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Immortal Mortals: Reply To Readers’ Comments

By Haaniya Jiffrey Shiyam –

Thank you very much, dear readers, for your valuable comments. I attempt, hereby, to respond to you in the hope that you may find answers to your questions. As I had pointed out right at the outset, this topic is not easy to broach. No wonder, then, all manner of comments and questions have come up.

We are all on an equal footing here and none knows whether we will succeed or not. That decision is with Allah. But what we are commanded to do is to try our best to succeed in the way that the Qur’an teaches us. One reader commented that he/she has hope that a good life awaits him/her. That is the spirit! We keep hoping for the best and never despair. That hope, however, should not be a baseless optimism but one that is counterbalanced by deep concern about making the right choices. It is not a simple matter, but a commitment for life when we see and accept the Truth. I once heard a deplorably naïve claim that, you simply say you believe in Allah and voila! You have ensured admission to everlasting bliss! There is stern admonition dismissing such wishful thinking (2:8,9) and this becomes even more evident from the warnings directed to the believers in verses such as the following:

“Do people think that they will be left alone because they say: “We believe,” and will not be tested.” (29:2)

None of us, then, can afford to be complacent whether we are believers or not.   Simply having a Muslim name or even a Muslim identity will not qualify us for Paradise, or more importantly, for gaining the Pleasure of Allah. The Qur’an gives clear guidance on how to attain these.

On that note, let me try to address some of the issues in your comments to the best of my ability. One reader asks how to reconcile the fact that women are denied education while Islam comprises lofty ideas. It is a natural confusion, for I, too, am struck by the amount of intoxicants, murders and other crimes pervading countries that claim to uphold values of the main world religions. You would agree that, to come to the conclusion that the religion is responsible for the wrongdoing would not be, at all, sound or fair. The abuse of religion for ulterior motives by people who claim to follow it, is not rare. As no religion promotes immorality or any form of oppression, we should take care to appraise religions without prejudice. What is more, it is obligatory upon every Muslim, male or female, to seek knowledge. The Qur’an emphasizes this to a great degree; suffice it to say that its first revealed word was the command, “Read,” which is the basis of acquiring knowledge. If the reader concerned is interested, please visit msa@alberta.ca for a brief but comprehensive explanation of the topic.

To the reader who asked for names of skeptics who admit to the presence of an immense intelligence behind the wonders of creation, may I humbly request you to please read the source I have cited especially pages 4 to 7 where Edward Milne, Edmund Whittaker, George Smoot, Stephen Hawking, Albert Einstein, and Anthony Flew are mentioned in this regard. As I had pointed out earlier, and as all of us are bound to know, vast amounts of literature on these sciences are available for anyone who wants to study further. I trust you would engage in additional reference at your discretion. Allow me to add here that it is mainly the observation of the complexity of the universe and human DNA that substantiate the presence of a Creator and this is what the Qur’an states, too: “We will show them Our Signs in the Universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Qur’an) is the truth” (41:53.) The assertions of Prof. Keith L. Moore, professor emeritus in the division of anatomy at the University of Toronto, confirming the Qur’an as the revealed word of God based on its accuracy regarding the developmental stages of the human embryo, may also provide insight to readers who would like to explore further.

Several readers sent comments related to knowledge and intellect. The knowledge that the Qur’an imparts is for anyone who wants to take it, whether they are believers or not. The doors of Mercy are open to all equally, regardless of your race, language, gender, etc. We do not have to give up on it, assuming it is beyond us. Rather, trying to understand it to the best of one’s ability and actually wanting to benefit by its guidance is what will be more meaningful. In the Qur’an Allah speaks not only to our mind but also to our heart. So, there is ample opportunity for us to respond at an emotional level to the call of Allah. For example, developing a sense of gratitude whenever Allah mentions His Bounty with which He has blessed us, is something all of us can achieve. As to the intellectual aspect of approaching the Qur’an, there are numerous resources which we can tap in order to find out more; advances in IT have made such help easily accessible to most of us. There is every reason, then, for us to make an effort to learn the Qur’anic message for our own lasting well-being. One remarkable lecture that comes to mind is, a series in three parts, about “The Purpose of Life” by Khalid Yasin, in which he explains, among others, two profound verses of the Qur’an (3:190, 191), that bring out the link between our powers of Reason and our potential for Faith. This is available on YouTube and in book form, too.

A familiar and logically flawed question is raised by another reader: “Who created the Creator?” The answer to this is in the self-explanatory word “Creator,” meaning He is not created. If you need further clarification on this please visit abuaminaelias.com from where I quote Ibn Taymiyya, a reputed 13th century scholar, “It is not possible for the Creator of the creation to have a creator. If He had a creator, He would not be the Creator of everything. “ Sadly, it is when we presume that we (have to) know everything that such doubts appear in our minds, whereas the knowledge that we are afforded is miniscule compared to the infinite wisdom of our Creator. Albert Einstein called the genius behind the universe “an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it all systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection” (Ideas and Opinions – The World As I See It.) The verse known as “The Throne” clarifies that human knowledge is limited: “…they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills” (2: 255.)

I gather that there is an assumption that chaos existed before God but the Qur’an teaches that Allah precedes everything (57:3) and is the originator of all creation. Not even the primordial dust cloud came into being by itself. For more on this and other related questions may I recommend a lucid discussion by Dr. Laurence Brown in The Big Questions.

I do not write on this topic in the capacity of a scientist, a logician, a philosopher, or even a religious scholar, for I am none of these. I write as a humble mortal to my fellow mortals in a spirit of complete goodwill and friendship. We are all in a perilous journey together and as such it is imperative that you extend the lifeline to your fellow passengers as well. We can argue for and against Truth, but even while we are thus engaged, we will cease to be. This is not a matter of winning or losing a debate. The crucial question is whether we want to adopt a stance of denial and defiance in order to live a carefree life in this fleeting world, compromising our success in the permanent hereafter. Or whether we want to endure this life in obedience and thankfulness to the One who gave us life and achieve ever-lasting success. Life is not unlike the famous Marshmallow Test, which establishes that those able to delay their gratification by resisting their impulsive urge for immediate fulfilment, end up with a greater reward. It is also good to remember that whether we accept or reject the Truth, we are incapable of benefitting or harming our Creator in the least. It is the success or our own soul that is at stake: “Whoever strives, strives for his own benefit. Surely Allah is independent of all the worlds.” (29:6)

You may have noticed that, wherever possible, I have mentioned material for further reading. I sincerely wish that these, and even better sources of your own finding, would serve you in your present and future quest. Another way to seek guidance is to listen to the stories of those who embraced faith. They motivate us to find the Truth as well. One such narrative I came across was remarkable in that the person relates how, looking up into the seamless skies made him realize that there is more to life than what is apparent to us, and after extensive study of different philosophies he finally accepted the truth of the Qur’an, which specifically enjoins us to gaze up into the heavens for self-realization. (67: 3,4)

May Allah bless us all with His guidance.

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    Religions are a primitive approach to understanding the universe, an attitude that science is gradually straightening out.
    Religions try to explain the realm beyond the physical world that we supposedly go to after death.
    But we are mammals, animals that breathe air, have a backbone, and grows hair at some point during life. Female mammals produce milk. We have evolved a complex brain that makes us superior to other mammals. But all mammals must die, like everything else.
    Even gods die. Zeus, Helios, Apollo, Odin, Thor, all Aztec, Celtic, Egyptian gods, they are all no more.
    Ancient gods once demanded human sacrifice. Goats and fowls now replace humans in such sacrifices.
    Science says the brain and body are in constant electrochemical communication with each other with multiple and dense feedback loops. That ceases when your body dies. Then you must decay, as all matter decays. No electrical impulse survives.
    Science gives credibility to the concept of anattā, of “non-self”. That means there’s no unchanging, permanent self, soul or essence in living beings.
    We can find peace if we accept the natural cycle of birth and death and the return to earth of all we took away to sustain us in life. Our reincarnation will be visible in the stunning wonders of nature’s seasonal resurrection.

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      Haaniya,
      “To the reader who asked for names of skeptics who admit to the presence of an immense intelligence behind the wonders of creation, may I humbly request you to please read the source I have cited”
      Yes, true. Even I feel that ,for example, the workings of DNA are pretty inexplicable through plain chance. Those who are familiar with the primitive “programmer” behind every Wesak Thorana know it doesn’t work by random chance. But, to extrapolate such a Creator into the very mundane issues of religions such as Islam is ridiculous. Why would an entity that created the entire universe insist that on a planet at the edge of a tiny insignificant galaxy, the inhabitants should worship him 5 times a day or be damned?
      We know that alcohol is a “creation of Allah”, because long before distilleries, animals got drunk on fermented fruit. It still happens in the jungles of Sri Lanka. But Islam forbids alcohol.
      Islam (and other Abrahaimc religions) recommend stoning of adulterers, but only male ones. This sort of thing is not my conception of a Creator. My creator wouldn’t be bothered what we do, but would be careful we don’t destroy ourselves, because that would be a waste of his (her?) efforts.
      (Contd)

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        Haaniya, there is incontrovertible evidence that humans like us have been around for at least 500,000 years, even though the Quran and the other holy books say otherwise. Now, the religious argument is that we should listen to some guy who appeared just 1400 ( or 2000) years ago. People of faith like you must reconcile facts on the ground with what is written in holy books. The usual escape is to claim that the writings are allegorical and not to be taken strictly. Well then, who decides what is allegorical and what isn’t? That is exactly the situation Islam and Christianity are in these days.
        “One reader asks how to reconcile the fact that women are denied education while Islam comprises lofty ideas.”
        Iran allows women to drive but Saudi didn’t. Iran has a cinema industry, Saudi doesn’t. Ibn Batata was scandalised that Maldivian Muslim women were topless. Pakistani Shia women sing and dance, Albanian women don’t cover their heads, but all use the same Quran!
        Don’t you think diversity and freedom to choose within one religion is better than doctrinal insistence on following a “party line”?

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          old codger

          Thanks
          How do you plan to deal with future fatwas pronounced by illiterate mufti, from remote Afghanistan and Pakistan. So take good care of yourself.

          Saudi Arabian women no longer need a man’s permission to travel. Here are the biggest changes they’ve seen in the last 2 years.

          The country has also allowed women to drive, lifted a decades-long ban on cinemas, and is building a multi-billion dollar entertainment city 2.5 times the size of Disney World.

          ….

          Saudi women are allowed to drive now.
          https://www.businessinsider.com/womens-rights-in-saudi-arabia-driving-ban-2018-3?r=US&IR=T#women-can-travel-without-a-male-guardians-permission-1

          Saudi Arabia is reforming its arcane medieval religious laws heading towards gender equality. However in this island the saffron brigades and the arch-conservatives (whoever they maybe) want all progress reversed, ….. In time they would want free education banned from this island, all English, Tamil media, books, … burnt, Pali may be introduced as official language so that only a few (the saffron clad) could find gainful employment. Hindians want Sanskrit to be the official language.

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            Native,
            Would you believe it, contrary to the popular narrative, cinemas have been operating, and women have been driving in Saudi since the 40’s.

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        OC
        Not just DNA, there are many things in inorganic chemistry that seem inexplicable. Humanity’s search for knowledge is restricted by its senses and we rely on secondary and tertiary sources to understand nature.
        The whole of natural sciences is built on models. Models have explained much of what we saw. When they failed to explain all, we either modified the model or found another, often without totally rejecting the old one. There is a lot of simulation of human observations at various levels of sophistication. On the other hand Einstein aimed at simplicity.
        Nature has its laws and we struggle to identify them. There is a pattern in all phenomena. Why should we bring in an imaginary quantity (God or gods) to stand in for missing knowledge?
        The idea of a personal god with a mind itself is flawed. What God is said to have done to prove His existence places Him below a cheap showman.
        *
        God has a rich and powerful lobby, I suppose. It is hard to beat it.

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      Yes Sarath,
      …return to earth of all we took away to sustain us in life…
      Even the Bible says:
      .. In the book of Genesis 3:19 the reference to ashes and dust reads, “By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.”…

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    …That decision is with Allah…. Means you have decided and hence not objective.
    However, … Ibn Taymiyya, a reputed 13th century scholar, “It is not possible for the Creator of the creation to have a creator. If He had a creator, He would not be the Creator of everything. ….
    So then you are just going round and round – no definite answer but playing on words.
    No real answer to : Who created the Creator.

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      ….. that it is mainly the observation of the complexity of the universe and human DNA that substantiate the presence of a Creator …..
      Nothing in science admits of a Creator.
      Instead of going back to views of those who lived ages past, Stephen Hawkings you mention, of this century, answered this question in ….
      https://www.themarginalian.org/2019/07/17/stephen-hawking-brief-answers-to-the-big-questions/#:~:text=Hawking%20concludes%20with%20his%20most,no%20heaven%20and%20afterlife%20either.
      This is what Stephen Hawking (January 8, 1942–March 14, 2018) does in his FINAL BOOK, Brief Answers to the Big Questions :
      For centuries, it was believed that disabled people like me were living under a curse that was inflicted by God. Well, I suppose it’s possible that I’ve upset someone up there, but I prefer to think that everything can be explained another way, by the laws of nature. If you believe in science, like I do, you believe that there are certain laws that are always obeyed. If you like, you can say the laws are the work of God, but that is more a definition of God than a PROOF of his existence……

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    You live within God and God lives within you. No need of religion to seek God. Religion is/was the cause of Murder/Mayhem.

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    “May Allah bless us all with His guidance.”
    I can find my way.

    Soma

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      soman

      “I can find my way.”

      You mean with the guidance of Allah.

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    “Allow me to add here that it is mainly the observation of the complexity of the universe and human DNA that substantiate the presence of a Creator and this is what the Qur’an states, too: “We will show them Our Signs in the Universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Qur’an) is the truth” (41:53.)”
    *
    How do we know that the complexity of the universe and human DNA didn’t come together from chaos, to arrange and rearrange themselves into such order, till consciousness arose out of the permutations and combinations of the universe, such that we now we find them worthy to worship? How do we know that all won’t go into disorder again at some point, as nothing is permanent?
    *
    How do we know that God is not an emergent from conscious-thought that has taken on being? How do we know that the desire and longing for the God-creator is not a mere human emotional longing, and not true physical reality?
    *

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    Science, it is seen, emerged out of ancient wisdom. For example, European scientists got the idea and mathematics to explore the atom after learning from ancient scripts of the countries they colonized, like the texts and wisdom from India and South America. Then they went about investigating it.
    *
    Scientifically, one can believe in angels, gods and demons – them being metaphysical manifestations from possible forces like gravity and electromagnetic spectrums from the vast everlasting universe. And the spirit of God’s incarnation on earth together with the many saints who lived on this earth, where their essence bursts into mighty electro-magnetic currents of Love, Hope, Peace, and Joy, are very scientific indeed.
    *

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    But I will concede that God as Creator (not the emergent from conscious-thought that has taken on being), is beyond scientific scope……beyond known physics, as is being discovered now by scientists in the further reaches of the universe, wherefore by which nothing in the present scientific realm can justify. And maybe, it is only the conscious emotional soul that can perceive this being. How far does the Koran go to reveal this human metaphysical depth (other than dire punishments on those who find it impossible to perceive these truths, if any)?
    *

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      Dear RMF,
      While appreciating your comments, only your saying “And maybe, it is only the conscious emotional soul that can perceive this being” is confusing.
      Except Buddhism which speaks of “Anaththa” or that no unchanging, permanent self or essence (soul) can be found in any phenomenon, all or most religions admit of a soul.
      The admission of a “soul” brings in the concept of immortality or continuance of identity after death. Would this lead to accept a Creator who created the soul ?
      Or does that word have a different application or meaning in this context.

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        My View,

        Dunno.
        …trying to put forward a case for God, but all versions are weak.Was hoping the holy Koran would shed more light. Faith and belief themselves don’t cut it.

        Guess an immortal soul doesn’t need a creator either. Maybe a soul persists after death, but is not permanent either.

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          Dear RTF.
          I agree – “Dunno”, or “Guess” in the dark.
          ‘Oh what a tangled web we weave,
          When first we practice to deceive’…ourselves of that which is unlikely to exist or be seen or heard.
          Adapted : Sir Walter Scott

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            In trying to understand those who believe in God, guess God, being too complex to be analyzed by the human mind (the ultimate complex reality), can only manifest Himself through prophets (and incarnations)……as the author of the article implied.

            In the Bible were the Sadducees. They were almost atheists, where God whilst being a possible supernatural force, had nothing to do with humans. Jesus did not condemn them for their beliefs, but was angered by their controlling ways, for they and the Pharisees ( who believed in God) used the religion for cultural gambits, rather than for any holy truths (like some of our SB’s).

            Christ was more for the goodness and cleansing of the heart of every man than trying to prove the existence of God to those who disbelieved. People were going to hell for being mean spirited rather than denying the existence of God. But in Islam, one would go to hell mostly for denying the existence of Allah.

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              Dear RTF,
              IF, yes IF :..God, being too complex to be analyzed by the human mind……. then let us mortals, not waste time on this.
              More earthly concerns beckon us :
              ‘Space station will crash,’ warns Russia; Writes to NASA against sanctions by the West. 500 Tons – Terrifying ?

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    Ah, OC you are here talking much more sensibly than when promoting Ranil , the pretender elite.

    Humans(home sapiens) have been here for 500,000 years ? I thought it was less than that.

    Hanniya, do you believe there is a god who sends his son or messenger periodically?

    So the universe( god) is like the Rajapakses, all powerful father and his son ! A very human like interpretation of the vast universe !

    These messengers, if you read what they are supposed to have said carefully, were limited to their time and their area.

    Jesus knew of Rome , but said nothing about its eventual fall . He had no idea of the threatening Germanic tribes . he never said anything about future powers like England, USA or Russia.

    Similarly the Arabic prophet only knew of his time and the tribes of that area.There is no mention of other continents and other people.

    Buddha too said nothing about Greece or Rome. He only spoke of India as if it was the universe.

    Maybe to talk of these other things was not their mission. But it makes me wonder…

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      DS,
      Has it not occurred to you that I am sensible all the rime, even when talking about Ranil?
      You ran away when I asked you to name one thing Ranil did that is worse than what Nandasena is still doing.

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      Deepthi Silva, Agree that human messengers of the universe were limited to their time and area. Jesus an Israeli Jew was under the Roman Empire but from the prophetic scriptures he had in his time, also knew that Ezekiel 38, to be against Gog, from the north land of Magog, prince of Rosh(Russia). Gomer is Germany and Togarmah is Turkey. Persia, Ethiopia and Libya are with them. The Jews were scattered worldwide for rejecting their Messiah Jesus but regathered into Israel in 1948, Jerusalem capital was theirs in 1967 and in their being attacked in 1973 Yom Kippur, Golan Heights, West Bank, and Gaza were called occupied territories.Jews in Israel will receive their Messiah coming to the Mount of Olives and the world sees it. Now is build up.

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        DTG,
        “The Jews were scattered worldwide for rejecting their Messiah Jesus but regathered into Israel in 1948,”
        So the Jews have accepted Jesus now, have they? Israel is therefore a Christian state, and the Jews are Christians?
        I really like your creative interpretation of Israel and its religion.

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          old codger, The Jews are being regathered even from Ukraine prez. downwards. Ukraine jews are running home to Israel. They are also coming from Russia. Orthodox Putin or follower Rosh (Gog and Magog of Ezek.38) will invade Meggido joined by the kings from the east (Chinese BRI) as well as Iran. This may take long but when the world is near annihilation, bible says Jesus will return to the Mount of Olives and the Jews already in Israel will recognise their Jewish Messiah who saves them and the world, by throwing satan into hell. I could not make this future salvation promised to the Jews real but there is suffering in a sin sick fallen world until total restoration to the original plan of the creator of truth and peace

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            DTG,
            “Orthodox Putin or follower Rosh (Gog and Magog of Ezek.38) will invade Meggido”
            This is very confusing. Isn’t Putin a Christian?

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              old codger, Putin wants to be total dictator of Russian empire as Xi wants to rule the world through Chinese empire. This world was created to be ruled by God full of love, mercy, compassion and forgiveness and that is what will happen at the final battle of Armageddon coming down to Jerusalem when evil is overthrown and people freed. Read the bible if you want all the details.

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    Old codger, Dont know how to answer your question-” Aren’t I sensible? ” Aren’t I pretty, intelligent, capable? Of course Sir !

    Hope the next generation is not so self-centred and conceited. You and I are hopelessly brain washed by the society we were born into, a land on which we imagine giants walk, DS, SWRD, JR, Prabakaran, Wijeweera, Ranil, Mahinda ! ! ( huge intellectuals and nation builders ! In truth big talk , small deeds)
    I have never read any such nonsense in writings on our characters from outside of this small country. No one says we have great thinker or doers. Only pathetic wannbes talking big in a corrupt country..Same question, full of Aren’t I .pretty types?

    Your other question, comparing Nandasena with Ranil.They are two different species and cannot be compared. They harm us in different ways.Ranil being more cunning ,the damage is not so open but more deeper. A man like Nandasena is a bull in a China shop.

    You may argue that since Ranil has written a book on Buddhism, he has no interest or has seen through to the illusory nature of money and power.

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      deepthi silva

      Please re-read all of your disjointed typing, review and amend as you go along.
      You have assumed a few facts, invented a few, wrongly interpreted the rest.

      Calm down.
      Use your brain and google to revisit this island nation’s history.
      Things don’t happen without any historical basis.

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    OC, you declare that Ranil knows how to manage our economy. You do him a disservice. He knows millions of other things and running the Sri Lankan economy is just one of his specialities.

    Another area of his special knowledge is the Ukraine conflict.

    In this area , Ranil has a challenger in Dayan Jayatilleka but since Old codger and crowd have infinite faith in Ranil I would say that Ranil is the deeper analyst on the Ukraine issue.

    I have not read anything written on any subject by Ranil except Buddhism. But let us say he is an expert on every subject .If so why does not CNN, Aljazeera, BBC, Indian media , China news broadcast “Ranil on Ukraine?”

    Do they recognize a cheap pretender or a man out of his depth? Is he a creation of the imagination of our English speaking middle class ? They so desperately want to believe in a redeemer !

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      DS,
      “If so why does not CNN, Aljazeera, BBC, Indian media , China news broadcast “Ranil on Ukraine?””
      The short answer is that Ranil has featured a lot more on these media than any Rajapaksa. If you watch them regularly, you would have known that.
      https://www.aljazeera.com/videos/2018/11/2/wickremesinghe-sri-lanka-democracy-under-threat
      https://youtu.be/xn6-OMy7LFM
      https://youtu.be/-Fh4QzzJ5rs
      Why don’t you do your research before pontificating?
      Ranil may be a “poof” according to you, but his grasp of economics is the best among former leaders. If he had been allowed to have his way, we wouldn’t be in this miserable position. The CEPA would have been signed, we would have been integrated with the Indian economy and power grid. All this was destroyed by your Rajapaksa pets, with their eternal destructive opposition and their schemes like the fake bond scam, the fake 52 day government, and, to crown it, the Easter bombings.
      Ranil may not be perfect, but he is head and shoulders above any Rajapaksa or Premadasa. Give him credit for that.

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    OC, For the last 25 years our history is like this. People struggle against the existing government, get beaten by the police, go to jail and after much suffering bring the government down. What happens ? In comes Ranil and soon a set of hidden buddies appear to “run” the country( Ranil made the UNP constitution and became leader for life) .The UNP is a very undemocratic institution talking democracy . In a few months the whole lot is kicked out by the president! Then the Ranil mob goes around maligning the President .

    One time former Central banker Wijewardena wrote some thing critical of Ranil economics. How did the Ranil gang react? They maligned Wijewardena referring to even his brother in law ! Such is the true quality of these so called brown skinned elite gantalman !

    Finally, the people got fed up and denied the UNP a single seat in parliament . What happened ? Ranil remains UNP leader and has come back to parliament( expert on every subject- a sick man playing a sick joke)

    So the people for 25 thought the purpose of politics is to bring Ranil back ! He undermined the very idea of politics. He perverted the idea of integrity( recall Mahendran, Aloysius, Paski, Nadesan,Ravi, etc etc)

    Of course you can say OC that you are more wise and intelligent than 24 million! Aren’t I sensible !! Ha Ha ha

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      DS,
      “So the people for 25 thought the purpose of politics is to bring Ranil back !”
      So, are you happier now than when Ranil and his buddies ran the show? Honest answer please. Tell us what Gota has done whi h is better? Honest answer please.

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    Gosh OC you are such a follower of Ranil ! Your house must be full of Ranil memorabilia !

    Ranil speeches,Ranil writings, Ranil discards, Ranil old school souvenirs , may be even Esmond’s discards- his old shirts, beach towels , rubber slippers.

    To you Ranil looks gigantic, isn’t that our problem ?

    By emphasizing Rajapakse faults( they are just faulty- corrupt and foolish-period ) you are saying Ranil is good or at least better.

    Sri Lanka is given a choice of two stinking sham leaders.

    Had Ranil disappeared after his resounding defeat by Chandrika ( 1995 ?) by now the UNP would have produced a good leader who is a real alternative.

    The rascal stayed on , pretending to be a sort of economic wizard and convincing a few thousand Colombo based mediocrities that he is a wizard on economics, Ukraine issue, Indian Ocean, Buddhism etc etc. I don’t know why he has not written on these subjects.This Colombo vote base is not enough to five him a single parliament seat.

    In the Bond scam he appointed mahendran who sold Bonds to his son in law. People protested. ranil reappointed mahendran !

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      DS,
      You make a lot of irrelevant noise but still haven’t answered my question. What did Ranil do that Gota is doing better?
      Be a man and answer. Calling people names is not an argument, unless you are six years old. Be honest, if you think Ranil is bad, who is better? Be straight, you are promoting the current disaster as better than Ranil??

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    Ranil has been in parliament from 1977 until he was unceremoniously kicked out by the people in 2020.

    Now you are comparing him to a middle order ex soldier without any experience.

    Yet who ever contests Ranil , the people vote against him !

    Is there anything more to say about a failed politician ?

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    Time has come when votes will not matter as karmic consequences will take their toll and all the robbed wealth will not benefit the corrupt whatever they continue to offer to Kaliamma. This is not about failed politicians but a failed satan thrown into hell. The story is in Ezekiel 38, with invasion from the north and will go to a prolonged completion till truth, justice, righteousness and peace finally comes to the created universe.

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