
Prof S. Ratnajeevan H. Hoole
The Bishop has passed on to meet his maker. There will be a requiem mass at the Cathedral at 2.30 pm Monday 08.09.2025. May he Rest in Peace.
From Prince of Wales College, he was a highly educated priest whose Oxford training gave him the ability to read the Gospel in Greek at services. In 1970 he was allegedly encouraging the JVP. The IGP warned Bishop Harold de Soysa of Kenneth’s imminent arrest unless he was removed. So he came to Colombo as Diocesan Secretary. His vast contacts there laid the ground for his election as Bishop.
At the requiem mass all kinds of good words will be said of him, with nary a word of his weaknesses that perhaps are unnecessary as, as it is written (Romans 3:23), “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God;” and (Isaiah 64.6) “We are all infected and impure with sin. When we display our righteous deeds, they are nothing but filthy rags.”

Bishop Kenneth Fernando
Such positive eulogies might be comforting for the family left behind but that is contrary to Christian doctrine.
The theme of this article is that the Church has strayed from our stated doctrinal positions and conducts our funerals exactly as non-Christians do.
Likewise, my subtheme is that while the Bible extols martyrdom, the Church exemplifies bowing to clerical authority – a theocracy ignoring Jesus’ words: “And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free” (John 8.32). Ephesians 6.10-12 commands us to warfare for the truth against evil: “Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.”
Yet, in the Church no one will stand up against ecclesiastical misrule.
In the sad saga of Rev. Daniel Jeyaruban who has been kept suspended for over a year without pay and banned from stepping into St. John’s College, the entire CMS and Standing Committee Including the two Bishops were seen to have lost their belt of truth. Where is their breastplate of righteousness? Where the truth on their feet, their shield of faith against flaming arrows that come when they stand up against the attacks on those who speak up.
The Church has lost its doctrinal commitment.
Let me end with an episode showing how castrated of its righteousness and truth the Church is at its highest level. I was a diocesan representative in the late 1990s. Bishop Fernando was the Chairman, Diocesan Council.
I had heard that at Pilimatalawa where most Protestant Clergy are trained, there had been unbearable sexual harassment of Methodist female ordinands. Bishop Fernando Chaired the Pilimatalawa Board.
Bishop Fernando, then chairing the Diocesan Council, was seated on the podium with Archdeacons and Diocesan Secretary Thanja Pieris (as I recall) on either side. I stood up and stated that I had heard that male ordinands harass female ordinands at Pilimatalawa making sexual advances, was highly concerned of our future priests’ behaviour, and asked if this was true.
Kenneth leaned forward looking both ways at those on the podium and answered “I have not heard of it. Have you?” No one replied. I believed him in trust.
I was elected to the Standing Committee (SC) that year by Council and would soon be elected to the Constitutional Council drafting the Church’s Constitution, Canons and Rules under Kenneth. Shortly thereafter at the monthly SC meeting, Nihal Bhareti, Radio Ceylon’s Director of English Services, who was also on the SC claimed that I had insulted the Church and should apologise. Kenneth, Bhareti’s Moratuwa Comrade, agreed and asked me for proof.
I asked for time. But the person who told me, another Anglican, denied it saying “You must be thinking of someone else.” He was afraid of ecclesiastical authority.
Month after month, I was reminded and I said I needed more time. When Bhareti insisted on punishment, Kenneth said if somebody would formally propose a punishment he would act. No one did, not even Bhareti.
The traditional excommunication is rarely used in liberal Churches and is reserved for Heresy (public teaching of beliefs that contradict the central doctrines of the Church); apostasy (the repeated and public renunciation of the faith, the Church, or its leaders); and schism and divisiveness.
Bhareti could have tried apostasy but that had the serious risk of going to an FR Petition where I would turn it on the apostate Church.
Moreover, lesser punishments like suspension of membership in Church bodies and parishes could be done but even these are rarely done in a liberal Church – not even for murder. Rev. Fr. Matthew Peiris, convicted of murdering his wife, was not punished by Kenneth, and celebrated the mass for felons in Prison. Nor was punished a senior priest who had an adulterous relationship locking himself up with the wife of a straying gynaecologist in his National Christian Council Office, supposedly counselling her! When Kenneth was forced to act by the husband’s staging a satyagraha in front of NCC, instead of punishing the priest, he rewarded him by sending him off on a scholarship with leave to New Zealand to read for a doctorate.
Doctrine had been thrown out. No wonder the Church of England said punishments may be issued for moral sins but not for doctrinal sins. The Anglican Communion has no foundation for its morality to rest on.
Although excommunication is rarely done by the Anglican Church, the power to excommunicate is still retained by Bishops. The old service of excommunication is seen in the brilliant enactment by Richard Burton in the movie Thomas Becket. The story is about Saint Thomas Becket, Archbishop of Canterbury and Primate of All England, canonized by the Roman Catholic Church. The relevant extract from the movie can be seen here.
The clip is about the excommunication of Lord Gilbert for the sin of murdering one of Becket’s priests and the associated sacrilege. I had seen the film at the Liberty and dreaded the words of excommunication:
“We do here and now separate him from the precious body and blood of Christ and from the society of Christians. We exclude him forever from Holy Mother Church in heaven or on earth. We declare him excommunicate and anathema. We cast him into the outer darkness. We judge him damned with the Devil and his fallen Angels and his reprobates to eternal fire and lasting pain.”
Fearful and desperate, I asked everyone I could including other Church-heads who share in the Management of Pilimatalawa. They all pleaded ignorance.
Our last SC meeting was around July. I was getting month by month extensions to furnish proof or show cause why I should not be punished. Then like a prayer answered, Rev. Duleep Fernando who was then Head of the Methodist Church asked me to deliver an invited lecture at their Pastors’ Conference in Warakapola. There, after dinner, remembering I had asked him for information, he pointed to a table where some Methodist priests were seated and told me, “Those people were students there at the time you mention. If anyone, they will know.”
At the next SC meeting I gave the names of Anglican clergy-candidates whom Kenneth himself had sacked and the Methodist ladies who had left because of the harassment. There was silence as Kenneth moved to the next item on the agenda.
Thanja Pieris dutifully failed to minute this item fully!
It was dark as the meeting finished. The Rev. Godwin Weerasoriya, Archdeacon, Colombo, ran out and met me in the parking lot. He told me, “They all knew you were telling the truth. I am sorry, but how could I speak up in front of the Bishop?”
This admission betrayed the theocracy the Church is.
Lessons
However, after this description we would gain nothing unless we can draw some beneficial lessons – that the Anglican Church has lost balance and has no connection to its founding principles, and that there is no Love for those being trampled down (like Daniel and me) by those in authority. It has no doctrine except to protect and shore-up theocracy. We need forceful leadership from the current Bishop, Dushantha Rodrigo, to show leadership and come out of this morass.
knesiah / September 5, 2025
It’s the nature of organizations. When humans seek to be valued within a hierarchy they naturally fall into a pattern of dominant and submissive behaviors like a magnetic coil in a brushed motor.
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SJ / September 5, 2025
Yes.
Makes one wonder why people seek positions in organizations knowing that very well.
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davidthegood / September 10, 2025
SJ, positions in organisations boost the failing mental condition regarding power they crave to feel important.
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Jaffna Man / September 5, 2025
I warned Bishop Rodrigo and the CMS that the stress of the social stigma of a year’s suspension now into year two and being banned from stepping into school, will have its toll on his pregnant wife.
My worst fears have come true. She was admitted to hospital with complications and been advised to be in hospital under observation.
Has Mrs. Thuseetharan, the Chundikuli Principal, no care for her Headgirl? And the other women Principals on the CMS?
Are they on the CMS Board to eat vadai with the Bishop and bask in that glory?
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davidthegood / September 5, 2025
Jaffna Man, have you eaten Vadai with the Bishop?
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SJ / September 5, 2025
dtg
What are you suggesting?
Not in good taste, although not unusual for you.
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davidthegood / September 10, 2025
SJ, It was the Jaffna man who spoke about eating vadai with the Bishop.
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Jaffna Man / September 6, 2025
I called Fr. Daniel.
Things got worse as her Mrs. Daniel’s womb fluids were dangerously low and dropping.
So a C-Section was performed. The baby-girl was under 3 lbs but mother and daughter are doing fine.
Bishop Rodrigo and Archdeacon Selvan paid a brief visit on Friday night and said a prayer.
I thank them for that. There is some decency left in the Church.
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Jaffna Man / September 6, 2025
I called Fr. Daniel. Saturday morning there.
Things got worse as Mrs. Daniel’s womb fluids were dangerously low and dropping.
So a C-Section was performed. The baby-girl was under 3 lbs but mother and daughter are doing fine.
Bishop Rodrigo and Archdeacon Selvan paid a brief visit on Friday night and said a prayer.
I thank them for that. There is some decency left in the Church.
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davidthegood / September 5, 2025
Prof. S.J.H.Hoole, Sin is not defined by the person who does it, but by the word of God. A Bishop or any other church leader who wishes to keep his seat, is very cautious about disciplining others, whether clergy or laity. Besides, people like Bishop Kenneth had their own petty private theologies developed over their lifetime. When he was the vicar at St. Luke’s church, Borella, the ship Doulos Hope came inti Colombo harbor and brought literature to the church hall, and he wanted them to leave the premises. The foreigners gave the books and other literature free to church members. Later they visited the ship in harbor and were blessed by buying excellent religious literature.
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SJ / September 5, 2025
Gifts with suspicious motives have to be treated with utmost caution.
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LankaScot / September 6, 2025
Hello SJ,
Two sayings come to mind –
“Beware of Greeks bearing Gifts” from the Trojan War
“Will no one rid me of this Turbulent Priest” Henry II (but he never actually said those words).
Bring back Torquemada he will sort out the heretics. Anglican, Roman Catholic, what’s the difference, they both have Bishops.
Best regards
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SJ / September 6, 2025
You are a little too hard.
There are all kind of Bishops.
Compare our Cardinal with the late Lakshman W.
I have seen over half a dozen Popes in my time. No two were alike. Some of them loved humanity.
The Church will exist for a long time to come while its relevance will decline.
We have to live with it, and it is not as bad as US imperialism
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davidthegood / September 6, 2025
SJ, Doulos is world famous for it’s rich generosity, all acting sacrificially too. You know nothing about them and so better keep your trap shut, or your suspicious mind will play havoc.
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Naman / September 5, 2025
Being an Hindu, I don’t know who is right or wrong. I feel that those who are in charge of an organisation are usually DO NOT WANT to rock the boat. They would like to COVER UP/put it under the carpet rather than DO THE RIGHT THINGS. Sexual Harassments of those are subordinates happens in all walks of lives. The victims continue to suffer in silence. The whistle blower in the case of how Namal Rajapaksa was provided with all the comforts and facility to do the finals of Attorney at Law exam WAS PENALISED by the authorities. This case should be taken up. I a not sure how his father passed this exam?
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davidthegood / September 5, 2025
Naman, knowing the behavior of the family, you don’t need to guess. The lady in politics too sat the same exam. and passed too. Common pass.
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SJ / September 5, 2025
That is OT jurisprudence I guess.
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SJ / September 5, 2025
“I a not sure how his father passed this exam?”
Do you have any basis to raise this question?
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Mallaiyuran / September 5, 2025
It is the same with your temptation to suppress the question. Alms!
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SJ / September 5, 2025
Who is trying to suppress my question?
Go easy on the illegal stuff.
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old codger / September 6, 2025
“This admission betrayed the theocracy the Church is.”
Which Church is not claimed to be a Theocracy? But in practice they are autocracies.
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Sumihiro / September 6, 2025
Some people have the misfortune of crossing paths with self-declared moral broomsticks in their life.
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SebastianSR / September 6, 2025
Professor Hoole is an engineer. Engineers and scientists are expected to be trained in the scientific method, develop rationality and capacity to doubt. The child of a pastor may have been brain-washed at a very early age, in shutting him off from obvious truth about Christianity, and other such faiths. They are nothing but elaborate businesses for exploiting the gullible, and eliminating the not so gullible by hool or crook, patterned on the structure of the Roman empire, as is the Mafia. It is also a corporation with directors and CEOs, franchises and a product to sell. It has to dominate, spy on people by confession etc, and also keep its secrets hidden. Why should priests be moral? To believe that leading a moral life would “get you to heaven” is the Pelagian Heresy. It is Hoole who should be burnt at the stake for his heresy. What of the Bible? Prof. Hoole quotes extensively from it but selectively. Professor does not like the modern marketable God as loving and compassionate. He prefers the Bible version where You FEAR GOD and remember the book of Job. Every man is a sinner and women are worse!
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davidthegood / September 6, 2025
SebastianSR, How did women become worse sinners? Don’t cough up your petty all-knowing nonsense.
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SebastianSR / September 7, 2025
David the Good asks “How did women become worse sinners?”. Women are not worse sinners than men, and in fact can be more caring due to their biology. But women are regarded as worse sinners in the Bible, and in all Abrahamic and Hindu religions. The belief that they are sinful comes from Genesis 3 and St Paul’s writings in 1 Timothy, regarding Eve’s role in the Fall and the vulnerability of women to deception. The Apostle Paul, in 1 Timothy 2:11-14, argues against women exercising authority over men, citing that Adam was created first and that Eve was deceived, not Adam. The Anglican priest cited by Prof. Hoole becomes the temptress. Even Jesus refused to meet with the woman of Canan and compared her to a dog, as she was a gentile. Thoughout history, until the rise of modern Feminism, women were mistreated by the Church. Even today the Catholic church will not allow women as priests. Until about 1900, medieval Christianity was a bit like Islam that you see in Iran or under the Taliban. Today the Church tries out a more cunning marketable approach by “re-interpreting” (whitewashing) the Bible.
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LankaScot / September 6, 2025
Hello SebastianSR,
“Pelagianism is a heresy that teaches humans are born without original sin and are capable of achieving perfection and righteousness through their own free will and effort, without the necessity of divine grace”.
Strip it of the Supernatural Mumbo Jumbo and you have the beginnings of Humanitarian Teachings. Pelagius was a British Theologian born around 354 CE. He was possibly Welsh (or of Irish descent) and studied in Scotland and Ireland before moving to Rome. After many run-ins with the Church he was exiled from Palestine (just for DTG Palestine named as such back in the 400s CE) back to Britain (probably Wales) where he died. Professor Alexander Souter from Aberdeen was one of the first to translate Pelagius’ writings on Paul’s Epistles using Original Documents. Some works attributed to Jerome were actually written by Pelagius.
Best regards
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SebastianSR / September 7, 2025
Reply to Lankascot. Plegianism also comes in many flavours. The doctrine that even a new-born baby is a sinner, and that one person’s sins can be atoned by the sacrifice of another is such a serious, irresponsible doctrine that even 4th century theologians rebeled against such rank injustice. Instead, they and the Cathars argued that you go to heaven if you lead a moral life. NO, said the church. God, like the capricous Ceaser, can pardon anyone irrespective of what they did. A terrible sinner can go to heaven by “God’s grace”, while a saint will go to hell without God’s grace (To win God’s grace, you need to increase the revenue of the Church; Prof. Hoole has not understood this). Unfotunately, with the urging of St. Augustine, thousands of Cathars and Pelagians were massacred by the Papal soldiers.
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ramona therese fernando / September 6, 2025
That is why the Catholic church has the strict and ancient tradition of celebrate priests. The vicar of Christ’s church can then focus 100% on the parishioners without the enumbrances of a family and the financial trappings that go with it. Especially in a city like Colombo and in other rich parishes, the wife and children will have to live up to the society they reside in (even if on the more frugal side…..Colombo lifestyles being a 1000% more expensive than a place like Jaffna, even with the donations given). Indeed, it seems important that an Anglican priest marries a woman with wealth to sustain the family, and that itself is a betrayal of the vows of poverty and humility. The whole structure then becomes one of pretention, syophancy and social climbing. – Catholic celergy on the other hand have a far greater and natural non-bias and aversion towards wealth, class, caste, and societal expectations. True there have been instances of the vows of celibacy being broken, and also pedophilia, but the church has corrective procedures for this, and the priest is usually removed from his post. – The Catholic church chooses its priests very carefully, and according to how well they can lay down more corporeal needs for a higher connection with the divine, reaching higher states of spirtual connection.
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LankaScot / September 7, 2025
Hello Ramona,
I would suggest you look at the record of Complicity and Cover-up by the Catholic Church in Ireland, Scotland and Australia for starters. From my own City there was an Investigation into abuse at Nazareth House. One of my sister’s classmates suffered abuse for years. Read this and think again – https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-48458480
The Catholic Church knew about this for years and did nothing so don’t try to tell me about “reaching higher states of spirtual [sic] connection”.
Best regards
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ramona therese fernando / September 7, 2025
LS,……Yes, I agree these abuses were terrible. In the dearth and absence of state care facilities, well-meaning religious people were forced to do the impossible i.e. looking after masses of unwanted children with little monetary assistance, lack of helping hands, and a depressing hopelessness in spite of religious fervor. These people were the only ones to go out with open hearts and caring hands to give assistance to the needy when others looked away. These children were still far better than state-care facilities, if any, of the time. Most of these children in the end were looked after adequately, and managed to lead comparatively decent lives in the future. The abuses of a few are generally highlighted because priests and nuns are supposed to show perfection even in the face of impossibility, giving a negative picture to the whole religious institution. You must remember that these countries had been struggling under the dictatorship of Great Britain for a long time. Nowadays, with greater social and safety nets created from taxation by greater democratic socialist governments (Great Britain being the first to restructure their social systems after the great wars), all facilities can be looked after, with the greatest success in the Catholic missions. Nowadays, any abuse by priests and nuns are taken care of swiftly and efficiently.
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LankaScot / September 7, 2025
Hello Ramona,
You are totally wrong – “In the dearth and absence of state care facilities, well-meaning religious people were forced to do the impossible i.e. looking after masses of unwanted children with little monetary assistance, lack of helping hands, and a depressing hopelessness in spite of religious fervor”. Where did you get that idea from? I know the evil things that were done by Nuns and Priests on those Children. There was a culture of Impunity and Silence in those Catholic Institutions.
There was plenty of State Care in Scotland and England back then; one of my Cousins was fostered for a year or so after his Father was killed in a Car Crash and his Mother was rendered incapable for some time. So I know about care back then.
The Catholic Church is a tiny minority in Aberdeen and many of the Nazareth House inmates were the result of illegitimate pregnancies. My sister’s Classmate was forced out of bed at 4 am to bottle feed the Babies and then given no chance to clean the vomit from her School Uniform before traveling to School. I won’t start on the stupid Catholic proscription of Contraception.
Best regards
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ramona therese fernando / September 7, 2025
LS…..obviously there was not enough state care at the time, or the church wouldn’t have had to handle so much of it.
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LankaScot / September 8, 2025
Hello Ramona,
You still don’t get it do you. The Catholic Church in Aberdeen is a very small part of the population. The Catholic Church (Nazareth House) chooses to care for the Illegitimate Children of young Catholic Girls by itself. They are not handed over by the State or any other Organisation. I knew my sister’s Classmate and talked to her quite often. She was a couple of years younger than me and very articulate. She had complained many times at School about her treatment and was always fobbed off, by either disbelief or platitudes that it couldn’t be that bad and if it didn’t improve they would make inquiries. Nothing happened.
It is a stain on the Catholic Churches Reputation that will not be erased by your apologetics.
Best regards
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
LS,…….your city needs get the state and police involved if the church doesn’t handle these situations of abuse. Catholic church trying to get Catholic girls away from pregnancy places a burden on the faith. They can only encourage men and women to get married early like the Islamists do (not to older men with many wives of course)….but then there are the economic situations. They should examine further the issues on birth control and abortion (the Islamists allow abortion up to 3 months I think, but that’s a huge no-no in the Catholic church). It is unfair of the church to lay it all on women and insist that all women be like the Virgin Mary and then terrorize them if they can’t comply. In the end, hardworking and gentle priests and nuns are the easiest to target when things go wrong with people’s lives. Many people who go to state-sponsored programs usually end up on drugs, sex, and other crimes. The Church-sponsored ones tend to go through life with greater morality.
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davidthegood / September 8, 2025
rtf, you talk as if Catholics are the only living beings who sin, doing abortions. Birth control is a safety issue. Not unfair for them to be like virgin Mary.
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
dtg……that’s when the control and abuse come in.
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
Dtg,…..It’s like the asexuals are trying to control the sexuals and vice versa. That’s when the abuse begins on both sides. Modern science and psychology has shown that sexuality falls along a spectrum although most are on the binary section. As humans, we need to have have a more evolved and healthier look on these things. Catholic Church is gradually getting there, especially with our new Pope Leo who says that all are loved by God.
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old codger / September 8, 2025
DTG,
“Not unfair for them to be like virgin Mary.”
So how did you arrive in this world? Don’t tell me it was an immaculate conception? By e-mail perhaps?
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
LS,…….“The empirical evidence demonstrates that those who are most involved in religious activities are less likely to commit criminal or delinquent acts. Thus, aided by systematic reviews of the relevant literature, it is accurate to state that religiosity is now beginning to be acknowledged as a key protective factor that buffers or shields youth from criminal and delinquency outcomes”
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https://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/41333/chapter/352355230
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But I was initially not talking about orphanages and foster care where a large number of children have already been through abuse beforehand and will not cope too well in most settings. We were talking about more normal and regular situation of humans, where celibacy of any religion clergy can take people to greater and holier spiritual heights.
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old codger / September 8, 2025
Ramona,
“We were talking about more normal and regular situation of humans, where celibacy of any religion clergy can take people to greater and holier spiritual heights.”
So, Sri Lanka with all those celibate monks must be the holiest country in the world. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
OC,….yep!……save for a few of course.
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LankaScot / September 8, 2025
Hello Ramona,
Israel is a Theistic State; you cannot be more Religious as a Country than that. But it is not a Democratic State. There are people in Israel that do not have the same rights as the Jewish Population.
You claimed that ““The empirical evidence demonstrates that those who are most involved in religious activities are less likely to commit criminal or delinquent acts”.
You cannot get much more Criminal than committing a Genocide. So the Theistic State of Israel that worships the same God as you is killing thousands of Civilians in Gaza and is in the process of Ethnically Cleansing the rest. Can you see the contradiction?
Best regards
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davidthegood / September 8, 2025
LankaScot, Israel is a theistic state and worships the one and only Creator God Jehovah, worshipped by all Christians the world over, in the Triune, Father, Son Jesus and the Holy Spirit filling all believers. No way Israel can give up Gaza, which belongs to Judah, (Joshua 15,47), now robbed by Hamas terrorists and funded by Iran. When Ariel Sharon, a former PM of Israel gave up Judah, Sharon went into a coma of 6 years before he died and was buried in the desert.
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
dtg,……Christians chieches would never do what they Israelis are doing. Indeed, the Jewish church would not either.
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LankaScot / September 8, 2025
Hello DTG,
Sharon suffered a minor Ischemic Stroke in 2005 and then after a course of Blood Thinners suffered a major Brain Hemorrhage in early 2006 which left him in a Vegetative State. He was kept alive by Medical Science and died 8 years later. He was given a State Funeral and buried on his Family Farm in the Negev Desert next to his Wife’s Grave.
Sharon was very obese before his strokes. Obesity combined with age is a Common Factor in Stroke predisposition.
Best regards
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SJ / September 8, 2025
LS
How easily are things twisted around to suit a prejudice!
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
LS,…..they ate not Christians.
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SJ / September 8, 2025
“they ate not Christians.’
The lions?
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ramona therese fernando / September 9, 2025
SJ,……ha, ha,…..are,…..i mean ARE. No the Israelis ARE not Christians. So they are really bad.
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Lester / September 7, 2025
Ramona Fernando,
It’s not only in Catholicism that priests and/or nuns abuse young children. Many countries are changing their immigration laws now because immigrants from mostly Islamic countries cannot stop preying on young children. Recently in Scotland, for example, a 12 year girl defended herself with a knife after a pervy immigrant began harassing her. People in many of these Western countries are afraid to go to the swimming pool or park because immigrants in packs are stalking them and their young children. Sometimes it is not a case of religion alone, one lady from the Middle East was saying it’s normal behavior in that culture for men to harass a woman who is not fully covered.
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SJ / September 7, 2025
Are Buddhist clergymen castrated on ordination?
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davidthegood / September 8, 2025
SJ, you have a very sick mind looking for the wrong things.
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SJ / September 8, 2025
I do not look for sin and passage to hell in everything.
I look for the funny side of things and find it readily.
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old codger / September 8, 2025
SJ,
It seems that Rev. Jayalath Fernando of Birmingham is back in action 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Lester / September 9, 2025
“Are Buddhist clergymen castrated on ordination?”
Is this the great “Jaffna Mind” that claimed superiority? Or else an acquaintance (I presume of the XX persuasion) is having a bad day with the lingam. Put a wire through it, attach the wire to a battery, increase the voltage.
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
Lester,….No, it not the culture of the Catholic priest and nuns to abuse children. The Church is very strict in removing such priests and nuns. If they are slow in doing so, it is because of monetary constraints and/or lack of clergy to handle such matters.
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Lester / September 8, 2025
Ramona,
I agree, it is not the official policy of the Catholic Church. From what I have seen, misogyny is much stronger in Islam and Hinduism compared to Christianity. It is this misogyny that often leads to abuse of children.
By the way, there is no caste in Buddhism. Caste implies you cannot marry outside your caste (otherwise caste would not make sense). If this were the case, Sinhala-Buddhists living abroad would not have a very high rate of intermarriage with non-Buddhist foreigners. Hindus never do that. Even the third-generation will only marry other Hindus.
There is class, but class refers to land ownership. The Govi were the traditional landowners and then dominated politics, it doesn’t mean they are high-caste. And there is no creator God in Theravada Buddhism, so who the heck made the different castes?
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old codger / September 8, 2025
Lester the bad liar,
“Hindus never do that. “
Why don’t you ask Usha Vance?
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
OC,……no, these Hindus love the Aryan White skin. Indeed, her university project at Yale university was about uplifting the White race……..something that even the Whites themselves had long forgotten and if they did remember, were embarrassed about. JD Vance got sucked into it. She would have been killed by her family if she had married an Onge.
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old codger / September 8, 2025
Ramona,
Now, what have Onges got to do with this.?
You agreed with Lester :”Hindus never do that. Even the third-generation will only marry other Hindus.”
Is JD Vance an Onge? Or a Hindu?
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old codger / September 8, 2025
Ramona,
You could ask Kamala Harris’s mother too.
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
OC…..both of them would have got killed if they married Dalits, even rich ones. Kamala’s parent’s marriage was tolerated because he was non-Indian and so they were not too sure……he is not too dark-skinned anyway…..looks rather South Indian actually.
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Lester / September 9, 2025
Ramona,
Exactly. The higher-caste would never marry a lower caste Hindu. But they will marry a very rich , politically connected white man. High-caste Indians are already wealthy, but they are very stingy. They also love fair skin, as you mentioned.
Now as I mentioned, most SB’s don’t give a hoot about caste or marrying into money. I knew one SB girl from abroad, very pretty, very smart (STEM degree) and a good singer, she used to scold Christians day and night. Once she referred to Christian women as “loose.” Now guess who she married at the end… yes, some white (academic) fellow. The parents are wealthy and could have arranged a marriage, but she chose this bugger anyway. FYI: she is a good writer too & one of her articles came on CT.
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ramona therese fernando / September 9, 2025
Lester, Correct!
Btw…wonder who this SB writer is.
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Lester / September 9, 2025
Ramona,
Thanks. I don’t mind telling you, but some of the male commenters here have serious issues with the other gender. Since she has an active social media presence, they might start harassing her there.
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old codger / September 9, 2025
Ramona,
Who ever mentioned Dalits? What next, Uighurs?
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
Kamala Harris’ father looks Tamil Bhramin actually, and so they tolerated it. Must have told people he was Bhramin from Jamaica.They look rather miserable about it in their photographs.
https://dioknoed.blogspot.com/2019/10/sen-kamala-harris-launches-south-asians.html?m=1
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SJ / September 8, 2025
“Kamala Harris’ father looks Tamil Bhramin”
Ha Ha Ha
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ramona therese fernando / September 9, 2025
SJ,…..He looks North Indian and is lighter that the mother. Handsome.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/13/us/kamala-harris-parents.html
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https://news.lafayette.edu/2024/08/14/in-the-media-prof-hutchinson-featured-in-washington-post-about-his-work-in-jamaica-with-kamala-harriss-father/
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leelagemalli / September 9, 2025
OC,
Prevariation and factual distortion are common among the most stupdiest pundits, like Lester. He is clearly genetically predisposed to this. Since he has never been able to marry a woman, man, or transgender person and have a happy marriage, a lifelong batchelor may harbour a natural resentment toward many things, as he previously told the CT readership.
In actuality, castes, creeds, and class were intertwined with older generations, but after the X generation, all subsequent generations today tend to disregard castes and class in both contemporary India and Sri Lanka. I am well aware of this because my relative’s old, fashioned parents (Bodu Govi Caste) completely disowned them after they married a European.
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Lester / September 9, 2025
Low IQ “Leela” claims to be a Buddhist but doesn’t know what Buddha said about women:
“Ānanda, females are irritable, jealous, stingy, and unintelligent.”
https://thebuddhaswords.net/an/an4.80.html
The same idiot Leela doesn’t understand that the Sangha was also created to accelerate the path to Nibbana. Much easier to meditate without marital obligations, for obvious reasons.
I don’t agree with Buddha’s remarks about women being unintelligent. But what can be scientifically proved is that testosterone has the potential to heavily control a man’s physical and mental state, if left unchecked. The final aim of Buddhism is freedom from identification with mental states.
Human flesh is impermanent and decaying.
A low IQ bugger like “Leela” is not capable of higher-order thinking. This kind of individual is not capable of delayed gratification. It’s like a starving hyena in search of prey. Buddhism cannot help these people. This is the solution: physician-assisted suicide: https://www.pbs.org/video/pbs-newshour-dr-jack-kevorkian-in-his-own-words/
It should be entirely voluntary.
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
Lester, …..Agreed!
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ramona therese fernando / September 10, 2025
Lester……..the Agreed above is for:
“Exactly. The higher-caste would never marry a lower caste Hindu. But they will……”
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old codger / September 7, 2025
Ramona,
“Catholic celergy on the other hand have a far greater and natural non-bias and aversion towards wealth, class, caste, and societal expectations. “
Wow!! Really, you must tell us how you come across all this “knowledge” while roosting in Pittsburgh. Meditation?
Here is a real study :
“that within the complex social diversity of the village of Marudankandal there is a numerically dominant Tamil caste group, the Kadaiyars, whose prominence is reflected both rhetorically and through the control of institutions such as the Catholic village church. From this, I turn to two central dimensions of local caste praxis. “
Before you jump in, it happens in Southern Catholic churches too. Also, the fact is that Goigama Catholics are a minority.
True, the Catholic church doesn’t have three or four different sets of clergy for different castes, like the Buddhists, but caste does exist within it.
https://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/10112094/
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ramona therese fernando / September 7, 2025
OC….depends on where the church is located in the South. Sinhala areas where large Govi populations reside, one would expect them to have more representation in church affairs, and as they are the chief donors too. Along the coast with the Karavas being the largest representation and donors, they would naturally be involved in the church more. Poorer sectors/castes of the population freely worship in the churches freely, with everyone sitting randomly in the pews and joyfully singing On this Day oh Beautiful Mother with tears in their eyes.
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ramona therese fernando / September 7, 2025
In the Hindu North on the other hand, with each village, town, and city being divided intricately into caste, the richest caste would naturally donate more to any religious institution and hold representation in it. The church there is hence obviously different from the church in the South, but can’t help itself because it can only follow localized cultural settings. Yet, they are a far, far, cry from the Hindu establishments where caste is ingrained and temples are only for certain castes and lower castes get chased away. Catholic Church in the North is far more open to the poorer castes sitting in the pews in church….albeit, some sit on the floor……in fact, welcomes them in show of temporary humility……alas, culture takes presidence.
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SJ / September 7, 2025
rtf
Even in the Buddhist South, caste division and hierarchy has been there for long. Things changed faster in the South but caste as identity persists.
FYI, the Christians are not free of caste-based thinking be they Tamils or Sinhalese.
The Muslims do not have caste identity though.
The Catholic Church initially attracted the Karave and it is predominantly Karave along the west coast. Catholics practice caste even in the cemetery according to an old Catholic friend.
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ramona therese fernando / September 7, 2025
SJ……not at all in the Southern Catholic Churches. I lived in the Central province as a child and there was none of that going on. I lived in the Western Province as a teenager, and there was nothing like that again. My Catholic relatives and friends never had any idea about these things.
For cemeteries, it’s class that gets the better cemetery section (although caste might come into it if they have the money to buy the plots) .You’re a Catholic and you wouldn’t know this other than from hearsay from jusr one person. But you would love to ensure caste creeps in so you can cling to your elevated position, isn’t it, SJ!
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
SJ,…..You’re NOT a Catholic and you wouldn’t know this other than from hearsay from just one old Catholic friend.
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old codger / September 8, 2025
Ramona,
“SJ,…..You’re NOT a Catholic ……”
One doesn’t have to be a Catholic to read and understand research papers written about caste practices in the Catholic Church. Don’t you think they are more valid than some teenager’s imaginations?
Most of this happens in the coastal belt, where fishing communities have their own churches and cemeteries, even though they too are Karawa like the other residents. There are divisions even within castes.
If you don’t know, you don’t know.
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
OC…..I married a Karava Sinhalese and I can promise you there is no caste issues with them in the Catholic church or any other Christian denomination. There might be issues with the Karava Tamils, but I think that their caste system within the church, if any, is far less than that of the Hindus. There might be some reservation between the two communities (Sinhala and Tamil Karavas), but in the end, as with most Buddhists with no caste in their doctrines, marriages between communities are tolerated and even encouraged, unlike with the Hindu communities that will absolutely forbid it to the point of murder at times.
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Anyone can write a research paper and publish it, depending on how far they want to cause division snd unfairly pull down a country’s society……it’s rampant in a place like Sri Lanka, with much money involved. Lankan old time research papers of more than 20 years ago cannot be taken into account because they did not have proper channels of scholarly inquiry as they do now.
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old codger / September 8, 2025
Ramona,
“Lankan old time research papers of more than 20 years ago cannot be taken into account because they did not have proper channels of scholarly inquiry as they do now.”
So your husband’s “research” is more believable?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
–Did you read even the title of the paper??
“Esler, Dominic; (2020) Under the Giant’s Tank. Village, Caste, and Catholicism in Postwar Sri Lanka.”
What do you think “postwar” and “2020” mean?
Oh Gawd!
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
OC……that paper again is about the Northern province that is full of Hindus……alas,culture crosses over even into Christianity.
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SJ / September 8, 2025
You want to paint a picture of purity of the Church.
I write based on what I know fr real. I got my story from a practising Catholic. He recorded it in a poem written sometime ago.
I had a Govi Catholic colleague who was a de Silva. He told me that I should not mistake him for a Karawa or any such thing.
I am sure that even if he married a non-Christan he would not have married a non-Govi.
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
SJ….ah, he was just one person….racist and castist…….not the general culture……….like the bad abuse priests and nuns (only a small percentage of them). Some Sinhala Karava old fellows also distance themselves from the Tamils, and say they are of Aryan stock (looked dark with curley hair and things)…..how embarassing……Iranians must be shouting. But they are only a few.
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Even here in USA, you’d find Italian Catholics, and Irish Catholics, and Polish Catholics,,,,,although most are all mixed with each other….sea of White faces…..We had the “Divine Mercy Novena” going on once. One fellow who was pure was of pure German stock I think, told me that he would not go for it because it was from a Polish nun, Saint Faustina Kowalska.
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But need we talk about these old codgers who are outliner to normal rationality? Most humans are Normal!
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ramona therese fernando / September 9, 2025
SJ…….then one time, there was a highly bumptious White man in Novena church in Singapore that I attended many years ago, who was married to a Chinese woman. Both were in their late 40’s, early 50’s I think….the woman was pregnant and giving praises inside the church for the occasion I think. We were standing outside. My little son pulled away from my hand, walked up to him and started chattering to him. The man then brought him back to me and said in wry amusement, “Your son seems to think he knows me.” So, I told him that he looked like one of my husband’s colleagues who was German. The fellow jumped in shock, and in loud boastful pride started extolling that whilst he was Canadian, he was actually 50% German (eyes and voice rolling in pride), 20% percent Irish and so on, and went on numbering his ancestry to me…….so I told him, congratulations. Then his wife came out after giving the praises and stood at a distance and called him away sharply. I think it is because we looked Indianish, and she thought the baby would come out looking Indian or something.
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ramona therese fernando / September 9, 2025
But never mind them. Our country oldsters go on about caste, and all within the same race. Oh gross misery; oh calamity! 😥
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davidthegood / September 8, 2025
SJ, the Catholic church has paid money and bought their section so that they can bury their own dead in a safe area and without hindrance from others who don”t contribute to the Catholic church. They could be buried in a separate area without ownership. What is wrong with that principle practiced by the state.?
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SJ / September 8, 2025
I talked about discrimination by caste among Catholics.
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ramona therese fernando / September 9, 2025
No Dtg…..it is from hindrance from those who do not believe in the Catholic faith.
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SebastianSR / September 8, 2025
Christian Churches in the North have graveyards where everyone knows which part of the yard are for the “…..pillai” castes. The upper rungs of the church are also reserved for the high castes. Even in the south, the division into so-called “Nikayas: came into being after the Buddhist Monks invited the Dravidian Nayakkar clan from Andradesh to become kings. They were required to be “Buddhist” at least in public. But the caste-consicous Hindu Nayakkars insisted that if they worship any monks, then they should be upper-caste. So the Monks of the Kandy temples complied (perhaos too willingly?). Meanwhile a number of Buddhist groups objected to this caste division and created “Nikayas” that did not insist on the novice being from an Upper caste. However, as far as I know (being brought up in the North as a Catholic) , the temples (even the innermost sanctums of the Dalada Maligawa) do not insist on temple entry being restricted to the Upper Castes and so forth as with Hindu Temples. Traditonal sinhalese families discretly inquire about caste when it comes to marriage, but not in other social circumstances. The Hindu Naykkars presented a Buddhist public image, but also built Kovils right across the Dalada Maligawa in Kandy for their use.
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SJ / September 8, 2025
SSR
Thank you for the clarification on caste in the Catohlic faith.
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Kandyan Hindu Devales adjoining Viharas had a purpose. Wives of the Kandyan royalty and many of the nobility were not Buddhists and many Hindu Devales were for them to worship.
Hindu Devales exist in the South, many independent of a Vihara, some more influential than Viharas. Their origins would connect with the faith of the settlers who became Buddhist but could not let go of their old faiths. But exclusion by caste was not known.
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ramona therese fernando / September 9, 2025
Yes, thank you SSR.
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But the point is, SJ, he only mentioned the Christians in the North where most of the Hindus reside….. culture coincides with religion over there. Anyway, families usually go together in the same caste, and so they all want to be buried together. He did not mention the South as there is very little of it, if any, amongst the Sinhala Catholics.
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ramona therese fernando / September 9, 2025
SebastianSR,……Traditonal sinhalese families discretly inquire about caste when it comes to marriage, only when their children find it difficult to find partners on their own. If they find a partner on their own, any caste or even race is accepted. Otherwise, naturaly, you’d go to your own caste first because that’s where you’d know most people.
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ramona therese fernando / September 7, 2025
Ok, now that I have patiently explained all to you, I will pray🙏 that the innocence of your younger days will emerge, and the Old Codger Iago mindset will diminish.
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davidthegood / September 8, 2025
old codger, you cannot erase the caste of a Sri Lankan, no matter what religion he believes in. Surely, you are not that ignorant?
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old codger / September 8, 2025
DTG,
Why are you telling me? Ramona is the one who said Christians have no caste divisions. BTW, what is your caste?
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
davidthegood,…..I agree to an extent. Yet, there is, and has been, much caste mixing as the castes came together especially after colonization when the division of labours (now called castes……quite different from the Hindu castes) worked together to create money for the colonists. Many of us are proof of that. To still categorize people according to race and also caste in Sri Lanka, demographics were created according to paternal lineage surnames….what your father’s father determined this, rather than the reality of your blood connections. So one would find Burgher looking people going as Tamil and Sinhalese, and Sinhalese and Tamil looking people going as Burgher at times. But after living in S.East Asia in my young days and coming back as a teenager to study in Sri Lanka, everybody looked the same actually.
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davidthegood / September 9, 2025
rtf, Mixing of castes means the caste is still intact, only people decided to mix may be for the purpose of marriage. No question that caste can be erased from mentality, however hard you try.
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leelagemalli / September 10, 2025
Readers,
It is incorrect to claim that castes and class-based social divisions do not appear to exist among Sri Lankan Muslims.
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Caste/Class and Muslims
There are caste and class divisions among the ethnically diverse group of Muslims in Sri Lanka, which includes Moors, Malays, and Indian Muslims.
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Social divisions such as “Marakkayar,” “Lebbe,” “Thakkiya,” “Memon,” etc. have operated similarly to castes, despite Islam’s rejection of them.
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Marriages between members of more affluent or business-oriented communities and those from less affluent or rural backgrounds are particularly avoided by some Muslims.
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Therefore, hierarchies do exist among Muslims, albeit they are less formalized than those found in Hinduism.
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ramona therese fernando / September 6, 2025
The Carholic church knows there is a percentage of people who are more asexual than others and/or who are able the channel their minds and feelings to ones of elevated devotional and metaphysical states. The Ancient knew this and used these people as moral and spiritual compasses for their flailing societies.
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SebastianSR / September 7, 2025
Ramona writes “Catholic celergy on the other hand have a far greater and natural non-bias and aversion towards wealth, class, caste, and societal expectations.”
I am amazed, given the widely known history of the Church from the early days of the Holy Roman Empire to financial and sex scanles of more recent times. The Vatican Bank is the Institute for the Works of Religion (IOR), the collapse of the Banco Ambrosiano in 1982, which it was a major shareholder of. The death of Pope John Paul I in 1978, whose reign was brief, has fueled conspiracy theories connecting his death to the Vatican Bank and the Banco Ambrosiano, although the claims of his suicide are separate from the bank. Here is BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-23289297
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LankaScot / September 7, 2025
Hello SebastianSR,
Here is another Link on the Corruption of the Catholic Church that was mentioned on your previous Link Roberto Calvi https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/may/12/roberto-calvi-blackfriars-bridge-mafia
I remember it well.
Best regards
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old codger / September 7, 2025
SSR,
Ramona, as usual, though living safely in Pittsburgh, claims to know more about what happens in Sri Lanka than those of us who live here………
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ramona therese fernando / September 7, 2025
Strong connections with the Motherland OC. And,yes, I lived there as a child and a teenager. I attended both churches as half my relatives were Catholic, and the other half were Anglican. Catholic Church was a joy 1🙌🫶Anglican church was so fake……it was like zealous dark-skinned people acting like British colonials or something. Very embarassing.
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ramona therese fernando / September 7, 2025
SebastianSR….Alas…..so true. The Devil entered the sanctuary of the church at times. Yet, throughout all the ages, devout people clung to its holiness🙏with the blood of the martyrs and saints who died for the truth. The Church has remained steadfast. What has emerged is a more righteous and innocent set of people, following more truly and humbly in Jesus’ footsteps.
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Quite different from how the Anglican Church came about with England’s King Henry VIII wanting other wives (2 of which he beheaded) because he wanted a male heir and hence broke away from the Holy Roman Catholic Church.
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LankaScot / September 8, 2025
Hello Ramona,
Henry VIII knew nothing about Genetics. How was he to know that in Humans it is the male that determines the sex of the Baby. So the fault lay with him. I have only daughters, my two brothers have only daughters, so even without any knowledge of Genetics we all saw the pattern.
Apart from that Henry did have male children, legitimate and illegitmate. His daughter Elizabeth 1 may have been a hermaphrodite, Mary I, a staunch Catholic, was also known as “Bloody Mary” for her brutality (is their a Catholic pattern there?) and finally his son Edward VI. Edward ruled first, next Bloody Mary and finally Elizabeth for 50 or so years.
Best regards
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ramona therese fernando / September 8, 2025
LS…….still he murdered and killed and committed adultery. Anglican church was born upon that.
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SebastianSR / September 8, 2025
Ramona says “…….still he murdered and killed and committed adultery. Anglican church was born upon that.”
Argument from origins is not accepted in civilized circles. A lotus can come out of mud.
IN any case, how can adultry happen without God being complicit in it? The “bastard” is provided with a soul by God’s grace. This was a problem that St Augustine worried about and could not resolve. The sins of the Catholic Church, or the Anglican church throughout history are sins of God himself. Or, who know if Gof is tempteing you to bad things to test your faith, as in the book of JOB. So, Prof. Hoole, if he is a good Christian, must show his faith in God by acting to cover up the sins of the church, give generously to the church, and prise priests even if they commit adultery or defraud church funds. They are God’s churches, the way he wants them.
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ramona therese fernando / September 9, 2025
SebastianSR,……..the Anglican church emerged from Henry 8ths evil doings. He spurned the Holy Catholic Church, took on the form of a self-centered egomaniac, created a culture that later spread its evil roots all over the world in autocratic divide and conquest, from Sri Lanka to the creation of the rogue state of Israel, and unless we crispr out these morphed genes, the world is going to hell soon.
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LankaScot / September 8, 2025
Hello Ramona,
So no comment on “Bloody Mary’s” reign of terror trying to re-introduce Catholicism to England? These included “ordering the burning of nearly 300 Protestants at the stake between 1555 and 1558 as part of the Marian Persecutions, a brutal attempt to re-establish Catholicism in England”
There is much much more if you would bother to read some actual History instead of relying on the confused meanderings/visions inside your head.
Best regards
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ramona therese fernando / September 9, 2025
We ALL know that history LS! But In your limited head, you can’t seem to extrapolate new logic, can you. Terrible history of what White Man did to White Man. They would have done it with or without religion. Best regards.
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old codger / September 9, 2025
“We ALL know that history ” – Ramona
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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leelagemalli / September 9, 2025
Ramona,
Regretfully, I don’t think your responses are insightful. For instance, we absolutely know where we stand on Trumpism. Even though the entire world is against him, you publicly show your love for him. Some people (asians, afros and europeans) I know adore cobras as well.
Furthermore, prevarications cannot advance us all even a single inch. Ramona, who has no idea what she is talking about, also disputes about DNA and biomedical issues. Unfortunately, this is quite prevalent across many age groups in our island nation (in all communities).
In all honesty, because Christians are regularly governed by an unseen god, they are far less caste conscious and refined. The best extreme example that we can see is DTG (David The God). Even children would laugh uncontrollably at him and his absurd remarks.
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LankaScot / September 9, 2025
Hello Ramona,
Genghis Khan was also white? What about the Mahabharata Wars?
Best regards
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ramona therese fernando / September 9, 2025
Ok LS,….i don’t like to insult what’s inside people’s heads. Yes, it IS terrible what the Catholic Chruch did in the past. The inquisition was terrible. I wonder how Christ and his Mother Mary could have allowed such things. As per Bloody Mary, White people were doing all these things to each other even before Christianity…..it just got worse with Jesus talking about hellfire. The White men took their chance to see it as literal. Anyway, the Church has apologized for it and said that it was the Evil One who took over the Chruch at that time. “Yes, Pope John Paul II apologized for the sins of the Catholic Church, including those committed during the Inquisition, in 2000 as part of a broader apology for past wrongs committed in the name of faith. This apology was made to all people who had suffered from the Church’s actions over the centuries. “
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LankaScot / September 9, 2025
Hello Ramona,
Jesus was white?
Best regards
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ramona therese fernando / September 9, 2025
LS,….no, but Whtie people quickly jumped into the hell-fire part in glee.
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Lester / September 9, 2025
Ramona,
” The inquisition was terrible.”
What ISIS did in Syria and Iraq is worse than any Inquisition. And it was fully supported by the Sunnis. The Inquisition consisted largely of punishing heretics. But it was not a fascist movement. ISIS were openly selling young Yazidi girls in the market, like cattle. Throwing gay men off the roof. Destroying churches and taking nuns hostage. There should be a Nuremberg Part II for all the Arab leaders.
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ramona therese fernando / September 9, 2025
Lester,….agree,….terrible!
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davidthegood / September 9, 2025
LankaScot, All wanting to take control of the masses, will burn the opposition. Surely you should know human behavior.
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Tony / September 6, 2025
That’s why it’s really important to nationalise missionary schools immediately.
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ramona therese fernando / September 6, 2025
Tony….Agree. Or taxed depending on how they contrubute or do not contribute to the greater society in terms of sopcial welfare. The Catholic church has a bountiful number of missions and safe-houses for the masses….(not sure if they give it to society at large, or keep it only for those of the Christian faith)……Church of England is very limited in their charitable undertakings. Government should audit all of them.
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Jaffna Man / September 7, 2025
Ramona Therese,
Cardinal Tagle of the Philippines was removed as Head of Caritas. International by Pope Francis for mismanagement of funds. That was a kind of coverup by asking Tagle to read the order. That let him be a serious candidate for Pope last time.
There are now reports that Cardinal Tagle has been removed from all administrative duties by Pope Leo who does not mince words and spells out what Tagle did:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7lttAp8-FNA&pp=0gcJCcYJAYcqIYzv
Such reports appear only on YouTube and not anywhere else but his speech seems authentic and too elaborate to cook up.
It seems we have a pope standing up for truth rather than wanting priests with personal charisma more than being men of faith.
I have given the link above because His Holiness’ speech is a model for all churches and really worth listening to.
Kenneth would have learnt a lot from this speech but alas he is not with us. But Dushantha can still learn from Pope Leo
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ramona therese fernando / September 7, 2025
Jaffna Man,……..
This YouTube is obviously fake. When the speaker and interpreter mentions Cardinal Tagle’s name, Pope Leo is opening his hands in blessing towards the congregation. He is going through the liturgy, and not giving a sermon. And the Catholic clergy will not speak about ecclesiastical issues during a mass service, but maybe in a formal pronouncement to members of the synod. But yes, the Pope is, I believe, is removing or reassigning church clergy who are mismanaging funds or who are involved in corruption.
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Jaffna Man / September 7, 2025
Thank you. My parish priest is also of the opinion it is fake..
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old codger / September 7, 2025
Ramona,
It is the wrong Pope, but Tagle was indeed dropped. Is Al Jazeera good enough for you?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/11/22/pope-sacks-global-catholic-charity-leadership-names-commissioner
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ramona therese fernando / September 7, 2025
OC,…..see?…..Pope Francis took action!
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davidthegood / September 8, 2025
Jaffna Man, any major change to the Anglican church worldwide has to be done by the Archbishop of Canterbury.
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Jaffna Man / September 10, 2025
David.
The national Anglican Churches are sister churches and are not ruled by the Archbishop who is sort of first among equals.
Thus many Asian and African Churches have broken off and taken hostile action against homosexual ordinations. Some now boycott Lambeth.
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old codger / September 7, 2025
Ramona,
Yesterday you wrote “Tony….Agree. Or taxed depending on how they contrubute or do not contribute to the greater society in terms of sopcial welfare”
Now you say :”These people were the only ones to go out with open hearts and caring hands to give assistance to the needy when others looked away. These children were still far better than state-care facilities, if any, of the time. Most of these children in the end were looked after adequately”
Surely you can’t be that scatterbrained.
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ramona therese fernando / September 7, 2025
OC,……i fail to see your line of questioning (is it called filibustering….gaslighting?). If you read my original comments, I say that the Catholic Church does a lot of charitable work and could be exempted from taxes in lieu of their good works towards the countrymen. The Anglican Church has billions of dollars in its coffers that everybody is fighting about, but does not have the equivalent set of charitable works. All religions should be audited and taxed accordingly.
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SJ / September 7, 2025
Nationalise schools but also make them secular.
Make teaching of religion a parental option, desirably outside the main school curriculum. Ideally taught outside the school
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davidthegood / September 8, 2025
SJ, what an idiot you are trying to destroy what little any child can gather from a specified school curriculum about religion, specially where parents are incapable of doing.
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SJ / September 8, 2025
Why should religion be imposed on innocent children without parental consent?
A parent is a better judge of what is good for the child than an indifferent school management
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SebastianSR / September 8, 2025
. So, is SJ agreable to NOT teaching anything about a religon like Marxism, ( known to be the opium of itellectuals), the truth about the October revolution and its horrific brutality, how Mao or Pol Pot killed millions? Wars of religion, Jacobites and Arganots, the Hussar wars? Religion and ideology are part and parcel of human evolution. All religons, except perhaps Buddhism and Jainism, talk of chosen people who are the elites (“Brahamins, Jews, members of the communist part etc) who go to heaven or its secular equivalent. Religion should be taught as a part of biology, without superstition or adulation, clearly stating their (mostly) negative aspects on ethical progress and establishing equality for all humans.
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SJ / September 8, 2025
FYI
Marxism cannot be taught like any religion as it has no unquestionable notions like god, soul, afterlife, sin etc.
People are taught ethical values from very early days.
They had a subject called ‘Comparative Religion’ at a school in Colombo where I was for two years. It persuaded people to have an open mind ad accept that there are multiple ways of looking at life.
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“Religion should be taught as a part of biology”
Great idea!
Evolution can start with Adam and Eve and the forbidden fruit.
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davidthegood / September 9, 2025
SJ, since when did religion become biology. These are 2 separate subjects taught in schools. There is no evolution in Adam and Eve. They simply had children like we have now. We are not evolving, but having been saved by Jesus, we are waiting for him to come again for us.
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old codger / September 9, 2025
DTG,
“since when did religion become biology.?”
If your holy book says that Eve was created from Adam’s rib, then you must have one more rib than your wife. If you don’t, then you have evolved.
If your holy book says that Adam’s children married each other, it is a book of biology.
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SJ / September 9, 2025
Do not be silly.
Tell it to whoever said “Religion should be taught as a part of biology”
BTW
If all of us are descendants of A & E, there should have been a hell of a lot of sinful sexual relations among our ancestors.
Funny is it not?
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LankaScot / September 9, 2025
Hello SebastienSR,
I have no objection to teaching about Religion in Schools. However I object to the kind of indoctrination that was relentlessly pursued by one of my sister’s Teachers at Primary School. This Teacher also ran extra curricular classes under the Banner “Scripture Union” and would single out children that didn’t take part.
This is the model for the DTG idea of Religious Education.
By the way the Jacobites (unless you didn’t mean the Scottish ones) were trying to restore the Stewarts to the British Throne. I don’t think Religion should be taught as part of Biology, possibly Humanities or History. Religion has nothing in common with any of the Sciences. Marxism is a Political/Philosophical Ideology not a Religion. You may compare some of the versions like Stalinism as bordering on Religious, but that’s a long debate.
Best regards
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SebastianSR / September 9, 2025
Humanities and history are also parts of human evolution and should be taught within the framework of the Darwinian scheme of evolutionary social change. Prehistory should include the evolution of Neanderthal and Desovian civilisations that came prior to humans, including the homosexual and heterosexual relations, as well as caring relations and agression that exist in those primate societies. There are biological analogues to Facists and Marxists, Catholics and Anglicans, even among Neanderthals.
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LankaScot / September 9, 2025
Hello SebastienSR,
Humanities and History are nothing to do with Human Evolution.
Evolution is defined as the change in allele frequencies within populations over time.
Mutations and Recombinations take place in DNA due to stochastic chemical processes.
This variation provides the material for natural selection, which then acts on phenotypes.
https://darwin200.christs.cam.ac.uk/modern-synthesis
The main Tenets of the Modern Synthesis are
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• Population and Mendel’s principles of genetics are compatible with evolution.
• Evolution occurs by the accumulation of small genetic changes; it is a gradual process in this sense, though can vary in its actual rate.
• Natural selection is the dominant evolutionary force, which works on variation in individuals’ characters.
• Evolution occurs within populations, where gene flow and genetic drift can have effects additional to those of selection.
• Evolutionary studies of the fossil record relate to what is observed within species. Evolution within a population is referred to as micro-evolution, the fossil record records macro-evolution which is evolution of species.
You are referring to Cultural Evolution which is not Genetic. Would you suggest that a babies Language (Hindi, French, English etc.) is passed on Genetically?
Best regards
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LankaScot / September 9, 2025
Hello SebastienSR,
“Darwinian scheme of evolutionary social change”. That is Social Darwinism, Herbert Spencer and Darwin’s Eugenic Relation Francis Galton were the main advocates. https://www.history.com/articles/social-darwinism
Much closer to early Soviet Marxism than Science, see the ideas of Lysenko that led to famine in the Soviet Union.
Best regards
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old codger / September 9, 2025
SSR,
“Prehistory should include the evolution of Neanderthal and Desovian civilisations….”
True, but those were cultures, not civilizations though they did have rituals.
The earliest known civilization is the 12000 year old one at Gobekli Tepe.
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davidthegood / September 8, 2025
Tony, your sick head wants to nationalise missionary schools and take control. But the missionary schools still exist while these sick heads have fake stories to chase away the principles back home. Mission is a purpose of the God of this universe. Sick heads need to stomach it.
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davidthegood / September 9, 2025
Tony, why immediately, so you can control I suppose, when you kill off the good. Some ambition.
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Jaffna Man / September 9, 2025
IMPORTANT NEWS: The Bishop and the CMS Board Fire Rev. Fr. Daniel Jeyaruban
Part I of II
Following Saturday’s CMS Board Meeting in Jaffna, on Monday evening St. John’s Manager The Rev.Dhanon Senathirajah handed over a letter of dismissal together with the inquiry report by Mr. Janaprith Fernando. Based on reports, Fernando found Fr. Daniel guilty of three of the 7 or 8 charges. These were that he operated a common email address for the Teachers’ Guild, and a WhatsApp group, that he did not inform the Principal of meetings of the Teachers’ guild and that he wrote to the CMS Board bypassing the Principal.
Even if true, nothing merits dismissal. The other charges were dismissed.
He was asked to vacate his quarters opposite Bastian Rest House on Kandy Road with immediate effect.
This is a time when Mrs. Jeyaruban and their infant daughter are in hospital – the baby in an incubator in one room, and the mother in another from where she goes regularly to feed her baby.
How is it possible for the family to vacate their quarters with immediate effect? The heartless order’s only effect is to tell Fr. Daniel, “We are your boss. This is the cost of not bowing to our will.”
Recall that the The Right ReverendDushantha Rodrigo visited the Jeyarubans in hospital and prayed for and blessedthem as soon as he came to Jaffna from Colombo on Friday night and took the decision to decapitate his priest on Saturday. Are his blessings a disguised curse?.
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ramona therese fernando / September 9, 2025
Jaffna Man,…surely they can’t kick them out of their home with that premature baby? Hopefully (maybe they know, he has access to other housing…hopefully he is rich). Whole thing sounds terribly absurd. Do you think there is some organizational seup for the seperatists to use church money for the Eelam project?
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Jaffna Man / September 9, 2025
Father Daniel is relatively poor. His widowed mother was massacred by the IPKF. The orphaned siblings were brought up by an uncle as I remember. His brother, an engineer deliberately went for a not so well endowed girl. She is an officer at HNB. They are not rich.
The CMS pays the Principal almost Rs. 4 Lakhs a month and has given him a luxury car, but teachers doing overtime sports coaching get Rs. 200 an hour in overtime. They can make a lot more giving private tuition.
Similar issues are what separate Fr. Daniel from the stingy CMS.
When the Church has money (I think Rs. 20 billion in endowment) and power through connections, the bishop and his managers think anything illegal they do is the law.
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Jaffna Man / September 9, 2025
Part II of II: The Simile
As Bishop, Rodrigo is Danel’s spiritual father in a more special way that he is to lay members of the church, and Daniel is his son, with the decent expectation that his Spiritual Father would safeguard him from absurd charges from Principal Thuseetharan, Manager Senathirajah and CMS Chairman Setukavalar.
The pretended father-son relationship reminds me of an appropriate simile.
The powerful and generous god Karunan was born to Kuntidevi mating with the sun. She abandoned Karunan in a basket in the Ganges and married Pandu who was cursed and unable to have children. Arichunan’s biological father was Indra, though he was considered the son of King Pandu, the customs of the time allowing Kuntidevi to father children with gods while married to Pandu, giving us the Pandava brothers including Arichunan.
Indra, Arichunan’s divine father and Karunan’s step-father, tricked Karunan into giving up his divine armor (kavasalam) and earrings (kundalam). Disguised as a Brahmin, Indra exploited Karunan’s renowned generosity to secure his most powerful defense, leaving him vulnerable. Krishnan, as Arichunan’s charioteer, ordered him to strike Karnan while he was helpless. Thus Karunan was killed by treachery.
Simile
Father Daniel is Karunan betrayed. The Bishop is the cruel Indran. Thuseetharan is the successful, wily Krishnan.
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Thokaikalia / September 9, 2025
First Part of Two
The pathetic Anglican, and Thomian and Bishop who stands between God and us and these catchers of his apart, there must be good souls operating in God’s own love around. Is his skull cap made of some spiritually unpenetrating lead that the compassion of Christ crucified above him at the Cathedral does not penetrate into his head, mouth and heart? How does his congregation look on?
Father Daniel should refuse to vacate his quarters just like that, the crisis and humanitarian situation apart. A landlord cannot evict a tenant without giving notice and there is a given procedure. He does not have to even appeal. What they need is physical help and emotional support.
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Thokaikalia / September 9, 2025
Second Part of Two
The Church of Ceylon , the so called successor of the Church of England in Ceylon and Moratuwa in its visible culture, has now totally lost it. It is neither scholastic, nor pietistic. It is not humanist. It does not seem to believe now even in child rights or women’s rights which the highpriests now like to talk about with not வடை vade, but with cake, and pastries and good tea – food-crisis or not.
Father Daniel’s salary is not enough and he was far too generous with his stuff including his gas cylinder during the crisis. He is a gentle soul. It is in the Sri Lankan culture to care for the pregnant and infants. What they need is physical help and emotional support. I am praying God will arrange for his humble servant.
Sad St. John’s is being made into a dreadful institution. Ms. Peiris has no respect for clergy. Poor Father Coomaraswamy must be turning in his grave. Maybe it is revenge for her Father, an Innocent God fearing clergyman not supporting her marriage outside the Church to Suren Peiris. A clique selected by her and empowered by Bishop Dushantha is destroying the Anglican Institutions among the Tamils.
Look at Pope Leo. Compassion is Christ and servant’s humility, the walk and mark of his kingdom.
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Jaffna Man / September 9, 2025
Without asserting anything definitive, I state that many suspect the Anglican Church of playing a dirty ethnic game, advancing within the management structure those who have weak Tamil mainstream identity, without doing that to Sinhalese.
Examples commonly cited are
1. Thanja Peiris
2. Dhanon Senathirajah Manager St. John’s is married to a far eastern lady.
3. Principal Thuseetharan whose family name is Silva and gets angry if called Mr. Silva
4. Bishop Dushantha Rodrigo with a ParavaTamil name from Trinco but does not talk about it
5. Bishop Dhilo Canagasabey, married to a Sinhalese.
6. Bishop J. Gnanapragasam who does not belong to a mainstream Tamil community, was rooted more in the hill country than in Jaffna when he came as Archdeacon Jaffna
7. Some believe that Bishop Duleep de Chickera is Tamil. At his election where Dhilo was contesting and lost, I overheard some Tamil priests gloating, before the vote, “whoever wins, it will be Nammadai AaL.”
8. Sam Ponniah chosen early as archdeacon is married to a Sinhalese
9. CMS Chairman Setukavalar, married to a Sinhalese
10. The Manageress of Chundikuli Girls’ College is married to a Sinhalese person.
This practice weakens Tamil strength while letting it be said that Tamils are favoured by the Church
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davidthegood / September 9, 2025
Jaffna Man, if all are mixed marriages, how can Tamil strength be weakened? And also favoured by the church.
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Jaffna Man / September 10, 2025
A Johnian has commented as follows on the SJC Global forum about the Bishop’s blessing of Fr. Daniel and family:
More aptly, Brutus visiting Julius Caesar and taking him to the Senate where he was stabbed and killed.
Another has said that it was like What Judas did to Jesus.
A third has said, “ s this the opportune time for the true and real Johnians to come together to forge a real change against the anarchy of the college and the church? Should a proper legal challenge be initiated to bring about a change? Should the Johnians in the diaspora be the catalyst for this change to happen?”
The 4th response is: “ It is truly heartbreaking. Religious leaders preach Christ, who showed compassion to sinners and cared for the needy. Yet here, we see the vulnerable being abandoned—something that goes completely against His principles.
“It is very sad to hear that another dedicated member of the tutorial staff at SJC has been forced out by the cold and unfeeling Colombo-based members of CMS.
“This was a person who, as president of the Teachers’ Guild, spoke openly, honestly, and without fear. But instead of valuing his courage and sincerity, he has been silenced by those who claim to be managers of SJC. Many of us strongly believe this harsh and inhuman decision was not taken in the name of Christ.
“Day by day, under their management, the real struggles of both tutorial and junior staff are ignored. The one who tried to highlight these problems, using modern tools and technology to bring them forward, has now been made a victim.
“The CMS managers must understand that the election or selection of managers and governing board members should be fair, transparent, and inclusive. More than 60% of the students at SJC are non-Christian, and the same applies to the teaching staff. Yet, do they have a true representative on the governing board?
“It is deeply saddening to see, day by day, the proud Red and Black flag being lowered from the flagpole.”
In a separate comment he says, “ Since Rev. Father Daniel Jeyaruban was paid by the Ministry of Education, he must take this matter directly to the ministry officials and to the Governer Northern Province and firmly expose the flaws and injustices behind CMS action and demand a fair review of this inhumane and deeply unfair ruling.”
All of them have given their identities but it s not me to put them down.
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SJ / September 9, 2025
A few too many sick minds seem to be busy on this page.
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TT / September 10, 2025
utter disgrace to the church & the mission backed school st. john’s. The church is using these schools to raise funds for the mission . For the luxury life of the Bishop, Archdeacon’s & ex Bishops & so on. They are prepared to do any evil to protect theirself. All Anglicans, should stop giving a penny to this disgraceful church. Also i urge all anglicans from refrainning to go tO this Sunday service as a protest of the injustice caused to Rev. Daniel. I hear the jaffna Archdeacon who is the vicar of St. James church nallur, has transfered a sum of money to the diocese with the approval of the board of wardens. Its high time for the lay people to take the church to the courts & punish these suckers
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