matters in the public domain on account of his ethnicity.

        We are ALL Sri Lankans and we all enjoy the right to comment on anything that is worrisome. Dr Amber Ali has touched on a moot point.

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        GUJARAL: REad my comments. What he is saying is Muslims, christians can continue their social engineering, their extremist activities to destroy buddhist civilization. Bhikkus should not talk and instead stay in the temples and follow the practice. Gujaral You are stupid. They all come, including protestants, along the tangents and We have to read inbetween lines andunderstand what they say.

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          Jimsot..

          Many more we insist you Not to write comment when YOU ARE DRUNK
          ‘ KASIPPU’ and ‘ GANJA’….

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      Here another idiot Jim softy following his master’s footstep. Whatever his master’s write in the media this rascal too copy. Are you a Christian or just a licker? If foreign journalist says ISIL is operating in Sri Lanka why don’t you pass that information to your intelligent service. If your intelligent service is run by donkeys like you then what you says is true. Animal is killed only for food. 99% of your forces eat beef and majority of your people eat beef. In all the Buddhist countries pork and beef are cherished food for them. Who takes alcohol? It is your people. Who owns casinos and gambling houses? It is your people. Lies is a game that everyone follows. Who owns brothels? It is your people. Local women fetch little money so they import foreign women. To protect Buddhist civilization first follow ISIL, go and kill all those bad people.

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    Remember Sri lanka, Myanmar, thailand, Laos, Cambodia are all majority buddhist countries. but we are not allowed to run as they run”ISLAMIC republics. Or as the Anglican queen wants. there are many such christians and Islamic kingdoms or countries. that is why we are asking a buddhist PResident and buddhist PM and not these converted buddhists. both Mahinda rajapakse and Ranil are converted catholics and anglicans who has other things in their mind. they are not true buddhists.

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      Jim softy the headless, you have to follow some country if you want to live like others. Western countries are very very rich so you are following them if not the religion. Muslim countries some are rich and others wants to be rich so you are following them if not religion. Some eastern countries are rich so you are following them and some are Buddhist. Buddha preached to attain nirvana you have to give up everything especially greedy needs. Tell me in Sri Lanka who is following that. Even your monks don’t do.

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    A A.
    Makes sense.
    But , let’s get back to the basics! Always there is a big “BUT”. Brilliant Sri Lankan, Dr. Colvin made this mistake i.e. ” leaning towards religion “.
    Get rid of Buddhism as the state religion; Politics and Religion don’t mix well.
    Let’s face it.

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      AA
      Tell that to the Vatican, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, England, etc etc with a request that the religions they patroniseshould not be allowed to exclude others.

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        Percy the pathetic

        “Tell that to the Vatican, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, England, etc etc with a request that the religions they patroniseshould not be allowed to exclude others.”

        What is your message to godless atheist land grabbing capitalist/communist China? Will you be able to repay the billions of Chinese loans before you open your mouth? How about the workers who toil in medieval Arab lands. Are you ready to evacuate them with a short notice.

        Here is quote that is pertinent to you:
        Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt – Mark Twain

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          NV – “Percy the pathetic.” You gave some food for thought to Percy who also calls himself “Rajan Wahab”, “Tip CUT Nana”, “Hora Police” and the list goes on and on under CT’s watch!

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      Sarrij,

      Why should Buddhism should be rid out as the state religion?

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        Shenali

        “Why should Buddhism should be rid out as the state religion?”

        What is Buddhism?
        What has it got to do with the state?
        What is Sinhala/Buddhism?
        What has it got to do with the state?
        What is state?
        Why don’t you just learn Buddhism and practice what it teach you and just forgot about Sinhala/Buddhism and state?

        What has Chapter II of the constitution achieved in the past 46 years since it was first adopted?

        It has created more space for crooks, murderers, war criminals, drug smugglers, ………………………………… to hide.

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          Native Vedda,

          Sri Lanka has Sinhala Buddhism just as Japan has Shinto Buddhism. Japanese despise immigrants way more than Sinhalese does. But I don’t find you or anyone else making any comments on that. Sri Lanka state had from the begging protected the Sinhala Buddhism in this island. It is the traditional right of any government in Sri Lanka. It hasn’t bar any others from practicing their religion in this island. So why should people like you are upset about it?

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            Shenali

            Thank you for your response in typing.
            That is not the right reply. If you do not know the right answer just ignore my comments. You don’t need to type for the sake of typing.

            Try once again.

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            Tamils and Muslims are not immigrants to be hated and despised but belong to the land and have the same right to it as the Chingkallams. This means more than half the so called Chingkallams , also should be despised, as their ancestors migrated from South India just a few centuries ago. What will Amma Amma Achchi and Patta , from that nice little fishing village in Tamil Nadu have to say, when they read what their Chella Chenali Kunju has posted here? Do you send a Tamil translation to all your close relatives in Tamil Nadu of all your Lanka Lies fairy tales? How do they react to it . [edited out]

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              Pandi Kutti,

              Yeah. Try sending us to India. We shall see then. We have always beaten you and it is no problem for us to beat you again.

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                Shenali

                “We have always beaten you and it is no problem for us to beat you again.”

                We have always survived from genocides.
                You never beaten anyone in the past 500 years except the war crime being committed between 1980 and 2009.

                Even as recently as 1987 your armed forces were hiding behind their women folks and VPs bum.

                Therefore please Keep your volume down.

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                I am not trying to send any one anywhere . Only Sinhalese Buddhist Fascists like you, ironically many of them descended from recent immigrants from South India. You are one. We have beaten you and will beat you again? What does that mean? You think Tamils are here to be beaten killed and raped? Their possessions looted and destroyed and their lands stolen and you( the Sinhalese ) still want to do it? Shows your nasty warped mindset. This site is not Lankalies and please refrain from posting such trash here. We are not Lanka Lies Morons. Reserve all these sorts of nonsensical ranting for them.

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            Shenal there is nothing called Sinhala Buddhism. This give the impression Buddhism was Sinhalese but not Sinhalese followed Buddhism. Buddhism belongs to Buddha’s (Indian) teaching and Sinhalese are just followers. There is no Shinto Buddhism. Some Japanese follow Buddhsim and others follow Shintoism which is completely different from Buddhism.

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      Similarly get rid of Islam as the state religion; Politics and Religion don’t mix. Tell this to all Muslim racist countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia and Maldives.

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    A very good suggestion Dr. But who will tie the bell on the cat’s neck?

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    Mr Ameen Ali
    Sangha will be automatically reformed when you guys stop multiplying like rabbits and stop spreading Islam displacing Sinhala people and building mosques every corner of the country.Sangha will keep quiet when you stop radicalising your youth and when you stop making our country a colony of Middle East.You are a direct or indirect threat to our existence .You guys are happy to see our Sangha playing deaf and dumb for you to do above activities quietly so one day when you out number us you can kick out our assess.Sangha is shouting for a reason.That reason is obvious.Sime of their activity cannot be condoned but there is a cause for their concern .Mudlms should learn to coexist with others without threatening their existence.Then there will not be any problems.

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    Yes…..
    SWRD Banda completely ruin the Community of Sangha in Sri Lanka.
    He was the man who dragged Buddhist monks into politics.
    Now these most foolish individuals are blindly entangled with multifarious activities in the name of Sinhala Jathiya, so called Sinhala Rata and Sinhala Buddhagama.

    Law must be imposed for monks to refrain from politics and casting votes.

    These so called monks have completely ruined what Buddha taught us.

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    Such statements coming from a Muslim may have highly unexpected and deadly effects. It is like me, a Buddhist, saying that the Holy Quran needs a rewriting.

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      Forget the messenger & focus on the message for a change.

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      What is wrong with the statement? You must understand that came from fellow Sri Lankan writing the facts .

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      Mr. Rodrigo.

      I believe you are mistaken. The author merely states that what is man made is needs cleansing. Surely you cannot be blind to what is happening around you. HE does not accuse the teachings of the buddha, and neither should you sling mud at the Qu’ran. But if ones does come across, terrorism in the name of islam, as it is perpetrated in the world, one should condemn it for smearing the holy name of god. The same should happen in Sri Lanka. Bodhu Bala sena is an oxymoronic group. The Buddha preached ahimsa, yet they and many others perpetrate violence.

      One should lead by example. I am a Hindu and I condemn all violence especially when it is carried out in the name of god, such as in India where hardcore hindutva youth are stirring a hornets’ nest.

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        Thank you Mr. Siri. I agree with the comments that say essentially that what the author says is true. I also agree that the Sangha needs cleaning. Not only the Sangha but leaders of other faiths too, including Islam.

        But I don’t think the majority of Sinhala Buddhists will take it that way. I don’t want it to provide another spark in a tension filled situation. That is all.

        Coming back to the cleaning of Sasana, there were problems even in Buddha’s time. An example is the rebel Devadatta (brother in law of Siddhartha) who led the biggest rebellion. In an open faith like Buddhism this kind of thing is bound to happen all the time. We have the freedom to disagree, leave the faith anytime, question it’s teachings etc. In fact Buddha encouraged questioning as a means reaching a better understanding.

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          Mr. Edwin,
          This i concur with you. But one has got to call a spade, a spade. One must not give into false pretense. If the majority are not ready to call those who act against dhamma and ahimsa, then Sri Lanka has a bleak future. Every ethnic group has a responsibility towards the nation, and that responsibility includes weeding out those who cause great harm to racial harmony.

          The freedom to disagree is afforded to everyone. The problem is people are blinded by their own faith and think there is no way out. The scientific method can be applied to religion.

          This must be applied to every religion. And for a start, we can sever the umbilical cord between religion and state. The state has been sucked dry.

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        Violence committed on the name of a religion is not acceptable. All religionists are guilty of such crimes at some stage. But if you take the number of atrocities carried out in the name of a religion, Muslims are the worst perpetrators, because it is told to them that any crime committed on non believers will be pardoned by Allah

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          Al faq the idiot,
          Christians killed 1 million Christians in a month (Rwanda)
          Buddhists killed 2 million Buddhists in Cambodia
          Hitler killed 6 million Jews

          What Muslim crime is even close? Speak up or shut up.

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            Yusuf you are the idiot who does not know the difference due to your Islamic bigotry. Those killings were political and not in the name of any religion. In Rwanda it was between two ethnic groups Tutsis and Hutus. In Cambodia it was between communists and others. Hitler’s extermination of Jews was purely due to envy of Jewish prosperity. Similarly Turks killed 1 million Armenians which was ethnic hatred and not religious. It is better you shut up without displaying your ignorance. There is no equivalent to Islamic crimes against humanity.

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      Edwin, you got a point, but lets face it, what Mr Amin Ali says is very correct and I dont think he wrote the article with an Islamic agenda or to belittle Buddhism, which we buddhists are doing without any outside help.

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        Abey, It is my personal opinion that Buddhism does not need protection any more than Newton’s Theory of Gravitation or Darwin’s Theory of Evolution needs protection. There are differences of opinion even among the scientists especially regarding the new theories such as the Quantum Theory. But we do not see them throwing personal insults at each other or using physical force on their opponents. I consider the Teachings of Buddha (TOB) not as a religion, but more as a philosophy and something like above scientific theories.

        Do we need armed guards or demonstrations to protect Science? No? Perhaps Science would have gained a lot if the Alexandria Library was not burnt down and armed guards would have provided protection against that. Similarly, if someone tries to burn all the books on TOB it may need protection.
        But even if does not get such protection, the laws and the theories in TOB would go on having effect. You can destroy books on Evolution, but you cannot escape from the effects that they describe. It is the same with Buddhism.

        In fact, Buddha himself predicted the start of the slow decline of Buddhism after 2,500 and its total disappearance after 5,000 years. He also predicted a person known as Matreya Buddha would rediscover these theories and then the cycle of knowledge and ignorance will roll on.

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      E R.
      You have got it wrong.
      It’s nothing to do with Buddhism; it’s politics and religion don’t mix; any religion.
      It’s a statement of fact.
      Marx was correct on that point.

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      The criticism is not of Buddhism or Buddhist texts, but of corrupt institutions.
      The Muslim counterparts are the various Muslim councils.
      People curse their religious leadership, but get touchy when others comment on these ‘sacred cows’.

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      Agreed,
      That’s the issue with Dr AA and other Muslim contributors. Had they raised these issues earlier when the Tamils were being subject to violence instead of pontifying or looking for their own survival or sucking up to the state , you could take them seriously.

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      Edwin Rodrgo,

      “Such statements coming from a Muslim may have highly unexpected and deadly effects. “

      What is the message? Is the writer calling a spade, a spade? Para-Sinhala “Buddhism”, a cult different from Buddhism?

      What was the message of Copernicus? It is the Earth that is rotating, and the Earth goes around the Sun just like the other planets. Copernicus was Polish, German French, English , Italian, Catholic, Protestant , Jew, Muslim. Buddhist or Hindu is immaterial.

      Similarly, a non-Muslim can tell what is needed by Muslims for reform.

      Thomas Jefferson of USA got the Church and State separated.

      Religion was an attempt to explain nature before the philosophers and scientists came along.

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    There is an inner, in some cases outer conviction held somewhere deep in the minds of Sinhalese whether they are illiterate or a specialist doctor that says “Protect Buddhism in Sri Lanka”. (there is nothing wrong and no offense)

    I am not sure it was right or wrong of SWRD, but political involvement of monks seems to have survived Buddhism in Thailand, Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar. Political involvement alone gets the priority over the nature of their engagement for the reason mentioned above.

    Political involvement with the right nature of engagement, will see more of Sobitha Theros.

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    Ameer,

    REMEMBER, SWRD’s assassination has never been investigated properly, but there are several evidence that the conspirators were actually non-Buddhists and the then colonialists. Other than the actual assassination of SWRD, there were several failed assassination attempts of SWRD and Sirimawo, and coups of their governments , 1972 Constitution was a result of all those mayhem.

    REMEBER, Maha Sangha have always been the guardians of Sinhala-Buddhist Sri Lanka, and they are superior to the politicians.

    So Ameer, you want to mess with Maha Sangha, just like Assroff did, and be Assroff number 2.

    So, you Muslims want Sinhala-Buddhists to leave their the worldly goods, Kuragala, Dewanagala, 10000 acre Muhudu maha viharaya, 15000 acre Digawapiya, Wilpattuwa jungle, etc to Marakka Muslims and live a monastic life. Cunning Muslim!!!!!!

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      Johnny Baby

      “REMEBER, Maha Sangha have always been the guardians of Sinhala-Buddhist Sri Lanka, and they are superior to the politicians.”

      True the Maha Sangha is the guardian of Sinhala-Buddhists but not Buddhists nor Buddhism. They also protect crooks, racists, bigots, stupids, war criminals, ………… constant pain in the bum of good governance, reforms, constitutional secular state, ………………….. and the destroyers of the middle path.

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        Johnny,
        Somarama and Buddharakkhita were not the first monks to be executed.
        Please explain this, if as you say, the Sangha were guardians of Sri Lanka:
        “Suriyagoda Rajasundara thera, who had received upasampada ordination from the Arakanese monks (Burmese) in 1679, exercised considerable influence within the Kandyan Kingdom and had the patronage of King Vira Narendrasinghe (1707–39). He was the last Sinhala king, after whom Nayakkar dynasty succeeded to the throne of Kandyan kingdom. In 1715, Suriyagoda thera was charged with treason by the king and executed”
        So who was boss, the king or the monks?
        I suppose this was also a colonial conspiracy according to you.
        Please do your research.

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          OLD codger: IT Is OZZI Korea who killed SWRD.I think SOMARAMA was killed via set up. the reason to kill SWRD was a political assasination because he nationalized lot of Western assets. Sowm ehre I read, on the same day that OZZI KOREA’s house in RAGAMA had a big party. OZZI KOREA was a typical portugeuse. I know you are western thrash who always rights lie. YOu still cannot understand that Ranil, RAvi the Thief and Arjun Mahendran emptied the banks. Those days west frequently did political assasinations. SWRD even nationalized PETROL which has come again as an Indian company.

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            Jim Boar – Who is “OZZI Korea”? It is Ossie Corea, you idiot!

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            Dim Jim,
            “IT Is OZZI Korea who killed SWRD.I think SOMARAMA was killed via set up.”
            So you were a witness at the trial?
            ” I know you are western thrash “
            If you don’t like western trash, why are you make a living collecting it in Canada? Come back to SL and work in Meetotamulla.

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              old codger

              “Come back to SL and work in Meetotamulla.”

              Come on when did Jim Softy the dimwit ever work in his life time?
              Please be kind to him, he in his mild madness believes the jobs available in Meetotamulla is only suitable for his “lower caste” Tamil brethren yet he wants the Tamils to abolish caste discrimination.

              Well he has to work with SJ.

              Wish you a Happy Tamil Sinhala New Year 2018.

              Why do new year greetings from Sinhalese read Sinhala Hindu new year wishes? I am not sure who made this change from Sinhala Tamil New year to Sinhala Hindu new year?

              Is it Shenali Waduge (the most unhappy female in this island), Champika, Wimal Weerawansa, Gunadasa Amarasekara (the most unhappy man in this island), …………. Modi’s Hindutva new wave right wing historians?

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                NV,
                Thank you for the wishes.
                Some people (you know who) can’t resist boasting about their knowledge of life in the West. So it is easy to guess where they are.

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            Dumb Jimmy,
            “YOu still cannot understand that Ranil, RAvi the Thief and Arjun Mahendran emptied the banks.”
            Which bank? I went to my bank yesterday and took out a lot of money.

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            Sirima, not SWRD, nationalised petroleum.
            *
            BTW, where is OZZI KOREA, wedged between North and South Korea?
            Please do not come up with not quite clever ‘a little bird told me’ stories.

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              SJ

              “Sirima, not SWRD, nationalised petroleum.”

              Are you saying the weeping widow Siri Mao had b***s and SWRD B didn’t.

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          old codger,
          You talk nonsense.

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            Johhny,
            If you can’t believe that some of those yellow-robed gods of yours are crooks and murderers, that’s your problem. Those who have eyes (and brains) can see.

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    Ameer Ali: Even during the Lord buddha there were bhikkus who did niot listen to the buddha. they are just like your Maulavi’s who interpret the quran their way. these bhikku’s are not even allowed to do that. Lord buddha has explained every word that had to say in the Canon (n our case, Pali canon). bhikku comminity is exactly or very much the same as they wr at the buddha’s time. Buddhism is very democratic and Buddha had mentioend exactly how every one should beahve. So, what you say is immaterial. Bhikkus are also human and they are not enlightened. In front of our eys there are bhikkus who are not trying to follow buddhism as the Buddha says. but, your saying is not true. some bhikkus as humans who did not give up everything inthis world, they try to address problems that they see. Sri lankan govt has not help buddhist bhikkus. they try their best to use ot for their benefit. There are so many things to ask if they are really ourseuing it. but, they are not so. Sri lankan muslims, Sri lankan christians are far advanced. Because they are very pushy. that is why, I myself, as a buddhist, like to see islamic and christian followers give us our right place. Believe me, right now, the western countries because of China’s influence want buddhists and Muslims asi fight one another. The following article had been published in March this year. Translate in chrome, google translate and see. Remember Sri lanka, Myanmar, thailand, Laos, Cambodia are all majority buddhist countries. but we are not allowed to run as they run”ISLAMIC republics. Or as the Anglican queen wants. there are many such christians and Islamic kingdoms or countries. that is why we are asking a buddhist PResident and buddhist PM and not these converted buddhists. both Mahinda rajapakse and Ranil are converted catholics and anglicans who has other things in their mind. they are not true buddhists.

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      Jim softly, the authority on fake news, King of the Google search. Next you will be telling us it’s the illuminati conspiring against the violent Buddhist culture in Sri Lanka.

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    Now, here is the funny line by cunning Ameer-
    ————————– “Once a particular religion in a plural polity given the privilege of being the state religion its spiritual guardians sometimes forget to realise that their actions are not above the control of the secular laws of the country. “—-

    If you Muslims believe in secular laws, why do you demand utter barbaric circumcision/FGM, utter barbaric Halal slaughter of cattle, underage marriages, unscheduled prayer breaks, utter barbaric Sharia-Law, gonibilla-ninja-abaya-dress for women, Muslim banking, etc,etc.

    Ameer, right now Crusaders in the West are getting ready to teach you Muslim the lesson which had been taught several times in the past, so stop antagonizing the Sinhala-Buddhists and loss their soft spot for you ungrateful Muslims.

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      John the dumb,
      “If you Muslims believe in secular laws, why do you demand utter barbaric circumcision/FGM, utter barbaric Halal slaughter of cattle, underage marriages, “
      Why do Buddhist monks kidnap small boys and keep them in temples?
      I won’t go into detail, but isn’t it barbaric?
      Why is it OK for Buddhists to kill people but not cows?
      Isn’t it barbaric?

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        Yusuf: what you say as MMDA allows you, as your Mohommad did with his seond wife, as muslims are allowed to seduce young girls,… the fact is different. Go and ask them. You idiot killing out of anger andout of desperation to save one self is different of planned killing with sharf knife because the almighty MAULAVI, IMAM, MULLA said so.

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          Jimmy,
          How old was your great-grandmother when she got married?

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        yusuf

        “Why is it OK for Buddhists to kill people but not cows?”

        The Sinhala/Buddhists want the Muslims to kill cows so that they could make Devilled Beef for occasions..

        Please note Johnny baby sees things only what he wants to see with his own twists. Basically he is a hypocrite, racists, and bigot like his fellow Sinhala/Buddhists.

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    If religions cannot be respectfully followed, then to hell with religions.

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    Amir Ali,
    As a descendant of Kallathoni Muslims you do not know the history of Sinhale (Sri Lanka). Buddhist monks have played a role in politics and defending the country from time immemorial. When Para Demalu invaded Sinhale, Buddhist monks went with Sinhala army to give moral support and protect the country. When British ruled the country, Buddhist monks played a leading role in anti-British uprisings. Buddhist monks went in front of the firing squads of British bastards. When British raised Union Jack before signing the Kandyan convention, it was a Buddhist monk Wariyapola Sri Sumangala Thera who pulled down the Union Jack and raised Sinhale flag. Recently there is a surge of Muslim writers in this forum attacking Sinhala Buddhists. It looks like this is a planned project. In an article you wrote you deliberately tried to mislead the readers by giving inaccurate figures. Sinhalayo are paying for the blunder committed by a Sinhala Buddhist King Senerath.

    For your information, SWRD’s assassination was planned and executed by Christians.

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      Not Eagle eye but serpent eye. SWRD was a Christian before and converted to Buddhism for political reason. Christian can get lot of benefit from SWRD because he will have some soft heart for fellow Chriatian so why should Christians kill him. He was killed to stop Chelvanayagam/Bandaranayake pact.

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    For the Buddha sasana to be cleansed (more like re-established), you require a Buddhist Council (ධර්ම සංගායනාව​). There have been 6 councils but only the 1st three count. Everything goes through ‘Anicca’. This applies to Buddhism. Its now in gradual degradation and eventually ceases to exists. That is reallity and every Buddhists (the real ones not Sinhala-Buddhists or Myanmar-Buddhists) knows this will happen. But one thing that must be made clear is that Buddhism can never be IMPOSED as laws on civilians. It cannot be political. Otherwise from day one Lord buddha would have demaned laws be imposed. That is not the case. Only monks have laws based on the “Vinaya Pitaka”. Even then, monks are subordinate to the law of the land. If the law of the land is incompatible, the Buddha and the monks will leave that area. Some countries, including SL impose Buddhism as civil law but this is futile and only speedup the degradation of Buddhism itself. Buddha and monks will advise kings but kings have to formulate laws based on their citizenry and NOT because the Buddha just said so. There are detailed qualities of a virtuous king. But, Mr. Ameer Ali should know that certain other religion(s) actually are political and have strict jurisprudence. This discrepancy is why you see the rise of elements like BBS and 969. They see religion ‘X’ imposing laws, while Buddhism says, “no, you can’t impose laws”. So they decide to literally bypass what the Buddha said and impose Buddhism as law on people and anyone who is against them will suffer. I don’t care, how perfected your religion is or whether your prophet(s) is the last sent by god. I really don’t care. All religions MUST be stripped of their capacity to impose laws on civilians.

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    An utterly irresponsible and needless article. More so because of the heightened sensitivities of the different local religious groups at the present moment in time. As a Muslim, the writer should have exercised more caution prior to giving free rein to his lines of thought.
    .
    The need of the hour is for the more moderate members of the Buddhist and Muslim communities to take the steps necessary to re-establish and strengthen inter-communal harmony. Articles of this nature only makes this task increasingly onerous.
    .
    The Muslim readers of CT should now get ready to face a barrage of vituperative comments about their religion, about themselves and of course, about our irrepressible band of ‘Scholars’ .
    .
    Thank you, Brother Ameer Ali. It is just what we needed during this festive period in our Motherland.

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    We need a Sinhala Buddhist lay leader and a Sinhala Buddhist territory.

    We should not be concerned about affairs of Christians, Islamists, Hindus or atheists. ONLY to the extent of if they become a security threat to Sinhala Buddhists.

    Under this environment sangha or the community of monks will reform itself.

    Sangha has volunteered because there are NO LAY people to stand and represent Sinhala Buddhists.

    Quite simple……

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      sinhala_noise

      “We need a Sinhala Buddhist lay leader and a Sinhala Buddhist territory.”

      Could you define what you may consider as Sinhala Buddhist territory and tell us why you need one. Who are the Sinhala Buddhists?

      The traditionally lay people recited :
      ”Buddham saranam gacchami
      Dhammam saranam gacchami
      Sangham saranam gacchami.”

      Since their conversion to Sinhala/Buddhism though they express their intention to take refuge in the Buddha, Dhamma, and Sangha what they really mean is their intention to remain bigots, racists, crooks, war criminals, rapists, ………………. and promise to build and protect a Sinhala/Buddhist ghetto.

      Please stop confusing pristine Buddhism with your perverted Sinhala/Buddhist fascism. In case you found your authentic Buddhism in your heart and mind please invite Dalai Lama to the island for a fresh look at the difference between what the awakend one taught some 2600 years ago and how you have perverted his teaching in order to make it exclusively yours.

      Buddhism in its pristine form is a living philosophy and an ideal way of life and what you follow in this land is an fascist ideology.

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        You are confused that’s your problem…Tell the your master race that they are facists
        Good bye….

        Sinhala Buddhist territory does not include Northern Province, Parts of Eastern Province and certain area surrounding Colombo……

        Rest is Sinhala Buddhist territory……If you don’t like this it is your bad luck,,,,

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          sinhala_noise

          Could you define what you may consider as Sinhala Buddhist territory and tell us why you need one. Who are the Sinhala Buddhists?

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    you cannot cleanse the sangha in SL as it is caste based and there is no hierarchical system as in christian churches
    any body can shave his head , wear a robe and call himself a priest

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      Nalmen,
      “any body can shave his head , wear a robe and call himself a priest”
      BS. There is a strict procedure to become a Buddhist monk.

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        Eagle Blind Eye

        “There is a strict procedure to become a Buddhist monk.”

        I wonder why you need strict procedures to recruit thugs? I suppose the procedures include rejecting none Govi applicants?

        I suggest the Sangha should allow its members to get married and have children then they would experience how difficult family life is, and avoid indulging in politics, thuggery, arson, ……………illicit secret rendezvous with woman and boys.

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        Blind Eagle,
        Read the Vinaya Pitaka. Why does it tell monks not to lie down and let a prostitute sit on them?

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      I think Nalman is right. Now we have to find from which underworld Gnanasara appeared as a monk by shaving his head.

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      Similarly any body can grow a beard, wear a robe and call himself a Moulavi.

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        Al-fuqqa idiot, moulavis are ordinary people, nobody kissing their feet or getting threads tied in their wrist like chanting monks do.

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          Ralli Bin Balli the idiotic scoundrel. Bhikkus are ordinary people, nobody licking their hands or getting parts removed from their body like howling Moulavis do.

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    Monk hood is the worst form of existence, as they live and eat by begging (piñata)without doing a job, even the dog the only animal which doesn’t hunt earn it’s food by guarding the house or other similar things, so these monks are below the level of dogs, what more can you expect from these lowly creatures.

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      Concerned citizen,
      Clergy in all the religions are parasites. So are all these clergy below the level of dogs?

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      Thank you Unconcerned citizen. You made me pause and note the effect of hateful and disparaging words on the mind. Its all anicca, and you mean even less than your words do.

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      What nonesense. Only domestic dogs do that. But give them enough time without food and they will revert to their primal instincts. All other Wolf-like canids hunt. Beggars and scavengers play an important part in nature. Monks beg because they have very few possesions in real Buddhist monastic life (Not the luxurious Sinhala-Buddhist monk). But remember, the can only beg. They cannot NOT demand (unlike some of our Sinhala-Buddhist monks). And unlike your traditional road side or bus beggars they MUST keep a high level of personal hygene and both arms including armpits must be covered before entering a village and they cannot do so post noon and they can only beg for few select things such as food (definitely NOT money). And if you don’t like them you can just ask them to leave or chase them out of the village and they will never return. The whole idea of monkhood is to be least parasitic unlike us who constantly destory nature for our own benifit. The idea of monkhood is leave a very minimal environmental footprinit, to understand that they are part of the natural system and that they don’t own it. A Monk on a monring begging cycle maybe a nuisance to you but non-monastic humans are literally responsible for the 6th extinction of other species. A monk who does not get any food in a begging cycle will have to go hungry or eat leaves and fruits that fall out of trees. They cannot actually pluck things out of trees. It has to fall down. And this is not unique to Buddhism. Jain, Hindu and many other religions long before Buddhism had similar or even higher disciplines. They are actually the least harmful to nature compared to us.

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    Too late for any cleansing. Buddhism is now institutionalized in Sri Lankan politics (we only hope other religions do not follow). It will only be reversed if there is another Somarama thero.

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    Lankan history has a special place for its Buddhist monks. Whatever the Sinhalese have today is the legacy of the monkhood and millennia of dedicated hard work by the monks to preserver the hydraulic civilization that drew heavily from Buddhism. My advice to the Sinhalese is that Jihadis come in many forms. Some are clean shaven and can have academic degrees including doctorates. Do not let them misguide you and take you for a ride. Your saviors are the monks, and even though there may be a few bad ones every now and then, most of the monks realize that Buddha’s message cannot survive in this country without the occasional defensive war against Tamil Tigers and Wahabi fanatics.

    The global way against radical Islam is around the corner. Lankan Sinhalese and Tamil should join forces to fight the radical Wahabi fanatics. The head-to-toe Moslem dress should be banned and no one should be allowed to be in public with face covered. Moslem men from ages 8-70 should be made to register and they should be tracked on a special database. Lanka should obtain support from the Chinese who have mastered the technological solutions to fight Islamic terror in Western China, among the Uighurs. And keep your guns loaded, locked and ready. Lankan Moslems will take arms in the next five years in Lanka’s Eastern provinces with support from Pakistan, and the Sinhalese must ensure that the violent end is promptly brought to terrorists. These are men who follow a medieval form of evil and the time when the whole world will turn their back on them is now imminent.

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      Jay Chambers

      “Lankan history has a special place for its Buddhist monks. “

      Why?
      Is it because the monks first justified ethnic cleansing, mass murder and religious war some 2200 years ago?

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        Native Vedda,

        Why don’t you go and ask from your ancestors?

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          Shenali

          “Why don’t you go and ask from your ancestors?”

          Even any Tom Dick and Harry knows its a lie.
          Why don’t you or Jay Chambers give it another try?

          Why?
          Is it because the monks first justified ethnic cleansing, mass murder and religious war some 2200 years ago?

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            Native Vedda,

            So even if it is a lie, what can you do about it?

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      Jay Chambers:

      “Your saviors are the monks”. Been thinking, it is the maids sent to Arab countries.

      “These are men who follow a medieval form of evil and the time when the whole world will turn their back on them is now imminent” – Poor kid, Wahabis have been making better deals with Americans, Europeans and Israelis. Rest is hoodwink.

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    Yes, my dear pot, I am quite black indeed!

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    E Eye, I don’t know about other religions but in Islam definitely there is no clergy, the Imam does a service and he gets paid for it, and even Christian fathers are also the same

    But the monks are a burden on the society, they live on others by begging for food or getting things for free. Where as they are also endowed with hands and legs as the normal people but they don’t contribute anything to the society

    Moreover since they don’t have a family, job and no other burdens, their energy is directed towards nefarious activities and wasted. This doesn’t happen in other societies

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      Concerned Dog: Guys, do no be concerned about this concerned dog. Just ignore it’s bark which is worse than his bite. He is barking to impress his master, whoever it may be, expecting a bone to be thrown to him. Have Metta on him.

      Muslims do not generally stoop to that level. Sure, it is one of those dogs who worship monkeys riding donkeys as Gods.

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      CC should monks contribute to society by taking part in politics? Are you backing Gnanasara for President?

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        Taraki

        “should monks contribute to society by taking part in politics?”

        What have you learned from your experience whether momks could contribute to society by taking part in politics?

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      Concerned Citizen is right.Islam is also a businessjust like the christian Church. Who ever preach inthe mosque need to be paid.Even the one cleaning the mosque after the preaching need to be paid. So, there are mosques for rich which looks extravagent. NOTICE but bhikkus are nit paid, they are given or if not they go on begging.

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      Buddhist priests may be a burden to Buddhist society, but Moulavis, Mullahs and Muftis by their hate preaching, are a burden to the whole humanity.

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    Are you living a piñata life, do you beg for your food, are you comfortable doing that, you don’t have any shame.if so you’re in the same level as the monks

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      Concerned citizen, you are a Fool. When did you last see a monk beg for food? Monks do not ask for food. People feed them voluntarily, monks in turn feed the people (with food for the Mind). I am speaking of course about genuine monks, not scoundrels like Gnanasara.

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        Begging for Food: I think CC has a point here. Let us not deny that even Buddha went on Pinda Patha, translated correctly to English as Begging for food. Buddha did not go alone. He went with a whole entourage of monks. They systematically divided themselves in to small groups to cover a wide area.

        Those days it was the accepted practice of many Shramanas, including non – Buddhist ones to do that. There were many, searching for the truth, deliverance, meaning of life etc. The problem of ‘existence’ which bothered Western Philosophers like Sartre and Kierkegaard in the 19th and 20th centuries was bothering them.

        Why did Buddha, a Prince of a Shakyas choose to do that? I can give some reasons for you to think about.
        1. It reduced the ego.
        2. It Relieved the monk from the time consuming chores of preparing food.
        3. It was a way of meeting the people directly and to make them interested in Dhamma. The houses were selected with no regard for social level, wealth, caste etc.
        4. This gave the poor a chance to know that a certain Dhamma existed through the short sermon given, with even house servants getting the chance to meet Buddha face to face.
        It is aid that on the first that Siddhartha did it the food received was such a disgusting mess – a mixture of so many things – that he nearly vomited. But he managed to control himself and eat it.

        If Ganansara followed this practice properly, he would be visiting the Muslim and Tamil houses too helping in building up a good understanding between the different parties.

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          ____________
          If Ganansara followed this practice properly, he would be visiting the Muslim and Tamil houses too……………………….
          ——————————————

          And they would put poison onto his food in no time.

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            Retarded Loony ———————————- self confessed women smelling Shameless Pererass,

            Here is something you ought to see and read:
            If P.M.’s erudite wife can be that simple why Commander’s unqualified wife this pompous?

            Did your job description in the army include washing your commander’s wife’s under garments and other personal items on monthly basis besides spit polishing his boots?

            Did you enjoy doing it?

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    Or people!

    Look at the commends, Fake Siva and other Tamils are always waiting to see a slot to show their hatred against Muslims and asking questions like did you do that and this when we were facing that and this, whether those questions are relevant or not.

    Some Sinhalese straightly go to suggesting changes in the Qur-an? Is Doctor suggesting to change any of religious book which you may treat as Holy?

    Did any Muslim clergy behaves like some of these Monks behave in Sri Lanka? Why would Doctor Ali advice Saudi Arabia, Iran or Pakistan? He is a Sri Lankan and he has all rights to suggest good things if he sees anything wrong with an establishment, which knowingly or not walks in a wrong path.

    All the above shows that people are not ready to accept positive criticisms and adamant not to learn.

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      Ahmad Nadvi,

      Yes. Mr. Amir Ali has every right as a citizen to criticize things he deems fit. However, the if he is honest the same scrutiny shall be extended to Islam as well. Otherwise it seems hypocritical on his side.

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        Shenali

        “However, the if he is honest the same scrutiny shall be extended to Islam as well. “

        Aren’t you suffering from partial and selective blindness. Go visit his previous articles where unlike you he has seriously/adequately dealt with what is lacking in Islamic traditions.

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      No we are not what we have posted is relevant. Stating the truth is not hatred. Not a single Tamil here me or any other have advocated violence hatred or discrimination against the island’s Muslims on the contrary many Muslims have in their articles and comments here. The Muslim if they want to have a right to a separate identity, however this should be based on truth and not based on lies and myths. You are not Moors or Arabs but immigrant Dravidian Tamil converts from India. A distant Arab or other western Asian male ancestor amongst a few hundred families does not make you Arab or Moor. When the Portuguese called you Moor , it was not a racial classification but religious, as they only Muslims they came into contact prior to their travels were the Moors who ruled the Iberian peninsular, therefore they started to call every Muslim they met Moor, especially the subcontinental varieties. It was a derogatory term and it is the truth. They hated Muslims , this was one of the reasons they persecuted them along the western coasts. If you want a separate Identity fine be correctly called Tamil Muslims or Muslim Tamil. A Moor is from North Africa and you are not. You are Dravidians.

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      contd: The colonial British government and later Sinhalese governments , in order to divide the island’s Tamils encouraged the Island’s Muslims to created this fake Moor identity from the incorrect name the Portuguese gave them. The Muslim elite and politicians jumped on this ,for their own selfish power and political objectives. Even an eminent Arab scholar has stated Tamil Muslims in Sri Lanka are called ” Moors”. These are not things I make up they are facts, also supported by DNA If you and the rest of the brainwashed Muslims do not like it stiff. Muslims in the island are now reaping what they sowed. Despite being ethnically Tamil, in the name of their religion and a fake Arab/Moor origin they joined the Sinhalese establishment and racists to commit genocide and war crimes on their fellow non Muslim Tamils and celebrated it and trivialised their sufferings. If they had joined their fellow Tamils to fight for justice against Sinhalese racism from the beginning. Sinhalese Buddhist fascism would have been nipped in the bud and the Sinhalese would have backed off. They did not they happily joined the Sinhalese to marginalise the island’s Tamils for crumbs from the Sinhalese table and they are the ones who benefitted most from the war, especially in the ancient Tamil east. Even the Sinhalese know this. Lastly I am not fake Siva Sankaran as a fake Siva Sankaran was running amok on this and other forums, using my identity to post anti Tamil garbage. I am Real. Please learn from your mistakes that is all I ask. We all have to even the Tamils. I have no intention of marginalising anyone. You cannot reconcile on myths and lies. This fake Arab and Aryan origins have created so much of havoc

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      Everything is relevant to what is happening today and why shouldn’t the Tamils ask these questions? They are pertinent. Muslims are reaping what they sowed. They were openly siding and were hand in glove with all Sinhalese governments from the time of independence. to marginalise and discriminate the island’s Tamil population. Especially their elite and politicians. Many of them actively participated in anti Tamil pogroms with in the south and in the east. They did this for petty benefits for their community at the expense of the Tamils It was a Muslim minister who introduced standardisation in the 1970s to keep out Tamil students from higher education and unfairly disadvantage Sinhalese and Muslim students with far lower marks to enter higher education. Not even a single Muslims politician, academic or prominent person stated what was happening was wrong, as they were enjoying what was happening and were the beneficiaries. They brain washed the Muslim masses to hate their own Tamil heritage and origin .At the end of the war, they were openly seen celebrating with the Sinhalese racists and arrogantly stating now they are the second largest community and the Tamil east will be theirs, as they have joined the Sinhalese colonists to successfully marginalise the eastern Tamils in their own lands. Many Muslim columnists and commentators here , were openly posting articles here urging the Sinhalese that Tamil rights should not be granted and were gloating on the plight of the Tamils. Even now , when they post articles here , they constantly remind the Sinhalese how faithful and loyal the Muslims were to them and the support Muslims gave to the Sinhalese establishment locally and internationally to commit war crimes on the Tamils. Therefore the Sinhalese should treat them better. Now they are crying foul as their former Sinhalese partner’s in their anti Tamil war dance have now turned against them, as they are of no use. Now talking about human rights minority rights and racism amongst Sinhalese.

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    All religions which boast of their greatness have become a headache and problems. All present day religious leaders are misleading the people by all kinds of guidelines. All members of the clergy of all religions, Isla is ullemas should be sent to paddy fields to produce food, clean toilets and drains and other low jobs. They are eating and getting fat in Kovils , mosques,temples, churches and places of worship. They are also robbing all the moneys and valuables in the places of worship. They are a lazy lot.

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    What is all this? This article should not have appeared in your News paper. bringing hatred among religions
    Before you point your finger at others religions you should be perfect.
    This brings hatred among communities. We have had enough of this nonsence over several decades.

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    Do we need peace & harmony or bring hatred among communities?
    Do you think the Buddhists will tolerate all this nonsence
    Before you clean others clean yourself.
    Let all communities live peacefully as Sri Lankans.

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    only solution is to get Ali to teach Buddhism to the Mahanayake Thero of Malwatta and the other Mahanyakas.. I see this as an unwanted article by Ali and Comments bringing hatred among
    Communities who are trying to heal the wounds of the past.

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      Dhammika

      ” I see this as an unwanted article by Ali and Comments bringing hatred among”

      I see Mahanayaka’s interference in politics is not only unnecessary but also harmed communities who are trying to heal the wounds of the past.
      Maha Sangha should be abolished.

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    Yesh yesh yesh. Let’s give Islam the foremost place in the constitution. Happy Ahkmed?

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      Retarded Loony ———————————-Shameless Pererass,

      “Yesh yesh yesh. Let’s give Islam the foremost place in the constitution. “

      Why are you lying?

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