14 August, 2022

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Keep Your ‘Kiribath’, Mr. Gammanpila

By Hameed Abdul Karim

Hameed Abdul Karim

Reading the preamble of Mr. Udaya Gammanpila’s article titled ‘Halalization and end of Sri Lanka food culture’ (‘Ceylon Today’ 24 February, 2013) I got the impression that he was beginning to turn a new leaf in his approach to Muslims and Christian communities living in Sri Lanka, though the title kept nagging at the back of my mind telling me such a transformation was not possible.

All that soppy babble about how it was unnecessary for the Norwegians to teach us religious amity was intended to take another shot at the Muslims via the halaal bogey. If we are to take the word of this self confessed Sinhala nationalist it were the Muslims who shattered the bonhomie that existed between all communities in the country by insisting that their food be ‘halaal’.

Shiv Sena

Much has been written about the halaal controversy created by the Bodu Bala Sena and hijacked by the JHU fearing they might lose the little support they are left with. That is assuming the BBS is not an extension of the JHU like the Shiv Sena is an extension of the Hindu racist party the BJP. No more need to be said about ‘halalization’ now that the Jamiyyathul Ulama has handed the ‘halaal business’ over to the government to do as it pleases thus taking the wind off the sails of the BBS and the JHU. But don’t be surprised if these racist groups come up with some other ‘grievance’ to grumble about. And if they do then those of us, who include decent peace loving Sinhala Buddhists, will need no further proof of the halaal issue being only a pretext for a sinister plot. And this plot could be taking over the reins of government like did the BJP in India.

Jamiyyathul Ulama Equals Prabhakaran?

Be that as it may, I think it was grossly unfair for Mr. Gammanpila to compare the Jamiyyathul Ulama with Velupillai Prabhakaran claiming that the former is more dangerous than the latter because the Jamiyyathul Ulama is making an attempt at social segregation and not territorial segregation. This is absolutely ludicrous and can be seen as a subtle attempt to create hate among rural Sinhala Buddhists against Muslims. The bulk of the urban Sinhala Buddhists don’t care a hoot for the scare mongering of the likes of Mr. Gammanpila. This is patently obvious when you see them patronising Muslim owned restaurants on Galle Road on any given day.

Portuguese Expulsion

Once again we have a Sinhala Buddhist nationalist selling his supremacist ideas to all and sundry. And poor King Senarath pops up again. Mr. Gammanpila tells us that the good king came forward to accept the Muslims that the Portuguese had expelled from Colombo. Here again you begin to get the feeling that it was King Senarath’s magnanimity and charitable bent of mind that prompted him to come to the assistance of the displaced Muslims. But the fact is that King Senarath needed the Muslims to cultivate his lands so that he could be assured of a regular supply of food while he waged war on his fellow Sinhala Buddhists. To the good king Senarath the Portuguese’s expulsion of Muslims was a godsend.

Mr. Gammanpila says that the good Sinhala Buddhists of that time gave these Muslims accommodation in temples and gave them food. But don’t you think it’s rather comical when he says that ‘no Muslim demanded halaal food at that time’? Well, how would he know? Was he there? Maybe, the food was vegetarian with a little bit of fish or ‘karowala’ (dry fish) thrown in for taste. If that was the case then the food would be halaal! So if I get a similar Sinhala ‘buth’ (meal) parcel with or without the ‘dharma chakra’ I would gladly eat it. Same goes for a ‘saiva sapadu’ even with the ‘thrishool’, because these foods, being vegetarian, are halaal for Muslims. Frankly, I think Mr. Gammanpila has still not grasped the actual meaning of the words ‘halaal’ or ‘haraam’. Then again maybe he doesn’t want to on account of his political agenda.

Muslims in Sinhala Armies

Muslims were not lotus eaters during the times of the kings. In fact they were among the best of fighters in Sinhala Buddhist armies to a point where the historian Qyeroz bitterly complains that in all revolts against foreign occupation the ‘Muslims were always on the side of the enemy who happened to be Sinhala Buddhists. Today sections of the descendants of those Sinhala Buddhists consider us Muslims as the ‘enemy’ or ‘outsiders’ or ‘tourists’ or ‘creepers’. Look at how they are treating us. What a travesty of history and justice. There is not even a trace of gratitude for what the Muslims have done for Sri Lanka in history and up to current times. All along we have stood by our faith in Islam whilst Sinhala Buddhist kings and noblemen changed their faiths for posts and privileges. No Muslim did that. We don’t need a pat on the back for standing firm in our faith, but give us some respect. King Dharmapala changed his faith and became Don Juan and became a vassal of Portugal.

Tsunami

When the tsunami hit us the whole nation was plunged into grief. We moved around like zombies, struck by lightning, with devastated looks on our faces. Thousands perished in the disaster and people from all the communities here and around the world came together in one grand display of humanity to console and help those affected. In short it was a humanitarian crisis. So for Mr. Gammanpila to add a sectarian and racial tinge to this humanitarian crisis by bragging that he and his JHU housed Muslims in temples and gave them food goes beyond all decencies. He said the Muslims didn’t ask for halaal food then why are they asking for that now. If the food was vegetarian then, like I said before, it is halaal for Muslims. Unless of course Mr. Gammanpila and his band of merry man had prepared beef curry and fried chicken!

Many were those of other faiths who banded together as groups to help the affected people. None of them identified themselves with sectarian labels as does the overtly self righteous Udaya Gammanpila of the JHU. Millions of dollars poured into the country (some of it went into the pockets of corrupt politicians). Muslims too joined in with men and money helping all communities without any sectarian bias. My religious upbringing and modesty prevent me from elaborating.

What Halaal Found

Something good happened during all the halaal controversy. During a routine check it was discovered that a chemical called ‘L-Cyesteine’ was used by bakers as a taste enhancer for bread and pastry products. What was not known even to the bakers was that this chemical is mainly sourced from human hair, duck feathers or, according to a manager from the products’ Chinese company, hog hair’. This was stated by Mufthi Rizwi of the ACJU in an interview with a weekend paper. Nobody I know would want this ingredient used in bakery products unless of course he or she is an out and out cannibal! In this instance all right thinking people should thank the ACJU for exposing the unsavoury substances that went to make L-Cyesteine.

Hero and Victim

All through his article the self righteous Mr. Gammanpila plays a triple role, that of the good Samaritan, hero and victim. Good Samaritan when he publicised his charity towards the Muslim tsunami victims. Hero of the Sinhala Buddhists, doing his best to save Sinhala Buddhism which according to him and his fellow travelers’ reasoning is facing an imminent threat from Christianity and Islam. But it is fast becoming clear that all these tantrums and propaganda are only pretexts to gain political advantage. This is the identical way India’s BJP operated before they won an election and formed a government of their own. The BJP had its Barbri Masjid campaign. The BBS has, with the full backing of the JHU, has its Barbri Masjid in Daftar Jailani in Balangoda. The BBS has ordered the destruction of Daftar Jailani by the 31st of March. Will President Mahinda Rajapaksa invite the BBS to tea the same way Rajiv Gandhi invited the BJP when they threatened to destroy the Barbri Masjid? Or would he, unlike Gandhi, read the riot act to them?

The JHU’s plan is to relegate Muslims and all minorities to subordinate roles in society like Tonto was to the Lone Ranger. Since the day the BBS and JHU created the halaal controversy Mr. Gammanpila like others in the extremist groups have played the role of victims of Muslim ‘fundamentalism’. Like as if to say ‘we are very good people but since the Muslims want halaal food we have to take a stand and stop this nonsense’. Muslims have always consumed only halaal food since the advent of Islam and never indulged in haraam business like running casinos or bars. The JHU had supported, in violation of Buddha’s teachings which they claim to protect and foster, the establishment of casinos and new bars in parliament over and over again. So instead of playing the victim for political propagandist purposes, Mr. Gammanpila should address issues like alcoholism and gambling among Sinhala Buddhists, not to mention the other evils like child rape and murder that is everyday news these days.

Keep Your Kiribath

Burghers, Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims who have strong bonds of friendship and brotherhood will continue to exchange their delicacies with one another on their ‘festival’ days. And come April I can expect my friends sending me delicious Kiribath, kavun, kokis and kolikutu bananas. And we shall continue this centuries old tradition every year and for all years to come, God willing. Mr. Gammanpila says that he wouldn’t want his milk rice to end up in a dust bin so he won’t be sending this Kerala delicacy to his Muslims friends. Well, Mr. Udaya Gammanpila, you can keep your Kiribath to yourself. There will be a lot of Kiribath going around for days and I am going to wallop as much as I can.

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    Racist like Mr Gammanpila and Ranawaka are living in the past. They quote the past and ignore realities of the present. Turning the clock back is the favourite past time of these people. Since they prefer to live in the past and are prisoners of their oudated ideas and values, there is no improvement for them nor for their followers. They allow their past to define their future and risk become fossils.

    Muslims too must not fall into the same category. Islam is a dynamic and scientific religon which can adapt to the times. The past has the Quran and Hadith which must be understood taking into account the present context. Halal is a modern scientific concept that must be used by muslims but not imposed on non muslims.

    We must admit that there is a failure amongst the muslims world wide to adapt. We have the islamic equivalents of BBS, Shiv Sena which are far more deadly ie Taliban and Al Queda. Moderate muslims and the ulema need to take a firm stand against these extremist just as the followers of other religons need to decry and reject extremist in their own faiths.

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      Halal is a modern scientific concept that must be used by muslims …..
      What is modern and scientific in Halal? As far as I know the difference between a halal chicken and a normal chicken is that the former is slaughtered using a sharp steel knife while some verses from Koran is recited over loud speakers and the later is slaughtered while the butcher sings anything he wants. What is modern and scientific in this process?

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        You are free to think and act as you wish. Muslims who practice islam know its benefits not only in the spiritual but also in the worldly aspects. It is not something that can be explained in a few words or sentences. So you may study the quran and hadith and also practice if you really want to know what it is. Otherwise as they say ‘Ignorance is Bliss’.

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        DHARMA,
        DO NOT TALK OF THINGS YO DONT KNOW.
        HALAL IS NOT A NEW THING.

        HERE IS THE PROPHETIC SAYING , WHICH WAS SAID 1400 YEARS AGO;

        On the authority of Abu ‘Abdullah al-Nu’man bin Bashir (ra) who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah(sas) say:

        Truly, what is lawful is evident, and what is unlawful is evident, and in between the two are matters which are doubtful which many people do not know. He who guards against doubtful things keeps his religion and honour blameless, and he who indulges in doubtful things indulges in fact in unlawful things, just as a shepherd who pastures his flock round a preserve will soon pasture them in it. Beware, every king has a preserve, and the things Allah has declared unlawful are His preserves. Beware, in the body there is a flesh; if it is sound, the whole body is sound, and if it is corrupt, the whole body is corrupt, and behold, it is the heart.

        PL. NOTE; LAWFUL (HALAL)
        UNLAWFUL (HARAM)

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      Safa,

      I would not call them only racial, also uninformed and lunatic too.

      If entire world would do the same as these both suggest to do, there will be a problem among all the nationalities. Europe, Australia, US or in afriican states, there are good labelled halal and non halal food.

      Just to make a issue out of a minor issue has been their motives. If these both would have visited India or other neighbouring countries, they could easily see this.

      What a small world they have been living ? This kind of politicians ( though young) should be taught a lession by lanken buddhist clergy representatives or other religious leaders. What BBS together with this kind of politicans apparently create new problems to draw a different picture about the nation.

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      In everyday Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad. Muhammad directed Muslims to wage war on other religions and bring them under submission to Islam. Muhammad said that Muslims can be put to death for murder, but that a Muslim could never be put to death for killing a non-Muslim.

      After Muhammad died, the people who lived with him and knew his religion best immediately fell into war with each other. Three of the first four Muslim rulers (caliphs) were murdered. All of them were among Muhammad’s closest companions. The third caliph was killed by allies of the son of the first (who was murdered by the fifth caliph a few years later, then wrapped in the skin of a dead donkey and burned). The fourth caliph (Ali) was stabbed to death after a bitter dispute with the fifth. The fifth caliph went on to poison one of Muhammad’s two favorite grandsons. The other grandson was later beheaded by the sixth caliph.

      Fatima, Muhammad’s favorite daughter, survived the early years among the unbelievers at Mecca safe and sound, yet died of stress from the persecution of fellow Muslims only six months after her father died. She even miscarried Muhammad’s grandchild after having her ribs broken by the man who became the second caliph.

      Muslims continued their Jihad against other religions for 1400 years, checked only by the ability of non-Muslims to defend themselves. To this day, not a week goes by that Islamic fundamentalists do not attempt to kill Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists explicitly in the name of Allah.

      Monks at BBS and Mr Gammanpila and others at the JHU know all this and more. That’s why they are taking preventive action so that Sri lanka would not be a Pakistan.

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        Rather than displaying your ignorance and bias by attacking others and their religon, it would be better for you to remain silent.

        In Buddhist teaching, right speech is one of the steps in the eightfold noble path. Its four guiding principles are:

        1. Telling the truth
        2. Not speaking harshly or cruelly
        3. Not engaging in useless speech
        4. Not gossiping

        The Buddha described the guidelines by which he himself decided whether to speak or to remain silent. If he knew something was untrue, incorrect, or not beneficial, he would not say it. “Such speech [the Buddha] does not utter,” he said. If he knew that something was true, correct, and beneficial, then “[the Buddha] knows the time to use such speech.” When his words were true, correct, beneficial, and timely, the Buddha spoke regardless of whether his words would be “unwelcome and disagreeable to others” or “welcome and agreeable to others.” (M 58)

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        Hello (ig)noble,

        There is one common denominator in all muslim countries where there is bloodshed. That is western occupation. There must be something inherently wrong with the white race. For it is this race that killed off the Red Indians in Americas, the Aborigines in Australia, The Maoris in NZ. It is this race that started WWI and WWII and eventually killed millions and millions. I can give a long list of atrocities they committed against their own and others!

        Would you call for preventive actions against all those whites in this country?, which may include the white ambassadors!

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        DO THEY KNOW THIS;

        Everyone knows that Champika Ranawaka was born as a Catholic and became a Buddhist, Why? SWRD was a Christian became a Buddhist, Why?

        HE MAY BE FOLLOWING SWRD UNTIL THE END.

        CHAMPIKA TRYING TO HIDE HIS CHRISTIAN ORIGIN.

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          I have also heard that he spent some time in a seminary and then realized that Christianity would not give him the leeway to hate and found in Sinhala Buddhism, the ideal foil!

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        Well said noble.We can see how Muslims attack Muslims in countries like Pakistan,Iraq and even in Srilanka.Have you seen Buddhist attacks Buddhist any where even they have different sects.

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          While you applaud Noble for propagating more anti Islamic rhetoric, and try to insert falsehoods about criminals being predominantly Muslims, here are some stats for you, totally discrediting your islamaphobic claims.

          It seems out of 20 known mobsters in SL, only TWO are Muslims. Where did you get your information from? Tel Aviv?

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sri_Lankan_mobsters

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        WHAT YOU SAID IS TRUE Mr NOBLE. All over the world muslims get insulted and downcast due to there selfish behaviors. they have been asked to leave Australia and France if they wants to practice there newly invented scientific religion. JAPAN also not allow muslims to have land rites. as they know the danger
        what they try to do in sri lanka became a boomerang for them. Singhala Buddhist will boycott there business even after they remove there hala logo. so let them to do business to there 8% of population.
        Every patriotic sri lankan will respect Mr Champaka ranawaka and Mr udaya gammanpila. and BBS. if Champika is a Christian that will give him a bonus marks. we crust our so called national leaders in Parliament for allowing approval to issue a Halal logo.

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          Selfish behavior is attacking places of worship, boycotting businesses, and being petty about issues like halal and how Muslims dress, when the victims have not in any way provoked or starting trouble.
          “All over the world Muslims do not get insulted because of selfish ways, they get insulted because of Islamphobes and bigots cannot stand the thought of Muslims living in peace. They prefer to attack ALL 1.6 billion Muslims and paint ALL as the same because of what some extremists do, and we know all about extremists even in Sri Lanka, the BBS is another despicable brand that causes problems for this country. Majority of Muslims live in peace wherever they are, the others give Islam a bad name.

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      When talking about haram things , who are the most prominent drug dealers and money launders in the island. When ever illicit drug deals or such cases are exposed Muslims are the prominent dealers. Am I wrong? The observation is not to belittle Muslim community, but as an answe to one of the comments that Muslims never do haram things.

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        Banda,

        I am not sure if what you say is based on fact or your perception. If it is perception I wont blame you because what I know is that if a Muslim is involved the media is quick to point out that it was a Muslim;

        People with racial biases are everywhere and they will present stories according to their world view. Naturally lots of Sinhalese don’t get a mention when they get caught because they happen to be the majority. So again Muslims are unfairly singled out.

        As an aside, I wrote to one gold vahini protesting their racism and of course they ignored my repeated protests. I have a choice and now I don’t tune into their station!

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    Mr Karim in this lengthy treatise, in his suspect wisdom, insists
    “(Muslims) never indulged in haraam business like running casinos or bars…” A little more knowledge – and some research – would teach him
    the “Atlanta”Club at Horton Place was one of the earlier Casinos and Gambling Joints (with other recreation of related nature coming into play) and was synonymous with the popular Mubarak Thaha. He(Thaha) had no time for this divisive Halal and Haraam discourse in his clientele that comprised all communities drinking and gambling away in harmony.

    Capri Club in Kollupitiya and Otters A.C. at Bullers Road count more than 75% of their income in Bar Sales. Prominent Muslim men and professionals vie pugnaciously both for membership, Presidentship and other positions in these well known water-holes.

    Senguttuvan

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      Well said Senguts, As a member of the ‘Blue Elephant’ generation, some of my closest friends were Muslims and they were among the biggest imbibers around. The activities that went on in such establishments could be described as ‘super haram’. I used to buy and still do buy ‘ganja’ from dealer in Maligawatte who wears a tell tale white cap. Also it is well know that Muslims along with members of all other communities engage in large scale narcotics and other illegal activities. That is to say an image of the Muslims being an squeaky clean community is a mirage.

      That being said we have to say NO! to any activity that causes discomfort to members of any community. This nasty strain of BBS nationalism is divisive and targets aspects of those peoples religion. On the Muslim side they should not engage in provocative actions. I wonder how Pakistani’s would feel if products started appearing on store shelves labeled “CERTIFIED BY THE PAKISTANI CHRISTIAN CHURCH”. Surely Pakistani Christians will be collecting on there fire insurance.

      We all must learn the distinction between permissible and advisable.

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        Well said this is how they are practicing jihad.If you look at those who accused in dealing in drugs in Srilanka majority are Muslims.When it comes to money teaching in Koran is forgotten completely.

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        I wonder how Pakistani’s would feel if products started appearing on store shelves labeled “CERTIFIED BY THE PAKISTANI CHRISTIAN CHURCH”.

        Whatever they ‘feel’, going around insulting, humiliating,calling them names, harassing their women, burning effigies are all uncalled for. These are actions which can create irrevocable dangers to the country.

        If a certain product carries a logo, one must educate himself about it. If, as you said – “CERTIFIED BY THE PAKISTANI CHRISTIAN CHURCH” – is printed on a box, as a consumer I’d want to know about it.
        If that kind of a church approval is ‘A MUST’ in order for the Christians to consume it so what? Let them have that print on the box. I too will buy the product WITH that label as long as there’s no un-halal ingredient/procedure gone into it.

        ‘HALAL’ doesn’t have ANYTHING included in it (either in the form of an ingredient or procedure) that makes it unlawful for the Buddhist to consume. Either be it in their religious perspective or their worldly perspective. In fact, if a product carries the ‘halal’ logo, it goes without saying that this product has gone through careful scrutiny and only the purest ingredients have gone into it, and it has gone through the purest stages while being manufactured.
        For those who assume that some sort of holy ash has been included in-order for it to be ‘HALAL’, then know that ISLAM is not a religion that deals with holy ashes or burnt sacrifices. We are not for burning. We don’t even burn our dead. Even burning an animal is not allowed for us.

        Back to the hypothesis about Pakistan: It may be a Muslim country, but it doesn’t make it lawful for them to carry out ‘MASS INSULT CAMPAIGNS’ against the minorities. Just because the minority carry a logo on grocery products?? Come on.

        I am a Sri Lankan burka clad Muslim. Yesterday I used to have great respect towards the Buddhist Monks. We had unity in our motherland. Today, I fear going out. I fear if a Budhist Monk looks at me. The peace of mind is gone. Sadness prevails over us all like a thick gray all consuming cloud. Doesn’t feel very good to be UNwanted in your motherland.
        May Allah have Mercy upon us.Aameen.

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          Surely you read the newspapers. A hundred christian homes are on fire due to a perceived insult to Islam. Is it a fair picture of all Pakistani’s? no! of course not. Yet in south Asia where religion is central to persons identity it is good idea not to be too provocative. Even the minority friendly, Muslim loving UNP says that they are happy that the Halal certification has been removed from products.

          The issue is not whether Halal includes anything. It is how the members of the majority religion of this land will view such a certification. Not all of them are enlightened as you are, just like in Pakistan, here too there are biggots. Why provoke them? Muslims of this country have been eating Halal food from the time Arab traders came here. Halal certification started in 2005. So just chill, this is not a long established tradition. Consumer products should be bereft of ANY RELIGIOUS certification.

          I am deeply saddened that you feel threatened and have lost your peace of mind. I know many of my Muslim friends feel as you do. As a christian however I would be the first protest if the church decided to start adding a logo’s to any consumer product available on store shelves. In this country or anywhere else.

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            The Pakistani example was purely hypothetical. My comment was based on a purely Islamic view,as in’what would the Prophet do if it happens’ kinda opinion.Not what Pakistan WILL do if such a situation arises.

            I got to agree with you on your comment.Live how the ‘bigots’ (someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats other people with hatred, contempt) want you to live.

            This is a crazy world.

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      Good reply. I think Mr,Karim would come forward to rebut the facts.

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      @Senguttuvan
      Those days are gone my dear , now the Muslims are practicing the religion according to its teachings.

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      Sometimes we come across individuals who value material benefits more than spiritual which they are expected to follow. I too know the individual whom you have named and also well aware that there was strong opposition within his own family on the type of money-making methods he was involved in. Did those wealth last long? He lost most of them even before his death before which he was in jail. Even his children did not have anything to enjoy from his wealth. There we also others like him. So do not generalise saying that the every Muslim is the same. There are those who commit offences unknowingly but correct themselves when they realise the good and bad.

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      Manchal Kaamalaikku kaanpazhellam Manchal!

      What is said is akin to saying that just because Mervin Silva is a thug all Sinhalese are thugs! Now that is profound!

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    I fully endorse the last paragraph. However hard insane power hungry individuals who band themselves together try, ties forged through the centuries can never be broken ever! I have friends and even relatives of different communities, different religions, castes and talents all originating in Sri Lanka, and nothing absolutely nothing can change the memories the happy times and my perceptions of them. So forget it, however hard these fascists individuals and groups try you can’t take away the friendships and relationships.

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      And just lie low when Muslims butcher all other religions as we can see. Don’t try to woo Christians they have eyes to see what is happening to them in the Muslim countries.

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        Banda, Please read about the ‘Holy Wars’ started in the Middle East by the European Christians in the 12th and 13th centuries, which is continuing to this day. This is how they established a Jewish State, Israel, in the middle of an Islamic Country.

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    It looks like Facism did not die along with demise of Hitler.The most interesting point and the saddest one is the re-birth of Facism in Theravada Buddhist countries like Myanmar,Cambodia,Vietnam and Sri Lanka.The Movement known as “SOCIALLY ENGAGED BUDDHISM” which began in the Facist Polpot Cambodia and Communist Vietnam by a few Enlightened Buddhist monks have brought sanity to the Cambodians and the Vietnamese. But unfortunately Myanmar is still under the jackboot of a Military Junta and Sri Lanka’s Gammanpila, Champika and the Military Junta working hand in hand with the Powers that govern the country are taking the country in the footsteps of Hitler and Polpot and the likes.It is time that the people of all Religions come forward to save Mother lanka from the Rabid Racists.

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    In all communities there are good and the bad poeple;we cant say all muslim are good;th be human is to err;but the srilankan muslims never ridicule;sneer;spit;abuse;hate the other communities;especially the buddhist;we always had respect and never want power in any matters thats a threeat to the sinhalese;for the muslims;Allah is great and our sole reason we are here is to worship Allah;and be humble ;please treat human as humans not as dogs

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    Superb Article.

    Who is Gammanpila? Who is he to advocate or advice or criticize the Muslim Community?

    The one criticizing the INDO LANKA agreement and Provincial Council system but, Still he is remaining as a PC remember.First of all ask him to resign from that.

    We as a Muslim every thing should be Halaal,not only food.

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    I agree that Muslims have to adapt to the times. They do not need a certificate to consume halaal, as they have done for centuries.

    Some Muslims also consume alcohol, engage in illegal activities (including drugs) and guilty of various criminal activities. The Muslim community, like others have their own black sheep, and they must acknowledge that fact. In short not all their flock practice a halaal way of life.

    Unfortynately, the BBS/JHU have a subterranean agenda and will now find another bone to pick! Be prepared for that.

    This anti-muslim drama is perhaps conducted under the umbrella of state patronage, and will continue as a diversion to the cost of living, Geneva, human rights, etc. etc

    This is a brilliant subterfuge for the MR regime which will only intervene at the most critical stage of the crisis, and then pose off as the ONLY saviours of the Muslims in SL.

    Vote for us for protection, otherwise you will get your comeuppance!

    We have to simply understand that this anti-muslim role-playing is just a small part in the great drama of perpetuating Rajapaksa dynastic rule.

    Once that paradigm is understood the roles of the bit players will become abundantly clear!

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      THERE IS NO ADAPTING TO TIMES IN ISLAM.
      WHAT WAS ISLAM AT THE BEGINNING WILL BE ISLAM TILL THE END OF THE WORLD.
      WE CANNOT CHANGE WITH TIMES AND WHY THE HECK DO OTHERS BOTHER ABOUT WHAT
      WE AT, HOW WE DRESS OR HOW WE PRAY.

      HERE IS WHAT ALLAH SAYS IN THE QURAN;

      Say, “O disbelievers, [1] I do not worship that which you worship, [2] nor do you worship the One whom I worship. [3] And neither I am going to worship that which you have worshipped, [4] nor will you worship the One whom I worship. [5] For you is your faith, and for me, my faith.” [6]

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        AYMAN, You are absolutely correct in what you say. That is why I have written above what Muhammad told Muslims to do and the results that followed.

        Islam is not just a religion but a political system as well. The state is intended to be inseparable from religious rule. Islamic law, or Sharia, is complete and not designed to coexist with or be subordinate to other legal systems. That is why Muslims cannot coexist peacefully with others in non-Muslim countries.

        The Quran is very clear that they are to resist unbelievers by any means until Islam establishes political supremacy. This doesn’t mean that everyone must be forced to become Muslim, but rather that everyone must submit to Muslim rule. This is the Muslim problem in Sri Lanka.

        Its not fair to highlight mild verse “… For you is your faith, and for me, my faith.” because asking Muslims to treat non-believers are very rear. Most verses are commands to non believers as human.

        Let me add few such verses in Quran as Muhammad said as Allah said not just to educate AYMAN but for all non-believers of Allah to know danger of Mulims like AYMAN who believe Quran is nothing but the word of Allah:
        5:3 “This day have I perfected your religion for you.”
        18:26 “[Allah] maketh none to share in his government.”
        4:141 “…And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way (to triumphs) over the believers.”
        YUSUFALI wrote in 009.029: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

        Bukhari (53:392)- While we were in the Mosque, the Prophet came out and said, “Let us go to the Jews.” We went out till we reached Bait-ul-Midras. He said to them, “If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. So, if anyone amongst you owns some property, he is permitted to sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle.”

        And here, Abdul Karim and Muslim commentators try to portray the face of egalitarians. What a joke.

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          Ayman will you please answer the note given by Nobel.He has very clearly described taking verses from Quran how Muslim religion lack religious tolerance and also how it advocate to punish the disbelievers.This is the very reason why the followers of other religions look at very suspiciously at Muslims.

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          Noble your bigotry and anti Islamic stance is obvious in all you write. You write about violence in Islam only. It seems you have a convenient lapse in memory, and the ability for honesty.

          How about the Crusades, where Muslims and Jews were slaughtered all in the name of God?

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

          If for one minute you are trying to sell the notion that there is violence only in Islam, I hope the commenters here would read Wikipedia on religious violence in other religions too throughout history. It is not noble of you to pick on one you hate and keep displaying your ignorance and hate.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_violence

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    History proves that Muslims comprising Arabs were domiciled in Sri Lanka for a very long time. Even the Name of the birthplace of the President and his brothers, means that it is the place, Hambantota, where the Muslims landed. Do the brothers know who named it and when it was so named? It must have been named so long ago that its origin is now lost in the Mists of Time. Why are these extremist fascists now trying to create dissension among the once peaceful multicultural, multiethnic, multilingual, multireligious population of Sri Lanka? Why is the Government seeming to countenance their activities?

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      If so how inland muslim’s mother tongue is TAMIL? It is revealed they were not coming from Arab but in SOUTH INDIA. It means they are Tamil people who believe Muslim religion.

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        Well next time you go to Galle, just drop into the Maritime Museum. You will learn a little more about the Muslims!

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          Did it show Arabs who came here are practicing TAMIL LANGUAGE?

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            the arabs started using tamil only after they got here… ever heard of something called “Arwi”?

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            W M

            There is a theory that Tamils were living in the south as the earliest settlers and there are place names which have their roots in Tamil.

            I am sure there is enough scholarly work on how Tamil became the language of choice of the Muslims and how gradually Arabs got absorbed into the coastal moors from India.

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      Wow, they might now even change the name Hambantota to something else to erase that identity and connection with Muslims who came in boats.

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        Then How will they ‘Help Hambantota’?

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          Why there is a fund call Helping Hambantota ! :)

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    I CARE “TUPPENCE” FOR THE VIEWS OF THE LIKES OF GAMMANPILLAR,OR CHAMPIKA
    WHO CAME TO THE LIMELIGHT GETTING INTO SRI LANKAS POLITICAL SCENE,
    SERVING AS “ABITHTHAYAS” FOR THE ATURELIYAS.

    WELL, LOTS OF MUSLIMS WERE IN THE GAMBLING BUSINESS.SO WHAT?

    THE “BOOKIE” SUMATHIPALA FAMILY ARE THE LEADING PERSONALITIES
    OF THE BUDDHIST CONGRESS TO THIS DAY.

    WHILE A SPORTS BODY DOES NOT ALLOW THOSE IN THE GAMING BUSINESS TO
    BE IN SPORTS CONTROLLING BODIES, THE “PIOUS BUDDHISTS” HAVE NO QUALMS ABOUT THEIR MONEY COMING INTO THEIR COFFERS TO PROMOTE BUDDHISM FROM
    THE LEADING BOOKIE FAMILY!!!

    THE RAJAPAKSES, WHO WANT TO BRING ABOUT A BUDDHIST RENAISSANCE
    BY DESTROYING OTHER RELIGIONS, GET THE BULK OF THEIR MONEY FROM
    EXCISE TAXES (ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO).CASINOS (WHICH ARE WHORE SHOPS TOO)
    LOTTERIES.AND EXPORT OF THEIR WOMEN TO THE “HALAL” COUNTRIES.

    THE HALAL ISSUE JUST EXPOSED THE BIGOTRY AND HYPOCRISY OF BUDDHISTS
    WHO CLAIM TO BE PEACEFUL AND TOLERANT.

    I WISH TO ADD, THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE SINHALA BUDDHIST ARE VERY DECENT PEOPLE, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO ENJOY THEIR KAVUNG,KOKIS AND
    OF COURSE BIBIKKAN.!!!! IN THE NEW YEAR DESPITE BBS/JHU BAN ON HALAL
    LOGO BEFORE THE NEW YEAR.

    “SUBHA ALUT AVURUDDAK SAHA ANAGATEYAK”

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      Ayman,There is a saying that “when God wants to destroy somebody, He makes them mad”. This is happening in SL.Before the end of this century, Buddhism will be dead in Sri Lanka. You can thank the Champikas, the Gamanpilas and the BBU idiots for this.The problem is that there is no person who can lead in the country with a balanced head.All those in politics are jokers.

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    Today the world is on its way for non-vegetarianism. Though the Greek philosophers such as Pluto, Pythagoras, etc and the ancient Hindu sages were promoting vegetarianism, people were also having non-vegetarian meals as the hunters were in the profession of hunting animals like deer for meal. But BBS would have been aware all of a sudden that Buddhism began as a reaction to the widespread animal slaughter that was being carried through perversion of religious rituals. Lord Buddha put an end to these practices by propounding his doctrine of non-violence known as Ahimsa.
    The issue is whether BBS could interfere with the religious practice of the Muslims. Since Islam is the second youngest religion there should have been some history pertaining to the labelling of Halal in meat products. After all, avoidance of meat has been a part of religious practice in nearly all faiths. Neverthless, if Halal meat is the practice according to the faith of the Muslims, why should we prevent it, so long as they have not harmed other religions. My question is why can’t the BBS engage itself in encouraging and promoting vegetarianism in order to defeat meat (whether it is halal or not) eating. This is also one method of restricting their marketing of halal products. Why can’t the BBS engage in propaganda that by eating meat, people are converting their stomach as the graveyards of innocent animals.
    However, I have my suspicion whether God encouraged man to live on vegetation or to kill animals that were created by him. Whether the product (chicken, beef or goat) is labelled as Halal or not, one just ponders how much of meat is been eaten by an individual. Assuming a person eats about ½ lb of meat for a day, which means he eats almost 180 lbs of meat for a year. In other words, an individual gradually swallows an animal weighing 180 lbs for a year to accommodate in his belly, like a python swallowing a goat or a calf or a deer. If God ask me ‘will you eat animals which I have created for man’s domestic purposes’, I will readily say ‘No, not only those animals are household friends, but also because I do not want to be a python in my next re-birth’. Moreover, I must say that Watalappam may be tasty, but egg is cholostrol. But Wattalappam cannot match the ‘curd with honey’ that is supplied at Hambantota in terms of hygienic food as well as in cooling the body. Over to the supporters of promoting meat (whether halal or not) eating.

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      The issue of meat consumption vs. Vegan has its own pros and cons applicable to both types of diets. People who survive on both types of food live perfectly normal and healthy lifestyles. In taking into account animals, Carnivorous or meat eating animals have prominent canine teeth and avoid plant based foods altogether. Whereas on the other side of thec spectrum, herbivorous animals eat only plant based diets and avoid meat eating completely. The human kind as God intended, is placed inbetween with teeth structed with both canine teeth for meat eating, and molar for mulching (grinding) ideally for chewing on plant based diets. It is perfectly normal for people to decide their own preferences, but wrong in influencing others, or should I say, preventing them from deciding for themselves.

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        Dear Marwan,
        If God has placed the human kind in between with teeth struck with both canine teeth for meat eating and molar for mulching, then why God wants human kind to show mercy on its speechless creatures. Just for a moment watch the eyes of the animals that have been lined in for slaughtering or taken to a slaughtering place, where tears are about to be shed (indicating to the six-sense man that I or we also have a right to live and will you help me to be freed) or the struggle they make when dragged – do you think that God had created man with six senses for him to have taste of flesh with the canine teeth. Is it a man-made law or divine-law. To what category has God created man. Just imagine for a second, how a person who is dragged or led in to a place for execution, feels trembled for his life. I am not supporting the BBS for this argument, but the BBS could have resort to such propagandas instead of violent methods against a specific religious community. The BBS could have maintained in its propaganda that since eating begin with hands and mouth, the anatomy of these bodily parts demonstrates that human teeth are designed for grinding and chewing. Humans lack the sharp canine teeth designed for tearing flesh that are characteristic of all carnivores. Meat-eating animals generally swallow their food without chewing it, so they require neither molars nor sideways-moving jaws. The human hand is better suited for to harvesting fruits and vegetables than to killing prey. Further, the BBS could resort to propaganda that avoiding meat eating would lead to a long span of healthy and peaceful life which is accepted by medical science. May I remind the statement of scientist Albert Einstein who said ‘Nothin will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet’.

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          Your have missed the point. Specific animals were meant as food for humankind. The sensation of fear and compassion is not an attribute associated with animals. It is only found in humankind who project that empathy on the animal taken to be slaughtered. This is easily visible in cats whith a litter will eat one of its own as a meal soon after birth, lions kill its own for purpose of engaging a prospective partner to sire its brood, snakes also commit infanticide just to name a few. In the case of man, he raises his own livestock with tender loving care, and will selectively slaughter when it becomes necessary for food, or will sell it to the slaughter house to earn an income. What I am trying to say is that all are not bestowed with equal feelings, but were meant for the stronger to survive on the weaker. It happens within the animal kingdom itself all the time. The strongest on top of the food chain survives by killing the weaker for food. But man was given the sense of judgement to decide when is the right age and time for slaughter, not to kill in vain for sport, whereas animals are designed to kill purely by instinct.

          It is a divine law for Muslims as it is stated in Holy Quran: 5:3. ‘Forbidden to you (for food) are carrion and blood and swine flesh, and that which has been dedicated to any other than Allah, and the strangled, and the dead through beating, and the dead through falling from a height, and that which has been killed by (the goring of) horns, and the devoured of wild beasts, and that which has been immolated to idols, except that which you make lawful (by the death stroke)’. The original text is in Arabic, and this is rough translation of this Divine Law.

          Sixth sense is not used by man. Man is inherently born with it but never uses it until he loses any one of the other 5 senses, at which time he trains himself to use the sixth sense to compensate that loss. Basic 5 senses being sight, sound, smell, taste and touch.

          Humans have canine teeth which is much smaller than animal canine and are used for tearing up meat from bones. Ask any dentist to identify it, if unsure.

          Good old Albert Einstein is a nobody for Muslims, as he too was a creation of God, and what he spoke was of his own free will. But what I say is from our own Gospel The Holy Quran (a miracle of miracles) as revealed to all of humanity by God Himself. Just read it to verify the truth.

          Leave BBS chaps out of this, as they (in theory) are not supposed to eat meat, – and they do it and talk of it, not supposed to marry and have children – and they talk about increasing child birth production, not supposed to look at women with lust – and they are trying to remove the Niqab of Muslim women, not handle money, or have anything to do with financial issues – and are against Islamic Banking. They are there for all the wrong reasons.

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            Dear Marwan, I read your version. But how do you justify the conflict created by the contents in Quran 5.3 with other contexts of other religions. I think this is what is running in the minds of the Buddhist extremists, though I am not in favour of violence. Anyway I also have to give my version on behalf of the Hindus and Buddhists and today a great number of Westerners have accepted the real fact. Even a considerable number of Hollywood celebrities and others including philosophers and scientists, shown great interests in practising non-vegetarianism. During the Vedic period, that is about 4,000 to 5,000 years prior to the existence of Islam, cattle were considered as the centre of livelihood and sustenance of farming family. The beauty of the cow is that it gives its calf milk and then reserves some for its master or mistress who looked after her. At the same time, the bull helps the man to till and plough the land to grow paddy and other food grains in producing agricultural products. It can be properly called that the cow could be considered as the mother and the bull as the father as they are of great assistance to a human society. It will be a great crime to kill such divine animals and convert human body to be a living graveyard for them. Thus God has send a message that human society should learn to live in harmony with the cow and bull instead of killing the spirit of life, because it is God who has the right to take the life any being which he has created. People should also not forget that even animals are souls and all souls finally end ups in union with God according to the doctrine of Karma. The Buddhist extremists are also of the same view and have declared Poya days.
            According to Nature’s Law ‘One living entity becomes the food for another living entity’. This argument is fit for wild beings with ferocious character. But God has created some animals with gentle character also for them to live with man. In this respect Cattle and goats falls within this purview. Of this, Cow stands as a symbol of sacred animal for various reasons.
            When God creates beings with flesh and blood in the Universe, God never expects a man to take blood and flesh of another being into his physical body. The body of a man is not a graveyard for innocent murdered beasts. It is the earth that absorbs the physical body of every being, whether it is buried or cremated. There are arguments that milk is a product of the blood. There is a difference between the milk and blood. Blood always keeps the alive the being. The moment a being is dead the blood gets dried. But the milk is a product formed by natural process with more vitamin values. The difference is milk is produced without violence, but blood is obtained with violence by cutting it. It is at this juncture one should think that just because a mother breast fed a child to develop its nourishment for its growth, does it mean that just because the child is lacking protein and vitamin, its mother should be cut and chopped into pieces to make a food out of it. It is not that Hinduism and Buddhism, but also Zoroastrianism and Egyptians associated the cow with Goddess Isis and would not sacrifice it. Against such a background how do you justify your argument. I am not criticizing any religion, as there should be some background for its assertion.

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          @Citizen, you can google search ‘What is Quranic verse 5:3’ and select the first result shown to verify the truth of what I stated.

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      Fine if the Muslims want halal.However they should not force this Halal on the Sinhala , tamil , burgher communities . That is the issue here.

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        if the countries like the middle east wants this certification for exports from SL that too should be allowed . what is the problem with that ?

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          BBS AND GAMMN-PILLAR ARE TALKING BLOODY BULL SHIT.
          TO READ ABOUT THE PROPHET AND SPREAD OF ISLAM JUST READ THE AUTHENTIC HISTORY BOOKS.

          PLEASE NOTE THE MEANING OF JIHAD- IS STRIVING.

          WAR IS -HARB. AND THERE IS NOTHING HOLY IN ANY WAR.

          PLEASE DO NOT USE ARABIC WORDS, WITHOUT KNOWING THE MEANING.

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          SAROJINI,
          YOU CANT EAT THE CAKE AND HAVE IT.

          YOU DO NOT WANT THE HALAL LABEL IN S.L.BUT YOU DO NOT MIND IT BEING USED FOR EXPORTS. WHY? YOUR EXPORTS WILL DROP.

          THERE IS HALAL CERTIFICATION FOR EVERYTHING OR NOTHING!!!
          THATS IT.

          THOSE PRODUCTS CERTIFIED AS HALAL ONLY FOR EXPORTS SHOULD BE
          NOT BOUGHT BY MUSLIMS.

          SOON THE BLOODY BULL SHITTERS WILL REALIZE THAT THEY HAVE
          TRAMPLED THEIR TAIL.

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          Sarojini,

          Do you see the irony of all this? Halal is fine as long as Non-Muslims can make money out of Muslims. but the very Muslims who need it most must not have it.

          In a free market economy no one forces anyone. So if companies chose to be certified you should take it up with the companies, not with Muslims.

          If they see a risk of loss of business, they will give up Halal without being “forced to do do so” religious zealots!

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        fine if the sinhalese want to make sinhala the national language, but they should not force it on the Tamil and burgher communities…

        oh wait…

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          KPPPPPPPPPPppp

          Well Said ! :)

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    All my Sinhalese friends were shocked at the way BBS Gen. Sec. admonished the police using filth. There seems to be the notion that ‘aggression is best form of defence’ attitude to portray supremancy over all accepted norms and levels of decency.

    What this writer implies is correct going by what these narrow minded, ill mannered and highly vindictive politicians have said. These JHU party stalwardts (Champika and Gammanpilla) seek to cling on to BBS tail to ride into prominence by causing destruction to peaceful co-existence of Muslims and Sinhalese to their own political vantage.

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    ‘When you give in charity give it with your right hands, and make sure that your left hand doesn’t know about it’ – Prophet Muhammad

    ‘Those who publicly reveal what they had given others in charity … God will not look upon them in the Next World’ – Prophet Muhammad

    BARK LIKE A MAD DOG!
    The Zionist policy in international politics is to Bark like A Mad Dog! They do not talk. Dogs don’t talk. They only bark no matter what you say. But people sit down and talk. When talking everyone tries to understand each other and respond in an appropriate manner.

    Many decent people have already talked to BBS and its sick supporters. But they are not there for a talk. They are barking.

    Now it is time, that we stop talking and barking in return! That is the language dogs understand.

    This is how you bark: BBS is against peace in this country. Do not listen to any explanation they try to give. Just keep barking: BBS is against peace in this country! They are destroying the Buddhist nature of this country by not doing anything about the 5 a day rape of women in this country. They, by their inaction, have allowed Sri Lanka to become one of the top 4 boozers in the world!

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    The author seems to have a problem with the BJP. By frequently bringing it into the discourse here he is not only making broad generalisations, he is also hurting his cause amongst fair minded people. The issue at present is purely a local one instigated by fascist groups. The unspoken muslim solidarity expressed by the author will only serve to inflame counter-chauvinistic attitudes.

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    Last year the Jamiathul Ulema helped the Sri Lankan government in Geneva by lobbying/influencing the Muslim countries to vote in favor of Sri Lanka because we SL Muslims are patriotic to our country. Let us see how this bogus patriots, the BBS and JHU are going to help the government this time.

    We Muslims are patiently tolerating all these anti-Muslim campaign against us because we love our country. We know what happened to Sri Lanka due to the Black July in ’83. Already one Black July took our country backwards by several decades and is still haunting us in the name of Diaspora. As patriots of this country we Muslims do not want another black July because that will be the end of Sri Lanka. Another black July and our country will get erased from the world map for ever.

    After losing the GSP+ the garment export has declined and the main foreign exchange for Sri Lanka today is from the Arab/Muslim countries. These bogus patriots, the BBS and JHU are trying to stop that as well with their short sighted acts.

    As somebody mentioned, Halal certification is not a big issue for us Muslims because we know how to choose our food even without the Halal label but if anybody tries to interfere with our Muslim sisters and their way of dressing we will NOT spare. There is a limit for us to tolerate. Please do not test our patience. We will definitely retaliate if anyone interferes with our women. If that happens, another Black July is inevitable and we are ready for that.

    If these bogus patriots JHU, BBS and its sponsor (defense secretary or whoever it may be) want to attack our Muslim customs by interfering with the Muslim ladies dress code, we will NOT tolerate anymore. If completely destroying the country is the objective of these people, we cannot help but we are also ready to face it.

    REMEMBER, we can tolerate Anti-Halal but we will NEVER EVER tolerate if they try to interfere with our Islamic customs and our women’s dress code.

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      I agree with you on this issue. Purely and simply, this will be their downfall. As there is no authority like ACJU (in the case of the Halal issue) to negotiate with in regard to the dress code for women. It is the individuals choice to keep with God’s command, ‘cover your beauty in the presence of strangers’. If anyone lays their hands on our Muslim women wearing the Hijab and/or Niqab, or even the Abaya for that matter, will be dealt with instantly. They can call names as ‘goni billas’ or cat calls, posters, banners whatever, will be tolerated. But any sort of physical contact with intent to denigrate or harm them will be swiftly dealt with in appropriate manner. If the government puts laws to ban such garments, there will be civil disobedience. If there is breakdown in law and order, then it will come down to a free for all. As this will leave little room for talking decently around a table with those that are hell bent on anarchism.

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        So how do you all propose to fight agianst the Sinhalese / BBS ?

        Let’s talk some strategy here.

        Take on the 400000 strong battle hardened Sri Lankan army, STF etc in the Southern and the Central provinces and the tough pro-government ex-LTTE miltias led by Karuna and Devavnanda who will be more than pleased to exterminate the muslims in the East and the North , supported by a civilian base which outnumbers muslims 9 to 1.

        Sure. sure. I am sure the Muslims are prepared for that. Most muslims in Sri lanka are not INSANE like the computer heroes we find here

        Even the Pakistani or Saudi army will think twice before getting into such a quagmire.

        Suicide attacks ?? The LTTE already tried that.

        Please talk some sense. Dont let your emotions get in the way

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          Maame,

          We are already the pariah state for our appalling lack of sensitivity, boorishness and the breakdown of law and order. So it looks like there are many who are egging on the BBS/JHU! Do we detect tacit agreement from the free thinker as well?

          Thank you for being very condescending. We need it badly! With that said let’s assume that Mera Bala Sena try to carry out their threat.

          I want to see the day men try to undress a woman in civilized society! I guess the all of us will grin, the Sinhalese happy at the heroics of their menfolk and the Muslims as they are expected to grin and bear according to you.

          And as you expect the outside world will grin at us too, without coming to our rescue as they have learnt that we are loath to take a hint. Don’t we have a great culture of 2500 years

          We would be laughing out so loud at the rest of the world,we would not hear the rest of the world making us the laughing stock of the world!

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            Nabil my sweet nephew

            Tacit agreement for attacks on Muslims ?? Are you crazy. I am the last person to encourage that. Have seen too much life to think along those lines

            Violence by any side is NOT going to solve anything. That’s what I am trying to say. If the Muslims are patient, the solution will come from within the Sri Lankan society itself.

            Saw those Monks sitting with the ACJU at Halal conference & criticizing the BBS ? That’s what Muslims should be working on. Not making idle threats.

            If there is violence Sri Lanka may go back a few years but Muslims will be hurt beyond recovery ( like the Tamil society after 2009 ). Did anyone help the Muslims in Myanmar ??

            There is a glimmer of hope already !! Today Minister Mervyn Silva has openly said he will PUNISH any monks who threaten minorities :)

            But here is the elephant in the room . What Proportion of the blame do Muslims ( if not Sri lankan Muslims then Muslims worldwide ) bear in this whole controversy ? Are they totally innocent ??

            Muslims keep on blaming everything on everyone else but they have to sooner or later admit that there is some reason why there is ISLAMOPHOBIA around the world starting from USA, EUROPE, RUSSIA (Chechnya), THE BALKANS ( kosvo) ISRAEL, INDIA (partition, Gujarat riots ), BURMA, THAILAND, PHILIPPINES, AFRICA ( Nigeria, Mali Somalia ) etc etc.

            How long can muslims keep on blaming a US/ISRAEL backed western conspiracy for what has been going on for over a thousand years ?? This is what bothers me. When are U guys gonna sit up and go ” Is it something we are doing ??”

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              Totally agreed American Mama. As usual Muslims keep on blaming a US/ISRAEL backed western conspiracy, but they don’t realize that they are ruining/destroying themselves. I have heard enough tales from Muslims from Afganistan, Iran, Egypt, Pakistan, etc., as to how they were treated cruelly and they have told there is peace in Western countries. Buddhist monks will shout first, but it will just vanish in the course of time.

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              How touching you stand up for US/Israel. It is not as if Sri Lankans are unaware of the devious manipulations of Israel. Israel who called Sri Lankans “monkeys” and we should be fed nuts, Israel that trained the Sri Lankan troops, while yards away trained the LTTE, Israel who now offers to train hundred of Sri Lankans in how to do agriculture in barren, stolen, lands, totally unsuitable for Sri Lanka, which makes us suspicious why the selection of these trainees are not through mainstream selection process. It would be interesting to see if ALL the trainees are Sinhalese only. Israel have over 200 UN resolutions against it, for good reasons. Israel has used fake passports to enter sovereign nations and murder scientists, and activists. Israel has betrayed their only ally the US, and despite the US giving it the MOST aid, has spied on its dear ally, and now begs for his (Jonathan Pollard’s) release, sold US weapons to China against their knowledge, bombed the USS Liberty, and pretended it was a mistake. It has held the Palestinians in open prisons, depriving them of basic needs like pens, paper, jam, and even medicines, burned mosques, demolishes their homes, steals their land, controls their water, restricted their fishing, shoots at Palestinian fishermen, precision bombs civilian homes, and even cunning enough to give the Palestinians enough of food in calories to fool the international bodies that monitor their health. We also saw little children being killed in Gaza by Israel’s mighty weapons. I could go on, and ever single thing I have mentioned here can be googled and checked out.

              So don’t come to sell Israel has this innocent nation and try to convince us it is incapable of devious machinations. There are reasons why Israel is one of the MOST disliked in the world, and it would serve Sri Lanka well to NOT have Israel and its apologists interfere in our internal matters.
              Do stop the propaganda and leave us alone.

              BBC poll:

              BBC poll surveying 27 countries shows that Israel is viewed as having a negative influence in the world; negative opinions in U.S. and U.K. increased over past year.

              A poll conducted by the BBC revealed Tuesday that Israel is one of the most negatively viewed countries in the world, ranking at the bottom of the chart along with Iran, North Korea and Pakistan.

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              “How long can muslims keep on blaming a US/ISRAEL backed western conspiracy for what has been going on for over a thousand years ??”

              Israel does a wonderful job of blaming it’s neighbors for all it’s ills, while stealing lands from them.
              It’s apologists have ad nauseam blamed the Palestinians, Lebananese, Syrians, and plays the victim card, while it has used white phosphorous and cluster bombs on unarmed civilians.
              Perhaps Muslims are learning from the Master of the victim card.

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          American Maama,

          A domestic language problem (due to Sinhala Only) got converted into an ethnic problem and finally a call for a separate state (Vattukoddai resolution) creating a ruthless monster making the Sri Lankans to suffer for 30 long years and taking the country backwards by several decades. Remember, we were one of the best in Asia when the British gave the country back to us and today we are one of the worst in Asia. Do not think that 2009 is the end of our suffering. Today the Diaspora that was created globally due to our domestic language problem (the consequences) seems to be even worse than the ruthless monster that haunted us for 30 long years. Today, it has turned into an International problem involving the West, UN and India and it is still continuing to haunt us. Our wounds due to this domestic language problem is still not cured, and salt is being rubbed on it internationally on a daily basis.

          By creating another domestic religious problem, do you think our country can bear it? You being a slave in the West for several decades may not feel the suffering that we have undergone physically and mentally during the past and even now in the present. Do you think the Muslims or anybody for that matter will try some method of retaliation that has already failed in Sri Lanka (JVP & LTTE)? There are several other methods. Today, the Sri Lankan economy purely depends on the Arab/Muslim countries. If they boycott our products and stop issuing work visa and restrict oil/gas exports, do you think our country can survive? The Tamils have taken their language problem to the West, UN and India and we can clearly feel the international pressure exerted on us. If the Muslims also take their religious problem to all the Muslim countries what will happen to us? We will be completely isolated and taken back to stone age and finally our country will be divided into two and sold to China and India.

          We are not western slaves like you, we love our country and we do not want these short sighted racists/fanatics to destroy it.

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            Did U even bother to read what I said ??

            Here’s what I said above

            “… Violence by any side is NOT going to solve anything. That’s what I am trying to say. If the Muslims are patient, the solution will come from within the Sri Lankan society itself….”

            How does that encourage a domestic religious problem ??

            Go home and get some sleep & don’t forget your pill.

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            I don’t agree with your version that Sri lankan economy is totally dependent on the Middle Eastern Islamic nations. That’s just imagination running riot.

            Foreign employment is already shifting towards other markets like Singapore, Korea, Taiwan etc.. The ri lankan per capita income is already high ( middle income ) and we can stand that kind of pressure. The best evidence for this – the government would have already shut the BBS up if it was worried about ME countries reacting.

            Even otherwise Sri lankans would prefer to maintain their self-respect as opposed to being cowed down by economic threats & do what some worthless outsiders tell you to do.

            Even the poor Burmese didn’t listen to the requests by the OIC ( Organization of Islamic Countries ) to open an office in Myanmar so that they could help the Rohingya muslims who were getting massacred. Turkey’s PM & his wife and Iranian envoys had to personally cart aid to the Muslims who were trapped in internment camps there. No Islamic nations came to help the Rohyngias who have essentially become boat people

            So I am not sure whether these ME Islamic nations have that kind of clout.

            If Myanmar can manage Sri Lanka can certainly do so too

            As for UNHRC the USA is just bluffing . The resolution is worthless and will have no effect. So we don’t really need Islamic votes. It is just a formality

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          American Mama

          I am lost please help me.

          You say:

          “the tough pro-government ex-LTTE miltias led by Karuna and Devavnanda who will be more than pleased to exterminate the muslims in the East and the North ,”

          We know Karuna has inherent hatred for Muslims. When did Douglas become a Muslim hater and killer? This is news to me. Therefore onus is on you to site evidence.

          You say:

          “So how do you all propose to fight agianst the Sinhalese / BBS ?”
          Take on the 400000 strong battle hardened Sri Lankan army, STF etc in the Southern and the Central provinces”

          Simple, beg, borrow or steal just one Mirage 2000 (some 20 years old) from Indian Air Force, fly it over the island, within seconds all 400,000 will run for cover and hide behind their women folks or behind ex LTTE cadres.

          Please talk some sense. Dont let your emotions get in the way and get your reality checked periodically.

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            Oh NO ! It’s that annoying Vedda again !! :)

            1) I don’t know what Karuna and Devananda are thinking ( what I meant was, not them personally, but the militiamen who work for them might be pleased to whack the Muslims)
            I know that there is NO LOVE LOST between ex-LTTE militiamen and the Muslims. Besides these militias are pro-government and will probably be glad to oblige in case Muslims decide to create problems for the government.

            2)Here is a reality check for U and Ur elders in Bintanne.

            Mahinda mama had a bunch of Mig 27 jets. Did bombing using one of them win him the war ? That would have been so easy. If as U say one Mirage can rout 400000 troops, why couldn’t some 30 Migs, Kfirs etc rout 30000 LTTE troops??

            Let me tell U what the American think about that. “Aerial warfare never won a battle” is what they say. It is always a ground invasion that finishes a war.

            That’s where jungle & urban warfare with 400000 battle hardened fanatic Sinhala troops ( punch drunk on sinhala buddhist nationalism after 2009) & ex-LTTE militias come into play. Only a country like USA, RUSSIA CHINA or INDIA can sustain that kind of warfare.

            @ Marawan
            About the Taleban, the USA did defeat them and chase them away after 9/11. They ran to the mountains. The USA is using only it’s PINKY TOE to fight the Taleban. If the US dropped a few
            1 megaton tactical nukes on those north west frontier towns the Taleban would go up in SMOKE.

            The Japanese were much more ruthless and skilled fighters than the Taleban and the japanese kept boasting that it was better to die than surrender but after 2 nukes they had had enough and were singing the “surrender blues.”

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          So you expext the Muslims to relax and watch while the miscreants have a go at their Muslim women who wear the garb. When it becomes a question is, by which law we Muslims abide, God’s Law or man made law, Muslims will opt for the former. We Muslims have been taught by Divine Law not to shirk our responsibilities, nor runaway when confronted with matters of defending the Faith, but to stand up and put up a fight. If we are to die in the process, we gain martyrdom. This is why the might of America cannot put down the battle hardened Taliban forces. They withdraw under pressure, regroup and attack with ferocity using flimsy weapons, but still keep the fight going to the enemy. As of now America soldiers are never in the battle theatre, cowards fighting through remote controlled UAV (unmanned airborne Vehicles) equipped with cameras and lazer guided weapons, bombing and killing innocent men, women and children and calling it collateral damage. What I am trying to define is Muslim mindset in time of crisis. Islamic history has shown that battles have been fought and won by Muslims with 300 untrained soldiers against 1000 strong well armed and well trained soldiers. Its not the numbers that count, but the commitment. It is only then that God’s help will come. Not through complacency nor fear.

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            I don’t know. Up to you. If you wanna fight please go ahead.

            Muslims have tried FIGHTING to solve problems all along and are trying that even as we speak.

            As for how positive the results of that are for Muslims in Afghanistan, Myanmar, Palestine etc.. I am not so sure. If you wanna add Sri Lanka to that long list it is perfectly alright with me.

            Please don’t let your imagination run riot about Muslim women getting molested. Wait until it really happens before talking about it. ( Maybe a isolated incident or two happened …but it is not endemic ).

            Can it happen Maybe. If you introduce a full black dress from head to toe some riffraff elements may poke fun or harrass these girls. Even a mini skirt can elicit a negative reaction from some fool at some point.

            But if U wanna start a war over that, instead of looking at it from a balanced view…now, that is totally up to you guys..

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            The History of Brave Muslims warriors is a bit hyped up in my view.

            Here is a summary

            In 762AD Charles Martel ( aka “Charles the Hammer ” ) defeated and annihilated the Arab army of Sultan Abd el Rahman at the battle of Poitiers ( No drones or jets then ) ending Islamic incursions into France.

            IN Romania Count Vlad Dracule fought of Ottoman armies and impaled thousands of Muslim warriors earning the name VLAD THE IMPALER ( later immortalized by Brahm Stoker as Dracula )

            Duke Ferdinand of Aragon and Duchess Isabella of Castille defeated Abu Abdel of Granada ending the Islamic rule in Spain

            The Mongol armies of Genghis Khan sacked Baghdad and killed all muslims there bringing about the end of the caliphate. Muslims poets have composed described this as the worst disaster to befall islam

            In India Marathas under Sivaji Bhonsle gave such resistance to Moghul emperor Aurangzeb, that it weakened Moghul rule and brought about the rule of British and the Maratha empire.

            This is in addition to recent defeats at the hands of Israel, India ( bangladesh war ), USA ( Iraq) and most recently France (MAli)

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              Maa’me

              your view is crap! You have cherry picked from history.

              Muslim history is 1400 years old. Muslim empires spanned across 3 continents. Despite many set backs in the last one hundred years or so, muslims are fighting relentlessly. That shows how brave they are! Such persistence has only one results – victory.

              In any case, the way to solve deal with bigots like you is not to engage in physical war. It is just to appeal to the reasonable people in this country. Simple!

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              Dear American Mama,
              You can add some more. Islam is a religion that came with violence. Any religion that relies on violence will finally wiped out with violence. Now in India is just tolerating. If the BJP comes to power, the drama can be seen.
              Similarly, Western countries are also tolerant, because they cherish civil liberties. At the same time Muslims are living happily in Western countries and they are been lokked after well. Just for a moment, watch what is happening in Pakistan, Egypt, Afganistan, Iraq, Palestine, Bangaladesh, etc – daily a great number of civilians are unnecessarily getting killed due to bomb explosion. It is time for Muslims to adapt themselves to changing conditions. Even in Sri Lanka, the manner in which the Muslims are engaged in illegal activities, there is a likelihood of a massive attack by the Armed Forces. If they are to establish their innocence, I think they have to unequivocally declare that they are not supporting activities of Taliban from the aforementioned countries. Democracy and an international economic order has to be restored at any cost in the best interests of every citizens (including the Muslims) in the world. After all, God one for all, only thing every religious community call it by different names. One cannot engage or carry out the barbaric actions in the name of God.

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          AMERICAN MAMA,

          JUST LEAVE THE MUSLIMS ALONE.

          WE WILL SHOW YOU HOW WE WILL CROSS THE BRIDGE, WHEN WE GET THERE.

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      I remember once a good buddhist priest appreciated the decent dress code of most of the muslim females in our country. I think a dress code is a personal choice of anyone, which no group, govt. or any individual should oppose, if it is decent and doesn’t interfere with others freedom. We all can see how decently buddhist and christian lady nuns are attired and respected in public.

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    The Muslims are blessed with the greatest weapon known to mankind. Diplomacy within the Islamic Belief. We should not bother with a few loose cannons lying around. Unity of all Muslims is the call of the day.

    A little girl was playing with an inflated balloon when it struck something sharp and suddenly deflated. The little girl began crying and said, “Daddy, there’s nothing left to it.”

    Structurally, nothing was changed about the balloon except that it now had a hole in the wrong place. Its function and shape were resting upon the toughness of a thin membrane to protect it from sharp objects.

    People without a source of inner strength built from Islamic beliefs are very much like the little girl’s balloon. These individuals are inflated by false values, false goals, and false ideas. They too will collapse from a sharp blow to their protective shell, when there is nothing inside.

    When a person’s security or confidence is based upon their exterior world, they will ultimately find themselves in real trouble because they have a false security, a false self-confidence. If you peel away their material possessions or their position, there is nothing left of them.

    We should develop centres of strength within ourselves which will enable us to stand despite whatever confusion or bewilderment may be taking place around us.

    “And the slaves of the Most Gracious (Allah) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness and when the foolish address them, they reply back with words of peace.” [The Noble Quran Surah al-Furqan 25:63]

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      thanks Hussain, those who read this comment should draw inspiration from it, a good balloon story.

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        The message is; first unite as one ummah. False ideologies will eventually perish. Learn, practice and teach the message of Islam and create centres of Influence around the world. Identify the undesirable elements. Be vigilant and be prepared.

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    I am not a racist. I love and like all the God’s creations. I want to ask Mr. Gammanpila, Mr. Ranawaka, JHU and BBS, what they going to gain by creating issues and controversies like these? I have no reservation and dought that they and these issues going to destroy Sinhalese, the Sinhalese Buddhists and the country at large for its going to disturb the peace, friendship and amity among all the communities in the country which existed for centuries. Show mercy to all and God will show mercy to you. Please if you are going to protect the Sinhalese and the Buddhists in this way, all of you are not Buddhists as you are not a follower of Lord Buddha for you have forgotten his noble teaching of love, peace and mercy toward every thing in this world.

    Take the modern history of the world, Gandhi did not despise the British when he was badly treated by them. They kept in jail. They invited him to London for talk to restore order in India when his non-violent struggle was creating such a headache for them. When The King invited him to the Buckingham Palace, Churchill asked in the parliament, who let that half naked fakir in side the palace. Gandhi didn’t mind all these but kept his cool and got the independent for his people.

    Martin Luther King was such good human being in spite of all the ill-treatment of him by the whites when his non-violent movement was carried forward against the Segregation in the USA.His struggle produced a black as the President of USA, the richest and mightiest country in the world.When President Obama took oath the first time, I watched in the TV, the tears were pouring down from the eyes of Rev. Jessie Jackson for he never expected a black-man to become a President of the USA in his life time.

    Abraham Lincoln was such fine human being when he was ill-treated by his own people when he made the struggle to abolish slavery in America. He never took revenge on those treated him badly.

    Nelson Mandela was kept in the solitary confinement in jail house in the middle of the sea for 29 years. When apartheid was abolished, he didn’t settle the score with them but made them his friends. All the whites who left South Africa to the west are going to their country as things are much better there now.

    So please learnt from these noble human beings for they struggled against evils and they showed mercy to the kind who made things such pain and unbearable for them. They never ever let go the love of human being and the mercy for them.

    Please do not let our country burn again for what the people and the country suffered all this while was enough for us.We do not want any more problems to make life bad for all us.It is the only country for us and all our generations to come until we die irrespective of our colour, creed, religion and language. We are all the children of Mother Lanka. Let’s forget all our differences and make it a wonderful place for all of us to live by taking the good of every one of us.

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      You forget what is at your door-step – An American Citizen by the name
      G O T A. Put him in a place so that we may live happily ever after!

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    It is very unfortunate that this debate has descended to unprecedendedly low levels.The fact that this has not been nipped in the bud is reflection that the government is encouraging it. It will get worse when it comes to the issue of how Muslim women should dress in public.In the West Muslim women who migrated from places like Turkey Iran and African countries who never covered their faces or parts of their bodies are increasingly reacting by adopting the the most conservative form of dress just to react against anti Muslim rhetoric. Time will very soon come when Sri Lanka will become a hotbed of unredeeemable racist dissension.
    Bensen

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    Barney,

    One of my oldest friends is a Muslim from a distinguished family. We continue our friendship from age 9. The relationship is more than a mere friendship. Some of my close Club-buddies are Muslims – and we
    have kept the connection for many decades.

    There are the good and bad in all communities. My ire, as you notice, is on the wayward within who go off-limits. It is extremism, fed by religio-politics, in different forms, that has divided and consumed the Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims. We have to learn a lesson from our Burgher friends who are, in many ways, free from the compulsions of both evils. Is Christianity and its tolerant and accommodating ways one reason? How we miss the Burgher community in the numbers and the useful roles they played until politics enabled their exit in the 1950s. I went all the way from Colombo to Sydney to visit a friend for her birthday a few years ago – my first visit down-under although it is completely out of my usual business-centred overseas visits.

    The answer, methinks, is in the shrinking National Cake. When, or will we at all find, that Deliverer who will make for all of us a bigger cake so that we can have our different fills without hurting each other.

    Senguttuvan

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      it is interesting what you say about christianity. I know of no other religion practiced in SL, especially Colombo, where Sinhala speakers and Tamil speakers sit side by side and worship god. I suppose it is because the service is in English.

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    Noble – … a Pakistan – or worse, a Maldives, which had many Sinhalese and others living there till the 1950s. It is not 100%
    Muslim today but even one seen with a Bible, it is reported, courts
    a long prison sentence. I am told the Bible is banned there. What have my Muslim friends who are after our blood in these pages and elsewhere
    have to say about their insistence “Islam does not prevent the practise of other religions in their countries. Religious Freedom and tolerance is observed” ???? My comments are not to spread anti-Islamism but to point out the hollowness of their false claims.

    Senguttuvan

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      Senguttuvan,

      You are spreading in public what you have been told Pakistan and Maldives do to those of Christian faith. You should do your own research before you say things which have serious ramifications for people in Lanka. But you are only happy to repeat any nonsense that you hear as long as it serves your purpose of doing the ground work for the future pogrom of Muslims.

      Secondly, what the so called Muslim countries do is not necessarily Islamic. Most muslim countries are ruled by despots with the support of secular western powers. Most of the kill MUSLIMS in order to ensure their survival.

      Look at what the islamic text says about how non-muslims should be treated. Or at least, pick up a decent history book! Muslims ruled India for over 6 centuries, yet Hindus are the majority. Muslims ruled Spain for over 7 centuries, yet it is the Muslims who were massacred.

      But the wicked ones will not be enlightened. When you say that Muslims are after your blood, how wicked you are is evident!

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      Snenguutvan.

      And look at Iraq, Egypt etc. These countries have been under Islamic law for over 14 centuries. If muslims were intolerant as you argue, how come there are still Christians in those countries? Muslims could have easily annihilated them if they had wanted to.

      you are so bigoted. Only the bigoted will fail to see the BBS ground work for future muslim pogrom, but instead add credibility to the BBS claim by criticising the victims, Muslims.

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        lionel,
        To learn how Christians survived in Egypt just read what Coptic did when negotiating with Morsey for a new constitution.

        Also read this Hadith. Muslim (19:4294) – “When you meet your enemies who are polytheists (Christians), invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them … If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them”. Do you understand?

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          Ignoble,

          The ignoble will be never be blessed with knowledge and wisdom. Because the ignoble are preoccupied with slinging mud, not searching for the truth.They feed on junk.

          Yes, the Copts in Egypt are having problems NOW. But they did NOT have any problem for over 14 centuries when Islam was the dominant ruling power.

          How do you interpret that,you ignoble?

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        Well said Lionel. May I add despite the picking on Iran by a country that has not joined the NPT and is supposed to have nuclear weapons themselves, Iran has it’s share of a minority Jewish community, that turned down offers of thousands of dollars by Israel, to remain in Iran. It must be a sore point for Israel that they cannot use these Iranian Jews in their propaganda against Iran.

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      MALDIVES IS 100PER CENT MUSLIM.

      THE PEOPLE OF OTHER FAITHS, ARE THERE FOR THE MONEY.

      NO ONE IS FORCING THEM. IF THEY WANT TO HAVE STATUES ETC., THEY CAN HAVE IT HERE OR THEIR HOME COUNTRY AND BE BEGGARS.

      TODAY THE RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD IS QATAR- NOT AMERICA OR BRITAIN NO LONGER GREAT, OR GERMANY OR FRANCE.

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    The reason why the situation has descended to this sorry state is ONLY because the President (who has the right and the might to do so) has not uttered a single word calling for calmness, peace or solution.

    He only appointed a parliamentary committee to inquire into the matter, but in the meantime has allowed the mad dogs to run free.

    If one watched the recent video clip (now going viral on the net)showing the rantings of the frenzied Secretary monk of the BBS, one realises that he is not a religious dignitary but merely a thug masquerading as one.

    The foul and obscene language he used denigrating Muslims in the most vulgar manner exposed him for the vile racist that he is, and proved beyond doubt that Halaal is really not his issue. In fact, in the middle of his rantings he threatened to overthrow the government using the vernacular expression “mother’s cloth”! In any language that amounts to treason, but the government has not bothered to react.

    Apologists for the BBS like Champika and Gammanpila are clearly hypocrites singing for their supper (non-halaal). They can only thrive on this type of false and alarmist propaganda. Champika is the biggest joker as he now claims to be an authority on the Koran and the Sharia with regard to halaal!

    Now that the Halaal Certfication has been dropped, both BBS and JHU are still not happy. So what in Lord Buddha’s name do they now want?!

    Obviously they are smarting that they were totally ignored by the moderate and sane Sangha and captains of industry and commerce, when a resolution to abandon halaal certification was agreed upon and announced.

    The decent and peace loving people of Sri Lanka, weary from 30 years of war and destruction, are fed up with this nonsense.

    Mr. President, can the nation please hear the last word from you and bring closure to this subject?

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      Dear friend,
      “Now that the Halal Certfication has been dropped, both BBS and JHU are still not happy. So what in Lord Buddha’s name do they now want?!”

      The on going HALAL process is not yet abolished. What they did is only cancelling HALAL symbol that show surface on the packet. Furthermore they said even this task will be implementing after finishing the present stock at the market.

      DO YOU THINK SINHALA BUDDHISTS TOO FOOLISH TO HAPPY TO BUYING FOODS THAT ARE COMING FROMM HALAL PROCESS? THE PROBLEM THAT SHOULD BE SOLVE IS NOT TO ABOLISH THE HALAL SYMBOL BUT TO ABOLISH THE ENTIRE HALAL PROCESS.

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        I fully agree with you Mr Sumanasekara.

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      HOW CAN THE PRESIDENT SAY ANYTHING AGAINST THESE TROUBLE MAKERS WHEN
      IT IS PRODUCED AND DIRECTED BY HIM.

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    The Tamil politicians said the Muslims were Tamil because Muslims speak Tamil

    There is no Muslim race is there…. it is a religion thats why we cant accept a religion that indulges in barbaric tribal type killing

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      How many barbaric tribal killings by Muslim have you seen recorded in this country in the last 100 years?

      We have seen young men ruthlessly gun down their own people in Jaffna for petty crimes like selling illicit liquor, for prostitution etc.
      Clearly it can be assumed that all Tamils are barbaric by virtue of these killings.
      You would be quick to remind us that they were a terrorist organization.

      The SL government took a similar position that since all the LTTE’ERS are Tamils, that all the Tamils are terrorists. Patently unfair.

      I hope you understand that just because a few are violent tarring all of us as violent is not a very intelligent position to take!

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    The worst aspect of this ‘halal controversy’ is that the President appears to have caved in to demands of BBS and cancelled Family Planning/Birth Control Services by state health care providers.

    I remember that the JVP demanded same during the second insurrection – a doctor friend who continued to provide Birth Control Services in Tangalle, was killed by them,along with many others.

    Contraception – prevention/avoidance of pregnancy – is a birthright
    of any woman,married or not,in this modern age.

    Sri Lanka will be considered as a pariah nation which denies this basic right to women and will be held in contempt.

    So far,Womens’ groups appear to be in hibernation,along with the medical fraternity, parliamentarians and groups which demand Social Justice – are they under political threats/pressure?

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    Lionel – Surprised you go under a Christian name while you are Muslim.
    India was one country only after 1947. Muslims ruled parts of it in the North (to a lesser extent Hyderabad Deccan) and not entirely, as you try to distort history. So Spain.

    As to Pakistan, what’s wrong with you, man. Don’t you read the papers?
    Its again hell out there to those innocent Christians – in Lahore,
    Karachi and elsewhere. Not long ago, a senior Catholic cleric (Archbishop?) committed suicide by shooting himself on the head to tell the world the massive suffering imposed on his flock. Surely, even liars try to conduct their “business” more discreetly.

    I filter my information and research before I send them out. If it is one that is a sensitive nature, I double check.

    Have you noticed your own are fighting in these pages among themselves in the “Not me, Sir. Its you, Sir” and so on – although not in those cultured words. All because The Plan failed half-way.

    Senguttuvan

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      Senguttuvan,

      You are regurgitating your hate filled nonsense! I have baseless allegations in my last post.

      Once you have hear filled with hatred, the head will only absorb BS.

      You are ignorant of history too. Muslim India included Pakistan, Bangladesh and a greater part of India. If there was any part of today’s india that wasn’t under mulim rule, that is proof that Muslims weren’t interested in interfering with Hindus in that part. Religious freedom granted by Islam!

      Christians survived the over 7 centuries of Muslim rule in Pakistan. Why are they suddenly facing problems from ‘muslims’ now? Firstly, Pakistan has ceased to be Muslim. Muslims have a convicted criminal imposed upon them by the West. Zardari! He is a secular leader. And Pak. is under American invasion. It is not just American drones, it is American intel agents on the ground too. Where these American criminals are present there is bloodshed.

      You would not know this, because you read no decent news papers!

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        typo: 1- i have ANSWERED YOUR baseless allegation in my last post.
        2- once you have a heart filled with hatred, the head will
        only absorb BS.

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        WHEN THE BRITISH TOOK OVER INDIA, THE RULER WAS THE MUGHAL EMPEROR BAHADUR SHAH, WHO WAS SENT INTO EXILE IN BURMA.WHERE HE LIES BURIED.AFTER ALL THE YEARS OF MUSLIM RULE THE MAJORITY WERE HINDUS.
        WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THERE WERE NO FORCED CONVERSIONS TO ISLAM!!!!

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    Why waste comments on what the Ranawaka s and the Gammanpilla says .They are racists and having small minds, surely as buddhist they have to go through their Karma and pay for their sins.Buddha has not asked his followers to be wicked,he preached compassion,these,racists like the Ranawakas and the Gammanpilla s think they know too much of buddhism,leave them alone let them do what they want even instigate killings ,their karma will follow them.

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    ‘…Halal is a modern scientific concept that must be used by muslims …..????????
    Kindly enlighten me on this…pl…pl…
    Due to the pressure of the animal welfare societies, UK government is going to pass a bill about Halal meat in the UK.
    Just think if world largest economy USA asks they want Evanjalical critian lable certified products? UK asks Church of England logo product? India asks ‘rama seal’ products? What will happen to the international trade? Muslims should understand this problem. Why do they want to divide community based on unethical and un-logical concepts like Halal mark? UK parliament is going to pass a bill regarding about the animal slaughter and Halal lable. Kindly anyone tell me why non Muslims should eat Halal food?

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      WHO ASKED NON-MUSLIMS TO EAT HALAL FOOD? THE HALAL IS FOR MUSLIMS.

      YOU ARE FREE TO EAT THE PIG THAT LIVES ON SHIT, BUT MUSLIMS CANNOT.
      ITS SIMPLE. IS THAT ASKING TOO MUCH

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        Dear friend,

        There are no biscuits in the market without halal,no diary foods without halal,no chili powders without halal,and there are many, what can non Muslims do? Kindly elaborate your solution

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    If Muslims are prohibited to eat pork, it is ok we respected to it…but why these lables…manufactures can mentioned the product is not included port fat on their lable description. Then non Muslims also can consume that product. As non Muslim why should I want to follow Muslim concepts? When Talebans are destroying world largest Buddhist statues and great civilization of Persia, the silk and spice route Budhist countries (Iran, Iraq, Afganistan..) what were these people did? Nothing…

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      THE HALAL LABEL IS FOR MUSLIMS. YOU ARE FREE TO EAT OR NOT EAT.
      NO ONE ASKS YOU TO FOLLOW MUSLIM CONCEPTS
      STATUES ARE NOT PERMITTED IN ISLAM SO THE TALIBAN DESTROYED THEM.
      JUST TELL ME WHERE THE BUDDHA WANTED STATUES TO BE MADE OF HIM AND WORSHIP HIM.
      IN SHORT THE BUDDHISM OF THE SINHALESE IS NOT THE ORIGINAL TEACHINGS OF THE BUDDHA. I CHALLENGE ANYONE TO PROVE ME WRONG.
      EVEN CHRISTIANS ARE PROHIBITED FROM HAVING STATUES AND EATING PORK.

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        Dear friend,
        Before challenging anybody you better to read the history book of SRI LANKA, namely M A H A W A N S A Y A

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    The writer seems to be from the old school of values and principles… a delightful experience reading it, with the style he adopts for his essay…

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    Marakkala Lionel,

    Bangladesh, you pitiful ignoramus, was carved out of former India, in 1971 when there were nearly 30% Hindus in that land of Hindu Rabindranath Tagore, whose poem they have stolen as their National Song. It is the “peaceful, tolerant, merciful” stuff you follow that has reduced them to around 6% presently. That’s mass murder, genocide and savagery all wrapped into one.

    When you changed your pen-name to a Muslim one, let me know. How about Sinhala Marikkar – the name of that crook in the 1956 Cabinet who was caught and dismissed for lying and bribery.

    Senguttuvan

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      Dear Senguttuvan,
      You could have add that about 12,000 years ago India was composed of Pakistan, Bangaladesh, Burma, parts of Afganistan – known as ‘Bharath’. It is after the invasion of Muslims, all these problems cropped up. Any religion that relies on violence, eventually vanishes with violence by itself. With all these onslaughts on Hinduism, it still stands with its head on. Hinduism also accommodates all religions including Islam and that is the beauty of Hinduism. Mark my word Hinduism will be in its zenith within the next 200 years.

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    Correction – carved out of former East Pakistan and not India – nonetheless in Indian soil. Regrets.

    Senguttuvan

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      @ senguttvan!

      This ignoramus believes that history of the subcontinent began either in 1971, when what Pakistan was halved OR in 1947 when the British raj was carved into india and pakistan.

      As someone pointed out, this imbecile scrounges for information on the net hoping that this would somehow give him the look of the learned! He should go back to school.

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    This is a funny state of affairs. No sense in these arguments’. There is a lot of political, racial and religious bias on both sides.
    The enlightened one practised and preached the way of life, it is indeed a great philosophy and I believe there are about 15- 20% out of 80% of the Buddhist community who are practising this great philosophy, unfortunately we in our country have made this a religion and 90% of the time the philosophy is totally forgotten and used only when it is advantageous to one’s survival. On the other hand the Moor community who are predominately Muslims need to understand their stance in society where they are minorities, it is not in the cap, dress or appearance that they should be Muslims but in their attitudes, their kindness, humbleness is what should be seen if they are real practising Muslims.
    All religions and philosophies’ are imported into this great motherland of ours. We can follow any religion we want if we believe in it, but for goodness sake, let’s not do things or follow cultures where the religions originated from.
    We are Sri Lankans, we have a history of being hospitable, being kind and being accommodative of one another and that was part of our culture immaterial of religious beliefs, immaterial of which background we come from., of course such good etiquettes and qualities are fast fading away.

    Both of you Non-Muslims and Muslims. Religion should be in your heart, not in your sleeves. Respect each other just because you have a right don’t let the other side down, think beyond your square, not your religion, not your pride but humanity and live in humility as good Citizens.

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