
By Ameer Ali –

Dr. Ameer Ali
Whether it was a “politically strategic or principled decision”, Ranil Wickremesinghe’s (RW) initiatives to implement 13th Amendment has raised fears among different communities for different reasons. Among them the Muslim community of which almost one third live in the north and east of the country, is raising concerns over their future in a Tamil dominated single mega province or two separate provinces with powers devolved as per provisions in 13A. Muslim politicians had been requesting for an exclusive dialogue with RW to discuss this matter but their request has so far been ignored. There may be two reasons for RW’s nonchalance. Firstly, 13A was an India inspired legislation, and Rajiv Gandhi’s main concern at that time was to satisfy the Tamil community and prevent its youth from weaponizing the Tamil problem, which of course failed. That exclusive concern for Tamils is even stronger under Modi’s regime, which has no sympathy for Muslims. RW may not therefore want to displease his Indian strategic friend by giving prominence to Muslim concerns. And secondly, and a more plausible reason could be RW’s confidence that he could win the support of Muslim leaders for any decision that he takes at the end. History has proved repeatedly that Muslim politicians with rare exceptions have no principles but only interests. If the price is right, they would raise their hands to support any motion even if it were to prove detrimental to their own community as demonstrated during the 20th Amendment saga. With such leadership, which Muslim voters themselves chose, it would be difficult for the community to counter the Tamil demand for full implementation of 13A.
But whether Muslims support or oppose 13A the community is caught between two evils: an internationally backed and aggressive Tamil nationalism which is only marginally interested in Muslim affairs, and an even more hawkish Bhikkhu led Sinhala resistance group whose demagogues consider Muslims as aliens. Tamil nationalism, which started as the representative voice of all Tamil speaking people including Muslims, gradually excluded them paving the way for the rise of Muslim political parties. The deterioration of Tamil-Muslim relations in the north and east, in spite of a strong linguistic affinity, reached its nadir with violence unleashed against Muslims by the Tamil Tigers. With Prabakaran’s wholesale expulsion of Muslims from Jaffna and Mannar in October 1990 followed by episodes of LTTE massacres of Muslims in parts of the Eastern Province, which provoked counter expulsions and massacres of Tamils in Muslim enclaves, the two communities that live cheek by jowl like the proverbial pittu and coconut have distanced themselves and minimized their contacts with each other. This situation arose because of the abject failure of leadership on both sides. Brevity prevents tracing the history of that failure. But the tragedy is that even now leaders from both sides are so casual and indifferent in rectifying the damage and Muslims in particular are looking at 13A as a mortal threat to their very survival as a vibrant community. The land issue is at the heart of this fear. For example, in Batticaloa District where Muslims account for 30 percent of the population are locked within a land area of approximately 20 km2 which is less than one percent of the total area of that district. With devolution of power over land and police administration to Tamil dominated provincial councils Muslims fear that they would be forced into living in overcrowded favelas. Kattankudy with 4.3 km2 and 50,000 people is already transforming into a modernized urban sprawl.
Yet, by opposing 13A the community is inadvertently strengthening the hands of the Sinhala opponents who themselves have no special love for Muslims. Political opportunism would encourage Sinhala-Buddhist supremacists to ally with Muslims temporarily to promote the supremacist agenda of transforming the demographic topography of north and east. With weaponized archaeology, violent land acquisitions and cynical schemes to chop and change areas of electorate districts through delimitation commissions so as to reduce minority representations, Sinhala Buddhist hegemonic agenda is proceeding without any check in the two provinces. Mullaitivu is one district in the north where this sinister exercise is blatantly carried out. But once these hegemons gain control of these areas their Muslim ally would become curry leaves. To the hegemons, Tamils are at least natives but to be kept enslaved, whereas Muslims are aliens to be dispatched to the Middle East. This frightening scenario cannot be dismissed if one were to study critically how the prevailing socio-political system or paradigm has worked over the last seven decades. So, what is the way out for Muslims as well as other minorities?
System change is imperative and the crying need of the time. The country needs a system based on a new constitution that enshrines the values and principles of secular democracy with uncompromising independence of the judiciary, if it wants to remain a peaceful, vibrant and economically thriving multi-ethnic and multi-cultural polity like Singapore. The rights and freedom available to and enjoyed by an Appuhamy must be the same as those of an Anthony, Arumugam or Abdulla. It was from such a platform the aragalaya youth raised the cry for system change and called for a new paradigm in governance. Regrettably, a lack of coordinated and matured leadership and associated structural weaknesses in their organization did not allow aragalaya to carry forward its demand beyond the sloganeering stage. Currently however, of all the political parties and groups that are in the fray to capture power only NPP appears to have taken the aragalaya cudgel to change the system. Therefore, Muslims have to wake up and realize that they have no future under the existing ethnocentric political culture, and that to counter Sinhala and Tamil nationalisms with Muslim communalism would be suicidal. What have the so-called Muslim parties achieved so far?
From the time of the introduction of parliamentary democracy in this country, Muslim politics had been an exercise in choosing and joining the winning side. The two Muslim parties are playing the same game. Within the confines of ethnocentric politics Muslim leaders chose political opportunism as the winning strategy to gain prestige and privileges rather than fighting for rights. That strategy was tolerated and even welcomed by Sinhalese leaders, because it helped them to ignore and defeat any threat from Tamil nationalism. After 2009 however that situation had changed dramatically. After winning the civil war and in a triumphalist mood, political Buddhism and its champions are now claiming supremacy and ownership of the entire country. Its leaders are therefore rejecting RW’s 13A initiatives. Do Muslims blindly want to join these supremacists without considering an alternative like NPP that wants to change the system and lead the country along a different direction? 13A is bad, but removing it without changing the political paradigm is worse. RW’s initiative to implement 13A in the name of reconciliation is an exercise in finetuning the existing system.
Even in the past when socialist leaders offered alternatives to communal politics Muslims rejected them wholesale. NPP is offering another opportunity now. True, there is always the fear of the unknown. But there is risk in everything. NPP may not be perfect but it looks the only sensible alternative to face the challenges facing nation today. The coordinated attack against NPP by all other reactionary parties is itself a silent testimonial for its progressive credentials.
*Dr. Ameer Ali, Murdoch Business School, Murdoch University, W. Australia
Ajith / September 2, 2023
The author is trying to create a psychological fear among Muslim community about traditional Tamil and Sinhalese political establishments in support of NPP. He believes that NPP will bring system change and it is good for all communities. However, there is a possibility that this attitude of creating fear about Majority Sinhalese and majority Tamils by Musims may result in isolation of Muslim community by both communities. The question is how far the Muslim politicians are going to react to this effort from Ameer Ali?
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old codger / September 2, 2023
“Anthony, Arumugam or Abdulla. It was from such a platform the aragalaya youth raised the cry for system change and called for a new paradigm in governance. …….Currently however, of all the political parties and groups that are in the fray to capture power only NPP appears to have taken the aragalaya cudgel to change the system”
How many Anthonys, Arumugams, or Abdullahs are to be found in the JVP Politburo? Methinks a lot fewer than some other parties which have not been canonised by Dr. Ali.
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Native Vedda / September 2, 2023
old codger
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In Pakistan controlled Kashmir too you will find beginning of some sort of Aragalaya moment, where people want rights, ….. also they threaten to join Hindians if they are not treated well, ….. Therefore it appears Islam as unifying force didn’t work well but hindered progress, and impoverish the people and people want to exercise democracy.
Watch the clip:
Massive protest erupts in Gilgit Baltistan against Pakistan govt after Shia cleric’s arrest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyk6XZxBLkc
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Do you think Sri Lanka should send its Surgeon General Shavendra, Weerasekera, …… to Pakistan to quell protest, unrest, ….. ?
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old codger / September 3, 2023
Native,
You shouldn’t take too seriously any comments by Indians about Pakistan, Chinese about India, Indians about China, CNN about Russia, etc etc……
Let’s wait and see.😁😁😁
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Native Vedda / September 3, 2023
old codger
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Thanks.
I don’t even take any comment seriously by Indians on India.
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However it does not mean Pakistan is not in dire state.
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old codger / September 3, 2023
Native,
It is, but maybe not as much as WION says.
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Native Vedda / September 3, 2023
old codger
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Sinhalese sleep | Eastern Muslims land – cannot give up – Jehan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JU03FbZg_o&t=433s
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Please listen to her, at least Ranil has a responsibility to educate this person in history, history of the development of 13A, ……… why Hindians interfered in regional matters in 1987, … What was the role of USA and the west, why Gota has to run away, if he was the right democratic ruler the supporters 6.9 Million would have defended him, …………… She sounds as if it was Hindians who created the economic crash in Sri Lanka, ………………….
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Who is she I have never seen or heard her before?
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old codger / September 4, 2023
Native,
That’s Jehan Hameed, the notorious Rajapaksa acolyte and businesswoman. A complicated character, whose husband died in the Easter bombings, but still all out for the Rajapakses.
Anyhow, she has this cute way of adjusting her headscarf, like Benazir Bhutto.
https://twitter.com/jehan_hameed/status/1558117177412034560?s=20
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Native Vedda / September 4, 2023
old codger
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Thanks I have seen her somewhere couldn’t locate.
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Okay now Channel for has decided to make another investigative documentary on Easter Bombing, will be telecaste on 5th Sept 2023, 11.05 PM UK time. Sri Lanka Easter Bombing.
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“A complicated character, whose husband died in the Easter bombings, but still all out for the Rajapakses.”
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In effect Rajapaksas killed her husband.
She must be really devoted to Paksas.
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After the release of Sri Lanka Easter Bombing by Channel 4, which of our IT experts (Prof) going to discredit the documentary?
Do you think this is the work of diaspora (this time it is Sinhala, Tamil, Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhists, …) supported by their bank balances and Colonial masters?
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This time Shenali Waduge should be given the responsibility to draft rebuttal script. Don’t get me wrong I like stupid racists to make it worse for themselves and their masters.
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old codger / September 5, 2023
Native,
“which of our IT experts (Prof) going to discredit the documentary?”
Rohan Gunaratna jumped the gun on Derana yesterday.
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Sinhala_Man / September 4, 2023
old codger,
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I know that support for the JVP (and probably membership of its Politburo) is too much from Sinhalese who have a Buddhist background. However, those people are not racists. I’ve followed up on my efforts to correct all that, and yesterday, at last, I managed to guide Dr Ameer Ali to understand what had transpired at AKD’s Perth (Australia) meeting.
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My actual report on that I shall now place in a more appropriate place on this page. This is a process which needs patience and understanding.
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Sinhala_Man / September 2, 2023
Dear Ajith,
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There now are two comments on this article. I have read yours, but I have not yet grasped its import!
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The second comment is by me, and hopefully I knew what I was writing myself!
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When we do something. there is always the risk of something going wrong. Therefore, too many people do nothing. That is the reason why the villains triumph.
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I’m even older than the old f**t who is the principle villain who now controls us all, with no mandate to do so. Therefore, I’m doing all that I can to oppose the Tyrant. There may be risks in so doing. Already, I’ve been called various names. Every comment that I make appears to be given Red THUMBS DOWNs by various Sinhala racists. A bullet from Ranil’s lackeys has not yet hit me. Since I must soon die of natural causes, it doesn’t matter much.
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Two comments on this article are already visible. One is by me. It was only after typing the first two sentences of this comment that I read Dr Ameer Ali’s current article. I also had a two-minute WhatsApp chat with Ameer in Perth. He hasn’t yet viewed the YouTube of the Perth video. So some will blame him also for the current situation!
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old codger / September 3, 2023
SM
“A bullet from Ranil’s lackeys has not yet hit me.” . What makes you think you are that important? Can you name anyone who has been shot by Ranil’s lackeys recently, even the perpetual student Wasantha Mudalige? I am sure your JVP pals are waiting for a martyr to prop up their flagging fortunes.
Stop being such a bloody drama queen.
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leelagemalli / September 4, 2023
OC,
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The million dollar question is that from 2005 to 2015, this so-called patriot, the extremely cruel Mahinda Rajapaksa, did not speak a single word while destroying the country in many ways.I have no doubt, brutal JVPrs have brainwashed SM as nothing can reverse. Or this clown is beyond cure.
To tell you the truth OC, I myself questioned that Gota should have given “reduction in fuel prices” to the people in early 2020, where this pundit snake_man told me to let the government increase the state revenue. The late Minister Mangala Samaraweera reminded the nation that the Rajapaksa couple also looted the fuel reduction.
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Sinhala_Man / September 4, 2023
Yes, I said that about petrol prices.
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That is what Ranil has done again.
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It hurts us. Governments need revenue. The problem is that the money so earned must be spent wisely.
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This is too mild a statement by me here.
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Mahila / September 6, 2023
S_M,
“It hurts us. Governments need revenue. The problem is that the money so earned must be spent wisely.”
You have a Very Valid Point – Latter Part in expending Wisely!!??
What the government is doing right now is recovering their expenditure in procuring Petrol!!!
The Pricing is also a measure to control the usage – as more usage means more Imports to meet demand, which means more USD, which Government is hard-put to find, meaning USD!!!??? The same as the reason of escalating the Interest rate; Limit consumption!!!??? It’s for Greater GOOD of Majority People!!??
Alternative, is curtail supplies – makes Queues and line-up for fuel – cry and curse the government, WITH NO REDUCTION IN CONSUMPTION!!!??? USD are EXPENDED!!
Other reason is beyond Government control – Import prices – determined by Cartels and Suppliers – wish Ranil W controls them and foreign Governments too!!!???
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Nathan / September 4, 2023
leelagemalli,
Good to remember Rodney King’s plea: – Can we all get along?
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old codger / September 4, 2023
LM,
To tell the truth, sometimes I am tempted to go to Bandarawela with an AK 47. But that would be too expensive. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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SJ / September 4, 2023
The trip, the device or the time?
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Sinhala_Man / September 4, 2023
Dear LM.
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I was an outspoken critic of the Rajapaksas from around 2006.
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I got to know about Colombo Telegraph only when Maithripala Sirisena allowed us to access it in Lanka.
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Sinhala_Man / September 4, 2023
Dear old codger,
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I agree that on a sane appraisal of the risks that I run my fears are exaggerated. It may be that I do resemble a Drama Queen in that.
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What then would you be saying about Dan Silva? For years he imagined that he was in the same danger as Jamal Khashoggi. Until I told him that Jamal’s uncle had been this man,
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Khashoggi
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Dan did not realise why that family has been targetted so much. Dan is quite safe in writing from Germany about our obscure little island.
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I want “leelagemalli” to be safe, and writing. He’s probably got over many of his phobias. I warned him that if he exaggerates and distorts the way he still does, I would be forced to reveal his identity. However, I do request that he should be more rational, and less given to exaggerations which amount to lying. As soon as I revealed his location, he told us that he had moved his residence from Düsseldorf, which is obviously untrue.
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Admittedly what I did was somewhat unethical.
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Panini Edirisinhe of Bandarawela
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SJ / September 2, 2023
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It is an real, existing fear regardless of whatever motive you may impute to the author.
The fact is that Tamil nationalists as a whole are either indifferent to Muslims and Hill Country Tamils when they are not hostile to them.
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Ajith / September 2, 2023
SJ,
You may be called it as an existing fear but it could be an opportunistic fear as well. I don’t understand why you are hostile towards only against Tamil nationalists or Tamil community. In my opinion, it could be due to a personal grudge to go against Tamil community as a whole.
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SJ / September 4, 2023
One can equally say the same about the fears Tamils have of their oppressors.
The saying goes: “What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander”
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Mahila / September 6, 2023
(Part II)
detractors – including “Old Foxes”, “Bumiputra” (Borrow a Javanese term) and “Chameleons” in the guise of patriotism (on both sides of the divide) annihilating the fabric of Society!!!
So it’s AXIOMATIC to term it as SINHALA-TAMIL ISSUE!!!??? NONE other suits!!!???
Unquote
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Mahila / September 6, 2023
(Part I)
SJ,
Attaching the below comment of mine, wrote in response to a similar question as to why the National Question is always commonly termed as SINHALA-TAMIL issue and not specifically and overtly inclusive of MUSLIMs as I couldn’t find the original comment on it by you!!!
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SJ,
“If the claim is valid, why have proposals for a SOLUTION to the NATIONAL QUESTION always been POSED AS A SINHALA–TAMIL ISSUE and fail to address the aspirations and grievances of Muslims and Hill Country Tamils..”
Sorry, that it has come to rest on my shoulders to point this “anomalous” claim of an Erudite!!??
BECAUSE, Muslims in Sri Lanka follow the Islamic RELIGION, although they are mainly belong to the “TAMIL RACE”!!??
SIMILARLY, Hill Country Tamils, name implies are, TAMIL Racial origin!!! Hindus, Christians, Catholics, IRRELEVANT!! They are Tamils – Race classification!!!???
You would discern it’s evident, clearly demonstrated well, it’s an issue prevalent between Sinhala – Tamil speakers in this Island!!??
What else may be issue be referred to as???
It cannot be Muslims or Tamil Christians, Catholics, Tamil Hindus and Vaishnavites!!?? Could we???
No wonder this matter was never resolved – 70 years, such SILLY DEFLECTIONS by those
(TBC)
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Mahila / September 6, 2023
(Part II)
detractors – including “Old Foxes”, “Bumiputra” (Borrow a Javanese term) and “Chameleons” in the guise of patriotism (on both sides of the divide) annihilating the fabric of Society!!!
So it’s AXIOMATIC to term it as SINHALA-TAMIL ISSUE!!!??? NONE other suits!!!???
Unquote
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Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam / September 2, 2023
Solution should be based on natural justice and not to accommodate fears of Muslims or agendas of Buddhists. This is why I have told Tamils to make their claims on internationally acceptable principles which will be a sure winner:
1. If Srilanka cannot be divided, Tamil homeland also cannot be divided.
2. Land belongs to first nation and not to refugees or recent settlers.
3. Tamils must have the same rights as Sinhalese to rule themselves.
According to these, north and east merger minus Amparai electorate is fair. To compensate for the loss, Puttalam electorate which is cradle of Dravidian civilization can be added.
We often hear of Muslims complaining of discrimination and violence. But the worst racism is the Muslim claim to eastern province and to achieve that to commit atrocities on Tamils.
If 70% of Muslims are prepared to live under Sinhala rule as second class citizens despite being subjected to sporadic violence, there is no excuse for 30% of Muslims to live under Tamil rule. Obviously Muslims are being put up by government to scuttle justice to Tamils.
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Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam / September 2, 2023
As for eastern province, first nation are Tamilized Veddhas followed by Tamils. How can Muslims who went there as refugees 400 years ago, claim that the land belong to them over the heads of Tamils who gave them refuge. As for Sinhalese, there are Sinhalised Veddhas living in interior part of Amparai district such as AGA divisions of Padiyatalawa, Mahaoya, Inginiyagala, Amparai and Lahugala. These areas can be detached for East and linked to Uva. Rest of the Sinhalese are resent settlers. If you see the census details, Sinhalese were only 3% in Trincomalee district and 5% in entire Eastern province prior to state sponsored colonization to alter demographic pattern. Kantalai which was once Tamil majority town has now been completely ethnically cleansed. So it is nothing but fair to consider eastern province minus Amparai electorate as traditional Tamil homeland. Any Sinhalese or Muslim who is not willing to live under Tamil rule should be trans-located to a place of his choice with compensation paid. When Senthil Thondaman was appointed as Governor of eastern province, Muslim politicians protested, as they feared that their racist machinations will not be tolerated. What is happening is according to Indian backing to deliver justice. Has anyone noticed that Indian Tamils have become brave in standing up to injustice.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / September 3, 2023
Correct it was the island’s Tamils from the north and east, who fought for the rights of all the Tamil-speaking people, Christian, Hindu or Muslim, native indigenous from the north, east and northwest coast, or recent Indian origins like the estate Tamils and Muslim Tamils. The preservation of the Tamil language, history and culture and the ancient historic Tamil homelands in the northeast. Due to this struggle, they suffered untold miseries and still are suffering. Lost so many lives, wealth movable and immovable, they lost so much of their lands, faced structural genocide and were victims of war crimes, forcing 1/3 of their population to leave the island permanently, largely to the west, never to return. The Indian origin Tamils had their own problems and understandably never participated in this struggle by the native Tamils, but never hindered it and just kept out of it.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / September 3, 2023
On the other hand, the island’s Muslim Tamils or Sri Lankan Moors as they love to call themselves, did the opposite. From the time of so-called independence, they had joined all Sinhalese-led governments, to deny the Tamils their just rights, marginalize them and help the Sinhalese to steal their lands in the east, with the sole aim of using these Sinhalese colonists to steal the ancient Tamil east, where they arrived as refuges 400 years ago, claiming to be Tamil, for themselves. Despite being ethnically Tamil, in the name of their religion and a fake blanket Arab/Moor origin, they joined the Sinhalese in their genocidal, war criminal dance against the island’s Tamils and benefited immensely. Now if anything is to be granted to the Tamils, after all this sacrifice and suffering, largely because of international pressure. These people, as usual, want everything for themselves. They want to benefit from the sacrifice and tears of the native Tamils who fought for what was rightfully theirs and steal the ancient Tamil east, that they have no right to using religion as an excuse and a recently acquired alien Arab culture and think they can get away with it.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / September 3, 2023
They arrived in the Tamil East as refugees, claiming to be Tamil and it was they in the name of their religion, Arab culture, created all the disharmony, violence and rift there and still are and now want to steal it from the native Tamils. Without sacrificing or fighting they also think they can get away with and the Sinhalese deliberately muddy the waters will help them. They have no right to the Tamil East over the heads of the native Tamils but as fellow Tamils to live in peace and dignity and practice their religion. Stop using religion and a fake origin to divide the Tamil people for small petty benefits, that will only benefit the southern Muslim elite.
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Rohan25 / September 6, 2023
The reason why the Tamils from NE fought sacrificed and suffered a lot is because they had an affinity and love for their own ancient homeland, where they had evolved as a people, created their history, thrived and ruled themselves. Just like the way a mother loves her own child and is willing to sacrifice and forgo anything to protect the child. However, these Muslims never did anything as they do not have that affinity or love for the Tamil North East, where they arrived as refugees only a few centuries ago. They just like the fake mother in King Solomon’s story only want to profit and be rewarded by the sacrifice, suffering, and tears of the Tamils who are the real owners of the north and east, just like the real mother in the story.
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Sinhala_Man / September 7, 2023
I submitted a comment here, but I was told that the site was “under maintenance”.
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How do I check without losing the comment?
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SJ / September 7, 2023
“How can Muslims who went there as refugees 400 years ago, claim that the land belong to them”
Where will this logic locate Hill Country Tamils?
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The land belonged to the Aththo.
The rest, like the White Americans, stole the land of the indigenous people. They also robbed a large section of their language.
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SJ / September 4, 2023
“Puttalam electorate which is cradle of Dravidian civilization”
HA HA HA HA ……………………………………..HA
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leelagemalli / September 3, 2023
Why do SL muslims in general stay that much deaf regarding their rights in our country ? was that not the real reason, sinhala buddhists were empowered to harass Dr Safi, his wife and teenager girl since May 2019 ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQIdMbYv2IU
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And, remember what CURRENT FOREign minister, Ali Sabry freightened their community regarding their use of own votes against Rajapakshes ?
He literally said to them ” if you would use vote against Rajapakshes, then people would flat you again as was the case previous riots. “: Was that not a public threaning from a muslim agent (Ali Sabry, hired agent) to own community ?
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Where have you been Dr Ali, to that point in time ? Your rise came up to bashing the current govt only. I really dont know why even doctorate holders behave as such…. I am speechless what about you, our rational commenters ?
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soma / September 5, 2023
Not only Muslims, minorities in each and every province will be at the mercy of the majority in the provinces equipped with Land and Police powers. Under privileged among the majority too will suffer.
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People will be walking from province to province.
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Criminals will find refuge in some other province.
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There will be mini wars and repeated Mavil Arus.
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Land and Police powers should not be granted to Sinhala majority provinces at least as +50% Tamil speaking people live in Sinhala majority provinces.
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Sinhala_Man / September 2, 2023
This message relates to the previous article by Dr Ameer Ali. I have just placed a link to that article below. This is a comment that I have just submitted there, changing only the links. I hope you get what I mean!
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Dr Ameer Ali has not yet seen the YouTube of the Perth Meeting. He’s said so in a WhatsApp message that had in at 7.19 am yesterday. I’ve just noticed it. The time is now 14.00 hours in Bandarawela.
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However, another article by him is now on display.
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Please see the new article here.
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https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-economy-politics-a-reality-check/
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https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/muslims-13a/
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This is why we ought not to indulge in blame games. These are just misunderstandings that we’ve been talking about. I’ll pass his observations on to you ASAP, in a comment on the next article by him, which is, as I have said,
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https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-economy-politics-a-reality-check/
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This is a link to that article.
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Panini Edirisinhe (NIC 483111444V)
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Sinhala_Man / September 4, 2023
SECTION FIVE (a)
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This is referred to as SECTION FIVE because these comments began as responses to Dr Ali’s previous article.
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https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-economy-politics-a-reality-check/
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Where it will end up getting placed, is difficult to work out. That is confusing, but let me be as clear as possible in what I say.
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Anura Kumara Dissanayake held a meeting in late June 2023. Dr Ameer Ali could not attend because he was not aware. There were many efforts by Ameer and me, and we finally succeeded yesterday. Seeing that Ameer had been recently active on WhatsApp, I sent him long text messages on WhatsApp at 1.34 pm. (I’m using Lankan time throughout) asking him to let me know that he’d seen it. This was to inform everybody.
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Ameer at 1:36: “Where is the video?”
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Panini: “It’s among the comments on YOUR article. I’ll send them again on an email. ……….., etc”
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It starts with only two minutes in Sinhalese (Dr Dammika of Kegalle) then more than 20 minutes in English. During that period we see many of the people who are on the stage. You may know some of them.
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Please listen!
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Sinhala_Man / September 4, 2023
This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our Comment policy. The key to maintaining the website as an inviting space is to focus on intelligent discussion of topics.
For more detail see our Comment policy https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/comments-policy-2
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old codger / September 4, 2023
The key to maintaining the website as an inviting space is to focus on intelligent discussion of topics. Use of the website to continuously proselytize for particular politicians is discouraged. It is inappropriate to share private messages between individuals on a public space, since this might result in many readers dying of boredom.
Also, it is not necessary to indicate the time, since this is the 21st century, and the time is shown on the screen.
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Sinhala_Man / September 4, 2023
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This is the YouTube comment:
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@Panini_Edirisinhe
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11 hours ago (edited)
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AKD’s first Australian meeting was in Melbourne, then Brisbane, next this in Perth. This meeting was followed by meetings in Sydney and Adelaide. I have made a comment two months ago when I felt that AKD would skip Sydney. I don’t think that you will be able to find that comment. This can be found if you ask to see the latest comment. I don’t expect many other comments to come above this here comment.
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Finally, I got this What’sApp comment from Ameer:
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I got the gist of it, Thanks
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But what makes me happiest is the earlier statement:
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“I was able to identify some faces in that audience.”
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Sinhala_Man / September 4, 2023
SECTION FIVE (d)
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I’m sorry readers (including the over-worked staff at Colombo Telegraph):
My loquaciousness may have made it impossible for you to understand a few dozen comments on this article, as well as on Dr Ameer Ali’s previous article, because you will not be able to locate this link to the video of the meeting which Ameer missed. Here it is:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrFs8fDr6cw
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[edited out]
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podisigngno / September 2, 2023
TheJVP is another opportunistic political entity which seeks Sinhala Buddhist votes by rejecting power devolution to the Tamils .In case the JVP (NPP ) comes to power I have no doubt that we will be able to see another Venezuela in Sri Lanka. The country will be nothing but a mess as the JVP don’t have experienced and talented people to salvage the country from the depth of economic morass .
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Sinhala_Man / September 3, 2023
podisigngno,
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OK;
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Sinhala_Man / September 3, 2023
I’m sorry, that must have been the mouse slipping somewhere. Just after midnight, the Internet failed (Fibre Optic connection, mind), so I reported through the landline (which is almost never used) for about 15 minutes. Now it’s working again. I’ve listened to only half of this.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6piYV-_dkY
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I will listen to the rest of it. Only 12 minutes. There’s a man talking like a lion. A guy we used to regard as another racist. Cardinal Malcolm Ranjith, not just in robes, but with even his Bishop’s mitre on; however, not in the red reserved for Cardinals. Let me submit this, and then continue.
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He speaks in Sinhalese, and speaks very clearly in colloquial Sinhalese (I mean that the style doesn’t suit his role as an Archbishop, for which he has dressed up). His English is pretty good.
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He probably knows Tamil (of which I don’t understand a word) but he wouldn’t dare speak in Tamil because he is (probably still) regarded as a Sinhala-racist even by Tamil-Catholics Podisigngno, why don’t you tell us who you really are?
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Panini Edirisinhe of Bandarawela (NIC 483111444V)
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leelagemalli / September 3, 2023
Podisincho,
we have gossip mongers on this forum, that persecute you and me the kind annonymous commenters even if the annonymous users are the leading portion among the commenters. I JUST WANTED to warn you please dont shy away from their threats. They may be work on a pay to their masters. Today I dont trust anyone if lived their lives all along in srilanka. I always respect Prof. Pathegama Ghanissara thero and his explanations about our society.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE5-UjSVp_Y
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Unfortunately, most of our people behave today like JVP-led-NPP spokspersons but when it comes to critical points, these men have the least knowledge to provide us with constructive answers.
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Some have no other hobbies rather than hang on their subjects, but pretending that they advocate for a real change. My gannies asked me to beware of such dogs. This reminds me on and on. THat is now becoming clearer to me than ever before.
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Native Vedda / September 3, 2023
Sinhala_Man
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I thought you are well informed however I am disappointed to see you are ever ready to buy things from crooks and unprincipled religious LEADERS.
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This man essentially practicing hypocrite, ……
He condemned UN and other international agencies interfering in Sri Lankan domestic affairs and he went on to beg the Vatican and outsiders to interfere in Easter Sunday investigation, opposed to Indo Lanka bridge, opposed to Gays, closely aligned with saffron racists, …. and an ardent b***s carrier to Mahinda, basically cross dresser, …..
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Being a Christian true to the faith he should have condemned government’s war crimes, crime against humanity, human rights violation, intervened to prevent war, like some of the saffronistas practicing Sinhala/Buddhism he too is practicing Sinhala/Catholicism. He is a close associate of Anti Muslim saffronistas.
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Watch this link please:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr-kPZ8Tcy8
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Athuraliye Rathana Thero commenced a protest fast in front of Sri Dalada Maligawa in Kandy on 31st May demanding the removal of Minister Rishad Bathiudeen, Eastern Province Governor M.L.A.M Hizbullah and Western Province Governor Azath Salley from their respective posts.
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Native Vedda / September 3, 2023
Sinhala_Man
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I thought you are well informed however I am disappointed to see you are ever ready to buy things from crooks and unprincipled religious LEADERS.
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This man essentially practicing hypocrite, ……
He condemned UN and other international agencies interfering in Sri Lankan domestic affairs and he went on to beg the Vatican and outsiders to interfere in Easter Sunday investigation, opposed to Indo Lanka bridge, opposed to Gays, closely aligned with saffron racists, …. and an ardent b***s carrier to Mahinda, basically cross dresser, …..
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Being a Christian true to the faith he should have condemned government’s war crimes, crime against humanity, human rights violation, intervened to prevent war, like some of the saffronistas practicing Sinhala/Buddhism he too is practicing Sinhala/Catholicism. He is a close associate of Anti Muslim saffronistas.
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Watch this link please:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr-kPZ8Tcy8
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Athuraliye Rathana Thero commenced a protest fast in front of Sri Dalada Maligawa in Kandy on 31st May demanding the removal of Minister Rishad Bathiudeen, Eastern Province Governor M.L.A.M Hizbullah and Western Province Governor Azath Salley from their respective posts.
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Sinhala_Man / September 4, 2023
Dear Native Vedda,
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I fear that you have read my earlier comment too fast.
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I regard Cardinal Malcolm Ranjith, Rathana Hamuduruwo, Patali Chmpika Rananwaka, all as absolute racists.
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In that very comment which got you disappointed with me, I have said this:
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……… he is (probably still) regarded as a Sinhala-racist even by Tamil-Catholics”
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I know that Malcolm Ranjith is essentially a cunning politician.
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It gives me pleasure of a perverse sort to see him now turning on the current political establishment and on the Rajapaksas.
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I was a bit dense not realise that the “Minister” concerned was Tiran Alles, I was going on what was inside the video,. I had ignored the blurb:
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I wonder if the tense I used here
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“A guy we used to regard as another racist.”
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misled you. I still regard him as a racist.
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The whole purpose in my linking readers to that video was to denounce this leopard that is trying to change its spot.
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Cardinal Ranjith is a disgrace!
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Sinhala_Man / September 6, 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpmVJPJFMEM
The Channel 4 Documentary that has upset all the Sinhala chauvinists upset is only 5 minutes in length and is entirely in English.
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This has been one response:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFY6Vn31S-k
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Cardinal Ranjith in Sinhalese, half an hour. I’m not going to listen to it, unless some other reader tells me why I ought to.
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And this?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QMD9wkwt_o
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Vijitha Herath and two others from the NPP – 36 minutes. Entirely Sinhalese, and listened to in entirety.
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Some may refuse to listen to that. But such Tit for Tat will get us nowhere.
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Panini Edirisinhe of Bandarawela.
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old codger / September 7, 2023
SM,
“The Channel 4 Documentary that has upset all the Sinhala chauvinists upset is only 5 minutes in length and is entirely in English.”
That is not the documentary, but a trailer. The real one runs 46 min.
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Sinhala_Man / September 7, 2023
Dear oc, thanks.
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Please give me the link to the 46 minute full documentary, which you term “the real one”. Do we have to pay to see it?
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Why don’t so many people (you included!) give us all the information necessary information in “one shot” – the way that Ranjan Ramanayake was wont to do?
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I wanted to know what that fearless and honest character’s “real name” name was, and I got landed with this!
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Sadda Vidda Rajapakse Palanga Pathira Ambakumarage Ranjan Leo Sylvester Alphonsu
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See what a long entry Wikipedia gives for him, and note the crimes allegedly committed by him. Contrast with what Wikipedia says of Choka Malli:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premalal_Jayasekara
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The Appeal court acquitted him. The reason given? “………… citing that the manner in which the death sentence was imposed was in violation of the law.
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That he committed the murder seems to be granted.
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And I think that this is a fellow who supports your hero Ranil Wickremasinghe in Parliament. And Ranil isn’t allowing the Local Government elections to be held, “because there is no money”!
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Whom to tell?
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“Kaata kiyannada?
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Sinhala_Man / September 3, 2023
I’ve listened a second time to it all. Almost at the end, he speaks of three “reasons” or “aspects” (“me karana”) at the beginning, but these are the last twelve minutes of an address. He’s not standing in a pulpit, he’s seated (probably at a table) with some others who seem to be priests.
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When? This has been “Premiered on 1 Sept 2023”, but almost at the very end he speaks of the 12th. Is that the 12th of August, 2023? There can’t be any mistaking of the year. He doesn’t mention Ranil, but he’s clearly attacking Ranil’s slogans and policies. Where do we stand with fellows like this? Let’s see if somebody can enlighten us.
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Where Ameer stands is clear enough. He’s been brought up a Muslim and he’s a practicing Muslim, but not a hidebound one. Eleven months ago he had written this:
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https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/reforming-mmda-muslim-men-want-polygamy/#google_vignette
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There he is arguing eloquently for reforming the MMDA. Justice Saleem Marsoof appears also to have presented a good report; another decent man working within the Muslim heritage.
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I have come commented after holding back a few days. MMDA was introduced by the D.S. Senanayke government to make Muslim men happy.
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What a mess our entire country is in! I’m going to sleep!
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old codger / September 4, 2023
SM
“He doesn’t mention Ranil, but he’s clearly attacking Ranil’s slogans and policies. Where do we stand with fellows like this? “
Since he and you are on the same side, you ought to support him, of course.
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Sinhala_Man / September 4, 2023
No, oc, I will not support an opportunistic chameleon.
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When more sincere persons, like Eran Wickremaratne, son of Rev. Colton Wickremaratne, denounce Ranil, I support those actions of his.
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Aren’t we moving away from the topic of this article too much?.
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leelagemalli / September 6, 2023
Dear Readers,
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Fernando’s recent article questioning how AKD escaped the jail brought me back to the 89-92 era when mothers across the country had no choice but to invoke divine power to save their sons’ lives.
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Three young men could not share their thoughts on the road because their subconscious mind hinted that they would become the next victims of the government or brutal rebels. I escaped it, how many of my peers did not ?
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Some stupid people attack me on and on, that I can’t think beyond that and make up my mind for a better future, however, every time I meet the victim families in the south, I am speechless.
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At the same time, I don’t see any “special improvement” in the JVP, even if it comes from a different wine bottle.
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People like Wasantha Samarasinghe and Nalin Hevage seem to destroy everything their balanced colleagues have done so far. They should better watch out their wording on public stage.
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It’s not all about corruption and accusations, however “ruling a nation” has a lot to do with various other abilities. Sri Lanka is highly dependent on their long standing international partners. If the JVP fails to balance its external affairs using the brain, we will be defeated on the world stage again…….. rational thinkers over to you …… crying babies should learn to see it in big picture.
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leelagemalli / September 3, 2023
Podisingcho,
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts on 89-92-murderers. No matter what anyone says or does, the Janata Vimukthi Peramuna has not used the opportunity to develop. If NPP is not open to all other parties, there is definitely no electoral victory. It is obvious to anyone who has any knowledge of the last Sri Lankan elections. People are not mature enough to come for re-election in this country.
If we had acted under the leadership of a moderate group in the beginning, we could have brought about a real change in that ” Aragalaya aka struggle” that we were waiting for. Unfortunately, it ended up like a drop of water on a hot plate.
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However, even today the JVP just accuses everyone. Most people in developing countries usually behave like animals and they repeat their mistakes, but that doesn’t mean we have to tolerate corruption and abusive cultures, anyways , the people of our country and their politicians (their representatives) are very corrupt. A very poor but industrialized nation, neighboring India, is less likely to allow their miscreants to sabotage their national policies, be it sending satellites to the moon or the sun or any other effort to serve their interests, but our small nation, do everything against own developement.. Distort long term plans. That is the real big obstacle before us ” pompous srilankens”.
TBD
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leelagemalli / September 3, 2023
cont.
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Therefore, a large portion of our people do not see any difference without corruption and abuse. For example, one of my uncles who was a Sinhalese-Buddhist racist, lived his life only in SL, never allowed others to share their thoughts because we younger ones should not have the right to share our thoughts.
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No need for more examples, see ex-teachers like SINHLA´_MAN acting like ignorant people violating civil rights of others. However, these people behave like crabs, who, according to them, stand for the justice of the people. Their eyes are bent on themselves by their ego levels.
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Thus, the biggest example of our viral nature (in the older age group) is displayed by Panini Edirisinhe and his alienating behavior in CT. This is a public forum, the stupid guy is behaving like a teenager there. He does not care that he has private correspondence with some and makes it public without the knowledge of those met, which must be morally and ethically wrong. I know this is a punishable act in European countries. He continues like a deaf. How can former teachers break such basic things?
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tbc
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leelagemalli / September 3, 2023
cont.
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Our people, in general, do not respect international norms. They are misled again and again with blatant lies and sinhala buddhist myths, the consequences of which are economic stagnation and increase of poverty. Sorcery and astrology is above in their little world, while these witch doctors are highly influential in lanken society as no other country in the region.
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The people and their populist leaders (mlechcha Rajapakshe as politicians) stood against Indians, Americans, Europeans but for the Chinese. However, the country fell below an extremely poor country like Ethiopia or Tahiti last year, only the Indians supported the Sri Lankans but the Chinese did not care. Today, the Rajapaksas cannot repeate their same-baila in order to mislead the very same audience, lying about their special relations with the Chinese….. But our stupid people would take another few decades to grasp the truth.. may them be fallen even deeper in the hell. *good riddence to bad rubbish*.
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If Westerners give guidance, our people do not take it seriously at all, but jump to shoot the messengers as usual.
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That is what was tried 16 times on the last 17th with the loan from the International Monetary Fund. The world is watching us. We are ruled by middle class thugs down to all elementary levels. We are a nation who are champions of shooting the messengers but never try to correct our mistakes.
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nimal fernando / September 6, 2023
“JVP don’t have experienced and talented people to salvage the country from the depth of economic morass .”
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Would have been a great argument/point ……… if the people with experience and talent didn’t bankrupt the country!
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How worse can experience and talent ………. get?
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Your biases are all well set in …….. even before you start to “think” ……… Preconceptions, eh? :))
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SJ / September 2, 2023
“an internationally backed and aggressive Tamil nationalism which is only marginally interested in Muslim affairs, and an even more hawkish Bhikkhu led Sinhala resistance group whose demagogues consider Muslims as aliens.”
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Do these over simplified portrayals truly represent the two main nationalities?
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At least as early as 1990 a left party advocated the recognition of Muslims and Hill Country Tamils as nationalities distinct from the Tamils associated with the N&E.
The Tamil nationalists would not accept that. To many they are part of a whole dominated by N&E Tamils. One can see that attitude (especially regarding Muslims) finding frequent expression on these pages.
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Why have not the Muslim and Hill Country Tamil leaders taken the initiative to assert their right to recognition as nationalities and campaign for their self determination in the form of autonomous districts/regions and administrative bodies with devolved powers?
It takes some imagination and interest to address the interests of communities that are scattered among Tamils (N&E Tamils) and Sinhalese. It is not forthcoming from the leaders, most of whose interest is position, influence and ill gotten wealth.
Even the author of this essay has never addressed the Muslim nationality’s grievances from that perspective.
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Ajith / September 3, 2023
“The Tamil nationalists would not accept that. “
It is a lie. Yes, Tamils are happy to accept Hill Country Tamils Tamils are happy to accept Muslims as nationalities and even they gave up Chief Minister to a Muslim in the Eastern Province. Even Tamils are happy to have a Muslim unit within North East Province.
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SJ / September 4, 2023
Poor you.
You are embarrassed, I can see.
But calling me a liar will not make your claim truthful.
Making political deals is not accepting that Muslims are a nationality in their own right.
If the claim is valid, why have proposals for a solution to the national question always been posed as a Sinhala–Tamil issue and fail to address the aspirations and grievances of Muslims and Hill Country Tamils..
Some Tamil nationalists have climbed down a little to accept that they have a distinct identity but never a nationality. When very recently Sampanthan tried to edge towards that he faced a barrage of attack from within his party.
Tamil nationalism, sadly, is still Jaffna centred, Vellala dominated and conservative in social and political outlook.
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Tamil nationalists do not know the issues and do not care to know either.
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Plato / September 2, 2023
The bottom line of this essay is that the Muslims are wary of the full implimentation of the 13thA., since they [Muslims ] would not benefit in Tamil dominated areas particularly the Batticaloa district.
Also,in view of this the Muslims turn towards the JVP/NPP.
Well,this implies that the JVP/NPP is not in favour of the implementation of the 13thA.
The JVP is unable to come to terms with their Indian Expansionism stand of 1971.
The leader of the JVP, AKD says he is not in favour of Police Powers since they are highly politicised!!! Ha! Ha!. .Are they more politicised than the Public Service ?
Is the essayist asking the Muslims to support political parties that are against the aspirations of the Tamils?
He need not bother since the Muslims had always voted against the aspirations of the Tamils from about the 60s.They may have had good reasons or bad reasons or for that matter no reasons but this was the reality. ThIs time around its the JVP/NPP.?
From the frying pan into the fire?
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Nathan / September 3, 2023
I haven’t read the article yet. I believe that it is written by Ameer Ali, gathered while glancing thru the comments.
I wish to respond on what I have gathered. If I am making erroneous assumptions, I’ll not be unduly agitated!
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We have a country. The country belongs to ALL.
If everyone of us would believe in that, our worries get reduced to a single issue. How to make ‘our’ lives better.
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Our lives are terrible!
Our lives are terrible because one community that out numbers every other wants the every other to be subordinate to them.
This in essence is the problem.
One simple change of mind on the whole from the dominant group is all that would be needed to make us all live in peace and happiness.
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I am a dreamer. I’ll die dreaming!
Good luck to those who survive me.
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Nathan / September 3, 2023
Sorry: (though minor, I was careless.)
Outnumbers.
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leelagemalli / September 3, 2023
Dear Nathan,
Although we come from different communities, we are both dreamers. Our dream relay race will continue, till then we must fight against racists and other bigots in different communities.
Sri Lankans like you and their true cry must not stop. My wish is more of yours be bred on this soil. Compared to “self-proclaimed real-change-warrior” aka Sinhala_Man, you sound to be genuine to my eyes. The picture is becoming clearer day by day.
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Sri Lankans and their racist mentality are more of a threat than anti-semites in palastina.
I have palastenian colleagues from that region who work with me in Europe and share their pain again and again. Most of them are highly qualified individuals (medical doctors, professors in medicinne and science, engineers and other degree holders) that live in europe (UK, Germany, France, Switzerland, Holland, Denmark, Italy) as former refugees and now seen as migrants. So I am accessed to the thoughts of other natiionalities while struggling to face troubles in my home country.
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Compared to the suffering palastenians yet face today, it is immense. They have continued to fight for their young future. They never give up.
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Native Vedda / September 3, 2023
Nathan
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“I am a dreamer. I’ll die dreaming!”
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You are not the only dreamer. Here is someone who also said the same but the message was in Music, and the message has survived even many years after his death.
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John Lennon Imagine Official video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugrAo8wEPiI
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Lyrics by John Lennon
[Verse 1]
Imagine there’s no heaven
It’s easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us, only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today
I
[Verse 2]
Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You
[Chorus]
You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will be as one
[Verse 3]
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You
You might also like
https://genius.com/John-lennon-imagine-lyrics
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Anpu / September 4, 2023
Thanks native .
To those who wish to listen/learn to play – a version on the piano https://musescore.com/user/1842796/scores/7752791
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Native Vedda / September 4, 2023
Anpu
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According to C V Wigneshwaran, if a riots takes place the Indian army that comes to quell it would not leave the island – Tiktok.
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How far or to what extent Hindians are prepared to intervene in Sri Lanka?
Do we have to take C V Wig’s comment with a pinch of salt?
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Anpu / September 4, 2023
Native,
I too read CVW comments somewhere. I think we need to take lot of salt.
Have you listened what My3 said?
According to the title (did not watch the full clip as I do not understand Sinhala) of the clip, My3 says Buddhists monks have crated Prabhakaran. https://www.facebook.com/shortnewsTV/videos/1739355176508153
If that is true, are the monks going to create more Prabhakarans now? Is he asking Tamils votes in the next election?
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Native Vedda / September 4, 2023
Anpu
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“Have you listened what My3 said?”
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I saw the headlines only, didn’t listen to his speech.
He is another corrupt racist politician. During the October 2018 coup he supported Mahinda, when Gota was summoned to Courts for a corruption case My3 was furious, …. ..
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People should demand that the saffronistas should be tamed. Where do they get the funds to build Vihares while people are suffering from lack of food, medicine, can’t afford electricity, gas, petrol, …… essentials, … Saffronistas should be herded into ancient caves where they used to live., meditate and die. They are supposed to go out only after 2 PM just to beg for food. ….
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Well Saffronistas’ income and EXPENDITURE should be subjected audit. They are more likely to get paid by cash.
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old codger / September 4, 2023
Native,
“Where do they get the funds to build Vihares while people are suffering from lack of food”. …?
It’s the gullible people themselves who supply theses parasites with their funds.
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old codger / September 5, 2023
Native,
In fairness, I must mention that other religions do the same, in a more organised manner.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_tax#:~:text=activities%20through%20taxes.-,England,obligatory%20in%20England%20centuries%20ago.
I couldn’t find any religious organization that pays taxes. But some do supply food and shelter to the needy.
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Mahila / September 6, 2023
Politicians need to maintain momentum of these ventures, Garner Votes!!?? If momentum lost, next Oblivion!!??
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Mahila / September 6, 2023
NV,
Normal people subject to Audit and Taxes!!
People ‘enjoying FOREMOST Sanctity’ in the constitution, are not necessarily subject to such cumbersome Ignominy audit and taxes!!!
Enjoy self-assessment!!??
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Nathan / September 3, 2023
I come again, this time, having read Ameer Ali and his, ‘the Tamil demand for full implementation of 13A’.
There was never a Tamil demand for full implementation of 13A. Tamils want to see the full implementation of 13A. But, they are not demanding it.
Tamil demand for rights would not be served by full, part, or no implementation of 13A.
Of course, a full implementation of 13A would be a consolation to them.
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First of all, if at all 13A is implemented by any government, it would be done so, only reluctantly. Any reluctance from the centre would be the cause of eternal headache for the Tamils. Of course, the Sinlala government would implement it, if it is certain that it would result in the perennial enmity of the Tamils and the Muslims.
It is the uncertainty of that probability that is preventing the Sinhalese governments from the full implementation of 13A.
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Mahila / September 6, 2023
Sustenance of Eternal Divide and Rule
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Sinhala_Man / September 7, 2023
Yes, Mahila. That, without doubt is Ranil’s hope.
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Let us defeat his fell purposes!
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Even now the villain can may be able to redeem some self-respect by conducting the Local Government Election in all councils, except Elpitiya.
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Why does Elpitiya become the exception? I knew why but article this helped my old mind to recall some details about how that election went.
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https://www.sundaytimes.lk/191013/news/slpp-sweeps-elpitiya-with-slfp-rubbing-it-in-by-joining-forces-373027.html
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This article (by Jehan Perera of all people!) has looked at it from the viewpoint of the UNP (see towards.the end of the article). Who was the leader of the UNP at the time? Will some kind soul give me the answer to one of the easiest questions ever posed?
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Nathan / September 3, 2023
‘The deterioration of Tamil-Muslim relations in the north and east, in spite of a strong linguistic affinity, reached its nadir with violence unleashed against Muslims by the Tamil Tigers’.
The above line of thinking is not of Ameer Ali alone. Nearly every Muslim mouths it.
.Has anyone explained the cause of this nadir.
I shall visit this canard when I hear one.
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Sinhala_Man / September 4, 2023
The 13th Amendment is a tricky subject to discuss.
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Devolution is essential for the Northern Province, because we, the Sinhalese, keep interfering in the way of life there. To even suggest something for the good of the Eastern Province is difficult because of Tamil-Muslim rivalry, and the further efforts (begun by D.S. Senanayake) to plant Sinhalese there. That’s a fait accompli now, but it is still on-going and popular with the majority of the Sinhalese.
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But for the other Seven Provinces, it serves no purpose. It produces more bureaucratic red tape and politicians. And it’s become such an emotional issue. I fear that I have already said too much on a subject that defies intelligent discussion.
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Nathan / September 4, 2023
Sinhala_Man,
Your, ‘because of Tamil-Muslim rivalry’, is inaccurate.
There is no rivalry, only ‘competition’.
One group is ethical; The other not so much.
The proper devolution is not by way of PCs.
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Sinhala_Man / September 7, 2023
This, Nathan, I agree with you, is spot on:
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“The proper devolution is not by way of PCs.”
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As for the rest of your pithy comment, I will not umpire your competition. Being, in a sense an outsider, I just don’t know.
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I won’t even pretend to know which group is ethical, and which is “not so much”.
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Of course there is horse sense. You, being a Tamil, will claim that yours is the ethical side. However, you don’t ever get strident. I have much to learn from you.
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However, this I think we can all agree upon: on this subject Dr Ameer Ali is as balanced as anyone ever can be. However, he was a slow learner when it came to identifying the video which now represents the Perth meeting with AKD, which he missed. That was because mankind was cursed by this guy, יהוה . That according to Google Translate is how God would be written in Hebrew.
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SJ / September 4, 2023
To understand the deterioration of relations one has to examine attitudes.
Comments by Tamils abound on these pages, but all of them denounce the Muslims in the same breath that they call for better relations.
The Northern Tamil elite have a problem with equality of people. They cannot help looking down on people based on caste, race, religion and anything one can reasonably think of.
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The day we hear healthy comments by Tamils on the Muslims will be the day things will look up for good relations.
There had been the odd Muslim here who insults Tamils, but that is nothing compared to the abuse hurled against Muslims by Tamils and count the Tamils who object to it.
Having allowed killers and their accomplices to lead us for decades there is much homework for us to do.
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soma / September 5, 2023
Not only Muslims, minorities in each and every province will be at the mercy of the majority in the provinces equipped with Land and Police powers. Under privileged among the majority too will suffer.
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People will be walking from province to province.
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Criminals will find refuge in some other province.
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There will be mini wars and repeated Mavil Arus.
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Land and Police powers should not be granted to Sinhala majority provinces at least as +50% Tamil speaking people live in Sinhala majority provinces.
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Native Vedda / September 5, 2023
soma
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Thanks for manifesting in these columns.
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“Criminals will find refuge in some other province.”
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Where do they find refuge now?
Sinhala/Buddhism has been the refuge for criminals, war criminals, land grabbers, rapists, murderers, racists ……….. robber barons, mostly post independence period.
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Why did Siri Mao introduce an article for Buddhism in the constitution? It means people are not allowed to accuse the politicians, saffronista’s, ….. if they invoke Sinhala/Buddhism not only as their defense but also a vote winning election slogans. How did Gota campaign for his presidential election despite his record on human rights and defense procurement?
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An answer or solution for all problems or difficulties – panacea, … Sinhala/Buddhist.
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Even if police powers are devolved to provinces crooks, thugs, saffronistas and politicians have their protective shield, CHAPTER II – BUDDHISM of the constitution.
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Please let me know when Saffronistas and Sinhala/Buddhists are planning to start the next mother, grandmother, …. of all riots. I just want to observe.
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By the way did Sinhala/Buddhism protect this island from COVID 19 and from collapse of the economy? The country can only be saved by grass-root democracy and state institutions and politicians are subjected to local accountability.
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Forget your desire to centralised control of the state.
Don’t forget Easter Bombing and those organised it and the people who benefited from it.
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Sinhala_Man / September 7, 2023
For once, I find that I can agree with Soma. I had forgotten him, since he was absent for so long.
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Others have disliked, I shall give him a “Like”, a green thumbs up.
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I hope that Tamil readers will try to understand that in the “Other 7 Provinces” it’s a damned nuisance. It’s not for racist reasons that I wish that it wasn’t here.
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Real, rational devolution is good. It is very necessary for the Northern Province, where we, the Sinhalese have been bullying the Tamils after at least 1956.
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The Eastern Province? I dunno. So, I follow Dr Ameer Ali’s analysis. He knows the area well, and he’s balanced.
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SJ / September 5, 2023
“‘The deterioration of Tamil-Muslim relations in the north and east, in spite of a strong linguistic affinity, reached its nadir with violence unleashed against Muslims by the Tamil Tigers’.”
Canard is it?
Have you not heard of the LTTE’s massacre in the mosque in Eastern Province?
There was even more LTTE mischief in that period
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / September 6, 2023
Really shows how biased you are. In the process of genocide of the eastern Tamils by the Sri Lankan armed forces, especially in the Amparai and Trincomalee districts active support was received by the local Muslim politicians and the Muslim home guards who were heavily armed by the Sri Lankan state and hooligans. This ensured the permanent displacement of the native indigenous Tamils from these regions and strengthened their own presence and demography, to claim an Islamic homeland in future All these happened long before the Kattankudi mosque massacre, which like now was a hotbed of Islamic extremism and was also acting as their arms depot and headquarters for these Muslim Homeguards and hooligans. Once the mosque was attacked, all these attacks by these Muslim home guards and hooligans against Hindu Tamil villages and temples ceased.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / September 6, 2023
Here are some of the attacks: Sammanthurai – Kali Amman Temple was destroyed by the Muslims. Karaitivu – Kannaki Amman Temple was damaged by the Muslims, who accompanied the armed forces. Addaipallam – Meenachchi Amman Temple was damaged by the Muslims during the same period. Karavalu – A village in close proximity to Kalmunai – Anancient Kali Kovil completely destroyed by Muslims. At present, a Mosque now stands at that place. Meen Odai Kaddu – Pillaiyar Temple completely destroyed by Muslims and the Muslim community settled at that site. Oddamavadi – Batticaloa District – Pillaiyar Temple was taken over forcibly by Muslims. A Beef Stall stands there now. Here is an unforgettable Incident: In 1990, Nintavur village was rounded up by the security forces and Muslim Home Guards; 64 youths males and females were taken to the Nintavur Murugan Temple. They were slain and shot. Those killed and the groaning lot were set on fire along with the temple. The strange thing is that there is no trace of the existence of a temple at that site which was once a recognised place of worship.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / September 6, 2023
This area is now one where no Tamils can go into it and it is now a Muslim region Tiraikerui – An incident of aggression by Muslimhooligans in 1990. Muslim Hooligans armed with swords and knives entered the village and terrified the villagers. They sought refuge in their village Pillaiyar Temple. The hooligans after damaging the temple entrance door, attacked the helpless victims using their destructive weapons and after they were killed set the temple on fire. The displaced Hindu Tamils in these areas who are the real owners of these lands are still not allowed to settle in these areas, which have all become 100%. Arrived as refugees begging for refuge as fellow Tamils and then repaid this by destroying and killing the very same Tamils who took pity on them and gave refuge, land and women to marry and start families, all in the name of Islam and a fake Arab origin. These are just a few incidents that happened and forced the LTTE to act. You are fully aware of all these atrocities but keep mum about this. Proves what sort of human you are.
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Sinhala_Man / September 7, 2023
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Fairmindedone / September 3, 2023
“Muslims support or oppose 13A the community is caught between two evils: an internationally backed and aggressive Tamil nationalism which is only marginally interested in Muslim affairs, and an even more hawkish Bhikkhu led Sinhala resistance group whose demagogues consider Muslims as aliens. “
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The professor knows well that the Tamil Nationalism came out of Sinhalese nationalism, and it was crystallised only in 1976 with Vaddukoddai Resolution. TO characterise it as evil on par with the other is beneath that of the learned professor.
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Ceylon at independence was a nation of two linguistic societies; Tamil and Sinhala. It is still a multi-religious nation. Islam is not a language but a religion. It is heinous concept to create nations on faith basis.
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Ceylon Tamil people over a long period didn’t talk about any religious difference, even within and during the militancy by the youth.
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Tamil leadership doesn’t have to get into their national uniform to enunciate political ideas.
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It is cruel to label the natural development on linguistic basis, the norm around the world,
as evil choice. The professor couldn’t have meant that Tamils should lie down enjoy the subjugation.
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Tamil speaking community is composed of Tamils, Muslims and Christians, with the latter two arising from the Tamil community and the Muslims, especially, from the Tamil community alone. Now they shouldn’t try to politically bifugate the linguistic society into religious communities.
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SJ / September 4, 2023
fmo
I appreciate the spirit of your comment. But some important details cannot be ignored.
You said:
“Ceylon at independence was a nation of two linguistic societies; Tamil and Sinhala”
Not quite.
The Muslims tried to asset their separate identity when Sir P Ramanathan in a patronising way called them Tamils from South India that changed religion. His aim was probably to deny Muslim representation. But that hurt feelings. Then the man sided with Sinhala racist leaders on the 1915 riots.
The politics of the country has defined three Tamil speaking nationalities which asserted their distinctness over time.
Interestingly, the up-country v. low-country identity divide vanished very fast, despite SWRDB calling for separate federal states for the two.
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Rohan25 / September 4, 2023
what Sir Ponnamblam Ramanathan stated was the truth and he was reviled and ridiculed for stating this obvious truth and called an upper caste Tamil racist, just like the way another person on this form also first started to state this obvious truth and even provided evidence and was reviled, insulted and called by all sorts of names and now everyone knows this is the truth and even DNA has also proved this. Only self-hating Tamils like you with an agenda, the brainwashed Sri Lankan Muslims, especially their elite and the Sri Lankan state with their agenda to divide and rule the Tamils do not want to accept this obvious truth. This is what a Muslim himself wrote with regard to the Sri Lankan Muslims. Go and quarrel with him too.
https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/sri-lankan-muslims-are-low-caste-tamil-hindu-converts-not-arab-descendants/
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SJ / September 4, 2023
Sir PR was a Jaffna Tamil Vellala Hindu chauvinist who did not want women and people of ‘low’ caste to have the right to vote.
His brother was a cultured and broad minded gentleman.
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Have we not had enough of your DNA fib?
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Rohan25 / September 4, 2023
If Sir Ponnambalam Ramanathan did not want women and low caste to have the right to vote then he should be condemned for this move but it was the same with the Sinhalese as the upper caste Sinhalese voted for him and did not vote for a lower caste Sinhalese Karawa candidate, proving caste was a very important factor in the 1920s more than ethnicity. However, what he stated about the Sri Lankan Muslims or Moors is 100% correct and these two are different things and do not deliberately try to muddy the waters, as you usually do. He should be condemned for his former stance and commended for his later statement for speaking the truth about the actual origin of the Sri Lankan Muslims when most people knew the truth but feared to challenge it. He was a man of his era so caste and class were very important and even in many Western countries women and many people belonging to the lower castes and peasantry, as well as people of colour, were not allowed to vote at that time. There was no universal franchise at that time. As for DNA it never lies, you may lie but it never so cut that bullshit.
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SJ / September 5, 2023
This BS will not wash.
Plenty has been published by scholars.
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Rohan25 / September 6, 2023
Please provide details of these reputable scholars. You are the one who is bullshitting. Nasty man.
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Sinhala_Man / September 7, 2023
Dear Rohan25,
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SJ is probably right on this. Ponnambalam Arunachalam appears to have been somewhat of an MPC.
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The contrast with his brother, Ponnambalam Arunachalam, seems to be valid. Rajan and Kirupa Hoole say so in their book:
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https://www.ices.lk/event-details/democracy-stillborn-lankas-rejection-of-equal-rights-at-independence
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Panini Edirisinhe of Bandarawela, who doesn’t know any of these things at first hand.
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Fairmindedone / September 3, 2023
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Having enjoyed such warmth from the host community, it is cruel to depict Tamil Nationalism as evil, that is merely a linguistic nationalism.
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For the record, 1956 reconstructed federalism in India was essentially based on linguistic federalism in the non-Hindi sector.
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Trust the learned professor will provide an apology to all the Tamil speaking people in the island.
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SJ / September 4, 2023
fmo
Nehru resisted linguistic states as best as he could. But he had to yield eventually.
Language alone is not enough to define a nationality. Th three Punjabi-speaking groups assert separate identity.
Not long ago Andra split into two Telugu speaking states.
There is more than language to ethnicity.
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Pandi Kutti / September 4, 2023
The three Punjabi-speaking groups, the Hindu, Islamic and Sikh still identify correctly themselves as Punjabis and not as Arabs, Moors, Central Asians or anything else. Moreover, all three originate from Punjab and are not immigrants or refugees who came into the region, claiming to be Punjabi and now claiming to be something else. This was the reason when India and Pakistan were created the Punjab and Bengal region was divided on a religious basis as everyone there belonged to the region and were not recent immigrants or refugees. It is the same with Hindu and Muslim Bengalis, they still correctly identify themselves as Bengali and promote and protect the Bengali language. There is far greater Western and Central Asian heritage amongst Muslim Punjabis than the far below average Arab heritage found amongst Sri Lankan Tamil Muslims and it is the same with many Muslim Bengali and Malayali Muslims, however they still proudly identify themselves as Punjabi, Bengali or Malayali.
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Pandi Kutti / September 4, 2023
It is the same with Andhra and Telangana, the Telugus from these regions belong to these regions and are not refugee immigrants. Both these Telugu groups still proudly identify themselves as Telugus and promote the Telugu language and culture, very different to the Sri Lankan Tamil Muslims who deny their actual Tamil culture and heritage and want to destroy Tamil and Tamil people and want to promote the alien Arabic language, Arab culture on stolen Tamil lands, where they arrived as refugees, a few centuries ago, claiming to be Tamil but now claim to be something else. Tamil 400 years ago and now Tamil hating fake Arabs or Moors. The Difference between a Telugu from Andhra and Telangana is similar to an Eezham Thamizh and South Indian Thamizh. There are 8 Hindi-speaking states, not based on religion but on cultural differences and vastness, and similarly, religion was not used to create Andhra and Telangana but cultural differences, both areas have Muslims and Christians too.
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SJ / September 4, 2023
Each of them considers itself distinct from the other and prefers separate existence.
Talk to a Sikh on the subject.
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Pandi Kutti / September 4, 2023
Yes, I closely move with Hindu Sikh( Indian) and Muslim Punjabi( Pakistani) and even with a Christian Punjabi, they may love a separate existence to some extent. Not so much the Hindu and Sikah Punjabis, as they closely intermarry and interconnect, but they all proudly identify themselves as Punjabi and with the Punjabi culture. For your information, Hindu and Sikh Punjabis easily intermarry and arrange marriages within their families and at one time, it was a custom amongst many Hindu Punjabi families to bring up one of their sons as a Sikh. Many Punjabis from both sides of the border still get along with each other and are very cordial and friendly towards each other and it is the same with the Bengali. My friend’ is a Sikh Punjabi and an ardent Sikh but he told me many of his first cousins in India are Hindu Punjabi.
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SJ / September 4, 2023
” separate existence to some extent.”
That is an inch closer to the truth than usual.
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Why did they want separate states in the first place? What was partition about? The biggest Pakistani community is Punjabi.
Enough BS about cousins.
There are many Tamils with Sinhalese relatives and vice versa.
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soma / September 5, 2023
SJ
People can be distinguished only on the basis of mother tounge .
Those who speak Tamil and those who speak Sinhala.
I have been always confused over how our legal system distinguish between a Tamil and a Sinhalese except on their own claim. Same goes for religion too for which there is no test to confirm.
In Sri Lanka those who speak Tamil ( those who cannot read or write Sinhala) experience enormous difficulties in dealing with the administration.
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Native Vedda / September 5, 2023
soma
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“In Sri Lanka those who speak Tamil ( those who cannot read or write Sinhala) experience enormous difficulties in dealing with the administration.”
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They are easy/soft target for intimidation, threat, violence, bribe, …. job preference, promotions, … you should know all the disadvantages associated with being none Sinhala/Buddhists.
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During riots police and armed forces supported the rioters, looters, ….
The library was burned down by thugs aided and abetted by Sinhala/Buddhist policemen.
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Tiran Allese’s approach to law and order, see three cases, Gajendran Ponnampalam, Kurundi fiasco, the saffronista sharing a room, …. how he handled these three incidents.
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According to former closet racist and outed Vithura Wickramanayakes in his recent statements, informed us that no one can stop the construction of viharas in the north-east.
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Well if that is the case could he explain to us why it is important to build Vihares in the first place (when people are starving), why particularly in North East, Why now, Why not in his own properties, in the front garden and in the back of the house or Pagoda’s on the roof of his residence?
I do not understand these …..
Do you?
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SJ / September 5, 2023
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There are plenty of nationalities the world over who speak English as their main language.
Will they all be of one nationality?
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soma / September 7, 2023
SJ
Context was Sri Lanka.
Sorry for my incomplete English.
Appreciate your immaculate logic.
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Pandi Kutti / September 7, 2023
Again trying to deliberately muddy the waters, Yes there are plenty of people of different racial origins who now speak English, French, Spanish, and Portuguese, Of course, no one calls them English, French, or Spanish. However, the Tamil-speaking Sri Lankan Muslims or Moors are of the same predominantly Tamil Dravidian origin as the island’s Tamils. A little bit of Arab Camel or Hyena in them does not make them an Arab, Camel or a Hyena, but maybe you do. Definitely, They are still Tamils, who profess Islam as their religion, just like the way you get Hindu Tamils, Christian Tamils, and Jain Tamils. Following Islam and a little bit of Arab in you does not make you Arab or Moorish. Just like the way a little bit of European or North Indian origin in some Tamil Christian and Hindu families does not make them European or North Indian. We are all still Tamil.
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old codger / September 6, 2023
Soma,
“People can be distinguished only on the basis of mother tounge .”
Surely one can tell a Nigerian from a Chinese without talking to them?
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soma / September 7, 2023
OC
Ask a tourist if he can distinguish between a Sinhalese, a Tamil and a Muslim.
If a man claims he is a Muslim in a court of law in Sri Lanka can the judge say “No, you are a Buddhist, you cannot marry two” ?
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old codger / September 7, 2023
Soma
There is a very easy way to distinguish a Muslim. I am so disappointed with you.😩😩
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / September 7, 2023
Yes, the tourist cannot distinguish them as they are all Dravidians and not Arabs or Aryans, as now being falsely claimed, with some of them having minor genetic inputs from other people.
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nimal fernando / September 3, 2023
What I could never understand was …….. most Muslim pols get elected from one party and within weeks, if not days, cross over …….. then there are lot of things I don’t understand about Lankan politics …….
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I feel, we must fix little things before bigger things ……. little things make bigger things …….
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Native Vedda / September 3, 2023
nimal fernando
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“I feel, we must fix little things before bigger things ……. little things make bigger things”
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How?
Say you want to buy a bomb irrespective of its religious affiliation, Islamic Bomb from Pakistan, Hindu Bomb from Hindia, Christian Bomb from US, UK,..Russia, Zionist Bomb from Israel, Capitalist Maoist Atheist, …… Bomb from China, Mount Paektu…. bomb from North Korea, will you be tempted to drop it on Sri Lanka in order to fix little things, using a sledgehammer to crack a nut so to speak?
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SJ would be happy if you chose Chinese Bomb.
Sorry I couldn’t find any Buddhist Bomb.
Maybe Sri Lanka should develop one because USA has several.
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nimal fernando / September 7, 2023
“Chinese Bomb”
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Native,
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Did you ever criticise the American Bomb ……. the first to make it?
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You have a typical Lankan mind Native, …….. you think, only Whites can have the Bomb. :))
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Sinhala_Man / September 7, 2023
If it’s under Proportional Representation there should be absolutely no cross-overs.
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Think of where Diana Gamage came from, and what she now peddles!
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Cross-overs in First Past the Post almost never happens. But when they do, the MP rightly continues.
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Some MPs are overwhelmingly popular and can afford to be Independents.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Corbyn
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He’s been an excellent Constituency MP. A man with principles. Now to counter what I say, don’t tell me that he’s divorced twice!
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / September 3, 2023
First of all the so-called Muslim identity on the island is strictly a religious identity and not an ethnic or racial identity as many of them falsely try to portray, by using the little bit of Arab that a few hundred families amongst them have as a blanket origin and identity for the entire community. These families will not make up even 5% of the island’s Muslims and even they are of predominantly Tamil Dravidian origin and heritage. The Sri Lankan Muslims are South Indian Tamil Dravidian immigrants whose ancestors converted to Islam, largely around 1000 years ago in their South Indian Tamil homeland. A little bit of Arab or other origin in them still does not make them anything else, they are still Tamils. Even Dr Ameer Ali stated the term ” Moor” used by the Portuguese for them, was not in relation to their ethnicity, origin or race but in relation to their religion. The Tamil Dravidian element is them is around 90% minimum and all other ancestries and origins in them will be 10% the most if I am generous.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / September 3, 2023
However due to politics and to divide the rule of the island’s Tamils, first the British and then the Sinhalese deliberately encouraged the island’s Muslim elite and politicians, who had their own selfish agenda for political and economic power to create this new identity based solely on their religion and to justify this separation from the rest of the Tamils, claim a blanket Arab/Moorish and other origins for the island’s Muslims, that only a few of them partially had. To be fair to the British, they never took this Arab or Moorish origin seriously, other than nominally calling them Moors, for all other intents and purposes they lumped them with the Tamils. It is only after independence that all Sinhalese-led governments colluded with the largely selfish and power-hungry Muslim Tamil elite, deliberately encouraging this identity based on a fake origin and a religion, to divide and rule and use the island’s Tamil Muslims now called Moors as a tool to suppress the island’s Tamils and muddy the waters, especially in the Tamil east and even in the north and Puttlam, in order to deny the island’s Tamils their just rights and their homeland.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / September 3, 2023
They used these Muslim politicians and are still using them to create hatred and fear towards their non-Muslim fellow Tamils, and to hate their own actual Tamil origin and rich 1000-year-old Tamil Islamic heritage, using religion and this fake Arab origin. In order to further distance the island’s Muslims from their Tamil origin and heritage Arabisation was actively encouraged by the Sri Lankan state and the Muslim elite until it even backfired on the Sinhalese in April 2019. A person has a right to a separate identity, but this identity should be based on facts and not on fiction and myths, to deliberately create rifts, fears and anger. The Sri Lankan Muslims have this right to but should be correctly identified as Muslim Tamils or Tamil Muslims, not Moors, Arabs or anything else, as they are not or hardly have this heritage. This is like someone lumping all the island’s Christian Sinhalese and Tamils with the small Eurasian Burgher community, calling them Burghers and giving them a blanket European ancestry. This is what has been deliberately done to the island’s Muslims.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / September 3, 2023
The 95% Tamil Dravidian Muslim masses have been lumped with the 5% who have some partial Arab or other Western Asian origin but are still of predominantly Tamil heritage and called Moors or whatever and given a blanket Arab heritage, to justify their religion and not their actual ethnicity now being used as their main identity. It is not the Tamils but the Muslims who are mainly responsible for this rift, as from the time of independence, all Muslim politicians and their elite had colluded with all Sinhalese-led governments, to deny the island’s Tamils their just rights with regard to language, education and employment and were the junior partners of the Sinhalese with regards to the marginalisation, ethnic cleansing and war crimes committed on the island’s Tamils, especially in the ancient Tamil east where they only arrived as refugees around 400 years ago fleeing Portuguese and then Sinhalese persecution, claiming to be fellow Tamils not even as Muslim Tamils and were given refuge on that basis. Now conniving and colluding with the Sinhalese to dispossess the eastern Tamils of their own homeland and create an Islamic state there. The Sinhalese have no intention of giving them any homeland but are using them as a tool to muddy the waters in the east and deny the Tamils their eastern homeland.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / September 3, 2023
It is because of all these anti-Tamil activities and the killing of innocent Tamil civilians in the east by Islamic Homeguards that the LTTE was forced to act and not the other way around as now being widely portrayed.
72% of the island’s Muslims live in the Sinhalese south and only 28% of them in the Tamil areas, largely in the east, mostly living along the coastal Amparai belt. It is funny they that do not want Islamic homelands in the Sinhalese areas or any form of self-rule, in these areas, where they are now facing constant discrimination and violence but aided and abetted by the Sinhalese, they want all these in the Tamil East and if possible even in the Tamil north, where they and not the Tamils who instigated 90% of the violence and rift all based on their religion and this fake Arab origin and the alien Gulf Arab culture, that they have recently embraced. Unlike in the Sinhalese areas, they share the same language and ethnicity with their fellow non-Muslim Tamils but want an Islamic state and the ancient Tamil east over the heads of the native indigenous Tamils and Tamilised Vedda Hindus who had lived here for more than 3000 years and ruled these lands and gave them refuge as fellow Tamils, 400 years ago.
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AYATHURAY RAJASINGAM / September 3, 2023
Muslim is not a race. They are Tamil speaking people. For instance people in Pakistan call themselves as Pakistanis. Likewise in Afganistan they call themselves as Afgans, in Malaysia as Malays, in Egypt as Egyptians, in Libya as Libyans, etc. 13th Amendment is for the benefit of Sinhala and Tamil speaking people. G.Parthasarathy was very careful in drafting the Indo-Sri Lanka Peace Accord and 13th Amendment is a bi-product of the Peace Accord. Moreover, the main aim of the Peace Accord was to prevent terrorism arising in the region, especially when Wahabbism was rearing its ugly head in the Eastern Province. It even applies to the LTTE.
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SJ / September 4, 2023
“It is because of all these anti-Tamil activities and the killing of innocent Tamil civilians in the east by Islamic Homeguards that the LTTE was forced to act “
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Even the late LTTE leader would not have uttered such falsehood.
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Mahila / September 5, 2023
JRJ’s ‘program’ of Marginalisation of Tamils, to deny legitimate rights!!!
JRJ, also was the person who alienated the ‘Colombo Chetties’, who were Tamils, distinguishing as a separate Race!!!
“Thambi Mudali’s” stratagem overcome issues rising from his language policy??? Very similar to Sirimavo and Buddy allowing Muslims, with mother tongue Tamil, to study in English or even Sinhala as medium of instruction!!!
Convoluted, inconsistent policies all around, including Finance has brought us to this decadent position!!!???
Now that almost all of that culpable events have gone to rest permanently, let us wish them a peaceful rest in their permanent ABODE, of their CHOICE!!!????
May they be pardoned of all sins committed in this sinful world and best outcomes, hereafter!!!
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Pandi Kutti / September 4, 2023
Why are the Thullukans afraid of the Thamizh in the north and east? Is it because of all the atrocities and war crimes, they committed on them joining and conniving with the Chingkallams from the time of independence and even given the chance even now? I think the answer is yes. Remember the heavily armed Islamic home guards, who killed raped and ethically cleansed Thamizh Hindu villages in the east? The thugs and criminals sent by Minister Mohammed, at the request of President JR Jayawardene to Kalminai to start problems in the east in 1985? Muslim thugs and criminals joined Chingkalla mobs to kill, rape and loot Thamizh homes and businesses down south during every state-sponsored pogrom, especially in 1983. Then like opportunistically buying lands and business from fleeing Thamizh in Colombo and other areas down south for dirt cheap prices? Remember all the spying for the Chingkalla armed forces and storing arms inside mosques in the north, that forced LLTE to act against them, storing arms for what? No one did anything to them and treated them well in the north despite all that they did to the Thamizh down south and in the eastern Thamizh homeland when they arrived as refugees, claiming to be Thamizh.
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Pandi Kutti / September 4, 2023
Remember all Muslim politicians and elite, who connived with the Chingkallams and laughed at the plight of their fellow non-Muslim Thamizh, especially Badudeen Mohammed( how can we forget him) who connived with the Chingkallams and introduced standardisation and regional basis for higher education to keep out Thamizh, especially from prestigious science courses. The Muslims joined dancing on the streets and enacting victory parades in May 2009, when over 147000 Thamizh civilians were deliberately killed in the Vanni, and over 300000 were incarcerated in Nazi-like war camps and war crimes committed on them? How can we forget all these from these actions from these immigrant South Indian Dravidian converted fake Arab turncoats, who came to our land begging for refuge as fellow Thamizh and then turned out to become our worst nightmare. Starting to backstab and connive with the Chingkallams to destroy us. Lastly, we cannot forget the Shaitan from Mannar who was settling out of the area and even foreign Muslims, using funds obtained from certain Islamic states, on the pretext of settling displayed northern Muslims, along the Wilpattu corridor, where they never lived, destroying the forest. 60000 northern Muslims left and miraculously most of them never wanted to return but another 300000 from somewhere being settled to deliberately create new Islamic homelands in the north.
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Pandi Kutti / September 4, 2023
How can we also forget Hechuballah from the east, who destroyed an ancient Hindu Temple in the east and built a supermarket and a beef stall on this site for the benefit of local Muslims. Was busily Arabizing Muslim major towns in the east, especially Kattankudi by planting date palms and with Arabic sign boards and changing ancient Thamizh place names to Arabic eg. Saddam Hussein village( smile) . Do not forget the huge Sharia, Islamic university in the east, that he was building with funds obtain by certain Gulf Arab nations, in a Thamizh Hindu area on 200-400 acres of Thamizh Hindu land that was donated for this purpose by the then Rajapussy government, to deliberately marginalize and dispossess the eastern Thamizh who are the real owners of the east, and to complete the Arabization and Wahhabi Islamization of the Thamizh Muslim population of the east by deliberately weaning them of their Thamizh language and Thamizh Islamic culture and changing their language to Arabic and their culture to Gulf Arab Salafist Wahhabi Islamic, there were at the cusp of achieving all, until it all backfired in April 2019, and the Chingkallams realized what they had executed as a tool to marginalize, discriminate and dispossess the island’s Thamizh and deny them their just rights and lands, is now also coming to bite them.
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SJ / September 4, 2023
That is more than enough venom fie a week.
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SJ / September 4, 2023
That is more than enough venom for a week.
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Pandi Kutti / September 4, 2023
Yes, the truth is venom for a self-hating biased Thamizh like you, who constantly spits out anti-Tamizh venom here, defending Chingkalla racists and fake Arab South Indian origin Thulluka Islamic extremists. All the anti-Thamizh vomit they let out here is like nectar to you.
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SJ / September 4, 2023
You are pathetic!
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Rohan25 / September 4, 2023
Well, then you should love it as you are venomous, especially towards your own people, for some reason known only to you.
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Mallaiyuran / September 4, 2023
” enough venom
Venom?
Really?
Are you finding difficulties to locate the word you are fishing in Google?
Wants some fresh air? Vinotham! (Wondrous)
“Mangai Paal Undu Malaimel Irupporukku Thenkai Paal Etharkadi Kutmapai?”
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SJ / September 4, 2023
“Mangai Paal”
Why do you go for milk from a female (mangai) breast?
Who is Kutmapai? The female concerned?
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Mallaiyuran / September 4, 2023
Muslims leaders must ponder within themselves if they have any problems and if so what to do with it. After the breakage of Muslim – Sinhala union (2019) that mustered the past 75 years the politics of Appe Aanduwa, Muslim Leadership is struggling & swaying in the flow of the river flood without a twig (a political object) to hold. Lending for full control over their actions and inaction to the Sinhala Buddhists extremist, Muslims leadership stand as hollow tree or a naked beggar in the middle of the hurricane path, the Langkang politics. It was only Sinhala Viyathmaha who always instructed the Muslim leadership that if they have a problem or if all their matters are solved. Muslim Leadership just conveys that message to Muslim masses. Muslim electorates politics is about selling the Sinhala extremism like “We will make Tamils blood flow in North East” or printing a TN cinema sexy actress half nude picture as Trinco Shanmuga school Tamil, Hindu teacher, in social media. When fashion bugs and hardware stores started to go on fire only, they realized that even reporting those vandalism to Sinhala Police would strain their “Ondukirukira politics with Sinhala Buddhist Intellectuals”.
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Mallaiyuran / September 4, 2023
When the Aluthgama riots flared up, rogue Hakeem was sitting on a comfy sofa in a basement and told his surrounded supporters, “We are duped my friends”. But the crook is still remaining not corrected, but more spoiled by having him substantiated by Hezbollah, Haris, Ahamed Nazeer….. like notorious souls. Muslims are nowhere near to have a genuine political leadership, even if the Langkang start to steer in honest politics. As per Old Rowdy Royals, Rishard alone grabbed 5,000 acres land in Vanni and still land cases on him not fully excused by the Sinhala leaders (Or the corrupted courts). In the light of that please note “in Batticaloa District where Muslims account for 30 percent of the population are locked within a land area of approximately 20 km2 which is less than one percent of the total area of that district. “ Less than 30 % of the population wants the Eastern province declared as Muslim Tani Alaku but they are in 1% of the Batti district, the mainland in the East.
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Mallaiyuran / September 4, 2023
Muslim leadership joining with Sinhala Buddhist extremists and planting Jihadis in their communities and creating problems for Tamils will not be their problem, it is only a problem to Tamils. If there is one Muslim gentleman, he should come forward stop the Aanduwa which used Muslim clergy to convert to Islam a fatherless, abandoned by mother girl, who had entered medicine and forcefully married to a well known Jihadi. Then the girl had sent messages to the mother in Middle East who still maintained connection with the Muslim clergy that her new man was engaging to terrorism. Mother passed that message to Langkang. Now the Aanduwa is framing that the girls were making bombs on her own, and the leader’s wife did know that, but she was hiding that fact from the authorities. This framing is to keep the woman inside without anything to show that she was actively helping the leaders who planted bombs on a government organized Jihadism. “Ondukirukira politics” of Muslims in not allowing one man out of that community to ask the government, “why are doing this heinous act”, but tried hard to bury the Jihadis in Hindu cemeteries to prove that the Jihadis were only re-skinned Tigers, but the Langkang Muslims are only clean Arabians, no Tamils Tigers.
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Mallaiyuran / September 4, 2023
If their community has any problem, the Muslim leadership, in democratic style, must explain the problem to Muslim community. They must ask Muslim community if they want their politics be managed by the Sinhala Parties and they ask for minister posts from Sinhala Parties or they stay out of the Sinhala Parties and ask for a minister position from Muslim parties. They service Sinhala Buddhists Extremist political parties in Colombo for “Ondukirukira politics” and go back Kathankudi to form Muslim Political parties to ask for Muslim only Thani Alaku and they think Sinhala Buddhist intellectuals as only simple Modayas? They can ask for minister positions for perks, but they must understand how much influence the extremely powerful Sinhala Buddhists Political party can have on their course and path. Minister perk is the wage for Muslim leadership to perform some services for the Sinhala Viyathmaga, Like the 4/21 bombing. In reality, the Muslim leadership’s minister positions and the perks is new growing disruption of the life to the Muslim community. In other words, Muslim community’s main problem is Muslim leadership getting perks from Sinhala RavanaLE Aanduwa and selling Muslim community has turned into be a pain on the community’s neck.
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Mallaiyuran / September 4, 2023
What the latest Muslim leader’s main speech in the Muslim stages is that the “Tamils are getting a solution, but we are standing actionless”. Currently do the Muslim Leadership look for any solution for any problem or are they helping the Sinhala Buddhists extremists on their drama of pretending that they are mulling a solution for Tamils,” until the IMF loan is fully milked”? The Muslim Ministers who planned and staged the 4/21 for Sinhala extremists were left out by the UNP-SLFP Union, from the Appe Aanduwa joint venture, after the 2019 election victory. With the leadership of Nazeer Ahmed, Hezbollah & Harris, the SLMC & All Ceylon Muslim Congress insulted Evil and Rowdy Royals, after the 4/21. So now these barking Muslim Parties’ tails have been cut off from the Muslim- Sinhala government partnership. Hakeem is still not ready to set up a straight course to Muslims to travel, but he is demanding from Evil for negotiation on a “standardization class solution for Muslims” in the coming “Mirage Secret Solution”. One cannot see even in the most uneducated corners of the world, Langkang style such notorious cheating politics by the leaders, without feeling any shame.
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Mallaiyuran / September 4, 2023
Hakeem Modaya seems not to be able to understand the past deals of Banda-Chelva Pact, Dudley – Chelva pact, Indo – Lanka pact’s stories. His demand is, out of the fresh pound flesh from Anthony’s thigh, reserve ¾ for Muslims. He knows that Tamils can beg, showing the beggar’s wound. He knows well that Tamils are unlikely to get anything, same as the last 75 years’ earlier occasions. What he possibly is trying is showing the calf (Tamils’ beggar wound talks) and have milked the cow, but before the calf gets any drop. I doubt this time Evil will succumb to Hakeem’s technique like Moda woman Sri Ma O did that time. UNP-SLFP don’t need Muslim parties’ leaders anymore because the war with Tamils is over. Period! Muslim leaders must see some alternatives or later curse themselves like the Tamil leaders who placed confidence in and submitted them to Don Stephen, Solomon West Ridgeway Dias and Sir Ma O.
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Mallaiyuran / September 4, 2023
Muslim ministers within the UNP-SLFP do not wash as heavily as the Muslim parties’ coolies. So, currently, those Muslim Ministers in the Sinhala Political parties, like Ali or Kabir, are not doing too much washing as Harris, Nazeer Ahmed, like comedians. But they are still maintaining enough influence within the parties where they are currently in, to look after their wealth.
In the long future to come, provided Tamils miserably failed on their self-determination rights, anything assured is only for the Sinhala Buddhists, inside the Langkang. The victory in war was not just good for them to celebrate locally with firecrackers and Kiribath for the years to come but it has elevated Sinhala Buddhist Intellectuals as equal bargainers or partners within the world superpowers.
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Mallaiyuran / September 4, 2023
China restarted the $4.5B Sinopec contract in Hangbangtota. Remember, it was China that sent Langkang to bankruptcy for People’s Bank withholding the LC remittance to the rejected & returned Chinese poop. Sinopec is expanding its project in Hangbangtota, But India could not do anything more than few windmills in Mannar. The local Media reported that Evil put Rajnath Singh, the Indian defense minister’s visit on hold (The Hindu reported it was canceled) on the Chinese spy ship matter. Remember, just few months ago, India was postponing like forever the Evil’s visit to Delhi on loan restructuring? Now India is taught with the same breadth blow – “Sariyasanam” with India (Equal Throne). Mr. Solheim (during war he refused to do anything beyond Sonia ordered) has negotiated $12B funding for Environmental matters. We don’t know the basis if it is loan or grant. So, if India is not cooperating on renegotiating its $4.5B emergency funding, Langkang will fully write it off, no question can be asked. The American government is suppressing a court case against Langkang by a private investment Bank (Hamilton Reserve Bank) lending $250M, at the court level. This is telling that the war victory has made the superpowers work on Langkang’s term, not on theirs.
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soma / September 5, 2023
Mallaiyuran
Those windmils in Mannar you are talking about are manufactured in China or India?
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Mallaiyuran / September 4, 2023
Muslims leaders and paramilitaries, worked as spies for Aanduwa in the Tamils’ freedom war, are now forcefully made to sleep in their perceived race with Tamils for Thani Alaku. The way Langkang smashes the superpowers with steady victories, Muslim leadership rabbits are nowhere to Appe Aanduwa, though only a hopelessly slow tortoise. Haris and Ahamad sheepishly think that they can topple the Sinhala Intellectual on Aappa Diplomacy game.
After the war, Langkang Aanduwa was enabled by 32 nations to put any powerful nation so easily on hold, on their demand for attention from the Sinhala Buddhist Intellectuals. Tamils did know this for a long time, and they always treat their freedom fight as a work in progress that means it can take another 75 years or even eternity. Tamils know it is always suspicious, in a world, (where self-interest is first), work with them in the name of Human right or justice, ignoring their internal interest.
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Mallaiyuran / September 4, 2023
The first step for civilized Muslims is to liberate them from the hold of Sinhala Intellectuals is to free their women from MMDA; that is how the Sinhala Intellectuals can stop ever enslaving the Muslim leaders, showing the inhuman MMDA as their sword. Then sit with the minority opposition in the parliament, after the election and peeling the masks of the Aanduwa thieves, instead of sitting with the majority & carrying the torches for them to steal their own community (Muslims). Hakeem licked the Rowdy Royals, and he heinously declared in UNHRC it was under the Royals rule “Muslims living the happiest life”. Do one think that this kind of talk and act can save Muslims forever, instead of these foul leaders bringing out the Muslims’ discrepancies (if any) on the international arena and asking for justice? Time for Muslim leaders to realize, under the chauvinism of the Sinhala Buddhists, destroying Tamils with tools like standardization or working for the Rapist Army as Paramilitary is simple but securing a decent life for Muslims is not that easy!
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soma / September 5, 2023
Mallaiyuran
Your comments are are too long.
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Soma
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Paul / September 4, 2023
A great pity that there is so much communal hatred in these columns. In fact there is more hatred here than in Tamil, Sinhala, Muslim society. A lesson –
https://www.dailymirror.lk/opinion/BUDDHIST-PRELATE-MUCH-ADORED-BY-TAMIL-PEOPLE/172-265591
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SJ / September 4, 2023
Paul
Sadly this space is dominated by racist bigots. Some spew communal venom and most others shamelessly preserve silence unless it hurts their racist sentiments.
Sad to say the majority are Tamils.
Most of the Sinhalese and Muslim racists have moved out.
But they unite on one thing: they are all utterly right wing.
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Pandi Kutti / September 5, 2023
You are no exception, as you constantly spit out venom against your fellow Thamizh. , always supporting Chingkalla racists and Islamic extremists. Go and look at your self first. A very biased person, who wants his own people to be damned. What is stated may sound shocking nasty and venomous to you, however, this is the truth and this is what the island’s immigrant South Indian origin, fake Arab Muslims did to the Thamizh from the time of Independence up to now and will continue to do so, all in the name of Islam and an imagined Arab ancestry that they hardly have. Stating the truth and what really happened is not racism. The bare facts stated shocks you but when it really happened did not shock you. The Islamic extremists and Chingkalla racists do not have a leg to stand on with their lies myths and all the atrocities and war crimes they committed on the island’s Thamizh in the name of Chingkalla Buddhism and opportunistic fake Arab Islamic extremism.
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Pandi Kutti / September 5, 2023
The Thamizh remain, as this site is one of the few forums, strangely run by very good Chingkallams where they can bravely state the shocking truth that happened to them. If it sounds racist, shocking and rightwing to you, then it is your problem, as you cannot digest the truth of all the horrible things done the Thamizh at these people’s hands. You just want to gloss over it and do not want to come to terms with the truth. We already have three failed states in South Asia exporting Islamic extremism and now you want to create a fourth one on stolen Eezham Thamizh land, for immigrant refugees who arrived stating they were Thamizh and now not Thamizh but Islamic Wahhabi Arabs. What are they butterflies or frogs or toads metamorphosing from one identity or form to another?
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Ajith / September 6, 2023
Sadly SJ is trying to brand all those who highlight the brutality of Buddhist Sinhala Fundamentalism because he was always on the side Buddhist Sinhala Fundamentalism. It is his master who brought Buddhist Fundamentalism into the constitution.
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SJ / September 6, 2023
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It is not the brutality of the Sinhala racists or Tamil racists that is the issue raised by Paul.
The kind of communal hatred that is poured out is what bothers him.
Examine the wording of comments in references to people of another identity. Even you indulge in such at times.
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Focus on the issue than on the person.
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Pandi Kutti / September 5, 2023
Stating the truth, however shocking and nasty is not hatred only hiding it and glossing over it, just like the way Neo-Nazis and Islamic extremists do and silently supporting it is hatred. Maybe this is what you want, hide and gloss over all the injustices and atrocities done on the Thamizh in the name of fake Aryan Chingkalla Buddhist fascism and fake Arab Wahhabi Islamic fanaticism. It is shocking to you but this is what really happened so where were you when all this happened? Did you and your friend SJ cry out against it? The answer is no. Sat and watched and silently supported it in the name of Chingkalla Buddhism or Wahhabi Islam fake Arab origin. Now trying to shoot the messengers who are coming out with the truth and facts and calling them racist, when you sat quietly and watched the real racists and fanatics creating havoc and still doing the same thing. For wounds to heal the truth must be told and acknowledged.
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Native Vedda / September 6, 2023
Paul
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Ven. Brahmanawatte Dhammakiththi Tissa Mahanayaka Thera was born in 1915 before Anagarika Homeless Dharmapala’s madness engulfed the island. He was a Buddist and a Sinhalese not the Sinhala/Buddhism most crooks, murderers, … aspire to follow.
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SJ / September 6, 2023
“He was a Buddhist “
Check it out. He was a Christian convert to Buddhism.
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Mahila / September 7, 2023
SJ,
Absolutely true. They are Better Buddhists. Agree wholeheartedly! Feel, they see the value of the belief they have adopted than the originals, which amounted to “free bees.”!!!??? Human Trait!!!??? When they BUY into it, the ‘Soul Search’, is perhaps more INTENSE!!
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old codger / September 7, 2023
SJ,
“He was a Christian convert to Buddhism.”
Interesting…
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SJ / September 7, 2023
Not many took notice of it.
He did it after marrying a Buddhist female.
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soma / September 5, 2023
Mallaiyuran
Those windmils in Mannar you are talking about are manufactured in China or India?
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Mallaiyuran / September 5, 2023
Somu,
For a talk it was imported from China to India and installed in Ceylon. India import from China three times more than exports to China. So, your contention of that these are China windmills is good to start the talk. As I am a capitalist, free-trade guy, it was only people’s products. That is the world trade; we import from India, India imports from China, Then Chinese tourist come and spend in Ceylon. But when a White-Elephant contract is done by China, a pound of Anthony’s flesh distributed from CT’s Sadampi to Rowdy Royal’s Old Beauty Queen and that a part goes to ICRC too. This is not free trade, this complete destruction of Appuhamy, Arumugam & Abdullah. That is the part I oppose. Lankaweyans cannot make anything and Sinhala Buddhist UNP_SLFP team will not allow that. So only is to import, for people to survive. So we support the channel where a pound of flesh of Anthony is not widely distributed like how it is taking place in Langkang. Langkang is $80B. Accounting is calculated with a method of Cash in Cash out. Langkang owes $85B. So, what is the worth Appuhamy + Arumugam + Abdullah? Don’t you agree the simple answer is -$5B.
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Mahila / September 7, 2023
Absolute Hit on the HEAD -Cracking!!!!??? Or Fracking??? Whatever Suits??????
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Mallaiyuran / September 5, 2023
But out of the $85B loan the Royal UNP & SLFP invest in Langkang is $55B. That means foreign sovereign bonds are $30B. That is telling the Royal UNP and SLFP Muthalalies are holding the Appuhamy, Arumugam, & Abdullah’s future generations for a hostage money of $55B. But in contrast, while they are holding the working class and poor Ceylonese as future hostages, these Appuhamy elected rulers wrote off the EPF loan.
In Economics loan is not the question as long as the loan can generate back its value (need not be more than that, but it is good more. Economics says if the income from loan is more than the loan, there is an indication that the people need more loan so borrow more.) But our question is what happened to $400B spent on the name of wiping out Arumugams? You understand that is not part of country’s economy, but theft, racketeering, looting, corruption … in the name of pollical liberation from Tamils and the 75 years ago left past colonialists.
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Native Vedda / September 6, 2023
soma
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“Those windmils in Mannar you are talking about are manufactured in China or India?”
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It doesn’t matter if a cat is black or white so long as it catches mice. – Deng Xiaoping
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As long as these windmills produce electricity unlike Champika’s Chinese built Lakvijaya (Norocholai) Coal Fired Power Plant which rarely works, rarely produces electricity, ….. then everything is tickety-boo (in good order; fine).
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Did you watch Channel 4’s dispatches?
Do you think Easter Sunday bombing never occurred, all western propaganda influenced by diaspora?
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SJ / September 6, 2023
“rarely produces electricity”
Rarely accurate.
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Mahila / September 7, 2023
SJ,
“Rarely produces electricity; Rarely accurate”???
Agree with you.
Whilst that being the case, UNFORESEEN AND INDETERMINATE OCCASIONING of POWER FAILURES (PF) by NCCP 1, 2. An 3 does not portend Investors’ confidence even pre-planned PF’s??? Nay, the reverse is the truth, wouldn’t have adequate confidence of recouping Return on Investments (RoI)
May be our Exalted Past President and his coterie, not believe on Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) and Importantly ‘RoI’ before spilling money, into bottomless hole!!!??? Or loans, using Credit liberally with ill-effects!!!??
The Foreign Development Investors (FDI’s) aren’t so generous, accommodating towards such liberties!!!??? Why would they???
It’s their hard-earned money, savings or funds, and therefore as they should be Commercially prudent in Investment – KEY sustainable RoI of project, comfort of continuity!!!??? You’ll be surprised How many Investors have left this Island??? And, why scores of them are hesitant to Invest or” PULL-THE-PLUG”, if already invested!!!
At this rate and if circumstances persist of 5 or now 7-star invitations for DINNER/SUPPER and demands for commissions are preventing Investors away to other South Asian and Southeast Asian destinations!!!???
Countries, independent after us and warring for the better part of 75 years have beaten SL!!? Why??
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soma / September 7, 2023
SJ, NV
Let us read Mallaiyuran’s response to my comment and get some education.
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Mahila / September 7, 2023
NV,
“As long as these windmills produce electricity unlike Champika’s Chinese built Lakvijaya (Norrichholai) Coal Fired Power Plant (NCCP) which rarely works, rarely produces electricity, ….. then everything is tickety-boo (in good order; fine)”
Whilst, Champika, line Minister, he wasn’t throwing, ‘Tantrum’, in “Grand Old Walauwe’, located Southern Tip of Sri Lanka regarding LACK OF 20% recognition for GO-AHEAD, of Project!!??
Thus started the conundrum, “TO PAY? Or NOT TO PAY” the demanded 20% made after the CONTRACT PRICE was SIGNED, SEALED and FIRST SOD CEREMONIOUSLY CUT, Golden Mammotty!?
The Benefactors or Creditors, whatever the case may be, had only ‘ONE WAY’!!!?? PAY or LOSE!!??
The cunning as they come, they did the next best thing, that seemed affordable – Keep fire Kindled!?
Replace one existing Chinese Coal Power Plant (CCPP), nearing ‘END OF TERM’ economical operation – Brand NEW unit destined for NCCP 1!!!???
Refurbish/Replace of “Operational Wear, Ship for NCCP Installation!!!??? All-Chinese Erection/Installation, sealed Sri Lankans finding out – NCCP 1 project Start-up!?
They negotiated NEW PRICING & CONTRACT – NCCP 2 & 3 with ‘The Messiah’ – agreed as “TOAST BUTTERED (20%) BOTH SIDES”!!!
The Messiah went Ugandan BANK, LAUGHING!!!
NCCP 1 malfunctioned Mostly!!!??? Proof of Pudding – is in the Eating!?
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Mahila / September 7, 2023
NV,
Part II – Continued NCCP 1, 2, & 3
The Chinese “Amba Yaluwas” recovered their out-of-pocket expenses of 20% to continue and sustain relationship with the renegotiate price for NCCP 2 & 3, they too went happy to their Chines EXIM Bank, though somewhat Glum Faced knowing that their granting previously in respect of BMICH and Supreme court complex as grant was in VAIN!!!
The Sri Lankans were left with NCCP 1, which wasn’t NEW, but “REFURBISHED NEW”!!!??? The difference is that WHILST CONSUMABLES AND ROTATING OR MOVING PARTS HAVE BEEN TOTALLY REPLACED OR REBUILT to original specifications, the balance has been perhaps SHOT-BLASTED and REPAINTED to GLOSS and MESMERISE the Lankans and ‘fool’ them into “MAKE-BELIEVE”!!!???
Chinese have long been good friends, probably from the time of Ming dynasty or even before!?
So WHOM does anyone HOLD RESPONSIBLE for this DASTARDLY CHEATING under their watch AS PATRIOTIC GUARDIANS of this GREAT THRICE BLESSED NATION!?
Champika???? Nay, resolutely NOT him!!! Then who is accountable???
YOUR GUESS is as GOOD as MINE!!!
ME HAZARDING Guess??? If, I ever do, All options on the table!? No EXCEPTION, whatever, Ponder, Elicit Truth & Facts, wouldn’t rule-out those ACCLAIMED BY VOTERS, AS PASSIONATE LEADERS!?
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soma / September 7, 2023
NV
Channel 4 video is an attempt to save Allah.
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Soma
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Liger / September 6, 2023
Remove 13A from the constitution. BJP/Modi have nothing to fear/be concerned about as Lanka will forever be grateful to Bharat’s help in eviscerating the ltte (created by TN). Tamil Nadu will never be in a position to secede from Bharat – there are strong attempts by diaspora and TN politicians to breakaway even at this moment. Ranil’s attempts to bring in Hindi and Chinese language-learning are steps in the right direction to balance our relations with Bharat and China.
Remove provinces and use administrative system that Singapore uses.
Make Sinhala the national language and have English and Tamil as official languages across the island and not just in some corner (analagous to how the UK operates with English as national language and Gaelic, Welsh etc as recognized official languages).
Retain Buddhism as the state religion (analogous to how Malaysia operates even though 20% of that nation is Buddhist but Islam is the state religion).
After that, its just ECONOMY, ECONOMY, ECONOMY.
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Mahila / September 7, 2023
“After that, its just ECONOMY, ECONOMY, ECONOMY”
Then the PAYMASTER would be HAPPY TO SOURCE AND DIVERT INVESTMENTS TO UGANDA, when USD inflow swells, whilst making Sri Lanka a “Hotch Potch” of Singapore, Malaysia and The UK!!!???
Why not??? That’s a very good idea and commendable!!! Why not? Who will give it INSPIRATION!?
The Messiah is kept Happy, whilst Ceylon Cafe in Uganda Thrives with newly sourced funds!!!
GREAT!!!!???
The Grand Party begins as The Messiah did Post May 2009 “Kissing the Soil” at BIA on arrival – 15 years ago – Reaped the fruits circa March 2022!!!???
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Pandi Kutti / September 7, 2023
The racist hybrid Chingkalla Buddhist Fascist, living the good life in the UK roars out his racist rubbish from there, in support of Chingkallam and Buddhism. The official and national languages of the island are Chingkallam and Thamizh, at least on paper and he now wants Thamizh to be relegated to a lower status. Whilst pretending to be tolerant.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / September 7, 2023
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / September 7, 2023
The story is different in Scotland. Historically, the vast majority of the Scots are lowland Scots and they never spoke Gaelic at all but spoke Scots, a sister language to modern English, as the two diverged independently from the same source: Early Middle English (1150–1300). Scottish Gaelic is only spoken now by a small minority in the highlands and surrounding islands. This is the reason English is the national language and both Welsh and English the official language is Wales as half a million Wlesh still speak Welsh in Wales. However 99% of the population in the UK use and speak English only. Vast difference. Good try. Why not compare Sri Lanka to a country like Switzerland where 63% speak German or Swiss German, 23% speak French, 8% Italian and a few thousand a Latin Dialect called Romansh, Where All four languages are national languages and German, French and Italian are give equal official language status.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / September 7, 2023
Sorry before dividing it into paras and posting my comment the whole thing got accidentally posted, when I pressed the space key in error
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Sinhala_Man / September 7, 2023
The government doesn’t seem to want us to watch this documentary.
https://www.dailymirror.lk/top-story/Govt-calls-for-constrained-response/155-266782
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I’ve googled for help, but it looks a though we have to pay. Fair enough. Nothing comes free, is the government’s own theme.
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We don’t even have money to feed ourselves.
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Panini Edirisinhe of Bandarawela in Uva, one of the poorest provinces in Sri Lanka..
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