The Buddhist monk Bohowatte Indararatna thero who set himself on fire in front of the Dalada Maligawa, Kandy in protest of cattle slaughter has passed away at the National Hospital a short while ago.
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End Cattle Slaughter: Sri Lanka’s First Attempt At Self-Immolation By A Buddhist Monk
Bohowatte Indararatna thero
Rifkha Roshanaara / May 25, 2013
People are watching as if they are watching a beautiful Kandyan dance performance. What a sad situation :(
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Sama / May 26, 2013
They should also be buddist spectators. That alone shows how our people react intuitively.. why not they even try to help the poor monk there saving him life ?
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Samson / May 26, 2013
I cant imagine why the particular monk decided to immolate in that way..- how unbearable pains he should have gone through – my god ?
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Amarasiri / May 26, 2013
“According to the Sunday Times, investigations by Media Ministry has revealed that the monk had, before setting himself on fire told the local correspondent of a State media institution of his plans to do so. The correspondent had videoed the entire event. The material had been aired both in State run and private television networks.”
This is Paparazzi at its Worst with the concurrence of the Buddhist Monk. Is this the Buddhism the Lord Buddha taught?
1. The Monk was going to commit Suicide.
2. The correspondent knew it. He took undue advantage of that.
3. The question what is the link between this correspondent and the state?
4. We know the State, the Govt, of Sri Lanka lies blatantly.
There is media department headed by people who lies.
There is the Ceylon Daily news and others that lie, and they have their own Shill correspondents and writers.
Then there are many news sites that are controlled or with their shills running them, that will not allow for any critical comments against the sate.
This is pathetic. This is Mara morals. This is NOT Buddhism.
Welcome to the Dhamma Island- Dhamma Deepaya.
The Yakkas, Nagas and Veddahs have better morals, and they did not need the Imported Buddhism.
Lanka should have remained Hindu like Bali Island, Indonesia, and peaceful, free of Monk Mahanama Myths,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paparazzi
Paparazzi /pɑːpəˈrɑːtsi/, /pæpəˈrætsi/ (singular: (m) paparazzo Italian: [papaˈrattso] or (f) paparazza) are photographers who take pictures of athletes, celebrities, politicians, and other prominent people usually while they are going about normal life routines. Paparazzi tend to be independent contractors, unaffiliated with any mainstream media organization and pictures take are usually done so by opportunity. [1]
Many celebrities complain about the extent to which paparazzi invade their personal space,[2] and some have even filed restraining orders against them.
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Indrapala / May 26, 2013
No pork in Arabia
No beef in SL
Must end plant slaughter……….just because they are dumb and cannot express does not mean they do not live
Deforestation for our consumption is a serious threat, not just for them plants but the habitat of animals.
(Like the Jains, just eat fruits !!)
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Dias / May 26, 2013
Eat chicken, fish also good for alms giving! delicious. but no pork, beef.. ok
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Senior City / May 26, 2013
Who told you Chicken and fish don’t have life. Are you mental.
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Mahela / May 27, 2013
Eat Polkudu “Coconut scrape” and Grass……the next generation Cows.
Yes Dana is the most reliable,on time, Guaranteed for life no work but rewarded best Profession in the world.
Only qualification required is a Male with minimum age seven years. 7 and up. Not Bad.
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malli / May 28, 2013
Today a friend of mine is giving a Dana- She is cooking Dallo, prawns ++. Sometimes in the past she has give chicken too. Prawns are more expensive than chicken. Do you think a priest should have these delicacies. Should the priests advice the Dana providers to give simple food even the Dana givers want to give this type of food. Every house provides the best of food for the priests. In the rural areas where my origin lies, the poor ones gives the best dana even depriving their children. Someone has to think about these things and bring moderation.
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Jayantha / May 28, 2013
Malli,
No wonder Buddhist clergy looks well fed and well taken care of.
My next door neighbour wanted to give Morning ‘Heel Bath” dana to the temple and he was told to wait six months to get his turn. This is true in Ratmalana. Also now most of the Danas are special catered food which are more tasty and appealing.
I don’t want to write here as to what another Clergy said to bring when asked what to bring for Dana.My friends won’t tell lies. But his requests were emberrasing.
You know they prepare the best food for Dana even going beyond their means to give the best. That’s why the Buddhist Priests looks more plum and fresh and more handsome than the average citizen. Also now almost every senior clergy has his own chaufer driven SUV’s and super luxury cars.
These makes them prey to young lasses which could easily end up in marriage. My own Logic teacher 40 years ago who was a handsome Buddhist monk (we called him Gamini Fonseka) from Hunupitiya Gangarama temple during our AL Logic exam course, suddenly vanished from the Temple and we were told that he eloped with a Girl.
I think There’s a 50%(fifty percent) defection of Clergy from the Sasana.
After giving them everything what they asked for, if they are still not satisfied, I don’t know what else to say.
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Wickramasiri / May 26, 2013
Protect mosquitoes too.
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Senior City / May 26, 2013
People need beef when they drunk. So, stop drinking. you A.H.
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PISS / May 26, 2013
DEAR MR PRESIDENT
ANSWER IS VERY SIMPLE.
1. LET HINDUS TO EAT CHICKEN AND MUTTON
2. LET MUSLIMS TO EAT CHICKEN, MUTTON AND BEEF.
3. LET CHRISTIAN TO EAT CHICKEN, MUTTON, PORK AND BEEF
4. LET BUDHISTS TO EAT CHICKEN, MUTTON AND PORK
5. LET BUDIHIST MONKS TO EAT ONLY CHICKEN
OR ELES PROHIBIT EATING ALL ANIMAL FLESH
THIS IS NO JOKE. DONT LET HUMAN LIFE TO SACRIFIES FOR ANIMAL.
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Jayantha / May 28, 2013
Tourist development minister Basil Rajapakse Can attract more tourists to Sri Lanka to achieve his 2.5 million target in 2016 if he could introduce more of these live stunt performances to the Kandy Perahera.
Nothing like a live show business.
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Amarasiri / May 26, 2013
May he attain Nirvana.
He gave his life, this life, for his beliefs, for the sake of fellow beings, called animals being slaughtered on a commercial scale.
http://www.urbandharma.org/udharma5/viewdeath.html
In the teaching of the Buddha, all of us will pass away eventually as a part in the natural process of birth, old-age and death and that we should always keep in mind the impermanence of life. The life that we all cherish and wish to hold on.
To Buddhism, however, death is not the end of life, it is merely the end of the body we inhabit in this life, but our spirit will still remain and seek out through the need of attachment, attachment to a new body and new life. Where they will be born is a result of the past and the accumulation of positive and negative action, and the resultant karma (cause and effect) is a result of ones past actions.
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Native Vedda / May 26, 2013
Amarasiri
May he attain Nibbana.
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Amarasiri / May 26, 2013
Native Vedda and Observer,
With new information about the state media and Paperazzi correspondent being part of this incident, now I am of opinion, (even though I may be incorrect upon further research), that
there is:
1. No Nibbana (The Pali version)
2.. No Nirvana ( The Sanksrit Version)
http://www.buddhanet.net/nutshell10.htm
The Pali word Nibbana is formed of Ni and Vana. Ni is a negative particle and vana means lusting or craving. “It is called Nibbana, in that it is a departure from the craving which is called vana, lusting.” Literally, Nibbana means non-attachment.
Nibbana is not situated in any place nor is it a sort of heaven where a transcendental ego resides. It is a state which is dependent upon this body itself. It is an attainment (dhamma) which is within the reach of all. Nibbana is a supramundane state attainable even in this present life. Buddhism does not state that this ultimate goal could be reached only in a life beyond. Here lies the chief difference between the Buddhist conception of Nibbana and the non-Buddhist conception of an eternal heaven attainable only after death or a union with a God or Divine Essence in an after-life. When Nibbana is realized in this life with the body remaining, it is called sopadisesa nibbana-dhatu. When an arahat attains parinibbana, after the dissolution of his body, without any remainder of physical existence it is called anupadisesa nibbana-dhatu.
In the words of Sir Edwin Arnold:
“If any teach Nirvana is to cease
Say unto such they lie.
If any teach Nirvana is to live
Say unto such they err.”
From a metaphysical standpoint Nibbana is deliverance from suffering. From a psychological standpoint Nibbana is the eradication of egoism. From an ethical standpoint Nibbana is the destruction of lust, hatred and ignorance.
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Observer / May 26, 2013
Yes, exactly that is what is meant by Nibbana, non-attachment. Attachment to a cause will make him craving for being born again and again in this and the other world alternatively. Why waste your words for wishing that he will attain Nibbana?
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Observer / May 26, 2013
He will not attain Nibbana as long as he holds these delusions in his head.
According to the Buddha, as cononised in the Anguttara Nikaya, one to attain Nibbana should be free from Lobha (Greed), Dosha (Hatred) and Moha (Delusion) or their opposites, Nirlobha (Generosity), Prema (Love) and Knowledge. One should follow, according to the teachings, Alobha (neither lobha nor nirlobha),adosha (neither hatred nor love)and amoha (neither delusion no knowledge). He is none of these as he is guided by moha, fear and revenge (taking his life to frighten others).
So, let everyone desirous of attaining Nibbana follow the path shown by the Master.
The Buddhist literature is full of examples where people like him will end up after leaving this world. Pray that he will not suffer there to an extreme extent as he did in the last few hours of living in this world.
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John / May 26, 2013
True, he had not understood or practiced Buddhism, nor did he leave any legacy to Buddhist followers, very bad example, should be condemned by all.
Buddhists priests normally won’t even perform religious rites for anyone who committed suicide. Just wait & see what Buddhist priests do & say in this man’s funeral.
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watts / May 26, 2013
“Buddhists priests normally won’t even perform religious rites for anyone who committed suicide.” ??
I’m sorry John, i never neither seen nor heard of such thing, and i have seen to the contrary. While we all question whether the monk used his best judgement, when it comes to educating and getting the message across on his chosen matter; when you make such prejudice comments, it just make us all well aware of your agenda only!!
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Amarasiri / May 26, 2013
Observer,
1. Yes. He will not attain the Pali Nibbana or the Sanskrit Nirvana.
2. He is a member of Sinhala Ravaya, a Racist Organization.
3. Lord Buddha and Buddhism has nothing to do with Racism
4. Racists are using Buddhism to advance their racist agenda.
5. This is a political act, not a religious act.
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Lester / May 26, 2013
He is none of these as he is guided by moha, fear and revenge (taking his life to frighten others).
How did you reach this conclusion, in regards to his personal motivations? He is simply protesting injustice in a peaceful way. Tibetan monks have been using self-immolation for decades to protest against Chinese injustice. I would also point out that suicide is not forbidden in Buddhism.
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Observer / May 27, 2013
Lester, look at the broad picture. He is full of Moha because he protests against the slaughter of only cattle and not the killing of human beings, fish, chicken, etc for the benefit of one party or another.
Further, if he is vaccinated against polio in the childhood, he would have caused the death of millions of monkeys who have sacrificed their lives to make that vaccination.
As a Buddhist priest, he should have wisdom to understand this big picture which the Buddha understood well and therefore did not accede to Devadaththa’s demand for banning the partaking of meat by Buddhist monks.
When Buddhism is twisted to attain personal goals, it is not necessary for outsiders to come and destroy it. It will implode from inside.
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Lester / May 27, 2013
Your allegations are rubbish. He had a specific cause and he died for it peacefully. No one else was injured in the process.
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ahmad / May 27, 2013
Its called suiside lestor, and homicide for all his accomplices who stood there and let him do it
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Observer / May 28, 2013
Lester, he didn’t die peacefully. Personally, he was in pain till he left this world. But in the process he created fear, anguish, sorrow, hatred, fright and many other forms of positive and negative violence in others. For instance, he has created sorrow and euphoria in you which will not do any good for you because they will prevent you from treading the path to Nirvana as you are now having an attachment which the Buddha called impediments to seeking the truth.
So, committing suicide in public is a frightful experience for others especially for people with sensitive minds. That was exactly the objective of his enterprise that day.
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Lester / May 28, 2013
@ Observer,
Who are these “others?” Please give their names, since you seem to have vast info into their personal thoughts.
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Observer / May 29, 2013
Lester, others are all those who have watched, read, listened or been told of the incident. They include both you and me.
If we are able to see it in its reality as the Buddha has preached with total equanimity but analysing the cause and effect,impermanence and evolution to guide us, then we are free. Otherwise, we too are dragged into it and as long as we live in it either supporting or opposing, we lose the opportunity to attain enlightenment as disciples of that great master.
But if our objective is to be born again and again and suffer in the process, then, of course our choice is to get dragged into it. So, the volition of the person, as the Buddha taught, dominates in deciding our destiny.
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Lester / May 30, 2013
@ Observer:
That is not a satisfactory response. As long as he did not physically harm or steal from anyone, there is no conflict. What do you think of the Tibetan monks who self-immolate?
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Mahela / May 27, 2013
Hope someone would save his Tooth and Hair and some body parts to build the next generation of Temples.
No business like show business.
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jay / May 27, 2013
That guy was fool,inspite of him being a monk he didn’t understand buddhism ,that show the sorry state of institutions in sri lnaka.
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JimSofty / May 26, 2013
May He attain Nibbhana one day.
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Sama / May 26, 2013
One should rather check his health history. Why he waited that long to raise the issue ?
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JimSofty / May 26, 2013
SAMA, there is human thrash like you in the world people who don’t and don’t want to understand others.
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Sama / May 26, 2013
Even the other monks criticise this incident as this is not taught in buddhist philosophy.
bbc.co.uk/sinhala/sri_lanka/2013/05/130524_monk_immolation.shtml
What I feel is – this act is NO means exemplary.
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JimSofty / May 26, 2013
West practices Christian Buddhism. Buddhism in china was called CHEN-Buddhism, in Japan it was called ZEN-Buddhism and, In tobet, it is called Tantric buddhism.
This monk was Tamil and he followed his conscience.
What we can do ?
Just have some compassion on him.
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Sama / May 26, 2013
Sad for the death of the monk – but it was a suicide which is not common to buddhist monks in lanka. May well be possible he was not good in health.
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kp / May 26, 2013
your comment brings to mind quite a few problems here:
1. he’s tamil? what? is there some source you’re quoting? i seriously doubt that a tamil monk would join up to the violently anti-minority JHU and Sinhala Raavaya.
2. you seem to imply that at least under one version of the various types of Buddhism practiced around the world, his actions would be valid. That’s a strange comment coming from a man in a country that claims to have the purest and most original form of buddhism on earth- so much so that mahayana is seen as some kind of plague, being chased out of the country as soon as it is found. Surely to you, the approval of these other, breakaway factions of the faith should be irrelevant?
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Sama / May 26, 2013
Yes, KP^s questions are valid. Tell us what made you to feel that the immolated was tamil origin ?
Is that just because his appearance is bit darker ?
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ONE / May 26, 2013
I suppose he died a coward.
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Sama / May 26, 2013
Not coward – but he was not at all mentally stable. Most that commit suicide are like that. They cant see beyond their wishes. Anyway, this could have been avoided if his close ones could have a better understanding about the young monk. Any form of extreme reactions are considered NOT as brave acts, but kind of weaknesses. If he stayed live would have helped thousands of people as a monk, but his no longer physical existence cannot help anyone. There were times in the country – youth ones took their lives since both of their parents did not allow their love relationships. But suicidal incidents related to B monks were not heard. Today, all forms of extreme incidents among buddhist monks are on its rise; they vandalize, they commit suicide, they behave violent on broad day light, they assualt others as lay people would do, they do illegal business, they hit and run as Galaboda Ghanasara did ( proved evidence available), they eat fried rice mixed with chicken meat while asking others not to do so, they attack muslims, they cause to create new communal violences. All these to be legally controlled, ministry of buddhist affairs should have laws appropriately.. so long all the rulers ( power men) would stay doing nothing but just trying to abuse only their votes, can bring us further. We the nation are sinking today.. under the guidance of uneducated bunch of thieves led by MR and siblings.
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zain / May 27, 2013
Also they love to have sex with little boys. Abbots they call them.
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Rama / May 26, 2013
all bikkus have [Edited out]
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Amarasiri / May 26, 2013
JimSofty,
“He May attain Nibbana or Nirvana one day?” No. Never.
Because he is member of two racist organization , Jatika Hela Urumaya and Sinhala Ravaya.
The best option is to:
1. Save a sample of his tissues and DNA. Needs to be done before he is cremated.
2. Clone another person, turn him into a Bikku in Tibet or Nepal ( Not Racist Sri Lanka or Burma), follow the True Teachings of Lord Buddha.
Then, only the clone will attain Nibbana or Nirvana.
Amarasiri
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Doka / May 26, 2013
Evan I wish that… But according to buddhist teaching he ( Ven.Indrarathana) may reborn.If he get his rebirth in a Muslim family……………….?????? can any one do explian this to me please……….
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Kap De Silva / May 26, 2013
I salute the venerable monk for the sacrifice he made towards cows in Sri Lanka. To make his sacrifice more humane and Buddhist, we should rally all Venerable monks to stop the killing of any animals in Si Lanka. More can come from a sacrifice than talking.
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Sangakkara / May 26, 2013
You next ?
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Samson / May 26, 2013
Why not Wimalweerawansa could sacrifice his life to the manner the this particular monk ? Is that because his affinity to new build house from the costs of tax payers and the other illegal assets he happened to collect since 2005 ?
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Kap / May 27, 2013
I was b4 the dead monk. Patali Puthra wanted to kill me long long time ago. I am waiting for Patali Puthra scrifice his life for 13.
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Anura / May 26, 2013
Kapila,
Isn’t it more practical and logical to call all Sinhalese Buddhists to stop eating meat rater than trying to stop people who kill as a service or trade?
You should promote slogans like ; stop eating dead animals , dead fish and half alive eggs …
About 70-80% of Hindus in India do not eat dead animals or dead fish. How many Sinhalese Buddhist do this?
Anura ( I gave up Sinhalese Buddhism )
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Native Vedda / May 26, 2013
Kap De Silva
“we should rally all Venerable monks to stop the killing of any animals in Si Lanka”
Stop eating meat, the market shrinks which means fewer slaughters.
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Suq madique / May 26, 2013
By not eating flesh will it make us better Buddhists? Is is fair to others to shove our beliefs and dislikes down another’s throat? All have missed the point which is to conduct the slaughter in a more humane manner. There are modern methods which are painless and less stressful for the animal. Banning in not the answer.
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Amarasiri / May 26, 2013
Kap De Silva,
1.The Monk is a racist. He is a member of Jatika Hela Urumaya and Sinhala Ravaya, two Sinhala Buddhist ( not Tamil Buddhist,if there is any species as such). He collaborated with a Govt. Paperazzi.
This is Monk Mahanama Rssism Myths at its worst.
Lanka was originally inhabited by Veddah, Yakka and Nagas, who followed animist, Jain and Hindu beliefs.
1. He will NOT attain the Pali Nibbana or the Sanskrit Nirvana.
2. Lord Buddha and Buddhism has nothing to do with Racism
3. Racists are using Buddhism to advance their racist agenda.
4. This is a political act, not a religious act.
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M.Sivananthan / May 27, 2013
This is about religion and not about politics. What is your religion. Tell us. then we can proceed with your talks!
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Rama / May 26, 2013
very good news. bikkus are uncivilised [Edited out]. i wonder why this bikku [Edited out] after eating cattle meat set fire to himself. i wish rest of them follow suit and disappear from the face of the earth. end of buddhism and the absence of bikkus will be an excellent news for sri lanka. sri lanka’s prosperity and glory depends on [Edited out]
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Taraki / May 26, 2013
Dear Editor, some kind of evil spirit has dared to call himself Rama (God) and is encouraging religious hatred. Please delete his post. The BBS would delete him!
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Rama / May 26, 2013
oi ignorant git, what are you on about. stop moaning and complaining you idiot. why don’t you tell your bikku criminals and thugs to stop inciting racial hatred. hate crime is a punishable offence in civilised countries. in sri lanka racial hatred is encouraged by the sinhala government. i presume their survival depends on talking about terrorism day in and day out and inciting racial hatred. why is that black monkey gothabaaaaa goung on and on about 13 amendment. this war criminal should be put behinfd bars along with his liar brother.
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Lester / May 26, 2013
Gothabaya is a black monkey? He looks more European than you Dravidian Tamils who converted to Islam and pretend to have Arabian ancestry.
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Varuna / May 26, 2013
Heh heh, good one Lester!
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Rama / May 26, 2013
looks european?. are you kidding. i would advice you to visit your optician regularly . muslims are dravidian converts okay. how about sinhala origins. are you pretending to be aryans. man, you black and kinky hair lot can never be aryans in a million years. 85% of the sinhala lot are low caste dravidian tamils of tamil nadu’s coastal regions who were brought to sri lanka to catch sardines by the portuguese. remaining 15% are descendants of convicts and criminals. stop blabbering you ignorant fool. you lot couldn’t manage to shed your criminality and thuggery. don’t you think this is what you lot have been doing for the past 65 years. [Edited out]
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Lester / May 26, 2013
Quran does not teach genetics, what a shame. Sinhalese are more closely related to Indian Bengalis than to Tamils.
An Alu polymorphism analysis of Sinhalese from Colombo by Dr Sarabjit Mastanain in 2007 using Tamil, Bengali, Gujarati (Patel), and Punjabi as parental populations found different proportions of genetic contribution:[5]
A genetic distance analysis by Dr Robet Kirk also concluded that the modern Sinhalese are most closely related to the Bengalis.[3]
This is further substantiated by a VNTR study, which found 82% of Sinhalese genes to originate from Bengali admixture:[4]
D1S80 allele frequency (A popular allele for genetic fingerprinting) is also similar between the Sinhalese and Bengalis, suggesting the two groups are closely related.[7] The Sinhalese also have similar frequencies of the allele MTHFR 677T (13%) to West Bengalis (17%).[8][9]
These findings are compatible with the historical chronicles the Mahavamsa and Dipavamsa. Which describe a Bengali prince (Prince Vijaya) of being an early settler of Sri Lanka and the progenitor of the Sinhalese.
A genetic distance analysis by Dr Robet Kirk also concluded that the modern Sinhalese are most closely related to the Bengalis.[3]
This is further substantiated by a VNTR study, which found 82% of Sinhalese genes to originate from Bengali admixture:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Sinhalese
Not only do these studies confirm the Aryan origins of Sinhalese, but also proves the validity of Mahavamsa.
Now go back to reading your Islamic holy book, which talks about Jews descending from pigs and illiterate men going to the heavenly paradise of virgins on a magic carpet. :)
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DODU / May 26, 2013
So monkey reborn as a donkey!
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Lester / May 26, 2013
Rebirth is too complicated for Abrahamic minds to comprehend. Weak minds desire instant gratification. That is why your leader promised you 72 virgins for the afterlife.
It was mentioned by Daraj Ibn Abi Hatim, that Abu al-Haytham ‘Adullah Ibn Wahb narrated from Abu Sa’id al-Khudhri, who heard the Prophet Muhammad PBUH saying, ‘The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and seventy-two houri, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from al-Jabiyyah to San’a.
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Doka / May 26, 2013
If Ven.Bowatte Indrarathana Thero reborn in a muslim family….? and..? and again….? Did you get what I mean?
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DODU / May 26, 2013
Yes Lester, rebirth is highly complicated. I wonder how a man can become a Pig, then dog, then donkey, then monkey and then agin donkey, monkey… Only Buddha knows this great circle. It is like a bicycle! How can Lester be a donkey, then monkey agin donkey….there is no end for this monkey, donkey race!
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Lester / May 27, 2013
As I said, rebirth is too complicated for Abrahamic minds. Just focus on the 72 virgins in Allah’s paradise, as promised by Quran. Osama, Gadhaffi, Saddam, and the rest of the faithful are already there.
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nalla paambu / May 26, 2013
Gotha looks European? Heh, heh. My backside looks more European I should say.
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solutions / May 26, 2013
And mine too ha ha ha. Gota looks european? how many kasippu he had ha ha ha. blistering barnacles…i cant stop laughing. By the way this cri=onic fellow by saying looks like european doesnt he praising the european looks.
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Lester / May 26, 2013
Why do Arabs not acknowledge Sri Lankan Muslims as equals?
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Doka / May 26, 2013
Ofcource …! That is because you have lend that to Europians ENDLESSLY.
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spectator / May 27, 2013
as far as i know in all abrahamic religions, people are equal. ethnicities and colors may differ. i know of certain oriental thoughts that went deviant to devise caste systems and others that justified it?
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DODU / May 28, 2013
Lester, of corse nobody in this world wants to re-born as Monkey, Donkey, pig, bitch….. circle. It is better to have 72 or more vergins in the haven then reborn as a minority in the Buddhist country and getting killed! In one religion , a God has over 16,000 vergins, so what is wrong in Muslims having 72 or vergins in the haven.
You will re-born as a man, a buddhist will kill you but will not eat your body. OR you will reborn as a cattle, again a Buddhist will eat you but not kill you.
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Sama / May 26, 2013
This is somewhat racial… if they are dravidian tamils what about sinhalese ?
If Gota is european, he should have the least capacity to implement amds to the prevailing law of the country- has he even touched it yet ? NO…. – in European countries they would not let that extended to the manner it has been common to lanken issues. He just ignores any issue related to free and fair crime investigations. This he did with Baratha killing, Kelaniya MP killing, Army officer assualt case and several other mostly raised issues in the recent months.
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HardNut / May 27, 2013
Gota looks european? You are such a comic Leela.
Are you insulting DA Rajapakse then?
He looks like an Inca.
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Jayantha / May 28, 2013
Lester,
Yes I agree with you on this Bengali Sinhala connection.
With my own experience with them I felt that Sinhalese are closely resemble to Bengalis cum Banngladesh people. I don’t know if most of the Bengalis are Muslims, but their Body structures, features,life style, their food and spices, their talk, their behaviour and their temperement levels are very much closer to us Sinhala people.
I also notice that some Kerala Indians also would have came and settled in our coastal areas. Their lifestyles are resembled to our Western coastal population.
This Indraratne Thera has already brought the first Real Black mark to our Buddha Sasana. His self suicidal act is another Terrorist act. He desecreated the most venerable Dalada Maligawa. Why he selected Dalada Maligawa and not near a Butchery to commit self emulation during the very First day of Vesak. This is Crazy.
Here’s some news I gathered of him from another website.
lankaenews.com/English/news.php?id=13697
All I could say is you cannot change the Leopard’s spots no matter where you are.
Also I like to know the history, the family back ground, the upbringing, the age he joined Pansala as Samanera, his mentors and the education qualifications of this Indraratne Thero.
If somebody or the CT has any information on these above info and if could publish them will be helpful.
We like to know the back ground of this thero and like to know who Moulded him to do this atrocious act.
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Lester / May 28, 2013
@ Jayantha,
I am not sure what you have against this monk. If you die without harming others, then what? There is no God in Buddhism; at the end of the day, you are responsible for your own actions. I do not think the monk had an ego, either; how many are willing to die for the sake of innocent cattle these days. Some will argue suicide is fundamentally wrong; let us remember, this was a monk. He gave up “normal” life a long time ago, and with it, the normal obligations to family, friends, etc.
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Jayantha / May 28, 2013
Lester,
If you look at the whole picture, you should understand that the cattle and all other consumable animals are doing a much greater sacrifice to us than this self Immulated Thero .
Cattle are giving heir flesh for human consumption which we should be thankful for whereas self immulation does not bare any purpose other than sending fear Psychosis, hatered, anger and isolation.
Also there are many starving Lions, Tigers, Bears, crocodiles etc, in the Dehiwala Zoo who rely only on meat. I see them as underfed in the Zoo. Go look at them your self.
Read the histories of Native Indians in USA, Canada and Alaska and read what a relationship they had with Buffalos and Bears. Read how they survived harsh winters only by eating Buffalo and bear meat, but still respected each other.
I think only after the Western Commercial and Profit culture that broke down this human animal connection.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHqVdZmpRgI&list=PLVKlTDZpfE-Xj3RvLIvyRc6WRWe-gMipu
God created various animals for various purposes. Read what UN says what type of food that may available in future for human consumption and want us to adjust to those foods from now on.
Yes the way it goes eating meat will be a super luxury when 70% of our children are under nourished and lack daily required Proteins,Fiber, Vitamins and Minerals.
Every day over 100,000 acres of forest,green and cultivable land disappear from earth while population is increasing at 78 million per year.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_does_world_population_increase_each_day
All comes to facts and figures and not mere self ideologies.
Select whatever suits you best,as you are your own master.
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priya / May 29, 2013
Someone sent me the Enews of the 27th instant. According to it there are court cases against this monk. But anyway, may he attain Nirvana after all he believed that he was a doing a good act and what matters is the intention.
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Lester / May 30, 2013
@ Jayantha:
I agree we should not end slaughter of all cattle. However we should end slaughter by halal/kosher methods. At the very least, the monk brought attention to the latter issue.
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nobody / May 30, 2013
I agree we should not end slaughter of all cattle. However we should end slaughter by halal/kosher methods. At the very least, the monk brought attention to the latter issue.
Lester – May 30, 2013
2:10 am
haha lester, now it’s clear what’s his humanitarian campaign against animal slaughter is all about! don’t his new pseudo scietific pain meters tell him that there is no absolutely painless methods of animal killing that will result in edible meat?
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nobody / May 30, 2013
in another post lester says,
Yes, that is the point. A camel gives life, a cow gives life. Even if the cow/camel could speak, stupid Abrahamic minds would still not understand. Quran only teaches how to kill infidels and enter the paradise of virgins.
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Taraki / May 26, 2013
Rama, at least learn how to spell and use correct grammar before posting abuse. How can we enjoy it if we can’t understand?
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Rama / May 27, 2013
oh dear oh dear so you can’t understand what i say. i think you have a problem . why don’t you go back to school and attend some english lessons. i am sure that will help you enormously. by the way i write in plain and simple english and avoid jargon. when i say gathabaaaaaa is a sinhala black monkey and you say he looks european. does gothabaaa have white skin, blue eyes and blond hair. he has black skin, kinky hair and brown eyes. therefore he is a black monkey who loves bananas. besides looking like a black monkey he acts like one too. what constitutes an abuse is debateable. besides what you cosider as an abuse may not be the same for me. for eample you think tigers are terrorists and i think they are freedom fighters. they fought the sinhala oppression. they fought the ruthless sinhala terrorists who have been terrorising the tamil population since 1948. tigers are not ruthless terrorists are they habve been made out by the ruthless sinhala terrorists. coming back to the sinhala black bikku, i am glad that he died. i want all of them dead. what are these mahanaai- aks doing apart from warming up their seats. who are they ?. what’s their role in the society apart from creating trouble. [Edited out]
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Mahela / May 27, 2013
Maybe somebody missed his US Chinese Buffet, BBQ meat, Mc Donalds, Hot Dogs, KFC, Pizza Hut, Texas Barbeque, New Orleans Gambo, Mains Lobster, Cheese cake, Milk shake etc,
Taste makes a diffrerence may be upto getting Barbequed.
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Anura / May 26, 2013
I could understand you if you use ‘Sinhalese Buddhist Bikku’ instead of just Bikku. Because people like Dalai Lama is doing great service to so many people in the world. These good Buddhists help and comfort lot of people through their wisdom gained by practicing true Buddhism
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Gabriel / May 26, 2013
“..May he attain Nirvana..”
Ha..ha..ha.. lol! Killing oneself to prevent cattle slaughter!!!! A murderer of one’s own self is not going to attain Nirvana but would pay a visit to hell, for how long I do not really know! And the real story behind the fiasco is an entirely different one, please read enews to know the details! It is the regime, the Balu Sena, Hela Karumaya, Gota and filthy media boutiques who are behind this. The regime set fire to Colombo harbor and simultaneously staged this saffron adventure to deflect the attention of the masses to some unimportant issue but made colossal important! Poor saffron mutt! The bugger will get his rewards from the hell keeper! And the lunatics who were watching this bugger bugger off must be charged with aiding and abetting with and not preventing a murder!
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Taraki / May 26, 2013
You are very fond of the word ‘bugger’ aren’t you Gabriel? Do you know what it means? It has several meanings which you can look up. I hope you are not some kinda pervert.
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Gabriel / May 26, 2013
Taraki,
Hay Gasgemba, you don’t have to teach me what bugger means; if you have any doubts as to who a bugger is look at you in the mirror to dispel any doubts you have!
One of the meanings of bugger is a person who offers his anus [Edited out] The fake reformist buggers like you always avoid the facts as you have done in my previous comment and try to cover up the facts with silly nonsense-like in the previous instance where you have written some kindergarten stuff about rare life which everybody has swallowed loads and loads from kindergarten age! What is missing is your wholesale covering up and turning a rogue blind eye to the facts I have pointed out regarding the self-immolation of the “rogue” monk! This “buggered off” monk is a thalibanized, LTTE Velupillai Pirabaharanized, extremist, violence and ignorance prone, brain-dead and anti-Buddha rascal who tarnished the sacred doctrine preached by Buddha of Indian origin!
For the information of this imbecilic reformist, Buddha’s Teachings have never existed in Sri Lanka in its pristine original meaning and relevance to people. Instead hat is being practiced is a cultic ritualism imposed on the ignorant gullible so called Sinhalese Buddhists by the cunning wheeler dealer monks of Buddhism who have usurped the doctrine of Buddha! Then the monks conspired and connived with the feudal lords, elites, kings and the chosen few of the society and deformed the beautiful and sacred doctrine of Buddha into a cultic ritualistic mutation where various superstitious religious rituals have replaced true religion, body parts of dead religious people are venerated over the true doctrine and essence of religion, corrupt monks assuming the role of sole interpreter-ship of the doctrine and behaving as if without them no one is able to reach Nirvana, even when a Buddhist dies the monks has to visit the carcass and invoke certain strange and odd ritualistic blessings on the dead so that his soul may migrate to a better life-and this whole Buddhist ritualistic exploitation by the monks of the poor ignorant masses goes on the latest Buddhist mania being the Sirasa media rag displaying the pieces of bones of dead pigs or Arhats-no matter and makes no difference what it is-and stupid masses swarming to pay homage and “gather merits”!!! Ha..haa..haaa.. This is the whole point-gather, gather, gather more and more merits so that your next life will be better and in the process no matter if one has to worship my testicles as being the sacred bones of an ancient Arhat!!! So this is the putrid scheme the monks have devised to extract and exploit favours, benefits, free foods, cloths, shelter and even cunt pleasure from women who are prepared to offer their most sacred and secret body parts to these “sons of the Buddha” who are oozing “sacredness” from all over their bodies! What fucking nonsense is this! Buddhism is long dead in Sri Lanka! What is there is a gormandizing herd of saffrons wheeling and dealing Buddha and his teachings! And that is exactly why despots like Rajapakshas have been able to imposter as the guardians of Sinhalese Buddhists!!! But don’t worry, the sufferings and antics of this nation of fuckers would soon be put to rest! The international through India will be invading this “pebble” of Indian Ocean and the minorities who have gray matter in their heads than the Sinhalese Buddhist donkeys would have their own country carved out from the land of the fools who never grabbed the opportunity to live with minorities in peace! What this “bugger” taraki who tries to rival with stars in labeling his empty self with names given to heavenly bodies really does is pouring more and more fuels to the possibility of its happening-a beautiful country but unfortunate infested with donkeys!
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Jayantha / May 28, 2013
Gabriel,
I agree with your comment. Also someone has to do more independent research to find out who Pushed this monk to do this crazy act.
lankaenews.com/English/news.php?id=13697
We know that Goat was trying to Impression Azath Sally some days ago, but he luckily escaped.
This may be another Govt. conspiracy to take revenge from Muslim and Christian community for voicing against Rajapakse dictatorial rule.
Also by this act they would have thought of Closing down all the Meat stalls followed later by Pork and chicken stalls also.
The same Conspirator business mafia later will monopolise their underground Meat business charging five to ten times more from the customers making huge profits.
This is similar to Govt. Elete Ethenol Kasippu and drug Mafia business Cartel. You shut down your rivals and monopolise the Business making extra ordinary profits. This is how Business Mafia works.
SRI LANKA MAFIOSAS ARE STILL ALIVE AND THIS IS ANOTHER PLOY.
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Mahela / May 27, 2013
Taraki,
When you recruit seven old Children (mostly from Poor and lower middle class families who cannot afford to feed and school them, send them to Buddhist temples as Samaneras.
What do these Five and Seven year olds know about Buddhism to select rest oftheir lives as a Buddhist Priest which is mostly against their will.
They miss their Perents love,care and affectionate, their siblings love, friends etc, at a tender age and miss their innocent Playfull days and are kept inside a concrete wall.
This is a crime where no choice or freedom is given to them. That’s why most of them run away after they Graduate.
There’s a (90%) Ninety percent chance that these Samaneras getting sexually abused and Physically and mentally harassed in these Temples.
These are the samaneras when they become Priests have a complete Grudge, enmity, hatered, racism and Jealoursy towards the Society they represent and against those other religions and races.
SINHALA BUDDHIST FANATICAL RACISM BEGINS AT THESE BUDDHIST TEMPLE MADRASAS.
Please do your own research.
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Gabriel / May 28, 2013
Mahela says,
“..There’s a (90%) Ninety percent chance that these Samaneras getting sexually abused and Physically and mentally harassed in these Temples…”
That is why this taraki bugger got so excited about the pervert anal pleasure that a “bugger” can derive which seems to be the pleasure-source of taraki!
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muslim / May 26, 2013
Gabriel you have some true points in your comments,according to some enews
the monk was insane and sick ,so he was picked to die, for a hidden agenda other than the cattle slaughter.It is a “eye wash” to divert the attention of the masses.The mutt will be burning in hell as well,poor man!!
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mike / May 26, 2013
I am afraid even our Modawansa may follow suit???
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Taraki / May 26, 2013
Buddhists believe that birth as a human is extremely rare. This bhikshu ordained in order to train himself towards Enlightenment. There are other ways to protest. Note that the Buddha would not have done something like this himself – and he had much more to protest about in his time. I think this was a tragic waste of a life.
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Rama / May 26, 2013
he looks very black. he deserves to die.
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Sangakkara / May 26, 2013
What did he achieve? nothing simply nothing but suffering and killing himself. These are supposed to be those that guide us spiritually ??????
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M.Sivananthan / May 26, 2013
He killed himself to save animals who have no voice in the commercial world. Hindus/Buddhists respect the cow as their second mother. Only cow’s milk is good for human children. So, he was right in his protest to save “mothers”.
Definitely he will reach MOKSHA!
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Native Vedda / May 26, 2013
M.Sivananthan
“Definitely he will reach MOKSHA!”
How do you know?
Have you been there before?
I too want to go there, show me the path I will follow you.
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Rohan / May 26, 2013
WOW… M. SivaNANTHAnknows everything, so don’t question him. The same Monk did not do anything of substance (for us to see) when tens of thousands of Tamils were slaughtered four years ago. Moksha is keeping the doors wide open for him? I doubt it!
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I am Vedda too / May 26, 2013
Native Veda is more suited to be back in Bintenna not Moksha.
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M.Sivananthan / May 26, 2013
Dont you have the ‘cynide” casule given by Prabhakaran? Eat it! then you will go to hell!
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Native Vedda / May 26, 2013
M.Sivananthan
As usual you haven’t answered my questions.
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Anura / May 26, 2013
I believe Sinhalese Buddhist society, cow is/was not prominent like in India. Special attention given to killing/eating cows is SL is due to Hindu influence in Buddhist culture in SL. There so many believes in SL which they think as Buddhist but were actually Hindu. Buddhism doesn’t say any difference between cow or chicken who sacrifices her eggs for human well-being .
Anura
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M.Sivananthan / May 26, 2013
Buddha was a Hindu. What was the relgion of the Sinhalese before Buddhism?
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Native Vedda / May 26, 2013
M.Sivananthan
There was no Sinhalese race when Buddhism was introduced to this island.
Your comments betray your age.
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M.Sivananthan / May 27, 2013
Sinhala language is resident to Sri Lanka only. Can you show any evidences to prove Sinhala language existed or existing in other parts of the world?
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Mahela / May 27, 2013
Sinhala Language is a “Pol Sambol” Coconut Sambol taking pieces from twenty odd other languages.
Please do your own Research. Also Talk to Veddha Pojja.
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sivapulle / May 27, 2013
Must be Nudism. Remember, til recently they were wearing the Amude. The Veddahs are still semi-nude.
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Kap De Silva / May 26, 2013
May all the animal loving Bikkus in Sri Lanka Sacrifice their lives for Animals including humans.
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ahmad / May 27, 2013
If Gnanasara self-imolates its enough
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Jayantha / May 27, 2013
There are Lions, Tigers, Dinos and Pirnahas at Colombo Zoo looking for Flesh Danas. Why Immolate.
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Lester / May 26, 2013
A cow gives life; it is not difficult to see why some people would venerate it. The milk (Vitamin D) provides substenance for children to grow. The skin (cowhide) provides a valuable source of leather that can be used for clothing. If the cow is eaten, then there is an opportunity to gain a valuable source of protein. Even the cow dung is useful; it can be used as organic manure, or to reinforce the walls of mud huts, or to keep mosquitoes and ants away. Every part of the cow serves some useful purpose.
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DODU / May 26, 2013
A great invention! Add this also: cow milk is white in colour, cows are different in colours, cows eat gereen leaves and Punack, cows never kills another or commit sucide….
But no one kills cow here for meat.
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AYMAN / May 26, 2013
THERE ARE SOME WHO WORSHIP THE COW
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Native Vedda / May 26, 2013
AYMAN
“THERE ARE SOME WHO WORSHIP THE COW”
They marry them in this island irrespective of their race, religion and region.
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Samson / May 26, 2013
That is under Hinduism..
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spectator / May 26, 2013
and cows are vegetarian :D
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Jayantha / May 27, 2013
spectator,
You say…..and cows are vegetarian….so do our Politicians and actors.
Cows are also used to Plough fields and drag Carts…..”Gon Karatte” President Rajapakse knows this well.
So Now please give cows a rest and do those your self.
COWS NEED A REST AND LOTS OF VEGGIES……SO NOW THEY BE THE COWS.
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Jamal / May 26, 2013
@Lester ” A cow gives life;…?
Looks like Lester has inherited his brains from the Cow!
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Nabil / May 26, 2013
:)
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Lester / May 26, 2013
Do you think your Prophet could have survived the desert without camels? Then again, you are a Dravidian who converted to Islam, how can you know about camels?
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DODU / May 26, 2013
Have you seen a camel? If you have guts go and stand near it. You will have to search for your balls! Then you will feel that It is not a cow.
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spectator / May 26, 2013
why are you so insistant on your belief that muslims of sri lanka purely arab dissendents? the last arab great grand father of some of theirs died several generations ago. and they have no problem in admitting that part of them were converts from other religions. and this very fact earns them their right to be part of the constituents of this land.
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Jamal / May 26, 2013
@Lester, what a coward! Only knows to repeat hackneyed idiotic Zionist created arguments. Absolutely lacks any originality and takes refuge in slandering a third person instead of taking the argument to his immediate adversary again the hallmark of an absolute bigotted coward!!
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ahmad / May 27, 2013
Jamal, have some respect for the cow. Lesters brain is a single cell organism :)
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spectator / May 26, 2013
all that applies to goats too! except for the dung part :D are goats receiving the benefits from your campaign too?
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Lester / May 27, 2013
Yes, that is the point. A camel gives life, a cow gives life. Even if the cow/camel could speak, stupid Abrahamic minds would still not understand. Quran only teaches how to kill infidels and enter the paradise of virgins.
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Jamal / May 27, 2013
@Lester You need to have the brains of a cow to understand and you admit you have it now!! Go immolate yourself Lester before the tumor encapsulates your brain!
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spectator / May 27, 2013
wow, sounds you are a little more broad minded than i thought :P
now does your campaign also include fishes and shrimps? they don’t seem to give life and vitamin D? or is it like you scratch my back, i scratch yours?
You start with all Abrahamic religions and then jump onto Quran for specifics. Is it because you are supplied only with islamophobia compendiums? I was given to understand quran teaches to kill infidels who transgress and wage war on muslims? are there also male vergins in the paradise you mention? now lets talk about caste systems and slavery being justified by Buddha’s version of karma?
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Lester / May 27, 2013
I was given to understand quran teaches to kill infidels who transgress and wage war on muslims?
It is easy to understand why the above statement is incorrect. If there were only Muslims left in the world, there would still not be “peace.” The Sunnis would wage war against the Shiites. That is exactly what is happening in Syria.
are there also male vergins in the paradise you mention?
Islam is nothing more than male chauvinism; it is just a way for men to exert even more control over women. Look at the life of Muhammed. Unsurprisingly, there is nothing for women in the so-called “paradise.”
now lets talk about caste systems and slavery being justified by Buddha’s version of karma?
Buddha never justified caste or slavery.
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nobody / May 30, 2013
1. if either sunni or shiia group is going unjustfully aggressive over an other, then former has essentially violated the God’s commandments and they are ‘rejectors’ (the translation of the term you translate as infidel because of western influence) of God’s authority, thereby necessitating for the other a fight in defense which is allowed in the religion.
2. so lester, if buddha didn’t justify caste system (it’s clear that he didn’t systematically abolish it for what would later become the ordinary buddhist communities), slavery, oppression etc then the caste system we see in sinhala buddhist society is against the buddhist teachings? if so, then you should focus more on that human injustice than islamophobia.
thanks.
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DODU / May 28, 2013
Lester, Buddha’s taught Buddhists to kill infidels to attain Nirvana. He threatened Buddhist if you do not do it you will suffer forever. This is in Birvana Sutra, a Buddhist Holy text.
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DODU / May 28, 2013
….Nirbana Sutra…
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Lester / May 28, 2013
Too bad you cannot prove your allegations. FYI, you don’t even know that “Buddhism” was created hundreds of years afer Buddha died.
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ahmad / May 27, 2013
Looks like a cow is more useful than even a Human as not every part of human is as useful!!
Might be the reason why Monks choose to self-immolate over cows while humans are starving on the street.
Thank you, I have been enlightened
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Jayantha / May 27, 2013
Lester,
You say….A cow gives life
I thought your Father and Mother gave you life. No wonder you are like one of them. I love Curd and IIIIICCCCCEEEEE CreaMMMMMMM.
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Anna / May 26, 2013
His reaching MOKSHA might take a bit longer than usual now that he has committed suicide…
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Native Vedda / May 26, 2013
Anna
If the act was judged to be a sin definitely he will reborn in this island to pay his karmic debt, suffering until his death.
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Rifkha Roshanaara / May 26, 2013
M Sivanathan, All my Hindu friends in Sri Lanka eat meat, including beef. All my Indian friends including Brahmins eat meat, beef included. Among all my Buddhist friends I know of only one person who is a vegetarian. And do you think this act will make the non-veg eating Hindus and Buddhists become vegetarian ? I do not have sympathy for any person who commits suicide in anyway for any reason, even if it happens in my own family. They are the biggest losers. But it is really worrying to see people endorsing this brutal, illogical, insane act, which is totally against the very religion they represent. This person has set a bad example and sowed a vicious seed in some people’s mind.
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Tamara / May 26, 2013
Rifkha, you evidently have a very limited circle of Hindu friends in India or Sri Lanka. Very few Hindus eat beef. This explains why the price of beef is so cheap in India and Sri Lanka unlike elsewhere where it is the most expensive meat.
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Zaid / May 26, 2013
Tamara,
Beef is cheap in India and Sri Lanka because of the liw quality of meat. You cannot get good quality red meat in these countries.
Try having a good steak at London Grill, Cinnamon Grand where they serve imported meat – you can feed a small family for a month for that money.
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Rifkha Roshanaara / May 26, 2013
Majority of my friends are Hindus both from Sri Lanka and India. And they range from Point Pedro to down south in SL and Kashmir to Kanyakuari in India (yes I do have friends from Kashmir too). Except one or two, they all eat meat. And Hindus in SL have no issues about cattle slaughter. And why only cattle? Did Buddha only preach against cattle slaughter?
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spectator / May 26, 2013
yes, out of about 40 sinhala buddhist colleagues of mine, only one is a vegetarian!
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M.Sivananthan / May 27, 2013
Muslims eat pork sausages in Canada and USA. What is your explanation?
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Rifkha Roshanaara / May 26, 2013
From all what I have read, it has been his choice, a politically motivated choice backed by several people and groups. I am very convinced it is a well planned act. The people who are gleefully shooting the scene with their cameras, gleefully watching the horrible act as if they are watching a beautiful Kandyan dance performance and people who backed and instigated this act are part of this crime. All this prevent me from sympathizing. I can only feel sorry for his soul.
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spectator / May 26, 2013
M. Sivananthan says “Only cow’s milk is good for human children”
There are disagreements i see when i google this statement.
Why M. Sivananthan doesn’t include goats in his campaign?
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M.Sivananthan / May 27, 2013
Goat milk never prescribed for small children!
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Jayantha / May 28, 2013
In Mongolia they give Horse and Lamb milk to their children and also make horse and lamb cheese and eat Horse and lamb Meat.
They are very strong and very peaceful people. They don’t preach 24 hour Bana and Kill innocent people. But live peacefully in very cold and isolated land.
Sri Lanka President is the most Corrupt crook do nothing Ponna…ya as our opposition leader.
No wonder country has gone to dogs.
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Sama / May 26, 2013
Leader of the National Freedom Front (NFF) Wimal Weerawansa today requested the President to immediately ban the slaughtering of cattle within the country.
In the wake of a Buddhist monk setting himself on fire yesterday to protest against the slaughter of cattle for meet, the Minister has written to President Mahinda Rajapaksa saying measures should be taken based on that incident.
The Minister of Construction, Engineering Services, Housing and Common Amenities further points out that the majority of the country’s Buddhist and Hindu people reject cattle slaughtering with disgust and that only a small group in Sri Lankan society approves of it.
He stated that in India, which has a majority of Hindu devotee, cattle slaughtering has been banned and that during festivals such as Thai Pongal they are kind enough to express gratitude to Cattle, who play an important role in the traditional Indian farmstead.
As such it is greatly disappointing that cattle slaughtering continues to take place in Sri Lanka, a country which boasts an agricultural economic design, says Weerawansa .
He therefore requests the President to take necessary measures to immediately ban cattle slaughtering in Sri Lanka.
This IS JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE WORRIED OF BEING SLAUGHTERED…. NFF AND MANY OF THEM IN THE CURRENT CABINETA ARE CATTLE… THEY ARE FEAR OF BEING KILLED IN THE FUTURE…
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DODU / May 26, 2013
He killed thousands of thousands innocent Buddhists youth when he was in JVP including monks! His close friend KARUNA killed counless number of Buddhists including infants and monks!his other buddy KP supplied arms to kill Sri Lankans. So, he is the best person in the world to preach Ahimsa. Now he has become the modern Asoka. For him past is past. For him the present is PAJARO, INTERCOOLER, BENZ, ALION….. POSH BANGALOWS, SERVENTS, BEEF BIRYANI….. But for the effected it is suffering for ever.
Anyway in India beef is freely available and there is no nationwide ban on it.
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Sama / May 26, 2013
We need to find whether he is at least current day vege ? Do you know anything about his eating patterns ? Most that loud are not vegs.. they just do so as PR issues. Most of the time time, Mervin did that… just ignored the press and the substance of any media statements, in the same time, with state patronage, his was polarised.. that is the nature of the politics that MR (former Rasthiyadu karayo of Beliattha village) added to our system. This common with PC level MPS too. Ministers just ignore what those PC level politicians have been carrying out – then the situation gradually becomes untouchable with the time. It is said that Mervin^s kind of extortions are made legal in Hikkaduwa area today.
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Jayantha / May 27, 2013
Why don’t all of them take the example of the self immulated monk and follow his foot steps.
Country will be a better place to live in peacefully then.
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Jayantha / May 27, 2013
Yes tell Tourists to eat the new Thanakola…..”Grass” Chow Miyang and “Polkudu seeni sambol wantons” Coconut dust wantons with the new receipee published by Health Minister.
How about the new UN insect curry.
2.6 million tourists in 2016.
[Edited out] New menu.
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Lester / May 26, 2013
Today I read about an Islamic woman in Dagestan who blew herself up, killing two policeman at a checkpoint. She could have tried self-immolation, like this monk… the point would have been made. But no, there is no such thing as peaceful jihad in Islam. Again, this just shows how much more enlightened the Eastern religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Taoism, etc.) are, compared to their Abrahamic counterparts Islam, Christianity, and Judaism.
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DODU / May 26, 2013
Of course Eastern religions are so enlightened! You guys will reborn as monkey, donkey, …. My worry is that one day you will come as a chicken to my dinner table and I will eat you. I do not wants that to happen – a pig becoming a chicken!
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I am no Muslim / May 26, 2013
Islam only pretend to be Abrahamic religion. Quran has put Muhammad in par with Allah. Quran persistently tell Muslims to emulate the example of Muhammad. And Muhammad spend more time talking against Jews and Christians and unbelievers than Allah. Quran says Allah do not like Munafiqin or kafir or unbelievers. Muhammad asked Muslims not to be friends with them and even slay them. Indeed, a great deal of the Quran is devoted to describing the horrible punishment that awaits those who refuse to become Muslim. Islamic terrorists call themselves Mujahideen, Shahid, or Fedayeen and say they are holy warriors and consider their acts to be a form of Jihad. So, a true Muslim believe he has reserved a place in Allah’s paradise where many virgins are awaiting for them. The Muslim woman that blew herself in Dagestan must be a virgin in heaven now serving Bin Ladden and et al.
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DODU / May 26, 2013
Hi, You are not a Mulim, Buddhists believe they will reborn as Animals in their next birth. that is the reason that they do not wants to get killed. Anyway, they will never reborn as a human(?). That is why they kill humans. Buddhist text also talks about non-believers.
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AYMAN / May 26, 2013
AS USUAL LESTERS BULL SHIT FROM A COWS ARSE.
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chatura / May 26, 2013
I suggest we offer gasoline as “Pirikara” to monks from now on.
So majority of the cows and sheep in this forum and who populate our miracle of Asia can sleep in peace knowing that “OUR” monks will protect us from harm.
Sadhu…sadhu…saaaaaaadhuuuuu.
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Sama / May 26, 2013
Then please first to BBS Leader and his adherent monks and lay people…
so that all normal buddhist can finally feel peace in their mind as had been in the past.
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Jayantha / May 28, 2013
Also a bottle of Kasippu and a Ganja suruttu to take them to early nirvana.
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chatura / May 26, 2013
SCOOP!!
Tomoorow at midnight Mahinda R is going to raise the price of gasoline.
Reason given is to save the buddha sasana and it’s guardins, the monks from self immolation.
God (monks) save the goats and cows!!
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chatura / May 26, 2013
Goat-abhaya has said anybody found with more than 1L of gasoline in his/her possetion will be arrested under PTA.
The minister of petrolium products will be sacked tomorrow morning.
CPC will import more stocks in anticipation of the higher demand from monks and laymen.
But…..the poor monk who immolated himself may have thought that the quality of gasoline is so low that it will never light like that!!!
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chatura / May 26, 2013
Tamilnadu culture is now adopted by Sinhala budhists????
Cross contamination of cultures at its purest.
Up to date I thought Sinhalese are different.
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Rifkha Roshanaara / May 26, 2013
I was thinking the same. It’s the Tamil Nadu culture.
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Native Vedda / May 26, 2013
chatura
“Tamilnadu culture is now adopted by Sinhala budhists????”
The ancestors of Sinhalese mostly came from Tamilnadu. When they came they also brought their stupid gene.
Is it a surprise that Sinhalese/Tamil follow the Tamilnadu?
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Amarasiri / May 26, 2013
Vhatura and Native Vedda,
Here is proof and the references.
The Tamils were a little smarter. They did not accept Buddhism lock, stock and barrel like the Sinhala Monk Mahanam myths and racism.
Is that the reason why there are hardly any Tamil Buddhists?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinhalese_people
Studies looking at the origin of the Sinhalese have been contradictory. Older studies suggest a predominantly Sri Lankan Tamil contribution followed by a significant Bengali contribution with no North Western Indian contribution,[47][48] while more modern studies point towards a predominantly Bengali contribution and a minor Tamil and North Western Indian (Gujarati & Punjabi) contribution.[49][50][51] Multiple studies have found no significant genetic difference between the Sinhalese and the three other major ethnic groups in Sri Lanka (Sri Lankan Tamil, Indian Tamil and Sri Lankan Moor).[48][52][53][54][55][56]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genographic_Project
The Genographic Project, launched on 13 April 2005 by the National Geographic Society and IBM, is a multi-year genetic anthropology study that aims to map historical human migration patterns by collecting and analyzing DNA samples from hundreds of thousands of people from around the world.[1]
Southern India gene pool
Southwest Asian 58#
Southeast Asian 35%
Mediterranean 4%
Northern European, 2%
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liyanage / May 26, 2013
May the venerable monk attain Nibbana!I am in deep sorrow. But he died for a worthwhile cause.
The Buddha said “”Cattle are our friends, just like parents and other relatives, for cultivation depends upon them. They give food, strength, freshness of complexion and happiness. Knowing this, Brahmins of old did not kill cattle “. Sutta nipata, 295-6).
The Muslims will now cry Buddhist chauvanism arguing that the butchers in Sri Lanka are Muslim, that Buddhist animal rights activists first protested against Halal and now will turn their attention to ban cow slaughter, blah blah
As a Buddhist, we will need to teach compassion and ahimsa to the followers of Islam. This is in the interests of global peace. Look at what happened to the poor English soldier who was beheaded by Muslims in broad day light in Woolwich London. And compassion starts with non violence against poor, mute animals who are subject to a barbarity in the name of Halal.
Four of the five bombs detonated in the world today are by Muslim militants. Look at the non stop murders and killing that is happening in the name of Islam in Niger, Mali, Somalia, Egypt, Libya, Syria, southern Thailand, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Chechnya etc. Those who reject the word of Allah are described in the Koran as unbelievers and infidels. In fact, Koran devotes 61% of its space to infidels. Koran 7:176-9 dehumanizes non-Muslims as vile Animals. 4:101 says, unbelievers are unto you open enemies. Koran 8:38-9 says; Non-Muslims are to be fought until religion is only for Allah. Likewise, there are as many as 109 verses in the Koran that call Muslims to fight war with non-believers for the sake of Islamic rule and to recruit new followers. We therefore need to teach the Muslims the Dhamma and compassion – karuna and metta.
bhavatu sabba mangalam, rakhantu sabba devata
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Zaid / May 26, 2013
Why don’t you start with teaching Ahimsa to the Buddhist in this country ?
Firstly, put your house in order before you try to change the world !! !
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l / May 27, 2013
In general Buddhists doesn’t like to watch animals being slaughtered. In the West, many who witnessed animal slaughter become vegetarians.
In many Muslim homes in Sri Lanka, however slaughter of animals occurs at home, in front of the children. In many cases, the children hold the legs of the animal in order to immobilize it during slaughter. They just watch slaughtering during Eid al-Adha with a giggle. No wonder, Muslims are not moved by the blood dripping from the animal’s neck and are not frightened by its snorts and struggles. Soon killings become nothing for them.
Not only Buddhists westerners too feel slaughter is barbaric, whereas Moslem view it as proper and commendable when carried out within the proper context. Therefore, slaughtering a Jew, a Christian, Hindu, Buddhist or anyone seen as an enemy is not considered unusual for a Koran believing Muslim. One can read the mindset of Muslim from their comments here. Sinhalas and Tamils better wakeup for the reality!
Leela
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Zaid / May 27, 2013
You and your society has been showing your mindset – every action has a reaction.
Stop the slaughter of the cattle but continue with thuggery, murder and what not.
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spectator / May 27, 2013
do i see leela having attempted a name change? was it out of practice that he wrote Leela at the bottom? :D is that shortage of human resource in his recent islamophobia enterprise? but the climate is good enough to start another lee potter scandal?
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priya / May 28, 2013
Hitler was a vegetarian and how many jews did he slaughter- Sorry they were not slaughtered but gassed. There was a sri lankan leader who was responsible for wiping out the JVPs in a horrible fashion, but he was a vegetarian. He goes to the temples. Being a vegetarian does not mean that they would not hesitate to kill a human being. From these I understand that not killing animal doesn’t mean that they will not kill human beings. Some would not kill even a cockroach in the house, but will not voice protests if a human being who is not following an opposing ideology is killed for that reason. Certainly we endorse our protest against animal slaughter( though we may not practice immolation) but we never protested against killing Sinhala and Tamil youths in our past. That is considered Buddhist Jihaad.
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Lester / May 26, 2013
Liyanage is correct. Most non-Muslims do not know how halal meat is produced. The animal’s throat is cut, and it is allowed to bleed to death very slowly. This is obviously a painful and barbaric way to die.
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Zaid / May 27, 2013
Your death will be equally painful Leela/Lester – remember the curse of the people you played out !!!
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ahmad / May 27, 2013
Once again, you are ignorant – This is the LEAST painful way to die.
When they slit the throat,the Juggular vein the central nervous system (nerves) connecting the brain to the rest of the body is slit.
As a the nerves are slit, the brain does not get the signals of pain that are transmitted from the rest of the body. Therefore the brain does not sense pain. It is the least painful way to die. That is the whole reason, we are asked to eat meat slaughtered in ONLY this way as opposed to animals being shot, electricuted or hacked to death.
This is the scientific basis of halal slaughter (there is more if you have the time)
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Lester / May 27, 2013
Rubbish. Halal and Kosher have been scientifically proven to cause great amounts of pain to the animal. When the nerves of the throat are cut, the animal feels severe pain till the very end.
Brain signals have shown that calves do appear to feel pain when slaughtered according to Jewish and Muslim religious law, strengthening the case for adapting the practices to make them more humane.
“I think our work is the best evidence yet that it’s painful,” says Craig Johnson, who led the study at Massey University in Palmerston North, New Zealand.
The team first cut calves’ throats in a procedure matching that of Jewish and Muslim slaughter methods. They detected a pain signal lasting for up to 2 minutes after the incision. When their throats are cut, calves generally lose consciousness after 10 to 30 seconds, sometimes longer…
Cut-throat practice
The researchers then showed that the pain originates from cutting throat nerves, not from the loss of blood, suggesting the severed nerves send pain signals until the time of death. Finally, they stunned animals 5 seconds after incision and showed that this makes the pain signal disappear instantly.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17972-animals-feel-the-pain-of-religious-slaughter.html
This is exactly the kind of medieval barbarism which the monk was protesting. He probably did not know the scientific details, but the experimental proof is nevertheless there.
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Holy Cow / May 26, 2013
May he be re-incarnated with a brain the next time!
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MNZ / May 26, 2013
What is the Buddhist view on suicide, especially of a monk?
In this case it was purely a socio-political rather than a personal issue which led to this unfortunate incident.
Is there a difference in perspective with regard to the concept of rebirth in such an instance?
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Ravi ratnayake / May 26, 2013
How can this silly monk stop the slaughter of millions of cattle daily for human consumption in the world by comiting suicide, when this has been a practice since humans became herdsman.I don’t eat beef myself, but could the government stop the import of beef for consumption in all eating houses including tourist hotels, Mac Donalds for example and cold stores in this country.this like asking all humans to be vegetarians ,while Homo sapiens has been an omniverous species throughout history. In the natural world sentimentality stops when it comes to survival of the species.
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Amarasiri / May 26, 2013
Ravi Ratnsyake
The number of cattle slaughtered worldwide.
http://www.indexmundi.com/agriculture/?commodity=cattle&graph=total-slaughter
Rank Country Total Slaughter (1000 HEAD)
1 India 42,100.00 (Country of Buddha;s Birth, Hindu)
2 China 40,900.00 (“Buddhist” Country)
3 Brazil 40,300.00
4 United States 32,612.00
5 EU-27 27,300.00
6 Argentina 12,400.00
7 Australia 8,100.00
8 Russian Federation 6,800.00
9 Mexico 6,300.00
10 Colombia 4,300.00
11 New Zealand 4,146.00
12 Canada 2,985.00
13 Ukraine 2,390.00
14 Uruguay 2,230.00
15 Venezuela 1,550.00
16 Egypt 1,340.00 ( Muslim)
17 Belarus 1,205.00
18 Japan 1,155.00 (“Buddhist”)
19 Korea, Republic Of 938.00
Year of Estimate: 2013
Source: United States Department of Agriculture
See also: Commodity prices
See also: Commodities market
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Kamal / May 27, 2013
OMG!
Cap De Silva says, “..More can come from a sacrifice than talking…”
Hurry up, let us all immolate so that all these innocent cattle be saved!
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Citizen / May 26, 2013
May he attain Nibanna.
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K.A Sumanasekera / May 26, 2013
Pro LTTE Norwagian Eric Solheim lead “IC” who are sponsoring these monks, kill more than a Million, one year old cattle and few month old babies (Calves,) every day.
They send millions more on long voyages in cramped cargo holds to be slaughtered by Muslims,and feed even their enemy Jihadis.
Couldn’t this Monk keep his precious life to protest, when these “IC
” Brigades ” come over with Ms Pillai’s Flag to rearrange and peg the boundaries of this 2500 year old Buddhist Land?.
What a waste !1
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Amarasiri / May 26, 2013
Sumanasekera,
This was a 18,000 year old Veddah Land
This was a 5,000 year old Yakka and Naga Land
This was a 3,000 year old Jain and Hindu Land
This was only a 2,300 year old Buddhist Land, with Monk Hegemony, still with its Hinduism and Yakka beliefs,
Bali Island was and us peaceful, 94% Hindus, 1% Buddhists and 2% Muslims,
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champuke / May 26, 2013
Lester ,
looks no body takes you serious , [Edited out]
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Sangakkara / May 26, 2013
i wonder if the monk really wanted to set fire on himself or to threaten people and his plan back fired on him? People with clear thinking and a stable mind can never do what he did.
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Rifkha Roshanaara / May 26, 2013
I too wonder.
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Lanka Muslim, UK / May 26, 2013
According to a latest report the Sinhala Ravaya organization wants the Govt. to ban liquor, casinos,etc. As this is a good move in the interest of all the people in the country a group of us Muslims in the UK are prepared to go to Sri Lanka and support this campaign.
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Kap / May 26, 2013
Good News ..Let’s Encourage Another monk to sacrifice to ban Alcohol in Sri Lanka..Sinhala Rawaya..Please Come forward.
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crazyoldmansl / May 26, 2013
Coming soon. The banning of cattle slaughter in Sri Lanka by December 21st 2013. All meat will be imported from 1st January 2014. A special chamber of commerce for meat importers will be set up to issues “Not Slaughtered in Sri Lanka” certificates to meat importers. Certificate fees will start at LKR 10 million and proceeds will go to you know who.
By December 2014 the slaughter of birds and fish will also be banned in Sri Lanka. Meat importers – though not buddhists themselves – will become ardent supporters of the Buddhist philosophy. Camel meat and Kangaroo meat as well as whale meat, Dolphin meat, Dog and Cat meat and even some horse meat and Rat meat and probably lots of Snake meat as well will be imported and Sri Lanka will become the multi meat capital of the world to which meat eaters will flock to on meat eating tours.
All will celebrate the creative and noble thinking of the great Sri Lankan Sinhala Buddhist “Race” and they will all acknowledge that it is the only race that is better than the Global Rat Race.
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Mueez / May 26, 2013
First of all let me tell I join all those morners of the unfortunate death of the Ver. Humuduruvo.
I also won’t to explain how correct Hamudurovo was in his decision.
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First and foremost will discuss the concept of buddism which request not to kill animals.
“Panathi Patha Vermany Sikhapadhan Smadhiyani” – which means Never kill an Animal which has life”
Logic – “Creature which has life” – Includes all vegitabals – Any animals ( Modern science proves it )
Question what you have left to eat ?
I know bro – Yeah, the attitude of Buddist towards this is – Whatever it is , it is ( does ) not ( mean )it.
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Second how fine it is to say we should not meat ( Whether it is Mutton, Chicken or beef )
Logic – EATING NON-VEGETARIAN FOOD ( will discuss mostly Islamic perspective )
Question:
Killing an animal is a ruthless act. Why then do you people consume non-vegetarian food?
Answer:
‘Vegetarianism’ is now a movement the world over. Many even associate it with animal rights. Indeed, a large number of people consider the consumption of meat and other non-vegetarian products to be a violation of animal rights.
Islam and many other riligions enjoins mercy and compassion for all living creatures.
Let us look at various other aspects of this argument.
1. A Muslim can be a pure vegetarian
A Muslim can be a very good Muslim despite being a pure vegetarian. It is not compulsory for a Muslim to have non-vegetarian food.
2. Qur’an permits Muslims to have non-vegetarian food
The Qur’an, however permits a Muslim to have non-vegetarian food. The following Qur’anic verses are proof of this fact:
“O ye who believe! Fulfil (all) obligations. Lawful unto you (for food) are all four-footed animals with the exceptions named.” [Al-Qur’an 5:1]
“And cattle He has created for you (men): from them Ye derive warmth, and numerous benefits, And of their (meat) ye eat.” [Al-Qur’an 16:5]
“And in cattle (too) ye have an instructive example: From within their bodies We produce (milk) for you to drink; there are, in them, (besides), numerous (other) benefits for you; and of their (meat) ye eat.” [Al-Qur’an 23:21]
3. Meat is nutritious and rich in complete protein
Non-vegetarian food is a good source of excellent protein. It contains biologically complete protein i.e. all the 8 essential amino acid that are not synthesized by the body and should be supplied in the diet. Meat also contains iron, vitamin BI and niacin.
4.Humans have Omnivorous set of teeth
If you observe the teeth of herbivorous animals like the cow, goat and sheep, you will find something strikingly similar in all of them. All these animals have a set of flat teeth i.e. suited for herbivorous diet. If you observe the set of teeth of the carnivorous animals like the lion, tiger, or leopard, they all have a set of pointed teeth i.e. suited for a carnivorous diet. If you analyze the set of teeth of humans, you find that they have flat teeth as well as pointed teeth. Thus they have teeth suited for both herbivorous as well as carnivorous food i.e. they are omnivorous. One may ask, if Almighty God wanted humans to have only vegetables, why did He provide us also with pointed teeth? It is logical that He expected us to need and to have both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food.
5. Human beings can digest both vege-tarian and non-vegetarian food
The digestive system of herbivorous animals can digest only vegetables. The digestive system of carnivorous animals can digest only meat. But the digestive system of humans can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food. If Almighty God wanted us to have only vegetables then why did He give us a digestive system that can digest both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food?
6. Hindu scriptures give permission to have non-vegetarian food
a. There are many Hindus who are strictly vegetarian. They think it is against their religion to consume non-vegetarian food. But the true fact is that the Hindu scriptures permit a person to have meat. The scriptures mention Hindu sages and saints consuming non-vegetarian food.
b. It is mentioned in Manu Smruti, the law book of Hindus, in chapter 5 verse 30 “The eater who eats the flesh of those to be eaten does nothing bad, even if he does it day after day, for God himself created some to be eaten and some to be eater.”
c. Again next verse of Manu Smruti, that is, chapter 5 verse 31 says
“Eating meat is right for the sacrifice, this is traditionally known as a rule of the gods.”
d. Further in Manu Smruti chapter 5 verse 39 and 40 says
“God himself created sacrificial animals for sacrifice, … , therefore killing in a sacrifice is not killing.”
e. Mahabharata Anushashan Parva chapter 88 narrates the discussion between Dharmaraj Yudhishthira and Pitamah Bhishma about what food one should offer to Pitris (ancestors) during the Shraddha (ceremony of dead) to keep them satisfied. Paragraph reads as follows:
“Yudhishthira said, “0 thou of great puissance, tell me what that object is which, if dedicated to the Pitiris (dead ancestors), become inexhaustible! What Havi, again, (if offered) lasts for all time? What, indeed, is that which (if presented) becomes eternal?”
“Bhishma said, “Listen to me, 0 Yudhishthira, what those Havis are which persons conversant with the rituals of the Shraddha (the ceremony of dead) regard as suitable in view of Shraddha and what the fruits are that attach to each. With sesame seeds and rice and barely and Masha and water and roots and fruits, if given at Shraddhas, the pitris, 0 king, remain gratified for the period of a month. With fishes offered at Shraddhas, the pitris remain gratified for a period of two months. With the mutton they remain gratified for three months and with the hare for four months, with the flesh of the goat for five months, with the bacon (meat of pig) for six months, and with the flesh of birds for seven. With venison obtained from those deer that are called Prishata, they remaingratified for eight months, and with that obtained from the Ruru for nine months, and with the meat of Gavaya for ten months, With the meat of the bufffalo their gratification lasts for eleven months. With beef presented at the Shraddha, their gratification, it is said, lasts for a full year. Payasa mixed with ghee is as much acceptable to the pitris as beef. With the meat of Vadhrinasa (a large bull) the gratification of pitris lasts for twelve years. the flesh of rhinoceros, offered to the pitris on anniversaries of the lunar days on which they died, becomes inexhaustible. The potherb called Kalaska, the petals of kanchana flower, and meat of (red) goat also, thus offered, prove inexhaustible.
So but natural if you want to keep your ancestors satisfied forever, you should serve them the meat of red goat.
7. Hinduism was influenced by other religions
Though Hindu Scriptures permit its followers to have non-vegetarian food, many
Hindus adopted the vegetarian system because they were influenced by other
religions like Jainism.
8. Even plants have life
Certain religions have adopted pure vegetarianism as a dietary law because they are totally against the killing of living creatures. If a person can survive without killing any living creature, I would be the first person to adopt such a way of life. In the past people thought plants were lifeless. Today it is a universal fact that even plants have life. Thus their logic of not killing living creatures is not fulfilled even by being a pure vegetarian.
9. Even plants can feel pain
They further argue that plants cannot feel pain, therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime as compared to killing an animal. Today science tells us that even plants can feel pain. But the cry of the plant cannot be heard by the human being. This is due to the inability of the human ear to hear sounds that are not in the audible range i.e. 20 Hertz to 20,000 Hertz. Anything below and above this range cannot be heard by a human being. A dog can hear up to 40,000 Hertz. Thus there are silent dog whistles that have a frequency of more than 20,000 Hertz and less than 40,000 Hertz. These whistles are only heard by dogs and not by human beings. The dog recognizes the masters whistle and comes to the master. There was research done by a farmer in U.S.A. who invented an instrument which converted the cry of the plant so that it could be heard by human beings. He was able to realize immediately when the plant itself cried for water. Latest researches show that the plants can even feel happy and sad. It can also cry.
10. Killing a living creature with two senses less is not a lesser crime
Once a vegetarian argued his case by saying that plants only have two or three senses while the animals have five senses. Therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime than killing an animal. Suppose your brother is born deaf and dumb and has two senses less as compared to other human beings. He becomes mature and someone murders him. Would you ask the judge to give the murderer a lesser punishment because your brother has two senses less? In fact you would say that he has killed a masoom, an innocent person, and the judge should give the murderer a greater punishment.
In fact the Qur’an says:
“O ye people! Eat of what is on earth, lawful and good” [Al-Qur’an 2:168]
11. Over population of cattle
If every human being was a vegetarian, it would lead to overpopulation of cattle in the world, since their reproduction and multiplication is very swift. Allah (swt) in His Divine Wisdom knows how to maintain the balance of His creation appropriately. No wonder He has permitted us to have the meat of the cattle.
12. Cost of meat is reasonable since all aren’t non-vegetarians
I do not mind if some people are pure vegetarians. However they should not condemn non-vegetarians as ruthless. In fact if all Indians become nonvegetarians then the present non-vegetarians would be losers since the prices of meat would rise.
Question – No question ?
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Thirdly – How correct a Hamudurovo’s decision to quite his life ?
Logic – Will a religion ( sorry it is not ) which preaches non-violance and against killing of animals permit a person to quite his life.
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I this this is the forum which is full of educated and from good background unlike other where people discuss filthy to filthy and utter foolishness.
Please put you comments if any either fore or against we will discuss.
Thank You.
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Cheena / May 26, 2013
Mueez,
Do you know who wrote all those books that you just mentioned? It is exactly people like you who think everything and every being on this earth is for your consumption! No distinction is hard to draw between you and a carnivorous animal!
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spectator / May 26, 2013
i get some of your arguments. but i don’t buy that plants have feelings too argument when you use it to justify animal slaughter. although plants exhibit what are transitional forms of consciousness between material objects and fully functional conscious animals, with their sensory motor networks, what we see as pain and suffering and self awareness aren’t quite the same in such primitive systems found in plants, or even today’s robotic systems. there is cooperation in plant systems, but that’s nothing different from an ant colony being able to find the shortest path to the food source from their colony. flocks of birds and schools of fishes exhibit such emergent intelligent behavior, which we can directly attribute to the nature of the differential equations governing the dynamics involved, although animals are technically the same in essence. braitenberg wrote a beautiful book to demonstrate how he could theoretically simulate basic psychological behavioral elements by using combinations of elementary sensory motor connections in his little vehicles and he called what he did as synthetic psychology. one can then argue humans are a sophisticated network of individual cells, with each cell having no idea what it’s contributing towards, and that the whole notion of consciousness is nothing but an apparent phenomenon, just like waves in media, from a deterministic world view or a mechanical viewpoint, but we are talking about pain and suffering from a higher level layer (as in computer program interpretation levels) where we define free will as a meaningful idea, just like photons being one of the elementary constituents of the matter-energy duality.
you could rather say, just because i stopped eating animals, or even if the whole humanity stops doing that, food chains in nature aren’t going to shrink into two nodes, i.e. the effort towards banning animal food is technically pointless. it’s an issue of limitations on morality rather than of a technical topic.
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Jayantha / May 27, 2013
At the moment (70%) Seventy Percent of our Children are Malnutrition. They do not get the daily minimum Calories, Proteins, Minerals and Vitamins.
Also (60%) Sixty percent of Adult population is Under nourished.
(70%) Seventy percent of our women go to Middle East are going to have a square meal of food which they do not get at home.
Look at the sizes of these Buddhist Priests. Can you call them Vegetarians. They look like over fed Studs compared to the average size of the population.
This is the Game they Play after eating endless Chinese Buffet, KFC, McDonalds, Pizza. Hamburger, Barbeque pork and Hot Dogs in USA. See the size of Galboda Athe Gnarasara Thero. What is his waist size……the drunkared.
SRI LANKA JUST WITNESSED THE FIRST SINHALA BUDDHIST TALIBAN SUICIDE BOMBER.
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Gerard Thurai / May 26, 2013
So sad!
This poor man’s faith is strong but misguided.
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Prabath Kumara / May 26, 2013
DID YOU KNOW THAT ???
This is the priest who led the attacks on the Weeraketiya church that resulted in destroying a whole building?
This is the priest who threatened the pastor with death if he returned to Weeraketiya?
This is the priest whose attack caused the wife of the pastor to be hospitalized for an eye operation?
This is the priest who led many attacks on small churches in the Hambantota didtrict?
This is the priest who was warned by a man of God “God will lay hands on those who lay hands on God’s people” and his response was “මම ඒක දෙවියො එක්ක බලා ගන්නම් – I will deal with God”
NO – GOD DID NOT KILL HIM
The devil did – he used him and finally killed him.
This is a warning to those who attack churches and men of God – TOUCH NOT THE LORD’S ANOINTED
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Kovoor / May 26, 2013
Wow! So why did He wait so long until Pol Pot had killed 1m and Hitler 6m and Stalin and the JVP and our pal VP and Mao and Genghis Khan etc etc etc? As for the devil, he is God’s creation too. Why doesn’t God just get rid of the devil?
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spectator / May 26, 2013
1. God of Abrahamic religions didn’t guarantee justice in this world. The very story of God saving the child Moses alone from the Paraoh of exodus while the other male children were killed is a perfect example.
2. The problem of evil is an essence of life on earth. it’s the basic ingredient in the test for obedience.
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Rifkha Roshanaara / May 26, 2013
If this is true, the monk has done a big favor to those who are into proselytizing ! I can very well see the signs. How sad and pathetic that is !
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spectator / May 26, 2013
when they keep their charity within their own community, you call them separatists, selfish and non-integrating ones. when they take your kids too to their orphanages when you don’t feed them as a community for ages, you call them proselytizers. it’s simply your hatred or a way of letting your personal grievances out. the word is hypocrisy.
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spectator / May 26, 2013
in a liberal civilized world, one’s religion is a personal choice, not dictated by one’s birth.
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Mohamed Marzook / May 26, 2013
Having done all these crimes he perhaps realised that he does not deserve living any more decided to commit suicide but the excuse is opposing animal slaughter. Funny.
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DODU / May 26, 2013
IPriyantha, if it is so it is Buddha’s work, It is not God’s work. It is his Karma. By now he would have reborn as …..l
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spectator / May 26, 2013
as a son of a poor butcher, who simply caters for the market demand( the major portion of which still comes from the sinhala buddhist community) by slaughtering cows sent to him by sinhala buddhist farmers from anuradhapura and suburbs, and then supplies to the market in dematagoda?
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Jayantha / May 27, 2013
SRI LANKA JUST WITNESSED THE FIRST EVER “SINHALA BUDDHIST RAWAYA SUICIDE BOMBER”.
More to follow.
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salmaj / June 3, 2013
This is the priest who took out his robes to show his whatever at Dambulla mosque incident. He was also corrupt, took money promising jobs. I wonder whether such a corrupt person who liked the world and money, would commit suicide. I am sure he wanted to pour kerosene and then not light the fire but did somebody else do the job for him. Didn’t any of those onlookers tried to stop him. Did he think that people will douse the flames before long and he will survive.
I have a feeling he never expected to die but to survive to become a hero.
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Toppy Poppy / May 26, 2013
Cant feel sorry for this foolish monk. Not a nice way to go. But at least less trouble for the others because no need for cremation. Already barbecued.
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Kalal / May 26, 2013
According to Buddhism, individuals’ past acts heavily influence what they experience in the present; present acts, in turn, become the background influence for future experiences (the doctrine of karma). Intentional action by mind, body or speech have a reaction. This reaction, or repercussion, is the cause of conditions and differences one encounters in life.
Buddhism teaches that all people experience substantial suffering (dukkha), in which suffering primarily originates from past negative deeds (karma), or may result as a natural process of the cycle of birth and death (samsara). Other reasons for the prevalence of suffering concern the concepts of impermanence and illusion (maya). Since everything is in a constant state of impermanence or flux, individuals experience dissatisfaction with the fleeting events of life. To break out of samsara, Buddhism advocates the Noble Eightfold Path.
For Buddhists, since the first precept is to refrain from the destruction of life, including one’s self, suicide is seen as a negative act. If someone commits suicide in anger, he may be reborn in a sorrowful realm due to negative final thoughts.[15][16] However, unlike Christianity and other religions, Buddhism does not condemn suicide, but rather states that the reasons for suicide are often negative and thus counteract the path to enlightenment.[17]
There is one Buddhist tale of a bhikkhu named Godhika[18] who had repeatedly attained temporary liberation of mind but was unable to gain final liberation due to illness.[18] Godhika chose to take his own life while in a state of temporary liberation to be reborn in a high realm.[18] The Buddha was quoted as saying
Such indeed is how the steadfast act:
They are not attached to life.
Having drawn out craving at its root
Godhika has attained final Nibbaana.[18]
There is a similar story of a bhikkhu named Vakkali who committed suicide upon becoming an arhant.[18] Ultimately, tales like these point to a Buddhist belief that suicide may be acceptable (“good”) if it will lead to non-attachment. However, people who have achieved enlightenment do not commit suicide. In both above cases they were not enlightened before attempting suicide but they became enlightened during or following their deaths.[19]
In an entry in the The Encyclopedia of Religion, Marilyn J. Harran wrote the following:
Buddhism in its various forms affirms that, while suicide as self-sacrifice may be appropriate for the person who is an arhat, one who has attained enlightenment, it is still very much the exception to the rule[20]
The Channovàda-sutra gives yet another example of an arhant who committed suicide.[21]
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