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Freedom Of Speech In Sri Lanka: Colombo Telegraph And Groundviews

By Michael O’Leary

Michael O’Leary

There are in Sri Lanka two main websites which give the opportunity for members of the reading public to participate in debate. Both publish high quality articles by distinguished contributors which shed light on many issues relating to Sri Lanka. Very often, great enlightenment is to be gained from a reading of the exchanges in the comment threads.

Commenters are allowed to participate using pseudonyms. Many claim that they must use false names because they fear for their own safety or the safety of their families. Many use the cloak of pseudonymity as license for frivolity or vicious abuse.

Moderation among moderators

The guidelines of Groundviews state: “The tone we seek in our online discussions is closer to the kind of collegial exchange you’d share with someone from your workplace, group of friends or home. That means focusing on the substance of arguments as opposed to their presenters. It also means avoiding insults and other forms of ad hominem comments…”
They say they will not tolerate: “comments that are off topic, defamatory, abusive, threatening or an invasion of privacy”.

Reactions to Marga Institute

I recently posted an article on Groundviews.

My main theme was the depressing nature of comments on what seemed to be a well-intentioned initiative by the Marga Institute. “Why should a plea for atonement, remembrance, mourning, accountability, reconciliation be met with anger? The Marga Institute itself was smeared, without any substantiating evidence, with being ‘sleazy’ government apologists.” I mentioned that Rwanda had achieved some measure of reconciliation, through, among other things, suppressing hate speech. However, I concluded: “Vicious verbal battles similar to those on Groundviews and Colombo Telegraph between Tamil separatists and Sinhala chauvinists would not be allowed in Rwanda. Censorship for the maintenance of ethnic harmony is a quagmire. It should not be tried in Sri Lanka whatever happens in Rwanda.”

Protect your identity

The very first comment revealed that my real name is Michael O’Leary. Several commenters who persistently attack me pounced on this “revelation”. “A man with multiple identities hiding behind multiple names!”
I asked GV editor Sanjana Hattotuwa about this. “I cannot recall when you asked me to keep it secret?” In a more recent e-mail, he seemed to be saying that, as I had made no secret of my real name in correspondence with him and others, and as others had subsequently commented on Groundviews “that your multiple identities are in fact well publicized on the web through your own blog”, it was perfectly legitimate to “out” me. Notice the smear implicit in “multiple identities”. I write under two names. My identity is consistent.

Sanjana clearly knows how to get in touch with me when it suits him. Would it have been so difficult for him to send me a message saying: “I have just received a comment which mentions your real name. How do you feel about that?”

Comments unrelated

Whatever about the ethics of “revealing” my “real” identity, my identity had nothing to do with the topic under discussion. At the last count there were 35 comments. Not a single one dealt with the subject matter of my article.

Censorship?

Comments continue to be made. However, two comments that I was informed about privately have still not appeared. The first was from someone I have met in real life. The second was from someone I have only encountered through comment threads. This is what the latter said: “I left a comment on GV asking why these people commenting under pseudonyms want you shut out from GV when they really don’t mind reading Veluppillai Thangavelu, Usha S Sri-Skanda-Rajah, E A V Naganathan, etc.

However, the comment got moderated out! Seems Sanjana Hattotuwa doesn’t want me questioning the hypocrisy and intolerance of “Dev”, “J Fernando”, “Pubudu”, “Inoka Karu”, etc. My comment was not slander, not racist, not irrelevant and so on. It was just two sentences of very good English! Anyways, I have little trust in men like Sanjana and Uvindu. I don’t think they practice the ideals they preach. I think they too seek power but not for the people they claim to speak for but for themselves. Please do keep writing.” Sanjana’s response was: “Given the sheer amount of comment spam the site gets daily (a common problem on the web, and unrelated to any specific individual), I cannot and do not check the Spam folder anymore. Legit comments do end up as tagged as Spam, for any number of technical reasons (e.g. the most common being an IP addressed associated with Spam. This does not mean said individual is a spammer, rather, that the IP range – which could be an office or even an internet service provider – has a history of originating spam comments).”

I leave it to readers to interpret that.

I told Sanjana, that I no longer wanted anything to do with Groundviews. However, I felt that I needed to rebut the slurs against my integrity. “Allow me a valedictory coda. Most of the commenters here do not discuss the article but engage in ad hominem attacks. This nicely illustrates the point I am trying to get across.”

Sanjana’s reaction to this was: “‘For someone who petulantly said he was ‘finished with Groundviews’ is there any reason to publish your comment?’” I said I felt I had the right to a final reply. He responded: “I see no reason to at all. You unilaterally and unequivocally said you are finished with Groundviews. The matter ends there for me. The web’s an open place – and you can follow the example of so many others over seven years and choose to raise your concerns in other web fora and channels. Good night and good luck”.  There is a very important distinction between me saying I do not intend to write for Groundviews anymore and Groundviews continuing to allow hostile off-topic comments while denying me the right of reply. The latter is censorship.
A distinguished person reacted to this fiasco by saying: “It is a sad day for Sri Lanka when a civil libertarian and crusading agency decides to display pique, throw away etiquette and gag arguments that do not suit its leanings.”

*The Nation is aware that both GV and CT are considered ‘controversial’ websites which tend to favor commentary by those who are regarded by some, especially those branded as ‘nationalists’ by the operators of the two sites, as being ‘traitors’ and ‘regime-haters’.  However, The Nation is of the view that argument should be bested by arguments.  The Nation futher believes that it is erroneous to adopt a ‘black-white’ position on anything.  While there are websites that are one-sided, these are found on both sides of the broad political divide.  While Sanjana Hattotuwa has contributed views for The Nation, we have used material mined off Wikileaks by Uvindu Kurukulasuriya.  The ‘multiple identities’ is not an issue for us.  We focus on content first, author later, if at all. – Editor-in-Chief – The Nation

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    O’Leary quotes:

    “A distinguished person reacted to this fiasco by saying: “It is a sad day for Sri Lanka when a civil libertarian and crusading agency decides to display pique, throw away etiquette and gag arguments that do not suit its leanings.”

    A “distiguishe person” ???!!!. He ha no name?He wants to hide too?

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      Not only the “distiguishe person” but the writer too. I never knew Padraig Colman’s name is Michael O’Leary.

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    Now 37 comments there. WTF he is talking about? I think all comments are relevant.
    http://groundviews.org/2013/07/15/citizen-journalism-and-the-numbers-game/

    37 Comments
    Colombo Telegraph
    07/15/2013 • 2:46 pm
    Kath Noble recently published two articles in The Island, which were reproduced on Colombo Telegraph.?????

    We don’t reproduce Kath’s articles. Check you facts please.

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    Padraig Colman
    07/15/2013 • 6:09 pm
    http://www.island.lk/index.php?page_cat=article-details&page=article-details&code_title=82664

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    Colombo Telegraph
    07/15/2013 • 7:20 pm
    So? What we say is we don’t reproduce her articles. We don’t take them from Island.

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    Padraig Colman
    07/16/2013 • 8:49 am
    @ CT

    I hear the deafening sound of hairs being split!

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    Padraig Colman
    07/15/2013 • 7:05 pm
    https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/this-is-no-game/

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    Colombo Telegraph
    07/15/2013 • 7:19 pm
    So? What we say is we don’t reproduce her articles. We don’t take them from Island.

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    Kath Noble
    07/15/2013 • 9:33 pm
    The articles were published both in The Island and on Colombo Telegraph.

    The Island: http://www.island.lk/index.php?page_cat=article-details&page=article-details&code_title=82664 and http://www.island.lk/index.php?page_cat=article-details&page=article-details&code_title=83162

    Colombo Telegraph: https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/this-is-no-game/ and https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/a-genuinely-credible-estimate/

    Thanks to both publications for their tolerance.

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    Padraig Colman
    07/16/2013 • 8:40 am
    An entity describing itself as “Colombo Telegraph” made the first comment in this thread. It said: “Do you research”. My research had indicated that Colombo Telegraph was run by Uvindu Kurukulasuriya. Before posting this article, I wrote to him asking for information and clarification. His initial response was “No problem”. Eventually he said “Not interested. Too busy”. He told me to write to “Colombo Telegraph”. I did so and got this response: “Sorry, CT is not belong to your interpretation.” When I persisted, the person, who refused to give a name, said “No time”.

    “Do you research” ?! I tried,

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    Colombo Telegraph
    07/16/2013 • 1:12 pm
    You tried??????

    “Kath Noble recently published two articles in The Island, which were reproduced on Colombo Telegraph”

    Have you researched about the above statement? The answer is no!!

    Yes, you wrote to us, but that 14 email conversation has no connection with Kath’s articles. So we are not going to discuss something irrelevant to this article here.

    Kind request; don’t mislead GV readers.

    BTW, we checked your statement with Uvindu and he said that a person called Michael O’Leary wrote to him and asked about CT, then he replied “No problem, but tell me who you are.” Then you said it is Padraig Colman
    Then Uvindu asked “Is it? then why two names and two emails? ”

    You wrote; ” I did not think that it was a mystery that the name on my bank account is Michael O’Leary and that I write under the name Padraig Colman….”

    Yes you are correct, he was willing to help you, but he found that you have multiple identities. He said that he wrote to you; “but today I found you have two identities, I suspect may be more…..Send me a photo ID, then I may be able to answer.”

    The whole email exchange was about CT and not about Kath’s articles. So readers can decide.

    Sorry GV readers for this irrelevant discussion.

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    Inoka Karu
    07/16/2013 • 10:00 pm
    So now the truth is coming out and the credibility of Michael O’Leary AKA Padraig Colman AKA (+++ other identities) is starting to be revealed and is GV going to continue to provide space for this character???

    [Edited out]

    While I usually disagree with J Fernando, but I too wonder what this guys background is (when he himself says he is not a journalist) so what credibility does he possess ?

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    Manjula
    07/19/2013 • 11:30 am
    What “extra” reputation would a “journalist” have on top of a “writer”? To me, most of the journalists write with an “agenda” and therefore have zero “reputation” from readers wthout an agenda.

    J Fernando
    07/16/2013 • 11:03 pm
    Wow, not sure what will come out next! This guy who accuses all of being merely “keyboard warriors” is himself a man with multiple identities hiding behind multiple names!

    [Edited out]

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    Manjula
    07/19/2013 • 11:34 am
    I wonder what is the big deal here with “two” identities specially when Michael openly talks about his true identity and pseudo name under his “profile”. I knew this long long time ago when I read one of his articles that I accidentally bumped on. Guys, what is your problem?

    What about all those people who appear under a pseudo name in this forum and other forums?

    Hikz
    07/17/2013 • 10:29 pm
    “My name in the real world is Michael O’Leary. I write under a different name because Michael O’Leary is such a common name that Google gets confused.Any search for “Michael O’Leary” is likely to come up with a lot of stuff about the multimillionaire CEO of RyanAir.

    I have been writing a regular column under the name Michael O’Leary for Sri Lanka’s leading business magazine Lanka Monthly Digest (LMD), since 2007.”

    From his about page.

    Not sure what Sherlock and Dr Watson here are getting excited about :-)

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    Off the Cuff
    07/18/2013 • 12:44 am
    Hikz,

    Was wondering why Padraig did not provide the link to his about page http://pcolman.wordpress.com/about/. Perhaps Google was too new a tool for Sherlock and Watson.

    Hope he wont stop writing to GV just because he was targeted by some.

    Colombo Telegraph
    07/17/2013 • 11:26 pm
    One more correction;
    Colman /O’Leary says; “When I persisted, the person, who refused to give a name, said ‘No time’.”

    Again half truth. What we said was;

    //colombotelegraph
    Jul 12 (5 days ago)

    to Michael
    No time, you should do more research and come, we are willing to help you. //

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    Swaminathan
    07/17/2013 • 11:51 pm
    Is there no end to the half truths and manipulations of this Colman ? [Edited out]

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    Dev
    07/15/2013 • 5:44 pm
    I would like Padraig Colman to go back to the “Colombo Telegraph” to READ again the comments. the comments you have subscribed to ME is not from me !!!! Its from someone who calls himself “Thiru” who then apologizes for typing my name in the name box when trying to reply to my comment which was…..

    “This is just another “number” from the “expert”

    If I remember correctly, the Bishop of Mannar never gave the 147000 figure as killed, he simply said they were “missing” -sloppy journalism if you ask me ”

    the “expert” I was referring to is the report writers !! I was perfectly aware she did not estimate the numbers !!!
    I called out Ms. Noble on her error with the Bishop of Mannar and said it was shoddy journalism and I say that of you too, please as I said go back and read the comments CAREFULLY!

    As for highlighting biases about only accepting numbers/views we like….Dr Dayan Jayatilleka comment is very revealing….

    This may be Kath Noble’s most important article yet, which is saying quite a bit.

    A non-Sri Lankan, Oxford-trained mathematician, Kath’s lucidly critical exegesis of ‘The Numbers Game’ dis-aggregation promises to get us closer to the empirical truth than we have ever been. I eagerly await the next part, and Kath’s own estimate of the figures.

    My reply to him was as follows:

    “So if this “A non-Sri Lankan, Oxford-trained mathematician” gives a number it is acceptable but if Cambridge educated Frances Harrison with MBA from Imperial College gives a number its unacceptable? LOL LOL

    I am not saying either is right but just wanted to show how silly your comment is !”

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    Swaminathan
    07/15/2013 • 7:07 pm
    Thanks for highlighting both Padraig Colman’s sloppy reading (and journalism) and Dayan’s comment as I am not a regular reader of the telegraph.

    Will he apologize to you for accusing you wrongly?

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    Padraig Colman
    07/15/2013 • 8:49 pm
    The sloppiness seems to be down to CT, Dev and thiru. No apologies here.

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    swaminathan
    07/16/2013 • 1:14 am
    Is CT responisible for your inability to read? Why pass the buck having done poor reading.

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    Dr Dayan Jayatilleka
    07/15/2013 • 10:56 pm
    Is Ms Harrison a mathematician and if so, how does her math match up with the computations done by Kath Noble?

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    Anpu
    07/15/2013 • 6:45 pm
    Kath Noble – “But this approach opens up the possibility of much higher totals, so people like Frances Harrison are still perfectly happy to describe its results as ‘credible’.” https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/a-genuinely-credible-estimate/

    Frances Harrison – “Nearly four years on there is no agreed death toll, even to the nearest ten thousand lives. That’s why an international investigation is required to establish the truth about what may be one of the least reported but worst atrocities of recent decades – both in terms of the speed and the scale of the killing.” – http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/frances-harrison/one-hundred-thousand-peop_b_2306136.html

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    Padraig Colman
    07/15/2013 • 8:50 pm
    @ Anpu still waiting for a response to those links you said you would comment on.

    spikeyriter@gmail.com

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    Anpu
    07/16/2013 • 3:05 am
    Mr Colman – I could not find the time to read those articles. Sorry I am not going to email you. Simple reason – I do not wish to identify myself. I am sure you would not wilfully put my name on the net. But accidents happen. I am living in a safe place. But my close relatives are not. I do not wish to create any problems for them.

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    Padraig Colman
    07/16/2013 • 8:43 am
    Dear Anpu,

    You are proving my point here. From some of our more recent exchanges I get the distinct impression that in real life you are a decent fellow with whom I would probably get on well. However, when you put on a mask and prowl the internet you take on a different identity and feel emboldened to attack people you have never met.

    In good faith, I gave you my e-mail address and invited you to have a conversation with me away from the hub-bub of the comments threads. I can understand you reasons for not wanting to engage in an e-mail correspondence with me.

    After some considerable time has elapsed you say: “I could not find the time to read those articles.”

    That is typical of the power without responsibility nature of comment threads. I seriously believed that if you read my lengthy and balanced articles about my perceptions of the situation of Tamils in Sri Lanka, we might understand each other better.

    I tried. You have plenty of time to make comments but not enough time to consider my reasoned arguments.

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    Anpu
    07/16/2013 • 1:01 pm
    Mr Colman,
    I do not think your comment is a fair one. On https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/long-war-long-book/ I have said sorry twice and asked you to forgive me. You have replied “I forgive you”. It looks like you have not read my comment that included the word sorry.

    Thanks for the links to your articles. Again when I have time, I will read them.

    Have you read http://www.tamilnation.co/books/Eelam/satchi.pdf ?

    Pubudu
    07/15/2013 • 9:02 pm
    Thanks for the links. We do need to find the number of dead even to the closest 10000

    I wouldn’t expect an apology from the likes of Padraig Colman , Dev, so don’t hold your breadth

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    Padraig Colman
    07/15/2013 • 6:57 pm
    http://www.island.lk/index.php?page_cat=article-details&page=article-details&code_title=82664

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    Inoka Karu
    07/16/2013 • 2:30 am
    Dear moderators:
    I am repeatedly appealed to you to control hellion characters such “off the cuff”, Padraig Colman and J Fernando as they constantly drift away from topic and also cause animosity on GV and arguments that have no relevance to the topic at hand.

    Padraig Colman simply regurgitates previous articles with comments from others peppered in-between (and that too erroneously as clearly shown here; which is a cardinal sin for a journalist who should be doing fact checking not once but multiple times).
    Surely we can find journalists of higher caliber amidst us? Surely surely surely….expected better from GV and Sanjana Hattotuwa.

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    Padraig Colman
    07/16/2013 • 8:51 am
    I am not a journalist. However, I do check my facts and apologise when I make an error. You should not hold your “breadth” waiting for an apology to Dev. I quoted a comment from CT which was attributed to Dev. Case closed.

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    Inoka Karu
    07/16/2013 • 6:05 pm
    Your reply to others and myself is truly revealing as to your character. All I can say is “what a man and what comments ” beggars belief

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    J Fernando
    07/16/2013 • 3:14 pm
    I agree, we have many wonderful writers/thinker among us, we may disagree but at least they have thought through their ideas. People like Malinda Seneviratne, Fredrica Jansz, Dr Dayan, Dr. Rajiva W, Tisaranee Gunasekara and Jeyan Perera are some names that come to mind. Some are involved with the government others are not but they all write well giving their own perspective.

    What is Padraig Colman’s background? his he being provided space in ground views because of his country/region of origin? There is and not all will admit still some “preferential” bias in us Sri Lankans towards Europe/USA as compared to places like China or the far east. I hope that this is not the only qualification this guy brings to ground views.
    He admits he is not journalist, and it shows with his poor work, so why continue to entertain him?

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    Groundviews
    07/18/2013 • 9:33 am
    If you know of any Chinese who can write as well as the author, please encourage them to submit content to GV. The submission that this forum is biased towards writers from a particular geographic locale or nationality is absurd. There is of course open bias – towards intelligence, and informed debate. We often fail in this on comment threads, but live in the hope that things will improve.

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    Burning_Issue
    07/16/2013 • 9:10 pm
    I too cannot fathom as to the objectives of Mr Colman. He claims that he is not a journalist and an elderly gentlemen; if he is bored and would like to dabble in Sri Lankan complexities so be it. I have no time for such nonsense!

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    Padraig Colman
    07/16/2013 • 10:10 pm
    Dr Johnson said to James Boswell: “No man but a blockhead ever wrote, except for money”.

    Farewell!

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    Candidly
    07/18/2013 • 8:30 am
    Cognizance should also be taken of the figure of 468,000 internal refugees that the UN High Commission for Refugees on their website state have returned to their places of origin within Sri Lanka since the end of the war in May 2009. Approximately 300,000 of those will have been those from the government’s displacement camps for people from the final war zone itself. That leaves approximately 168,000 from elsewhere within Sri Lanka returning to their places of origin. It seems reasonable to suppose that most of those are people returning to the north, although some may be people displaced by flooding, etc. Separate figures for the different regions of Sri Lanka are not publicly available, although the UNHCR probably have them.

    If correct, these figures may go a long way to explaining the Bishop of Mannar’s 146,000 “missing people”. It is indeed a “numbers game” unfortunately for some people. More cool rational thinking based on reliable and valid facts and less emotion would help a lot in this situation and contribute greatly to the on-going process of re-establishing harmonious ethnic relations.

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      “Rayan Kallapatha”
      What on earth is all of this?

      Michael O’Leary/Padraig Colman writes under two names and his affinity to the Mahinda Rajapaksa regime is only too evident in the material published under both. I don’t understand what his consternation is all about in the matter of Sanjana Hattottuwa’s and Uvindu Kurukulasuriya’s conduct, though.

      Suffice it to say that both of those editors (?) certainly have been more even-handed and objective in the material published in the journals they appear to control. Is that, in fact, Colman’s/O’Leary’s complaint: that they aren’t supportive enough of the regime that he chooses to consistently extol?

      In the interests of the sanity of the rest of us, Sanjana and Uvindu would be well advised to leave the O’Learys/Colmans out of the columns of the publications they have responsibility for. Goodness knows we have enough “media” in Sri Lanka only too ready to pay obeisance to our neo-Mediaeval Court as it is!

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        Thank you Emil. this article waa posted on CT without my permission.

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          Reproduced with permission from The Nation. We’ve got written permission.

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          hope you meant ….‘finished with Groundviews’ …..and don’t try to crawl back to GV with your tail between your legs !

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        This comment by Emil van der Poorten is unbelievable.

        Padraig Colman’s political allegiances are beside the point. Both Padraig Colman and Emil van der Poorten are free to have their own political allegiances, opinions and write advocating a any point of view as they see fit.

        However, it is in spirit of media freedom to allow all writers including the ones who may be advocating pro-LTTE, pro-separatists
        view points to make their point heard.

        To say a particular writer should be shut out just because his point of view doesn’t concur with yours is beyond comprehension. You seem to have no principals non whatsoever.

        What a strange country are we living in? Where else in the world do we have journalists and free media activists who campaign that some writers should be kept out because of what they write!!!

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          Read the whole thread and understand that Colman has been twisting the correspondence between CT and himself on GV to mislead the Groundview readers, is that good journalism?

          He also attributed to me comments that I never made, when I pointed out that he had made a mistake he did not even own up to the mistake but blamed CT and …etc

          Now complaining about ground views !

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    It looks GV is right in this comment thread, ( May be GV has censored his comment as he claims, that is GV’s job to clarify)

    In his GV article the opening statement is wrong according to CT’s, Colman’s and Kath Nobel’s replies. So the comments are relevant.

    On a side note, how can we trust the rest if the opening statement is wrong? :(

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    Quote “Not a single one dealt with the subject matter of my article.” unquote.
    Michael O’Leary, do you know about the “author dead” concept? What you meant and what I understood is different. Read more my friend!! ;) ;)

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    Michael O’Leary aka Padraig-Colman aka SL Government stooge. ;)

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    NO one I repeat NO one asked you to write on CT or GV or any other site/paper, if you don’t like it get out !

    Reading GV it is VERY VERY CLEAR you tried to pull the wool over people’s eyes especially GV readers as to your motives with half truths and slander and you got caught by CT with your pants down.

    Why is an Irishman here? answer that??? What business is it to you ? I am suspicious about you.

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    Maybe we should not take what we read on the internet so seriously. People can take false identities, post under multiple names and write absolutely anything they wish, including truth, lies, fabrications, distortions, foul language, racist and ethnic abuse, and anything else for good or for bad that they wish. Like gossip, it is not reality, it is a virtual reality in which people spin stories for personal and other reasons. The internet is unreliable and everything seen there needs to be externally verified, imo.

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    There are many in Sri Lanka who have suffered similarly at the hands of ti Sanana Hattotuwa.

    [Edited out]

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    CT is making such a big thing of the fact that I said they “reproduced” articles from The Island. This article is definitely REPRODUCED without my permission. Theft.

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      “reproduced” articles from The Island ???

      Again half truth mate, you have never said we “reproduced” articles from The Island, what to you said was; “Kath Noble recently published two articles in The Island, which were reproduced on Colombo Telegraph”
      We never reproduced Kath Nobel’s articles from The Island. Read what Kath said on the GV comment thread.

      The article above is reproduced with permission from The Nation editor. Theft?? We’ve got written permission.

      Hope this clarifies.

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        I think it is quite clear that Padraig means you reproduced articles that appeared in the Island. What else does “Kath Noble recently published two articles in The Island, which were reproduced on Colombo Telegraph” mean? Where did the articles appear first? If first in the Island, then what appears in CT is a reproduction or republication. Why are you so offended by Padraig pointing this out, CT?

        @David Blacker, please read Kath Noble’s reply in GV;
        http://groundviews.org/2013/07/15/citizen-journalism-and-the-numbers-game/

        It’s not a reproduction or republication

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          David Blacker

          is back.

          Soon he is going to hit the fan.

          Run for cover.

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          I have read it. I’m not interested in whether it is a reproduction or where it appeared first. My question is why have you said (above) that Padraig hasn’t claimed you reproduced an article from the Island.

          This is what you said: “Again half truth mate, you have never said we “reproduced” articles from The Island, what to you said was; “Kath Noble recently published two articles in The Island, which were reproduced on Colombo Telegraph””

          Padraig is definitely saying you reproduced the article. Why are you saying that he isn’t. In fact, why all this vague answers, cryptical hints, and suggestions to read what Kath Noble has said? Why don’t you just make a straightforward statement on what your position is? The matter could have been laid to rest long ago.

          CT certainly reproduces articles — from Brit newspapers, the Times magazine, etc — so why are you so offended? SL journos in general have no scruples in reproducing articles. That isn’t even the main thrust of Padraig’s original complaint.

          @David- yes we are reproducing articles. but this issue is re Kath’s articles. We have never reproduced her articles. We have said that. But here Colman is twisting the fact.

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            Then why are you saying that he ISN’T saying you reproduced articles???

            CT: “Again half truth mate, you have NEVER said we “reproduced” articles from The Island”

            Do you understand what you’ve typed?

            Again, if you haven’t reproduced the articles why not explain that the articles were written for you. Were they written for you? Why the ambiguity?

            1. “reproduced articles from The Island” and “Kath Noble recently published two articles in The Island, which were reproduced on Colombo Telegraph” are two different statements.

            2. “Were they written for you?” – Who knows. What we know is this;” The articles were published both in The Island and on Colombo Telegraph. – Kath Nobel “
            http://groundviews.org/2013/07/15/citizen-journalism-and-the-numbers-game/

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              CT: “1. “reproduced articles from The Island” and “Kath Noble recently published two articles in The Island, which were reproduced on Colombo Telegraph” are two different statements.”

              Really?? The only difference is that in the second example Padraig is stating that the articles he is referring to are the ones written by Kath Noble. Since in subsequent statements he is referring to his original statement, he needn’t mention Ms Noble again. So are you suggesting that where Padraig doesn’t mention Ms Noble he is referring to some other articles, or are you claiming that Ms Noble didn’t write the articles Padraig is referring to?

              As a journalist, you should be clear, so as to avoid sowing confusion and inviting false accusations which then need long exchanges. You could still explain.

              CT: “Who knows. What we know is this;” The articles were published both in The Island and on Colombo Telegraph.”

              No one is debating that they were published in both places. But if they were not written specifically for CT as well as the Island, and first appeared in the latter, they ARE indeed reproductions or republications. So on what grounds are you denying that they are neither? Ms Noble doesn’t mention either circumstance.

              Also, if you’re responding to me within my own comment box, it would be less confusing if you could sign off your response. There are many in these threads who are easily confused as even a quick glance will show ;)

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              Please read the exchange between CT and colman (or whatever name he goes by today), its very clear that he “extracts” parts of the email exchange between Uvindu and himself to mislead and paint a different picture to the readers of GV-he got caught and without being a man with a backbone and admitting his fault he pointed fingers at everyone including the editors of CT and GV LOL LOL LOL
              (is addition to being a poor journalist who publishes without fact checking)

              Sanjana beautifully captured his behaviour calling him “petulant”
              Maybe in the little village he lives, due to his foreign background people might be fawning at him (a fault of many sri lankans) and see no fault of his but not here !

              Though I very much doubt it I hope that he has enough of a backbone to
              stick to what he has said to GV
              ” I no longer wanted anything to do with Groundviews”
              and not come crawling back with his tail between his legs.

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            “he got caught”

            Got caught doing what? His complaint was that his real name was revealed.

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      lier lier pants on fire ! go back to Ireland !

      We don’t need you here ! As Emil van der Poorten has stated we have enough “media” here to praise the government

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        This is what losers do . Insult ,hurl abuse when they have no answers . PC or Micahel O’Leary can write in what ever names he wants . Many authors do this . I cant see anything wrong in this as he is entitled to his opinion just as the rest of us . I am sure he will express his opinion in 100 different names his opinion and arguments mean more . “WHAT IS IN A NAME IN THAT WE CALL A ROSE BY ANY OTHER NAME IT WOULD SMELL JUST AS SWEET ” SHAKESPEAR..

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          Some of Padraig’s recent articles have put a nice big dent in LTTE diaspora fairy tales – no wonder they’re trying to hound him like a bunch of rabid stray dogs.

          But you know what they say about dogs, mountains, caravans etc :-)

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            Hi Sinhala Sarma! Happy?

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              Can someone call animal control? One of the aforementioned dogs has gotten loose again :-)

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          Aunty Saro, “when they have no answers” what kind of answer are you looking for? Aunty Saro is none other than S. Waduge. LOL

          [Edited out]

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    Michael O’Leary you write;”This is what the latter said: “I left a comment on GV asking why these people commenting under pseudonyms want you shut out from GV when they really don’t mind reading Veluppillai Thangavelu, Usha S Sri-Skanda-Rajah, E A V Naganathan, etc.”

    So who is this “latter?

    Anyway it looks whoever this “latter” seems unaware of the fact that you yourself have multiple identities. You yourself had written that article under a pseudonym and commenting under the same pseudonym.

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      pseudonym, Some Sinhala madayas think that White people are honest. This mand is talking about hypocrisy, while being a a hypocrite. What a sorry state of affairs.

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    Stop whining like a kid and grow up!

    You first started off by quoting something that “thiru” stated as Dev’s, which is poor journalism.
    I called you out and so did others. In addition when CT called you out as well you twisted your correspondence with them to mislead the GV readers.

    Without admitting your faults you want to point your fingers at everyone except yourself for messing up!
    Now you are complaining about GV and CT !!

    I sincerely hope you follow citizenSriLanka’s advice and try NOT crawl back to CT or GV with your tail between your legs !

    The best place for your writings are probably
    news.lk
    defense.lk
    dailynews.lk
    Sunday Observer

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      @ InokaKaru, this man has three names
      Padraig Colman
      Michael O’Leary
      Michael Patrick Colman O’Leary

      “Patrick”

      Hey Colman/Michael/Padraig/O’Leary/Patrick what is your real name?

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        Does it matter by what name he writes ? why is it so important ? Just read the contents do not bother with names. Typical SL mentality always focus on something irrelevant forgetting the important messgae.

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          Of course it does matter. Read the article Saro. Colman writes; The very first comment revealed that my real name is Michael O’Leary. Several commenters who persistently attack me pounced on this “revelation”. “A man with multiple identities hiding behind multiple names!”
          I asked GV editor Sanjana Hattotuwa about this. “I cannot recall when you asked me to keep it secret?” In a more recent e-mail, he seemed to be saying that, as I had made no secret of my real name in correspondence with him and others, and as others had subsequently commented on Groundviews “that your multiple identities are in fact well publicized on the web through your own blog”, it was perfectly legitimate to “out” me. Notice the smear implicit in “multiple identities”. I write under two names. My identity is consistent.”

          So name is relevant. He is lying he has another name.“Patrick”

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            So when you say your name is “Samaraweera” you also are lying if you haven’t said that your full name is Dhombagahamulla Srilalge Gamini Samaraweera? :D

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          Also READ READ READ the groundviews thread ! In it Colman (or whatever he calls himself) twists the correspondence he had with CT and misleads the groundviews readers !

          That my dear lady is the problem !

          NOT him having a multitude of names or writing under them, its the attempt to mislead the readers

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      My tail is not between my legs. Fully erect madam!

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    [Freedom Of Speech In Sri Lanka: Colombo Telegraph And Groundviews]

    Why Sri Lanka’s name is used when CT is not operating from Sri Lanka.

    If CT editorial board DOES NOT WANT this British Man in their office, why he is accusing Sri Lanka ?

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    gee really this site has high quality articles ,, well who knew , you should have told me .. I was just looking to trash some media troll and whores..

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