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All Peoples Have The Right Of Self-Determination

By C.V. Wigneswaran

C.V Wigneswaran

C.V Wigneswaran

While I sit down to prepare this message on the 9th of December this year in time for the World Human Rights’ Day declared for the 10th of December, an important fact comes to light. During the early part of this year the United Nations General Assembly had adopted 9th of December for the first time as the International Day of Commemoration and Dignity of the Victims of the Crime of Genocide and of the Prevention of this Crime. Remembering all those victims of Genocide I proceed to prepare this Message.

The curtailment of the awesome power of the State and the prevention of its abuse against individuals and/or Peoples have been the object of the journey towards Human Rights. The holocaust of the Jewish people was the immediate trigger for the United Nations to embark in the year 1948 on the venture of detailing the human rights of individuals, shifting the focus of International Law from the rights of States to the rights of individuals and peoples.

Every right in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights has now been spelt out in detail in subsequent Conventions and Declarations on the subject. Machinery to ensure that the rights are observed have been devised through the Human Rights’ Council and the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights.

The principles enunciated in the UN documents on Human Rights have special significance for Sri Lanka. They have great significance for the plight that Tamils find themselves in.
In every sense, the rights of Tamils as individuals and as a People have been violated over the course of time by the Governments of Sri Lanka.

The United Nations Covenant on Civil and Political Rights promises all Peoples the right of self determination. Article 1 of the Covenant reads: ” All peoples have the right of self-determination. By virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development”.

This legitimate right of self-determination has been denied to the Tamils; instead, their right to equality, a central human right, has been violated throughout the period of Sri Lanka’s existence. The right to life of individual Tamils has been violated through extra-judicial killings in which the State and its agents actively participated. There has been no accountability for any of the killings that have taken place.

The right to liberty, again a non-defeasible right stated in the Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, continues to be violated with the incarceration of many hundreds of young Tamils detained without trial or deprived of proper hearings. Their continued imprisonment is a continuing violation of this important right by the Government of Sri Lanka. It is incumbent on the part of the Government of Sri Lanka to release these prisoners without any delay and demonstrate its commitment to human rights. I am expecting His Excellency the President conscious of the need to release our Tamil political prisoners, to soon do so by an open Amnesty.

A Resolution of the Northern Provincial Council in February this year had already characterised the consecutive killings of Tamil civilians as genocide. Needless to say an obligation arises on the Government of Sri Lanka to ensure that the perpetrators of the genocide are brought to trial. But recent statements by Government leaders are confusing and contradictory but consistent in one respect in that they play down the extent of the system crimes so clearly outlined by the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights in its Report on Sri Lanka this year.

The Pinheiro Principles are a set of principles that are to be followed so that people displaced through war or other like incidents are restored to the lands they occupied prior to the event. Today the lands of our People are in the occupation of the Army. Such occupation is in violation of the International Human Rights’ law. Consistency with such laws requires that the occupation by the Army is ended and the lands restored to its original owners.

Successive Governments of Sri Lanka have indulged in Human Rights’ violations continually. Even after the 8th of January this year there had been incidents of White Van abductions. Consistency with Human Rights requires that in the light of various violations of human rights by successive governments of Sri Lanka, a constitutional solution consistent with the right to self determination of the Tamil people is brought about so as to find a lasting solution to the continuous violations of Tamil rights. It is then that Human Rights’ Day would truly be applicable to this Country.

*Justice C.V.Wigneswaran – Chief Minister, Northern Province

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    tamils should not have self determination in SL….they can enjoy that in tmailnadu

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      C.V. Wigneswaran,

      Irrespective of the consequences the truth mus be told, as you do, sir.

      Even the present so-called good government is is trying to gloss over, cover up, or even deny the crimes against Tamil rights committed by the successive Sri Lankan governments.

      The present government’s main concern is to keep the Sinhala Buddhist racists happy as all governments since independence did.

      Remember what the father of the present constitution, JR Jeyaawardene said after the massive anti-Tamil pogrom in 1983: …if I starve the Tamils Sinhala people will be happy…

      The mind set is still alive and kicking.

      The imperial powers in this world, however try to manipulate or down play or even deny the rights of people for self determination to their advantage ans selfish interests.

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        First of all I must confess, I don’t know past history (Tamil or Sinhalese) very well, and more importantly I don’t want to know. So my observations are mainly based on looking at the future.

        “The present government’s main concern is to keep the Sinhala Buddhist racists happy as all governments since independence did.”

        What you say is true. But is Tamil self-rule or a separate country the answer? A country/self-rule or anything based on ethnicity/race/what-have-you is going to end up in disaster. All “freedom struggles” based on ethnicity/race/religion end up achieving nothing but abrogating the “right” to abuse your people from outsiders and passing it on to your own kind. Look at “Sinhalese Sri Lanka,” imagine the euphoria that would have been around at the time of independence. Look at us now. What is the difference between being abused by white English rulers or your own kind the Sinhalese rulers? To me if I am abused I am abused; who is abusing me is secondary. I do not get any special consolation if I am abused by my own kind. If one’s rights are violated to the extent that one can’t live in one’s own country, what kind of freedom is that? After 60 odd years of glorious Sinhalese freedom, Sinhalese are now by hook or crook are trying to enter ex-colonizer’s country or any of its’ outposts, by boat, plane or foot. Let’s cut the patriotic crap and be honest here. I don’t care for your words; I know how Lankans have voted with their feet.

        There is never ever going to be a Tamil homeland where all Tamils will find freedom just as there is no Sinhalese homeland where all Sinhalese have found freedom. It’s just pie in the sky.

        The only Sri Lanka where we all will feel free is a secular Sri Lanka where all the people have the same rights. If you want to be a Buddhist, go and be a Buddhist is your own space; what has it got to do with me? I don’t want a religion to know what is right and wrong. If you want to be Sinhalese/Tamil/Buddhist/Christian/Hindu …… go and be whatever you want to be in your own space; don’t infringe mine.

        Like computer chips approach a end point (speed, size, power etc) with diminishing returns, struggles for freedoms/rights too approach an end-point. In the situation we are in, we are trying to approach that point through an “uncomprehended journey” of conflict and violence. The trick is, we can circumvent/short-circuit the whole shindig and start from the end-point by utilizing intellect – if we have talent and malevolent-intellect to kill each other for 30 years; I don’t think this is that difficult. It’s just that our efforts are directed in the wrong direction. :))

        The task that the Sri Lankan intelligentsia (who are writing here) should undertake is to wean the country from dependency on religions. And simply come up with a set of rules/ethics devoid of Religious/ideological/ethinic/racial ….. connotations. So the arguments/conflicts will strictly be confined to the rules/ethics themselves and wont provides nooks and crannies for people to hide their other intentions – there is no Buddha, Allah, Vishnu, Marx …. said this or that.

        John Rawls’ A Theory of Justice is a good starting point.

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      ela kolla

      “tamils should not have self determination in SL….they can enjoy that in tmailnadu”

      So should the Sinhala/Buddhists whose ancestors came from the same south Indian genetic pool.

      Please leave, when you go take your Tamil brethren with you so both can enjoy unfettered sovereignty and self determination under Amma’s rule.

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        Native, writing in English to Colombo Telegraph won’t help much. Why don’t you help Wingeswaran take his genocide message right into the grass roots level. I mean educating the Tamil speaking school children in areas outside North and East about the genocidal nature of Sinhala Buddhists. This will encourage them to settle in the North and East and eventually when the ratio exceeds 90 to 10 it will just be a cake walk.

        Soma

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          Kollo, can we send 10 million syrian refugees so that you forget about the tamils?

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          somaass

          ” writing in English to Colombo Telegraph won’t help much. “

          Would you like me to write in Pali, Sanskrit or Latin? Maybe Persian.

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        stupid vedda, you never disappoint the CT readers with your trash

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          ela kolla

          ” you never disappoint the CT readers with your trash”

          My comment was addressed to you. I was looking for a bin to dump trash.

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      ela kola

      The Tamils live all over the world including South India (a part which the British named as Tamil Nadu in 1956) but the actual traditional native country of the Tamils is Eelam and history says the ancient Tamil was born on the sacred earth Eelam which is now called Sri Lanka. That is why the Tamils demand for a separate Tamil country in Sri Lanka (Eelam) and NOT in Tamil Nadu.

      The first Tamil Sangam was held in this land. It is believed that God Siva attended the first Tamil Sangam. The Island of Sri Lanka was not a Buddhist island but a Siva Bhoomi – the Land of Siva right from the beginning. All the ancient rulers of Sri Lanka were Siva worshippers.

      It was only recently the Sinhalese (Sinhabahu’s people who came from India) started calling Sri Lanka as the Dhamma Deepa of Buddha after the Buddhist missionary monk Mahinda introduced Buddhism where as the Tamils still call Sri Lanka as Eelam, the sacred Tamil land of Siva.

      The original Siva boomi (sacred land of the Tamils) is the right full place for the Tamils. This is the reason why the world Tamils (including the Tamils in Tamil Nadu) are trying to establish a Tamil country known as Tamil Eelam in Sri Lanka and NOT in India (Tamil Nadu).

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        Ravi, why don’t you go and fly a kite in the Galle Face green.

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          Someee, are you a muslim to think of the green??
          first try tying a string to the sun.
          kites are better flown in the paddy fields.

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        Sorry for the typo…

        It should be

        (a part which the British named as Tamil Nadu in 1946)

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          Ravi
          Get you facts right.
          During the time of the British in 1946 it was referred to as Madras State and only on 14th January 1969 was it’s name changed as Tamil Nadu by the DMK government.

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        Ravi

        Here we go again.

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        ravi, you should be a comedian

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        Ravi
        When the Americans hand over the United States to the native Indians we will hand over SL to the Tamils. Agreed?

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          Nuisance

          “When the Americans hand over the United States to the native Indians we will hand over SL to the Tamils. Agreed?”

          No. You are being generous to the Tamils.

          Why don’t the Sinhala/Tamil Kallathonies hand over the island to my people and then demand the Americans to vacate the continent?

          First in first out (FIFO).

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            Then you can hand over some of it to my people, you bloody hypocrite! My family have not forgotten how you trapped the Nittaewos in a cave and burnt us alive including women, children and disabled… what did we do to you? Steal your bananas and papaws? Even if we did take a coconut, it was to feed our children and elders. The jungle belongs to every living creature you moron! Luckily, only a handful of families survived hiding from the marauding Veddas but a war crime is still war crime. We will have our day in court and I will personally see that you are the first out.

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              Native Nittaewo

              Please go away.

              No one has ever produced any tangible evidence of Nittaewo.

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      ela kolla the dog, you can also enjoy your freedom in Orissa. Leave SL for the original owners of the country – Veddahs.

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        Tamil from the north

        Thank you.

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      Genetic and historical evidence has proven beyond doubt that it is not the indigenous Eelam Tamil from the north and east who has a predominantly Dravidian South Indian Tamil origin but is the Sinhalese and the so called Sri Lankan Moors. One now claims a fake Aryan origin the other a fake Arab origin. However DNA and historical evidence has proved that the ancestors of both people overwhelmingly migrated from the then Tamil parts of South India. The indigenous Sri Lankan Tamils have the least amount of these ancestry. So if any one has to return to Tamil Nadu it will be the vast majority of the present day Sinhalese and almost every one of these so called fake Arab in reality largely low caste converted Dravidian Indian Tamil Sri Lankan Muslims.
      The North East and large parts of the north western coast have always been Tamil never Sinhalese. Other than a few years here and there. They have been continuously and historically occupied by the Eelam Tamil people. Ruled by Tamil kings and chiefs. These lands have been historically recognised the land of the Tamils by the Portuguese the Dutch the British the international Indo Sri Lankan agreement and even by various post independence Sri Lankan governments Eg the BC pact the 1965 DS Chelvanaygam pact. Trying to ethnically cleanse hundreds pf thousands of Tamil plunder their land and illegally settle Sinhalese and Muslims in these lands using the might of the government and the racist Sinhalese armed forces( the main reason for them remaining in the Tamil areas is for this purpose nothing to do with security to help with the Sinhalisation of Tamil lands)does not change this fact.
      The Tamils have every right for self determination in these areas. The right for self determination is enshrined in the UN charter. The UN charter also states whenever a people face genocide violence ethnic cleansing and a threat to their very existence, from the state apparatus where they live or from outside( external or internal), they have a right to take up arms to defend themselves from this threat. The Eelam Tamil faced this threat and are still facing this that is why their armed struggle happened. Understood. Sinhalese and their allies can call it terrorism as this suits their racist genocidal agenda and the current situation also helped them to label as such but is was not. Most right minded sane people realised it was a last ditch attempt to save the Tamil people and their existence in the island. What one Sri Lankan president openly comes on the state TV and boats in 1983 ” I can kill and starve the Tamils as much as I like and the Sinhalese will be happy that is all I care” what do you expect the Tamils to do? That this liberation of freedom struggle went of the rails later is another story.

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      Modayas should not have self determination in SL….they can enjoy that in Bengal

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        Why should We Thamizh go to Bengal when we were brought to Sri Lanka from We Thamizh Nadu right next door :D

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          Sarma aka Blocker still crying?

          ROFLMAO!

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            Oh dear, it seems the mad dog has latched on to my leg to try and take revenge for exposing its unmentionables in public – shoo mad creature, shoo :D

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              Take it easy on this unfortunate creature, it`s trying its best to entertain us LMAO.

              It`s always fascinating to see how his mind operates. Shocking similarities with our less evolved simian friends :D

              I heard someone saying, he behaves like a mad dog howling at the moon.LOL!

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                LOL, the deranged mad dog “Suresh” changed its email but forgot to change the name before talking to itself again :D I guess 2 brains cells just aren’t enough to juggle multiple identities without screwing up :D

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                  Ha, ha, ha…LOL!

                  Is this the kind of thing that gives this creature Siva Sankaran Sarma aka Blocker stiffies these days? LOL how very sad.

                  Is that why he is barking like a rabid animal? LMAO!

                  Poor thing can`t handle facts, everything sounds cool to his eyes. LOL!

                  Does anyone expect anything more from Blocker? Lying is the default state of this creature. Copying & pasting FAKE stuff is his inborn talent. Always gets caught with his amude below his knees. LOL!

                  Poor Siva Sankaran Sarma is getting it in style from We Thamizh. No wonder he is howling hysterically due to public buggering :D

                  Cry blocker cry!

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                    The poor thing is still howling in agony, keeps inventing new identities to try and console himself but keeps getting caught and humiliated even further :D Keep blabbering and digging that hole :D

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      C.V. Wigneswaran

      RE: All Peoples Have The Right Of Self-Determination.

      Is it Double speak or Double standards?

      Do All Tamil People Have The Right Of Ethnic Cleansing?

      Forgotten People Tamil Speaking Northern Muslims.

      Forgotten People – The Evicted and Displaced North Muslims of Sri Lanka (English)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JV60McNQ9o

      Published on Jun 1, 2013
      The Evicted and Displaced North Muslims of Sri Lanka. The expulsion of the Muslims and other nations from the Northern province was an act of ethnic cleansing carried out by the Tamil militant Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) organization in October 1990. In order to achieve their goal of creating a mono ethnic Tamil state in the North Sri Lanka, the LTTE forcibly expelled the 72,000 strong Muslim population from the Northern Province.

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    What about the Moors. The ethnic composition of Jaffna in the early 19th century is known to have been mostly Tamil speaking people of Moorish extraction. Jaffna is the rightful land of the Moors.

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      There are not Moors. Their ancestors never came from Morocco or for that matter from any Arabian desert. They are descended from largely low caste immigrant Dravidian Indian Tamils and only arrived in the island a few centuries ago largely as refugees. Fleeing their Tamil homeland in India to the Tamil parts of the island in wooden vessels called Marrakalam( Hence the name Marrakala minissu in Sinhalese) A few of them may have come here earlier as traders but they were only a few. Only a few hundred families amongst them may have some Arab blood, even that is not significants , this little bit of Arab does not make them Moorish or Arab. We all have a little bit of something in us. The Portuguese mistakenly called any Muslim that they met in African or Asia as Moor, as these were the only Muslims they knew, prior to their travels around the world, as the Mooors ( People from MOrrocco) ruled the Iberian peninsula. These immigrant converted largely low caste Indian Tamil Muslims pounced on this mistaken identity and description by the Portuguese to claim a fake Arab origin that they hardly had. They did not want to acknowledge their real lowly low caste Indian Tamil origin, so pathetically clung to this Moorish claim. This was also done as they thought by distancing themselves from their real Tamil heritage they can escape persecution from the Sinhalese majority amongst whom they lives. The Portuguese mistakenly called the Sinhalese Siamese and the Tamils as Malabars, so are they? The British and later all Sinhalese governments in order to divide and rule encouraged these fake Arab origin claims of the Island’s selfish power hungry Muslim elite and deliberately classified them as Moors, instead of correctly calling them Tamil Muslims.
      They were never a majority anywhere in the North for that matter even in large parts of the east. It is only after independence and in the 1970s during Baddudine Mohamad’s time that they rose to prominence in the east, because these immigrant refugee backstabbers with the help of their Sinhalese allies chased many Tamils from their lands.

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        Thanks Paul.

        “Fleeing their Tamil homeland in India to the Tamil parts of the island in wooden vessels called Marrakalam( Hence the name Marrakala minissu in Sinhalese)”

        Just curious – The name Marraikar is it anything to do with Marrakalam?

        I would like to meet you. Can it be done via colombotelegraph?

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          Pauls fairy tales are good for entertainment but not for any academic purpose because there is no evidence what so ever. Every thing comes to him in his dream. If you meet him, he will teach you how to dream like him.

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            “”King Solomon the very image of wisdom who could not do a thing about his son….”

            The Arabs followed the roman route. during the rule of Iberian peninsula (800 years) they went to Calicut to obatain the currency which was pepper corn in the Iberian peninsula. The portugese followed the same trade route. The dutch and english followed the Portugese route.

            The arabs did not drop in at Lanka for trade as cinnamon was available at Morocco, Spain had the best Saffron.
            The north of india was captured by the Mughals but their entry was restricted by the Maratha’s of the Deccan plateau.

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          Yes. Maraicayar, Maraicar refer to a distinctive Tamil and Malayalam-speaking Muslim people of the states of Tamil Nadu and Kerala in India and Sri Lanka. The word Maraicayar originates from the combinations of Tamil words, maraikalam(wooden boat)+rayar(king. Moppila or Moplah is Maha Pillai (great son) . Others state it is derived from the Tamil word Mappilai some one important or a guest. You get the Christian Mapillais( Moplas Syrian Christians or Nasranis) and the Muslim Moplas in Kerala. North Kerla is a Muslim Mopila Stronghold. Marakkar means (Marakkalam is a wooden boat) ‘boatmen’
          Now they are trying to twist this and state that is derived from Markab a boat in Arabic.

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        “”vessels called Marrakalam( Hence the name Marrakala minissu in Sinhalese) A few of them may have come here earlier as traders but they were only a few. “”

        your assumption is off the mark.

        The famous port city of arab, dutch,french, english traders.
        Machilipatnam (About this sound pronunciation (help·info)) is a city in Krishna district of the Indian state of Andhra Pradesh.67 km from Vijayawada.
        The settlement was founded in the 14th century. In the seventeenth century, it was a major trading port for the British, Dutch and French.[6]

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          That was in Andhra Pradesh In India and not in Sri Lanka

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            When the Portuguese India were at Goa till 1970 they transferred Chinese to Bombay too.
            when you understand india (which you don’t) that ruled Lanka directly during European rule you can talk till then try not to play village jackal JT.
            I don’t for a moment believe that jaffnese are aborigines.

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            the romans were at T nadu (coins found recently) and Machili (coins plus the trade in muslin) but did never come to lanka Why so??
            you are kalla thoni symphony orchestra.

            Muslin and Muslim are pretty synonymous

            When Marco Polo visited India, probably some time around 1289-1293, Machilipatnam was a major port of the Kakatiya dynasty. He referred to the place as Mutfiliffn, and it was also known as Masulipatam.

            Muslin clothes were traded by ancient Greeks from the town and the word muslin originated from the name Maisolos.[9] Muslin was an important source of income for the town, being a favourite of Roman traders for domestic consumption. Several Roman coins were found during excavations of Buddhist towns located near Machilipatnam.[10]
            The East India Company built its first factory in India in Masulipatnam, which became a 17th-century trading port for French, British and Dutch ships.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machilipatnam

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              What does ancient Romans Greeks purchasing Muslin from Machilipatnam that was produced largely in what is now modern Bangladesh got to do with the origin of Sri Lankan Muslims? During the time of the ancient Romans and Greeks( not modern Greeks) there was no Islam or Muslim. A few Arab trading posts at Machalipatnam in Kerala along the coasts of Tamil Nadu and even parts of then Tamil North West Sri Lanka, does not make the Sri Lankan Muslims Arabs. You are deliberately trying to mislead and clutch at straws to prove the fake Arab origin of the Sri Lankan Muslims.
              Me a Kallathoni! I am an indigenous Sri Lankan Tamils it is not my ancestors but the ancestors of the Sinhalese and the Sri Lankan Muslims who are Kallathonis. More than 90% from what is modern day Tamil Nadu Kerala and a few from Orissa. It is you not me. So angry that you have started to personally insult me

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                “” what is now modern Bangladesh got to do with the origin of Sri Lankan Muslims”
                The opium sent to china to have hong kong on lease was grown at bangala and transported by the parsis for the english east india company.

                If the world was rational then hitler and japan would be ruling.

                VP would be the king of jaffna.

                The English have bad logic but do what our mind was built for- look for food and maths is an accident.

                You think your village well is the only well.

                you are no different from the Islamist the emotion

                you have no idea of networking the social date.

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                  Again becoming emotional insulting and bringing in many irrelevant arguments that has no connection the origin of the Sri Lankan Muslims. You brought up the story of Muslin and stupidly made a connection to Muslims. I stated where it was really produced and it had nothing to with Muslims, who never existed during the time of the ancient Romans and Greeks. Did I ever state that Modern Bangladesh has something to do with the origin of Sri Lankan Muslims? It is common knowledge that the British starved the poor Bengali farmers and forced them to produce opium that was then sold to the Chinese. This also has nothing to with Sri Lankan Muslims

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        Don’t talk rubbish Paul.

        Anyone with eyes, can see that the Sri Lankan Muslim Population is Ethnically different from Tamils, even though some of them may speak Sinhala or Tamil when settled in Sinhala or Tamil speaking Areas!

        Why don’t you do some DNA testing and verify for yourself?

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          Really how different? A few light skinned rich ones from influential trading families living around Colombo Kandy Galle, who used their wealth to have selectively married in to light skinned Tamil Muslim and other women does not make them different. Lots of light skinned Sinhalese and Tamils too due caste and part European blood but this does not make the Sinhalese and the Tamils Europeans or other western/central Asians. Y
          Your story and comparison is also like this. Show a few hundred Muslim families (numbering around 50000 the most if I Am generous out of the total Sri Lankan Muslim population of around 2 million) that have some mixed blood hence the light skin and then state the island’s entire Tamil Muslim population is of Arab heritage. This is like the Island’s 2 million strong Sinhalese and Tamil Christians claiming a European origin and heritage, stating Christianity was introduced to the island by the European’s hence they are all European by heritage and culture and that also some of the European colonials intermarried into the local Sinhalese and some Tamil females to create a hybrid half/quarter caste microscopic small community called the Burghers, who numbered around 50000 at one time. So show them and state all the island’s Christians are of European Heritage. The Muslim claim to Arab heritage is as stupid as that. Even these so called part Arabs only had a distant Arab ancestor all the rest were Tamils. Arabs never arrived in their thousands to the island or to the southern parts of India but only few hundred and these also over hundreds of years. Their stay was short and brief and only some of them not all took low caste local Tamil women as their keeps( not wives their Arab wives were back home. These were just keeps that a sailor has at every port)They did convert, and more than 95% of the these Muslims are descended from low caste Dravidian converts to Islam from what was then Tamil lands , Kerala modern day Tamil Nadu and southern Andhra Pradesh.
          DNA analysis has proven that there is no genetic difference between the island’s Sinhalese Tamil and Muslim populations and they are all very closely related to the present day population in South India. If there are variations it is very insignificant. Speaking Sinhalese or Tamil does not state anything. Nowadays many Tamils living Sinhala areas now speak Sinhalese and not Tamil. Eg Colombo Chetties Barathas the Negombo Puttlam Chilaw Tamils. In fact around 50% of the so called present Sinhalese were Tamils at one time. Kerala was Tamil a few centuries ago. Even when the Portuguese arrived they were still speaking a form of Tamil. This was the reason they mistook the Jaffna Tamils for Malabars. The court language of Travancore court was also Tamil a few centuries ago.Telugu and Kannada are descended from Proto Dravidian Proto Dravidian is basically Old Tamil, as more than 90% of Proto Dravidian words are found only in Tamil. It has been proven many times beyond doubt that the word Dravidian comes from the word Tamil. Thamil> Thamila> Damila> Dravida. The word Dravida Bhasha always was used to refer to Tamil and not to the other Dravidian languages.

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            paul nice gossiping with you.
            you argue with the polygamist but take care they are coup masters.
            muslim is not a race but a faith.
            no one knows his ancestry beyond 300 years even in the west.

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    Respected sir. Surely are you not aware that these principles of international law are not universally applicable as they seem. International law is really politics of the powerful. I would advice you to be very clear with what you want in sri lanka. These talks of self determination had led to 30 years of backwardness. Please be more responsible and clear with what exactly you want. Also be mindful of the practicality of your demands. Thank you.

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      With respect Reviewcric,
      “These talks of self determination had led to 30 years of backwardness”

      Where did the Sinhalese BUDDHISM took us from 1948?

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        Ofcourse I do accept that it wassinhalese chauvinistic thinking that led to detrimental acts like the sinhala only act, but is not former justice implying the same hard headed agenda? Where in his article has he EVER mentioned the responsibility that is due by the lttes in the claim of genocide of the tamil population. It was the ltte that took entire villages with them when the solders advanced. I dont see any similar outcry in his statement.

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      Birds of the same feather works together. Looks like this Wigneswaran is either paid by the Rajapakshes or some racists to arouse racism and create unnecessary trouble between the government and TNA. It is high time someone should remove this guy from politics. Sinhala racists cannot survive without Tamil racists and vice versa. The government and the TNA leadership should consider this as a conspiracy.

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    So, why they don’t go to Tamilnadu and do that.

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      Jim Shitty, that is because their friends (Sinhalese) came with them on a boat to SL together. They are simply waiting for them to join them on their journey to India.

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    Wigneswaran should ask his two sons to go to Tamilnadu and work for self determination.

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      Jim softy,

      Can you please tell us from which TN tribal area your ancestors came to SL and got converted into Sinhala-Buddhists?

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        It looks like Suresh the schizo has added yet another fake identity to his freak show :D By the way have you contacted Gabdain Buthupantha and Gorboral Abbuhamy yet to confirm your paternity and finally lay to rest the case of your missing We Thamizh high IQ :D

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          Ha, ha, ha… LOL!

          Oh dear, the sad creature Siva Sankaran Sarma aka David Blocker the Army deserter and former govt. dhobi who was licking Gota’s bottom for a few pennies and has become a vagabond now, is projecting again :D
          How unexpected! LOL :D

          He copied and pasted some FAKE maps/web sites and got exposed as a lying, copy pasting ignoramus, and then got busted using multiple identities with funny names (David, Siva, etc) and ended up having to drop off the face of CT for weeks (ran away leaving even his amude), now hoping the humiliation will die down has come again but still crying in pain for getting buggered in public last time, poor thing, the pain has still not gone but we Thamizh cannot relieve his pain in the ass even if we come with any amount of cool stories because the buggering he got last time was so severe. :D

          Please continue to come and cry here until you get buggered further. :D
          Cry blocker cry,
          Blocker baby, cry baby cry!
          LMAO!

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    Chief Minister,

    “Consistency with Human Rights requires that in the light of various violations of human rights by successive governments of Sri Lanka, a constitutional solution consistent with the right to self determination of the Tamil people is brought about so as to find a lasting solution to the continuous violations of Tamil rights.”

    I agree but like many others I am more and more asking how you and the rest of the NPC and TNA politicians are managing the resources that have been provided. You are complaining about lack of funds for development but according to media the NPC does not use even the funding that it receives.

    Are not, for instance, poverty and drinking water also human rights?

    I will post below parts of a relevant article I found today in the Daily News. Feel free to provide facts that show that the writer is wrong.

    http://dailynews.lk/?q=2015/12/11/features/challenges-reconstruction-2016

    ”Undermining the idea of financial devolution is the major decline of allocations for all nine Provincial Councils by 17% this year. In this context, the allocation to the NPC has increased from Rs.20 billion in 2015 to Rs.29 billion in 2016.”

    While other provinces receive less funding the NPC receives more. Who is discriminated?

    ”For example in 2014, only 63% of the Rs. 6 billion in capital expenditure allocated to the NPC was spent. (Finance Ministry Annual Report 2014, page 323) Indeed, in 2014, the year for which the latest data is available, the NPC is one of the lowest spenders of its capital allocation, when compared to other Provincial Councils.”

    “This is a rather shameful situation for a Provincial Council that continues to claim it does not have enough finances and puts forward devolution as its primary political demand.”

    I agree with the writer Ahilan Kadirgamar who appears to be one of the very few Tamils both able and willing to comment on the problems with development in the NP.

    “The worrying development, however, is that the latest NPC Financial Progress Report claims that only Rs. 143 million or 36% of the allocated Criteria Based Grants for 2015 have been spend by October 31, 2015. It is for the NPC and its Chief Minister to provide an explanation for this state of affairs.”

    Yes please Mr Chief Minister. Explain what the problems are.

    Thanking you in advance.

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      ”Criteria Based Grants for 2015”

      Criteria stated by the central government.

      Those criteria are obviously not the same as those of NPC.

      Why should the criteria be set by the central government and not by NPC?

      If the central govt is setting the criteria, there is only delegation of power and not devolution of power to NPC.

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        Davidson,

        “Why should the criteria be set by the central government and not by NPC?”

        Almost all the money comes from the central government and I assume that the same criteria applies to all the provinces not only the NPC.

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    Inspector Dirty Hari

    According to a press news of yesterday, NPC members discussed about their inability to use the allocated funds fully in their yesterday’s meeting and most of them have accused the financial commission in Colombo for not giving its approval on time for the said failure to use the funds fully within the financial year. As far as I understand allocation of capital expenditure does not mean a Council could use its allocated funds as it wants. Council has to submit details of each project and its costs to the financial commission in Colombo and get their approval before it start the works. The unusual delay by the officers in financial Commission to grant the approval is the cause for lowest spending by NPC.

    The government allocate more funds to NPC with one hand but determine to take it back most of it with the other hand by not granting approvals.

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      MR,

      “The unusual delay by the officers in financial Commission to grant the approval is the cause for lowest spending by NPC. The government allocate more funds to NPC with one hand but determine to take it back most of it with the other hand by not granting approvals.”

      Thank you for the information.

      This is one way to explain the problems.

      I would like to know what caused the “unusual delay”. Did it happen because of discrimination or are there other causes?

      My main point is that the NPC and Tamil politicians should not forget the basic needs of the population. They should also admit that almost all the funding comes from the central government and this will not change. Thus there is a need to co-operate with the central government in order to achieve development.

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    Dear Sir
    “A Resolution of the Northern Provincial Council in February this year had already characterised the consecutive killings of Tamil civilians as genocide. Needless to say an obligation arises on the Government of Sri Lanka to ensure that the perpetrators of the genocide are brought to trial”

    Elsewhere in CT contributors are debating that it’s dfiificult to prove an act of Genocide.

    Apparently your TNA colleague has said and I quote”… UNLESS you are able to prove the ingredients of those offences, it is NOT genocide. “

    The UN Definition of Genocide states and I quote
    “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: “

    Dear Sir, I am aware you have a great legal brain, but,

    How would you go about estabilishing the “intent” or the”ingridient” in the international court and UN

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      Rajash,

      “How would you go about estabilishing the “intent” or the”ingridient” in the international court and UN”

      Why don’t we ask Thanges to find out how interested the remaining IDPs and other poor in the Northern Province are in the question of genocide and war crimes. Are these questions among their priorities?

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        Did say it’s the priority of the IDPs and the poor in my posting?

        I am challenging him, as NPC passed the resolution of Genocide whereas Sumanthiran says there is no ingredient to prove it.

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          “I am challenging him, as NPC passed the resolution of Genocide whereas Sumanthiran says there is no ingredient to prove it. “

          http://www.ceylontoday.lk/89-85436-news-detail-sumanthiran-defends-npcs-genocide-resolution-says-war-victims-should-be-prepared-to-give-more-evidence.html

          “The Tamil National Alliance Parliamentarian M. A. Sumanthiran, defending the NPC’s genocide resolution as democratic and timely, emphasized on the need for the war victims to prepare themselves to gather more evidence in order to strengthen the OHCRC’s OISL report to be released in September this year. He also added that an internal investigation with the OHCR’s supervision, unlike the local investigations in the past, is essential to ensure a constructive UN investigation into the alleged war crimes in the country. Excerpts from the interview:

          Q

          : What is your view on the recent ‘genocide resolution’ passed by the Northern Provincial Council?

          A: The resolution is timely and the facts which have been listed out in it are nothing but true. It was a sheer democratic action and very well drafted, taking into consideration the grievances of the people directly affected by the war. Various comments could surface with regard to the resolution, but it was aimed at seeking justice for the people who have been affected by the ruthless war in the North.

          The Chief Minister of the Northern Province or the Northern Provincial Council (NPC) cannot be criticized for bringing about the genocide resolution, since the NPC represents the people who were very much affected by the war. So the NPC, which represents those people and being a democratic institution, has done its part in the right manner in bringing out the resolution. The Chief Minister has clearly pointed out the atrocities committed systematically towards the Tamils since the country gained independence. Therefore without addressing the genuine grievances of the people affected by the communal upheavals in the past, we cannot talk of reconciliation. Therefore, the genocide resolution was brought out to identify the perpetrators who had committed the war crimes and bring justice to the war victims. The resolution is not at all meant to hurt the feelings of those who strive for peace and reconciliation in the country.”

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          Rajash,

          “Did say it’s the priority of the IDPs and the poor in my posting?”

          Too much G&T again?

          Maybe I should try G&T also to understand what you write. Will Rockland gin do? Is the “T” needed available in Jaffna?

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    A political solution confined for Hindu and Christian Tamils in the North and East entails a political solution for the Sinhalese. Will the Tamil speaking people presently distributed in the South will be moved to North and East or will they continue to occupy our areas?

    Soma

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      soma,

      Why do you talk nonsense? Indian peoples exercise self-determination. The Scots and the Walsh enjoy self-determination. But peoples’ choose to live wherever they want and same goes for the Sinhala and Tamils! This kind of feeble arguments do not carry currency!

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        Burning Issue

        “soma, Why do you talk nonsense?”

        Because he is Soma-ass.

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        Burning Issue

        Read Wingeswaran. The reasons why Tamils need political autonomy. Are the Britisers accused of genocide of Scots and Welsh? Any argument concocted to justyfy this “North AND East for us only but the rest is for all of us” is nothing but a hypocritical, devilish scheme to subjugate the Sinhalese. Sinhalese must totally, categoically reject this ruse and the Tamil political class must be made to understand the type of autonomy they are asking for North and East automatically negates the right to live anywhere with equal rights. At the minimum they will not be entitled to vote and use Tamil language in dealing with State administration.

        After all why do you want to endanger the lives of their children by giving them the freedom to live among the genocidal Sinhala Buddhists?

        Soma.

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      soma,

      “Will the Tamil speaking people presently distributed in the South will be moved to North and East or will they continue to occupy our areas?”

      Fundamental rights in the constitution guarantee us the right to live where we want and freedom of movement.

      Don’t worry. The constitution can be amended.

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      Tamils had to settle in the South due to Sri Lanka’s unitary set up. Right from independence, the SL state excluded the North & East (Tamil areas) from investment/development. Other than a few state employment, the North & East had little prospect of economic life. Nothing is decentralized, for everything including employment you need to be in Colombo. Not only the state administration and the international embassies (visas), even the island’s sole international airport is in Colombo. If the Sinhalese governments cannot do it, give the Tamil speaking areas to the Tamils to manage their own affairs.

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        Mr Suresh

        I did a Google serch and found that land area of Tamil Nadu is exacly double the size of Sri Lanka and population three times. Access to international airports and foreign embassies are closer and more convenient than in Sri Lanka you reckon?

        Soma

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          Soma,

          This is basic general knowledge, you do not need google.:D

          Here we are talking about Sri Lanka and not India.

          Please re-read what Ravi has said above over and over till you get it in your pea brain. LOL!

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    Prof. Laksiri Fernando,

    Can we have your learned response? Are you in good health?

    Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

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    [Edited out] Wingeswaran will be dead and gone in a few years leaving the minds of innocent Tamils poisoned with a mixture of sorrow and hatred for centuries to come. His “hero” and “sole representative” once led the innocent Tamils to near extinction. These ‘wise’ men thought hanging cynide capsules around necks of little children snatched from wailing mothers and sending them to the battle front will deliver the Ealam little realising that the enemy is the fully equipped state backed by 70% of the population who were determined to shake off 30 years of misery. Having misarably failled he is now courting “international community” to terrorise the Sinhalese little realising again that this time around it will backfire on the 50+% Tamils living nestled among the majorrity Sinhalese with worse consequences.

    Soma

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      soma

      “Having misarably failled he is now courting “international community” to terrorise the Sinhalese little realising again that this time around it will backfire on the 50+% Tamils living nestled among the majorrity Sinhalese with worse consequences.”

      Wow! Is that a threat? The Tamil separatists would love every word that you uttered! This is music to their ears!

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        Burning Issue

        I am one Sinhalese who support separatism if the 50+% Tamil speakers presenly living in areas outside NE show any tendency to leave south and settle in the North. Why doesn’t TNA initiate a campaign encouraging this kind of shift?

        All the psychologists in the world will land here to study this strange desire to live under extreme discrimination and risk genocide.

        Soma

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          soma,

          “All the psychologists in the world will land here to study this strange desire to live under extreme discrimination and risk genocide.”

          Common sense explains why people fled during the conflict and will never move back.

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      “little realising again that this time around it will backfire on the 50+% Tamils living nestled among the majorrity Sinhalese with worse consequences”

      Ha, ha, ha… LOL!
      Are you talking about another July ’83?
      That is exactly what we are asking you, please, please do it again!

      You must be a damn fool to utter such music into our ears, little realizing how much the country and the 70% majority lost last time and how much, tens of thousands of Tamils gained due to that. If you know how they established ‘Kosovo’, ‘South Sudan’, ‘East Timor’ and ‘Montenegro’ in the recent past, you would not have uttered such stupid statements.

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    Watch out, SRI LANKA. His utterances are reminiscent of SJV Chalva !!

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    “All People Have The Right Of Self Determination”. I was thinking DEEP into this statement, years back and found that “RIGHT Of Self Determination” was not given to me from the time and day of my “Birth”. Did I have the “Right” to decide who my “Parents” should be; to what “Tribe” or “Community” and to what “Religion” belong to; in what “Country” to be born; what “Language” to speak; what “Culture” to follow and live? Also, do I have the “Right Of Self Determination” of my “Next Birth”,if I am to be born, and attach any importance to above relevant matters? But later on I realized one and only fact of being a “Human”, yet among other “Living” beings in this Planet called “Earth”. So I feel my only “Right Of Self Determination” is to LIVE IN PEACE AND HARMONY with all the LIVING.

    Mr> Wigneswaran: You could perhaps consider my concerns given above and write your next contribution giving me some guidance to find answers to the questions still persisting in me. Thank you.

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      What I understand is Mr. C.V. Wigneswaran also has the same concern as you. Because the Tamils were treated with violence from the time of independence by the successive Sinhala majoritarian governments and the new Government has a task to bring the culprits to books. The recent Human Rights issues Sri Lanka is faced with is due to the massacre of the Tamils. Please do some research and get the records straight. Mr. CVW is trying to help the Government in realizing the facts and to encourage to do its obligations to the International Community. Some of the negative responses in this forum are not aligned to the subject. Ignorance and negativity lets down the purpose in participating.

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        Mr Richard

        While 1958 and 1983 were violence unleased on innocent Tamils by the Sinhala mobs the subsequent 30 years was war waged by the Tamils on the state in retaliation. Trainig of fighting cadres were done in India, arms,funds, and propaganda by the Diaspora. In addition to targeted mass killing of Sinhala civilians which was the main modus operandi of their war and assination of politicians(including prime minister of India and president of Sri Lanka) 26,000 soldiers were killed by the Tamils. Scale of terror unleased by the Tamils was unprecedented in brutality. Muslims were ethnically cleansed, massacreed in cold blood while praying and intra Tamil violence was ferocious. Tamils held their own Tamils hostage. In the process Tamil fighters were killed in equal numbers while Tamils themselves faced untolld suffering, death and dispersion. Every of peaceful settlement was spurned. War ended with total anihilation of the leadership of their fighting formation and total surrender of rank and file. Post war the government created democratic political space space for all Tamils and allocated massive funds for infrastructure development. Now the Tamil politicians who provided the political leadership(while living in Colombo) for the war are demanding justice for prewar violence by Sinhalese on the Tamils.

        Mr Richard, can you imagine the situation the day after the international community delivering justice for one side of a long drawn-out brutal coflict? You call it the harbinger of reconciliation?

        Soma

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          somaass

          “While 1958 and 1983 were violence unleased on innocent Tamils by the Sinhala mobs the subsequent 30 years was war waged by the Tamils on the state in retaliation.”

          You conveniently forgotten 1977, 1980,1981 and various other riots against the innocent. What did Jaffna library deserved to be burnt down by the politicos and the armed forces?

          If Tamil reaction was reaction was their mind boggling violence what did the innocent Sinhalese do to deserve violence in 1971 and between 1987 and 1990, at a scale beyond our imagination? In 18,000 Sinhalese and between 1987 and 1990 130,000 innocent Sinhalese mainly the young and able bodied were killed. Why?

          The common factor is the state which never cared for the people. You should be up in arms against the state, its institutions and its rulers.

          Therefore you should be looking for allies in all communities in order to change, first their mindset, then to reconstitute the state and governance.

          Of course all by non violence methods, that you are aware of them as you have already copied and saved them somewhere in your storeroom.

          Go start reading and re-reading about those 198 non violence methods of protest.

          Until you realise that the core problem is not the violent Tamils nor the violent Sinhalese but the undemocratic state structure and those few who benefit from it, you will go nowhere.

          Say hello to Ravi Perera.

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      Douglas

      “I was thinking DEEP into this statement, years back and found that “RIGHT Of Self Determination” was not given to me from the time and day of my “Birth”.

      I suppose you were unaware of “RIGHT Of Self Determination” when you were born and didn’t demand it while you were growing up. Perhaps you are/were contended with what you were given by the state and its rulers as long as both didn’t infringe your immediate space. Little did you realise that this private space is shrinking, shrinking fast since the mid-sixties.

      “man is born free, but he is everywhere in chains,” Rousseau.

      Jean-Jacques Rousseau’s “Social Contract” should have alerted every citizen of this island as to how the rulers want to tie the people with more chains.

      Prof. Brownlie, defines self-determination as being “the right of cohesive national groups (‘peoples’) to choose for themselves a form of political organization and their relation to other groups”.

      International Court of Justice clarified in 1975:

      “principle of self-determination as a right of peoples”

      The right of self-determination “requires a free and genuine expression of the will of the peoples concerned”

      The court’s basic definition of this right as “the freely expressed will of peoples ‘ or “the free expression of the wishes of the people.

      I hope you too are willing to express your will as an individual not conditioned by free rice from the moon.

      Some useful terms:

      General will – The will of the sovereign that aims at the common good. Each individual has his own particular will that expresses what is best for him. The general will expresses what is best for the state as a whole.

      Will of all – The sum total of each individual’s particular will. In a healthy state, the will of all is the same thing as the general will, since each citizen wills the common good. However, in a state where people value their personal interests over the interests of the state, the will of all may differ significantly from the general will.

      Hope this clarifies your intellectual vacillation, for I can’t bear when people dither.

      Next birth is not known hence we will cross it when we come to it.

      “So I feel my only “Right Of Self Determination” is to LIVE IN PEACE AND HARMONY with all the LIVING.”

      Only if you let them exercise their particular will as well as their general will.

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    This Wignaswaran guy is a moron. He should read the United Nations Covenant on Civil and Political Rights again!
    The article 1 says ”All peoples have the right of self-determination. By virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development”

    What it imply is within the laws and rules of the country an INDIVIDUAL should have the right of self-determination without undue pressure on politics, pursuance of economic, social and cultural development.
    It does not, by any means says self determination to establish a separate country. If gone by Wigneswaran’s interpretation this world will have millions of countries by now!

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      “This Wignaswaran guy is a moron. He should read the United Nations Covenant on Civil and Political Rights again!”

      Ha, ha, ha …LOL!
      This is absolutely hilarious!

      This sounds like a donkey trying to teach a horse how to run. :D

      A vagabond trying to teach a high court judge how to understand law???
      LMAO!!!

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        Suresh
        This is how the gullible tamils are taken for a ride by their so called leaders.

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          Is it anywhere similar to MR looting the country’s wealth and taking you fellows for a jolly good ride for almost 10 years? LOL

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            Suresh
            That is fine with me because he eliminated tamil terrorism that killed more than 100,000 civilians for over 30 years.
            What service did wigneswaran do for tamils?

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              “”because he eliminated tamil terrorism “”

              Mara freed himself his cohorts and has enslaved the people.
              Aren’t you one of them moron?

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              Right form Independence the Tamil leaders were behaving arrogantly and spewing racist venom ending up in creating a LTTE monster. What did the Tamils gain? Nothing, absolutely nothing!

              Now, when the two matured Tamil politicians Sambandan and Sumandiran who have learnt enough lessons are trying to be moderate, Wigneswaran is trying to behave like those old Tamil politicians. Finally the losers will be none other than the Tamils.

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                “”Now, when the two matured Tamil politicians Sambandan and Sumandiran who have learnt enough lessons are trying to be moderate, Wigneswaran is trying to behave like those old Tamil politicians.””

                No wonder we all call you bigots/burvas!

                of the 3 one is clearly like sapwood

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    What do the SRI LANKANS feel?! Do they have a say in deciding on whether they like the country divided into one area for the Tamils, one for the Sinhalas, one for Muslims etc? What about the Malays, Burgers etc? Do we have separate areas for the various mixes of immigrants who have come to the U.S.A., Canada, Australia etc? Are there ethnically divided areas in other nations? This is the problem. We go on with this hacked, cursed debate and forget all other important issues.

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    Self-determination is not a de-stabilizing concept, Self-determination and democracy go hand in hand. If democracy means the rule of the people, by the people, for the people, then the principle of self-determination secures that no one people may rule another.

    Despite the fact that the principle and fundamental right of self-determination is firmly established under international law, consideration of the Tamil people’s right to self-determination and, importantly, the outright denial of this right for many decades are frequently omitted in discourse pertaining to the ethnic conflict in Sri Lanka.

    During the past several years, the Tamils’ right to self-determination has received recognition at sessions of the UN Commission on Human Rights in Geneva.

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      “Indigenous communities, people and nations, are those which, having a historical continuity with pre-invasion and pre-colonial societies, that developed their territories, consider themselves distinct from other sectors of the societies, now prevailing in those territories, or parts of them. They form at present a non-dominant sector of society and are determined to preserve, develop and transmit to future generations, their ancestral territories, and their ethnic identity, as their basis of their continued existence as peoples, in accordance with their own cultural patterns, social institutions and legal systems.” — United Nations, Document No. E/CN.4,Sub.2/1986/7 Add.4, Para 379.

      I hereby refer to the Declaration of principles, adopted at the Fourth General Assembly of the World Council of Indigenous Peoples, in Panama, September 1984, E/CN.4/Sub.2/AC.4/1985/WP.5.

      Principle 1. All indigenous peoples have the right of self-determination. Because of this right, they may freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and religious and cultural development.

      Principle 2. All states within which an indigenous peoples live shall recognize the population, territory and institutions of the indigenous people.

      Principle 3. The culture of the indigenous peoples are part of the cultural heritage of mankind.

      Principle 4. The tradition and customs of indigenous people must be respected by the States, and recognized as fundamental source of law.

      I hope and trust that, the above internationally accepted definition regarding the indigenous nature of the Tamil ethnic group is enough to ascertain the Traditional Tamil Homeland demand. Trust that our Sinhala brethren accept our distinct position and take appropriate steps to keep the Tamils and Sinhalese united, within a united country by providing the legitimate share of the Tamils, within a mutually acceptable framework and keep the country intact and integrated forever.

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      Suresh, you and so many speak so glibly about “sessions of U.N Commissions” recognitions of the rights of The TAMILS. All these foreigners do not know even the geography of Sri Lanka leave alone the history and the political background. Let us say that history and politics is unimportant. The question is, the amount of land and sea-front that the Tamil POLITICIANS from SJVC’s times have been asking from the rest of the country! Don’t speak of the United Nations!! They HAVE to justify their employment and as far as the Canadians, Brits, Germans, Norwegians etc are concerned they need the Tamil VOTE !! Its just a matter of…… “the something”, stupid. Its all money, money, money.

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        kumaran

        “The question is, the amount of land and sea-front that the Tamil POLITICIANS from SJVC’s times have been asking from the rest of the country!”

        How much land and sea front are you willing to give? That could be a starting point for negotiations.

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          Hi, Native. Good to hear from you again, sir.

          I am not a politician, a Sinhala, Tamil or Muslim. So, this has to be discussed with the POLITICIANS. But as a Sri Lankan, I want to be free to walk from Point Pedro to Point Dondra along the West Coast and walk back to Pint Pedro along the East Coast. Its a long walk, but well worth it. And I want to walk as a free and dignified Sri Lankan.

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            kumaran

            “I am not a politician, a Sinhala, Tamil or Muslim. So, this has to be discussed with the POLITICIANS.”

            It does not matter what the politicians are doing. When you raise this very stupid question of % of land and sea front then the obvious question is what % are you willing to settle for.

            Stop repeating this stupid question as TNA has seen the wisdom of not repeating the same mistake they made several years ago. Hindians have put a full stop to this question a long time ago.

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    Native Vedda: Thank you. I am not concerned what all those you quoted have said and professed. Those were the convictions they had and let them be as those are. So goes with Mr. Wigneswaran. So no vacillations. I go by what I am convinced of and continue to live with such thoughts, until some change takes place within me. Till then I will live in Peace and Unison with the rest of the “Living Beings” and the “environment”. That way of life, I believe is good for the STATE too. So please don’t dither.

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    The more Wigneswaran writes and speaks on this matter of Tamil separatism, the more he demonstrates that he is an agent of Sinhalese extremists.

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      Candidly

      “The more Wigneswaran writes and speaks on this matter of Tamil separatism, the more he demonstrates that he is an agent of Sinhalese extremists.”

      Could you refer me to his article where he wrote on Tamil Separatism.

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    Somaa,

    What are the definitions of Sri Lankan or Sinhalese Sovereignty by the people like Anagarika Dharma palace, DJ, Rohan ?

    Why did Anagarika Dharmapala chose to die in North India ? Why did DJ ran away from Sri Lanka for some period in the past ? Why did he go to India but not to one of the following countries : Cuba,US, China, Russia or a European Union country or Australia or New Zealand ?
    Based on my experience since 1948
    the axiom of Sri Lankan Sovereignty has
    Sovereignty of Sri Lanka =_ Sovereignty of Sinhalese only.

    There was no axiom Sovereignty of SL =_ Sovereignty of Sinhalese+Tamils+Muslims+Burghers+Malays+Veddas+Nagas+Yakasas +others.

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    When Samantha Power met the Wigneswaran at his office during her recent visit, he had complained that this government was as unresponsive as the previous. When she pointed out the areas where there was progress he had been some what dumbfounded ( http://dbsjeyaraj.com/dbsj/archives/44401#more-44401).

    Wigneswaran should define in specific, clear and unambiguous terms the type of ‘Self Determination’ he desires for the Tamils in the north. He is being caught with earn his pants down on many issues and it is time to call his bluff as Samantha Power did!

    He should also explain in a public statement why the required statutes have not been passed and why the allocated funds spent to atleasr achieve some aspects of the self determination the 13th amendment permits and what the present government would accommodate.

    Dr. Rajasingham Narendran

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      [Edited out]

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      Dr.Rajasingham Narendrann

      “Wigneswaran should define in specific, clear and unambiguous terms the type of ‘Self Determination’ he desires for the Tamils in the north.”

      If I could explain ‘Self Determination’ in general term, it is the wishes of the people to “ease themselves” whenever they get the urge to, not when they are dictated by the overwhelming power of the state.

      It may sound crude however it also might help clarify the issues.

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        NV,

        Self determination is however not the right for some individuals within a group to dictate to every one else where and how they should ease themselves. It has to be a collective expression of every indidual to be what he/she wants to be or wants to do within civilized norms and just laws. It is a basic human right.

        The term Self determination means many things to many people and needs to be clearly defined aand expained in the context of circumstances. The TNA has accepted extensive devolution of political and administrative power to the provinces as a tool to eoress self determination. In general terms, the present government too wants the same. However, do they agree on the extent and details. The devil will be in the details. Will all the communities in Sri Lanka have the same right, wherever they live? What does Wigneswaran mean when he uses the term self determination? Is his definition different from what the TNA desires? What do the people want? Do the people know? Has there been an extensive and informed internal debate extending to the grass roots? How much self determination are we ready to grant at the village level?

        Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

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          Dr.Rajasingham Narendran ,

          ” Self determination is however not the right for some individuals within a group to dictate to every one else where and how they should ease themselves.”

          Are you telling the people what they should be eating and what they shouldn’t because of your veterinary experience.??

          Remember the greatest happiness is in the movement of the bowels??

          you know how a cat does the job not the Hindians?

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      Dr RN,

      I assume that you refer to the article by D.B.S. Jeyaraj the Daily Mirror published today. I don’t manage to open the link you posted but here is my link.

      http://www.dailymirror.lk/99245/tna-leader-sampanthan-ready-to-step-down-if-party-and-people-want-wigneswaran

      “When Ms. Power asked him about the situation after the new govt was set up, Wigneswaran kept parroting that nothing had changed and that there was no progress. The chief minister was taken aback when the US envoy disagreed strongly. Samantha Power then outlined eleven specific areas of concern to the Sri Lankan Tamils where reasonable progress had been made after the Sirisena-Wickremesinghe Govt was set up. Wigneswaran had no choice other than to admit sheepishly that progress had indeed been made. The chief minister then tried to save face by saying not enough progress had been made or speed shown. Samantha Power then pointed out that saying “not enough progress” had been made was different to saying “no progress”had been made. However she agreed that the pace was slow yet understandable within the current political context.”

      It would be interesting to know the eleven areas where Wigneswaran and Power agree reasonable progress has been achieved.

      I had not seen this before.

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        Inspector Dirty Hari,
        Both links have the same content and written by the same author, D.B.S.Jeyaraj. The eleven points raised by Samantha Power have not been listed or detailed. DBS should do so so, soon.

        Dr.RN

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          What Samantha Powers asking is not what Tamils want, what they want.

          Tamils are just pawns.

          Even with Dr, infront of the name Tamils can not understand that.

          Samantha powers want use Tamils to Get a camp in Sri lanka. It is most probably in Trincomalee, or Jaffna or Mulathivu. the result will be Tamil women have white Baby. So much for Tamil.

          that is why west also wants to destroy the culture, because it is they win ultimately.

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            Jim softy,

            Can you please tell us from which TN tribal area (Dalit) your ancestors came to SL and got converted?

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          Inspector Dirty Hari,

          The Indian High Commissioner who was visiting Jaffna has advised Wigneswaran to be a good boy and behave. The link below gives more details:

          http://dbsjeyaraj.com/dbsj/archives/44420#more-44420

          He has also agreed to do so.

          It appears Wigneswaran swans sekf determination for himself to become a one man band, going by what I see as his inability to get along with people! How can such a person build a consensus and harness people to take the northern province forward?

          Dr.RN

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            Dr RN,

            “The Indian High Commissioner who was visiting Jaffna has advised Wigneswaran to be a good boy and behave. The link below gives more details”

            I think that this is what I found in the Sunday Times today. I was going to post it but you and DBS were faster.

            Our chief minister has during the last weeks received advice from USA and India. First USA and now India have expressed their concern about his lack of co-operation with the central government. Other countries may follow.

            At the same time we should not forget that Wigneswaran is a politician and knows that many support him in the Northern Province and diaspora. We should also not forget that Wigneswaran in my opinion is only a front controlled by people who are much more experienced in politics than he is.

            It would be interesting to know how many voters dislike what Wigneswaran is doing. He might have very little support outside of the Northern Province.

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          Dr RN,

          “DBS should do so so, soon.”

          I also hope so. He is kind enough to provide his email address for contacts. DBS and Summer apparently can be reached using Twitter.

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    C.V Wigneswaran

    All Peoples Have The Right Of Self-Determination::

    *** I agree with everything you have written but sadly in this World Rights and Self Determination are Selective with the motto what is in it for me and the World Powers play a Lip Service.

    Let me pick up on a few things.

    1) During the early part of this year the United Nations General Assembly had adopted 9th of December for the first time as the International Day of Commemoration and Dignity of the Victims of the Crime of Genocide and of the Prevention of this Crime. Remembering all those victims of Genocide I proceed to prepare this Message.

    *** It is no good having Laws if they cant be enfored.

    2) The curtailment of the awesome power of the State and the prevention of its abuse against individuals and/or Peoples have been the object of the journey towards Human Rights. The holocaust of the Jewish people was the immediate trigger for the United Nations to embark in the year 1948 on the venture of detailing the human rights of individuals, shifting the focus of International Law from the rights of States to the rights of individuals and peoples.

    *** We have been travelling for the last 67 years and tgere is no Planet on sight where we can set up. Despite the UN Genicide has taken place throughout the World. Even the Nation of people who suffered at the hands of Hitler are guilty of the Crime against the Palestinians.

    3) Every right in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights has now been spelt out in detail in subsequent Conventions and Declarations on the subject. Machinery to ensure that the rights are observed have been devised through the Human Rights’ Council and the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights.

    *** You are right but the illiteracy rate is very high 99.9% to be exact. We need to devise a different mechanism of learning.

    4) The principles enunciated in the UN documents on Human Rights have special significance for Sri Lanka. They have great significance for the plight that Tamils find themselves in.
    In every sense, the rights of Tamils as individuals and as a People have been violated over the course of time by the Governments of Sri Lanka.

    *** But that is subject to biiding. This time at the UN it went to the State of Sinhala Lanka who put in the highest BID. May be next time we might be able to out bid them but I am hopeful with the happenings at the Homefront.

    5) The United Nations Covenant on Civil and Political Rights promises all Peoples the right of self determination. Article 1 of the Covenant reads: ” All peoples have the right of self-determination. By virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development”.

    *** The Covenant you are talking about is not a ” RESTRICTIVE COVENANT”. It is merely an “EASEMENT” and as a SC Judge you know what that means.

    6) This legitimate right of self-determination has been denied to the Tamils; instead, their right to equality, a central human right, has been violated throughout the period of Sri Lanka’s existence. The right to life of individual Tamils has been violated through extra-judicial killings in which the State and its agents actively participated. There has been no accountability for any of the killings that have taken place.

    *** This is what happens if you are under the control of ” PIMPS” the State of THUGS & CRIMINALS.

    7) The right to liberty, again a non-defeasible right stated in the Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, continues to be violated with the incarceration of many hundreds of young Tamils detained without trial or deprived of proper hearings. Their continued imprisonment is a continuing violation of this important right by the Government of Sri Lanka. It is incumbent on the part of the Government of Sri Lanka to release these prisoners without any delay and demonstrate its commitment to human rights. I am expecting His Excellency the President conscious of the need to release our Tamil political prisoners, to soon do so by an open Amnesty.

    *** Like I said it is an “EASEMENT” and people trample on you and there is nothing you can do as it is an “OVERRIDING” interest and doesnt appear on the Title. You only find out by making extensive inquiries ( as revealed by UN).

    8) A Resolution of the Northern Provincial Council in February this year had already characterised the consecutive killings of Tamil civilians as genocide.

    *** I doubt Sumanthiran had any Input. SAD.

    9) Needless to say an obligation arises on the Government of Sri Lanka to ensure that the perpetrators of the genocide are brought to trial. But recent statements by Government leaders are confusing and contradictory but consistent in one respect in that they play down the extent of the system crimes so clearly outlined by the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights in its Report on Sri Lanka this year.

    *** GOSL under MS & RW are ESTOPPED from going back on their words. Dont forget MS was part of the EVIL Empire and so was HAKEEM.

    10) The Pinheiro Principles are a set of principles that are to be followed so that people displaced through war or other like incidents are restored to the lands they occupied prior to the event. Today the lands of our People are in the occupation of the Army. Such occupation is in violation of the International Human Rights’ law. Consistency with such laws requires that the occupation by the Army is ended and the lands restored to its original owners.

    *** Dont worry we are inching towards at Snails pace but we will get to the PROMISED Land. You and I might not get there but we have seen the Mountain top (In the Words of UN) and we as a People will get to the PROMISED Land.

    11) Successive Governments of Sri Lanka have indulged in Human Rights’ violations continually. Even after the 8th of January this year there had been incidents of White Van abductions. Consistency with Human Rights requires that in the light of various violations of human rights by successive governments of Sri Lanka, a constitutional solution consistent with the right to self determination of the Tamil people is brought about so as to find a lasting solution to the continuous violations of Tamil rights. It is then that Human Rights’ Day would truly be applicable to this Country.

    *** What do you expect in a Country of Animals who kill for a living.

    MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR to and your family ( I know you are a widower) of Tamils and Neighbours who are surrounded by Tamils to the North and sea to the South.

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      kali,

      “It is no good having Laws if they cant be enfored.”

      This is possibly the first time I agree with you.

      I had to read several times the news about how the private bus lobby has made a complaint to the HRC because the police is finally enforcing the traffic lane regulations in Colombo. The bus lobby even threatens the police with legal action.

      I find it difficult to understand that a bus lobby goes to the HRC and threatens police with legal action when the police is doing what they are paid for.

      I am sure nobody would understand this abroad.

      Unfortunately my connection is too slow to post the link.

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    When the right to self determination of the minority in a country clashes with the right to self determination of the majority what happens? Especially when that minority have come from a country 12 miles away where their language, culture and values and enshrined. Instead of waging a war with the majority to carve out a separate state so that they can have the right to self determination would it not have been simpler for them to just move 12 miles north to their home land?

    We had three different colonists culminating with the worst who were the British, have persecuted the Sinhalese for almost 500 years. They changed forever the ethnic balance in the country by importing South Indian Tamils as indentured labor. Most of the present day Sri Lankan Tamils migrated from Tamil Nadu during the 19th Century. It was the British who imported indentured labor (virtual slaves) from Tamil Nadu to work the tea and coffee plantations. Since many of them were from the Dalit or Untouchables caste they were grateful to the British for bringing them across the sea waters of the Palk Straits. The majority of the people in the country are Sinhalese who have a unique spoken and written language, which is available only in Sri Lanka. The Tamils comprise only about 9% of the 21 million people in the country. They speak Tamil, and are aligned to the culture of Tamil Nadu in India. Tamil Nadu is their real homeland. There are also Muslims, Christians and a few other minority groups. The Sinhalese comprise about 75% of the population.
    Sinhalese speak and write a unique language, which is there only in Sri Lanka and nowhere else. The type of food they eat and the customs are unique to the Sinhala culture. Furthermore it was the Sinhalese who preserved Theravada Buddhism which is a great Philosophy now benefitting the whole world. Many as you may know are turning to Buddhism in the West. Western Psychotherapy borrows from Theravada Buddhism. The Sinhalese have no other place to go other than Sri Lanka. Tamil People have Tamil Nadu in India.

    Therefore if we are to speak in terms of nationhood, there is one nation, which is Sinhala Nation in Sri Lanka, which has existed for 2600 years, and the other one is in Tamil Nadu, the Tamil Nation. It is imperative that the Tamils of Sri Lanka integrate into the local Lankan culture, which accommodates them so well, instead of asking for a separate state. Otherwise as Prime Minister Modi has stated they are welcome to return to India. This fact has to be made very clear to the whole world. We should not be embarrassed to speak out.

    Please see attached link below.[Edited out]

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      Harvey Perera

      Even though you sound a Sri Lankan, when it comes to the ethnic groups in the island, you seem to be totally ignorant and fully confused (looks like you know nothing about SL history). First of all you should know that there are 2 different Tamil groups in Sri Lanka. The native indigenous Sri Lankan Tamils (also known as Eela Tamils) that is living in the Island for thousands of years (much before Dutugemunu) who has settled in the North and East of the country. The other is the upcountry estate (Indian) Tamils brought by the British in the 19th century (from12 miles north) for Tea, coffee and rubber plantation, who are still having a separate identity known as up-country Indian Tamils.

      Due to your ignorance, confusion and lack of knowledge about the ethnic groups in Sri Lanka, your entire post is all about the upcountry estate (Indian) Tamils brought by the British in the 19th century. These people whose leader was Thondaman (Senior & Junior) for a long time has NEVER ever asked for any separate state, self-determination or federalism. It is the native indigenous Sri Lankan Tamils known as Eela Tamils of North & East Sri Lanka who is asking for self-determination.

      The native indigenous Sri Lankan Tamils had and still have a clearly defined (Tamil speaking) territory, their historic habitat (formally Jaffna kingdom) in the North & East of Sri Lanka as their traditional homeland (Tamil Eelam) where they lived for several centuries as a separate nation with their own language, religion and culture.

      Even Dr. Colvin R de Silva recognized the two nations in the country (Sinhalese & Tamils) when he said, “one language two nations, two languages one nation”.

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        Suresh,

        “The native indigenous Sri Lankan Tamils had and still have a clearly defined (Tamil speaking) territory, their historic habitat (formally Jaffna kingdom) in the North & East of Sri Lanka”

        Jaffna Kingdom never included Eastern Province.

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          ravi perera

          Its you again.

          Where is somass?

          “Jaffna Kingdom never included Eastern Province.”

          Was there a separate kingdom in Eastern province?

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          ravi perera

          “Jaffna Kingdom never included Eastern Province.”

          That is not true, even the East was under the Jaffna kingdom before it fell into the hands of the Portuguese. The arrival of the Portuguese in the 16th century and the fall of Jaffna Kingdom led to turbulence in the Northern and Eastern districts of Ceylon. The only kingdom that existed in Sri Lanka (both Kotte and Jaffna kingdoms fell into the hands of the Portuguese) was the Kandyan kingdom and many of the old Tamil Hindu principalities sought protection from the Kandyan kings (who were South Indians from either Kalinga or Nayakkar dynasty). The king of Kandy invited the Dutch to fight the Portuguese. The Dutch captured some parts of the Eastern and Northern Province (including Trincomalee and Batticaloa) from the Portuguese and handed it over to the king of Kandy. (That was the period when Robert Knox landed in Trincomalee and was taken as a prisoner to Kandy). But the Kandyan rule did not deny the Tamil presence in those areas. Some parts of the Eastern and Northern Province coming under the Kandyan Kingdom made no difference to the Tamil position in regard to the inhabitancy. The Tamils would have had and yet have no objection what so ever to the benevolent and accommodating rule of the kandyan kings whether they were from the Kalinga or Nayakkar dynasty, and see no inconsistency in the Tamil claim to those areas even under the Kandyan rule.

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            Suresh,

            “That is not true, even the East was under the Jaffna kingdom before it fell into the hands of the Portuguese”

            There are Tamils who believe that King Dutugemunu was a Tamil. There are Tamils who believe they have the technical know how and the wealth the create a nuclear bomb. When you believe in such garbage what can not you think.

            What ever you say, you buggers do not have the numbers nor the historical facts to back your bogus claim.

            At least prove you can fix some Sinhala leaders for war crimes.
            In spite of overwhelming evidence, you will fuck up that too.

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              ravi Perera

              “There are Tamils who believe that King Dutugemunu was a Tamil.”

              I do not know whether King Dutugemunu was a Tamil but what I do know is, there is NO evidence what so ever to prove that King Dutugemunu was a Sinhalese. None of the Pali chronicles say King Dutugemunu was a Sinhalese, not even any stone/cave inscriptions say he was a Sinhala king. The Mahavamsa also says, before going to the war with Elara, he went to worship the Katharagama (Hindu) temple and not any Buddhist temple.

              About nuclear bomb and the Tamils, I have no idea.

              “Whatever you say, you buggers do not have the numbers nor the historical facts to back your bogus claim.”

              Regarding numbers, Siva has given a very good input. Please read it again and again until you get it. About historical facts, you do not need to go very far, read your own Mahavamsa carefully, it has all the clues necessary.

              You buggers talking about historic facts, more than 90’000 rare and unique ola/palmaryh leaves manuscripts related to History, Science, Poems and lyrics, Novels, Theology and Astrology were kept preserved in the Jaffna Library? Some of them that were translated by Arumuga Navalar, Thamotharam Pillai and Saminathaiyar were also waiting for a comprehensive translation.

              All gone in smoke, completely destroyed by our great Sinhala Nation who are still trying to deliberately and systematically erase all the evidences of the past Tamil presence in the island.

              “fix some Sinhala leaders for war crimes”
              It’s already going on, UN, US, UK and others will take care. No need to worry about that.

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                Cool story, bro :D Don’t forget to chnage the email when you come back as “Siva” to copy and paste more punnakku :D

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                  Poor thing can`t handle facts, everything sounds cool to his eyes. LOL!

                  Poor Siva Sankaran Sarma is getting it in style from We Thamizh. No wonder he is howling hysterically :D

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                Suresh,
                “All gone in smoke, completely destroyed by our great Sinhala Nation who are still trying to deliberately and systematically erase all the evidences of the past Tamil presence in the island. “
                Also Siva Sankaran Sarma is laughing at you “protected and available to the public in places like the Dutch National Archive”

                I have been to TANAP (have very close friend dutch prof history of art& ) and like DJ, Valli class trained historian hard cut nationalist/pirate prof Nira Wickremasinghe did it. she has authored couple of books with radhika comarswamy.She carries french PP chaperoned Robert McNamara (former world bank) heavy heavy bla bla- just a journo openly says don’t believe other historians in all they say. The Native dutch double doctorate who researched the Madras Presidency smelt it because of her tall stories.Anyway
                this goes to the archives: http://www.tanap.net/sitemap.cfm (its a bit complex in indexing)
                I am neither tamil/sinhalese and the island does not matter to me as you. I left colombo 1964 no relatives nada.Unfortunately for her there are original documents in europe but not in the netherlands. Go fix it you have your crowd there.good luck and be at peace

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                  Eric
                  Thanks!

                  I did not realize that Prof. Nira Wickramasinghe is in the Netherlands. She was a professor in the Department of History at the University of Colombo. A trained historian, she was always suspicious about other historians.

                  She once said, Sri Lanka is one of the few countries in which mainstream newspapers carried pieces on history by those without any credentials or formal training in the disciplines of history and historiography. This, she said, would never happen in India for instance, where any incursion into history in the quality press would have to be backed up with credentials in order to secure publication.

                  Would like to read her latest publications.

                  Btw, original documents in Europe but not in the Netherlands???

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                    Suresh,
                    She says don’t listen to Prof. Silva type- she is like Ayatollah only I saw god (arrogance because of Lankan political connections which she exhibits). She stays there because of quality of life. It’s a school trying to imitate SOAS London.She worked/research on SL matters at TANAP then moved into Leiden University because she had French nationality.
                    History must go with something physical to touch like art works (art work,archaeology, architecture),or it becomes speculative journal stuff. Public space cannot divulge much: It was divided into 3 sectors. 1 Dutch woman did Cochin, Nira did the island, both had only 5% invoices (Portuguese Goa (till 1970) and locals destroyed it like library) the only PhD qualified Dutch guy that handled Madras presidency had 99 % invoices- he commented about the other side in his paper. This link is about 3 years newer and Devasiri is on to it.-
                    http://www.tanap.net/content/universities/current_research/current_research_list.cfm
                    http://www.tanap.net/content/archives/archives.cfm?ArticleID=202
                    You could use name search criteria- there are 4 docs but what I saw 3 yrs ago should be there or check from web master. http://www.tanap.net/search/search.cfm
                    anything missing find;
                    Leuven reference library Europe’s first catholic university.In Flemish.
                    She is astounding saying 2500 yrs like Dr Nomiss- how did the Sinhala man climb/fly over mountain range that Mughals with horses could not??So religious that hanuman carried the sinhala buddhist?? Then it must be special ultra Brahma DNA.
                    good luck.

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                      Eric,

                      “She says don’t listen to Prof. Silva type”

                      What Nira was referring to was NOT Prof. Silva (former Math/Physics guy at Kelanaya University) who was also writing rubbish in newspapers in the name of history. Obviously Prof. Silva was not a social scientist (Historian) but a natural scientist and Nira would not have even bothered to read what Prof. Nalin wrote. She was also suspicious about Prof. K M de Silva but What I felt was, she was referring mainly to Mr D. G. B (Bandu) de Silva, the retired diplomat who used to boast about himself being a trained historian, another arrogant type.
                      Anyways, I fully agree with what Nira said, these Silva types were mostly charlatans.

                      I know, most of the Dutch period records kept in the VOC archives in Colombo were severely damaged and hardly fit for consultation. Microfilming started only in 2002, it was too late. However, being at Leiden University, she must be having free and easy access to the National Archives of the Netherlands.

                      If you see the history, even with or without something physical, most of the conclusions are made on assumptions and hypothesis.
                      Devasiri is not a biased person, I hope he will do a genuine research.

                      Anyways, thanks!

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              Both Duttugemunu and king Devanambiaytissa( Thevanai Nambiaya Theesan)Were Nagas. The Nagas were Dravidians who spoke Tamil as their mother tongue. Some say they are Tamil. However it is definite that they are Dravidians and they spoke Tamil. This is the reason Devanambiaytissa’s father was MuttaSivan A pure Tamil name meaning the great/venerated Siva. King Duttugemunu’s father was Kakai Vanna Theesan another pure Tamil name meaning the king the colour of the crow. His mother came from a famous Naga Buddhist family in Kelaniya. All ancient Naga Hindu and Buddhist inscriptions are in Tamil. Like the 2500 year old Naga inscriptions found in a well in a Hindu temple in Batticaloa and many Naga Buddhist inscriptions in the south. The Sri Lankan Tamils and the Nayars of Kerala are the descendants of these Tamil Nagas. That is why they like worshipping the snake. EG the NagaPoosani Amman temple in Nainativu. All traditional Nairy homes in Kerala had a place where snakes could reside and be worshipped. The worshipping of the Cobras and the Cobra being sacred in Hinduism is what we inherited from the ancient Nagas. Ancient Naga places. Nagatheevu(Jaffna) Nagapattinam Nagar Kovil in Tamil Nadu. Still many Sri Lankan Tamils have names like Nagarajah, Naganathan. The fight between Dutugemunu and Elara was not a fight between Sinhalese and Tamils as there were no such people called Sinhalese or a Sinhalese language at that time but a fight for domination and ascendancy between the newly converted Buddhists largely living in the south and established Tamil Hindu elite that was ruling the then central parts of the island

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      Harvey Perera

      The Sinhalese became a majority only after the European Colonials came to Sri Lanka. In the 16th century, the Portuguese and in the 18th century, the Dutch who occupied the island brought in tens of thousands of low caste (Dalit) people from South India (mainly from Cochin/Kochi in the Malabar coast/presently Kerala and from Tutucorin/Thootukudy in the Coromandel Coast/presently Tamil Nadu) and settled them in the Southern parts of the island from Puttalama up to Matara as menial laborers (for growing/peeling cinnamon – today known as Salagama caste, for fishing/pearl diving – today known as Karawa caste, coconut planting/plucking and toddy tapping – today known as Durawa caste, and for many other jobs). Within a few centuries, the Sinhala population in the South (low country) increased exponentially when these people assimilated with the local Sinhala population (Sinhalized) by adopting the Sinhala language/culture and the Buddhist/Christian religion and getting converted to Sinhala Buddhists and Sinhala Catholics.
      Professor K.M. de Silva in his book `History of Sri Lanka`, refers to the migration of the Karawe, Salagama, and Durawe castes from Southern India to Sri Lanka between the 14th and 17th centuries AD.

      These Sinhalised Tamils of the South (low country Sinhalese) whose ancestors were brought to Sri Lanka by the Portuguese/Dutch from South India as coolies (for growing/peeling cinnamon, fishing/pearl diving, coconut planting/plucking and toddy tapping) adopted Portuguese surnames such as Perera, De Silva, Fernando, and so on to hide their original South Indian identity.
      Dr. Paul E. Pieris has published extracts from the Portuguese tombo which gives the original names of the present day Sinhalese with Portuguese surnames before their conversion to Christianity and Buddhism. Dr. Pieris states: “The names deserve special attention, the majority appear to have been converted and adopted European Surnames names. For example, Fernando being the most popular surname, but the native name is also given among them being the following: Vira Cutti, Parama Cutti, Nila Cutti, Perumal, Nahepulle, Avepulle, etc. These point to recent South Indian origin.

      It is well known that the descendants of these South Indian Tamils from down South Sri Lanka (low country Sinhalese) like the Karawe, Salagama, and Durawe are the most anti-Tamil racists. Today their descendants are not only claiming the ancient Sri Lankan civilization as their own ‘Sinhala’ heritage but have also become the patriots and champions of Sinhala-Buddhist chauvinism. They have become distinct, ‘North Indian Sinhabahu’s Lion-blooded Sinhala Aryans’, the Nationalist Patriots and guardians of the country (Sri Lanka) and its Religion (Buddhism) and call themselves the blood relatives of Dutugemunu. If the forefathers of these so called “Sinhaputhra/Boomiputhra of Heladiva” had remained as Tamils, (without assimilating with the Sinhalese) today the Tamils would have been the majority in Sri Lanka or if they had assimilated with the Veddas instead of Sinhalese, today the Veddas would have been considerably a large population in Sri Lanka.

      Today, the genealogy researchers at the Human Genetics unit of the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Colombo will tell us that the DNA of most of the Sinhalese is matching with the South Indians (Tamils and Malabars).

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        Lies or fairy tale or both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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          Sam

          I know it is difficult for you people to stomach these facts. However, by denying the facts as lies or fairy tale, it is not going to change the truth/facts.

          Let me give you some evidence to prove it. Please go to a library if you cannot afford to buy and read the book `A History of Sri Lanka` by Professor K.M. de Silva, page 121. He has explained how the migration of the Karawe, Salagama, and Durawe castes from South India to Sri Lanka took place between the 14th and 17th centuries AD. If you remove these South Indians (Karawe, Salagama, and Durawe castes) from the Sinhala population, it will reduce tremendously.

          Also, please read the publications of Dr. Paul E. Pieris. He has explained how you people got Portuguese surnames and what your original names were.

          Also read ‘The World’s Oldest Trade, Dutch Slavery and Slave Trade in the Indian Ocean in the Seventeenth Century’ by Markus Vink . You will come to know that tens of thousands of South Indian slaves were settled in the South from Colombo to Galle during the Dutch period for cinnamon, coconut and other plantations. Today they have become Sinhala-Buddhists.

          Also, read the latest genetic studies on the Sri Lankan population, you will see that the Sinhalese and the South Indians have common genetic codes, very specially the DNA of low country Sinhalese is matching with the Tamil Nadu Tamils.

          After checking all the above, please come here with your opinion weather its lies/fairy tale or the truth/facts. See you soon!

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          All these Pereras, Sam Perera, Ravi Perera, Harvey Perera belong to the Sinhalese coastal caste Durave (South Indian Toddy Tappers). They adopted the Portuguese surname Perera in order to hide their original south Indian names.

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        Cool story, bro :D Unfortunately for We Thamizh tale tellers the real historical evidence is recorded, protected and available to the public in places like the Dutch National Archive – but we’ll just go with these Tamilnut fairy tales as they’re way more entertaining than actual history :D

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          An undesirable fool who cannot see or comprehend anything beyond his nose and utters nonsense through his hat is talking about real/fake history? LOL!

          What do you know about Dutch National Archive and what bloody actual history for an Army deserter? You should run and hide because Gota cannot help you anymore. I know you have a fetish for We Thamizh but leave all your obsessions and run. The present Yahapalanaya fellows may hunt for Army deserters, save your neck. :D

          Run Blocker run!!! Hook off before getting caught. :D

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            Oh you poor thing, howling and hollering like a mad dog after getting caught in public with your amude around your ankles again and again :D Cry baby cry :D

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              Army Deserter Blocker still crying?

              ROFLMAO!

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          Do not use my name is vain I am the real Siva Sankaran Sarma

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            Cool story, bro :D

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      Good post Harvey. VOC maps preserved in the Dutch National Archive show that the so called We Thamizh homeland was in fact mostly Sinhalam even during the time of early Dutch occupation, proving that the demographic changes took place some time after, when We Thamizh were imported en masse as slave labour.

      Now let’s wait for the resident copy paste schizo Suresh to go bonkers jumping up and down screaming about how the Dutch national archive contains fake maps created by the Sinhalam 100s of years ago :D

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        Ha, ha, ha…LOL!

        Siva Sankaran Sarma aka Dawood Blocker who deserted the SL Army and ran away to a European country during the peak of the war and later got pardoned for licking Gota’s boots comes here to cry because the We Thamizh has buggered him left, right and center until he ran in pain leaving his amude.

        Cry Blocker cry! Run Army deserter run!

        LMAO!

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          Oh look, there it is, right on cue :D Now copy and paste some more fairy tales as “Siva” and tell us again about how the Dutch National Archive contains fake maps, ROFL :D

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            Now copy and paste some more FAKE maps and web-sites and then call it ‘Dutch National Archive’. :D

            What do you, an Army deserter know about Dutch National Archive? Go and continue to lick Gota’s boots, he may still be able to save you. LOL!

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              This Army deserter Siva Sankaran Sarma and his `knowledge` on Dutch National Archive. LOL. The joke of the century: D

              This CT resident clown is absolutely hilarious, he keeps supplying non-stop comedy. LMAO.

              Blocker still thinks Gota will come to his rescue when he gets caught for deserting the army. LOL

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    Tamils during their entire history acted foolish, simply because of their genetics.

    Now, they try toc ome with the help of another sinking boat.

    Some how we make it sink with the Tamils.

    No one believes what I said.

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      Jim Softy,

      You do not need any education and research capability to understand the behaviors and cultural differences of two different races (Sinhalese & Tamils) in Sri Lanka. Just by living beside both of them for a certain amount of period (few years) and some intelligence/common sense is more than enough.

      For example, it did not take much time for the Colonial rulers to identify the Sinhalese as foolish and lazy people. The Portuguese said, ‘Sinhalaya Modaya kavum kanna yodaya’ meaning the Sinhalese fools are only good for eating kavum and what the British said about the lion flag, ‘Modayage ratae murugayage kodiya’ meaning a beast flag in the country of fools.

      They did not say the same to Tamils or Muslims because the Tamils were clever, ready to learn, industrious, honest and hardworking (the Tamil work ethics – work is worship). The Tamil speaking Muslims were also honest and very good at business. On the other hand, the Sinhala race was very foolish, lazy, violent, racist, hateful, jealous and mean spirited. This is the reason why, when it came to white color jobs in the Ceylon Civil Service the colonials gave preference to Ceylon Tamils of North and East. The Tamils were holding top positions in the government service whereas the Sinhalese were working as peons and drivers.

      Like what Soulbury says, the English were jealous of the Scots, the lazy Sinhalese were jealous of the hardworking Tamils and Muslims. In 1948, the British handed over the entire country to the Sinhalese with the second highest GNP per capita in Asia and where are we today?

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        Cool story, bro – but one wonders how We Thamizh keep getting buggered by the Sinhalam time and time again given our superior We Thamizh IQ (which “Ravi” so ably displays with his brilliant copying and pasting skills :D)

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          “displays with his brilliant copying and pasting skills”

          Not as good as yours, you copy and paste FAKE maps and FAKE web-sites blindly without even knowing what is in it. :D

          Btw, one wonders how why you keep getting buggered by the We Thamizh time and time again…LOL!

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            LOL, the poor thing is still screeching about how the Dutch National Archive contains fake maps. The saddest part is not even We Thamizh are paying any attention to him, so he has to come up with a bunch of other fake names and do a bit of role playing :D

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              Blocker

              ROFLMAO!

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              In order to haunt you, I will continue to come as Suresh and expose you to the public. LOL!

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                Oh you poor thing, had to invent multiple identities and start role playing when it dawned that no We Thamizh was coming to rescue you from this very public buggering eh :D Don’t worry, you’re in good company with numerous other We Thamizh who got busted doing exactly the same thing when they got trapped with no way out. ROFL cry baby cry :D

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                  Keep clear folks, `Siva Sankaran Sarma aka Blocker` is having another of his wet dreams. He is howling and hollering like a mad dog with its rotting unmentionables caught in a hydraulic press again! He has gone bonkers:-D

                  We can always rely on our resident Clown for some daily entertainment with his non-stop comedy. LMAO!

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                    Quick, someone get the hose, the confused mad dog “Suresh” is trying to latch on to my leg again :D The poor thing has gone absolutely bonkers after being buggered :D

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                      Ha, ha, ha…LOL!

                      Is this the kind of thing that gives this creature Siva Sankaran Sarma aka Blocker stiffies these days? LOL how very sad.

                      Is that why he is barking like a rabid animal? LMAO

                      Poor thing can`t handle facts, everything sounds cool to his eyes. LOL!

                      Does anyone expect anything more from Blocker? Lying is the default state of this creature.

                      Poor Siva Sankaran Sarma is getting it in style from We Thamizh. No wonder he is howling hysterically :D

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                      Poor thing is babbling incoherently – must have run out of things to copy and paste so had to try and string together something on its own, and the results aren’t ptetty :D

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                      Poor thing is still howling in agony :D
                      It’s hilarious when it tries to string something together on its own – I’m looking forward to more gems like “sounds cool to his eyes” :D For a creature like “Suresh” afflicted with anatomical oddities like a pea brain in its posterior that probably makes sense :D

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    Ravi,

    “On the other hand, the Sinhala race was very foolish, lazy, violent, racist, hateful, jealous and mean spirited”

    Not only that the Sinhala race was also dark,ugly, stingy, gordy (hadi looks)and utterly selfish.

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      ravi Perera

      Thanks for your input.

      I know that most of them are dark and ugly because even the Singhala legendary hero Duttu Gemunu is not a light skinned ‘Aryan’. His father King Kavantissa who ruled the Kingdom of Ruhuna in the southern part of Sri Lanka was well known as Kaaka Vanna Tissa which means he got a skin as black as a crow. Kaaka = Crow, Vanna= Color. Many other Sinhalese kings were also known as ‘Maha Kalu Sinhalaya’. However, after the Europeans came, some of the Sinhalese became light skinned.

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        Ravi,

        “However, after the Europeans came, some of the Sinhalese became light skinned”

        I am sure you must be typical good looking Tamil

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          ravi Perera

          Thanks once again.

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          ravi perera

          “I am sure you must be typical good looking Tamil”

          Where and when did you meet a good looking Tamil?

          If Tamil men are good looking why does the Tamil cinema import actors from Kerala, Telungu Desam, Karnadaka, Andhra …… ?

          Be forthright, are you defending your Kalu brethren?

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            If Tamils were so good looking why do Tamils import actors from outside. Kamala Hassan Jai Shankar Gemini Ganehsan even Sivaji Arvinda Samy Madhavan and many others are all Tamil men they are good looking. Some of the most beautiful females who had acted in Both Tamil and Hindi movies are Tamils. Vyjanthimala, Sri Devi, Hemamalini, Meenakshi Seshadri, Vidhya Balan, Trisha, Rekha, Waheeda Rehaman are all Tamils.
            After Hindi it is the Tamil cinema that is the second largest and the second most important in the country. Therefor just like the Hindi cinema Tamil cinema also attracts beauty/talent from all over India and even sometimes from outside India. As they see Tamil cinema as far better than their own regional language cinemas and a stepping stone to even the more famous and larger Hindi cinema. Famous Bollywoond actresses started their movie careers in the Tamil cinema and them jumped to Hindi. Recent Aishwariya Rai( she still acts in Tamil) Kajool Etc.
            Owing to this the Tamil cinema just like the Hindi cinema or for that matter Hollywood has the luxury of getting talent from all over India not just Tamils. Hindi does the same. Many of the actors acting in the Hindi cinema are not from the Hindi speaking areas but from other parts of India. Does this mean Hindi speaking people or not good looking or the people of USA are not good looking because Hollywood attracts worldwide talent? The answer is no.
            Compared to many other ethnic groups Tamil females are generally more conservative and are reluctant to take an acting career. So the void is filled by females from other states. However like I stated some of the best beauties in the Indian cinema both in Hindi and Tamil were Tamils.

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              Paul,

              Any known Tamil beauties in Sri Lanka ?

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                ravi perera Sinhala speaking Demela

                “Any known Tamil beauties in Sri Lanka ?”

                Of course there a few. How about your grandma, great grandmas, mother, sisters, aunts, ………..?

                Aren’t they Tamil beauties?

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              Cool story, bro :D

              And here we have yet another We Thamizh suffering from some kind of identity crisis. After his epic fail of a story about “knowing” the “real” Siva Sankaran Sarma he’s now morphed into actually being the “real” Siva Sankaran Sarma, comedy :D Maybe the deranged creature is just trying to imitate its betters :D You see “Suresh”, I told you and your multiple handles weren’t on your own :D

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                [Edited out] I have been noticing with consternation for some time that you have stolen my name and identity from the now defunct topix Sri Lankan Forum and have started post anti Tamil poison at various forums. Including the London Guardian Australian Guardian etc and have been having a field day. I now want to put a stop to this

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                  Cool story, bro :D
                  Try some gingelly based remedies for that constipation you mentioned :D

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              Paul

              If Tamil Cinema is such a melting pot why does Seeman want to change the name of the actors union from South Indian Film Artists Association to Tamil Nadu Film Artists Association?

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      ravi perera

      Its you again.

      Where is somass

      “Not only that the Sinhala race was also dark,ugly, stingy, gordy (hadi looks)and utterly selfish.”

      You are a wonder boy. At last, you have now discovered you are not an Aryan at all. This is because you share the same gene with your Tamilnadu brethren.

      The Sinhalese with all those features you mentioned have good chances of playing badies in Tamil, Telengu, Kerala, ………. films.

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        NV,

        I am being sarcastic here. Ravi knows it. He is pretending not to understand

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          ravi perera Sinhala speaking Demela

          “I am being sarcastic here. Ravi knows it. He is pretending not to understand”

          Please enlighten us, as to whether Sinhalese are of Aryan race or Dravidian genetic stock.

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            NV,

            [Edited out]

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              ravi perera Sinhala speaking Demela

              “[Edited out]”

              Thanks for keeping your typing brief.

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                Native
                Did you hear the death of Dr A Vellupillai?

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    Ken Robert

    “Did you hear the death of Dr A Vellupillai?”

    Yes.

    His passing away is a great loss not only to this island but for those who truly interested in exploring the past through literature and epigraphy.

    His PhD thesis is not available on websites:

    Here is a very useful website which could immensely enlighten the user:

    Google: Ethos, e-theses online services

    You will have to register it free, some papers can be downloaded free of charge and the rest are charged at £53.00

    Please spend some time exploring it.

    I found it very useful.

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      Native
      Many Thanks
      As usual I will look and register at some point.
      Ken

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        Ken Robert

        “Many Thanks”

        I will pass this on to my friend the old codger.

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          Wow 2 young boys running in shorts! No winter??

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    Dear Suresh,

    Why are you wasting your time with this joker with a fake name? No one on CT takes him very seriously. I have read your comments and replies to others, I like them. Weather you copy & paste or paste & copy or do whatever, who cares as long as the message is put through. Plagiarism is not an offence in blogs/forums. Just because someone gets a pain in the ass when you copy & paste, why bother? My suggestion to you is to completely ignore this stupid Siva Sankaran Sarma or whatever and concentrate on some valuable stuff. By ignoring him, you will save your valuable time and cyber space as well. Please think about it.

    Cheers!
    K Srinivasan

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      You poor thing, trying rub gingelly oil on your own behind I see since We Thamizh are staying well clear :D Whatever floats your boat, “Suresh” :D

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      Krishnamurti,

      Thanks!

      You are absolutely correct. No one on CT takes this joker with a fake name very seriously?

      As you said, I will completely ignore this stupid Siva Sankaran Sarma or whatever and concentrate on some valuable stuff.

      Thanks once again for your valuable advice.

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        LOL, comedy – the poor thing got owned so badly that again it’s been reduced to carrying on a conversation with itself :D The butthurt is strong with this one :D

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        He got haunted so much that whenever he sees a comment with a Tamil name he thinks it is an avatar of me. Anyone and everyone who responds to him or talk about him has become my multiple identity. LOL!

        I just cannot stop laughing, he must be having nightmares thinking of Suresh and his multiple Ghosts, ha, ha, ha…absolutely hilarious!

        Anyhow, as Srinivasan said, I am not going to respond to him anymore, completely ignore this stupid joker with a fake name.

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          The poor thing got busted again – his pea brain must be fizzling out trying to figure out how his amudey gets whipped away no matter which name he starts posting under, LOL :D

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      I am the real Siva Sankaran. This Sudra has stolen my name and identity from the now defunct Topix forum Sri Lanka and started to post his crap and anti Tamil venom at various forums news papers and sites. I have seen his posts at various British Australian and god knows how many other sites. He can use his own crap identity, or create one to post his Tamil hating vomit but has deliberately taken my name and identity to ruin my name. I have a very strong feeling as to who this pathetic creature is. He was doing this at the topix form Sri Lanka too. Stealing various Tamil bloggers id and then posting crap and ruined it. This man is a pathological Tamil hater. I also know from which western country he resides. He is very good at changing his IP address when he posts.

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        Cool story, bro :D
        I’ll look for it under the cyber spy thrillers section :D

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    This chap Siva Sankaran Sarma is an employee at the Colombo Telegraph office in UK.

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      I am the real Siva Sankaran and I do not live in London but in Australia

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        This chap lives in the UK and not in Australia. He is suffering from Tamil Phobia and there is a reason for it.

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        Cool story, bro :D
        Full of intrigue, like “Pauls” suddenly going from knowing the “real” me to actually being the “real” me :D

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    Dr.Murali Valluranathan accuses the NPC of being bribed by those who have contaminated the Chunnakam well waters, subsequent to the report released last week by a special committee appointed by it.

    http://dbsjeyaraj.com/dbsj/archives/44457

    If this accusation is true or even partially so, is the NPC jeopardizing people’s health? Do we need self determination to institutionalize corruption and fool the people?

    The CM has also recently questioned the empowering of villages on a apolitical basis, which he calls ‘ Grama Rajya’. What is wrong with it? Is’nt it about making self determination work at the grass roots? Instead of working with and pressurizing the government to strengthen the concept and make it work with both central government and provincial government support, why is the CM opposing the very concept he is advocating?

    Dr.RN

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      ‘ The Hindu’ has give a more detailed report on the ‘ Grama Rajya’ concept being considered by the government and Ranil Wickremasinghe’s comments on the 13th amendment and new constitution.

      http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-international/colombo-seeking-to-centralise-powers-says-wigneswaran/article7993624.ece

      Dr.RN

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      Dr RN,

      “The CM has also recently questioned the empowering of villages on a apolitical basis, which he calls ‘ Grama Rajya’. What is wrong with it?”

      I am sure that our politicians dislike loosing the little power they have at the moment.

      Thank you for the links.

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      Dr RN,

      “Dr.Murali Valluranathan accuses the NPC of being bribed by those who have contaminated the Chunnakam well waters, subsequent to the report released last week by a special committee appointed by it. [Edited out] If this accusation is true or even partially so, is the NPC jeopardizing people’s health? Do we need self determination to institutionalize corruption and fool the people?”

      I hope that Dr Murali writes an article or open letter like before and posts it on CT. This matter deserves attention also outside of Jaffna.

      I have not been able to understand the attitude of leading NPC politicians in the Chunnakam water issue. Even with the obvious priorities they have they should not neglect possible health risks for the population.

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    According to the Sunday Observer even special UN peace envoy Yasushi Akashi has expressed worries about the way Wigneswaran is behaving. India, USA and the UN. I remember also a letter from an UN agency describing what I consider an attempt of nepotism and other problems with the CM.

    Who is the next one to criticize Wigneswaran?

    “N.Vivekanandan, Kilinochchi-based senior journalist:

    The Tamils of the North and East voted for a regime change which they desperately wanted. They did not vote for the incumbent government for any other major reasons. They wanted to get rid of the former autocratic and tyrannical rule.
    But contrary to the party position, Chief Minister Wigneswaran is adopting a confrontational attitude towards the incumbent government. He should adopt an attitude of consensus with the government in the best interests of the Tamil people.
    I would like to quote what special UN peace envoy Yasushi Akashi told me at an interview I had with him:
    “The US bombed Hiroshima and Nakasaki during the final stages of World War II and the impacts of the colossal destructions, both biological and physical, are continuing to this day.
    But we never took recourse to politics of vengeance but, instead, we maintained good relations and rapport with the US for the sake our people and our country’s growth. We benefited through that approach and everyone knows it. That has to be the attitude if you are taking into account the welfare of your people and the progress of your region.”
    Chief Minister Wigneswaran is rigidly adopting a policy of confrontation with the Central Government since his election as the Chief Minister.
    There are many things that we can get from the government for the socio-economic betterment of our people. We should derive benefit from the Colombo administration to help develop the region and to assist our people to recommence their normal lives.
    These are former war-ravaged areas and there are so many needs to be met. Wigneswaran has even openly spoken against the Prime Minister’s ‘Grama Rajaya’ program to develop all villages under programs initiated by the Central Government. If he thinks it will taken away the NPC’s hold on the people or will take away some of his powers, he should take up the matter with the appropriate authorities and sort things out through serious discussions instead of giving publicity to it. These are issues that can be sorted easily.”

    http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2015/12/20/pol06.asp

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