Northern Provincial Council has adopted a resolution calls upon the Government of Sri Lanka to cooperate with the UN and allow the UN’s OHCHR Investigation on Sri Lanka team to enter the country.
M.K. Shivajilingam
The resolution was tabled by the Council Member M.K. Shivajilingam and adopted by the Northern Provincial Council, Sri Lanka on September 10, 2014.
“This Council calls upon the Government of Sri Lanka to cooperate with the UN and allow the UN’s OHCHR Investigation on Sri Lanka (OISL) team to enter the country to perform its mandate of comprehensively investigating the alleged serious violations and abuses of human rights, and crimes.” the resolution said.
K.A Sumanasekera / September 12, 2014
Peace loving people among the inhabitants can breath a sigh of relief that the SL Army and the Police are still in Jaffna.
This brings back memories of Solheim and Balasingham flying in and out of Iranamadu in Sea Planes to attend Board Meetings in Killinochchi….
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Saro / September 12, 2014
K A Sumanasekera,
You say “Peace loving people among the inhabitants can breath a sigh of relief that the SL Army and the Police are still in Jaffna”.
Where are you, do you live in the north or east or somewhere where there is no army occupation? The peace loving people who live and experience the harassment and intimidation by the SL army want the SL army leave or the worst confine to their barracks.
The SL refugees in India, Europe and IDPs in rest of Sri Lanka want to return to their homes. Their houses are occupied by the military. The military must leave and let the owners repossess their homes.
The people have expressed their wishes democratically by voting overwhelmly to TNA. If the SL government is still believe in democracy and respect the wishes of citizena who live in N-E let them live in peace.
Those people also want Tamil speaking SL police so that they can communicate without interpreters. THere are not enough Tamil speaking policemen/women in N-E.
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Kettikaran / September 12, 2014
President Rajapakse’s assertion in the “Hindu” with reporter Ms Haidar he cannot allow external inquiries and his asking whether India will allow a similar inquiry in Kashmir is childish. It is like comparing apples and oranges. The Indian Govt did not kill multiple tens of thousands of their own citizens and unable to account for them – or refuse to account for them. The Rajapakse conundrum is because these civilians were all killed and bodies burnt.
As usual, Rajapakse will be forced to yield. He would have done this by now but he and GR are mortally afraid of the combined forces of the army and the Sinhala supremacist cabal – a lethal combination. He is in that situation of Koti valgai (holding the tiger by the tail)
Kettikaran
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Native Vedda / September 14, 2014
Kettikaran
“The Indian Govt did not kill multiple tens of thousands of their own citizens and unable to account for them – or refuse to account for them”
Please read the report here:
The mass graves of Kashmir
Cathy Scott-Clark
The Guardian, Monday 9 July 2012 20.14 BST
For 22 years this contested region has endured a regime of torture and disappeared civilians. Now a local laywer is discovering their unmarked graves and challenging India’s abuses
One sodden evening in April 2010, an Indian army major from the 4 Rajputana Rifles arrived at a remote police post where the mountains gather in a half-hitch around Kashmir, India’s northernmost state. Major Opinder Singh “seemed in a hurry”, a duty policeman recalled. Up in the heights of the Pir Panjal range, down through which the major had descended, it was snowing and his boots let in water. “The officer reported that the previous night his men had killed three Pakistani terrorists who had crossed over into our Machil sector,” the policeman recalled. “Where are the bodies?” the policeman had asked, filling in a First Information Report that started a criminal enquiry. “They were buried where they were shot,” the major retorted, before taking off in his jeep.
“It was not unusual,” the policeman later told investigators, when questioned as to why he had not insisted on viewing the corpses or checking the identities. Kashmir had been in turmoil since Partition in 1947 and on a virtual war footing for the past two decades, with some estimates placing the dead at 70,000. Strung with razor wire and anti-missile netting, the state had been transformed into one of the most militarised places on earth, with one Indian paramilitary or soldier stationed for every 17 residents. The Pakistani intelligence services and military trained and funded a legion of irregulars, who infiltrated over the mountains to kick-start a full-blown insurgency in 1989, keeping the Indian-ruled portion of the Muslim-majority state permanently alight.
Once picture-perfect, a place of pilgrimage for backpackers and mystics of all religions, Kashmir had become one of the most beautiful and dangerous frontlines in the world. Machil, the sector in which Singh had sprung his operation, was especially treacherous, consisting of a clutch of isolated villages strung along the Line of Control (LoC), a high-altitude ceasefire line that had split Kashmir in 1972. Up here in the thin air, India had created a fearsome barrier, made lethal with the help of Israeli technology, a partially electrified series of fences connected to motion detectors, surrounded by a heavily mined no-man’s land.
On 30 April, 2010, an armed forces spokesman in Srinagar, Kashmir’s summer capital, confirmed Singh’s story. “Three militants have been killed in a shootout,” said Lieutenant Colonel JS Brar, detailing how three AK-47s, one Pakistani pistol, ammunition, cigarettes, chocolates, dates, two water bottles, a Kenwood radio and 1,000 Pakistani rupees had been recovered. The standard-issue infiltration kit. The corpseless triple-death inquiry was an open and shut case.
However, a few days later, at Panzalla police station, 30 miles from Machil, a simple missing case was causing everyone problems. Three Kashmiri families from nearby Nadihal village had turned up to report the disappearance of their sons: Mohammad, 19, Riyaz, 20, and Shahzad, 27, an apple farmer, a herder and a labourer. They had not seen them since 28 April and would not be calmed by detectives. Soon, their appeals drew the attention of Kashmir’s most dogged human rights lawyer, Parvez Imroz, whose response to what would become known as the “Machil Encounter” was about to create a watershed in Kashmir.
Dressed in the uniform of the Kashmiri bar, a crisp white shirt and sombre morning suit, over the past two decades Imroz had become a fixture at the high court in Srinagar, filing thousands of habeas corpus actions (which literally translates as “produce the bodies”) on behalf of families who claimed their relatives had vanished while in the custody of the Indian security forces.
These actions rarely succeeded, the Indian army insisting that the missing had flitted over the LoC to Pakistan, recalling historic scenes at the start of the insurgency that terrified New Delhi, when tens of thousands of young Kashmiris jumped aboard buses manned by youthful conductors shouting: “Pakistan, Pakistan here we come.” But what the writs did achieve was to create a paper trail from which Imroz was able to estimate that 8,000 Kashmiri non-combatants had vanished from army custody in a state the size of Ireland – four times more than disappeared under Pinochet in Chile. “The military grip has been suffocating,” he told the Guardian, “and making someone vanish sows far more fear than spilling their blood”.
Imroz had spent much of his career facing down security forces protected by specially drafted laws. Under the Armed Forces Special Powers Act, soldiers and paramilitaries enjoy total immunity from prosecution, unless the ministry of defence sanction their trial. Using new Right to Information (RTI) laws, Imroz obtained confirmation that despite the fact that hundreds of soldiers stood accused of murder, rape and torture, not a single case had proceeded. In contrast, Kashmiri citizens are dealt with using the Jammu & Kashmir Public Safety Act, under which they can be jailed, preventively, for two years, if deemed likely to commit subversive acts in the future, with an estimated 20,000 detained, according to Human Rights Watch.
Imroz’s campaigning achieved other things. He caught the attention of the UN, and this year Christof Heyns, a special rapporteur on extrajudicial executions, warned India that all of these draconian laws had no place in a functioning democracy and should be scrapped. The price for confronting the security forces and the militants they faced down was severe. In 1992, Imroz mourned the loss of his Hindu mentor, an activist who was gunned down by Muslim insurgents. Three years later, Imroz was driving home from court when he felt a cold draught grip his chest. “I slumped over the wheel, inexplicably,” he recalled. Bystanders who came to his rescue told him he had been shot. A militant group later claimed it was a case of mistaken identity. In 1996, the Indian army abducted Imroz’s friend and fellow lawyer, Jalil Andrabi, whose mutilated body was found after three weeks. Imroz shut himself off. For years he refused to marry or have children, worried they would be targeted. In 2002, his accomplished protégé, Khurram Parvez, a young Kashmiri graduate, was badly injured in an IED attack that killed his driver and a female colleague, Asiya Jeelani. Two years after that, a gunman posing as a client, shot dead another of Imroz’s legal allies. In 2005, when Imroz was awarded the Ludovic-Trarieux International Human Rights Prize, first given to Nelson Mandela, he was unable to accept it in person as India declined to issue him a passport.
But Imroz’s reputation began to build in the countryside, from where terrified villagers travelled to besiege his rickety chambers on the Bund, in central Srinagar, carrying with them stories. In 2008, these accounts enabled the lawyer to make his greatest discovery. While surveying disappearance cases in villages across two of Kashmir’s 23 districts, including Baramulla, from where the three Nadihal men would vanish in 2010, villagers showed him a hitherto unknown network of unmarked and mass graves: muddy pits and mossy mounds, pock-marking pine forests and orchards. According to eyewitnesses, all had been dug under the gaze of the Indian security forces and all contained the bodies of local men. Some were fresh, others decayed, hinting at a covert slaughter that went back many years.
Imroz widened his search, mapping almost 1,000 locations. He was shocked by the implications. Indian law requires that the police probe every violent death and that corpses be identified. But in the village of Bimyar, white-haired Atta Muhammad Khan came forward to describe how he had been forced to inter 203 unidentified bodies under cover of the night – men whose identities and crimes were unstated. “Some corpses were disfigured. Others were burnt. We did not ask questions.” It was a similar story in Kichama village, where the lawyer mapped 235 unmarked graves and in Bijhama, where 200 more unidentified corpses had been interred. In Srinagar, Imroz’s team alerted the government’s State Human Rights Commission (SHRC). “We suspected the missing of Kashmir were buried at these secret sites,” he said, publishing a report, Facts Under Ground.
An official response came two months later, just after 10pm on 30 June, 2008. Imroz had at last married Rukhsana, a business woman, and they now had two children, his daughter Zeenish, 12, and a boy, Tauqir, aged seven. The family lived in Kralpora, a tree-lined suburb eight miles from Srinagar city centre. No one called round on the offchance. Rukhsana heard a rap at the door and glanced outside to see that their security lights had been smashed. “I knew what this meant,” she said, the door knock immediately conjuring memories of murdered friends. Imroz ran to the back of the house and shouted for his brother, Sheikh Mushtaq Ahmad, who lived next door.
As Ahmad emerged with a torch, a shot was fired, narrowly missing his son. A stranger screamed: “Put that light out.” Then, a grenade exploded, shrapnel pitting the front door. Tear gas shells followed, waking neighbours who unlocked the village mosque. The imam mobilised residents to surround Imroz’s house, as an armoured vehicle and two jeeps from the paramilitary Central Reserve Police Force and police Special Task Force, took off. “They had come to kill us,” Rukhsana recalled. “We need protection,” she said. Who do you need protection from, I asked her. “From our own government of course. It’s jungle law.”
After the attack, Human Rights Watch called on India to “protect Parvez Imroz, an award-winning human rights lawyer” and his case was raised in the European parliament. His family pleaded for him to quit. “I was terrified,” the lawyer conceded. “I was starting to have horrible dreams. But being silent is a crime.”
Imroz and his team redoubled their efforts, spreading their net across 55 villages in three districts, Bandipora, Baramulla and Kupwara. An ad-hoc inquiry run by volunteers and funded by donations saw the number of unmarked and mass graves mapped rise to 2,700. Inside them were 2,943 bodies; 80% of them unidentified. “These were hellish images from a war that no one has ever reported,” said Imroz. “We suspected this to be prima-facie evidence of war crimes,” he added. “Who are the dead, how did they die, in whose hands and who interred them?”
The SHRC finally agreed to an inquiry. Soon, it had its work cut out. Using RTI laws, the police were forced to concede that they had lodged 2,683 cases for the covertly interred in just three districts. And a new deposition submitted by Imroz’s field workers covering two more districts, Rajoori and Poonch, mapped 3,844 more unmarked and mass graves, taking the total number to more than 6,000. There are still another 16 districts yet to be surveyed, leaving Imroz to wonder how many violent deaths and surreptitious burials have been concealed across Kashmir. Finally, last September, the SHRC made an announcement, stating that Imroz’s discovery was correct: “There is every possibility that unidentified dead bodies buried in various unmarked graves … may contain the victims of enforced disappearances.” The UN weighed in this year, a report to the Human Rights Council warning India of its obligations under human rights treaties and laws. Kashmiri families had a “right to know the truth” and that “when the disappeared person is found to be dead, the right … to have the remains of their loved one returned to them, and to dispose of those remains according to their own tradition, religion or culture”.
After the Nadihal men disappeared, Imroz’s field worker, Parvaiz Matta, travelled to the village. He found an eyewitness, Fayaz Wani, a close friend of the missing men. Wani finally revealed the Indian army had offered the men jobs, in a deal brokered by a Special Police Officer (SPO), who had given them a sum equivalent to £7 each, “as a show of good will”, before taking them to a remote army camp in Machil.
The families of the missing men filed a complaint against the SPO, Bashir Lone. “This man broke down, admitting his role, claiming that nine soldiers at a remote army camp had shot the three men, so they could claim reward money,” Matta said. (The army routinely gives financial rewards to soldiers who kill militants.) On 28 May, 2010, three bodies were exhumed from unmarked graves close to the camp, some of those already mapped by Imroz, and in which the government said were foreign fighters. Their families identified Shahzad, Riyaz and Mohammad by their clothes.
The Nadihal cash-for-killing story and news of a legion of unidentified dead lying in unmarked graves, sent hundreds of thousands of demonstrators on to the streets in the summer of 2010. Sensing the building anger, the army and central government in New Delhi promised an inquiry, offering, without irony, talks to anyone in Kashmir “who renounced violence”. However, when no answers came, Kashmir went into convulsions, as crowds of youths armed with stones ambushed soldiers, police and paramilitaries who returned fire with live rounds. I arrived in Kashmir shortly after. More than 100 demonstrators had been killed, many of them children. International news channels briefly took an interest, asking if Kashmir was experiencing its own Arab Spring. But the cameras left quickly, as a vicious crackdown began clearing the streets: the government’s own statistics showing that more than 5,300 Kashmiri youths, many of them children, were arrested.
In 2011, Imroz went to work again, investigating how India had restored the peace, and I shadowed him. He took statements from those who had been released and the families of those still incarcerated. “The affidavits made for chilling reading,” he said. The majority of youths alleged torture, with independent medical examinations confirming that many had their fingernails pulled and bones crushed. One teenage prisoner told the Guardian: “The police started on our hands and fingers, breaking them with gun butts, and by the end when tears were streaming down our faces, we were hung by our ankles and had chilli rubbed in our wounds.” Others claimed to have petrol funnelled into their rectums. One group alleged in court that they were forced to sodomise each other, while a police cameraman filmed.
This year, Imroz and his field workers widened the research to commence the first state-wide inquiry into the use of torture. Their findings will go to the UN and to Human Rights Watch later this summer but a draft seen by the Guardian suggests that not only is torture endemic, it is systemic. In one cluster of 50 villages, more than 2,000 extreme cases of torture were documented, any of which would kick-start an SHRC inquiry, and all of which left victims maimed and psychologically scarred. Methods included branding, electric shocks, simulated drowning, striping flesh with razor blades and piping petrol into anuses.
This work suggests that the statewide ratio for Kashmiris who have experienced torture is one in six. “For the 50 villages, in this small snapshot, we located 50 centres run by the army and paramilitaries in which torture had been practised,” Imroz said. The methods, language and even the architecture of the torture chambers are identical. “What we are looking at is not a few errant officers.” Files released under RTI laws show how these practises go back to 1989. These documents, seen by the Guardian, also reveal horrific practises, including one sizeable cluster, confidentially probed by the government itself, where men from the Border Security Force (BSF) lopped off the limbs of suspects and fed prisoners with their own flesh.
The Guardian traced one of the victims, a shepherd Qalandar Khatana, 45. Hobbling on crutches, bandages covering his ankles, both feet having been sawn off, he recalled: “I was held down, a BSF trooper produced a knife and then I passed out as the blood gushed from me.” His file says a government investigator confirmed the story and produced eyewitnesses.
Another villager, Nasir Sheikh, a carpenter, who lost both legs below the knee and one hand, added: “The smell was of death – urine, shit, sweat. You knew you were about to be slowly murdered. It was like being thrown down a well where no one can hear you scream.” His file confirms the story and suggests that compensation be paid. The UN special rapporteur on torture has been refused entry to Kashmir since 1993. Domestic legislation to outlaw torture has stalled. “When will the world start asking as tough questions of India as it is of Syria?” Imroz asked. “Or are we Kashmiris invisible?”
• Kashmir’s Torture Trail, Tuesday 10 July at 11:10pm on Channel 4
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jul/09/mass-graves-of-kashmir
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Ram / September 14, 2014
” The Indian Govt did not kill multiple tens of thousands of their own citizens and unable to account for them – or refuse to account for them “
The implication is that the Sri Lankan government did, but with NO proof whatsoever, but it is the stick used to assault Sri Lanka by the LTTE rump. We do know that the LTTE carried out a version of the Hannibal Option, and murdered their own injured (soldiers and civilians) who were a drag on it’s ability fight the war. One could only assume that the fate befell the Sri Lankan soldiers who had the misfortune to fall into it’s hands. We also know that the LTTE deliberately shot those civilian hostages who wanted to escape it’s clutches. The Bishop’s figures for the ‘disappeared’, published with much fanfare, have been exposed as fiction by the local investigation. Of the ‘missing’ (19000 in all), 5000+ are Sri Lankan soldiers, and the Tamil mothers blame the LTTE for the majority of the others. Sasitharan’s husband (another of the missing) is blamed for more than 300.
Saddam Hussein was tasked with proving that he did not have WMD, and Hans Blix was forced upon him to prove that he did, with absolutely NO success. Yet his report was purloined by the US on the way to the UNSG, and the US destroyed Iraq as it intended, anyway. Sri Lanka should never give in.
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mechanic / September 12, 2014
How did Tamils speak with the police during the rule by the British Raj.
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Gita / September 12, 2014
In ENGLISH !
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2014
mechanic
“How did Tamils speak with the police during the rule by the British Raj.”
How did the Sinhala/Buddhist speak with the police during the rule by the British Raj?
I need to know the year of publication of Ancient Jaffna.
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Amarasiri / September 16, 2014
Saro,
RE: Northern Provincial Council has adopted a resolution calls upon the Government of Sri Lanka to cooperate with the UN and allow the UN’s OHCHR Investigation on Sri Lanka team to enter the country.
Yes let them come. Find out the truth.
Ask them to go to Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iraq and ISIS as well for fact finding missions.
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burt / September 12, 2014
Are you referring to accused murderer Douglas?
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aratai / September 12, 2014
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The Soldier (criminal/coward) who shot VP’s 10 yr old Son and the soldier (Hero) who shot VP are roaming freely in the North.
Sinhalese (like KAS) treats all soldiers as Heroes…
Rest of the world, treats all Srilankan Soldiers as Criminals.
:-)
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Amarasiri / September 13, 2014
Sumanasekera, Aka Lorenzo, Jim Softy etc.
“Northern Provincial Council has adopted a resolution calls upon the Government of Sri Lanka to cooperate with the UN and allow the UN’s OHCHR Investigation on Sri Lanka team to enter the country.”
Very good.
ask the SL Govt what they want to hide?
SL Govt. is like a thief caught with stolen goods stored in his house.
The do not want the police to search the house.
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Burt / September 14, 2014
“Peace loving people among the inhabitants can breath a sigh of relief that the SL Army and the Police are still in Jaffna.”
Dint the peace loving people tell no uncertain terms at the NPC elections, which was the first opportunity the got. Or are you retarded that you couldn’t get it.
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Tamodaya / September 12, 2014
Begging for war again.
If you want investigations prepare for another genocide.
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Spring Koha / September 13, 2014
Careful Good People,
Don’t talk about WAR! There will be NO war in our new SL. The Sri Lankan armed forces are well armed, but a little bit rusty (ie no match practice) BUT they know how to win. So they are capable of being ruthless and putting down any (especially any half-baked) attempt at insurgency.
On the other hand, our armed forces are NOT invincible, especially IF the ‘Big Lingam’ across the water to the north decides it is best, and the right time, to impose a ‘Cyprus-type’ solution. Draw a line from Puttalam to Batticaloa and there you have it. Six hours to land and secure, six weeks to mop up and let the surrendering forces retreat to the south.
Oh Oh, and you know what – our ‘friends’ at the UN will not care to do anything about it. Especially since they will not be ‘given visas’ to get in here.
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Jim softy / September 12, 2014
These Tamils are better off in Tamilnadu where they pi$$ every where in the open and law castes are getting killed by the high castes.
Why don’t they go there instead of SUFFERING IN SINHALE-NORTH.
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Fathima Fukushima / September 12, 2014
Because Tamils in SL have NO pride.
If I were a Tamil living in SL, I would take the first boat to Tamil Nadu (Tamil motherland).
Chingalam people did riots, war crimes, etc., etc. on Tamils but these shameless Tamils still lick Chingalam boots and live in SL!
Why do people kick dogs? Because no matter how many times you kick a dog, it still comes after you begging.
All big talking Tamils finally ended up at the FEET of Chingalams.
Read history in 1939, 1958, 1983, 2009. Even Ellalan died worshiping Thuttakamunu!
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Tamil from the north / September 29, 2014
@Jim Shitty, where did your ancestors come from? Your ancestors were a bunch of thugs and rowdies who were chased out by the king somewhere in India. So why don’t you leave lanka and get the heck back to your homeland, which is India.
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Leon / September 12, 2014
If the genocidal Rajapakse Regime have nothing to fear, as they often claim, they should permit the International Investgators of the Human Rights Council to go to SL and carry out their investigations. After all they are not only investigating the crimes committed by the Govt (if any) but as well as those committed by the now defunct Tigers.
By not permitting them to go to SL, you are virtually implying that you have matters to hide. That is what an objective observer will conclude.
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Piranha / September 12, 2014
Rajapaksa will never allow it. If he did he and his brother Gota will be dead meat and he knows it. Best way to escape justice is by not allowing the evidence to get out.
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Saro / September 12, 2014
In an interview with The Hindu the president said he still does not know who killed Balachandran, the child of late LTTE leader. There were many LTTE cadres and workers held by the military in a picture near the lake and General Dias was also present in it. How can any sensible person think that the government can hide the truth?
In the interest of humanity and justice the government must cooperate with the independent UN OHRC investigation and if found guilty of war crimes must apologise and move forward. The government can also present any incriminating evidence against LTTE. Otherwise it will be a long drawn out call and investigations until the truth comes out.
During the white apartheid regime in S.Africa many atrocities took place and the Truth and Reconciliation Commission gave amnesty to those who confessed to their heinous crimes against blacks.
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burt / September 12, 2014
Can some one explain why the Govt of SL is dead against UNHRC investigating a war that had ZERO civilian casualties.
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Saro / September 12, 2014
mechanic,
“And Land powers and Police powers are not vested with PCs to date”.
We must understand why a “mechanic” does not know the constitution and working of government mechanism.
13A is a part of the constitution or the law and that gives police powers to Provincial Councils. The president took oath to ‘uphold the constitution’ before assuming his official duties. If he does not implement the law of the land he is violating it.
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mechanic / September 12, 2014
“Northern Province Wants Govt To Allow UN Investigation Team To Enter Sri Lanka”
Yes, Yes, ‘Tamil Nad’ too wanted Indian Government to allow UN to come to India and investigate Sri Lanka.
But India categorically says, NO.
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2014
mechanic
“But India categorically says, NO.”
Crime scene investigation has to start in this island covering the period from 5th April 1971 to date.
Hindian share of war crime and crime crime against humanity would be included investigation.
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Prem / September 12, 2014
You mean IPKF
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2014
Prem
“Crime scene investigation has to start in this island covering the period from 5th April 1971 to date.”
This what I wrote. Re read it.
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Prem / September 12, 2014
land graph started in past 1950 read State aided Sinhala Colonisation http://www.ptsrilanka.org/images/documents/state_aided_sinhala_colonisation_en.pdf
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2014
Prem
What’s your problem?
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jansee / September 13, 2014
Native Vedda:
Why only from 1971? Why not from 1956?
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Spring Koha / September 13, 2014
Jansee has a point here.I remember well a prescient officer in the old Ceylon Light Infantry saying, sometime late in 1956, that ‘the time has come now for the Singhalese to put the minorities ‘in their place’. SWRD and his coterie set the ball rolling and the seeds of hate were sown no sooner the ink on the ‘Sinhala Only’ bill was dry. Fifty eight years later and we have still haven’t learnt the lessons. What hope?
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Native Vedda / September 14, 2014
jansee
“Why only from 1971? Why not from 1956?”
Probably you are confused about riots and wars.
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manisekaran / September 17, 2014
Riots are n’t the rootcauses of successive wars?
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ela kolla / September 12, 2014
ready for another annihilation if you dare to open your stupid mouth….OUR BRAVE ARMY IS READY
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2014
ela kolla
“OUR BRAVE ARMY IS READY”
Of course your war criminals are ever ready to kill its own people.
Ask yourself a simple question, is the Hindian state ready to help your war criminals again?
By the way why was the your brave army hiding behind its women folks when IPKF invaded this island?
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ela kolla / September 12, 2014
stupid vedda, keep your rubbish to yourself…by the way minorities are not our people…they are your puppies
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2014
ela kolla
“stupid vedda, keep your rubbish to yourself”
I have no room to keep my rubbish.
“by the way minorities are not our people”
Of course we are not your people. Why don’t you go back to your people who live across Sethu Samudram and in enormous numbers in North South India.
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ela kolla / September 16, 2014
“Of course we are not your people”
stupid vedda, finally you have realised that you’re a minority and you don’t belong in SL….go back to where you came from
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Native Vedda / September 16, 2014
ela kolla
“you don’t belong in SL….go back to where you came from”
I don’t belong in manufactured Sri Lanka though I do belong to Veddah land, the entire island.
When we kick you out where do you plan to settle down, Erivirrar Pattinam or Lala land in Venga?
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ela kolla / September 17, 2014
stupid vedda, there is no vedda land here in SL……you should be ready to get killed
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Tamodaya / September 12, 2014
Begging for it.
Talk big now but then surrender at the feet of the army with white flags!! :)
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Tamil from the north / September 29, 2014
@ela kola, this time India and China will not be there to assist your coward army, which tried for 30 years to defeat the LTTE
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mechanic / September 12, 2014
I think fellows like Sivajilingam and his Chief Minister Wigneshwaran should take a cue from Colombo Mayor Muzzammil on how he developed Colombo to be the best city in south Asia in a short spell.
Visitors to Colombo city is full of admiration for its achievements. For one thing, Muzzammil could never have developed Colombo to what it is if he didn’t play the ball with the government. And that understanding has brought immense benefit to the residents of Colombo. What has Wigge done todate and achieved to-date in comparison? Nothing. All they have done was enjoy perks of the office and pass resolutions for political demands. TNA should fight their political battles at a separate platform to that of development. The way they are going about would continue to make ordinary people suffer as always had been. Then again all that Tamils of the North want is Eelam and nothing but Eelam.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / September 12, 2014
What you are advocating is what is wrong in Sri Lanka. The Municipal Council or a body like the NPC should be provided the environment and the resources to do what they propose within their legal mandate. Yes, co-operation is necessary, but not from positions of subservience or being dictated to. The political parties or coalitions holding power at the centre and at the periphery may be different, but the relationship in matters of pubic interest must be dictated by rules and not by arbitrariness. It should not matter whether Douglas Devananda or C.V. Wigneswaran are the CM of the NPC. What is defined by the law and statecraft should prevail. The relationship should not be defined by fear or favour.
Dr. Rajasingham Narendran
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mechanic / September 12, 2014
Dr.Narendran,
The Governor of a Province in Sri Lanka is its President’s man. Civil servants to PCs are also appointed by the President. The President is the Commander in Chief of Sri Lanka defense forces as well. So, Army, Air force and Navy need not have CM’s permission to recruit Sri Lanka citizens or have garrisons in a province. And Land powers and Police powers are not vested with PCs to date. And NPC is just one of the nine provinces of Sri Lanka. However much we argue these are realities.
Now, the principal problem with TNA is the superior and bantu mentality of its leaders. The best example is that you guys think playing the ball with the government is subservience. Relevant or not, Minister Douglas Devananda has proved that he is much more loyal to Sri Lanka than our CM, C.V. Wigneswaran. And that goes a long way in getting things done. It is unfortunate that your TNA guys believe they can win their demands overnight through pressures and threats.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / September 12, 2014
Mechanic,
The 13th amendment spells out the powers granted to the PCs including land and police. The government cannot pick and choose what it will abide by in our constitution, the supreme law of the country. It cannot also subvert the intentions what is in the constitution using the concurrent list in the 13th amendment. As to the role of the governor, please study how the the Governors appointed by the President on the recommendations if the PM carries out his functions. He is a monitor and not the class bully.
The 17th amendment was similarly ignored and then replaced by the pernicious 18th amendment.
Dr.RN
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / September 12, 2014
Douglas Devananda is only. loyal to himself! C.V . Wigneswaran is the epitome of an erudite, cultured Tamil and a quintessential Sri Lankan. It will be very difficult to find a. Tamil, Zsinhakese or Muslim of his calibre in the future. If the governments thinks as you do, it will be gravest mistake in a Sri Lanka’s history.
Dr.RN
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K.A Sumanasekera / September 14, 2014
Dr Narendran.
Was Mr Velupulle Prabakaran ven e class for you erudite, quintessential Vellala CM ,Mr Wigneswaran to call him a Hero.?.
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2014
mechanic
“Now, the principal problem with TNA is the superior and bantu mentality of its leaders.”
Have you ever thought about Sinhala/Buddhist ghetto bunker mentality?
The Governor is Sinhala/Buddhist war criminal
Civil servants are being controlled by senior civil servants and politicians who are Sinhala/Buddhists.
The President who is the Commander in Chief of Sri Lanka defense forces is the chief war criminal and a Sinhala/Buddhist.
Army, Air force and Navy chiefs who are war criminals and also Sinhala/Buddhists.3
You can see the common factor that makes life difficult for all people as the state, government and bigots continue to build their little Sinhala/Buddhist ghetto.
Land powers and Police powers should be given to all provinces, seven out of nine are controlled by Sinhala/Buddhists. You want to deny the rest of the provincial councils just because you can’t bear the thought of Tamils having some destiny over what they want to do with the resources where they live, toil and die?
Its amounts to “Cutting off the nose to spite the face”. What sort of person are you? A jealous Sinhala/Buddhist self destructive stupid man/woman/other.
What has Ancient Jaffna which was published in 1926 got to do with G G Ponna’s 1939 speech? You are not only a Sinhala/Buddhist bigots but disgrace to the entire people of this island.
When you lie don’t get caught.
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Saro / September 14, 2014
mechanic,
“The Governor of a Province in Sri Lanka is its President’s man”.
Yes, that will the case for ever. Like the president the governor also does not uphold the law.
Under 13A the PC List (List 1)specifies that Land and Police Powers are vested with PCs. The president is OBLIGED to uphold the law or constitution by virtue of his oath that he took before assuming his Executive Powers. 13A is part of the constitution. If he does NOT implement the provisions of the constitution he is violating it and hence disqualifies himself. If he bullies his subjects he must be impeached or removed by the Supreme Court.
” Minister Douglas Devananda has proved that he is much more loyal to Sri Lanka than our CM, C.V. Wigneswaran”
Douglas Devananda is a criminal wanted by Indian court and LLRC wants him investigated for his alleged involvement in kidnapping, torture and killing of innocent citizens. CM C.V Wigneswaran is the retired Supreme Court judge. You mean loyalty to the country involves murders and criminal activities but the CM wants to be a civilised patriotic citizen clear of any criminal record. If the government implement the LLRC recommendations DD will be behind bars by now.
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RuwanL / September 12, 2014
The problem with you guys is “not from positions of subservient” Why have that mentality? you need not be subservient to any one!! As long as you have such warp thinking nothing will happen! I totally agree with Mechanic! try to build the NPC to be like Colombo! Its time you guys woke up!!
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / September 13, 2014
Pause to think why the 13th amendment came into being? If what you say is logical what is the need for the 13th amendment and the PC system. The Government Agents can do what the Central Government wants, without an elected body to carry out the work proritized as per the wishes of the people they represent and not according to what the Central Government wants to do. You seem to have no idea what devolution means in terms of true democracy.
Does democracy also mean that favoured MPs are gven Rs 30 million for development work whereas the others get 5 million, as revealed by Rajiva Wijesinghe?
Dr.RN
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RuwanL / September 15, 2014
The 13th amendment came because of India and and no other provincial council has any problems with it other than the north! If you wait for proper devolution then you may have to wait for quite some time as neither party wants to negotiate! Pound of flesh or nothing! Democracy? where is it practiced? My democracy may not be yours! What I am saying is don’t make excuses and find reasons not to do development do it any way!
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Native Vedda / September 15, 2014
RuwanL
“no other provincial council has any problems with it other than the north!”
How did you manage to migrate to planet Sith?
“where is it practiced? My democracy may not be yours!”
You are right hence we don’t want yours. Please take it back to Lala land in Venga.
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Native Vedda / September 15, 2014
RuwanL
Strengthening the Provincial Council System, May 2008: Final Report
Read the above report where you will find interesting observations by 7 chief ministers and what powers they lack and what powers they want the centre to devolve.
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RuwanL / September 15, 2014
Native, are you referring to the USAID report? I don’t have comments! Have you ever worked with USAID? I have! as for democracy may be its there in your Vedda land!
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Native Vedda / September 15, 2014
RuwanL
Read that report then we can discuss it on its merit.
All 7 chief ministers and provincial councillors were interviewed.
Almost all chief ministers stated that the Councils lacked powers to actively serve the people and even the minuscule powers that have been vested in the provinces had been superseded by Colombo decrees.
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RuwanL / September 16, 2014
Native, its a totally biased USAID report! If its from an independent source then there will be credibility! USAID recommends practices that even they don’t follow! I know them quite well!
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Native Vedda / September 19, 2014
RuwanL
Have you read the report?
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2014
mechanic
Please let me know the year of publication of Ancient Jaffna.
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paul / September 12, 2014
1926, why?
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jansee / September 13, 2014
mechanic:
You mean to “carry balls”?
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2014
paul
“1926, why?”
Please ask the stupid lying mechanic.
Here is the sequence and exchange of comments:
Sinhala Colonization In The North Sped Up
Excerpts:
mechanic
September 8, 2014 at 9:39 pm
Remember GG Ponnambam started the first ever Tamil-Sinhala race riot was in 1939 by degrading Sinhalese and Mahawamsa in Nawalapitiya.
Native Vedda
September 9, 2014 at 2:36 pm
Could you refer me to your source.
mechanic
September 9, 2014 at 8:58 pm
Read Page 382 of ‘Ancient Jaffna’ by Mudaliyar C. Rasanayagam. It’s all there in detail. In addition you can read how the riots spread to other areas as well. Happy!
Native Vedda
September 9, 2014 at 10:23 pm
“Read Page 382 of ‘Ancient Jaffna’ by Mudaliyar C. Rasanayagam.”
Could you let me have the year of publication.
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mechanic / September 12, 2014
I gave an answer to one of your questions. Then you asked more questions. I answered again. Then you posed more questions, I replied ‘Go find out the publication date, yourself.’ Even a stupid notice what you’re up to. Go [Edited out] now, kallathoni.
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Dawn Dale / September 13, 2014
don’t worry about NV. he is a bit thick by his own admission- he is still searching for a book by ‘Jane’ somebody that OTC recommended. BTW what has happened excellent former OTC – miss his clear and well thought out posts
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Native Vedda / September 14, 2014
Dawn Dale
Many have accessed Jane Russell’s book and some of them have already started reading it.
Since then OTC has evaporated into thin air. OTC, Banda and his sidekick mechanic lie, plagiarise and pretend as if they have mastered history.
Here is the link to access it
Communal Politics
http://www.noolaham.net/project/37/3675/3675.pdf
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Senthil / September 12, 2014
We all know why LTTE lost. Not because of the army. Because of Indian, uk , us etc provided intelegence, istael provided moskitos to distroy and stop weapons to them. Any way past is past. LTTE lost because they refused to listen to india. Now if the government refuce to listen to India , it will be disasterous. They once showed that they can drop anything without asking the government – learn from the past.
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Dawn Dale / September 13, 2014
really ? what would we do without the west ? – are sooo helpless – even war crimes I am sure its not SL gov (they are not so capable must be the west surely !
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