2 December, 2020

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Wahhabi Salafi Orthodoxy & An Apostate

By Ameer Ali

Dr. Ameer Ali

“Don’t let anyone break your wings, you are free, fight and get your RIGHTS”, were the words tweeted by the eighteen year old apostate, Rafa al-Qunun from Saudi Arabia, who renounced Islam, ran away from her family and sought asylum in a foreign country. UNHCR recognised her as a refugee and Canada welcomed her. Saudi government washed its hands off from any responsibility and treated the matter as a family issue. A regime that is already reeling under international pressure calling for justice over the brutal murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi is understandably keeping its distance from the whole affair. However, is the Saudi regime totally blameless? Is the regime not in collusion with the most ultra-conservative religious ideology, Wahhabi Salafism, which is making life oppressive for women in that country? For decades if not centuries, women in that kingdom have been crying to be freed from the suffocating rigidities of a religious orthodoxy that is depriving them of their God given dignity and human right? The reality is that in Wahhabi Salafism Saudi Monarchy finds a powerful weapon to keep its people under submission. To relax the grip of Wahhabi Salafism is to invite danger for the survival of the regime itself.   

Rafa al-Qunun, in her tweeted message added further that she was ill treated by her family for cutting her hair short and was locked up in a room for six months. She is now fearing for her life, because she has renounced Islam and become an apostate for which shariah prescribes death as punishment. Her father, in an interview to authorities in Thailand, said that she is one of his ten children and admitted without elaboration that she may have felt “neglected” at times.  If family abuse was the main grievance the girl could have just run away without renouncing Islam. Why did she renounce both?  

About three decades ago, while I was chatting in Perth, Australia, with the late Egyptian born Dr. El-Irian, an internationally recognised scholar in cultural studies, a humanist and a former president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, on Muslim affairs, he said with great regret and concern that “orthodoxy has made Islam unliveable for the young and many are running away from it”. Rafa’s escape and apostasy has provided the latest factual proof to El-Irian’s statement. What follows is a short exposition of the oppressive nature of religious orthodoxy focusing mainly on Wahhabi Salafism.

While European Enlightenment in the 16th century gave birth to modernity, intellectual rationalism and scientific theories, post-modernism in the 20th century revolted against all structured theories of its predecessor and produced in turn a new era that challenged even the rationalist assumptions of modernism. Post-modernism marks the beginning of an age of endless revolt against all received wisdom and relentless search to discover and experiment new responses and solutions to problems confronting every branch of human life. The questions why and why not are the driving forces behind this ceaseless quest and they are dismantling age old fortresses of wisdom built on spiritual foundations. 

However, this ceaseless quest has hit a brick wall in the Muslim world, particularly where Muslims live in majority and where religious orthodoxy and orthopraxy have strangle hold over the believers thought and actions. Logically speaking, modernism and its post-modern prodigy should have started in the world of Islam had the rationalist movement that sprouted in the 9th and blossomed till the end of 11th centuries been allowed to grow unchallenged and pushed to the brink of extinction by a state backed religious orthodoxy based on narrow scriptural readings. This orthodoxy since then had become the handmaiden of Muslim autocrats and oppressive regimes in their determination to keep in submission people whom they rule. Saudi Arabia is a classic example of this diabolic partnership between autocracy and religious orthodoxy cum orthopraxy. Moreover, after the Second World War and during the Cold War, US superpower with its European allies found this partnership particularly handy in designing a new Middle East Order. Thus, Saudi Arabia with her petroleum resources is uniquely protected from the intrusion of any post-modern tendencies. Any sign of such tendency is nipped in the bud either through monetary bribe or bloodshed. What happened there in the aftermath of the Arab Spring is proof of this. Yet, as will be shown later, this protection is crumbling through the floodgates of a digital age.

Islamic religious orthodoxy, like Islam itself, is not a monolith. It is a mosaic of differentiated ideologies founded by leaders of different nationalities and cultures with different objectives and methodologies. They also differ in respect of their degree of tolerance towards alternative views and critical thought. Within this mosaic however, the Wahhabi brand of Salafi orthodoxy born in Saudi Arabia is perhaps the most rigid and ultraconservative. Although the eponymous Wahhabism began in 18th century and founded by preacher Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab, and gained ascendancy and permanency through his political alliance with the tribal chief Muhammad bin Saud, its religious philosophy has a long genealogy traceable to the ideas of one of the four famous imams in Sunni Islam, Ahmad ibn Hanbal (780-855). Of the four Sunni schools of thought Hanbalism is the most rigid. Wahhabi Salafism with its orthopraxy is a distinct package of dos and don’ts, administered through a state backed religious bureaucracy and institutions that is suffocating the ordinary life of many of the kingdom’s subjects, particularly that of the womenfolk. How this is can be demonstrated by few examples.  

In 2002, when Girl School no. 31 caught fire in Mecca, 15 of its young students perished in that fire, only because the mutawween or religious police refused to allow those girls escape, because they were “not properly covered”. To this police, a piece of cloth was more sacrosanct than fifteen bubbling human lives. No women in that country can step out of her house alone unless accompanied by a relative male. Even then, she should be properly covered from head to toe. Driving by women was prohibited, which led to the ‘Women2Drive’ protest movement by some daring females. They were arrested and thrown into jail. Some of them are reported still languishing in prison even though prohibition has been removed recently, by the so called modernist Crown Prince Muhammad bin Salman, who is alleged to have masterminded the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. To apply for driving licence a woman has to first get permission from her husband or father. Gender mixing even in offices is strictly prohibited. Men are permitted to have multiple wives and concubines, but women cannot have multiple husbands or boyfriends. In short, women in Saudi Arabia are virtually second class citizens. 

The Wahhabi Salafi package is an all or nothing offer. No question about the contents of the package is tolerated and no suggestion for repackaging is entertained. Nevertheless, the walls of Salafi orthodoxy are beginning to crack. The internet and social media have opened the flood gates for internal challenges. While questions are now being asked and suggestions for change are pushed from within the Salafi stronghold itself, by a group of “Muted Modernists”, as Medawi al-Rasheed, the Saudi Arabia born scholar calls them, an eighteen year old girl has decided to reject the entire package and caught the world’s attention. To this youngster, Salafi orthodoxy with its orthopraxy and her own family schooled in that oppressive environment have become intolerable, and hence her decision to become an apostate. She is not the first woman to do so however, nor will be the last.

There is an observable tension within the world of Islam between the champions of religious orthodoxy based on mytho-historical mindset and a growing generation of young men and women equipped with a post-modernist techno-scientific mindset. There is, in other words, a clash between tradition and post-modernity. The whys and why nots that the new generation is asking cannot be satisfactorily answered with quotations from past wisdom and examples from past generations. Without the power of reasoning and logic and without tolerance for alternate views and approaches religious leaders cannot guide the new generation.  It is this glaring g failure by orthodoxy that prompted El-Irian to make that statement and the young girl to become an apostate. The challenge is not only for Saudi Arabia but also by inference to all other shades of religious orthodoxies that are trying to close the flood gates of reason and logic.    

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    You have a good point. That is Muslim women should be allowed to have few husbands. That is great

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      Next time, please put a “a” in between “F” and “r” to look a realistic Muz name..

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          While Hinduism, Judaism and Buddhism are based on love, tolerance, pluralism in thought and compassion Islam unfortunately, from day one, is associated with violence, killing, murder, deception and treachery. Islam prohibits, at the pain of death, the policy of religious pluralism. The fratricide battle began from the time of the death of Prophet Mohamed. His wife, daughter, Son-in-law all laid claims to his “Throne” vast assets and land. The one who deserved to succeed was his faithful companion and relative – Ali. But palace intrigue, treachery and deception were set in motion to deny him his rightful place by the Prophet’s immediate family after his death. The Shia movement began after Ali and is strong in Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, India, Pakistan mainly. There has been bad blood between these two sects from the beginning – and continues to this day. If the words “the most merciful” “kind” “peaceful” “loving” are freely used in the Islamic discourse why is there no peacebetween the two major Islamic sects for 1,400 years. There are dozens of other Islamic sects like the Dawoodis, Ahmadis mainly being regionally powerful and influential. Islam has so far survived – both Sunni and Shia – only by forcibly keeping their followers in bondage through fear, threats and violence. But this cannot last in this modern 21st century. The powerful Saudis know it, which is why they are fast-forwarding reform.

          The one sect that is peaceful and tolerant of plural views are the followers of Sufism in Iran. They believe Love is the basis of power. Whereas Sunni Islam believes violence, threats, intimidation and arms ensure political power. It certainly has – so far.

          Jinnah’s Ghost

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            Hindu violence against
            Muslim led to partition
            of India.Buddhist violence
            agsinst Tamils post 1956 led to a war waged by Tamils led
            ny Prabakharan. They
            bombed Maligawa.and
            killed many Sinhala leaders.If Muslim took to
            violence it.was in defencr
            when they were attacked.
            We Muslims whether you
            worship , hairs, tootstatues trees. monkeys and elephant
            faced humans .They eat
            Burnt cow dung.
            We do not worship this
            and idols.Islam came to
            wipe out adolatory
            and psgan rites.This was
            the faith of everyone.

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      so that these Muslims women can serve herself for husbands fathers because it is allowed in this cult.

      When the Scientist saw his daughter-in-law he was sexited ..got sick until his son divorces her and married to his Scientist father.

      No difference between wife and daughters in this cult.

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        Chola,

        “Draupadi made a penance seeking a righteous, skilled, strong, handsome and wise husband. Since all those qualities are not possible for one man, God granted her 5 husbands”

        Everything is okay, but if she gets a child, how to find the father is the question here. This is not an issue in polygamy

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          @ghk

          He He He

          In Muslim families, mother and daughter get pregnant at the same time ask them who is the father of their child first because already girl`s father is on the walking stick.

          You all boast that your Scientist practiced sex life do you know Middle East flights to Indonesia is full with Arab old men for 2 weeks marriage holiday with child bride after holiday Arabs will say Talak to his child-wife. because this is Islam which justifies rape and looting as legitimate.

          Cheers

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            That perhaps is the reason
            why Islam is fastest growing
            religion. That too more are
            women who are coming to
            Islam while Rafah qunun is
            “flying away from safety of Islam” to a country where
            if you are not raped by your
            biological father there is
            the “holy father” !!!

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              In Malaysia Muslims rape daughters ..step-daughters ..and babies…..brothers make sex with sisters years … Malay newspapers are full of this news. Newly born babies are being thrown into the dustbin
              But there is the moral police checking hotels for the unmarried couples ..some states couple hold hands will be arrested.
              Islam failed.
              Indonesia has got PALYBOY magazine in Bhasha Indonesia filled with fleshy photos of Indio Muslim Chicks.
              In this internet world when Muslim girls secretly watch dance ..parties ..and sex videos now started to think how their life is miserable in the name of Isulam so started to run out of this Wahabi fanatic country.
              The truth is bubble of Isulam has burst thanks for the Internet invented by infidels.

              Cheers

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                cholan – In Indonesia they were able to publish the first edition only after which there were protest and they burned down the head office in Jakarta. The founder Erwin Arnada was sentenced to two years imprisonment. Plaboy magazine is just nothing compared to Tamil sex magazine sold in Madras. If you go to small bookshops in Mount Road or Burma bazaar in Chennai they will show you any amount. Even kids phonograph they sell- not western but Indians. Before spitting on Indonesia bend and spit on yourself for not knowing these.

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              Eng.Ismaeel Marikar,

              “That perhaps is the reason
              why Islam is fastest growing
              religion.”

              The reason, is that the difference in higher birth rates, because the Muslim women are not educated, mostly illiterate, and are normally the Chattel of the men.

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                Amarasiri,
                Mind your words
                Print media.or
                others most english
                journalists are Muslims
                and women and that.
                Women are married
                and they have childten.
                Isnt that what life is
                all about. You are
                a coward as I pointed out years ago.NOT
                a Singalaya.

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                  Eng Ismaeel Marikkar,

                  Facts hurt. Those are just demographic and population statistics facts. A population group that Marries earlier, is generally illititerate, will have more children compared another group that marries later and is literate. Just common sense statistics.

                  How old was Ayesha when she got married to Prophet Mohamed? 6 , 9, 12, 15, 17, 18,-21? Do your research.

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            cholan, you are writing other way about. It is actually Arabs are not flying to Indonesia but to India. This is a well known facts which you can see for yourself if you go to Bombay etc. Being a unrestricted country women including 12 year old kids amply available everywhere even virgins in some villages for a good amount. In your Madras there is a village and if you go there just for around Rs 10,000 you can get a virgin. He He He

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        Islam does not permit.a Muslim
        father to marry divorced wife of
        his son.

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          So what is said in your coly book that scientist wanted his daughter-in-law and seeing the suffering of Scientist, son divorced his own kid wife to marry his father is fake news.

          The truth is Isulam has given verses which you can manipulate according to your wish, and enjoy.

          Dynamic religion indeed

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            We Muslims.do not have to manipulate verses. The Quran is clear and easy to understand
            Why and what is your problem with Islam and Muslimd.
            Islamic is certainly dynamic and not static.

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              Isulam is dynamic this is why everywhere bomb blast.
              They throw the bomb and cry Allah Hoo Akbar in the west.
              Why your god is unable to stop the carnage in Syria, Yemen, Iraq?
              Yesterday there was a bomb blast at a 5-star hotel in Nairobi by Al Sababah bruders please don’t call them terrorists.

              This week in Dubai a Pakistani was arrested running a brothel. This idiot bought a 13 years girls from a poor family in Pakistan for USD 1,500- smuggled her to Dubai and wanted her to service for 10 men per day all Pakies.

              In Malaysia, if a Nepali working Girl gets pregnant out of marriage they throw her in prison simply she is a Hindu but Malay babies walk free. How is this?
              Cheers

              Dynamic religion allows this, sharia court will throw this case.

              Cheers

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                You have so much hate for Muslims and you are spilling out whatever comes to your mind or fabricating. Were there were no Tamil bomb throwers in Sri Lanka. Thank the government was able to eliminate them otherwise we might still have them. It is very difficult for countries like Afghanistan to completely eliminate them because of the physical nature of the country. Not only enough hiding places but cross border so easy to many other countries to be safe. If India did not help tigers will be still there. Do you know there are Tamil brothels in Malaysia? Do you know how money Tamils getting caught daily for drug related offences and prostitution? I was living for nearly 2 years in Malaysia and can say without any hesitation it is one of the best country in Asia. Food is so cheap.

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                Prabakharan and
                Pottu.Amman are they
                Muslims.
                Be it Iraq or Afghanistan and other
                Muslim countries
                Muslims are fighting
                against those who
                have invaded their
                countries. Americans
                have not.leanrt.from
                Vietnam and are bogged down everywhere badlt beaten. TRUMP
                is trying to get out

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          Ismaeel Marikkar,

          Zynab bint Jahsh, was the divorced wife of Prophet Mohamed’s adopted son, whom Prophet Mohamed married. Is this a Prophetic exemption or an Adoptrd son exemption? Just curious as to what Islamic History and the Holy Quran says about this issue.

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            In the event of the non
            cosummation of marriage
            it is permitted.
            Again as you have asked there are the Prophetic exemptionss..As we are aware the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa.sallam was
            allowed more rhan four
            wives and he had nine
            when he passed away.
            Allah kbows best.

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              Eng Ismaeel Marikkar,

              Zynab’s marriage was consummated. So, it must be the Prophetic exemption, available only to Prophets, that “allowed “ Prophet Mohamed to marry the ex-daughter in law.

              You say Allah knows best. Would you agree, at least in this case, the Prophet, Pbuh, knows best?

              Since many Ulama and Muslims, based on the instructions of the Ulama, believe that the Quran was uncreated, and been there since eternity, how come Allah knows best, gave this Prophet exemption, eons later to Prophet Mohamed only, and not to the other Prophets?

              Who wrote the Quran?

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                Idiot, Quran was written by men. Whatever Prophet Muhammed revealed as the message passed on to him after few years these were written in book form so people won’t forget it. Quran is just a book but not the message in it.

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            We Muslims.do not have to manipulate verses. The Quran is clear and easy to understand
            Why and what is your problem with Islam and Muslimd.
            Islamic is certainly dynamic and not static.

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              Scientist allowed multiple wives because there were widows during wars
              the population was dwindling.

              Today with 6 Billion population 90% musulims countries are in utter poverty
              who will feed this type of increase like bacteria?

              It is the infidel west which feeds and care the poverty Muslims countries ..it is the infidels first land there when there is a natural disaster.

              Bangladesh people will die on streets like dogs if Arabs countries(where they treat them like worst than slaves), Malaysia, Singapore cut their job opportunity already U.A.E is moving towards bankruptcy.

              Look how these Musulims treat Musulims maides in the Middle East and Malaysia
              torture , rape, deaths daily airports are loading coffins of poor maides in Colombo alone 40 bodies per month arrive from M.E

              Isulam treat own musulims like slaves but talk loud about compassion.

              In Malaysia there was a light decoration like a holy cross which lead to big protest by lazy malays saying they are converting Musulims.

              What a idiots how can a Mulsim convert by seeing an illumination cross.

              It is prohibited in Arab countries to carry a Bible through airport idiots think when local Muslims see Bible they will convert into Christianity ..their faith shrink their brains too.

              This is because their faith in Isulam is so weak and unstable minds are living in fear.

              Mosques are wailing 5 times a day in loudspeakers as mentioned in the Coly BUK but non-muslims though it disturbs mind their own business and respect.

              Cheers

              This is the different between Isulam and other religion .

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                Chola,

                When you have more than 500,000 maid working only in Saudi Arabia, then add other Arab countries in the ME. 40 death per month looks reasonable. Plus look at how these Muslim countries have changed the quality of lives back in SL.

                More over, these Arab couontries don’t have to provide shelter for refugees as they provide more than enough of job opportunities to work and earn with dignity so that people don’t have to carry a badge like you’re carrying in West and AU calling it, “I am a refugee with limited rights”, and the slang whites call it, “Boat People”

                Rape is rampage among Hindus and your mother land, India, precisely TN. It is like 1 in 20 men among your people is a “Swiss Kumar” hiding inside them.

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            You are correct. It could
            be Prophetic exemption
            and the point you raise
            about adopted son ,not
            by blood..I appreciate
            your commen. This is civilized conduct.

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            This is why I have mentioned:

            1-Muslims pray 5 times a day and lie every 5 minutes.
            Remember how first Saudis said that Khashoggi was not murdered but left the Consulate?
            Isulam has given them the right to lie.

            2-Coly Buk verses can be manipulated according to the need of an individual.

            In Pakistan, Ulamaah has given Fatwah that Musulim can now divorce on Skype, and
            Whatsup ..Bravo..atlast Ulamaah has found somewhere in the Buk ..it is mentioned about social media of 21st century.

            There are 1000s of Tajikistan men working in Russia .after 6 months they call their wife on phones and say talak..talak..talak. game is over and they marry infidel Russian chicks.
            This new lots of single mothers have become a headache for the Tajik government.
            What a dynamic religion. Mullahs there are still looking inside the Buk for the solution.

            Isulam started when Arabs were uneducated.. uncivilized so Scientist had made verses to manipulate according to his taste.

            Coran was written during the 6th century because before Arab language was not developed .and the first writings were on few dozens of goatskin .

            Now look the number of volumes of Coly Buk this is because with time these jokers manipulated, adjusted the verses according to their wish.

            At one stage they were compelled to divide Hadish into 3 parts because such amount of cons, craps, cooked up stories were circulating.
            Dynamic Isulam indeed.

            Cheers

            Muslims guys commenting here are thinking others don’t know anything about Isulam and its origin because they are kept in dark and brain stopped thinking.

            Coly book is a carbon copy of 3000 years old TORA with juicy additional information about sex of the Scientist who had invented a Time machine which will take any Musulim back to 4th century.

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              No one should get angry over what cholan was writing. It si about a new religion he call Isulam. See how Allah is great, he unplugged some wires in his brain so he cannot write Islam.

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          You are lying. What has your prophet done? Study your prophet’s lifestyle, more glaring things would come to light.

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        Islam is not a cult like certain
        beliefs and practices o those like you. Today happens to be the
        Festival Day of Bulls in a certsin faith where they worship them and
        even use the.holy ash gotten by
        burning the dung. They apply it and even eat it. So much for your query
        Have a good day

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    Dr. Ameer Ali writes crap, the subject is hijacked from the very first comment and everything goes in different direction. Like the saying, “if you sow a mango seed, you get mango tree only”

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      Amila W,
      I have great respect for Dr.Ameer Ali. Whatever he writes there is sensible meaning.

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    Isulam is declining very fast:

    All Muslims drink alcohol. inside the walls .

    Highest Opium production in the world is in Afghanistan and also the highest drug addicts Isulam prohibit drugs. When money is there who cares about religion.

    Muslim Bruders in Nigeria kidnap Muslims students and give them babies.

    In the Middle East, Muslims bruder massacre musulims bruders but Isulam teach bruderhood.

    Even in fanatic Saudi Arabia where people are being kept like slaves ..young girls are renouncing Isulam and ran away to an infidel country.

    Why Immam and Ullamahs are silent .let them come to 21st century and learn ..but watch bluefilms on the internet invented by infidels.

    What a pity Indonesia the largest Isulamic country on earth is suffering by Tsunami their god is unable to save them.

    Cheers

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      Chola,

      Instead of enjoying your Pongal, why are you crying and muttering like an infant that isn’t fed fully?

      Even we here enjoy some sweet pongals with our Tamil friends. Let Islam and Hinduism decline, grow, shrink, dance or sleep, we must enjoy our lives before we die.

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        In Tamil Nadu the homeland of the Sri Lankan Muslims , Pongal is celebrated by all Tamils, Hindu , Christian, Muslim and Jain irrespective of religion , as it is considered a national festival for all Tamils , just like Onam is celebrated by all Malayali irrespective of religion. In Sri Lanka it is only celebrated by Hindu Tamils. However since the actual homeland of the Sri Lankan Muslims is Tamil Nadu , you should also celebrate Pongal like a good Tamil Muslim from Tamil Nadu.

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          Rohan,

          Tamil Nadu, South India, is the homeland of almost all the Paras in Lanka, Para-Sinhala, Para-Tamils, Para-Muslims, Para-Christians, with a sprinkling from other Para Lands, per my-DNA studies.

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      Abdolutely correct. He should confine
      to teaching business and not write
      about Islam..He has said many things
      about Islam , which is not Saudi law
      but.Islamic law.
      He has stupid arguments. Men are
      allowed multiple wives, so women
      should be allowed boyfriends.
      In short he wants to.encourage
      “Animal husbandry”amongst women.
      He.talks of gender mixing not allowed
      Well Islam prohibits it. Male guardianship is Islamic law not Saudi
      Ameer Ali knows nothing of Islam.
      Haj is an obligatory act of worship.
      For male and female.if they have means. A woman MUST have a
      male guardian to accompany her.
      If she has not got a non marriageable
      male or “mahram” to accompany her
      it is not obligatory on her. This is Islam which Ameer Ali is ignorant.He talks of Sh. Muhammad
      Ibn Abdul Wahab as.founder of
      Wahabism. Plain poppy-cock !
      Thats Sh. Muhammad son of Sh Abdul
      Wahab..You should know Sh Abdul
      Wahab the father of Sh.Muhammad
      opposed him.So as Ameer Ali says
      Sh.Muhammad founded a new brand
      of Islam then it is “Muhammadism”
      and not “Wahabism”
      There is nothing called.Salafism.
      Salafi means predecessor. It is not
      a dirty word.
      Aneer Ali you are.a “Jahil “
      Get back to basics and learn your Islam
      You have by your writings gone
      out of Islam. Repent.and seek
      forgivenes. “Allah is oft forgiving
      and Mercifu “

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        Eng.Ismaeel.Marikar.
        Rubbish. Truth hurts.
        Saudis are basically a bunch of ignorant bedouins practicing a desert culture “forcibly” converted to a version of Islam by a fanatic, Abdul Wahab. Discovery of oil wealth and The American exploitation of the oil and protection of the primitive Arabs made them very wealthy and powerful and influential in the eyes of the Muslim world. Women had very little say and very minimal freedom of movement; men had many wives and concubines.
        Freedom for women is progressing at snail’s pace.S A is very wealthy but with a very primitive attitude towards women and Islam which expects women to be treated as one’s own mother.
        Dr A A’ conclusion is very apt indeed.

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        What does ‘Abdolutely’ mean. Is it an alternate form of divine inspiration.

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      Islam is declining !
      You are day dreaming.!!
      Its the fastest growing religion !!
      Dont talk of Wahabism and Salafism,
      since you know nothing.
      I have explained this elsewhere

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        @ Eng.Ismaeel Marikar

        Isulam is fastest growing religion / sect only in prisons all over the world.
        57 Isulamic countries except 7 all others are in utter poverty.
        Why the hell Arabs and Muslims then run to infidel west asking asylum if this fanatic sect is good?
        Do you know Spain was ruled by Muslims for 800 years but couldn’t convert even a minuscule population into Isulam ?
        In Malaysia at the Mosques converted Muslims must stay separately he he he
        No educated, thinking men or women never ever accept this fanatic sect
        Isulam says one book and all bruders ..why the hell they throw bomb every Fridays during prayers inside Mosque in Pakistan.
        Why the hell divisions if all are bruders?
        Israel is an enemy to Iran ,Israel is an enemy to Saudi Arabia but Iran and Saudis are enemies both pray 5 times same direction.Failing of Isulam .
        You can talk about your sect inside the walls of the mosque everyone will believe, questioning is punishable by death.
        The biggest joke is Muslims can criticise other religions but others can’t do the same about Isulam.
        If you have read TORAH the Jewish holy book you don’t have to study Coran ..it is simply a carbon copy.
        Cheers

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          Don’t worry why Muslim countries are poor. There are rich Muslim countries to help and they do help. It is time you need to focus why nearly 80% of SL Tamils live in other countries as refugees. You guys came to Sri Lanka or forcibly brought into Sri Lanka for tobacco farming, then tried to claim ownership on the land altering the history. Then tried asking for 50/50 when you don’t even have 10% population, that is why Sinhalese screwed you. But you opportunists used that war as your own profit making heaven and took asylum in the West. Since tasting the asylum, you funded the terrorist group to keep the war on-going so all of you can land in foreign land in fishing boats and ask for asylum.

          Now because of you guys, we are facing trouble visiting those countries on legitimate visits also

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            @ghk

            He He He

            My toes are laughing about yourYour historical knowledge.
            Today it is your Saudis are funding all terrorists in the world.
            Why your SL Musulim bruders are asking for refugee status in the West?
            What is their problem?
            Cheers

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            Generally are the most undeveloped species in the modern world.
            When they move from camel ride to Cadillac journey these jokers head swollen.
            Not a single Arab country can build one Km road by their own people.
            Asian & Western people have the same qualification and doing the same job but these idiots pay salary according to passport US worker will get 25 times more than a Bangladesh worker.

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            ghk,
            I think you are ignorant of history. Tamils in Sri Lanka have been living prior to the Sinhalese and is one of the ancient languages. Before Buddhism was introduced in Sri Lanka, do you know about Nagas and Yakkas. Do you know about the lost continent of Lemuria of which Sri Lanka is only a part of it. Do you know that there was a Siva temple known as Thondeeswaram far south of Matara and Hambantota. Are you aware that Ravana who was a devotee of Lord Shiva had been to these Shiva temples and Sri Lanka was once called a land of Shiva in Tamil Siva Boomi. Though Sinhalese call that they are Ravana’s descendants, no one knows the language Ravana spoke. Do not bring religion and mess up. All religions are like various flowers in a garden called earth.

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              Ayathuray Rajasingam,

              Do you seriously believe those stories? There is a difference between history and story, please do not create your history out of a fairy-tale.

              Do you think even Shiva exists or existed? You believe a human-being, Ravana moved a mountain? So you also believe that there was a Anuman who was able to fly from Sri Lanka to India? He..he

              You guys think SL history is your lunch menu to change the way you want it to have it..

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          There is no Isulam. You
          are insulting Muslims
          who are 1.7 billion not
          like aboutv 300 million
          Of those who worship
          cows monkeys and idols.
          Prabakharan and Pottu
          Amman killed thousands
          of all religions. .they being
          Hindus none talk of Hindu
          terrorism.Please do not talk
          of Torah and Quran without
          knowing what it says. We have a
          a divide Sunnis and Shias but
          we do not encourage infighting
          but there are the bad guys.
          Your Prabakharans teaching
          encouraged suicide and each one of them carried a cyanide
          capsule. .Fear of punishment
          if caught . Great Rajiv Ghandi
          was killed by a Hindu woman
          suicide bomber. Have a good
          day.

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            What about Palestine women fitted with bombs and blast Iareales kids and adults?

            Rajiv Feroz Kahn was a Muslim because his father Feroz Kahan deliver Wine to Nehru’s house thus trapped Nehru`s daughter.

            Yasir.Saddam.Kadaafi all responsible for the misery of Musulims in their country.

            I have read Torah though I am not a Jew, you never this is why you don’t know how Scientist made a carbon copy of this.Torah is 3000 years old but before 4th century no Isulam.

            Hinduism accept all religions and Gods this is the specialty a Hindu is permitted marry another religious girl.

            Hindus are not living in fear and instability about their religion like Isulam .

            In Indonesia, any man can marry a Muslim girl and practice his own religion. Indonesian musulims still practice many Hindu traditions eg: Burning the body on an auspicious day, learning Ramanaya Dance etc and Bahasa Indonesia has got many Tamil words.

            Why the hell a guy must convert if he likes to marry a Musulim ?

            Today terrorist and terrorism mean Musulim…this is the reality.

            After all Musulims in this country are converted Tamil Hindus ask you, grandmother
            she will say in Tamil …naankal Isulam aanavarkal …so your grandmother is also insulting your sect?

            Marikar is a pure Tamil name other name look like Jewish.

            Come out from the cave ..look how this teenage Saudi Girls are developing their minds
            with the help of Internet no one can stop this today this is the reality.

            Have seen how Isulamic chicks in Bahrain…Kuwait dress? go to the club ? drink and smoke they also pray 5 times when they have time.

            Cheers

            Sunnis and Shits are killing each other daily may be you are living inside a cave.

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            When I was president of the student union Arab students bring prostituites every night in their room. It was 1976. Besides this more Muslims are killed by Muslims than others. Look kenya is going to slaughter thousands of innocent civilian muslims.

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      There are many reasons why peoples have been, from past to the present, so ready to embrace Islam, those pointed out by Muhammad Asad, a Jewish convert to Islam, probably being the foremost:
      ‘Islam appears to me like a perfect work of architecture. All its arts are harmoniously conceived to complement and support each other, nothing lacking, with the result of an absolute balance and solid composure. Everything in the teaching and, postulates of Islam is in its proper place.’( Islam at the Crossroads,

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        This Jewish went to bankruptcy and got money for conversion.
        Some Arabs wanted to insult silent superpower Israel.

        Cheers

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      Cholan,
      why dont you spread your religion of worshiping the hindu PENIS . Perhaps it might keep the muslims away from all the crimes which you cite. Maybe only the followers of Isulam like killing, not those who follow ISLAM. By the way according to your information the Hindus do not commit any crime like rape (Bombay,/Goa style)? Cheers and Cheers

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    Dr. Ameer Ali is not a scholar of Islam. Nay, he is scholar in a different field who speaks and writes about Islam as if he was a Scholar of Islam. In comparison in scholarship, to the likes of the late Sheik Albaani (rahimahullah) he is an insignificant speck of dust. I have two simple questions for him. Kindly explain to us who is a Salafi and what are his beliefs that contravenes the teachings of Islam. The second question is a request to him to quote chapter and verse from the writings of Imam Muhammad bin Wahab to show that the Islam he preached was against the beliefs enunciated by the noble prophet of Islam.

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      Please do not make fun of
      Islam .Muslim fathers don’t
      have to sleep with daughters
      since they are permitted to marry more than one.wife.
      What you say must be
      what happens in your
      culture.

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        @ Eng .Ismaeel Marikar

        It seems you are living inside a cocoon.

        Today 15/1. Malaysian press news are:

        Muslim Father raped his daughter sentenced to 25 years jail by the CIVIL court.
        (Tomorrow if this animal goes to SYARIAH court he will be released).

        16 years Muslim Malay girl gave a birth baby the father is her 14 years bruder.bith are in prison now,

        Malaysian newspapers are full of news like this daily, so Islam support sex maniacs and pedophiles???

        Isulam is really dynamic religion.

        or Is this a fun in Isulam ???

        Cheers

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      Over twenty five years ago I put out
      booklet , pointing out there is nothing
      called Wahabism.
      “Wahabism Exposed :
      It is available on internet.

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      Salafi, means predecessor.
      Its not a dirty word

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        Eng Ismaeel Marrikar,

        Other Muslims, called the followers of Abdul Wahhab, Wahhabis. The term was originally used by the Turkish Ottoman Capliphapte. The Wahhabis did not like the term, and called themselves Salafis. Therefore the current usage is Wahhabi-Salafies.

        According to the Hadith of Najd, Authentic In Bukhari Hadith, the horn of Satan will come from East of Medina, Najd, Riyadh. Wahhabi Salafies are indeed the followers of Satan, to create calamity, Fitna, among the Muslims.

        That was Satan’s mission. The Wahhabis, ISIS, Al Queda, etc. have been recruited as agents by Satan.

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        Eng.Ismaeel Marikar,

        “Salafi, means predecessor.
        Its not a dirty word”

        That was BEFORE the Wahhabies came on the scene and called themselves Salafies, when others called them Wahhabis, who follow Satan, per Hadith of FNajd.

        The ORIGINAL meaning of Barbarian, is somebody who did not speak Greek, but said BaBarBar. Now it means an uncivilized person.

        So, the Wahhabies are not Salafies. They are Wahhabies, and the Ottoman Caliph, named them so.

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      Jamal,

      Would you consider Mohamed Ibn Rushd, Latinised name Averroes, to be Scholar , who lived in Islamic Andulus, in the 12th Century?

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        Amarasiri,
        Before I proceed to answer your question, can you please oblige me with an answer to my question whether you believe in God?

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          Jamal,

          “can you please oblige me with an answer to my question whether you believe in God?”

          Can you define God, the way you understand? Different people have different understandings of God.

          Some people see the Sun rise from the East and set in the Wrest and says, that the Sun goes around the Earth.. Some others have a different opinion,

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            Amarasiri,
            Please stop beating about the bush. I am not interested in other peoples definition but yours. You asked me a question and to reply to YOU , I needed to know your what your belief is to answer your question.. Thank you.

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              Jamal,

              Amarasiri does not know. There are signs that that there must be a force behind the Universe, in its known current phase is 13 billion years old, and many claim this force to be God, Yehwah, Allah and other names, and is everywhere. Some believe it is Energy. If there is unequivocal data and demonstration, of course, Amarasiri will accept it. Until then, must say Amarasiri does not know still and looking for data.

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                Amarasiri,
                “Amarasiri does not know.”
                Thank you for your honesty. We live in an age where a lot of uneducated, unqualified people express opinions in the manner of “fools rushing in where Angels fear to tread”. This forum is a hotbed for those of like ilk. Many were the disciples of the Lord Buddha who did not know, and he clarified matters for them. I like to cite one of my favourite.

                And on another occasion the Blessed One dwelt at Sāvatthi in the Jetavana, the garden of Anāthapindika
                At that time the Blessed One edified, aroused, quickened and gladdened the monks with a religious discourse on the subject of Nirvāna. And these monks grasping the meaning, thinking it out, and accepting with their hearts the whole doctrine, listened attentively.,But there was one brother who had some doubt left in his heart. He arose and clasping his hands made the request: “May I be permitted to ask a question?” When permission was granted he spoke as follows:
                And the Blessed One, in this connection, on that occasion, breathed forth this solemn
                utterance: :
                “It is hard to realize the essential, the truth is not easily perceived; desire is mastered by him who knows, and to him who sees aright all things are naught. “There is, O monks, an unborn, unoriginated, uncreated, unformed. Were there not, O monks, this unborn, unoriginated, uncreated, unformed, there would be no escape from the world of the born, originated, created, formed. :

                Since, O monks, there is an unborn, unoriginated, uncreated, and unformed, therefore is
                there an escape from the born, originated, created, formed.”

                Now to answer your question
                Would you consider Mohamed Ibn Rushd, Latinised name Averroes, to be Scholar , who lived in Islamic Andulus, in the 12th Century?

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                  Amarasiri, sorry the answer was inadvertently left out.
                  I consider Averroes as a scholar in philosophy, like this man Dr. Amir Ali, but at a much much higher level. Notwithstanding this he is not considered as a Religious Scholar of the ranking of the four Imams, the noble scholar Ibn Taymiyyah, Sheik Muhammad ibn Wahab or even Sheik Albani of our generation.

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                    Jamal,

                    “Amarasiri, sorry the answer was inadvertently left out.
                    I consider Averroes as a scholar in philosophy, like this man Dr. Amir Ali, but at a much much higher level. Notwithstanding this he is not considered as a Religious Scholar of the ranking of the four Imams,”

                    You have very little knowledge of Mohamed Ibn Rushd, his background his writings and his works.

                    “The four Imams, the noble scholar Ibn Taymiyyah, Sheik Muhammad ibn Wahab or even Sheik Albani of our generation.”… They are the Horns of Satan. presciently predicted by Prophet Mohamed in the Haith of Najd.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Najd

                    “O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Shaam. O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Yemen.” The people said, “O Messenger of Allaah, and our Najd.” I think the third time the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said, “There (in Najd) will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations, and from there appears the Horn of Satan.”

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UDy_apXW3E

                    How to debate with the so called Wahhabi -Salafiyyah, who follow Satan.

                    Scholar from al-Azhar: Wahhabism is a Satanic Faith, the Horn of the Devil that Muhammad Predicted

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                      “Amarasiri does not know.” “ not only the existence of GOD but other mundane subjects. His has poor or no knowledge of the genesis and development Islam is very obvious in the manner he has saved stock answers that have no relevance to the subject under discussion.
                      Amarasiri, why do you pretend to be an intellectual when your yourself admitted that you do not know. Listen you have cast aspersions on the character of the Holy Prophet Muhammad, who is adored by billions of the faithful followers of Islam. You twist the verses of the Quran to ridicule it in spite of the fact that “Amarasiri does not know.” “. Like in a game of sports there are two sides in a match. Hundreds of scholars and intellectuals, the likes of Goethe, Lamartine, Bernard Shaw, Thomas Carlyle, Sarojini Naidu and Mahatma Ghandi, to name a few, have spoken of the Great Prophet of Islam in glowing appreciation. However You opt to be on the losing side, “The one who does not know.” “ you are trying to pick on the nebulous schisms in the religion, siding with the opponents against the heavy weights of orthodoxy. You have shown how prejudiced you are, not for the elucidation of a controversy, but only to show your opposition to the winning team.
                      You say “The four Imams, the noble scholar Ibn Taymiyyah, Sheik Muhammad ibn Wahab or even Sheik Albani of our generation.” They are the Horns of Satan. presciently predicted by Prophet Mohamed in the Haith of Najd.” You also say that the Prophet agrees that the Earth is flat. If as per your argument he is wrong in one case, as you presume, how come you take the other statement as true.

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                      Jamal,

                      “Amarasiri does not know. There are signs that that there must be a force behind the Universe, in its known current phase is 13 billion years old, and many claim this force to be God, Yehwah, Allah and other names, and is everywhere. Some believe it is Energy.”

                      Jamal, do you have a comprehension problem?

                      When, Amarasiri says “Amarasiri does not know”, what it means is that .there is insufficient and definite data to show that a certain belief or idea is true That is the problem with Religion No, supporting data, then you have to believe, it is true If not Apostate ot Heretic

                      1 Creation of Adam ( belief) vs, Theory of Evolution ( true, with supporting data)

                      2 The Earth is spread out like a carpet (belief) vs the Earth is spherical (true)

                      3 The Sun goes around the Earth, goes under Allah throne (belief), as opposed to rotating on its axis (true), and orbiting the sun( true)

                      4 If you cannot reconcile what is in the Scripture with the facts, then, they say it is something wrong with your mind, you are an heretic or Apostate The Christians did that the Muslims do that Scientist do NOT do that They come with more observations and data

                      Q Why did God wait 14 billion years, and select the driest parts of the Earth in the middle East to select the Prophets?

                      Was God and Religion man- made? What does the data say?

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                      Amarasiri,
                      You have a problem in your hands to ascertain the existence of GOD. Fine, why don’t you engage yourself in this field instead of immersing yourself in the polemics of Islamic schism. What purpose will it benefit you to resolve the controversy of where Najd is? What has that got to do if there exists a GOD or not. We are all against the terrorist groups like ISIS, Al-Qaeeda and Taliban. Islam does not preach violence for no cause at all. Of course, we are expected to defend ourselves and our families in the event of an external threat, but under controlled conditions. I feel very sorry that you comment on Verses of the Quran without an iota of knowledge of the Quranic Arabic and state the Quran declares the Earth Is flat and the Sun revolves around the Earth etc etc. If you know your Arabic and the Arab idiom you will not rush to foolishly conclude as you have done repeatedly. I suggest that you get onto YouTube and read on the scientific and mathematical miracles of the Quran. Try disputing these conclusions in a Scientific way. Good Luck.

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                      Jamal / January 21, 2019,,
                      (296 words)

                      Jamal. You say:
                      Q1. “Fine, why don’t…. for no cause at all.”

                      A1. The Muslims have failed, over the centuries, to sort out their differences, and have surrendered their religion to the Ulama Orthodoxy. Many Muslims have no clue that their religion was taken over by Satan and their agents, Wahhabies, Salafies, ISIS, Taliban Boko Haram etc. have become victims, along with non-Muslims. They have allowed Revelation above Reason, and have lost their ability to think, and the Ulama and Orthodoxy have a great time in maintaining their hegemony.

                      According to the Hadith of Najd, presciently predicted by Prophet Mohamed, (Pbuh), the Horm of Satan will come from Najd, and indeed the Wahhabi-Salafies hail from there including Abdul Wahhab and his co-conspirators.

                      Scholar from al-Azhar: Wahhabism is a Satanic Faith, the Horn of the Devil that Muhammad Predicted

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UDy_apXW3E

                      How to debate with the so-called Wahhabi-Salafiyyah.

                      2. “ I feel very sorry that you comment on Verses of the Quran without an iota of knowledge of the Quranic Arabic and state the Quran declares the Earth Is flat and the Sun revolves around the Earth etc etc.”

                      It is there in the Quran and in the Authentic Hadith of al-Bukhari and Muslim. Do you mean that the meaning is different as stated in the Quran, Surah 3:7? Do you think that the Ulama know that?

                      What about the Adam and Eve stories? Why are they in the Quran? Because the Quran was put together , by people. The Uthmanic Quran? The closest peaceful Quran that comes is the Meccan Quran, Revelations, that are more peaceful.

                      Since the position of the Islamic Orthodoxy is that the Quan is Uncreated, is the Word of God, unalterable, this becomes, an impossible task.

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                      Jamal,

                      RE: Wahhabi Salafi Orthodoxy & An Apostate,”

                      You do know somethings, and you don’t know some things., about the Wahhabi Salafi Orthodoxy.

                      EXTENDED INTERVIEW: Rahaf Mohammed on escaping Saudi Arabia to Canada.

                      CBC News: The National
                      Published on Jan 16, 2019

                      In her own words, Saudi teen Rahaf Mohammed talks to Susan Ormiston about fleeing her family, how she finally ended up in Canada and what she plans to do next.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJIOxnr_YiE

                      Go with the data. Islam and Wahhabi-Salafism, that follows the Satan, oer Hadith of Najd, need reformation. Scholar from al-Azhar: Wahhabism is a Satanic Faith, the Horn of the Devil that Muhammad Predicted.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UDy_apXW3E

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                      Amarasiri
                      I am sorry, but you do have a communication problem. Perhaps something more serious than that. Why on earth do you respond when a query is made regarding Muslims/Islam – your stock answer is about Najd, the Wahabis, The Earth is Flat, the Sun revolves around the Earth, and a gang of so called “scholars” of nebulous reputation. Please give up this attitude for a little while and delve into the following urls. Give your honest opinion and let us see what you have to say.

                      1. https://www.islamreligion.com/category/34/scientific-miracles-of-holy-quran/

                      The miracles of the Quran

                      2. https://www.islamreligion.com/ebooks/islam-guide.pdf

                      Download this book here

                      3. http://www.ff-eizdavastvo.ba/Books/Qur'an_stylistic_and_mathematical_miracle.pdf

                      The book on mathematical miracles of the Quran

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                      Jamal / January 22, 2019,

                      Give your honest opinion and let us see what you have to say.

                      Thanks for the three Url references. Is there independent demonstration.?

                      Two simple Questions. How old was Aisha when she married Prophet Mohamed, and how did Prophet Mohamed die? Poisoned? By Whom? Why?

                      Miracles of Muhammad

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracles_of_Muhammad

                      Splitting of the moon
                      Isra and Mi’raj (Night Journey)
                      The events which occurred during his Hegira (migration from Mecca to Medina):

                      Reducing the Qur’an to a “Scientific Miracle” is a Ridiculous Idea

                      https://medium.com/@sidramahmood/reducing-the-quran-to-a-scientific-miracle-is-a-ridiculous-idea-785103b3b70f

                      A miracle is defined as “a surprising and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is therefore considered to be the work of a divine agency.”
                      Interestingly enough, the combination scientific miracle seems to be a Muslim-coined phenomenon. A simple Google search yields an entire first page dedicated to the “scientific miracles of the Quran” from Islamic sources ONLY. Hence, you can see why the phenomenon is a conundrum and contradiction in itself according to the basic definition of the word, miracle.

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    There are many reasons why peoples have been, from past to the present, so ready to embrace Islam, those pointed out by Muhammad Asad, a Jewish convert to Islam, probably being the foremost:
    ‘Islam appears to me like a perfect work of architecture. All its arts are harmoniously conceived to complement and support each other, nothing lacking, with the result of an absolute balance and solid composure. Everything in the teaching and, postulates of Islam is in its proper place.’( Islam at the Crossroads,

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      Eng.Ismaeel Marikar

      “those pointed out by Muhammad Asad, a Jewish convert to Islam, “

      When are you planning to become a Muslim?
      What have you got to do with Islam?

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        I am a Muslim and i am proud
        of being one.A Muslim is one
        who follows the Quran and sunnah
        and translates it into action by
        living it. Anyone can claim to
        be one by having a name as
        we see around us. You cannot
        write off Muslims or Islam
        just because of the foolish
        actions of those claiming to be
        Muslims like ISIS and amongst
        us those who denigrate other faiths
        and those who vandalize statues and Trees and other articles they
        worship..We. worship Allah and
        only Him and do not associate
        anyone or dead men.or holy men
        in our worship. As much az I love
        my religion I respect the others
        and will not descend to low level
        of some in this forum..I trust this
        answers your query.

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          He He He

          But we go around a big stone and pray then throw 8 pebbles please don’t ask why.

          Inside every SL Mosques, there is a tomb (inside a dead body )we decorate this fire joysticks and pray don’t ask why.

          Isulam prohibits object worship ..close your eyes and accept if you question we will cut your neck.

          Cheers

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            cholan you are now laughing about tomb worshipping. This was what Wahab cleaned up in Saudi Arabia when these things took place because it was a sin. In Sri Lanks some mosques have tombs like these and these trustee who call themselves caretakers make million by making the ignorant Muslim masses fools. Some Muslims in SL dead against these tomb worshiping and they are doing their b est to get rid of these practices and they are branded as Wahabi.

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        @cholai,
        I am not in a cocoon .I have
        travelled and worked both
        in this country and outside
        You cannot call Malaysia a
        Muslim country and it is
        not governed according to
        Shariah. Islam does not
        allow or encourage incest.
        Malays too hzve their own culture which is a mix of
        Buddhist Hindu and pagan
        practices..In a Shariah court
        if there, they would have got
        a punishment from whipping to
        even death. The actions of an
        indivifual should not be used to
        write off an entire race ot faith.

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          He He He

          In Malaysia, Shariah court is so strong even they can cancel the verdict of a Civil court.

          Please don’t try to twist and manipulate verses suitable for you.

          For 500 years Malays are Muslims and pray 5 times.

          Malaysia is the only country officially allow a 12 years old girl to marry a 49 years man..very common they say Scientist married 8 years Aysha so it is allowed here.

          Ever heard a 9-month-old baby converted to Islam without the approval of her own mother ..in Malaysia this happens ..such a dynamic religion ..today promoted on Youtube..Facebook..and all social media invented and owned by Jews.

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        You are correct. It could
        be Prophetic exemption
        and the point you raise
        about adopted son ,not
        by blood..I appreciate
        your commen. This is civilized conduct.

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      E I M
      There is nothing wrong with Islam. It is a great Religion.
      Wahabism is a punitive Saudi Version of Islam which abuses women and exploits them; most of it is’s practice is primitive, Bedouin desert culture; S l Muslims are very much influenced by it because of monetary dependency and poor understanding of the religion, The ACJU has it’s own notion of Islam compounding the problem in SL.
      Unfortunately, the efforts of Justice Marsoof is gathering dust in the FEMALE justice ministers office.

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    CT
    Why do you allow such CRAP on these pages?
    Unprovoked insults and crude responses!
    Who gains except the few bigots who get a kick out of it.

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    Isulam is in fear and insecurity,
    This is why they are not allowing Muslims to read about other religions know very well they will see the fanatic rules and free religious practice in other religions.
    This is why Saudi Arabia even banned Christmas celebration…and temples and Churches simply because of fear.
    A Hindu, Buddhist, and Christians know what is Ramadan and fasting very well but Muslims are prohibited to learn about others.
    Allah is an Arab word for God but in Malaysia, only Muslims can use this ALLAH even though in Malay bible mention Allah and Sikhism called the God …..Allah.
    What nonsense is this.?
    Even many Middle East media ridiculed about Malays…where 60% Tamil 40% Sanskrit is called Malay.
    Suppose if you write CARGO as KARGO this is Malay a language has no own Alphabet.
    In Isulam fanatism has no limit because you can modify verses as you please.
    Something wrong with this dangerous sect. this is why even Saudi girls are jumping over the fence.
    Cheers

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      cholan,

      I heard that talented Arabs from Syria are also migrating to your areas and Whites favor them for their superior IQ and better looks, and south-Asian refugees are given menial jobs and that might be affecting you? Is that the reason why you boil on Islam?

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        But you are also a South Asian Tamil convert to Islam and like 99% of the Sri Lankan Muslims have been brainwashed to hate their Tamil origin and worship everything Arab including the Arab coca. Arabs treat you South Asian converts as slaves however much you worship them and claim to be of Arab background. They actually laugh when Sri Lankan Muslims claim an Arab origin. As for Arabs being treated well or better than South Asian immigrants , don’t may me laugh. Westerners hate and look down on Arabs in general , especially the Muslim ones and do not want them there at all , as they know they are fanatics and trouble makers. They will come and beg for refuge and then once established, just like in eastern Sri Lanka , they want Sharia , Islamic law and want to steal the land from the original inhabitants. Superior IQ and good looks ! looks like you are high on drugs and suffering from some sort of Arab worshiping inferiority complex. Sri Lankan Tamils and other South Asian immigrants are generally far more educated and more intelligent , than most Arab immigrants. This is typical behaviour of low caste/untouchable Hindu converts , like 99% of Sri Lankan Muslims are. To hide their lowly origin , claim the origin culture of another people whom they think their newly converted religion represent. In the case of Islam Arabs , worship them and start making derogatory comments on their actual origin and culture. You can see this behaviour amongst many recently Sinhalised converted Tamil , Sinhalese Buddhist Fascists

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          Siva Sankaran Sharma,

          Hello high caste asylum seeker and the White-man’s fav “boat people”, how are you? If there is a human-being on earth that is proud being a refugee on another country, it is the Tamils who went to EU and West on fishing boats to claim asylum showing fake reasons while hiding the real reason, Forex ….

          These people always love foreign lands, God know why. Ever since brought in from their native land, Tamil Nadu for working in tobacco fields in northern Sri Lanka, they felt in love with their master, Sinhalese land, Sri Lanka.

          Fought and failed, now barking from far away, but wait and see, in 50 years or little less, suddenly these Siva Sankaran Sharma and his gang with say they had over 2500 years of history in Australia – Only place that is safer from them is, their real mother land, Tami Nadu which they never want to call their Home Land,

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          Australoid crow SSS stop cawing, nothing going to change just because you are cawing. Moors were Moors hundreds of years ago, now the same and also in the future. On the other hand if you have enough proofs, start a campaign against tyhe government requesting them take off the word Moors and put Australoid Tamils everywhere. Original inhabitants were tree climbers so flocked around Moors when they came to their places to learn and that is how some places became Moors majority. You say Moors are from low caste so why you are struggling so much to make Moors Tamil. Aren’t you better off with superior caste?

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    ‘There is an observable tension within the world of Islam between the champions of religious orthodoxy based on mytho-historical mindset and a growing generation of young men and women equipped with a post-modernist techno-scientific mindset’ – This is a good point observed by Dr.Ameer Ali. Moreover this Muslim girl has openly said that she wanted to renounce Islam. This is a severe slp on Saudi Arabia’s face and also sweet revenge by Canada when it granted her asylum. But how will Hisbullah and Rishard Badurdeen and even the Mosques in Sri Lanka react? It cannot be forgotten that when the Twin Tower was attacked, the Mosques in Sri Lanka were celebrating the attack without realizing that the Twin Tower was home to many nationalities from various countries.

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      Rajasingham talks as if there is no tension in his own religion, whatever that is. Whatever this situation connotes for him he should not talk rubbish about every mosque was celebrating at the collapse of the twin towers. How he got his statistics is a matter of connived conjecture. How the twin towers fell is more now a fact than a conspiracy. Even Trump now has stated that it seemed like an inside job.

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      Ayathuray Rajasingam,
      .
      “It cannot be forgotten that when the Twin Tower was attacked, the Mosques in Sri Lanka were celebrating the attack without realizing that the Twin Tower was home to many nationalities from various countries”
      .
      Sorry you were wrong, every Muslim organization and mosques condemned that severely. Islam deplores violence against innocent women and children by any means. Someone showing anger is normal, but telling utter “lies” is not acceptable. Do you think that foreign missions operating in SL would not have noticed it?

      The fact is celebrating on killings of innocent women and children in public places in Colombo bombings was usually the nature of northern Tamils because, if they don’t do that tiger terrorists within their controlled areas used to punish them. Some did it willingly

      If not for MR and Gota, Tamils would have made Sri Lanka a today’s Syria decades back, and would be enjoying their asylum status shamelessly as always. Actually, Malayali genes in you make you do it. Look at your ancestor Malayalis of India, they are never productive and always protest against govt in their own place, but very productive slaves in Arab countries.

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        Abdul Kader,
        I was in Colombo when the Imams in mosques at Modera, Maradana, were praising through the loudspeakers about Bin Laden when he attacked the Twin Tower. Do not try to hide a full pumpkin within a plate of rice. They even blocked the streets and praising Bin Laden who was instrumental for the loss of many lives in the Twin Tower which was home to many Nationals. We all condemned the atrocities of the LTTE and paid the price of losing our close loved ones. Do not speak of Malayalis – they are originally Cheras and are educated and cultured. It is time that Muslims in Sri Lanka should learn lessons from Malaysiya and Indonesia which have already demonstrated that their countries are practising religious harmony. Remember I have relatives even among the Islamic Royal family. They are all broad-minded..

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          Ayathuray,

          “I was in Colombo when the Imams in mosques at Modera, Maradana, were praising through the loudspeakers about Bin Laden when he attacked the Twin Tower”

          Then definitely these 2 Imams might be extremists like Bin Laden and Islam hates people like this, I cannot say anything else on them. But fortunately, SL Muslims consist of moderate majority, and we do condemn.

          Why you people could not do anything or at least condemn when your terrorist leader Prabakana went on killing innocent and poor ordinary people who have nothing to do with your separation demands? Except a few connected to Army, rest all he killed are poor and innocent, not even the rich because your terror leader was too coward to reach Army and the rich, he he killed easy targets – Shame on you people to fund him to achieve your personal agendas

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      @.Rajasingham
      There is no.tension within Islam as
      you unbelievers tend to.think Islam
      is just one though there are sects
      as in all faiths. They are man
      made and not from God. There will
      come a day, when those who create rifts within Islam will join you in
      your abode in the after life.
      Why bring Hisbullahs and Bathiudeens into the picture.
      None have reacted.up to now.
      No one here were happy when
      Twin Towers were brought down
      by controlled demolition and not
      planes flying into them. I am a
      Muslim and an Explosives Expert
      and served as such in Mahaveli
      and Victoria Project and abroad.
      I can take you on not only on
      Islam Explosives.and engineering
      but many other fields. Stop your
      damned nonsense on Islam. .I dont
      care as to what you think of Saudis

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        Ismaeel Marikar,
        Can you please give what is meant by ‘unbelievers’ in your context? If you mention of God, can you define or give the nature of God and gow the word GOD is derived. All of us like to exchange views. Also give an explanation of ‘after life’.

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    I have a few questions for Islamic zealots like Eng.Ismaeel Marikar.
    (1) Why Muslims who boast about Islamic brotherhood are fighting like hell in Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Pakistan, Nigeria etc?
    (2) Quran says the evidence of two women is equal to one man. Where is gender equality?
    (3) Why Muslims are migrating in their millions to Canada, UK, EU, USA and other Non-Muslim countries? Why they don’t migrate to Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Bangladesh and other Islamic countries?
    (4) Muslims living in India can freely build mosques, but are Hindus allowed to build temples in the Middle Eastern Countries? Leave alone temples are the allowed to practice their religion within the four walls of their home?
    (5) How come a married Muslim can divorce his wife by chanting talaq, talaq, talaq three times in the presence of two witnesses? Is this not discrimination based on sex?
    (6) In Pakistan and Afghanistan, why are Muslim militants bombing fellow Muslims praying in mosques even on a holy month like Ramadan?
    (7) If Allah is the only god and there are no other gods but Allah why Islam is practised by only a quarter of the world population?
    (8) Iran and many Arab countries are Islamic republics. The Quran they hold in their hands and the Allah they worship is one and the same. Then why so much enmity between these countries?
    (9) Why Quran dehumanizes Non-Muslims and Says that They are Vile Animals? Who created these animals? And why Quran Says that Allah does NOT Love Unbelievers (30:45)

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      Thanga,

      Questioning fighting among Muslim groups or countries is like questioning why did LTTE destroyed other terrorist organizations in Jaffna when all of them had the same vision and aim, that is to separate Sri Lanka and gain Eelam.

      Gender equality doesn’t exists anywhere in the world, though the US and WEST big mouth on the subject. If there is gender equality, why everyday there are women in those countries fight for it? Naturally, all including those women fighting for it know that it can’t be achieved because it is not supported by nature. Women have to be women with their special qualities and men have to be men with their own qualities.

      Islam has nothing to do with a country’s policy on refugee or asylum. Why America does not encourage it? Still those able Muslim countries make sure dignified job opportunities to the needy, instead of making human-being look subhuman carrying a refugee status. You guys go blind in front of currency difference and better living conditions there and forget your own dignity.

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      Thanga,

      Muslims in india can of course build mosques because it is not an Islamic Republic. It is a secular country, simple as that. Then again, don’t you know that in Dubai, Bahrain Malaysia, Indonesai being Muslim countries have Hindi Kovils? It is not just Saudi Arabia a Muslim country. If a country law does not permit building Kovils, why do you blame Islam?

      “How come a married Muslim can divorce his wife by chanting talaq, talaq, talaq ” – That is not how divorce works in Islam, wrong understanding, please acquire better understanding – Talaq is pronounced 3 times after all required legal procedures and settlements are followed. On the other hand, it’s in your religion, a piece of thread soaked in turmeric can decide, enforce a marriage regardless of couple’s willingness without any legal contracts. Written contracts between 2 parties in any occasion is a MUST in Islam.

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      Thanga,

      “In Pakistan and Afghanistan, why are Muslim militants bombing fellow Muslims praying in mosques even on a holy month like Ramadan?”

      Ask yourself, why LTTE killed fellow Tamils? And completely destroyed other terrorist groups – so this is a similar difference among them and this has nothing to do with Islam

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      Thanga,

      “Why Quran dehumanizes Non-Muslims and Says that They are Vile Animals? Who created these animals? And why Quran Says that Allah does NOT Love Unbelievers “

      Quran is a holy book of Islam. Just reading it and trying to understand word-by-word won’t help you. People just use it (Quran) for whatever point they want to make. They come to it with their own ideas and look for verses that confirm what they want to hear – That is what you are.

      “And let not hatred of any people seduce you that ye deal not justly. Deal justly, that is nearer to your duty.” ~ QURAN 5:8

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    I am a Muslim and i am proud
    of being one.A Muslim is one
    who follows the Quran and sunnah
    and translates it into action by
    living it. Anyone can claim to
    be one by having a name as
    we see around us. You cannot
    write off Muslims or Islam
    just because of the foolish
    actions of those claiming to be
    Muslims like ISIS and amongst
    us those who denigrate other faiths
    and those who vandalize statues and Trees and other articles they
    worship..We. worship Allah and
    only Him and do not associate
    anyone or dead men.or holy men
    in our worship. As much az I love
    my religion I respect the others
    and will not descend to low level
    of some in this forum..I trust this
    answers your query.

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      Eng Ismaeel Marikar,

      Part 1: (296 words) Q. Who (Really)Originated and Who (Really) Wrote the Quran?

      “A Muslim is one who follows the Quran and sunnah
      and translates it into action by living it.”

      The Satan following Wahhabi-Salafis, ISIS, Taliban, Al-Queda and many others claim that they follow the Quran and the sunnah(traditions), and kill others, especially the Wahhabi-Salafis, ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban and others

      The answer is not simple A short Islamic answer to the question is, that The Entire Quran: Unaltered, undoubted, direct word of Allah, and was uncreated, not created, and existed since eternity, by the All Knowing, Almighty and Omni present Allah
      Most believe that Allah spoke his word directly to Angel Gabriel (by code?) , who translated the Word to Arabic to Prophet Mohamed, and he in turn Revealed/preached to the Muslims

      However, in reality, it went through a huge and questionable process. The Islamic belief is that Mohamed (570-632 CE), b Mecca, was Spiritually active, went to a cane in Hira, Mecca for retreats In 610 CE, when Mohamed was 40 years old, he was suddenly visited by the Angel Gabriel, “The Angel came to him and asked him to read”, Sahih Bukhari 1:1:13 “I do not know how to read “ “READ” “ I can’t read” “Thereupon he (Gabriel )caught me again and pressed me till I could not bear it any more, and said” The Quran 96:1-5 , the First revaluations.

      During Prophet Mohamed’s lifetime, there was no Quran, only verbally revealed by Mohamed, depending on the challenges he faced and had to deal with Mohamed encouraged the followers o memorize the Quran, and those who trusted him, memorized his words, which Prophet Mohamed claimed was from Allah, through Angel Gabriel Hafiz is someone who memorized the Quran.

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      Eng Ismaeel Marikar,

      Part 2 : (251 words) Q. Who (Really)Originated and Who (Really) Wrote the Quran?

      “A Muslim is one who follows the Quran and sunnah
      and translates it into action by living it.”

      Only after Prophet Mohamed died ( how? Was he poisoned, there is controversy), the followers decided to compile all the different verses and compile into one Book, the Quran, and the urgency was caused by the many who memorized the Quran had diet in a battle at Al-Yamama. Sahih Bukhari 9:89301

      Then Abu Bakr (1st Caliph) and Umar (2nd Caliph) urged Abu Bakr “ I consider it advisable that you should have the Quran collected”, Sahih Bukhari 9:89:301 Abu Bakr gave the task to Zayd ibn Thabit: “ You should search for the fragmentary scripts of the Quran and collect it (in one Book)” Sahih Bukhari 989:301

      Zayd then says it is an almost impossible task, and ‘Shifting a mountain would be easier” Sahih Bukhari 9:89:301 The Hadith also says Prophet Mohamed never ordered such an undertaking

      Zayd: “But Mohamed never said or did that”
      Abu Bakr: “But it is beneficial”. Sahih Bukhari 9:89:301

      “So, Zayd compiled the Quran from leaflets stalks, leather, hides, from stones, and the chests of men” Sahih Bukhari 9:89:301

      From an objective point of view, especially among historians, it is difficult to trust the authenticity of something that was brought together by one person, from completely unknown origins, and then later on turned into a huge book, by multiple other people.

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      Eng Ismaeel Marikar,

      Part 3 : (281 words) Q. Who (Really)Originated and Who (Really) Wrote the Quran?
      “A Muslim is one who follows the Quran and sunnah
      and translates it into action by living it.”

      Considering that we are talking about 7th century Arabia, the accuracy is not credible, because Arabia does not have a credible tradition of books, unlike the Greeks, who wrote the New Testament about 40 years later, and the Buddhist Tipitaka the three baskets, written, 400 years after the founders The three founders, Buddha, Jesus and Mohamed never had a chance to review and edit the scriptural books

      So, the Muslims claim that the Quran is a miracle, and was uncreated “Indeed , it is We who sent down the Quran ad indeed, We will be its guardian” Quran 15:9
      However, there were so many different versions of the Quran, naturally because Prophet Mohamed never had a chance to edit and correct, with the verses varying among the owners

      Furthermore, Arabic is not a unitary language, and so many different dialects with different meanings, s the memorizers and scribes had their own versions of the Quran

      So, the 3rd Caliph Uthman ordered : “ Send us the manuscripts of the Quran, so that we may compile the Quranic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you” ; Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510 This is to unify the Quran, crate a canonized version of the Quran, that will overrule all the other Qurans

      Then Uthman ordered: “Write it in the dialect of the Qurish, the Quran was revealed in their tongue”: Sahih Bukhari 6:61: 510, so that the Quran will not be understood differently by reading it differently

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      Eng Ismaeel Marikar,

      Part 4 : (282 words) Q. Who (Really)Originated and Who (Really) Wrote the Quran?

      “A Muslim is one who follows the Quran and sunnah
      and translates it into action by living it.”

      So, “Uthman sent every Muslim province one copy, and ordered all others to be burnt”, Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510. However, not all the other non-canonic versions of the Quran were burnt, as some refused to burn the copies, and others went unnoticed So, this contradicts with the common Islamic belief that Allah’s words cannot be changed Some say that the differences were very little and insignificant

      However, this is not always the case Most Muslims trust only the Version of the Quran cleared by Uthman, 3rd Caliph (644-656 CE) after Prophet Mohamed’s death 632 CE So, the canonic version of the Quran appeared within about 20 years after Prophet Mohamed’s death, even though he had no opportunity to edit it

      This version and narrative is accepted by the vast majority of Islamic Scholars and by Muslims.

      The Quran is not in a chronological order, and no clear answer comes from the Muslims Some say, the chapter order, was told by Prophet Mohamed. “What I just spoke goes in chapter xyz”.

      Some chapters and verses were put together by Uthman and others independently Most importantly, Chapter 9 (Al Tawbah-The Repentance) , one of the last Chapters and most violent chapter, with no clear beginning, and placed there by Mohamed’s surviving companions

      “The messenger of Allah was taken without explaining whether the chapter (Tawba) was part of another chapter” : Al-Mustadrak 2:230 as Uthman did not know what to do. (So was the Quran uncreated and was there from eternity?)

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      Eng Ismaeel Marikar,

      Part 5 : (295 words) Q. Who (Really)Originated and Who (Really) Wrote the Quran?

      “A Muslim is one who follows the Quran and sunnah
      and translates it into action by living it.”

      Prophet Mohamed died before the Quran was completed ( How did he die? Was he poisoned by those with self-interest?)

      So, the Quran, 114 Chapters, Surahs, and 6236 Verses, Ayats, were rearranged by regular Muslims

      The question is who wrote the Quran? Islamic version is that Allah wrote it However, if you go by historical data and facts, the Quran was written by multiple people, over a long period , just like the New Testament, the Old Testament and the Tipitaka

      Islamic Uncreadtedness Belief: “The Quran is not a “product”, not created The Quran existed with Allah all along, uncreated “

      Is Quran actually Mohamed’s words? Was it actually what Prophet Mohamed said? Waa it really a divine message?
      Quran 33:53, “… And it is not lawful for you to harm the messenger of Allah, or to marry his wives after him, ever. Indeed, that would be in the sight of Allah, an enormity”

      Question, why is this verse there, if the Quran was uncreated for all eternity for all humankind? You decide, based on your beliefs.

      This is where the Reason vs Revelation conflict arises, and that is why the Ulama and Islamic Scholars want to burn Philosophy books, logic books and many science books Darwin’ s books on natural selection, of course would be burnt on the orders of the Ulama, and the Christian priests as well, if they had the power today.

      So, the Divine Revelation vs, Reason debates continues for Muslims, while the Ulama, like the Priests and Monks, maintain their hegemony, and Muslims fall behind.

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      Eng Ismaeel Marikar,

      Part 6 : (291 Words) Q. Who (Really)Originated and Who (Really) Wrote the Quran?

      “A Muslim is one who follows the Quran and sunnah
      and translates it into action by living it.”

      What the Sana’a Manuscript Tells Us About Today’s Quran

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvPMDyBlUPA

      What does the oldest copy of the Quran that we have found tell us?This story is astounding. It gives us a peek into islamic history.

      During the time of Uthman, Arabs controlled at least 9 provinces. And the Hadiths say one Uthmanic Quran was sent to each province.

      The oldest Quran in the world

      https://www.islamicity.org/3093/the-oldest-quran-in-the-world/

      The Othman Koran was compiled in Medina by Othman, the third caliph or Muslim leader.

      Before him, the sacred verses which Muslims believe God gave to Muhammad were memorised, or written on pieces of wood or camel bone.

      To prevent disputes about which verses should be considered divinely inspired, Othman had this definitive version compiled. It was completed in the year 651, only 19 years after Muhammad’s death.

      This priceless Koran is kept in a special glass-fronted vault built into the wall of a tiny inner room.

      About one-third of the original survives – about 250 pages – a huge volume written in a bold Arabic script.

      “The Koran was written on deerskin,” said Mr Akhmedov. “It was written in Hejaz in Saudi Arabia, so the script is Hejazi, similar to Kufic script.”

      It is said that Caliph Othman made five copies of the original Koran. A partial Koran now in the Topkapi Palace in Istanbul is said to be another of these original copies.

      References:

      Ṣan‘ā’ 1 and the Origins of the Qur’ān
      Behnam Sadeghi and Mohsen Goudarzi
      https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NLp

      https://www.scribd.com/document/15962

      Full video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO8Ty

      Yasir Qadhi doubts in Islam video:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb6Td..

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      Eng.Ismaeel Marika,

      Part 7 Who was the Author of the Quran and Who Wrote it.

      “I am a Muslim and i am proud
      of being one.A Muslim is one
      who follows the Quran and sunnah
      and translates it into action by
      living it”

      Eng.Ismaeel Marika, do you as a Muslim, not as an Engineer, believe that Israa and Miraj are true, because it is described in the Quran 17:1?

      The Israa and Miraj refer to, two parts of a miraculous journey that Prophet Muhammad took in one night from Makka to Jerusalem and then an ascension to the heavens.

      https://www.islamicity.org/5843/isra-and-miraj-the-miraculous-night-journey/

      It is believed to have been followed by the Mi’raj, his ascension to heaven. According to some of the Hadith scholars this journey is believed to have taken place just over a year before Prophet Muhammad migrated to from Makka to Madina, on the 27th of Rajab.

      Holy is He Who carried His servant by night from the Holy Mosque (in Makka) to the farther Mosque (in Jerusalem) – whose surroundings We have blessed – that We might show him some of Our signs 1. Indeed He alone is All-Hearing, All-Seeing. (Quran 17:1)

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      Eng Ismaeel Marikar,

      Part 7 : Q. Who (Really)Originated and Who (Really) Wrote the Quran?

      “A Muslim is one who follows the Quran and sunnah
      and translates it into action by living it.”

      Yasir Qadhi Doubts in Islam, and the Quran

      Is Part Fable?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb6TdUVPcE4

      Abdullah Sameer
      Published on Jun 19, 2018
      The story of how academia can destroy even a scholar’s faith in Islam.

      Yasir Qadhi has doubts in Islam regarding the preservation of the Quran and regarding evolution.

      ❇️ Support me at http://abdullahsameer.com/support

      Yasir Qadhi always struck me as a rational individual, a person of academic integrity. I always suspected that he may end up agnostic one day.

      He has come out and said his faith has taken a major blow. That he has come close to a crisis of faith. This is an important development because it shows that even the most strong believers, ones who studied the religion in depth, are not immune to the problems in Islam.

      The narrative of Islam we have been taught is false, and it falls apart under scrutiny.

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        Here is the.last sentence in.Yasir
        Qadhis introduction of of his book
        “Introduction to the Sciences of the Quran” I sincerely.pray that this work helps brings Muslimd closer
        to their religion, that it causes them to grow in their love for the Quran and that i duces them.to further
        their knowlefge of this magnificent
        and glorious book -” the best of all speech “(39:23) Ameen !

        These are.his words..
        No further comment.
        Amarasiri you can eat
        yout words. No difficulty
        since you have always
        minced. Today is Friday
        I have better things to do

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          Eng Ismaeel Marikkar,

          Amarasiri is after the truth, independent of whatever source it comes from, whether Revealed, Reasoned, Observed, Demonstrated, Deduced or otherwise. However, the truth must hold water and should not leak.

          Statements by a believer in his faith or in his theory is insufficient.

          Ancient Greeks and the Church, (based on Joshua in the Bible) claimed that the Earth was stationary and the Sun and The planets went around it. Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler demonstrated with data that the Earth rotated on its axis, and orbited the Sun.

          350 years later the Catholic Church admitted that they were incorrect, but still many Muslims claim that the Sun goes around the Earth and the Earth is spread out like a carpet.

          ( Was The Quran Uncreated or Created? Do you have demonstrations, data one way or the other?)

          Still 25 percent Americans, 33 percent Europeans and perhaps 50 percent Sri Lankan’s and Muslims believe in the geocentric model.

          This is what happens when ones beliefs overshadows reason, demonstrated data and observations, and the fables become true.

          The theory of evolution is demonstrated with data. The Adam and Eve story is a fable in the Bible and the Quran and not demonstrated.

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          Eng Ismaeel Marikar,

          Part 8 : ( 298Words) Q. Who (Really)Originated and Who (Really) Wrote the Quran?

          “No further comment. Amarasiri you can eat yout words.”

          1 ) You, did not read and comprehend my Comment Part 7 , where I referenced what Abdullah Sameer stated and asked, and he was referencing what Yasir Qadhi was stating. It Was NOT Amarasiri, but Amarasiri was Quoting Sameer, because it had some reasonable validity.

          Is Part Fable?

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb6TdUVPcE4

          Abdullah SameerPublished on Jun 19, 2018

          2) Qadhis introduction of of his book
          “Introduction to the Sciences of the Quran” I sincerely.pray …

          That was his belief when he wrote the book in 1999, when he studying at the University of Medina He was fully trained in the Wahhabi-Salafi Orthodoxy He has also written other books and videos.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ammaar_Yasir_Qadhi

          3) You have missed the point raised by Abdullah Sameer, that the Theory of Evolution with all the supporting data is true, and therefore, the Story of Adam and Eve , in the Bible and the Quran, have to be taken as Fables

          What does Quran Surah 3: 7 say? Who are the people of knowledge? Not the common man, not the Wahhabi-Salafi Orthodoxy, but he Philosophers, per Ibn Rushd, in the 12th century.

          Yasir Qadhi , after getting his Ph D at Yale, after putting his thinking hat, is beginning to see it differently, and discarding the brain washings of the Wahhabi-Salafi Orthodoxy of the Al Medina University, who produce brainwashed Wahhabi-Salafi Orthodox Graduates, who can’t think rationally

          The GMAT scores of the Wahhabi-Salafi graduates is the lowest in the World, at 330. Sufi Turkey at 540, Shia Iran at 520 and Buddhist -Hindu Idol Worshiping Sri Lanka at 480, and the Satan following(per Hadith of Najd) Wahhabi-Salafi Graduates at 330.

          https://humanvarieties.org/2014/02/02/quick-post-lvs-national-iqs-predicts-gmat-scores-across-173-nations/

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    In the name of religion

    One of the two women who infuriated Indian traditionalists by entering Sabarimala was attacked by her mother-in-law Tuesday as soon as she returned home after days on the run.

    Surprizes happens in the midst of a community/family different viewpoint Immotianal action.

    Followers believe letting in women of menstruating age goes against his wishes.

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      Why go so far as Sabarimala, just 2 weeks ago in our country one man be-headed his wife and hid her head, later when the police caught the murderer husband he confessed to the crime but told the police that he wanted to do a Pooja to that head so that she gets a good matching body in the next world (no joke it was in the news) OMG what on earth has happened to mankind! – no offence to anybody in reporting this incidence on this forum.

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    Ayathuray Rajasingam,

    Do you seriously believe those stories? There is a difference between history and story, please do not create your history out of a fairy-tale.

    Do you think even Shiva exists or existed? You believe a human-being, Ravana moved a mountain? So you also believe that there was a Anuman who was able to fly from Sri Lanka to India? He..he

    You guys think SL history is your lunch menu to change the way you want it to have it..

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      ghk,
      Whether Lord Shiva existed or not is a controversial issue. But I follow a God-centred religion which involves a network of meditation, abiding by righteousness, believe in re-incarnation etc, etc., and which never believes in conversion other than non-violence. We do not have a specific religious scripture, but the most ancient scripture is Rig Veda in which Lord Shiva was quoted as Rudra. The LTTE and the Islamic terrorists attempted on my life but those were proved to be futile exercises because I believe in Lord Shiva who monitors everyone. It is very difficult to explain all these. Whether Ravana existed or not, he is known for the last 7,000 – 9,000 years or more during which period the Ramayana was composed and still its influence has spread up to Indonesia.

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    There is a YouTube clip presented by a young American who has lived in Saudi Arabia for several years, listen to what he says about Saudi Arabia, the title of the video is:-

    “Saudi Teen Girl Flees to Canada, Media Loves It”

    this clip will give an idea of how life is in KSA – especially for those who have no knowledge about it –

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      RE: Wahhabi Salafi Orthodoxy & An Apostate

      EXTENDED INTERVIEW: Rahaf Mohammed on escaping Saudi Arabia to Canada

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJIOxnr_YiE

      CBC News: The National
      Published on Jan 16, 2019

      In her own words, Saudi teen Rahaf Mohammed talks to Susan Ormiston about fleeing her family, how she finally ended up in Canada and what she plans to do next.

      The National is CBC Television’s flagship news program. Airing six days a week, the show delivers news, feature documentaries and analysis from some of Canada’s leading journalists.

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      RE: Wahhabi Salafi Orthodoxy & An Apostate,

      Saudi Women, Unveiled

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNFNxFlLzrc

      60 Minutes
      Published on Mar 18, 2018
      A 60 Minutes team returns from Saudi Arabia and talks about how the society is changing,
      especially for women

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      RE: Wahhabi Salafi Orthodoxy & An Apostate

      Saudi teen refugee Rahaf Mohammed makes public statement

      CBC News
      Streamed live on Jan 15, 2019

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXTgM4wBZiw

      Rahaf Mohammed, the Saudi teen granted asylum in Canada will make her first public statement since arriving in Toronto over the weekend. Mohammed received asylum after she fled her allegedly abusive family.

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    Hello Cholan,

    I smell you are Tamil trash from Malaysia the Sakkili indentured labours that came from India. You don’t hate Islam. You are simply pissed because the Malays have put you in the right place where you belong. since you have no way to come out of your dump just like the rest of your lot you want to go and show your hate to Muslims all over the world. Bro the Malays call your type Parayas and you can do nothing about it.

    Just suck it in Bro. this is your fate. You will die miserably knowing unable to rule over the Malay people.

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