3 May, 2024

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Katchatheevu Crisis – Seal The Deal Mr. Modi

By Ayesh Indranath Ranawaka

Ayesh Indranath Ranawaka

I hold Narendra Modi in high regard due to his remarkable leadership skills and rapid political growth. He has not continued the Ayodhya temple issue, prevented its ramifications from significantly affecting India’s political landscape. Moreover, his diplomatic efforts to elevate India’s global standing are commendable.

I have closely observed Modi’s evolving ideologies, particularly in his approach towards fostering strong business growth in India. While acknowledging India’s shift towards an open and liberal economy under Modi’s leadership, it’s notable that he seldom acknowledges the pivotal role played by Manmohan Singh, a Congress member, in spearheading this transformation.

As the world’s largest democracy, India’s electoral methods should exemplify integrity and efficacy, especially in its interactions with smaller nations like Sri Lanka, currently facing economic challenges. India, often perceived as a guiding figure for its neighboring countries, should exercise caution and prudence in its dealings.

While the Katchatheevu Island dispute warrants attention, dwelling excessively on historical grievances and past glories isn’t conducive to resolution. It’s imperative to grasp the evolving global dynamics and contemporary realities, rather than relying solely on past narratives.

In light of recent developments, such as Sri Lanka’s economic downturn, it’s essential for India, as the regional powerhouse, to approach issues like the Katchatheevu Island dispute with sensitivity and understanding. Blaming past administrations, like the Congress party, for historical agreements may not serve the interests of fostering constructive dialogue and resolution.

In essence, resolving complex issues like the Katchatheevu Island dispute requires a forward-thinking approach that acknowledges historical context while focusing on contemporary challenges and mutual interests. It is incumbent upon leaders like Prime Minister Modi to demonstrate astute diplomatic leadership in navigating such matters.

India’s Foreign Minister, Mr. Jayashankar, recently conducted a lengthy press conference, aiming to shed light on past events and individuals involved in certain matters. However, we respectfully urge the Foreign minister yo peruse the book titled “Katchatheevu Island and Indo-Lanka Maritime Border Line,” authored in English by Mr. WT Jayasinghe, former Defence /Foreign Secretary in Sri Lanka in Seventies. This text holds significant relevance not only for India’s Foreign Minister, Mr. Jayasankar but also for all officials within our public service. It provides valuable insights into the responsibilities and conduct expected of diplomatic officers, particularly evident in the skilled negotiations between Mrs. Indira Gandhi and Sri Lanka’s Prime Minister, Mrs. Sirimavo Bandaranaike, as depicted within its pages.

This literary work serves to underscore the competence of officials during that era. Hence, we advocate for its thorough examination by government personnel and embassy staff alike. Additionally, we commend the expertise of individuals such as Mr. Shirley Amarasinghe, who, with his profound knowledge of hydrography, served as Sri Lanka’s Permanent Representative to the United Nations. Despite his departure from the position in 1977, his contributions were instrumental in determining the Indo-Lankan maritime boundary. Similarly, Mr. Pinto’s expertise as a legal Advisor significantly contributed to this endeavor.

We harbor a belief that, notwithstanding India’s intellectual prowess during that period, they were unable to counter the compelling arguments presented by Mr. Shirley Amarasinghe and our delegation. While the traditional method of maritime border delineation involves the “Equal Distance,” the relevance of this approach to the Katchatheevu Island issue remains debatable. Historical records indicate varied claims over the island, dating back to different periods of colonial rule. However, we assert that dwelling on historical narratives holds little significance in the present context. What truly matters is the contemporary landscape.

The dialogue surrounding Katchatheevu Island commenced in 1968, India’s Prime Minister Nehru once said, ‘Don’t waste Parliament’s time on a useless island, we are not in to this work anymore’ in 1961. This sentiment was echoed by Indira Gandhi, who likened the island to a mere “useless rock.” Subsequently, an agreement was reached in 1974, granting the island to Sri Lanka, albeit with specific provisions allowing Indian and Sri Lankan fishermen access to its waters. When signing this, it mentions very specific things. That is, “Fishermen from India and Sri Lanka can ENJOY this historic water for fishing activities”. However, amendments in 1976 restricted Indian fishermen’s rights, highlighting the evolving nature of bilateral agreements.

According to the information available to us, historical records from 1974 indicate two key locations where Sri Lankan fishermen operated: Katchatheevu Island and Wadge Bank near Kanyakumari, Mannar Basin. Wadge Bank holds significance due to its abundant rich resources, including a pearl reef and fertile fish breeding areas. An agreement from that time stipulated that Sri Lanka would cease fishing in Wadge Bank, while India would refrain from fishing near Katchatheevu. However, neither Foreign Minister Jayashankar nor Prime Minister Modi has addressed this matter. This agreement ceased to be enforced in 1976. Despite Sri Lankan fishermen being barred from accessing Wadge Bank, Indian Trawlers continue to traverse the waters to Sri Lanka unabated. It has been five decades since 1974, yet this practice persists. It is imperative that India takes proactive measures to address this issue rather than focusing on past grievances ,Who did and who hid. The pertinent question remains: what justification do these Indian fishing boats have under the United Nations Convention Law of the Sea?

Furthermore, the 2017 ban on trawling in Sri Lanka poses significant challenges for our fishermen. This discrepancy in fishing regulations, where Indian fishermen can access Sri Lankan prawns while Sri Lankan fishermen cannot reciprocate, creates an unequal playing field. The economic stakes are high, with India annually earning over 2 billion dollars from shrimp exports alone, compared to Sri Lanka’s total fish export revenue of 350-400 million dollars. The government of Sri Lanka needs to give answers to this problem very soon. India stopped the project of the media telling stories about Setu Samudran, about Hanuman, but Subramaniam Swami filled case against it 15 years before . A case was filed earlier and it was again taken into consideration in the present. I wrote an article against it which was published in the Colombo Telegraph on March 1, 2022. We need to talk about these problems. Otherwise, these problems will arise again in about 50 years time or so. We must face this truth. The only valuable resource we have is the “Katchatheevu” book written by Mr. Jayasinghe. The media’s role in highlighting these challenges, such as the Setu Samudram project, is vital. Legal avenues have been pursued previously and must be revisited. Like Sethu Samudram, this is an endless issue.

The Easter attacks before the last Indian elections underscore the urgency of addressing this issue. It is imperative for both Sri Lankan and Indian citizens to engage in constructive dialogue on matters such as the Katchatheevu Island dispute. We echo the sentiments of past Indian leaders, including Indira Gandhi and Nehru, in questioning the necessity of prolonged efforts regarding Katchatheevu. It is crucial to ascertain whether any concessions were made to India concerning Katchatheevu or Wadge Bank.Is it give n take DEAL? The potential loss of our rights due to silence is a stark reality. If Katchatheevu were to be returned to India, it raises concerns about the environmental impact of Indian trawlers operating in Sri Lankan waters. The Ministry of External Affairs should provide a comprehensive response to India, consulting relevant authorities such as the newly established National Hydrographic Office.

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    A reasonable response to the Katchatheevu issue.
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    But Modi’s position adapted has two bases imv – Electoral politics and geopolitics.
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    On the front of electoral politics, Tamil Nadu politicians I think want their fishermen to encroach Sri Lankan waters happily and Modi needs to take an appropriate position in order to appear legitimate in the eyes of people in Tamil Nadu.
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    On the geopolitucal front India is increasingly threatened by growing Chinese presence in the Indian Ocean as well as in Sri Lanka that includes north and east. As a result they have been desparately trying to get a foothold on any piece of land in the Indian Ocean.
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    China’s initiatives to build connectivity in the region are far more superior to Indias attempted connectivity building even with the support of the West. China’s BRI has already made inroads to Indian Ocean on either side of India through Pakistan and Myanmar, by passing the Strait of Malacca making Indian presence on Andaman and Nicobar islands strategically less important.
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    China is way ahead.
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    Corporation I believe is the way forward not confrontation nor containment.

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      There is copper plate evidence of ownership of Kachchaitivu by Sethupathy of Ramnad. Only way Srilanka can erase this evidence is to rob and destroy it like what they did to potsherds with Tamil Brahmi inscriptions found in Tissamaharama. There is no evidence of Kachchaitivu belonging to Jaffna kingdom. It is difficult to check because the history of Jaffna written on Ola leaves which were stored in Jaffna library were targeted and burnt by Government thugs. Is it not injustice to deprive Tamil Nadu fisherman who had used the island to rest and dry their nets for hundreds of years. Kachchaitivu is a useless piece of land, but by conceding it, India has lost large area of maritime economic zone. There are ten sand mounts between Talaimannar and Dhanushkodi. I am told that they have found gas deposit in the sixth sand mount nearer to Srilanka. If Kachchaitivu is taken, the sand mount with gas deposit will fall within Indian territory, hence the need to take over Kachchaitivu. Looks like Kuveni’s curse is keeping chasing Srilanka.

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        The fact is India never conceded Katchatheevu.
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        If they have a legitimate claim or want to claim it regardless of legitimacy for other reasons best known to them that is a different matter.
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        Keeping chasing Sri Lanka? If I made such mistake your pals and fans would have already made enough demeaning comments here referring to my father and mother even.
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        That said I like your very scientific thinking – Kuveni’s Curse – a good one indeed. You seem to learn albeit slowly. Hoole is faster and a bit too decent for the rowdy lot here. Wonder what’s his attraction to CT is? Other chap from UOJ is hopeless.
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        I’ve heard that the Americans recorded everything in Jaffna Library on microfilm soon before it was torched. And those records exist in some American University’s library. Not sure if that’s true. May be you know?
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        Sorry I don’t know about the Tamil Brahmi artefact you refer to. Archeology hasn’t been one of my interests, if at all it was paleontology.
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        I didn’t find much science, particularly with reference to genetic studies and to Ramayanaya, in your essay that claimed to be an attempt to rewrite history based on scientific findings.
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        If that is your intention I think you need to take a more scholarly approach and a more academic discourse than writing to an online tabloid and rile up unnecessary animosity.
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        TBC

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          Continued…
          .I had raised several querries about your claims but I noticed that you had not responded to any of them.
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          From what you have written I doubt if you understand the difference between a gene, a haplotype and a haplogroup, and a point mutation, before deciphering genetic studies
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          Why don’t you contact Professor Vajira Dissanayake who is in fact a geneticist and been a party to some of these studies done on the particular subject.
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          He is the current Dean of the Faculty of Medicine, Colombo, in which you are an alumnus of apparently?
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          He had also been the President of the Commonwealth Medical Association and is currently the Chairperson of the Board at Global Genomic Medicine Collaborative.
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          If you want to rewrite history you need to do lot better.
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          Have a good day.

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            This should have come inbetween the above two comments:
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            Sorry I don’t know about the Tamil Brahmi artefact you refer to. Archeology hasn’t been one of my interests, if at all it was paleontology.
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            I didn’t find much science, particularly with reference to genetic studies and to Ramayanaya, in your essay that claimed to be an attempt to rewrite history based on scientific findings.
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            If that is your intention I think you need to take a more scholarly approach and a more academic discourse than writing to an online tabloid and rile up unnecessary animosity.
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            I had raised several querries about your claims but I noticed that you had not responded to any of them.

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            Is Prof. Vajira Dissanayake a Govigama?

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            Genetics is an insignificant field in medicine, which most of doctors do not care about. Study on Srilanka population was done led by Kamini Tennekoon.

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        Hello Doctor,
        An offshoot of Cairn UK drilled 2 productive wells called Dorado and Barracuda. The other Wells drilled near Adam’s Bridge Pesalai 1, 2 and 3 were declared Dry, Capped and Abandoned.
        Unfortunately the ownership of Kachchaitivu will make no difference to Sri Lanka’s ownership of the productive fields as they are South of Adam’s Bridge which means that the International Boundary will not change there.
        Best regards

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          LS,
          “Productive” is relative.

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          Wells drilled looking for oil are failure. What I said was natural gas deposit. Recently Indian High Commissioner who wanted to go to the 6th sand dune was not allowed, but only to the 2nd sand dune where he performed pooja for the blessing of land bridge to be constructed between Dhanushkodi and Talaimannar.

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        Kuveni’s Curse
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        “There are thousands
        of Kuwenis among us,
        Walking with burning feet,
        She wanders carrying the weight of the sins of men,
        Her heart and body destroyed by the sins of men…
        Yet,
        Her soul shall remain unbreakable,
        Remerging to life through the blazing fires,
        She will rise as a fierce leopardess,
        Shining in black and gold
        With a sharp and venomous tongue of glass,
        And she shall vengefully crush the sinners,
        Regaining her lost honour”
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        By Ama H. Vanniarachchy
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        https://ceylontoday.lk/2023/11/25/unveiling-the-veiled-part-viii/
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        Keep going…. you seem to be on the right track with Kuveni’s Curse…

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        Hello Doctor,
        You said “Only way Srilanka can erase this evidence is to rob and destroy it like what they did to potsherds with Tamil Brahmi inscriptions found in Tissamaharama”. I have looked at photographs of the Tissamaharama inscription No. 53 from a potsherd. This can be downloaded here – https://www.academia.edu/76678421/Tissamah%C4%81r%C4%81ma_Early_Br%C4%81hm%C4%AB_Potsherd_Inscription
        Brahmi is usually read from left to right but there are some examples of the opposite. There is much debate about this particular potsherd, one being that the Tamil decipherment involves reading from right to left for part and left to right for the other part. Where do you find evidence for the destruction of this (or other) potsherds? Most things are not “Black and White”, in this case they are “Red and Black”
        Best regards

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          LankaScot – “Red and Black”. Are you referring to labels that are Scotch by that names by any chance!? 😎

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            Hello Ruchira,
            Your knowledge of the subject is a giveaway😊
            GlenFiddich only at new Year for me. Have you seen the price in Sri Lanka?Just a wee dram for me from now on.
            Best regards

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              LankaScot – 😀 I like Glenfiddich, especially the name. It’s a little pricier I think. But in my household it has always been the “Red and Black”, only issue is the Junior prefers Black while the Senior’s choice has been Red for some unknown reason. And we prefer blended for reasons only known to us. We are quite humble in that sense. Your portion size, if you could call it that, seems to give away your age 😏 – coz its the same with the senior here, except for on very rare occasions.

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              LankaScot – what about wines? Anything you prefer you find here in the market? Assuming that you do enjoy a wine now and then.

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                Hello Ruchira,
                Most of my colleagues back in Qatar were French and liked the expensive “Chateau” wines. For me the cheaper “Beaujolais Villages” reds were very nice.
                Not much choices here but Keells Supermarket has a few French and Chilean.
                Why does Sri Lanka not produce wine? I am sure that good grapes could be grown in some of the Terraces.
                The local Arrack is far too strong for me. However given the economic conditions here (and they are not getting better) I notice that illicit distilled “stuff” is more common.
                Best regards

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                  “I am sure that good grapes could be grown in some of the Terraces.”
                  Only Jaffna produces grapes of any description.
                  We may be too close to the equator to produce good grapes, which demand longer sunlit days for sugar conversion.

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                  Hello LankaScot- didn’t see this before. Yes I doubt you’d get the same choices you had in Qatar here. I think the market for wine here is small. For example foreign liquor prices have sky rocketed since the economic crisis but wine prices I noticed still remain comparatively low. I guess producing wine is a craft of its own that no one here so far has thought of mastering. But I think there used to be some local wines – at least one- a coconut wine? I can vaguely remember but that was about 20 years back. Not seen it anywhere recently. I have come across those who make wine in their houdeholds for personal consumption not for commercial purposes. You get thambili and I have also come across Rambutan wines. But not sure if they could be technically considered wines. Chilean and Australian ones are supposed to be more popular here and of course there are South African ones too. I think something to do with more frequent shipping from these locations than any quality of the wines themselves. Anyway nice exchanging few comments. But I think my original concern was I didn’t get what you meant by “Red and Black” not “Black and White”

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                  PS: As for local arracks, if you want to try, try Governor’s Choice. It’s a little smoother than some others. Some prefer Vat 9 too, as opposed to 69. :)

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        Hello Dr. Sankaralingam,
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        Kuveni’s Curse continued…
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        “She emerges from the darkness of the past,
        Her heart filled with misery,
        Her dark eyes filled with tears…
        Her dark thick locks weighing on her delicate shoulders…

        Kuweni, the dark-skinned woman,
        The wronged woman,
        Stares at us with her dark eyes,
        Her eyes filled with anger,
        Her delicate hands raised up to the sky,

        Pleading to the divine energy,
        She swears for revenge,
        She curses him and his descendants,
        Her heart beats with anger and agony.
        She evokes the wrath of the divine motherhood,

        As she was wronged by him!
        She curses him and his descendants to be doomed,
        For causing unjust on womanhood
        Kuweni, the beautiful sweet damsel,

        The fierce woman, the naive lover, the loyal wife, and the protective mother,
        Becomes an evil demoness who devours men, in patriarchy,
        As she battles to cause justice to her womanhood”
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        By Ama H. Vanniarachchy
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        https://ceylontoday.lk/2023/11/25/unveiling-the-veiled-part-viii/
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        Hell hath no fury like a woman wronged… be careful what you wish for… it was for women from Tamil Nadu, Vijaya rejected Kuveni….

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    If India wants Kachchativu, then India must allow 7 million Tamils and Marakkala Muslims in Sri Lanka to return to their motherland Tamil Nadu.

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      Very good proposition. On the same token India must allow 15 million descendants of Kallathonies in Srilanka to return to their motherland Bangladesh. Even Veddhas who walked into Srilanka through India must be allowed to join their relatives in India, one of whom is the current president of India.

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        Hello Doctor,
        The Veddas were very clever they flew in Rama’s Golden Chariot to Sri Lanka bypassing India.
        Best regards

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          LS
          A minor correction.
          Rama did not own a flying device, and it was Ravana that flew one on license, just to kidnap a lady, who was the former’s wife.

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            Hello SJ,
            If Santa Claus can fly with his Reindeer and Carriage so can Rama. In the West they have a saying that only women can multi-task. Ravana with 10 heads and 20 arms makes a mockery of women’s multi-tasking abilities. On a more serious point, there are many myths and legends in Europe that most people treat as stories that might have some basis in fact, however no-one takes them as Gospel truth. Here in South Asia a story written around 2500 years ago (with parallels to the Trojan Wars) is taken by a large population as being historical fact. OK there are those that still believe that the bible is the “Word of God” but in my country they are a small minority. If Thor can have his magic hammer (Mjölnir) then Ravana can have his Flying Chariot.
            Best regards

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              ” If Thor can have his magic hammer (Mjölnir) then Ravana can have his Flying Chariot.”
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              The worst, or best, depending on the way you look at it, part is, Marvel and DC comics are raking in billions of dollars by commercializing Thor and the likes while the idiots here are killing each other over Ravana and other such myths.
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              Some fellas have a long way to go…! They’ll probabbly depart before they ever learn anything sensible.

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              LS
              I did not question his ability. I just put the record straight.
              His arrow could pierce 7 trees and return to his quiver but, somehow, he did not own a flying machine

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                Hello SJ,
                mea culpa, I shouldn’t be so flippant😢
                Best regards

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        But most of the ancestors of most the present day Chingkallams did not arrive from some La La land now in Bangladesh, but largely arrived from what is present day Kerala and Thamizh Nadu. Have you seen most Bengalis from Bangladesh quite Chinky or east Asian looking but darker, still not dark as the average Chingkallam, compared to the largely Hindu Bengali native to west Bengal( not the Hindu or Muslim east Bengal immigrants).

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    Modi is very careful and is not stupid like Gandra Gandhi and Karunanithy both of whom have suppressed certain facts. After India’s independence from British rule, an Ordinance G.O. as “Revenue village within the limits of Kachchathivu Rameswaram, Survey No. 1250 of Kachchathivu”. No. 2009: Published on 11.08.1949. Above all, it is also mentioned in a Copper Plate dated 1531 that ‘Kachhaitivu was a part of the Kingdom of the Sethupati kings’. It was found in the excavations of the Archeology Department of India. It was in the memory of King Sethupati that for hundreds of years till today everyone calls that sea area as ‘Sethu Samudram’. That is why the Government of India has started a project named ‘Sethu Samudra Project’. In the epic Ramayana believed by millions of Hindus, there is also a belief that Kachchaitivu is the island where Sri Rama and Vali fought. In a parliamentary debate held on 23.07.1974, the then Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee, who was the then Member of Parliament from Gwalior, referred to Kachchaitivu as ‘Vali Island’. What a great Hindu faith Indians have lost! Why is Kachachaitivu, which contained so many historical facts and religious beliefs, was given to Sri Lanka Lanka? Moreover, Sri Lanka has violated 5th and 6th Articles of the Kachchativu Agreement.

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    Continued ………
    Why Sri Lankan Navy has killed or injured or arrested 6,189 Indian fishermen, seized 1175 fishing boats and auctioned some in the last 20 years?

    There are also reports that Sri Lanka has allowed the Chinese military to use India’s backyard Kachchtivu as its base on different pretexts. Accordingly, if India does not recover Kachchativu, Kachchativu is going to be a big threat to India’s sovereignty and territorial integrity in the future. In that case, there is room for India to use Kachchatheevu as a Strategic Security Station. Similarly, there are many islands in the sea on the eastern side of China. When China acquires some islands, it should be remembered that countries like the Philippines and Japan opposed China in order to keep the islands as their Strategic Security Base. Moreover, I think if the Supreme Court of India finds that there is some procedural irregularities (without obtaining the consent of Tamil Nadu by placing the issue before the Tamil Nadu Assembly) in handing over Kachchativu to Sri Lanka, India will just march into Kachchativu and retrieve it. Before that Modi will find it out to retrieve it through diplomatic negotiations and if Modi finds that Kachchativu has become a threat to its sovereignty & territorial integrity by allowing China to invest on some projects in Kachchativu or in its surroundings, Indian Military will just occupy it.

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      AR
      “killed or injured or arrested 6,189 Indian fishermen”
      If you add scolded and threatened, we will have a more impressive number.
      All who were detained by the Navy and local fishers got released by Indian HC intervention.
      The rogues have been at this act of robbery at high seas now for a quarter of a century.

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        SJ,
        You can get it verified through Dr.S.Jaishankar.

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        SJ,
        According to the Peruvari case judgment in 1960, an Amendment to the Indian Constitution, India could give a part of the country to a foreign country. only if it has been tabled before both Houses of Parliament and passed it. It was not even tabled before the Tamil Nadu Legisture. It was a high handed act of both Indra Gandhi and M.Karunanithi. Having known this, Sri Lanka should not have accepted Kachchaitivu.

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          AR
          I was talking about banditry in high seas.
          And you are telling me “thuttukku rendu kottaippaaku” (“two arecanuts for a penny” or “malle pol” in Sinhala)
          It is hard for you to comment on that I appreciate.

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        “The rogues have been at this act of robbery at high seas now for a quarter of a century.”

        Shouldn’t Chinamen help Sri Lanka to prevent all such intrusion into Northern Seas by Hindian Fisher Folks?

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    Part I
    The thirteen-paragraph article highlights the book written by Mr. W. T. Jayasinghe. But is the author doing justice to Mr. Jayasinghe and his book when in the 10th paragraph of his article he states that “an agreement was reached in 1974, granting the island to Sri Lanka”. I am informed of the following: (1) The agreement was centered on the maritime boundaries between the two countries. (2) During the talks between the two countries, Mrs. Gandhi voiced the opinion that the Kachchativu island was Indian territory as such the boundaries should reflect the same. (3) Mr. Jayasinghe produced the relevant documentation to show that all along during British domination of India and Sri Lanka, the British Governor in Colombo administered the Territory, although there were talks between the delegations of the two British Governors of Colombo and Madras on the subject deciding that the status quo to remain. (4) In 1947 Aug 15 when India became independent it exercised no jurisdiction on the island. Hence it was never Indian Territory for it to grant the same to Sri Lanka. Mrs. Gandhi and her officers accepted Mr. Jayasinghe’s representation upholding the principle of “Uti possidetis iuris”.

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    Part 2
    There is no question about the integrity of Mr. Narendra Modi’s leadership and his achievements. The cornerstone of his leadership is that he has personally gained nothing out of the Indian system. It is on record that he did not invite any of his party stalwarts to his beloved mother’s funeral and he and his relatives grieved the loss and behaved like normal citizens in the funeral although the Indian security did not let lose its prime minister by keeping a good guard at a distance. However, it is of very bad taste to besmirch the name of Mrs. Indira Gandhi as a traitor saying that she gave the Kachchativu islands to Sri Lanka and to make an election issue just to get the Tamil Nadu leaders on the side of BJP, ignoring that the deal in 1974 got India the resource rich Wadge Bank. Had there been no Rahul Gandhi in the congress this issue would not have arisen as election noise. What is unpardonable is the behavior of Mr. Jayshankar. True! He is now a politician, but does that mean he should lower his standing to the level of a sepoy in Indian politics?

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    Part 3
    If anyone thinks that Kachchativu, the fishing exploits in the vicinity etc. are matters entirely between the governments and the affected citizens Sri Lanka and India then he is making a big mistake. The unfortunate border dispute between India and China coupled with other border issues with Pakistan has escalated the scene of the dispute beyond the mountainous Himalayas. India has sent its former service chiefs to Taiwan and is making a presence in that locality to the annoyance o China. Some months ago, the Chinese ambassador in Colombo saw it fit to visit cum paying religious respects to the Nallur Temple in the standard top-less attire of a Hindu devotee. That got publicity but other subsequent building of bridges between China and people in the Jaffna peninsula is unknown. That part of the Tamil elite of the North who are beholden to India may assure that no further developments have taken place, but stealth is such that events should take place even beyond their knowledge. The economic disparities, lack of opportunities and the resulting enmity is fertile ground for third party intervention. Any third-party intervention may not be controllable by the government in Colombo.

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    Part 4
    Indian officials, scream as if excreta is about to be expelled soiling their clothes if and when a Chinese research ship berths in the far flung port of Hambantota citing security reasons. Colombo now has banned all research ships, perhaps of any country, thus pleasing the Indian officialdom. Now if some multipurpose maritime hi-tech handheld devices of a third country were to be in the hands of the economically disadvantaged, for direct purpose of enhancing the economy coupled with defence capabilities, the Indian officials can suffer from perpetual diarrhoea. Certainly, that is much worse than a research ship berthing in Hambantota. Indian presence in the South China Sea may be countered by Chinese virtual presence in the Palk Strait. BJP politicians now having dragged the Kachchativu island issue in the election platform may be called upon to fulfil their stand after the elections. Therefore, it is in the interest of all in India and Sri Lanka to stop this rhetoric about Kachchativu to have an honest dialog as to how best that every body could economically benefit from the available resources in the vicinity and thereby not warranting a third party contribution to the issues.

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      Archaeological evidence demonstrate that people who lived in Tamil Nadu and northern parts of Srilanka are the same. Therefore Kachahitivu belongs to Tamils only and not to north Indians or Sinhalese. How can both decide on the land belonging to Tamils. Also before British came, it was administered by Sethupathy of Ramnad of Pandyan kingdom. So British had no right to change this. W.T.Jayasinshe has deliberately omitted this fact to argue his case. Srilanka officials are also screaming in the same manner when legitimate claim to Kachchaitivu is made. Russia annexed Crimea and nothing could be done about it. China has annexed parts of Arunachal pradesh and Kashmir and nothing could be done about it. India should take a brave stand on this matter. Best solution is to create Ealam, after which Kachchaitivu will become part of it and Srilanka does not have any claim.

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        Hello Doctor,
        So, like Putin did, you want India to ignore the United Nations and International Law again. Good Luck, I am not a great fan of China and their claims in the South China Sea, but they may have something to say in this matter.
        Best regards

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          LankaScot

          “Good Luck, I am not a great fan of China and their claims in the South China Sea, but they may have something to say in this matter.”

          Of course Pakistan’s all weather friend China could not do a thing during the creation of Pakistan nor during the invasion of Sri Lanka in 1987 when the entire Sri Lankan forces were hiding either behind their women folks or behind VP’s fat bum.


          Even if the Chinese have something to say, will they fight a nuclear war with Hindia just to protect the useless Sri Lankans?
          No, not a chance.

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            Hello Native,
            China has a 99 year lease on Hambantota and various other interests in Sri Lanka. They were in the past regularly docking their “Research Vessels” in Sri Lanka and even recently have been seen “loitering” – https://chinaglobalsouth.com/2024/03/12/two-chinese-research-vessels-operating-in-the-indian-ocean-are-making-new-delhi-very-anxious/
            They regularly harass Philippine shipping and make false islands in the South China Sea, with hardly any response from the UN or the USA.
            Not that I approve of their behaviour, but it’s worth keeping an eye on them.
            Best regards

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              Hello Native,
              Just had a quick look on AIS = only 9 Vessels currently in Hambantota and 6 more expected in the next 30 days.
              Not a great deal of activity for such an expensive facility.
              Best regards

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                LankaScot

                “Not a great deal of activity for such an expensive facility.”

                Sorry you have misunderstood the purpose of building one or more white elephants, the purposes are:

                1. Large amounts of commissions receivable.
                2. Ceremonial/memorial centres for those who (mis)ruled, misappropriated state powers and resources, in the name of serving the country.
                3. Providing jobs for the party boys (sometime girls too) need to keep the wheels of nepotism going.
                4. Great honour to name all such projects after great warrior family for winning the war, despite the fact that the psychopath VP won it for Mahinda.

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                  LS, have you visited, Mattala MR international airport ??? I did . The white elephant is as empty as Lankan treasury. May be a port and an airport in Katchatheevu may help with long lost sovereignty. ( further commissions )

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                    It’s purely an election gimmick. Especially when elections coincide, the comedy gets intense. Major / national , news portals gave a miss to Modi’s passing comment, during election campaign. ( at best a random news ). I asked few colleagues of mine about Katchatheevu, not surprisingly , clueless or not concerned.

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                      “Ashok Kantha, a former Indian ambassador to Sri Lanka, said that the 1974 agreement led to further agreements clarifying the maritime boundary with Sri Lanka. One such agreement in March 1976 recognised India’s sovereign rights over the Wadge Bank – a 10,300 sq km (4,000 sq mile) trawl fishery site – and its rich resources.
                      *
                      In comparison with Katchatheevu island, the Wadge Bank is considered one of the world’s richest fishing grounds, located in a much more strategically important part of the sea. The agreement also granted India the right to explore the Wadge Bank for petroleum and other mineral resources.
                      *
                      “The 1974 agreement placed Katchatheevu on the Sri Lankan side of the IMBL (international maritime boundary line) but it also paved the way for the understanding of 1976, which recognised India’s sovereign rights over the Wadge Bank and its rich resources,” Kantha said.
                      *
                      However, the 1976 agreement restricted both the countries’ fishermen from fishing in the other’s waters.”
                      *
                      Will everything be renegotiated if Modi & his FM are serious?

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                    Hello Chiv,
                    I did once on my return from Sri Lanka to Qatar. We flew from Colombo to Mattala International for no apparent reason. No passengers embarked or dis-embarked and we didn’t take on any fuel etc. One of life’s great mysteries 😎
                    Best regards

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              “They were in the past regularly docking their “Research Vessels” in Sri Lanka”
              How regularly?
              When did it become an issue?
              Is China the only country whose naval vessels dock in this country’s harbours?
              *
              I wonder if you know that the 99-year lease was on the request of the GoSL to find cash to repay debts other than owing to China on that harbour. The matter has been well researched and the debt trap thesis has been debunked.
              It was a stupid move by the GoSL and even MR denounced it.
              *
              I agree fully that we must keep our eyes and ears open about any foreign military involvement. But people are selective somehow.

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                Hello SJ,
                I have sailed in proper Research Vessels. One of my Friends was on the British Antarctic Survey and spent time on so called “Research Vessels” in the Falklands. I was on an Italian Diving and Scientific Research Ship. We had a Mini Submarine and various ROVs and even Mass Spectometers. We had various winches, baskets and sampling containers for dredging on the Sea bottom etc. I have installed and maintained both Shipboard and Surveillance Radars, Slotted Waveguide and Doppler. I know what Synthetic Aperture Radars look like, but haven’t maintained them. I have also installed, Set-up and maintained sophisticated DF (Direction Finding) Systems – Scientific Research Vessels don’t need these.
                I personally am not worried about the Chinese spying on Sri Lanka, there is nothing out of the ordinary that is worth investigating here, but the Indians get very nervous and asked Sri Lanka to stop hosting them, possibly with some money changing hands.
                I already suggested a very cost effective solution to the Fishing problem in the North Border areas using 2 or 3 Towers and some Terma Radars, but the issue seems to be political not Technical.
                Best regards

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        Archeological evidence, if authenticated, is one thing. The principle of “Uti possidetis iuris” is another. If we are going by archeology and the similarities on either side of the Palk Strait then why only an Eelam? Breakaway the state of Tamil Nadu from India and breakaway that part of Sri Lanka called Eelam and join them together to form a Greater Tamil Nadu. It is important that not to make a Kolam by dragging out an Eelam when the livelihood of many in the North who depend on maritime resources matter.

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          “… Make a Kolam by dragging out and Ealam…” . 😆

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            *an NOT and 😏

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        Dr. GS,
        “Archaeological evidence demonstrate that people who lived in Tamil Nadu and northern parts of Srilanka are the same.”
        DNA evidence is that northerners are different from Indian Tamils, even if they speak almost the same language.

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          OC Amava, Dr GS is correct, but you are also correct, but it depends on when. He refers to an ancient time and you to the current period. The current day Northerners are different from Indian Thamizh, due to mixing up with male immigrants who arrived from somewhere Northwest India around 2500 years ago. However, despite mixing up with them, they still have retained their ancient Thamizh identity, unlike the Dravidians from the south of the island, who also got mixed up with these immigrants but eventually got Prakritised, especially after the arrival of Buddhism and evolved as modern Chingkallams. Dr. GS is referring to the ancient Dravidian population who were living before this time and you are referring to the current population. Despite the genetic difference they still are basically the same people sharing the common Thamizh identity and largely the Saivite Hindu religion.

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            ” He refers to an ancient time and you to the current period. “
            So, OC is talking of archaeology of modern times.
            A clever try though.
            What will your maamaa say about this?

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              The comment is mine and you do not have to involve other people unnecessarily. I also can think for myself, nasty self-hating old man, with is constant sarcastic quips and so what is wrong with what I stated? It is the truth. Can you prove otherwise?

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                Constantly and sarcastically trying to belittle and trivialize my comments with the sarcastic quip ” What will your maama say about this”. Very cunning and clever you sarcastic, self-hating Thamizh Thaatha. Yes, it is due to what Mama wrote and his comments many Thamizh here, including me, opened their eyes about the true origins of the island’s Chingkallams , Thullukans and the real history of the island or even if they knew, they many were not brave enough to comment about this. It was only after his comments and all the abuse and sarcasm from people like you, Chingkallams and Thullukans , that other Thamizh and this includes me started to comment and this is a fact.

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                By your own admission, you plagiarize “maamaa”.
                Then he rushes to your defence.
                I am surprised this time.
                Perhaps ‘archaeology of current period’ is entirely your own bright idea.
                OC laughlingly cited the nice not-so-old doctor: “Archaeological evidence demonstrate that people who lived in Tamil Nadu and northern parts of Srilanka are the same.”
                You tried to patch up with “He refers to an ancient time and you to the current period.”
                The idea of “archaeology of current period” has nothing to do with true or false, it is nonsense.
                *
                In any event, I am glad if ‘maamaa’ is cured of the habit of defending your not so clever ideas.

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    I read something interesting.
    ….. dwelling excessively on historical grievances and past glories isn’t conducive to resolution. Interesting, indeed!
    I am not speaking of Ayodhya temple issue, or even Katchatheevu Island dispute. I am speaking of the festering National wound of Sri Lanka.
    Do you want a better future for your children. Stop being childish.
    Brand all race supremacists as traitors.

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    India does not have the military capacity to take Katchatheevu from Sri Lanka. On a different note, is Modi going to investigate why India is selling sub-standard medicine to Sri Lanka? The eyedrops that Keheliya was distributing came from India. India is similar to China, very poor QC standards in manufacturing. The QC is probably worse for India.

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      The Pfizer vaccine has caused serious heart problems and deaths across the globe, and was it made in India or China?

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        Some peoole seem to think they are smart when they pop questions like below:
        .
        “The Pfizer vaccine has caused serious heart problems and deaths across the globe, and was it made in India or China?”
        .
        It wasn’t a Quality Control (QC) issue to begin with.
        .
        It could have been if they were manufactured in India.

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          In fact, research found that the COVID-19 vaccines, including Pfizer, have the opposite effect. They actually reduce the risk of getting heart disease, for up to a year.

          Covid vaccines cut risk of virus-related heart failure and blood clots, study finds

          Researchers say jabs substantially reduce for up to a year the chances of serious cardiovascular complications

          Covid vaccinations substantially reduce the risk of heart failure and potentially dangerous blood clots linked to the infection for up to a year, according to a large study.

          Researchers analysed health records from more than 20 million people across the UK, Spain and Estonia and found consistent evidence that the jabs protected against serious cardiovascular complications of the disease.

          Covid vaccines, including those from Oxford-AstraZeneca, Pfizer and Moderna, proved highly effective at preventing severe disease in the pandemic, but medicines regulators also recorded increases in some rare heart and clotting conditions, similar to those found with other vaccines such as flu shots.

          https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/mar/12/covid-vaccines-cut-risk-virus-related-heart-failure-blood-clots-study

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            Lester – Yes. In giving any medicine, including vaccines, there’s something called a risk benefit analysis that is usually considered. A drug is only given if the benefits out-weight risks. Given the public health burden that the Covid19 pandemic posed the benefit of these vaccines were known to have outweighted the risks, including the risks discovered that the above person has mentioned, in retrospect by the post marketing surveillance. Post marketing surveillance (PMS) and so called real world data are considered the 4th and the final stage of a clinical trial and their had been instances where some drugs were recalled or withdrawn from the market after this 4th stage of clinical trials. This isn the case with Pfizer’s Cominarty vaccine because its benefits are still considered more than risks. This hasn’t got anything to do with poor production conditions a Quality Control. Most drugs have some adverse effects. Not all adverse effects are detected by the first three stages of the clinical trials or at the so called bench (in the lab during drug design and development). Some are discovered only at the bedside, especially the rare ones. Hence the importance of PMS.

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              PS – Drug approval and registration by FDA in the US or NMRA in the case of Sri Lanka prior to their marketing is done considering the data presented to these authorities following the third stage of clinical trials which sometimes do not detect very rare side effects. Hence the requirement for aforementioned PMS which are considered 4th stage clincal trials. This is the standard practice.

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              Additionally drug approval by NMRA in Sri Lanka is strict. It is stricter than the process in India. Ours were apparently designed taking Singaporean approval process into consideration as opposed to Indian ones. Yet the fact that these kind of things happens mean there are irregularities in the implementation. Basically its corruption. Without addressing corruption you can not solve them. The issue becomes severe when the suppliers too are corrupt in adition to the local officials and representatives. But some seem to think we should encourage corruption and even fraud and they drive developmental process. *sigh*

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            Lester,
            I appreciate your understanding of vaccines.
            Should you show some understanding of the politics in the country you would be much of a positive contributor.

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            Hello Lester,
            I had AstraZeneca Vaccine in the UK followed by Covishield and Pfizer in Sri Lanka. Previously, 2020, whilst in Qatar I (and 3 colleagues) am sure (but not absolutely certain) that I had a Covid 19 infection. I have never had Covid since ( around 6 negative PCR tests)
            One of my sisters contracted Covid 3 times and suffered severe clotting. She was in the ICU for more than a week during the first infection and has also suffered severe anemia after the third. My 2 brothers and 1 other sister both had Covid but not severe. We are all A+ blood group
            Why do so many people get infected with Covid even after vaccination and is there any correlation with blood group? In my sisters case vaccination afforded her little protection from “thromboembolic” problems. Of course these investigations are normally statistical and need further work – https://heart.bmj.com/content/early/2024/01/24/heartjnl-2023-323483
            Best regards

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              Lanka Scot, effectiveness of vaccine depends of the amount of antibodies your body produces. Vaccine mimics the virus without causing disease, for the body to react to produce defence to combat the virus. So even if the vaccine is potent, your body is letting you down. If you develop fever after receiving vaccine, it is a good sign that you have evoked a good antibody response. What Covid does is to cause auto-immune response which elicits cytokene response resulting in problems in lung function and blood clotting. There are drugs based on monoclonal antibodies (names ending on MAB) which are effective against cytokene storm. When blood clots, it destroys the red cell which contains haemoglobin, resulting in anaemia. If members of your family were prone to Covid infection, then there must be genetic predisposition rather than blood group. Since your sister suffered from repeated blood clots. she must be screened for anti-phospholipid syndrome, which facility may not be available in srilanka. Phospholipids are fat related antibodies formed against your own tissues. These people are treated with anti-coagulants (warfarin) or anti-platelets ( aspirin/clopidogrel)

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          “It wasn’t a Quality Control (QC) issue to begin with.”
          It was worse– cynicism at work

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            Problem in Srilanka is foreign exchange and corruption. So do not blame Indians. Due to lack of foreign exchange they have to go for cheap drugs. In India there are companies which make drugs on franchise, which are quality controlled by parent company and are good, but expensive. They are exported to rich countries and therefore will not waste time with Srilanka. There are other companies on free lance, whose drugs may not be rigidly quality controlled, which may be not effective but cheap. These ones need to find foreign markets and will go out to bribe officials of other countries to sell their drugs. This is what is happening in Srilanka, and therefore get rid of these corrupt people.

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          It was wilful cynicism for profit.
          Worse than neglect.
          Anybody can seem smart if it comes to responding to some.

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      Not sure if you have heard of the scandal at Ranbaxy – the Indian Pharma giant. But here’s quick look if you haven’t:
      .
      “Extracted from Bottle of Lies – Ranbaxy and the Dark Side of Indian Pharma by Katherine Eban with permission from Juggernaut Books.”
      .
      https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraphindia.com/amp/business/the-inside-story-of-ranbaxy-s-dirty-drugs-scandal/cid/1696405
      .
      Ranbaxy eventually collapsed few years ago and was acquired by Sun Pharma.
      .
      I don’t think some of the practices Ranbaxy was found to be engaged in, like “bait and switch” described in the above linked article, is unique to Ranbaxy. My personal experience suggests they are more widely prevalent among host of other companies and products too.
      .
      Best part is if you know any senior medical specialist in Colombo, especially someone who had prescribed Ranbaxy brands, and has had with good relations with the company, when it was in full operation; ask him or her, what was one of Ranbaxy Sri Lanka’s well known marketing strategy to keep the doctors’ loyalty with them!?

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        The Ranil government needs to ban the import of all Indian drugs. The cost is irrelevant. With food poisoning, you can usually recover. With drugs, however, permanent damage to organs can be caused. I was just reading that one guy is suing Keheliya and a bunch of others for 100M Rs in damages due to permanent loss of vision from the eyedrops. Not only should Indian drugs be banned, doctors trained in India should not be allowed to practice in SL. The same for engineers, unless its one of those IITs. These guys take too many shortcuts that are deadly for the local population.

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          Lester lester…. may be we should make you the president! At the risk of few people here getting heart attacks! I am sure you know who they are!

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            Ruchira,

            Like we talked about in the other thread, Ranawaka would be a good leader. Someone with both business and political experience. The engineering background is a bonus. He understands the value of time, efficiency, and identifying the stakeholders. A systems approach can be used to solve complex problems by dealing with the root causes. Again, being an engineer, documentation is vital. Translate that to politics and you have transparency. Innovation is another one. The man can surely find “out of the box” solutions to problems without resorting to communism and white van death squads. Some will call him a “racist.” Who cares. Do you want someone who writes books about “human rights” and hosts meetings with “funny men” (p–ya) aka Ranil or the bugger who gets the job done with verifiable results. Some of these high-IQ people have strange ideas. Transistor guy Shockley believed in eugenics (verifiable Nobel winning racist), Elon Musk wants to populate the word with high IQ babies, the DNA guy Watson said black children are inferior. We still have to give them space (not necessarily outer space) to do their thing.

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              Lester,
              “Do you want someone who writes books about “human rights” and hosts meetings with “funny men” (p–ya) aka Ranil or the bugger who gets the job done with verifiable results.”
              I looked up the meaning of “bugger”. I would say that keeping company with “funny men” is preferable to fornication with animals.
              Really, Lester dear, you can give Ruchira a run for his money anytime as far as malapropisms go.🤣🤣🤣🤣
              “Have a good day”, as the twit keeps saying!

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              Lester – Yes. Ranawaka is a good candidate. In fact I supported him during the last elections before turning to NPP. Because Ranawaka does not seem to have a broad base that could provide him with nation wide support. His popularity is confined to some urban and suburban middle class people, mainly from the Western Province. Though educated they are infective in generating a strong enough political clout. As a result he has to piggy back on various other parties which makes him looks like just another opportunist. But I agree in principle that he has good leadership qualities and potential, but imo lacks support at national level. It is unlikely that one of the major parties would give him a place on their platform to contest for Presidential Elections. For general – Yes.

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                Ruchira,

                Good info. He might not get the endorsement to contest for Presidential elections, because he’s not a radical. Even AKD comes from a similar background. He had to form a new party, NPP, to make a serious run for President. UNP/Ranil is too corrupt to endorse him, although they will endorse someone like Sajith, who only has the family name and nothing else.

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          Yes shortcuts sometines include giving cuts so they could bypass regulations.

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          Lester: what you have presented is anti-India rhetoric.

          Indian pharmaceutical manufacturers supply to the U.S., U.K. many other western nations. Do you think that the Indian manufacturers from whom Sri Lanka and other third world nations procure substandard medicines are the ones approved for supply to the highly regulated markets such as the U.S.?

          First, Sri Lanka needs to establish a robust regulatory framework for importation of medicinal products and comply with it.

          Sri Lanka should not appoint thugs and thieves to head the Ministry of Health who only want to fill their pockets and have absolutely no concerns for the wellbeing of the citizens.

          When we have criminals running the show at this end, who do they seek out at the other end???

          Please feel free to google and educate yourself on the growing global presence of Indian pharmaceutical industry and market share.

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            S
            There are makers of risky drugs in India. There are shady dealers.
            We have been made their victim— knowingly.
            The bad deal has to do with attraction for huge bribes.
            A perfect gentleman can indulge in shady deals even more successfully than a rowdy, as his image makes people trust him.
            The world has been robbed far more by ‘gentlemen’ than by gangsters.

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            Sugandh,

            What is the difference between Keheliya’s pharma racket and the LTTE rackets sponsored by the Tamil Diaspora? Both generated large sums of money through illegal means, including human smuggling, drug smuggling, and extortion.

            “When we have criminals running the show at this end, who do they seek out at the other end???”

            That’s why those holding white flags didn’t get the result they expected. They were running the show for too long. Karma caught up.

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          “The cost is irrelevant. “
          Did you use Calculus or an oscilloscope? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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          Hello Lester,
          I worked with many Indian, Pakistani and European Engineers in the Middle East and UK. One of the best IT Network/Crypto Engineers that I worked with was North Indian, another was from Kerala. A couple of very good Electrical Engineers were from Tamil Nadu. Our Radars and Microwave Communications were installed on 80/100 meter Towers built and serviced by a Tamil Nadu company.
          In the UK I worked in Server Management (in the Midlands) and out of a team of around 150, 30% were 2nd or 3rd generation South Asian (mostly India or Pakistan).
          The shortcuts that you speak of are caused by corruption. Get rid of corruption and the quality will inevitably improve.
          Best regards

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            LS
            Trying to convince Lester?
            You remind me of a person who tried to empty the ocean of all fish.

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              Hello SJ,
              What! there are still fish in the Ocean. I have failed.
              Best regards

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                SJ, LS,

                This is a guy who was supposed to be one of the top students at Royal College, Colombo:
                https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00976-y

                Such scientific misconduct by some Lankans can, unfortunately, reflect poorly on all Sri Lankans when the country is trying to get out of bankruptcy, debt, etc. Indians (and Chinese) in contrast command a lot of respect in the West for their talents, and given their size/population, even any odd cases of misconduct among them won’t reflect poorly on their countries as a whole. It seems Lankans need to do a lot of soul-searching and develop humility.

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                  Agnos,
                  ” It seems Lankans need to do a lot of soul-searching and develop humility.”
                  But Lester is no Lankan. He ran away during the war which he claims to have won.

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                  Hello Agnos,
                  Dias is obviously a clever guy, so I am surprised that he went so far with his deception.
                  In 1989 I had a series of discussions/arguments with a very clever colleague about the “Cold Fusion” scandal. https://undsci.berkeley.edu/cold-fusion-a-case-study-for-scientific-behavior/
                  My point was a practical one ” If Cold Fusion was possible then why was it not seen in the Natural World and why have scientists not achieved Fusion that produces more energy than is put in. Only recently has this been achieved and at very high temperatures (2022). https://www.newscientist.com/article/2414681-nuclear-fusion-reaction-releases-almost-twice-the-energy-put-in/
                  My friends argument was a Quantum Mechanical one – there is a small chance that 2 Hydrogen atoms close together could spontaneously fuse together (similar to the Quantum Mechanical operation of Tunnel diodes). He was wrong and I was right – but probably for the wrong reasons. Anyway getting back to the superconductivity case – every time I accidentally touch a live electrical cable (very very seldom) I become superconductive. Don’t try this at home it can kill you!
                  Best regards

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                  ” It seems Lankans need to do a lot of soul-searching and develop humility.”

                  Particularly those who continue to light candles for suicide bombers on Nov. 27th.

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              SJ,

              “I went from adolescence to senility, trying to bypass maturity.”

              Sound familiar?

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            LankaScot – what about their Electricians!? 😏

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              Ruchira,
              “what about their Electricians!? 😏”
              You really have no idea of what originality is, do you?

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              Hello Ruchira,
              I worked with a few in Qatar ( pretty competent) and one that I trained in Saudi. He was (as I said before) overwhelmed by the amount and variety of tools and Test Equipment that I had (some my own the rest Companies). In Rahima where I lived there were a number of shops that did TV/VCR repair. At that time I was responsible for the Repair and Maintenance of Underwater Cameras, ROVs (Remotely Operated Vehicles) and U-Matic VCRs. I had Oscilloscopes, Digital Voltmeters, Variable DC Power Supplies and whatever else I needed.
              The Indian Repair guys in the shops were using Incandescent Light Bulbs and sometimes an old AVO test meter to repair anything from VCRs to Wall Mounted Air Conditioners (ask Old Codger, he might remember those days) and judging by the stack of broken VCRs at the back of the shop, not very succesfully.
              Best regards

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            LankaScot,

            Those engineers you speak of (in the UK) had to become UK-certified via some professional licensing exam. That in itself is a sort of “re-training” to get them up to speed on UK standards, which includes ethics. As for capability, this is what the electrical grid looks like in India: https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iVbytW0PZcHg/v1/630×420.jpg.

            This is what the train looks like: https://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/151110113255-india-railways-1100×619.jpg

            I could obviously list many other examples. Engineers in India, at least in the South, are a dime a dozen. There are engineering colleges on every street. The only real capable engineers are the IIT graduates, and they generally pursue opportunities overseas upon graduation.

            By the way, Tamil Nadu does not have chlorinated water. What it has is a reservation system for 256 “backward” castes.

            You are correct about corruption. The other issue in India is the education system, which stresses memorization and very little creativity. That’s why you have no Indian equivalent of “Silicon Valley.” What you have is Modi visiting some Ram Temple to satisfy his RSS fantasies.

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              “The other issue in India is the education system, which stresses memorization …”
              .
              True.
              .
              They write entire text books using this approach of memorization instead of gaining an in-depth understanding of the subject.
              .
              And I have run into Indian professionals who advocate the same. Taking short cuts.

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                Quite right.They have memorized every computer algorithm on the planet but then when they write software, the code is full of bugs.The reason Microsoft software is so buggy likely has to do with them hiring large numbers of second-rate “code monkeys” (name for people who code blindly) from India on H1-B visas. 10 iterations of Windows and its still inferior to open-source Linux.

                https://www.orangecountycomputer.com/2010/06/apple-ceo-steve-jobs-says-windows-in-permanent-decline/

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                  Code Monkeys from India made my day! There’s a movie scheduled to be premiered. Directed by Dave Patel called Monkey Man apparently referring to Hanumantha. Indian version of John Wick it seems. Westerners are pretty smart in that sense. They are very strategically calling the Indians Monkeys!

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                ““The other issue in India is the education system, which stresses memorization …”
                .True.” -Ruchira.
                .
                “LS – “My point here is that of all the doctors that treated him prior to his Diagnosis not one thought to look into his Hypertension.”
                Negligence is the norm here, not the exception. Most people are too ignorant to know.”
                -Ruchira.
                That was a fast turn-around.

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              Hello Lester,
              I can look out of my window and see the Electrical Supply and you wouldn’t believe the amount of times I have called the CEB to complain about Power cuts, sometimes lasting up to 24 hours and I’m not talking about during the scheduled shutdowns. My nephew works for SLT and I have seen the Spaghetti inside (and outside) the junction boxes that he has to repair. I reckon he is a magician.
              The point I was trying to make is – there are many intelligent people in all countries. Yes you are right, education makes a vast difference, Every IT Engineer that I worked with in the UK and Qatar had very good degrees (most from UK Universities) and as I taught most of the South Asian ones in Qatar I can vouch for their intelligence.
              Best regards

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                LankaScot,

                You can buy a degree in India. Practically any subject, including engineering and programming.

                India’s fake degrees: hundreds in Singapore, Malaysia, US, Canada left questioning qualifications after Manav Bharti University scandal

                The private university in Himachal Pradesh state sold 36,000 degrees for as little as US$1,362 each, an Indian government agency investigation found
                Graduates of the institution are now being pressured by employers around the world to prove that their qualifications are genuine

                I don’t think you quite understand how corrupt India is. Not that Sri Lanka is any shining example. The problem in India is that you have a population of 1.417 billion. So everything is uber competitive, whether it be the IIT examination or getting a job at a good company. Think about the number of candidates applying for a spot at Oxbridge. Now multiply that by 50K. Those are your odds.

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                  Hello Lester,
                  In conjunction with HR (Human Resources) I used to do the Technical Interviews for our Server Management Dept in the UK. One of the prerequisites for the posts was having an MCSE (Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer) Certificate and a Degree. Passing the MCSE is not easy as you must attend in person one of the Accredited Examination companies (like Pearson) and login with an ID that you have been given previously. Once you have completed the Multiple Choice Questions and submitted them, there is no going back to make any changes. You had to do five Core and two Elective Exams. There have been cases of fraud in the past, but they were investigated and dealt with.
                  The CISCO Networking Exams are more difficult to cheat as they also include Virtual Labs and Configuration Tasks plus Drag and Drop. The next question will change depending on how you answered the last question. One of my CCNI Network colleagues would do the Network Interviews.
                  Having gained the MCSE Certification myself I could quickly ascertain if the Candidate had really passed the Exam. Only once did I think that the Candidate was faking it and he wasn’t Indian.
                  Best regards

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              Lester – Now only I read your explanation to my querry as to how the Govi came to be at the top of the caste hierarchy during the colonial period. I have a vague memory reading about it somewhere and your short explanation confirms it. Thanks.

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                Ruchira,
                “Now only I read your explanation to my querry”
                You mean only you read it? Does your father read it to you, usually? What is a “querry” anyway?

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                  Funneh.

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      Lester

      “India does not have the military capacity to take Katchatheevu from Sri Lanka.”

      Why should India take Katchatheevu from Sri Lanka you silly old man?
      As far as the Hindians are concerned Sri Lanka is the Sinhala state of Hindia. Does it matter whether Katchative is part of Sri Lanka or with Hindia, when entire Sri Lanka is ….. part of ….. Hindia.

      Hindia had done it once and could do it again, it could drop chapati floor bags and …. and bomb the hell out of Kamala, Surgeon General, Weerasekere, ….. and the lot. I suggest they make arrangements to hide behind their women folks, now that VP’s no more the Sri Lankan armed forces had lost their cover exposed to serious trouble.

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