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A Reply To Dr Silva’s ‘A Plea To Our Muslim Brethren; Please Look In The Mirror’

By Mass L. Usuf

Mass Usuf

Reference the article titled, ‘A Plea to our Muslim Brethren, Please look in the Mirror’ appearing in the Colombo Telegraph of 7th April 2018 written by Dr. Sarath Gamini De Silva. Upon reading it, what came to my mind was how a prominent Sinhalese personality blamed the Muslims on the ‘Wanda Pethi’ issue. “Why are you guys keeping silent? Why don’t you respond to allegations made against you?  Your silence conveys the message that what has been said is true.” He ended with a paradox saying, “because of your silence, even the fellow who said the lie will get confused and start thinking if he has in fact told the truth.”

Some statements made by Dr. De Silva needs clarifications. If not, it will pass as if he has stated the truth. I will not be judgmental about his motives for writing this but, I will be objective.

You admit that the recent riots were, “cleverly manipulated by a group of people waiting to create chaos. This was possible because of the background of suspicion perpetuated among the Sinhalese over the years”. Firstly, I have to ask you, “who are this group of people?”  Secondly, “who perpetuated suspicion among the Sinhalese?” Were they by any chance Muslims?

World Scenario

Under this sub title you have shrewdly packaged a lot of words straight from the vocabulary of the Islamaphobes. ISIS, jihad, killings, suicide bombs, large scale murders etc. I prefer to ignore the Islamaphobically packaged clichés as these words have been prostituted and clarified already. Here, you also say, ‘enforced conversions to Islam’.  Now, this is a huge lie. The Quran states, “There is no compulsion in religion”. (See Chapter 2 Verse 256).

Interestingly, you say that in Madrasas training is given to instigate violence.  I am wondering to which Madrasa did the LTTE leader Prabhakaran go to. He was responsible for thousands of killings.  To which Madrasa did Hitler go to?  He exterminated six million Jews? Or, more recently, George Bush who murdered millions of Iraqis.  You can add to this Mao Tse Tung, Pol Pot etc. who killed millions of innocent people.  None of them were Muslims nor were they ‘trained’ in Madrasas.  In fact, the background of the latter two was Buddhism. My dear Doctor, it is highly irresponsible on your part to spew the same hatred that is already seen in the media.

Laws of a country

You have said that Muslim countries do not allow bringing into their countries artefacts of Buddha or Hindu gods. It is incorrect for you to take the internal laws of one country and paint all the Muslim countries black. In many Muslim countries there are number of churches, temples etc. 

Can you practise medicine in the U.K. with your Sri Lankan MBBS? To practise in the U.K., you have to follow their rules. Similarly, if a country has a law of its own, then learn to respect that law.  If Malaysia says, ‘drug traffickers would be put to death’, we must abide by that law.  We cannot question their law. If you do not like their law, do not go there. 

Non-tolerance

The point is one wants to earn petro-dollars to fatten his/her purse; Build homes, get electronic gadgets, educate children abroad and enjoy all the modernities. And, Doctor, you have the audacity to speak of non-tolerance towards the non-believers. This is like condemning the very hand that fed you. The year 2016 recorded the highest foreign remittances amounting to USD 7,241.5 million equivalent to Rs.1054.5 billion. You and I are surviving in this country, partly because of this money. Let us be grateful.

Speaking about non-tolerance – Let me give you an example right here, in Sri Lanka. Muslim students are not allowed to wear their Shalwar Khamis dress and enter into a Sinhalese School.  Despite an Education Department Circular permitting such dresses. Tell me how tolerant is the non-believer towards the believer in one’s own country and also, violating the Circular? In fact, there is a Supreme Court case pending.  My dear Sinhala brother, even when criticising try to be fair, reasonable and objective.

Love and compassion

“You state that Quran teaches love and compassion for fellow human beings but we see little evidence of that”.  Shall we consider Mettha, Muditha, Karuna, Upekkha and see the evidence of it in the death and destruction during the 1983 riots, during the LTTE war, the Aluthgama, Gintota, Ampara, Digana, Theldeniya riots?  It is normal for a monk to say, “Siyalu Sathwayo Niduk Wethwa, Neerogi Wethwa” (may all living beings be happy and healthy) – it teaches compassion, love not only of human beings but of all living beings including those in the animal kingdom.  Consider the half a million Rohingyas of Buddhist Burma whose houses were burnt, villages pillaged, harvests stolen, men, women, children, infants murdered.  Women some of whom were raped in the presence of the husband, father or son.

Dear Sinhalese brother, Buddhism has nothing to do with all these criminal activities.  In the same way, do not equate the acts of some who call themselves Muslims (could be non-muslim mercenaries too) and speak about love and compassion in the Quran. Yes, the Quran speaks of love and compassion in a manner that none other extols for the peace and harmony of human beings.  Please read the Quran.

You write, “While claiming to be just one people of Sri Lanka, Muslims are doing their best to show that they are different to those of all other races or faiths.”  Logically, this statement leads to an absurd conclusion, reductio ad absurdum. Further, there is no correlation between the two.

For example, the entire humanity is one people. Nationally, each country is different. Can anyone say that one country is trying its best to show it is different from all other countries? When, in fact, they are already different.

If you as a learned man are confused between the identity of citizenship and the identity of a person racially or religiously, what can one expect from the lesser mortals?  As citizens, we are one people.  As a nation, we are one people. We travel abroad with the Sri Lankan passport. When we are abroad, we call ourselves Sri Lankans.  Racially and religiously, the Muslims are different like any other. Logically, there is no need for Muslims to show they are different.

Call for prayer

You say, “the loudspeaker calls from mosques for prayers ……a source of irritation”.  You also have the temerity to state about pirith as ‘occasional’ chanting.  Be honest to your own conscience.  The call for prayer at most takes 3 to 4 minutes.  In contrast, the pirith and all other forms of chanting every day, early morning at 5 a.m. and in the evening, continues at very high decibel for at least half an hour. In many of the junctions one can experience this. While you say that the 3 to 4 minutes call for prayer is an irritation, have the Muslims ever complained against this daily continuous pirith chanting?  Who is then more tolerant?

In addition, to these on Poya days one can here songs (some of which I also enjoy). Sadly, the Buddhist songs of Mohideen Baig are rarely heard these days.  The social media has it that he is a ‘tambiyah’ and his songs should not be played. Is this tolerance?  Personally, I am against the Muslim call for prayer over the public-address system.  It must stop. What is your stance good doctor in relation to your ‘occasional’ pirith?

Wild allegations

You allege that there is an abundant source of supply coming from rich countries and Muslims are establishing schools, universities. Are you making wild allegations and condescending yourself to the level of racists who spread these types of exaggerations?  What do you expect the Muslim child who is not given admission in government schools to do? To sleep at home or find alternative education. The demand has obviously created many private educational institutions. Why do not you speak about the so many non-muslim private educational institutions?  You speak about universities. What about the Buddhist and Pali university?  What exactly is your motive doctor?

Wilpattu and Dighavapi are subjects that have been prostituted by politicians, NGOs, racist organisations and by some pseudo environmentalists with vested interests.  This subject is stinking and too putrid for any comment.

Rule of Law

You complain that the non-Muslim is helpless (the majority are the victims theory!) because the rule of law is not implemented in relation to Wilpattu and Dighavapi.  As for the Rule of Law, I will support you fully.  The rule of law is supreme and should be implemented against everybody.  But, the Muslims are also helpless.  Why is the rule of law not implemented against the racists who attacked, killed and caused destruction in Aluthgama, Gintota, Ampara, Digana, Theldeniya etc.  The rule of law should also be implemented against the monks who were directly involved in these violences.  The rule of law must be implemented by charging them under the ICCPR without soft peddling charges under the Penal Code. Have you forgotten about Lasantha, Ekneligoda, Thajudeen, the list can go on?  So which rule of law are you talking about?

Speaking about the rule of law, the constitution guarantees the freedom to practise one’s religion. Then why doctor are you bothered about the number of mosques?  The fundamental rights guarantee to dress what one wants. Then why doctor are you commenting on the Muslim’s dress? Fundamental rights guarantee right to education? Then why doctor are you questioning about the Schools?  So, then, what is your concept of the rule of law?

False claims

You make another fantastic claim of “Maldivian invasion” into Sri Lanka because their land mass is getting submerged.  You state: “The Sinhalese and other non-Muslims appear to have become a threatened majority”.   See the blatant discrimination in this.  Then what about the Muslims in this country?  Are not the Muslims part of this country and feel threatened by this alleged fantastic theory of invasion as much as you do?  You discriminate and then want the Muslim to look in the mirror!

Another wrong claim in your writing is that the medical profession immediately responded to the ‘Wanda pethi’ issue. Were you living in Mars all these days?  The ‘vanda pethi’, ‘drug-laced toffees’, ‘gel’ in the ladies’ bra and under wear were utterly, baseless, deprecating lies that has been doing its rounds in the social media etc. for over a year.  Where were you and your doctors then?  If they had acted at that time, the Ampara incident would not have taken place. 

I absolutely agree with the idea that Muslims must look in the mirror.  Let me tell you and, my Sinhala brethren, please look in the mirror yourselves. It takes two hands to clap.  Besides, the Sinhalese brother is our elder brother.

Finally, this reply originated because of my respect to the wisdom of my Sinhalese friend who said, “do not keep silent, speak your side of the story.  If not, the lies will be believed as the truth”.

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    LTTE’s suicide killings were targeted at the army and navy. It began with Miller’s attack on a convey during ‘operation liberation’ and included several incidents where ‘Black Tigers’ sacrificed their lives by ramming their boats into much larger, often Israeli supplied Navy boats.
    Then there have been suicide attacks which have left civilians dead but the target has been either military or economic (example: Central bank ). Dead included Sinhalese, Tamils and anyone who happened to be there.
    The attack by the cowardly Muslim and LTTE’s turncoat Karuna has been on unarmed civilians

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      Oh God, it is not even 5 decades, the typical ones, started to change the reality and history. Few from the LTTE’s civilian killing long list:

      Central Bank bombing 31 January 1996
      Dehiwala train bombing (1996) 24 July 1996
      Kattankudy mosque massacre 3 August 1990

      Anuradhapura massacre: “The LTTE hijacked a bus May 14, 1985 and entered Anuradhapura. As the LTTE cadres entered the main bus station, they opened fire indiscriminately with automatic weapons killing and wounding many civilians who were waiting for buses. LTTE cadres then drove to the Sri Maha Bodhi shrine and gunned down nuns, monks and civilians as they were worshipping inside the Buddhist shrine”

      The Aluth Oya massacre (Also known as Habarana massacre, Good Friday Massacre) was the massacre of 127 Sinhalese civilians, including children and women

      And the list can go too long, please search in Wikipedia that has all list of civilian killings done by LTTE

      LTTE targetted only civilians out of Jaffna pen. (Because after killing few Sinhalese and Muslim existed there, they did not find anyone except Tamils)

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        Some of these so called Sinhalese massacres were the work of the STF who killed their own Sinhalese civilians and shifted the blame on the LTTE to show the world that LTTE is brutal. Total number of so called Sinhalese and Muslim killings by the LTTE is around 3000. Total number Tamil civilian killings at the hands of the Sri Lankan armed forces/police/government . Sinhalese and Muslim thugs and criminals down south and Muslim home guards in the north and east is 300000. Hundreds of Hindu temples and Christian churches were deliberately destroyed bombed by the Sinhalese armed forces /police and Muslim home guards in the north and east and by Sinhalese and Muslim mobs in down south. Ethnic cleaning and displacement of Tamils is still taking place. You forgot to mention all this Sinhalese racist. It is not the Tamils and the Muslims who are to blame but Sinhalese racists like you and the all Sinhalese governments from the time of independence , who sponsored Sinhalese Buddhist fascism and state sponsored terrorism against Tamils civilians. What did you expect the Tamils to do eternally cop this in their own land.? This land is not Sinhalese Buddhist. 1/3 of the island from ancient times was Tamil and was ruled by Tamils. Sinhalese had no peep in to these ancient Tamil lands in the north and east of the island , until the British handed these lands and the hapless Tamil on a platter to Sinhalese racists like you

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          I did not believe of rebirth but after reading Real Siva Sankaran Sharma’s comments in this forum I am tempted to believe Joseph Goebbels has been reborn as a Tamil.

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            Mr. Mass Usuf and Dr Silva,

            Re:” A Reply To Dr Silva’s ‘A Plea To Our Muslim Brethren; Please Look In The Mirror’

            “I absolutely agree with the idea that Muslims must look in the mirror. Let me tell you and, my Sinhala brethren, please look in the mirror yourselves. It takes two hands to clap. Besides, the Sinhalese brother is our elder brother.

            Absolutely. Both the Para-Sinhala and Para-Muslims should look in the mirror

            Revelation vs. Reason

            Brainwashing vs. Thinking

            Ex-Muslim makes Zakir Naik storm off stage

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndpsuvg48fc

            Ex-Muslim Atheist debates with Zakir Naik who epic-fails to impress the young medical student with his lies about the true meaning of the term scientific theory, zakir then rage quits from mic and storms off,.

            Will Sinhala Buddhists storm off stage when the lies and imaginations of Mahawmsa are exposed?

            Mahavamsa- An Insult To The Buddha!

            https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mahavamsa-an-insult-to-the-buddha/

            In this “wonderland” called Sri Lanka, and in this day and age, one still comes across ‘academically’ educated, ( including doctors) and supposedly intelligent ‘Buddhists’, but sadly lacking in wisdom, who reverently believe, that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb, and walked seven steps, while lotuses blossomed, under his feet!

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            Mass Usuf and Dr. Silva,

            RE: A Reply To Dr Silva’s ‘A Plea To Our Muslim Brethren; Please Look In The Mirror’

            A different Perspective on Islam, Muslims and Mohamed.

            Dr. Deepak Chopra on “Muhammad”: What is unique about the story of Muhammad?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IU8oBjnqNM

            Deepak Chopra speaks about what makes the story of Muhammad so compelling, which he fictionalized in his book “Muhammad: A Story of the Last Prophet.” For more information on the book and Deepak Chopra, visit http://www.intent.com/muhammad

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          Hey Mass, could you write about Muslim racists from Rishard Badurdeen’s party demonstrating against the election of a Tamil as the deputy Mayor of Kalmunai. Is this not rank racism. Kalmunai was an almost total Tamil town. Over the years Muslims who were living in the area bought lands fro Tamils and settled there. Now Muslim villages surrounding Kalmunai Town were linked to Kalmunai in order to make it a Municipality resulting in Muslim majority. Cunning Muslim politicians got round Sinhalese and got this done to deny Tamils their land. This is the reason why Sinhalese are up against Muslim expansionism to eradicate it.

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            Al-faqurlah the swine, if what you are writing here is true the Tamils should be up against the Muslim not Sinhalese. You say cunning Muslim politicians got round Sinhalese and did this so the Sinhalese too should be blamed. What an idiot you are.

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              Mohomad, if you want to know who is a swine, go and look into a mirror. Stop grunting about when Islamic racism in Sri Lanka is exposed, you idiot.

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                Al-faqurlah, you see your face as swine in the mirror, that is why everybody looks swine to you. Buddhist racism in Sri Lanka is exposed, you idiot.

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              Mohomed,

              The stupid worm, Al-faqurlah is just a proof his father used low-quality condom.
              One man’s mistake is making many people suffer with this worm

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                Amila the Islamic infidel, Muslim are the worst racists. Unfortunately for you since Sinhalese are ruling the country, you have no chance of carrying out it. What is happening is that when Lions and Tigers fought, Foxes waited in the side line encouraging the fight and eating their dead carcasses. Due to this foxes became fat and are throwing their weight about. Lions have killed many Tigers and have driven the rest out. So now they are going after foxes to kill them and drive them away. You swine this is the law of the jungle.

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            “Kalmunai was an almost total Tamil town. Over the years Muslims who were living in the area bought lands fro Tamils and settled there”

            Come on guys, why buying the land from Tamils is illegal or a crime? Tamils wanted to pay the traffickers millions to reach EU/AU by hook or by crook and they sold the lands to reach there and earn more in those destinations. – Why blame Muslims?

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              Another swine called Mohamed grunting. Will the Muslims allow to investigate into whether it was legally earned, ill-gotten wealth or given by Muslim funds.

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          Oh may be this RSSS talking about the 300,00 crows died in the crows island due to inhaling poisonous gas.

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          Real Siva Sankaran Sharma:

          “Some of these so called Sinhalese massacres were the work of the STF who killed their own Sinhalese civilians and shifted the blame on the LTTE to show the world that LTTE is bruta”

          Unfortunately, LTTE could not fool the world, but dumb caste junkies like you who invested entire life-saving on promises of 8th grade drop out for Eelam greed.

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          RSSS:

          Likewise, had you managed to make Indian Central Govt believe that killing of Rajiv Gandhi was work of Pakistan Intelligency and not your innocent saint boys, things would have changed up-side down? Your holiday home could have been in Australia and home could have been in Eelam?

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      Mass L Usuf, YOU HAVE NAILED IT in the forehead of the SINHALA ZIONIST RACIST MAFIA, which is in full control mismanaging the country and which is being pumped with ARAB MUSLIM MONEY unknowingly by the Muslims of which is then used against their own Muslim brothers and their religion of Islam. SRI LANKA is a country with a history of betrayal repeatedly made against their own friends and their own people by the set of RULING ELITES connected to the ISRAELI backed Evil Zionist system that manipulates the political order and the governance.

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      Mass Usuf,

      RE A Reply To Dr Silva’s ‘A Plea To Our Muslim Brethren; Please Look In The Mirror’

      //”how a prominent Sinhalese personality blamed the Muslims on the ‘Wanda Pethi’ issue. “Why are you guys keeping silent? Why don’t you respond to allegations made against you? Your silence conveys the message that what has been said is true.” He ended with a paradox saying, “because of your silence, even the fellow who said the lie will get confused and start thinking if he has in fact told the truth.”//

      Thanks for the write up. Is stupidity and ignorance a virtue for Muslims?

      If you keep repeating a lie long enough, and that is the only news or information left, people will believe you.So, if you disagree,have information, challenge it. The prominent Sinhalese personality was correct. Reading between the lines, that could be interpreted as the Muslims being stupid low IQ( mean 79), do not know what to do, ever since Revelation over Reason and Observation, that was one of the main causes of falling behind the others.

      Renown Astrophysicist Dr. Neil Degrasse Tyson explains what went wrong with Islam.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZCuF733p88

      The Geocentric model. where the Sun and the planets revolve around the Earth was there from Aristotle and the Church until it was shown to be incorrect by Copernicus, Galileo and Kepler, 1,800 years later.

      Are you going to wait 1,800 years to correct the “Wanda Pethi” What about the Sulfur, “Wada Kaha” drinking idiots in the 1950’s with the Total Solar Eclipse? Will those same Para-Sinhala “Buddhist” idiots a generation or two later again drink “Wada Kaha”, Sulfur on Dec 26, 2018 in Northern Sri Lanka, Aethho-Desh.to see an annular eclipse, which occurs when the moon passes over the center of the sun’s face but a sliver of the sun’s disk remains visible. It will be visible in Saudi Arabia, India, Sumatra and Borneo.

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        Mass L. Usuf ,

        RE: A Reply To Dr Silva’s ‘A Plea To Our Muslim Brethren; Please Look In The Mirror’

        Social Media is only a Tool.

        The core problem, is that the perpetuates are not punished and it is a failure of the state,

        Not only those who participate in such violence, but also those who instigate violence and provide organizational strength have to be made accountable

        http://www.dailymirror.lk/article/Social-Media-is-only-a-Tool-148284.html

        In an interview with the Daily Mirror Ambika Satkunanathan, one of the Commissioners at the Human Rights Commission of Sri Lanka said that social media is only a tool that is used to incite hatred or violence and that it isn’t the cause of hatred or violence. She said that when impunity isn’t addressed perpetrators are emboldened as a result of which they continue to commit such offences. Therefore, she stressed that in order to prevent the recurrence of such acts perpetrators should be held accountable.

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      It is a lie to say that LTTE targeted only the military or economic. The Tamil Terrorists targeted many civilians (near Fort Railway station, Dollar Farm, Buddhist temples, schools, buses, passenger trains). However, I agree they killed their own as do animals. Hardly a difference between Tamil Terrorists, their supporters and animals. At the end they too got put down like animals but, the Sri Lankan military only targeted the Terrorists.

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        lal loo

        “It is a lie to say that LTTE targeted only the military or economic.”

        Very sad.
        However you ought to remember that your VP did kill 1200 Hindians in order to preserve Sri Lankan Sovereignty (whatever that maybe) and ruined Ranil’s only chances of becoming president.

        Don’t forget VP created a huge opportunity and market for the Sinhalese to make humongous money, the arms merchants, state functionaries, metal merchants, from commanders to soldiers, rice suppliers, boots suppliers, ……………………….. all made billions. I should think they are eternally grateful to the psychopath.

        How much did you personally benefit from 30 years of war and numerous riots.

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      Mass L. Usuf .

      Re: A Reply To Dr Silva’s ‘A Plea To Our Muslim Brethren; Please Look In The Mirror

      Were We Really Created by God? – Sadhguru

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diJrraOLF5k

      Do you know or you do not know?
      Does Dr Silva, Mr. Mass L. Usuf and others know?
      What about your ignorance? Others ignorance?

      What does your ignorance say about

      1. How life started on Earth?

      2. When life got started on Earth

      3. How did life on Earth end up the way it was, including the ants, plants, animals and humans? Which life forms have a soul, and which ones do not have a soul?

      Did religion get ahead of philosophy in explaining things?

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      LTTE can also be an abbreviation of “Little”? Little minds, little bodies because they forcefully used the children & women to fight against SL Army?

      So they are the only terrorist group that was funded by civilians, and used civilians to attack other civilians – Art of Eelam

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    USUF:IT i s not pont of reasoning with the Muslims. that is what you say. YOur religion is about 1400 years.Why don’t you talk about the mayhem that your religion or islamic followers in the name of the religion had done. Do you say, all the conquests from turkey to Hindia, Hindukush massacres are all because of other religions. buddhism is 2600 years old. buddhists have killed. but, they have not killed in the name of the buddhism. Sunnis are killing shias and are destroying Shia mosques. In Sri lanka, which is the majority sufies are discriminated, there toms are forced to remove. Are you saying there is no modern Islamic problem, the Wahabis, DAESH, ISIS, ISlamic State AL NUSARa, AL QAEDA, BOKOHARAM. YOu can not say ever thing is because of the western countries. Itis you muslims participate in it just the way Sinhala (notbuddhists along, YOu do not know whether others involved for sure). Acknolwdge it is you muslims, so it is your religious teachings are th problem. Muslims migration and Muslim birth rates are a problem in Sri lanka too. Even the foreigners admit it. Sri lanka’s prominenet islamic population is SUNNIS. Sunnis are from Saudi Arabia and Sunnis create problems all over the world. Even SAudi Arabia admit Wahabism disseminated from there. Why do you cover up the problem. Only the Wahabis who are Sunnis the problem. Evensome muslims admist it. but some of you muslims hide it.

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      JimSofty The DISINFORMER:

      “Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth”

      For those with an open mind:

      Wikipedia -List of wars by death toll

      YouTube

      WAR = PROFIT [Documentary]

      What I’ve Learned About US Foreign Policy: The War Against the Third

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      Yo Jim, The same type of Islamopobhic allegation are made against the Muslims or anybody who is standing in the way of the ZIONIST system which is in control of the affairs of the present day world, is made here against the Muslims this time. There was a time when the Jew controlled Zionist system went against the VIETNAMESE, they came up with similar PSY-OPS coined terms like VIET-CONGS, GOOKS ETC…thus reducing the their intended adversaries into sub humans before the KILLING SPREE BEGINS. They did massacre millions of innocent Buddhists and other peasants in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia by using weapons of mass destruction and with chemical weapon too. That was the time when the Albert Pike’s WORLD WARS and future conflicts engineered in the Middle east and in the ASIA region as according to their FREEMASONIC New World Order to bring about Order out of Chaos(ORDO AB CHAO) works. If you want any further clarification, just check….”ADOLPH HITLER: AGENT OF THE ROUND TABLE” in the website called (conspiracy school). By reading ANYONE WILL come to know the exact ways the system in the world functions (Including the Sri Lankan one which is a part of this evil set).

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        The US created Pol Pot to kill its own people in Cambodia. Like how they are using the Govigama Elite families who are the only ones to eligible to become Predidents and Prime Ministers. Pol Pot first used Buddhism as the tool gather people around him. He then cleverly used CIA mind control methods to drag a large section of the people to follow him and those who opposed his psychopathic system was murdered in cold blood, like what Wirathu is using against the Rohingyas. Its the same techniques and the same bloody Jews who are manipulating the events. In the same veins you find the Govi Elite criminals. These bastards are killing, robbing and inciting people to fight against each other in the same old bloody agenda as according to which they are being contracted to… the Agenda 21 of the UN to depopulate the earth. Have anybody watched David Icke’s – “THE AGENDA 21 , the project to kill you” Video in YouTube? then please watch to know the dynsmics of the killing of innocent people in mass scale. RAJAPAKSE family is thus very useful to the Zionists to achieve their goal. Thats why Ranil and Maithree are intentionally and deliberately trying to destroy the YAHAPAlanaya concept to bring in the GOTA (the mass killer and a super thief) as the next (successor ) Psychopathic ruler in the Govi bloodline. The initial work has been done…. only time will tell how they are going to hand over the rule to him. Kandy riots against the Muslims is one such dynamics in their secret evil project. 90% Sinhala Politicians and professionals, mainstream monks, social order are tied to this evil scheme.

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      Donkey Jim softy, can you compare a 2600 years Buddhism to 1400 years old Islam. Any intelligent person in the world say 2600 years old is more barbaric than 1400 years old one. If a Buddhist have killed it was Buddhist who had, naturally those who follow Buddhism. So need to say in the name of Buddhism. See Mayanmar, they said to protect Buddhist citizens. See what your racist Sinhalese thugs and their racist thuggish monks says, “to protect Sinhalese Buddhist” So isn’t it in the name of Buddhism. You speak about Sri Lankan Muslims, Sinhalese and Tamils and say who had terrorist and now who have terrorist. Is it because you have donkey or swine brain bringing examples which have no connections to Sri Lanka?

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    It is you muslims who use western human rights, minority rights all of which are used to gain advantage for the western countries here to ISlamize the country. It is well known that majority and minority problems in Sri lanka, I mean LTTE problems, Tamil, – sinhala Problems created tribal Tamils, TNA and now Muslim problems all have the importance of Sri lanka being close to China, and a country in the middle of the Indian OCean. USA wqants Indian Ocean’s dominence. You muslim tries to cover up that gain advantage for both the Sunnis in Sri lanka and for your financier. It may come through Saudi Arabia or another middle eastern country. In what ever way, you are helping foreign powers and your islamization project and nothing else. WE know,all over Asia, buddhism is a target. What is happening in Sri lanka had happened else where and is happening else where.

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      Look at this tribal intelligent, intellectual Jim softy writings, just like a tribal donkey. Now he know what is USA, Saudi and middle-eastern countries targeting through Sunnis. This bugger should be in Sri Lankan intelligent service, at least tie him in the backyard of intelligent service department so he will keep on braying with secret news.

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    Again this Dravidian immigrant South Indian Tamil Muslim is cunningly targeting the Tamils by bringing the LTTE unnecessarily into this argument and comparing them to Hitler and Nazis. Comparing the Taliban and ISIS to the Nazis is more appropriate as these people were targeting certain races , ethnicities and religions for no reason and committing brutal acts on them. However this man will never mention them. The LTTE are no saints but they came into being due to state sponsored Sinhalese racism and Muslim opportunism and backstabbing against the islands Tamils that had started from independence. Horrific atrocities crimes and discrimination was committed on the island’s Tamils and the island’s fake Arab Muslims, who are ethnic Tamil immigrants from South India , also joined the Sinhalese and eagerly participated in these atrocities for crumbs from the Sinhalese table. So far this man or any other Muslim has not acknowledged this but keep on playing the victim card. Many Sinhalese have acknowledged their part but not a single Muslim. The LTTE targeted Sinhalese soldiers and Muslim and Sinhalese thugs and criminals in the north and east who were killing raping and harassing the Tamils. There were other civilian causalities but they were minimal. The LTTE is responsible for around 1-5% of the civilian causality during the war. The Sri Lankan armed forces the Muslims home guards in the east and Sinhalese and Muslim criminals and thugs in the south were responsible for 95% or more of the civilian atrocities and 99% of their victims were innocent Tamil civilians. Has this man or even one Muslim commentator even commented about this or the horrific war crimes committed on the Tamils in Vani in May 2009. When over 145000 Tamils civilians were deliberately killed by the Sri Lankan armed forces and 300000 were incarcerated in Nazi like concentration camps. Muslims dancing on the streets celebrating with the Sinhalese racists and holding victory parades. Very Nazi like. Where was this man and other Muslim bloggers then?

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      Oh my god, why can’t you Australoid crow RSSS stop calling Moors as Tamil Muslims from South India. At least say Tamil speaking Muslims from south India. Even majority of Muslims there unless they were recent converts don’t say they are Tamil. What is so special for you to put us in your Australoid crow baskets. See the deliberate lies you are writing about your LTTE and Tamil got killed by Muslim home guards. In Sinhala they say “hukku baba” that is a child with a teat. You seems to branding your terrorist as that.

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        Some one originally posted this on this site and I saved this. This from the Hindu. A renown Arab scholar speaks about Tamil Muslims. Tamil Muslims in Sri Lanka are called ” Moor” This name has nothing to do with race of people from North African origin or even Arabs. It was a derogatory term given by the Portuguese to all South Asian Muslims, as they hated and looked down upon the Muslim Moors who were defeated and chased of the Iberian peninsular. just before their travels.. Hence the word Moor to any Muslim they met. Tamil speaking Muslims in Tamil Nadu identify themselves as Tamils , even the ones with a bit of Arab. 80-90% of the Muslims in Tamil Nadu are Tamil speaking Tamil Muslims and the rest Urdu speaking Deccani Muslims whose ancestors migrated from North India. Tamil Muslims largely live in the south of the state and the Urdu speakers in the northern urban cities. The late Indian president Abdul Kalam the father of Indian atomic/space science was a very proud Tamil and a Muslim. He belonged to a Tamil Marrikar family from Ramanathapuram. Singer Mohideen Baig’s actual name is Mohideen Pitchchai ( Meaning poor or to beg in Tamil. Miskin in Arabic) He changed it to Baig( Beg) , Many of the Malaysian Prime Ministers have Mamak ( Tamil Muslim) ancestry. This includes Mahathir Mohammed.
        http://www.thehindu.com/books/books-reviews/research-on-tamil-muslims/article19125378.ece#!
        This is from a renowned Arab scholar. Even the Arabs are aware that you Tamil converts to Islam and are not fooled by your ridiculous claims. A little bit of Arab does not make you Arab.

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          RSSS crow here is the answer for your fabrications. Abdul Kalam from a family of Muslim merchants who were from mixed descendants of merchants like Marikkar, Rawther. Lebbai, Mophlas etc. His family was not from tree climbers. Muslims having such titles considered as merchants. You go to Chennai and ask a Tamil who are Marikkars. Many Urdu speaking Muslims from Andhra Pradesh settled in many parts of South India like Chennai, Vellore, Madurai etc. Mohideen Baig was from such family. He lived in Dematagoda Road, Maradana. They speak Urdu. His cousin Sheriff worked in Madras Sri Lankan consulate as secretary, his Family too speak Urdu. There were many Urdu speaking South Indian families who were settled in Sri Lanka. Most of them intermarried with Moors and now go as Moors. If you take Mohideen baig’s children’s birth certificate, their ethnicity is known as Moors. Don’t take Pitchai OR Pichai as beggars. This is normally refers to a Boy according to Hindu. What about Sundar Pichai, CEO, Google, Mariam Pitchai former AIADMK minister etc. Muslims may have burrowed such title. So you think all these people were from begging families like your pimping and tree climbing generations . The web link you give of Dr. K.M.A.Ahmad Zubair is not an Arab scholar but an Arabic scholar attached to Department of Arabic at the Kerala University. He is an Kerala Muslim. He does not say Muslims are Tamil but Tamil speaking people and in spoken language an admixture of Arabic words. Sri Lanka Moors spoken Tamil language you can see lot of Arabic words and variants of Arabic words. Why don’t you contact him and ask whether he is from Tamil converts.

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            The Word Pichchai is begging or alms. Pichchiappa the real name which means the “Lord Who Begs”- Siva

            Same way the “Kanththappa” means “The Lord Who Wears Rags or Loin Cloth”- Muruga.
            Portuguese did not use the your spelling for Mapillai Muslims. You look likes copied from Jaffnahistory.com

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          Pichchai, the word is begging or alms, but Pichchaiappa is the “Load Who Begs”. As a name Pichchai and Appa cannot be separated. You know “Muni-Aandi” though both words can denote derogatory meaning but when combined it the “Lord Who Lives in Cemetery”(Siva-the Indus Valley Brahmins who rejected their urban style of life and withdrew to jungle). But probably the poor Muslim women who took the name to Muslims community might have been not aware of it. As a matter of fact a Musal man cannot be named as Pichchaiappa or a Christian cannot be named as Kanthappa. They are pure religious names. I am not sure on Sundar Pichchai’s name. He might be cut shot as he knows in the Western world Pichchai sounds a sweet name, irrelevant of its meaning.

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            Mallaiyuran, Sundar Pichai is CEO google and there are many Pichais. Murali Pichai is software engineer Cisco System and prominent Pichai and these people are not from beggar families. Pichai refers to boy according to Hindu. I have seen names as Pichai or Pitchai only and not as Pichchai. May be Pichchai is for alms. Nobody will add Pichchai to their name if it is alms.

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        he Malaysian Mamak are Malaysians of Tamil Muslim origin, whose forefathers mostly migrated from South India to the Malay Peninsula and various locations in Southeast Asia centuries ago. They are regarded as part of the Malaysian Indian community. Indian Muslims are believed to have first arrived at Samudera (now Aceh in Sumatra, Indonesia) in the early 10th century Archaeological findings in Bujang Valley, Kedah, Malaysia suggest a trade relationship with India as early as the 1st to 5th century C.E.An inscription dated 779 AD that refers to the trade relationship between the Tamil country and Malaya has been found in Ligor, Malay Peninsula. The word ‘Mamak’ is from the Tamil term for maternal uncle, or ‘maa-ma’. In Singapore and Malaysia, it is used by children as an honorific to respectfully address adults such as shopkeepers. The silent K in ‘Mamak’ likely came about as a hypercorrection; since terminal Ks are not pronounced in Malay, a Malay who heard the Tamil word may have assumed there was a silent K at the end.] Although the origins of the word are benign, it is sometimes used as a derogatory term for the Indian Muslim community in Malaysia. Roit Canai is typical Mamak( Tamil Muslim food)

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          RSSS donkey, Mamak does not refers to a race or ethnicity but food stalls, especially Indian Muslim. They may be from Tamil Nadu, Kerala and other parts of India but mostly from Kerala. Malaysia and Indonesia had Muslim merchants from Middle-east, Persia travelling there for the 1000 of years. That is why those countries became Islamic nation. People like you write here as if whole world had Dravidian origin. Worst buggers with inferior complex trying to glorify everything as that of Dravidian. Come on wake up.

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            Why don’t you go and take your Prozac instead of grunting here alternatively as Ralli Balli and Mohammed

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              RSSS it is you who need Prozac otherwise you are heart going burst one of these by getting filled with jealousy and hatred. Letting out in CT with your fabrications not enough.

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      Yo Siva Shankara, you are like fly fallen into a hot bowl of mutton paaya soup. You are a confused donkey braying not knowing what’s going on. Please watch/video (tamil) KANDY NAYAKKAR by Parisalan to know the dynamics of the secret Ruling Elite Families who are running the show after the bloody fake independence the Ceylon was granted in the 40’s. The British empire is still holding the ownership of the country still by employing these Govigama Ruling Elite Criminals. Its a must to be watched……

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        What is difference Real Ideas?

        Sinahlese are holding onto the culture they descended from the Ceylon Tamils. Sinhala caste system was the Tamil caste system, even in TN, until Northern Brahmanical system force into them. Even Ceylon Tamils took the minimal Brahmanical system. Though during Chola Invasion(medieval), it was introduced to Sinhalese and Tamils, Sinhalese quickly dropped it back soon

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      “fake Arab Muslims, who are ethnic Tamil immigrants from South India” – Ha..ha.. this poor crazy man started his baila again…

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        You are fake Arabs and largely descended from low caste Indian Tamil Hindu converts. Do not like the truth to be told , so screeching and abusing . This is the truth even the Arabs know this. The partial European ancestry of the island Burgher population, was plainly visible in the vast majority of them, however than a small microscopic minority, we can hardly see any trace of Arab, North Indian or other western Asian ancestry in the island’s Muslims. Yet these shameless wankers keep on insisting on an Arab/Moor ancestry and will aggressively attack and abuse anyone who dares to state the obvious truth that they are not but descended from largely low caste Dravidian Tamil Hindus. In order to defend this mythical Aryan and Arab origin , and deny their predominant Dravidian Tamil origin, the island’s Sinhalese and Muslims are prepared even to commit genocide and war crimes on the Island’s Tamil population

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          Real Siva Sankaran Sharma,

          “The partial European ancestry of the island Burgher population, was plainly visible in the vast majority of them, however than a small microscopic minority, we can hardly see any trace of Arab, North Indian or other western Asian ancestry in the island’s Muslims. Yet these shameless wankers keep on insisting on an Arab/Moor ancestry and will aggressively attack and abuse anyone who dares to state the obvious truth that they are not but descended from largely low caste Dravidian Tamil Hindus.”

          It is data and observation, in this case genetic data, that can conclusively tell the truth.

          Whatever it is the Sinhala, Tamils, and Muslims as well as the others, except Native Veddah Aethho, are Paras in the land of Native Veddah Arthho. The question of whether the Para-Muslims are Para-Tamils or Para-Arabs, and their gene admixture, can only be determined by genetic studies.

          Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people:

          https://www.nature.com/articles/jhg2013112

          We have a case here where the Para-Sinhala are clearly, along with the other Para, Paras in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho. However, they deny that, and they call the Para-Tamils, Para-Demalo, foreign -Tamils.

          Did the Catholic Church finally accept that the Earth goes around the Sun? Still 25% of the Americans, and 33% of the Europeans believe that the Sun goes around the Earth.

          https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/02/14/277058739/1-in-4-americans-think-the-sun-goes-around-the-earth-survey-says

          1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Survey Says

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          RSSS the donkey. There is no Dravidian race and it refers to family languages spoken in South India and even in Sri Lanka and Pakistan. This word was coined by a British, not even by you tree climbers. In Tamil dictionary there is no such word. There is no race called caste. Why are you so angry? Is it for we are not taking you tree climbing generation into our folds. You belong to a special caste among many caste who engaged in prostitution in India. As for the records and as you always says low caste prostitutes were supplied to Arab sailors so you belongs to that special caste Brahamo. You said Vannimalai too was pimp, didn’t you?

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    Muslims do have a problem. They are more unloved now than ever before. But, that is not to say that there can be violence against them as a community. Why are they unloved? The Tamils think, rightly or wrongly, that they did not stand by them but played the role of spies and quislings. The Sinhalese don’t like them for a variety of reasons. They are the new targets of Sinhala hegemony which cannot exist without an other to be set against. The Tamils cannot be the target any more. So, it is the turn of the Muslims. It cannot be expected to stop in a hurry. There will be more Aluthgamas etc. simply because the cohesion of the Sinhala hegemony cannot be kept otherwise. The Muslims play into the hands of these hegemonists through their own behaviour.

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    MLU.
    This medical doctor is delusional and a racist.
    In his “dote age” probably he has an ulterior motive.
    Time will tell.

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    Stalin, Mao, Kim Family, Pol Pot, etc, None of these pigs went to Madrasas. Heck common thing with these groups would be that they rejected religion in gerenral. But the Islamophobia among Sinhala-Buddhists is not something you can take lightly. This can blow-up again. I am not sure education can help but it is always worth a try. I think the more wealthy Muslims should put TV ads to refute some of the claims. One thing that is confusing to many non-Muslims worldwide is difference or the connections between the Quran, Sunnah, Hadith, Sharia, etc.

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    “buddhists have killed. but, they have not killed in the name of the buddhism”

    Yep the highest mass killing in the history of humanity (that i know of..)

    World War 2 – by BUDDHIST JAPAN..

    So the killing of the buddhists are acceptable because that was no done in the name of buddhism?
    good to know that.

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      Alan you are an ignorant fool. In the Thirties the Samurai and military classes of Japan became very powerful. They did not like Buddhism (not even Mahayana or Zen) which they said were Indian imports. They praised Shinto the native Japanese religion and Emperor worship. It was against this background that Japanese militarism and all its associated massacres and cruelty arose. Nothing to do with Buddhists or Buddhism. Learn your history before writing.

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    It is absolutely critical that, when moderate Sinhala Buddhist voices express their views regarding the deterioration in Buddhist – Muslim relations, attention be focussed on the positive aspects of what is being expressed rather than attempting to draw attention to or counter the weaker aspects of the arguments presented. This is the only way one could ensure that the discussion can continue and hopefully result in some kind of consensual result.
    .
    Such occasions must not be used for the purpose of achieving one-upmanship or engaging in zero-sum games. Doing so will effectively prevent other moderate voices from joining the discussion which for all intents and purpose will then come to an end. Every attempt must be made by the Muslims to gain a deeper understanding of the reasons for the negative perceptions held by the Buddhists. For example, the complaint that the dress choices of Muslim females have shifted from the modest Shalwar Kameez to the ultra-conservative Burqa cannot be negated by simply pointing out that the dress choice of Sinhala females too has shifted from the traditional Hetta & Redde to modern Jeans and Skirts – and nobody is complaining. The former has emotional connotations such as apprehension and fear, while the latter is of a purely aesthetic nature.
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    Brother Usuf, I am yet another Muslim who is firmly of the opinion that the use of external public address systems in Mosques must be terminated immediately. But rather than countering Dr.SGdS’s ‘complaint’ in this regard by drawing attention to the use of loudspeakers in Buddhist temples, would it not have been more productive to invite the good Doctor and other like-minded Buddhists to engage with similar like-minded Muslims like us to devise means and ways we could collectively reduce ‘noise pollution’ from all religious institutes ?

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      Bisthan Batcha, are you a Muslim?

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    Arguing back and forth won’t solve problems, as long as politicians keep leveraging ethnicity and religion to win and influence votes.

    Meantime, it would help if respected multi-ethnic groups could join hands and embark on rational awareness programmes, to educate our people about mutual respect and tolerance as taught by the major religions.

    After all, except for a few politically motivated incidents in the past, all communities have generally lived in peace and harmony in Sri Lanka for centuries.

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    Mr. Mass L. Usuf,

    Even Pakistanis now agree that Sia Ul Haq’s Madrassa based education system has radicalized the Pakistani youths. Besides, it is well known fact that Saudi or Qatari funded Madrassa schools are promoting hatred and violence in the name of Islam. Do you expect us to sit back and watch the drama unfolds as it is?

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      S.
      What can you do, except to sit back and watch the drama unfold.!

      You don’t have a clue as to the cause of violence in the world today. .Probably you are a fan of Donald Trump. Enjoy fake news!!

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      Shenal

      Why you always write, “Do you expect us to sit back and watch the drama unfolds as it is?” So tell us what you are going to do, we can take some precautions now. Saudi and Qatari sending funds for religious and education purpose. You have enough rich Buddhist countries so why don’t you get help for religious educational purposes from them if ever they do that. I don’t think they will do that because 70% of them are atheist. In China 90% atheist. If they can get into some business venture they will do that to make money. Look at just Saudi Arabia, billions they had given as free donations and some without interest. Look at the multi-million dollar hospital they made for you free. See the billions coming from them through employment. What a ungrateful dirty bitch you are.

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        Ralli Ameen,

        //So tell us what you are going to do//

        We are compelled to take actions to curb Islamic expansionism. It should not necessarily be overt action always.

        //You have enough rich Buddhist countries so why don’t you get help for religious educational purposes from them if ever they do that.//

        Buddhism does not need richer folks to propagate itself.

        //I don’t think they will do that because 70% of them are atheist. In China 90% atheist.//

        It is better that these countries became atheist. We should also follow suit.

        //Look at just Saudi Arabia, billions they had given as free donations and some without interest.//

        That is Saudi Arabia’s failing. Spending billions of money on people that has got nothing to do with their country just to appease an imaginary god. Just look at the plight of Saudi now. Their oil revenue has gone down, unemployment has increased etc., They have become in debt by trying to teach Islam to other folks.

        //Look at the multi-million dollar hospital they made for you free. See the billions coming from them through employment. What a ungrateful dirty bitch you are.//

        So? Do we have to accept Islam because of that? People who have genuinely help some one do not go around announcing what they have done. We don’t need people like that.

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          Shenal,

          Great reply. Only Muslim scoundrel will give to charity and go on saying “Look what we gave” “Look how much it is”. For all I care, I’d tell them take their donation back and stick it up their rear-end.

          Such a primitive religion I’ll tell you. No wonder in China they have banned baby names such as Mohommad, Ahamed and Hussein.

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          “So tell us what we are going to do” – Here is the proposal from Sinhalese :
          1. To curb Muslim expansion into Sri Lanka economy – Apply ethnic ratios as what was done in education and employment. The total number of retail shops in the country should be in proportion to the ethnic balance. Muslims cannot own more than 8% of the total retail shops. Apply Bhumiputra policy like in Malaysia. No Muslim can start a business without a Sinhala partner authorised by a board. Regular income tax raid into Muslim businesses and homes. Every Muslim must account for the accumulated wealth. All donations from Muslim countries must go into a common fund to be distributed proportionally to all communities.
          2. To curb Muslim expansionism into Sri Lanka politics – Ban Muslims from having more than one wife. No access to state education, health of social service if any family has more than two children. Family planning to be enforced, it not natural method voluntarily, artificial methods by law. Ban all Arabic dress which are not in keeping with culture and customs of Sri Lanka. Close all Madarassas which are spreading hatred. One mosque to be permitted only if there are 2000 Muslims in the area. If any Mosque that has been constructed in any area where there are less Muslims, they will be demolished. In Islam you can pray anywhere even by the road side and Mosques are not necessary. There will be no Muslim majority areas and Muslims will be dispersed to live among other communities.

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          Shenal

          How can you take action to curb Islamic expansionism. It is not by war but natural like thousands and thousand converting daily all over the world. May in Sri Lanka too people are getting converted. You people always says Muslims kill those who convert. Are you all going to kill the Buddhist who converts. I don’t think so. You all are interested only in looting and destroying Muslim’s property because of jealously.
          If Buddhism does not need richer folk to propagate itself and if you are so sure Buddhism will increase by its own propagation then why are worried about Muslims getting fund, it is only for themselves.
          That is a good idea follow atheist. Then you will drop your fanaticism.
          So you say Saudi Arabia should not spend billions on countries that has nothing to with it. Then tell your government to return all the monies and not take anymore. Then you will be doing them a favour since their revenue is going down.
          Nobody asking you to accept Islam but I am pointing at your ungrateful feelings.

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    Bisthan B,

    Are you saying that if someone is uttering nonsense, others have to go along with that, what kind of nonsense is that, to resolve any conflict, the first thing to do is to establish the facts as it is, without sugar coating it. secondly we must understand that we are all equal citizens in this land.

    The main problem is that the Sinhalese Buddhist don’t want to accept that they are alien to this land as everyone else, even when their own distorted chronicle Mahawansa clearly states it, also, now the modern DNA test clearly proves that the origin of Sinhalese are from Bengal and Orissa. if you google the below, there is enough evidence to prove this.

    Yes, the Sinhalese have their origins in Bengal, Odisha | The Indian …
    indianexpress.com ›

    Fight lies and falsehood with truth, and the lies will disappear, this is the only way to come out of this.

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      DNA tests have proven again and again that the Sinhalese are largely of Indian Tamil descent and the Bengali input is around 25% , Sri Lankan Tamils in fact have a marginally higher Bengali DNA input 28-29% . The Indian Express despite its title acknowledges that the Sinhalese are largely of Tamil ancestry with significant Bengali input. However they failed to mention that the Sri Lankan Tamils have a marginally higher Bengali DNA input than the Sinhalese. Proving it was the arrival of Buddhism and not migration from North East India that triggered the formation of the Sinhalese language and people, as the population who converted to Buddhism gradually started to corrupt their native Tamil dialect Elu with the Pali , Sanskrit of Buddhism and this gradually evolved as Sinhalese. The population that did not convert or converted and reconverted back to Saivaism retained their ancient Tamil identity.

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        Real Siva Sankaran Sharma,

        If Sinhalese didn’t come from any where else they have surely originated in this island. You have also accepted that Sinhalese language was formed and evolved in this island itself. Has Tamil language originated and evolved in this island?

        Secondly, you claim that some Sri Lankan Tamils were reconverted back to Hinduism. This must be stated so that you can incorporate the Buddhism archaeological sites found in North and East. The problem is why didn’t these Buddhist become Sinhalese instead of reconverting back to Hinduism. As a matter of fact they were not living no more than few kilo meters from the Sinhala population.

        The most intriguing issues is why didn’t Mahavansa never mentioned about these indomitable Tamils.

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          Your arguments are stupid . No one ever stated Sinhalese language did not evolved in the island. but it evolved from the native Tamil dialect spoken in the island Elu. Sinhalese is largely a mixture of three languages Tamil( Elu) ,Sanskrit and Pali/Prakrit. Out of these three only Tamil belongs to the island and to the region the rest belong to the plains of north India and in the case of Sanskrit even further north, and arrived largely with Buddhism. Tamil or its various forms at one time was widely spoken in the Indian subcontinent and this includes the island. The native language of the island Elu is a simple semi Tamil Dravidian language. Around 35-40% of Sinhalese vocabulary is of Tamil origin. Sinhalese grammar lexicon syntax and alphabet is purely derived from Tamil. Take the Tamil element out of Sinhalese and what is left will not be Sinhalese but Pali and Sanskrit. The island had two major tribes Naga and Yakka. Both Dravidian and Elu/Tamil speaking. Naga were the elite and Yakka the peasants boorish. This is why even now Sinhalese use the term Yakko for a boorish person. However they are basically one and the same people. In the areas the Naga predominated they hardly converted to Buddhism and Sri Lankan Tamils are largely of Naga descent. In areas where the Yakka predominated they converted to Buddhism and were more open to Prakritisation of their language and culture. The elite Naga did not. This is the reason the original Sinhalese and Sri Lankan Tamils share 55% DNA as they were one and the same people. Most of the so called present day Sinhalese are assimilated Indian Tamil immigrants. This the reason Sinhalese share a 70% DNA with Indian Tamils but Sri Lankan Tamils only 17% . Many of the ancient Tamils embraced Buddhism in India and in the island and it was the Tamils who largely spread Buddhism to rest of Asia. Lots of the Buddhist ruins in the north and east are Tamil and many of them belong to the Mahayana sect. Sinhalese only belonged to the Theravada sect. Tamil Buddhists belonged to both. Learn your history properly

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            Real Siva Sankaran Sharma,

            You have clearly stated that Sinhalese language has evolved in Sri Lanka. Here take a look. “Buddhism gradually started to corrupt their native Tamil dialect Elu with the Pali , Sanskrit of Buddhism and this gradually evolved as Sinhalese.” How can you say that Sinhala did not evolve in the island? You are saying that it evolve from the Elu language. Where did it evolve then? In the moon?

            How do you differentiate between Yakka and Naga people? How do justify where they live? Most of all how do you come to the conclusion that Tamils come from Nagas? Is there any DNA imprint at least?

            If Sri Lankan Tamils have 17% similarity with Indian Tamils why do they have 99% similar culture, religion and language? Isn’t it bit odd?

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          Shenali, according to geological evidence Sri Lanka and Tamil Nadu were a single land mass which were separated by sea upheaval over 10,000 years ago. Secondly there are several urn burial sites with potsherds found in Sri Lanka which are similar to those found in Tamil Nadu. The latest one in Ibbankattuwa in Kurunegala resembles those found in Arikkamedu in Tamil Nadu. All these scientific evidence prove that it is the same people who lived in both sides of the divide. There is no question that Sinhala language, culture and customs evolved in Sri Lanka, similar to how Malayalam language, culture and customs evolved in South India. Your statement that Tamil is not indigenous to Sri Lanka is blatant distortion of truth. Tamil stone inscriptions found in Sri Lanka are over 2000 years while Sinhala stone inscription including the latest one in Anuradhapura are less than 1400 years old. While Malayalees are accepting their origin from Tamil language with inputs from Sanskrit etc., bigots like you are denying the Sinhala origin from Tamil language with inputs from Sanskrit, Maghadi etc. The fact that Vijaya and his gang were able to communicate with brides from Tamil Nadu proves that it was in Tamil, and the fact that Vijaya and his gang were able to communicate with Kuveni and her people proves the same. You cannot deny facts in this modern world with advanced technology. Your statement that Mahavamsa never mentions about Tamils is another lie, as Mahawamsa clearly says killing of a Tamil is not a sin and killing of a Tamil who had converted to Buddhism is only half a sin. Wait for the findings of the civilisation discovered in Settikulam in Vavunia and around Giant’s tank in Mannar, which is certainly not Sinhala but probably Dravidian. Be ashamed of yourself by your behaviour.

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            Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam,

            Does it even matter whether Sri Lanka or India were joined back more than 10,000 years ago? Does the urn burials elusive only to Tamils? Besides, does Tamil were even evolved 10,000 years ago?

            Finally, you have accepted that Sinhalese evolved in Sri Lanka. Doesn’t it provide Sinhalese with the authority for this island? Did Tamil evolved in Sri Lanka in the similar pattern?

            Mahavansa was written more than 500 years later of the Vijaya incident. Do you believe that after 500 years the truth was not distorted? How can we be sure that Vijaya did indeed spoke with Pandya princes let alone Kuweni in a familiar language?

            The Settikulam findings were not of Tamil civilization. I double challenge you to provide evidence that it is what you state.

            I am not ashamed of my behavior or my countries history. Besides, I actually pity you people who still try to create a bogus history thinking one day you will get a separate country based on that concocted history. However, it should be expected from people like you who believes in flying gods and elephants headed humans.

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            Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam

            1. “Your statement that Mahavamsa never mentions about Tamils is another lie, as Mahawamsa clearly says killing of a Tamil is not a sin and killing of a Tamil who had converted to Buddhism is only half a sin.”

            Killing a Native Veddah Aethho, how much sin according to Mahawamsa?

            2. “Shenali, according to geological evidence Sri Lanka and Tamil Nadu were a single land mass which were separated by sea upheaval over 10,000 years ago. “
            “All these scientific evidence prove that it is the same people who lived in both sides of the divide. “

            Modern genetics proves that Para-Sinhala and Para-Tamils are of the same Para-Stock from India, and the Native Veddah Aethho are different. and wa;ked to claim the Land of Native Veddah Aethho.

            Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations

            https://www.nature.com/articles/jhg2013112

            Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.

            Mama Seka Kalemi, Mama Dena Gathimi
            I suspected, I came to know.

            Para-Sinhala are Para-Tamils, and Para-Tamils, Para-Sinhala in the Land of Native Vrddah Aethho.

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              Killing Tamils: Amarasiri, you say, “Mahawamsa clearly says killing of a Tamil is not a sin … blah… blah.” Why not give them the whole truth? What Mahavamsa says is, after killing Tamils*, if you give alms to Sangha then you go to a Divya Loka (heavenly abode) of your choice.

              * However this does not apply to all Tamils – it means only the Tamils who desecrated Buddhism and/or Buddhist places of worship. An example of this is the Sri Maha Bodhi. Those days the Tamils in Anuradhapura used to defecate in the sacred area belonging to the Bodhi. Of course, the reason behind this may not have been purposefully insulting the Bodhiya. It could have been the usual Tamil way of defecating in the most convenient place.

              Even now in Tamil Nadu, Tamils (including women) defecate in the open in full view of anyone passing by. Such things are due to abject poverty existing in Tamil Nadu. The poverty was so bad that the Tamils used to swim to Sri Lanka across the Palk Strait braving huge risks.

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                Why a man of Edwin s Age to behave this low level- even APEs would not fall that low ?
                If this man would open his cesspit, what comes out is thrash- stinky.. . Really disgusting.
                I wonder why the man in his 70ties to repeat his stupidity this way ? Alone his toilet

                Either the bugger should have been abused in his childhood by many. Or his mixed genetics should have been upside down from the begining on right ?

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                  appubaba, how do you know in so much detail what comes out of my cesspit? Aha! I know you are Samson using a new name. Samson-Appubaba, you are the famous German toiletarians. You know about toilets. That is something nobody can deny.

                  I have noticed that Samson is using a whole set of new names. You cannot change your stink by changing the name. As I have advised you a dozen times – change the stinking job. Surely, you cannot remain a Sakkiliya forever!

                  Of course, I squat when I defecate. What is your problem? The stuff is falling off your mouth? You say, “Or his mixed genetics should have been upside down from the beginning on right?” I think you should try some mutations. You are such a lowly creature that any mutation can only be an improvement and improve your capacity to come out with shit.

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                ” It could have been the usual Tamil way of defecating in the most convenient place.
                Even now in Tamil Nadu, Tamils (including women) defecate in the open in full view of anyone passing by.”

                Front Admirable,
                A sooner or later future candidate of where Mahajan wearing Amude and doing the same thing would be Lankawe, which was just 70 years ago, when Whiteman rules using Tamils, was labelled as the richest in the hemisphere. When the Mahajan doing that, it is Chinese police women going to whip with Thirukkaiwaal and chase the Mahajans out of the public road.
                TN people are doing that because The Muslim rulers and European rulers put TN to that state. That is poverty. That is not strange. In fact it is common in countries recognized as stricken by poverty. When the wealth increase, when toilets are built by TN and Delhi government it will be gone.
                Your filthy behavior of defecating all over CT is induced by the easy Oil Money shared by Muslim Countries for an incapacitated person like you, who buy the Rapist Army’s another easy money earning Kerala Ganja. But the SWRD and Old King like Buddhist hero taught political culture for filthy like you, who don’t know what a Public media, is only to prop up and flourish when the wealth and decency increase with in the community, because average decent people when they see the pesky slime like you, leave you alone and run away.
                Wish you get well from your nightmare, Sinhala Buddhist satanic life.

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                  Malleurine, you are blabbering. Is something wrong? This is not the usual Malleurine that we have seen before.

                  Look man, I am not looking down on Tamil women because of their nauseating toilet habits. The fault lies with their menfolk. My problem is that instead of attending to the problem of poverty and remaining in their country of birth, they swim over and make it our problem – and now the problem of EU, Cananda and US too.

                  Finally, if the words ‘shit’ and ‘excreta’ affects you so badly, I will not use them. But there are T &C. You should not insult Mahavamsa or Buddhism and say utter untruths like- the Sinhalese people have Tamil roots, Sinhalese is based on Tamil and so on.

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                Edwin,
                ” It could have been the usual Tamil way of defecating in the most convenient place.”
                I hear that Sinhala women do not do this because there are many elderly “engineers” watching them through binoculars, with a view to raping them. It has happened to many 5-year olds recently.

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                  No, Meenachchi, if it is happening, it may be because, like in a movie trailer, we get only a glimpse of the action from the Tamil ladies. Why? because, their men do it while facing the women and obstruct our view.

                  Now that Jayalalitha is gone, things may improve.

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                Killing Tamils-2: To continue the story (as related by my Gaban Atha) Nandi Mitra (the Chief Yodha, of the Dasa Maha Yodhas), whom some Tamils claim to be a Tamil, but actually, a pious Sinhalese Buddhist, used to come and offer homage to the sacred tree daily. Every time (sorry, Yevery time), he found disgusting heaps of fecal matter within the sacred area, left by the Tamils.

                Finally, unable to tolerate it anymore, he used to remain in hiding at dawn (the time Tamils came enmasse to relieve themselves) catch them one by one and kill them. If anyone is shocked by the fact that this killing was done on sacred grounds, wait until I tell you hear how it was done – the so called modus operandi. Grabbing the victim, and using one foot to keep the victim’s foot pressed to the ground, he pulled the other foot splitting the body clean in to two equal halves. It must have been an instantaneous and painless death, but the final product couldn.t have been pleasant.

                Then the Rukshas Devas living in the Bodhiya (Tree Gods) swung in to action. Using miraculous powers, they made the Tamil remains disappear. So, by the time the sun came up, the Holy premises were spic and span and free of even a whiff of Thala Thel smell.

                Elara’s authorities were flummoxed. Just like in the Mahinda white van days (2000 years later), people were disappearing without leaving any trace and the culprit was never apprehended.

                To cut a long story short, Nandi Mthra offered Dana to Sangha, including Arahats, almost daily. As a result of that and for protecting Buddhism, he went to Thawthisa Divya Loka after his death.

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                This edwin Rodrigo sounds very stupid. Being in a foreign country, he should know better, which country in South Asia is considered by others as poverty stricken poor begging nation. If he looks at the foreign exchange rates, Sri Lanka is the worst among the South Asian countries. If he compare the wages of house maids, Sri Lankan women are the cheapest in the world. People around the world look at a nation by their GDP, exchange rates, wages paid to them in the international market, how much they borrow, etc. If a Sri Lankan tell an Indian that they are a poor country, he/she will laugh from both sides. edwin Rodrigo, just go out and Speak to them and see what they think about you, they consider you as a poverty stricken poor begging pariah nation.

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                  Poop Expert: Hello Sam – Alias Jamis Panda, you are showing how poopy you are by your last comment. It is like saying that the German Gross Domestic Product is increasing as seen by the number of hours of overtime that Jamis Banda is doing.

                  Our Poop expert says: People around the world look at a nation by their GDP, exchange rates, wages paid to them in the international market, how much they borrow, etc. This is like saying “People around the world look at a nation by their GPP (Gross Poop Production), Wages paid to the Toilet Cleaners etc.

                  This is the kind of poop that comes out when an expert in poop tries to be an expert in economics. If Poop was given out as part of the Nobel Prize – no sorry, if there were a Nobel Prize for Poop, then Sam the Man, a Tamil refugee from Sri Lanka would certainly would have had a chance of winning that for his noble and stinking work on poop.

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          What about the blood of the lion in the Sinhalese. Mahavamsa traces the origin of the Sinhalese to a lion. DNA test may be incorrect as it should mention the animal blood in us

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            PP.
            You mean the Donkey DNA?

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        Real siva Sankaran Sharma: Is sharma a Tamil name How about Siva or Sankharan ?
        YOu Tamils lived even before the earth was born. Still you do not have a country. What are you Tamilnadu, A dalit ? So, the western hypothesis of Every one began from Africa is wrong. Why this old Tamils do not have their own culture in Sinhale. Why do we Sinhala people have very advanced civilization in Sinhale. Are Tamils primitive. YOu don’t have a culture because, the Library was burned down. Whose play is Bharatha NAtyam. What else you have comepletely Indian. South Indian food, IS Arumuga NAvalar born in Sinhale ?

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    DNA & Toyota: RSSS, if as you say there are any Tamil genes in the Sinhalese genome, then it has to be due to a big mistake, and as Akio Toyoda CEO of Toyota says, such mistakes made once will not be repeated”.

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      Edwin the dimwit – what do you know about human genetics ?

      Almost us the homosapiens have lot more similarties with apes (not even 2 percent of genomes of both are different from each others).

      So, knowing those facts, to see such differences in taminl genetics or others genetics should be kept away if i may say so.
      We are all the same.
      Even swine and chimpansee genetics have lot to do with that of a home sapiens.
      So, that is the reason why medicine was dependent on swine until biotechnology introduced new methods of manufactureing insulin for example.

      But for sure, when we get on with some human beings, I feel they should have got mixed theirs with those animals closer than seen in any average. There from their behaviour, we can notice it easily.
      Those men in JO and sometimes you yourself too, behave like apes or swine than any other animals.

      God bless Srilanka

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        Dear Hatharabirikatharina, In genetics, 2% is a huge difference. Leave alone 2%, even a single gene can make a huge difference. In experiments carried out on fruit flies, just changing one gene made the sex organ grow on the head of the fly. Imagine, Hatharabirikatharina, if the same thing happened to you (if it has not already happened), you will not be Hatharabirikatharina but Hatharabirikatharina -Debidi Blind – ketha karanni. You know what I mean? Surely you cannot carry your sex organ exposed to everybody like that, can you? Perhaps, you can, because you Tamil Nadu ladies are somewhat used to that.

        You also say, Those men in JO and sometimes you yourself too, behave like apes or swine than any other animals.

        This opens up a new theory. Perhaps your Divine Leader, had a Sinhala gene, that made him look more like a pig than a Tamil God. Or it may be that he had some pig organ transplanted in him. Whatever it may be, may the Pig of Gods (or is it God of Pigs?) Bless you.

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          Those who just got into genetics stuff sound to be utterling the kind of bla blas. Not knowing the impact of it.
          As one other commenter already added, you should be a born low class bugger to have come with the kind of thoughts.
          Anyone that would disagree with your ill thoughts to be branded as Tamils.
          I am no against tamils, nor would I against mulims even if they would move like dragons covering entire body as is the case in Afaganistan or your part of the low level arab coutnries where human torture has been on their top of agenda.

          I agree with Hanthra biri, since she should know much better than what she hs been commneting on than you do. You just hang on with any race or religion to attack own srilankens. My diseased mother asked me to be a good and kind person, not caring any thing else.
          So am I since I have been in Europe.
          We get on with many nationalites thanks god, none of them are close your profile.
          Please grow up Edwin not trying to become an another MERVIN the vermin. Just go to the mirror and see it finally.

          You dont have much time left – as you ve been in your 70ties. Just try to pray all the living beings. Hatred of your nature or Rajapakshe nature cant bring us peace and harmony.
          When I read yours, I think, God has done a big mistake giving a birth to the kind of people.
          Today from Luzern Switzerland.

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            Mother’s advice: Desperate Samson, you say, “My diseased mother asked me to be a good and kind person, not caring any thing else”. Don’t you think you are shaming your mother who gave you such good advice by using the word ‘bugger’ on others in a public forum like this? And you call Rajapaksa who cleaned up our land by destroying terrorism a Ballige Putha. I wonder who the Bitch is, Rajapakse’s mother or your mother. From the way you write, I would place my bets on the second possibilityMother’s advice: Desperate Samson, you say, “My diseased mother asked me to be a good and kind person, not caring anything else”. Don’t you think you are shaming your mother who gave you such good advice by using the word ‘bugger’ on others in a public forum like this? And you call Rajapaksa, who cleaned up our land by destroying terrorism, a Ballige Putha. I wonder who the Bitch is, Rajapakse’s mother or your mother. From the way you write, I would place my bets on the second possibility.
            As for your wish for my death. You are not the first nor the last make that wish. If you cannot meet my arguments what else can a cowardly Sakkiliya like you do, except to wish for my death?
            But that too is not going to come about. I assure you that I will be coming for your funeral, even if it is held in the 3rd Reich, even if it is in a stinking toilet in Berlin, I am coming to pay my last respects to you and give you the Pansukula.
            We already know who you are. Next time you visit Sri Lanka, the white van will be waiting outside the Arrival to take you to the real ‘Departure’ – Deaparture from this life. Ha! Ha!. Not only are you going to take your last ride in it, but you will pay the fare and the tip for the driver too..

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              Today from Luzern Switzerland. Ha! Ha! and I am shitting (sorry – sitting) on the top of the Matterhorn. BP Samson, what are you doing in Switzerland? Who is doing your work in Berlin? Whoever it is, he or she cannot do it with the same efficiency as you. Soon the Berlin sewers may overflow.

              I have toured Switzerland twice, the last time being in 1990. Both times I saw Tamils hanging around in train stations asking for donations. When I approached one in Zurich he ran away like a scared rabbit. Things may be worse now with guys like you joining them.

              Anyway, have a good time and save some of those coins for GTF.

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    Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing… but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)” (Translation is from the Noble Quran). This is a classic example from Quran to prove ‘how violent a religion islam is.

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      Ujitha,
      Perhaps you need to read the Mahavamsa:
      “And thereon the king said again to them: `How shall there be any comfort for me, O venerable sirs, since by me was caused the slaughter of a great host numbering millions?’
      `From this deed arises no hindrance in thy way to heaven. Only one and a half human beings have been slain here by thee, O lord of men. The one had come unto the (three) refuges, the other had taken on himself the five precepts.[30] Unbelievers and men of evil life were the rest, not more to be esteemed than beasts.”
      (http://mahavamsa.org/mahavamsa/original-version/25-victory-duttha-gamani/)

      It is better not to throw stones from glass houses. EVERY religion has things to hide.

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        raman,
        Mahawansha is not a religion.

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          Johnny,
          “Mahawansha is not a religion.”
          The Quran is not a religion either.
          Can’t you do better than that when you’re stumped? Go read the preamble to the Mahavamsa. I have.

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            raman,

            What? Islam is based on Quran does it not?

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              Yes, and Sinhala Buddhism (not real Buddhism) is based on the Mahavamsa, is it not?

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        Mr. raman, I thought that the Holy Quran is infallible and applies to all times. We Sinhala Buddhist do not want to hide things. We have committed atrocities in the past and I am sure it will happen in the future too. Some of the things mentioned in the Mahavmsa are outrageous.

        The difference is that Mahavamsa is just a chronicle written by humans (monks). Just like today’s media it has a lot of exaggerations. If any Muslim says Mahavamsa is on par for us as the holy Quran is for them then that is serious apostasy and you will be in mortal danger from your comrades.

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      Ujitha Dissanayake

      “Religion is the opium of the masses” Karl Marx.

      Historically, Religion got ahead of Philosophy and Science to explain nature.

      Para-Wahhabi-Salafi Cultists, Para-Sinhala ‘Buddhist’ Cultists and others are not much different. Do the Para-Sinhala have lion genes? Not found yet!.

      Mahawamsa is an Insult to the Buddha.

      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mahavamsa-an-insult-to-the-buddha/

      In this “wonderland” called Sri Lanka, and in this day and age, one still comes across ‘academically’ educated, and supposedly intelligent ‘Buddhists’, but sadly lacking in wisdom, who reverently believe, that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb, and walked seven steps, while lotuses blossomed, under his feet!

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        I completely agree with Amarasiri on his Para concept. The great thing is that if we call him Para Amare, he does not mind. For Para Amare, the only people who are not Para are the Vedda Aeththo.

        In Vedda language I will say, Oya Para pojja neththe apilata witharai. Kavuru Kavuruth eka olu pojjata gaththoth hindai. Nethi nan apilage hura kiyana vidihata thopilave manda karanna apata sidda venava.

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          Rantings of Mathugama [Edited out]on our fellow commenters are at its heights.

          The low class men of that nature would never behave well. They cant see it since their eyes are clouded for ever.

          Good luck Edwin, with less than few more years to go with your term.

          Get well and face it the advice I can give you at this moment.

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      Ujitha Dissanayake

      Where did you learn to write this? Copied from an anti-Islamic web site or a Jew who is screwing from behind gave this writing. Okay I will give you what 2:191-193 says here.

      (191) And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

      (192) But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

      (193) And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers.

      The above Surah tells about enemies who come to destroy Muslims at the beginning so only way to save yourself from them before they kill or drive out you from your places. It also says if they desist then Allah is forgiving and there should be no hostility. It also says fight not near place of worship, this refers to enemies places of worship. Even before Islam this was what followed. When an enemy invade their place, they fought back until the enemy was killed. Now you donkey Ujitha tell me what did your government did when enemy LTTE tried to destroy you. Your monks did not go with trays of flowers and tell LTTE to follow Buddhas peace. But the forces destroyed them, that is you followed above Surahs.
      So, also know if you become the oppressor to the people, according Surah you too can be driven out..

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        Ralli Ameen,

        So you are threatening us now. One thing to remember Ralli Ameen is that your god is imaginary and will not come to your aid. You can initiate a war against us but it will be only you that will suffer from it. Even Saudi Arabia is not going to help you this time as they don’t have the capacity to do it. Declare war against us and ready to face your own desolation.

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          Shenal

          Now itself you getting jittery. Don’t worry we are not going to declare war against you. We protected you when you started running eyes closed just hearing the words LTTE is coming.

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      Ujith.. naa..YAKKA,
      you such an Ignorant and uneducated , uncivilized Racist Boothaya.. How dare you take your own words and portion of Qur’aan and posting here . .
      The world now certified how Budhism became as Barbariansim . Are you not Ashamed ?

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      Islam & Violence: Hold on my Muslim friends. I can answer that. I have asked this same question from Muslims ere, in the land of Haj, and here are the answers I got.

      1) It is not from the holy Quran but from the Hadith.
      2) It applies to people who try to convert Muslims away from the faith.
      3) If you continue not to believe, then we will go on trying, but we are not going to kill you if you desist. Of course, if you enter the faith and try to leave (apostasy) then that is punishable by death.
      4) And the usual beauty: “It has to be taken in context:.
      I am sorry for those who, like Mass A Usuf, are born in to Islam and remain trapped there for life.
      What Usuf says in the article and what Aesop says in his tales are the same. Just fairy stories.

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    Saudies and Qataries are welcomed in America, England and rest of the world. Those countries know how to do business with Saudi and Qatar for the benefit of both sides, but Sri Lankans, specially Sinhala Buddhists behave like idiots. I don’t know why they worry about what happens around the world. People! every country has capacity to deal with the alleged Islamization in their country. If any stupid , like the doctor, thinks that there are illegal activities by Muslims going on in Sri Lanka then resort to law and order force. This is what we Muslims have been telling. However, 999 year leaseholders of Buddhism, like Shenal want to take the law in their hands and make Sri Lanka another Myanmar? That’s why she asks
    “Do you expect us to sit back and watch the drama unfolds as it is?,…”

    When did “Dhaham Passala” start preaching fake Buddhism to Sinhalese.Did any body get transfer from Madrasa to Dhaham Passala?

    You will never learn from your stupidity of 1983. This is the first time I accept to realize that there may be truth in what Amarasiri’s position regarding IQ level of Doctor, Shenal, Jim, fake Sive and lot. Grow up people.

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      Ahmad Nadvi,

      Americans are using Saudis and other wealthy middle eastern princes. They keep them at a distance and siphoning the oil money back to America. The same is some what similar to the Europe as well how ever they tend to welcome refugees from Syria, Iraq and other improvised Muslim countries in the name of humanity.

      It is you people who went about the place saying Sri Lankan law and order situation is precarious. Then why now you ask as to expect the fairness from this deteriorated unit who have to taken oaths to uphold the law and order?

      Daham Pasala does not preach violence like your own Madrassas. Even you can come and visit any given Daham Pasala to see it for your self. Can we go into a Madrassa and listen to what the preachers say? I have seen a recent documentary where some TV station put a hidden camera in a Birmingham city Madrassa to see what they do inside. It is appalling what they have found out. The video is readily available in the internet so that any one could see it. Do you think that Sri Lankan Madrassas are much better than the British ones?

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      Ahmed NAdvi: Long ago, you people had ISlamic conquests. Now, you use the country’s laws to advance yourself. Muslims have become a threat to us. So, we have to ask you to behave if not leave. WE know how muslims live in the west. They are basically christians there.

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    75% of the Sinhalese words are from the Bengali language or rather the Bengali dialect of sanscrit, moreover not only the language, even the culture and Buddhism also came from Bengal, as the Bengals were Buddhist before the Muslims came to India, Vijaya and his bandits when they came in they brought the culture and everything else, of course later on others from the southern India also came in.

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      Most of the Sinhala words are from Tamil or proto-Tamil (Elu or Hela). Bengalis are a mixed ethnic group of Dravidians, Tibeto-Burmans and Austro-Asiatic people. Origin of the word Bangla is unknown but believed to be derived from Dravidian Banga tribe that settled there around 2000 BC. Later Indo-Aryans arrived adding to the language mix, and Magadhi is one of them. Probably Vijaya and his friends may have been Maghadi speakers and their words may have come into Sinhala. This is a possibility as Buddha’s sermons were in Maghadi. Sanskrit words have also been incorporated.

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        Vijaya did not come. Kalinga war refugee came. The reason why didn’t they go TN but came to Ceylon. Ceylon has been exporting rice to Bengal and once in a while traders used to settle in Ceylon. That is what triggered them to select Ceylon instead of TN. When they crossed the sea, they felt secured from the ravaging war.

        They were not really rowdies. Because they only men, they were categorized as undependable by locals. This not different from one time European Countries’ police with their broken English, Without inquiring, beaten up the Tamil refugee as ” Sri Lanka, Passport Lost, Refugees “. Still Tamil refugees are not recognized in Swiss, Australia like countries. This is one, ignorance and two, racism. This did not happen in Britain, though many were suspected there as LETTers. One time, those days, The Economist wrote, why there is so much difference in the match and science performance between the Somali refugees and Tamil Students, who are only next the Wealthy Hong Kong Chinese Immigrants, while Tamils are only as much as the Somali refugees in their homeland’s devastation.

        The Bengali refugees were men, very few women accompanied them. It is not 700, but many boats over a period. The 700 hundred men could not have made a DNA difference. Because out of the 700 more than three quarter might have died without getting a local woman. But, like in the case of Tamil refugees, valiant traders might have bought Kalinga Girls, eventually. They would have been for the 2nd 3rd generation and this should be mixed up with Mahavamsa fake story of 700 Pandya girls. If 700 Pandya girls have had come, then their parent travelled with them and the King might have seen all Bengal guys become 100% TN Tamil cultured.

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      Nonsense Bengali evolved from around 1000 -1200AD from Sanskrit and Maghadi Prakrit. Whereas Sinhalese had already evolved by the 800-900AD and 35=40% of the Sinhalese vocabulary is Tamil. Please do not post nonsense unconcerned citizen. Sinhalese evolved from the local indigenous Tamil dialect Elu. It has a very strong Dravidian foundation on which an IndoAryan super structure has been built. old Sinhala approaches far closer to Tamil than modern Sinhala in its pronunciation The Vedda dialect, their spoken language is identical with Elu which was the spoken language of ancient Sri Lanka, which is semi-Tamil; as to the grammatical structure it is essentially Dravidian and simple Elu( Tamil)+ Prakrit= Hela ( old Sinhalese. Into this more Pali and Sanskrit words modern Sinhalese. The culture dress and food habits , of the Sinhalese reflect Kerala and Southern Tamil Nadu . Basically Tamil and there is nothing Bengali. As the Sinhalese evolved from the Tamils with a minority Bengali input from the modern Bengali region,. Many in the ancient Vanga region were Buddhist but so were many Tamils and the rest of India and Buddhism did not originate from Bengal. It originated in the Bihar area and it was the Tamils and not the Bengali who spread Buddhism. There was no such ethnic group called Bengali at that time. Tamils were largely instrumental for the spread of Hinduism Buddhism and Indian culture in Asia. Especially SE Asia. Bengali hardly did nothing.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_amongst_Tamils

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      Retarded……………………………………………Pererass

      Brilliant.
      Keep up women smelling.

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    Maas L Usuf is beginning to lose tract of the target. He concentrates on the violence on ‘Us, the friendly and loyal Muslims”. His logic “Prabhakaran never attended a Madrassa” is puerile.
    Time has come for Maas to keep quiet. Else the gains of his first article may be lost.

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      What about his question if one can practice Medicine in Britain with Lankawe MBBS? If he is comparing that to a Middle Eastern country’s head chopping religious Sharia Law isn’t Usuf is too is educated in a racist Madrassa?

      The fool appears to be junior to know until Badiuddin Introduced Standardization, “Yes Ceylon Medical graduates were able to practice in Britain with their Ceylon MBBS”.

      The racist is blindly writing anything coming into his racist mind. He naively and successfully turned Dr. Silva’s question on Tamils. But when Tamils’ UNHRC activities come to an end Ranil, and New King will relaunch Gnanam on Muslims. That time the Muslim Leaders and writers aging will resought the shade of Sir Pon Ramanathan, to spread a new anti-Tamil campaign, without remembering it was Muslims leaders and writers brought the communal riots to Lankawe in 1915,but not Don Stephen or Larder Pirapaharan.

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    No point in arguing against beliefs. The Sinhalaya believes that he is the original inhabitant of the law like the Malay Muslims in Malaysia. The fact is that they all came from India, like the rest of us. The caste stories of their origin indicates that they came from India. The Karawes, just fishermen from India, claim that they called Karawes because they are from the Kauravars of the Mahabaratha. The Salagama, cinnamon peelers brought from India by the Dutch, claim that they came from Saligramam and are high caste Brahmins who had to be carried onto shore by Marakalas (Muslims) The Berawes came likewise. You examine every Sinhala caste, it has an origin myth in India. But, the collective myth is that they are the original inhabitants, leaving the poor Veddahs aside. So, is myth made into truth. No point battling with these morons who believe that a lion buggered their ancestor to begin their race. We simply live here and no one can shake us off.

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      mama Sinhalam,

      The immigrants are not Sinhalese. They became Sinhalese once they settled in the island. You are this dumb not to understand this simple fact. If Americans can claim their land why can’t Sinhalese claim Sri Lanka? What is this double standard. Besides many countries in the world have their origins somewhere else as humans were constantly in migration for better pastures. You are the moron here who does not understand this fact.

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        So. you admit the most Sinhalese are descended from immigrants from India and most of them from South India. Sinhalese claim the southern seven provinces as theirs but not the north, east of the north west coast as these were not their homelands. These lands were and still are the lands of the Tamils where they had continuously lived and ruled until European colonisation. population statistics also prove this. There were hardly any Sinhalese in these two province and if you look at all the map of Sri Lanka before 1948 , except a few border villages, every town city village river mountain/hill in the north and east , has a Tamil name. When the British demarcated the North and East Tamil provinces and home lands, these were the lands that the Sinhalese had no claim whatsoever. Any remote claim of the Sinhalese was favourably entertained by the British and these lands were not part of the north and east. Not only the British but even the Portuguese , the Dutch and Indians all recognise these lands as the lands of Tamils. Even all Sinhalese governments prior to the Rajapakse regime recognised this. The Sinhalese had no peep in these ancient Tamil lands until 1948, when the British handed the entire island together with the hapless Tamils, to the Sinhalese on a platter and yet they complain , that the British favoured the Tamils. The British never favoured the Tamils but only used them for their hard work and industriousness but always favoured the Sinhalese. If they favoured the Tamils , they would never have amalgamated their lands with the Sinhalese lands down south and then leave the Tamils in this mess. They also never developed the Tamil areas only the Sinhalese areas.

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          Real Siva Sankaran Sharma,

          Not most of the Sinhalese every one came to this island through India. That is a solid fact. And yes it can be argued that Sinhalese have most of South Indian DNA. The entire country is the home land of the Sinhalese. The arrival of recent migrants does not change that fact. Read father Quaros’s account of the Sri Lanka back in 16th century. It very clearly state who owned this island. Furthermore, British never demarcated North and East are Tamil areas. Don’t lie. It is something you people have concocted.

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            the British, after conceding all claims of the Sinhalese from the earlier Northern and Eastern Provinces determined the boundary the two provinces as Tamil Provinces after conceding all Sinhalese claims. The Sinhalese claims and the British accommodation were very much conditioned by the perception all Kandyan territories were Sinhalese which it was not, as well as there was a Sinhala Buddhist Aryan civilisation in Sri Lanka which was a product of realm of imagination but purported to be real. This imagination was the foundation of establishment of North Central province. Much of the territories that were ceded from the cardinal North East as well as the creation of North Western Provinces included substantial territories that were well recognised Tamil and Veddha territories that have stood there for many centuries.The name Tamil Province being used to indicate the two provinces of the North and East are apparent from the paragraph found in the Ceylon Manuel :-
            With the other Tamil Province (Northern Province), the Eastern Province shares the honour of being the richest timber producing portion of the Island.- Ceylon Manuel 1910: Page 313.
            The recognition that the territory of these t two provinces were Tamil is further evident from the paragraph of the Ceylon Manuel :
            The Sinhalese & the Tamil districts – Ceylon is also divided into the Sinhalese district and the Tamil district. The former comprises the Western, Southern, Central, North-Western and North Central Provinces, with Uva and Sabragamuwa and the latter the Northern and Eastern Provinces. In the former the Sinhalese race and language predominate, and in the latter the Tamil. – Ceylon Manual – 1908 – Page 34.
            The initial territorial boundaries of the Northern and Eastern provinces were determined by considering Jaffna and Trincomalee as their administrative capitals, taking into consideration the influence that these two centres of economic and political activity had over the respective areas.

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              Real Siva Sankaran Sharma,

              Do you think all the archaeologists including Mr. Codrington, H.C.P Bell etc., were duped or wrong to dismiss your Tamil claims? It was clear for them that there were not independent Tamil kingdom in North and East. Even for them it was apparent that the island contained two distinct communities, one was unique and the other was similar to the Malabar people. They were no fools.

              Anyone could see that Tamils populated North and East after the 17th century. Hence the recognition of North and East as Tamil areas by Ceylon Manual of the 20th century. How come Jaffna to a economic center when it is located far away corner of the country? The people of Kilinochchi, Mannar, Mulative or Vavuniya could use Sinhala areas instead of going to Jaffna. The same is true for Trincomalee.

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                Shenal the stupid,

                “Anyone could see that Tamils populated North and East after the 17th century”

                Bhuvanekabahu VI (Sapumal Kumaraya aka Chempaha Perumal) the adopted son of Parakrama Bahu VI captured the Jaffna Kingdom in 1450 (much before the Portuguese arrived). During his rule in Jaffna, he rebuilt the premier shrine of Hindu worship – the Nallur Kandaswamy Kovil (he did not build any Buddhist temple) for the people of Jaffna peninsula. The Tamils of Jaffna are still invoking his name and singing thevarams to him in the Nallur Kovil before the temple procession of Lord Murukan.

                As per your argument, if the Tamils populated North and East after the 17th century, then the people of Jaffna before the 17th century should have been the Sinhalese. If the people of Jaffna during the 13th Century AD were Sinhalese, then Sapumal Kumaraya should have built a Buddhist temple and NOT a Hindu temple in the heart of Jaffna. Why did he build the Hindu Nallur Kandaswamy Kovil in the 13th Century AD for the so called Sinhalese of Jaffna?

                In his book ‘Jaffna under the Portuguese’, Tikiri Abeyasinghe who was the Professor of Modern History at the University of Colombo till 1985 notes that in the period 1624-1626 (during Portuguese rule of Jaffna), the Franciscans converted 52,000 Jaffna Tamil Hindus into Catholics. Prof. Tikiri Abeysinghe is one of the very few who has done extensive research on Portuguese archives and Goa archives by living in those countries. Read “Jaffna under the Portuguese” by Prof Tikiri Abeyasinghe.

                There is enough of authentic evidence (I can list you many and quote from reputed Sinhala historians) to prove that the Sinhalese were originally Indian Tamils brought in by the Portuguese but what authentic evidence do you have to prove that the populated North and East after the 17th century?

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            Shenali

            “Not most of the Sinhalese every one came to this island through India.”

            Your ancestors came by Kallathonies from India. Whatever you call yours also came from India.

            It seems top hotels have menus almost all items originated from India.
            It does not matter whether one came early or later the fact remain they are all descendants of Kallathonies.

            “Furthermore, British never demarcated North and East are Tamil areas. “

            Did British demarcate rest of the area Sinhala?

            ” Read father Quaros’s account of the Sri Lanka back in 16th century.”

            My Elders do have access to most of the books. Could you give me the exact name, year of publication, and the page.

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              Native Vedda,

              So does it even matter my ancestors were Kallathonies?

              //It seems top hotels have menus almost all items originated from India.
              It does not matter whether one came early or later the fact remain they are all descendants of Kallathonies.//

              So what is with the Kallathonies? You are afraid of them? or are you simply being racist?

              //Did British demarcate rest of the area Sinhala?//

              Yes. They even called the island “Sinhale”

              //My Elders do have access to most of the books. Could you give me the exact name, year of publication, and the page.//

              Read Ceylon: The Portuguese Era by Paul E. Peiris.

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        So Shenal, why cannot the Tamils and Muslims claim the lands on which they live as belonging to them? Being super intelligent, you should be able to explain that to me.

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          Mama Sinhalam,

          Well they can claim the land they live on as belongs to them. But in the same time they should acknowledge the fact that the same land was once belonged to the Sinhalese and they settled on the land later on.

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            What a load of bullshit. What is the proof that this polyglot kallathonis who call themselves Sinhalese now, sundry fishermen, cinnamon peelers, and toddy tappers, can claim that the whole island belonged to them. We can have peace in the country if we can send back these karawes, salagamas, berawes and others to where they came from. Only the Indians will not take back these dimwits like Shenal.

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              Mama Sinhalam,

              It is hilarious to see how Tamils like you get butt hurt after a defeating soundly in a discussion about a Tamil history of Sri Lanka. Tamils are furious to the point that they are even willing to throw away the Southern Caste out of Sri Lanka just to appease their egos.

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            Sinhalese have never had a peep into the ancient Tamil lands in the north and east until 1948 , when the British handed the entire island to them on a platter. What was declared the Tamil lands in the north and east , are the lands , where the Sinhalese had no remote claim to. The British unfairly entertained any frivolous and remote claims of the Sinhalese to lands in the north and east and took large chunks of Tamil lands from the north and east and created the North Central and North Western provinces and declared them Sinhalese , when it is fairly obvious that areas like Puttalam Chilaw . Padaviya( Padavi kullam) were Tamil. Stop lying you , go and tell these fair tales to your ardent fans at Lanka Lies. Most of the present day so called Sinhalese are descended from fairly recently migrated South Indian immigrants( 90% Tamil the rest from other parts of South India) who converted to Buddhism and Catholicism and took on a Sinhalese identity. This included your Karawa ancestors. Now all see many of these recently Sinhalised South Indian low castes beating the anti Tamil drum , with their Mahavamsa fairy tales and fake Aryan origin One lot claiming a fake Aryan origin and another lot of converted low caste immigrants claiming a fake Arab origin. All this to hide their actual largely low caste Immigrant South Indian(Tamil ) origin.

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              RSSS, “Sinhalese have never had a peep into the ancient Tamil lands in the north and east until 1948.” Wrong! We’ve peed in the ancient Tamil lands in the north and east even after 1948.

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              Real Siva Sankaran Sharma,

              We are not going to give you a separate home land nor we are going to give you federal powers. Go to Tamilnadu or England or Canada for that matter and seek a separate homeland their. We don’t need folks like you who do not want to reconcile nor want to help the country progress.

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                Who cares about what you think and what want to give.low caste Karawa woman whose Dalit slave ancestors were imported into the island by the Portuguese and Dutch from Tamil Nadu. Our self determination and rights depend on us and not on you genocidal racists. We know that you and most of the Sinhalese are hell bent on our destruction. Why should we go to Tamil Nadu or Canada? If you wish you go there. After all you and the ancestors of half the so called present day Sinhalese, and 95% of the so called fake Arab Sri Lankan Muslims , many of them now baying for Tamil blood , only arrived from Tamil Nadu a few centuries ago. You go there and claim for your land in some fishing village in Southern Tamil Nadu , racist Karawa woman.

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                  Real Siva Sankaran Sharma,

                  Your self determinable rights go right through the window in the Sinhalese island. Go and look for the self determination in India. Sri Lanka don’t give any of this to Tamils. Tamilnadu is your birthplace. It is where your culture and tradition is go their among your kin and practice your own nonsense their. Sinhalese don’t have to go to Tamilnadu because we have nothing in common with them. But you have. How many times are you going to deny that you have nothing in common with Tamils in Tamil nadu?

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                  What disgraceful language. You shame all Tamils. How can you call the Sinhalese racists when you write such words? From the Unreal SSS lead me to the Real.

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                Shenal,

                It is shame on you. When you lose arguments, you always talk like that. Leader Prabhakaran did not think that you will give Tamil Eelam and that is why he fought with Sinhala Government. It is IC defeated the Tamils’ Freedom fight so Tamils are keeping their claims with IC. You didn’t defeat and no point in talking to you. Even the Norway Envoy who worked for Lankawe government openly said the Sinhala governments will not give back Tamils’ rights unless they fight and get it. Shiva Shankar Menon who worked Old Royals has said similar things in his books. We depend on that kind of statements to get our land back, but not yours like “You go to India”. It is sure you not just cannot survive in India or England, but even in Lankawe, so everybody seeing the reason you rush ahead to be first to say that.

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            Shenal the stupid,

            “land was once belonged to the Sinhalese”

            What evidence do you have to prove that the North and East was occupied by the Sinhalese before the Tamils?

            Which chronicle says North & East was occupied by the Sinhalese? Which literature says North & East was occupied by the Sinhalese? Which epigraphic inscription says North & East was occupied by the Sinhalese? Which archeological evidence unearthed so far says North & East was occupied by the Sinhalese? Are you talking about the Buddhist sites? How can you assume that the Buddhist sites of the early historical period belongs only to the Sinhalese? Even the Sinhala biased archeological authority of the past, the late Dr. Senerath Paranavithana has described in his book `Glimpses of Ceylon`s Past` that the Buddhist temple Velgam Vehera in Trincomalee is an `Ancient Buddhist shrine of the Tamil people`.

            You will only say, the place names sound Sinhalese. Contemporary Sri Lanka has place names which contain roots derived from Elu, Pali, Sanskrit, Sinhala, Tamil, Malayalam, Portuguese, Dutch, and English. Please show us any research by an authentic linguistic scholar (a credible source), someone who has extensive knowledge in early South Asian languages (Elu, Pali, Sanskrit, Sinhala, Tamil, Malayalam) who has analyzed the place names in North & East if you have any, not just half-baked pseudo- scholars. What evidence do you have to prove?

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              Jaffna Boy,

              I usually don’t name call people. But I think you need to be taught a good lesson on Sri Lankan history.

              The main evidences are the treaties signed between Sinhalese kings and the Europeans colonizers. Every colonizer who had signed treaties with Sinhalese kings have specifically mentioned about the areas which comes under the suzerainty of the Sinhalese king. North and East are mentioned in those treaties as under the rule of the Sinhalese king. That is why Tamils have no legal right to claim parts of Sri Lanka as their own.

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      mama Sinhalam:-
      “The fact is that they all came from India, like the rest of us.”

      Wrong! We All came from Africa! Even Donald Trump, Barak Obama and the Queen of England!

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    Mass,

    You’ve made absolutely silly, silly, silly counter arguments with lies. Always keep in mind that Sri Lanka is a Buddhist country, not a Muslim country at all. Pirith is soothing , but screaming at the top of the lungs in Arabic language that nobody can understand is hideous.

    Mao Tse Tung and Pol Pot were not Buddhists, they were Marxists who denounced any religion.

    Mohideen Baig is well respected by Buddhists, you can always his songs on any special occasions.

    Tell your fellow Muslims to leave Kuragala, Dewanagala, 10000 acre Muhudumaha viharaya, 15000 acre Digawaiya, Dabulla holy city, Anuradhapura holy city, WILPATTUWA, and other Buddhist archeological sites without making any demands or conditions.

    Muslims are yet prove their worth to Sri Lanka, so far their contribution to Sri Lankan society is in the minus (-). Muslims couldn’t be bothered to join the army and fight the LTTE terrorists, but so many Muslims have gone abroad to join Jihadis.

    Muslim foreigners who don’t have work visas are working in high street Muslim owned stores, farms, and other businesses.

    ‘Wada pethi’ or not Muslim eateries sell food that is unsuitable for human consumption. Public Health Inspectors (PHIs) have been assaulted have been assaulted on regular basis by Muslims.

    Western intelligence agencies have warned SL government about some Muslim politicians and Muslim organizations.

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      John your Statement:-
      ” Pirith is soothing , but screaming at the top of the lungs..” of Pirith, on a Megaphone is not!
      The Buddha would have been ashamed, at how His Dhamma and Suttas are being used to Copy the Ill Mannered Habits of Others!

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    Instead of acting like frogs in the well, why don’t you check and compare the Bengali language and Sinhala language word for word, then you will find out where is the origin of Sinhala is,

    the problem with you Jaffna Tamils is that you think you are smart but in reality 80% of what you utter are lies.

    Also there is big difference between Dravidian Tamils and Jaffna Tamils, the former 1000 times better than the later, this is an undeniable fact.

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      Concerned citizen,

      What is this nonsense man. One is saying Sinhalese is almost identical to Tamil now you are saying Sinhalese is almost identical to Bengali. There can be two identical identities to Sinhalese. Either it should be Tamil or Benagali. However, as far as I am concerned it is neither. If not Sinhalese could have easily understand Tamil or Bengali. But it is not the case. Now do you understand who is the frog in the well?

      What is the big difference between Dravidian Tamils and Jaffna Tamils? Would you care to explain it to us.

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      The common element is the amount of Sanskrit derived words . however the foundation and substratum of Sinhalese is Dravidian/Tamil. Go and read what real historians and scholars have stated. It is you who is the frog in the well.

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        RSS
        “…the foundation and substratum of Sinhalese is Dravidian/Tamil.”
        Who is your source?
        Sinhala was influenced by Pali, Sanskrit ans Tamil, roughly in that order.
        It is classified by linguists as an Indo-Aryan language. But race is something else.
        Do some serious study before blabbering.

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          The only person blabbering is you and not me. Even the Sinhalese admit that Hela is old Sinhalese and call the island Hela diva ( the island of the Hela people). Hela is the Pali name for the native indigenous semi Tamil Dravidian dialect of the island Elu , from which the ancient Tamil name Eelam is derived. Elu+ Prakrit = Hela or old Sinhalese, which was very close to its Tamil mother in pronunciation than modern Sinhalese . The grammar lexicon syntax and alphabet of the Sinhalese language is 100% based on Tamil and not on Pali or Sanskrit. Around 35-40% of the present day Sinhalese vocabulary including its core words are derived from Tamil. Sinhalese is based on a solid Dravidian foundation on which an Indo Aryan superstructure has been built. White Aryan supremacists in the 1920s drunk with the Aryan supremacist theory and the Mahavamsa Sinhala Aryan fairy tale, did not properly and scientifically examine the Sinhalese language properly and just superficially looked at the 60-65% Pali Sanskrit borrowed/derived words and classified it as Indo Aryan. Coming and constantly attacking me under various identities , does not bother me or stop me from stating the truth , that even many renowned unbiased Sinhalese linguists and historians have stated.

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            “RSS
            “…the foundation and substratum of Sinhalese is Dravidian/Tamil.”
            This has been discussed previously in detail when Dharshanie ratnawalli wrote a series of articles in CT.
https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/brought-to-sihaladipa-and-put-into-sihalabhasa-for-the-benefit-of-the-dipavasin
            http://ratnawalli.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Prof.-James-W.-Gair-Studies-in-South-Asian-Linguistics-Sinhala-other-South-Asian-languages.pdf
            one of recent articles of the same subject which I read with interest recently
            LANGUAGE CONTACT AND LINGUISTIC AREA: SINHALA — TAMIL CONTACT SITUATION
Sandagomi Coperahewa
Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Sri Lanka
New Series, Vol. 53 (2007), pp. 133-152
            Coming back to your argument that “the foundation and substratum of Sinhalese is Dravidian/Tamil” is not shared shared by learned linguistic scholars.
Prof Gair asserts that Sinhalese language remained an Indo aryan isolate amidst the sea of Dravidean languages.
            I am not a language scholar, But I appreciate Sinhala and Tamil languages co existed with each other for more than a millennium. The foundation and substratum of sinhala language is primarily Ind Aryan based on
            1. Phonological characteristics: please refer to the table 14.3 pg 197
            2. Vocabulary: Having familiar with colloquial and formal Sinhalese vernacular I can say Sinhalese language has a preponderance of Sanskrit words in comparison to Tamil/Dravidian words.
            3. Grammar: This is primarily borrowed from Tamil as per Siddhlangara, though I have not read it.
            4. Syntax: no comment
            5. Writing: Sinhalese letters ( alphabet) have a lot of similarities to Tamil and other south Asian languages. It also uses different words for writing in comparison to spoken Sinhala.

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          SJ you just cut and paste without understanding.

          Yes it was said Sinhalese are Aryans and Sinhala is an Aryan Language. Infect Sinhala has more North Indian Words than Tamil or South Indian words. With that all said, all that words came through learning Buddhism. Buddhism started only vernacular Languages. That is why TN Buddhism was in Tamil, but Hinduism has Sanskrit mix. Eve Tamil said to have had about 50% Sanskrit and now stand corrected. Arunagiri’ Muthai Tharu cannot be understood by Tamils because of heavy mixing of Sanskrit, but much older Naladiyar easy even to understand by children, so as a subject for them. But at any point Tamil was not categorized as Indo Aryan language.
          Sinhala is not Indo Aryan, but it is (wrongly) categorized with Southern Zone Indo Aryan languages. Maharashtra falls into that category. Northern Kannada within last 1500 years, by two heavy waves of Sanskrit attack turned into Maharashtra. It is said it is still holding on to its Dravidic Grammar base. Sinhala doesn’t fit into that category. Other than the words, it clearly stands as a Dravidic language. All the North Indian words in Sinhala are learned words, unlike Maharashtra where Sanskrit’s direct influence there (but not much Pali that is what heavy in Sinhala, next to Tamil). There is no Indo Aryan race mix in Sinhalese, unlike in Maharashtra. More than 50% of non-Tamil words in Sinhala do not make it a non Dravidian Language.
          Those, who categorized Sinhalese as Aryans, with the same Mouth Categorized Sinhala as an Aryan Bhashawe. If you just copy Wikipedia it doesn’t get there.

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    Nitwit Shenali, the Sinhalayas are the original kallathonis. All problems will be solved if we get them back to where they came from. Only India will not be willing to take them back .

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      Mama Sinhalam,

      Original Kallathonies? How did you come to that conclusion?

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        Well the great book of lies, Mahawamsa says that that Vijaya born of the buggery of the lion, was expelled from India. Sensible that his descendants and the others , Karawes who came to fish from India, Salagamas who came to peal cinnamon, Berawes who came to beat drums and the Devas should all go back to where they came from. They are the original kallathonis. The Tamils could have walked across from Tamilnadu to Eelam

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          Mama Sinhalam,

          Do you believe in Mahavansa? Then there should be no problem for you to accept that there was no Tamil country in Sri Lanka.

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            Shenal the stupid,

            If you read the Mahavamsa carefully, even Dutugemunu’s father King Kavantissa the king of Rohana (Kingdom in Southern Sri Lanka) had told Dutugemunu not to invade (Rajarata) the land of the Damilas. He had said, Rohana the region on this side of the river (Southern territory) has enough land. There is evidence in the Mahavamsa that the Northern territory (Rajarata) was occupied by the Tamils. It says, Dutugemunu had to conquer not just one Tamil king (Elara) but 32 Tamil Chieftains around the Anuradhapura principality alone. He also killed around sixty thousand Tamils in the war. How could there be 32 Tamil chieftains in the area of Anuradhapura alone and sixty thousand Tamils any Tamil settlements (Demel-gam-bim) in Anuradapura?

            If you are lazy to read the Mahavamsa, go and watch the Sinhala movie “Maharaja Gemunu”, you can clearly see that the Northern kingdom and the Southern kingdom were separated not only by Tamils and Sinhalese but also by the river.

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              Jaffna Boy,

              If Rajarata was the land of the Damilas why the heck you elamists only want Jaffna and Eastern parts of the country to be your own. Why don’t you claim Rajarata as well? I don’t understand where is this magnanimity comes from.

              Elara was an invader. There is no conclusive proof to determine that he was a native chief. Even so, what is the connection between Elara and Jaffna? or Elara and Eastern province? Would you care to explain.

              “Demala Gam Bim” was the settlements of the Tamil people who had co existed with the Sinhalese community of the Rajarata. They were friends some times and enemies some other times. They have nothing to do with Jaffna peninsula or Eastern province.

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        Shenal the stupid,

        The word kallathoni has no meaning in the Sinhala language. It is a Tamil word our forefathers used to call those boat people who came to the island in boats from India illegally and settled in the South. Today they have become Sinhalese.

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      Yes you are right…… Sin Keleyas are ‘ KALLATHONIYAS’ .. Vijayan’s family who were deported from India came to ceylon and then breed like dirty rats in jungles .

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    RSS, for a change, why don’t you look up the bengali language and see wether its closer to tamil language or bengali, then you can decide, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, not some nonsense history.

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      Many words in so called Dravidian Telugu language is far closer to North Indian languages than to its Dravidian mother Tamil, because Telugu has borrowed so many Sanskrit words in its original form, that not even many north Indian words have not done, but it is still classified as Dravidian as its core language is Dravidian. Take all the borrowed words and what remains is Dravidian. Many of core words in Sinhalese are of Tamil origin but most people will not recognise this. Ala ( waterfall fast running rivulet) from Tamil Ali. Goda from Tamil Koadu( mound) Borellu ( small stones) from Tamil Parukai. Govi ( farmer the one who reaps or plucks) from Tamil Koi to reap pluck. Yata/Yati( bottom) from Tamil Adi/Yadi. The list goes on. Take of all the Tamil derived words from Sinhalese and there will be no such language called Sinhalese but Sanskrit /Pali. It is the core 40% Tamil element in the Sinhalese vocabulary that makes it different. Sinhalese evolved as a language far earlier than Bengali. Many words in English are derived from the Latin , French, Greek but English is still Germanic,

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      It had been observed that it is easy to mislead people of so-called developing countries than to lead them. In Sri Lanka it had become easy to set up the Sinhala against the Tamils and vice versa on the wrong interpretation of historical facts, in trying to make Sinhalese Aryan decendents while logically Sinhalese are as much Dravidians as the Tamils themselves. Let us examine some of the similarities between Sinhala, Sinhalese and Tamils of Sri Lanka.
      . Even Jathika Chintanaya exponents have admitted that culturally there is no difference between the Sinhalese and Tamils. But how many or what percentage of Sinhalese appreciate this fact.
      . Worship of gods (idol worship) is a common feature of Tamil Hindus and Sinhala Buddhists of Sri Lanka. Murugan worship is not a feature of the Aryans of India while Sinhala Buddhists do worship God Murugan, and Pattini not Kali/Durga like the Bengali. Offering of flowers to worship Gods was a creation of Dravidians and later adopted by the Aryans, but offering of flowers at worship as an original practice came to Sinhala Buddhists because they too were Dravidians like the Tamils.. Let us examine the language similarities between Sinhala and Tamil: a. Sinhala scripts resemble Dravidian scripts more than Aryan scripts.b. Sinhala grammer and idioms are closer to Tamil than any other. In fact first Sinhala grammer book was written by a South Indian Tamil. Book is known as Siddathsangarawa based on Tamil grammer Virasolium.It is also a fact that Tamil language has contributed in a big way to the Sinhala vocabulary. . Buddhist priests who spearheaded spread of Buddhism in Ceylon were Dravidians. They found it easy to propogate Buddhism here because people living here were Dravidians.
      Aryans of India do not observe April New Year. It is observed by Dravidians of S. India, Tamils of Sri Lanka and Sinhalese.

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      Most of the controversial issues in relation to the Tamil, Sinhala race and language can be solved if we understand and accept that Sinhalese are as much Dravidians as the Tamils themselves.
      Pioneer priests who introduced Buddhism in Ceylon were Dravidians, who were born Hindus. That is why Asian Buddhists adopted Hindu gods in their worship pattern.
      What percentage of Sri Lankan Buddhists appreciate the fact the sage Mahinda who introduced Buddhism in Ceylon is a Dravidian and not a relation of King Asoka.
      Sinhala scholar Mudliyar Gunawardena at a lecture delivered at Ananda College on 28.09.1918 had stated “….the science of exmination of the structure of a sentence is called its grammar. The grammar of the Sinhala language is Dravidian…”
      Prof. J. B. Dissanayake in his book “Understanding the Sinhalese” at page 118 states “….Sinhala occupies a unique position among the languages of South Asia because of its close affinity, with two of the major linguistic families of the Indian sub continent Indo-Aryan and Dravidian…” From this, one can conclude that Sinhala in written form could have been made by one or many, who knew both Dravidian and Aryan language. Thus early Dravidian Buddhist priests were scholars in Tamil, Pali and Sanskrit, to make Sinhala in spoken and written form possible.

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    Interestingly, you say that in Madrasas training is given to instigate violence. I am wondering to which Madrasa did the LTTE leader Prabhakaran go to. He was responsible for thousands of killings.
    We predict earlier the higher cunning Usuf to surpass in racism Hilmy. He did it already. His selective memory doesn’t remember the Madrassa built by Badiuddin Muhamad is the one Pirapaharan attended. The coward is not ready site the realities took place in Lankawe. In reality it not accounted LTTE’s civilian murders even as 1000, which included retaliation on Sinhala and Muslim villagers, who killed Tamils and occupied their lands in those villages. The shameless slave, Sinhala Pantham Usuf did not ask where did where did Old King went who in fact carried out Aluthgama, Ampari and Kandy in addition to killing in 2009, 150000 Tamil civilians. He didn’t ask of Premadasa and Ranil who are responsible of 80,000 Sinhala youths, in 1989 and Sirimavo 40,000 – 60,000 youths in 1971.
    If he wants to be cunning not to mention Sinhala leaders and miss his collie couldn’t he asked which Madrassa attended by Vijeweera, who killed in 1989 alone 12,000 Sinhala People,
    To which Madrasa did Hitler go to? He exterminated six million Jews? The world won’t believe this crocodile tears. Iran said there was no holocaust

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    Retarded ………..loony women smelling shameless Perer-ass

    “Such a primitive religion I’ll tell you.”

    Maybe maybe not.
    Buddhism is an advanced philosophy nevertheless its essence has been perverted, misrepresented and almost destroyed by the Sinhala/Buddhist Fascists.

    “No wonder in China they have banned baby names such as Mohommad, Ahamed and Hussein.”

    There are other Chinese practices Sri Lanka could have copied. Had Sri Lanka enforced China’s one child policy in I am sure we would not have wastes time responding to your typing.

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    Yusuf, Dr. Sarath Gamini De Silva says, “You state that Quran teaches love and compassion for fellow human beings but we see little evidence of that”. With all the Mettha, Muditha, Karuna, Upekkha that I can muster, I must say that the good Doctor is wrong. Completely wrong.

    The phrase in contention here is “we see little evidence of that.” I propose that it should be changed as “we see absolutely no evidence of that”. All I see is a major religion that is absolutely and completely devoid of compassion.

    You know what your problem is Sarath? It is the reluctance to call a spade a spade. It is this undeserving and misplaced effort to be civilized with a primitive and the most violent and unforgiving religion that is at the root of the problem. They misuse our generosity to attack us.

    Even Bush fell in to the trap of calling it one of the great religions. But then Bush was an idiot. We are not. Some say he was not an idiot but a clever war monger out to destroy Islam. My problem is not whether Islam is violent or not. No. My problem is how anyone with an iota of intelligence and honesty can be a follower of such a religion.

    Again, I reiterate, if anyone is contemplating embracing Islam, even on a trial basis, DON”T EVEN THINK OF IT.

    It is a one-way street from which no one has come back alive. Let people like Mas L Yusus go on believing in such nonsense if they so desire. They have no other option. But we have many other options. And that makes us lucky.

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    Mass,

    I am a Muslim. Whatever said and done, the truth is that, today Sinhalese and Tamils, even Christians have better dignity, honesty and respect for humanity than Muslims in Sri Lanka.

    We the Muslims, wait for someone point fingers at us online (only online) to attack them forgetting the real situation of Muslims. Why can’t we, the Muslims correct ourselves first? Some Muslims are into selling narcotics, cheating others, suppressing our women, the rich ones, care very less about others, the rich ones stay away from the poor not realizing the day-to-day hardship these poor go into it, though Islam says not to segregate others, we do it to make sure that the poor don’t come in our way, we give little importance to education and our younger generations are not capable to be in line with the younger generations of other communities, we don’t do family planning and end up unable to give quality education, childhood or up-bringing to our kids, our women has no idea of what is going around the world and their men have to be around them all times to guide them, our traders who serve better to majority community out of fear and not give any care to fellow Muslims and Tamils, seeing lucrative opportunities in education, we come up with too many international Muslims schools without any quality in them, we the Muslims put up fast food huts every corner possible in Muslim areas with no idea of food processing or health and end up at General hospitals to increase health care expenses of the country, it is only the over power that can control the younger Muslim men and as a result, only the Sinhalese women are respected by these men in public, not the Tamils or Muslim women.

    Many Muslims may dislike me for these, but aren’t these true? When are we going to improve ourselves? Even I commented and was against Dr. Sarath’s article with a reason. Our community in SL has to under go some rigorous changes before we can point our fingers at others.

    Leaders, ulamas, politicians and all other professionals should take responsible approach to reform this entire selfish and ignorant community first.

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