18 September, 2019

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Buddhist Monks Want To Demolish A Muslim Community Building In Colombo

By Colombo Telegraph

Protest - Photo S. P Ariyaratne

Buddhist monks took to the streets yesterday again demanding the demolition of yet another Muslim community building in Colombo, claiming it was illegal, Ceylon Today reports. Meanwhile Divaina newspaper claims that the building is a illegal cattlekilling place belong to Islam fundamentalists.

Over 250 protestors led by Buddhist monks including JHU monk Akmeemana Dayaratane (ex MP JHU), staged a demonstration yesterday in front of Galvihara Road, Dehiwala, calling for the demolition of the Madarasa ‘Darul- Qur’an lil Baranil Iman. The protestors charged it is an illegal construction and a place where goats are scarified.

One of the monks leading the protest claimed the Madarasa should be demolished as the Muslims had constructed it illegally; a claim many Muslims in the area are disputing.

In response to this a member of the trustee board, Hizni Mohamed said the Madarasa named has been situated here for over 13 years. “It is a place mainly to teach and educate the children on religion and the Qur’an,” he said.

He said the monks’ claim that the Muslims were rearing goats and sacrificing them within the premises of the Madarasa, but nothing of that sort happened. “It is not an illegal construction. We have accurate deeds and the building has been there for so many years,” he said.

According to the Western Province UNP PC member Mujibur Rahman, this Madarasa has been frequented by the Muslims for 13 years and this problem of demolishing has begun all of a sudden. “Nothing illegal or unlawful is happening,” he confirmed.

When Ceylon Today contacted the Mayor of Dehiwala-Mount Lavinia, Municipal Council Dhanasiri Amaratunge said that a group of monks had complained to him regarding an illegal construction.

“I sent a team to inspect the area and we have found that the Madarasa is an illegal construction and we have summoned them to court on Monday. Even before the legal aspect could be done the villagers and the monks have begun a protest,” he said.

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    Have you ever wondered about the Islamic call for prayer, which happened to be under close scrutiny and eventually banned by Court Order, under the flimsy excuse of noise pollution. Before the Court Order was made, suddenly, even the Buddhist temples started competing through the use of hailers (loud speakers) in the early morning, with tape recorded gathas and Vera mani Siththa padam, to virtually drown out the Islamic prayer call. It created such a din, that it was extremely difficult for Muslims to concentrate in their early morning prayers in the Masjid , if it happened to be in earshot proximity to a Temple. You wouldn’t find anyone in the temple, even the monks were nowhere to be seen, probably asleep. The noise emanating from those hailers were either radio broadcast from SLBC, or previous recordings involving ceremonial drum beats, and Jayamangala Gathas, which were disgustingly disturbing to even the sleeping dwellers in the locality, since it goes on and on. Those worshippers – praying Muslims had no one to complain to, except to ask for divine intervention. Eventually, the competing noise decreased and finally stopped for whatever the reason. It was short lived. The Temple sources probably realized they couldn’t keep up or compete with the consistency and regularity of the Muslim prayer call, and finally gave up. This Islamic Prayer call from the Masjid has been in existence throughout the world from the Prophet’s time, and will pass on for generations to come, until the end of time and this world. To continue with the facts in this respect, soon after the Court Order was issued, Prayer call was banned in all the Masjids, however, permission was obtained and granted to broadcast the same prayer call, at the same stipulated times through radio, under the Muslim program. This however created a greater impact since it reached a far greater audience, by raising awareness of prayer times for Muslim men, women and children as well, who were not in earshot distance to the closest Masjid. Eventually the Court Order was amended to restrict the prayer call only to certain times of the day.
    The main thing to understand is that this Islamic Prayer call is not unique to Sri Lanka only, but it is being reverberated throughout the entire world 24 hours a day, every minute in every time zone. The effect can only be fully experienced and appreciated from outer space. As the world rotates, different time zones continuously keep changing and get updated, which means a prayer call (Azan) is due to be made on cue from every Masjids located within any time zone, five times a day. Be it early morning, mid-afternoon, early evening , late evening or early night. This process moves on repeating itself into the next consecutive time zone, and subsequently to the next time zone, eventually enveloping the whole world with a prayer call at every minute of its revolution. This same Islamic Prayer call has been in existence from the time of Abraham (Ibrahim in Arabic), soon after he built the first Ka’ba. But I don’t know enough to comment on its practice since that time to its present state. But what a great concept, and a brilliant idea, which could never be repeated in any shape, form or manner. Further, to realize that practicing Muslims are almost there, by spreading themselves to all corners of the world. Alhamdhu lillah (All praise is due only to Allah).

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      Iithizam, who invented the loud speakers? Is it a Muslim or the Almighty God Allah? Sounds funny is it not?

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        No, it does not sound funny at all. It only shows your capacity to understand. Apparently, you need explanation, for even what is obvious. Mike is not a necessity for prayer call if people are living close to the Masjid. All you have to do is announce the prayer call in loud tone. People who pray 5 times a day on a regular basis, and who know to read time, will come to the Masjid with or without hearing this call for prayer. In certain countries, this prayer call is heard only within the Mosque. Using mike for this purpose is relatively new. It is only a case of adapting technology to meet your needs. It is obvious that invention of mike, and its technology is man made, using god given intelligence. Such intelligence has taken man even to the moon.

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          Any Muslims in the Moon exploration team? Then how can you claim that it was Allah’s benevolence of granting intelligence when the team did not have any Muslims? Pathetic arguments indeed!

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        @Gamini
        There is temple in Hunupitiya Kelaniya who open their Bana at early morning 4-30 am in full volume in loud speakers, to compete the Muslim Azan, Bana continues for 30mts Azan finishes in 5mts, Does Buddhism says to recite Bana at 4-30 am.
        Still the practice continues even the Buddhist are irritated but they dont challenge the Temple.

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          @ Hade Sheriff, using of loud speakers for any Religion should be banned. Sound polution by Religions is a nuisance to society. It has no bearing what the Religion is, whether it is the Majority or minority.

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            I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU

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        You forgot to adhere to the panchasheela you promised the other day, Gammini?

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    Ilthizam may mean well but he has a poor case to argue. There is no dispute “religions have taught mankind to be peaceful in their co-existence, respect towards other religions, maintain high moral standards, recognize tolerance and patience as the greatest of virtues, provided guidance onto the straight path, and not of those who have been led astray, lead a complete, virtuous and fulfilling life” But the problem here is while this is true of all religions
    there are some that preach medieval violence, death by stoning, utter intolerance of those who have different views, bent on violent Global conquest etc – all of which is being fiercely resisted in the contemporary world. This is not “picking holes” but the real fact
    today. While you once again preach peace and love to children comes the story 120 innocent Afghan children poisoned in Bibi Haji in the Takidar Province of Afghanistan for the “sin” of going to school???

    Senguttuvan

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    Personally, my heart goes out to all those kids affected by this criminal act of one individual, acting under the name and banner of Taliban, and who also probably happened to be a Muslim. What a shame, some people cannot see the chaff from the grain. They come to lopsided conclusions based on prejudiced minds, manifested by some bad personal experiences in the course of a life time, or having utmost contempt upon a people and community who wish to be favored as God’s chosen few. I only have pity for them who are not willing to admit reality, realize what they are missing out on, and change for the better. Arguing for the sake of arguing will not help to fuel the thirst to learn more, but rather keep submerged in darkness. Now to get to your aspersions.
    Crimes committed against humanity and capital punishment by law for crimes committed are two different issues. But you classify both as one, to mislead the reader. There are many others like you in the world today, looking through a warped mind, needing constant guidance to think straight. Need I say more?
    Anyway, a criminal identified as a Taliban fighter (very similar to LTTE tactics), sprayed poisoned gas into a girl school, causing serious injury to both students and teachers. The latest is that thankfully they are all out of danger, but undoubtedly feeling disoriented. By any means, this is a criminal offence committed by a lone ranger, under the banner of Taliban, who should be smoked out and brought to justice. What you are trying to imply is similar to linking the LTTE terror outfit to innocent Tamil citizens, who belong to both Hindu and Christian faiths. There is big difference between the two my friend. The Taliban (although all Muslims) is a hard core terror outfit, which effectively needs to be crushed, and the rump needs to be rehabilitated. Their history, and beginnings are all over the internet, and I am not here to promote their cause. But sure, they just happen to be Muslims.
    The other factor that you portend is that Islam metes out medieval punishments, like stoning to death, cutting of hands, etc., etc. You may call it what you like, but Islam has withstood the test of time, and has not changed its Sharia Laws, to suit the whims and fancies of offenders, nor its administrators. What you consider to be ‘modern’ in terms pf human rights, women’s rights, children’s rights, animal rights, workers rights etc., stands unacceptable in Islamic Law. In my opinion, these so called ‘rights’ are framed to fulfill a desire of domination for some, and servitude for the rest. No real equality per se, but just a man-made sham. Presently, Sri Lanka is facing a crisis of domination by Human Rights activists who demand accountability and justice for what they claim ‘innocent lives’ lost, during the final phase of the war, in spite of the country enjoying peace for three years after war. But that is besides the point. You can google Sharia Laws, to understand what it is all about. I believe it has served its purpose. Lowest crime rates in the world. Mainly used as deterrent. In contrast, what do we do, crowd our prisons with criminals, feed them, keep them healthy, increase their exposure to become better criminals through intermingling, drug trading inside prisons, bribes, prostitution, private phone calls, the list goes on. The criminal knows he won’t be hanged, will serve his term, get a Presidential pardon on an auspicious day, integrate back into society with an increased level of criminal intent, waiting for the moment to make it big. Which would you prefer to be a better system. Now take your decision.

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      Iithizam, you claim that there is better Law and Order in the Middle East being Muslim countries, whereas in non Muslim Countries the seams are bursting of Prisons with convicts. The truth is in the Mid-East the majority accused are put to death so most of the Prisons are free of inmates. In these countries, people are frightened to commit crime not for the belief or love of Islam, but for the fear of uncivilised harsh punishment. Further you claim that Sharia Law never changes. Why what about the females being barred from Mosques then, today are permitted to attend prayers on the side accomodation. Civility creaping in slowly but surely as Islam is no exception to the Laws of Impermanance.

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        What nonsense. Convicts do serve time in prison. Not all are killed as suggested, just to prove your point as a reason for prisons being empty. Lower crime rate can neither be attributed for the love of Islam, but of course fear of committing them, due to stricter application of laws, added with severity in punishments. What is wrong with that, if that is what it takes to solve the problem and get the job done? Whether you or I like it, that is a different matter altogether. But here is a solution. Look at it objectively. If you get caught committing a crime, you cannot bribe the law officers and get away with it. In contrast to our country, where bribery and corruption is rampant, committed from the highest, sitting in judgment, to the lowest ranked officers, entrusted with implementing the law. However, your sarcasm knows no bounds. It would also be useful to note that it is mostly foreign labor immigrants who languish in those prisons. You can imagine why.
        You also mention that Sharia Law is being subverted, and now ladies are permitted to enter Mosques and listen to sermons on a side. If you want to point out loop holes in the application of these Laws in various countries, there can be so many violations, based on interpretations, sometimes may have nothing to do with Sharia compliance Laws, but based on different cultures and/or laws of the land, or even tribal laws. But the fact remains, there is a Law to govern the Umma (followers of the Islamic Faith), extracted from Quran and Hadiths (actions of the Prophet), and sooner or later issue will be raised, and everyone will just fall in line. These may be just one off cases, which cannot be considered major deviations, nor threats to the core practices in Islam.

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    There are questions,harder ones that are being asked by “stupid scholars” that need intelligent attention by all religionists.It’s being pointed out that even the central figures in major religions didn’t follow the religion that were spawned in their names.And if they didn’t swallow the prevailing “wisdom”about gods and spiritual leaders and such,why should you?

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    @gamini What I referred to was God given intelligence to mankind, not to Muslimss, thus mankind was able to use it to go the moon. It is obvious and common knowledge that no Muslims have yet been to the moon. You jump to conclusions without understanding the context, combined with a dose your own intelligence to decipher the message. Yes, of course it is pathetic when you consider the statement, given your level of intelligence. It is not about what I wrote, but what you managed to understand.

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      Iithizam, why should your God Allah give intelligence to non Muslims to debunk the theory of Islam and land on the moon, whereas he does not give intelligence to Muslims to shine over others. Besides you are trying to take credit for your God Allah of the intelligence of the Non Muslims who landed on the moon. What convoluted Logic you are proposing mate? You are accusing others of their minds being warped. But certainly yours is.

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        You don’t seem to have still understood the basics of how it works, or you want to create mischief. However, I will explain best as I can. God is God for all of mankind. Muslims call Him Allah. Other religions by other names. There is definitely a Creator of this whole universe, and everything upon it. You need to accept that to consider what follows, else that too needs further explanation. God sent down Prophets from time to time to guide mankind, when everything was going awry. He has given mankind all the freedom to decide on what is right and wrong, and to do the right thing and promised Paradise in the hereafter, and a place called Hell for those who purposely go astray, while the truth was staring at their faces. The same way, He has given the whole of mankind intelligence to use it to help mankind sustain himself through his journey on earth. This intelligence is irrespective of religion or creed. It was this God given intelligence which was collectively put to use (a combined effort of many scientists) to take man even to the moon, and open up new horizons. Unlock doors to His kingdom, to see the universe through a different perspective. All are His (God’s) creations, and people of all faiths given equal opportunities. He will not favor one community from another as all are His creations, except in our virtues and closeness to Him. But of course He does expects us to recognize Him, respect Him, and turn towards Him, make personal sacrifices for His sake, guide others towards Him through their own conviction, and as Muslims, – spread His word (Holy Quran – the last and Final Testament) and be Obedient to His will. Good or bad, it is coming from Him. Praise Him when it is good, when it is a bad event, ask forgiveness for our sins committed knowingly and unknowingly, be patient until the bad passes over and conditions change for the better. Anyway, I doubt this clears your doubts, because you seem to be on the look out for a purported slips. Genuine slips, acceptable. But for sake of arguments, dubious and mischievous.
        There is also a limit to God given intelligence to humans. We cannot go beyond a certain limit which He has established, unless we are close to Him through our Faith, Trust and Obedience, (probably like living saints – there are some even today, or Prophets). As for example, we cannot give life to the dead, create another human being without intervention of man and woman, take control of nature to prevent natural disasters, and many other such-like events. God is Supreme, Omnipotent, knows what is in our hearts (intentions) and intents of our actions, and He provides us guidance, security and protection from all harm and harmful effects, illness and ill-effects of witchcraft including soothsayers. Mankind will finally be judged on the Day of Judgement on all his worldly actions, and probably not on bad intentions (as they were only such – intentions), but definite rewarded for good intentions. Such is the Mercy of God (Allah).

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          @ Iithizam, you state that this Universe was definitely created by God to all mankind, whom the Muslims refer to as Allah and others refer as God. What is your proof to say so definitely, other than only a mythical belief. Is not that God created the Universe, but mankind like your ilk created God with blind belief.

          You further state that God from time to time sent Prophets to guide mankind, when things were going awry. For your information things have gone terribly awry, the world over for the last fifty years or so, where man has resorted in the name of Religion has robbed, killed, lied, cheated in an unimaginable scale ever in the history of mankind, without any shame and self respect including the clergy of all religions, the supposed self appointed guardians. Why has this God not sent any Prophet to date to guide and salvage the innocent. On the contrary this God of yours is helping these scoundrells to perpetuate crime in an unprecedent manner. Further acts of nature, which I presume you will attribute to God, have brought untold suffering on mankind, through Tsunamis, Earth quakes, Famine, Lightning and Epidemics where young innocent children too have been wiped out. So your Theory of God is unacceptable. Acts of Individuals or Nations cannot be left for Providence but should be dealt with according to Laws established for the purpose.

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        mr gamini
        if you are going to argue with a fool you become mad so pls keep a fool as fool to him self.
        in this world there is nothing humane canot do, every things is created by humans, not so called god. may be there are gods or god.
        but we believe they are among us, not anywhere else.
        IF you see many things are invented by Buddhist Chinese and Israelite Jews.presently they are the most powerful, wealthy, [earned money][]not oil thieves,]
        And the brainy people. But we lost the race, because mostly influence of foreigner traders from western , middle east and now filthy indians.

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          Senarath, I tend to agree with your stand. But as Humans we have a knowledge for reasoning. What I believe is, if we can get Animals to obey and adhere, why can not we get Humans to do the same with reasonable reasonning. However I admit, it appears that much easy to get the Animals to obey than put sense in to Humans. I had two lovable dogs, Rotweilers brought up like children who were perfect gentleman in every sense of the word, and communicated with me although unable to talk. So why can not the Humans?

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    @whywhy Exactly. It may sound insulting to some when spelt out in real terms, even arousing passionate feelings. Religion is a very intimate subject (close to the heart) and very personal. It has been conveyed down through the generations, and all hope has been pinned on this concept of God which everyone believes in, in some form or another. This is the crux of the matter. A forum like this is a good platform to raise such issues, simply because everyone is free to express their thoughts and feelings in a calm and collective manner.

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    @whywhy The quoted Quranic verse taken out of context. As usual, nit picking to create a fuss about nothing I said, but created out of your own imagination. This text was to let Christians know that Jesus did not die on the Cross. (Period). No one carries the burden of sins commmitted by others. To address the issue of Jesus died on the Cross for their salvation. (freeing them of sins). There is no such thing in Islam. When I say we are to blame for not doing enough, I do mean that. In this respect, blame does not connote sin, but rather guilt. Just replace the word ‘blame’ with ‘guilt’, and may make more sense. Feel better? Thanks but no thanks for lousy compliment. I don’t do it to please you nor anyone else, except to gain the pleasure of Allah.

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      This is not taken out of context and neither “nit picking” which is not
      my style but your perception surely and unfortunately.I’m using this forum to express my views on issues which I feel I got a point to draw the attention of like minded ones.It can be in support or defence.Not
      because I want to say something but I have something to say.But your
      agenda is selfishly distracting the readers from the subject.So you are perfectly fitting to the blames that you pass to others.Look at the way the focul point is diverted.

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    I can understand why we are a failed state. It’s because the Majority buddhist dont have a proper life style. the urine on the wayside. consume anything drinkabale, (kasippu, arrack etc)and start attacking who ever living respectfully since they dont have a life…

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    I can understand why we are a failed state. It’s because the Majority buddhist dont have a proper life style. they urine on the wayside. consume anything drinkabale, (kasippu, arrack etc)and start attacking who ever living respectfully since they dont have a life…

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      What you have said is part of the case here for sure and no wonder they
      become the GUARDIANS of a Great philosophy.

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    I am not against Muslims but if the law says not to have loud speakers befor 6.0 am they should abied by the law, But I see in most of the placers they seems to not care about the law. This also is anoing the other citizens, so they should not take every thing for granted, Even the other Religions. Preyar day who allowed them to park cars in tripal lanes? That too is high handed.

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    Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism adjust themselves to change as mankind evolves. Mahathma Gandhi and his colleagues made certain the ancient Hindu Sati tradition where the wife goes into a flamy death after the husband should be done away with. Christian/Catholic churches that conducted their mass in Latin yielded to Mass in the local languages. Decorations in the Church – exclusively reflecting Western orientation yeilded to local decorations.

    In recent times sensational judgements under Shariah Laws have been subject to global condemnation. There was the recent case in Afghanistan (and a similar one in India) where a young woman raped by an elderly Uncle went to the Shariah Courts for justice. The learned judges found her guilty of carrying his child, sentenced her to prison and ordered she become the wife of the old man. I am not denigrating another religion but I am only pointing out the outrage of the world to matters that are patently indefensible. The Salafists fear the advent of education in Muslim countries will challenge their strangle-hold on local societies and, therefore, education is discouraged as far as possible. How many proper schools are in that vast country Afghanistan? But there is resistance to this from the Islamic world itself. Much reformist thinking springs from the portals of the respected Al-Azahar University in Cairo – one of the oldest seats of higher learning in the world that began as a Madrasa over a thousand years ago. Egypt has lead the way in progressive thinking in the Islamic world. I would also suggest reading the editorials of the highly respected daily “Dawn” from Karachi – a fearless source against nonsense under religious garb. The essence of learning in all societies is where the learned risk their all to question those matters that create doubt. Martin Luther, Spinoza, Calvin et al in Western Europe questioned many aspects of the Catholic Church – at its high point – and introduced just and humane changes – something that is a tremendous tribute to Western liberalism, theology and justice. One must remember at that time questioning the Catholic Chburch was considered heresy and attracted the death penalty.

    There is some reference here to the call for prayers using loud-speakers. In the older world there was some justification where the attention of the faithful in various tribes in the desert – spread over hundreds of miles – was resorted to by high-pitched vocal calls. This gave way to loud speakers later. Today, wrist watches and other forms of time-keeping is available at hardly any cost and the faithful can gather easily without causing inconvenience to those of other religions in multi-religious societies. I know some friends of mine – leading Muslim lawyers and professionals in the country – know the validity of the argument but they are reluctant to come out openly and argue in the fear of Fundamentalists among them. To these any change from the norm is sacreligious. This is one more problem the Islamic society must adjust themselves to before it blows out of proportion.

    Senguttuvan

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      Senguttuvan, although some Muslims believe, just because some celebrities have embraced Islam that the fastest growing Religion is Islam, is only a figment of their Immagination. This is like when some of the Westerners become Buddhists, the Buddhists believe the whole West will become Buddhist in the near future. What wishful thinking? If only they know that with the present day education many are Intelligent to understand the TRUTH, whereas in the days gone by, the literate and the Intelligent were the Clergy and the masses were asses. Now it is different as the world is fast changing. It is like the God, the creator of Humans, first understood only Hebrew, then Latin and now he understand many other languages including Sinhalese, hence the sermons in all languages.

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        Gamini,do you know that leading western nations are marketing to
        INTELLIGENT muslims their most desired merchandise?INTELLIGENT
        buddhists and Hindus not spared as you said.Since each of this lot is at each others throat claiming victory,the seller finds easy exit without much hassle.Worst hit lot is,most adament one.
        The westerners dead sure of good economic results.It’s good business our politicos fail to capitalise and instead bring down
        upon them all woes.

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        DREAMS ARE FREE .KEEP DREAMING !!!!!!!!

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    I do not intend to ignite or douse the fires. Few facts for enlightenment only.
    The circumcision: Its widely practiced in modern world irrespective of religion. Jews and christian [orthodox] practice it elsewhere in the world.
    Religion: Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world not because of marrying or anything else. Research it and get to know the facts. Even after 9/11 the growth of Islam has increased in US and elsewhere in the world with Zionist propaganda machine working world over. I do not care who or why people get converted its an individuals right.
    My Opinion: There is no so called Islamic countries and all have some inclination towards various powers of the world as they are not at all governed by Islamic Sharia. If sharia law is implemented correctly, the kings of KSA etc. shall not be there to govern others. Religions/philosophies are for the individuals to understand and make them to govern themselves to achieve something for the life after death. There may be various ways but it should not disturb the others as a whole.
    Another fact I got to know from one of the practicing Buddhist is that the Lord Buddha statue came 100’s of years after the death of Buddha and its a creation that Buddha never ever preached.

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      THE ORIGIN OF BUDDHIST STATUES

      Why is the image of Buddha so important?

      When Buddha was still alive he never asked his followers to make statues or worship him in images. Instead he taught us to not have any attachment to anything – not even himself. Buddha said that the best way to worship him was to follow his teachings. And that after he passed away, after his “Nippana” or “Nirvana”, his teachings would take his place.

      100 years later some of his followers wondered how Buddha looked. They prayed to an angel who used to meet Buddha. Then the angel appeared in Buddha’s image, and so the first Buddha statues were created. Since then Buddha statues have become a key element for most Buddhists around the world are reminded of his compassion, kindness and his teachings and feel the highest regard for him.

      Some show respect, others behave with ignorance.

      This summary might help you understand how you (should) can treat Buddha’s images appropriately.

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    i posted a comment which was deleted by the moderator this is the problem we cant tell anything against islam , but those guys will destroy other religons ,, atleast remember the barmian buddha statues whicy they destroyed …. i didnt not write anything bad just said my opinion..

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    Priests from any religion to be debarred from entering Paeliament.The proposed amendment will debar any political party or group from nominating a priest. Positive steps in right direction..

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      sri lanka is a sinhala buddhist – hindu nation.. traders who came from arab practised a [Edited out] religon

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        All the religions are adopted by SL people, not only Islam, Asoka brought Buddhism to SL, Hinduism from South India. Islam from Arab traders, Christianity from missionaries

        Muslims are not arab traders, they are Srilankans who were converted to Islam

        The indeginous people from Sri Lanka are veddas who had some natural religions

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          vasu arabs married local women that is either sinhalese or tamil women .then they were converted .. this is the story in every country that has happend with the muslim invasion.they marry the local women and make them muslim .. then slowly invade the rest of the land ……

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    common wat is this web site why editing the trueth?

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      sena,lying in outrage is not truth.Shall I tell you a real truth?Now look,who discovered America?We were taught it was Columbus,right?But
      Columbus said there were people in there when he discovered America.Do
      you know their whereabout today and who are modern day Americans?Did we muslims/arabs do that to you?Do you eat Watalappan?Biriyani?Maskat?
      drink Faluda?Sharbet?Do you get indigenous treatments for your ailments?We gave them to you.From India we brought Palayakat to you men and Sarees for your beautiful girls and also a big bonus we married these girls without taking a single cent dowry!!!You didn’t know what to do with sweet smelling spices and we took them to our ancestors and most of all,we taught your pretty ones muslim martial arts.The moderator knows all this and may be that’s why he used red pen on you.

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    some uneducated ppl say there should be some to create this world ..that is god.. but again there should be some to create that god ,,, bec how can he exist ,,, so dont goto find the beginning of this world..

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    It is not only Buddhists who urinate ih the roads and drink arrack.
    The poor in other communities do too.

    As to the false claim the practise of male circumcision is a Muslim invention, the fact is the Jews – whose religion precedes Islam by several millenia – began this and continue it to the day. The Christians followed in the beginning as well. The savage Female genital mutilation is followed still in many African-Middle Eastern societies to the horror of the modern world.

    The reference and criticism of certain queer practises of some religions in this column is not to target specific religions for unfavaouble scrutiny but to provoke a discussion so that the more liberal and learned in the religions concerned use their influence
    to look at matters in the right perspective.

    Senguttuvan

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    The claim here by a few, of growing acceptance of Islam in the world is, in my opinion,not generated through proper research and analysis and on the contrary misleading the muslims into turning a blind eye to the slow death of its core values.If you agree that there’s another side to every story,then there’s no chance you escape this side.All the cut-outs are coming mainly from the US,UK France,Australia and another one or two exceptions.What makes me suspicious is,why not Russia,Italy,Poland,Brazil,Venezuela,Nicaragua,Cuba?Why?Islam has not seen south america in any era and don’t they need our light?My worry is,muslims,because of their lack of self criticism and intolerance of religious critcism,are negligent and easy deceived.It’s also very unfortunate that some preachers fail to realize that the powerful nations shed their religious fervour for free thiking and this is also a major factor that makes our VERY INTELLIGENT propagators to claim that we are winning which is not simply true.The truth is countries are in forward march,shedding hurdles in any form.Finally to conclude I would like to quote a news item that reported there are neary 25000 students who travel annually to the US alone for education.Wonder what they bring back to their country?Islam?

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      here why why every one knows the intension of muslims they invade other countries and marry the local women and then want to make the whole land muslims. for that if they have to shed blood they l do that too..[Edited out] .. this is the truth ..now dont delete this moderator…

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    Chief Sanganayake Thera of Great Britain, monk Pahalagama Somaratne sentenced for 7 years in Jail for indecent assault and rape of 16 year old child. He is also banned for working with children for life and his name is added to sex offenders register for life. What is going on? Could this lead to an avalanche or is it just be the tip of an iceberg? In my opinion, true celibate monks are rare to find unless beyond a certain age, where greed and lust is a thing of the past. It is always a challenge to temptations to keep oneself in check. No one should be allowed to go through this experience. Specially under religious pretext. They have already lost the public respect that merits their stature. This is why in some religions, intermingling of sexes is prohibited in places of religious worship.

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    sinhala buddhist pls [Edited out]
    protect our land and our religion and our heritage…..

    what happened to barmian buddha statues in afgan??????

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    sinhala buddhist ppl pls see wat has happned to kurugala – devanagala – deegavapi – pothuvil – anuradhapura – now dambulla— …
    [Edited out].see what these muslims do to our religion and to our heritage/.

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      Hey foul mouth, you laments are on sites which belong to Muslims and Hindus. Now you refer to as lost Sinhala heritage sites. What good will it do for you by you taking it over? You will just either block it and sell it off, make some more money, or sit on it, and make money from tourists who visit those sites. Either way, you want lands for economic reasons, not for religious purpose, as if there aren’t enough sites already established. Don’t be selfish. Live and let live should be the policy, not live and let others perish. All Sri Lanka is multi-cultural and multi-ethnic. Sri Laanka cannot survive on its own without support from International community, which includes Hindu (Indian), Muslim (Arab) and Christian (all Western block including USA, World Bank, IMF etc.) Your politicians rob from the enormous wealth given by these countries to the development of the country and its people. Without them, this country with only be left with the ‘begging bowl’ mentality, that Buddhist monks practice, picking up bits and pieces of what is on offer. with no selection or choice.

      You think that this Forum is like Facebook and other similar social websites, where you can spill your guts out with raw,filthy propaganda and racist views, with no respect for others nor their sentiments. You and your gang are better off keeping out of this turf.

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        i will talk of truth whether its a muslim web site or not..i have no issues with hindus or christians or any other religion except one religion which i suppose u belong… this is a sinhala – tamil – buddhist – hindu land…….

        u all can go back to arab …what to u mentally retarted ppl do to non muslims there ???

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        why should nt i stop telling the truth ? u think im scared for ppl like u who believe in a non existing image.. go back to the cave age and go and live in an uncivilized country where fools like u live.(majority of fools live in arab )

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          Sena,I think something terribly not smooth in you.Now look,we have
          a justice minister to deliver justice between Sinhala and Tamil
          people when they are in trouble with each other!Your govt didn’t want to trust anyone else for this job so appointed a muslim which
          is great.Why don’t you go to him with your arab sinhala case and get some real relief?Why waste time here all the time putting your
          neck at moderator’s guillotine?

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        btw fool head the comment u made “Live and let live should be the policy, not live and let others perish” what do u ppl do to non muslims live in countries like pakistan , bangladesh , indonesia ….etc ..hindus and buudhists are killed …..

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    “Priests from any religion to be debarred from entering Parliament.The proposed amendment will debar any political party or group from nominating a priest. Positive steps in right direction” So rejoices
    Ilthizam (June 01) Many of us agree with him. But it was only the other day he was preaching all of us in the many proper and purely religious ways his “Brothers” do things. But what is the situation in one of the most powerful and old Islamic countries in the world – Iran (Persia)? Iran has throughout made a claim to lead the Islamic world – though resisted by others because the Iranians are Shiites. Ali Khomeini today is right in the centre of their Parliament there and leads the political system.
    It was these Ayatollahs who lead Iran in a destructive War against their Brothers – the Iraqis, where nearly 2 million were slaughtered for many years. They indiscriminately used Chemical weapons on each other – while remaining signatories under the Vienna International Atomic Energy CommissionConventions guaranteeing to prohibit their use. They broke all their pledges without blinking an eyelid. Today, they have no compunction in threatening to destroy Israel and its millions by the use of nuclear weapons – which, if used, can also harm many countries around – which have no connection with the Iran-Israel dispute. What utter irresponsibility and medieval-like.

    We hope Ilthizham will use his learning and peaceful intentions to tell his Brothers in Iran to stay away from dirty politics.

    Senguttuvan

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      It is an accepted fact that the laity who enters priesthood of any religion do so as a vocation and not through compultion of commitment of the belief of the particular faith. Thereafter they dabble in politics for advantage and compromise with corrupt Politicians. This back scratching between the Rulers and the clergy had been in practise from the days of Monarchies. Today, not only they extend their help to the Corrupt Rulers, but are wanting to become the Rulers themselves, seeing the limitless opportunity.

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        Gamini,Muslim clergy in Srilanka,is not in politics.They are being
        dragged into part-time politics by the rulers of both hues as a
        display of their power of interfering in our religious affairs.
        Otherwise they are happy where they are but free as everyone else.
        In my memory,Premadasa was more involved in visiting mosques and
        getting our Moulavis to bless him,breaking traditions.This in my
        view brought out only one case from our community.So,generalising
        is not fair.In contrast,Budhist monks have made it their business leaving their religious obligations to Abiththayas!Religions are right or not is one question but they are operating to spread vice, is another.In this background,it’s a bold step to introduce a bill to stop this vicious group from hijacking the highest office for their malicious propaganda.May be Allah has started to respond to llthizam’s Duas(supplication or prayer).

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          there is no1 to listen to llthizam’s Duas.. because there is no1 exist as u mention.. people who r living in cave age r the ppl who believe like u….

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          THERE IS NO CLERGY IN ISLAM.

          “MOULAVIS” ARE NOT CLERGY

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      SenguTuan, as usual, here you go again, with all your wires crossed. Bull in a China Shop, may be? Ha, ha. Although you expose a superior level of expertise on every issue under scrutiny, (you should be at the United Nations, as advisor to Secretary General, and helping him make hurried and half-baked decisions, not exposing it in DT). I still maintain that there are obviously no tangible evidence, nor verifiable facts to be drawn, that could be used as lessons to be learnt. You seem to thrive or may be derive pleasure from human sorrow. The fact of the matter being, you link a simple news statement which I had written regarding sacred monks debarred from doing politics in the local scene, to the ‘Grand Sheikh of Iran’ and his dirty politics. Obviously you are cognizant of the fact that Sunni’s don’t consider the Shias as ‘Brothers-in-Islam’ and they, mutually reciprocate. If not, so much for your knowledge on geo-politics. Arm chair critics like you, are just that, with nothing to contribute positively, nor anything beneficial to society at large, but flourish in criticizing others, who make feeble attempts to chide those from darkness to light and help improve their lot. Go ahead Sengu, make my day.

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    I will ignore the personal abuse this Ilthizam throws here and take him on a very basic factor of Islam where he grievously errs here. “Sunnis don’t consider Shias as Brothers-in-Islam” is a comment that can only spring from an ignorant Muslim mind. In Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, the Maghreb, South Africa (considered liberal Islamic socities) where both communitieas live together they were at blissful peace for centuries until the recent advent of Fundamentalism. Even inter-marriages were common. In India and Pakistan too. One of the main Islamic groupings that kept exclusively to themselves were the Khojas – from the sub-continent and then later on went to influence the Indo-Pak communities in East Africa where they are leading businessmen and educationists.

    In Sri Lanka, until recently, most Muslims did not know their religion well. Even now, the average Muslim does not know the difference between the Sunnis and Shiites. Some of them even name their children as Ali – an essential Shiite symbol. Does Ilthizam know why our Muslims prefer to call them Sunnas and not Sunnis? I don’t claim to be an expert on Islam but I do know a lit more than the average Muslim.

    Tku for the advise I should be Advisor to the SG-UNA. At least now, you are beginning to see the light.

    Senguttuan

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      Fully agree with you and hats off.

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      THE SH’EEAH ARE THE FIRST BREAKAWAY GROUP FROM ISLAM.The religion of the Shiah was founded by a Jew from Yemen called Abdullah bin Saba’. This religion has started with the assassination of the rightly guided Khalifa Uthman and branched into many sections.

      Khalifa Uthman ruled for twelve years. The first six years were marked by internal peace and tranquility, but during the second half of his caliphate a rebellion arose. The Jews and the Magians, taking advantage of dissatisfaction among the people, began conspiring against Khalifa Uthman and by publicly airing their complaints and grievances, gained so much sympathy that it became difficult to distinguish friend from foe.

      It may seem surprising that a ruler of such vast territories, whose armies were matchless, was unable to deal with these rebels. If Khalifa Uthman had wished, the rebellion could have been crushed at the very moment it began. But he was reluctant to be the first to shed the blood of Muslims (especially Sahâbah), however rebellious they might be. No one would ever expected what happened later. He preferred to reason with them, to persuade them with kindness and generosity. He well remembered hearing the Prophet Muhammad say, “Once the sword is unsheathed among my followers, it will not be sheathed until the Last Day.”

      The rebels demanded that he abdicate and some of the Companions advised him to do so. He would gladly have followed this course of action, but again he was bound by a solemn pledge he had given to the Prophet. “Perhaps God will clothe you with a shirt, Uthman” the Prophet had told him once, “and if the people want you to take it off, do not take it off for them.” Khalifa Uthman said to a well-wisher on a day when his house was surrounded by the rebels, “God’s Messenger made a covenant with me and I shall show endurance in adhering to it.”

      After a long siege, the rebels broke into Khalifa Uthman ‘s house and murdered him. When the first assassin’s sword struck Khalifa Uthman , he was reciting the verse: “Verily, God sufficeth thee; He
      is the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing” [2:137]

      NOW THE SHEE’AH HAVE DIVIDED INTO SEVERAL GROUPS

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    people remeber this is a buddhist – hindu country which mainly belongs to sinhalese and tamils.. people who belong to sharia law can go back to their caves and let us live here peacefully..

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    The present danger in all these new uprisings is that public emotions are whipped up by cunning, insidious and lethally dangerous vested-interest groups which use people’s popular emotions to gain their nefarious objectives.

    Sri Lanka has generally been a peaceful country where all races and religions co-existed with brotherly love and good neighbourliness. (perhaps with the exception of the war in the north and east where things got far out of hand due largely to political incompetence)

    Users of this forum would do well not to engage in personal attacks and villification campaigns. Usually it is the villifier who shows up as a rotten branch each time he spills foul-smelling invective.

    While respecting the laws of the land, all people who feel inclined to abuse must first educate themselves on facts, not by believing the first thing they hear, but by diligent effort, and look at things from several angles.

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    With much interest I read these comments on Religions pro and contra.
    As a Sri Lankan, I am very sad to notice that so many have gone to extremes in religions concerned.

    When we were children and were living in Sri Lanka, we never had any difference between Buddhits, Hindus, Muslims or Christians. My wife is
    Katholic and my best friend is a Muslim and I am a Buddhist but we never ever critized another Religion. Religions are not selected by our own but have to believe because we were born to parents of different Religions. So, the Religion has nothing to do when we come to the point of living togetgher. If we are divided, we will never raise our heads as a nation.

    Cyril

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