16 May, 2022

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TNA Habitually Bums Sinhala Chauvinists

By Kumar David

Prof. Kumar David

Rajavarothiam is an honourable gentleman and Abraham is bright, maybe one of the best in Hulftsdorp though competition in recent decades is crummy. I know both personally and I like them. But the FP and its many subsequent avatars survived for years in lockdown mode and today’s TNA is in the pits! What necromancy, what death-wish persuaded it to grovel to President Gotabaya’s All-Party Confabulation (APC) and to bring humiliation on the heads of the Tamils? Why did it choose to hug a corpse when the cortege was on its way to final burial? Ranil had good reason for attending; he may be in line for a lolly in the rumoured National Government.

The whole world is reporting the catastrophe in Lanka; the New York Times of 25 March said:

“Sri Lanka’s economy is experiencing multiple organ failure, and sepsis has set in,” said Murtaza Jafferjee, the chairman of the Advocata Institute, a think tank in Colombo. Ratings agencies have downgraded Lanka’s debt by several notches, and investors are betting on default. The government responded to the downgrades and dour analyses with indignation, disbelief and denial, initially resisting calls to seek help from the IMF. It has been forced to relent.

This is the background in which the TNA decided to undertake another bout of a***licking. It has been begging the President for a small meeting to present, again, its 100-times ignored case. It has often been told again to go jump in the well; but it is tone deaf and still grovels. Why? Radical Tamil friends say contemptuously, that as an animal without a backbone, “What the hell else is the TNA to do?” On 18 March a penniless government promised to set up a North-East Development “Fund” and undertook for the umpteenth time to look into landgrabs and missing persons. The TNA yet again fell for the bull.

The Tamils are said to be clever and persevering and I daresay that’s true. However, the middleclass and Colombo elite genetic-variant has earned for itself a reputation of abject cowardice. This variant is caught in an existential bind; either push off back to Jaffna or be burnt at the stake by racist mobs. A huge number of lucky ones have emigrated since 1983. The FP-to-TNA entity had two alternatives to a***licking big business. Cut these links and throw in its lot with progressives, radicals and the left in Sinhalese society, or engage in an armed struggle for secession (Thamil Eelam). A many in the younger (15-30 year) generation were pushed by mass Sinhala chauvinism, SWRD-JR-Rajapaksa Sinhala leaders (where does R Premadasa fit?), discriminatory policies and, the straw that eventually broke the camels back, the racial carnage incited by saffron-robed blackguards and khaki-uniformed patriots, to throw in their lot with the LTTE.

I undertook a book project with the redoubtable Silan Kadirgamar in late the late 1980s when we conducted a large number of interviews in the Northern and Eastern Provinces including Killinochchi then the seat of the LTTE “state”. Our estimate was that about a quarter of Tamil males of the aforesaid age group were engaged in or sympathetic to the LTTE at its peak. Just before the arrival of the IPKF it seemed that a goodly one third to half the Tamil population had some degree of admiration for “the boys” though a referendum for Eelam in the NP-EP region would have been roundly defeated. Every Sinhalese and all but a minuscule number of Muslims would have said “Go fly a kite; perish the thought!” Evidence shows that there was no substantial support for Eelam among the Tamils even before Prabaharan murdered it by killing Rajiv Gandhi along with it. In any case the Eelam option is now well and truly buried.

Thereafter the TNA has never again found its feet or stood up and worked out a new strategy to follow after this debacle. It is unwilling to bury its illusions about the established Sinhala parties, or stop dealing with the leading Sinhala racist leaders, or forge ties with the political opposition. God help the Tamils, but my schoolmasters at STC dinned it in to me that “God only helps those who help themselves”: QED

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    Re the last sentence: It was exactly a day ago that a common friend told me that Kumar David never lets on that he is from STC. That is clearly wrong.

    Anyway, as to the subject, I think the author is too harsh. We Tamils have few cards to play. I believe that Mr. Sampanthan is doing as asked by India which, thankfully, is pushing for full implementation of the 13th amendment.

    For India to push credibly for the 13th amendment we must ask for it. This the radicals in the TNA do not understand. They would rather sloganeer for Eelam and have nothing to show. Gota R. keeps putting off the meeting and, I believe, under Indian pressure finally gave a new date. With no cards to play except India, I think Mr. Sampanthan is working with India to get the 13th amendment. That is our only hope.

    If we delay, there will be no homeland left. The sooner the radicals recognize that and stop undermining Mr. Sampanthan, the better. You too, Professor Kumar David.

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      Jaffna man hope you are correct, as the way things are going , Tamils will not have a homeland very soon. Even Jaffna is now not safe.

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        This is a US plan with Indian concurrence that is being executed with Basil as their agent to get Srilanka out of Chinese orbit. Sumanthiran was summoned to US to explain this plan and to get Tamils in line. Though he claimed that he went to US to discuss federalism, it is a blatant lie. Agreements were signed which has security implication to Srilanka. India wants TNA not to give trouble to Srilanka, and may even ask them to support the government if there be any attempt to defeat it. When opposition parties and Tamil MPs boycotted the all party meeting for advice to get over the economic crisis, only Ranil and TNA duo attended. Sumanthiran who has no concern about the economic hardship faced by Tamils in north and east for the past several years, wants to solve economic problem faced by the country. Sumanthiran is a lackey of Ranil and faithfully will do all what is told to him by Ranil. TNA meeting with government is also on the instruction of India which wants to save Srilanka from UNHCR pressure, where Srilanka will claim that they are having discussions with Tamils to settles all issues raised by UNHCR. (CONTD)

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          (CONTD) meeting between TNA and government was held without any agenda and no joint communique was issued after the meeting. Members of TNA who attended the meeting have complained that Sumanthiran prevented them from talking. This is an arranged drama, and Sumanthiran dutifully declared that meeting was fruitful with government promising to take action on all matters raised. So far government has not corroborated the claims made by Sumanthiran. This meeting is to buy time for the government and an opportunity for Sumanthiran to hoodwink Tamils. Just as what happened during last regime, Sumanthiran will paint rosy pictures of new constitution. Nothing substantial will happen other than token gestures of releasing few prisoners and some lands. What I hear is that 13th amendment will be implemented as it is with nothing more added. Even police and land powers is doubtful. In the meantime US plan will be executed by Basil, even to the extent of China lackey Mahinda and replacing him with an American friendly person such as Ranil. With Srilanka under Basil capitulating to India and US, any hope of the ineffective and divided opposition to throw the government out will be pipe dream. If any uprising occurs and Srilanka army refuses to cooperate to put it down, Indian troops will be called for help.

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          Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam

          “Agreements were signed which has security implication to Srilanka. “

          You seem to imply Sumanthiran signed agreements with the USA. Did he?

          “Though he claimed that he went to US to discuss federalism, it is a blatant lie. “

          What is the proof?

          “India wants TNA not to give trouble to Srilanka, and may even ask them to support the government if there be any attempt to defeat it.”

          If it is the case Hindia would chose to support/strengthen Douglas, Angagen, Karuna, Pillayan, Maravanpulavu, Gagendran, Wimal, Udaya, ……………………..
          Could you explain what you are speculating.

          ” TNA meeting with government is also on the instruction of India which wants to save Srilanka”

          Even if it is true, what do you suggest Sam, Suma, Siri, …. should do arm themselves with AK 47, ….. ? You have concluded that those who run UNHRC are stupid idiots and they don’t have their own source to access information about what has been happening in Sri Lanka.

          Why do you assume you are the only person in this world with loads of gray matter?

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            Write in your name without being a coward. Read it properly. Where have I said that Sumanthiran had signed agreements with USA. Main subject of discussion in US plan with Indian concurrence. Therefore it refers to agreements signed by Srilanka with India. Do not try to hold a candle to Sumanthiran who is a liar and crook. There are Tamils in USA with access to government officials. They are saying that Sumanthiran met with low ranking officials. If Sumanthiran was important, high ranking officials would have met him. Furthermore, USA does not invite individuals for others interest. Day by day you are becoming stupid. Why should India go behind sprats who are only big talkers, when they are able to catch sharks. UNHRC has their own sources, but the information that they have gathered is tallying with what Tamils have revealed. Government has said that they have started work to meet UNHRC in September. This meeting with TNA is one such measures. Next meeting between government and TNA will be in three months, and government will go round quoting Sumanthiran that they have agreed to release prisoners, lands and effect constitutional changes. Nothing is going to come out of it, but will help government to buy time. I have made my assessment on logical basis, and never claimed superiority. For your bad luck, all what I have said have come true.

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              The gist of the article is that the Tamil people and their leaders always lacked political wisdom. Nothing can be further from the truth.
              The other thing is that Sambanthan and Sumanthiran are not popular leaders of Tamil people. There are good reasons for this unpopularity. They have done many things thoughtlessly. Only powerful countries are propping them up. Sadly we can’t see a suitable and capable Tamil leader in the horizon. Tamil people are a cursed lot. Even God can’t save

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      I believe what he is doing is the best in the given circumstances. Preserve yourself, who knows Sinhalese themselves may come forward like Malaysian one day to offer full autonomy and India may bless it.

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    ‘What persuaded TNA to grovel to President Gotabaya’s All-Party Confabulation (APC).
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    An opinion is an opinion. I have no right to disagree with his opinion. But, I should know why Kumar David describes it, ‘grovelling’.
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    TNA has been making it obvious that the Sinhalese governments are insincere.
    How is making use of another opportunity to make it blaringly obvious, ‘grovelling’.
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    There is no strategy that would work against the ridiculous stupidity of the majority of the majority, least of all their politicians. TNA was not begging for favours. TNA was giving the world a chance to see how the minds of the ruling class work.
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    Kumar David has to show TNA a way out, before using such adjectives.

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    The leaders of all communities and political parties in Sri Lanka are freemasons. Many of them are tares also (aka the seed of cain or the serpent/reptilian bloodline).
    Many journalists are freemasons also, which is why they never expose what is really going on.
    There is no ‘racism’ among the ruling class Sinhalese, Tamils, Muslims etc.
    So all this talk about the ‘TNA vs UNP vs UPFA vs JVP’ etc is all just an act to fool the public.
    Real racism is based on the wheat (real humanity) vs tares.
    The former for a long time didnt have a clue, how they were being played, and they were existing as slaves and servants under the latter. While the latter get them to hate on others of their own kind, with manufactured fake divisions like ‘Sinhala vs Tamil vs Muslim’ etc
    This is how it has been world wide.

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      Oh, shut up! With power going to fail any moment, I have no time to show you where this message was more “reason-fully” conveyed to you by me this last fortnight.
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      When you say things that will sound moronic/lunatic, at least reveal you identity!
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      Other readers: suggestions for getting rid of such unintelligent lunatics?

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        SM the moderators are not doing their job properly.

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    Sambandan Ayya is now about Ninety . Not only the rulers , also those in the opposition
    whatever ethnicity they belong to , Must Learn To Retire at least after Eighty , without
    being a bit of a leech . If we call drug addicts ” CRAP ” , addicts in politics ? No intent to
    hurt anyone’s feeling , most of us here on this forum I reckon are , heading towards over
    fifty ! So it applies to everyone of us as well at some stage sooner or later ! A picture is
    worth a thousand words .

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      Sambandan must rethink, but even at this age he’s an asset to the country.

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        According to some scientific research , memory loss may start at the
        age of as early as Twenty ! And , our standard age of pension is 60 .
        So , one should ask Gota to remember his own initiative ” 1 country
        1 law! ” In real terms , assets are assets even after retirement .
        You can be more of an asset with leading by example of paving way
        to others to mature as leaders .It is a mammoth task .Sit back and
        watch how your disciples / juniors perform . There’s much more to it
        as this is like an epidemic to many developing countries !

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    Thank you, Kumar. Most Tamils are getting tired of these two Sampanthan/Sumanthiran duo, who are now largely seen by Tamils as not doing anything for the Tamils. no backbone will never ask or question any uncomfortable or probing questions with regards to the Tamil people. Will sit mum or never give an intelligent reply to silly, deceitful replies or outright lies that these racist Sinhalese politicians state. Seen as habitual bum suckers and arse lickers( please pardon the language. Moderator I am sorry but have to say this) to racist chauvinist Sinhalese politicians and our only looking after their own personal welfare and not the welfare of the Tamil people, whom they are supposed to represent. Nothing will be achieved by these two. They are just hoodwinking the Tamil people and we are in despair.

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      Siva Sankaran Sharma,
      I couldn’t believe what I was reading.
      Is this comment from you!
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      Hon. Sampanthan cannot ask or speak like a politician. His actions are being watched by ‘sources’ that matter. He acts as an elderly statesman.
      Sumanthiran is a spokesman of Sampanthan. That is the arrangement.

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        What I now sadly see is that the west, Britain, and India are now deliberately twisting the arm of the TNA, especially the Sampanthan /Sumanthiran duo to play ball and dance to their tune, so that they can make overtures to the Sri Lankan state, pull them off China’s grip, to come under their orbit or influence. They want to be in the good books of the Sinhalese, who they know is largely racist and will never want to give any rights to the Tamils. No southern Sinhalese political party will ever grant just Tamil rights and these countries know this and do not care about Tamils or their rights. Just make noises and use it as a tool to bring Sri Lanka to toe the line. This is why they helped the Sri Lankan state in May 2009 to defeat the LTTE, thinking that the grateful Sinhalese once the LTTE is defeated, will give token Tamil rights and will run to their bosom. However the Sinhalese as usual cunningly used them, promised all sorts of human rights reforms and just Tamil rights granted, and then ran to China/Russia. Sumanthiran and Sambandan are now being used and their arms twisted to accept token Tamil rights and crumbs from the Sinhalese, with no lands or police powers for the Tamil areas, by these states, deceive the Tamils with regards to their rights.

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          These western powers and India know that most Tamil parties like the author states are pliable, easily manipulated, and do not have a backbone, Now made worse after May 2009. This will make the Sinhalese happy with these powers and they make their move to bring the island into their orbit. Tamils be damned. This has been our story from independence, thanks to Britain and very short-sighted gutless Tamil politicians. If I am proven to be wrong and these too are genuinely working for just Tamil rights, their arms are not twisted by India, the west, and Britain to accept token Tamil rights and crumbs from the Sinhalese and they are genuinely interested in just Tamil rights( sic). I will be very happy to have been proven to be a fool. My race and people are more important to me than my ego.

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            Sorry, these two and not these too.

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          Siva Sankaran Sharma

          “………….. the west, Britain, and India are now deliberately twisting the arm of the TNA, especially the Sampanthan /Sumanthiran duo to play ball and dance to their tune …………”

          Well do you have an alternative tune and dance to go with it? With whatever you have in mind assuming Sam/Suma partnership is agreeable to perform according to your choice what is your destination, what do you want to achieve?

          Perhaps would you like to establish a caste ridden , racist, regressive, … society?

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            Sumanthiran is seen by many Tamils as a broker to this government and others, always advocating for them, did not care much about the atrocities and deliberate semi-starvation conditions of the Tamil people in the north and east imposed by this government, the illegal land grabs and forcible conversion ancient Hindu temples in the north and east to Buddhist or their destruction. Hardly opened his mouth or protested but now jumping up and down about the plight of the Sinhalese people down south. Good let him be concerned, that is good but he should also be equally concerned about the plight of the Tamil people and advocate for them too , as they elected him.

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          You are seeing things!
          Tamils are on a very bad wicket.
          There is no way we are going get out of the mess we are in with just our effort. We need the help of an external source. This is the reality.
          We burnt our fingers, thanks to the ‘bravado’ of Prabhakaran. India is not in a mood to forget that. We need to make use of the threat China poses to the stability of the region. That is our last card.

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            Yes, I see a lot of things, and many things I have seen and foreseen have come to pass and proven to be true. despite being ridiculed and abused by many at the beginning. See above. Yes, we need the help of an external source and I am realistic to know that a certain amount of arm twisting and acting as an agent for these external sources are also needed. However, they should lay down some minimal terms and conditions about the basic and important rights, that the Tamils are to be provided for their safety, security and to preserve their land, history, heritage, language and to be economically viable, then they can see you can twist my arm and I will be your agent. Instead of getting your arm twisted and being an agent for crumbs and next to nothing rights, as they cannot or do not want to negotiate.

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              As for India, I can understand their anger with regard to the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi and their need to punish Pirapakaran and the LTTE but cannot understand their vengeful revenge on the innocent Tamil civilian population and the overt and covert help to the Sri Lankan government and armed forces to commit war crimes on them and still turn a blind eye. Strange India is only not in a mood to forget about Pirapakaran and the LTTE is always in a mood to forget about Sinhalese betrayals, intransigence, and Indian activities far more damaging to India and the Indian people, that the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi, who a Sinhalese soldier also unsuccessfully tried to kill and was later rewarded. Proves Indians are not genuine and only understand and respect power, which the Sinhalese have so willing to pander to them, the Sri Lankan Tamils do not have it, so trample on them, just like the way they normally do their lower castes, Dalits and tribals. Most probably were also classified as one of them, from the time of the British. Therefore expendable to win Sinhalese favour.

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      Siva Sankaran Sharma,
      “… racist chauvinist Sinhalese politicians and our only looking after their own personal welfare and not the welfare of the Tamil people, whom they are supposed to represent.”

      Have caste conscience Tamil politicians in Yapanaya look after the welfare of ‘Panchamar’ Tamils whom they are supposed to represent?
      Instead of using money provided by the Government to improve the living conditions of Tamils in the North, Vigneshwaran returned the money to the Treasury. That is the kind of Tamil leaders you have.

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    Dr. KD. Ethno-religious identity politics is a distraction and there is a lot of Media narrative fixing but the big story is that now in Pakistan there is a regime change operation on going by CIA and related Economic Hit men, with the military against PM Imran Khan because he visited and supported Mr. Putin of Russia recently.

    The Cold War is back in South Asia and US wants to control Strategic Sri Lanka, its Energy Sectors and Cyber space also by gaming the MEDIA NARRATIVE and with lots of FAKE NEWS and of course the IMF take over of the economy with foreign Legal Firms. What sort of Leftist are you KD?!!
    Always the big attacks on Tamil and Muslim minorities have been with UNP, pro-Washington Govts like Yakee Dicki JRJ was in power during 1983 and then the anti-Muslim riots and 2019 Easter carnage when religion was weaponized by CIA’s ISIS and the Islamophobic narrative..

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    Sri Lanka has been subject to Economic Warfare by the US Deepstate, since Easter 2019 on tourism, followed by 2 year of Covid-19 fear and biowarfare media messaging promoting economically destructive lock downs with US citizens Goat and Basil at the helm to debt trap and force Lanka into the IMF and MCC project.
    Imran Khan protected the Pakistan economy and people by refusing Covid lockdowns and did not spend billions on useless Pfizer injections.
    This is why there is a regime change operation against him, while the US citizens Rajapakses who have destroyed Lanka are happily supported by UNP’s Ranil WIckramasinghe another US puppet.
    Why no one has asked for of the uneducated US citizen Basil who is Minister of Economic Disaster in this Miracle of Modayas??!

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    What is said is 100% true. Seeya Sambanthan is senile and dementic and I doubt that he even follows what is going on. Sumanthiran trying to please both sides and in survival mode. How can these two jokers go an meet Gota, a guy who totally rejected the SL minorities, and working out a project to slavage SL. Or what a pathetic guys. Gota is a sinking ship, full of shit, hatred, racism and corruption and these two jokers are going to slavage him. What an irony. Sambanthan seeya of course is grateful that he has a free house in colombo to live for the little time left for him. How can gota ever solve the minority problem. His only goal in life is to survive through anti minority policies and practices. Now Sumanthiran croons that Tamil diaspora is going to walk into N &E with billions of dollars and build Switzerland there. Other naki senile shamelss G.L says he is going to welcome all the diaspora tamils now. For what? To get some loan from them? Even if Gota agree to some of these no one will allow him to impelement as he is not wanted and only thing people want right now is to get rid of entire Rajapaksa clan from SL.

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      Black Lankan,
      “How can gota ever solve the minority problem.”

      All minorities and even minority politicians live with their families in Colombo as well as in other parts of the country amongst Sinhalayo without any problem. So, what is the minority problem?

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    Kumar David is an arm-chair critic. He lives in a world of his own making oblivious to the ground situation in the Northeast. Tamil people are facing grave problems on multiple fronts. Tamils are under occupation by the armed forces. Sixteen out of 22 Army Divisions are deployed in the North. Two Divisions are stationed in the East.
    When the war came to an end on May 18, 2009, the armed forces occupied a total of 118,233 acres of land in the Northeast, mostly in the North, out of this 28, 998 acres of land still remains occupied by the armed forces. This includes 3,300 acres in Valigamam North, the most fertile land in the peninsula. The owners of the land are living in refugee camps since 1990!
    To add insult to injury the Navy is trying to acquire 18 acres of private land in Mandativu to construct a camp. President Gotabaya pleaded ignorance when this subject was brought to his attention when the TNA met him on March 25.
    Mothers who handed over their sons and daughters to the army immediately after the war ended are staging fasts, rallies and roadside protest meetings for the last 3 years with no end in sight. Tamils arrested under the PTA are languishing in prison for more than 10 years. Shortages of foodstuffs, rice, fertilizer, diesel, petrol of course are common in both North and South.

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    Since the end of the war, Buddhist viharas and Buddhist statues have sprung up where there are no Buddhists. Hindu temples have encroached and Buddhist viharas have been constructed. Hindus have been prohibited by the army and the police from worshipping in some temples. Cases are pending in courts.
    The Archeological Department, the Presidential Task Force on Buddhist Heritage, the Wildlife Department, Mahaveli Development Board etc. are playing havoc in the Northeast mostly in the Trincomalee and Amparai districts.

    They have grabbed thousands of acres of land belonging to poor peasants to build viharas.
    The Northern Provincial Council remain dissolved since October 23, 2018. Journalists and human rights activists have been arrested and jailed under PTA. Others are under constant surveillance by the military and police sleuths.
    Urging by the international community is the major reason why the TNA wanted to meet President Gotabaya for talks. It makes sense to talk to the government in power to solve pressing problems faced by the Tamils.
    Kumar David does not want to give credit to the TNA for internationalizing the human and political rights of the Tamils. The various resolutions passed at the UNHCR in 2012 and thereafter against Sri Lanka was due to TNA interacting with the US and India.

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      Black Lankan & Thanga,
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      You correctly describe chronic problems that must be addressed with a certain set of strategies, including internationalizing.
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      However, given the acute crises that we now face, G.L. Peiris and Sambandan are assets – each of a different sort.
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      Sambandan should not go into talks with the government. It is good that GLP should remain with the government; at least he’s intelligent.
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      We must not argue from set positions.
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      Yes, Jaffna Man, Kumar has proved me wrong, but he’s a huge asset, and may be it’s good that he doesn’t hide any more where his outstanding intelligence was augmented with good education.

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      Yes and Chingkallams most of whom who arrived in the east within the last 40 years, should not be allowed to decide or vote on a referendum with regards to the north and the east. This means they are legalizing ethnic cleansing and change of demography deliberately done by the Sri Lankan state from the time of independence starting from DS Senanayake just for this purpose. How can a people who arrived in an area largely within the last four decades, through the state colonization process, decide on the rights and homeland of a people who have lived there for more than 3000 years and ruled this land until European colonization. There should be a cut-off point, only Sinhalese who was in the east prior to 1950 were allowed to vote. The rest should not be allowed to vote on this matter. They can live in peace and dignity and follow their culture , and religion but not allowed to decide on the fate of the Thamizh or their ancient homeland. Only the Eezham Thamizh and the Thamizh Muslims who arrived in the east a few centuries ago as refugees should be allowed to vote. They made the Indian origin Thamizh who had lived in the central highlands for over a century stateless , so that they cannot vote and decide on the fate of the Kandyan Chingkallams but want the Chingkallams who arrived in the east after independence, the vast majority within the last 40 years, settled by the Chingkalla state on ethnically cleansed Eezham Thamizh land the vote to decide on the Eezham Thamizh and their land. No way.

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        What a ridiculous comment Pandi Kutti. You really expect that anything like this will ever happen. You have a lot of proposals but how to achieve them? On that you are silent. Time and again your comments show you are smarting from the LTTE defeat. What a sad man.

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          It was not ridiculous for you and 99% of the Chingkallams when 1 million Indian origin estate Thamizh, who had lived on the island for more than 100 years and at that time produced most of the island’s wealth were deliberately made stateless, and most of them forcibly deported to India, strange land to them, because the Kandyan Chingkallams screeched and cried and did not want them, there, as they feared that these Thamizh will become powerful and have a say in their historical homeland. However ridiculous when Thamizh’s protest with regards to state-sponsored Chingkalla colonization of ethnically cleansed Thamizh lands, especially in the east, which is not necessary, but deliberately done to make the Eezham Thamizh a minority a voiceless minority in their homeland

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            For recently brought in outsiders like these outside Chingkalla colonists, most of them within the last 40-50 years to decide on the fate of the indigenous Eezham Thamizh and the Thamizhed Hindu Vedda of the east, who had lived and ruled this land for the past 3000 years. Shows the racist mindset of most Chingkallams. Will not allow others who had lived amongst them for over a century and contributed most to the economy to decide to run and partake in the affairs in the Chingkalla south but use the might of the state to ethnically cleanse and settle outside Chingkallams in their thousands within a short span of 50 years in Thamizh areas and want them to decide and fully participate on the fate of the native indigenous Thamizh. Chinkallams was only 4% of the population of the east in 1948 and now around 30% and increasing, due to deliberate colonization and ethnic cleansing of eastern Thamizh. See how ridiculous you sound. There are 1.5 million Thamizh (of native and Indian origin) living in the Chingkalla south and only around 3 or 4 Thamizh MPS represent this 1.5 million, Whereas in the east 2 or 3 Chingkallams are representing around 200000 Chingkallams, See how ridiculous you are.

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              Thamizh who have lived for centuries, must not partake or represent in Chingkalla areas but recently arrived Chingkallams, the vast majority in the last 40 years, deliberately settled by the state must fully participate and decide on the fate of the Thamizh. If they decide this means you are legalizing state-sponsored colonization of outsiders and ethnic cleansing of an indigenous population, to deliberately change the demography, for a certain result, which is a war crime. Just like when it happened in Bosnia. Unlike the Thamizh and Thamizh Muslims living down south, who went there on their own accord, and brought land, properties, and set up a business with their own funds, 99% of the Chingkallams now living in the north and east were deliberately sent there by the Sri Lankan state and settled there on ethnically cleansed Thamizh lands, then the original Thamizh village and town names changed, to Chingkallam to hide this fact and all this happened recently within the last 50 years and is still happening. Please go and fly a kite. It was not the LTTE that ruined the island, irrespective of whether they won or lost but state-sponsored Chingkalla racism and the racist mindset of most Chingkallams. You are a good example in my opinion.

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          Paul tell me which is more ridiculous . 1 million Indian origin estate Tamils, most of whom have lived on the island for eight generations or more, at that time earning 90% of the island’s foreign exchange and income, deliberately made stateless, by the Sinhalese state, immediately after independence, so that remain voiceless, without rights but still like cattle work for the newly independent Sinhalese Ceylon9 thanks to the British). Later many were forcibly deported against their wish to South India, strange land to them, just because their ancestors arrived from there over a century ago. All because most Sinhalese were suffering from all sorts of complexes and did want these Tamils to live amongst them and decide, have a say in the Sinhalese areas, or elect members of parliament to represent them from these areas, thinking this will diminish Sinhalese power. Not only for this Indian origin Tamil but even for the native Tamils. Strange, even the ancestors of more than half the present-day so-called Sinhalese population also arrived from South India a few centuries ago, including the ancestors of many of the Sinhalese legislators, who have legislated this bill.

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            Why weren’t they also made statelessly and deported back to South India? After all that is good for the Tamil is good for the Sinhalese too. However, to deliberately increase the number of Sinhalese members of parliament in the Kandyan and other estate areas, these stateless Indian origin estate Tamils, who had no rights and vote, were counted like some sort of cattle, to create more Sinhalese MPS and electorates in the estate areas. This is not ridiculous racist or mean to you? You and most Sinhalese kept quiet supported this move and kept mum.

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              Soon after the vast majority of the Tamil in the Sinhalese areas were made stateless, voteless, voiceless but still made to work hard like cattle for the benefit of the state for a pittance, the second master plan that had already been hatched was put into action. Flood the Tamil north and east, especially the east with Sinhalese, to deliberately change the demography and make the Tamils a voiceless minority in their own lands and make these Sinhalese settlers, settled on ethnically cleansed Tamil lands, a deciding factor on the fate of the Tamils, their rights and their homeland, or even better to use them as a base to make their ancient homeland disappear like they are doing now, with fake archeological claims to convert and claim ancient Hindu temples and historic symbols of the Tamils as Sinhalese and settle more Sinhalese, with the use of the occupying armed forces. This is what Russia did during the Czarist and Soviet eras, by settling millions of ethnic Russians in non-Russian areas of then Czarist Russia and later the Soviet Union, especially in Ukraine, and then using them to start wars, disturbances, if these people do not toe the line, that Russian wants. You can see the result now. During the Stalinist era and his ridiculous policies, millions of Ukrainians died of starvation, ironically in Ukraine known as the breadbasket of the world,

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                and to replace them millions of ethnic Russians were settled in eastern and southeast Ukraine. So Tamils living down south who arrived and lived amongst the Sinhalese down south and immensely contributed to the southern Sinhalese economy, should have no say, or decide or even have MPS from these areas but Sinhalese who arrived recently and settled by the sate on ethnically cleansed Tamil lands in the north and east should decide on the fate of the Tamils and their homeland. What your racist government did with the support of the Sinhalese is only ridiculous and not what the Pandi Kutti states. It is Sinhalese racism and the Sinhalese who ruined the country. The LTTE is a by-product of Sinhalese racism, which Sinhalese do not want to acknowledge and did not ruin the country.

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              Rohan ,

              The South indians who integrated with the sinhalese were from Kerla. They married sinhalese and got integrated and became patriots, where as the tamil migrants (recent or earlier) are a curse. We sent back 1 million recent migrant tamils through sirima -Shasthry-pact and another 1 million after 83.

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                RAVIPERERA
                The Sinhala speaking Demela

                “The South indians who integrated with the sinhalese were from Kerla. They married sinhalese and got integrated and became patriots, …….”

                Which means they not only became shame patriots but crooks and racists.

                Most came from Tamilnadu (your toilet nadu) which seems ready to support your existence.

                The key people who are involved in the largest human rescue operation (preventing you from starvation and death) is being conducted by four of your distant cousins, Hindian Tamils from Tamilnadu ( Permanent Representative of India to the United Nations – T. S. Tirumurti), Subrahmanyam Jaishankar (Minister of External Affairs), Nirmala Sitharaman (Minister of Finance), T. V. Somanathan (Finance Secretary).

                We know how ungrateful you lot are. By making lot of noises from the front and back, don’t let the people of this island die. One should know when to shut up if they can’t talk sense.

                I suggest you visit Prof Sudharsan Seneviratne (The Baratas A Case of Community Integration in Early Historic Sri Lanka, Cankam works as a source for the archaeologists some observations, ….. ), Prof Gananath Obeyesekere, Prof R A L H Gunawardana, ….. W S Karunathillake (TAMIL INFLUENCE ON THA STRUCTURE OF SINHALESE LANGUAGE), C E Godakumbura (The Dravidian Element in Sinhalese), …

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                  Ado Boru Vedda (You are a Tamil)

                  The people you mention here as saving us, should infact help us. That is their duty for sending Tamils to create trouble to sinhale

                  You have mentioned some names of historians, try and collate all the information and take it up with the UN to get your Eelam

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                    RAVIPERERA
                    Sinhala Speaking Demela.

                    Did you see your brave heart strong man Sinhala/Buddhist Gota hiding behind his wife and sisters last night? Poor fellow. Like your brethren VP he too must be looking for hiding places, not in a war but from the very people who voted for him.

                    What could you do when your head is fill entirely with racist s**t, paranoia and colonial anger and hunger. Go to Hindian High Commission where you used to visit. They may feed you with Baji and Masala tea.

                    “The people you mention here as saving us, should infact help us. “

                    First learn to stop digging then you can find the means to come out of the pit. Blaming others will not help you help yourself. When do you think you will receive the free rice from the Moon that was promised many many many moons ago?

                    “You have mentioned some names of historians, try and collate all the information and take it up with the UN to get your Eelam”

                    I should thank you for your enlightened at the same time desperate views. However I am sure your brethren who are in Geneva right now will be grateful to you.

                    Have you ever come across those names of eminent scholars in your life time? I should think never.

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                      Boru vedda

                      Thota loose the pakayo

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                      RAVIPERERA
                      Sinhala Speaking Demela.

                      “Boru vedda Thota loose the pakayo”

                      Remember:
                      When the going gets tough The tough get going

                      When do you think Gota is likely to unleash his fleet of Hunter Killers on the streets of major cities. Already 45 young men have been arrested and taken away by buses.

                      By the the Surgeon General Shavendra told us many many moons ago he had already discovered an island near North where he intended to detain all the economic migrants (Kallathonie) from India. Is he going to detain all the Anti Gota, Anti Clan, ….. protesters in that island?

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                Kerala was at that time was part of the Tamil country. Not only Kerala but large parts of southern Andhra and Karnataka were also Tamil. What you call modern Kerala is the Tamil Chera country and they were speaking the western Tamil dialect called Malayalam, which was the mother tongue of the vast majority of the population around (85%) even until the early 1830s. Until is was banned by the British and the highly Sanskritized Grantha Bhasha or dialect of the immigrant Namboothiri Brahmins written in the Tilgari script, was made the official language of Kerala and cunningly renamed Malayalam, the name of the local Tamil dialect. This Grantha Bhasha or dialect is around 500 years old and until the 1830s was only confined to around 15% of the population of Kerala. The Namboothiri’s and their half-caste Menon and Nair bastards. The rest of the population spoke Tamil or the local Tamil Malayalam dialect. Proper Tamil was used for official and formal purposes. Just like the way Elu ( the semi Tamil dialect native to the island) was the language of the masses and proper Tamil was the language of the classes until Buddhism arrived. Therefore if they arrived from Kerala then, they would have been Tamil. However, most South Indian immigrants to the island arrived from Tamil Nadu. Especially the ancestors of the Salagama, Durawa, most Karawa as well as the ancestors of many of the Govigamma and Radalas. get your facts correct.

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                  One of the greatest Tamil literary works Silpathikaram, the story of Kannaki ( Pattini) was composed in the then Tamil Chera country, modern Kerala in the 12 TH century by a local prince named Illakovadigal. Little knowledge leads to lots of danger and please google and read before posting, racist misinformation and making a fool of yourself.

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                  Rohan,

                  You Tamils can say that Keralites were once Tamils. The fact remains there is a distinct language and culture for keralites. It was the keralites who helped the Sri Lankan government (along with Rajivs ghost). It may have been because of their Tamil background.What rubbish are you talking.
                  As for the ancestors of Salagama, Durawa, Karawa, Givigama and Radala being Tamil, I think their looks and general way of doing things confirms they are anything but tamil. Of course there is a small group of Sinhalese who are show the same characteristics of tamils (and the looks). May be they were once Tamils. You bet get your facts correct

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                    Rotten Pear, we all know that modern-day Kerala and their modern Malayalam language, which branched off from Thamizh a few centuries ago, are now a separate distinct ethnic group and language, that is still very closely related to its mother the Thamizh language, and the Malayali people to the Thamizh. However, during the time of this large-scale South Indian migration to the island, a few centuries ago, there was no such thing called a separate Malayalam ethnicity or a distinct Malayalam language. The people from Kerala were still considered to be part of the Thamizh and Malayalam was still a dialect of Thamizh. Just like the way Jaffna/Batticaloa or Chennai or Madurai Thamizh dialects are considered to be dialects of Thamizh. Got it? Do not make a fool of yourself trying to pretend to be otherwise.

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                      The ancestors of the Salagama, Durawa, Brewa all arrived from what is now modern Thamizh Nadu. So did the ancestors of many Govigamma families as well as the ancestors of the Kandyan Radala and upper castes. Originally from the Pandian Thamizh upper castes and aristocracy and later from the Telugu origin Thamizh Naickers from Madurai and Thanjavur, after the fall of the Pandians. Most of the ancestors of the Chingkalla Karawa are again from Thamizh Nadu but a minority of them arrived from what is now modern-day Kerala, which at the time of their arrival was still Thamizh. Keep on denying but this is the truth,

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                    Keep on denying but DNA states the truth. All modern-day genetic tests, other than one that was conducted by the University of Colombo, during the first Rajapakse term, including the ones that were conducted much later after this University of Colombo test, constantly come up with the same results. Modern-day Sinhalese share 70% DNA with Indian Tamils, 25% DNA with Bengali or other related people from northeast India, and 5% with others, largely Vedda. How come? No Malayali, Kannda, Telugh but Indian Tamil? This means basically and genetically all these people are the same as the Indian Tamil Dravidian, the parent population. We all know that hardly anyone arrived from modern Karnataka or Andhra/Telengana but many did arrive from Kerala, which was Tamil, at the time of their migration and their DNA is also the same as the people of Tamil Nadu. As they were and still are the same people. There is no separate Malayali or Tamil DNA. They are the same. Some modern Malayali may have Arab, Syrian/Jewish, or Indo Aryan DNA but the vast overwhelming majority of them are the same Dravidian people, like the Tamil, as a few centuries ago, they were Tamil. Even most of their modern culture is the eastern Chera or Naga culture, which has many similarities with Jaffna Tamil culture and food habits.I rest my case.

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                Rotten pear that fell from a Thamizh Nadu orchard. Short and sweet please listen to this Thamizh and Malayalam versions of the original version Telugu movie song from RRR that is now a hit. Then you will know the difference between Thamizh and modern spoken simple unSanskritized Malayalam, or at least those who know Thamizh will.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ADj7ziy18M

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUteHBP-8No
                This is the difference or similarity between simple spoken Thamizh and Malayalam. I rest my case

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                  Pandu,

                  You can talk crap that all you can do. Just accept man you Tamils were thrashed by the sinhalese with the help of Malayalees

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                    RAVIPERERA
                    Sinhala Speaking Demela

                    “You can talk crap that all you can do. Just accept man you Tamils were thrashed by the sinhalese with the help of Malayalees”

                    Maybe true if you truly believe Thiruvengadam Velupillai Prabaharan was a Malayalee. Every Sinhala/Buddhist knows it was your brethren VP who won two elections, and the war for the clan, then left all his illegally accumulated assets (cash and gold) to Rajapaksa family and their war criminals in uniform.

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                    and now Chingkallams starving with no food, medicine, petrol, electricity, and gas and running to India and begging powerful Thamizh ministers and secretaries in Delhi, for money, food, medicine, electricity, gas, and security. So who has the last laugh? All people from the so-called Toilet Nadu, as you Chingkallams love to say but ironically is the ancestral homeland of the vast majority of the present-day Chingkallams, including yours, however much you deny this fact.

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                    Yes, the Congress Malayali Mafia helped the Sinhalese to bring down the Sri Lankan Tamils and commit huge war crimes against them, but now the Sinhalese have gone to beg in Delhi from powerful Tamil Ministers and senior government officials from Tamil Nadu. Where are the Malayali now? Most probably listening to Tamil songs and watching Tamil movies, like they love to. What a twist. Tried to starve and make Tamil lives miserable and not worth living and the same thing happened to them no Malayali to help but largely Tamil. Sinhala war hero and saviour Gothabaya had to swallow his pride and profusely thank Tamil JaiShankar for coming to the aid of Sri Lanka and Basi Faulty had to go to Delhi and doff his cap again to Tamil Jaishankar and Nirmala Seetharaman.

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                      Also Tamil Sumanthiran and Sambhandhan aiya, also now crying about the plight of the Sinhalese. This includes you. Hope you have some food to eat, gas to cook and most probably you spit and type out all this anti-Tamil venom, during the short periods when there is electricity. Looks like thoroughly frustrated, as a war hero has not delivered the goods and a Sinhalese Buddhist Fascist paradise.

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                    But Hurt Ravi p .. most Sinhalese migrated from pandyan kingdom and nayakkas of East coast and most Jaffna people came from West or Malabar coast to island in multiple waves. You have nothing in original..sinhale script looks quiet similar script of krishnadevaraya and Tamil accent of Jaffna is more malayalm oriented erstwhile chera kingdom found in literature Tamil.

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        Pandi Kuttu,

        Sinhalese had lost the east for centuries due to Invasions from South India and the europeans. There was no place called Eastern province before suddas arrived. You talk of colonisation, what colonisation in our own country.
        You tamils arrived in big numbers from the 15th century and settled along the coast of East. The migrants from Kerala settled along the west coast married sinhalese women and became sinhalese. These people added more colour to the sinhalese community where as the migrants from tamil Nadu are now tlking of home lands. Has great sirimavo not sent back indian tamils then they too would be talking of homelands. Thankfully the earlier tamil migrants did side with us.

        This is not your homeland pandi. Your homeland is Tamil Nadu.

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          RAVIPERERA
          The Sinhala speaking Demela

          “The South indians who integrated with the sinhalese were from Kerla. They married sinhalese and got integrated and became patriots, …….”

          Which means they not only became shame patriots but crooks and racists.

          Most came from Tamilnadu (your toilet nadu) which seems ready to support your existence.

          The key people who are involved in the largest human rescue operation (preventing you from starvation and death) is being conducted by four of your distant cousins, Hindian Tamils from Tamilnadu ( Permanent Representative of India to the United Nations – T. S. Tirumurti), Subrahmanyam Jaishankar (Minister of External Affairs), Nirmala Sitharaman (Minister of Finance), T. V. Somanathan (Finance Secretary).

          We know how ungrateful you lot are. By making lot of noises from the front and back, don’t let the people of this island die. One should know when to shut up if they can’t talk sense.

          I suggest you visit Prof Sudharsan Seneviratne (The Baratas A Case of Community Integration in Early Historic Sri Lanka, Cankam works as a source for the archaeologists some observations, ….. ), Prof Gananath Obeyesekere, Prof R A L H Gunawardana, ….. W S Karunathillake (TAMIL INFLUENCE ON THA STRUCTURE OF SINHALESE LANGUAGE), C E Godakumbura (The Dravidian Element in Sinhalese), …

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          Good now dance to this song in your native Malayalam language. Oops sorry they were speaking Thamizh and identified themselves as Thamizh when they migrated to the island and the land was then called Chera Nadu. 99% of the migrants who came to the island from South India, 90% of them from Thamizh Nadu all assimilated into the Chingkalla identity and not into the Eezham Thamizh identity,. Read the history of the Chingkalla Karawa. Salagama, Durawa, Berewa, as well as the history of most so-called Chingkalla low country upper Govigama and Kandyan aristocrats and upper castes. By the way, I am a Pandi Kutti and am proud to ba piglet ( smile) and not Pandi Kuttu like some Kolikuttu banana or some rotten fruit like you. Now dance to this song in the Thamizh language of your ancestors who arrived either from then Thamizh Kerala or Thamizh Nadu.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKsGC0Rpfy8

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            Ado Pandi Kuttu,

            Sinhalese are not from Tamil nadu origin you idiot. Looks and characteristics are much better in the sinhalese.

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              RAVIPERERA

              The Sinhala/Speaking Demela

              “Sinhalese are not from Tamil nadu origin you idiot.”

              You sound pathetic.
              You are indeed pathetic.

              “Looks and characteristics are much better in the sinhalese.”

              Such as…….
              Land grabbing, Committing War Crimes, Illegal sand mining, Tax Dodging, Groping, Temple Building, Murderers are being celebrated as heroes, Myth Making, Corruption, …..

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              (Part II)
              Tamil region extended from ‘hills of Vishnu’ (Thirupathi) in the north to oceans at the cape in the south. This region of cool waters were the four great cities of:
              1. Madurai with its towers;
              2. Uraiyur which was famous;
              3. Tumultuous Kanchi; and
              4. Lastly Puhar with roaring waters of Kaveri and the ocean
              From the time of the Northern Indian, Maurya Empire 250 BCE,to the advent of the British and thereafter!
              The inhabitants were Dravidians and unfortunately not Aryans!! Certainly you are not interested in that aspect.
              They came from the pre-dominantly Western Ghats region according to records, which was definitely part of TAMILAKAM of South Indian Peninsula.
              Perhaps, may I add Chera Country, Chera Nadu Chera Kingdom ceased to exist at the time of ascension to power of Hyder Ali, father of Tippu Sultan.
              There was no Kerala state, presidency or province of India when this migration occurred took place to Sri Lankan to augment the spice trade.
              Even then, Sri Lankans were hunting for enhanced exports to feed and keep locals happy!! Migrant families, were all TAMIL speaking when uprooted as whole families and translocated in their Sri Lankan places of domicile!!

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            (Part I)
            Ravi P,
            When this immigration took place of the “spice workers” to then Ceylon, 600+ years ago, there was no TAMIL NADU as now!! Not even Madras Presidency of the British empire
            They were indeed from South India, part of the then TAMILAKAM.
            TAMILAKAM as cited in Tholkapiyam and Pura Nanuroo and ancient maps of that time, includes CHERA NADU, CHOLA NADU AND PANDIYA NADU, the ancient 3 major Tamil kingdoms of South India and a surfeit of smaller states paying tribute to the above major Kingdoms.
            There was a brief period a 4th Kingdom in the TAMILAKAM of ancient India a 4th NADU being that of the Pallawa’s (mid and southern part of present day Andra Pradesh and Northern Chola Kingdom)
            Briefly deviating to another interesting matter, spelt out by His Excellency, Late Abdul Kalam, former president of India and famous Rocket and Aerospace scientist, who successfully headed and launched the modern day, Indian Rocket and Aerospace program, attributes that Hyder Ali, was the first inventor of battle front Rockets against the British Invaders during numerous battles of that time.
            Apparently, the British Army Museum, London has 2 of those battle front ‘Rockets on display’!!

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        Paul, I cannot agree with you.
        .
        Pandi Kutti has made a good and valid point, ably assisted by Rohan25.
        .
        There must be consistency in any discussion. Regarding the Up-Country Tamils and their shameful treatment by the Senanayakes and the Bandaranaike’s wait for the new book by Dr Rajan Hoole.
        .
        There cannot be one truth for the Tamils and another truth for the Sinhalese.
        .
        Panini Edirisinhe

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      Thanga,
      “TNA for internationalizing the human and political rights of the Tamils.”

      Did they?
      I thought Tigers and the Tamil diaspora did that internationalisation.

      Thanks to what TNA is doing now.

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      “Credit to TNA for internationalizing the human and political rights of Tamils”. This has been ongoing since 1983 long before TNA came into existence. It is the sacrifice made by Tamils in Colombo with lost lives and properties, and the relentless campaign carried out by Tamils abroad, that this was internationalized. None of the resolutions passed by UK and US in UNHCR had been due to work by TNA. It was Tamils in those countries who lobbied the political parties to come up with those resolutions. Are you aware that there is an all party parliamentary group for Tamils in UK, which meets regularly and are briefed by Tamils. Virendra Sharma who is one of the vice-presidents of this group is MP for my area, who knows exactly what is happening. During the last Regime, Sumanthiran both in Geneva and other forums sabotaged the struggle by these expatriates. Sumanthiran has teamed up with an financially and politically bankrupt organization called GTF which has only three members, to give misinformation.

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    KD, though there may be no productive outcome after these meetings,( especially with mafia family) do you have any political suggestions or options for TNA. Didn’t Tamil political parties try everything in the book to end up where they are?? 50% of Tamils are unhappy for discussing with government whereas other 50 % are unhappy for TNA not making progress. In the mean time crook Udaya says TNA is trying to get Eelam by exploiting the current adverse situation (just like what he does for living). I think Tamils in general should come out of their eternal denial and fantasy, to reality, so that they even understand their options.I believe TNA participated so that they can use the good offices of visiting Indian FM, J.Shanker to mediate a short term deal (releasing land and/or political prisoners) and get something out of Rajapaksas instead of empty promises. To do that TNA will have to give up it’s resistance and participate in such conference, which is called negotiation. Given the current situation, even if one political prisoner can be released after such negotiation, I believe the purpose have been served. Get real. You also generalize RW’s intentions as TNA’s for their participation. Lanka is all about generalize, minimize, normalize, denial, stereotype …..

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      KD, amidst Putin’s war Ukraine is still negotiating and not refusing to sit with hostile Russians. How can you accuse TNA as “habitually bums’ when they do the same.

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        KD, though you avoided answering to my question, I didn’t expect to get it so soon, from Mirihana. Will war heroes turn their guns on our own starving public ???

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        ” Ukraine is still negotiating and not refusing to sit with hostile Russians. “
        Hmmm
        “Direct talks between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelenskyy would be “counterproductive”, the Russian foreign minister said Monday, as delegations prepared for Turkey-hosted talks on Moscow’s military operation.” (Soucre: the Hindu)
        *
        Face-to-face talks between Russia and Ukraine delegations begin in Turkey (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvU7nL87AT8)
        .
        “ISTANBUL — Ukrainian negotiators in Turkey said Tuesday they had offered a detailed peace proposal to their Russian counterparts, exchanging military neutrality for security guarantees, as Moscow said it would “drastically reduce” military activity…”
        .
        Wonder if the parties were standing during the talks.

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      TNA is helpless and scared. So the best thing is to hoodwink Tamils. Few members who are not happy with what Sambandan and Sumanthiran are doing are being silenced, even with threats of getting them arrested. All these statements issued by TNA are mere shadow boxing.

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        Dr.GS,

        It is true that the TNA is helpless and they are not getting adequate support even from India. But the Tamil political class as a whole is helpless. The diaspora may be able to internationalize some issues and some Western countries may apply a little pressure, but ultimately, the only real leverage the SL Tamils have is their connection to TN and whatever little clout TN may have at the center.

        At the same time, the culture in TN is changing very fast, with people becoming more individualistic and more Westernized, so there is a real danger that even that little leverage will be lost soon. If the TNA is acting based on pressure from India or based simply on the recognition of the centrality of India to the Tamil question in SL, then those who blame them have the burden of showing what the viable alternatives are. Not some fantasy of working with a small number of Sinhalese progressives, as KD would imply, nor of the West coming to help, as you and others would suggest.

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          What you state is correct. Have spoken and moved amongst many Tamil Nadu and even Malaysian/Singaporean Tamils in Australia. All castes and all religions. They do not care much about the Sri Lankan Tamils or even their plight. The richer and upper class they are the less they care.

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            Siva Sankaran Sharma

            “The richer and upper class they are the less they care.”

            For this very reason alone the Tamils should stick to TNA until they find alternative leadership given that what a mess that the present aspiring alternatives are in?

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              Yes, you can see very upper-caste Indian Tamils, Brahmin Tamils, people belonging to my own community. All senior ministers in the Indian cabinet Foreign Minister, Finance Minister. The finance secretary all rushed to the aid of this racist Sri Lankan government and the racist war criminal, with little care for the plight of their own fellow Tamil on the island. I do not think half Tamil USA vice president Kamala ( what a beautiful name. Not Sanskrit but a pure Tamil word ) Harris, cares two hoots about the plight of the Sri Lankan Tamils, most probably crying about Ukraine, as this is more important and beneficial an more importantly in Europe. Then again her mother is Tamil Brahmin from Tamil Nadu. Just like all these senior Tamil Indian ministers rushing to Sri Lanka’s aid.

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              “For this very reason alone the Tamils should stick to TNA until they find alternative leadership given that what a mess that the present aspiring alternatives are in?”
              *
              Could one apply the same glass ball and bowl ‘reasoning’ to being rid of the SLPP regime?
              The slips are showing.

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                SJ

                Why don you stop being Mao’s b…. carrier and watch this clip:
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyHPjbKtUuU&t=3s

                The women all over the island are crying for help.
                The hard working people are left with no means to feed their family especially their children.
                Go sit down and think about the suffering of people. The SLPP does not need your support.

                There is a huge difference between being smart and being smart ass.

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                  Avoid ball gazing when on the high.
                  What was contested was your b&b logic.

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          If you have failed to deliver, you must admit and leave, giving another a chance to achieve. Take the case of Brexit, when David Cameroon who campaigned against Brexit, found that people wanted it, resigned the post without staying in power and cheating the people. When Theresa May who succeeded him failed to deliver Brexit, she resigned without waiting in the post and cheating the people. Because these two admitted their inability, that Boris Johnson stepped in and was able to deliver Brexit. Similarly TNA members who have repeatedly failed must admit it and resign to allow any others to take it up. Instead of that they are waiting in their posts and are hoodwinking Tamils, as if they are going to succeed. Sampanthan does not want to be thrown out of the Colombo house which was given to him as opposition leader, for which he is not entitled to at present. Sumanthiran wants to have a comfortable life in Colombo hobnobbing with Sinhalese, and does not want to antagonize them. Both of them have got together and are taking Tamils for a ride.

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            GS
            “Take the case of Brexit, when David Cameroon who campaigned against Brexit, found that people wanted it, resigned the post without staying in power and cheating the people. “
            Hold it!
            Poor Cameron (not Cameroon) gambled on it (the way De Gaulle did in April 1969 to his dismay) when there was no need at all for a referendum.

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        “Few members who are not happy with what Sambandan and Sumanthiran are doing are being silenced, even with threats of getting them arrested.”
        *
        I agree that the Tamil nationalist leadership is a lost cause, but what is above is a little over the top.
        Who have been threatened with arrests for criticising the TNA leaders?

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    TNA has actually made a brilliant move by initiating talks with the most racist among the Sinhala Buddhist and neutralizing their racism.
    Gota may be dead politically, but the corpse of Gota is powerful enough to block any conciliatory moves by any doves
    It would have been much better, if the talks commenced when the racist Wimal Weerawansha and Gammanpilla were also with Gota.
    They are the hardliners; they are the heroes who destroyed Tamil Terrorists once and for all and if they are persuaded to make conciliatory moves, they will get more and more discredited among the Sinhala masses..
    This is a classic Guerrilla tactics, strike when the enemy is weak.

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      Learn lessons from Middle East conflicts and peace talks.

      In the Israeli- Palestinian conflict it is always the hawks who compromised whereas doves like Shimon Peres were forced to take more hardline positions and never succeeded to bring peace.

      Sinhala moderates never could accuse Gota about a sellout.

      The moderate Sinhala leaders are always fearful of the reactions of Sinhala hawks especially when the hawks are out of power.Yahapalana failed in ethinic from because Srisena and Ranil were always fearful of Rajapakses and their accusations about sell out to LTTE Diaspora and TNA..

      They did this often and made a walk over on communal cry in the 2019/20 elections.

      Risk taking is a leadership quality.

      SJV Chelvanakam was ever willing to make strategic compromises making unpopular decisions taking a long term perspectives, so are Sampanthan and sumanthiran.

      They stroke when the enemy is weak.

      Let us wish them success in this endeavour!

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        “SJV Chelvanakam was ever willing to make strategic compromises”
        Like the one with Amirthalingam to give his nod for ‘Tamil Eelam’ I suppose?
        The man sold out to the UNP and antagonised not just the SLFP, but the Left as well– to what avail?

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          SJ

          “Like the one with Amirthalingam to give his nod for ‘Tamil Eelam’ I suppose?”

          At the time of your darling old flame’s rule there was not much room to compromise. In order to show the Tamils and especially Sinhalese that she was the iron lady among the male fraternity of the parliament she was willing to use men toilets.

          I didn’t see this through Mao’s b***s.

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            This time it seems like the combination of a glass ball and glass bowl at work.

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      I pity you when you say that going for talks with government is a brilliant move by TNA. On what basis that you are saying that it is the most racist Sinhala regime. Have they unleashed any mob attack on Tamil homes as was done in 56 and 58 during SWRD regime and in 77,81 and 83 during JR regime. Have they committed mass killings of Tamils as what happened during Chandrika’s and Mahinda’s regimes. They are only continuing racist policies of in education and employment and land grabbing and alteration of demography which has been going on since independence. FP had talks with racist regimes of SWRD and Sirimavo. TULF had talks with racist regimes of JR and Premadasa. TNA had 19 rounds of talks with Mahinda without any result. Were all these talks classic guerrilla tactics.

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    We could give Ranil Wickremasinghe the benefit of the doubt. It’s possible that he knows that his career is over, but that his advice could be beneficial.
    .
    However, for any of the other parties to go into talks with a government that demonstrates all the time that it isn’t prepared to listen to IMF or opposition groups is futile. If Rajapaksas heed Ranil’s advice in some matters it will do some good.
    .
    Normally no need to say more, but with so many idiots suggesting that Ranil be made Prime Minister, etc – if he accepts that, the value of his advisory role becomes zero.
    .
    Other parties, who may have to take over government (after an election even an NPP – SJB – TNA coalition is a possibility) will be madness. The NPP, in particular, mustn’t allow their identity (which falls short of strict Marxism now) to be swamped by allowing large groups of MPs and would-be leaders to swamp them.
    .
    I’m an old man supporting the NPP. They must work at grassroots organising using younger people. Guys like me will start falling dead owing to malnutrition and the lack of essential medicines.
    .
    Panini Edirisinhe/Bandarawela

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    Oh! give the old guy a break!

    He has used his guile, charm, experience, wisdom and cunning …….. to protect his flock from the marauding Sinhala-Buddhist hordes ……

    Once this Rajapakse-Family shindig is over ……….. not only the Tamils but the Sinhalese too will be liberated …….. and free ………

    Until the next Sinhala-Buddhist messiah appears on the scene ………. then it’s back to the circus ………

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    Prof. Kumar David has a very salient point,;in that TNA has not delivered anything to the people it purports to represent. Even as the opposition leader during the Yalpanaya government, Sambanthan’s failure to produce anything tangble to improve the status quo of his fellow citizens is remarkable .
    In my view he is too old for the task and should give way to a younger energetic and charismatic leader to take on the job. I know its a tall order.
    Whoever leads TNA has to be person of high integrity who would walk the talk and take the masses out of this dark hole

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      Ratnam Nadarajh,

      So it is the fault of Sir Ponnamanalm Arunachalam, SJV and now Sampanthan.
      “Whoever leads TNA” Do you have any one in your mind?

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      “Even as the opposition leader during the Yalpanaya government…”
      *
      RN, that was the only time in Lankan parliamentary history when there was no leader of the opposition.
      *
      Sampanthan is too old for the job. True, but think of the alternatives.
      You may end up wishing him another 80+ years.
      *
      “Whoever leads TNA has to be person of high integrity who would walk the talk”
      That is a tall order.
      The FP is in its seventies. Look at its record.
      The TNA (like the TULF earlier) is a practical joke played on the Tamils by the FP. It cannot go on for long.

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      Dear Nada,
      .
      I know that Sambandan is very old, but do you think he’s really holding on owing to greed for power?
      .
      Yes, we need young men like this:
      .
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQNnD4h7oBQ
      .
      Please, Nada, do something more constructive than criticizing everybody in Parliament. That’s what idiotic, uneducated Sinhalese also do all the time. I repeat a request that I have made before:
      .
      Please pick out what you consider to be the best Tamil comment by this man.
      .
      Actually, Nada, in our WhatsApp chats you have demonstrated also a basic knowledge of Sinhala. Can you perform the supreme feat? Select three videos in the three languages!
      .
      Panini Edirisinhe (NIC 483111444V)

      .

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    KD,
    This is mere Cyclic Dance and Circus of SL politics.
    Nothing new.
    Same outcome!!!

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      M
      I agree.
      It is absolute tomfoolery.

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    Dear Nada,
    .
    It’s not such a tall order.
    Here’s a guy who fits the bill, except that he is too young. Will all readers please listen to this; it is only two minutes?
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmAXfwol0rQ
    .
    It is in Sinhala that is more fluent than mine.
    .
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanakiya_Rasamanickam
    .
    As you will see there, he’s only 31 years old; too young to be a candidate in 2024. But by 2029 (or whenever) I will definitely vote for him as President, if I’m alive.
    .
    He speaks English just as well as me, except that he is already more knowledgeable:
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z__ckDXMfnA&t=396s
    .
    That is 22 minutes of pleasant conversation with a very pretty ‘gal”. Attention nimal f. & old codger.
    .
    I don’t know any Tamil at all: wouldn’t it be possible for somebody else to post a comment in Tamil? There are over a hundred Youtubes of him, many of them show him speaking in Parliament. I will be very disappointed in all Tamils if this doesn’t get done by tomorrow.
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gJwazjGwMk
    .
    That appears to be his maiden speech in Parliament – using all three languages.

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      Dear Panini
      Yes I would vote for this young , intelligent and articulate man from Batticolla so fluent in all three languages
      But will the rest of TNA elect him as its leader ?.I have my doubts.
      These fellows are very parochial and short sighted in their thinking and outlook. That’s why where are, we are

      On the issue of “point of no return ” for Sri-Lanka, we are doomed as long as the racist elements are elected to lead

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        RN,
        “But will the rest of TNA elect him as its leader ?.I have my doubts.”
        Why are you doubting?
        Mr Sampanthan is from East. SJV & Sumanthiran are Christians….

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        RN
        There were far brighter orators in the history of Tamil nationalism.
        Take GGP and C Suntha for instance.
        Does the TNA have a theoretical framework? A plan? A strategy?
        The FP had none in its anti-Sri campaign, the satyagraha, partnering the UNP in 1965 and the V’kottai resolution?
        Did they flunk the test for lack of oratorical skills.
        *
        Politics is not like school debates.
        Oratory can at best collect cheers, but cannot even gather votes often.

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          SJ,

          In Sanakiyan, I see a new leader who has the communication skills and charisma of Amirthalingam, without the latter’s occasional hot-headedness. In the modern political landscape, communication skills are a major part of leadership. It was how Obama won the presidency twice.

          Speaking in Mathematical terms, we could say it is not a sufficient condition, but a necessary condition. The right strategy, planning, decision-making, strength of character, integrity, energy, etc., are all important for leadership as well. But Sanakiyan as a young man can master those competencies. He can, through his persuasive and articulate communication and character, convince substantial sections of the Sinhalese and Muslim communities, along with the people of Tamil Nadu (and India as a whole, through speeches and interviews that become internet memes), of the need to find a just solution to the Tamil people’s long-standing issues.

          He doesn’t need to take a rigid ideological position and instead needs to stay pragmatic in the face of changing global and local conditions.

          I for one would support him to grow in his leadership role.

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            Agnos
            Thanks for the change of heart about communicating with me.
            *
            Communication skills are important if there is something worthwhile to communicate.
            I have yet to see any fresh thinking from the Su-Sh-Sr trio that distinguishes it from the rest of the TNA

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              SJ,

              I didn’t mean to say that I would stop communicating with you. Only that I would discontinue arguing with you on certain points.

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        Nada,
        .
        This is another favourite excuse of too many. Let us do our thing, and trust others to do their bit.
        .
        As you well know, I don’t just passively advocate that. I stick my neck out and state where I stand. Well, you. too, have stated where you stand. Now, take the next step! Please do as I requested: select a really relevant Tamil speech by Shanikyan.
        .
        As Eliza Doolittle said, “don’t just stand there talking like a fool – do it!”
        .
        I’m beginning to wonder how you ever got round your Trinidadian wife, Margaret!
        .
        Nada, I’m sure that you understand that the irrelevancies here are just good-natured banter!
        .
        Panini

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    Continuing with what I hope is constructive observations – other readers views, and even Kumar’s, welcome!
    .
    As for Sambandan, he, too is trilingual; his Sinhala has a better accent than Sumanthiran’s. He’s also a man of peace; he may have made a better National Leader (Prime Minister/ President) than any we have had. I know that he had a “some understanding with the Tigers”.
    .
    I don’t blame him. After all, didn’t Mahinda Rajapaksa have more than “an understanding” with Prabhakaran, which enabled him to defeat Ranil Wickremasinghe in the 2005 Presidential Election?
    .
    Nada,
    you identify as a human being, with wify, Margaret, being Trinidadan, then as a Lankan, and lastly as an Upcountry Tamil, although resident in London. I am a Sinhalese villager, never been outside Asia, but knowing some English. You must keep your identity, but what is great is that we both identify first as humans, and then as “whatever-else”.
    .
    When the book by “Jaffna Man”’s brother comes out, it will be a must buy for you, however!
    .
    Panini Edirisinhe of Bandarawela

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    “The Tamils are said to be clever and persevering and I daresay that’s true. “

    Only the Brahmins in India, who, incidentally, were chased out of the country for not being “pure” Dravidians. Tamils tried separatism in both India and Sri Lanka and failed spectacularly. What is the next target?

    As for Sri Lanka, ethnic diversity is a two-sided sword. In the West it may be good for cheap labour, but the story is quite different in Sri Lanka. Why are Korea, Japan, Singapore, and China successful? The answer is lack of diversity. Lee Kuan Yew once said Sri Lanka is the next Singapore. That was before Tamil Tiger suicide terrorism which caused a brain drain and ate up the foreign exchange reserves of the country. This money could have been used to invest in industries other than tourism, thereby preventing today’s calamity. Now you can blame Rajapakse for bad governance (there is some merit to this argument) but they arrived very late on the scene. This issue really began in 1948, with the likes of the Chelvanayagam and Ponnambalam.

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      I know that you are a racist Jester. As for the Brahmins in India and in Tamil Nadu, most of them are still there and thriving. What happened in Tamil Nadu, especially during the early DMK rule was a tug a war between then largely Telugu origin non-Brahmin DMK leaders and largely Telugu origin Brahmins, who all came into the Tamil country during the Vijayanagar rule that started with the brief fall of the Islamic Delhi Sultanate, that briefly ruled Madurai for 80 years. These Telugu Naicker, Rajus, Kappu, Raddy, Rao, and Brahmin castes came in ruled the Tamil country largely and in conjunction with the native Tamil Vellalar, Chettiar, Mudaliar, Pillais, and Brahmins. Even thousands of artisans and low or untouchable Telugu castes like the Sakkilis arrived in their thousands. Over the centuries become Tamilised and started to identify themselves as Tamil but were still not fully regarded as Tamils. Many of the so-called Tamil Brahmins, who are anti-Tamil are from these Telugu origin Brahmin communities and not from native Tamil Brahmin communities. One of them is very friendly with the Rajapakse clan.

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        All these Telugu origin non-Brahmin and Brahmin castes who were historically fighting with each other for power from their own land and imported later into the Tamil country started this rubbish in the Tamil country. Not the native Tamils but they were blamed for this. Now, this has ceased as native Tamils have taken over Tamil Nadu. Jayalalitha though born in Bangalore is a native Tamil Iyengar Brahmin from Tamil Nadu. Now 89.7% of the population in Tamil Nadu identify themselves as Tamil and speak Tamil as their mother tongue and Telugus are 5.9%. The Telugus who had come centuries ago( Brahmin and non-Brahmin) now identify themselves as Tamil and speak Tamil and very little Telugu. Only the recent arrivals from Andhra identify themselves as Telugu and speak Telugu.

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      Hallelujah!! Lester lives again. Where is A14455? Deepthi Silva? Why are all these superior foreign residents so keen to give us advice?

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        OC, even I was wandering all those who were MIA are showing up out of nowhere not to fight war, but breakup the protesters / mob, we saw yesterday.

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          Sorry, OC I too was wondering what brings all those chuvinists, who were MIA / hidding, back to action ?? is it anti Tamil or anti protesters or neither/ pseudo.

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            Chiv,
            “I too was wondering what brings all those chuvinists, who were MIA / hidding, back to action ??”
            One appears, another disappears.
            It is actually one person operating under different names, a loser pimping for the Rajapaksas. One can pretend to be another person, but one has to be really clever to do it properly. Rajapaksa trolls aren’t brainy, just like their patrons. For obvious reasons, I can’t give details.
            Who cares? The more the merrier.

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      Why the word jester strikes a chord when I read your comment, Lester.

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      Lester, wow … what a rebirth ?

      We assumed that you went with Eliantha White.

      Can you still bring your so called wise arguments in favour of Rajapkshes ? Or you might have undergone a set of therapies in between ?
      .
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_s0zbQp3Hk

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        Mr/Ms. Leela,

        My position on Rajapakse has not changed. MR and GR should be immune from any “investigation.” As they saved the country from Tamil Tiger terrorism and permanent division. Should they be removed from power? They are old men, time will do what it always does within a decade or so. I don’t support any other Raja, certainly not brat Nimal or Basil. Raja dynasty will likely end after Gotha.

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          Lester,
          “As they saved the country from Tamil Tiger terrorism and permanent division”
          Isn’t even permanent division better than what the Rajapaksas brought us? Is dying in gas queues better than having to get a visa to visit Jaffna?

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          Lester,

          Birds of a feather flock together. This is knwon to all of us.
          .
          But your eyes would not believe, but it is true, the kind of scenes went out of Tripoli, a few years ago, will be the reality FOR YOUR MASTERS sooner than later.
          :
          So everyhting is in making mlechcha family be punished this time by EVERY means. I mean every means…
          .
          JAYA NIYATHAYI !
          .
          May all gods be with us to make this a reality, we dont go after GHANAKKA, but if divine and other forces are the reality, GOTA, MARA, BASIL, CHAMAL and NAMAL and all will have to face it like or not…

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      Lester

      How are you?
      Welcome back.
      Thanks for jesting.

      “Lee Kuan Yew once said Sri Lanka is the next Singapore. “

      Could you cite evidence.

      This what Lee told IHT:
      “To begin with we don’t have the ingredients of a nation, the elementary factors, a homogenous population, common language, common culture and common destiny.
      We are migrants from southern China, southern India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, before it was divided, Ceylon and the archipelago. So, the problem was, can we keep these peoples together?
      The basis of a nation just was not there. But the advantage we had was that we became independent late. In 1965, we had 20 years of examples of failed states. So, we knew what to avoid — racial conflict, linguistic strife, religious conflict. We saw Ceylon.
      Thereafter, we knew that if we embarked on any of these romantic ideas, to revive a mythical past of greatness and culture, we’d be damned. So, there’s no return to nativism. We have left our moorings. We’re all stranded here to make a better or worse living than in our own original countries.”
      https://www.sundaytimes.lk/070902/International/i516.htmlsri

      “That was before Tamil Tiger suicide terrorism which caused a brain drain and ate up the foreign exchange reserves of the country.”

      Why did this island suffer from Foreign Exchange shortages during Siri Mao’s rule in the early 1970s?

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        Vedda,

        ” In 1965, we had 20 years of examples of failed states. So, we knew what to avoid — racial conflict, linguistic strife, religious conflict. We saw Ceylon.”

        Is that why Lee Kuan Yew divided Malaya into two, giving the ethnic Chinese control of Singapore? Singapore is even less democratic than Sri Lanka, with one family controlling the government for 50 years. Why is Singapore successful? It has nothing to do with “human rights.” Probably the Confucian ethics which values hard work and discipline over religion and nonsense like casteism. Lee Kuan Yew thought that Malays (Muslims) would prevent the country from moving forward. Similarly in China, Muslims are treated very poorly. They are put into camps and forced to eat pork while learning Mandarin Chinese. When Gnanasara created a non-violent debate about Muslims, people called him a racist. He went to jail. And then Easter Sunday happened.

        Lee Kuan Yew did one thing very well. He made English the official language of schools as well as turn Singapore into a technology innovation hub. I suggested the same for Sri Lanka 25 years ago.

        “Why did this island suffer from Foreign Exchange shortages during Siri Mao’s rule in the early 1970s?”

        Are you collecting your data from TamilNet?

        https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/graph_country.php?p=0&c=Sri-Lanka&i=reserves

        War is a big drain on foreign exchange reserves, for obvious reasons. As soon as the war ended in 2009, reserves increased dramatically.

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          Lester,
          “As soon as the war ended in 2009, reserves increased dramatically.”
          Of course, any idiot can borrow money, put it in the bank, and show “reserves”. Just as as any idiot with 10 times the enemy’s resources can “win” a war. Back to your old games, I see.

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            Codger,

            Nanthikadal economics? Money is not borrowed to fill up “foreign exchange reserves”, money is borrowed to repay interest on loans.

            Any idiot can blow up the Prime Minister of India and still pretend it’s a “freedom struggle”, but I will leave that to you.

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              Lester
              Jester

              “Any idiot can blow up the Prime Minister of India and still pretend it’s a “freedom struggle”, but I will leave that to you.”

              We didn’t know Codger blew up Prime Minister of India.
              Do you regret Wijemuni Vijitha Rohana de Silva missed his target?

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              Lester,
              “Money is not borrowed to fill up “foreign exchange reserves”, money is borrowed to repay interest on loans.”
              Isn’t that what Basil was doing in Delhi? Getting more loans so that he can pay more interest?
              Isn’t that what Cabral has been doing?
              Why don’t you go to Mirihana and see the results? Of course you would say they’re all CIA agents.
              I wonder what troll do for a living once their patrons are thrown out?

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                “Isn’t that what Basil was doing in Delhi? Getting more loans so that he can pay more interest?”

                What is the logic in your argument? The whole structure of capitalism relies on debt financing. Even China, despite having massive gold reserves, has $2.4 trillion in national debt and $27 trillion in corporate debt. Borrowing money is not the reason Sri Lanka is in trouble. It is the stagnant economy. Most of the government expenditure for 30 odd years went towards fighting Tamil Tiger terrorism. One should not expect an immediate recovery. There is a political and economic process that has to play out.

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                  Lester,
                  “Even China, despite having massive gold reserves, has $2.4 trillion in national debt and $27…”
                  Yes, but China doesn’t have its citizens dying in kerosene queues. China hasn’t destroyed its agriculture. The Chinese finance minister isn’t a school dropout fixated on kaputas.
                  Don’t try to deflect attention from the Rajapaksas’ total responsibility.
                  “Most of the government expenditure for 30 odd years went towards fighting Tamil Tiger terrorism.”
                  Oh, so you think that was worth it? If racist cretins hadn’t obstructed Ranil and the Norwegians, we definitely wouldn’t be dying for LPG today.

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                    You are out of touch with reality. That’s the problem with extremists, they focus on one issue and come up with nonsense. China just released a weapons-grade virus that killed 2 million people. Now their property market is about to collapse, which could cause a global recession.

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            OC,
            .
            everyone just thought in a no-war situation, war expenditure should drastically go down.
            .
            But that was not the case in our hell under the lead of MAHARAJA: And in the same time, additional huge loans were taken for R & D projects making even unborn were eternally debtors.
            .
            That alone proves to even AL students, that RAJAPAKSHES swallowed people s funds in high volumes. There are good reasons to assume ballige puthas have collected sums in Pandoara, Dubai and in any ohters banks scattered around the globe.

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              Leela,

              “That alone proves to even AL students, that RAJAPAKSHES swallowed people s funds in high volumes.”

              Have you heard of something called GDP? By ending the war, Rajapakse saved the country billions in future expenses. Therefore, whatever money they may “steal” is nothing. They have already “repaid” it. The problem now is COVID-19. Once the COVID ends, tourism revenue and GDP will increase dramatically.

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                Lester,
                “The problem now is COVID-19. Once the COVID ends, tourism revenue and GDP will increase dramatically”. Even the Rajapaksas now admit that Covid wasn’t responsible. It was pure mismanagement.
                Is Bangladesh begging from us?
                So stop playing that broken record.

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                  old codger

                  “So stop playing that broken record.”

                  What can we do when Lester (Jester) has only one record, that is also broken?

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          Lester

          “Lee Kuan Yew thought …………………………………… Similarly in China, Muslims are treated very poorly. They are put into camps and forced to eat pork while learning Mandarin Chinese.”

          Can you convince Silly SJ with what you have typed above supported by evidence?

          “War is a big drain on foreign exchange reserves, for obvious reasons. As soon as the war ended in 2009, reserves increased dramatically.”

          However keeping lazy unproductive 400,000 bums on army’s payroll is disaster for the country any country.

          By the way between 2006 and 2009 Hindians provided $2 billion to Sri Lanka being grand for war effort in addition to the numerous military hardwares too.

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            Still ranting with b&b in hand?

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            NV
            You can understand why a small country without borders has to maintain such a massive military in peaceful times.
            It is to protect the rouge politicians from the citizens at a time like this.
            The thieves knew all along that a time like this would come, they still kept stealing and stealing till there is nothing, they hang onto power in hope the military will protect them.

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    lester

    you have forgotten the 1983 riots that sent the singapore forecast of lee kuan yew out to sirimavo’s moon.Why did JRJ allow that riot?Premedasa specifically asked him not to send the dead bodies of the soldiers to colombo and to send them to their respective villages.When he heard his request was turned down he was shocked and told sirisena cooray that the country was finished.

    Don’t scapegoat the tamils for not becoming a singapore.JRJ was not a Lee kuan yew.In fact he was not fit to be even lee kuan yew’s arse.We never had a good leader like Lee or mahathir.Maybe preme might have been if not for his untimely death,but that too can be blamed on the war created by JRJ who increased the cadre of tamil militants from 50 to 5000 overnight and was the chief recruiter.

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    “Rajavarothiam is an honourable gentleman.”
    *
    There was an honourable Rajavarothiam who was MP Trincomalee between 1952 an 1963.
    If it is Sampanthan, a relative of that Rajavarothiam, I have serious doubts.
    Check on the circumstances of his release from Panagoda in 1961.
    Remarkably, in his (maiden?) speech in 1978 he hailed the open economic policy of JRJ.
    He compromised with the LTTE to secure a few parliamentary seats and declared that the LTTE is the true representative of the Tamils in 2002. Then he changed his mind overnight, denounced the LTTE and said that he had nothing to do with the LTTE in May 2009.
    He even said that the TULF never called for secession.
    Has he opened his mouth on the Indian fishing trawlers? In fairness, Sumanthiran did, but knew his limits.

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      SJ

      sampu, a remarkable survivor in politics,only exception being douglas devananda who survived 8 assasination attempts by the LTTE.Sampanthan sure knew how not to end up in a coffin.After all once you are in a coffin what can you do for the tamils as neelan tiruchelvam and laksman kadirgamar found out.

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        shankar

        “After all once you are in a coffin what can you do for the tamils as neelan tiruchelvam and laksman kadirgamar found out.”

        Watch out for silly SJ, you are going to be in trouble.

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        Sampanthan was also targeted by the LTTE the day they killed Amirthalingam & Yoheswaran (who was not really in the bad books of the LTTE) and badly injured Sivasithamparan during a TULF leaders’ meeting ijn Colombo.
        Sampanthan was saved by his brother-in-law’s insistence on meeting him in Chennai after a long long time. Sampanthan avoided that fatal trip to Colombo and saved himself. I know this for a fact from the party concerned.
        *
        Do not cover up Sampanthan’s avarice for position. The way he squabbled with Thangathurai (after he failed to win the Trincomalee District seat) demanding that the latter stepped down after 3 years to allow him to be MP was a disgrace.
        Then he got the seat after the LTTE gunned down Thangathurai.

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      SJ

      “Has he opened his mouth on the Indian fishing trawlers? “

      Did Sampanthan open his mouth when 37 Chinese Fisherman were arrested by Sri Lankan authorities in the East Coast?

      Aren’t you being silly all the time?

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        Say “Hi” to your b&b when you are sober.

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          You are silly Mao’s b***s carrier indeed.
          Will you be eating food which is financed by Hindian loan?
          Any self respecting Indian hater won’t.
          But then ….

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    The grouse of Prof; David in this essay is that the TNA by attending the All-Party Conference [APC] has brought humiliation on the heads of the Tamils!
    The logic of his argument is that by boycotting the Tamils would have been saved that ignominy! Whether it was on the advice of India or not the decision to attend was a wise move. After all, there is an economic crisis in the country. The TNA STANDS FOR A NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT IN AN UNDIVIDED STATE.

    With due respect, I would urge Prof;David visit the Hansard of the early 70s when the Republican Constitution was debated in Parliament and the exchanges between FP Leader S.J.V. Chelvanayagam Q.C and Dr.Colvin.R.de Silva.
    At least Gota was seen by all to be unfriendly towards the Minorities……..
    But for a man who preached two languages- One Nation and one Language two Nations the somersault was indeed a Pole vault.

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    True, Plato.
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    Sometimes one is faced with extremely difficult choices.
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    Let’s say it turns out, with hind-sight, that it was a mistake. I don’t think that it will be seen as a huge (or even a big) mistake.
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    In actual fact, somewhere above, I have termed it mistake. The difference is that I regard Sambanthan (whom I have never met) with a good deal of affection. I admire many of SJ’s comments, but note, with disappointment, his many hatreds.
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    And not malafide, by me. Compare with SJ (Prof Sivasekaram) not allowing Professor Sam Thiagalingam to be even considered for the position of Vice-Chancellor. How much space on CT wasted on that?
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    With electricity not unlikely to fail again, I can’t spare the time to find some of those disgraceful arguments he adduced, but I’m sure that many will remember. Application registered from Boston well in time, delivered before any applications were opened, yet he argued. And it’s not as though he’s a Village Schoolmaster like me. “Words of learned length and thundering sound amazed the gazing rustics ranged round.”
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    Some Jaffna resident must remind new readers of that.
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    Panini Edirisinhe

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