Usha S Sri-Skanda-Rajah
As the 40th anniversary of the passage of the Vaddukoddai Resolution[1], articulating a free and independent Tamil Eelam, that which won an overwhelming democratic mandate in the 1977 general elections, draws near on May 14, 2016, no one can refute how absolutely profound, and vitally relevant this declaration STILL IS for Eelam Tamils and how now at this critical time, it is undeniably even more profound and relevant than ever before!
Vow To Uphold
Wherever we may be, beholden to truth and justice, and never wavering for small favours, never accepting small scraps thrown at us, never persuaded by those nations that colonised us, lumped us together and created the inequality; never listening to yet others who fought for their own freedom, but begrudge ours; Eelam Tamils must not yield or capitulate but vow without reservation, to uphold the fundamental precepts enunciated in the Vaddukoddai Resolution – a declaration that affirms and avows, “the restoration and reconstitution of a Free, Sovereign, Secular, Socialist State of TAMIL EELAM,” that which must be considered equal to, and as sacrosanct as the 1776 American Declaration of Independence [2] is to all Americans; as the 1215 Magna Carta [3] is to the English; and, as the 1948 United Nation’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights [4] and other United Nations conventions are, to all freedom loving people of the world!
Trial-at-Bar for Sedition
Now is the time for Eelam Tamils to join hands with the Transnational Government of Tamil Eelam (TGTE), the International Tamil Youth Organisation and the International Council of Eelam Tamils who are (individually and collectively) calling for, in their words, all Tamil organisations and movements to commit to the Vaddukoddai Resolution: “…to work on projects which shall bolster the Vaddukoddai Resolution in this 40th anniversary year, and take it forward in all its dimensions with vigour towards our political goals.”
The Revalidation in 2010
We must not forget the Vaddukoddai Resolution obtained revalidation in January of 2010, by way of a Tamil Diaspora wide referendum, [5] taking place in the immediate aftermath of the final genocidal onslaught against Tamils in May 2009, in a war without witness, where between 40,000 [6] – 70,000 [7] – 146,679 [8] Tamils were allegedly massacred or disappeared by the Sri Lankan military under the supervision and leadership of the Rajapaksa regime. [9]
Some of the Factors That Led to Tamil Separatism
The Vaddukoddai Resolution was the outcome of decades of (Sri Lankan/Ceylon) Sinhala Buddhist hegemony over Tamils; its bigotry [10] and betrayal,[11] leading to, amongst other, the disenfranchisement of a million Tamils, affecting their representation, resulting in a Sinhala majoritarian stranglehold in parliament – ensuing in the passage of adverse legislation and policies in language, employment opportunities, cultural pursuits and education – in blatant discrimination against Tamils; in democratic, peaceful and Satyagraha inspired non-violent Gandhian protests being violently crushed; in the declaration of emergency; [12] in the occupation of the Tamil homeland by the Sinhala army since 1958; in Sinhala state aided colonisation programmes intended to blur the demography; in the deliberate “snipping of cultural links with Tamilnadu by banning the import of Indian films, Indian books and magazines, and making Tamil pilgrim travel to India virtually impossible” (See: Witness to History by S Sivanayagam); in the advent of the 1972 illegal Republican Constitution giving Sinhala and Buddhism pride of place, changing the secular nature of the state, the passage of which took place outside parliament, that broke the unwritten covenant, that caused the Tamil parties to walk out from the ‘constituent assembly’, in disgust, resulting in the removal of the only supposedly entrenched safeguard, incorporated in the Soulbury constitution, article 29/2. [13] Not to mention the outright rejection of the 6 point demand made by the Tamil parties, to amend the new constitution.
See also Factors that Led to Tamil Separatism. [14]
1972 Saw a More Potent Form of Tamil Nationalism Driven by Tamil Youth, To Counter a Virulent Form of Sinhalese Nationalism that Finally Led to the Vaddukoddai Resolution
As a response to a virulent form of Sinhalese nationalism, in ‘Witness To History,’ journalist, S Sivanayagam, writes about the birth of Tamil Nationalism and Tamil militancy that grew more potent in 1972 – leading to the creation of the Tamil Tiger Movement, called the ‘Tamil New Tigers by Veluppillai Pirabaharan barely 18 years old and the formation of the Tamil United Front (TUF) made up of the Federal Party, the Tamil Congress, the Ceylon Workers Congress, the Eelath Tamilar Otrumai Munnani and the All Ceylon Tamil Conference. Sivanayagam writes that was the year Mr. S Thondaman representing upcountry Tamils denounced the new constitution and decided that all Tamils must come together under one leadership pointing to Mr. S J V Chelvanayakam. It was in the same year that Mr. Chelvanayakam resigned his Kanakesanturai seat, (to run on a mandate seeking freedom), reflecting the mood of Tamil Youth,” writes Sivanayagam:
In the Federal Party Silver Jubilee volume in 1974 Mr. Chelvanayakam having resigned his seat and awaiting a by-election wrote about the need for the, “Tamil people to be a free people”: “In view of the events that have taken place, the Tamil people of Ceylon should have the right to determine their future – whether they are to be a subject race in Ceylon or they are to be a free people,” he wrote.
An Attack On The Tamil International Conference The Last Straw
Matters took a turn for the worse from then onwards; the violent assault on the people attending the International Tamil Conference at Veerasingam Hall, Jaffna by the Sinhalese dominated Police under Mayor Durayappa, was the last straw that broke the camel’s back – resolving that enough was enough, Tamils needed to break out of the covenant that the Sinhalese had already broken:
Sivanayagam writes:
“The Conference attended by Tamil scholars from many parts of the world was held in Veerasingam Hall from 3rd to 10th January 1974…The entire Jaffna town wore a festive air during that week. In a country where the Tamil language was denied any official recognition and where the Tamil people were themselves groaning under state oppression, what was undoubtedly the greatest international conference held in Jaffna was marred by tragedy on the final day. If the government in Colombo was antagonistic, the authorities in Jaffna were no less. Jaffna had a mayor in Alfred Durayappa, a Tamil himself but who was the henchman of the government, whose initial reluctance to permit the use of the open air theatre angered the people. Jaffna also had a Sinhalese dominated police force that already earned the hatred of the people. What should have been a grand finale to the conference ended in scenes of bedlam and tragedy. It was an unprecedented crowd estimated over 50,000, never before seen in Jaffna which had gathered at the esplanade opposite the hall. It was a sea of heads as one could see, reaching up to the moat of the Dutch fort in the background and loudspeakers were fixed to electric posts in the vicinity. By the time the proceedings began it was 8 pm. Prof. D. S Vidyananthan of the university, chairing the meeting invited Dr Naina Mohamed, a distinguished Tamil scholar from India to speak. It was while the latter was on his feet that a tragic sequence of events began…….Just then a jeep and a truck with policeman armed and in steel helmets endeavoured to make their way through the crowd, the truck proceeded forward slowly until owing to the density of the crowd it could go no further. The policemen got off the vehicles and proceeded to hit everyone who stood in their path. And then fanning out they made a sustained and relentless attack on the people… tear gas and gunshots added to the terror…several were overpowered by the fumes and Drs Vidyananthan and James Rutnam were rendered unconscious… and seven others were electrocuted as result of the police firing at the overhead wires.”
“Events were beginning to move rapidly thereafter,” Sivanayagam writes. The death of Sivakumaran a militant youth leader by swallowing cyanide when surrounded by police had a devastating effect. – The first such death by cyanide. Prime Minister Sirimavo Bandaranaike’s visit to open the Jaffna University arranged by Mayor Durayppa was met by youth protests: “a new wave of violence greeted her visit and bombs were thrown at a police jeep…”
It would be remiss not to mention the editor of ‘Suthanthiran’, Kovai Mahesan [15] whose writings had a great impact on the young. Satchi Sri Kantha in his article: ‘Remembering Kovai Mahesan’ wrote how he, “forfeited monetary and material comforts for following the path of (his boss) S J V Chelvanayakam and inspired and fertilised the minds of the younger generation of Tamils by his writings and activism.”
The Idea of Liberation
Slowly the idea of “liberation” started to gel in the minds of Eelam Tamils. On the 5th of May 1976, nine days before the passage of the Vaddukoddai Resolution the ‘Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam’ (LTTE) was formed, from the old ‘Tamil New Tigers’ and the TUF also changed its name to the ‘Tamil United Liberation Front’ (TULF), adding the word “Liberation”.
Examining Some Paragraphs of the Vaddukoddai Resolution
The Vaddukoddai Resolution is a very comprehensive document that enshrines succinctly, with clarity, important truths in addition to recalling incidents in the history of Eelam Tamils and their homeland along with the many legitimate grievances they had including their inherent right to Self-determination; that which was, “unanimously adopted at the 1st National Convention of the Tamil United Liberation Front (TULF) held at Pannakam, Vaddukoddai on May 14, 1976 – presided over by Mr. S J V Chelvanayakam QC MP – that which received the overwhelming mandate of the Tamil people in the general election of 1977, where the TULF won 18 of the 19 seats it contested.
In examining the Vaddukoddai Resolution, it would be helpful to look at the last few paragraphs which clearly mark the steps the TULF was prepared to take including launching, “a non-violent direct action against the Government in order to win the freedom and the rights of the Tamils on the basis of the right to self-determination.” The resolution explains how, “this last attempt by the TULF to win constitutional recognition of the rights of the Tamil Nation without jeopardising the unity of the country was callously ignored by the Prime Minister and the Government,” how, ” the opportunity provided by the TULF leader Mr. S J V Chelvanayakam Q.C. to vindicate the Government’s contention that their constitution had the backing of the Tamil people, by resigning his membership of the National State Assembly and creating a by-election, was deliberately put off for over two years in utter disregard of the democratic right of the Tamil voters of Kankesanturai,” how, “in the by-election held on 6th February 1975, the voters of Kankesanturai by a preponderant majority not only rejected the Republican Constitution imposed on them by the Sinhalese Government, but also gave the mandate to Mr. Chelvanayakam and through him to the TULF for the restoration and reconstitution of the Free, Secular, Socialist State of Tamil Eelam.”
The Declaration States:
“The first National Convention of the TULF meeting at Pannakam (Vaddukoddai Constituency) on the 14th day of May, 1976, hereby declares that the Tamils of Ceylon by virtue of their great language, their religion, their separate culture and heritage, their history of independent existence as a separate state over a distinct territory over several centuries till they were conquered by the armed might of the European invaders and above all by their will to exist as a separate entity ruling themselves in their own territory, as a nation distinct and apart from the Sinhalese and this Convention announces to the world that the republican Constitution of 1972 has made the Tamils a slave nation ruled by the colonial masters, the Sinhalese, who are using the power they have wrongly usurped to deprive the Tamil Nation of its territory, language, citizenship, economic life, opportunities of employment and education, thereby destroying all the attributes of nationhood of the Tamil people,” and how, “taking note of the reservations in relation to its commitment to the setting up of a separate state of TAMIL EELAM expressed by the Ceylon Worker congress as a Trade Union for the Plantation workers, the majority of who live and work outside the Northern and Easter areas,
This convention resolves that the restoration and reconstitution of the Free, Sovereign, Secular, Socialist State of TAMIL EELAM, based on the right to self determination inherent to every nation, has become inevitable in order to safeguard the very existence of the Tamil Nation in this country.”
A Call To The Youth
And the final paragraph in the Vaddukoddai Resolution is an important one – it calls for the, “Tamil Youth in particular to come forward to throw themselves fully into the sacred fight for freedom”:
“And this convention calls upon the Tamil nation in general and the Tamil youth in particular to come forward to throw themselves fully into the sacred fight for freedom and to flinch not till the goal of a sovereign state of TAMIL EELAM is reached.”
Last Opportunity For Tamils of Eelam To Express Their True Aspirations
The Vaddukoddai Resolution was not only an endorsement of the Tamil right to Self-determination, [16] “it was the last time Tamils of Eelam were able to freely express their wish in a democratically conducted poll,” reflecting their aspiration for a separate and independent state of Tamil Eelam. The Sirimavo government’s response to arrest the momentum gained by the Vaddukoddai Resolution was to haul Mr. Appapillai Amirthalingam, Mr. M. Sivasithamparam, Mr. K P Ratnam and Mr. K Thurairatnam to court on charges of sedition, “arraigning them at a trial at bar on June 18, 1976 [17] and later withdrawing the charge. The charge was that they were, “distributing the text of the resolution which called for a separate state.” The legal counsel for the defence were composed of Mr. M Tiruchelvam, Mr. G G Ponnambalam and Mr. S J V Chelvanayakam (among other), three giants in the island’s legal and political field.
The Twin Articles of the 1976 Vaddukoddai Resolution & The 2013 Tamil Eelam Freedom Charter
Furthermore, complimentary to the Vaddukoddai Resolution, and, “enshrining the freedom demands of Eelam Tamils,” is the 2013 Tamil Eelam Freedom Charter, [18] considered similar to that of the 1955 Freedom Charter of the African National Congress (ANC) [19] and the 1964/68 Palestinian National Charter [20]– this in accordance with the intentions of the promulgators, TGTE led by Prime Minister Visuvanathan Rudrakmaran – essentially created to move the Vaddukoddai Resolution forward. One which was drafted after wide consultations, the Tamil Eelam Freedom Charter codifies fundamental international and domestic human rights and humanitarian law.
Eelam Tamils must see these twin articles as safeguarding the Tamil homeland, reaffirming the Tamil people as a nation of people entitled to the right to self determination and as a means of re-establishing, reinforcing and facilitating law and order, fairness, justice and good governance in Tamil Eelam.
The Tamil Diaspora “Will Remain a Critical Factor in Any Conflict Resolution”
It may also be useful to refer to a scholarly article: ”Empowering Diasporas: The Dynamics of Post-war Transnational Tamil Politics“ [21], released by the Berghof Peace Support Foundation in 2010 – where authors, Lukshi Vimalarajah and R. Cheran, suggest in page 8, that, “any political settlement of the ethno-political conflict in Sri Lanka will only be sustainable if the Tamil Diaspora is included as an essential stakeholder in conflict resolution efforts and their concerns are given due consideration”. Read also On Responsible Distance: An Interview with R. Cheran by Aparna Halpé that provides further insight into Diaspora Tamils.[22]
The authors, Vimalarajah and Cheran, who are academics of repute, question some of the conclusions reached by the International Crisis Group (ICG) in their 2010 report entitled: The Sri Lanka Tamil Diaspora After the LTTE [23] – the ICG opining that, “the Transnational Government is being, “kept at arm’s length by Western governments, given its resemblance to a government-in-exile, even if the group does not claim this status,” it adds. The ICG also suggesting, “A pro- separatist agenda” as not being conducive to “a just and sustainable peace”. Vimalarajah and R. Cheran however in page 18 suggest otherwise:
I Quote:
“The recommendation of the ICG report to the host governments to support moderate, non-separatist voices within the diaspora raises questions concerning its effectiveness. The moderates have seldom been the driving force behind radical and fundamental changes in conflict contexts – although the peace building community still places all its hopes in the power of moderate civil society for social and political change. However, those who are traditionally classified as ’extremists’ are also those who are firmly rooted in their constituencies, are at the driving seat of decision-making processes, have a wide network, enjoy the trust of the community and are influential. They have the potential to bring sustainable peace. In the case of the Tamil Diaspora, the overwhelming majority of the Tamil Diaspora that endorsed the quest for a separate state in the recently held referenda are also classified as ’extremists’ since they endorsed a separate state vision. It would be politically imprudent to isolate this powerful section and disengage and ignore this socio-political reality. An increased communication and dialogue with all the sections and different shades of the diaspora will help to improve policy-makers’ understanding of the complex social and political web woven around transnational diaspora politics.”
End Quote.
Furthermore it is our hope, that all the groups mentioned in pages, 19, 20, 21, forming the Tamil Diaspora whom the authors refer to as one entity, the all, “important transnational political actor,” will undoubted converge to celebrate this landmark 40th year of the Vaddukoddai Resolution – the authors listing the “five major Tamil diaspora initiatives after May 2009” that have emerged as being the TGTE, the Global Tamil Forum (GTF), the Vaddukoddai Referendum group, the Tamil National Councils and ‘Tamil Diaspora second generation youth’.
TGTE not a ‘Government in Exile’
There’s no question that ICG’s argument that the TGTE is a ‘government-in-exile is flawed – because TGTE is a prime example of transnational politics and operates in all the major cities of the world, with elected and appointed members representing the countries they live and work in. TGTE has a functioning parliament – an upper chamber and a lower chamber in addition to a cabinet.
A Well Crafted Joint Statement Setting Out Future Strategic Action
The TGTE preparing to mark the 40th anniversary of the Vaddukoddai Resolution, released a joint statement [24] for Thai Thirunaal, together with the International Tamil Youth Organisation and the International Council of Eelam Tamils, calling on, “all Tamil organisations and movements founded on the principles of the Vaddukoddai Resolution to come forward and work together on this momentous occasion.”
Despite The Draconian Sixth Amendment The Push for Self Rule Will Continue
This joint statement mentions, in disgust, the final nail on the coffin, when in 1983 the J R Jayawardene government, “introduced the draconian Sixth Amendment to the Constitution which denied people their freedom of expression and criminalised the advocacy of a separate state of TAMIL EELAM, removing today the political space for Tamils to express their true political aspirations.”
“However”, the statement reiterates that “through exercising the inherent right of all Nations to self-determination according to universal law, Eelam Tamils continue to claim their right to self-rule,” and that, “despite the efforts of Sri Lanka and its apparatus of state terrorism through the genocidal war unleashed in Mullivaaikaal to suppress the Tamil people’s thirst for freedom, Tamils the world over continue to breathe the thoughts and dreams of a free Tamil Eelam.”
“What’s in it for Tamils in the Proposed New Constitution?
At the time of writing, considering the Sri Lankan government has not moved an inch towards devolving power and all we hear is that the country will remain unitary and that the army won’t budge from Tamil Eelam, we can’t risk doing nothing – and lose it all. If the country will remain unitary, what’s in it for Tamils is a fair and reasonable question to ask – A question so paramount at this time for Eelam Tamils as moves are a foot for a ‘Constitutional Assembly’ to be convened on 5th April to begin the drafting of a new constitution that’s expected in 2017. With the Sinhalese Governor encouraging mixed marriages and calling for integration in the North; with the Northern Provincial Council showing its concern by passing a resolution asking the President to stop Tamil lands being colonised by military families,” [25] it’s obvious nothing has changed except for some cosmetic props that have been put in place to impress the outside world.
Tamils Need To Go Forward – United and Strong towards a Referendum
A convergence of views towards one goal – that of carrying forward the Vaddukoddai Resolution and what it stands for is now more critical! One loud united voice is stronger, better, more forceful, than a number of diluted voices lurking to no avail – actually putting pressure to bear, to convince the international community through diplomacy and engagement that a UN supervised referendum is the only satisfactory way to sustainable peace in the island. We ask that you travel with the TGTE on this sacred journey!
We need that one strong, loud, forceful united Tamil voice – now!
[1] http://www.sangam.org/FB_HIST_DOCS/vaddukod.htm
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence
[3] http://www.bl.uk/magna-carta/articles/magna-carta-english-translation
[4] http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/
[5] https://www.tamilnet.com/img/publish/2012/10/VKR_report.pdf
[6] http://www.un.org/News/dh/infocus/Sri_Lanka/POE_Report_Full.pdf
[7] http://www.tamilcanadian.com/article/6279
[8]http://www.colombogazzete.com/2013/05/31/rudra-tells-thai-pm-to-raise-concerns/
[9] http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2011/06/channel-4-documentary-sri-lankas.html
[10] https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/sinhala-buddhist-bigotry-root-cause-of-strife-in-sri-lanka/
[11] https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/acts-of-betrayal-that-broke-the-letter-spirit-of-independence/
[12] https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/thileepan-the-reckoning-that-non-violence-didnt-stand-a-chance/
[13] https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/you-are-sitting-on-an-illegal-constitution-you-have-no-standing-to-lecture-us/
[14] http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2012/09/factors-that-led-to-tamil-separatism.html
[15] http://sangam.org/2012/07/Kovai_Mahesan.php?uid=4784
[16] http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2012/09/why-tamils-of-tamil-eelam-deserve-self.html
[17] http://www.nation.lk/2008/02/10/special7.htm
[18] https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/tgte-launched-tamil-eelam-freedom-charter/
[19] http://www.anc.org.za/show.php?id=72
[20] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_National_Covenant
[21] http://www.berghof-foundation.org/fileadmin/redaktion/Publications/Papers/Occasional_Papers/boc31eBPS.pdf
[22] http://www.utpjournals.press/doi/abs/10.3138/utq.84.4.07
[23] http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/regions/asia/south-asia/sri-lanka/186-the-sri-lankan-tamil-diaspora-after-the-ltte.aspx
[24] http://tamildiplomat.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Press-Release.pdf
[25] http://www.jdslanka.org/index.php/news-features/politics-a-current-affairs/593-sri-lanka-northern-province-oppose-moves-to-colonise-tamil-lands
Native Vedda / April 3, 2016
Usha S Sri-Skanda-Rajah
“Vaddukoddai Resolution: More Relevant Now Than Ever Before”
The VR 1976 was dead minutes after its arrival buried in May 2009.
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K Sundaram / April 3, 2016
Native Vedda
Vaddukodai resolution is more relevant to Transnational Government of Tamil Eelam to establish transcontinental Tamil Eelam. There is no more gas in the bottle of Vaddukodai Resolution.
Vaddukodai Resolution swallowed the lives of thousands of innocent civilians and it must be renamed by the TNGTE to establish a Eelam state for themselves (alone) by buying a banana republic somewhere in the globe or a freehold or long leasehold island even- establishing one near Greenland or Alaska.
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Real Peace / April 3, 2016
Hi Ms Gorgeous
How are you?
This is the opinion of you as Canadian Tamil. The man who brought about the Vaddukotai had been murdered by prabaharan and prabaharan himself had been eliminated. Only the innocent Tamils are now ‘carrying the cans.’ Please leave them in peace. Sumanthiran et als’ approach is the right way forward. Tamils want to leave in undivided SL with maximum possible devolution. This is what SL Tamils want. I challenge you to conduct an independen survey among Tamils in this post Amirthlingam & post prabaharan era.
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paul / April 3, 2016
Real Peace, that photo of Ms Girigoris is at least 15 years old and uses too much flash to give that vital ‘fair’ complexion. If she wants to help you she could update it.
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Real Peace / April 3, 2016
Paul
Whatever you may say she is still my Ms Gorgeous!
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Usha Sriskandarajah / April 4, 2016
Please go to my facebook page to see my pics…UshaSriskandarajah
I am who I am, cut the crap Paul!
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K Sundaram / April 5, 2016
This is about Vaddukottai Resolution and not a beauty contest.
The writer has not visited Vaddukottai since she claimed asylum in Canada.
She must undertake a visit without barring herself with the dormant TNGTE.
Pettra Thayum Pirantha Ponnadum Natravanil Nani Siranthathuve- The mother who gave birth you and the country you were born are best of the best in the blessed universe.
Her writings are far remote to the reality. She lives in the past. The youngsters in Jaffna do not know who G G Ponnambalam, SJV, Amirthalingam are. They are clueless about Vaddukottai resolution.
Usha must convince the Sinhala leadership of the importance of Vaddukottai resolution. TNGTE that she represents saw Mahinda in waterloo when they campaigned for him. This shows how remote TNGTE is to the people whom they claim to represent.
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donald / April 5, 2016
you are like Ted Cruz crucified when Trump spoke about his wife.
what do have camels back as your wi-fi.
She did not claim Asylum her late hubby product of Cambridge applied for domicile.
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Real Peace / April 7, 2016
Dear Usha
For your natural talents, ambition, kindness, intelligence and personality I am pleading with you to move to the center ground. Your association with the LTTE/TGTE is masking all your good qualities. You are one of the most formidable Tamil woman activists I ever came across. Hope we can meet one day!
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donald / April 7, 2016
But you started the wrong way. You don’t know her relatives even at Canada- they too are very strong characters, but unlike her they are not open activist. Paul the picture is not doctored.
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Dankottuwa Manike / April 7, 2016
Usha Sriskandarajah
People say I am a very pretty lady looking like Ayswarya Rai. In my Reddhe and Hatta, I am told I am really beautiful.
My beauty is my beauty and I don’t give undue publicity in websites.
We must meet one day and you will be stunned.
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donald / April 8, 2016
Dankottuwa Manike ,
She would never get pink when angry like Europeans do.
this is no joke but true.
3 of my friends living together as neighbors – southern Italian, Northern English, Northern Swedish,
went sunbathing to Morocco and they returned a bit put off- generally they are happy middle class folk doing well in life.
I asked the Italian why are you morose and she said the other 2 were terrible because i got a better sun tan than them its us down south who get it easily.
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Dankottuwa Manike / April 9, 2016
Donald
I am a married woman with children.
My beauty attracted many men even knowing I have kids. They will say pink, blue and grey to put their zips down.
But I stand firm. I am not for quick mental fixes for men. I do not entertain any kind of sensual obsessions from anyone.
My prestige and my family is God given.
I only contribute in the CT as I enjoy the democratic freedom given. I am blessed by my husband to make comments and he enjoys them very much.
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lal / April 3, 2016
To Real Peace – Agree 100%. The way forward is to establish a secular, multi-cultural/lingual/religious state with the legal framework that ensures equal opportunity for every citizen. Sinhalese will never agree to a separate region for Tamils only. Those Tamils who want a region for Tamils only and, want a share of other regions also will find themselves waving a piece of paper with Vadukolai Declaration written on it and nothing achieved. Thanks, Usha, for informing that Tamil violence and Cyanide Capsules date back to 1974! We are often told that Tamils resorted to violence only as a result of July 1983 riots. Diasporans have achieved nothing yet but, I’m certain they can contribute to nation building if they consult and confer with peace loving Tamils who live in the island.
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Ben Hurling / April 3, 2016
Once upon time, Colnel Gadaffi leased land from Ukraine to grow corn for consumption in Libya.
Usha S Sri-Skanda-Rajah should check out the potential for VR over there or somewhere else like that.
Canada itself would be perfect. They already have the largest concentration of SL Tamils, anywhere outside SL.
Cheers!
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Stungun / April 5, 2016
Ben Hurling,
“They already have the largest concentration of SL Tamils, anywhere outside SL. “
I thought you had a head above your shoulders or are you a confirmed bigot?
Did you go to Australia in a boat as a refugee??
Even today Tamils of high standing are going to Canada under permanent immigration like Australian VIP visa. Money counts!
So are you SC/ST convert to frame them too because you had none therefore went?
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Ben Hurling / April 5, 2016
Stungun,
“are you a confirmed bigot?
I am a 100% Sri Lankan & Human Being. Confirmed.
Do you mind?
Cheers!
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Stungun / April 5, 2016
” “They already have the largest concentration of SL Tamils, anywhere outside SL. ””
Did you calculate it? No while we look for specifics (rounds, sq’s half rounds etc) so as not to hurt others who have been invited to stay with us in the west.
Population explosion like Muslims does not give you independence for long.
You would dig your own well economically- Last week- At Potuvil Bodhi Sira informed the gathering – If you don’t keep the Tamils happy The sinhalese can never be happy. – economy is biting –
So please bring MR1 your sweetheart.;)
I meet highly educated Tamil Brahmins in the USA who are pioneers from the 1920’s and own ranches. We generally return the volley to SC/ST if they insult.
Like you had to go to the election and bog along with the tamil vote.
Hope you understand be careful when you talk of a culture that is big and spread even before you got independence from UK by mere accident.
I am sufficient as I am.
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Native Vedda / April 5, 2016
Ben Hurling
The media has just exposed off-shore investment details.
Have you counted how many Sri Lankan politicians, bureaucrats, members of armed forces, businessmen, drug barons, ….. have accounts with these companies?
Could you let us know the names of those Sri Lankan who have invested their ill-gotten wealth abroad.
You are not supposed to nap while on duty.
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jansee / April 3, 2016
Native edda:
“The VR 1976 was dead minutes after its arrival buried in May 2009.”
Oh really!! Dead minutes after arrival but took so many years to bury. Were you the guardian of the dead until the burial? Looks like you are so lousy in that job. Now it also looks like the ghost of the dead had escaped from the chambers to haunt. Keep it up.
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Fathima Fukushima / April 4, 2016
It died in Nanthikadal with 40,000 other Tamils. Not to mention the dead before that.
Reviving the Vadukodai resolution will be the perfect excuse for the Singhala government to buy weapons and earn money.
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jansee / April 4, 2016
Fathima:
Why is it that I have to deal with dumbs like you? Is it not publicly known that the Rajapakse regime had, in fact, increased or maintained its defence budget even after the conclusion of the war? The revival or otherwise of the VR has always been a lame excuse.
The funny thing is the Sinhalese are at each others throats. It increasingly appears that the Sinhalese are duping the Tamils and the world by piling up promises that they don’t want to keep. May be who knows, VR may become a reality after all. Only that the Tamils won’t have to fight for it. The Sinhalese, by their action and inaction, may make this possible. Making unilateral decisions on the Tamils’ issue(s) had long slipped through the fingers of the Colombo govt. May be to please duds like you it often does gorilla stunts by beating its chest.
Take some time to think about this. I know I am expecting too from you much on this. Day-in-day-out Sinhala politicians are expressing their nightmare that even the talk of devolution may lead to Eelam. Well, then you should ask your uncles about VR. Is it politics or are they really dead worried that it may happen? Ask them please as your question should be directed towards. May be they know on what you are still rumbling about.
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Fathima Fukushima / April 4, 2016
Looks like SL will have another war.
Last time the Vadukodai War lasted 33 years and killed mostly Tamils.
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Fukushima / April 5, 2016
Burka bomber,
¬Loot` is a word that came into the Cambridge dictionary from Caliphate Islam
North India.
1983 The muslims looted Colombo homes and continued for 33 years.
Muslims still murder civilians and loot worldwide.
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sinhalese buddhist / April 3, 2016
Dear Aunty Usha
ஏனெனில், பகைமையைப் பகைமையினால் தணிக்க முடியாது. பகைமையை அன்பினாலேயே தணிக்க முடியும். இதுதான் தொன்றுதொட்டு வருகின்ற தர்மமாகும்.
English:
Hostilities aren’t stilled through hostility, regardless. Hostilities are stilled through non-hostility: this, an unending truth.
Pali:”Na hi verena verani
sammantidha kudacanam
averena ca sammanti
esa dhammo sanantano”
While plenty of Sri Lankans and others who call themselves buddhist have not heeded this advise of the Buddha, it IS the eternal law. All of us will benefit paying heed to it, and ceasing the opportunity for resolving conflict without resorting to violence.
Peace.
நன்றி
https://sites.google.com/site/budhhasangham/dhammapadam/dhammapadam-1
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Rajash / April 3, 2016
“Vaddukoddai Resolution”
There is nothing wrong with the resolution. Its the place they chose to make the resolution that is the issue
Vaddukoddai? of all places!
“Point Pedro Resolution” may have caught the imagination of the world.
Public Relations is something that Sri Lankan politicians of all colours lacked then.
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tatcher / April 5, 2016
They never had any idea of brand name because anger overtook them and it still does
So BTF,GTF decided to hoodwink the poor fellows to bring in MR2 even though Bodi Sira did not mentioned the word Tamil.
Bodi Sira was very confident of the tamil vote.
Who paid whom??
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Pacs / April 3, 2016
That is a Fact
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Amarasiri / April 3, 2016
Usha S Sri-Skanda-Rajah
RE: Vaddukoddai Resolution: More Relevant Now Than Ever Before
“As the 40th anniversary of the passage of the Vaddukoddai Resolution[1], articulating a free and independent Tamil Eelam, that which won an overwhelming democratic mandate in the 1977 general elections, draws near on May 14, 2016, no one can refute how absolutely profound, and vitally relevant this declaration STILL IS for Eelam Tamils and how now at this critical time, it is undeniably even more profound and relevant than ever before!”
There is no question that this was profound and vitally relevant, to address the grievances heaped on the Tamils by the Racist Sinhala Buddhists. However, the Tamils conveniently ignored the Vellahalas racism on the Low Caste Tamils and the Batticoloa Tamils, in order to address the greater threat of Sinhala Buddhist racism.
In the end a lot of people paid the price, and will continue to pay the price.
Both the Sinhala and Tamils must remember that they are Paras, Para-Sinhala and Para-Tamils, along with the other Paras, Para-Muslims, Parangios etc. Paradeshis, in the land of Native Veddah Aethho, People.
“What’s in it for Tamils in the Proposed New Constitution?
A very good question to ask,
The Muslims, The Christians and Buddhists as well need to ask that question.
We know what the Sinhala Buddhists want. Sinhala Buddhist Hegemony.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / April 3, 2016
Amarasiri,
“However, the Tamils conveniently ignored the Vellahalas racism on the Low Caste Tamils and the Batticoloa Tamils, in order to address the greater threat of Sinhala Buddhist racism”
You are once again confusing and confounding issues. It is for the Tamils to deal with issues within their community. Why should the caste issue- a dying phenomenon- be used to confound the major issue that involves the majority and minority communities in terms of the Sri Lankan State. This is a classic case of ‘Crocodile tears’ being shed. The ‘Narional Issue’, is the result of the majoritarianism practiced by the State since independence and its effect on the Tamils as a community, wherever they lived. In places where they lived in higher concentrations as a majority, the situation was worse, due to the additive/ collective effect of majoritarian policy making.
The majoritarian State has also over the decades resorted to a devious ‘divide and rule policy’ when dealing with the minorities and which with time has also extended to the majority Sinhala community.
Let the so-called ‘National Issue’ be resolved first. The ‘National Issue’ concerns the Eastern Tamils and Muslims and the Hill Country Tamils too. The Eastern Tamils, Muslims. and Sinhalese living in the Eastern Province have to come to an understanding amongst themselves. They cannot each jockey for a larger shareof the cake and dominance, as it is happening now. If they cannot, the Eastern Province has to be reconfigured. It is then for the Tamils In the East to decide whether they want to linked to the north. History should not be a hindrance to resolving issues on the basis of current realities. Any one community should not erect barriers against another community seeking solutions to their problems within a UNITED SRI LANKA, where we are equals as citizens and communities.
Dr.Rajasingham Narendran
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lal / April 3, 2016
To Dr RN,
The so called National Issue for some is not a “National Issue” for the better part of the Sri Lankan community. I guess we all have the right to call that issue as we see fit and I see it as “Tamil Gripes”. Tamil leaders have failed to communicate effectively their concerns with the vast majority of Sri Lankans. Instead they have made demands, threats, civil disobedience campaigns and violence at its worst. The masses don’t like what they hear and see. Tamils do not have the trust of Muslims and Sinhalese and have created a messy situation for themselves. Who is “Jockeying for a large slice of the cake” when they demand 1/3 of the landmass for themselves and, also wants to share the remainder with others? Is it any wonder why they’ve got nothing to show and got nowhere? Sooner Tamils realise the homeland concept is a non starter and settle for solution based on equal opportunity for all, without territorial boundaries based on ethinicty there will be hope for a better future.
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Dr.Rajssingham Narendran / April 4, 2016
Lal,
If the Tamil leaders failed to communicate, were the Sinhalese and their leaders deaf, dumb,blind and thick skinned to understand? Were the riots that took place periodically, the sight of Tamils dumped in refugee camps, murders, rapes , looting and arson, beyond their comprehension? Were not the almost thirty years of turmoil, wars, bomb blasts, assassinations, bloodshed, death, mayhem and destruction not enough to understand something was wrong and the Tamils had a reason to gripe! Did they think that the Tamils were manic suicidals? Why did they not protest against the disabilities being systemically and venomously imposed on the Tamils over the decades and try to understand why the Tamils were griping?
If a baby has a gripe and is screeming in pain, it is the result of what he/she was fed and/or not being helped to belch!
Terrorism spearheaded by the LTTE was not enginneered by the Tamil people, but by the insensivity of the Sinhala political system and the silence of the vast majority of Sinhalese who are a humane and decent people.
The Tamils were victims of the LTTE and its ways. They were victims of a double whammy. Is this difficult to understand yet? The shortsighted reactions, intemperate words and the search for impossible solutions by Tamil polticians were only a response to what was set in motion by the Sinhala political establishment.
Why did they – Sinhala political establishment- not come forward to administer ‘Woodwards gripe water to relieve the gripe and diagnose why there was such severe and persistent gripe? Is it not because winning elections and plundering this country was more important to them?
Did not the Sinhala people have chronic gripe too and did it not manifest as the two JVP insurrections?
The cause of all the problems was bad governance by a third rate bunch of idiotic and self seeking politicians and insensitive persons like you.
Dr.Rajasingham Narendran
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justice / April 3, 2016
Amarasiri,
What is the meaning of the word “Paras” you use often?
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Prasad / April 3, 2016
Scotland is a federal state of Great Britain. If Scots had all the rights to go for a referendum for separation because Scotland was an independent country before it was annexed by the English to form the Great Britain, then the Sri Lankan Tamils have even more rights than the Scots to go for a referendum for separation because the Tamil speaking North & East of Sri Lanka was an independent State (Kingdom) before it was annexed by the British to form the unitary Sri Lanka.
The East Bengal or East Pakistan was not known as Bangladesh, a separate nation or even a nationality by anybody in this world until India intervened and made them a country. No state (country) on this planet has designated South Sudanese as a nation until UN intervened and made them a separate country. The same story continues with several others who have become a nation. All nations (separate countries) that have come into being in recent years following the United Nations intervention and referendums such as ‘Kosovo’, ‘East Timor’, ‘Montenegro’ and so on were NEVER recognized by any state/country or international organization in this world as a separate nation or nationality until they were established as separate countries.
The North & East of Sri Lanka was known to the Tamils as ‘Tamil Eelam’ (Tamil part of Sri Lanka, Eelam is another word for Sri Lanka). The North & East of Sri Lanka (Tamil Eelam) has all the necessary criteria to become a separate nation/country (Tamil Kingdom/homeland was grabbed by the Portuguese and later given to the Sinhalese on a platter by the British).
If the Sinhalese are not willing to allow any form of Federalism or autonomy to be established in Sri Lanka, it will only push the Tamil leaders to seek alternative measures like mobilizing large masses, if not all of the Tamil people, for a Non-violent campaign with Direct Action or even go further by calling for a UN sponsored referendum to be held for the North & East Tamils in Sri Lanka to establish a separate state like Kosovo.
If the Sinhalese do not abandon their Mahavamsa mindset – that Sri Lanka is a Sinhala-Buddhist country, there is no alternative for the Sri Lankan Tamils other than establishing a separate Tamil State. It is time for Britain (who created this mess) and the International Organizations such as UN and other Western states/countries (where Sri Lankan Tamil diaspora lives) to call for a referendum for the North & East Tamils of Sri Lanka like Kosovo and South Sudan.
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ravi perera / April 3, 2016
Prasad,
“Scotland is a federal state of Great Britain. If Scots had all the rights to go for a referendum for separation because Scotland was an independent country before it was annexed by the English to form the Great Britain”
Certainly yes
“Sri Lankan Tamils have even more rights than the Scots to go for a referendum for separation because the Tamil speaking North & East of Sri Lanka was an independent State (Kingdom) before it was annexed by the British to form the unitary Sri Lanka.”
How can the Sri Lankan Tamils have more rights than the scotts. This is absolute bull. Scotland is the homeland of the Scottish people. Your equivalence is Tamil Nadu, which is home to 70 million Tamils and the place that gave birth to the Tamil Culture. When did you evere rule East. This is wild imagination. The Jaffna Kingdom which was in existence for about 300 yrs never extended to East. Even today the Tamils and the Muslims largely live along a anrrow strip of about 10 miles from the coast in the East. Besides you are playing the Tamil speaking card to include the Muslims into the Tamil label.Muslims are a different group,who will always throw their weight behind the Sinhalese people when it comes to the crunch. The nature of the Jaffna kingdowm before the protugees arrived is something still the historians have not clearly established. Most parts f the 300 yrs it was a weak Kingdom paying taxes to the sinhala kingdoms.
But now it is very well possible that you can get a seperate state in the North (Not East). But Rajive Gandhis Ghost might prevent you from achiveing this dream.
“If the Sinhalese do not abandon their Mahavamsa mindset – that Sri Lanka is a Sinhala-Buddhist country, there is no alternative for the Sri Lankan Tamils other than establishing a separate Tamil State”
You sound very cocky even after the nandikadal routing. Keep it up mate that’s the way.
Wether Sinhala people abandon the Mahavansa mindset or not, the fact remains that Sri Lanka is the country that gave birth to the sinhala culture and Sinhalese will always be identified with Sri Lanka.
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Paul- Real Sivan Sankaran Sarma / April 3, 2016
“How can the Sri Lankan Tamils have more rights than the scotts. This is absolute bull. Scotland is the homeland of the Scottish people. Your equivalence is Tamil Nadu, which is home to 70 million Tamils and the place that gave birth to the Tamil Culture. When did you evere rule East”
You are noting but a racist piece of extremist Sinhalese sh– who is now trying to rewrite history. Where do you get your information from ? The Lankaweb? Spur the bible of Sinhalese misinformation that is largely run and supported by recently Sinhalised largely low caste Indian Tamil imports.
Tamils have an vary ancient history in Sri Lanka. and the north and east of the island have been Tamil and never Sinhalese from ancient times. Oh by the way the Tamils and the Tamil Muslims in the east do not just occupy the coastal strip but all of the east. Is this also part of the Lankaweb lies and fairy tale and myths? Their number may thin out in the interior just like the numbers of the Sinhalese thin out the further inland you go but the entire east ancient Tamil and not Sinhalese by repeating your extremist Lankaweb/Spur fairy tales constantly at various forums does not make a lie a truth.
Tamils don’t belong but the Sinhalese who are largely descended from indigenous and Indian Tamil immigrants belong to use your own words what a lot of bull. Most of you Sinhalese are purely descended from South Indian immigrant who only came to this island a few centuries ago.
Both Tamil Eelam and modern day Tamil Nadu are the homeland of the Tamils don’t try to change and distort history.
There is enough archaeological evidence to prove that the Tamils have also lived outside the North & East (even in down South) but there is NO evidence what so ever to prove that the Sinhalese lived in the North & East. The census of Ceylon conducted in 1881 also indicates that the two Tamil provinces were inhabited almost exclusively by Tamils in the late nineteenth century (Census of Ceylon, 1881). The Sinhalese population constituted only 1.8% of the total population of the two Tamil provinces in 1881; Sinhalese accounted for only 0.51% of the total population of the Northern Province, and 4.2% of the Eastern Province.
Let me also mention that in the recorded history of Sri Lanka and the epigraphic evidence found till today, nowhere it mentioned that there was a mass influx/settlement of Tamils from South India to the North & East of Sri Lanka or there was a mass exodus of Sinhalese from the North and East to the South. In other words, that all the Sinhalese living in the North & East simply pack their bags and went to the South leaving all their lands to the newly arrived Tamils without any protest? Most of the Sinhalese have their ancestral native place name also as a part of their name, known as Vasagama. Is there any Sinhalese person from any part of Sri Lanka who can come out and say that his Vasagama is a name from any part of North or East? Even those Sinhalese who are living in the North and East today were colonized after 1948 by DS Senanayake. The so called Sinhala history scholars will never fail to say that the East was under the Kandyan Kingdom. It is true that some parts of the Eastern province came under the Kandyan Kingdom from time to time but it makes no difference to the Tamil position in regard to the inhabitancy of the Eastern province. The Tamils would have had and yet have no objection what so ever to the benevolent and accommodating rule of the kandyan kings whether they were Kalinga or Nayakkar, and see no inconsistency in the Tamil claim to the Eastern province even under the Kandyan rule. On the other hand, I have never come across a Sinhala person or family that claimed an Eastern province habitant or origin. If you speak to the Sinhalese living in the Eastern province, each one of them will say that their grandfather or great grandfather is from the South where as there are any number of Tamils who hail from the East and proudly proclaim their habitant.
Until the Bhrami script was introduced to South India Sri Lanka Region (SISL), no writings or inscriptions was found available and therefore we do not know much about the history of the very ancient people of Sri Lanka (beyond 3rd century BC). Long before the Pali chronicles were written, the ancient 2nd century BC Bhrami stone inscriptions found in Sri Lanka mentions the word Dameda (Damela). The earliest inscriptions and also the early Pali chronicles attest to the presence of the Tamils (Demedas/Damilas) in the Early Historic Period. In fact, Dameda (Damela) is the most mentioned ethnic group in the epigraphy of Ceylon, with mention in five cave inscriptions. These inscriptions refer to the Tamil Vishaka (merchant), the Tamil householder Samana (residing) and a Tamil navika (or sailor). These inscriptions are further corroborated by a reference in the Mahavamsa which contains the expression “Damila Assandviks” i.e. those (Tamils) who brought horses in water-craft, horse merchants. For example, the Mahavamsa says the Damila rulers Sena & Guttika were sons of a horse merchant. Both Dipavamsa and Mahavamsa neither says Sena & Guttika were invaders (came from outside) nor from South India. They were Damilas and natives of Sri Lanka, sons of a horse merchant. There were Nagas and Damelas (Cholas, Pandyans and Chera) in South India and Sri Lanka (SISL region) even before 2nd century BC as per Samgam literature but unfortunately there is no written inscriptions till 2nd century BC. During the ancient period the Nagas and Damelas (Tamils) living in both South India and Sri Lanka (Nagapuram, Nagarkovil, Nargapattinum, Nagadivpa, etc) were considered as the natives, the ancient inhabitants of the region. During the Early Historical Period, South India and Sri Lanka were not considered as two different countries. The Nagas and Damelas not only occupied both South India and Sri Lanka but they were also moving back and forth between Sri Lanka and South India and also they had a shared interest in Buddhism. According to Prof. Deraniyagala, the excavations in both Sri Lanka and South India revels that, not only the Flora and Fauna but many other manmade structures, burials, Brami inscriptions, etc were all identical and he says, there were frequent people movement during the ancient peAccording to the Mahavamsa, the Naga King Dutugemunu had to conquer not just one Tamil king (Elara) but 32 Tamil Chieftains around the Anuradhapura principality alone. He also killed around sixty thousand Tamils in the war. How could there be 32 Tamil chieftains in the area of Anuradhapura alone, if there were no Tamils or Tamil settlements? Similarly, King Valgambha had to fight seven Pandian chieftains to reassume sovereignty at Anuradhapura. If you read the book written by Robert Knox, when he escaped from prison, he had to go through several places and when he came to AnuradaPura, he says it was fully occupied by Tamils (NOT Sinhalese). That means even recently, during the 17th CAD (colonial period) Anuradapura was inhabited by Tamils. Many Tamil place names in Anuradapura even today revels the above fact.
On the other hand, not a single stone inscription, cave writings, structures, or anything else (artifacts) found in Sri Lanka during the ancient period says anything about Hela/Sihala/Sinhala. There was NO such race/tribe/nation called Sinhala/Hela during that Early Historic Period. When Buddhism was under attack in the Tamil country, in order to protect Buddhism in Sri Lanka, the Mahavihara monks assimilated all the Buddhists of Sri Lanka belonging to several different tribes (Naga, Damila, etc) into one group and called them Sihala. The word Sinhala/Hela first appeared in the Pali chronicles only in the 4th century AD and that also ONLY twice in the beginning chapters of the entire Deepavamsa/Mahavamsa. The first few chapters of the Pali chronicles are nothing but fiction created by its author. Prince Vijay, Sinhabahu, Kuweni and the Lion story was a creation of the Mahavamsa author, there is no evidence for their existence. The events that took place in India against Buddhism during that period prompted the Mahavihara monks in Sri Lanka to come up with a plan/strategy to protect Buddhism. Due to their strong devotion to Buddhism and desire to consolidate and protect this religion in Sri Lanka they decided to write the Pali chronicles Deepavamsa/Mahavamsa making Sri Lanka a Dammadeepa (chosen land of Buddha where Buddhism will prevail for 5000 years) and creating the Sinhala race by assimilating all the Buddhists from different tribes/ethnic groups into one race and making them the sustainers of Buddhism (Gouthama Buddha’s chosen people) to protect Buddhism in Sri Lanka for 5000 years until the next Maithriya Buddha arrive. It is the mahavihara monks who assimilated all the Buddhists from many different tribes together and called them Sihala (followers of Mythical Vijaya). There is NO historical evidence what so ever to prove Vijaya’s arrival with 700 men or to say there were Sinhalese during the Early Historic period. To date, no archaeological evidence has been found to prove ‘Sihala’ existed or anything about Vijaya’s arrival. The terms ‘Sinhale’, ‘Hela’, ‘Sinhaladvipa, etc appeared very much later. Not a single stone inscription, cave writings or any other artifacts found during the ancient period say anything about Sihala. Not a single ancient king of Anuradapura/Polonnaruwa kingdom claimed that he is a Sinhala or Arya. None of the ancient Sri Lankan Kings or their kingdom was known as Sinhala. The Naga kings Devanampiya Tissa and Dutugemunu were NEVER known as Sinhala (there is no evidence what so ever) and due to ignorance the present day Sinhalese are talking about a non-existent ancient Sinhala heritage. The ancient Buddhist heritage built by the Naga/Damila belongs to both Tamils and Sinhalese. The ancient Buddhist remains in the North East are the remnants left by the Tamil Buddhists and not anybody else. They are part of the Tamil heritage that has to be protected and preserved by the Tamils. The Tamil Buddhists have even contributed to the Buddhist scriptures Tripitika. The Tamils are also one of the main contributors for the formation of the Sinhala race. According to Prof. Sudharshan Seneviratne, there is no mention of the word Sinhala or Sinhala ethnicity in the thousand odd short inscriptions that come to us from this period. On the contrary, a vast majority of the host of clan names and titles that we come across in these inscriptions only show affinities with the clans of the ancient Tamil country.
The early foreign traders from Arabia, Persia, Rome, China and so on called Sri Lanka by many different names but NONE of them mentioned about a Sinhala or Tamil Kingdom because the Northern Kingdom of Anuradapura/Polonnaruwa were ruled alternatively by either a Naga King or a Damila King or by others. Only from around 10th to 13th CAD, the Buddhists (Sinhalese) moved from the Northern Anuradapura/Polonnwara kingdom to the South (Kotte/Kandy and many other kingdoms) while the Hindus (Tamils) moved from Anuradapura/Polonnwara kingdom to the North East (Jaffna Kingdom and Vanni Chiefdoms). The Tamil Kingdom in the North (Jaffna kingdom) and the Sinhala Kingdoms in the South (Kotte, Kandy, etc) came into existence only after 13th CAD (after Anuradapura/Polonnwara kingdoms). Even the Sinhala biased archeologist/researcher Dr. Senarat Paranavithana says, the vast majority of the people who today speak Sinhalese or Tamil must be ultimately be descended from those autochthonous people of whom we know next to nothing.
It is arrogance if the Sinhalese tell the Tamils of North East who have roots in Sri Lanka from the ancient Anuradhapura/Polonuwara period that they have no homeland in Sri Lanka and go back to Tamil Nadu if you cannot accept Sinhala-Buddhist language, religion and culture as the significant culture of Sri Lanka including the Tamil NorthEast
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Enlight / April 3, 2016
THESE ANCIENTS HAVE SINCE SINHALISED.
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Paul / April 3, 2016
Not all the ones around the north and east have still retained their ancient Tamil identity but most of the Sinhalised and now beating the anti Tamil drum are not ancient but recent immigrants from South India who now make up most of the present day Sinhalese
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Kalinga Magha / April 4, 2016
If south is recent Tamil, then so is north !
The undeciphered Indus script with its fish, the world’s oldest port at Lothal or one of the boat design that has survived even till today in that region is a bit far away
This is something closer to home; the Island which had several names and the culture prevailing at the time
According to the culture prevailing Kelani Thissa thought it was his duty to sacrifice his daughter to the tsunami which had engulfed his kingdom or a part of it and they were followers of the north Indian Buddha
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ravi perera / April 4, 2016
“Not all the ones around the north and east have still retained their ancient Tamil identity but most of the Sinhalised and now beating the anti Tamil drum are not ancient but recent immigrants from South India who now make up most of the present day Sinhalese “
Most of the rabid anti Tamils are people who are suppose to be of kerala origin, this goes to explain why they are rabidly Anti Tamil.
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Native Vedda / April 4, 2016
ravi perera the Sinhala speaking demela
“Most of the rabid anti Tamils are people who are suppose to be of kerala origin, this goes to explain why they are rabidly Anti Tamil.”
Aren’t you one of them.
Kerala was part of Madras state until 1956.
The origin of the language was traced to 6th century AD, it is supposed to be a variant of Tamil.
I prefer to call you a convert from South India.
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Paul= Real Siva Sankaran Sarma / April 5, 2016
Actually they were still speaking a form of Tamil and using Tamil alphabet even until the 16th century or later. When the Portuguese arrived the language was still some form of Tamil. No proper literary language and the royal court of Travancore-Cochin was still using Tamil
Listen to this song sung by the Muslim Mapilla women it is almost Tamil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLcs34B0IK0
This is called the Opana when Malyalee Mappila women start dancing and celebrating before a wedding. Unlike the Sri Lankan Muslims who wore the saree as they were Tamils this the typical way the Mappila women dress, like the rest of the Malayalees they wear the white Mundu( cloth like the Sinhalese) but with a longer blouse and the head cover. Other than this the culture was very Malayalam. Very different from the Tamil Sri Lankan Muslims
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / April 5, 2016
Cool story, bro :D
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Old Codger / April 6, 2016
Paul,
Don’t you think the Mapilla ladies are giving that baby a hard time?
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Velu Sumana / April 3, 2016
King Duttu Gemunu was ideologically a Buddhist
Racially a fruit salad from Ruhuna
Like the unique Ruhuna fish coins
His family emblem was the fish
Not the Pandyan double fish
Oldest south Indians are the Adidravida and Mundari
They are assigned a low caste status by latter arrivals; the elevated shudras
Equal rights need to be extended to all communities in all provinces and not based solely on language
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Paul-Real Siva Sankaran Sarma / April 3, 2016
Vellu Suman what a nice pure Tamil name. Dutugemunu was a Naga. Nagas were Dravidians and their mother tongue was Tamil. His father most probably was a Hindu Naga this may be the reason he forbade his son to go to war with the ruling Tamil HIndu establishment in Anuradhapura. His mother a Buddhhist Naga. wether his family emblem had one or to fish is irrelevant. The fish symbol has been used by the ancient Dravidians from the Indus valley period for various religious depictions
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Nagadipa guy / April 4, 2016
Paul,
“Nagas were Dravidians and their mother tongue was Tamil.”
The above was an old belief that is disproved by none other than the South Indian historians. Nagas NEVER existed in South India or Sri Lanka. Nagas were found only in the Northern parts of India. The Mahabaratha and the North Indian Buddhist Jathaka stories only first mentioned about Nagas. Just because some South Indian and Sri Lankan people and places were named Naga that does not mean Nagas existed in this region.
Nagas were North Indians and not Dravidians and their mother tongue was NEVER Tamil. There is no proof what so ever that Dutugemunu was a Naga and he spoke Tamil. Can you give us any scholarly evidence? Please do not invent stories from thin air and make people laugh.You are a disgrace to the Tamils.
If you want to know more about Nagas, you should read Professor Vogel’s book on Naga mythology, it is available free at: http://www.scribd.com/doc/227412152/Indian-Serpent-Lore-OrThe-Nagas-In-Hindu-Legend-And-Ar (Jean Philippe Vogel, former Professor of Sanskrit and Indian Archaeology in the University of Leyden, Holland and late Superintendent, Archaeological Survey of India.)
Please get yourself educated with new knowledge and get rid of the old and obsolete myths that nobody believes today.
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ravi perera / April 5, 2016
“Nagas were Dravidians and their mother tongue was Tamil. His father most probably was a Hindu Naga this may be the reason he forbade his son to go to war with the ruling Tamil HIndu establishment in Anuradhapura. “
When you Tamils believe you have the money and the technical know how to create a nuclear bomb, when you believe that Tamil Diaspora assets are much bigger than the economy of Sri lanka, when you belive that once tamils ruled all the way upto present day Madagaskar, what rubbish can you not believe.
Dutu probably belong to one of the Hela tribes, (wether it is Naga or something else).
Sinhala people evolved over time from Hela into Sinhala with an input from Indian migrations.
Your homeland is Tamil Nadu, which gave birth to Tamil language and culture.
No matter how hard you try you will not take any part of Sri lanka.
Start another war and die like flies again.
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frankistine / April 6, 2016
ravi perera, sinhala speaking demala bigot
“”No matter how hard you try you will not take any part of Sri lanka. Start another war and die like flies again. “”
It would end up like diego garcia in your childrens lifetime.
No SC/ST
Trump has made that promise There wont be Iraq on the map.
The world is capable of creating land at will- haven’t you seen 5 star hotels on created land in the middle of the ocean??
former sex slave products like perisi koppa must go missing soon.
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JJ / April 3, 2016
And the Ezhava, the Paravas and a few others descend from the Nagas and were the most ancient south Indian kings
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Paul / April 3, 2016
Most of the ancient South Indian kings like the Chera, Chola and Pandian all had a Vellala origin and were not from the Ezhava or the Paravans get your history correct. The Ezhavas are associated with toddy tapping and with the ancient Eelam. They and the Paravans are part of the Nagas. SO you do admit that the ancient history of South India and Sri Lanka was Dravidian and Tamil. Even your so called mythical Sinhalese hero Dutugemmubu was a Naga. That is why his father had a Tamil name Kakkai Vanna Theesan which is a pure Tamil name meaning the king who is the colour of the crow. Basically the black king. Nothing Aryan about him. His mother belonged to a Buddhist Naga family that originated around the Kelaniya area. This war had nothing to with Sinhalese ( who at that time never existed) and the Tamils but a war between the Tamils(Nagas) who converted to Buddhism and the ruling Tamil Hindu establishment in Anuradhapura. All ancient BUddhist Naga inscriptions in the island even in the Sinhalese south are all in Tamil.
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Brahmin Manusmriti / April 4, 2016
Brahmins of Kerala do not tolerate Shudra Vellalas
Cholas claimed to be Kshatriya
Pandayans claimed to be associated to Pandya of N. India
Ezava toddies and Vellala paddies
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Paul / April 4, 2016
Brahmins of Kerala the Namboothiri never tolerated anyone other than their own sweet selves not even other Brahmins. They were very cruel and in order not to diminish the family wealth only allowed the eldest sons and daughters to marry and the unmarried younger daughters called Antharjanams lived a cruel miserable life. They were not allowed to go anywhere outside the house other than to the temple and even then had to cover their faces and were accompanied by other usually Nair women. If they were ever suspected of having an affair of even a liking to a male. especially to a non Brahmin male, their punishment was severe. They were rolled into a mat dropped down from the roof and huge red/black ants were allowed to bite them and then banished as inanimate objects after a Vedic funeral rite. This how you get the Tamil saying Thalai Mulugal. This was the ancient Vedic Hindu rite to have a had bath after the funeral. So when state in Tamil Naan avanai Thalai Mulugitan, when you cut off relationship with someone. You are referring to this ancient Hindu Vedic funeral rite, more or less stating this person is now dead to me. However their younger unmarried males were not averse to having sexual liaisons with the Nair women of Kerala. This was tolerated and accepted in Kerala, even by the Travancore Royal family. SO over the centuries due this liaison that was called Sambantham in Kerala many of the Nairs( Menon/Pannickar/Thampi/Kurrup/Pillai) became very white. The Brahmin Namboothiri never accepted the children born out of these liaisons but the Nair legally accepted them.
By the way I am Brahmin too. You should have known that from my surname Sharma. There are no Vellalar in Kerala the equivalent caste are the Nair/Nambiar/Pillai/Mennon/Kurrup/Pannickars.
The four tiered caste system of North India did not come to South India. The powerful rich castes in the South like the Vellalar Reddy Vaniyar,Thevar,Naicker,Kappu etc were the equivalent to Kshatiriyas aand Vaishiyars( the Chetty) of the north. The Cholar Chera and Pandians belonged to the Vellalar caste and were called Raja Vellalar meaning the Royal Vellalar. All great Tamil dynasties had a Vellalar origin. Later many of them took Aryan North Indian princesses for their wives hence the Aryan references. Eezhavas were never Vellalar and they were in Kerala.
The caste system is Kerala was very skewed due to the Namboothiri Brahmins and their influence. It was very different from the other three southern states and to the Eelam Tamil areas in many ways. It was a caste hellhole until around the 1930s and 1940s this is one of the reasons that Kerala has a large amount of Christians and Muslims as many converted just to escape this caste hellhole.
This is the story of Kerala. It is because of this Namboothiri and their perverse influence that their ancient Chera Tamil language got bastardised and a new language called Malayalam emerged. Kerala was where many ancient Tamil epics like Chillpadikaram was written. The Tamil Chera kings of Kerala loved and protected Tamil until these demons arrived.
The Namboodiris form a very minuscule percentage of Kerala’s population today less than 0.188%. These Aryan Indians arrived from the Saraswati river region ( near Indus ) 6000 years ago, after a tectonic shift caused the river to be non-perennial. They walked along the west coast of India till they reached Kerala. At that time the local Tamil Dravidian population of Kerala worshipped nature, and they lived in harmony.
The Namboodiri Brahmins and came to Kerala, seized all lands.
The Namboodiris who studied the Vedas and knew Sanskrit, had their tails up and they devised the most bizarre and cruel social system on earth.
The 8000 year old Vedic caste system of Sanatana Dharma was called Chaturvarna, or a 4 tiered system for team dynamics. It was graded inequality to sustain society in a harmonious manner — Brahmins ( knowledge , spiritual matters ) , Kshatriyas ( executive matters and defence ) , Vaishyas ( skilled workers and traders ) , Sudras ( unskilled labourers ).
On a ship we have a crew list. Everybody cannot be Captains. There are various grades including navigators, engineers, crew, cooks etc—every body has a role so that the ship runs smoothly in a optimum manner . The wages are not the same. The cabin comforts are not the same. This does not mean that Captain can shit on the faces of his engineers, or he can force his officers wives to expose their tits , or have sex with them— just because he is superior in the pecking order.
The crafty Namboodiris , under the “so called patronage of Parashurama “ made their own corrupt system. They are the Brahmins, who will hold the land —everybody else are untouchables. Even the King ( from Kshatriya clan ) was subservient to these chosen men of Parashurama.
The crafty Namboodiris , under the “so called patronage of Parashurama “ made they own corrupt system. They are the Brahmins, who will hold the land —everybody else are untouchables. Even the King ( from Khatriya clan ) was subservient to these chosen men of Parashurama.
During the reign of the Tamil King Vikramaditya in 7000 BC, the people of Kerala called Thirayyar ( sea warriors ) did trade with the Island of Crete.
The patron saint of the Kerala Thirayyars is Rishi Therayar , the first disciple of Maharishi Agastya . Agastya or Agathiar The father of Tamil and the Tamil language, the greatest of the Sapt Rishis, also famous as the first of the Siddhas , who also founded the ancient Tamil Martial art called Kalari or Kalari Payattuthe arto of fighting, that is still prevalent in Kerala parts of Tamil Nadu and the Vanni.
To make sure the land never left their hands , they devised a method where only the eldest son of the Namboodiri family will marry . The rest of the sons will make “ sambandham “ from pretty women of the lower castes who were more fair skinned than the others. These sambandham children will not be Namboodiri Brahmins.
This means they could walk in into any house and screw the daughter or the wife, and produce children. This was the will of God, they did propaganda – as per Vedic system.
Over time a new clan with Namboodiri-Nair children came up.
This mixed clan grew in numbers very fast. Just like the Anglo Indian clan of India, during British/ Portuguese rule who had the white man’s gene, or the so called mullato racially mixed blacks in the USA and rest of the Americas.
The Madame Chutney Mary and brown sahib Pickle John Anglo Indians were loyal to the white man in a strange manner, though most of them were illegitimate backyard products . When a white British man told an Anglo Indian half breed to jump, he asked only ” How high sir?” –never — Why? – ditto with Nairs when it came to Namboodiri orders.
It was this this clan like the Mennon Thampi Kurrup Pannickar who under the order of the Namboothiri destroyed and bastardised the Tamil language in Kerala to create a new language called Malayalam.
This new ” NAIR CLAN” became very subservient and dependant on the Namboodiris who held all the land, in an agricultural society with abundant spice cash crops. This clan today includes Menon, Nambiar, Pillai, Kurup, Adiyodi, Asan, Eradi, Kaimal, Kartha, Nayanar, Nayars, Menoki, Achan, Thampi, Vellodi, Panickar, Unnithan etc. (Now you know where JR Jayawrdene’s family origin Thampi or Thambi Mudalai is from.)
In time the Nair clan became the henchmen of Namboodiris, for financial benefits . Good exchange this—sex for money. They became the warrior class. They stayed in clusters in and around the Namboodiri Mana or Illam ( house ) . They would not step out of their houses without weapons. They learnt Kalari martial arts from the age of 7. They enforced the cruel caste system of Kerala, the way the Namboodiris wanted it
The Nairs themselves could never touch a Namboodiri, and had to be 6 feet away (theenda padu ). But Namboodiris could have sex with their wives and daughters. Being the warrior class Nairs could have stopped this anytime, over the years , but this parasitic clan did not.
The king was made to understand that Namboodiris are the ambassadors of god, and even he had to bow to them and also give his womenfolk for the Namboodhiris to have sex. Every word from a Namboodiris mouth was the word of god. They styled themselves different from the Brahmins of other parts of India.
Other Brahmins wore a poonool or holy sash of 2 threads while a Namboodiri wore only one. Other Brahmins chanted Mantras while bathing, while Namboodiris would not. Brahmin women wore white cloth only when she became a widow, while Namboodiri women always wore white. Other Brahmin women don’t observe purdah, while a Namboodiri woman can show her face on to her husband, not even to her father and brothers.
Other Brahmins tie their hair behind their heads while a Namboodiri will tie his hair towards the side.
The Kerala Namboodiris would do work only related to Vedic knowledge or rituals.
It was the Nairs job to enforce the illegal Vedic law, or the so called “will of God “ that all lower caste women has to expose their breasts in public and not cover the legs below the knees.
This “exposing breasts” in public thing which ran for nearly 6000 years stopped only 99 years ago. This practice was even followed by the Kandyan Sinhalese towards their Berewa and Rodiya castes. Shows where they came from. No wonder DNA analysis proves that the Kandyans are genetically very close to the Tamils.
The Namboodiris allowed the Nairs only to fight. Most of the Nairs never saw old age, as they died in battle . As a result they were not mentally geared to takes up any responsibility of family life and kept themselves detached from emotions.
Married Nair women were free to choose their multiple lovers. Namboodiris who came for Sambandham went back in the morning after a ritual bath. Since the man can stop visiting when was fed up, the same way a Nair woman can ask for divorce any time she feels like. She just ritually returns the pudava cloth he gave her. Both of them can remarry. A widow Nair woman can remarry.
In South Malabar a woman got more respect if she was servicing as many as a dozen men. The men used to share the expenses. It was common for several Nair brothers to share a wife. Similar to the Kandyans.
The low caste women could not wear jewellery. All lower castes has to keep a fixed distance from a Namboodiri so as not( Mahindapala please note you can have filed day writing about caste in Kerala instead of the Jaffna Tamils) to defile him. This ranged from 6 feet for Nairs to 64 for Pulayas, to 72 feet for Paraya ,Ullatan, Nayadikal, Kadar caste – all in multiples of 6 .
The cotton mundus(sarong) had to be blackened with ash even if new. No footwear or umbrella was allowed,in a region where it rains 7 months in a year. When the Namboodiris walked along the outdoor paths, they would shout HOOOY. The low caste then has to shout NJAAVOO ( njaan evidee undooo meaning I am here in Malayalam/Tamil ) for the Namboodiri to slow down his passage and for the low caste to quickly hide behind a tree or melt away behind a bush or just make himself scarce.
The low castes had to cover their mouths with palms while speaking. They could not refer to themselves as ME or I bit inanimate “it”, have to be a subservient bowed pose, using self denouncing speech in approved “adiyan”(slave/servant) format.
The lower castes could not do the work of higher castes. He could not drink water from a high caste well. His children could not go to school. He could not visit the temple. He could not go to the market, where high castes go. He could not put tiles on his house or have double storeys or have a gate and walls.
The over smartness of the Namboodiris were their own undoing. They did not have the brains to figure out that they were killing their own race, in the greed to hold on to all the land, by preventing subdivision and fragmentation by barring the marriage of their younger sons and daughters.
Until 1933, only the eldest Namboodiri son was allowed to marry within the Namboodiri caste in the traditional Rig Veda ritual style called Veli Othu.. If any younger brother marries a Namboodiri woman he is excommunicated. So the Nair clan encouraged the Namboodiris to fornicate with their sisters and daughters. And some of the pretty Nair women would have about two dozen Namboodiri men servicing her regularly. Apparently it was a great honour to be screwed by so many holy dongs.
They were so servile that they thought Namboodiri blood would purify their race. Today they realize that a Namboodiri man or woman is an inferior race due to inbreeding. No Namboodiri man can dream of winning any national athletic event, or pass an IIT entrance exam for cream subjects, or win a strength contest or even a good looker contest. Most are slothful and not firm limbed .
No Namboodiri woman can ever dream of winning a beauty contest. Yes they could get up in the morning at 4 AM and study hard and score well in an academic exam, but when IQ is required , like for an IIT entrance exam, they come a cropper every time
So the younger brothers had no choice but to have SAMBANDHAM ( illicit liaison ) with a Nair woman or a low caste woman. No Vedic system will ever allow this union. This was purely a Namboodiri creation to have free sex with attractive women which their race did not have, and they were all so happy , for most Namboodiri woman look insipid .
She was not allowed to comb her hair or put a bindi( pottu ) . Namboodiri women are called Antharjanams ( the ones who live indoors ). They led a strange secluded life. If at all she has to go out to some temple, or to visit a relative, she has to cover her face with a palm leaf umbrella, and be accompanied by a Nair maid walking in front, keeping a hawks eye for infidelity or if this frustrated woman is doing “mental copulation” with some one on the way.
The Namboodiri pattern was strangely to keep their own women virgins. Even if the eldest Namboodiri son marries a Nambodiri woman he can keep up to 5 wives, and he can also go for “sambandham” liaisons. The antharjamam was allowed only praying, a bath and cooking in the kitchen. Antharjanams could not wear gold jewellery, but they were allowed silver and brass. Widows cannot remarry and she is ignored and becomes an inanimate object of contempt . Even married Antharjanams die without enjoying the meaning of good sex or motherhood, for her Namboodiri husband will be having many illicit liaisons with whom familiarity has not yet bred contempt.
Many young Namboodiri girls were married off to old Namboodiri men who could not even have sex, therefore many of them still remained spinsters and virgins at the time of death. Their lives were really sad. She had to eat in the same banana leaf used by her husband. Some antharjanam could not get married due to the dowry expenses involved. Finally they land up being the fifth wife of some Namboodiri.
A Namboodiri woman can never marry a Nair man or have sex with him. If a married Namboodiri female has sex with another Namboodiri or a Nair she is excommunicated after a most elaborate 6 stage trial termed smarthavicharam.
The first stage is daasi vicharam (the trial of the maidservant ) in which a prima facie report is taken from the maid of the suspected Antharjanam’s sexual misdeeds or lack of mental chastity. Personal affections are placed on the back burner. If there is prima facie evidence (sangayum thurumbum), the Antharjanam is isolated, anchampurayilackal (isolating the accused in a special cell) –
the second stage.
After the woman is isolated, the head of the family informs the ruler about the trial, and the king sends four lawyers, together with a smarthan (the judge) and Brahmin representative of the king. The lawyers, in consultation with the representatives of the king, prepare the questions.
The third stage involves questioning by the smarthan regarding the status of the accused as a Antharjanam. The smarthan questions her sitting outside of her cell without seeing her.
The questioning will continue for several sessions – sometimes for several days – until the accused accepts the allegations and becomes a Saathanam or is proved innocent. The accused woman is subjected to physical torture during this time. A popular method was to pack the guilty woman in a pullupaya mat, like a dead body, and roll it from the housetop. Other women were also forced to carry out torture to make the accused confess her guilt. Rats, snakes and scorpions were driven into the isolation cell of the Saathanam.
It must be remembered that those close blood relatives living under the same roof until the woman became an accused undertook such inhuman types of torture. The literal meaning of Saathanam is inanimate object. A Saathanam loses her status as an Antharjanam, and the smarthan questions the Saathanam face to face to get the names of the jaarans (the men involved).
It was not enough that the Saathanam names the Jaarans, but she had to prove it, specifying some body mark in the private parts of the man thus named. The trial would continue until the smarthans are convinced there are no more Jaarans. The king would be informed of the men involved in the offence. If the accused men denied the accusation, they were subjected to sathiyapariksha (a test of truth) at a Suchidran temple to prove their innocence.
The fourth stage is sorupamchollal: if the accused men are found innocent through the test, they are declared innocent.
The fifth stage is dehavichedam in which the Saadhanam, as well as the involved guilty men, are ceremoniously excommunicated. In the sixth stage, sudhabhojanam (pure meal), there is a sharing of a meal among the accused and the trial team once the accused is proved innocent.
The last reported smarthavicharam took place in 1918, but the most famous was the samarthvicharam of Kuriyedath Dhatri. This attractive woman had sexually entertained 65 Jaarans, and she remembered the body marks of them all,including the sizes of their dongs, to substantiate her “naming” the men. It is said that the Smarthans stopped questioning her when it was almost clear that the 65th Jaaran to be named was the king himself, and the situation became too hot to handle.
An Antharjanam who has sex with a low caste man is made an out caste and driven away from the mana or Illam. She is deprived of her breast cloth and Marakuda veil or palm umbrella . She is transferred to an isolation cell called Achampura or Pacholapura. Her funeral rites are conducted in the Vedic manner, and now she is a saadhanam or inanimate object. Then she will roam around as a beggar or marry some low caste man or even be sold as a slave to Muslims ( mulappedi, mannapedi ) .
Once the Palakkad Namboodiris prevented their King from marrying a attractive low caste girl he was in love with. They threatened that they wold stop doing pujas in the temples, and then all hell would break loose due to god’s wrath. Immediately the opportunistic Tamil Brahmins held secret negotiations with the king and told him that they would solemnize his marrriage.
Their condition was that all Namboodiris ( who looked down on Tamil Brahmins ) must be banished from Palakkad. So this is what the desperate king did. He just drove away all the Namboodiris to Payyanur , and today in Palghat , Tamil Brahmins are everywhere in Agraharams, you find only 21st century Namboodiris there.
By Sambandham a Nair woman could initiate , consent to or terminate a sexual relationship . A Namboodiri would come after dark, screw his Nair woman , in full knowledge of her father, brothers or husband and leave after taking a ritual bath in the morning, to wash off pollution.
Nair girls would be dressed in colourful clothes, wearing gold jewellery , anointed with perfumes.
The children of Sambandham were legitimate, but without rights to succession, inheritance and property. This son could not eat or bathe with his father, as they were still untouchables . This small boy cannot even visit his father for financial help in the Mana or Illam. So though the Namboodiris held on to their land, their population came down drastically.
Even the sight of a low caste man made the Namboodiri polluted, and he had to ritually purify himself by taking a bath. Till he takes a bath he wont eat. But if the same low caste man was converted to a Christian of a Muslim yesterday—then it was OK
Kerala does not have a cluster or houses in a village like else where in India. Here the houses are widely separated, due to the Namboodiri Jenmi holding land and leasing it out for rent in the form of money and produce.
With the new land act, Namboodiris lost all their lands , as a ceiling was created that you cant hold too much land over a limit. It is now against the law to lease land. The temples under the Namoodiris lost their abundant income.
A few years ago US president Bill Clinton came to Indian Parliament and said “ Why cant the rest of India be like Kerala?” For the social indicators or Kerala are better than that of Scandinavian countries.
Well Bill, you must read this post. There is no way a Namboodiri is going to own up to all the shocking truths written above.
Most of the attractive Nair girls in Sambandham to frail repulsively ugly old Namboodiris were just about 13 years old, immediately after their first menses. It was institutionalized rape out here, by subverting the holy Vedas. Worse than what was happening in the Catholic church and it went on for centuries.
He found that the 13 year old attractive Nair girls families felt privileged to be mauled by a lecherous old ugly drooling Namboodiri with 5 wives, who could not even get his manhood up erect.
Today the same Nair and Namoodiri cry foul over Mullahs subverting Islam from a mosque. At least Mullahs are not sexual perverts.
Ibn Batuta had given detailed accounts of the girls exposing their breasts in public in Kerala. When he was annointed the mullah at the new mosque in Maldives, by Calicut King Zamorin, Ibn Batuta tried to make the young Muslim women cover up their breasts and wear purdah, and he fell into heavy opposition, for as per local custom this ” bouncing bare breasts in public ” was just normal culture.
He was then told by Zamorin to FO el pronto , and not to create disharmony–and then he left for Sri Lanka.
If people are crying out about Tamil Brahmins just read this. The Tamil Brahmins were not perverts and create institutionalised rape and large scale pillaging or land and wealth. In fact most of them were very poor, powerless and eked out a living as temple priests, astrologers, marriage brokers and Tamil teachers. Many depended on the benevolence of the local non Brahmin Zaminder for a living. The Tamil movies Arangetram was the norm living in poverty wondering where the next meal will come
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Brahmin / April 4, 2016
LOAD OF RUBBISH !
The earliest reference to the Velalars is in the Topikayam and Sangam
Occupying the lowest position there were six types, since then some have diversified into other Shudrara groups
Early Sangam writing only mentiones occupation groups in relation to thair environments
The Saivasidanta and Bhakthi movement of the middle ages was opposed to caste discrimination and as a result empowered these shudras who then grew to ill treat other shudras in so evil a manner as others did not wish to be subservient, only a few managing to reject them outright
Now they rewrite history, this process is also starting in N India
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=0tX4wzIUY3QC&q=six+velala#v=snippet&q=six%20velala&f=false
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Paul / April 5, 2016
You are no Brahmin but some racist Sinhalese hardliner for whom anything about the Tamils is rubbish. Only your Mahavamsa fable is the truth and you are willing to commit genocide and war crimes in the name of this fable. Typical Sinhalese mindset
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Nagadipa guy / April 4, 2016
Paul
“All ancient BUddhist Naga inscriptions in the island even in the Sinhalese south are all in Tamil.”
This is another big joke. Until today, not a single Naga inscription was found in Sri Lanka or South India. Could you please tell us which archeologist/historian found it and where he/she has written about it?
All the ancient Brahmi inscriptions found in the island were written in Prakrit language, none of them were in Tamil. Can you prove with a reliable source/evidence about any ancient Brahmi inscriptions found in the island written in Tamil language?
And please do not cut and paste rubbish. Give us some clear source/evidence.
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Paul-Real Siva Sankaran Sarma / April 4, 2016
The Naga people (Tamil: Nākar) appear until the third century BCE as a distinct group in the early Sri Lankan chronicles as well as early Tamil literary works. In the third century BCE they started to assimilate to Tamil language and culture, and lost their separate identity. The Naga people were snake-worshipers. The word Naga was sometimes written in early inscriptions as Nāya, as in Nāganika which can be identified in the Nanaghat inscription of 150 BCE. Evidence of their presence can be traced by place names like the Nagapattinam,Nagarkovil, in Tamil Nadu Jaffna was called Naga Nadu with the famous Naga Hindu temple Nagapoosani Amman in Nainatheevu or Nagadeepa in Sinhalese.
H. Parker, a British historian and author of “Ancient Ceylon” (1909) considered the Naga to be an offshoot of the Nairs of Kerala.
The Oliyar, Parathavar, Maravar and Eyinar who are widespread across South India and North-East Sri Lanka are all Naga tribes
The Ezhavas are a community in South Kerala and are related to the people of the Jaffna peninsula.] Ezhavar and Nairs share the same heritage and practice the serpent culture.[4] The palaeolithic excavations in Jaffna and Kerala region show similarities. Ezhava >Eezham> Elu the semi Tamil indigenous Dravidian dialect that was spoken in the island. Sinhalese use the Pali version Hela.
The Manimekhalai and archaeological inscriptions refer to the Chola-Naka alliance and intermarriage as being the progenitor of the Tamil Pallava Dynasty.
The Naga used to have kingdoms and temples in Sri Lanka.[13] [14] The Nagas built a temple in Medawattha, Mathara called Nagavila today. It used to hold a statue of Lord Buddha sitting on the Muchalinda, the Cobra. Naga maidens used to perform dances there
Early Tamil literary works such as Kaliththokai mention that many Naga tribes such as Maravar, Eyinar, Oliar, Oviar, Aruvalur and Parathavar migrated to the Pandyan dynasty and started living there in the Third Sangam period 2000 years ago.
There is a reference to the town Naka Nakar in Tamil Brahmi inscriptions belonging to 200 BCE, which is believed to be denoting Kudiramalai
An early copper coin discovered at Uduththurai port carries the name Naka bumi in Tamil, referring to the Naka Dynasty of the North.
The ancient Sri Lankan history book Mahavamsa mentions a dispute between two Naga kings in northern Sri Lanka.
Naga people were snake-worshipers. According to Rasanayagam,
The word Naga was sometimes written in early inscriptions as Nāya, as in Nāganika – this occurs in the Nanaghat inscription of 150 BCE.
Similarly, Sri Lankan Tamil Hindus like the Nairs of Kerala and the Bunts of Tulu Nadu all descended from ancient Naga tribes, since ancient times have regard the Cobra as a divine being by the passing down of Naga traditions and believes. Further cobra can be found entwining itself round the neck of the supreme Hindu god Shiva as serpent king Vasuki. Cobras can also be found in images of Lord Vishnu.
Later these Buddhist Nagas in the south got assimilated into the emerging Sinhalese identity whilst in the North they remained Tamil and became the ancestor of the Sri Lankan Tamils
Tamil Buddhism
In Sri Lanka there has been much conflict about the discovery of Buddhist sites in the Tamil and Muslim areas of the North and East with a section of vociferous yet ignorant Sinhala Buddhists claiming a Sinhala presence in the past due to Buddhist sites having been there.
They are unwilling or unable to accept that Tamils too were Buddhists in a by gone era. In Sri Lanka any members of the majority community thik Buddhism is exclusively “of, for and by” the Sinhalese
Likewise Tamils in the North and East are troubled about the discovery of Buddhist sites because they do not want to acknowledge the reality that their ancestors had been Buddhists or Jainists in the past. In fact of the five great literary epics (Aimperum Kaappiyangal) three are Buddhist (Boutham) related and two Jainist(Samanam)
Since most Tamils are Hindu or Christian in today’s Sri Lanka and due to the perceived inter-twining of Saivaism and Tamil (Saivamum Thamizhum, Thamizhum Saivamum) admitting a Buddhist past is unpalatable to many
These are extracts from J L Devananda
The fascinating story of the historical links – Golden threads between Buddhism in Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka was narrated by Dr. Shu Hikosake, Director and Professor of Buddhism, Institute of Asian Studies in Madras in his book 1989 “Buddhism in Tamil Nadu: a New Perspective”. Dr. Hikosaka’s study is based on his doctoral dissertation.
The earliest inscriptions in Tamil Nadu written in the Brahmi character of the time, on the walls of the natural caves in the Tamil districts of Madura, Ramnad and Tirnnelveli belongs to the third century BC. They are of considerable interest to students of South Indian Buddhism. It is learnt from these Brahmi inscriptions that Buddhism had come into Tamil Nadu even then. However, the epigraphical evidence seems to confirm that, it was to King Asoka and the missionary monk Mahinda (believed to be his son) that the introduction of Buddhism into Tamil Nadu may be attributed. In his Rock-Edict No. III, King Asoka says that his Dharma Vijaya prevailed in the kingdoms of the Colas, Pandyans and at Tambapanni (Sri Lanka). Particularly the edict number XIII found near Peshawar, there is reference to the Buddhist missions of Asoka. Among the countries referred to are Cola, Pandya, and Tambapanni. This inscription was written in 258 B.C. and is direct evidence of the Buddhist missions of Asoka to the Tamil country and Sri Lanka. As Buddhist missions to Sri Lanka had to come by way of South India, the spread of Buddhism in Sri Lanka and South India in the 2nd century AD should be considered contemporary events, but it was King Asoka’s son Mahinda who was responsible for the introduction of Buddhism in Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka. Mahinda is said to have erected seven viharas at Kaveripattinum, the capital of Cola while he was on his way to Sri Lanka. According to Dr. Hikosaka, contrary to the general impression, Buddhism might have gone to Sri Lanka from Tamil Nadu by sea-route, a route by which one can reach Sri Lanka easily. Since there existed very close cultural affinities between Sri Lanka and the Tamil country from time immemorial, the Buddhist activities in South India could have easily influenced in some way or other the Buddhism of Sri Lanka, says Dr. Hikosaka.
Even though it is believed that Buddha had visited South India (Andhra) and Sri Lanka (three magical visits according to Mahavamsa, written around thousand years after Buddha’s passing away – Mahaparinibbana), Buddhism actually began to make a strong impact on South India and Sri Lanka only after the arrival of King Asoka’s missionary. After that period Buddhism had spread widely in Tamil Nadu and won the patronage of the rulers. The major urban centers of Kanchipuram, Kaveripattinam, Uragapura (Uraiyur), and Madurai were not only centers of Buddhism, but these were also important centers of Pali learning. The other minor towns of Tamil country where Buddhism was active were Buddhamangalam, Sanghamangalam, Kumbakonam, Mayurapattanam, Alamkudipatti, Kuvam, Sanghamangai, Tiruppadirippuliyur, and so on.
Tamil Buddhists contribute to Buddhist scriptures
It was at this time that Tamil Nadu gave some of its greatest scholars (both Theravada and Mahayana) to the Buddhist world. Tamil Nadu boasted of outstanding Buddhist monks, who had made remarkable contributions to Buddhist thought and learning. Three of the greatest Pali scholars of this period were Buddhaghosa, Buddhadatta, and Dhammapala and all three of them were associated with Buddhist establishments in the Tamil kingdoms.
Tamil Buddhist monk Thera Buddhaatta lived during the time of Accyutarikkanta, the Kalabra ruler of the Cola-Nadu; was a senior contemporary of Buddhaghosa. He was born in the Cola kingdom and lived in the 5th Century AD. Under the patronage of this ruler, Buddhadatta wrote many books. Among his best known Pali writings are the Vinaya-Vinicchaya, the Uttara-Vinicchaya and the Jinalankara-Kavya. Among the commentaries written by him are the Madhurattha-Vilasini and the Abhidhammavatara. In the Abhidhammaratara he gives a glowing account at Kaveripattinum, Uragapuram, Bhutamangalam and Kanchipuram and the Mahavihara at Anuradapura, (Sri Lanka). While he was at Sri Lanka, he composed many Buddhist works such as Uttara-viniccaya Ruparupa Vibhaga Jinalankara etc. Buddhaghosha, contemporary of Buddhadatta also composed many Buddhist commentaries.
Buddhaghosha is a Tamil monk, who made a remarkable contribution to Buddhism in Sri Lanka. He stayed and studied Buddhist precepts at Mahavihara in Anuradhapura. The Visuddhimagga was the first work of Buddhaghosha which was written while he was in Sri Lanka.
After Buddhaghosha, the important Theravada monk from the Tamil country was Dhammapala. Dhammapala lived in the Mahavihara at Anuradhapura. He composed Paramathadipani which was a commentary on Buddhaghosha’s work on Khuddaka Nikaya and Paramathamanjusa, which was a commentary on Buddhaghosha’s Visuddhimagga. A close study of the three Buddhist monks viz Buddhadatta, Buddhaghosha and Dhammapala shows that Tamil Buddhists were closely associated with the Sri Lankan Buddhists around the 5th century AD.
The author of Nettipakarana is another Dhammapala who was a resident of a monastery in Nagapattinam, another important Buddhist centre from ancient times. One more example is the Cola monk Kassapa, in his Pali work, Vimatti-Vinodani, this Tamil monk provides interesting information about the rise of heretical views in the Cola Sangha and the consequent purification that took place. There are so many other Tamil monks who are attributed to the Pali works some of them were resident at Mayura-rupa-pattana (Mylapore, Madras) along with Buddhagosha.
The Tamil Buddhist monks used Pali languages in preference to Tamil in their writings. This is because the Buddha spoke in Magadi Prakrit (Pali). Sanskrit is the sacred language of the Hindus, and similarly Pali is considered as the sacred language of the Buddhists.
On the other hand, the well known Tamil Buddhist epics found were Manimekalai, Silappadhikaram, Valaiyapathi, Kundalakesi, and Jivaka Cintamani. The lost Tamil Buddhist works include the grammar Virasoliyam, the Abhidhamma work Siddhantattokai, the panegyric Tiruppadigam, and the biography Bimbisara Kada. Manimekalai, a purely Buddhist work of the 3rd Sangam period in Tamil literature is the most supreme and famous among the Buddhist work done in Tamil. It is a work expounding the doctrines and propagating the values of Buddhism.It also talks about the Tamil Buddhists in the island/Nagadipa even though Manimekalai and Silappathikaram were considered as Tamil literary work and not as historical work.
The Chinese traveller, Tsuan Tsang, wrote that there were around 300 Sri Lankan monks in the monastery at the Southern sector of Kanchipuram. Ancient Kanchipuram, the capital of Tondaimandalam, ruled by the Tamil Pallava dynasty, an offshoot of Chola rulers was the major seat of Tamil learning and is also known as the city of thousand temples. Even Thirukkural, the ancient Tamil couplets/aphorisms celebrated by Tamils is based on Buddhist principals. Although Buddhism has become almost extinct from Tamil Nadu, it has contributed a great deal to the enrichment of Tamil culture and has exerted a significant influence, both directly and indirectly, on the Tamil religious and spiritual consciousness, present as well as past.
It is also believed that Bodhidharma who lived during the 5th/6th century AD was a Tamil Buddhist monk and the son of a Pallava king from Kanchipuram. Bodhidharma had travelled from South India by sea to the Far East for the purpose of spreading the Mahayana doctrine, transmitting his knowledge of Buddhism and martial arts. According to Chinese legend, he also began the physical training of the Shaolin monks that led to the creation of Shaolinquan.
Tamil Buddhism in Sri Lanka
As Buddhism was one of the dominant religions in both Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka, naturally there were very close relations between the two regions. The monks from Sri Lanka, too, went across to the Tamil kingdom and stayed in the monasteries. As Dr. Leslie Gunawardana says, `The co-operation between the Buddhist Sangha of South India and Sri Lanka produced important results which are evident in the Pali works of this period`. He also says that the Tamil Buddhist monks were more orthodox than their counterparts in Sri Lanka.
In Sri Lanka, the Tamil Buddhists who followed Theravada Buddhism shared the common places of worship with the Sinhalese, but there were also Tamil Buddhists who were following the Mahayana Buddhism and they had their own Mahayana temples. There are still some Tamil Mahayana Buddhist establishments (Palli) in the east and possibly in the Jaffna peninsula. The best known was Velgam Vehera (see details below), which was renamed Rajaraja-perumpalli after the Cola emperor. Another was the Vikkirama-calamekan-perumpalli.
It is a historical fact that among the many ancient Buddhist shrines in Sri Lanka Velgam Vehera which was renamed Rajaraja-perumpalli, also called Natanar Kovil by the present day Tamils stands out as the only known example of a `Tamil Vihare or Buddhist Palli` or as the late Dr. Senerath Paranavithana described it in his book `Glimpses of Ceylon`s Past` as an `Ancient Buddhist shrine of the Tamil people`. Some of the Tamil inscriptions found at the site record donations to this shrine and are dated in the reigns of the Chola Kings, Rajaraja and Rajendradeva. It was his view that the date of the original foundation of the vihare was no doubt considerably earlier than the reign of King Bhatika Tissa II.
The situation in Tamil Nadu, however, began to change towards the beginning of the 7th Century AD when the rise of Vaishnavism and Saivism posed a serious challenge to Buddhism and Jainism. There was a significant increase in Hindu/Brahmanical influence and soon the worship of Siva and Visnu began to gain prominence. The Buddhist and Jaina institutions in Tamil Nadu came under attack when they began to lose popular support and the patronage from the rulers.
Even though today there are no Tamil Buddhists in Sri Lanka, the majority of the early Tamils of Sri Lanka (before the 10th century Chola invasion) were Buddhists. The ancient Buddhist remains in the North and East of Sri Lanka are the remnants left by the Tamil Buddhists and not anybody else. They are part of the heritage of Sri Lankan Tamils. Only the Buddhist temples, statues and structures build in the recent past and present in the North and East can be considered as Sinhala-Buddhist.
Buddhism and Sinhala were two different things in the past
Why does the Sri Lankans believe that the Buddhist sites in Sri Lanka belong only to the Sinhalese (Sinhala heritage) and not to the Tamils? Why are the Sri Lankans ignorant about the early Tamil Buddhists of Sri Lanka and Tamil Nadu? Why do the Sri Lankans think, in Sri Lanka a Buddhist should be a Sinhalese and a Hindu should be a Tamil even though the Sinhalese worship most of the Hindu/Brahmanical Gods
Unfortunately, the majority of Sri Lankans are ignorant of their ancient past. They think of the ancient past in today’s context.
Today, the Buddhism in Sri Lanka is monopolized by the Sinhalese and they call it Sinhala-Buddhism. The fusion of Sinhala and Buddhism into Sinhala-Buddhism took place only in the early 20th century by revivalists such as Anagarika Dharmapala. Unfortunately today the Sri Lankan Tamils also believe that Buddhism is a Sinhala religion and is alien to them, but this was not the case in the early past. Unlike today, the Ancient Buddhist/Hindu civilization in Sri Lanka and the ancient Pali/Sanskrit place names has nothing to do with the ethnicity.In otherwords, the Ancient Buddhist/Hindu heritage and the ancient Pali/Sanskrit place names in the North and East of Sri Lanka has nothing to do with Sinhala.
The Tamil politicians, scholars, intellects and the Tamil media should take every effort to educate the Sri Lankan Tamils to be aware and to understand that Buddhism was a part of Tamil civilization in the ancient past. The Tamil politicians should engage in preserving the `Tamil heritage’ of North & East of Sri Lanka. The most important part of the Tamil Heritage of North & East is its Buddhist and Hindu civilization.
Please google and read “
Tamil Brahmi Inscription Belonging to 2200 years ago,
Discovered by German Archaeological Team in Southern Sri
Lanka “
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Nagadipa guy / April 4, 2016
Paul,
“The Naga people (Tamil: Nākar) appear until the third century BCE as a distinct group in the early Sri Lankan chronicles as well as early Tamil literary works.”
The Naga people first appeared in the Mahabaratha as well as in the North Indian Hindu scriptures as the people of North India. It also appeared in the Buddhist scriptures and the Buddhist Jathaka stories (all North Indian). The people in South India and Sri Lanka have simply copied the name Naga/Nakar from the North Indian texts and not only named their places such as Nagarkovil, Nagadeepa, etc. but also named people such as Nagalingam, Nagasena, Cora Naga, etc. Modern day historians are unable to find any evidence to prove that the Naga people (tribe) really existed in South India Sri Lanka region.
“In the third century BCE they started to assimilate to Tamil language and culture, and lost their separate identity.”
The Sinhalese claim that the Naga people (tribe) started to assimilate to Sinhala language and culture, and lost their separate identity whereas the Tamils also claim the same but both Sinhalese and Tamils have no evidence to prove it. Thousands of ancient Brahmi stone inscriptions were found in Sri Lanka, most of them written in the Prakrit language but none of them say anything about a Naga tribe/people. Modern day historians believe that such a tribe never existed in Sri Lanka.
“The Naga people were snake-worshipers.”
The North Indian Nagas may have been snake-worshipers.
“The word Naga was sometimes written in early inscriptions as Nāya, as in Nāganika which can be identified in the Nanaghat inscription of 150 BCE.”
Naya is the Sinhala/Pali word for cobra. There are plenty of cobras in Sri Lanka but not snake people.
“Evidence of their presence can be traced by place names like the Nagapattinam, Nagarkovil, in Tamil Nadu Jaffna was called Naga Nadu with the famous Naga Hindu temple Nagapoosani Amman in Nainatheevu or Nagadeepa in Sinhalese.”
These place names with a Naga prefix does not prove that Naga people lived in these areas. These are just names adopted from the Hindu/Buddhist scriptures.
“H. Parker, a British historian and author of “Ancient Ceylon” (1909) considered the Naga to be an offshoot of the Nairs of Kerala.”
He only assumed that the Nairs of Kerala may have come from the Naga tribe but his assumption is today considered wrong.
“The Oliyar, Parathavar, Maravar and Eyinar who are widespread across South India and North-East Sri Lanka are all Naga tribes The Ezhavas are a community in South Kerala and are related to the people of the Jaffna peninsula.] Ezhavar and Nairs share the same heritage and practice the serpent culture.[4] The palaeolithic excavations in Jaffna and Kerala region show similarities.”
Just because some people worship the snakes or have a serpent culture they do not become a Naga tribe. All what you have written here is mythology, it is assumed by someone that above communities belong to the Naga tribe. So far nobody has done any research to prove it. It is only a belief without any evidence.
“Elu the semi Tamil indigenous Dravidian dialect that was spoken in the island.”
This very clearly shows your ignorance. From where did you get all these wrong information?
Please learn your basics. Elu is not an ancient language and it is not a spoken language either. It appeared only after the 9th century AD, very much after Sinhala. Elu is a Sinhala poetic language used only for poems. Sinhala originated from Prakrit and Pali and Elu is a poetic language that originated from Sinhala, only after the 9th century AD. You have to analyze the Elu texts Elu Sendas Lakuna, Elu Bodhi Vamsa, Elu Akaradiya, Elu Hathvanagalu Vansaya, Elu Umanda, Elu Daladavansa Kavya, Elu Silowa, Elu Silo Sathakaya, etc. to see if any Dravidian semi Tamil words are also found in any of these Elu texts.
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Jai_Bolo / April 6, 2016
Nagadipa guy,
SC/ST buddhist
When a North Indian tells you do not have our blood group go look elsewhere what have you got to say??
Ambassador Nonis was informed by north indian BBC/CNN Biz news that you are not from there.
Perplexed, he shut up. What have you got to say??
When your perceived mother says you are not her child are you going force her to accept??
With a minority of Tamils in SL (10%) you can force it down their (only low caste) throat but how can you convince us north Indians is it by lending ass to Chinese and sending submarines to attack?
Come clear and tell us because final excavations at Lumbini and Taxila confirm there is nothing of Gautama but tree worshipers.
(maha Bodhi playing on Wikipedia etc is known so Pali is a non-classical language while only Tamil and Sanskrit are accepted as a standalone classical like Greek.)
Why your basic are words Portuguese not pali/Sanskrit? At the Same time in North India (1497 the Mughals brought in Sharia law and Persian/Urudu> Hindi (Sanskrit Urdu)
Isn’t your story like lion has sex with human and gives birth- bestiality breed??
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / April 3, 2016
Cool story, bro :D
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Burning Issue / April 4, 2016
Here you go again Sarma; man you are very funny :D
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Non tribal Tamil / April 3, 2016
Yawn. No one cares what you dream up to suit your agenda. This is the type of crap which is fed to innocent young Tamils which led to their death by the thousands. Evolve and get out of this primitive, supremacist, tribal, exclusionary mind set.
Learn to live with others.
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Paul / April 5, 2016
Why don’t you tell that to your self and your fellow Sinhalese to come out of your tribal mindset and learn to live with us. Every time there is an opportunity arises to grant the just rights for the island’s indigenous Tamils and self rule federalism in their historical areas. Sinhalese extremists and hardliners come up with these feeble excuses to deny the Tamils their rights. If you had learnt to respect others and live with them instead of quoting your Mahavamasa fairy tale to justify discrimination and genocide of the Tamils, this would not have risen. Have the audacity to commit genocide and war crimes and them try to lecture to the victims to forget respect and learn to live.
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ravi perera / April 4, 2016
Paul Real sivan
“You are noting but a racist piece of extremist Sinhalese sh– who is now trying to rewrite history. Where do you get your information from ? The Lankaweb? Spur the bible of Sinhalese misinformation that is largely run and supported by recently Sinhalised largely low caste Indian Tamil imports.”
You are nothing but a real typical selfish tamil shit. You mentioned about sinhalised low caste Indian Tamil imports. Wether you are a Brahmin or sakkiliya, Tamil is a tamil. There is nothing lower than that you selfish bugger.
“Tamils have an vary ancient history in Sri Lanka. and the north and east of the island have been Tamil and never Sinhalese from ancient times.”
Your wild imagination. If so collect all that information and take it up with the UN. You will have your wonderful eelam on a platter and will not have to die like flies on the banks of Nathikadal.
“Tamils don’t belong but the Sinhalese who are largely descended from indigenous and Indian Tamil immigrants belong to use your own words what a lot of bull. Most of you Sinhalese are purely descended from South Indian immigrant who only came to this island a few centuries ago.”
There are no indegenious Tamils in Sri Lanka. Your homeland is Tamil Nadu. The sinhala people who are suppose to be of South Indian back ground are less than 9% of the sinhala people. That too being naturalized over a long period of time by mixing with the sinhala people. It is very likely the equivalence of the pure south Indian people would be far less than 9%. Also these South Indians are suppose to be of kerala origin, which is what goes to explain there rabid anti Tamil stance.
“he census of Ceylon conducted in 1881 also indicates that the two Tamil provinces were inhabited almost exclusively by Tamils in the late nineteenth century (Census of Ceylon, 1881). The Sinhalese population constituted only 1.8% of the total population of the two Tamil provinces in 1881; Sinhalese accounted for only 0.51% of the total population of the Northern Province, and 4.2% of the Eastern Province.”
What are these provinces you are talking about you Thalaya. Large chunk of the sparsely populated areas of the Kandyan kingdom was annexed with realtively thickly populated thala areas to form the Eastern province. Tamil majority in the East then did not mean the tamnmas were every where,. It is the way the province was demarcated that gave rise to the illusion.
“Let me also mention that in the recorded history of Sri Lanka and the epigraphic evidence found till today, nowhere it mentioned that there was a mass influx/settlement of Tamils from South India to the North & East of Sri Lanka or there was a mass exodus of Sinhalese from the North and East to the South”
There were repeated invasions of Sri lanka by the Tamils over the years. As result peple fled not only the north of the country but other areas like the present day North Central etc. Tamil being a cvommunity wth higher numbers, it is very likely they came over the years to settle down. It does not have to be mass exodus, could have been a trickling one…. Like the kallathonias.
This is very common in European countries, where a minority community of a particular country lives right next to a country where their own community is majority. This is the case with Tamil Nadu and Jaffna.
You seem to be quoting a lot from mahavansa. Most of you thalays blame us for the mahavansa mentality but quote mahavansa when it suits you.
Mahavansa is full of surangana stories just like all other historical /religious texts.
“The Naga kings Devanampiya Tissa and Dutugemunu were NEVER known as Sinhala (there is no evidence what so ever) and due to ignorance the present day Sinhalese are talking about a non-existent ancient Sinhala heritage.”
You mention the fact that Dutt and devanam piyatissa were not sinhala. They would have been more closer to Hela tribes than the present day sinhala. Wether you call them sinhala or hela or by something else it is the same people at a different stage of evolution. Most races evolve over time , it is just a few backward groups that do not evolve. You know what I mean….
IF YOU ARE TO GET THE WHOLE OF SRTI LANKA OR AT LEAST PART OF IT
1) PROVE TO THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY THAT SINHALAYAS CAME AFTER THE TAMILS. this is ging to be tough one, since There are no sinhalese anywhere (Other than the recent migrants)other than Sri Lanka. So all indications are that the sinhala race was born in Sri lanka,most lilkely evolving from the ancient tribes(Hela).
Where as Tamil Nadu has a Tamil population which is 5 times that of the Sri Lankan population (Though Land size is only twice that of ours). This shows that Tamils are better fuckers than the Sinhalese.
Under these circumstances how come your population is only 12% and still say that you were in Sri Lanka before the sinhalese. Does not sound logical does it. Logic and common sense says that you are a migrant group
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / April 5, 2016
“You are nothing but a real typical selfish tamil shit”
You’re giving him too much credit – Paul the name stealing wannabe Brahmin (LOL) is just another typical We Thamizh dullard copying and pasting reams of drivel posted by other We Thamizh dullards :D
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bandito / April 5, 2016
Wow Cool Bro!!! Coool.
Two SC/ST both kalu sinhala speaking Demalas but
o0ne kalu. Degenerated lansi with a barrel up the rear going poof.
BASTA.
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Prasad / April 5, 2016
“Under these circumstances how come your population is only 12% and still say that you were in Sri Lanka before the sinhalese. Does not sound logical does it. Logic and common sense says that you are a migrant group”
How did the original indigenous natives of Sri Lanka (Tamils & Veddas) became a minority while those who came in a boat from Sinhapura (Vijaya’s people) became a majority?
The Sinhalese became a majority only after tens of thousands of South Indian low caste menial workers who came to grow/peel cinnamon, plant coconut and tap toddy later assimilated with the Sinhala population in the South. For example, ravi perera is a Sinhala speaking demela.
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ravi perera / April 6, 2016
“How did the original indigenous natives of Sri Lanka (Tamils & Veddas) became a minority while those who came in a boat from Sinhapura (Vijaya’s people) became a majority?”
Tamils are not original natives. You are a migrant community.
All over the world the aboriginal races got decimated.The Tamils are better fuckers than the sinhalese, te population in Tamil Nadu proves it. Sinhapura story is Surangana katha to show the North Indian connetion. Sinhalese are a race evolved in Sri Lanka from the original Hela tribes.
“The Sinhalese became a majority only after tens of thousands of South Indian low caste menial workers who came to grow/peel cinnamon, plant coconut and tap toddy later assimilated with the Sinhala population in the South. For example, ravi perera is a Sinhala speaking demela”
Generally there is a perception that the sinhala community along the coast are of soth Indian origin. The sinhala people along the coast make up less than 9% of the sinhala population(Kerala origin). There goes that theory.
By the way thanks for letting me know about my past.
Are you a refugee in Toronto or a toilet cleaner in Toronto ?Still must be better than living in a refugee camp in Sri Lanka
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Prasad / April 3, 2016
ravi Perera
“How can the Sri Lankan Tamils have more rights than the scotts. This is absolute bull. Scotland is the homeland of the Scottish people. Your equivalence is Tamil Nadu, which is home to 70 million Tamils and the place that gave birth to the Tamil Culture.”
Right from ancient history, Tamils are from both India and Sri Lanka. Tamil nation existed and still exists in South India (today known as Tamil Nadu after the British named it) and North-East Sri Lanka (Tamil Eelam). There was nothing called Tamil Nadu until the British created it. What existed as the Tamil countries in South India and Sri Lanka were known as Chola/Sola Nadu, Pandya/Pandu Nadu, Chera/Sera Nadu and Eela Nadu/Eelam Mandalam.
In the 9th century AD, under Rajaraja Chola and his son Rajendra Chola, Sri Lanka became one of the nine provinces of the Chola Empire and was called Eelam Mandalam. This Chola rule was the longest and the most far-reaching in terms of surface area by the Tamil power. Sri Lanka remained a South Indian (Chola) colony under the rule of Rajaraja Chola and his son Rajendra Chola. After the Chola rule of Anuradhapura and then Polonawara (a kingdom created by Rajendra Chola) kingdoms ended, the people who spoke Sinhala and/or practiced Buddhism moved to the South and created their Kingdoms in Kandy, Kotte, and many other places in the South. On the other hand, the people who spoke Tamil and/or practiced Hinduism moved to the North & East and created their Kingdom in Jaffna. A separate Jaffna kingdom (1215-1624 CE) was established for the Tamils. This is the very first time in the history of Sri Lanka, separate Sinhala and Tamil Kingdoms in the South and North began, only after the Anuradapura/Polonurawa kingdoms were abandoned. (Anuradapura/Polonurawa were never mentioned or known as Sinhala or Tamil kingdoms). Unfortunately, the Jaffna kingdom came under Portuguese domination in 1624 after the last Tamil king of Jaffna Cankli Kumaran was defeated in the battle. This was how the Tamils lost their sovereignty, independence and their traditional homeland.
However, the Sri Lankan Tamils had and still have a clearly defined (Tamil speaking) territory, their historic habitat in the North & East of Sri Lanka as their traditional homeland (Tamil Eelam) where they lived and defended for several centuries. The Tamils are the sole occupants (natives) of both N&E Sri Lanka (Tamil Eelam) and South India (Tamil Nadu) when the colonials left. Just like the Arab nation has several countries in the middle-east and North Africa, the Tamil Nation had several countries (Chola Nadu, Pandya Nadu, Chera Nadu and Eela Nadu) in India and Sri Lanka and still has two regions/states in South Asia (Tamil Eelam and Tamil Nadu). Tamil Nadu belongs (Homeland) to the Tamils of India and Tamil Eelam belongs (Homeland) to the Tamils of Sri Lanka. There was a natural bridge known as Rama Setu that existed during the ancient period from Tamil Nadu to Tamil Eelam (now submerged by the rising sea but still visible in the satellite pictures taken by NASA).
The Chief Justice in the British Government, Sir Alexander Johnston wrote on 01.07.1827 to the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland as follows:
‘I think it may safely be concluded both from them and all the different histories which I have in my possession, that the race of people who inhabited the whole of the Northern and Eastern Provinces of the Island of Ceylon, at the period of their greatest agricultural prosperity spoke the same language, used the same written character, and had the same origin, religion, castes, laws and manners, as the race of people who at the same period inhabited the southern peninsula of India.’
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / April 3, 2016
Prasad,
Thanks. You have indeed put together a tenable story of our history. However, it is important to accept where we are now and what we are now and find solutions consonant with this century and what is bound to emerge beyond it. We cannot move forward if we are constantly looking back into an yet quite dark past. We are while discovering yet unknown parts of our history, are also in the midst of manufacturing an implausible history, as a diversionary tactic.
Dr.RN
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Paul-Real Siva Sankaran Sharma / April 5, 2016
Do not waste your time with him. He and the person called Naga or NagaDipa(Sic) are all Sinhalese hardliners and extremist will never accept the real history, despite knowing the truth in their hearts but will keep on arguing with you bringing out dubious evidences obtained from various Sinhalese extremists sites. They are thoroughly brainwashed and will fight tooth and nail and bring all sorts of lame excuses to deny the Tamils their just rights
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ravi perera / April 7, 2016
“However, the Sri Lankan Tamils had and still have a clearly defined (Tamil speaking) territory, their historic habitat in the North & East of Sri Lanka as their traditional homeland (Tamil Eelam) where they lived and defended for several centuries. The Tamils are the sole occupants (natives) of both N&E Sri Lanka (Tamil Eelam) and South India (Tamil Nadu) when the colonials left.”
Sri Lankan Tammas territory did not extend to East. Even today tamls live only in a narrow stretch of land (10 miles from the Coast) in the East. That too is not contiguous. In between Tamil villages are the Muslim villages (Muslims are bitterly opposed to linking East with the North)
Whilst it is acknowledged that Jaffna was, for about 300-400 years out of our history of 2500 years, a seat of political power ,it nature and question such as whether it was a “kingdom” or not and the extent of its power is still disputed among historians. However even those historians who support the view that the seat of power was, both a kingdom and Tamil Kingdom are at once in agreeing that it was a kingdom of fluctuating fortunes, the territory of which was largely confined to the Jaffna Peninsula and never extended to the Eastern Province.
“The Chief Justice in the British Government, Sir Alexander Johnston wrote on 01.07.1827 to the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland as follows:
‘I think it may safely be concluded both from them and all the different histories which I have in my possession, that the race of people who inhabited the whole of the Northern and Eastern Provinces of the Island of Ceylon, at the period of their greatest agricultural prosperity spoke the same language, used the same written character, and had the same origin, religion, castes, laws and manners, as the race of people who at the same period inhabited the southern peninsula of India.’”
Northern and Eastern provinces were demarcated in 1873. So, this man may well have been referring to the Coastal belt of East.
Had he been to the central hills he would have said the central hills also form part of the tamil territory.
According to Robert Knox, the Tamil territory stated from the present day Walwe River. If this statement is true, King Dutu also would have been a Tamil.I think there are many Tamils in this forum who belive that Dutu was a tamma,, must be Robert Knox influence.
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Prasad / April 3, 2016
ravi Perera
“The Jaffna Kingdom which was in existence for about 300 yrs never extended to East.”
The existence of Jaffna Kingdom for 400 years included the East. Eastern province was also a part of the Jaffna Kingdom until it fell and later, on the request of the Tamils, the King of Kandy brought Dutch to fight the Portuguese. The Dutch captured the East from the Portuguese and handed over to the Kandyan Kingdom.
The arrival of the Portuguese in the 16th century and the fall of Jaffna Kingdom led to turbulence in the Northern and Eastern districts of Ceylon. The Tamil Hindus of North and East came under severe atrocities, they were attacking the Hindu temples and forcefully converting to catholism. The only kingdom left (existed) in Sri Lanka (both Kotte and Jaffna kingdoms fell into the hands of the Portuguese) was the Kandyan kingdom and therefore many of the old Tamil Hindu principalities of North and East sought protection from the Kandyan king. (The Kandyan king being a south Indian by origin, the Tamil Hindus had no problems being under the (Buddhist) Kandyan king rather than the Christian Portuguese).
During the 17th century, the king of Kandy invited the Dutch to fight the Portuguese and take over the areas they have captured. The Dutch re-captured some parts of the Eastern and Northern Province (including Trincomalee and Batticaloa) from the Portuguese and handed it over to the king of Kandy. (That was the period when Robert Knox landed in Trincomalee and was taken as a prisoner to Kandy because Jaffna kingdom was no more).
However, the Kandyan rule of East does not deny the Tamil presence in those areas. Some parts of the Eastern and Northern Province coming under the Kandyan Kingdom made no difference to the Tamil position in regard to the inhabitancy. The Tamils would have had and yet have no objection what so ever to the benevolent and accommodating rule of the kandyan kings whether they were from the Kalinga or Nayakkar dynasty (both South Indian), and see no inconsistency in the Tamil claim to those areas even under the Kandyan rule.
The Tamils were a clear cut majority in that region until post-independent governments colonized Sinhalese in the region. Even though most of the Eastern Province came under the umbrella of the Kandyan Kingdom, the census of Ceylon conducted in 1881 indicates that the two Tamil provinces (North & East) were inhabited almost exclusively by Tamils in the late nineteenth century (Census of Ceylon, 1881). The Sinhalese population constituted only 1.8% of the total population of the two Tamil provinces in 1881; Sinhalese accounted for only 0.51% of the total population of the Northern Province, and 4.2% of the Eastern Province. Even in the census of 1920 only 4 percent of the population of the Eastern Province was Sinhalese. It is only in the past fifty years that there has been a substantial influx of Sinhalese settlements through state intervention.
Nobody has ever come across a Sinhala person or family that claimed a Northern or Eastern Province habitatncy or origin. If you speak to the Sinhalese living in those areas today, each one of them will say that their father, grandfather or great grandfather is from the South (settled in North & East by the government after independence) where as there are any number of Tamils who hail from North and East and proudly proclaim their habitancy. Sinhalese Buddhist nationalism endeavours to suppress the historical evidence, but facts are stubborn. The Tamil Hindu historical claims to the East will not be forfeited regardless of the attempts by the Sinhala governments to transform the ethnic character of that land.
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ravi perera / April 7, 2016
Prasad thanbi,
“Nobody has ever come across a Sinhala person or family that claimed a Northern or Eastern Province habitatncy or origin. If you speak to the Sinhalese living in those areas today, each one of them will say that their father, grandfather or great grandfather is from the South (settled in North & East by the government after independence)”
The sinhala people who have come from the south are far greater. The sinhala villages in the east especially in Trincomalee was almost extinct by the time the settlemet schemes were begun. The few villages were parsely populated. Due to centuries and centuries of Tamma invasions and also by the europeans these areas became part of the jungle. This is still true of areas like Yala.Present day Yala was part of a once thriving ruhunu kingdom.
After independence succesive sinhala governments settled our people in purana sinhala lands. This is exactly what is happening in South Africa (40% of the area in South Africa was once white dominated, but the blacks are slowly moving in now). There are whites in South Africa who think that South Africa belongs to them , just like most Tammas think of Sri Lanka.
Pls read the following article which I had produced many times before.
Whilst it is acknowledged that Jaffna was, for about 300-400 years out of our history of 2500 years, a seat of political power ,it nature and question such as whether it was a “kingdom” or not and the extent of its power is still disputed among historians. However even those historians who support the view that the seat of power was, both a kingdom and Tamil Kingdom are at once in agreeing that it was a kingdom of fluctuating fortunes, the territory of which was largely confined to the Jaffna Peninsula and never extended to the Eastern Province.
As Professor K M De Silva said
A Tamil kingdom did exist from the the 13th century to the early part of the 17th , but except during a brief heyday of its power it seldom controlled anything more than the Jaffna Peninsula., and some adjacent regions on the coast and some parts of the interior.
Set against a history of 2500 yrs the independent existent of this kingdom covered a very brief period, and even during this period its status and influence varied dramatically; at times a very powerful kingdom; at others a satellite of expanding Dravidians States across the Palk straight, and at times subjugated by the Kotte Kingdom, and generally acknowledging its suzerainty.
There is little or no evidence to support the claim made in the TULF Vaddukodai resolution that there was either an unbroken national consciousness or a continuing tradition of independent statehood.
Professor CR De Silva said ;
A separate kingdom in Jaffna existed in Sri Lanka from about the 13th century to 1619. During Certain periods the kingdom was so powerful that for a brief period it captured power in the western seaboard almost up to the environs of Colombo.
But for most parts of of the 400 yrs it was a rather week kingdom confined to the environs of the Jaffna Peninsula. It never wielded power in the present day Eastern Province.
Nor was it always independent, for it often acknowledged the sovereignty of the dominant power in south India and was once overwhelmed by a Sinhala army from the south.
But most significantly the Tamil kings of North did not think of them as separate rulers of Tamil Kingdom. They like all the other Sinhala kings aimed ultimately at being the Monarc of all Sri Lanka.
The first ground on which a secessionist claims the Northern and Eastern provinces as being the traditional homeland is demonstrably false.
The second and the only other ground on which this claim is made is that there is in the Northern and Eastern Provinces, the boundaries of which were drawn by the British purely for their administrative purposes .
There is clearly no justification for once racial group claiming proprietary , exclusive rights over the others within these two boundaries set artificially by the British merely because there are more members of that group over the others. If there is any validity in such contention it would follow with even greater force from the same principle, since there is and always has been within the natural borders of Sri Lanka, am overwhelming preponderance of Sinhalese, the entirety of Sri Lanka is the homeland of the Sinhalese.
Whilst Tamils are an overwhelming majority in the North the same can not be said about the Eastern Province. Muslims and the Sinhalese together constitute about 64% of the eastern Province.
Although the Sinhalese are about 25 % of Eastern Province, the Tamils and the Muslim settlements are largely confined to the coastal areas (Particulary in Ampara and Trincomalee) which are relatively thickly populated compared to the sparsely populated Sinhalese villages which are spread over a huge area.
Thus of the 22 assistant government agents divisions in the Trinco and Ampara districts the Sinhalese constitute the overwhelming majority in in 10 namely, Padavi Siripura,Gomarankadawela,Kantalai, Moraweva and Seruvila in the Trincomalee district and wevgam pattu ,panama pattu and bintennepattu in Ampara district whilst the Tamils constitute majority only in Trincomalee town and Tirikkovil in Amara .
Thus the Sinhalese constitute the overwhelming majority in about 60% of Trincomalee district and 78% of Ampara district.
This spartial distribution of the population was not a recent phenomenon caused by so called colonisation but one existed long before any Sinhalese was settled in the North and the East with state assistance is borne out by the findings of Professor G H Peries professor of Geography at Peradeniya university in his paper entitled an appraisal of the concept of the traditional homeland in Sri Lanka.
Following is part of what he had to say.
“For the issues with which the present study is concerned, the feature of the crucial relevance borne out by our maps is that in the Eastern Province as a whole in 1921,all the Tamil settlements are confined to a coastal strip barely extending 10 miles from the coast o the interior. The Sinhala settlements on the other hand though comparatively few were scattered over extensive areas of the interior, covering the entirety of the admistrative divisions of Bintenna,Udapalatha,Yati palatha and meda plaltha of wewgam pattu and panama pattuin. In the northern part of the the batticalo and Trincomalee districs were mostly uninhabited /scattered Sinhala settlement.
This must be taken in the context of the fact that the Sinhalese names of numerous abandoned village tanks marked in our source maps in the inhabited tracts bear testimony to earlier process of de population. Our maps show further that the only non Sinhalese population clusters that were located in 1921 even a few miles to the interior of the seaboard were those associated with the irrigation works restored in the preceding decades. We can also observe that the Tamil settlements nearest to the claimed southern boundary of Kumbukkan oya was a coastal town of mixed population about 35 miles north of that boundary”
The pattern of settlement distribution assumes significance from several points of view. In the first place considered in the light of our earlier observations on the trends of demographic change in the Preceding centuries the pattern as it prevailed in 1921 represents what may be regarded as the culmination of a long drawn out historical process featured, on the one hand, by territorial advances of the Tamil population and on the other , retreat and recession of the Sinhalese population.
This , in turn implies that the process of “Tamilization’ in the eastern lowlands of Sri lanka had not penetrated significantly into the interior even at its most extensive territorial spread.
The second point of significance arise from the fact that, often the “Tamil Homeland” is being defined with reference to the modern administrative units. Given the spatial patterns of ethnicity borne out bu our maps the demand by one ethnic group for exclusive proprietary rights over Provinces and districts encompass extensive tracts of territory which it had never occupied (and much of it, in every sense is the homeland of the other ethnic groups) appears in its true light as one which lacks a rational basis.
In a functional sense sparsely settled interior of the eastern lowlands of Sri lanka was not a hinterland of the settlement clusters of the littoral. Both the interior as well as the littoral were very largely rural.
Hence, a core periphery concept is of no relevance to the issue. More specifically, there is no empirical basis for a theoretical assertion that because there was numerical preponderance of the Tamils in the coastal areas , hinterland, areas, regardless of the traditional rights of the other ethnic groups, should form a traditional hinterland of the Tamil areas.
The fact that the eastern littoral itself is not ethnically homogeneous (Well known but purposely over looked) is also illustrated by our maps with a fair degree of superiority.
The littoral is as much the traditional homeland of the Muslims as it is of the Tamils. And in many areas , the Muslims constitute the majority which has no common cause with the Tamils and in fact is bitterly opposed to the EAST being MERGED with the NORTH
Unfortunately for the Tamil secessionists there is not only a Total absence of any shred of evidence any part of the East having being governed by a Tamil King, but does not even have a numerical preponderance which could provide them with the remotest justification that East is part of the Traditional Tamil Homeland.
There is nothing these secessionist could do about the absence of a claim founded on history but to continue to LIE about it, there was nothing they could do about the absence of a numerical preponderance of Tamils in the east except to UNILATERLY DENY THE SEPERATE ETHNIC IDENTITY OF THE TAMIL SPEAKING MUSLIMS and equally UNILATERLAY ACQUIRE THEM AS PART OF THE FICTITIOUS TRADITIONAL TAMIL HOMELAND, just to give them the NUMERICAL SUPERIORITY; while at the same time alleging falsely that they had been made a minority in their homeland by the COLONISATION of the East with the Sinhalese state assistance
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Prasad / April 3, 2016
ravi Perera
“You sound very cocky even after the nandikadal routing. Keep it up mate that’s the way.”
If you think that the Tamil freedom struggle for self-determination ended in 2009 at Nandikaddal, then you are worse than the worst fools in this world. Just like the Palestine-Jew conflict continues with the Western World supporting the Jews, the Sinhala-Tamil conflict will also continue until they achieve their goal.
“Wether Sinhala people abandon the Mahavansa mindset or not, the fact remains that Sri Lanka is the country that gave birth to the sinhala culture and Sinhalese will always be identified with Sri Lanka.”
Very true but that does not mean that Sri Lanka is a Sinhala country. Sri Lankan Tamils had occupied and still occupy a separate historic territory in Sri Lanka where Sinhala culture or language does not exist.
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ravi perera / April 5, 2016
Prasad,
“If you think that the Tamil freedom struggle for self-determination ended in 2009 at Nandikaddal, then you are worse than the worst fools in this world. “
It won’t end and it never will. In Sinhala we have a saying
alu yata gini. This is a reference to the Tamil issue.
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Native Vedda / April 3, 2016
ravi perera the Sinhala speaking Demela
“Certainly yes”
Certainly not. Scotland is not yet a federal state of UK.
In your hasty typing you forgets to check your facts (not that you are renowned for it).
Here is an article which appeared in The Guardian a year ago sums up the dilemma the UK is facing right now:
There is one solution to our disunited politics: a Federal Kingdom of Britain
Timothy Garton Ash
Saturday 9 May 2015
Save for later
So now we need a Federal Kingdom of Britain. Otherwise this most dramatic British election result could mark the beginning of the end of Britain, and of Britain in the EU.
With leftwing Scottish nationalists sweeping the board north of Hadrian’s wall while rightwing Eurosceptic Conservatives form the British government only because they triumphed in England, the two largest parts of our increasingly disunited United Kingdom, England and Scotland, are doomed to discord.
Meanwhile, millions of Green, Liberal Democrat and Ukip voters wake up to find that because of Britain’s unfair election system their own individual votes counted for nothing.
In the next few days, what happens at Westminster may look like business as usual: an old Etonian Tory prime minister will remain in 10 Downing Street, form a new government and write a speech for the Queen to deliver to the assembled Lords and Commons at the end of the month. Take a black-and-white photograph and it could be 1951, or 1895. But in truth, everything is changed – changed utterly.
For the next couple of years, the most urgent issues will be the economy, the unequal impact of public spending cuts and the referendum membership of the EU, which will happen before the end of 2017. But over the life of this parliament we should really start rethinking the whole shape of this country.
However unsympathetic a new Cameron government may be to such ideas, what we need is a Federal Kingdom of Britain. The quiet revolution in Scotland demands a new settlement, in which each constituent part of the kingdom has clearly defined powers.
A new Scottish parliament, to be elected next year, may actually be less dominated by the Scottish National party (SNP) and more open to that. (The Scots’ seemingly self-contradictory votes in the independence referendum and this election suggest that they want to have their oatcake and eat it. They may yet succeed.)
Wales will demand more of what Scotland is having. Northern Ireland is its own place anyway, intertwined with the rest of Ireland in ways that only a baggy Britain inside a flexible European Union make possible.
And all around me, here in the drizzly heart of England, I hear quiet voices murmuring ‘“For we are the people of England/that never have spoken yet.” Ukip has been, among other things, a dog-whistle voice of English nationalism.
Meanwhile, the Conservative party and press have awoken the sleeping English bulldog by making their election cry: “Stop the SNP!” To whom, exactly, powers are federally devolved in England (regions? counties? cities?) is a conundrum, but one that must now be addressed.
The most radical and coherent proposal comes from a Conservative grandee, the Marquess of Salisbury, a descendant of that earlier and even grander Salisbury who was the David Cameron of 1895. The House of Lords should be abolished, he self-sacrificingly suggests, and turned into an upper house (a senate perhaps?) for the whole federal kingdom. The House of Commons should become the English parliament, so that each nation of our quadri-national state has its own democratic assembly.
Since every new assembly Britain acquires has a more proportional voting system, so would be the one for the senate. That would go some way to meet the discontents of the millions of effectively disenfranchised individual voters – including, let it be said, those of Ukip. Eventually, even the English parliament would be squeezed towards a somewhat more representative electoral system.
All this is inseparable from the matter of Europe. After all, the essential British argument over the EU is about who does what, at what level. That’s what people will be looking at in the probably paltry results of Cameron’s self-styled renegotiation with Brussels.
But another word for such multilayered arrangements is, precisely, federalism. In fact, Cameron’s first government did an exhaustive exercise looking at all the different powers exercised by the EU – and then buried the results because they suggested the balance was really not at all bad for Britain. So here too the federal kingdom is what this transformed country needs.
All this may sound a bit dry and academic in the light of the most dramatic election result I can remember. But actually it’s not. This drama is so big because it puts not just the economic and social wellbeing of a society but the very shape of the country at stake: externally, in Europe, and internally, between England and Scotland.
So let’s think big in response. It will take years to get there. But on Monday, when we have caught up on lost sleep, let’s start designing the foundations for the new state we need: the Federal Kingdom of Britain.
http://www.theguardian.com/
commentisfree/2015/may/09/
federal-kingdom-britain-
eu-referendum-scotland-snp
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jansee / April 3, 2016
ravi perera:
“Wether Sinhala people abandon the Mahavansa mindset or not, the fact remains that Sri Lanka is the country that gave birth to the sinhala culture and Sinhalese will always be identified with Sri Lanka”
Who is cocky here now? It is this cocky attitude in greedy grab attitude that has led to the country bleeding. You getting cocky with the Tamils will serve no purpose. You have to get cocky with the UN/UNHRC. Of course, Mahinda and his cocky brother Gotabaya just did that and thought that the Sinhalese will keep them in power forever. Sad isn’t it that they bit the dust.
The worse nightmare is yet to come. The clueless and listless Sinhalese are at each others throats. The economy is performing “great”. Do you really know how to run a country? All the cream have been stolen by your uncle Mahinda and his family and hidden away in foreign vaults and leaving you pathetic people with only the diapers. It looks very much true that eventually you may not even have the diapers. Take care and cheers.
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ravi perera / April 7, 2016
jansee kolluwo,
“Who is cocky here now? It is this cocky attitude in greedy grab attitude that has led to the country bleeding. You getting cocky with the Tamils will serve no purpose. You have to get cocky with the UN/UNHRC”
Inspite of overwhelming evidence that war crimes took place, it seems like Tamils have fucked up the war crime drama too.
“Of course, Mahinda and his cocky brother Gotabaya just did that and thought that the Sinhalese will keep them in power forever. Sad isn’t it that they bit the dust”
Mahinda and Gota did what colourful characters like Lalith and Gamini could not do. So the sinhala people showed some gratitude inspite of the robbing. But they got too cocky just like the Tamils.
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Burning Issue / April 4, 2016
ravi perdra,
“Your equivalence is Tamil Nadu..”
This kind of bull talk will get you no where! Denying the Tamil heritage in Sri Lanka is a weakness on your part. Once the Sinhala Buddhists asserted themselves with their own religion and language, they have compelled the Tamil people to be conscious about their own historical areas. The Sinhala Buddhists did not stop there; they fabricated the history and claiming the entire SL for themselves.
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Kettikaran / April 7, 2016
Ravi Perera
The language and culture of the Eastern Province has always been Tamil – until the Muslims came along a few hundred years ago.
Can you and other Sinhala bigots deny this?
Tamil Kings paid tribute to Sinhala/Kandyan Kings and vice versa over the centuries. The last Royalty of Kandy, till about the turn of the 19th century, was Tamil. Teach that to the Sinhala students and people most of whom are ignorant of this.
Don’t be too sure Muslims will throw their lot with the Sinhalese “when it comes to the crunch” A sample of the crunch was seen at Aluthgama recently. Muslims are no fools and know what is in store for them in the long run – nationally.
If the Sinhala side wants peace and economic development to follow, the only way is a merged Tamil majority North-East Province or something akin to it. Even former Sarath Silva – the slimy politicised ex-CJ has accepted this – albeit in different words. That is the core substance of the Indo-Lanka Agreement. If the Sinhalese cannot control the JVP and the Weerawansa-Gammanpila-Gunda Amerasekera gangs plus half a dozen Mahanayakas this is a Sinhala problem. The divided Sinhalese must solve it among themselves. Remember a similar (or worse racio-religious) cabal obstructed the Language Parity issue (from 1952) and the Citizenship issue for over 40 years. Finally Sinhala extremism had to eat crow.
But I am afraid before all that the country is fastly becoming a basket case thanks to plundering, selfish and half-educated Sinhala politicians from 1956.
Kettikaran
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ravi perera / April 7, 2016
jansee kolluwo,
“Who is cocky here now? It is this cocky attitude in greedy grab attitude that has led to the country bleeding. You getting cocky with the Tamils will serve no purpose. You have to get cocky with the UN/UNHRC”
Inspite of overwhelming evidence that war crimes took place, it seems like Tamils have fucked up the war crime drama too.
“Of course, Mahinda and his cocky brother Gotabaya just did that and thought that the Sinhalese will keep them in power forever. Sad isn’t it that they bit the dust”
Mahinda and Gota did what colourful characters like Lalith and Gamini could not do. So the sinhala people showed some gratitude inspite of the robbing. But they got too cocky just like the Tamils.
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ravi perera / April 7, 2016
Kettikatam,
“The language and culture of the Eastern Province has always been Tamil – until the Muslims came along a few hundred years ago.”
There was no Eastern Province until 1873 you clown. These provinces were created by the British. East was created by annexing relatively largely populated Tamil Coastal areas with sparsely populated Sinhalese villages. According to you Muslims came only a few centuries ago. This is how the Sinhalese talk of Tamils.
“amil Kings paid tribute to Sinhala/Kandyan Kings and vice versa over the centuries. The last Royalty of Kandy, till about the turn of the 19th century, was Tamil. Teach that to the Sinhala students and people most of whom are ignorant of this.”
From What I hear the Kandyan kings were of Telugu origin. This was very common in Europe and in the present day India. The current Royal family in UK is suppose to be having more German blood than English blood, but that does not mean the Royal family of UK is German.
“Don’t be too sure Muslims will throw their lot with the Sinhalese “when it comes to the crunch” A sample of the crunch was seen at Aluthgama recently. Muslims are no fools and know what is in store for them in the long run – nationally.”
Muslims have to choose between Tamils and Sinhalese. They will look at the experiences they have with the two communities and take a decision. Sample of that was seen recently with a statment by Hakeem on the North East merger and where the Muslims stand.
“If the Sinhala side wants peace and economic development to follow, the only way is a merged Tamil majority North-East Province or something akin to it. Even former Sarath Silva – the slimy politicised ex-CJ has accepted this – albeit in different words.”
Oh my god, we can not have peace and prosperity without North East merger. Start another Nathikadal, we can pack off another million tammas as refugees in Toronto.
About Sarath Silva,after giving the verdict himself he turned against his own verdict due to a personale grudge with MR.
Sarath silva is not a major player in the sinhala community. Your quoting Sarath is like the sinhala people quoting Douglas devnada or Karuna
“Remember a similar (or worse racio-religious) cabal obstructed the Language Parity issue (from 1952) and the Citizenship issue for over 40 years. Finally Sinhala extremism had to eat crow.’
Overall The tamil have lost far more than the sinahla people
Remember About 1 million Tamils have gone and also more and more estate Tamils are now shedding their Tamil identity and assimilating.
I think even the cow would not be left for you to eat
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Kettikaran / April 8, 2016
Ravi Perera,
What you call Sri Lanka itself is largely a British invention.
Before that it was different Kingdoms in the South, the North and the East. The last Kandyan King had present AP and TN origins.
He took wives from Madurai. His remains were buried in Vellore en route Bangalore from Chennai. Your denying he was not Tamil follows the usual Sinhala denial of many historical facts of their Indian origin.
“More and more estate Tamils are now shedding their Tamil identity and assimilating” You are referring to the single digit Dalit Estate Tamils who recently joined Islam – largely for money.
Your belief “1 million Tammas in Toronto” needs correction. Get your facts right. The figure is more under the 300,000.
If you are one of those who believe, like Gotabya R, Sarath Fonseka and others if force is used and conditions created for making life impossible for Tamils they will leave is only right to a limited extent. These usually come at a very high price.
Kettikaran
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CountryFirst / April 3, 2016
Per the Constitution, any REFERENDUM has to be carried out throughout the entire country…NOT JUST THE NORTH AND EAST. Besides, THERE ARE TAMILS RESIDENT IN ALL THE PROVINCES, don’t they count? And will all the Businesses in the South leave to go to Eelam?.
The SL Constitution ever since Independence has always declared that Sri Lanka is a Unitary country in which the Provinces/Districts were decentralized. It is the 13th Amendment that modified this situation by “DEVOLVING POWER” to the Provinces. The regional power structure in the Indian Constitution which has been described as “Quasi-Federal” was foisted on Sri Lanka.
Sri Lanka’s political leaders still insist that Sri Lanka is a Unitary state, and that it will remain so.
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Native Vedda / April 3, 2016
CountryFarce
“Per the Constitution, any REFERENDUM has to be carried out throughout the entire country…NOT JUST THE NORTH AND EAST. Besides, THERE ARE TAMILS RESIDENT IN ALL THE PROVINCES, don’t they count?”
Could you cite the relevant chapter and verse in the constitution. If you are in doubt please consult Rear Admiral Sarath Weerasekara, Namal, Wimal and GL who can give you good legal advice, with gusto.
” “Quasi-Federal” was foisted on Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka’s political leaders still insist that Sri Lanka is a Unitary state, and that it will remain so.”
Don’t let foreigners enforce right solutions when the racists Sinhala/Buddhists themselves should have done the right thing in the first place.
Since they sit on their brain (like Sarath and other bigots, for example you) they found it difficult to think straight, see clearly or hear them loud.
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CountryFirst / April 3, 2016
Obviously you have not studied the Constitution while you fling insults at others who have done so…
Read Article 4 of the Constitution which clearly states..
“The Franchise shall be excercizeable by……..at every Referendum by every citizen….”
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CountryFirst / April 3, 2016
Native “Vedda”:
Obviously you have not studied the Constitution while you fling insults at others who have done so…
Read Article 4 of the Constitution which clearly states..
“The Franchise shall be exerciseable by……..at every Referendum by every citizen….”
Read English? Note the words “EVERY Referendum by EVERY citizen who has….qualified”
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CountryFirst / April 3, 2016
Editor: Please replace previous comment with:
To: Native “Vedda”:
Obviously you have not studied the Constitution while you fling insults at others who have done so…
Read Article 4 of the Constitution which clearly states..
“The Franchise shall be exerciseable by……..at every Referendum by every citizen….”
Read English? Note the words “EVERY Referendum by EVERY citizen who has….qualified”
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CountryFirst / April 3, 2016
Reply To: Native “Vedda”:
Obviously you have not studied the Constitution while you fling insults at others who have done so…
Read Article 4 of the Constitution which clearly states..
“The Franchise shall be exerciseable by……..at every Referendum by every citizen….”
Read English? Note the words “EVERY Referendum by EVERY citizen who has….qualified”
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punchiniame / April 3, 2016
Did you mean that if Sri Lankans resident abroad, should also go
to Jaffna to vote? This is not envisaged in the new proposals?
There is not point in holding a referendum on this matter among
the Sinhala dominated Provinces – is there? Be reasonable pl.
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John / April 3, 2016
Keep manufacturing history to suit agenda.
Do you think the rest of the world are fools to fall for these despicable lies.
Do you Eelam this will solve the problems of ordinary Tamils in Sr Lanka.
It will only be for the politicians and the terrorist loving megalomaniacs in the diaspora with their pipe dreams. Most of them will never live here permanently but will lord over innocent Tamils when they come on holidays or remote control the people to create more trouble.
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Vibhushana / April 3, 2016
The people of Jaffna Kingdom were predominantly Sinhala. How can we be certain?
A Franciscan monk chronicled Jaffna during Portuguese period. One of the books is here.
http://noolaham.net/project/46/4518/4518.pdf
Jaffna was just like Kanda Udarata (Kandy) where the leader was an Indian. His subjects, his front line chiefs were all Sinhala.
Sankilli’s standard was a lion, his wife was Sinhala and appear to be a devout Buddhist. There are other things of interest. For example Jaffna had at one stage was overwhelmed by a Tsunami.
The reasons why Kandy got a Telegu king is clear. In order to continue Royal lineage a prince from India had to be imported.
Why Kotte bequeathed Jaffna to a Pandyan when the entire population was Sinhala is not very clear. It was perhaps a strategy to keep further incursions at bay after the experience of Kalinga Magha.
Until 1700s the entire North East was predominantly Sinhala. Towards the tail end of the Dutch and beginning of English period the entire region is colonised by Tamils.
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Prasad / April 3, 2016
Vibhushana
Please read the books written by Prof. Tikiri Abeysinghe, Senior Professor of History at the University of Colombo. Prof. Tikiri Abeysinghe is one of the very few who has done extensive research on Portuguese archives and Goa archives by living in those countries.
In his book ‘Jaffna under the Portuguese’ Prof. Tikiri Abeysinghe, who was Professor of Modern History in the University of Colombo till 1985, notes that in the period 1624-1626, the Franciscans alone converted 52,000 Jaffna Tamil Hindus into Catholics.
Prof. Tikiri Abeysinghe also says that the Franciscan monk Fernāo de Queiros who chronicled Jaffna during Portuguese period calls the Tamil speaking people of Jaffna (Jaffnese) as ‘Chingalaz’.
Let me quote one paragraph to show that the ‘Chingalaz’ in Jaffna spoke Tamil.
“Perhaps because the Catholic clergy in Jaffna had no income from cultivation to supplement their allowances, they resorted to levying contributions on their flocks on a scale unparalleled in the south. The first complaints against the practice are heard in the early 1630s and by 1645 these had reached such proportions that the viceroy Dom Phelippe Mascarenhas had to appoint a commission headed by Francisco de Seixas de Cabreira, the captain major, to inquire into these complaints. About 40 witnesses, both Jaffnese as well as Portuguese, all of them in responsible positions, appeared before the commission and their testimony read like a litany of grievances against the Jaffna clergy………….The original record of the inquiry, running into over 125 pages with the signatures of the Tamil deponents in their own language, is well preserved and is a remarkable document, unique in its kind. Reading through the document, one is driven to the conclusion that while the revenue authorities, relying on the low-boiling point of the Jaffna man, went on increasing the taxes that he had to pay, the clergy too did likewise.”
-Chapter 6, Jaffna under the Portuguese-
Coming back to the Franciscan monk Fernāo de Queiros who chronicled Jaffna during Portuguese, he was a person who took the Brahmi script of the Ceylon inscriptions to be Greek (Temporal and Spiritual conquest of Ceylon, book 1, page60). However, when he writes ‘These terms (written) in the Portuguese and the Chingala languages, were signed and authenticated’, he is not utilizing his linguistic deciphering skills; but rather describing the event (the pact) in ‘our language-their language’ terms, and their language had been set to Chingala by default, because that was Queiros’ perception.
Ignorant and partly illiterate (half learned) people like Vibhushana who only rely on some Sinhala racist websites to gather their knowledge will only write some rubbish. I do not think he would have even heard of any such scholars and intellects who have done extensive research on the subject.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / April 4, 2016
Vibhushana,
While reading through the early pages of the above reference, I came across the following words,
“The Nayres of Malavar, the Paravaz of the coast of the fishery, the Chingalas of Ceylon, the Belalas of Jaffnapatao, those of nagapatoa snd Paleacate. those of Sumatra and of Malaca, those of Java,Macassar, and Maluco, would drink their blood, and they are either going about qith arms in their hands or are ever yearning for their Deliverence, and there is not single nation that does not desire to oust them from India—” (page Xiii).
He is refering to the attitude of the peoples of the places he has listed towards the Portugues.
What does he refer to the coast of the fishery? Batticaloa! Were the Parawaz the Tamils of Batticaloa?
Chingalas of Celon, of course are the Sinhalese of Ceylon.
Belalas of Jaffnapatoa, are of course the Vellahlas of Jaffna.
What do these separate identifications mean?
Do he mean that the Portuguese encountered and rules over three distinct people and places in laka. Did the Ceylon that is referred to contain mainly Sinhalese at that time? Was Jaffnapatoa as distinct entity not conidered part of Ceylon? Was the ‘Coat of fishery’ occupied by the Parawaz another area that was not part of what was considered Ceylon?
The book makes interestingreading though rather cumbersome. I will return with some interesting information from this 1600s book once I finish reading it.
Thanks for the reference. I reccomend that you read it too.
Dr.RN
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Vibhushana / April 4, 2016
Dr. RN,
Well, “Ceilo or Ceylon” was the reference to the entire island. This early map by Portuguese will confirm that.
https://i1.wp.com/www.loc.gov/rr/asian/guide/images/0046.jpg
So consequently, “Chingalas of Ceylon” are people of the entire island including Jaffna.
Jaffna was under Sankilli. Sankilli’s father was Pandyan prince presumably a higher caste Khayatra.
“Bellala” is a Sudra caste, don’t forget. So perhaps they were laborers of the king. who were in Jaffna at the time.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / April 5, 2016
Vibhushana,’
It is you who cited Quiro’s account of history and provided the link to his works. His work to the extent I have read indicates that Jaffnapatnam was distinct from Ceylon and was populated by Vellahlas in the 1600s.
Dr,RN
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Vibhushana / April 5, 2016
Dr. RN,
He does mention “Bellala of Jaffnapatnam”. In the same vein he also mentions “Moors of Colombo”.
If Quiro documented London, he would say “Frenchman of London”. They are minorities living in a host nation.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / April 5, 2016
Vibhushana,
I remember from what I had read a long time back that Colombo was essentially a trading post for spices dominated by Muslims, when the Portuguese arrived there. They were right in referring to the ‘Moors of Colombo”. Donot forget the Portuguese came to the East to get the monopoly of the slice trade then dominated by the Moors.
Dr.RN
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Prasad / April 5, 2016
The same Franciscan priest Fernāo de Queiros who chronicled ‘Jaffna during Portuguese’ and called the Tamil speaking people of Jaffna as ‘Chingalaz’ (he set everything to Chingala by default) took the Brahmi script of the Prakrit inscriptions of Ceylon to be Greek (refer Temporal and Spiritual conquest of Ceylon, book 1, page60). He also calls the Jaffna King as Xaga Raja Xagara Pandara. Queiros uses the word ‘Chingalaz’ as a substitute for Jaffnese (people of Jaffna).
How can anybody depend on such a foreigner for our history? We, unlike Fernāo de Queiros are insiders and don’t have to be content with his ‘Chingala’ default setting.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / April 5, 2016
Vibhushana,
On further reading of Queiros’s book I found this interesting paragraph with reference to Batticaloa:
–giving in return only a beatilha and a tupeti which is considered another kind of thicker and shorter cloth wherewith they clothe themselves; and this payment alone they give to-day as tribute to the King of Candea. This country has better Xaya than that of Rayagoa, of which we shall speak later, much wax, ivory, rice, fish, fowl and butter because of the many cattle they rear. They eat no kind of meat whatever; hence it also happens that it is very cheap, for in religion they are different from the Chingalas and are more like those of Jaffanapatao, though their principle God is not Rama, as of the latter, but Perumal, to whom in the village of Palugao they dedicated a Pagoda with his most shameful figure.—“(Book 1, page 19, first para)
Another indiction that they were Tamils and Hindus, whopaid a nominal tribute to the King of Kandy.
I suggest that Ravi Perera too read this interesting and revealing book.
Dr.RN
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Vibhushana / April 6, 2016
Dr. RN,
So the idea of this exercise to learn every part of the island was under a Sinhala throne. Its the home of the Sinhala civilisation.
The others are minorities including Bellala, Moors and Bagadaz etc. They found themselves in the island owing to various circumstances.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / April 6, 2016
Your recent references/ links or the ‘ACCEPTED’ history of this country do not support your contention. I am a TAMIL AND I AM OF THIS COUNTRY, AND THIS COUNTRY BELONGS TO ME TOO. It also belongs to every other citizen of this country . Don’t try to steal ownership with untenable stories !
I am reading Queiros’s book referring to the known history of this island at the time Portuguese colonial rule commenced and which you cited to support your claims. I have already quoted relevant sections from what I have read so far and they do not support your contention. I will next quote Quieros;s observations on the caste system and caste names prevalent at that time. His story is also provides a deeper glimpse into our history.’
I think you have inadvertently helped us better understand OUR history from the vantage of the 1600’s and if WE WERE THERE THEN AND WELL ESTABLISHED, THIS COUNTRY BELONGS TO ALL OF US,
Let us discussing now how we can efficiently, effectively and fairly share our sovereignty in this island as equal citizens of Sri Lanka.
Dr.RN
Dr.RN
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Vibhushana / April 6, 2016
Dr. RN,
Your country certainly. It belongs to all non-Sinhala ethnicity who are born there. Although its not the home of Tamil culture i.e. origin as a civilisation. There is a difference.
There are many Tamils born in England, France etc. They belong there too as full citizens.
Although the homeland of their culture will remain Tamil Nadu.
Some examples.
Homeland of Malyalee is Kerala
Homeland of Gujarati is Gujarat
Homeland of Tamil is Tamil Nadu
Homeland of English is England
Homeland of Scotish is Scotland etc
Homeland of Sinhala is Ceylon -> Ceielo -> Sinhale
Its very simple.
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Dr.Rajasingham Barendran / April 6, 2016
Vibhushana,
Because,
A large proportion of present day Sinhalese- Karawa, Duruwa, Salagams, etc. , have chosen to abandon their Tamilnet identity and associated culture to become what they are today, the Tamils need not do it. Ask Sinhalese of these castes to show their family photographs with their great grrsnd parents. You will learn much from these! How do you know Tamil culture was derived from South India and not vice-versa. It is a known and accepted fact that the Tamils of the north and east speak better, more pure and classical Tamil than their counterparts in South India. There was a time we looked down about them and called them ‘Vadakathayar’ and ostracized anyone marrying them. Further, we are ready to learn from anyone, without becoming them! To many Tamils in India, Ravana is a great Saivaite and Carnatic musician!
Come on, stop firing blank shots repeatedly!
Dr.RN
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Burning Issue / April 6, 2016
DR RN,
I suspect that Vibhushana is not one person! The writing styles varies and there appears to be a group of people under this alias. This is why same old nonsenses are repeated over and over again. They also infiltrate websites and create new ones to suit their agenda! Such people have successfully constrained many Sinhala historians and made them alter their works. Those who did not obey refrained from publishing further. Prof. Jetadeva Uyangoda is one such person!
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Native Vedda / April 7, 2016
Vibhushana
Today you are hearing voices in your head from Kerala, Gujrat, Tamil Nadu, England, Scotland, ….
It appears that you haven’t heard voices from other part of the world. Homeland of Arabs is Saudi Arabia. However the Arabs are living in over 22 countries. Do you suggest that the other Arabs should be deported to Saudi or that Saudi borders should be enlarge to cover other Arabic speaking people?
Bengali have two homeland.
Germans have at least three.
Punjabis have two.
Homeland of Sinhala is Sinhapura … > Lata land ……> Venga … Bangladesh …….. or Bihar.
Homeland of Sinhale is the proud land of Africa where Simba, Shenzi, Scar, Ed, Banzai, Rafiki, Mufasa, Sarabi, Zazu, Timon, Pumbaa, Nala and Sarafina live.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / April 6, 2016
Vibhushana,
Tamil Kings ruled from Anuradhpura, Polonnaruwa and Kandy. They were from South India. Does this confer ownership of swathes of this land To the South Indians? AnTamil King from Jaffna was also paid tribute by Sinhala Kings subordinate to him for a few years. in fact the sacred tooth relic was in the custody of the Jaffna King for a while (Read M.D Raghavan on the Cultural History of the Tamils), until a Pandyan King brokered a settlement. Does this make the Tamils owners of the whole of Lanks? The Portuguese, Dutch and English Kings/Queens have ruled us. Does this make the present citizens of those counties owners of this land?
Kings, Queens and governments are temporary custodians of land and rule over a people during their tenure. The people from whom they come, do not become owners of the lands they have conquered and occupied. If you think otherwise, you are advocating a position that there is a need for another war for the liberation of Tamils and their lands! I and most Tamils do not want such a war, but do you?
Parakramabahu-1, who is said to have ruled this whole island was married to SivakamasundarI- a Tamil. Their progeny would have been half-Tamil and inherited the whole country. There were many such ruling families in Sri Lankan history, including Vijaya, who took a Pandyan Tamil princess as his second wife. His sons ruled us. According to the theory you are propounding, as Half Tamil-Half ‘Sinhala’ and full Tamil families that have ruled us, this land belongs to both Sinhalese and Tamils equally. Further, a large number of Sinhalese are of South Indian Tamil origin. Thus, in genetic terms, it is Tamils who have the greater right to claim ownership of this island. I know it will be hard for you to swallow what I have said.
There is no alternative now to accepting what evolution of thinking and concepts of sovereignty in our times dictate – that every citizen in this country owns his/her. share of this country and its sovereignty – and make political arrangements to reflect these.
I think the current government understands this.
Dr.RN
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / April 6, 2016
Vibhushana,
This is what Queiros had to say about the Muslims:
” Already when the Portuguese entered Ceylon, there were Moors in Colombo and in other parts of the island, but afterwards they increased in great numbers on occasion of commerce and attracted by the healthiness of the land, and they not only lived in the ports, but also in the interior. The Chingalas of Colombo call them Da-Kinis because the first were from Deccan, but generally they call them Iona, which means circumcised, from the Ionecolavaddanuwa, means to circimcise. In this Hindustan, te Heathens call them Turks as in Italy, the Portuguese generally Moors, for the the first whom they knew from Mauritania. In its place we shall describe the harm they did in Ceylon” ( Chapter 1, Page 21)
On the Sinhalese he says,
“As for the character of the Chingalas, they are generally proud, vain and lazy, the first on account of the presumption of their celestial descent, especially those of blood Royal; the second because of the antiquity of their Kingdom and nation, and the liberty in which they are brought up;the third on account of the position, climate and riches of the land, which being so fertile: both as regards what springs from it and what is is entrusted to it, they have no care for agriculture, nor do they care for to acquire riches, beig cotent with little, not because they are not covetous, but becaue they are presumptious and with the three Larins (which make a Xerafim) they think themselves rich and aspire to great things” ( Larin a coin)
” We must, however, admire someof their moral customs, which may well be an example to us, for they have such horror of theft (Probably because of some great punishment which had preceeded) that in the doors of their houses they have no locks’. ( Book 1, pages 21-23)
Dr.RN
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Prasad / April 5, 2016
Senior Professor of History at the University of Colombo Prof. Tikiri Abeysinghe says that the Franciscan monk Fernāo de Queiros who chronicled Jaffna during Portuguese period calls the Tamil speaking people of Jaffna (Jaffnese) as ‘Chingalaz’.
Please read the book ‘Jaffna under the Portuguese’ by Prof. Tikiri Abeysinghe.
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Dragos / April 5, 2016
“Portuguese will confirm that.”
SC/ST maha bodhi thatti How is your Marijuna /skunk plantation at Australia??
Portugese kaffir cannot confirm anything but that they were ruled by Moros for 800 and were sexslaves. even today when I ask a portugese he feels ashamed
your SC/ST ??
It was dutch businessman from spanish netherlands who drew the route even for the british french and Italians to travel.
portugese survived in asia after 1661 because they shared the loot of bombay with the english- or they would have been annihilated by protestant dutch.
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Paul=Real Siva Sankaran Sarma / April 6, 2016
The name Ceylon has a complicated history going back to antiquity. Deriving from the Old-Tamil word Cherentivu which means literary Island of Cheras.the Island was trough the word Cerentivu known by the Roman as Serendivis and by the Arabs as Serendip. From this, the Greeks called the island Sielen Diva. From the word Sielen, many European forms were derived: the Latin Selan, Portuguese Ceilão, Spanish Ceilán, French Selon, Dutch Zeilan, Ceilan and Seylon, and of course the English Ceylon. Ptolemy called the Island Salike, and the inhabitants Salai
Nothing to do with Sinhalese. Even the word Sinhala has nothing to do with a lion. It is a Pali corruption of another ancient Tamil name for the island. Chingkalam. Meaning the land of red or copper. Chikappu= Red or Chembu/Cheppu= copper in Tamil. Alam in Tamil means a tract of land or coastal land. Like Cheralam/Keralam Puttalam. Most of the island’s soil is reddish or reddish brown. Just like the meaning of Chingkalam. The ancient Dravidian/Naga semi Tamil Elu speaking population were called Chingkallavar. This name had nothing to with the modern Sinhalese language or people, they just ursurped this ancient Tamil name for themselves just like the now Slavic speaking Macedonians took the ancient Greek name Macedonia to describe themselves.
Today, almost everybody seems to have taken it for granted that the word Sinhala stands for a particular ethnicity in the island and for the language they speak.
An irrational mythology fabricated at a later time when the original etymology was lost, that Sinhala means descendants of a lion (Siṅha) and thus means the ‘lion race’ has pervaded the minds and hearts of the people for centuries.
Most of the ethno-national identities of South Asia have in fact originated primarily from geographical identities. Such identities later stood for who ever inhabited those lands and eventually stood for the languages evolved in those lands. (Identities of classical languages don’t come under this pattern)
For examples note terms like Paagnchaala /Panjab (land in between five rivers), Karu-naadu / Karnāṭakā / Kannada (country of black tract of land); Malayaa’lam / Malai-a’lam (hilly tract of land) etc.
The Sinhala identity is not an exception and there is no unambiguous evidence that the word either stood for ethnicity or language in the early usages of the word.
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Burning Issue / April 4, 2016
Vibhushana the imbecile,
No matter how many stories you concoct, you will not succeed! You can erase materials, put pressure on Sinhala Scholars, infiltrate websites, create websites and write falsehood and finally write complete lies on public forums, but nothing will work. You cannot erase the Sri Lankan Tamil heritage and it there to stay. It is about time you come to your senses and be a good Buddhist.
You have been told many times about the real history; you run away with your tail between your legs. Then you appear again uttering the same old nonsenses! Do you have a life? Do you have children? What do you teach them? Isn’t compulsive lying a terrible thing?
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Ceielo / April 6, 2016
The readers take Vibhushana’s repeated ‘Puss vedi’ just for a fart because everybody know that he cannot argue back. He simply repeats the same old comments and then run away and hide if someone argue back or comes up with a fake website to prove his point. Poor fellow always gets caught with his pants down below the knees whenever someone confronts his ‘Puss vedi’.
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / April 6, 2016
Cool story, bro :D
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Burning Issue / April 6, 2016
Sarma,
Man you are one hell of a comedian :D you keep having me me on the floor in stitches! :D
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Peace Lover / April 3, 2016
Aunty Usha,please let the Tamils of Sri Lanka live their lives peacefully in Sri lanka,they/we dont need the diaspora to meddle things and stir trouble,please enjoy your life in Canada and dont trouble us
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Paul / April 3, 2016
It is not aunty Usha or the Eelam Tamil diaspora that is not letting the Tamils in Eelam( north east of the island) to live peacefully but genocidal/racist Sinhalese devils like you and racist Sinhalese government largely supported by a racist Sinhalese population and an evil racist occupying Sinhalese army that are not allowing them to live in peace and dignity in their own lands. Oh by the way the Sinhalese in the north and east should not be allowed to vote for any referendum concerning the north and east. A people who only came to these two provinces illegally and settled by various Sri Lankan governments to deliberately change the demography of the Tamil majority north and east in order to sabotage and prevent the granting of just Tamil rights and a federal solution in the Tamil areas, should not be allowed to vote. The vast majority of them were settled in the North and East only from the late 1970s. Theses people have no right to determine on the fate of the ancient Eelam Tamil nation and their lands and rights. They can live there but have no right to determine on the fate of the Tamils.
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Peace Lover / April 4, 2016
Paul,your sadly sadly mistaken if you think that I’m a Sinhalese ,if you have read my comments before in other topics you will know
as for your talk about Sinhalese racists,please the LTTE was equally bad,I lived through the 80’s and early 90’s in Jaffna and know what the LTTE did to suppress the people
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Aravindan / April 5, 2016
There is absolutely no doubt that you are one of the biggest racists judging from this and other comments posted. Have a look in the mirror and judge for yourself before you go mad with hatred.Your mind is warped with all consuming hatred. Dont ever think you are speaking for majority peace loving Tamils. If there are more Tamils like you Sri Lanka and the world is doomed.
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Peace Lover / April 6, 2016
Please can you give referance to my so called racism Aranindan?
Please tell me if I call LTTE as a terror outfit does it make me a racist?
If a Sinhala man calls Rajapaksa a corrupt despot does it make him a traitor?
Go search your brains for the answer pal -;)
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Aravindan / April 6, 2016
You are mistaken Peace lover. I called Paul a racist not you.
Maybe to comment ended in the wrong place.
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Peace Lover / April 7, 2016
Ooops sorry Aravindan,yes your comment came in the wrong reply !
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Pacs / April 3, 2016
It was Mr Sivasithamparam announced at the Hartley College HSc union meeting the a separate state for the Tamils in Sri Lanka is a better solution. You Call it Point Pedro announcement.That gave the rationale for the children to work towards it. I am not sure it was before or after Mt Navaratnam of Kayts.
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Lone Wolf / April 3, 2016
Usha,
“We need that one strong, loud, forceful united Tamil voice – now!”
I only read the end of your article but it appears that we agree on something.
It is good that we have elected TNA as our representative and not voted for the others who wish to split our community.
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Naga / April 3, 2016
In the first place, the concept in the Vaddukoddai Resolution that there existed a Tamil state in the North East Sri Lanka before foreign invaders arrived as stated in the following lines of the Resolution “…their history of independent existence as a separate state over a distinct territory over several centuries till they were conquered by the armed might of the European invaders” is factually incorrect.
History records the existence of the Jaffna Kingdom but that kingdom was brought to an end in 1617 by the Portuguese when they defeated King Sangili.
Jaffna Kingdom never extended to the East and not even to the Vanni.
Eastern Sri Lanka, in particular, was never a part of Jaffna Kingdom and the local chieftains in the East at that time owed their allegiance to the Kandy King not to the Jaffna King. Not just that. Eastern Tamils have a culture that is distinct from the culture of the Jaffna Tamils proving again that Jaffna and its culture never had any commonality or impact on the Eastern Tamils.
Usha or TGTE or for that matter any Eelamist cannot prove the two main characteristics of statehood as defined by the Montivedio Convention of 1933, namely, a defined territory and a population owing allegiance to the government of that state in relation to the Tamils of Eastern Sri Lanka vis a vis the last Jaffna Kingdom, the existence on which Kingdom they base their claim for statehood for the whole of North East Sri Lanka.
Another fallacy of the argument is that the Vaddukoddai Resolution won an overwhelming mandate at the 1977 General Elections because of the fact that TULF won majority of the seats in the North East. A vote at a General Election cannot be by any yardstick counted as a mandate for one particular question or issue. People vote at general election to elect their own representatives and decisions of individuals to vote for a particular party or candidate in a particular electorate may be based on many factors and multitude of issues. A general election is not a referendum on a single issue or question. You cannot turn a general election into a referendum. Had the Vaddukodai Resolution been officially put to the people by the Commissioner of Elections at that time as a referendum to get the approval of the people with a yes or no vote then one can concede that there was a mandate. No such thing happened. Instead, the 1977 General Election was an election held in the whole of Sri Lanka to elect representatives to the Sri Lankan Parliament to function for the next five years.Even though TULF won a majority of seats in North East Sri Lanka that does not mean that people voted purely for the Vaddukoddai Resolution even though TULF used it as the main plank of its propaganda at the 1977 general election.
Usha and her cohorts in TGTE are still living in a dream world far removed from the realities in North East Sri Lanka and living far way in western countries leading comfortable lives. Their antics are only hurting the Tamils in North East Sri Lanka still trying to recover from the destruction caused by the war. Usha and TGTE are only strengthening the hands of the Sinhala extremists in Sri Lanka. They should understand that Tamil National Alliance, the present day elected representatives of the North East Tamils, has officially declared that it has given up the call for a separate Eelam state long time ago. TNA is in fact functioning in Parliament as a partner of the Ranil-Srisena government though its leader Sampanthan is officially designated as the Leader of the Opposition. TNA even officially backed Brigadier Fonseka, the Commander of the Army that defeated and destroyed the LTTE which fought for a separate Tamil Eelam state, at the Presidential Election held after LTTE was defeated.
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Native Vedda / April 3, 2016
Naga
What is your point if you have one.
Please refer to Ibn Battuta’s travel diary, where you might find information on Tamil Kingdom and Hindu temples in the South which might surprise you.
Name one king who ruled the entire island uninterrupted under one umbrella or chakravartin. This island was ruled by numerous so called kings, in fact they were not kings but headmen of larger villages.
The Kandyan kingdom barley lasted 300 or so years and ruled by imported Nayakas. Would you want me to believe that Sinhalese never lived in Kandy between 1815 and 1948 (133 years) because it was ruled by the Britsh?
Anuradhapura was ruled by Cholas for 170 years.
Ellala ruled Anuradhapura for 45 years. Did all the Sinhala speaking people disappeared from the area when Ellala or Chola reigned?
How do you define a kingdom, a people, a habitat, sovereignty, ancestral land, homeland, ….. ?
Can you categorically say Tamils didn’t live in other parts of the island or for that matter the Sinhalese were the sole inhabitant of the entire/part of the island?
Irrespective of what TGTE and VR 1976 state, people have inalienable right to rule themselves. It is called democracy, under which certain concepts are considered sacred, self determination, devolution, safety, security, dignity, land, habitat, secular central state, environment, …… . how best to unleash potential of future generation, …… quality of life, …. It would be unproductive to argue and counter argue the existence of kings, kingdoms, borders, ………..
I know you have been an ardent anti Northerner, it does not mean you can just judge people’s rights solely on which kingdom did they belong some 500 years ago.
Wise up, use new concepts to define people, their rights, guarantee their dignity, security and safety, justice, equality of opportunity, human rights, …
If you are to wise up, you need to learn to see beyond your nose.
” TNA is in fact functioning in Parliament as a partner of the Ranil-Srisena government though its leader Sampanthan is officially designated as the Leader of the Opposition.”
Whats wrong with it? Once you mourned that the Northern Tamils have been keep playing the opposition role even when the state was willing to accommodate them as partners. Please make up your mind.
You must have over looked what a section of the same SLFP playing out in the parliament, who call themselves common opposition. What stop you from commending on the ugliness of unofficial opposition leader the war criminal crook and the parliamentary farce?
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Naga / April 4, 2016
Native Vedda
I am sorry to find that you have not carefully read my comments.
I was only refuting the statement in the Vaddukoddai Resolution that “….their history (meaning Tamils of the North East Sri Lanka) of independent existence as a separate state over a distinct territory over several centuries till they were conquered by the armed might of the European invaders”.
The only separate state (if you call a Kingdom a state) was the Jaffna Kingdom. The historical fact is that Jaffna Kingdom never extended to the East or to the Vanni. Eastern Tamils at the time of the European invasion were ruled by various chieftains who all owed their allegiance to the Kandyan King.
Not just the TULF by its Vaddukoddai Resolution but various Jaffna based Tamil groups including LTTE had been propagating this myth that the North East Tamils have a right to separate statehood based on the fact that there existed a Tamil Kingdom in Jaffna exercising sovereignty over the whole of Northern and Eastern provinces of Sri Lanka at the time of the European invasion.
The real argument should be that the North East Sri Lanka is the historical habitat of the Tamils which is a fact. Based on this argument the North East Tamils may have a right to demand not a separate state but devolution powers perhaps under a federal system of government where their separate identity, rights and equal treatment could be assured.
I agree with your statement that “no one king ruled the entire island uninterrupted under one umbrella or chakravartin” and ”this island was ruled by numerous so called kings, in fact they were not kings but headmen of larger villages” . The last part “they were not kings but headmen or large villages” truly applied to the Eastern Tamils just before the arrival of the European invaders.
For your question “How do you define a kingdom, a people, a habitat, sovereignty, ancestral land, homeland, ….. ?” you should easily find the answers if you read relevant literature and there is no need for me to tutor you on this subject at this forum.
To your question “Can you categorically say Tamils didn’t live in other parts of the island or for that matter the Sinhalese were the sole inhabitant of the entire/part of the island?” my answer is that that Tamils had in fact lived in other parts of the island and still continue to live in other parts of Sri Lanka and that Sinhalese cannot claim to be sole inhabitants of the entire island or part of the island.
You referred to my comment about TNA working with the government even though its leader is officially designated as the Leader of the Opposition and asked “ What’s wrong with it?” and stated that “Once you mourned that the Northern Tamils have been keep playing the opposition role even when the state was willing to accommodate them as partners.”
I never said that it is wrong for TNA to work with the government. I made this statement only to stress that the present Tamil representatives have rejected the separate state demand and are working with the government while the likes of Usha and those from TGTE are absurdly insisting on a separate Eelam state much against the reality in Sri Lanka.
However, what I see as wrong in TNA’s support to the Ranil-Sirisena Government is that TNA is extending its support obviously for nothing in return. TNA appears to be giving a blanket support to the Ranil-Sirisena Government. Tell me whether TNA had achieved for the Tamils since they extended their support to Sirisena since the January 8 2015 election.
Further, what I personally see wrong is this government’s pro-Washington stance which is readily accepted and supported by the TNA. The problem with TNA is that its present day policies are apparently decided by one man, that is Sumanthiran, and rubber stamped by Sampanthan even though TNA is an alliance of at least four separate Tamil parties. EPRLF leader Suresh Premachandran has openly expressed his dismay at this dictatorial attitude of the TNA leader Sampanthan in making arbitrary and unilateral political decisions for and on behalf of TNA.
You mentioned that I am not commenting on the unofficial opposition leader. I never gave blanket approval to the unofficial opposition leader and I acclaimed him mainly for destroying LTTE. As is typical in the Sri Lankan politics, the unofficial opposition is opposing anything and everything the government does. The UNP did the same when SLFP Coalition was in power in the past. That does not mean that I am supportive of everything the unofficial opposition is doing at the moment.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / April 4, 2016
NV,
Bravo! You have raised the much needed questions and they are absolutely rational too. We are trying to tailor a rational history from nonexistent details and sketchy facts. The Mahavamsa too makes the story of Kings the story of the people. The same trend yet continues.
Dr.RN
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Thamilan / April 3, 2016
I agree 100% with the ‘Peace Lover’. We have to think of those living in the North and East today. Please don’t dig into history and make it difficult for those trying to resolve ‘Singhala /Tamil problem and make them live peacefully.
I like to read the views of those living in the North and East.
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New Vanguard / April 3, 2016
A referendum, Canadian style, will include all of Sri Lanka, the entire voting population.
Do you think a majority of Sri Lankans want a Tamil Eelam?
Go ahead, have a referendum and lose.
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Aia / April 3, 2016
Rather than making this appeal to Tamils still living here in the land to join hands with TGTE from a distance, why do not you consider coming here to have a celebration 40th anniversary at the spot where this resolution was passed. TNA is more than capable to steer ship through the turbulent water, keep TGTE where it is. You could have ran away from this country ages ago as soon as sensing what was to come, and you want us here to hear you to fulfill your pipe dreams. You are not alone in that, we see a handful of attention seekers going down this path, knowing full well how severely this kind of cheap publicity seeking attics could jeopardize livelihood of those who live here. We all know, even if separation is granted, you wont be coming here to live, you want a separate country for holidaying and boasting.
You don’t care whose blood is being shed, as long as your children are safer and doing well. Don’t you see people will see your blatant hypocrisy, treating and safeguarding your children the best way possible and inviting the others’ children to keep fighting. Like meat in the sandwich, one side SL army and the other side LTTE, we have had enough, pls let us have a quieter life, don’t want to see grease devils visiting us in the nights.
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jim softy / April 3, 2016
Empowering Diaspora.
Dalit Tamils who gained form Sri lanka now living overseas feel empty because they don’t have their own country, they can not think of Hindu dominant Tamilnadu, so need their own state in Sri lanka.
On the other hand, India needs Indianization of Sri lanka. That is why Indian Tamil is appointed, not elected, to start a program called reconciliation which is indinization of the country to fit the needs of India.
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Tamil from the north / April 3, 2016
Usha Sriskandarajah, you talk of Tamil Ealam, you talk of Vadukotai resolution, you talk of the TGTE fellows, you talk of Tamil Ealam again………………I have a few questions for you, please answer them?
1-you live in beautiful Canada (same here) but during the war where were you?
2-SL has never been a poverty stricken country, this war made it impossible to live there…………..on one side the Sinhala Buddhist hoodlums and on the other side the bloody LTTE and the other groups. In the middle the dirty Indians and the southern hoodlums called the JVP. So why did you leave this beautiful land? I left as I did not want to kill anyone and did not want to get killed.
3-where are your children? did they fight in the war or went onto gain higher knowledge? are they married and having children in a foreign land?
4-if answer to Q3 is yes they are in Canada, married with great education and having a family, are you willing to send them back home to fight for this TE farce you are dreaming about?
5-Isn’t this the very reason many of us run away from there? then why do you ask for TE like a small child asking for a toffee (Candy)?
6-the day you are willing to sacrifice your own then start writing all this rubbish you write………….otherwise simply shut up, enough I enough!!!!
NO MORE TAMIL EALAM……………..we live in peace and want people of SL to live in peace…………Tamils, Sinhalese, Burghers………..etc……..all need to be left alone. Sick and tired of this TGTE, TE and all this nonsense.
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / April 3, 2016
A bit late for April Fools’, isn’t it Usha? How about another picture of you fighting to give birth to Demezh Eezham while sitting on the throne instead? :D
https://www.colombotelegraph.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Usha-Sriskandarajah.jpg
“Mmmmmmfffff prrrrrrttt uggggggggg ahhhhhh” *plop* And Demezh Eezham is born :D
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roger / April 4, 2016
VR is almost obsolete now. If one reads it carefully you can appreciate that most of the reasons cited to promote the formation of a separate state are not relevant today. Education – there are more higher education facilities (compared to the population) in Tamil areas of the country. Employment – no one waits for a government job these days. Land – land based nationalism is a thing of the past – if a Tamil can buy a land in Pannipitiya why can’t Sinhalese or Muslims live in Jaffna. Tamils have lived in Anuradapura as Buddhist Tamils in ancient times and Tamils have been kings in all parts of Sri Lanka – the egregation is only post colonial- we need to revert back.
The only issue that remains is the dignified existence of Tamils in Sri Lanka- whether this is possible under a unitary state? An asymmetric power devolution is the only way forwards.
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Tamil from the north / April 4, 2016
Usha, let us live and let others live as well mainly in SL. TNA mainly Sambandan appear to be doing a decent job. We have a decent government trying to do a decent job in SL………..I realise they are not perfect but they appear to be trying. We got rid of 2 scumbags (one in 2009 and the other in 2015). Lets leave it there and please stop trying to stir the pot for your entertainment, while your family flourishes, I say this again and again in BEAUTIFUL CANADA, let the people of SL live as well. Every time people like you open your mouth and spew out garbage, it gives a racist amongst the Sinhalese to hurt the minority. Have we ever asked for forgiveness for what the dirty LTTE did to the Muslims in Jaffna? If we cry foul when the majority hurt the minority, why didn’t we cry foul when we hurt our minority……..the Muslims? Usha please STOP!!!!!!
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Arya Chakrawarti / April 4, 2016
ALL STATES BETWEEN TOILET NADU & GUJURAT HAVE A CLAIM TO INDUS
IN THIS THE TAMILS CANNOT JUMP THE CUE DISREGARDING OTHER INDIANS
THE GANGES CIVILIZATION IS THE DIRECT SUCESSOR OF THE INDUS CIVILIZATION (AFTER LONG PERIODS OF DROUGHT)
THE SINHALESE HAVE A DIRECT CLAIM TO THE INDUS VALEY CIVILIZATION THROUGH PRINCE VIJAYA AS WELL AS THROUGH PRINCESS BADHAKACHANA, HEMAMALI AND EMPEROR ASOKA’S & EMPRESS KAURAWAKI’S SON, MONK MAHINDA.
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jim softy / April 4, 2016
Tamilway bullying sinhala people constant bickering to get what they want.
Onluy problem is Dumb politicians trying to be international politicians just bending and kneeling in front of powerful countries.
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Tamil from the north / April 4, 2016
Jim Shitty the dimwit, 12% of the population bullying 75% of the population. Interesting indeed!!!
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Tamil from the north / April 7, 2016
Jim Shitty, you are one sad paranoid piece of sh*&.
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Suni / April 4, 2016
It’s a pity that people like this lady still trying to stir the pot.
They are continuing to make the lives of Tamils and /sinhalese miserable equally by publicising this sort of provocative write ups.
They should be condemned by peace loving people.
This is noting but an attempt to mark their prescience.
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Pacs / April 4, 2016
boundaries and territories are not static . The are dynamic and change constantly. Present boundaries and countries have been defined by the empire of Briton. even limits of provinces and districts are defined by them. The could not fight or lost the fight with America and they settled it amicably with USA and partnering. The EU is a big challenge for them. Even in SL the areas of the districts and LCs are constantly changed. If you take up thing as it is at present you have to forget the recent and distant past history. That means you should approve and forget all the killings, torture, massacres and annihilation. That means accept the jungle rule and ignore civilization.Of course when the todays’ 5 th column is considered the killings and tortures are legalised norms of life. When another atom is split the present empire will change.
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Pacs / April 4, 2016
You all are wasting time in fighting over the place which is going to submerge in the sea like the continent south of Lanka did. With another tectonic movement most of lanka will be under the sea. Spend the time on survival and escaping Lanka to another part of the planet. Or buy a ticket in advance to travel through the space.
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Manicka Vasagar / April 4, 2016
What the Vaddukkottai Resolution defined in 1976, 40 years ago, was short, sharp and clear – There will be no peace for the Sri Lankans until Eelam Tamils are allowed to live in peace with dignity, to prosper and develop their own homeland as a sovereign independent Tamil Nation. Can all Tamils, please rise.
God save the queen, but nothing will save the racist Sinhala system and mindset.
It is very clear, based on the 66 year history, that a home grown solution will never ever be possible under any Sinhala majoritarian racist regimes. United National Governments will only UNITE to destroy and continue subjugating the Tamils with colonisation and changing the demographic and with integration with singhalese army people.
The only option for the International Community to deliver peace in the island and stability in the region, is to to arrange a UN conducted referendum for the Tamils in the NorthEast, for the Tamil Diaspora who were forced out after the 1983 riots and for the thousands of refugees scattered around the world, to decide their future destiny within the Island.
The process is already in place, UNSG Report, Petrie Report, many other current reports, Ch 4 NFZ, UNHRC Resolutions 1-4, MAP, the suicidal attitude and statements, thumbing the nose of the IC and the UN resolution, by the so called “GoSL for Good Governance” and TGTE following it through with the IC, to ICC / UNSC and towards referendum, self determination and Tamil Eelam. State terrorism against a community, war crimes, crimes against humanity and structural genicide without accountability for justice cannot be negotiable.
Self determination is a basic fundamental right in the UN Charter.
Let peace be upon all of us.
God bless Tamil Eelam.
Manicka Vasagar
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Manivannan / April 5, 2016
Thanks Usha Sriskantharaja for raising the vattukottai Resolution when Tamil Eelam was declared 40 years ago by all the tamils in the Island of Sri Lanka! on the 14th of May 1975. In 1977 election TULF fort on the manufesto promise to carry out the establishment of Tamil Eelam In the North East of Island of Sri Lanka, Where tamils have lived for thousands of years. It is a fundamental Human right of tamils as a nation. Under united nation convention on political, social rights. No Human being will deny that except the perpetrators of Tamil Genocide in Sri Lanka !
It was voted in by the Tamil speaking Majority more than 90% in north east and gave 22 seats which is the maximum seat in the contumacy of Tamils.
not only that UNP gained nearly all the seats in Sinhalese areas to stop tamils from their democratic rights. The division was clear.
Still that division goes on !
The democratic mandate of the Tamil speaking population in Sri Lanka was quest by the Buddhist Chauvinistic permanent majority created by the British who merged Tamil areas with Sinhalese areas in 1833 for ruling from India. and run off after the second world war did not have the forces to control any one because millions died.
There will be a different story the British ruled from India left Ceylon in the hand of India. Then Tamils will the majority. The Sinhalese will be fighting for Sri Lanka and will be making similar resolutions. But Tamils will support their autonomy claims.
Tamils as a civilized nation will not do the Genocide like the one done by Sinhalese in the name of terrarium. Why they made more than million plantation workers state less it is against the United nation convention which Ceylon was signatory to. where was the terrarium in 1956, 1958 1977 where is the terrarium they still killed Tamils???
In 1983 for 13 Sinhalese solders did killed more than 3000 innocent Tamils civilians and destroyed billions RS worth of Tamil properties. How much the Sri Lankan government has compensated for that. The disgraced president JR telling a UK paper that ” I am not worried about what jaffna people say ! If I suppress more Tamils, Sinhalese people will be happy” what a wonderful statement to make after the Genocide of Tamils!
JR a christian changed to Buddhism for come to power did irrecoverable damage
to Tamil Sinhalese relationship by introducing Triconian emergency laws in 1979 still it continues in the form of PTA only directed towards Tamils population in Sri Lanka.
Who can forget the 2009 mass killing of tails by MR and his cronies. Both UNP JR and SLFP MR has carried out genocide of Tamils. Now both of them join together saying we will investigate the International Crimes! Where can you find the justice like this ! No foreign Judges !!! We will write our Judgement on Tamils we have killed.(They are all terrorist including the 2 moths not even born.
Tamils have the right to self determination. They have expressed it 40 years ago democratically. They are willing to confirm it again if a UN lead referendum call upon like the countries south Sudan, Kosovo Then Tamils will confirm it again even after 40 years and even after the suffering we will never give up our freedom to any one !
The Buddhism says the bad karma you reap will only to be enjoyed by you and the suffering will come and It is on it way.
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Peter Schalk / April 5, 2016
Dear Usha, your article is important and rich in details. The many comments show that the Vattukottai-resolution is still a “hot” subject. In your next article I suggest that you take up trail-blazers for Tamililam preceding the resolution and in an another article you could take up a comparison between the resolution and the set of ideas promoted by Veluppillai Pirapakaran. Thank you for your good work. Peter.
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sekara / April 5, 2016
I have commented on the Resolution earlier. I reproduce extracts that hopefully will complete the picture
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The drift towards the Vaddukkoddai Resolution started with the humiliation of A Amirthalingam in the 1970 polls.
To recapture his position at the top of Tamil nationalist politics, AA encouraged extreme positions on many issues as well as Tamil youth militancy, (part of which of course was due to anger about Standardization 1970/71 and a series of unwise acts of the government). Insensitive aspects of the constitution of 1972 contributed too.
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What was bad about the Resolution was that the Tamil public were denied the opportunity to debate Tamil Eelam prior to the Resolution, after a series of public debates on “Tamil Eelam” between the revolutionary communists and Tamil nationalists in the North demonstrated that the TULF had no plans to achieve the goal, let alone its undesirability etc.
Best known of those was the debate between TULF’s Dharmalingam and the (revolutionary) Communist Party’s Sanmugathasan in 1975, presided by ‘Orator’ Subramaniam. Sanmugathasan.
Debate thereafter were prohibited by the TULF leadership, and after the Resolution was adopted, sentiment got the better of sense and later gun-toting young men stifled dissent.
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The hypocrisy of the FP leadership was significant too.The FP’s silence on the assassination of former Jaffna Mayor Duraiappa in 1975, was an effective endorsement. That was not long after followed by public hints that certain Tamil ‘traitors’ deserved to die. After the 1977 elections, the FP/TULF was unable to control youth violence, which soon turned against their lot.
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The Resolution had much to do with the need for an issue on which the FP/TULF could fetch votes, as the language issue had exhausted itself as a vote puller after he FP joined the UNP-led regime in 1965.
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Unlike earlier, the inaction of the FP/TULF– after receiving a massive mandate and a secret deal with the UNP, which they supported in the South –was seen as betrayal by many of its supporters, especially the young, who made the Resolution their own militant project. Vaddukkoddai Resolution, really was no mistake of the Tamil leadership, but an inevitable and logical consequence of is elitist politics.
In short:
Tamil Eelam is dead duck and no political witchcraft can return it to life.
The Vaddukkoddai resolution was planned deception by the FP and a section of the TC which achieved its important goal but led to a tragic mess up.
To analyse Tamil nationalist projects without attention to class and class interests will be futile.
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Davd / April 8, 2016
[Edited out] writes LIES again. Tamil homeland is Tamilnadu, go there and let Sinhalese live in peace in their own country.
Since you people already have a homeland called Tamilnadu, you invasive people should not ask for “Tamil homeland branches” world wide.
Have you already thought of next Tamil homeland branch in Canada? if so, Have you made Toronto-resolution-equivalent to Vaddukoddai- resolution? if so, are you armed and formed the terrorist organization? if so, are you Usha Sri-Skanda-Rajah the leader of the terrorist organization? if so, are you ready to fight Canadian army? if so, are you ready to get you butt kicked into the nearest lagoon? after that, are you ready to accuse the Canadian government and the army of genocide of dumb Tamil homeland seekers? after that, are you ready to go to Geneva to complain? after doing all these, ARE YOU READY TO MAKE PROSPEROUS CANADA INTO A THIRD-WORLD?
When will the London Tamil homeland branch resolution, the Paris Tamil homeland branch resolution ,etc be published?
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Paul / April 8, 2016
If Tamil home land is Tamil Nadu then what is Sinhalese homeland? Kerala/Tamil Nadu Bengal/Orissa. Most of the present day Sinhalese are from Kerala/Tamil Nadu with a small minority having their origins from Bengal/Orissa area. What is good for the Tamils is good for the Sinhalese too.
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Ceielo / April 8, 2016
Davd
Whatever nonsense you blabber, nobody can change the demography of North & East of Sri Lanka (Tamil Eelam). The North & East of Sri Lanka was Tamil, is Tamil and will be Tamil forever. You can name your part of Sri Lanka as Sinhale or whatever leaving the Tamil part (Tamil Eelam) to the Tamils.
If the Sinhalese continue to insist that the whole of Sri Lanka belongs to them then the Tamils have no choice other than to call for a separation just like ‘Kosovo’, ‘East Timor’, ‘Montenegro’ and ‘South Sudan’ where the United Nations intervened and had a referendum.
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