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Palestine & Ukraine: Two More Nails In Imperialism’s Coffin?

By Sachithanandam Sathananthan

Dr. Sachithanandam Sathananthan

Part I: Palestine

The Palestinians’ death toll in Gaza has risen beyond 32,000 men, women and children and counting. The Interim Ruling of the International Court of Justice highlighted the Palestinians’ plausible genocide by the Israeli State. That is likely an understatement, for the Director of the New York office of the UN High Commission for Human Rights resigned in disgust asserting Gaza is a “Textbook Case Of Genocide”. Further investigation by the UN’s Special Rapporteur determined (on 28 March) that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza; for her efforts to seek the truth she has received threats.

The Zionist settler-colonists are replaying in real time the gruesome, violent expropriation of the indigenous peoples’ land and their genocide by the European settler-colonialists in north and south America for the past five centuries, and in the settler-colonies of Australia and New Zealand. In the United States between 1860s and 1910s the God-fearing white Protestants trod in the blood-drenched footsteps of their ideological forerunners, the Pilgrim Fathers, swearing similarly they are recovering the land for Christ as they slaughtered an estimated 10 million American-Indian men, women and children – a “record” the German Nazis perhaps sought to outdo but failed.

Today Zionists absurdly claim the Old Testament is their title deed to the land of Palestine while cheerfully “mowing the lawn” (mass killings) that began in earnest with Israel’s several odious attempts to crush the Palestinian nation before, during and after the 1948 Nakba. Washington and Tel Aviv are bent on killing and/or expelling Palestinians in Gaza and then in the West Bank and presenting to the world an ethnically cleansed Jewish State “from the River to the Sea” as a fait accompli.

So far Hamas has neutralised Tel Aviv’s military option. Over the past six months Gazans have bravely resisted Israel’s drive to shovel them into the neighbouring Arab States, who closed their border and thwarted the expulsions. Egypt allowed humanitarian aid to pass freely through the border crossings at Karem Abu Salem and Rafah but Tel Aviv squeezed its flow to a life-threatening trickle, inducing famine. The US, rather than compel Tel Aviv to lift the land blockade, instead is promoting the charade of “airlifts” that cannot supply more than a pittance of assistance.

Maritime “aid” corridor

The US President added a macabre twist: he announced in his State of the Union speech last month (March) that the US military would construct a “temporary” port off Gaza’s Mediterranean coast where ships could off load emergency aid (food, water, medicine, etc.); the construction has begun. Simultaneously Tel Aviv is applying starvation as a weapon of war and deploying virtually unlimited NATO-supplied bombs and munitions to intensify the genocide of Palestinian. No rocket science is needed to surmise that the sugar coated “emergency aid” narrative is a crafty smokescreen to mask the port’s real and clear diabolical aim: to drive Palestinians, inevitably at gunpoint, on to ships and push them out to sea since the neighbouring Arab states have closed their border.

Meanwhile, the US abstained on the UNSC’s resolution 2728 (of 25/mar/24), binding under International law and calling for an “immediate ceasefire” in Gaza, obliges member-states to refrain from sending military supplies to Israel. Washington, however, continues to funnel bombs and weapons to Israel.

Israeli forces deliberately killed aid workers from the World Central Kitchen to block emergency relief to Palestinians. Tel Aviv and Washington’s attempts to white wash the war crime crumbled when the nationalities of the victims became known: Australia (1), Poland (1), US & Canada dual citizen (1) and Britain (3); and one Palestinian. The death of 6 white persons sent the western media into a flat spin; President Joe Biden facing an election chastised the deaths obviously of white civilians while Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu promised to ensure “this thing does not happen again”.

The supposed benevolence of opening a maritime aid corridor is a crude deception to distract attention from the ongoing scorched earth operations; a recent one is the two-week siege, destruction of Gaza’s main hospital Al Shifa and massacre of medical staff, patients and civilians that left behind several hundred Palestinian corpses. UN experts “condemned the wholesale destruction and killing at Al-Shifa HospitalThe world is witnessing the first genocide shown in real time to the world by its victims and unfathomably justified by Israel as compliant with the laws of war.” (Emphasis added).

Fog of war

Several lies too died and are dying as Mehdi Raza Hasan has forcefully stated. The first, that “Israel has the right to defend itself” has been blown out of the water. Israeli State invaded and occupied the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem in 1967 and is enforcing the slow-motion strangulation of the Palestinian nation within the occupied territories. Under international law Israel is the Occupying Power, which has no right of self-defence against the Armed Resistance mounted by the Occupied People of Palestine.

It follows that the question “Do you condemn October 7th”, often posed by fork-tongued politicians of the collective West, pretends the war largely began on that day. This second lie is amplified by their compliant press and regurgitated by their supine aficionados in the Global South; an example is a Lankan analyst’s delusionary assertion that the October 7th “operation could have been carried out without murdering civilians, including women and children”; she added, by not limiting the attack to “military targets…Hamas provided…an invaluable excuse to the Israeli hard-right to ethnically cleanse Palestinian lands of Palestinian people”. Did Palestinians provide excuses for their 1948 Nakba and subsequent ethnic cleansing and mass killing over the past seven decades up to October 7th

Sinhalese analysts criticising Israel are walking a political tight rope dodging obvious parallels between Palestinians on the one hand, and Tamils and Muslims on the other. To be fair, in 2014 one apparently noted the echoes in Sri Lanka of the Zionists claim to racial superiority, their State-assisted settlement of Jews (Kibbutzim) on Palestinian’s traditional land, their religious belief that God anointed the land exclusively for Jews and the violent expropriations of Palestinians’ lands that supposedly are necessary for military security or of archaeological importance for Jews. She observed, in her essay titled “Our Gaza”, that “(t)he Rajapaksas are not only building an Israeli-type peace in the North/East; they also waged an Israeli-type war there.” Other commentators have made similar assessments today; however nationalist Sinhalese opinion has denied any similarity whatsoever.

The third lie, “Israel is a democracy” in a sea of Muslim autocracies in West Asia, too died. The country stands exposed as a messianic force favouring an antediluvian theocratic Jewish rule and is a brutal Apartheid State exemplified by the illegal Wall 708 kilometres (439 miles) long to corral Palestinians in the West Bank. The Wall continues to stand despite the ICJ’s 2004 “advisory opinion” declaring the construction flouts international law, requiring it be dismantled and concluding that “Israel could not rely on a right of self-defence or on a state of necessity.”

Tel Aviv’s ethnic cleansing including genocide of the Palestinians in Gaza and soon, if not already, from the West Bank have permanently buried the fourth lie, “anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism”. The marauding Zionism has legitimated anti-Zionism as a valid critique and an urgently needed political movement.

The UN Secretary General challenged the gobbledygook surrounding October 7: “the attacks by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum” he noted. “The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation. They have seen their land steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence; their economy stifled; their people displaced and their homes demolished.” Furious Tel Aviv demanded his resignation for drawing attention to Israel’s criminal settler-colonialism.

The military operation by Palestinians is a legitimate act of self-defence and their Resistance is far from “terrorism”. The Peoples Republic of China is the only government we are aware of that challenged the “terrorism” lie. The PRC backed South Africa’s case against Israel in the ICJ; Beijing drew inspiration from several international conventions and argued that the “Palestinian peoples’ use of force to resist foreign oppression and to establish an independent State is an inalienable right…Armed struggle in this context is distinguished from acts of terrorism” and further defended the Palestinians’ “right to self-determination…” In contrast Germany opposed South Africa’s charge in defence of Israel.

Hamas’ strategic victory

The western media’s obsession with condemning Hamas for October 7th also detracts from Hamas’ strategic military victory over Zionism on that day when their fighters broke out of the Gaza concentration camp. It was strategic for several reasons.

a) Hamas torpedoed the 2020 Abraham Accords, a set of bilateral agreements to supposedly normalise Arab-Israeli relations, that Washington and London (with a vigorous nod from Paris) had craftily put together to virtually sink the Palestinians’ national rights in the Mediterranean sea and to entrench their satrap, Israel as the dominant power in West Asia (coloniser’s name: “Middle East”).

b) Hamas neutralised Tel Aviv’s military objective of eliminating Hamas; despite Israel’s carpet bombing of Gaza for more than six months Hamas continues to battle the Israeli armed force.

c) Hamas has boosted its political reputation as a national liberation movement and exposed Tel Aviv’s puppets in impotent Palestinian Authority, headed by President Mahmoud Abbas.

d) Hamas shattered the myth of invincibility of Israel’s armed forces. Other Arab nationalist forces are recalibrating their approach to Tel Aviv.

The body blow to Imperialism the Organisation delivered on October 7 is the main reason for the unbridled anger against and abhorrence of Hamas in capitals of the collective West and their racist mainstream media. Hamas’ strategic victory threatens to overturn British Imperialism’s elaborate long-laid plans to entrench its client, the Zionist movement, under the 1917 Balfour Declaration. The Declaration is the outcome of the confluence of strategic interests between two major forces: a) western Imperialism – led first by London and carried over by Washington – that required an outpost in the crucial oil-rich West Asia and b) Zionism’s project for a Jewish State on Palestinian land. (The Declaration announced the establishment of a “national home for the Jewish people” in the Ottoman region of Palestine that contained a small – less that 10%  – minority of Jewish population.)

Much crocodile tears were shed about Europe’s persecution of Jews over the centuries that morally justified the handing over of non-European land – Palestine – to build a Jewish homeland. Reading between the lines it is obvious the deeply antisemitic European powers – led by Britain – sought to jettisoned as many Jews in their midst as possible on to land outside Europe.

Imperialism groomed Israel as its regional henchman to keep Arab nationalism at bay and whip Arab governments into submission. Tel Aviv’s service to Imperialism in the 1952 Suez Crisis is emblematic and the 1967 War drove home the military superiority of Israelis over Arabs. However, October 7 exposed the myth of Jewish invincibility; the longer Hamas withstands Israel’s military onslaught the greater the damage to the alleged omnipotence of Israel’s armed forces.

The Palestinians have long fought Imperialism’s scheme to dominate and control West Asia under the 1917 Balfour Declaration by instigating and funding Israeli settler-colonialism. Hamas (and Hezbollah) are shredding Washington and London’s well-crafted plot; the latter two are desperately funnelling arms and ammunition to Tel Aviv to shore up their West Asian satrap. By neutralising Israel in Palestine Hamas would add to Imperialism’s historic defeats in Vietnam, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. The impending catastrophic military defeat in Ukraine for US-led NATO forces is likely to hasten the further decline of US Imperialism.

Next – Part II: Ukraine

*Dr Sachithanandam Sathananthan is an independent scholar who read Political Economy for the Ph.D. degree at the University of Cambridge. He was Assistant Director, International Studies at the Marga Institute, Visiting Research Scholar at the Jawaharlal Nehru University School of International Studies and has taught World History at Karachi University’s Institute of Business Administration. He is an award-winning filmmaker and may be reached at: commentaries.ss@gmail.com

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    I have begun to like what Sachithanandam Sathananthan writes.
    Look at the Heading, – Two More Nails In Imperialism’s Coffin.
    You don’t have to read the content. It is oozing out of the title.
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    Both Palestine and Ukraine are simmering. Both stand testimony to our prejudices.
    We take sides. Not the least related to humanity.
    Bring Sri Lanka in will reduce the severity of the inhumanity against both Palestinians and Ukrainians.
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    I have no doubt that a world without US would be a relative paradise!

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      Bringing in Sri Lanka will reduce, – it should be. Sorry.

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      Nathan

      “I have no doubt that a world without US would be a relative paradise!”

      You are right however there are other countries that are peacefully rising to take over the world. SJ’s mother country has already started snatching and renaming land around and beyond its borders, its ambassador called Sri Lanka a neighbour although it is situated about 2500 miles away from this island and twins one of its provinces to all 25 districts of Sri Lankan.

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        Native Vedda, Nathan’s relative paradise without US is not the biblical paradise where God does not exclude any who accept him from US. Trump believed God and shifted the US embassy to Jerusalem and made the city its undivided capital, making it ready for the return of Christ.

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          davidthegood

          “making it ready for the return of Christ.”

          From where?

          “Nathan’s relative paradise without US is not the biblical paradise where God does not exclude any who accept him from US.”

          Which God?

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    All the news coming from the USA suggests that they are planning to fight another proxy war to increase Mr. Biden’s approval ratings. The other two proxy wars; Ukrainian proxy war and the Israeli proxy didn’t bring the desired results as China and Iran did not take part. I assume that the Biden administration is frustrated by the magnitude of anger and unpopularity that was brought upon by Israel’s war in the Gaza Strip. Hence, a new proxy war. These are my observations.
    1/5

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      A) I am not sure whether Russia finally figured out the shadow element behind the Moscow terrorist attack, but on March 28, two of the Russian war ships entered the Red Sea for an unknown mission. The move may also have something to do with Israel’s attacks in Syria.
      B) As reported by Western media on March 29, the Biden Administration has approved 2000-pound 2,000 bombs and 25 F-35 fighter jets to Israel. They might have already been delivered by now. The moment I read the news, I thought it was not for the Gaza war, but for another proxy war.
      C) After massacring 450 Palestinians in and around al-Shifa hospital in Gaza, in a surprise move, on April 1, Israel forces withdrew from the hospital premises.
      D) On the same day, Israel bombed the Iranian Consulate in Damascus killing three senior commanders and four military advisers. After Iran’s threat to retaliate, Israel has reportedly closed all its embassies around the world.
      E) In another surprise move on April 7, Israel forces withdrew from Khan Yunis in Gaza.
      F) Now, the US officials say that an attack by Iran on the US and/or Israel assets is inevitable. Hmmmmm….
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        One remarkable thing about the Biden administration is, they are very transparent. It is pretty obvious that the US desperately wants to take the world’s attention from the Gaza Strip for several reasons.
        1. If Iran attacks Israel, the Biden Administration may be hopeful that pro-Palestinians around the world, particularly in the US, will be happy.
        2. Israel’s retaliation against Iran may lift Netanyahu’s unpopularity at home.
        3. A war between Israel and Iran will provide the US intelligence a highly awaited opportunity to destroy Iranian military and economic assets.
        4. If Russia is involved in the US’s proxy war between Israel and Iran, Ukraine will be happy. Also, it will pave the way for more proxy terrorist attacks in Russia.
        5. As Israel is not in a position to fight two wars, it will eventually withdraw from the Gaza Strip which will make Palestinians and the world happy.
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          6. If there is a war between Israel and Iran, it will most probably be a sea and air war.
          7. My unsolicited advice to Russian and Iranian leadership is, please do not get involved in a war with Israel. It is not worth it.
          8. If the presence of Russian warships in the Red Sea is a deterrent strategy, then it is a different thing. Retaliation and wars are two different things. A war will bring more deaths and more destruction. We have seen enough deaths and destruction in the Gaza Strip that we shouldn’t have seen.
          9. The US has a penchant for a massive civilian casualty in other countries. Haven’t they reached their civilian death target in Gaza yet? We don’t know.
          10. After several failed attempts, the UNSC finally passed a Resolution calling for a ceasefire in Gaza. Although Israel didn’t adhere to it, it was a great victory for Palestinians.
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            11. I think that Russia and China should play a more active role in securing a permanent ceasefire to the Gaza Strip.
            12. And, Iran and other Arab and Muslim countries must understand that this not the time for lackadaisical diplomacy. Over 33,000 Palestinians have been killed and 75,750 have been injured in just 6 months. The UNSC Resolutions are legally binding and Israel has one genocide case and another case for illegally occupying Palestinian territories at the ICJ. There is absolutely zero chance that Israel will get away with it. If they have, then we know that the US has terrorized the ICJ judges. I strongly suggest that Arab and Muslim leaders actively lobby other countries to recognize Palestine an independent state and sit down with the US, UK and UN interlocutors for a final solution for the Palestine Question.
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      Champa, Your observations are accurate re new proxy war. Finally Chinese army (kings of the east in Rev. 16,12) will march to Iran (prince of Persia revealed to Dan.10,13) and together will march to Israel Megiddo in World War 111 and finally descending against Jerusalem.

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        dtg
        “kings of the east”
        The only kings in the East are those of Bhutan, Brunei, Cambodia, Malaysia, Thailand and Japan (but an emperor really).
        It could be an ASEAN invasion!

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          SJ, Could be China and ASEAN. Kings also mean those who rule, When book was written, these countries may have had other names too. It really does not matter

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      Champa

      Forget US/Russia impending war.

      Modi wants repossess Kachchatheevu Island.
      How do you suggest we should handle the situation without being bombed the s**t out of our Surgeon General Shavendra Silva the medicine man with their Chapati floor (like in 1987)?

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    Dr. S.S, Your article mentions a Jewish state on Palestinian land. Where is Palestine mentioned as it is not so named either in the Bible or the Quran? Jesus lived and died in Israel around AD 30, in this slave state of the Roman empire. Vespasian emperor left his son Titus to capture and destroy Jerusalem and their Temple after which he renamed Israel as Palestine in mocking them with their enemy name, the Philistine giants like Goliath, who had invaded Gaza region from Crete. 2000 years later, Hamas today occupies same region and living in their long and deep underground tunnels unleashing terror on Israel reestablished permanantly in their own land in 1948. Future protection of Israel from all terror will finally reveal who their creator God is.

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      So, a country not named in he Old Book does not exist?
      Israel was not on any map until 1948.

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        SJ, Israel is in OT maps containing the old names. It is clearly in the bible, God himself naming Abraham’s grandson Jacob as Israel, having his sons named the 12 tribes of Israel. Gen.32,28 and Gen.35,10. Israel was exiled to Egypt and Babylon and finally reestablished as a state and nation in 1948, never to be removed. Palestine was never established by the UN. The temple mount was for jews, but Mohamed claims to have gone to heaven on a horse (like gamarala) In the desert a cloud led Israel and Jesus was received in a cloud and will return to Jerusalem. What really is your issue. If it is unbelief in a loving redeeming God, please think again.

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          How long did the Kingdom of Israel last?
          When was there a state or administrative region called Israel in the Christian era?

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            SJ, Jacob was named Israel in Gen. 32,28 the reason being he struggled and prevailed on return to Bethel, same place he met God while leaving the land earlier.. Again in Gen. 35,10 God gave him the land from where nations will come. In vs.22, Israel heard about his son’s misdeeds. Jews exiled due to their sins were always brought back to the land and finally in 1948, never to be exiled again. After Jesus was crucified in Jerusalem, Rome destroyed the Temple and disciples were to go to the gentile world with the gospel of God’s kingdom message, his original plan which will work out. Israel still exists in this world’s christian era, which will culminate in 3 major wars (Mat.24) until Christ returns. Watch and pray is what Jesus told his disciples to be in communion.

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              You have ducked the question.
              I can understand why.

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                SJ, The kingdom of Israel was ruled by God’s instructions, but humans wanted to be like other nations with earthly kings. So God gave them Saul and David and Solomon and others. In my mind I happen to focus mainly on major issues under discussion and not just ducking them. Always ready to answer from what I know.

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                  SJ, Israel after Jesus lived there has always been understood as Israel in the christian mind. Israel has always characteristically been in dispute even before 1948. Hitler hated jews even in 1933. This is history, but it is the future of people’s destiny which is important now.

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      DTG
      Since you are a fan of Biblical revelations, what about this one?
      “I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, on the sea, or on any tree”
      Where are these four corners, and is the earth flat?

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        old codger, Even children today know that the earth is not flat. The 4 corners of earth is all inclusive north, south, east and west. The coming of Jesus to the jews also finally included the gentiles of the whole world. Isa.11,12 promises to assemble the outcasts of Israel from the 4 corners of the earth, meaning the whole world. Delay in Rev.7,3 that you mention is till God’s servants are sealed in their foreheads. There are clearly 2 groups of people, but only one has salvation and a different destiny with white robes. Is it not wise to get in there?

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          “The coming of Jesus to the jews also finally included the gentiles of the whole world. “
          Why “finally”? Was it an afterthought?

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          “The coming of Jesus to the jews also finally included the gentiles of the whole world.”

          “Isa.11,12 promises to assemble the outcasts of Israel from the 4 corners of the earth,…”

          Well, the Jews from the 4 corners of the world will have to have 75% and more of Jewish blood, and therefore, they would number in about 1million. Together with the original Jews in Israel, they should number about 3-million.

          Gentiles and Jews of 25-0% Jewish blood should accordingly accept Christ as the Son of God or Son of Man who is the highest prophet of God as what the Muslims believe in.

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        Hello OC,
        This time it’s “metaphorical”. Sounds like Revelations again?

        Best regards

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          LS,
          I admire DTG, not because he is so convinced of his righteousness, but because he never gets riled up.

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            “riled up” like?

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              SJ,
              ““riled up” like?
              Let’s say, like those who don’t know the difference between discussion and insult.

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            old codger, Thank you, but my righteousness is not from me, but what Jesus did on the cross as my substitute to save me from karma by taking it on himself for the whole world. How can anybody refuse that saving exchange in the form of a covenant and changing the jewish Passover meal into the Holy Communion given in churches. Please be blessed by getting onto the right side of eternal destiny as described in the good book, only one book.

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            OC, LS,
            .
            North America was lucky enough to witness a total solar eclipse yesterday afternoon. The incredible pictures after my long day of work made me happy and I also got the chance to watch it on TV. The diamond ring effect is wonderful, this is the first time, I have observed it carefully.
            I think natural phenomena definitely have a close influence on our whole everyday life.
            I think our people think about their caste and religion rather than watching natural phenomena during total solar eclipses. To me Northerners and Southerners are the real unchanging “frogs in a well mentality” who hang only on to caste, religion and others.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzRu_gYhT3w

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              LM,
              We haven’t had a proper eclipse here since the 50’s.

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                old codger, I too was a student during 1956 June 8th Solar eclipse in Colombo with darkness for about 5 minutes and it was an experience. Our astrologers said to drink saffron during that time to get fair skin and more than 1000 foolish people were hospitalised due to diarrhea. The baila song “Beewa nether vadakaha suddhiya” became popular soon after.

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                  DTG,
                  Yes the singer was Wally Bastiansz.

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                    Wadakaha sudiya became ” Dhammika paniya” to some in 2021. .
                    .
                    Is their any tremendous improvement in Sinhalaya ‘s thinking 🤔? .
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                    Is a big question mark, is nt that so?

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              Hello leelagemalli,
              I watched the 11 August 1999 Eclipse in the Midlands of England from our office High Rise building. We projected an image onto a screen so that everyone on our floor could see a larger view , but it wasn’t total (nearly). In the South (Cornwall) they had a total eclipse. It was still impressive – we saw the Sun’s Corona. I was hoping to see the next total one in the UK but it’s in 2090 so I may just miss it😢. I think OC and SJ might also miss it.
              Best regards

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                LS,
                Forget 2090. I’ll be happy if I make it to 2048 and First World status. Or would it be less trouble to exit earlier?

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      David,

      The Roman emperor renaming Israel around 70 AD did not change the 100 – 90%Jewish blood of the Judeans. However Pharisee, Scribes, and Sadducees leaving Israel and going to Europe and other places would have watered their Jewish blood to 25-0%.

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      DTG

      It’s incredible that as an adult you believe all sorts of nonsense. The bible is a book of myths from ancient times. Very entertaining. Fools seem to get carried away. You sound like you are close to Your Use-By Date. Refresh your thinking. You are shortly to become dust and migle with the atmosphere. Nothing will be left.

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        sonali, Thanks for your beliefs but mine are different and not for Use-By Date but for eternity promised by my creator God who put his one revelation through numerous authors over a period of 6000 years before and after Christ so we could understand the process and not miss it. We were made from dust and then God breathed his spirit to give us his life and free will choice in a soul to come back to him. Or else why do good and not evil unless there is some meaning. to that. The soul is aththme only in man which nobody can destroy. Animals are different and can not choose to do good and act reflexly and have no salvation from God. They never become humans who also never become animals. Death is to dust and resurrection is to the same Jesus again. Evil cant kill self and be nothing. There is a judge.

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        Sonali,
        “The bible is a book of myths from ancient times. Very entertaining. “
        We know that, but he doesn’t. He probably has been taught that considering other possibilities is sinful.
        Still, he isn’t as vile as some others on this forum.

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        sonali
        You are telling someone who expects to remain buried until the Good Lord appears there with a ticket to Heaven

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          SJ, Give accurate information to sonali about death. Sure the body of dust remains buried, but the spirit and soul of the believer goes to Jesus and Eph.2,6 says raised together with Christ and seated in heavenly places. The seal of salvation is by the Holy Spirit and need not be missed by any and all humans. No one has power to destroy free will choice of a soul. Rev. 20,5 is called the first resurrection of believers. The others are in the Great White Throne of judgement in Rev. 20,12 where record books of their deeds on earth are opened and called the second death. Most of the bible has been fulfilled and these last few wars too will happen and Christ will return to Jerusalem on earth below the original garden of God, Eden.

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            DTG,
            “Rev. 20,12 where record books of their deeds on earth are opened “
            Surely by now Steve Jobs most have converted all these to I- Pads?

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              old codger,
              I am tired (not sick, yet) of the nonsense you too participate in.

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                Nathan,
                You too should take to biblical interpretation. It’s less aggravating than dealing with fascists.🙂

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                  old codger

                  “It’s less aggravating than dealing with fascists.🙂”

                  How can I avoid both fascists and religious nutters?

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                    Native
                    “How can I avoid both fascists and religious nutters?”
                    It just occurred to me that in some cases, they are the same.

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    David,

    The Roman emperor renaming Israel around 70 AD in no way changed the 100 – 90% Jewish blood of the Judeans. However Pharisee, Scribes, and Sadducees leaving Israel and going to Europe and other places watered their Jewish blood down to 25-0% by the year 2024 AD.

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      rtf, Thank you but hope these percentages are significant in watering down jewish blood. Antisemetism has been in the world for a long time. I am reminded of the 6 million jews murdered by Hitler in Germany during the holocaust. His long term girl friend Eva Braun who became his wife shortly before they committed suicide in a Berlin bunker in 1945 was found to have had DNA of Ashkenazi jews in europe. Strange facts but Philistine giants who invaded Gaza long ago were from Crete with a different DNA. Nevertheless the idea of jews in Israel awaiting their messiah will never change until Jesus comes for them in the future.. Jesus before death told his disciples in Mat.24, that there will be wars and rumors of wars but the end is not yet and that they will be hated by all nations for his name’s sake and deception and lawlessness would increase.

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        It is now a matter of Jewish (not even Semitic) DNA!
        I think that every Israeli citizen should undergo a DNA analysis.
        Pass mark 50%, shall we say?
        Those who fail should be deported.

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          SJ, You may not be aware but semetic (which means only anti-jewish and no other) DNA analysis done a long time ago on jewish populations and they have classified themselves accordingly (like sephardic jews and ashkenazi jews etc) to what they are entitled to be and do in their groupings. They will not reveal this to all others. Today when the world speaks of antisemetism for eg. in american churches which care for Israel and also in other countries, they only mean antagonism to jews only and not to arabs, christians, palestinians and whoever else with names live in that middle east area.

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          Hello SJ,
          Although there are some DNA markers for Ashkenazi Jews like Tay-Sachs and Cystic Fibrosis, these are also found in other Ehnicities etc.
          Judaism is primarily a Cultural and Religious Heredity and it would be very difficult to come to any agreement as to what constitutes Jewish DNA. Even the Israeli Supreme Court rejects the idea of Jewish DNA – https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301023/
          We are all (Modern Humans alive today outside Sub Saharan Africa) descended from a small group of Humans that moved out of Africa somewhere around 80,000 years ago or so. Sub Saharan Africans were mostly always there. If the Hindutwan RSS says something else let them show the evidence. We should reclassify ourselves inclusively as “Homo sapiens africanus”
          Best regards

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    David,

    The DNA is significant. Jews with just one grandparent immigrate to Israel. Many look very European. So sad for the people with Jewish couture and some Jewish blood in Europe. But America should have opened up more immigration to them. The West used the fact to create tension in the Middle East and control them that way. Now that the West have made deals with the other Arab countries, they can change their policy towards more humanatarian way in dealing with Israel and Palastine that lines with true Bibilical prophecies and with greater morality.

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      ~ So sad for the people with Jewish culture* and some Jewish blood in Europe. (although couture will also fit).

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        rtf, Jews are still scattered all over the world and some may never receive Christ and hence be lost. Now jewish blood is not the main criteria as the New Testament after Christ says in Galatians 4,28 “There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male or female but all one in Christ Jesus and sons of God, leaving the covenant of law and into the covenant of grace.

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          David,

          Doesn’t mean that Jews of negligible Jewish blood should congregate in Palestine and steal Palestinian lands, with the hope that one day (even in a million years time) they will convert to Christianity. Right now there are over 6 million Palestinians of the blood of Judah who accept Christ as the Son of Man who is the penultimate prophet of God who is coming again.

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            rtf, Jews always lived in Israel and also migrated all over the world. What are Palestinian lands you mention which being non existent cannot be stolen by Jews. Also jews will never become christians, or go looking for land but large number of them will accept Christ as their promised messiah when he returns to his city of Jerusalem and they see his identifying marks for which they will mourn. This is not my story but only what is written in the bible which I fully believe is God’s message to us. There are some things in the bible which evil satan did and which we do not follow, though it is in the bible for us to discern what God says and what the liar says. Blessings to all who even dispute what is in the bible.

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              rtf, Permit me to add this. Mat. 20,18 says that Jesus going to Jerusalem to die told his disciples, ” We go to Jerusalem. Son of Man will be betrayed to chief priests and scribes. They will condemn him to death and deliver to the gentiles (romans) who will mock, scourge and crucify. On the 3rd day he will rise again” Is it not shocking that it was exactly as he said. Later Mat. 27, 51 says ” Veil of Temple tore, earth quaked, rocks split, graves of saints (believers) opened and resurrected with Christ and appeared to many. When the roman centurion who scourged saw this he feared saying Truly this was the Son Of God” Centurion gave up military and became a missionary as he saw believers resurrected.

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                David,

                Still doesn’t change the fact that only 600-thousand Jews were in Israel in 1948, and those that returned were mostly of European blood. If Eskimos were in Israel when Jesus came back, even they would accept him.

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                  rtf, I am not sure what European blood is. Certainly if Eskimos accept Jesus, they would have eternal life. Gal.4,28 says “All one in Christ and there is neither Jew nor Greek, male nor female, slave nor free” All are in God’s kingdom family. The prayer Jesus taught is “Our Father, who art in heaven” which is for all. Be blessed.

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                    David,

                    European blood is not the blood of Judah-Isaac-Jacob-Abraham. Palastinian blood is.

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                      David,

                      Revelations Ch. 7, vs.4-8 says that only 144,000 from every tribe of the sons of Israel will be saved. So 9-million Jews and counting are not needed for the Rapture. It is therefore a crime against humanity that Palastinian lands are stolen for the purpose of the Rapture.

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                      Verily, the 144,000 will be from the orginial blood of the sons of Isaac – The Palastinians!

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                Hello DTG,
                In Sinhala “නෑ” in my dialect “Neh” and in English – I thought that there was only supposed to be one resurrection. Did someone make a mistake?
                Best regards

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                  LankaScot, Each person can only be resurrected once. But there are 2 groupings. Rev.20,5 says that when satan is bound, those who accepted Christ (from both jews and gentiles) were made alive and were called the first resurrection, were blessed and were priests of God and Christ. Earlier, Rev.7 mentions 144,000 jews (only jews) from all tribes who were not just saved but sealed as first fruits to bring the rest of Israel to Christ. After this millenial reign of Christ and his believers, Rev. 20,7 says satan will be released so he will again deceive nations to battle and surround Jerusalem and the resurrected believers. This time God’s fire casts satan into the lake of fire, already prepared (Mat.25,41 says hell prepared for the devil and his followers) Unbelievers are resurrected (2nd resurrection biblically) for Great White Throne judgement.

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                    Hello DTG,
                    That seems unfair -so those resurrected at the time of Jesus resurrection, will not be resurrected again? Unless they are still alive and amongst us now.
                    Best regards

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                      LankaScot, Those resurrected with Jesus went up to paradise as did one thief at the cross who accepted him. Heb.12,1 says there is a whole cloud of witnesses cleansed from sin already up there gone up at various points like Enoch in Gen.5,24, Elijah in 2K 2 transcended, and the body of Moses was never found though satan searched hard to find it. Ps. 116,15 says the death of God’s saints are precious to him. These ascended cannot come amongst us unlike the devil’s fallen deceivers.

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                    This God of yours has a weird sense of humor.
                    I do not think that it is funny at all.

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                      SJ, This is not humor, but his love for you inviting you to be a member of his household, which is the safest place you can be today as all these wars start.

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                      SJ, If you think God is weird, it may be that he changed Passover into Holy Communion in the church. His body and his blood changes our DNA back into his DNA as you believe that and partake of it. For unbelievers, truth makes no sense.

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                      SJ,
                      DTG’s God has only been around for about 5000 years. What happened to the billions who died before that?

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    Ayubowan DTG

    You sound like a Jew who was gassed by the Devil Hitler and you have arisen for the first time. Well done! So at your next Great White Throne judgement you can ask for a discount.

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      sonali, I am not a jew and never met Hitler either. I am promised the first resurrection and have no Great White Throne judgement which is for unbelievers going to be away from Jesus. All I have said is in the bible and I am amazed at God’s plan for his creation and that he will accomplish. My personal blessing for you is that you too pray which is the only way to commune with God and he will definitely respond and take you in his arms of love for you which you can experience and be at peace forever. Tell him all your needs.

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        sonali, There is something I have not understood about this nirvana, where is it and who judges the sinlessness of people who are allowed there. My understanding is that those who deny the existence of God cannot go to God. Similarly, even Lord Buddha was not sure of God. Where is he now and can he be resurrected again. I genuinely like to know the answer to this.

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