By Colombo Telegraph –
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After the Dambulla Mosque incident, Muslim organizations met with a few very senior Muslim lawyers to discuss possible legal action. Various options were discussed. But all the Muslim organizations told the senior lawyers that they should avoid going before the Supreme Court. Informed sources told Colombo Telegraph that Muslim organizations are likely to file an application in the Court of Appeal.
“So much for the independence of the judiciary and people’s confidence in the judiciary” a senior lawyer told Colombo Telegraph.
Naufer / May 11, 2012
Is is because that unprincipled power-hungry Rauf Hakeem is Minister of Justice that we Muslims are scared for go to the highest court in the Land!? Shows the level of the Muslims community’s confidence in our own representative!
This is a joke that we no confidence in Mahinda Rajapakse’s book-licking Minister of Justice Rauf Hakeem who it seems would sell his mother for some grains of power and make any sort of back room deal to stay in power. The track record of Hakkeem and most of the eastern Province Muslim MP is one of TOTALLY UNPRINCIPLED politics.
Time has come to demand younger, educated and principled people to represent the Muslim community and stop blaming Sinhalas and Tamils for all the problems of the Muslims!
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Jim Hardy / May 11, 2012
Exactly confidence in our Judiciary has eroded to the lowest ebb.
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gamini / May 11, 2012
It is no wonder the senior Muslims who are breaking bread with MR do not want to take the matter up in Court as it will expose the biased Judiciary in the country and leave MR in a predicament. it is a damn shame for these Muslims who are even cheating their own Almighty Allah who appears impotent after all.
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Ahamed / May 11, 2012
Allah never comes out and fights for Islam. It is always only the Muslims who protect Islam with the unseen help of Allah. If the fight is won, it is concluded that Allah helped them. If it is lost, then it is concluded that Allah is testing or punishing the Muslims through that defeat. Muslims are used to struggles and they believe that one day everybody in this world will be Muslim. This believe totally contradicts with the Buddhist/Hindu theory of rebirths.
Shall we ask those Muslims and Buddhists/Hindus who are willing to sacrifice their lives for their religion to gather somewhere and fight it out for a solution? (copied from 23rd Pulicasi comedy). At least the rest will be safe.
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whywhy / May 11, 2012
Ahamed, Gamini wants something sensational, like for instance Allah vs Buddha.Did you go that far?
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w.m.k.Samarasekara / May 16, 2012
WHY SENOUR MUSLIM LAWYERS RELUCTION TO GO TO CAURTS.
Because nothing but they aware if they go to caurt it might prove that they illegally encrouched in sacreat dambulla viharay’s property and it may leads an unfavourable decision as they they got KOORAGALA.
What happend in KOORAGALA buddhist anciant temple.Here too muslims placed same card.Finally they changed name of the place as DAFTAR JEILANEE. What was the court order in this regard? The court rejected their claims and order to exple them from KOORAGALA anciant site. Name of the defendents are MOHAMED CARDER SAIBU and AHAMED JAWARD The judment date is 20.04.2012.
samarasekara
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whywhy / May 11, 2012
Gamini,don’t panic.You are still in the era of C T B monopoly.We now
have buses at a blink of an eye.You think a green bus will take them all?
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whywhy / May 11, 2012
GAMINI,
ISLAM IS A RELIGION,CIVILIZATION,CULTURE AND POLITICS.READ “ARABS IN
HISTORY” BY B.LEWIS,A SPECIALIST IN M.EAST AND A LECTURER AT CAMBRIDGE.
Our islam by muslims of SLK is moderately and intelligently and above
all very tactfully played by everyone.We know lot of people want them
on the streets.Muslims know when to do what.Take your lesson from the
first two lines if you want to/teach the world the little you know.
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gamini / May 11, 2012
As I have often repeated, all religions that exists today are only a couple of thousand years old, whereas mankind had existed for tens of thousands of years prior, long before the birth of all these Religions. Man’s quest for a Religion was born down the line. Thus I will leave it to the readers to evaluate whether God created Man or Man created God.
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Rahmathullah / May 12, 2012
Mr. Gamini your assumption that all religions are only few hundred years old while mankind exist in this planet from millions of years ago is a misunderstanding. According to Islam, the first man on earth Adam was a Muslim and a Prophet. Prophet Mohamed was the last in line of Prophets and he completed the mission.
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gamini / May 12, 2012
Rahmathullah, as you state according to Islam the first man on earth was a Muslim and a Prophet. Let me put the record straight. The early world was inhabited by the Neanderthal man. Then there were the Homo Erectus, Homo Habilis and the Homo Sapians. We are believed to be the offspring of the Homo Sapians who lived in the savana. Down the line of human civilisation there have been many a language developed by man that many have gone into disuse, including the languages through which these Religions have been discovered. A lingua Franca was developed by man. If God had created any human being, then he would have given a language as well. It is not the case. It is man who developed languages and not God for your information. How could one man, created by God have four blood groups common to all mankind today? Obviously there has to be many as the case was. I personally do not object any to believe in whatever faith they uphold. The problem arises when Religion is forced on the young, just because the parents believe so. This is specially true of Mulims who force it on their young, more than other Religions.
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Rahmathullah / May 15, 2012
Mr. Gamini, you assume and conclude everything on history and science, which have weak foundation. Do you know in many of the states in US the theory of evolution has been forbidden one to be taught to children? Do you know there are different types of dialects in one language? The English spoken by British is different from English practised by Americans. Even in USA, from one state to another you can see the vast difference in the way people speak English. So, do not conclude people descended from one person cannot have many languages. It is also same in the case of blood group.
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gamini / May 15, 2012
Rahmathullah, going by your own theory that the first Human on this planet was a Muslim and he was Adam, How is it that there are so many other beliefs and Religions today? If the first human was a Muslim, then there should be only Muslims today. Was Adam circumsiced? Did he do it himself? How did Adam produce offspring without a spouse, because according to Islam there is no mention of Eve. You state that History and Science has weak foundations. The Fact is that Islam and all Religions have very weak foundations. It is not a misunderstanding but a fact that all existing Religions are only a couple of thousand years old, whereas mankind had lived tens of thousand years before that and there have been many Religions and beliefs. Ranahthulla without blindly believing in Islam read a bit of hisory. No wonder with Muslims as you, you all are nothing but fanatics. You are no different to some of the Sinhalese who believe a Lion fathered their Race. If it has any truth, then all the Sinhalese are Buggers.
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gamini / May 11, 2012
Whywhy, circumcission was there long before Islam was born for your information. It was a belief that circumcission enables for the erectile of the penis to remain for a longer period with the tightening of the skin at the base of the prepuce. Muslims obviously adopted the practise because of Jihad, where many a male died at holy wars and was out numbered by the females. In order to propergate the Muslim societies where the male population was depleted, a man was permitted to have more than one wife to bridge the ratio and for repeated copulation, circumcission has been resorted to and adopted as a Muslim Practise thereafter. Otherwise why should man tamper with God’s creation believing that God created man? If Almighty thought the prepuce was not necessary, then he would have created man without the prepuce. Is it not?
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whywhy / May 12, 2012
Gamini
Have I said anything about circumcision anywhere here Gamini?You
look you have done some research about God and Religion which is
very good.But please stick to the point.Anyway,let me make my
position clear on your question.Circumcision is not muslim’s sole property,and neither the belief in GOD.History has so far managed only to dig up about five thousand years of religious existance mainly in Egypt, Persia and India.Scholars believe that Islam has most trustworhy records of events due to its position as the last religion with most trackable access.People all over the world do believe in God for reasons not even known to them.If you are interested in sports,watch Maria Sharapova of Russia in action and you will find her CROSS in her necklace.Obama who ordered the killing of Osama, is a regular church goer.In Mecca itself Arabs have had 360 Idols for worship by different groups of Arabs.What Prophet Muhammad did was,bringing all those Arabs uunder one God Allah.Thus,Muhammad is considered by many scholars as a reformer.
The problem is, God’s followers who don’t understand God.Not coming to grip with daily advancing knowledge.Gamini,Digital Tv is advanced than the analogue Tv?That’s what Islam to other religions.LATEST VERSION.
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Rahmathullah / May 16, 2012
Mr. Gamini, I understand that you have a very weak knowledge about Islam. According to Muslim and Christian beliefs, the Adam was created first and then the Eve. Both were sent down to earth from heaven. Your argument that why there are so many religions now when the first couple on earth were Muslims is absurd. Even now you see children from the same family follow different religions and some even start new religions. Psychologically speaking, no two human beings can be 100% identical in thoughts and behaviors. You may be an atheist but, I make a friendly request you to devote some time to study Islam. There are many websites available. I request you to visit Mr. Yusef Estesse website on Islam, where you can have complete answers for all your misgivings about Islam. Remember, Quran is the only religious book, which could not be disproved by science till now.
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w.m.k.Samarasekara / May 16, 2012
Dear friend Ramahatulla,
According to your coment that appered this blod is ADAM was the first muslim man.I am affraid muslims are claming the ownership or ADAMSPEAK(sripadaya) in this basis. Is this correct?
samarasekara
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whywhy / May 16, 2012
Dear Samarasekara,
the rock is Siripada for you,SIVANOLIPATHA MALAI for Hindus,
BAWA ADAM MALAI for Muslims and Internationally known as ADAM’S
PEAK.It’s three-in-one.You ask from one God and get from three!
Say chees now and stop calling people to bother you.
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gamini / May 16, 2012
Rahmathulla, It is not I who is confused but you. The Quran was not written by God but by man. The written word was developed long after speach was discovered. At the rate you indulge in belief you will someday in the future, will claim the Computer too was invented by your God. All paper and writing instruments, pens, pencils were invented by man and not by God. Thereafter with your type of believers the quran was written and so is the Bible or the Mahawamsa.
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hansan / May 11, 2012
You will just die and you will go to placers where you have to go, You will not take the properties , Mosques, Religion or sex and money with you to show the next place when and if you go , You only are fighting to live mind fully may be 20 or thirty years. Balance is either you are a kid or a elder. Leave the others to live in this world peacefully, as the new world is too diveloped to think what religion say, and no time to think about any thing other than finding to meet ends to live and for food. So just live and let live friends.
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whywhy / May 11, 2012
hansan boy,just at 5.14am,you were busy shedding tears at the other end
for the loss of budhist statue in Afghanistan and at 5.29am,here we go,
what a godly servant!A complete transformation!THE ANGEL OF NEW WORLD ORDER.lookafter yourself boy!Time up for school.
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Pandukabaya de Silva / May 12, 2012
THIS IS JUST A REFLECTION OF HOW THINGS ACTUALLY ARE – NOT ONLY FOR MUSLIMS BUT ALL RIGHT THINKING PEOPLE. THE SUPREME COURT WILL NOT DELIVER JUSTICE!
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gamini / May 12, 2012
Pandu, I do not think even during the King’s time the society has been this servile as today. The Professional and the Academic body is nothing but a damn disgrace to the whole society. I believe if the titles the intelligentia boasts off, is tied to the necks of the domestic canines, they will do a better job.
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roshan / May 12, 2012
Many people would not have noticed that failed attempt by the government to introduce a Bill to amend the Town and Country Planning Ordinance which would have given our erstwhile Minister for Buddha Sasana and Religious Affairs immense powers over private property. The move got scuppered by the Supreme Court ruling that the Bill could not become law unless it was referred by the President to every Provincial Council, making it virtually impossible for the Bill to become law. The government withdrew the measure in April this year.
If it had become law, it would have been possible for the Minister to declare any area as a Sacred Area.
Not long after the Bill was withdrawn we witnessed the attack on the Dambulla mosque and the Minister. It does not take rocket science to draw the inference that the two introduction of the Bill and the attack are part of a move orchestrated by the government and some extreme elements within the country led by the clergy to undermine minority religions.
It was reported some days ago that Mufti Rizwi announced to an audience in some foreign country that the government is taking measures to solve the problem. Mr Azwar has said something to the same effect in Parliament. Watching the manner of the latter’s loud interventions in parliament compels one to the conclusion that ‘his bark is worse than his bite’. He makes up for the lack of substance in what he says by saying it very loud.
The Mufti appears to be well suited for carrying the ‘torch’, as evidenced by his role in inviting the President for the opening of a mosque in N Eliya.
The community is in such a pass because of people like the good Mufti and the Minister.
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AYMAN / May 28, 2012
“ASS”WER,IS A PRESIDENTIAL ADVISOR . HE WAS PICKED UP BY PRESIDENT PREMADASA AS AN INTERPRETER.MOST OF THE TIME HE WAS NOT INTERPRETING,PREMADASA’S WORDS BUT JUST SAYING WHAT HE WANTED.I WONDER
WHAT HIS QUALIFICATIONS ARE. HE USED TO BE “SCORER” AND “BALL-PICKER”
ON THE BOUNDARY LINE OF MOORS S.C.CAME TO POLITICS THRO’UNP.
A “LONG JUMPER” LIKE MANY OTHERS.I CHALLENGE HIM TO CONTEST IN AN
ELECTION.MOST OFMUSLIM M.PP ARE “JUMPERS” AND “TRAPEZE” ARTISTS.
AS FOR RIZWIE, HE IS A “MUTFI”. THERE ARE MUFTIS ONLY IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES-HE IS SELF APPOINTED
HE WOULD SAY ANYTHING,WHAT THE GOVERNMENT WANTS, JUST LIKE “NIYAS” OF
A BYGONE ERA.
ALLAH AND HIS PROPHET WARNED THE MUSLIMS NOT ABOUT “THE UNBELIEVERS”
BUT HYPOCRITES. THE UNBELIEVERS OPENLY OPPOSED ISLAM, WHEREAS “HYPOCRITES” PRETENDED TO BE MUSLIMS, UNDERMINING THE COMMUNITY,
FROM WITHIN.THEY ARE LIKE “VIRUSES”,WHICH MULTIPLY AND ULTIMATELY DESTROY THEMSELVES. SO BE IT.
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Senguttuan / May 13, 2012
Rahmatulla – “the first man was a Muslim”??? To what levels cranks
take religion to these days where they have made religion also “a business”
Judaism started many millenia ago. The Mountain, the Holy Book,
Fasting, abstinence from eating port (due to an outbreak at some point of time when most people were ignorant and would not understand medical advise) are features copied from the Hebrew heritage by other religion in the then Middle East – and that too after many millenia. Sanatana Dharma a.k.a. Hinduism is just as antique. But I don’t think the Jews and the Hindus will sink to the foolish extent of claiming their religion is the oldest, most superior, “special” and other such nonsense.
The National Question in Ceylon/Sri Lanka was and is based on language.
Never on religion. The Sinhalese and Tamil-speaking people, hopefully, will settle their differences soon. Merely parroting the name of the leader of a religion 24hrs a day does not make one religious, pious or good – while engaging in all other villainy the rest of the time.
Learned Muslim Lawyers (and indeed there are some good ones) have rightly advised the matter should not be referred to higher Courts.
It can do more harm, outside, than good is patently clear. The environment is pretty charged – sadly.
Senguttuvan
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whywhy / May 13, 2012
Senguttuvan,
In such a haste to take on Rahmathullah,one is made to wonder whether
the world has more than 24hrs in the new world order!Pls get back to
“Merely parroting….
Thanks.
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whywhy / May 13, 2012
please read as “24hrs a day”
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rodhan / May 13, 2012
This response should have appeared in the Transcurrent site which has published a comment by Minister Champika Tanawaka titled “Ayodha and Dambulla”. Restating the question that was posed to him by an Indian journalist, namely “Was the JHU directly involved in the attempt to remove the Dambulla mosque?” he goes on to answer this question stating that “the prayer hall in question had been built without obtaining permission from either the Ministry of Religious Affairs or the Urban Development Authority.”
Note the word “prayer hall”. He fails to mention the fact that it is a “mosque” and that it has been in existence for decades, even before the area was declared sacred. He wants us to believe that permission had to be obtained from the Ministry of Religious Affairs or the UDA. The mosque required no such permission.
He says that he takes “great care when answering questions posed by Indian journalists now.” I wonder why?
He then states that “the riots of July 1983 occurred as the then government did not enforce the law. It was more a case of a complete breakdown in law and order. If not, we would not see so many Tamils back in Colombo and suburbs within a few months of the disturbances.”
Mr Ranawaka has conveniently forgotten to mention the provocative role played by the saffron brigade and many leading politicians within the government in the period leading up to the July 1983 events and their active participation in what happened then, and the fact that they behaved as if they were above the law. Law and order was not enforced because of the involvement of people connected to the government whose names are too well known to require any mention. He also fails to mention the many who left the shores of the country and never returned.
Referring to the Dambulla incident he says that the JHU position is that the Dambulla issue was one for the government. He does not say what he wants the government to do.
He then goes on to explain that “in April 1981, PM Premadasa gazetted the Dambulla Raja Maha Vihara urban development area. On June 28, 1984, then Minister of Lands Gamini Dissanayake brought these lands under the government. On March 24, 1994, Minister Sirisena Cooray took steps to redevelop the Dambulla sacred area. It was this situation that the Asgiri maha nayaka thera and chief incumbent of Dambulla Raja Maha Viharaya tried to explain.”
He does not explain the need for declaring an area as sacred. What justification is there for reserving large tracts of scarce land in a small country to develop it for the exclusive benefit of one community? The good Minister has failed to explain why no action has been taken against the mob that attacked the mosque even though it was a criminal act punishable under the Penal Code?
Of course, he omits to mention that the authorities have failed to enforce the law, in the same way for similar reasons that law was not enforced in 1983.
It would have been better if Mr Ranawaka did not open his mouth.
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NAK / May 18, 2012
The reason minister Ranawaka did’nt call it a mosque because it is not a mosque. It is only a tin shed. The people of the area who used it for prayers said themselves,that it is not a mosque but a prayer house and that house has been the home of one Uduma lebbe sixty odd years back. Further it is only made of tin amano colour bonded sheets and again those people said they did it that way in order to dismantle and move when the need arises. You don’t have to take my word for these,all these are on you tube on many videos by Derana Tv.
of course you have to obtain building permits wether it is mosque, church or Kovil.
The Buddhist monks you call ‘saffron brigade’ had nothing to do with the 1983 events. It was purely polically motivated and executed.
Will you not claim ownership to a property that comes to you from your ancestors for generations? Thats the same way the temples get their land and the ownership of these lands preceed the present deed system introduced by the westerners but even the invaders respected their ownership.
The need for declaring the land a sacred area is because Dambulla temple is an historic cave temple recognized even by the the UNESCO as a world heritage. Even if you leave all that aside, it is their land and if you challenge that there is only one place to do it. The district court. Wether you have trust in it or not is a different matter but that is the only place to resolve land matters unless you do it amicably.
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whywhy / May 18, 2012
Ok Nak,fair enough.Even your own sum up shows that this could have
been very amicably sorted out.What did Minister Tennakoon say?Same
out come.How should a mosque look like,what it should be made out
of or where it shoul be and should not be and whether legal or
illegal, put all these aside.What’s the need for a monk of this
stature to get down to the level he came down on that historic day?The role of the police?The action of the prime minister?Mute
of other Chief monks?NAK,It is a MOSQUE.For Champika it can even be a congregation hall but for muslims it’s a mosque.Has Champika
condemned the criminal behaviour of this monk anywhere,as a member of our supreme legislative body?The world is watching the
actions of very smart people who are sowing the seeds of racism in the name of false budhism.
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Don / May 15, 2012
This is our herritage
Teravada Mahavihara destroyed in 3rd century AD
By monk Sangamitta and king Mahasen
(Pioneer of Mahavihare; Tamil Budhagosha)
Jetavanaramaya built on that premises
Teravadas got their revenge in the 12th c with Parakramabahu
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AYMAN / May 28, 2012
CHAMPIKA, FIRST LEARN THE FACTS BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR “FOUL MOUTH”,YOU KNOW ALL. IT IS THE LIKES OF YOU WILL BRING ABOUT THE DEMISE OF THIS GOVERNMENT,BY CREATING A RIFT BETWEEN MUSLIMS AND SINHALESE.
WE ARE WELL AWARE OF YOUR WEBSITES WHIPPING UP COMMUNALISM,PARTICULARLY
AGAINST MUSLIMS, SINCE YOU FEEL YOU HAVE “FINISHED” WITH THE TAMILS.
FOR THE INFORMATION OF ALL,I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT A MOSQUE IN
ARABIC IS CALLED A MASJID, WHICH MEANS A PLACE OF PROSTRATION.
THE FIRST MOSQUE IN ISLAM WAS BUILT BY THE PROPHET S.A.W.S IN QUBA,
JUST OUTSIDE MEDINA,WHEN HE MIGRATED FROM MECCA, AND LATER IN MEDINAH.
THESE WERE SIMPLE STRUCTURES OF MUD WALLS AND ROOFS OF DATE PALM RAFTERS AND LEAVES. WELL IT CAN BE COMPARED TO THE WATTLE AND DAUB HOUSES IN SRI LANKA, AND THATCHED COCONUT BRANCHES.
LATER ON THEY KEPT ON BUILDING WITH MATERIALS WITH THE ADVANCEMENT IN BUILDING METHODS AND MATERIALS. DOMES AND MINARETS, CAME LATER AND THEY
HAVE NO PLACE IN ISLAM. MINARETS CAME TO BE USED TO CALL THE FAITHFUL
TO PRAYER,SINCE THERE WERE NO CLOCKS AND LOUDSPEAKERS.
TIME WAS KNOWN BY USE OF THE “SUN-DIAL”
WHY THE DAMBULLA MOSQUE HAS TO BE DESTROYED,IS BECAUSE IT DOES NOT HAVE THE CHARACTERISTIC FEATURES OF A MODERN MOSQUE AND OF COURSE
IT IS SAID TO BE IN A “SACRED” AREA.
HAS ANYONE BOTHERED TO FIND OUT HOW MANY “HOOCH” JOINTS,DRUG PEDDLARS
OR BROTHELS OPERATE IN THESE AREAS??????
ISLAM IS FAITH IN ALMIGHTY GOD,TO WHOM WE PRAY AND ASK FOR HELP AND IT
NEVER FAILS. AROUND THE WORLD, THE ATTACK ON MUSLIMS GOES ON, BUT EVERY MINUTE, THERE IS ANOTHER ENTERING ISLAM MAKING IT THE FASTEST
GROWING RELIGION IN THE WORLD AND AT PRESENT, THERE ARE 1.6 BILLION
MUSLIMS.DESTROYING OF A MOSQUE IN DAMBULLA OR DEHIWELA, WILL ONLY
MAKE MORE ENTER THE FOLD OF ISLAM,IF NOT HERE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY.
EVERY MUSLIM EXCLUDING OUR POLITICIANS AND “DEALERS” IS A SOLDIER OF GOD.I KNOW THAT MOST SINHALESE AND MUSLIMS LIVE IN HARMONY, AND APPEAL
TO THEM TO ACT SENSIBLY AND RESTRAINT AND NOT PLAY INTO THE HANDS OF
“RABBLE ROUSERS”
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