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Wahhabi Salafi Orthodoxy & An Apostate

By Ameer Ali

Dr. Ameer Ali

“Don’t let anyone break your wings, you are free, fight and get your RIGHTS”, were the words tweeted by the eighteen year old apostate, Rafa al-Qunun from Saudi Arabia, who renounced Islam, ran away from her family and sought asylum in a foreign country. UNHCR recognised her as a refugee and Canada welcomed her. Saudi government washed its hands off from any responsibility and treated the matter as a family issue. A regime that is already reeling under international pressure calling for justice over the brutal murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi is understandably keeping its distance from the whole affair. However, is the Saudi regime totally blameless? Is the regime not in collusion with the most ultra-conservative religious ideology, Wahhabi Salafism, which is making life oppressive for women in that country? For decades if not centuries, women in that kingdom have been crying to be freed from the suffocating rigidities of a religious orthodoxy that is depriving them of their God given dignity and human right? The reality is that in Wahhabi Salafism Saudi Monarchy finds a powerful weapon to keep its people under submission. To relax the grip of Wahhabi Salafism is to invite danger for the survival of the regime itself.   

Rafa al-Qunun, in her tweeted message added further that she was ill treated by her family for cutting her hair short and was locked up in a room for six months. She is now fearing for her life, because she has renounced Islam and become an apostate for which shariah prescribes death as punishment. Her father, in an interview to authorities in Thailand, said that she is one of his ten children and admitted without elaboration that she may have felt “neglected” at times.  If family abuse was the main grievance the girl could have just run away without renouncing Islam. Why did she renounce both?  

About three decades ago, while I was chatting in Perth, Australia, with the late Egyptian born Dr. El-Irian, an internationally recognised scholar in cultural studies, a humanist and a former president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, on Muslim affairs, he said with great regret and concern that “orthodoxy has made Islam unliveable for the young and many are running away from it”. Rafa’s escape and apostasy has provided the latest factual proof to El-Irian’s statement. What follows is a short exposition of the oppressive nature of religious orthodoxy focusing mainly on Wahhabi Salafism.

While European Enlightenment in the 16th century gave birth to modernity, intellectual rationalism and scientific theories, post-modernism in the 20th century revolted against all structured theories of its predecessor and produced in turn a new era that challenged even the rationalist assumptions of modernism. Post-modernism marks the beginning of an age of endless revolt against all received wisdom and relentless search to discover and experiment new responses and solutions to problems confronting every branch of human life. The questions why and why not are the driving forces behind this ceaseless quest and they are dismantling age old fortresses of wisdom built on spiritual foundations. 

However, this ceaseless quest has hit a brick wall in the Muslim world, particularly where Muslims live in majority and where religious orthodoxy and orthopraxy have strangle hold over the believers thought and actions. Logically speaking, modernism and its post-modern prodigy should have started in the world of Islam had the rationalist movement that sprouted in the 9th and blossomed till the end of 11th centuries been allowed to grow unchallenged and pushed to the brink of extinction by a state backed religious orthodoxy based on narrow scriptural readings. This orthodoxy since then had become the handmaiden of Muslim autocrats and oppressive regimes in their determination to keep in submission people whom they rule. Saudi Arabia is a classic example of this diabolic partnership between autocracy and religious orthodoxy cum orthopraxy. Moreover, after the Second World War and during the Cold War, US superpower with its European allies found this partnership particularly handy in designing a new Middle East Order. Thus, Saudi Arabia with her petroleum resources is uniquely protected from the intrusion of any post-modern tendencies. Any sign of such tendency is nipped in the bud either through monetary bribe or bloodshed. What happened there in the aftermath of the Arab Spring is proof of this. Yet, as will be shown later, this protection is crumbling through the floodgates of a digital age.

Islamic religious orthodoxy, like Islam itself, is not a monolith. It is a mosaic of differentiated ideologies founded by leaders of different nationalities and cultures with different objectives and methodologies. They also differ in respect of their degree of tolerance towards alternative views and critical thought. Within this mosaic however, the Wahhabi brand of Salafi orthodoxy born in Saudi Arabia is perhaps the most rigid and ultraconservative. Although the eponymous Wahhabism began in 18th century and founded by preacher Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab, and gained ascendancy and permanency through his political alliance with the tribal chief Muhammad bin Saud, its religious philosophy has a long genealogy traceable to the ideas of one of the four famous imams in Sunni Islam, Ahmad ibn Hanbal (780-855). Of the four Sunni schools of thought Hanbalism is the most rigid. Wahhabi Salafism with its orthopraxy is a distinct package of dos and don’ts, administered through a state backed religious bureaucracy and institutions that is suffocating the ordinary life of many of the kingdom’s subjects, particularly that of the womenfolk. How this is can be demonstrated by few examples.  

In 2002, when Girl School no. 31 caught fire in Mecca, 15 of its young students perished in that fire, only because the mutawween or religious police refused to allow those girls escape, because they were “not properly covered”. To this police, a piece of cloth was more sacrosanct than fifteen bubbling human lives. No women in that country can step out of her house alone unless accompanied by a relative male. Even then, she should be properly covered from head to toe. Driving by women was prohibited, which led to the ‘Women2Drive’ protest movement by some daring females. They were arrested and thrown into jail. Some of them are reported still languishing in prison even though prohibition has been removed recently, by the so called modernist Crown Prince Muhammad bin Salman, who is alleged to have masterminded the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. To apply for driving licence a woman has to first get permission from her husband or father. Gender mixing even in offices is strictly prohibited. Men are permitted to have multiple wives and concubines, but women cannot have multiple husbands or boyfriends. In short, women in Saudi Arabia are virtually second class citizens. 

The Wahhabi Salafi package is an all or nothing offer. No question about the contents of the package is tolerated and no suggestion for repackaging is entertained. Nevertheless, the walls of Salafi orthodoxy are beginning to crack. The internet and social media have opened the flood gates for internal challenges. While questions are now being asked and suggestions for change are pushed from within the Salafi stronghold itself, by a group of “Muted Modernists”, as Medawi al-Rasheed, the Saudi Arabia born scholar calls them, an eighteen year old girl has decided to reject the entire package and caught the world’s attention. To this youngster, Salafi orthodoxy with its orthopraxy and her own family schooled in that oppressive environment have become intolerable, and hence her decision to become an apostate. She is not the first woman to do so however, nor will be the last.

There is an observable tension within the world of Islam between the champions of religious orthodoxy based on mytho-historical mindset and a growing generation of young men and women equipped with a post-modernist techno-scientific mindset. There is, in other words, a clash between tradition and post-modernity. The whys and why nots that the new generation is asking cannot be satisfactorily answered with quotations from past wisdom and examples from past generations. Without the power of reasoning and logic and without tolerance for alternate views and approaches religious leaders cannot guide the new generation.  It is this glaring g failure by orthodoxy that prompted El-Irian to make that statement and the young girl to become an apostate. The challenge is not only for Saudi Arabia but also by inference to all other shades of religious orthodoxies that are trying to close the flood gates of reason and logic.    

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    Why does the Sharia call for the death (murder) of an individual who renounces islam? Isn’t there a freedom of choice of religion in islam, like in buddhism?

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      I know Sinhalese buddhist is writing every where. I though t you to be Muslim. I think you can be Evangelist.

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      Moderate Muslims do not believe that apostasy requires punishment.Critics argue that the death penalty or other punishment for apostasy in Islam is a violation of universal human rights, and an issue of freedom of faith and conscience. – Wiki..

      Saudi Arabia has different translation. Does Buddhism allow someone to have Islam as their religion, while the same person can be a Buddhist on spiritual side, since Buddhism is not a religion?

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        Mohamed, “Does Buddhism allow someone to have Islam as their religion, while the same person can be a Buddhist on spiritual side, since Buddhism is not a religion”?
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        If the person in question started off as a Buddhist and wants to convert to Islam it is his business, no Buddhist would even dream of punishing him/her unless he becomes a ‘really good’ Muslim, decides to get radicalized, and starts breaking up Buddha statues or indulge in activities that harm others. Buddhists consider religion to be entirely a personal choice. In fact, the question you asked does not even arise as there is no central Buddhist authority vested with the power to decide on such questions. However, moral and other pressures may be applied on the person by his family, friends and the priest of the local temple etc. against such actions. But these are similar to the pressures applied on someone who wants to change the political party he/she is affiliated to.
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        If the person started off as a Muslim, the question as to whether he should be killed would be decided by you Muslims. Buddhists surely would welcome such people. If at a certain point, he is not satisfied with the change, we would not stand in his way, if he wants to go back to Islam. Rest assured that no one on the Buddhist side is going to kill the person in question. That does not mean that he is entirely safe, because Muslims would be duty bound to kill him.
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        You also say “since Buddhism is not a religion”. The answer depends on the definition of the word. If by ‘religion’ you mean a belief system centered on an omnipotent creator God, such as the God of Abrahamic religions, then Buddhism is certainly not a religion.

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        Mohamed,

        Since Buddhism is a Philisophy, not Religion, a Buddhist can have any Religoon, just like Philosophers can.

        Sinhala-Buddhism has turned the Buddhist Philosophy into a Religion, as the People wanted a religion.

        So, instead of After life, they came up with Rebirth, which is there in Hinduism, but no Soul. Remember, the Buddhist texts were written down about 400 years after Buddha died. Were there any errors?

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      Insecurity of the faith. Can you have an open discussion on those areas in quran or hadith? If they are friends, they may not talk to you again.

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      Dr. Ameer Ali,

      RE:Wahhabi Salafi Orthodoxy & An Apostate

      Thanks for the write up and exposing the Satan following Wahhbi-Salafis and the Orthodoxy.

      1. The Wahhabi-Salafi package, is the package of the Satan, per Hadith of Najd. Wahhabi-Salafis and the Orthodoxy treats women as Chattel, things to be traded, and protected. Rafa al-Qunun has rejected the Wahhabi-Salafi package in particular, and the orthodoxy in general. There are multitudes.

      Scholar from al-Azhar: Wahhabism is a Satanic Faith, the Horn of the Devil that Muhammad Predicted

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UDy_apXW3E

      How to debate with the so called Wahhabi-Salafiyyah.
      Hadith of Najd

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Najd

      2. In the 12th Century, Ibn Rushd tried to elevate Reason and demonstration above revelation, and was persecuted. Some, despite great risks have confronted the Orthodoxy. There are thousands like Rafa al-Qunun, no one hears about, but the core problem is the orthodoxy and the interpretation of the Quran and Hadith, as interpreted by the orthodoxy.

      Ibn Rushd in his darkest hour

      https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/artsandculture/2015/4/9/ibn-rushd-in-his-darkest-hour

      He also wrote The Decisive Treatise, Determining the Nature of the Connection between Religion and Philosophy.

      This book makes him the originator of the idea that Greek rational heritage does not contradict Islam and that scriptural sciences have an arena as do rational deductive sciences.
      Ibn Rushd is the most capable rationalist philosopher in the history of Arab civilization.

      The reasons for the persecution of Ibn Rushd vary according to those who studied his struggle and their intellectual levels.

      A final reason offered was Ibn Rushd’s book The Incoherence of the Incoherence, in which he responded to the fallacies of Abu Hamid al-Ghazali’s The Incoherence of Philosophers. He did this despite knowing Ghazali was the master of the Almohad dynasty who were in power, and believed the earth was located between the horns of a bull.

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        Amarasiri

        The topic here is about a girl who left her family and religion to get into Canada (target) or other western countries. If you know anything about it write instead writing nonsense like Ibn Rushd etc which are irrelevant to this topic.

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          Ralli ameen,

          What is the cause of the girl leaving Islam and seeking Asylum?Why did she leave Islam? What is the cause?

          She left The Islam, as interpreted by the Wahhabis-Salafis and the Orthodoxy. She was not the first, and she won’t be the last.

          There are reports that 75 percent of American Muslim youth born And growing up in the USA leave the Islam as interpreted by the Orthodoxy. It will be interesting to find out why the balance 25 percent do not leave.

          What the writer , succinctly points out is that it is the (Satan,) Wahhabi-Saladin interpretation of Islam and the Orthodoxy interpretation of Islam, that is the cause, because they interpret It literally.

          Per Hadith of Najd, Wahhabi-Salafis who hail from Najd and their followers will end up in Hell Fire.

          Give up your Wahhhabi-Salafism, and seek asylum in Canada. Be careful Going to a Saudi Embassy. They chop people. Just read up on ALL the works of Ibn Rushd, and get your Wahhabi-Salafi Orthodoxy. brainwashed mind cleared.

          It will be good for you overall.

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            Amarsiri

            The opinion everybody giving here were just the assumptions the best way they can do but not the real truth. The real truth only she knows. May be her mind was filled with all the western filth in the name of liberalization like porno, sex parities, orgies etc and had strong urges to get into it. The best way can get it is to get into western countries so she did it. Not only that she will get money from ant-Muslims for to enjoy well. When somebody’s life is in danger only you can get asylum in western countries so her trump card was Islam and killing of converts. All religions accept their teaching so it orthodoxy. Ibn Rushd was a strong Muslim so he would have followed the same orthodoxy. Wahabism was a word coined by westerners like Muhamedism. During Wahab’s time Saudi Arabia plunged into darkness like Saint’s tomb worshipping, all types of saints worshipping etc and perpetrators were making money. It was Wahab who cleaned up all these with the help of King and brought back the original pure teachings of Islam. Most people like you and the Shias hate Wahab because of that.

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              Ralli ameen,

              Ibn Rushd was an Islamic judge, coming from a good lineage of Islamic Judges. He was also a scientist and Philosopher, a lover of wisdom, in addition to being an Alim, Imam. He knew more than his fellow Ulama, and showed how incorrect the Ashatite Al-Ghazali was on 17 of his 20 arguments. He also said that there is no conflict with Islamic Theology and Philosophy. Only those with knowledge, i.e. Philosophers can understand the Quran. Surah 3:7.Not the Ulama. So, they applied political pressure on the rulers to Punish Ibn Rushd, banish him and burn the philosophy books. The Saudis will clearly kill this girl like they killed Kamal inside the Saudi Embassy, because the Saudis follow Wahhabism, that is a Satanic faith, per Authentic Hadith, Sahih Hadith of Najd, presciently predicted by Prophet Mohamed.

              This is Islamic History. Orthodoxy wants to maintain their hegemony. Ask ACJU.

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                Amarasiri

                You are writing Wahabism is satanic faith so you write what this faith preach. During Wahab’s time Mecca became almost a idolatry place by those money makers who had twisted and turned Islam to their advantages like sainty worshipping (tombs), recitation festivals on some days etc. Whahab who noted Islam getting degraded with all types of innovations and with the help of Rulers put stop a to all these and punished all those who brought differences. That is only Quran and Sunna of Prophet should be followed. He did not create a new Quran or changed what is therein. Don’t talk nonsense unless you know the real truth but not by reading articles published by ant-Muslims in Wiki.

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                  ralli ameen,

                  “You are writing Wahabism is satanic faith so you write what this faith preach. During Wahab’s time Mecca became almost a idolatry place by those money makers who had twisted and turned Islam to their advantages like sainty worshipping (tombs), recitation festivals on some days etc. Whahab who noted Islam getting degraded with all types of innovations and with the help of Rulers put stop a to all these and punished all those who brought differences”

                  Can a Horse Fly?
                  Wahhab is described in the Hadith of Najd.

                  What is the difference between worshipping (tombs), recitation festivals on some days , and going around a cube containing a stone 7 times, because Prophet Mohamed did so, as a concession to the Qureshi Tribe, that was financially rewarding, before Islam? What about kissing the black stone vs. a tomb? ,

                  Why 7 times? Why was the Uthamnic Quran written in the Qureshi dialect?

                  You need to use Reason, to understand these. Revelation, limits your thinking.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1LS4rOexKw

                  Tarek Fatah on Rahaf Mohammed’s Apostasy in Islam – Behind the News @TAG TV

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              Ralli ameen, Wahhabi-Salafi “Expert”

              Two simple questions for you.

              1. How old was Aisha when she married Prophet Mohamed?
              6, 9, 17, 18, 19.or 20?
              What support do you have for your answer?

              2. How many years older was Asma, Aisha’s older sister than Aisha? How old was Asma when she died? When did Aisha die? How old was she when she died?

              You can certainly consult with your Wahhabi/Salagi Orthodoxy, Ilama and other Islamic and Hidtoricsl scholars and give s reasonable and supportable answer.

              Appreciate your best answer.

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          Did she leave her family and religion in order to get into Canada. Or did she stop believing in her religion and then found it impossible to continue to live in Saudi Arabia? I think the latter is more plausible. Canada accepts people of all religions and has at least a million moslems living there. So there was no necessity for her to leave her religion in order to “get into Canada”. That is merely your interpretation because it seems you would rather blame Canada for what has happened than the Saudi clerics.

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            dingiri ,

            “Did she leave her family and religion in order to get into Canada. Or did she stop believing in her religion and then found it impossible to continue to live in Saudi Arabia? I think the latter is more plausible.”

            Yes. That is what the teenager says. There is no surprise here, since she was living under the Wahhabi-Salafi Orthodoxy in Saudi Arabia, who follow the Satan. She saved herself from the Hell Fire of the Satan.

            Saudi teen refugee Rahaf Mohammed makes public statement

            CBC News
            Streamed live on Jan 15, 2019

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXTgM4wBZiw

            Rahaf Mohammed, the Saudi teen granted asylum in Canada will make her first public statement since arriving in Toronto over the weekend. Mohammed received asylum after she fled her allegedly abusive family

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      No. This is one of the biggest problems in Islam, one that keeps away those who are interested in trying it out. It is a one way street. Once you join, there is no returning back. Renouncing Islam is considered as Apostacy, a sin punishable by death. The punishment may be given out by any Muslim and he/she will not be prosecuted for murder in Islamic states.

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        babloo,

        Muslims are humans too, and not crazy (unless real extremists) to kill someone for changing religion. If so, how many men and women might have been killed in SL by now?

        To give a sample, we worked in Bahrain’s biggest hotel, 7-star grade, sort of, during 21’s, managed by a leading chain though the local owner Shaikh looked after it. Shaikh had a Sinhalese SL maid in her 50’s, and she wanted a change and Shaikh made a part of the security team. This woman converted to Islam, correctly observed tastings and wore a black Abaya too. But we all, including the Shaikh knew that she becomes a Buddhist on her vacation and a Muslim back in Manama. We never said anything, nor did the Sheikh but we just ignored it.

        Morale is there are certain things like love, trust, faith etc are above what can be controlled by enforcement through parents, police or a religion. That should be valued.

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      Sinhala Buddhist,

      According to Wahhabi-Salafism and Othodoxy, Islam is one way, Revelation is above reason and demonstration, data, and apostasy as interpreted by them citing the Quran and Hadith, is punishable by death.

      Have you heard about the Catholic Inquisition? The Spanish Inquisition? It is the same thing. The Difference here is that the Catholic Church had grown up, and the Wahhabi-Salafies and the Muslim Orthodoxy have NOT grown up yet.

      For them, the Earth is spread out like a carpet, the Sun goes around the Earth, there are seven heavens, man came from Adam, not evolution etc. It will take some time, like it did for the Catholic Church to reform and come to their senses, i.e., Readon is above Revelation.

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      Before we get smug about it let us consider what some buddhists consider “unethical conversion” of their brethren by various evangelical christian churches. There has been violence committed against these preachers and also the poor people who have embraced these new religions. I have heard many in Sri Lanka try to justify this kind of acts. So killing for apostacy is not a hundred miles away in Buddhist Sri Lanka too. These kinds of religious turf wars seem common in our uncivilised part of the world.

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      Dr. Ameer Ali,

      RE: Wahhabi Salafi Orthodoxy & An Apostate

      May be the eighteen year old apostate, Rafa al-Qunun from Saudi Arabia, should take part in the third annual Women’s March in Canada.

      On Jan. 19, women in US cities and around the globe will gather for the third annual Women’s March. In so doing, whether they know it or not, they’ll be following in the footsteps of Mahapajapati Gotami—a feminist from ancient India born in 600 BC, and the aunt and foster mother of Siddhārtha Gotama, best known as the Buddha, writes Ephrat Livni in the Quartz.

      “This was the first women’s rights march in recorded history,” writes Pema Khandro Rinpoche in the Buddhist publication Lion’s Roar.

      https://www.lionsroar.com/power-buddhism/?utm_content=buffer2f03a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

      This was before the Wahhabi Salafi Orthodoxy appeared in the scene

      However, Buddha did not think much of women. Just read up on what Buddha told Ananda about women. Avoid them

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    Dr. Ameer Ali,

    “Rafa al-Qunun from Saudi Arabia, who renounced Islam, ran away from her family” – The modern tactics of Islam haters is to damage Islam using Saudi Arabia and Wahabism by another Muslim on some payment. Please check your bank account, sorry I mean check that girl’s back account for some extra money.

    When a SL Tamil is getting asylum showing non-existent problems to enroll in a “Get-Rich-Quicker” scheme, it is super easy for a Saudi girl without any economic issues to be considered for an asylum by EU govts, given the fact that they don’t fully understand Saudi systems due to language barrier.

    I was talking to a Sri Lankan guy in Jeddah, who said the girl was in love with a European guy who was rejected by her family – Would you please check on the issue from this angle and give us some correct info in your next post?

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      Even if the girl had not been in love just any question about the government line is enough to throw her in Jail.
      Unfortunately, people like M. Sajjad will keep the Saudi orthodoxy burning, and make it even worse with time.
      There are, and there have been many moderate, civilized forms of Islam. Other religions and Judaism flourished in Islamic Spain, and under the Moguls in India. My own form of Islam, led by His Highness the Agha Khan is such a form of Islam. In Sri Lanka, the Saudis are giving money to politicians who tow their line, send young people to Saudi training, build Universities where extrimists will teach. They are also responsible for bringing in illegals and settling them in various places including the Wilpattu to increase the number of votes they command – This is not Islam

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      Look at this fake Arab low caste immigrant Indian Tamil convert, spitting out venom and hate towards the Sri Lankan Tamils and involving them in issues that are not related. Shows how much these fake Arab Wahhabi Indian Tamil low caste converts hate the Sri Lankan Tamils and want to destroy them and steal their land for Wahhabism. Getting asylum in a western country is not easy. Most western countries were aware that the ethnic Sri Lankan Tamils were indeed persecuted and were facing horrific discrimination , this is why over a million were granted asylum and refugee status in the west ,not even the Syrians or others were granted asylum in these numbers. They also kenw that Sri Lankan Tamils will make good and ideal citizens and other than in a few instances, this has largely proven correct. Muslims cause trouble and they really do nit want them. You just plain jealous this all. Many Sri Lankan Muslims seek asylum in western countries, claiming to be ethnic Tamil Muslims from Sri Lanka( sic Tamil when it suits these fake Arab Wahhabi converted low caste Indian Tamil immigrants) fleeing Sinhalese persecution , when in reality they were hands in glove with the Sinhalese and co partner’s in the Eelam Tamil genocide. Tamil when it suits them and Tamil haters at all other times , wanting to destroy their own Tamil culture in the name of Islam/Wahhabism and a fake Arab origin. Many of the refugee boats arriving in Australia contained lots of Sinhalese , Sri Lankan Muslims and Indian origin Tamils , all claiming to be ethnic Sri Lankan Tamils from the NE fleeing persecution. Stop involving us and posting hate messages us, converted low caste from South India.

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        Mr. Siva Sankaran Sharma,

        Grown up and high caste people don’t lose their cool, if something doesn’t apply to them.

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      M. Sajjad: “I was talking to a Sri Lankan guy in Jeddah, who said the girl was in love with a European guy who was rejected by her family…”

      M. Sajjad:- are you sure the girl was in love with a European guy ? I thought he was Canadian :)

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      M. Sajjad “….When a SL Tamil is getting asylum…”

      what has this go to do with Sri Lankan Tamil?
      I know lots of Sri Lankan Sinhalease getting asylum showing non-existent problems….a problem they call Gota….

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        Rajesh ,

        Had Lasantha, Ekliyagods and others got asylum, they would have been alive outside Sri Lanka. This girl is trying to get asylum and stay alive. The reason is not Gota, but Wahhabi-Salafism and the Orthodoxy,

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      Sajjad,

      We are born into different religions by chance and not by choice. Religions are the bane of world society today and we would be better off without a religion. If every human being under the Sun just follows the law of the land that he lives in we don’t need any religions to teach us what is right and wrong.

      Everything is written in Black & White in the Penal Code, whichever country it may be. Just follow the law and let religion lay by the wayside.

      It is said that Hinduism is 10,000 years old, and we know that Buddhism is 2500 plus years old, Christianity is about 2020 years old, with Islam tagging along at around 1,400 plus years at the rear.

      All these so called religions have done sweet nothing for the people of this world, because we are still a bunch of murderers, rapists, child molesters, rogues, ruffians, jealousy cocks, and every other nefarious “Accolade” we could identify ourselves with.

      So why the hell do we need a religion? To go to heaven, NO there is no such thing because it is just folklore and nothing else. When we die and are buried it is SIX FEET UNDER………Kaput end of story.

      I am not interested in going to that elusive heaven, hence my life is very uncomplicated.

      Incidentally I was born into a family that practiced Islam but I don’t believe or follow it as I am the least bothered where I end up after I am dead and buried.

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        But only Islam guarantee paradise to a Muslim with 27 virgins and grapes if he killed an Infidel? How is this.?

        No human being knows what is heaven and where is this place only Islam talk.

        Religion is a private matter.

        Why the hell a non-muslim must convert if he likes to marry a Muslim girl a real joke.

        Something wrong somewhere thanks for the internet ….bubble is burst even Saudi girls are becoming smart.

        Cheers

        Cheers

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      M Sajjad,

      Q1. Was Religion invented by man/woman?

      Q2. Which came first? Man/woman or God?

      Q3. Do you have any reasonable and acceptable support for your answers to the first two questions? Just curious.

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        Amarasir,

        Ha..ha… I never knew that saying “Tamils seek asylum on fake reasons” would earn me a religious scholar sort of a respect…and a few enemies too…

        I am a hedonist, sorry no time to research on these stuff.

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          M. Sajjad “I am a hedonist”….so you another one who seeks pleasure at the expense of Tamils/ridiculing of Tamils/warmongering of Tamils etc etc

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            Hello Mr. Rajash,

            “ridiculing of Tamils” – I never ridicule people of any community, or caste and no one has the right to do that. Meanwhile, I do stand by what I have said, and I have a very few known cases to support it. So, what is the problem in saying the fact?. Did I say that all Tamils land EU/AU like that? Why are so many people jumping up and down on that?

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              @M.Sajjad

              He He He do you know even Muslims from Kandy coming to west asking political asylum together with Muslims bruders in N-E this is not just a few ..but hundreds.

              What is the problem for Muslims? If the ruling party is green they will change the cap when it is blue they will change cap.

              Your Muslims bruders say that they are also Tamils hehe he to obtain refugee status.
              Many married to infidel porc eating white women for resident permits no Haram?

              Cheers

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          M Sajjad,,

          Q1. Was Religion invented by man/woman?

          Q2. Which came first? Man/woman or God?

          You did not reply to my questions 1, 2 and 3 Would like to know what your thoughts were, because the answers differ widely, and independent of one’s ethnicity or race

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      Sajjad the Islamic infidel, Islam is a barbaric religion by modern standards. Muslims are flattening the earth to make it in line with Koranic teaching that the earth is flat. There is nothing to damage Islam when it is already in the dustbin of history.

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        Al-faqurlah,
        If you wouldn’t mind, can the matured minds with right IQ collide and enjoy some arguments please? Will call you when the elections are announced, and then you may come with “paappa baldhi” and brush.

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    Ameer Ali: Why did Khasshogi go to Turkey instead of going to QATAR or to Saudi Arabian embassy in USA. where is his body. what if other countries to set fire on the relationship between turkey and Saudi Arabia if they tried to come close. How About Trump did now want his business affairs to come to the open before the elelction is ovr.
    At one time point, Roman Catholcs were a Terroor and was a challenge to the world, at least to the europe. Now, they have over 41,000 groups. Now they are only business groups. Already ‘Islam too is devided and one day come to some equilibrium.

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    Sinhala Buddhist Fundamentalists are not different to Islamic Fundamentalists in killing other faith holders.
    Protecting the vulnerable society or ethnic groups is an essential component of Democracy. One cannot commit crimes against Humanity saying It’s their sovereign state. International Court of Judiciary should take up more cases eg Myanmar Sri Lanka etc etc

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      How many have the Sinhalese Buddhists killed? How many have the Tamil LTTE killed? They have killed Muslims while in Prayer. They have “ethnically cleansed” the North although the North belongs to Mulsim People who were the main residents there when Sri Lanka became a crown colony under the British, as fully documented by Captain Percival who lived in Jaffna during 1800 to about 1820, and reported that the majority were Muslims .
      The Tamils have killed more Tamils than all the Dutugamunus and Sinhala armies put together, as stated and shown by Sebastian Rasalingam (see JBS Jeyaraj):
      http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/201

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        Oh really ! Muslim home guards with the help of the Sri Lankan armed forces burned killed and destroyed hundreds of Tamil Hindus in the Batticaloa and Amparai districts. Many Tamil civilians fleeing Muslim home guard violence took refuge in the local temple and these Muslim home guards locked them up inside the temple and burned them alive. Google and read all the gory details. Muslims praying at the Kattankudi mosque were attacked by the LTTE , don’ t make me laugh. The Kattankudi mosque was a hot bed of Islamic extremism and still is. Wahhabi/Salafist preachers from various parts of the world and preach their extremist ideology to the local Muslim population , that they have been brainwashed now to think that , they are now some sort of Gulf Arabs and not South Asians . They have even changed Kattankudi to look like some part the of the Arabian Gulf and not Sri Lankan Tamil east. All the name boards are in Arabic.

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        contd: Muslim home guards used to hide their arms in inside the Katankudi Mosque and come here to pray for Allah’s blessing and retrieve their arms , before attacking the neighbouring Tamil Hindu villages , this is why the LTTE attacked the Mosque and also for what happened in the rest of the east and in Kattankudi where a Hindu temple was deliberately destroyed. Do not distort facts. The LTTE killed around 3000 civilians the most , largely t Sinhalese and Muslim criminals and thugs masquerading as civilians. The Sinhalese and Muslim like dover 300000 innocent Tamil civilians. Stop lying. The LTTE chased the Muslims from the north ,as they were caught spying for the Sri Lankan armed forces and storing arms in mosques. They did not want a repeat of what happened in the east to the Tamils in the north. As for the Tamil Jaffna kingdom predominating with Muslims and not Hindu Tamils , don’t make me laugh. If you want to lie, state something believable. Whether you are a Wahhabi or Agha Khani you are still a Tamil Hindu hating Islamic extremist who has forgotten is Dravidian Tamil South Indian roots

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          RSSS,
          Your LTTE was a well-funded group with cowardice tactics and approaches. When SL Army pounded them, they took revenge on innocent women and children in Colombo. When Muslim home-guards attacked them, they went and killed the innocent unarmed men praying. And finally they forced all Muslims to get our of North within hours. Then they used women as bombs, children as shoulders – finally the leader got kill after getting caught alive. What better name can we call them than cowards?
          =
          you talk as if there have not been any civilian kiilings committed by LTTE

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            @ ghk

            When your guys in KATTANKUDI called for prayer at midnight request the jokers to assemble at mosques with weapons to attack neighboring village is civilized ???

            Card Board Sinhala Army even today piss if there was no support from 134 countries.

            Your Muslim home guards ( many can’t even read and write) invade Tamil villages butcher people and loot them you thought others will watch and laugh.

            What LTTE gave to Muslims is they return your own medicine.

            Look at Eastern Province today Muslims are doing as they wish when the cat is not there rats are dancing. Even news is coming about force conversion of Tamil students by Muslim teachers. Tell them not to jump too much.

            If a Thoppi is Governer (????) he is not a God ,

            Talk Tamil at home but doing all against Tamils. Why the hell you speak Arabic and get lost. A person who speaks Tamil at home is a Tamil.

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              chola,

              “Your Muslim home guards ( many can’t even read and write) invade Tamil villages butcher people and loot them you thought others will watch and laugh”

              Thank god, at least now you understood. Can we withdraw the fake HR cases against SL forces now with you consent?

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                @ghk

                Your Muslims guard has no backbone to enter Tamil villages.. simply they were in front and SL Sinhala Card Army followed and share the loot.

                Your Muslims who live because of trade go to Tamils villages and started spying for SL Sinhala State for the monthly salary. This is why Muslims were chased out from North,

                Live among Tamils ..speak Tamil at home but Thoppies are traitors.

                Go and see the East sign board are in Arabic what are these idiots think Arabs are their grandfathers?

                Stop speak Tamil at home start speak Arab.

                BTW Arabs treat Asian Muslims as shits because they know these are all converts and pretend like Muslims.

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              chola,

              “Even news is coming about force conversion of Tamil students by Muslim teachers. Tell them not to jump too much”

              I know in the past you guys converted to learn English. Are they interested in learning some Quran or Arabic nowadays?

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                @ghk

                HeHeHe
                No Tamils will learn Koran (carbon copy of Jewish TORA) and learn Arabic and go back to 4th century. A sect require 4 Muslim witnesses to prove the rape ..he he he
                this was possible when Arab barbarians live under a tent ..how it is suitable if a girl is raped in high rise apartments? No answer in Holy Buk still Ulamah are searching,

                Even young Saudi girls are running away from Isulam a fanatic religion suitable for 4th-century barbarians.If Saudi wants to keep their people under Isulam let them go back to pre-1935 living, there was no Saudi Arabia then.

                English is an International language no need to convert to learn it…maybe conversion a rule to learn Arabic a language which got alphabet only in 6th century.

                Already Iranians in Holland are converting into Christianity ..a religion saved their life and gave food, lodgings, and security when 6 times prayers never helped this is why Millions of Muslims are begging at western borders.

                Cheers

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          “The LTTE killed around 3000 civilians the most , largely t Sinhalese and Muslim criminals and thugs masquerading as civilians” did LTTE have some special technology that we did not know to differentiate between the innocent and the thugs.. the attack on Sri Maha Bodhiya killed a lot of women, children and elderly as well , either you were born recently or you just woke up from a long slumber. The demons hacked thousands to death with machetes in the border villages, mostly Sinhalese. This included pregnant mothers and their unborn children. Did LTTE have a way to determine the future of these unborn children. Such an illiterate you are !

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      Naman every religion, race, cult have extreme elements.
      The difference between Buddhism and Islam is that Buddhism never teach killing/violence/terror to the followers. In Islam, killing/violence/terror and hate are written many times in it’s scripture.
      See Chapter 3.151 (see different transitions but intention is the terror.)

      Sahih International: We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.
      Pickthall: We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve because they ascribe unto Allah partners, for which no warrant hath been revealed. Their habitation is the Fire, and hapless the abode of the wrong-doers.
      Yusuf Ali: Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the Fire: And evil is the home of the wrong-doers!
      Shakir: We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.
      Muhammad Sarwar: We shall cause terror to enter the hearts of the faithless for their considering things equal to God without authoritative evidence. Their abode will be fire, a terrible dwelling for the unjust.
      Mohsin Khan: We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they joined others in worship with Allah, for which He had sent no authority; their abode will be the Fire and how evil is the abode of the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong¬doers).
      Arberry: We will cast into the hearts of the unbelievers terror, for that they have associated with God that for which He sent down never authority; their lodging shall be the Fire; evil is the lodging of the evildoers.

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    UK also had a similar problem in which mullahs come to different mosques and preached drstructive ideology. Then UK waited he preaches something against USA and then deported him. Now he is rotting insidea USA prison. Sri lankan has to have such litigation abilities for everybody including the Muslims who invite them. Sri lanka has that probkem for decades and that is letting many Evangelist and muslim clerics. We have a different culture. they think everybody is european culture.

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    Dr A A
    As usual a very cogent write-up.
    Saudi oil and the historical post world war 2 American influence and “dominance” of that country protected their “desert culture” and petrol wealth together with their strict interpretation of ISLAM.

    With democracy beginning to spread all over the world, together with the discovery of different forms of “energy” to replace petrol to protect the planet Saudi thinking and practice will undoubtedly change for the better; much more freedom for the Saudi women and rightly so.

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      Sarrij,

      “With democracy beginning to spread all over the world, together with the discovery of different forms of “energy” to rep…”

      If that happens, more than half the Saudis will be happy. If there is democracy in Saudi Arabia, the very first thing will happen is our over 600,000 workers will be sent back along with rest of the South-Asians. Not sure if you know, as it is Saudis are fighting for jobs and asking employers to send foreigners back home. It is because of monarch the poor countries have an opportunity there as the rulers ignore their people’s demands.

      At present, if workers come back, in a country like ours, one section will double the state-sector making us pay more taxes to pay their salaries for sitting idle, another section will go on putting up “barota” shops on all possible road-sides making rest of the people unhealthy, while another section will keep trying to make those human-traffickers richer

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      @Sarrij
      I think you’re talking out of ignorance. Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia or lived/worked there? if you did, you won’t write like this.

      Millions of expats from many parts of the world with different religious faith & culture are living & earning their bread & butter from this land of bounties, even recent statistics from SLFEB indicates there is a surge in the number of Lanka Domestic Workers to Saudi . KSA is a “culture of prosperity” not desert culture as you put it. Remember the holy Prophets have prayed for the prosperity of this great land and it is benefiting humanity today without discrimination.

      How the Rulers of KSA are running the affairs of the Kingdom is not our business, leave that to the Creator. When you comment next time think twice please.

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    M. Sajjad “….When a SL Tamil is getting asylum…”

    what has this go to do with Sri Lankan Tamil?
    I know lots of Sri Lankan Sinhalease getting asylum showing non-existent problems….a problem they call Gota….

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    the writer says:
    “Men are permitted to have multiple wives and concubines, but women cannot have multiple husbands or boyfriends”.

    Saudi Law do permit men to have multiple wives – but who told you concubines are lawful there? which religion or society in the world permits a woman to have multiple husbands? if a woman or girl is having multiple boyfriends then she must be engaging in the world’s oldest profession ! get real man.

    In your quest for writing on a given subject, do not exaggerate and write inappropriately in your keenness to play to a certain theater.

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      M. Jabir….if a woman or girl is having multiple boyfriends then she must be engaging in the world’s oldest profession ! get real man.

      “Saudi Law do permit men to have multiple wives…..”

      Saudi Law does not permit men to have multiple wives.

      Saudi Law only allows Saudi men to have multiple Saudi wives…

      Saudi Law allows only Saudi men to engaging be in the world’s oldest profession !
      Saudi men can f women of any nationality under
      get real man.

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    M. Jabir….if a woman or girl is having multiple boyfriends then she must be engaging in the world’s oldest profession ! get real man.

    “Saudi Law do permit men to have multiple wives…..”

    Saudi Law does not permit men to have multiple wives.

    Saudi Law only allows Saudi men to have multiple Saudi wives…

    Saudi Law allows only Saudi men to engaging be in the world’s oldest profession !
    Saudi men can f women of any nationality under
    get real man.

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    Dear Dr Ameer Ali,

    Yet another good very topical article. Well done. I even learnt a new word “orthopraxy”. Hope I spelt it right!

    You see I am a good student always keen to learn. But are you?

    But Dr Ameer Ali you are always dodging the Islamic destruction of Nalanda Buddhist University by your blood thirsty fellow Muslims who burnt University libraries, beheaded thousands of Buddhist monks who were practising ahimsa, medicine, fine arts etc. and don’t forget destruction of Vikramasila or Valabi either. (and grabbing of Kuragala, Deegawapi, Dewangala)

    More topics to come on your blood thirsty fellow Muslims which you never cover you just sweep them under the carpet!

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      Dear GoodStudent,
      Apparently your good ‘studentship’ has been wasted on reading material which are incorrect and a highly prejudiced and propogandist. The story of Nalanda University being desecrated has been bandied about both locally and in India to shift the blame away from the Brahmins. Read what Professor DN Jha, a former Professor of the Department of History, University of Delhi has to say on this incident

      , in the article ‘Grist to the reactionary mill’(Indian Express, July 9, 2014), on destruction of Nalanda University, quotes that: ‘Tibetan monk and scholar, Taranatha, writes inHistory of Buddhism in India’ : ‘During the consecration of the temple built by Kakutsiddha at Nalendra [Nalanda] “the young naughty sramanas threw slops at the two tirthika beggars and kept them pressed inside door panels and set ferocious dogs on them”. Angered by this, one of them went on arranging for their livelihood and the other sat in a deep pit and “engaged himself in surya sadhana” [solar worship] , first for nine years and then for three more years and having thus “acquired mantrasiddhi” he “performed a sacrifice and scattered the charmed ashes all around” which “immediately resulted in a miraculously produced fire”, consuming all the eighty four temples and the scriptures some of which, however, were saved by water flowing from an upper floor of the nine storey Ratnodadhi temple’. (History of Buddhism in India,written in the 17th century, English tr. Lama Chimpa & Alka Chattopadhyaya, summary of page 141-42).This should mean, he continues, that ‘the idea of Brahminical hostility to the religion of the Buddha traveled to Tibet fairly early and became part of its Buddhist tradition, and found expression in the 17th-18th century Tibetan writings’

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      (…..cont’d)
      A number of other Indian scholars like R K Mookerji (Education in Ancient India), Sukumar Dutt (Buddhist Monks and Monasteries of India), Buddha Prakash (Aspects of Indian History and Civilization), and S C Vidyabhushana who interpreted the text, viewed that it refers to an actual “scuffle between the Buddhist and Brahmanical mendicants and the latter, being infuriated, propitiated the Sun god for twelve years, performed a fire- sacrifice and threw the living embers and ashes from the sacrificial pit into the Buddhist temples which eventually destroyed the great library at Nalanda called Ratnodadhi’ (History of Indian Logic, page 516 as cited by D R Patil,The Antiquarian Remains in Bihar, page 327). Scholars named above were all polymaths of unimpeachable academic honesty and integrity.
      As regards uprooting of Buddhism there are various theories put forward which seek to explain the tragic eclipse. Even today Gaya is oftenly in news as Buddhists are still struggling to wrest control of their most holy shrine. The age-old conflict between Buddhism and Brahminism, it seems, is yet to be resolved.
      But the effort to associate Bakhtiyar Khalji with the destruction and burning of the University of Nalanda and of the uprooting of Buddhism from its place of birth is a glaring example of the wilful distortion of history. Certainly such biased historians and their ilk are always free to falsify historical data but this only reveals the lack of any serious historical exercise.The truth is sacrosanct and history needs to be preserved and presentation without making it a victim of the prejudices of any kind.
      Quoted from an article written by is Mr. Ansari is Secretary of Peace Foundation, Patna and he can be reached at E-mail : peacefoundationbihar@gmail.com

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      Good Student

      “But Dr Ameer Ali you are always dodging the Islamic destruction of Nalanda Buddhist University by your blood thirsty fellow Muslims who burnt University libraries, beheaded thousands of Buddhist monks who were practising ahimsa, medicine, fine arts etc”

      Did the Sinhala -“Buddhists’ learn from the Muslims who destroyed the Nalanda University Library, to destroy the Jaffna Library? Did they learn from the Muslims to kill the Tamils during 1958, 1977, 1977 and during the war?

      List of destroyed libraries

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_destroyed_libraries

      Libraries have been deliberately or accidentally destroyed or badly damaged. Sometimes a library is purposely destroyed as a form of cultural cleansing, like Nalanda and Jaffna

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    More Muslims are killed by the Muslims. Look at Libya, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Palestine, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, kenia, Mali. Man who slaughter the innocent say “Allahu Akbar” and the man who are dying also say “Allahu Akbar “. 1975 my friend who is an Indian Walter to marry white American girl. But parents did not allow him. Many times his mother who is a doctor came to our apartment to check on his son. Asked me weather his son is inside but lied to her because his mother violated his basic rights. All these are happening because they believe that their religion is the best.

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    Muslims in different Areas worship Lord buddha, God vishnu, Goddess PAthini, and God Dedimunda (Equivalent to God Saintpeter in christianity) and, “I suppose many other gods and goddesses as Allahs. They know it byt they do not say it openly. I heard some where they worship even the Vagina (that was a prehispotirc custom and I think Indians do). Anyway, another Group of Arabs destroyed every culture including their own in the name of allah and the Quran when Mohommad was for PEace.

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    This obsessive faith thing makes it look primitive and ancient.

    Goes to show man is just as irrational as any other species. Due to our deep insecurities and tribalism we cling to faith and indulge in absurd rituals.

    Ultimately we all suffer and die by 80 ! There is heaven or hell only an unlimited imagination in the minds of foolish people.

    But using this stupidity, plenty of chaps, sheiks and so on, have a good ride while living

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    Strange how Sinhalese Buddhist Fascists and Sri Lankan Wahhabi extremists, start attacking the island’s Tamils , when criticism is levelled at them from members of their own communities. Tamils have nothing to do with these criticism and have no connection to these issues, be it caste issues amongst the Sinhalese or Sinhalese Buddhist extremist or racism . In the case of Muslims religious extremism . However somehow they find a way to connect all these to the Tamils , the Tamil diaspora , the LTTE , with fabrications and fake stories and start attacking the Tamils , to divert attention from the issue. Notice they are very careful not to attack each other or involve each other just the Tamils as they feel the Tamils are powerless and can be used as punching bags and scape goats for everything. At least the Sinhalese speak another language and belong to another ethnicity now , despite the vast majority of them having recent Tamil ancestry . However these Sri Lankan Muslims speak Tamils and are of Tamil ethnicity but still attack their fellow non Muslim Tamils in the name of Islam and an imagined Arab ancestry , that only a few of them partially have. Making their behaviour even more disgusting. What has Islam got to do with being an Arab? It is a religion not an ethnicity or synonymous with Arabism and Arab culture.

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    Dr. Ameer Ali,
    .
    “If family abuse was the main grievance the girl could have just run away without renouncing Islam. Why did she renounce both? “
    .
    To claim asylum, torture and risk to the life are the options. Renouncing Islam in Saudi Arabia automatically brings her that eligibility – This is just my opinion and one way of looking at things that you missed.

    I hope the West won’t make her another useless piece to be a Nobel Peace prize winner like in the case of Pakistani girl, Malala. while there were too many eligible people around that time. In fact, I also feared that MY3 will bag a Nobel too looking at the way EU leaders shook hands with him in the early days.

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    Emotional action, self control

    Killing Mother, Mother killing child father killing child no religion accepts why is it happening.
    it read in the news now a days. Your mood turns super negative and your brain starts overthinking Expanded Grief Screening Inventory The head of the family must be under control. Every surprizes happens in all countries.

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    Well said Dr Ameer. Until and unless Islam opens its eyes from these backward thinking and ancient believes there is no hope for Islam unless the whole world becomes totally blind and gullible. Yes, brother Sajaad is there once again with his blind belief and faith and anyone who has a vision is an enemy to him. He is, as expected, casting aspersion at that poor desperate girl. My hats off to her. I have experienced this before where young ladies from Saudi and other Arab countries visit moderate countries for the first time to see that there is a wider and broader world outside these blind nations and where these youngsters could walk as equals and exhibit their potentials without any oppression. how long this religion is going to oppress women and force down the throats of people the beliefs that are totally outdated or unacceptable. How can they escape from these people who have no ability to think on their own and totally rely on “what Quran had said”. I Colombo and elsewhere you see so many women are forced to wear this black garb that is totally unacceptable, unscientific and unhealthy. Then why not Muslim men too to wear this garb like women? Coming to women, as Bro Sajaad said it is to prevent the Muslim women from being seen by men and that too sexually. If so why not lock them up like what the Taliban did?

    Come on guys, no doubt we need religions as a quality control measure but not abuse it or use it foolishly for your own advantage. Islam uses the religion only for the Mens needs and advantages. High time they review their beliefs. This is not against Islam but against stupidity.

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    Rohan, I see your point. But what does it matter if they speak Tamil or they are of Tamil origin? What matters is survival. It is more beneficial for them to go after the Sinhalese despite all the bashing unless Tamils become a majority. It is pure survival instinct. In fact some of the top Tamil scholars in S:L and India are Muslims and they have extensively contributed to the growth of Tamil. So think of those men and woman who see where justice is. But sadly in SL it is a different setup. But the bottom line is that all know what is happening but yet life has to go on.

    Every time Muslims are attacked many of us felt sad and angry because it is inhuman. But the other way round when tamils are attacked it is blessing in disguise for material benefit.

    But let us face reality in this cruel world.

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    MABROOK……Rafa al-Qunun . Blessings for a happy, peaceful and a prosperous future ‘Inshallah!’
    From an expat….in Dhaharan 1978/1984.

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    Dr Ali writes

    In short, women in Saudi Arabia are virtually second class citizens…..

    Virtually! In reality Women in the Kingdom are chattels.

    And the majority of Saudi men believe that that status should not change.

    The road to change will be long and winding.

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    Religion is illusion, religion is paranoid. There is no correlation between religion and reason. People meticulously follow the reason in science but not in the religion. We do many stupid things in the name of God. It is taught and learned behavior. Billion people are going to Ganges river to cleanse their sin. Then God created other rivers are garbages? People do million things for God which have no sense. It is very hard to relearn.

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    So lets compare and contrast.

    Muttawa’s influence how the Saudi’s live.
    Hamudurowo’s influence how the Sri Lankans live.

    Muttawa’s hold the Saudi Royals by their scrotum.
    Hamudurowo’s hold our government by their hairy rambutans.

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      Spring Koha,
      Agreed. But you forgot to say how the casteism influences Tamil lives.

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        ghk

        Correct!
        and further I will add that our own Catholics are expected to dance to a tune played by Cardinal Malcolm Ranjith who has forgotten what God he prays to.

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    The responsibility of unbelievers, non believers and non Muslims (whom the Muslims cling on to like parasites for their existence) is to phase out Islam from the modern civilization with least physical damage to the brainwashed. This latter requirement will prolong the processes into a couple of centuries.

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    Ameer Ali

    There you go again Ameer Ali with your diatribe against Islam in general and Wahabiism in particular making use of the tragic experience of a young girl running away from her family which has been sensationalised by the Media only because the girl is from Saudi Arabia. Is she the only girl in the world running away from the family?

    Do you know how many kids go missing in Australia every year? The estimate is 20,000 kids annually. The kids keep running away from their homes in the USA, Canada, UK, Germany and other advanced countries in tens of thousands every year. No one talks about it. But when a kid from Saudi runs away, the Media goes crazy and for you, it is an opportunity to throw insults at Saudi Arabia and Islam.

    And, you have to bring in Khashoggi also. Do you know that 780 journalists have been killed since 2006 with 101 in 2015 and 74 in 2016? Of course, the majority, 2/3rds, have been killed in war zones. Of the countries at peace, Mexico is regarded as hell for journalists with 9 killed in 2016. But for you, Only Khashoggi’s murder matters for you to repeat that and blame even the ACJU in your earlier article for not condemning it!

    Man, for a man who is highly qualified, you are so prejudiced that you are devoid of objectivity. You seem to display a Total Disregard for Facts and are only concerned about your myopic idea of relentlessly attacking Saudi Arabia and Islam. I know you were born in a Muslim family in Kattankudy and carry the Muslim name your parents gave you, but, purely going by your Islamophobic writings, one wonders whether you are still a Muslim.

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    Rafa Al-Qunun is an anonymous, one and only girl who denounced Islam!!!!! Denouncing Islam is the one and only feat she has achieved throughout her life!!!!
    Consequence of the said achievement here-under:
    She became the talk of the world
    For the last one week or so, the headlines of prime media channels such as BBC, CNN, Independence, Reuters, covered her story.
    All of a sudden, UNO came forward to protect her rights and existence.
    Her entire needs and requirements were met at a lightning speed.
    World’s powerful leaders twitted more than 300 times highlighting this incident
    Many countries extended their consent to provide her with immediate shelter.
    Canada made the pioneer initiation.
    Now she has been honored as an asylum seeker in Canada.
    Canada has become a safe haven to her.
    Most of the famous international medias were in competition in publishing the headlines in the below nature:
    Rafa is scared….
    Rafa seeks help…
    Rafa sleeps in the hotel room…
    Rafa turns right..Rafa turns left..
    Rafa boards the plane….
    Rafa heads to Canada…
    Rafa arrives Canada….
    The Western media that made a huge attention to this isolated incident, involving this Saudi Arabian Girl, failed to give considerable attention to the atrocities perpetrated worldwide. During this period of time, the world witnessed the immense atrocities committed by the Israeli, American and Syrian forces.
    During those five days below incidents shattered the peaceful surroundings of the world:
    Hundreds of Small Children in Syrian Refugee Camps died owing to the severe freezing weather condition

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      What is wrong about the news and support of Al-Qunun?

      No worry world media give daily coverage of murders by Muslim Bruders.

      Hundred Thousand of Al-Qunun in Saudi Arabia like to flee how can you punish a Muslim girl who studies on the internet and compare Islam with other religions?

      How long are you going to fool your own people in Kattankudy now Muslim girls watch blue films on the internet inside closed door only one was scratched.

      Why Muslims are not allowed to read about other religion. must use Sony and Samsung phones to know what is best even though both make big advertisements.

      Religion is a private matter every individual has the right to choose the best.

      Tell your Muslim Bruder Prince of Saudi Arabia not to kill innocent Yemenis and tell your Iranian bruders not to kill Syrians …where is US and Israel come here.?

      It is the infidel Germany took 1.5 Million Muslims who ran away to save lives…will Saudi Arabia take at least 100 Ethiopian and Eritrean Christians as refugees?

      Well, you don’t know how to make weapons so you have to buy from infidels,
      because of swords..green flags..camels rea not suitable for today.

      Cheers

      Cheers

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        Cholan,

        Brother, why have you got so mad and seem to be boiling inside? I know,,I know… because of Saudi and other Arab country income, MR could better equip the brave soldiers to teach you a lesson?

        You know why many innocent Tamils still praise SL Govt? While diaspora kids study in foreign lands, poor Tamil kids in Jaffna had to carry AK47 to make sure to keep the war on-going for asylum renewals and EU/AU. Selfish and hypocrites, never worries about the other lives

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    What we all should blame is not Islam. We should blame the world’s discrimination on human lives based on one’s citizenship and what satisfies US and the West’s hidden agendas.

    Our lives have become so cheap in front of US and the West’s eyes that even a boat full of SL Tamils get killed, it is just another news item of few seconds.

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    I have noticed that when Muslims are faced with a problem the last thing they do is praying to Allah.

    Soma

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      Osama, Saddam Hussain, Gadafi all prayed 6 times per day…pity their God couldn’t save them.

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        Chola,
        “Osama, Saddam Hussain, Gadafi all prayed 6 times per day…pity their God couldn’t save them”

        Maybe there was a Mahinda there to send back the God at the airport itself?

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      soma,
      Even non-Muslim doctors ask a patient’s relative to do the same as “last thing” in countries like SL, India and other Asian.
      .
      But what is your billion dollar point here?

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        I mean why don’t they awail themselves of the readily available help.

        Soma

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      soma

      We pray 5 times a day and first thing in morning.

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      somass

      “I have noticed that when Muslims are faced with a problem the last thing they do is praying to Allah.”

      You pray to Dr Mahinda.
      Dr Mahinda prays to Tirupati Venkateswara.

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    Isulam was created to correct the uncivilized Arabs who were lived like barbarians…if anyone thinks this 4th-century cult is suitable for the 21st century they must examine their head.

    All these days Muslims were kept in dark even not allowed to know about other religions but the bubble burst after internet revolution this is the reason this Saudi Girl (not the first one) who is a daughter of a governor abandon Isulam and ran away to an infidel country.

    With the availability of internet Muslims, girls not only show their private body parts on social media but also read about other religions and culture stone age minded Saudis / Arabs can`t now do anything the lid is open now. Young Muslims are reading on lines and compare their miserable life preached by Isulam ( carbon copy of Tora ) and come to the modern world.

    Suppose if this girl had sent back to this barbaric country they would have cut her into pieces. Not a single Islamic country protested the Saudis for their butchering of Kassoghi in religious method using equipment and chemicals from infidels.

    In the name of Isulam madness reached to the peak …in Malaysia now halal trolly for Muslims ( soon halal toilet ) …in schools separate canteen ..above all Muslims cant greet non Muslims students and touching hands is haram.

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    Cholan..

    Your Gods have been saving all criminals.. All these are criminals like that of Prabakran, Hitler and others. for you God must act as you like to fulfil worldly desires as you like.

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      Lankan 9

      Why your best god couldn’t save Osama …Saddam…Gadaafi criminals of this century responsible for the death of Millions of their own Muslims .

      Why your God allowed Iraqi girls and women to sell themselves just for bread in Jordan.Lebanon ..Turkey?

      Do you know this sale is going in all European refugee camps where Muslims are housed?

      Infidel security guardes are the deal makers.

      No Pain ? No Shame?

      Open Pakistan and Indonesian social media and see how Muslim girls show the full body.

      Fail of religion?

      A few months ago one Malaysian 48 year Mowlavi married a 11 years girl as 3rd wive do you know under modern law this is rape? Not a single Muslim party protested this saying this is allowed by their teacher.

      Will you marry your 11 yrs girl to 50 years, man ?

      Cheers

      Cheers

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    Muslims pray 5 times a day.
    Same Muslims lie every 5 minutes.
    Of course not ethnic issue sure the religious issue.Because Muslims all over the world are excellent liers.

    All the best for al-Qunon , soon many of her Saudi sisters will follow here.

    Her God let her down in her own God`s land.

    Cheers

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      Chola,

      “Her God let her down in her own God`s land” – I have seen even the barbarians who killed so many innocent women and kids also went down in their own land…

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        @ghk

        It is the Tamil speaking Musulims praised Murderpakse and his cardboard army.

        You guys change the caps according to the wind and happy with any governments.

        See what happened it is because of Tamils Ronil is back but Tamils were not interested in minister posts this is the difference.

        Brave soldiers he he he Sinhala cardboard Army pissed for 30 years when they heard the name LTTE and never had the courage to face LTTE alone ..in Islam this is bravery.???

        Cheers

        PS: Why don’t you like to write your name full scared????

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          If Dr. Ameer Ali expressed his refreshing and welcome views freely as he does here in one of those medieval-like Arabic societies, he would have either been stabbed by a shrieking mob of religious fanatics, shot, dismembered and his remains dissolved in acid – standard fare in Turkey, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Pakistan, Egypt, Afghanistan or one of those many countries in the world where crazed Islamic zealots run riot currently screaming Allah U Akbar – in the name of Islam. Religiously conservative Europe in the earlier centuries was more tolerant of the German Philosopher-Priest-Reformer Martin Luther when he challenged the very might of the Roman Catholic Church and the many European countries under the Church. Other great religions evolved in modern times on a platform of free thought, tolerance and compassion. Thanks to great men like Luther, it is a much better and more tolerant world. Rulers – both regal and clerical – of their times wisely submitted to the unfolding thought revolution than to their swords. The actions of the Saudi Prince MBS in yielding to Saudi women to drive alone is just one of the many concessions these despotic rulers are forced to give into. Many will follow. Fearless and radical Islamic thinkers in Egypt, Turkey, Pakistan in particular plead on behalf of their women folk along the lines of freedom enjoyed by women all over the civilised world. The power and influences of the many features of today’s Information Technology will penetrate any iron wall keeping their own people prisoners forever.

          However, the liberated Rasah Al Qummun shoul ideally behave better in public to win the hearts and minds of the Islamic and wider world. Her going about in shorts with a cigarette in her mouth is hardly the ideal image of the ideal and modest Arab woman.
          At 19, there is time for her to learn.

          Kettikaran

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